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The 2026 Fantasy Football Football Take Purge

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The 2026 Fantasy Football Football Take Purge

This episode combines a satirical "take purge" format with in-depth fantasy football analysis, where hosts openly vent intrusive thoughts and controversial predictions about player performance. The discussion focuses on overhyping rookie quarterbacks like Brock Bowers and Caleb Williams, questioning whether inflated preseason stats and narrative hype mask underlying risks. Hosts express growing concern about injury trends, coaching instability, and roster health—especially in teams like the Bears, Chargers, and Titans—highlighting a shift from confidence to caution. A recurring theme is the fear of overreacting to short-term data, with participants admitting to personal anxieties about team outcomes and player longevity. The episode critiques fantasy football trends such as overvaluing running backs and ignoring injury risks, emphasizing that extreme strategies often backfire. A central takeaway is that successful fantasy decisions require balance—acknowledging both data and intuition—especially when emotions and biases run high. The hosts also touch on broader cultural patterns, like generational divides in player belief, and the influence of social media on team narratives. Ultimately, the episode serves as a self-reflective commentary on bias, overconfidence, and the psychological toll of constant analysis in sports fandom.

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This episode is brought to you by Chevrolet. Chevy drivers need a truck that shows up the same way they do. That's why Chevy Silverado is number one in manufacturer loyalty, so they can go where others won't. Make their own way there and always get it done. And as long as Chevy people keep showing up, we'll keep building trucks that do the same. Chevrolet, together, let's drive. Visit Chevy.com/trucks to explore the lineup. Every game day, you show up for your team. Now, it's your time. Ask your prescriber about WeGovie, some Maglatide Injection 2.4 milligrams, a GLP1. Call 1-8334 WeGovie or visit WeGovie.com to view the Medication Guide and to learn more about WeGovie. Why wait? Welcome to the 2026 annual Take Purge. My name is Danny Hifetz. And I am joined by two men ready to cleanse their souls. Danny Kelly and Craig Whirlbeck. Men, are you ready to embark upon a journey of catharsis? I need to be cleansed. I'm nervous. We'll scared, but I'm also ready. You should be scared. There's a lot in here that I want to be out there. Right, I can't wait to feel lighter. We are going to embark on an incredible journey together. But first, an incredibly natural, well-timed, advertising break. Do it again. Give me one more. Smoother and lower voice. But first, a very natural and not, not whispering. Just, just like, but first, a really awkward ad break. But first, an awkwardly timed ad break. This episode is presented by Verizon. Let me tell you all about Verizon's new simplicity plan. You get one plan, one price, just $30 a line per month, even for a single line. So while everyone is running four trade analyzers before offering a backup tight end, Verizon said one plan, one price. Sometimes the simplest move is the best one, like the simplicity plan. Head to Verizon.com today. For new customers who switched to Verizon, $30 per line includes auto pay and switch discount. Additional taxes, fees, and terms apply. DK, you always get nervous for the take perch. Why is that? There's a lot of pressure on making sure you get the right takes out. Sometimes the takes themselves are a little bit scary. Just even say them. Even within the confines of the perch, which is like severance. What happens inside the perch is not who you are outside of the perch. You don't remember what happens inside the perch. That's exactly right. I don't know what I've ever said in there. How was it bad? I couldn't tell you. I mean, look, there's just all this prep, all this research. There's just a lot of intrusive thoughts. There's a weight on my shoulders right now. I need to get that off my shoulders. Unwanted ideation. Can you imagine if we had to carry these things with us, just walk around with them every day and didn't have an outlet at some point? What I'm most worried about is my professional credibility being at risk, which is why we've vented the take purge so that my sterling reputation as an NFL analyst won't be jeopardized by my. For you specifically, because you set the bar extremely high. Yes, the highest, maybe. I would maybe agree with you. So it's nice that we have this opportunity to get these intrusive thoughts off. Oh my god. This is not a test, this is your emergency podcast system announcing the commencement of the annual take purge. At the siren, all takes, including things you don't actually believe, will be legal for 60 continuous minutes. No players, coaches, or media members of any kind will be granted immunity. All rational thought, logic, and professional credibility will be suspended. The ringer podcast network, thanks you for your participation. May our take, God, Chris Sims be with you all. Ah, whoa! It's purge time, baby. Wow. Don't worry, we're not going to do. We're not going to give our takes with these masks off. What are we going to do in the whole podcast? I'm going to do that audio for those watching on Netflix and Spotify. We do actually have the giant weird mask that they have. I'm going to take it off, I'm going to do it myself. It's time. We're here. We're on the clock. I feel like I've been asleep for 364 days. And I've finally awoken like, like Ripley and Alien after a 53-year sleep. Yeah. Why don't you bat off here, Craig? I feel like you're just itching. You just look at your soul looks heavy. You got to get something off your chest. I think Brock Bowers is the most overrated pick in fantasy. And we're all just going way too hard on this shit. What? I just heard a bang in the other room. It was a lusted hitting the ground. We talk about Brock Bowers' rookie season like he's fucking Randy Moss in 2007. My guy had 1100 yards and five touchdowns. He caught a lot of passes. He averaged 12 fantasy points a game. Let's all settle down. If you include wide receivers in Titans in 2024, his rookie season, he was the wide receiver slash Titan 22. He's a 22nd highest rated guy. And we're all like, oh, Cubiac's coming. This is going to be awesome. Cubiac throws the ball way less than the Raiders did. Seahawks were 29th in past attempts last year. The Raiders in 2024 were fourth. They threw the ball 170 more times than the Seahawks did last year. Also, Jackson Smith and Jake Butler ran 100 less routes than Brock Bowers did in 2024. I think he's great. I would also like to add in that since the year 2000 only three Titans have ever finished as a top three Titan in fantasy with a rookie quarterback, playing eight or more games. No Titan attached to a rookie over that span has ever led the position and scoring. So I think we need a little settle down juice about Brock Bowers. That's deep in my soul. I'm not actually saying we obviously he's talking about it. I'm like, people taking this guy like 13th, 14th overall, I'm like, this guy's going to be like a top 20 or 30 wide receiver. Like last year didn't even happen. Give me a try McBride. Three things. One, I love Brock Bowers. This is obviously about me. Two, I'm afraid you're right. Three, for like almost none of those reasons. I'm afraid you're right. Which is terrifying. PCL. You brought up like, I mean, the Raiders throwing more passes. The CX throwing less. That's like because the CX defense is great and the Raiders defense is ass. I'm not as worried about that. The thought at the point I thought you were going to bring up is the Raiders quarterback situation is just like might be worse. Like her cousins is old and Mendoza is a rookie. And my fear is that I thought I just brought up the whole working quarterback thing. But well, that's the like the pass rate stuff that'll get ironed out. But to your point, what I didn't think could be like runs a slower offense. And they're just I don't need to run a lot. And yes, what is more balanced in any world? The Raiders were, you think the CX are going to be fourth, or do you think the Raiders are going to be fourth in pass attempts this year? Well, how many were completed? No, I think that it's about the efficiency. But I think that the fear I have with Bowers and I actually kind of fuel this way a little about the Chargers too. Is there any world where we're not just repeating ourselves next year? We're like, well, last year, like, you know, the Chargers were healthy. Last year, the Raiders, that was Mendoza's rookie year. Now Mendoza gets a whole off season. Now we should take Bowers. I am afraid that I kind of think Bowers will break the receiving record at tight end. And it might just be like in two or three years and not and picking Mendoza's rookie year as the year to be end is. I mean, it's a little scary. I don't love that as long. He had tape on his knee at practice as well. Don't love that. Especially with what happened with his knee. What's his face? It's a guy from the Niners. Be yourself. I don't know. It does worry me. I will say this is a great take because I have chickened out in the second round of every draft I've taken so far and I've not taken him. It's just been like something that's been festering in me. I love Brock Bells. I think he's fantastic. Festering is the perfect word. But I'm like, I just don't know if it's going to be like as explosive as a season as everybody thinks. Yeah, I. He's so bloody. Yeah, I mean, as everybody thinks. He has to. He has to. Basically, we're drafting him near his ceiling, right? Like, he has to go absolutely off. We're drafting him as the seventh best wide receiver in the NFL. That's pretty damn hot. That's like, basically, he's got to have like a CD-LAMS average season. That's kind of high. He could come in first. He could come in second. He could come in third. Yeah. He could come in fourth. I get it. It just comes down to if Mendoza looks like a rookie at all and plays earlier and Kirk Cousins looks old. And you're like, "Well, that was bad." Okay. Look at him. Looks lighter already. Look at Kirk Cousins down. Look at him. Look at him. I just wanted to get on base. You know? DK. I got another one that the word festering really works for. This wasn't festering in my soul a little bit. The crowning of Caleb Williams. I'm afraid Caleb Williams is going to suck again and the bear. And all our bears takes are going to look like shit. Dead and cursed? Daniel. I mean, I didn't say it. We literally were in the commercial. the inner matting commercial and we are doing the EA sports in the game. from part of Matt and it's and we literally may have overlooked that I feel obligated somewhat to say that there were a lot of bad like underlying statistics of Caleb Williams last year. In particular, his accuracy, which was absolute shit, it was shit, it was shit, it was island. It was shit. I mean, if you just look at some of like completion rate over expected, it was like 30 second, adjusted completion rate, 34th, this is according to fantasy points, 40th and catchable throw rate. Maybe DJ Moore was right, maybe he maybe he wanted to get out of there just because Caleb Williams couldn't complete a goddamn pass when it wasn't like him scrambling around. DJ Moore was right. It's a great take. Here DJ Moore is right. All the receivers and left their teams are right. DJ Moore is right about Caleb. I will say the reason why this is so genius is I think similar to Brock Bowers. This is like at the tipi top of the mountain of like things, we are desperate to believe is true. A hundred percent. That the bears are good and Caleb is good and it's real and everything's fun and this is like all the crazy shit that happened last year is not an anomaly. And this is like the new team. All the bears hype. Look, we wanted so bad. I mean, I love Caleb Williams as a prospect. I was so excited to see what he did last year than proving that he made. But all this bears hype when it comes to a quarterback is making me a little itchy. I know. I don't know how to feel about it. I really want Caleb Williams to be good and I really do believe in Ben Johnson. But the whole like next step, we're going really far on Luther Burton like all over Roman Day. Well, okay, settle down now. This might not be Luther Burns fault is what you lost me. They've got some injuries on their offensive line that are still like Aussie Trapilo whatever his name is. I don't know