The 2025 Criterion Episode

♪ It's a lonely island and set my as criteria collection. ♪ ♪ Park that's episode. ♪ Hey, everybody, this is very exciting. This is our second criterion collection episode. And while we were graced with the presence of Mike Sure and Jake Tapper last time out, we have recruited two new judges this time. Please welcome to the pod for the first time. Questlove and Lynn Manuel Miranda. (sighs) - Hello. - (laughs) - Hi guys. - Until you guys talk, nobody was gonna believe you were actually here. (laughs) I like that you left a dramatic gap before actually revealing yourselves. - We just wanted you to, you know, to feel alone for a second, though. - Now, did you, you guys were both kind enough to reach out and offer to do this, but did you actually think it would ever come to pass and we would take you up on it? - No, I always, I'm such a geek for the guys that I've learned early, if I showed too much geek, then people will run away. So. - Oh, I see. - But every day, I listen in the car one during like, damn, I could offer commentary on, you know, this is my most listened to podcast, according to my algorithms. - Oh, I'm very happy to hear. Hard same, hard same, quite army over here. - Right, just kill. - I knew I'd be free. I didn't think Quest would be free, 'cause he is the only person I know busier than me. (laughs) I'll tell you a story, Seth. It was like two days before Hamilton premiered, and I'd gotten word from our producers that the roots were gonna like play at our opening night party. And Quest came to the show, like just to see the show. And I was like, oh man, so excited for Sunday and he was like, what's Sunday? And I was like, oh my God, was I wrong? Did they give me the wrong information? Is it the roots without Quest somehow? I was like, the party, are you playing the party? And I was like, oh, Lynn, let me show you my schedule. And he pulled up this color coded schedule that was like hour by hour, where he was. DJ, making a movie, Jimmy Fallon time. - 24 hours at a time. - It's yeah, so you just can't look that far ahead. - He just like wasn't up to Sunday yet. And I was like, what must it be like? And now I'm on the other side of Hamilton. If I have to pack or anything and someone will warn me like four days ahead, you should pack because something's gonna happen on Monday. Which means there's a yellow line next to Seth Meyers and Lily Allen podcast in that schedule right now. And we are in it. - Oh no, I, you know what I should have been doing the day, Lynn? This is how committed I am to Quaid Army. I should be locking film today. I kind of told a white lie. Like, oh guys, I'll be in at six. - I have a dentist appointment. So I don't think anybody at Radical listens to you. - Oh yeah, you didn't have to throw the burn out. (both laughing) I mean, I can, I can emit a light on this podcast. - John Cayman is not Quaid Army. - Those two weeks aren't Quaid Army, man. - This is fantastic. I do wanna just like before we get started. Obviously you guys have some experience with Asadown Quest. You performed with two to the Maytals? - Yeah, I've been on the show in every configuration, except for the one that I really wanna be on, which is music guest. - I think we can hopefully make that happen one day. You know, I don't have a vote, but I feel like it should happen. - It'll happen. - You were, of course, you made the ladies and gentlemen, the incredible documentary about Asadown music. - Oh my god, I highly recommend. - The eight minute intro, the greatest first stage in the history of documentary film. - Yeah, I have to make my mark. - It's as good, and it's a good for, as like the first eight minutes is like a golden eye. You know what I mean? Like a crazy non-stop. - It's the saving private Ryan of Sirenet Live docs. - My inspiration for it was actually up. - Ah. - Because really up is the first 17 minutes. - Yeah, they are. - And then the movie's over after, you know. - Yeah. - You never hear anybody be like, I love the middle of up. - I forgive the middle of up, boy. - Oh yeah, no, of course. It's a classic, but it is. - The balloons do take the ass away. - That's right, exactly. - And then of course, you were in a tutor, the digital shirt that wasn't. - I made a bit that did not make it to air. - I tried and I had to pull. - When you see some of the ones that did, it's really, it's unbelievable that you were in one that didn't. - I get it, you know. I, you know, unfortunately, I chose something that I don't think is either definitely not criterion and definitely not Kim's video, so. - Yes. And then Lynn, you hosted and I've come back, came back last year. - Yeah, I'm sort of, I'm sort of on call. My Hamilton costume is probably at 30 rock for whenever they need it. - Yeah, you've made a terrible mistake, which is you're willing and close. - Yeah, exactly. Well, you're in town anyway, Lynn. - You did a couple of pre-tapes when you hosted a Crucible cast party, which is really funny and great, but also the really wonderful Julio Torres Diego calls his mom. - Julio's a genius, I feel lucky to be in an early Julio. - It was, it's like early Julio. That's a good way of putting it. And there wasn't a lot of late Julio because he was one of those incredible writers that SNL who just realized, I think I've done what I've come here for. And you're like, what? - Yeah, he was on his own track. - I think I left and then three years after I left, I hosted and he was already gone. We didn't overlap and he'd already, I was like, oh, I'm so excited to work with Julio. And I'm like, no. - Once you write Wells for Boys, what's left to do? - Yeah, what are you gonna do? - You hate your ceiling. - Everything else is for you. - All right, so we have, we have 36. That's exactly how many we went through last time. - Okay. - So I feel like we're gonna go through the 36 and then maybe if we have time, I'll go through the first 36 to see if you have any thoughts because I kind of feel like, I don't know what we'll call it, like, save a friend. If there's something you feel like was an oversight for Criterion, you know? - I mean, we could start there. - Speak now forever, Julio. - Do you wanna start? All right, so. - I'll just say what the internet is already saying, which is lasercats should be one criteria in the collection in the Criterion slot. - Okay, so lasercats did not get 75% of them. - Like, we can't judge, we can't judge. - Gotcha. - Almond's. - Lasercats as a concept. - It's all one story. - So you're saying, you were, you were my thinking of this, which is lasercats as a combination is Criterion. - Yes, I think individually it's Criterion too, but it's like, why waste those slots when it's really one long, I mean, it's like dividing a symphony into movements and judging each piece. - Did I ask a question though? - Please. All right, so. - The lasers shoot out of their mouths and then also their eyes sometimes. - Thank you, that's all I wanted to know, Seth, I appreciate it. No, no, okay, so I'll put it this way then. If, and the thing is, I absolutely agree that lasercats as a concept should be an entry. - Yeah. - You know, in Criterion, however, does that also mean that the, the, wait a minute, what do you call those guys, the trilogy, the, - Oh, the dick in the box, guys. - Yeah, I think we, I don't know if they actually-- - Wait, do they have a name? Do they have a title? - No, not really. They're the color me bad-ish guys. - Yeah. - I feel like they're, I feel like they're different. - But yeah, but wouldn't most, wouldn't, would those three count as a trilogy then? Because-- - No, I feel like they're individual enough. Because each one has a song that you remember the song right away where it's like, even those guys, I bet, if you were like, which one is lasercats five, they couldn't answer until they rewatched. - Got you. - Okay. - And by the way, no judgment, I couldn't either. And you're, but definitely couldn't. You're, but probably couldn't even tell you which one dick in the box was. - Got it. But wait, question, did any of the guy number one, guy number two bits make it to criterion? - They never were SNL. You're like the, the we like sports guys. Yeah, that was sort of predated SNL. - Nah. - Okay. - Also, that was