The 2010 Mega-Movie Re-Draft

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We've done this draft before. We have done this draft. Just us? Just the three of us. Yeah. So it's the three of us. It's the first one. It was the first ever draft, which was conceived, created, and executed amidst the COVID-19 pandemic, and the three of us did a very good job. That's a very weird podcast when you go back and listen, because we're like, oh, hey, good choice. Nice job. Terrific job by you. I thought the drafts were where our sense of hostility. No, that was Deacon's Hall of Fame. Oh, okay. But then we were banished to our separate screens for the COVID-19 pandemic, and we were kind to each other for like three to four weeks. Three to four months, and then you drafted Iron Man 3, and the gloves came off. That's true. Every June, we bring together a sacred quartet of contributors to the draft. This is the third consecutive June. I'm really happy Van Lathan is here. Yeah. Mallory Rubin is here. Joanna Robinson is here. Rob Mahoney is here. Four of the most elite podcasters that work at The Ringer in the office today. And 2010, you guys were not a part of 2010. Rob, why don't we start with you? Young buck that you are. 2010, what was going on? What was cooking for you? Who were you? I was in college. Okay. I was playing a lot of basketball. I was blogging a lot of basketball. And I was going to see a lot of these movies at an Austin-based movie theater chain that we no longer talk about. Because we were horns up. I mean, we're always horns up. Okay, so you were an Alamo attendee on the reg. Back when that used to be an okay thing. Back when that was something I was proud of. You were basket blogging in college? Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's how you do it. What was the. On your parents' dime while they're paying for school. Parlay it into a blogging job post-graduation. Was that Mavs and stuff? Like general NBA back then? Yeah. It was kind of all over the place. I was a junior in college with league pass. That was a normal thing to do. How much did it cost then? Honestly, a reasonable amount. Okay. I think it was like bucks or something. It was like $70, $80. Yeah. That's good. That's very affordable. Joanna, 2010, what was cooking with you? I was living in San Francisco, looking at the list of movies that I was watching. The movies that we have here today, I think I was deep in my arthouse cinema only phase. So, I had to catch up on some of these big blockbusters we're here to talk about today. A real franchise year that I was not involved in in 2010. Interesting. And look at how the world turned on you. Yeah. Or turned you into a franchise queen. Yeah. You hate art now. Yeah. I do hate art. Van, 2010. Unemployed. I had been in Los Angeles. I got to LA in 2006. I worked at this place for a couple of years, a couple of three years, or something like that. And then it went under. And that was it. And so, then I got on unemployment. This was during the times of the financial crisis. And we were all just riding out. I, too, was playing a lot of basketball. Dominating. What's the scout? What were you doing? Everything. Yeah? Inside, outside. Three-five? Three-level score. Okay. Like, three-level score. But, like, legitimately, we were hooping all day long. Yeah. Against first graders, second graders, and third graders. Third graders? Against whoever wanted it. Seventy-five and up. Seventy-five and up. Retirees. I was busting anybody's ass that was out there. And then, the next year was the year my career was essentially started. I go to TMZ the next year. But, at that point, unemployed, seeing all of these movies. It's like a prequel. At the Arclight. Yeah. This is the year. 2009, 2010 is the year that I fall in love with the Arclight. Because I start going to a lot of movies at the Arclight. Walking days. Six years gone, we are from the Arclight. The Arclight. Really painful. Inexplicable. And you guys just never got to be a part of that culture. I saw some things at the Cinerama Dome in my time. I heard tell. You know, I was in a cave. My elders were telling me about it. The stories. The legends. Okay, Mel. 2010. I was living in New York City. I was editing college football at Sports Illustrated. And I was seeing movies in the city. You know, you would, like, live in New York. You'd go to your job during the day. Then, you'd go to a bar or a movie. After work. It was nice. Fun to live in the city for those five years. What movie theaters were you frequenting? So, the Time and Life building. You know, Midtown Manhattan. So, various locations. Either, like, Lincoln Square, Times Square. Not ideal. I was going to say AMC Times Square. Yeah, convenient. Certainly. Battery Park Girl? I moved to Battery Park City later. Yeah. I don't think Battery Park Girl, like. Yeah. Thanks for clarifying. You're the lady of the night. Yeah. But I lived in Hell's Kitchen. I lived in Hell's Kitchen at that point. So, I was, like, walking to work. That was just sort of the general vicinity. But, you know. Like a young Matt Murdock. Yeah, Matt Murdock. Exactly. Fighting crime at night. Yeah. Putting on my athleisure and going out to fight crime. Daredevil. I was going to say Deadpool. I did not have a nice brick loft apartment. Is it, like, member? It's not close. I didn't have them there to be like, that's Daredevil, you know? You're going to the cinema regularly. Yeah. Adam and I were seeing movies at this point. And we were watching a lot of movies at home. And we would go to the movies. Because we've been, you know, together for an eternity. Because we're fucking ancient. So. Oh, wow. Imagine how I feel. CR. Well, this is hard. Because I don't want to contradict what I said on the first one. You know? Oh, interesting. We have evidence. You're trying to go for consistency and continuity? I'll just say two truths and a lie. Okay. Smart. I worked at an advertising agency as a copywriter. I was still smoking. Those, I think, are truths. And I saw Tron Legacy in the theaters. I will tell you a large portion of that podcast, which I believe in total is like an hour and 14 minutes. And I'd say 30 of those minutes are you shitting on Tron Legacy. Was it really? I've grown to be. I have a lot more affection for it. By the way, can I just say, in the interest of like Mallory, competitive drafter, on Friday. Very chill today. On Friday, we said no prep. Well, I made my spreadsheet, but I didn't realize. You listened? You listened to the other episode? Why wouldn't you listen to the other episode? Of course. You all listened to the other episode. She told me. It's like you've revealed your draft. No, no, no. What I said was I'm not going to be able to revisit all the films like I typically like to do. Like it was a good. Rob and I were talking about this earlier. It's a great pleasure in 99 and 2000 to just say, you don't need the excuse to pop on Almost Famous, but if you have one, you're not going to pass on it. If you have an excuse to watch Ripley, you're going to do it. This year, it was a little challenging to do that, but I couldn't miss the opportunity to listen to the first draft you ever did. The podcast that birthed one of the defining series here at The Ringer. Come on. Wow. Also, it was structured completely differently. Like the drafts were set. The rounds were set. It was like round one, drama. It was very different. Oh, yeah. That is true. And we were all just like, great job, Amanda. Yeah. I don't remember any of it. I don't remember what I picked. I didn't go and look back. I'm happy to recount that. No, no, don't. Don't do it now. I want to do it at the end. So make sure it's at the bottom. It's at the bottom. Okay, I won't scroll. Because I'm curious how much I've changed and how much I've stayed the same. Well, you're always changing. That's actually why we've all gathered here. This is an intervention. You've seen him in the intervention seat, actually. Amanda, it's very hard for me to tell you this. Chris, you and I, we spent a lot of time together in 2010. We were really hanging pretty tough back then. Is this the year we met? 2011 was the year we met. 2011 is when we meet outside the. Well, I met Zach, my husband, outside of the Lincoln Square. AMC, speaking of. And then you guys at The Wooly? Is that right? No, I thought it was after The Avengers. No, that's the first movie that we saw. And that's where I met Andy Greenwald. But I knew you before that. Y'all been fucking with each other. Y'all all have been friends this long? Yeah, but. I know you and him, but like. Avengers is 2012. Right, right. I accompanied Zach to a Christmas party that she was at where he was like, I'm going to meet this girl and man. Yeah, at Botanica. It was the after party of the New York magazine. I was like, good luck with that. Look at us now. Look at everyone now. Getting old. Our minds are deteriorating. So we didn't know each other in 2010. Okay. You think we would have gotten along? I don't know. Why start now? In 2010, I was working at emusic.com, which was a digital music retailer. It was an attempted iTunes competitor. - Interesting. the scuttlebutt at emusic when i was working there um as a merchandising manager which was basically an editorial job just basically like writing reviews and putting together exciting collections of potential albums you could spend your money on was there's this company coming that is currently operating in europe called spotify and we are fucked that was the vibe when i was working at emusic because as soon as spotify comes to america it's curtains for emusic and everyone who was saying that was 100 right and here we are in spotify own studio in 2026 yeah i'm so cynical listen to you tell the story of the emerging behemoth spotify just feels it feels like you just did a little commercial there well you know i guess at least we get to be together when i say 2010 movies what springs to mind i mean i picked this year back then when we did it in 2020 just because it was 10 years later that was the only reason that we started there we were like we didn't have a lot of money we didn't have a lot of money we didn't have a lot of money enough time to look back on this period of film and see what it means not because it was a particularly great year though it did have a couple of favorites from the show and some interesting movies to pull apart but i don't what what do you think when you look at it rob i think it's big like before times energy you know i think the easy demarcation point is like the marvel machine is not up and running yet but also fast five hasn't happened jurassic world hasn't happened yet like all all the things that are going to take up all the oxygen in the room uh are just not existent at this point so there's a lot of stuff i don't know that it's all good so you're saying it's a great time for little movies like toy story 3 iron man 2 but iron man 2 is not harry potter and the deathly hallows oh dude we were going crazy there on midnight at midnight iron man 2 we were i saw iron man i was there but it's not the same the marvel machine was in effect because what i needed is premium projection shut up actually shout out cobble hill cinemas i love it forever um well you chuckled because you feel like we were already in slop town no i mean he said the marvel machine wasn't in effect then mallory and i just had like a we just said boyd yeah like uh you know mickey rourke and iron man 2 mentally to each other via telepathic link then we laughed into the microphones out loud we did do that um it's just yeah it's it's franchise city here in 2010 and and actually some of the worst i think that franchise cinema has to offer so we're gonna be celebrating that there's a lot of other movies it was an odd year there's a lot of other it is an odd year it was fantastic movies but i think the top i would not say these stand the test of time it was odd year also because it was like it's like kind of transitional time like there are new people barking up the tree like i was all about nolan at this point i thought nolan was the greatest fucking guy like did he have a movie this year yeah like yeah i was about to say i'm on the wrong year but like i just also remember having hopes for films and then just being dramatically let down by some of the people that were in it and i was like oh my god i'm gonna be like oh my god by some of the like the like watching tim burton make an uninteresting movie was like crazy to me with with that many resources and stuff like that yeah did movie twitter exist back at this point were you on it i was on twitter yeah twitter was good back joined twitter in 2009 and that's when you could frequently send out a tweet that was just like i just had a burrito shit was fire that was considered it was like good job you know that retweet yeah thank you yeah why don't you take it back banging that like button uh you want you want to go back to that i want you to take it yeah that's what he's doing on threads i'm not really on threads anymore no i i don't think we can ever go back unfortunately because immediately when you do that it's just like aicr in a nazi costume like saluting a bag of cheese like all the replies are like ai nazi cr is like a real speed skating hitler sort of like character just think of that ai nazi you in a nazi costume saluting a bag of cheese you have any big 2010 thoughts movie wise amanda oh me um you know not off the top of my head and i don't want to spoil my draft prep but when i was trying to you know the essential what will your first pick be if you get the first pick what are you going to do one movie i remembered as a 2010 movie and then i read the list and i was like oh actually probably i should choose this other one uh so it doesn't stand out as like a hallowed year where i was like going to the cinema 2009 honestly is a lot more memorable i remember the specific places and the specific theaters where i saw all of these movies and i think there was just a a better mix of you know non-franchise stuff i mean that's inglorious bastards that's you're a big avatar head so well i remember i went to see of course at uh the now departed brooklyn heights uh you know the court street was that a regal yeah i'll never forget where i saw avatar amc lincoln square yeah imax screen and i'm just like one of the greatest movie theater experience ever i loved it you guys never seen it you can copy me i definitely didn't see it in a theater i saw it's not like 20 minutes if i'm on a plane yeah that sounds right that's well that's i think that's actually useful to this conversation because you know avatar made a shitload of money in 2010 yeah you know it was like it was such a carryover i think i might have seen it like a blizzard hit in january and i was like okay i guess i'll go like this on like a day two yeah yeah we're always even still in theaters but so i guess there's not a defining narrative of 2010 except for the oscars narrative of they picked the wrong one yeah um you've got a couple things kind of winding down exactly things kind of like trying to squeeze out some some life you know you got shrek 4 and toy story 3 i just remember this harry potter's near the end more than any movie i mean i had one of my like favorite movie going experiences of my life was going to see inception with zach oh yeah at this year prospect parkland right we both walked out we're like what can we do with our minds that we're not doing i think you're thinking of limitless but uh number 16 the uh the thing i remember when i went through this list was not only just the movies that came out but the specificity of how i was receiving from them and i was like oh my god i'm gonna be like