how to say his last name. Trapilo, which is also what is these resting on? He's coming off of a talent, Patelor injury, he was good for them last year. You know, Braxton Jones had a, he won the competition at left tackle this, this preseason. But he wasn't very good in the games. There's some concern there. The bears are honestly, they're going to struggle to run left sometimes. Yeah. Like Zoolander. Yes. So I don't know. It's, it's been nagging at me. All the bears talk. It's good. And I really do want him to do awesome and I, he could, but I'm also just like man. Is the bears quarterback been good? Yeah. I mean, the Chicago's literally never had a 4,000 year passer. And also they have the sixth hardest schedule this year. And that's the thing is like the same way that the chiefs had like, you know, they went like 11 and wins in one score games two years ago and then they had like six wins in the final play. And then last year they went like what one in eight or something in one score games. The Chicago had one of the greatest steps ever where they lost on a Hail Mary and then lost 10 straight games after that. Then that was two years ago. And then last year Chicago goes around and they want I think seven different games where they were losing at the two minute warning. And it's just like, oh, it was a very thin margin thing to be like, all right, well, we're good now. It's well, Kyler Murray had done what the bears did last year. We probably wouldn't be racing to be excited about it. Caleb last year led the league in throwways, 44 throwways. That's the Rogers. That's the Aaron Rodgers. Bryce Young and Cam Ward were the two that were right behind him. That's my pushback. Stats are created differently. Caleb Williams is Stats. The profile is similar to Aaron Rodgers and you compare him to Aaron Rodgers. It's not a lot of turnover. It's not a lot of it. Yeah. It's not there. He throws it away. He puts it into place that either his receiver can get it at a low rate or nobody. Yeah. He's not putting it really in the vicinity. But it just a completely eliminated throwways. So what about burden? Still really low. Are you worried about all the bears? Yeah, that's what I mean, that's basically, I mean, as a cascading effect, I'm worried that we're way too high on all the bears players this year. This is devastating. This is good. But it's also great. Okay. Can I get something off my chest? Yeah, please. This is like not just like a silly little take perched. This is like a strategic error. I think we've been. It's not your grandma's take perched. What other members of our team could we attack here? Because we've just killed Austin and killed and the kill is devastated. This is for us. All of these top 10 running backs are going to get hurt and us telling everybody to go running back heavy this season is going to make us feel so stupid. They're all going to get hurt. We all did it in the draft in the ringer, a fantasy league draft. The ringer draft, all of us went running back, running back. We drafted 10, 11th and 12th and we'll probably finish 10 to 12. In a three receiver league. Literally, we have just had the healthiest two-year stretch for running backs that any of us can remember. And then the industry, the entire industry just was like, you know what? You got to go back to running back to find now. Running backs are fine. Running backs don't get hurt. The most obvious fade ever is, you know what I'm going to do with my last pick? I'm going to take Justin Jefferson and C.D. Lamb back-to-back and then Drake May inexplicably falls to in the fourth or fifth round. I'll do that. And the whole weight on tight end went on quarterback. I did a draft yesterday and I couldn't believe it. I had the 45th pick. Like it was a fourth round, I forget. I almost got Josh Allen. Josh Allen went one pick before me. He went 44th overall. No one took a quarterback for 44 picks. And I just remember thinking, I've never seen that. Yeah. Right. And I remember thinking, I think there's a world where fantasy advice is actually in a weird way. You pick what it's now. Right. Because it jumped the shark a little. Yes. Yes. Everyone is so online that I've kind of agrees on a strategy of August 1st and the models and the projections and everything kind of a line. You wouldn't have seen that in our draft when the kickers went in the seventh round. But the game theory of it, I'm like, at this point, should our fantasy advice next year be like, let's just see what everyone else decides on and do the opposite out of principle. That's usually where you find the value. Right. It's lagging. Zero running back as a concept. Like, oh, we'll just like take elite receivers, elite tight ends, elite quarterbacks. And then, like, we'll just find backup running backs from guys to get hurt later and that's that you win started because everyone else is going heavy running back. And like, I am worried that that was very obviously the strategy, but we didn't realize that everyone was kind of touting the same thing. And I'm like, Derek County, I love him, but I'm like, he's the oldest running back in the entire league. Jonathan Taylor had 370 carries last year. Christian McAfrie had 413 carries in the reg, or touches in the regular season. Safe one's almost 30. Like, all these guys, like, we are really banking on these guys. Not missing any time. It's also been a horrific preseason for injuries. Yes. Just, I don't know. Yeah. Vibes are low on that. It's a good one. And it's basically betting on the position that you that is most likely to get injured. We'll just get injured. Yeah. And we're all betting that it won't for three years in a row. Damn it. So yeah, that's been bugging me. I got something that I've been thinking more and more as we've gotten through the summer. I did not feel this way months ago. And things have changed, whether I want to admit it or not. Okay. I think Mike McCarthy is going to go 12 and 5 with his dealers. We in a playoff game, and it's going to make all of us completely reconsider Mike Tomlin's career and legacy. Wow. I think the dealers could come out of the gate and be a really competent above average offense. I think Patrick Graham as DC is going to be an above average, dare I say, great defensive coordinator. And it's going to make us go. So what really was Tomlin doing? This team with the same roster pretty much in the same quarterback, one 12 games, one to playoff game. The offense is legitimate. I think they're going to average 24 points a game. And we're going to be like, huh? Maybe Mike Tomlin was a good quote. And Mike McCarthy is a good play collar. A good quote. That's good. That's like a catchphrase. That's like a fear, but it's also. Yeah. That would be exciting. I kind of think Chris, right? I will say I have a personal connection to this in a way, very like parallel kind of situation happened with the Seahawks where Pete Carol laughed. I was upset when Pete Carol got fired. I mean, he kind of got fired. It was a weird little situation. And I thought the Seahawks were making the wrong decision by letting him go. I had this amount of incredible amount of nostalgia for Pete Carol, like almost like a father figure. He took us to the Super Bowl. It was amazing. But the greatest era of Seahawks football, I've ever seen in my life, it was so great. But I will say the last, however many years, seven or eight years of Pete Carol's tenure there, were pretty stealers, he was like, good enough to go play ass. Not good enough to do anything else. And then, you know, the Seahawks hired Mike McDonald. And I didn't really know what to expect. I was like excited about it and everything. But immediately I'm like, he's the greatest coach in NFL. I fucking love this guy. I would die for him. I trusted him with my life. What were you doing the last eight years? And we won a Super Bowl in a second season. You don't really how outdated something is until he get you replace it. Yeah. Oh my God. I unfortunately, I think about this. I kind of wonder if Aaron Rogers is going to look great. Look at just the whole, like, what if it just works? When he's not busy throwing Rollin' Wilson under the bus. Yeah. Well, I mean, he turned part of the television. Wow. Greg, this is a great take. It's, do you think they went, do the stewards win a playoff game? Imagine if McCarthy really wins a playoff game. Yeah, I do. Okay. Tough division, though. Right? Yeah. I don't know. The Steelers are always good against the Ravens. It's like to fucking bangles and then you have the Browns. Like, I think the Steelers have the best roster in the division. Can I give a related one to this? Sure. I think the Ravens are also going to be so much better without John Harbour. Oh, yeah. Of course. Is that a take-bridge? Oh, maybe it's not. Oh, maybe it doesn't count. I was wondering, like, a lot better. It is. It's kind of because he now has John Harbour. Because it's coach. I feel like McCarthy coming in has been this punch line. I don't think Mentor and Doyle have been a punch line. Fair enough. Because he's really the Mike Brickdown. You're right. I guess it's not really a take-bridge. But I mean, I do agree with you. No one's talking about the Ravens as a Super Bowl contender, but it's exactly the same as what the COX did. Yeah. We have Pete Carroll there forever. And they hire it. And I think that everyone says, and I'm not wrong, that Mike Brickdownal's kind of like the Shawn McViv defense. And that was a lofty thing, but winning a Super Bowl in your two, it kind of is. If that's true, Jesse Mentor's like to Kyle Shannon of defense. especially his dad, you know, has been around forever. It's kind of the right comparison. So I guess it's not a thick birch. It's a good take though. I do agree with it. And I agree with you that kind of feels like Josh Allen in Lamar, everyone's like moved on past them as like super bowl contenders. It's like, well, there's a new era now. And there's like cool plate collars. We have Ben Johnson. And I'd probably just be like, yeah, it's just been on Lamar and Josh Allen. Oh, I get it. This episode is brought to you by ADT. One second, you're enjoying your day off. 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I've been biting my tongue the last couple of weeks because it's been just in the back of my mind for a while now. Anytime we fixate on a player or a team, talk negatively about them for weeks and weeks and weeks, say basically no positive things, I've been very anti this team, which is the Titans. I think Carl Tate is going to smash this year. I think he's going to be a wide receiver, too, in fantasy. So I think we've quickly forgotten how good he is. I know he wasn't considered a Jamar Chase level prospect, but this is a former five-star guy who has every tool that you want in his bag. I mean, he was literally the best catcher of the football last year in the college football. I mean, he had automatic hands, went at the catch point. He can go deep, he can run a full route tree. He's a really good player. I know that he didn't do anything in the preseason games, but our buddy, Eason Freeze, who covers the Titans, says he's looked great in practices, all that stuff. They haven't been scheming anything out for him in these games. I'm like convinced he's actually going to be the guy that we completely missed on in the preseason. I'll do you one further. Sitting number two in my line up here, and my take purges, that Cam Ward's going to be the next Caleb Williams. Yes, oh, yeah, the big year two, the year two reversal. We are incredibly overreacting to meaningless preseason crap. He had a horrible situation in your one with Brian Callahan, a fired coach, a terrible roster, just like Caleb Williams. You have Brian Debal coming in, a guy who's Josh Allen, Daniel Jones, like a person that you trust, I think his style works with Cam Ward. Cam Ward closed the season, not that bad. 10 touchdowns, one interception in his final seven games. I actually looked at, look this up the other day, 'cause I was looking up Tyler Schuck stats. The Titans had as many touchdowns as the Saints did in the final eight games of the season. Cam Ward, it wasn't like they were horrible. Cam Ward in 2025 stats looks very close to Caleb Williams in 2024. Yeah. And you look at physically capable arm talent, all that stuff, also off-field work ethic, coaches love him, swag level. The way that Salah talks about him, this is a guy who I would want to bet on, we'll figure it out, and you look at the last three, first overall picks at quarterback. You have Trevor Lawrence disaster first season, went three in 14, Bryce Young, and Caleb Williams. Those are all three guys who have rebounded. Why