a Kiva in Yorma and not Andy. And I think Lauren would have rather canceled the show. - I don't know, but you know. - Really, I got it, okay. - Once Lauren decided that Andy was the one who was gonna be on camera, he didn't, he kind of felt like the rest of the world should agree with him forever. - So you're saying that every bit has Andy in it, every lonely island bit has Andy in it? - Yes. I think so. I can't think of a lonely island. I mean, they did maybe. - Well, Virginia Horseson. - Yeah, Virginia Horseson. Yeah, Virginia Horseson me counted. Body fusion, no Andy. - Okay. - So there's a couple. - Got it. - Yeah, mostly though. You're gonna, you're gonna get Andy. I'm gonna go through him. And obviously, as many thoughts that you have, and I also, we've had our listeners vote. We had great many more listeners voted for this 36th and last one. So thanks to them. And we also added the category of Kim's video for our listeners. - Got it. - So wait, the categories are Criterion, Kim's video, and additional reading? - We just did the third category we called No. (laughing) And by the way, our listeners seemed to know exactly what that meant. - Based on the vote. - Got it, okay. - And we sort of have said like for Criterion, it's not a, what do you call it? It's not a plurality, it's 75%. We kind of go on by like, Hall of Fame rules. So, space Olympics. - I've got that in Kim's video. For me, Kim's video is, really makes me laugh hard, but has not like permeated global culture. - Yeah, right. - You're like, you can live a full life without seeing space Olympics and never like, embarrass yourself at a dinners park. - At a dinner party. - Yeah, exactly. But my kids laughed so hard at space Olympics. I was watching sort of the Dropbox with my kids this morning and they actually changed some of my decisions. - Yeah, I will say that's Kim's video. - The audience agrees, they also say Kim's video. I will, a lot of times in why I've been a terrible bell weather over the years. The hardest I've laughed when I heard the song first end up being like a little bit more Kim's video than Criterion. The first time they played me space Olympics. Like that thing of Andy just like, things keep going wrong. Song. things are my favorite, it's my favorite kind of Andy comedy, especially when he's singing sort of full-throatedly. And when you all dissect it is what I love about is it takes so long to get going, it's like not until three minutes you realize that space Olympics are not in great financial shape. Yeah. And it's also like the way it looks in starts I think people are very excited for a different idea. Like it looks like it's going to be this big positive thing and again it was like coming out of the Olympics and it was just financial troubles. It's worth it. So, all right, hey was the next one, which even now I kind of can't quite remember. I think it was this sort of hey, what is it? Was that on the Dropbox? Hey is a feel free to jump in Kevin if we can't quite remember, but is hey the very quiet like gossip girly one? Oh, I have that named, I think in the video had a different name, it was Murray Hill. Oh yeah. Murray Hill is what it's called. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I think we can just based on everything that's happened so far just jump to know. That's a no. Yeah. I will say it also had the fewest yes votes of any that we're going to do. Yeah. 55 out of 5,000 listeners were like criterion, 100%. Yeah. Well, wait a minute. Was that was that ever reviewed on the podcast though? I think it was, but I think we might have I so we actually have I think they didn't love the way it ended and they were they kind of sped through it. I think we may be sped through three in a row because coming into this section, we have some and again, they'll heat up later in this in this run, but we also have extreme challenge and jam the vote. And I think we might have done those all in one episode, right? I put extreme challenge in Kib's video. That really makes me laugh. Extreme challenge has some nice stuff. It definitely had a majority no vote, but generally if will for Tay, if it like pivots to will for Tay, taking over the video, it automatically goes to Kim's or maybe it's just we have a secondary. There's a section in Kim's video called Will's videos will videos and it's behind a curtain like the X rated videos. Yes. Like you have to go over here to see them and Will's always there and he's like, I don't know. And he's naked and crying. Don't look at me. Jam the vote. I only have a Andy loves throwing up. I hate throwing up comedy. It's one. Yeah. It was of its time because I remember those rock the vote ads were inescapable, but it's very. Where are they in 2008? I feel like rock the vote was like like a baby is there. Oh no. Rock the vote was definitely like 2004 during the yeah. The second half of Bush to yeah, when M&M was writing mosh. Yeah. Hester timeline. They thought they needed to rock the vote because it was it was John Kerry. There was there's a world in which M&M's mosh changed the fate of the Hey nerd nerd. Um, I'm very excited, uh, mostly just, uh, to hear thoughts from two people who are very adept and informed about music because the next one up is Ross Trent. Oh my god. Okay. So here's one I went in thinking this is criterion. It's probably one you guys quote most on the podcast. Yes. I played it for my kids. They didn't have any reference point for it. Like they don't know white, roster guys. Oh right. They listen to reggae music, they don't know what they didn't like, there was no way in for them. I laughed my head off at us. And maybe it makes criteria and just because it's what makes Rihanna say yes and leads to Siroani. Yeah. Yeah. No, that's true. You know, I mean, it's sort of it's definitely you're saying it's definitely not kids video with a D. It's not. It's not. No, it's not. I did not. I'm laughing my head off and they were just like blinking at it. See, but maybe it's the THX 1138 that leads to Star Wars. Yeah. The best joke of that whole bit is it goes by in three seconds, which is kind of the. I know what you're going to say. The code switching of roster it, yeah, when he turns into Siroani talking in the low voice in front of the brothers, like to me, when I saw that be very first time, that was an instant, but it's like blinking. You missed it. Yeah. Yeah. I still say for that 1.9 seconds alone, that's that's my shit. I'm happy to say that the voters were a big yes on Ross trend. All right. I revise my opinion. We can kick that up to Criterion. [MUSIC] But I will say I'm not even being a young person when I saw it. I also did not get the, sort of the granular observation about, you know, so roster, scom music. And so this was maybe my favorite episode of the pod to hear those guys explain all the reference points. Were you learning the most? It was maybe, and I'm again, I remember it, you know, keep being like, would you just stop start? And I was like, I don't think. And I was like, oh, this is really what I was like, you know, this needs footnotes. Those guys are a lot of things to me. They're rarely interesting, and yet that day. Man. Also, the nugget that Joanna Newsom is singing back up. I know. Pretty good, nugget. That alone, it's like, all right, this is really classic. Up next is Paul Rudd, everyone's a critic. Wait a minute. I made a mistake of showing this to my kids. I remember you guys doing that episode, and I wasn't familiar with it. And when I watched it again, I remember changing my mind about it. I think I told the guys it was Kim's video. Yeah. I think it's Kim's video. I would also concur with Kim's video. Yeah. And Quest, I've seen the painting Rudd keeps it in a closet in his house. Have you been to his house? I've been to his house. I went to his house recently and he brought the painting out. Yeah. He keeps it in his basement. He keeps everyone safe by keeping in his basement in the closet. Yes. It was a party, it was sort of like a karaoke night at Rudd's house, and definitely not a lot of members of Quaid Army there. And so when he brought out the painting, it was a real like, people are like, what? And you're like, don't. They're like, what's this? And it's like, it would take way too