oh my god i'm gonna be like oh my which was i think almost entirely as a theater going experience so uh the streaming services had yet to really ramp up yet you could get the red letter netflix movies but you had to be an active participant in like getting and sending them back and everything um i think i had like an ingmar bergman movie for three years i was gonna say there are two movies on this list that i definitely had those envelopes for like six months yeah no um and then you know i just home it was not a reality for me yet so it was really like my film going experience was all theater which is kind of an interesting little snapshot until the moment before yeah any other stray thoughts before we describe our categories and get a draft order i think the oscar note that amanda already made obviously feels like very present in the year but i am curious to see if in the flow of the draft in part just because there are so many picks it's seven drafters and seven rounds if we'll be in a position where like a lot of the films that were like you fucked social network how dare you at the time are actually now in a like this movie's actually pretty good so you're just trying to lay the groundwork for when it's always a thought for me yeah one of my favorite ringer memories genuinely i did this air i don't even know probably when we were first doing highest take at sunset gower and we did a king speech episode and i just remember you looking at me across the table in uh the podcast studio one in the courtyard and saying you can't do that you can't do that you can't do that you can't do that you can't say a movie's good just because you want to fuck the lead and nothing has changed all this time later you can make a whole career out of it you can become a beloved media figure doing just that it's still the best tom hooper movie i've ever seen a little the bars in hell amanda's first round there you go what's the soccer movie he made damned united yeah oh i like that movie you haven't seen les mis i haven't seen les mis no i'm still working up to it it's not good i feel like i need to get more cinema history under my belt i've always said that about arrive at the mountaintop pretty shallow when it comes to that yeah i'm just trying to catch up a little bit um side conversations okay so let's let's talk about the categories because they're a little bit unusual i've been trying to get expand you're iterating wow the parameters of of categorical strategy and it worked out really well in the star wars we have some exciting things we're testing for the fall you and i we do yeah we did no spoilers yes that's categorical strategy uh okay the first category to joanna's point and maybe to rob's as well is franchise film now this is a film that is part of a franchise it can be the first film it can be the last film but if it's part of a franchise it's eligible next category is original now this requires a lot of specificity this is not based on any pre-existing source material as in this is what rob got really annoying last time as in a novel as in a real life event okay as in uh another film and the television series this has to be from the right mind of the screen what happens if it's yeah for our listeners what happens if it is a movie based on a book but it's not part of a franchise where does it go in another somewhere else wild card not in either what if it takes inspiration that's what i was gonna ask how strict are we being about real life rules because like no there's no such thing as as an original idea, not really. Everything is influenced by the stimuli around it. all the time. Like if someone's like The house of our podcast host would say that. Wouldn't they? If someone's like my neighbor whispered to a mailman a tale of their nanny and it planted a seed that 30 years later I realized inspired this text like that's that's still original right? But if you're like these people are real people that's not eligible. Is that a fair distinction to draw? I think the best way to think about it is if this film can be nominated for best original screenplay. But a lot of the best original screenplay nominees wouldn't be eligible by your rule. With respect that's a terrible idea. Because they're not Because they make that shit up all the time. That's the most loosey-goosey category in history and it's just whatever. I guess that's probably Wait like King's Speech was best original screenplay but that's a that's based on a real person. Yeah that's not eligible. So by your rule like that's So that minus real events. Oh boy. Okay. Who sent you the most questions about the pod heading into it? Who do you think sent the most questions? You sent six questions just last night. I at least sent them to the group so that we could address them just once. So you were side-channeling with him? You're like always. Well I had as you as some of you will remember a very public scarring experience where Sean looked at me on the Star Wars draft and said maybe if you had asked me. And so I won't be making that mistake again. That's all. Is this when you tried to do like the Force was like a different character or something like that? She tried to draw she tried to say that R2-D2 was a was a Skywalker. She's only talked about it on like 20 podcasts. The midichlorians. Yeah. Where did you land on that? Stand by it. On what? I really like the midichlorian one. That one I would support. I didn't dig either one. R2-D2. You famously hate droids. I scooped you on the droid pic on our Star Wars draft. Because I was experiencing PTSD. I will say this though. I feel like you know what PTSD is. She did have Mal does have a constituency online of people who argue very very passionately that R2-D2 is a Skywalker. People were very upset about it. Is that where you got your pro-Bane army as well? The Bane lovers are everywhere. There are dozens of us. The third category is comedy that requires no further delineation. I don't know. What is funny? Yeah. I'll let you. I'll tell you what. In comedy I'm looking at a lot of movies that I thought were really funny at the time that I've really aged. What about the ending of Remember Me? Can that count as comedy? Please do not spoil my first reference. I think finding something funny doesn't make it a comedy. Unintentional comedy? Okay. Has everyone here seen Remember Me? Yeah. Only the end. I don't think I've seen it but I know the ending. Wow. I was there. That I saw at Prospect Park Cinemas. And did you laugh? When she writes September 11th 2001 on the chalkboard I like fell into the aisle. Yeah. I was like I cannot believe this is about to happen. And it had not been spoiled for me by whoever that critic was. What happened on that day? Well it happened in the reflection of somebody's eyes. Yeah. Okay. The next category is foreign language film or anime. Animated. Two of my faves. Okay. Now CR asked me this yesterday why foreign language film xenophobe that he is. No. I said it's such a robust category it could have been its own. International feature. This year for sure. You can treat it as such. I am. You can ignore animated. I will. Sean he definitely will. There are a few animated foreign language films that are eligible and I'll say I think to the voters at large I think you should be rewarded if you're able to fuse the category. Well you people somebody could take three animated films. in this draft. Someone could take four. I agree. Someone could take five. That was part of my thinking was there is an inordinate number of animated movies this year both at the top of the box office and further down the line. If I select the 2010 film Frozen will you allow us to pretend it's the end? Not that one. I tell you what I have some affection for that film Frozen they're talking about. Maybe it'll come up later. The next category is Oscar nominee which we often do. The next category is blockbuster. The threshold here is 125 million. Domestic. Domestic. Domestic. Not 100 million which is what we usually do around this time. The reason for that is the box office was very healthy in 2010 and there were a lot of movies that crossed the 125 threshold. And then the last category of course is wild card. So we've got 20 eligible movies in box office. We've got well over 50 in Oscars. Gotta do draft order. Everybody feeling good? Yeah. Let's do it. Any category questions before we get into that moment? No. Van doesn't give a shit. He doesn't care. Rob, you ready to steal people's hearts and dreams? I hope. Okay. You're developing quite a reputation around these parts. You have a letterbox list up here and you're already not following U.S. release. I'm sure that that's true. Okay. But that's important, right? It's U.S. release. U.S. release. U.S. non-festival release. U.S. non-festival. Yes. U.S. theatrical release. Theatrical festivals. Van did all the prep for this. Don't worry about it. The thing is Van doesn't do any prep and then he comes in and he kills. It's annoying. He dominates. I don't believe him. A genius who's also beloved. Deeply annoying. Tough to compete. Jack Sanders. Let's do it. We need a draft order. I'm scared about the order for this one. So, well, what do you want? I personally feel that having a top pick is important in this draft. You have the first overall pick. Wow! What just happened? It's like the worst possible. What are you doing? What are you doing? You're doing the cup. Legitimately the worst possible outcome. Okay. No, but then I have to wait so long for the second pick. The worst possible. That's actually. I am prepared to say, I think actually there's a case that the second pick is even better this draft. I'll explain why mom is ever been happy. Selecting second overall is Sean. Oh, good. Oh, wow. That's just what you want to enable these two people You don't want to take the movie that should go second. Third is Amanda Dobbins. But she does. Fourth is supervillain Rob Mahoney. Okay. Wow. Tough. Fifth, Van Lathan. Amanda and Rob are picking next to each other. That's always fun. Sixth, Christopher Ryan with Joe Last. Damn. Oh, Joe, you're on the turn. That's a strong pick. Don't. I had a great time on the turn last year. Okay. Paint your own picture. Wow. This is hysterical. Boy. I mean, you're in probably the spot you want at least. Is that fair to say? No. I'm in an incredible spot. All right. Somebody pick. Oh, are we starting? Yeah. Why would we not start? I don't know. You guys are hosting. You decide. Mallory. Yeah. Then me. Then me. Then Amanda. Then Rob. Then Van. Then CR. Then Joe. That's correct. Can we set the over-under on how many times Rob will piss Amanda off taking something that she wanted to take? Because that's a fun. She's in front of him. I'm in front of him, yeah. But then he's in front of you. She has all the control here. Well, it'll circle back. Yeah. You have the most control. I encourage everyone to make some fireworks today. You know? Honestly, I think that. You know what? You can get pretty weird in this show. I'm a wise one that said paint your own picture. Yeah. There you go. But also, I've done marginal prep, so. I also have already drafted. Do you feel like this is a no-brainer? This year. Yes, I do. Okay, go ahead. I thought that was a clear, clear top pick. All right, what is it, Mallory? The reason. Let me just say quickly, the reason I thought there was a case that two was better is because I do think original is the hardest category. Okay. And I think there's a clear. For me, it's the category that makes me most anxious. Like, that I'm gonna be in the sixth round and be like, did I fuck this up? Right? Now, obviously, it's a very deep field. It'll be fine. But. And that's also a movie I adore. I think there's just a clear number one. Go ahead. And it's the social network, so I will be selecting it. First overall, I will do that in. Ooh, technically, it's a franchise film now. I'm gonna do that in a. Ooh, you know what? I am gonna do it in franchise film. I'm gonna do it in franchise film. I think that's the correct category. Yep, I'm gonna do it in franchise film because it is eligible now, right? It is eligible. As a franchise film. So that's where I'll be taking social network first overall. Thanks, guys. Okay. I just want to say thank you. Thank you. And I want you to know that I've always thought you were wonderful. I'm already regretting the decision. What would you like to say about the social network? There was also no shaking of a hat. I left the Dungeons and Dragons die at the old place. That's on me. What with the goblet? Did you just write down on a piece of paper number one, We do have like 20 of those in here. I'll show you right here. This is what it is. It's like a little goblet. All the papers in here. I've seen a lot of hanging chads over there. Saltiness already. It's the best movie of the year and it's one of the five best movies of the century so far. Some would say number one. Yeah. Some. Some podcasts. Is anyone here in the room with us? Some would. Some other list might say somewhere between two to four. about other movies though. Yeah. You have the discussion. You always take the phone call. Except for the social reckoning which I don't want to take the meeting of. Four for 106 for Jalen Brunson. We'll take it. We'll take the phone call. The shirt is fantastic. It's obscured from view by the laptop but it's a wonderful shirt. Let everyone see that. It's beautiful. Beautiful shirt. Incredible Fincher movie. It's a great, it's Sorkin script. The performances are iconic. It's a movie in the moment that felt incredible, urgent, perfect, reflective of the time and that has only been truer as we've aged. So it's sensational. What's your, you watched the Social Network trailer. Social reckoning. Social reckoning. I did. I sure did. I booted that up on the 75 inch big screen. I have some concerns but I will be there day one. I will be there day one. Okay. I will be there. It's allegedly going to be at the Venice Film Festival so I'm going to be sitting it alone jet lagged in Venice. I don't, I don't, I'm going to, then I, some takes into the group chat? Yeah, no, then I'll do like a video blog of me dying and then, but of happiness or sadness. It could be great. It could be great. So you can start your alien pod now. That's right. Are you going to go on his alien pod? I thought it was a phenomenal idea. Yeah? Couldn't believe you. I feel like we could do a great job. If you want to do that, if you want to link up on that. Listen, let's just do it right now. I thought it was a great idea. So Disclosure, Disclosure Day happens and we see all of that footage. On the local news which you're definitely watching. If they take it, if they take it national and they don't put the NBC bug on it, right? They have that. And also, you know, they run it through the AI checker. So everything. That's right. Very lovely black woman kind of gets everybody into it. Right. Phenomenal. And then they have reception on their phone in the subway. And then they roll the real alien out. I almost lost it. That was where you lost it? I almost lost it at that point. Hold on. In New York, at least, they have tremendous reception. On the subway. I purchased a leather jacket. I thought it was less plausible that everybody could connect to live on the subway. My last time I was there. Okay. Shout out to them. I'm done. In some dark spots. So they're broadcasting the tapes. The old alien rolls out. Okay. And then you do what? So I have two choices. Yeah. I either go native. So we're not drafting 2010. I have two choices. I either go native or I pod. I was going to say, you come over to my house. I either got two choices. Either I go native. I do the whole thing because there's going to be a run on. Everything is going to shit. Highest learning. That's it. But so you are rededicating your life. I got it. I got it. I have to find the truth. Okay. But they've just told you the truth. I got more truth. Okay. All right. If you wanted the aliens to understand our society, which big pick movie draft would you have them listen to first? 