wouldn't Cam Ward be able to do it? What do they all have in common? A coach that immediately got fired. Yes. And they had a better coach. And I know Salah's the head coach defensively, but he has Brian Debal, who offensively, so again, we talked-- His track record is solid with corebacks. We were a little worried that 'cause Cam Ward can't run, Brian Debal won't know what to do with him, but the reality is, again, Debal has made everyone better for like 10 years, so we've been afraid of the tight. This is good. It is like, if Colonel T is good immediately, we will think a lot about the Jamar chase, can't tell what the white line's on the ball, 'cause the ball and college intervals different. Like, why did we give a shit about the police? We've just all agreed that Cam Ward's bad. It's over. And we've all agreed based on like two preseason games that Colonel takes the worst pick in fantasy. And again, I know I keep saying, and the last person on Earth who thinks Robert Salas Jets 10 year is underrated, but I just think the Titans will be good. I think the Titans are, if you just look at every team that came in last place in the division last year, in the AFC, the Titans are the best candidate to win the division. - I agree with that. - Like, there's always one team every year. Doesn't mean it's a law of nature, but like, if the Titans are kind of-- There's not many candidates. - Maybe an NFC Sal team. - I think that, or just also, I think, who came in last place last year? - The Lions did. - That was a count. - That was because I had the other count. So, okay. I like that one a lot. - I also think they have a chance to have a pretty good offensive line, which is such a forced multiplier. - Yes, sir, they have Colonel Taylor Robinson. I'm like, this is a much better team. This is the number one overall. Picky had one bad year and we're all out. There was like good flashes last year. - And the other thing about the Titans, they spent a lot of money for agency. And generally, that's not always a great strategy, but it usually does work in the year you do it. Like, those players usually do deliver immediately. Uh, that's great. Can I give another one's weighing on my head and that I really want to talk to you guys about? - If the 49ers lose this Australia game, their season is over. - It's over. - It's over. - This is the first, I mean, I like where your head's at. - It's the first must-win game in week one in NF history. - So we're coming off of the Super Bowl as the first Super Bowl that is not a must-win game for New England Patriots. And now we're have a week one must-win game for the Niners. - You can give in to that CX Patriots game's more important. This one's more important than the Super Bowl. But the nine, here's the thing. So the Niners, first of all, we're recording this take perched Thursday, September 3rd. - They're in Australia right now. - The Niners are in Australia already. They got their eight days before the game. Did you see Key on White, the defensive end on the Niners? There was a video he was like, "I don't know if you can overdose a melatonin "but I'm gonna try for the flight." So the Niners are there for eight days. - You can Google that, you know? - So you can Google that. In Mad, if the Niners are there for eight days, and then the Rams are going to show on up, like what, 16 hours before the game, they're gonna play again. - Fashionably late. - They're gonna be there like 30 hours. If the Niners show up and the Rams just kind of waltz in, whip the Niners' butts and then just get on the plane, the 49ers are going to have a 15 hour plane ride back where all they do is bitch about why the fuck were we just in Australia for a week? And it didn't even matter. - Now we're on Australia time. - Now they go home to their families on Australia time and they're like, "That shit didn't even work." And it's gonna set the land speed record for how quickly a great coach can lose locker room 'cause everyone's gonna be so mad about how long they were there and out of their routine. And you cannot underrate how much athletes give a shit about their routine. Like think about pictures, everything. They're all kind of like that. They're gonna, this plane ride on the way back home from a loss will break the team. - We just gotta text that they're actually currently on the plane, they have two more hours until they touch ground in Australia. - Dude, these guys don't have this slide away. - We gotta fly to where going on here. - I want to, I want a 180 year take. - Oh please, do it. - Fuck the substation, the Niners are fine. This is not enough season from Hell and they're gonna win the NFC West. - Yeah. - If you actually look at what's going on, it's like Ricky Pearson got hurt. He's hurt every year. I don't even know what the Niners are with Ricky Pearson. - He's barely played. You have Kyle Shanahan who miraculously made it through what could have been something way worse and seems to be okay. You have George Kittle who's having a miraculous and kill his recovery at 31 years old. Christian McCaffrey is healthy. Mike Evans is gonna play week one. They nailed this random wide receiver that nobody liked in Round Two, which is John Stribling. They have the seventh easiest schedule in the league. I think the Rams are super old and top heavy. The Seahawks just lost their Super Bowl MVP and their real Super Bowl MVP, their play collar, Clint Kubiak. And I'm staring at the Niners and I'm like, you know what, Dibo, Kittle, McCaffrey, Brock, Purdy, Kyle Shanahan. They're gonna be fucking good. - This is good. - This is a great Zach. Because we have never shot up about this substation. - Yeah, and I'm like-- - And our defense is funny. - It's funny. The substation to me is funny. I don't actually believe it's like doing anything really other than it's super ugly. And maybe it makes the vibes go down. - Yeah. - Just looming over them. - Getting bigger with every day. - Grashado growing and casting on them. - Yeah, I mean, that shit's funny. - Like a dark cloud. Yeah, I'm kind of just like, eh, we're overthinking this Niners. - How many of these are always fucking good? - How much fucking electricity is buzzing around us right now? - The winters won 12 games last year. And everyone's like, we don't even discuss everyone. - Yeah. - With the energy west. It's like, is it the Randall? - And they had like all their guys injured on defense. - Yeah. - Well, I don't like that. - That's good. - But it does make sense. - I can see that. - I think that's a phenomenal thing. - Whoo. - Feel lighter. How you doing, though? - I'm feeling good. I'm dropping weight. - I love the way you're talking to you, D.K. - I love the way you're talking to you, Chip. He brought the heat. - Rewatchable's coming out later today on Taladeganites. - Yep, hell yeah. - I'm going, I'm sticking in LA. I'm going. - Oh. - Omarian Hampton is this year's Jonathan Taylor, but it's going to last all year. And by that, I mean, he's going to score, he's going to score three touchdowns in like four or five years. - So he's going to score like 20 touchdowns. - He's going to like break the touchdown. - Yeah, I believe very strongly. We saw this like back in the day with Zika Elliott. I'm not saying that Hampton is Zeke's level talent, but just having an offensive line that will dominate the line of scrimmage. Again, such a force multiplier for an offense. I think the charges, if they can stay healthy, which is of course a big if, I think we're kind of just assuming they're going to fall apart. Maybe this year they fucking keep it together. Maybe this is the year where the offensive line stays healthy. Herbert really finally reaches his potential and they just score shitload of points. And Hampton is going to be the guy to do that because he's the hammer and in the run game, he's a really tough physical downhill runner. And I think he has a chance to just go off in the same way that we saw during the first half of last, here with Jonathan Taylor, he's just scoring touchdowns left and right. I don't know if he's going to be a big part of the passing game. I think he might be just kind of a dare canary-esque type of runner. But I think we're kind of, I think we're not giving the chargers enough leeway to actually be healthy like a normal team for one time. Just be normal. Just be normal, Nicky. Just be normal. And obviously, McDaniel. Neither of you saw obsession. Did you? No, I'm sorry. Hyphids has an opposite take here, I think. Oh, well, he's smoking at me like an asshole. I think both, if you are going to go the way, I think I think both are right because I actually, I think there's like in a weird way, we're, we haven't overrated, we haven't overreacted enough to make McDaniel in LA. And then I also think there's the classic pushback where it's like, I don't just get hurt. Yeah. Well, I will say, I do think once the chargers get hurt, we'll all be really embarrassed that we fell for the charger shit again. No, we're like, oh, the coach can, I think, make up for it with a scheme. That's what we've been, no, I know. And I, great. And it's funny because the chargers, the dolphins ran a bunch. The, the chargers, even with all the McDaniel stuff, are just very acquirable. If you want to just have literally Justin Herbert and a Marion Hampton and the, and C'monnie Vidal and Keaton Mitchell and Ladma Khan, Quentin Johnson, it's not even that hard to do. And you don't even have to sacrifice that much to get it. It's very easy to make happen. And on one hand, I agree. Decay, I kind of, honestly, man, I kind of think Justin Herbert might throw 50 touchdowns this year. If the chargers play the full season, I kind of think Justin Herbert will literally throw 50 touchdowns. Oh my God. I'm going to say diamond in an ice storm right now. I kind of think he'll be MVP. And people, like, I think people like Bill and Sal, who have questioned Justin Herbert, will be like, take wise, washed out to see. And everyone who, like, doesn't believe in Herbert will have to, like, go back and delete everything because like, it's embarrassing. But also they get hurt. We're those people who fall for it. It's really embarrassing. And it's one of the other. Do you think that Herbert thing is weirdly, like, generational? It feels like people over a certain age are out on Herbert and people under a certain age are sticking with him. The old heads. I mean, just the old heads, you know, I think some of the younger people, like, because my dad loves Herbert. He's old. I have friends with, like, he doesn't want to play off-game. It's that it's the old, it's the boomer, like, yes, foundation. I think boomers hate Herbert. It infuriates me. The playoff game thing infuriates me with Herbert, just because how many quarterbacks last year get the chargers and their eight left tackles to the playoffs. It's, like, LeBron, Michael Jordan never lost the finals. Well, I'm sorry, Michael Jordan couldn't drag those shitty other teams to the finals, like LeBron did. You know what I mean? LeBron's punished for making the finals. You're on record saying LeBron is better than MJ. That's what you're saying. Michael Jordan should have, sorry, couldn't get past the pistons, MJ. Sorry, you took all things you needed. That is Rod. So the answer is yes. You're saying LeBron's better than Michael Jordan. Take part. Yeah, fuck it. Whatever. That's good. That's good. The basically what I'm saying, this is funny. That's coming in a take purge because I actually do feel this way in my heart, in my real life, in whatever, what's the opposite of when you're in the your Audi? Yeah. Yeah, your Audi. I don't believe in curses. Like a curse is not a real thing. You don't believe in curses. No, I don't believe in a curse. I don't think it's a real thing. The fucking charges are actually curses. I'm an adult. So please. You guys remember when we were counting? You were watching games one week at Bill's house. And it was, and it was giants who were playing the Ravens. Oh, you did the little thing. And Justin Tucker was, who at the time, none of the stuff had come out. And Justin Tucker at the time had made like 40 consecutive, I think it was more than that, field goals under 60 yards. And there was a 43 yard field goal, which had missed in four years. And I went up and I do a little X in front of the field for an important TV. And all of you looked at me and I didn't know that you didn't, and you looked at me like I was insane. And you were like, there was no chance that that stupid XU drill will have an impact on the kick. And then he missed the kick. Yeah, that's a coincidence. Have you ever done the X and it didn't work in your life? It's perfect. Yeah. Yeah, 