long to explain. Oh, real quick. Just because, do you think Quest, do you think Toots and The Maytels would enjoy Rostrand? No, I'm telling you, sport. Okay, being as though my entire livelihood depended on every spring fling and spring college concert. I mean, the roots would do like, at least 150 spring flings. The roots played by senior year spring fling, Quest, and they're at least 30 rostrends. Yeah. I went to Wesleyan, guys. And the real reason is because Wu-Tang would cancel the last minute, and we'd be at home waiting, you guys come to Dartmouth University meets, that's literally how we played every college because somebody from Wu-Tang was messing up. That's the best. So then when you booked Wu-Tang, they would also go, and here's just a phone number that you're going to need to do before they automatically know, like, no, I'm not lying. My first house was purchased on even the rage against machine Wu-Tang tour that like, my first house was purchased because of Wu-Tang. So I'm like the 12th member, but I will say that just my existence on a college campus between 93 to about, you know, in 2008, Rostrands would basically drive the 15 passenger van that would pick us up from whatever city we were just in. He's usually the weed provider, smells like both underarm and patchouly at the same time, you know, and listens to either a definitive juxtap or just the deepest drum and bass, like something from 96. Yes. I'm very familiar with all the rostrends of the world. And do you have a affection for the rostrends? I mean, you know, it's hard for me to bite the hand that fed me. The drove you? Yeah. But I'm also the meditative root. So, you know, my dressing room is very silent, very zen, very dark, so I didn't have to deal with them too much. Do you remember the roots show at Wesleyan? Well, Lynn? Very well. It was huge. This is a marquee rostrend piece opened. Oh my God. They just a friend five times. I was going to ask what the -- I mean, the roots came out and I decimated, because I mean, that's the secret magic trick is like they can play anything, and they did. And it's -- yeah. It was incredible. Thank you. I appreciate that, Lynn. Yeah. I would imagine the roots more than a lot of college bands. And I hear now, like, when I go do stand-up colleges, they say one of the hardest things is, like, people don't take a risk and go see a band they don't know at a college anymore. I feel like we are the last, like, one of the last -- I mean, of course. There's people -- I mean, there's now Robert Glassberg, ThunderCat. Like, there's still people under the generational umbrella that we were part of. But, yeah, I do find out -- as the years go by, it's hard for people to just really channel in what's in their hearts as far as, like, finding out something that's not popular, you know? So -- Yeah. And I would imagine, though, like, the great reveal of, like, "Oh, I'll check out the the roots is realizing like all genres, knowing exactly what the audience to answer any given time. - Well, they wouldn't be too, none of the colleges were for it. Like all those students would actually think it's Wu Teng time until the very last minute where like the dean comes out like, is this thing going? Hello, hello graduating class of Dartmouth University. Welcome to the, now as you may have heard, Ray Kwan and Ghostface could not make it, and then, and then, and so on, I'm Philadelphia, the Roots. - Oh man. - That's how it would happen, so. - Every white dean's nightmare is telling an auditorium that the, like Kwan didn't make it. - Yeah, but, (laughs) - I don't teach that in dean school. - No, we knew we had five minutes to make it impression, or, you know, or a slim man, Miranda's going back to his dorm, so. (laughs) We have five minutes to make the point, so. - All right, here's another. I mean, this is an actual, well, a slam dunk, right? Jay's in my pants. - Oh god, yeah. - That is probably my fourth favorite. That's criteria. (audience laughing) ♪ Once I shift in my path ♪ ♪ I just stay to great and I shift in my path ♪ ♪ I will do it again ♪ ♪ I swear to you guys, can I? ♪ - I have a collection of, like, my favorite Lonely Island rhymes, and Grocery, mostly, is near the top of that. (laughs) - That's a real good one. - Grocery. - A lot of them are from the Netflix thing. - What? - The, as they can say, go. - Oh, the best brothers? - Yeah, yeah. - He had a ding-dong duel with my ding-dong bat. - Yeah, just hit a tater out the state here. I mean, there's just insane things those boys write. - My name is Mark, no, it's not Mark, and I like to eat pork 'cause it stays to you on my fork. - Yes. - But I jork it out the pork. - Jork it out the pork. The very, the fact of, like, in a rap, saying what your name is, and then correcting people on a name nobody ever thought it was. (laughs) Like, nobody ever thought it was Mark. (laughs) - Don't confuse me with Mark. - Like, before, before you even say, it's Mark. - You're like, yeah, yeah, we know. You know, because you guys are so gifted musically as well. When you first hear a song, are you still, though, do you love it for the comedy or the music, or just the fact that they're doing both so well? - You know, it's weird, normally for television, music's the cornyest factor of most background music and whatnot. So even with Lazy Sunday, I specifically remember having us, and this is like when I first got Tivo. - Yeah. - I T-vote SNL. I was doing double duty. I was probably, like, taking a shower, but I had the volume of, like, super loud in the other room. And I remember, like, I was in the bathroom, and I heard this hard-ass beat. And hip-hop jargon, if someone says, "Yo, that's hard." That's like your three Michelin star compliment. And I just remember thinking, like, "Yo, I don't remember SNL." Like, I've watched many in SNL rap parody, and it always sounds like whatever Barney Rubble rhymes to on the fruity pebbles. Like, the second line is always, and I'm here to say that, I like it, I like it. Like, anyone that has, and I'm here to say, as their second line, that's it. - Yeah. - So this was far from your Fresh Prince of Bel Air interstitial music. - Yeah. - This was, like, hard enough for, like, the roots to one of rhyme over. So then I watched it again, and I was like, "Wow, I never remembered a SNL bit "that I would deem dope enough for me "to want to listen to, like, just to listen to it." Not like, "Hey, this is funny." So, yeah, the music element, and, you know, shout out to Yorm, and all the producers that contribute to their, like, they put extra, extra thought behind the music. And that, to me, was like the most impressive part of it. - Agreed, it's not an accent. When I look at my criteria in collection, it's almost all songs. - Yeah. - Like, it's that alchemy of, like, they work very hard to make these very dumb things. - Yeah. - And the music brings it to another level. - They also, you know, working with them, they were so, the three of them were so supportive of the rest of the cast, the rest of the writers. They were fans of other people's work. They were not snobby towards other people, but they had this internal snobbyness about their own work, right? Like, they'd never wanted to, like, not live up to their own standard or take any shortcuts, and I think it's, like, one of the reasons. - Yeah, they were gonna jorke it out the pork every time. - They jorke it out the pork. Here's one. This is one where, unlike Mark McGuire, it's Virginia Horson, I always get this one. So that's one where you do have to clarify. Virginia Horson's pony express. - Every time I think about her playing the other characters and being turned on by Virginia, like, that, like, eyebrow waffles, I just start laughing all over. This is an instant Kim's video for me. - Yeah. - Wait, this is where Wig delivers the mail for you, but you have to send her the mail? - Yeah. - Or deliver the mail. - And she's like, "Hey, howdy partner." It's a lot of weird, like, a lot of green screens. - It's the Wig-Yist Wig. - Yeah, I was going to say, I remember all of our horse travels being a green screen. - Yeah. - It's total Kim's video and a full delight. - Yeah, it's like concentrated Wig. It's the best. - Cookies is basically a film sketch. That's