99. I probably would just cut out the snatch portion. This is what it's like here. This is what we're like. Do you have any anecdotes in the pocket for 2009? In any pod? Yeah. It's a lot. Trying to think. Were any of these movies paired with blowjobs? I'll get back to you. We'll see how the draft goes. Can I say one more thing about the social network before we move on? Yeah. For anybody else, was the social network like a complete revelation in that you knew nothing about any of that shit? Like I legitimately. I don't even know if it was the social network or the social network. I don't even know if it was the social network. Get the fuck out of here, Sean. You're never going to say that you're letting this happen. Stop, don't fuck around, bro. An actual gap. I've been here for years. This is why we can't actually talk about these movies for as long as we are, because then we wind up saying things like Inception is a six out of ten. A six out of ten. Just torching your own draft in real time. Where's Charles? Isn't like 27 meters, 47 meters down a six out of ten? Oh my God. Holy shit. I have a very discreet point of view, you know? That's what makes this a magical podcast. I have one more question. Okay. Which is, in 2010, you see Inception. You say what? No. The second person interview style. How shocked would 2010 you be to know where Christopher Nolan stands in filmmaking right now? I already really, really liked him. This is the thing I've been trying to say since the Inception podcast. No, no. From Memento, which I saw in theaters and absolutely loved. And I've been saying this for years because people are just like anti-Nolan pilled because of the Inception pod that we did so many years ago. But I always loved Memento. I think Insomnia is not bad. I think it's pretty good. I thought, I'm not crazy about Batman Begins, but I loved The Dark Knight. Loved. What about The Prestige? And The Prestige I loved too. I liked all of those movies. So to me, it's not about a grudge. To me, it's Inception and Interstellar is a downswing for me in his career. And I know for many people, it's a huge upswing. It's like the realization of something. I totally respect that. I don't know if you agree with me, but I think following might be his best word. It's a skeleton key. It really is a skeleton key to his entire filmography. Who's third? It's me. Dub. So I'm very clear. Did you think that you were going to get Inception because he was going to say, like, I couldn't possibly draft it? I was prepared. I had two possibilities. And I knew that if he didn't take it, I had to take it logically, you know, in terms of playing a game to win. I think it had to be Social Network Inception or vice versa. And I think because it's the ringer, the number three movie is also pretty clear. Well, sure. And here I go. An Oscar nominee. I will be taking the town. There she is. Which, when we said 2010, was the first movie that popped into my head. There goes college soccer. This movie is directed and stars Ben Affleck, a patron saint of this podcast and my personal life. It's cool. Love this movie. This movie is so good. This went last night when I needed to prep and I wanted, you know, I wanted to put something on that I was familiar with while I was like looking at my computer. You're like the dulcet tones of Blake Lively. That's what I got to hear right now. Listen, she's just, and I did stay watching through that scene. But the, come on, the opening of it with the, you know, I understand that it rips off your beloved heat, but I like to think of it as more of an homage. It's all, it's in conversation with one another. You know. Men in different cities doing the same thing. I still, and, and. That's exactly right. Yeah. With, with flair. The, the title card of I'm proud to be from Charlestown. It ruined my life literally, but I'm proud makes me laugh every single time. It is also really fucked up. Ben Affleck, pretty good in this. Jeremy, Jeremy runner, obviously. Whose car are we going to take? Yeah. And then also, you know, ham doesn't get a lot of credit, but this is the not fucking around crew. And Titus Walliver really used that a lot in my own life. It was, I finally got to go to Fenway last year, I think, or was it two years ago? Anyway, only thing I thought about was being in the town. I, I love this movie. It's very, very well made crowd pleasing entertainment. So thank you, Ben Affleck. Is it fair to say that no matter what the draft order had been, those would have been the top three movies? I didn't have the town on my, here's the reason I didn't, because it felt unfair to take it from the people who care about it so much. Is that the attitude one should bring to a draft? Generous. That isn't the one I brought. I think a very logical pick. Yeah. Um, what are their wives names? Janet's the Janet's want you to open the door. Really good stuff. I'm going to do a little Fergie. I love it. Yeah, please. What do you think? What 2010 movie do you think Fergie would have worked best in outside of the Toy Story three? I'm going to send you the fucking moon. That's good. Does that happen in Toy Story? It goes up. No. Okay. Uh, no, Ben, you're up. Rob. It's me. It was Rob. Yeah. Uh, I will be. I will be selecting Toy Story three. God damn it. Okay. Amazing movie to me, the best Toy Story movie. Whoa. And I am, I am really spooked about blockbuster, so I'm actually going to take it in blockbuster. Oh, okay. Um, I think you're not going to get a better high from franchise filmmaking than the end of Toy Story three, Andy giving away all of the toys in which I am a wreck. As he says, just some nice little affectionate thing about like, here's Woody, my guy, you know, here's slinky dog. That's that's peak to me. Did you see five yet? I have not seen five yet. I'm saving it to see with some friends. Very excited about it though. The end of the movie was so devastating. I did not think they could make another one. Did they really? But I get it, but I did the end of the movie. Like this was, this was in my, this is the, um, the trash compactor. Yes. It's the most devastating scene in movie history. Wait, the trash compactor is the devastating one. Oh my God. I was, it's definitely Andy giving away the toys. I think this is great. I just thought they were going to die. It's just, I think about whether you think they're they're going to die. It's them confronting the end of something so monumental. It is the most beautiful thing I've ever seen in my life. My top four has gone in order here. This is really fun. Also scary in terms of some movies being available when it comes back to me on the turn, but this is my favorite toy story movie as well. I just, it's wonderful. Love couldn't be me. Toy story one. You seen it? That's the second on my power. Incredible. You do remind me a lot of any toy story movies. I haven't. You haven't. I don't watch cartoons. No, I just haven't seen. Oh, GI Joe's. What were your toys? Yeah, like what were your toys? Transformers mask, GI Joe, and then star Wars stuff. And did you have like a, a special toy or like lovey, like a person that you took everywhere? Uh, not a blankie, not after like five, the line of the shields, baseball card. Uh, okay. I do think that that's probably the consensus top four. Yeah. Yeah. At least amongst us. And then van comes now van Latham has a selection to make. Yeah. Versus the world. Yeah. Fucking hell. Damn. Amazing movie. Yeah. Uh, was that the first pod? We ever did. We did. Yeah. It was either that or the Mr. Holland's opus rewatchables, which is one of my favorite pods. Scott Pilgrim has not been a rewatchable, right? It is not comedy. Comedy. Cause Scott Pilgrim versus the world. I don't think it's been a proper rewatchable. Has it? No. No, no, no. We did. We did a big picture. Year anniversary. Year anniversary on it. Um, me, you and basic conception. I don't want to say the term cause I think it's overused, but a perfect movie. Genuinely. Love it. It's the best. Perfect movie. Perfectly cast. Uh, like a fantasy world that you want to be a part of. You wish these were your friends. You wish these were the happenings. The movie is just completely brilliant in every way to me. It also knows how ridiculous it is and how much of a piece of shit Scott is like, those two things are so important. Like a lesser adaptation would be like, Hey, let's do the fun video game stuff. Hey, let's do the, you know, the evil exes. And we'll just lose track of what it's actually trying to say. This one is, well, let's stay away from how much of an asshole he is and not give you that smooth it out. Right? Yeah. Music is incredible in it. The Beck songs. Also, uh, incredible draft class cast. Yeah. Early. Um, Aubrey Plaza. Yeah. Brandon Routh, Winstead, Mary Elizabeth, Winstead, Schwartzman, Chris Evans is in it. And by the way, Kendrick, like some of those people in that movie, aren't like always super cool. When they're in other movies. But if one, if a movie has three of the coolest performances ever, you know, that motherfucker, that's another thing about the town, like Ben, Jeremy Renner, and very good. Like these guys, those guys have never been cooler in another movie. - And Blake Lively. - Yeah. And Blake Lively. But she really is though. Like. - Age, Age of Adaline. I'm pretty sure. Fucked up. - I fucking love that movie. I think that shit is underrated, bro. - Okay. I love that movie. - You just love a historical baddie, you know? - Yeah, man. - Crossing time and place. - Harrison's like, I showed that movie to my mom. My mom was a basket case. She was like, "Oh my God, they were in love before." I'm like, "Yeah, it's his son. It's kind of weird, but whatever." I love that fucking movie. I know y'all don't take it seriously, but that's the type of shit I get into. Saturday afternoon with mama. But mama, let me put something on and blow your fucking mind. Watch what happened to Han Solo. - Did you start crying for a second? - I love that thing. It's fun. - Scott Pilgrim versus the world's a great pick. - Okay. - Okay, now it is CR's turn. - Shutter Island blockbuster. - Damn it, y'all. - Gotta be. - Yeah. - I was like, it's gonna make it all the way to me. - If I didn't do the Inception thing, this is what I was doing. - I can't remember if you, I think you said when you were talking about 2010 in general about like expectations versus what you got in the theater. I think Shutter Island was a minor letdown when I saw it. So I was such a huge fan of the Dennis Lehane book. And then it is something that stands up to such thorough interrogation on repeat viewing. It is so well-made. The performances are so good in this. Ruffalo and DiCaprio are incredible. Michelle Williams is heartbreaking in this. That's all she did back in 2010. Just break people's hearts. - She did. - Yeah. - And it's just such an awesome genre exercise by Scorsese that actually then breaks through some whatever walls of like, you know, this is a cool thriller, a cool psychological Hitchcock homage, becomes something like incredibly profound and sad. But I highly recommend the book as well. If anybody's ever looking for a beach read, Dennis Lehane always delivers Mystic River. There you go. On the beach, Mystic River. Pop a cold one and just relax a little bit. Check out Shutter Island. Shutter Island, it's like a mystery, but it's like there's water, you know, like if you're on the beach, maybe you're just like. I'm looking for like film reading. Yeah, I did that once. I went to. My mom took me to Florence before I went to college and I read, what's that book? Charles Webb. Agony and the Ecstasy. No one? Anyway, it was good, but I haven't. Maybe I'll do some water themes. But this remains one of my favorite 21st century Scorseses, so. I would encourage people, if they haven't seen it, to check out A Personal Journey with Martin Scorsese through American Movies, which is a documentary he did some years ago where he talks through a lot of different kinds of American movies he loves. He talks a lot about noir in that documentary and you can see him like 10 years later doing all the stuff he always wanted to do in that movie, which is really great and I think it's going to be a big hit. Your turn, Jo. - Really tough. - Okay, Joanna. - Really tough for me. - You wanted Shutter Island? - Yeah. - Blockbuster, I think, is by far and away the hardest category for me 'cause I think a lot of these films absolutely blow and I was really hoping for either Inception or Shutter Island, however, there's still a great one here. - There's a good one right here. - Left for me and it's called True Grit and that is what I'm taking in Blockbuster. - That's tough. - This is like Jeff Bridges, like Crazy Heart was really the beginning of it, but like, in full, like. Coot mode, and it's just like all coot from there on out. - Cootin'. - But this is, yeah, just like roostering and cootin'. - Cootin' and hell or high waterin'. - Yeah. - I'd like to explore more about coot mode. - Yeah, you know. - When's Chris entering his coot mode? - I think I've been in it for. - I think you need to, like, lose a tooth in order to, like, really get there. - It's coming. - Yeah. - You have great teeth. - They're British. They'll fall out, actually. - An incredible intro to Hailey. - Mm-hmm. - Great David performance. My guy, Barry Pepp, is here. Donald Gleeson's here. It's a fantastic movie. And a remake that no one was clamoring for because, you know, John Wayne's version is so iconic. And then they just really did it. - True. - Great. - Really? - And how is it a blockbuster? - I was gonna say. - Yeah. - Shout-out 2010 when this made $171 million. - Yeah, that's wild. - At the box office. Domestic. - I do believe the. - Domestic. - Yeah. - The primary producer of the film who helped to get it made was a young man named David Allison. - Oh. Interesting. - And it was in his earliest days of trying to get "Skydance" off the ground. He was getting involved in active projects without developing them himself. - And if the Coen brothers have been like, "We're good, it's okay." - Are you trying to besmirch my one remaining good option that I had in "Blockbuster"? - I'm merely, you know, elevating an important fact about one of the incoming leading CEOs. - In some ways. - In many ways. - In media and film. - Drew Grit laid the path to get to "Lioness." - That's right. - Oh, shit. - That's really why Joe picked it. - As you know, I'm a huge "Lioness" fan. - "Strong Women," that's what you like in your stories. - So you have two picks here. - Yes, you have another pick. - Oh. - I think the other tough-for-me category is franchise film. So I am taking the American release of the Swedish film, "The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo." - Wow. - Great pick. - I think that's a great guess. - This was a question that Mallory asked me yesterday. - Yeah. - Could, would this be a Swedish movie? - "Rooney Mara"? - It would be. - Yeah, of course. - No, this is Noomi Rapace's Swedish version. - Noomi Rapace. - And then Michael Nyquist. - Oh, I never saw that one. - And then Fincher remakes it the next year. - You took that in French. - That one I saw. - Yeah. - It's good. - They released all three, the entire trilogy, in 2010. - Did you read those books? - I did, yes. - Yeah, yeah. - I really like an open-faced sandwich. I just like everything. She's