100%. Sure. In front of you guys. So as you know, you had no, you had no impact on that outcome, but you don't believe in curses at all. I don't. I believe in like the idea of a curse infecting the minds of the players. I believe that I think at a baseline has is absolutely true. Yeah, sure. I'm not like against that. Yeah, the substation thing is actually the real example that we're broken Tate in the players now actually kind of believe it and that affects them at the minimum. I have a, I had a mini fallup. Now that you said the Herbert 50 touchdowns thing, I had a mini purge fallup, which is that Quentin Johnson's just going to outscore Lathamonky this year. Yeah. And end up being the number one Y to C run this team. And then you do that last year. And he's basically not counting stats because he missed some games. But I think I'm like, Quentin Johnson's just going to be the next Tavante Adams where it took a little bit. Right. Tavante Adams didn't have a thousand yards until his fifth season in the league. This is Quentin Johnson's fourth. And he finally has the offense in the situation to do it. Maybe this is, I saw one preseason play. But I, when you look at a lot of the stuff you did last year when he was healthy with Herbert one in parentheses. Yeah, one. And meanwhile, I'm like, Camor, don't look at that preseason crap. I'm like, but Quentin Johnson, look at that. But I do think there's a chance that look, maybe it's just that glad's white. And I'm like, he'll settle into a nice little role playing situation as a gritty little slot guy. But I do think Quentin Johnson, there's a shot that this season ends and he has like 1400 yards in 10 touchdowns. And we're like, oh, it is kind of funny that we're like, afraid to say that the six foot four guy with a four three speed is good. Right. Like he was a first round pick. He was actually picked higher than Ladmukonky. And we're afraid to say he's good. While we're on the charges, I have to give one more take perch. So Carlos is not on the show anymore, but Carlos asked me to do a take perch. A proxy purge, a proxy purge, a surrogate purge, if you will. Carlos wants it known that Tua will still win a playoff game before Justin Herbert. Oh my god. Wait, is he a boomer? It's cold as Carl. You mean on the bench? Starter. He'll watch his team win a playoff game from the bench. He is after the preseason. He saw he's like, I don't care. Tua is still going to win a playoff game for Herbert. This is actually a fucking great take that Tua might actually be good this year. It's amazing to that. That's that's like too hot for this because high fits was out on Tua because he fumbled a snap. No, the other way he did it twice. The fumble snap was better than anything. It was a ball. Filmed me twice. Fumble twice. Shame on me. Right. I was afraid of Tua because of what he did when he kept the ball in his hands. It might have been worse. That's fair. Uh, I thought that was incredible. I like that. And Carlos is now the resident boomer of the also looking hates the moment of Zen, which is one of the greatest takes. Oh, that is the best take maybe in the history of the show. Carlos hates that moment. He doesn't not like it. He hates it. Yes. I mean, Carlos hates Guinness. We're at the Guinness factory. He's like, you think they've got a Moscow mule. Yeah. If it's overrated, it doesn't like baseball. He's just fucking calling it. It's amazing. Uh, that's great. He's like baseball. That's he's also debunking my Herbert generational boomer theory. So can I, all right, I have another purge if I can spill one. This is, this is like, it's not just takes that you're afraid to say. There's also intrusive thoughts. So it's not a take. This is like something that keeps coming up in my head. You're worried about it. That I actually like really, you don't want to believe. And I have not verbalized this. Like I just think, I keep thinking about it. I think Patrick Mahomes was going to tear his ACL again. Oh, my God. What is that about? Because he's, you think he's rushing back and he's going to re-engine it? That is part of it. But the other reason is, so Josh Simmons, the left tackle. No, this is, you know, I, this is not just like a thing. This is like a premonition. So, yes. So Josh Simmons, the left tackle, he has this move where he basically, it's, it sounds funny to describe it, but you kind of grab by the shoulder pads and throw them down to your left. Like it looks great in individual drill. It's going to hit him into his legs. Yes. And he know who has an, and it's the actual name of it. You know, everyone calls things different names. It called it snatch technique. Because you basically, like imagine drill in the line and throws the defensive end down. You know who thinks that this is a terrible move with Patrick Mahomes coming off a 20 ACL and thinks that that is really putting Patrick Mahomes at risk? Mitchell Schwartz, who was the right tackle for the Chiefs when they won the first Super Bowl and was like the best player on their offensive line that year. Just keeps posting on Twitter that Josh Simmons should not be using that technique because it eventually Patrick Mahomes will be there. And he's going to be in the pocket more this season because of the mobility. And he thinks they should stop. Josh Simmons shouldn't do that anymore. And Josh Simmons is still doing it. And it's really weird. This is how it fits his version of, I hope you have beautiful, articulate sons and they lose their legs. I'm not going to put that evil on me. I'm not just sitting there like, oh, he'll come back under his knee. So the right tackle of the Chiefs is like, wow, that is a very weird technique to use with Mahomes very vulnerable this year. This is a grim take. I was like, I don't know about that. But it grim. Yes. Put it this way. Every Chiefs snap the first month of the season. I'm just watching Josh Simmons. That's fair. So are you like completely out on Mahomes and fantasy? No, it's not a take. I'm just when the game is on, I'm going to be watching Josh Simmons. And if you just some rolling defensive ends, do some of your weird voodoo X things. Is there something? Is there an opposite of that? If you make a circle, does the player score? How do I have to find out? Okay. Yeah. We'll do that. It works every time to like, you know, anyway, that's a real, do you have any other intrusive thoughts like that where it's like, I don't want that to happen. I just keep, keeps coming up. Now that you say that, yes, I do. Okay. This is, I so what we've pissed Austin off. We've pissed Nikhil off. Raiders, bears. Don't you fucking do it, Craig? I don't want to believe this. I, and I don't believe it. But there's something a kernel inside me. Or I'm like, what if Darnell just turns back into a pumpkin? He did. He was second in the NFL in turn over. He was first, my guy. Oh, first fuck. I'm kind of like, so Darnell had Kyle Shanahan when he was a backup. Then he had Kevin O'Connor in Minnesota, then he had Clint Cubia. And I'm like, okay. So now he has this guy Brian Flurry on the, the Niners tight ends coach. I'm like, Sam Darnell led the NFL Alan Turnover's last year, are we under rating Kubeak leaving in this current situation that Donald is under where a lot more pressure is going to be on him? And I'm like, what if it's a fucking mess? And everyone's like, should we bring back Donald and then we're just right back. And then it's honestly, remember when Gino Smith left Seattle, what happened to him? I'm like, what if that just happens to Sam Donald? This is a masterpiece. I don't like it. It is a worry. Okay. Part of the reason that the C-hux won the Super Bowl or a big part of the reason the C-hux won the Super Bowl. Obviously their defense is awesome. Yeah. Donald had zero turnovers in the playoffs after leading the NFL and turnovers in the regular season. He had 11 fumbles last year. And it was always kind of the thing that is the expression stuck in my crawl. It stuck in my cry. It really bothered me the whole season. I'm just like, can you just be normal? Can you just go one game without doing the CJ Stratt thing where you fucking freak out and give the ball to the other team four times? That's all I need you to do. Be normal, Nicky. I can't. That's Donald. Yeah. Yeah. And I love Donald. Like, he got us that Super Bowl. I fucking love him. We'll be loyal to him forever from now on. But we're in the take purge. It's a worry. It's a legitimate worry. I don't want to believe that. I liked Donald. I want him to have success. I'm not rooting for this at all. But it's something that is like deep in my gut. Yeah. Oh my god. Do you have anything like that? Like an intrusive thought or anything? Just to take you more. This is more of just a, it's been in the back of my head. I don't know why we haven't really brought it up or talked about it. But like this book of injury is probably a big deal. And I think Chris Godwin's going to just flat out outscore, uh, Mika Buka this year. I think we're also forgetting about Chris Godwin too much. He was coming off a fucking major, like leg ankle break that is really debilitating when you get back the first year back. Prior to that injury, he was the White receiver too in fantasy. That's correct. Number two in this with the same quarterback, obviously, a little bit different offense, different offensive coordinator. But I still do think he's going to be a high volume receiver for them out of the slot. He's healthy now. No one's talked about him. I haven't talked about it once. I don't think this whole preseason, maybe one time. DK, we're kind of vibing right. You know the two avatar people to not be they connect their ponytails. Yeah. At the bottom of my list, you're sitting here as Chris Godwin's going to be a top 15 while you're seeing this year. I just think I make a may feel talking about it on a serious interview the other day that he looks like the old Godwin. He looks like he's ready to do what he was doing before he got hurt. And he's now like a year and a half removed from this injury. Yes. And I think we're probably like trying to wish cast that wish cast this a bokeh injury into it's fine. He probably has turf. It's the take lock. It's the desperation. Like we loved him before he got hurt now. It's like fuck. He might not be and shifter are going to post like, yeah, he's missing week one. Just turf till he'll be back. Don't worry. And then you're like, oh my god, I spent my fourth pick on someone with fucking turf toe or or higher Godwin was the second best wide receiver in fantasy in 2024 for half the season. He was on pace for 121 catches dislocated his ankle came back last year. Played a couple games. Kind of got hurt again, but he really tried to come back too quickly. He did. Yeah. He finished the season playing five games. This is again coming right off the dislocated ankle is the 24th best wide receiver average 11 points a game last year. Now Mike Evans gone Ibuka toe. Mick Millen is still dealing with a knee. Ted Hurst is a rookie. Mm hmm. Kind of like Chris Garvin is just sitting there. We I don't know why we haven't brought this up in regular talk. He's 30. You know? Like this almost is not a take purge. It's almost just like we should have probably been talking about this for the last month. Yeah. That's a great one DK. I'm in lockstep. All right. I. Navi. What is it called? The Navi. Yeah. The ringer fantasy football show is sponsored by Fandle before the season every team is undefeated. Every fan believes this could be the year. The year their team wins the division makes the playoffs lifts the trophy and with Fandle you can bet on any of it. From who will win it all and division winners to season win totals and playoff futures Fandle has all the ways to bet on the season before it even begins. AJ Brown for offensive player of the year is 40 to one to be the offensive player of the year. 