Fred eating cookies in the middle of a conference room. - Yes. - Very nice Fred performance, but-- - But that's a no. - Yeah, 'cause there's only one joke in it, really. - And, you know, I will say they did a really nice job, again, this speaks to like they would, I think on weeks where maybe they had not been inspired to have like one of their incredible, you know, multi-platinum songs. They would see something at the table read and be like, "Oh, that would be a fun thing to shoot." And then it was, and it was very nice in the show. - Yes. - But, "Dougie Houser" theme? - See. - This is "Criterion" for me. - Really? - Yeah, I love it. - I am moved. It is moving. It's one of the only truly moving lonely island sketches, 'cause the whole cast gets to play. - Yeah. - And it's like him honoring his youth. It's so beautiful. (laughs) It is really, I find it genuinely touching that he can play that on the piano. I can't play half my Hamilton shit. - It was. I mean, I think that was truly impressive. I mean, Neil Patrick Harris is someone who is constantly capable of impressing you beyond what you would think his already impressive talents are. But, what do you land, Quest? - I believe that that's "Criterion". But, let me ask you, how many slots are in "Criterion"? - Well, you know what, we're not gonna like cap it, but I will say like, of the first 36, we had six "Criterion". It seems like one of six tends to break through, and that's where the voters landed this round as well. Now, I will say, the voters do not agree on "Criterion" for "Dougie Houser". - Really? - It might just be 'cause they're younger and they don't have an emotional connection to that young doctor that helped us through the '90s. - Yeah. - A couple of homies? Is a couple of homies? Which one's that, Kevin? Is that them at a party? - No, that's the one that starts with them high-fiving and ends with will-fortacing in a booth. - Oh, yeah, that's so, that's Will's video. - Again, I bumped this to Kim 'cause it belongs in that category of, it starts with that one thing that ends with being about will-fortay being amazing. - Yeah. - All right, I'll write with Lynn on this one. I haven't seen it enough for me to actually weigh in. - And it weirdly has a beginning, middle, and end. At the end, there's like a wrap-up where it's like, it started by slapping five. - Oh, yeah. - It does seem like this one, maybe, this is what you come up with when you haven't come up with it. - Yeah, but not a bad execution. All right, then we have laser-cats forever. See, I'm gonna prove my own point and immediately forget which one, laser-cats. - This is Steve Martin. - Steve Martin, yeah, that's really fun. - Wasn't the fourth one the best one though? - Laser-cats five with Sigorni. And that had all the A and F. - You're right, you're right. That is the best one. - But this one does have, it also has the wonderful Darth Vader turn of it's keen in the whole time and then they take his mask off and it's Steve Martin. He goes from a black guy to a white guy like we've been hearing Darth Vader and then suddenly we see a pasty white guy when the mask comes off. Which is so inside baseball and so funny. - And this one completely split the audience, who the most people said it was criterion, but not enough to actually get to 75%. But a lot of people thought it was Kim's, a lot of people thought it was no. I think that's kind of what laser-cats is. It sort of spreads it around as far as where you land on it. Then we have, I believe this is the only one. Under a hundred people said it was Kim's. Under a hundred said it was no. And everybody else said I'm on a boat is criterion. - Yeah, no doubt. - It's what you sing when you get on a boat. - Yeah. - Like that's how much it's permeated. - Right. - If you're lucky enough to get on a boat, you put that on the playlist. - Right. ♪ Take a good heart, look at the motherf*ckin' boat. ♪ ♪ I'm on a boat, I'll take a look at me. ♪ ♪ Straightened on a boat on the DPC. ♪ ♪ Bust it by night, wind whipping at my coat. ♪ ♪ You can't stop me, but oh, 'cause I'm on a boat. ♪ ♪ Picture drink, drink, I'm on a boat. ♪ ♪ If you drink and stand, tan a shame. ♪ ♪ 'Cause it's so criss-crossed. ♪ ♪ I got my swim trucks in my living floppies. ♪ ♪ I'm flipping burgers. ♪ ♪ You at Kinko Straight, flipping cavies. ♪ - So, will these all be ranked, or will they just be grouped in? - I think we're gonna group them into criteria. I don't where we're ever gonna do a full rank, yeah. - Because the thing is, I agree that it is criterion. However, whenever I look at any pole of lonely island videos, the only thing I disagree with this, Most people. - Well, unanimously, I'm gonna vote the number one video. Like way above, dig in a box, wait. - I don't think it's the number one video by a long shot. - I think it's the most fun, it's the most anthemic song to sing and it did make, it is the number one song I think of when I think of Boats, which have been around, you know, for really thousands of years. - It displaced Rio by Duran Duran. If you're a new baby like me, you listen to Rio because Duran Duran's on that boat. - It's crazy that, I mean, I feel like everybody was like, it was the kind of song that everybody was bummed they didn't think of. Like why don't we make a boat anthem? - Right, you're right. - And I said it when we talked about it, but we were at a club in Vegas for Andy's bachelor party and the DJ played it and it was the saddest I've ever seen Andy, that's not what Andy wanted. (laughing) - Not like this, he discovered he's a big rapper, getting love in the club. - Well, it also didn't help that the DJ said, give it up for Adam Sandberg, so. - It was a lot, a lot went wrong. (laughing) It was a lot went wrong. (laughing) To be honest, it's pretty cool that you're still marrying him after you got. - Right. - Or if you got ashamed like that. - Wait, and actually, will this be the first episode in which we won't mention our New York Times game status at all? - Unless you guys play and want to throw it out. - I think it's absolutely diabolical. When someone gets that many Queen B's in a row. - Yeah. - I think that he's a serial killer. Like Ryan Murphy will be doing. - Oh, you think it's gonna be a Ryan Murphy? - I believe Ryan Murphy will be doing an Andy Sanberg story if he gets one more Queen B monster at the end of. - The Adam Sanberg story. - It's gonna be Queen B, Black Widow. (laughing) - Yo, someone that's smart for their own good, you see, smart friends own good man. And he'll let me know like at zero in the morning, like the second he gets Queen B. And it's always. - Wait, you're on the B list as well? - I mean, I have my own lonely chain. And he'll let me know like I was just keeping it, you know, I was keeping it word-o. - He loves telling people. - They just laugh at word-o like that's so three years ago. You know, like I'm trying to keep fetching alive or whatever, but yeah, he's never solved a Queen B before like 10 a.m. East Coast, so. - Yeah, it is weird. It's full Savant. I thought he was kind of a Savant, but I liked that your theory is that he's just like a serial killer hasn't figured it out yet. (laughing) - You know, that's serial killer. - This is the gateway. - Property of the Queen, that's the Jonas Brothers, where we started all old songs. There's on. - This is a no for me. - That's a no. - I think all of the Silent Live cast look really hot as rockers, like they look really authentically 80s. - Party guys is where they're like, oh look at that serial rapist in four days, having sex with a box of serial, specifically. Some nice jokes, but it's a no, I think party is. - Wait, party guys isn't even a. - Kim's? - Kim's? - I have it under Kim's. - Oh, I'm sorry. I shouldn't jump there. - Of the escalation. - You know what, we had a lot of votes for Kim's. I should not blow right by Kim's as a potential answer for party guys. - Yeah, I think party guys is the least Kim's. - Yeah, I think if you're like a deep cut, I mean again, Kim's like, oh, you love, like it's like the thing you say. Like, oh, you love like a boss? Check out party guys, you know? - Yeah. - What about this is now, you know, they're on a red hot streak right now. So I'm on a boat and then three shows later, like a boss. - Yeah, criteria. - Criterion. ♪ Promote synergy, hit on Deborah ♪ ♪ Get rejected, swallow sadness ♪ ♪ Send some faxes, call a sex line ♪ ♪ Cry deeply, demand to refund ♪ ♪ Eat a bagel, harass me lawsuit ♪ ♪ No promotion, fit the vodka ♪ ♪ I'm Deborah's desk, buy a gun ♪ ♪ Eat my mouth, oh crap me and I can't ever do it again ♪ ♪ Pussy yeah, put your mouth, you called Deborah's hair ♪ - All right, here's where I lose all my credibility. I will admit that I heard the lonely island version first. - Wow. So you went to them and you were like, guys. - Shit on Deborah's desk. - Slim Thug ripped you off. - No, it was once when I heard the Slim Thug version, I was like, oh, that's where they got that from. 