just always eating an open-faced sandwich or a frozen pizza. - She's eating a few other things. - Okay. - Yeah. - There you go, Sean. - Okay. Yeah, I feel really good about that, in a franchise film. That's all I have to say about that. - Okay. - Those are sterling picks. We're back to UCR. - An original. - Look at you, no phone, no computer. - I'm taking "Unstoppable." - Oh, beautiful. Okay. - The platonic idea of the movie. Two men on a train. - Wait, an original? - Yeah, is it based on something? - I think there's a book. - I think so, isn't it? - What? - No. - It is based on the real life, CSX888 incident. - You can pick it in another category. - I'll pick it in another category if I have to. Are you really telling me that that is not an original? - It is based on the real life CSX888 incident. - He's reading it off of Wikipedia, and we've never been wrong. - So, source material. - You can pick that in other categories. - It's Oscar eligible, I believe. - It's Oscar eligible. - Yeah, and certainly wild card. - This incident has its own Wikipedia page, and in the first paragraph of that page, it says the incident inspired the 2010 movie "Unstoppable." - This must be great to just be able to write the constitution as you go. It's just be like, "Commitment four, "if it has a Wikipedia page." - Here's my advice to you. Start your own movie podcast. - Wow. - I've tried. - Crazy. - I've tried. - I guess I'll put it at Oscar. - Sure. - Love it. - Oscar, good. - That's good. - That's great. - That's incredible. - Like I was gonna say, just the platonic ideal of a movie, two men on a train, that train won't stop. - That's like guys in the city doing their thing. - And then the executive's like, "I don't know." And they're like, "Denzel, Chris Pine, Tony Scott, "get the fuck out of it. "Write the check, and don't talk to me for a year." That's how this movie worked. And it was perfect. And Quentin Tarantino agrees with us. In fact, he illuminated this movie to me. I always liked it very much. And then talking about it with him on Rewatchables, I was like, "I have been converted." This is what the guy on the road to Damascus, what happened to him, you know? - What happened to him? - You and Paul? - Converted. - Yeah. - You and Paul were just sort of like, "I've seen the light." - Wonderful, wonderful movie, and a great snapshot of Pennsylvania. - How wonderful. - It's just guys in different cities doing things. - Yeah, it is. - At this time, they're yelling, "Luck doesn't exist at a rail yard." Just back and forth to each other, over and over. - Do you like riding on a train? - This movie rules. - I love trains. - You like train travel? - Oh, I love trains. - How could you not? - You don't? - We grew up in the Northeast Harbor. - That's one of the things I miss about the East Coast. - I spent a lot of time on trains, I think. I think I feel like I climb. - The Acela Express? - Between the Long Island Railroad, the subway, the PATH train, I've done my time. - You do a lot of PATH training in your life? - Sure, plenty. - I was in Weehawken, New Jersey. - Oh, wow. - There's always a hidden chapter with you, man. - Yeah, that's true. - I took the train from New Orleans to LA. - To get out here? - Oh, wow. - New Orleans to LA, how long did that take? - 48 hours. - With a bindle and a whole thing? - Sleep car? - Mm-mm. It's hanging out. - No sleep car? - No sleep car. - Just a seat? - Was this in 1902? When did you do this? - This was when I came out to LA. - I could see you doing very well on the train. A lot of conversations. - A lot of conversations. - You love to ride the rails. - Observation car. So that when the train stops and it connects, in Texas you're in San Antonio, so you gotta stay there for like four hours. It's always like on a Monday, you watch Monday Night Football, it's great. - Was Wemby there? - Wemby was not there. - Okay, good. - I don't know if he was born. - It's your pick, brother. - It's my pick. In original, I'm gonna take a movie that's off the beaten path, so I don't need to think about that. I don't care. In franchise film, I'm gonna go Iron Man 2. - You know there are many rounds left. - And this is incredible. - You know what? - You love Mickey Rourke. - I think it's unfairly maligned. - Do you? - I do. I think the Iron Man, I think the first three Iron Man, I don't care about winning this fucking draft. I wanna talk about Mickey Rourke as Whiplash. - I will say in retrospect, like when Marvel films got worse, you look back on Iron Man 2, you're like, "Oh, not that bad." - Wait, you did franchise or blockbuster? - I did it in franchise. - Isn't this Natasha's introduction to the- - Introduces us to Natasha? - Yeah, Happy's watching her change in the rear view mirror, remember? - The original, not the original, the second War Machine. - I remember. - The second War Machine. Well, the second, no, kind of the original. - Justin Hammer is in this one. - So the second Rhodey, the original War Machine. - He wasn't War Machine in the first time. - Right, he wasn't War Machine in the original one. I recently caught it, and I was delighted to do so. - Genuinely incredible. - You caught it? - You might catch chlamydia. - Chlamydia. - I recently caught the movie, damn it, and I thought the movie was, I like it also. This reminds me- - Is this where Leslie Bibb met Sam Rockwell? - Is that true? - Is this their origin story? I don't know. - I think he's funny in it. This also is indicative of the time where Hollywood went, "Mickey Rourke, maybe we'll do it again." - And then they were like, "No." - Nah. - Yeah, they tried. - Yeah. - They tried. - Yeah. - But when the wrestler comes out, he's like, "Oh, let's do Mickey again. "He's fucking crazy talented," which he is, but just- - Also crazy. - Also crazy. - I have a lot of notes on the Monaco Grand Prix sequence now that I'm an F1 fan. Just gonna throw that out there. - This is a real Jon Favreau, we sure he's good situation for me. Got more than a few of these on the ledger. - Well, this was a whole Jon Favreau did not wanna make this movie so quickly, but they locked him down, right? As the first Iron Man comes out, it's this massive success, and they just lock him down for Iron Man 2 and try to get it out as fast as possible. And when you see the behind the scenes footage of Favreau on set, he just looks so tired and sad, and he's just sort of like, "I've made a real devil's bargain here." - Two great below the line contributors to this film. Do you know who the screenwriter of this movie is? - No. - Who's the sole credited screenwriter of Iron Man 2? No one knows who it is? - Justin Theroux. - Justin Theroux. - That's right. - Wow. - I wrote a book. - If you didn't know, that would've been a problem. The cinematographer of the film is Matthew Libetique, long time Spike Lee collaborator. - Was this Disney era or no? - Yeah. - They did come in at this point? - They were, yeah. - Interesting. - That was a choice. Is Rob up now? - Yeah. - Rob's up. I'm scared you're going to pick what I want. I came here to win the draft and to experience Ennui. And I am out of Ennui. I will be selecting somewhere in. I knew this was going to happen. Right away, you're fucking her. I mean, I was planning to do it next. That feels spiteful and rude. I don't know how I didn't see it coming. This is why I asked everyone to set the over-under. No one engaged. He doesn't know how to be any other way. It's a bit. I love this movie. Hey, Rob, me too. And I have to say, you're partially to blame. If you weren't such a strong advocate for your perspective on cinema. You're so welcome. You know, it really is a joy. What do you love about it, Rob? Which category? Honestly, first of all, is it weird that this movie makes me want to be a dad? Is that a weird takeaway from someone? They find each other. I am a father of several kids. It's one of the girl dad movies. Incredible girl dad movie. Honestly, incredible Hollywood movie. And more MySpace. I find a lot of movies about movies to be a lot, frankly. This one is so subdued. It is so rolling its eyes at the whole process. It's a lot of boring junkets and existential crises. And that's where I like to live, personally. Sure. Which category did you pick? I'm going to take it in. I'm going to take it in comedy. Who plays the kid in this? Somewhere? I don't think it's Ellie Anning. Like, absolute star-making. I wouldn't get you. Challenge him. Yeah, I. You don't think it's a comedy? No. Okay. Okay, this movie. Parts of it are like this. Amanda. Twin strippers are very funny. Hey, do you know who those strippers are? I support it. Those are the Shannon twins. Okay. And that's. And that movie. Hold on, hold on. Go ahead. So, those are. So, look. So, I'm watching that movie. I'm set. Those are the first time I had ever seen the Shannon twins before. Okay. And I was like, whoa. That's the L.A. shit that I'm talking about. Yeah. Now, they went on to do. You know who the Shannon twins are? Tell us more. You guys don't know about the Shannon. This is TMZ shit. Okay. Well, they went on to. So, you know the Blue Mountain. It's not porn addict shit. It's TMZ shit. Or is it both? It could be both. Okay. I don't think Sean denied it. He just deflected it. He knows who they are. They were a playboy at first. Then, you know Sam Jones from Blue Mountain State? Yeah. Okay. He went on to do a sex tape with one of the Shannon twins. So, you got even more later on. Okay. Yeah. So, anyway, this is the first time I ever saw them. And where are they now, the Shannon twins? They ended up getting BBLs. Oh, that's too bad. And so, they changed a little bit. Okay. But that's the first time I ever. That's the first time I ever saw them was in that movie. Did everyone. I love that. They ended up getting BBLs on their bingo card of what we were talking about. I haven't given this group. What? But they haven't had them on BBLs. They hadn't had them when they were in that movie. No, no, no. In that movie. But people are undoing the BBLs now. Oh, I don't know if they've gotten. I haven't seen them in a while. Does one dissolve a BBL? I don't actually know about them. Or extract it. I think they go. It depends on what kind of BBL it is. I'm backing Amanda. This is not a comedy. That scene is very funny. That's not a comedy in any way, shape, or form. It's not a comedy. The movie opens with them doing a dual strip dance to My Hero. There goes My Hero. It's not a comedy. The Foo Fighters. It's not a comedy. Somewhere. What? According to Wikipedia, Somewhere is a 2010 drama film. Okay. So, are you taking it in wild card? I will take it in original instead. Original is. Wait. Are you sure that there's nobody in this movie that is based on some real. It says it is based on the real life adventures of the. Shannon twins. Isn't this, like, at least semi-autobiographical? But not. Not enough to disqualify it? No. It's using. I agree. All right. Points out. Inspired by, but not. That's actually helpful for another pick. It's a contemporarily side story about the daughter of. There's no hyperlink where this was, like, it was in the Mickey Rourke era, and they were like, it's gonna happen for Stephen Dorff to be back. They kept Dorff was right there. I know. And he's so good at this. And he's just never, like, wonderful at it. Oh, my God. The teacup scene under the water at the Chateau. They tried to read Dorff once. I should have known. It's like a history detective season. It's really good. Oh, it should be. Julian Casablanca's solo material is where he and Dorff is just fucking cool. Like, Dorff has been. You know what? I think he's a little self-defeating. Season three. Not 11th Dimension. What's the other. What's the really good song? How could it be? Very talented. Very talented. You know that song? It came on the other day, and I thought of you because it's a dynamite song. What was happening there? Because Rob and I believe in Julian Casablanca's solo projects, not Voids, just the solo album. Yeah. It's like a six-track, all bangers, no skips. And I should. I should have known, because I know he also loves. I'd love to be a lecturer at Julian Casablanca's as a former music journalist. You asked a question, and I'm giving you the answer. So that's how we're fucking. You just hit me with a robin eye. I'm like, all right. I'm glad you guys found union. He did. After he just shanked you in the chest. Okay. Well, I know I was saying I should have known, because he loves I'll Try Anything Once. She really likes it, because if we had done it, it would have just been fucking. I mean, you guys are kind of. You guys are a little cold on somewhere, which is. Like, last time. It's not my favorite. I know, you're just like, I've seen an Antonioni phone before, which, like, okay, congratulations. So I appreciate you didn't know each other back then. How do you know what I'm talking about? You know, we've had many a Sophia conversation over the years. Yeah, I appreciate that Rob. I like it. It's not bad. sees her work. True. Plus, I am a man of a certain age wandering around L.A. Hey, man, it looks like the Shannon twins got the BBLs taken out. Well, I was going to paint that picture, but luckily, I have. I didn't realize this. It looks like the Shannon. Guys, cross talk? I apologize. This is complicated. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, we were getting an update on the BBLs. Have they been dissolved? It looks like they got the BBLs taken out, the Shannon twins. I see, I told you. That's on their Instagram. He's on their Instagram right now. That's what they're doing. In certain parts of the culture. Yeah, right. There's a camera literally over your shoulder right now, so be careful with what you're pulling out. Oh, you cannot dissolve a BBL. It is a. They should do that on the. It's a removal? It's an extraction situation. Maybe they won't. Okay. Because what is. Well, it depends on what kind of BBL, though. Well, yeah. You get the fat transferred and like, you know, that's like kind of not. Sure. Then there's implants, but like the Shannon twins look like they. They got the implants removed? Yeah. All right. I hope everything went well. So what category did you just take that in, Rob? He took it in original. I took it in original, yes. Okay. Because he got bullied out of comedy, just like I got bullied out of comedy. It's an extremely gaudy movie. I don't know what to say. No, it was bullied. We'll find out when we get to your originals. It's funny, but not a comedy. I already chose my original. Unless it's about the comedy of the emptiness of life. He chose a movie he hated to avoid just such ignorance, so. Hated? Okay, so I obviously was going to take somewhere in original next, and I was going to do it next because I knew Rob would be lurking. I just didn't think he would have the guts, and I kind of salute you. So what we learn from this is go with your heart. Oh, no. So. But. Oh, no. Oh, I didn't even think about that, but then you just started whining, so, oh, so now I have to go with my other heart. Okay. This is an incredible experience. In comedy. Are you making a frittata? I'm making Morning Glory. Yeah, we're making a frittata. You know what? I was not going to do it until you said, oh, no, so I just want you to learn a lesson from this, which is keep it tight. Poker face. Keep it tight. Keep it tight. That's a good lesson. Morning Glory. An incredible 2010 romantic comedy written by Aline Brush McKenna, who also wrote Devil Wears Prada, 27 Dresses. Shout out to the homie. This stars Rachel McAdams as an aspiring, well, she is a national news producer. Yeah. Who else is in this movie? Patrick Wilson. Third ranked morning show. And this is at a time, unlike in Disclosure