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I was kind of like fuck. Well that's dope. The kicker thing is ridiculous to me but he's talking to me in points. I can't really argue. Take him over Brad and Aubrey. I'm like that's stupid. Like kickers it's hard to predict. I will say. Yeah, they're logs. They're logs. They're all the same. Some other fucking kicker is going to do that this year. It used to. It's some other fucking kicker. I don't know. Who cares? It's predicted. It used to be you take a defense in the second and last round and a kicker in the last round. And now all the nerds got all uppity and they're like you know, defense is even less predictable than kickers now. You should take a kicker in the second last round, then take a defense in the last one. Don't even roster a defense or just play matchups. Just play matchups. Yeah, yeah. Just do that every week. And then like I go and I'm like, oh, well now I have to play matchups every week. Now you're like, yeah, I guess I got to start the Bengals in the ass. And I'm like kicker. No, I don't even, I have a lot of teams. I don't even have a kicker on my roster right now because I'm like, I'd rather like hold out to see if I'm running back. It's hurt and I'm like, I don't even have kickers on my team. But the defense is, defense is a little more stable year to year now. I'm like, there's five I really want. It's like Seahawks, Texans, Ravens, I think it'll be great with Jesse Mentor, the Vikings, the Rams, it's just a fun one. And when those five are gone, I'm like, man, wish I had one. I feel like Squidward watching SpongeBob and Patrick play. And I'm like, that must be cool to not think about that anymore. Yeah, it's a bit of the bell curve where like sometimes the guy who studies the least is just like, I remember like 10 years ago, a guy won our league or maybe got like second or something and he took like the Bears defense and like the fifth round and everyone's like, you're such a f*ckers. Is that the Clill Mac here? Yes. Bears scored like 23 points a game and I was like, this is the single best asset in the league right now is the f*ckers defense. There was a year, the Patriots 2019, remember when they started, was the scene going to start on the year? Well, they had a bunch of defensive touchdowns. They kept scoring. There was, I mean, it was the most incredible beginning to a half season ever. The Patriots defense was like one of the top 10 Texans in Fantasy. Texans. And I'm like, man, they're gonna be so good. Texans are going up against Cam War, Daniel Jones and Trevor Lawrence. But every year I'm like, I'm taking that elite defense. Well, why aren't you? It's like, 'cause I'm smart. Yeah. I study this all the time. That's why I don't want the good one. I'll take Michael Pittman instead. Yeah. F*ck. There's very much to like a, when we talk about something on a pod and then we don't do it on like a public, in a public forum, people are like, what the f*ck, you told me to, you told me this, that or the other. That's why I had to put my money when I'm out there with Luther Bird. Yeah. I appreciate that. We for better for worse. We took our own advice. I kind of like, I like that one. I kind of had the same thoughts in the, and I was like, wait, do we need to revisit why we're not doing this? No, we probably don't. Like with the defenses. It's really an everything. Anyways, I'm going back to the Buccaneers. The Buccaneers are a team I'm wanting to bet on this year and it is related to their offensive line. You know, potentially being top five, top three, maybe even the best offensive line in the NFL if everything falls right. I think Bucky Irving is one of the best values in drafts right now. Wow. We haven't talked about it at all. No, we haven't. Basically, I think in the assumption is, and a lot of times these assumptions will end up right. But a lot of times too, they're just completely wrong based on what we're, what everybody kind of agrees on in the preseason. The assumption right now is that Bucky Irving is small and slow. That was what the assumption was when he's coming into the NFL too. And he had an incredible rookie year. You know, he was one of the best values in drafts that year. He was the starter for that team. He split reps with Rashad White and he still had a great season. I think it was the RB17 or something you could have gotten him in the last round of your drafts. This year, and by the way, last year, he averaged 20 touches a game. He was the fourth in touches a game. He was fourth behind like Christian McCaffery, Bijan Robinson. Maybe it was like Jonathan Taylor. - You're not worried about Kenny Gainwell. - Well, I think Kenny Gainwell's just the new Rashad White. I think they will split time. I think there's very few running backs that are just going to get like all the carries. But I still think they trust him. And I think he's a very good running back. He's still-- - I love this. - He's healthy now. Like last year he had a shoulder injury and an ankle injury, or no sorry, a Liss Frank injury, which is terrible. It's like incredibly painful every time he's like trying to cut or run. Yeah, and so I don't know. To me, I'm just like, it feels like we've gone way too far on the reaction to Bucky Irving's season last year when he was hurt, though offensive line was hurt, and Baker Mayfield was hurt. And they also didn't really give him any red zone touches, but his rookie year they did. So I don't know. I just think we're overreacting to this Bucky thing, and he has a chance to be just like a really productive, high-touch guy. - This is an excellent take, and I actually have another Buccaneers take. It's not fantasy related. But I think Rubin Bane, the defensive end out of Miami, the Buccaneers got the 15th pick. - Bucky, I do it. - Is going to not only win defensive rookie the year, he is literally going to be a Hall of Famer, and him falling to 15th in the draft will have been infinite. - I know you're gonna say he'll win defensive player the year. - I, maybe not this year, but I do actually think Rubin Bane's like a Hall of Fame caliber defensive player, and we are, but his arms are short. - Half time of week one, we are going to be like, oh my God, how did Rubin Bane fall in the draft, and we're gonna talk about him on the draft show every year as the, when guys with weird measurables are great in college, stop thinking about it. - Aaron Donald. - You know how like, in fantasy drafts, there's always like a couple of players who fall like Kyron Williams or something. - For some fake reason. - Exactly, and then the second somebody drafts them, everybody goes, "Fuck, good pick." The second Rubin Bane got drafted, I was like, "Ah, great pick." - He's walking down the tunnel. He set the record for me. He walked down the tunnel, and he just, that whole mirror, selfie stage with the hat. He just grabbed the hat and kept walking, I'm like Hall of Famer. And then every single thing, the preseason of how professional, also doesn't wear gloves, I do. He's just going, he's a great one. - Also, it's so funny because the Buccaneers reaction, when he was there at 15 for them was so classed, they were like, "Fuck, what, what?" Like we had no, under no scenario, did we think that this was going to happen? They like basically were like, there's no world in which Bane is available for us. They had been connected to his teammate, Mesador, the entire pre-Jaff process. And they were like, "Fuck, we get like the guy "who's however many years younger and just better." And man, yeah, so I really like that take. The Buccaneers, maybe we're just all in on the Buccaneers. - I know, damn. - Bucks. - That's fun. I like when we kind of come together late in the season for a team. - Any others? - I have one that, like, this is more of an aggravation, and just something, I feel like we're overextending a little bit. I kind of think we're dulling out offensive coordinator jobs for 30-year-olds a little too much. (both laughing) - This is what we're just trying to get the next thing. - I think the young guru OC bubble is going to pop. We got, we got Declan Doyle, David Blaude, Davis Webb, Sean Manion. I'm like, "Are these coaches "or is this the new cast of X-Men?" I can't tell. Let's go through these. Declan Doyle, 30 years old. - Younger than you guys. - He was in OC for one year in Chicago, wasn't calling place behind Ben Johnson. There's a real shot, Declan Doyle doesn't remember 9/11. That's how young he was five when 9/11 happened. We have David Blaude for the commanders. 31 years old, he was the assistant quarterback's coach for two years in Washington. - Not even the quarterback's coach. - Assistant to the quarterback's coach. That's his entire coaching experience, is that. You have Davis Webb, the Broncos, offensive pass game coordinator in quarterback's coach for one year and is now calling place. - With Sean-- - With Sean Payne breathing out his neck. - Sean Manion. - New pressure son. - Sean Manion for the Eagles is 34 years old. His coaching history, his entire coaching history. 2024, he was the offensive assistant for the Packers and he was the quarterback's coach last year. That's it. Now he's the offensive play caller for Jalen Herd's sick one, Berkeley. - This is excellent. - Yeah. - Also, you think about just all these guys kind of sitting in the office like, so what happened to the last guy? Like Sean Manion's in Philly. Like, "Oh, what happened to the last guy?" - Oh yeah, people egged his house. (laughing) He was literally run out of town. - Literally run out of town. This is fantastic and I think it speaks to something. It's, there's just a shortage. It's, like, this is a role and there's not that many people, there are more jobs at this point than people who can do it. Because I think, are there any offensive coordinators that have been in offensive coordinator at this point for three consecutive seasons? I think I don't think there's any left. You know, it gets a little funny. Eddie reads really the coordinates in the city. - Oh, see versus play caller, right. - But the title though, see, I don't think anyone's been there in the three years in any role and they're running out of people who can do it. 'Cause there's no pipeline. - They're finding kids playing Madden on Twitch, giving them jobs. - It is true. - That might be kind of an edge. - We talked about this at the end of last season as a tattoo. - A Gen Z coordinators, I don't know. - We're like, it doesn't make more sense to cut and we're shitting on them now, to focus on the guys that we know are good are Ben Johnson and the Bears with the number one pick Caleb Williams. Liam Coney, the Jags, the number one pick Trevor Lawrence and we were like, "Mike would gain "on the charges in Herbert." Those guys are good. - Men in their 40s. - Yeah, everyone else who's like, "Isn't marinating "in the same system?" I mean, Jen Daniels in Washington, it's really concerning. Like David Blow? - No. - What's he doing? - I don't know. - No one knows. - 'Cause the truth is, you know who's really nervous for them? - Those guys. They're really worried. Like, it's incredibly nerve wracking. - We just got there. - There's just like a million things to do. I mean, you've kind of talked about this before in the past, like the checklist of things that a quarterback has to do before the snap. Like, think about how quickly the OC has to get the call in. He's looking at his card. - Five seconds. - Panicking, like, oh God. And like, by the way, you see this a lot on the, on the sideline. They're still trying to figure out like, was that a first down? Where'd they mark that down? What do I, do I start over a series now? Like, we get a first down. - Yeah, that's the Doyle's like hitting Cuberty in the middle of the game. - It's a lot. Balls drop in the third quarter. - Dude, and Davis Web in the Broncos. That's basically just Reese Bobbating. It's just like screaming in Davis Web. Like, "Come on, son, come on!" (laughing) - "Stop real soon, son!" Yeah, that's true. - You got hair on your peaches or what? - Davis Web's gonna be coaching with a live Cougar next to him. - That is, this is really good. - I just, I'm like, we're getting, we're really getting, we're flirting with just hiring dudes in their 20s. Like, we're getting, I think that's cool. I think that could go, it might have been 29 when they hired him. - Yeah, this is really good. - We're just really, really getting close. - Speaking of which, I have a few, I kind of just wanna rattle some off. - Okay. - And I don't even know if these are gonna rattle, you guys or not? - I only have a couple more that are minis. - I wanna throw lingering. - Just a few at you, one. I just don't think Miami's gonna win a game. - Ooh. - Oh, in 17. - I don't think so. - So you think Miami is clearly the worst team behind even Arizona or Cleveland? - I tried talking myself into like, what if they're better than you think? And then you, I'm like, you look at that receiver, Malik Willis is being set up to feel, I actually like him, he's a very nice guy. I want him to succeed. - Sure. - I am, the Dolphins receiver really is the worst I've ever seen. It's worse than like that Jets one ever made fun of in like 2019. It's the worst receiver group I've ever seen. The offensive line, I actually think it's quite a bit of potential, but man, they are raw. Like Kaden Proctor at Guard, like they're big, but I think they all could be good, but this is a raw team. H.H.A.N. was great under Mike McKennell. And then I'm like, they're linebacker. Like the green play collar is gonna be Jacob Rodriguez, who I like in college, but that's a rookie green dot play calling linebacker. Like it is like a little bit like Ted Lasso season one, like they're trying to like embarrass themselves. They want archmanning, man, and I actually want them to be good, but I don't know, dude. - H.H.A.N. I'm just looking at their roster in our lads. - It's unbelievable. - They have zero depth. Like they have some good players on defense, but if anybody gets hurt, it's gonna fucking collapse like a house of cards. 