'Cause by that point, I was like, "Yo, man, these guys are too hard for their own good." Like, I like my funny rappers funny, not like a threat to me. - So was there relief when you heard that? - Oh, thank goodness. - I gotta admit, yes, yes, I gotta admit. Like humor, humor for me is the most underrated kind of character trait that I think, the hip-hop that I love is missing, you know? - Yes. - They lost soul with humors. Believe it or not, sometimes NWA was humors. Like, yes, humor to me is the angle. Like, Biggie was charming and humors. He had a lot of funny double tendras and, you know, get it jukes and all those things. - Yeah, it is another very fun one. Like, I'm on a very fun one to scream along with. - Yes. - And then, you know, mother lover, which is the first time I feel like they really had to follow a hit with another hit after Dick and a Box. 'Cause, you know, Dick and a Box could've been one and done and it would be like, I'm on a boat and you would love it forever. And the fact that they ran it back is so impressive to me. - And really funny. Like, I think the funniest of the platinum classics in this criterion, I'ma make a mama do a million poses. Like, there's so many just weird funny. Cam a mile, like there's so many weird funny turns of phrase in it. - I was gonna say, mother lover has probably the best subliminal ad-libs. - Yeah. - Like, a blink and you miss it. Like, mother lover to me, it's, it rewards repeated listening. ♪ You thinking what I'm thinking ♪ ♪ I'm thinking I think it too ♪ ♪ Slow up, one times a dough ♪ ♪ It's time for us to reach your rule ♪ ♪ We both love our moms ♪ ♪ Women with wrong giving needs ♪ ♪ I say we break our moms ♪ ♪ Show 'em how much they really mean ♪ ♪ 'Cause ♪ ♪ I'm a mother lover ♪ ♪ You're a mother lover ♪ ♪ We sh*t ♪ ♪ Show 'em the smother s*ck ♪ ♪ Show 'em the smother s*ck ♪ ♪ I'm a mother lover ♪ ♪ You came out as a baby ♪ ♪ Take no doubt the s*ck is crazy ♪ ♪ You're a mother lover ♪ - But here's the thing also, is this the definitive criterion list and never to be rethought of again or? - Well, we're gonna run it by the guys, and then we will officially stamp it, yeah. - Got it. I'm only asking because for me, I have so many other favorites, but it's like I get the point, and I'm not saying the whole like laser cats, like they should all be under one category, under whoever those get, the dick at 'em box guys. - Yeah. - Yes, mother lover and subsequently, the three way one are to me, a level, lonely island, prime comedy, but I would actually wanna make space for two, but you feel as though those songs on their own have enough merit and humor for it actually to justify. - Mother lover, for me, I enjoy more than dick in a box. - Really? I think it's hookier. - And I've said this before, I also thought because they had to outdo themselves. You know, there's that trap of S&L recurring characters, which is, are you just like going back to the well and the fact that they were like, no, it's gonna be a whole new thing. - Whole new song. - So this guy's next to the making copies guy. - Right, right. - Okay, I can take that. Well, the thing is also, you didn't know what you were gonna get with dick in a box though. - Yeah. - So my laugh was genuinely harder because I didn't know what the hell was happening. - Right. - But with mother lover though, it was like so much pressure like, okay, this better be just as good or, you know, I mean, sometimes it happens. - Yeah, I also feel like dick in the box was like a dead-on spoof of a certain kind of '90s R&B, especially when they start outlining the steps. - Yeah. - So it's funny on like that parody level. And then I think with mother lover, the lines kind of created their own genre. - Right. - Like what is mother lover a spoof of other than the insane concept inside it? And it's a great song and they sing the shit out of it. - And also it's like double or like three times the lyrics to dick in a box, you know what I mean? It's 'cause it's the staccato rhythm of it is. Like so they get so much more into it. - It's like an Eminem album. Like I have to listen to Eminem on slow speed. And I already wind a lot. Like I've not listened to an Eminem album just like casual. - You have to study it. - Yeah. - You don't have it on while you're doing stuff. - Yeah, exactly. - The other thing I like is I feel like dick in a box might take away from those characters is they were perverts. And then in this one I'm like, oh they're also stupid. (laughing) I like the comedy was like, oh these are also really just dumb guys. And I like just they're like sort of vacant stare. While they were also like doing these verbal gymnastics is one of my favorite men. - Yes, it's true. - The date is the date Forte and Megan Fox? - Yes and I kill the sheep and I have nightmares and then I have to do swap. It's a no for me but it's a great Forte performance. - Yeah, it's funny but it's a no. - Yeah, for me personally I would say, you know it's in my top 10 rewatches 'cause it's like all the weird turns the Forte makes. I would resoundingly choose to put it in Kim's video. - Yeah and you know what, the ending's a bummer. I want them to be happy. - And you know what, I kind of agree with you. I think it's a little. Like she loves this sheep murdering swatheed man. - It's a little sad. - Like let her find love and she looks so beautiful and her hair is blowing. - Yeah, 'cause I was rooting for him. - I wish they'd ended up together. - Yeah. - "Megage Remate" is another no. That's when her roommate is Optimus Prime. - See, this one I put in Kim's video just because the transformation really made me laugh. - Oh yeah, let's say I'm forgetting that. - That was a no for me but. - Through it on the ground. That is it. is my all time favorite. - I love it. - Like if I want to get somebody addicted to the lonely island, that's what I play the most. - Yeah, it's actually the first thing you play, someone. - Yeah. ♪ At the farmer's market with my so-called girlfriend ♪ ♪ She hands me her cell phone ♪ ♪ Says it's my dad ♪ ♪ Man, this ain't my dad ♪ ♪ This is a cell phone ♪ ♪ I threw it on the ground ♪ ♪ But you think I'm stupid ♪ ♪ I'm not a part of your sister ♪ ♪ My dad's not a phone, dude ♪ - I mean, and you've talked about it on the show, but it's every kid's favorite song. We have more broken toys because of throwing it on the ground. - Oh, I'm about to say, what's the kid effect on throwing it on the ground? - Oh, yeah. - Whoa! - That's so great. I haven't even, you know, it's so funny. I've haven't 'cause I've played my kids like, I'm on a boat and Captain Jack Sparrow because of just like them liking boats in those movies. But you're right, threw it on the ground. I can't believe I haven't done it yet. - And we also, by the way, I let my kids listen to your podcast episode about threw it on the ground. - Oh, great. - And now the alternate lyric is like, they're like, it should have been that. - Oh, my God. - But more of a little story is like-- - Your kids really know this. - Oh, yeah. - Don't let them taser your butt hole. - Oh, my God. - More nerds. - How old are your kids, Lynn? - They are seven and 11. And I know, don't write me letters. I know. - No, that's too young. That's fine. - Look, they're already your kids. Like, they're gonna, like, come on. It's great. And I will say, again, it's like, wait a minute, we're gonna get to it. A little bit like Andy's face during a boiled goose. Like, Andy's face is in this. I've just never get tired of it. - By the way, Andy's character