Day, where broadcast news still mattered. Thank you. And she is producing a morning show starring Diane Keaton. She recruits Harrison Ford, the old anchor, back. He is curmudgeonly, and then ultimately he's not, and he makes a frittata, and then also exposes some local corruption. And Patrick Wilson is there being very handsome. Really, really good movie. It's a good movie. It's undersung. So. It's like, it's sort of huffing working girls, like, you know. Yeah. But it works. It's really good. Even though I rewatched it recently, or I just watched the frittata scene recently, and he says it that way the whole time. He does, yep. And she is wearing a ball gown. Not a ball gown. I'm sorry. It's a cocktail dress because it is just below the need to her job interview at the Today Show. It's tough. Which is, she wears a little cardigan over it, but. And she has to run in it. Right. Well, and you understand. You understand that they've chosen this dress, so they have the montage of her running in real New York, where it is filmed, with the dress switching. And she looks very pretty. This is also one of the reasons that then Rachel McAdams gave that lovely tribute to Diane Keaton at the Academy Awards this year, which was very nice, because they worked together. They also worked together on Family Stone, which I had forgotten. Underrated in its own way, but not released in 2010. So morning glory in comedy it is. Great. That's not what I had in mind. Okay. It's fine. No frittatas. No frittatas for you. But I always welcome a Harrison Ford selection. Deny, deny. Harrison Ford. Now I am scared that Sean's going to take what I want, though. Actually. Genuinely. I have no idea what you're going to take. I'm not quite sure where to go. Is it because you can't take a movie you hate and would give six out of ten to? Stop using the word hate. You're like Palpatine. You know? It's flowing through you, not me. Unlimited power. I do that to Alice all the time now, and she loves it. Unlimited power. Incredible. That's very scary. It is very. She thinks it's hysterical. Okay. In comedy, I will be taking the other guys. Fucker. That hurts, Chris. The last true Adam McKay comedy. This is right before the big pivot to the socially minded. I would argue, though, this is the beginning of the socially minded movies that he makes. This is a comedy starring Will Ferrell and Mark Wahlberg in historical performances. Also, showing us the hideous nature of capitalism. Thanks to Steve Coogan's character, who is an evil banker. Incredible Michael Keaton performance in this movie. Five of the best minutes you'll ever see from The Rock. Sam Jackson the jump off the building is so funny it's hard to the the the like outtakes of Eva Mendes scenes are just like some of the best who is that who is she are you allowed to talk about her into a microphone she's one of your all-timers she's a goat she's like this is one of her very last screen performances she doesn't do a lot of movies but like she's like when she's like he's like honey I can't believe you're dressed in like that sloth yeah that scene might be some of Mark Wahlberg's best acting he's so funny that reacting to her entering the room is some of the best stuff he's ever done what's going on I don't understand who is that no seriously who is that it's the old ball and chain yeah and this does feel like kind of getting close to the end of this era of movies not just for McKay but for this whole cohort of Yap Tao guys what was the last one was it 22 Jump Street get him to the Greeks the tombstone right 22 Jump Street get him to the Greek you could argue Neighbors maybe Neighbors is a good one all of that stuff starts to fade away and those guys are gone Neighbors as well I like Neighbors 2 Neighbors is fucking Neighbors 2 oh with the sorority girls yeah you wanted it to center women you thought Neighbors should center the female perspective definitely you like it I definitely want to go to Neighbors 2 for so yeah that's it that's not what you were worried about no I'm gonna I get to pick both the movies I wanted to pick here I'm excited cool okay I should be normal about it you said we recorded with you an hour ago and you were like I'm gonna be totally chill she says that before every draft no pro I get to pick what I feel like I picked Social Network everyone agreed it was a good pick stand by it I've waited an hour to make my second pick and now I'll do so very calmly okay go ahead with my second pick I will be selecting my original I'm thrilled to select Blue Valentine I will be celebrating cunnilingus here in the second round one of the most memorable scenes in movie history and also a movie about how falling in love and lust is exciting and being married is often quite hard this is a movie that I think about often you love a divorce yes I really do love this movie this is one of my favorite movies of the year just incredible performances from Michelle Williams and Ryan Gosling and then I'm really excited to pick a another one of my genuinely favorite movies from this year I'm going to take Kick-Ass as my comedy on the turn here I love Kick-Ass that movie rules it is incredibly incredibly violent incredibly comic hard to watch heightened disturbing riveting it's a great genre film that is not actually eligible in original to be clear but it's very original in its spirit even though it is part of a franchise and I love that film probably very influential on like James Gunn stuff the boys Deadpool Deadpool definitely hyper violent kind of like rude graphic forget the R rating let's go into NC-17 territory one of many Nick Cage oh he never leaves us he pops back he pops back in to check in on us yeah Nick Cage he can do it don't act so surprised it's like you're being very rude about it no it's just sometimes you're like huh you take enough for him I'm here for all Cage Sorcerer's Apprentice whatever let's do it let's ride so many for your Nick Cage movies I've seen still waiting for your Spider Noir thoughts by the way look it's a busy time I've had many 2010 movies to watch I think it's a good show same yeah I think it's a good show same by the way this guy that Ryan Gosling was during this time I thought that he would be that guy forever this was my favorite actor in the universe like I thought this is an amazing performance the Place Beyond the Pines Blue Valentine Drive version of Ryan Gosling I thought that was going to be Ryan Gosling and then Ryan went nah not too much let me sun it up a little bit and he's been kind of drifting back and forth he did nice guys and he took a lot of time off yeah he did walked away for a while but like that dude was deadly coolest the coolest motherfucker in the entire time yeah this was also this was like internet boyfriend this was Hey Girl era right yeah do you remember this yeah it was really powerful stuff the fact that Blue Valentine might have inspired Hey Girl we were we were adrift no it was Lars and the Real Girl okay Lars and the Real Girl yeah yeah yeah yeah but I'm holding my Derek C in France stock and I will be holding it in perpetuity one of my one of my favorite I got you brother I'm backstopping your investment if we if we just put Gosling in Roofman what is Roofman goes crazy but you know what everybody nobody even knows he's still cooking off those Dick's Sporting Goods ads remember how goaded those were I do hell yeah I had breakfast at C in France once just magical shit he was just like it's all about the soul just looking me right in the eyes dead serious like I was like don't you know I'm an Iron Man I'm an Irony poisoned millennial weirdo and he was like no listen did he make you live in a house with him for a month before you had breakfast we got married divorced remarried so I'm currently a bigamist I love him too Fassbender recently told a story about how he you know he and Alicia Vikander like hooked up on the Derek C in France set and how he used to like Derek put his trailer here Michael Fassbender's was here and Alicia Vikander was here and he just used to sneak out at night to like fuck her wildly and then go back to his trailer wildly wow good for him some light between oceans oh that was the the lighthouse movie yeah they all had to live together for that one too yeah well that one that is sort of you're on a remote location that's the whole gist of the movie good sweaters in that one who wouldn't fall in love and create a family and stay together forever after making the light between oceans a film for our time yep my turn yeah you went Blue Valentine and what was the second pick Kick-Ass Kick-Ass of course so I have yeah I took Blue Valentine as original and Kick-Ass as comedy okay long time until it comes back to me so yeah that's how I feel I'm halfway between that boy I feel great about my first three but round four is a I think I'm going to take an Oscar nominee the Australian crime drama Animal Kingdom I almost took that sick come on Sean I almost took this just a sick movie written and directed by David Michaud starring Joel Edgerton Ben Mendelsohn Guy Pearce and the Oscar nominated Jackie Weaver for Best Supporting Actress do you know what I was gonna can I just tell you what I was gonna do with this you can do this was gonna be my franchise that's one of that's one of the questions I texted him about could it be a franchise part of the reason why I'm taking it is because I knew there would be some interest in it in multiple categories but it's also it's an awesome it's one of the great crime movies of the 21st century it's fantastic can we clarify the franchise point like is this eligible for franchise I think so yeah did I say yes it's IP they made like a long running TNT series off this they did I just know the big picture can be very small minded about television sometimes and I just want to respect it as a big screen yes wait which category did you take it in I'm taking an Oscar Oscar nominee Jackie Weaver because of Jackie Weaver great movie shot by Adam Arkapaw this is this is a great great movie I think it's like a little kind of going under the radar now I think it's gonna show maybe has not elevated the way that some people thought he would as a filmmaker but I'm huge fan of this movie Mendelsohn's out of his mind in this he's so good this is like a big like Ben Mendelsohn Joel Edgerton like that generation of Australian filmmakers kind of coming to the fore at this time yeah for sure and Nash his brother and a bunch of other people popping at this time yeah okay damn it that was tough for me Amanda you ready yes and Rob Mahoney is lurking so I will now do my other heart as previously referenced in original I'm gonna take Greenberg yeah the Noah Baumbach film about a very angry man who writes letters because he can't connect with other people and and I referenced this movie both in terms of letter writing I don't actually write the letters some other do you compose them in my head I'm just like if I were gonna do this and it also brings me back from the edge you know like you don't wanna be the Greenberg writing the letter you got a little Greenberg in you of course you're now a newsletter author so and then that's true one that would be that would be a nice good alternate the Greenberg diaries to the management of Albertsons yeah your aisles must be bigger Amanda did Greenberg inspire the correspondent what do you think have you read the correspondent I haven't read the correspondent it's on your list I know from your Instagram stories everyone like recommended it it's quite good but I heard that it was very a lot of crying you'll you will be sobbing and I'm not looking for that experience in my life right now but it's also uplifting and affirming right but incredibly sad so I'm gonna do it the other reason I reference this I think of this movie all the time is there's a scene when they're taking the Greta Gerwig character to get the abortion and she says can we go to In-N-Out afterwards and Ben Stiller says it's your day and I once a week I'm like I say it's your day a lot to other people and I don't think they know that I'm referencing that scene in Greenberg but I am I fully am always be Greenberg yeah anyway Bomack is one of my favorite filmmakers it's been you know an up and down and interesting journey on a text message between me you and Tracy yes this week I said I will never ever sell my Bomack and I will never sell it either but I have found myself walking I mean I walked out of J. Kelly and was like I miss Greenberg Bomack and this is this and Margot at the Wedding are kind of the other end of the spectrum there's like the very you know he's softened and opened his heart and that's that's great in life and maybe not in movies or at least not what I'm looking for in movies - It is his day, but I find myself missing the green bird element does Jennifer Jason Leigh have a story credit on this movie I believe she does I think so yeah that one I was dancing around that part a little bit she does yeah it's an incredible movie about hating Los Angeles too this guy fucking hates Los Angeles he does and lives in the most incredible house yeah which you know I get it still we're making a Knicks documentary did you guys hear about that yeah congratulations you guys are just a team of the people do you think that's coming out before the next season of Severance or after Knicks in five also this trailer is not as big as the social network trailer for me but this was with all my friends LCD sound system and I still think about that anyway very very formative anyway incredible were you going to take Greenberg I was not going to take Greenberg this is not one for me it just kind of missed me for some reason yeah well you know you're younger and full of hope so that's good I don't know I did just take Somewhere so how full of hope could I be in comedy Rob you're up I will be selecting a movie that I don't know if any of you care about this movie but it means a lot to me personally to me one of the funniest movies ever made I will be selecting MacGruber oh my god I love this movie I do Rob I had this really high on my list it is I mean speaking of perfect movies incredible show me a movie that has a better getting the gang together montage better use of celery better dude plowing his wife's ghost on her gravestone yes I dare you to provide one you can't so I had never seen this yeah and Jomie was like Van you've never seen MacGruber I can't believe you've never seen MacGruber so we put it on yeah I thought that movie was absolutely fucking terrible what I dare you I could not believe how bad like so when you say Val Kilmer plays a villain named Dieter von Kuntz I know and you're telling me this is a bad movie when you were talking about getting the gang together that's like the wrestlers part right no there's like a getting I mean I don't want to spoil the bit but yeah he's getting his team his elite team he won't spoil MacGruber I wouldn't never and they all get it's like to me I tried like I had never seen MacGruber before I had obviously seen the Saturday Night Live sketches yeah and I sat down like okay MacGruber this is gonna be funny Jomie said Van I cannot believe you haven't seen MacGruber I tried to watch it that shit was fucking ass to me it was so terrible I'm like what did I miss about MacGruber it's really not that funny I stand by you Rob Van Mal thank you so much didn't they make a television show they made a spin off television show that's right which is I guess it wasn't covered on the watch I actually would like to select it in a franchise oh there you go not comedy franchise hey never saw that coming but I will allow it but Van this is hurtful every movie you have ever recommended to me is the most Inception 