'Cause like I'm just looking at their, like just the people who are the second team players, it's a bunch of undrafted players and free agents. And they're just like filling out. - No one's talking about it enough. This is like, when's the last time you feel like a team has kind of like soft tanks openly. - It's the dolphins and the browns. So here's, first I take the tanking thing very seriously. It's not like the NBA. We're the coaching staffs a little in on it, and they're like, that's the deal, because you can't die playing basketball. But football's so physical that you can't, a coach can never lead a locker room of men where they think you're trying to lose. The whole thing, everything you're doing for risking your life, your body, players need to try to win. So in football, the front office is set the coach up to fail, and the coach kind of knows the deal. So like the implications and a lot of these losses from Ryan Flores allegation, like Hugh Jackson, the Owen 17 Browns. Why was it not fired if you're not winning a game? It was kind of maybe-- - Understood the assignment. - He maybe understood the assignment. Ryan Flores, in these like legal things, is saying, Stephen Ross is like, maybe allegedly offered him money to lose per loss. So like the dolphins and they already-- - And they lose a first round pick for that? - Yes. - Like it was a real thing. And so like this team has already tried this recently. They're trying to lose. And so, yeah, when they won a quarterback, so I think the really dolphins might not win again. - I do think the leadership of this team is not being set up to fail. They just know that this is a rebuild. - Can I zoom out a little bit? I want to dip my toe into college football as we head into the season and we prepare for the 2027 draft class. I think Archmaning is just Marvin Harrison Jr. for quarterbacks. And we're just doing it all over again. 'Cause of the name. - We're looking at the name on the back is this is famous family blindness. And we're just doing it again. And the March for Arch, whoever, what poor team is going to mind? - The March Madness, they're calling Bill and Suck. - March Madness is great. - This is just great. - Wow, the dolphins are going to take Archmaning. He's going to suck. That's what I think I'm not prepared to have a take on this. Yeah, but I like this take. I'm just one take. It's guys not that good But his name is Manning. It's it's just Marvin Harrison junior is good, manning. Maybe he'll be fine like Marvin Harrison junior is fine But he's not generational and we're just doing it again It's funny because also the problem is he's generational yeah, right literally generational maybe he'll be calling plays for dissolved in 2030 That's not bad That's pretty good Do you guys have any I have we were going to do one non football one? We have a more football. Yes, can I will come throw it a couple of intrusive thoughts I've had recently won I think J. Jim McCarthy's so bad in the NFL that I actually think the Michigan sheeting scandal is worse than I thought Yeah, he had the answers to the test. I keep like I need to see him improve before I might have to revisit my Expectations were low, but holy fuck. Yes, we should make that a category. Oh, we have I think a random one I have So this is like a real intrusive thought and if you say this outside to take purge, I will deny that I ever said this Mm-hmm. I will never know naturally. Yeah, it's a Giants fan. I would never stoop to saying something like this I kind of want to watch Jerry Jones win a Super Bowl What on here? I have like can we all be real Jerry won the Micah Bars Here we go this episode. It was the Micah trade a year ago. He cares so much right? This was on the take this last year. Holy shit Jerry the kind of a winning then what happened? How was your kind of cooking right now? They got Kenny Clark quitting Williams Malik. I don't rebuild their defense They got a fourth that they traded back from a pick that they got from Micah Parsons that turned into Roshan Gary If they have down so embarrassed, they have a top they have a top 10 defense by points for game I think you could call it I That's good. I think I think Jerry knew Micah Parsons was gonna tear his ACL He puts the sun's gonna be what he knew the ACL was 10 It's a rickety it's a rickety ACL. He knew he knew and he let it happen. I I love that here's the thing. I don't want to accomplish when the Super Bowl This is great. I don't want to act when the Super Bowl You want Jerry Jerry? I want Roger cadela hand Jerry Jones a trophy on that podium I would pay a disgusting amount of money to hear what Jerry Jones says into a microphone to 120 million people holding a learning trophy I want it to happen before it dies I'm kind of with high fits on this one. I didn't I had never thought about that until right now And I'm like, you know what I agree Kosan, he's gonna just go and we're never gonna see that again Also, we can see Sal. Yeah, I don't want to know what the Cowboys fans Just Jerry just just I want the Cowboys fans any other football ones you guys have now. I'm cooked I feel like I feel like that's a good natural spot Okay, and with the football takes in particular. Okay. Did you have it? Do you have a non football take? You want to get off your your chest here? I'm I apologize in advance if I've already told this to you guys and or if I've already said this on the podcasts But bacon ruins everything except for bacon. You're such a piece of shit Piece of shit who the fuck respectfully with all do respect who the fuck do you think you walk in here and say that to me first of all one question How dare you? So let's go through this because I believe a few days ago Daniel You told me that you bought a BLT. Oh, it was a club. Right. You bought a club sandwich and took the bacon off. Yeah Yeah, why did you not just order a turkey sandwich? Because they didn't have one on the menu It was really yeah, it was like a limited maze like it died. It was a room service So you're eating a club sandwich and you're like if the bacon were gone, this would be so much better No, when the bacon is gone, it is better What about a BLT? No, I just think bacon. I don't really eat BLTs. What about just this? I just think bacon is bacon is good on its own. I like the taste of bacon. Would you have it with the bacon hash brown? The smell of bacon is great. Yeah, if you're just eating it like a piece of bacon. Okay. Not saying bacon tastes bad I like it on its own and it's when it's cooked right. It's like fucking delicious and it smells great But when it's in other food, it fucking it's just like you're eating Bacon flavored something other and I don't like that. It's really good flavor. It's like chocolate in a dessert It overpowers everything you're saying. No, I'm saying I don't like the flavor of bacon in other stuff It's like I don't like mint in ice cream, but I chew mint gum. It's not a good combo to me Bacon is like mint is somehow more controversial I just don't like well, I don't like to your chocolate. I don't like fruit in chocolate. I just want the chocolate I don't like strawberries in chocolate. Would you throw bacon on a burger? No. No. I like the taste of a burger Great. A beer too. If I handed you a BLT for lunch and it was that or like Would you would you rather eat the BLT or do you rather eat the LT? Yeah, just lettuce and tomatoes I mean, I don't think I would do that. I think BLT is the best sandwich. Wow I think it is this rattling that off. I just think it's the simplest best flavors I feel like a purest balance of three flavors I think it's like the most perfect example of a sandwich from a flavor profile You know, it's funny. You say that because it's really just like the American version of like a Caprazae really, I guess Always meat prosciutto in that. Yeah Isn't it Caprazae just mozzarella tomato? Yeah, I got that wrong I think just I add meat. I feel like not having kai on this podcast is bad for my overall You're becoming now. I'm like the fucking little kid met like a palette guy. Yeah, but no little kid Step right up the little kid palette guy is this fucking guys I have a border. I don't want to go through Craig in these non football takes unless you don't love yours No, go ahead. I don't have anything. I don't well. I don't know. I don't know how you guys will feel about any of my takes. I never I love plastic bags What I love plastic bags. What does that even mean? What kind of bag you mean getting shamed at the grocery store? I get paid her back. Yeah, like in the grocery store or a CVS just saying you go and you have a plastic bag Yeah, and now we're trying to get rid of plastic bags And I want my plastic bags back and I hate that people with the cotton tote bags are like shaming me And cotton totes are now like this status symbol and I'm like a bad person if I forgot my cotton tote And I dare need to have a plastic bag I hate that and I need plastic bags. I like having them around and I don't want to be judged for having a plastic bag If it's just litters constantly I do think there's something to this take where the plastic bag shame Is like big corporations somehow like it's turning it around like it's awful Oh, it's like oh the nuclear waste that you're pouring into the river that we drink out of Don't look at the animals covered in oil that guy's using a straw how dare him use a fucking plastic bag It's like paper straws don't work all this stuff and I'm not saying I don't care about plastic or the environment. I do However The cotton tote thing first of all do you know how many first a woven cotton uses a lot of water Do you know how many times you have to use we don't have to no one has to bring down the people that are using totes I'm gonna it's the New York Times have this article. Do you know many times you have to use a woven cotton tote to offset the water that it created Because the answer is 400,000 times that was and I have 20 of them I Jesus the way I compare well, what's the stats on the plastic How many fucking animals are you killing with that thing? It's fine. It's not it's fine. Oh my don't look at it It's I will say I I use paper towels at such a reckless rate same. I love using paper towels. They're compostable or compost compostable compostable compostable compostable compostable Is that right? I don't even know what I like I love using just like mounds of paper towels for shit I know it's like maybe you're supposed to use a rag or something that you can wash. I just the plastic dude I have a cat I got to clean my litter you want me to use a giant fucking hefty garbage bag For that's like no, I'm a little plastic bag. It's a plastic bag. You know the you know the tweet the famous tweet that it's like Please people my family starving helped me fix my budget and it's like you know five like food rent Whatever medical bills and then 1300 dollars for candles. That's how I feel about like Keep making a big deal about plastic bags. I'm like there's so many bigger fucking problems right now This is a concentrate on Rick and Morty line where Morty takes an aluminum can out of a garbage and puts it in recycling And it feels good about himself and Rick is like congrats Morty aluminum is 8% of the earth. Good luck with that I use totes. I'm gonna say I don't judge him for not using totes, but I use totes. So get off my fucking back I there's no wrong with using a toe. It's just it's it's not better than the bags That's some belly ham hippie shit. Yeah, you're right. No, I'm just getting people know I use them all the time. I should I I like we I own No, I never take them to the grid. I always forget you forget the bag and you're in your car I walked to the grocery. Just even rain in this city God forbid. I have paper bags and Whole Foods God forbid it rains of these coasts And now I'm like fuck this is everything. This is like that. This is like finding one stat. It's like People who drink 12 beers a day live exactly as long as and I'm like that's all you had to say I'm drinking 12 beers a day Yeah, there's one alcohol I could live 