is another person that I'm very familiar with in terms of the rostrants of my life. - Yeah. - Yeah, this is a very specific guy. - That guy. - The narrator. - He wants to have a cypher. - Yeah, yes. - Yes. He likes conscious rap, but he's not very bright. - He wants to spit for us very exactly. (laughing) - And I was like, like, rostrant felt more, while it was there, I feel like they have the most specific observation on it. It felt way more familiar to me than this guy, who I feel like less people had ever shown you this guy. And the minute you see him and through it on the ground, you realize you do know a dude like that. But they were the first, I feel like, really good comedy take on that kind of guy. - Yeah, every guy I've ever seen my first year opening for the Beastie Boys on tour was this guy. (laughing) Just disillusion with the system. - Yeah, my dad's not a phone. - But my favorite part is still when a what's her name sort of eyes him. - Oh, Jenny Slate. - Yeah, Jenny Slate. I fell in love with Jenny Slate. Just for that one, that, ooh, mother fuck life. Just perfect. That and the table ground interruption. SNL has taught me the power of timing. - Yeah. - As far as, like, repetition. - Oh, right. - Yeah. - To cut to the joke, so. Always wonder, was there another setup punchline before? - Yeah, it escalates perfectly, like, through on the ground the first two times. Happy birthday to the ground. And then just, (laughing) - Yes, this is my whole time favorite. And they did never, ever let anybody get ahead of them. - Yeah. - That would be, they would be so insulted with their own work if people got ahead of them. - And most importantly, two of my snare drums and claps are the drums for this song. - Get out. - And that's when the lonely island guys thought that I was a serial killer that I knew the texture and the tones of my own hands. - So where did they get it and how did you know his ears? - Um, you know, I'm a drummer and kind of in hip-hop, the best, the best crumbs you could leave on the floor are any open snares, any open kick drum. So I'm notorious for not really giving much to hip-hop fans. - Yo, how come you never let a drum break on your album? - I'm famous for that. However, when I worked on the late D'Angelo's Voodoo album, there's a song called Chicken Greece and that snare drum from Chicken Greece was the snare sound of Amiche 50 cent era, G unit, Rockefeller jeans, Sean John, like from 2001, a very specific, you know, when T-shirts were like 8x and people that should be wearing size 32 jeans are wearing like baggy, you know, size 48, but the clap from that song has fed, like if I were litigious, I could have made it pretty penny off of just nabbing people with a radar gun for stealing that snare drum. - So. - Oh my God. - I hope we can isolate it and-- - I was proud though. I mean, that's one of my-- - I hope no for our listeners, we would be great if we could take the Chicken Greece sample. - I'll give it to you. - All right, great. - Play it over later quads. (laughing) - Yeah, like your quads and then we'll hear it. - Or later quads, we're gonna hear the snare. (laughing) - Great. - All right, fantastic. Now we're gonna slow down a little bit, not slow down. It's Brenda and Sean, which was Drew Barrymore and Fred as magicians. Another one without Andy. - That was a no. - Yeah. - It's a no. Firelight and the Twilight parody with Taylor Swift. - They all look very beautiful in the fight. I can start makeup, but it's a no. - It's quite searing for the makeup department, for Luis Ocarian and nobody decided to make a press. - Your work has not gone unnoticed. - Get out is, you know, it's not the most memorable. That's the one where they keep Fred keeps walking in on Andy and the bathroom. - On the toilet. - It's a great like one joke where they heighten it really well. I'd never get tired of watching it, but I think it's probably a no. - Or where he's on the toilet. - Yeah. - I like that. - I like thinking about him filming outside 30 rock on that toilet and in the elevator at 30. Like, I enjoyed imagining how they made it more than I enjoyed watching it. - Yes. - And it is like, the mirror with a LA page is the other one where Andy gets walked in. And like, I think Andy, like, loves. Like, there's something very, I think it probably comes from Andy's deep seated fear. It's gonna happen in real life of somebody walking in on the wall, he's sitting on the toilet. - All right, so this is not, was not as resounding for our audience as it is for me because this is my favorite of all time, which is two worlds collide. That's criteria, baby. - Yeah. - Hangin' like my nuts. (laughs) ♪ I don't know ♪ ♪ We hooked up in the studio to make this song ♪ ♪ But as usual, will we end in a (beep) ♪ No doubt ♪ ♪ Clap back to when I first met Reeva ♪ ♪ Seat, con, dressin' room, puffin' on Chiba ♪ ♪ Said I was a fan ♪ ♪ She said, "Ruby, drop to denim skirt" ♪ ♪ And said, "Hop to it!" ♪ ♪ They'd live all night ♪ ♪ More like with (beep) ♪ Kids bangin' on the torts, runnin' into rum ♪ ♪ But the monographs can wait 'cause this is way too strong ♪ ♪ I can't leave it alone, because hope is the problem ♪ - Okay, let me tell you something. I got denied (laughs) I got denied permission to make that Reeva's walk on song. (laughs) - That's a nice show. - Effet's a nice show (laughs) about four weeks, five weeks ago. - Who denied? Was it from Team Reeva? - I just wanna talk. - No, no, it wasn't that, but it's also, you know, let's just say that in my 16, 17 year history of being at the show, my walk on song choices, sometimes range from decups, sometimes as a total victory, I will get a good snark in there, and you won't know it, but we got busted a few times for ruffling some feathers, mainly from publicists that'll be like, "Why'd they choose that song?" So that bit to me is one of the smartest, funniest bits ever, so. - It's the best. - I mean, the escalation is so funny, 'cause it also starts with a trope, it starts with like these two worlds, these two different artists, and then escalates to this really specific thing of like, he's in love with this man who found a wig, and he does not care, he's in love. - For he doesn't know. - Also, the man with the wig is not trying to fool him anymore. Like, my favorite line is your friends are right. - Oh, your friends are smart. Your friends are smart, exactly. Wait, do you specifically remember like, when jokes are super visual and rely on quick punchlines and all those things, how is it presented in the room? Is it presented in the room in front of the entire cast? - No, like, that was the magic of these guys. It was very rare for you to have any sense. Like, if you were lucky enough to walk in, while they were working on it on like a Tuesday night, but they was, you know, there were a lot of times they weren't even, they hadn't even cracked it by Tuesday night. - That's wild. - Oh, so they don't have to clear it ahead of time? - No, they had, they had their own little fiefdom inside. - They really were. - That's a no. - They got an early fiefdom based on, you know, they earned it with-- - I like laser cats inside the criteria. - Must be nice. - Okay. - But again, the first, you know, for the second one they did was Lazy Sunday, so there was no reason to think they had to have a check on what they were doing. And it was really nice listening to them talk about how hard Lauren laughed at that one, because, you know, Keenan wasn't-- - He laughed? - Lauren loved this one. Lauren loves Keenan. He also loves Andy, but there was something too about, you know, obviously they'd established themselves as being, you know, a dick in a box dirty, right? Like they're gonna be, you know, without cursing, they're gonna be, and so this one, the speed in which this is like, oh fuck, like it's so audacious in a way that delights me to this day. - Yeah, classic. - Well, I think it's criteria. - It's criteria. - Yeah, it's criteria. - And then I mean, talk about an incredible back-to-back weeks here, then Shairani. - Shairani. Ah, okay, you know it's weird. It has to be criterion, however, when criterion is done, - Yes. - You're all about ranking inside of criterion. - But here's the thing though. When I watch SiRani, I have to