6 out of 10 movie I've ever seen in my life and you're telling me MacGruber is bad so the movies the movies that I like I tell you that they're bad and the reason why but he knows Van knows well I like movies for my own like so when someone see this deal when someone suggests a movie to me yeah and they're like and it's a movie that they love I kind of expect to love it when someone tells me oh this is the most important movie you've ever seen before then you're like I'm gonna write a blog post about how I hate it yeah you know what I'm saying like whatever but and so Jomie did this but you don't have a vendetta or anything you're just an honest commentator is what you're saying I never have vendetta I'm not a vendetta guy he just tells the truth I just tell the truth and then like when I watch that I'm like this is just not that funny like I just I really wish that I would have thought that MacGruber was funny it's for us this is the magic of cinema guys good time to remind him that he took Iron Man 2 in the second round I feel great about it we can do a franchise battle anytime you want Van where are you on Jackass I like it whoa whoa whoa don't don't Chris it's funny to me but once again I'm real early with the Jackass guys those are my guys you know they both have to pick this round CR you have a pick right it's my turn no Van's turn Van's up sorry Van your turn do we does Van need help with his microphone I just thought of a good Greenberg letter that I want to write to the the parking structure here because I keep getting locked in the door the doorways like in the hallway that's perfect do you have a fob and it's like a real fire hazard you have to have a fob you can't take the stairs I don't have a fob are you trying to take the stairs because it'll come here well how am I how am I getting out of the parking structure dearest parking structure that's what I'm saying I have like been locked in the stairwell like five times I think we need to take a bathroom break when the sun goes down the appetizers come out yeah you heard that right late night half price appetizers are here at Applebee's saucy sweet and spicy boneless wings crispy cheesy mozzarella sticks creamy spinach and artichoke dip your favorite apps half price available every single night because why should appetizers have curfews tap the banner to learn more dining only for a limited time at participating locations restrictions apply copyright 2026 Applebee's restaurant LLC the app this episode is brought to you by NOS Energy every ounce of dirt sweat and gears every checkered flag and trophy raised every lap every race every hard fought place they're all jammed inside every can of 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man like the book of Eli is one of those movies that when I walked out of it I was like yo that shit was crazy and my boys was like you being serious right now it's like you I thought it was I love it was your MacGruber it's my MacGruber a lot of people like MacGruber but like I like the book of Eli I thought it was a weirdly serious movie with great actors in it and um the girl from that 70s show they had he's Mila Kudus like Mila Kudus yeah you have say her name you have uh Gary Oldman yeah fucking Gary Oldman and Denzel Washington in the movie in a post-apocalyptic movie about a blind man who's trying to get a bible to the west coast I like I watch it every time and he has a dog right in that movie I don't think he has a dog he might have a dog I think you're thinking of I Am Legend yeah I don't think he has a dog why brutal is there a dog in there there's an incredible vanism there's an incredible vanism that I've come to understand very clearly what which is every time you are asked your opinion of a movie and you go I liked it that means everybody else hated it but you liked it I didn't hate it I don't see how you can hate or you were like most people are like eh and you you are you've come to defend it's funny that's what hey what did you think of Masters of the Universe loved it that isn't what you said after the screening it's not that isn't you were like I liked it I liked it so this is the deal there are certain times with me where I I just surrender to the narrative of a movie and Book of Eli is for some reason I just took the movie seriously everyone's dead they fucking trading ketchup packets in a post-apocalyptic town and Gary Oldman wants to get a bible so he can control everybody's minds I just thought we don't want him to get the bible I love the movie so I'm taking it only movies I like wonderful pick I'm going to share a very quick story for Van's appreciation and benefit my husband Adam knew this draft was today he knew the year and when Joanna and I finished a podcast this morning I looked at my phone and I had a text from Adam and it said this just want to make one last pitch he had not made a previous one for a couple movies I really love the Book of Eli and Tron Legacy this is why this is why he is my motherfucker this is why this is why this is why this is my guy by the way I know that y'all are not going to draft Tron I'm going to take that bitch Adam is probably going to vote for Van like it's I'm telling you this is why he's my guy I'm going to have to see how these categories are shaping up I know God it's getting thin okay Book of Eli off the board CR you're up alright do you want to talk about the possible trade are you guys really going to do this let's talk about it let's at least talk it through let's talk it out so Shutter Island for Inception what do I have to do to sweeten it since you took Inception second two movies you have to flip wow you have to flip your order in like multiple rounds no no no I'm asking him what if you're not you can't talk to a lady like that you don't speak to her like that are you fucking crazy why you can't you I'll speak to her however I want we go way back we go way back 100% you're doing however I want don't speak to her like that you'll become a little too familiar on this show you don't talk to my sister that way I'm not gonna let's just discuss this idea this isn't a pure offer okay Animal Kingdom and Inception for Shutter Island and Unstoppable straight up and can I move this category that they were drafted in. So I have to take Animal Kingdom and Oscar. And I would have to take Inception in original or in blockbuster. Is that clean? Do you have. So you just want to go two for two basically our drafts against one another. But you're first and second for his first and third because he has a higher overall first. Interesting. I don't think we've ever successfully traded. What's that? I don't think we've ever successfully traded because there's too much spite. No, we don't have to do it now. We can wait to see how the rest of the draft shakes out. I'm just surprised that you don't want that. I actually don't think that that is. I think you do have to do it now. This is just you and me. This is all noise. It's just you and me. I invented the rules of this game. I've never seen this out of Chris before. You don't speak to her that way. Chris is shouting down every woman on this call. Quiet, bitch! The man is talking! Specifically with Mal. Don't tell me. There's a draft card with the value of each pick. I have created so much space for Mal to do this. I support you endlessly. The picks can't just be swaps. There has to be value elsewhere. That's all I'm asking. I know what she's going to do. She's going to be the gatekeeper, dungeon master, key master. Not at all. I think the trade would be very interesting. I'm telling you, I don't know how interested I am in doing full-scale swaps. For as jealous as I am about Animal Kingdom, I think. And you love Inception. Shudder for Inception and would. That's a bad value pick. That's not a good value pick. Do you want to trade Inception for Shudder Island? I'm not going to do that. You could have just taken Shudder Island. That doesn't make sense. I was going to offer a pick swap. A pick swap? Yeah. Oh. Mallory likes that less. Oh. There's not as much value here at this point. What about future draft capital? Inception for Shudder Island and a pick swap at this point in round four? Or the next time I get the number one pick, I automatically give it to you. No, we're not doing future swaps. That's not eligible. I think that's awesome. Now we have a little. Now we got something cooking. I think Sean. It would be so awesome if in the next draft like I held your number one from Sean Finney. Now we're having fun. But then it makes the un-predetermined draft order a little bit more challenging. I don't want to go into the future. I want to stick in this draft. I want to do it like Leon Rose does it. You know? Player for player. How do we get OG here? He gave up five picks for Mikael Bridges. Financial doping based on secret payments made to Rick Brunson. Right? No. I mean. I tell you, you blow the wind up. So Pablo, what are you going to do? Oh, that happened? Oh, dear. Okay. It's rude for thought. And you know what? I just want to say I love you. And anytime you want to chime in. A lot of feedback from other people with no commentary from you on their responses. Just observe with interest. I'm going to take Jackass 3D and comedy. That's a great one. Incredible. The other night as I was preparing for this incredible draft, I. My wife heard me crying with laughter. And she said, husband. And you're like, I'm watching somewhere. Husband, what is it? I'll be here. And I said, wife, I am watching Bam Margera fall through the floor into a pit of plastic snakes. And when he tries to climb out of this hole, a guy comes and starts dumping real snakes on him. And Bam Margera has a full-scale panic attack and starts crying. Great news. You're sitting on top of a tree. On top of a trap door and below you. That's the next level for all of our pods. I know. It's too late if we just started doing snakes. Do you think that Amanda would react well if we did the giant hand hitting her? How do we not have that in the office already? Or the hall of tasers? One of the two. I know. Seriously. This movie also features. Are you afraid of snakes? I have actually. I have never tested that theory. How would you do. I don't find them scary on screen. Do you like it when someone brings a snake out as like. Gotta admit, that's never happened. Like a snake handling creature? Oh, you're getting a photo of Alice meeting the snake? Yeah. Oh, so at our preschool end of year event last week, the preschool family keeps some snakes and they show up late at the event every year and they're large. We're chilling with some snakes on Friday. I held a snake on Friday. We had snakes as classroom pets growing up. These are bigger snakes. Oh, I just. Yeah. Yeah. They're like. They're sort of like Britney Spears reminiscent. I think Raiders of the Lost Ark actually did a lot. A lot of damage. worked against snakes. Yeah. And anyway, this film also features Chris Pontius tying his penis to a remote-control helicopter and. They've been there for sure. Knoxville bullfighting while wearing camouflage. My favorite piece of content from 2026 is Knoxville being interviewed and very sincerely talking about his relationship with bulls and how he's no longer allowed to be near bulls because he loves them so much and loves the potentiality of being gored by them so that to protect his mind, he can't go in the ring anymore. Yeah. What's wrong with those guys? We have a lot of problems. There's so much right with them. I'm not saying like they. What I'm saying is like, obviously, they may. But like, they are really super human. Well, many of them are quite broken. Yeah. They're great artists, though. Their bodies are broken. They are. And they do it for us. What are you laughing at? A lot of CTE. No, they are, but like. I forgot about the helicopter penis. Yeah. This is so derated. His reaction's like, ah! You're talking about one of the co-stars of somewhere, not a comedy. This is what I'm saying. What a year for Pawdys. He apexed this year. Yeah. So I'll take Jackass. So it goes to Joe. Party boy is funny, man. Okay, so. You have another pick or no? No, it goes to Joanna. Joe. Oh, I'm sorry. Five people have taken comedies already. Sheesh. Not Rob, though. Great comedy year. He tried to take it in Subway. I know. They took it away from him. They did. Denied. Joanna Robbins, an original. This is a question I have. In an original, I'd like to take the comedy Easy A. No. No. Scarlet Letter. It's not Shakespeare. It's not Hawthorne. But it's inspired by. That's why I asked at the beginning. It's not the Scarlet Letter. It's just Scarlet Letter's reference in the. I think they say too much that that's like connected text. It's not based on the Scarlet Letter. It's not because you fuck the priest. Take it as your comedy. It's not the story of the Scarlet Letter at all. I. It is. It is. It's iterative of the Scarlet Letter. And that's also. And that's like sets Will Gluck's whole career of just updating stuff until one night only. I hear you. You've mounted a very reasonable defense. Once again, look at the Wikipedia and see how quickly the Scarlet Letter is mentioned there. It is like. The movie does not exist without the Scarlet Letter. This movie was partially inspired by the 1859 Scarlet Puppeteer. Very Wikipedia-centric as well. I love that. This is Scarlet Puppeteer. Scarlet Pimpernel? Is Scarlet Pimpernel? I love him. I'm sorry to say. So you're gonna put it in comedy? Yeah. It's a great pick here. I'm just gonna think about it. Okay. You don't want to do it now. You don't want to. Chris can speak more about Chris Pontius' penis if you'd like. Yeah. I would, frankly. I would like. Do the sound again. Ah! You did ask me this yesterday or no? No. No. I did not. I love that movie. Incredible Emma Stone performance. It's also eligible in Oscar. Yeah. For that reason. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. All right. Listen. We're trying to support you while enforcing safe boundaries. You know? Which is. Do you feel that Black Swan is too iterative of Swan Lake? I do. I feel it's too iterative of Perfect Blue to be honest with you. But that's a different conversation. It's actually the same thing where without it, without Swan Lake, Black Swan does not exist. This is among my least favorite developments on this show. This category? You can't make a movie about what is and isn't original art? You can't make a movie about art? Like if you make Shakespeare in Love, you're like, well, Romeo and Juliet's too involved in that? No, that would be okay. Are you kidding me? Shakespeare in Love would be okay? Shakespeare in Love is not original. No, you can't. You just ruled. You said it can't be based on real people. Not original Shakespeare in Love. Come on. Blue Shakespeare's in it. Even if it's historical fiction, what are you talking about? If you're going to be a tyrant, at least be consistent. Watch how you speak to me. Incredible. Believe it or not, Black Swan was not nominated for Best Screenplay, so we won't know in what category. Let's see. Was it Golden Globe? Did Darren pen that one himself? Hold on. Let's see. ECA and Black Swan, good picks on the turn here. Good picks on the turn and other categories? I'll think about it. I'll think about it. I have other questions. No. This one's for you. Okay. He did not. Let's see. Black Swan script nominees. I'm sorry. I'm just trying to fill and support you. No, I feel supported. Okay. Thank you so much. Would we. Do you have this in your house also when one person is trying to look up something on the phone or on the internet or fix something on the computer and the other person is just sitting right next to you telling you how to do it? Yes. That's how I'm the closest I've come to divorce. Thank you. I will not abide it. Get out of the room while I'm using the internet. Unbelievable. He's just like, no, no, click here. No. What? Thank God. You hot? Very. All right. Thank you so much for your patience. We just, we filled some time. Thanks for painting. I appreciate you. In comedy, I would like to take ECA. All right. Great pick. - That's a great pick. - That's gross. - That feels condescending. - Easy A. - Thank you so much. - Well done. - Emma Stone. - Way to go Jared of the game. - Deleting it? - I'm an ally, don't say anything that's otherwise. - In original, I will be taking the Angelina Jolie film, "Salt." - Oh! - I love it, I'm so glad. I mean, I had it in wild card and it was backup for original. Listen. - Original's a tough category. - She's not a real person? - No. - It was originally written for- - Evelyn Salt? - Yeah. - It was supposed to be Edwin Salt, right? - Yeah, Edwin Salt. - Okay. - I really, really wish this were eligible for a franchise. Where is "Salt 2?" - Where is "Salt 2?" - Jack, you seen "Salt" yet? 2010, "Salt 2," "Salt and Pepper"? - Haven't gotten to it yet. - It's really very good. - "Salt 2," "Salt and Pepper," obviously. - Anyway, your pick, Joanna. Speak on it. - That's it. - Just "Salt." - Thwarted from the movie she wanted to take. - Philip Noyce? - Yeah. - Yeah. - "Banger." - It's a great Angelina Jolie- - It's "Banger." - Really good. - Action film, a tremendous assortment, parade of wigs, which I always appreciate. - Oh, yeah, sure. - True, true. - And listen, they leave the door open for a sequel. I would love to watch "Salt 2." - Yeah. - If "Inception" is six out of 10, what's "Salt"? - 11 out of 10. - Four? - I'm not a "Salt" guy. - Okay, and what would "Ballerina" be? - John Wick presents Colin Ballerina. - Yeah. - Two? - Three? - Okay, all right. - I mean, that's fine, as long as that's the scale we're working on. - Just trying to get a baseline. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Look, making pods is all about doing shit like "Inception" is a six out of 10. This is what it is. - Yeah. - This is the art form. - I would never-- - I learned it by watching you, Dad, all right? - I would never shush a woman in my real life. - He'd never tell a woman how to scroll in the air in real life. - An adaptation of the trial letter when it's not. - You keep trying to walk her back. We saw what you did with "Rubber Metheroad." - Van, like, really white knighted the part. He was just like, "Sir, wait." - It was the hand gesture. - Not a hand gesture. - He just put the name up and shit. - No, I was-- - Shedding twins, I beseech you. - Okay. - Let Mallory speak. - So here's something interesting. - Why? - That I did not find by scrolling up by starting a new Google search. So "Black Swan" was an original screenplay at the WGAs, but it often changes the designation between original and adapted for the Academy. So again, not conclusive. - There was also like another screenplay, right? - Wait, what? - You guys also noted to me that my original screenplay idea was stupid and that also shouldn't be the way we judge this. - Yeah. - Well, I'm just trying to mix up these drafts, guys. - I really appreciate that. I just don't think that if you were like inspired by a piece of art, but not adapting it, that should be called unoriginal. - We all agree. - A lot of it-- - We all wish the category worked differently. - A lot of it doesn't. - "Black Swan" is like, they perform it. - Yeah, if you perform the thing in the movie, it doesn't make it an adaptation of the thing. - The only thing that's really hard is hitting a 100 mile an hour fastball. - But it's not-- - When you do it well, you get to be a legend forever. The same is true here. - That's the draft rule. - You may have to explain. - Sports Joe, get in there. - Thank you. - I'm a feminist. - CR's up. - Okay, let me just recap where I'm at just so I can get a good sense of it. 'Cause a lot of stuff's gone wrong. - Jackass is going. This is going really well, right? - It's going good. I like how the energy we discussed previously when we recorded today, it's like, it's gonna be super chill and normal. - Yeah. - So I need a franchise film. - What about you? - They need an original-- - Isn't there a part in "The Scarlet Letter" when they like, spell out their P's? - Wow. - Yeah, why don't we draft it too? - It's called "Pupper Neal"? - Yep, yep. - Is it "Pupper Nickel"? - Exactly. - Which one is it? I forgot. - Rob, do you buy plane tickets on your phone or on your computer? - I buy them on my computer. - Okay, so you're still one of us. - Unfortunately. - I get stressed doing it on my phone. - Yeah, of course. - I can't do it on my phone. - I don't trust it. - No, but that is a real millennial laptop generation. - There's a whole question about it. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - You can buy a serious purchase that's on the laptop. - Yeah. - Yeah, you gotta get it out. - Of course. - Don't trust the connection. Don't trust anything happening on the phone. - But I just wanted to make sure that we were in a safe space. Jack, how are you buying plane tickets? - Laptop. - Okay, good. - Phone is crazy. - Oh, interesting. - I mean, I agree. - One of us. - Jack's an old soul. - That's true. - Is that so? - Yeah. - I'll change my tickets on my phone after I've purchased them. - Well, they've set it up so you have to do it in their app once you are making, and don't even get me started on the upgrade stuff, but. - In franchise, I'm taking the "Twilight Saga: Eclipse." - Do you want to tell me once again what you're buying? - Yeah, Victoria is creating an army of baby vampires. - So that's Dakota. - Bella is seeking refuge with-- - Victoria is Dakota Fanning? - No, that's Bryce Dallas Howard. Dakota plays-- - Easy. - The Volturi. - The Volturi, yeah. - They're on the scene. - Jamie Campbell Bower is a Volturi. - Yeah, he's in there. - Is this the one where you think that they got the head cut off? - That's "Breaking Down Part One." - Yeah, that's "Breaking Down Part One." - That one rules. - That was awesome. - This was Jacob's glow up. He got school. - Oh, that's when he came through. - One night, they're on a mountain and he has to keep her warm with his-- - Wolfness? - His supine, lupine body heat? - Supine? - Maybe it's supine and lupine. - Supine and lupine. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Lupine body heat. - Supine and lupine. - Honestly, this is one of the things that I miss about the Arclight. The Arclight had that little cool bar, right? Me and Kalika would go-- - Get a stadium pour. - Yeah, we'd go, have a couple of drinks, and then we would go into Twilight. Twilight is fun. - Twilight kept the lights on in this town for a long time. - Sober. - We'd have a couple of drinks and go into Twilight? It is fucking amazing. - Okay, I'm gonna make a suggestion. Next time there's a big screening, a lot of these screenings we all go to together. - Right. - We get there at five, we hit up MacGuffin's. - And we go see Twilight instead. - We drink two cocktails. - Let's go. - I don't know if I can, I think I can pull that off tomorrow. - Oh, we're going tomorrow? - Yeah. - MacGuffin's? - And it's 7:30, it's a late start. - You guys are going to Century City? - Yes. - Oh, let's do it. - Yeah, okay. - Because we're gonna need a drink for that. But it is-- - Oh, man, man. - I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Oh, sisters are doing it by themselves. - For themselves. - For themselves. - It feels that way sometimes. - It's been five years that he's been saying sisters are doing it by themselves. - Yeah, I don't know why I can't get-- - But Supergirl written and directed by men, no? - True. - Funny how that worked out. - No, no, no, no, no. No, is it? - Yes. - Oh wow, that's fucked up. But that is, that's a tough one. I need to get on that. - Why are you pointing at Joe? - 'Cause Joe is my sister. She keeps me in the feminist, but look, that'll be fun. - It's not written by a man, but it is directed by a man. - That'll be fun, that'll be fun. And Twilight-- - Do you know any producers? - James Gale. - James Gale. - Why did I have to look? I know. - Five men, yeah. - Twilight was fun because you'd have those drinks. Man, she wanted to fuck him so bad. - Oh, yes, too. - She loved him. - Bella? - Bella. - Who's the him in question? Who are you talking about? - Edward. - Edward, okay. - But also Jacob, that's the whole thing. - Kind of. - Remember me? - Kind of, but when Edward would come on the screen, you would see that Jacob really couldn't. Jacob was just like, she was like. - He was running for third. - Edward literally sparkled. - It's true. - And the whole arc light would be full of people going crazy. It was actually a lot of fun. - Very Gale PETA. It was always PETA. - What is it? - Taylor Lautner. - Taylor Lautner. - And what's the-- - And he married a woman named Taylor. - Named Taylor. - That's right. - And her name is also Taylor Lautner. - And he dated Taylor Swift. - Yeah, what's the song? - It's like Madison Bumgarner dating Madison Bumgarner. - Which one is it? - It is exactly like that. - In the woods, da-na-na-na. - In the woods? - What's the Taylor Swift song? - Are we out of the woods? - No, that's Taylor. No, that's Harry Styles. - I know it is Harry Styles. - This one is slower. - That's when they had their snowmobile accident. - Enchanted December? Enchanted? No. - Enchanted to Meet You? - Can I just-- - I think it's called Holocene. - Enchanted to Meet-- - Yeah. - Twilight Saga: Eclipse was directed by David Slade. - Back to December is about Taylor Lautner. Nobody cares about David Slade's work. - Go for it. - Who's that? - David Slade directed 30 Days of Night. - Metalhead. - And Metalhead: Episode of Black Mirror. - Oh, yeah. - Metalhead is great. 30 Days of Night, I also fuck with. - Me too. - A shocking pick from C.R. on the fourth round. You're the best. - Okay, now we go to Van. - Franchise film, Legacy. - You already picked a franchise film. - Yeah, you already picked Iron Man 2. - Damn! - Iron Man 2. - But you can pick that in-- - Wild Card, Legacy. - Good news, I think it's Oscar nominated. - Well, if it's Oscar, I don't wanna do Oscar nominated. What are we doing? - Van's my guy. - What are you doing? - Oh, right. - Okay, so you know what? I'll change the whole pick, 'cause I'm-- - No, no, no, take it. You were taking a number of categories. - So I did franchise film already. What do I have left, Jack? - Oscar nominee. - We have like an hour to go. - Blockbuster. - Do we? - Blockbuster. - I have three more picks to make. - Oscar nominee. - Wild Card, Foreign, and Animated. - 'Cause I'm not gonna get home. - Blockbuster. - Oh, man. - And Blockbuster. - Those are the four. - I have Blockbuster. - The Owl City guy. - Yeah, okay, I'll take Tron Legacy and Blockbuster then. - Yeah. - Okay. - Which one? - Blockbuster, Tron Legacy. - Tron Legacy and Blockbuster. - I have to have it. - Okay. - 'Cause guess what? - I have to have it. - I have fun. - I liked it. - Like, guess what? I have fun. - I'll tell you something. - It's a really fun rewatch. - It's good. - At the end of a party. - I think this is when you put on Tron Legacy, when everyone's like-- - Kirsten Dunst. - It's only now? - Mm-hmm. - It's great. - Who else do you mean? Is it Michael Sheen anymore? - Michael Sheen, Grant Hedlund, remember? - Garrett Hedlund. - Garrett Hedlund. - A real potato person. - Yeah. - Yeah, that guy. Where's he at now? - I don't know. I can see it. But he did date Kiki for a while. - He did. - So that's why. - Oh, of course. - But it was after this. - That was the biggest shine on him. - It was after this. - But then remember he was in that Peter Pan movie? - Which one? - No, I don't remember that. - Which Peter Pan? - That's exactly the point. - No, I don't remember him. - Oh, I don't remember that. - Oh dear. - It was like a book prequel. - I remember Troy. - Remember Triple Frontier? - Of course. - 'Cause I do. - Vividly, yeah. - That shit is the bomb. - Are you kidding how much we love Triple Frontier on this podcast? - No one else likes it. - He and I share a Twix. - We love it. - Lost Control. - I love that. - You don't like Triple Frontier? - I do, I'm a big fan. - Triple Frontier. - I'm on the record about that. - That is one of the best scenes ever of like Delta Force, Navy SEAL guys stalking each other, call out your kills, identify, I love that Troy. - The Cinema of J.C. Shandor, followed closely by Kraven the Hunter. - You gotta do that. - It's a tough one. - I like that movie. - Okay, good pick. was okay. Who's up now, Mal? Rhino. Rob. I like that movie. I like that movie. Rhino. That's what I said. I liked it. I like to have fun at the movies. I will be selecting I Am Love. You fucked Amanda again? Let me just say something to you now. Okay. It's a little bit like your single white female at this point. And that's okay. And that's fine. And I'd love to influence some real Jennifer Jason Leigh. And that's okay. Let's start calling Rob Hedy for the rest of the show. Can I ask you a question? When did you draft MacGruber? I can only be myself. Hide your spiked high heels. Doesn't this kind of also show you the safe space Sean and I create for you here usually? You don't give a fuck about I Am Love. Have you ever seen it? It's Almodovar, right? No. So get out of here. It's Lucas Guadagnino. Speak on it, Rob. Since you love it so much. Which category? I'm going to take it in I'm going to take it in for an animator. Are you going to put Artificial up on your Instagram? Will you save that film? Are you going to distribute Artificial on your own dime? Isn't it kind of precious and beautiful though that Rob loves these movies? That's what I'm saying. Take it as a compliment. It's a great film. It's a wonderful movie. I've never even heard of it. It's beautiful and very sad. Precious and beautiful? Yeah, it's kind of precious and beautiful. The same movies that Amanda loves, Rob loves. That's what's great about movies. He's a totally regular man. Definitely. You don't have to say it like that. But they, you know, they connect. I think this movie is actually incredible. I think it has a lot to say about secrets and family and the European urge to bang your son's best friend. Who else will speak to that in our time? You do seem prepared to talk about it, but I also feel like you are unabombing her. Here's what it is. I have a piece of Amanda's hair and I'm picking here is a question. How many times in your life have you Googled the actor who plays not the son's best friend, but the son? Oh, you got it for the son. Yeah. Flavio? He has not been in another. He has not done anything else. He's so handsome. Yeah. He is quite handsome. Really very handsome. There is a moment in this movie where Tilda Swinton has long hair and she gets a haircut to get the Tilda Swinton and it's like Thor picking up the hammer. Like it is a super heroic moment. Oh my God. That I found incredibly captivating. I love wonderful movie. Really very beautiful. Have you ever been to Milan? Anyone here? Milan? I haven't. I wish. I'd like to go. Not a soul. You guys haven't been? Is this not just American Beauty Rescued? What? How dare you? Are you saying that this is what did you pick this in? I was thinking a foreign animated foreign language animated. Is it in English? It is not. It is in primarily in Italian. Tilda speaking straight Italian some Russian. She is married into like a very wealthy Milanese family. Yeah. And doesn't meet with their standards and so then she meets a chef and they have a lot of sex while bumblebees swirl around. They do. It's