200. Everyone's like let's do that I'm doing it. All the other ones died at 50, but that guy live if it's just a hyper focused on this water stat that like means nothing all right Craig um I think magician should be the most famous people in the world We don't give them the new sense we don't give them like in the way that we use the revered pilots You know they like wear suits down the in the terminal. You're like oh my god. What magicians man You've ever seen a magician in person. It's fucking crazy They're basically deities. I don't know how they do any of their shit They should be way more famous David Blaine should be the most famous person in the fucking world These are one the craziest shit you've ever seen it's the closest to literal Jesus Why do they have such a terrible? People don't, I get, I get job interested. I demand to be taken seriously. - I'm a fucking crazy, the shit they do. - I'm ready to do the magic castle in LA. Can you, but the magic castle has never been there. - Oh my God, dude, the magic castle is just, basically it's like the best magicians in Los Angeles. It's the rest of the development, the society is based on the magic castle. It's a real place where it's like they have a restaurant and then like crazy magician stuff. And I honestly was the most fun of them ever had in this fucking city. It was walk around the magic castle. - We went on our senior trip back in high school and one of the stops on the senior trip was like you know how, I don't know if you could do that in California or not, but like a senior trip. - Senior trip where everybody goes on an overnight trip and like a bus takes you to like five different places and everybody hangs out. - Not? - Do you do that? - Sorry, I don't know. It's like a senior party. - A night type thing? - Yeah, kind of. - Prom? - No, no, no. It was like a party. - We would do like an all night thing that the high school would sponsor on graduation night. - Yes, that's what it was. So anyways, we did this on our graduation. I don't think it was the same day, but whatever. And one of the stops was this magician. And people were fucking going bananas. Like getting up out of their seat, running up and down, like freaking out. It was the craziest shit I've ever seen in my life. - Why should we fucking mega celebrity? (laughing) 'Cause this is like how I feel about Cirque du Soleil. I'm like, these people should be revered. - Like, my buddy is talking about this. - My buddy for his birthday hired a magician for like 15 of us. And it was incredible. He blew it up. - I'm not. - He stood right in front of us. He was five feet in front of me. And I watched him like fill a coat can with soda after he poured it out. I don't know how he did that. (laughing) - Yes, sometimes like slight of hand is not. - It's unreal. - It's not an acceptable answer. I'm like, no, I was watching his hands. - Yeah. - So what do we think about Pobletori, who obviously has been in the news 'cause Kowai Leonard and the Clippers just got the big punishment? - Time for O's. - So he wins the Pulitzer and then he comes out and the first thing, he's like O's the mentalist. Not actually reading people's minds. And I was like, all right, how is this the Pulitzer? - I agree. I didn't want to know that. - Yeah, obviously I know he hasn't trick up his sleeve. That's the point. I agree. - I kind of wanted to know though, with that one. - I always wanted to sound out and you know what? - The answer sucked. - He did. - That's the answer. - He uses like a fake, oh don't tell him. - Oh, no. (laughing) - 'Cause that's like, I just saw the thing. - It's not a magician, it's more like fraud. - That's the thing. - Yeah. - When the night is guy knows that everyone gets angry. - Yeah. - Anyway, well, that's really good. - Good take out of nowhere. - It's fantastic. - Sure. - You pulled that out of your ass and I liked it. - Remember when David Blaine has like the best special ever? If you made a fucking space shuttle, despair. - Dude, the Harrison Ford one was like, "Get out of my house." - Get the fuck out of my house. - Do you remember that space shuttle thing? - I don't know. - I think it was David Blaine. - What was the one night? - Oh, oh. - It was Franz Harari. - Wow. - Not David Blaine. (sniffing) - Where am I? - What were we talking about? - What are those things? - How long has it been? - Were we talking about, were we just cryogenic crowds and clowns? - I don't know. - Wow. Anyway. - Can't wait to draft Brock Bowers this year. - Yeah, Steelers are gonna suck. - Bowers is the shit, man. - I'm excited about arch this year. It looks good. - I'm excited. - What? - Totally. - No idea what you're talking about. - Hateman Jason. - Oh, email is good. - So I want everyone to email us at ringer fantasy football. - I don't know what happened in our fuel way lighter though. - I feel like I just took a 10 pound shit. - I want everyone to email us at ringer fantasy football gmail.com. Email us your take purges. And also you can join our discord where there is a channel for take purges that is gonna be open for a couple more days. And yeah, email, email the take purge, post them in Discord and we'll post the best ones. There's a lot already. I don't even know when we're gonna run this 'cause there's like more good ones that are anticipated to be honest. But I want to see everyone's take purges. - Yeah, I love it. - I'm excited for that. Should I read you one? - One of those? - No. - Okay. - No. - 'Cause we're not in it. - No. - That's a good point. - Yeah, well dedicate a whole segment to it. - Okay. The next episode is, oh no, it's a power hour. So do you want to tell people our in season episode? 'Cause now believe it or not, we're in season. - This is the week the season begins. So now that the regular season is here, we will be posting four episodes a week. Sunday night reacting to the games Monday afternoon. We're doing waiver wire ads. Wednesday we have a power hour or we're powering something different every single week. And then on Friday we do our previews. And that's all season. - So yeah, four episodes a week, stick with us. - Can't wait to season's here. - I know. - It's kinda weird. - A week from now, we'll be watching Seahawks play the Patriots. - No, neither's ranch or Australia. - Three days from now. - Oh, three days from when people are listening. - Sure. - Or two days. - Okay. Thank you, DK. Thank you, Craig. Thank you to Cam. Thank you to Austin. Thank you to Nikhil. Thank you to Carlos for, I can't, I can't, I can't remember. Carlos, ask me to say something. I can't remember what it was. - Some eyes. - Thank you to Chris Sims, as always. - Thank you to our take-odd Chris Sims. Thank you to everyone in the ring of fancy football league. We're also going to be giving updates on that all season. And thank you everyone for listening to us for your drafts. Good luck on your drafts. We hope you did great and, you know, enjoy this running back running back starts. It's sure that'll go great. But most of all, thank you Lord. - Lord. - Do you want to do it today with the 80s hits? - No, do you have one? - We're doing, we're doing, the 80s were the best month. The most 80s songs ever month. What do you have? - I got for you right now. And technically this is from 1990, but it counts it. - Oh, okay, spiritually 80s. - What a terrible start. - She's my cherry pie from warrant. - Oh yeah, she's my cherry pie. That was like the easiest song in guitar. - I would have put my life that those in 80s song. - It counts, it counts they wrote it in the 80s. - Right? - You can tell. - She is my cherry pie. - That should be the rule for this. The 80s are till the Berlin Wall came down. That's on screen. - I think there's a little bit of leeway there. - But it's spiritually, spiritually really 80s. - It takes a couple years for the decade to end culturally and then it like begins like a 91 and 92 is really when the 80s, 90s start. - The 20th century ended in Berlin Wall, 90s are the weirdest in between. And then 9/11 is like the 21st century. Everything in the 90s was like a little silo. - Cherry pie, great one. - Hold on, actually, I don't know anything about warrant. - Yeah, I was gonna say, I just, I'm so stupid, you ever just Googled, I Googled cherry pie and I'm like, what the fuck did I think will they come up? - I don't know much about warrant. - God damn it, no I typed in cherry pie. - This is what's great about the 80s. - Glam metal, formed in 84 and Hollywood. - They were formed not far from here. - No. - Who is this? - Which I love. - Maybe in this guy. - They had a success from 89 to 96. - Why do all these people look like Val Kilmer? - Their debut album was "Dirty Rotten Filthy Stinking Rich." - 'Cause Val Kilmer was awesome in the 80s, you know? - Yeah, what was their debut decay? - "Dirty Rotten Filthy Stinking Rich" was the name of their first album. - Yeah man, we're just not doing it like that. - New what to do. They also had an album called "Doggy Dog." - Okay. - Sick. - Are they American? Did you say that? - They were formed in Hollywood. Yeah, American. - Glam metal? - Nice. - Glam metal. - Yeah. - Glam metal. - 'Cause they're really glamorous. - But they're metal. - I love it. 80s month is crazy. It's gonna be an amazing playlist. - Jeez. - Mad you. - There's so many bands dude, like 38 special, cheap trick. - The names. - Forer. - The names I think were the best. - We're gonna get into all this. - There's a lot of place names. Boston, Europe. - Boston, Europe. For sure. - In America. - America. - I don't know. - Boston, yeah. Boston's got some bangers. - Boston. - I always confuse Boston songs in Europe songs, but they're not. - Boston's like four play long time, more than a feeling. - More than a feeling. - It was a song. - It was a song. - I believe. - But Boston, I believe, is like a little bit more 70s. - Yes. - I think they started a little earlier. - Boston's older than Europe. - They sound 70s, more 70s to me. I would guess they're late 70s or early 80s. The fucking Bee Gees are also kind of late 70s. - The Bee Gees. - The Boston was formed in Boston in '75, so yeah. - That's right. - I could have guessed that one. - Yeah. - No, 80s is like, 80s get fucking weird. 80 songs are like bordering on like, is this bad? Or it's like really early, like futuristic sounds, like erasure, you know? - Like rush. - Sure, like rush. - Oh, rush, dude. My Jackie's dad is like, you do a lot of songs, like that he showed me rush. We played that album 2112. - On Russian Power Drive. - I was like, this is the greatest thing I've ever heard. - It's you gone a journey. - Dude, they're like, there's also a journey. - A journey? Dude, that rush album, the concept is they're like, they just find a time-traveling guitar. And these like, it's like interstellar elders - The drugs back then. - It's like good. - Lay you the guitar and you'll find your way. - I love that shit. - The 80s dude. - I had friends, I still have friends that are in like, I don't know, with glam metal or just a like, hair rock bands, like cover bands. - They're in them right now? - Yeah, it's like, this has really like, established itself in the heart of my specific generation. - That's cool. - I'm excited for 80s month. And I'm excited for the NFL season with you boys. - Yeah. - Emails your 80s suggestions. - That's what you're leaving. This is your last show in LA. - It's a bummer. - So we're doing this backwards. This is, we're recording the, players nobody's talking about after this. - Yes, but as the people hear it. - As the people hear it, this is the last one in person and then we start these things. - We'll peek behind the curtain. - Yeah. - Well, we could do LA breakdowns when I was gonna do the next one. - Oh, we could do that, you could do that. - Yeah, I wanted to do LA breakdowns there. - Great. - All right. - Goodbye, everyone. (upbeat music) - Must be 21 plus and present in select states. 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Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. The episode features a fictional "take purge" where hosts openly discuss intrusive thoughts and controversial fantasy football takes, revealing personal anxieties about team performance and player prospects.
  2. Key debates center on overhyping players like Brock Bowers, Caleb Williams, and Cam Ward, with hosts questioning whether overconfidence in analytics and preseason data leads to poor decision-making.
  3. The hosts express deep concerns about injuries, coaching changes, and roster stability—particularly with teams like the Bears, Chargers, and Titans—highlighting a growing belief that fantasy football strategies may be dangerously overreaching.