watch it with the audience laughing. - I got that. - I watched it without the audience laughing. And I was like, all right, my patience is better. Like, okay, I get the point, but-- - Interesting. - So when this is presented on criterion, it has to have the audience laughter with it. - Which is a really, we've never made that distinction, but that makes a lot of sense when you're talking about SiRani. - Yeah. ♪ In the tree of knowledge it broke ♪ ♪ 'Cause we plans to see ♪ ♪ You're the teachers of this ♪ ♪ So we get just what you need ♪ ♪ SiRani ♪ ♪ Yeah, SiRani ♪ (audience laughing) ♪ Speak up ♪ (audience laughing) ♪ SiRani, speak up ♪ (upbeat music) (audience laughing) ♪ Okay, I'll take it from here ♪ (audience laughing) - I just think her ad-libs are so funny. - Oh, they're very Rihanna-ish. - Yeah. - Yeah, I mean, that's the thing is like, if SiRani weren't on this song, this would probably chart as a Rihanna song. Like, like, musically, it's just successful in the Rihanna verse. Like, it sounds like an early ought's Rihanna too. And, like, you could put this next to, you know, live your life or whatever. Like, it's just like, it's a great beat. And then, just the fact that it's like every, you know, mom encouraging their shy child. - Yeah. - Speak up. - This also makes me kind of sad that "Saxman" really wasn't brought to the light because as a musician, especially a musician, that's always yelling, "Yo, give me a solo, you know, "I will say, "Saxman" is probably the roots inside joke. - Right. - So I'm known for a last minute, 11th hour, like, I have two microphones. So if something will happen, I'll just say, "Kirk, give me 32 bars real quick. "Good, solo." And he'll be deer in headlights. And then, don't let Tariq just be like, kick his hat's mat, like, literally, it will just become its own inside joke with the 11 of us on stage while the flustered, soloist is trying to get it together. - But it makes me happy that, like, "Saxman." I mean, I think the absolutely pinnacle for "Saxman" is that it is the inside joke for the roots. Like, this is perfect landing spot there. - Oh my God. - Don't let someone mess up or get shy on a microphone. I will be for, like, an hour. (laughing) And Jack Black is the perfect person for "Saxman" as well. - Yes, I love "Saxman" but, like, "Saxman" crawled so that "Saxman" could run. - Also a thing that helps "Saxman" and I said it when we did this episode, and I will say it again, I truly think it might be the most beautiful person has ever looked on camera. (laughing) I mean, genuinely. - Agreed. - "Tizzle Whizzle" show, that's the James Franco, kids in pajamas, who all end up-- - Yeah, no, you know where to go in from "Jump." That's a no. - That's a no? - Yeah, there was some, there were some Kim's love for that from the crowd, but I think, I think you could argue. Booty call with Alicia Keys. - Oh, I didn't see that one. - It was cool. - Yeah. - She's great. You're super happy to see the two of them together. It more than served its purpose that week. But I will say, like, even when I was like, oh, I have no memory of this, which I think is sometimes when you know it's not criterion. - But again, when you guys did a thorough review of it, like, it made me almost reconsider again, because I know the bassist is based on the monologue she does at the end of "You Don't Know My Name," where she does her sexy, you know, whatever her seductive monologue thing is. And of course, Sanberg is the opposite of it. Like, I like it. I don't know. See, you might need another. - Yeah. Where would it land? - So this is a no for you, Lynn? - This is no for me. - Oh, damn it. Okay, yes. Yeah, you got to be bold. - It had some, it had some Kim's love, but it doesn't quite feel like Kim's, 'cause it's not like. - Yeah, you got it. - It's more like everybody's real, the writing is good, the performance is good, and it just doesn't feel like. - You're right. - I don't know. - Okay. - Then "Lazercats 5," which is Garnie. I mean, we've talked about "Lazercats." This one has a ton of good jokes. - Yes. - I'm still voting for, like, you know, it's like the Jacques Tati box set in Criterion Collection is "Lazercats." - Yep. - The Curse, Sergio, John Hamm. - I mean, if they hadn't broken the line, this would have been funny. - It's so hard breaking. - That's gonna cost a Criterion. - Well, I think if it gets in Criterion, Keve is just gonna cancel his Criterion fucking membership. - No, I think actually the breaking the line makes it Kim's video, 'cause it makes an art house movie. - Yeah. - They broke on this? - They know they broke the line. A Keve wasn't there, so key to this day feels like the filmmaking is shoddy. - Got it, okay. - Yeah, it's one of Keve's peeves. - It's Keve's peeve. Personally, for me, it's like on the non-musical digital shorts. This is bad as good as it gets. I know I'm probably forgetting something, but oh, like, dear sister and the Curse are kind of my two favorite, not song-based. - I consider dear sister a song. - That's true, that has, right, that has, this has, you know. - I watch this so many times that anytime I'm on social media, like, it tries to sell me a Sergio, like, mug off Etsy. - So it's your, it's Criterion for you. - Yeah, it's telling me Sergio merch, because I watch. - Was the history of this based on the guy, you know the guy that used to come into public places and start playing the sax intro to careless whisper by when? - Is it, like, solo from Lost Boys or something, from some 80s movie? - There's a band, there's a music scene in Lost Boys where there's a band playing and they cut to this guy, really jamming on the sax with, like, his shirt off. And they stay, they just kind of linger on it too long. And I guess this is something that your man had observed years ago and was the inspiration for this guy. - 'Cause do you guys remember the careless whisper guy where he would go, he would go into a mall, (imitating sounds) and they'd kick 'em out the mall and then he went to a church. (imitating sounds) - What was this? What was this awesome guy doing? - He was the second viral internet guy that we had sit in with the roots. The first guy was, if you remember the guy that had the golden voice, he sounded like that. - Right, the golden voice guy was the first, like, he would just talk while the roots played, that was sitting in, back in 2009. (laughing) - Did you guys ever play with Taze On Day, Mr. Chocolate Rain himself? - We tried. - That's a missed opportunity. - Wait, how do you know his name, Lynn? - Oh, I went all the way down the rabbit hole to find out what Taze On Day was up to and told you to. - Oh my God, dude, that's scary. - That's the question, it takes many forms. - Yeah. - Anyway, so we found the guy that was causing a ruckus. He would just, just like John Hamms character, with no shirt, with just suspenders on, would just run into, like, airplanes, mid-flight. - What do you mean, what do you mean? - Until he gets kicked out or arrested. And so, on his way to the tonight show, he actually got arrested for doing the airport. - He couldn't even wait until he got to the tonight show. - No. - Need to do in the airport. - No, he had to do it, so. - No, so it was maybe a problem. - Yeah, but I was wondering if this was based on that guy. - No, this was, I'm starting to think maybe. Well, no, he seems like he predated this one. - Got it, okay. - Okay. - Oh, wait, where did you guys land? I didn't get you, where do you land? - I liked the curse. - Enough for me, right Taze On Day. - And I think it's Kim's video, like, it is a-- - All right, so Kim's-- - Oh, you're like, through on the ground, let me play you some Sergio. - Gotcha. - All right, I'll Kim's video it. - Okay. Criterion has to be three Michelin Star, five stars across the board. - Yeah, I think there's a pop culture element to it. - Got it, okay. - Then we got Flags of the World. - That's just like-- - That's at the top of my Kim's video list. - Yeah, it's real Kim's. - Just for the hottie and the naughty flag. - Yes, yep. - Zach drops by the set. That's Zach Alphanakis just sort of walking in the frame. - Oh, where he interrupted a long, long order. - Yeah, I think that's Kim's. - I think it's Kim's too. - Yeah, it's got good