Summary:

This episode combines a satirical "take purge" format with in-depth fantasy football analysis, where hosts openly vent intrusive thoughts and controversial predictions about player performance. The discussion focuses on overhyping rookie quarterbacks like Brock Bowers and Caleb Williams, questioning whether inflated preseason stats and narrative hype mask underlying risks. Hosts express growing concern about injury trends, coaching instability, and roster health—especially in teams like the Bears, Chargers, and Titans—highlighting a shift from confidence to caution.

A recurring theme is the fear of overreacting to short-term data, with participants admitting to personal anxieties about team outcomes and player longevity. The episode critiques fantasy football trends such as overvaluing running backs and ignoring injury risks, emphasizing that extreme strategies often backfire. A central takeaway is that successful fantasy decisions require balance—acknowledging both data and intuition—especially when emotions and biases run high.

The hosts also touch on broader cultural patterns, like generational divides in player belief, and the influence of social media on team narratives. Ultimately, the episode serves as a self-reflective commentary on bias, overconfidence, and the psychological toll of constant analysis in sports fandom.

FAQs

The Take Purge is an annual event where participants vent intrusive thoughts or negative takes about players, teams, or situations. It's a structured moment of catharsis to release pressure and anxiety, especially around high-stakes decisions or beliefs.

Analysts feel anxious because these players are overrated in fantasy discussions, and they fear their performance won't meet expectations. This anxiety stems from concerns about statistical accuracy, injury risks, and the pressure of team narratives.

These intrusive thoughts reflect deep-seated fears about injuries, especially to key players like Darnell or Josh Simmons, and indicate how players' mental state and team dynamics influence fantasy and real-life decision-making.

It encourages a critical reassessment of draft decisions and team projections, such as overvaluing running backs or defensive units, and leads to more balanced, data-driven strategies based on actual performance rather than hype.

Cam Ward is viewed as a breakout candidate because he has a strong work ethic, a proven track record of performance in late-season games, and shares common traits with past quarterbacks who rebounded after coaching changes.

The advertising breaks serve as a narrative device to transition between content and highlight brand messages, such as from Verizon, ADT, or Brooks, while maintaining the tone of the Take Purge discussion.

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