Kim's. - Boombox, where do you guys land on Boombox? - Again, music always bumps it to the top for me. This is such a beautiful, like that surprise of the third boiled goose makes me laugh. So I know it's coming. And I still laugh every time, but I'll guess. It gets me every time. It's in the Criterion for me. ♪ Now my Boombox and play this song ♪ ♪ The music washed away of the hay ♪ ♪ And society started fancy ♪ ♪ Every demographic was represented ♪ ♪ It was a rainbow coalition of dancing ♪ ♪ Whoa ♪ ♪ Everyone was wearing fingerless gloves ♪ ♪ Whoa ♪ ♪ The soft bench got to do in the bartender ♪ - It's also like the beginning of them, like working with the strokes. And that's a whole, like, fruitful partnership on its own. - It's, yeah, it's Julian Casablancaz and Andy. I needed to, it was not Criterion for me, but the rewatch has sort of pushed me more to that. - You saw a Spanish guy doing the bartman? - That was kind of, that wasn't tipping point for me. - There's a point where Fred Armason's just in, just to hear Julian, like the coolest voice in rock music being like, ♪ As Oz band his guy do ♪ than the bark man. It's like a sword in sea. And by the way that is, I think when you're Julian and you agree to do a lonely eye on the digital short, you're hoping they're going to give you that kind of gold, right? Yeah, I guess so. You're like, I'm bringing the voice, try to write something for me I'd never say, and that certainly is that. The other man is Ryan Philippi, and that's Andy Plain sort of like a weird Swedish guy. I mean, I put it in Kim's just because the endonio Sam Derris voice, which is a term I'm coining that no one's going to ever hear. I like it. And donio Sam Derris. Oh my god. It's really good. Yeah, that's the portmanteau invented for this guy. They got this podcast exists, Lynn, because I don't think you'd get a lot of traction on that outside of it. You know, and donio Sam Derris, yeah, it's Kim's for me, but I also know it's not one of the more memorable to the world. It's got some nice Kim's back. And then a gallery sit-a-bay and cherry battle was long swammy did, which uses the through it on the ground camera for the very slow motion spitting cherries back and forth. That's a no. Yeah, this was a no for me, although they're both adorable. It's sort of just one move. They're fun, nice people to watch. Yes. And I like to bat with the end, but it's a no for me. So welcome to Criterion. Ross Trent, just in my pants, I'm on a boat, like a boss, mother lover, through it on the ground, two worlds collide, shy Ronnie and boom box, some. Oh, the doogie house or not make the cut? I mean, I just keep looking at it. You guys both said, yes, only 349 people, like less than 10% of our listeners. All right. Gen Z, you kick to doogie out the top spot. Come on. Well, I'll look. I'll bring it to the guy. I think it's two out of, if two out of three, we have our listener voters. We have our expert panel, which is you guys. And then we have the actual lonely island. So if two out of three, but I bet, I bet lonely island is also not going to push for doogie to make it a gen Z younger listeners. Can I make my play? Imagine Addison Ray, 20 years from now, so since our lives, and she sits at the piano and she plays Diet Pepsi, and the whole band joins in. Yeah. And it's like, it takes you back to you. And it's here. And then a cheer goes down. I'm trying to paint the picture for you for how this lands on the geriatric millennials. That was beautiful. And that was poetic. I don't know. If you're not, you guys, I know this is in a video podcast. Quest is crying so hard right now. And I was like, wow, Lynne, you're the king of explaining stuff. You were just crying at the emotion. You were just crying that you're never going to be able to explain stuff as well as Lynne. We also, what's the deal with laser cats? I believe laser cats should be in criterion. Is it's own box set inside? Yeah, again, I know Jake Tapper has real, has a real stick up as you know what about this. But yeah, they're all in. Okay. He's going to draw us all his cubes. If you went and bought like a criterion collection of Lonely Eye and then you got home and you realize there were no laser cats in there, you'd be furious. And if there were only three in there of the seven, you'd also be furious because you want to watch anybody who watches the second disc. It's the second disc. Criterion. Criterion's not going to do two of the Star Wars movies. You know, if you buy the D.A. Pennabaker making of company as a supplemental material, you get co-op the musical. You do get co-op. You do. So that's what it is. Yeah. You know, this is curated or whatnot, but I also believe that eventually one day, I want to complete anthology of the Lonely Island. Yeah. Complete anthology. Like the hits and the misses. Here's an example. I know that you guys voted thumbs down for what's the apartment that they didn't have anything that week. Oh, yeah. Take that song. Yeah. Take a seat. To me. Please do not defend Dacker Yerl. Dude, I don't think something, I don't think something has to be perfect. I don't think it has to be executed perfectly for it to fit the criteria because the Dackery girl, to me, is what the Lonely Islands about. Hits and misses. 100%. Yes. This is my example. This is my ascentery example. Explain it to me. James Brown, James Brown in my opinion, his canon falls either under two things, either his creations will change your life because they're so revolutionary as a pioneer in something you've never heard of before, idea wise, or the idea is so horrible that it's amazing. Like showgirls, like, you know, when something's so bad that you love it, yeah. And to me, I feel like, I don't know, I believe that Dackery girl is, you know, it would have played well at Andy Warhol's factory, right? Yeah. Well, I will say what I like about and what's so fun to go through is like realizing that the same guys who can come up with, let's say, I'm on a boat, like a few weeks later or a few weeks in the future, like the best they can do under that time constraint is Dackery girl. I think it's a really nice thing to show young people who are trying to get into being creative, which is like, oh, man, it doesn't. This is a weekly deadline looks like. Yeah. And by the way, but the great thing about Dackery girls, it's like, there's still like four, five really fun things in it that only those guys have come up with. So it's not a complete failure or anything. But I like showing the gaps. Okay. Yeah. But I believe that Dackery girl deserves, like you have to show the totality of, well, we, guess what? I'm going to create a fourth category called Questlove and only Questlove. It's Questlove. It's Questlove's pick to click. Sorry. Yes. Just one video, one video only. And Tudor, we can, you can have Tudor for that too. No, I'll say Dackery girl. I want to redo, man. I want to redo. Oh, yeah. No, it's they did you so dirty. I can't believe they used your, your snare and then the best they would offer you as a part was. Yeah. All right. So I think they did get a little hotter in their next 36 digital shorts. They went from six to what looks like nine. I feel satisfied. And there's some crazy weekly runs inside of that too. Yeah. It really is. They're the best in the world. This has been fantastic, you guys. I can't believe you made time for us. What an honor. Dreams come true. And I appreciate you letting me get on your space, Lynne, because I know with you alone, this episode would have went way further. No, listen. If you were with, if you were with the other three, but then we would not have had a passionate defensive Dackery girl, and where would we be? Exactly. Where we would have been exactly where everyone else is. All right, you guys, so you're now commissioned officers in Quaid Army, a couple of lieutenants. Let's see if, let's see if, how's your makes it? Hit us in the tinnitus if you have questions, comments, consider this. And very excited that Quest will allow us in perpetuity to use his, his snare. I will. I will. I will. And so in that place, I would just like to say, I love you guys. I love you guys. I love you guys, too. Love you. And do you want it? Lynn, why don't you say goodbye? Later Arnold.