a great field. That was kind of upsetting if I'm being honest. Yeah. Exactly. Wow. That would be a film to watch. Talented and versatile performer. Yeah. Bumblebee visits Milan and fucks Tilda Swinton. Just real quick. That's exciting. Real quick. Everybody here has seen this movie. I have. I have. Oh okay. Sorry. Yes. Part of the desire trilogy. Yeah. It's Luca Guadagnino. It's like his then yeah his breakthrough and then he made Call Me By Your Name and Challengers and Artificial. This is a real time for Tilda too. Artificial. Yeah. Which I would like to see. All right Amanda. All right. Well that was a kick in the dick. Would you have taken that? Would that have been your pick here? Yeah. Yeah. Well no because I didn't I didn't know that his research was going that deep but I guess it is. It's fine. I guess this will push me to do foreign language animated now and I'm going to take Dogtooth. The Yorgos Lanthimos film that It's the only good one. Of the Yorgos that you haven't seen of any of the other ones. I saw some of them. What did you see? The dead the dead deer one. What's that one called? That's it. That was the title. No. I saw The Lobster and I saw You're not a fan of The Lobster. I like The Lobster. No you saw Poor Things didn't you? I skipped through it on Hulu. What? Jumped around for the sex scenes? Well they are powerful. I could see you like you don't know Jack liked that a lot. Yeah I don't like it. No Begonia? No. And you didn't do Oh yeah Begonia was pretty good. I went to the end of Begonia to see what people were talking about. Begonia gave us up. I thought Begonia was good though. I liked Begonia. This is the secret behind Chris being able to talk about any subject on any podcast. He's like I clicked it. I got it. I get it. You just watch scenes on Twitter and then you're like I saw that. I still think his his most iconic version of this is that he skips the scenes with the hobbits when he watches The Lord of the Rings. It's incredibly efficient to really watch them. If you're doing that then literally nothing is sacred when you're going through a movie. I kind of respect that. So I respect the fuck out of it because those guys are fucking annoying. Those guys are annoying man. Different hobbits. Sam and Frodo that I am like you guys start the same and end the same and just walk a lot. I'm here for Boromir. I'm here for Striker. Skirmelion? Skameleon? The Simirelion. The Simirelion. The Simirelion. What is it called? How do you say it? The Book of Eli. He's very He's very excited that they're doing this. The Simirelion? I am like what did you pick? Simirelion. Did you pick anything? I picked Dogtooth. Dogtooth is an amazing movie. That's a great movie. That's a good movie. That's a good movie. Do you think Dogtooth is? I like the work of Yorgos Lanthimos but much like Greenberg Dogtooth is on the more fucked up spectrum which is where I like him to reside. I appreciated poor things but it was a little too you know whimsical costume drama. You got this girly for me. So Dogtooth is messed up. She does got this. Do you think Dogtooth is a good girl dad movie? No. Oh it's a terrible one. No. It's very bad. It's extremely bad. He doesn't let her out of the house. But he's not making any more films so you're good. Now he's just doing photography so you know I got I got the last good one. I'm once again worried you're going to take what I want. What does Boromir do? He dies he has hubris he thinks he can hold the ring and then he gets arrows. Kiss me every time. Give them a kiss. I think at this point I'm probably just going to take stuff I really enjoy. As opposed to Inception. That's right. What have we been doing here? I think you guys misunderstand what this exercise is. Do we? This is not an expression of your life. It's an expression of Rob trying to take strong pics that you also love. I guess Rob understands it. Everybody else doesn't understand it. You're the guy who sincerely like Jackass 3D. Rob do you use the real will? I don't use the should I be using the real will? I'm going to start outbidding you. I'll tell you what in Blockbuster You don't bid on the real will just so you know. This is fun. This is riveting audio content. What do you think I'm going to do? I'm not going to say it. Mallory thinks she's in a telepathic conversation He's not going to do what you think he's going to do. I actually think he is going to do what I want to do. No he's not. I say we let him do it. I should have done it honestly but Rob got it in my head so unless you want to do it. I'm not going to say it until after you make I want to see now. There's no way you're going to take this movie. I'm taking Tangle. Oh wow. So close to what I was worried you were going to do but not the thing I was worried you were going to do. Tangled is a Disney animated telling of Rapunzel. Manny Moon. They're making a live action version of it. Get excited. You're going to have to watch it because it's going to be live action now. I'll tell you a little bit about it. He does not watch the live actions. How many Disney movies have you Chris Ryan seen in your lifetime? I've seen the classics. I've seen a bunch. Fantasia. Tangled is a little bit overlooked. Because in this period Disney was down a little bit. Little Mermaid? Yes. Please. I just picked a movie for Christ's sake. No one cares. No one cares what Disney movies Chris hasn't seen Amanda. What are you talking about? I think more people do care. They do not. Chris can't think of five Disney movies off the top of his head right now if you had a gun to his head. I can do. Is this like a challenge? Go. Aladdin? Jackass is not a Disney movie. Aladdin? Oh I love Aladdin. Does Star Wars count? No. Have you seen clips of any other animated films recently? Oh my God. Beauty and the Beast? Like a Moana clip maybe came across you know. Aladdin 2 Return of Jafar was right there. It was right there for you. Pride of Zimba. Prince of Peace. You haven't seen the last one. I'll fuck with Prince of Peace. Have you seen Cinderella? Yeah Beauty and the Beast. When did you see Cinderella? I mean which one are we talking about? It's just remarkable. Tell us more about Tangled. Tangled is under rated. Tangled is good. It's really good. It's fine. Yeah it's like a six out of ten. I took my little sister to see this movie when she was nine years old. She was Oh that's cute. You should have lied with that. She was staying over with me when we were living in New York and Orchard Street? We went to on Orchard. Yep. No it might have been might have been Brooklyn. I might have moved to Brooklyn by this point but we went to the AMC in Kips Bay and went to go see this and had an amazing time and then I had the nice opportunity to watch it with my daughter years later and now Rapunzel one of her goats. Mandy Moore very good. Songs are pretty underrated. I see the light. I have crushed a karaoke many times. What's your story here with Crushing Tangled? I think it's a mediocre Disney animated I think this is straight up better than Frozen to be honest with you. As a non-Frozen person I'm kind of with you. The songs aren't nearly as good. I agree but the movie Frozen is not. Like, don't be funny. Yeah, come on. But it's only the song. that's what I'm saying the movie is Frozen the movie is I'm with you Rob I feel the same way I've watched Frozen many times do you think he's going to change his mind are you worried what no don't worry I won't talk about a Tangled no no no I'm relieved I'm thrilled okay Mal you can take what you like I would like you to sing one song from Tangled do it Zachary Levi deeply unproblematic Zachary Levi yeah great guy he wasn't back then I don't think he was cool he was like yeah we didn't know he was Chuck yeah it was Chuck we didn't know yet what's can someone hum a tune from it so I can pick it up I've only seen it the one time took my niece and her friends to see it same time that's beautiful not a movie any of us were inclined to pick so nobody can help you here I guess tough I feel good about it it's a cute little movie though it's good I tend to do Tangled songs in a different key than the original it's not fucking Frozen she fights with her hair that's pretty cool Harry Potter what are you so worried about no I'm going to pick the animated movie that I thought you were going to pick in Blockbuster How to Train Your Dragon a stone cold classic I'm not a big fan of that movie what oh my god that movie's amazing we're just taking turns kicking each other in the nuts now that movie's phenomenal wait How to Train Your Dragon is Draft Turn and Sour I think that's when it happened that's when you soured How to Train Your Dragon is just genuinely like a wonderful film I have a little toothless plush that I love Hiccup is an icon the story of cinema and of the hero's journey I would say you know the idea that you think you have to live life a certain way and fit a certain archetype and form and be big and strong and then no you can form your own bond and they did that with each other and they saved their community you can be a nerd and create Facebook and it's great there is a little bit of a theme in my list I will say I just I love I genuinely love How to Train Your Dragon so that's my pick in Blockbuster and then on the turn here I have two contenders here that I like a lot that are available for Oscar nominee I'm going to take Winter's Bone a movie I love really love and not only was that a big Oscar movie and an excellent film that year but it kind of like announced J-Law as an Oscar force for a stretch of time that movie is really upsetting really harrowing full of wonderful performances and such a like utterly specific sense of place and family strife and I think I love it it's a wonderful film Debra Granik what happened was it like there's extra whatever happened with her film she made a follow-up film with Ben Foster about a man living in the wild with his daughter oh yeah amazing I'm trying to remember the name of it that came out in 2018 Leave No Trace which is a great great film but she hasn't made a feature in a long time okay Winter's Bone very very good movie John Hawks is unreal he is Winter's Bone was kind of a deal it became a deal yeah it's a great film right there at the end it was a big announcement I mean she had only really done the what was the sitcom she was on the southern comedian who's she played the daughter the Bill Ingvall show Bill Ingvall thank you then she pulls out the red dress and that was it yeah remember that joint I remember yeah I sure do I remember it yep then she's there yep then she's everywhere and then she's not she's not okay I've got franchise film foreign language animated and wild card left to go okay I'm gonna take in foreign language animated there's so many good ones here yeah there are there really are I'll take Bong Joon-ho's Mother god damn it good one I mean that was never gonna come back to me which is a great thriller about what a mother will do for her son and like a movie that I did not think was very funny the first time I saw it because I don't I didn't know as much about Bong's films when I first saw it and now having seen his entire body of work I think it's very very funny it was an incredible moment of exultation at the end of this movie on a bus ride it was like one of the best things you'll ever see and this is a great one so yeah really good pick very good great movie so I have franchise blockbuster and wild card left and franchise and blockbuster are the good stuff got taken away early so there are a couple moves but I have to figure out whether I want to be what kind what kind of cute do I want to be you know but I mean both at this point you have to be cute we're not picking from the the top of the heap but I don't know if I want to really go for it or whether all right so blockbuster let's let's talk about blockbuster here's what's left Alice in Wonderland Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows part one Despicable Me Shrek Forever After The Karate Kid Clash of the Titans Grown Ups Little Fockers Megamind The King's Speech and The Last Airbender yeah Amanda you love Minions well sure but so here is the question and I understand and that starts the Minions Despicable Me but it's where do I take it you know and what's left over for me yeah Franchise or Blockbuster that's not the question the question is what is the other one now I have like a little bit of a franchise not cheat but creativity in my back pocket but then you've got Rob yeah that's true I will take Sex and the City too I will do even I'm even I'm not going to take that one though I do think I saw it in theaters definitely let's see you know what I'm going to do it I'll do it and I'll do Despicable Me and Blockbuster I love the Minions I think they're genuinely really funny and we've had a lot of discussion about what comedy is and is not on this podcast but the Minions just shouting out Dua Lipa lyrics while bopping around and doing physical comedy is to me Amanda Dobbins funny and that's what this is about the Minions are not characters they're not characters that I thought would still be in my life now yeah even with the 101 freeway in Los Angeles they're on the 101 and I feel like I work with the the Tulsi Gabbard's of the Minions the Minionette yeah Tulsi Gabbard I think they show great creativity and comedic ingenuity so that's where I am the rest of it grew whatever you know but Minions are barely in Despicable Me well it's where they start that's true so shout out Minions there's a lot of grew I know what did we get this year Minions and Jennifer Lawrence what did we get here for cinema um okay who's next Rob Mahoney I will take Black Swan and Oscar alright that's fine you didn't take it I didn't take it was not selected as of yet um what's your relationship to ballet not profound don't chalamet yourself here be careful no I respect the medium I just see myself never took classes never took classes okay not opposed to it maybe that's another act for me do it for content put it on the gram I don't think I'm gonna be doing that he's too busy broadcasting Luca Guadagnino's on it oh daddy see that's what I'm about uh honestly I just see myself in Natalie Portman's journey in this movie I just think our lives parallel a lot actually I do that yeah I see this draft paralleled in that movie the way that you are doubling Amanda in eerie and unsettling ways yeah okay um say Mila Kunis's name this what a pod for her this movie which did not go drafted when we did the 2010 draft sure six years ago when it came out I loved it I absolutely loved it I thought it was brilliant I was very very pro Aronofsky I've not seen it since it came out and I never think about it never think about it oh yeah do you really we have anxiety you have anxiety you don't think about not enough apparently no I don't know why I think when I first saw it I realized it would be like a one or two watcher yeah oh it's not pleasant it's unsettling it's like waffles are like that no I'm not really watching it but I I think about it a lot it lingers yeah Swan Lake is very present in my household with my daughter in fact we bought a Swan Lake like play along book this weekend but it never even crossed my mind yeah well now Natalie ended up marrying that guy right she married no I think you're thinking of J-Law no I feel like she was married to a ballet guy she was Benjamin Millipie yeah they met on this he was the choreographer he was the choreographer yeah he was the choreographer yeah I went to something that they had did he scam her he was there no some other things happened allegations yeah untoward acts yeah and I think she's now having a baby with somebody else because they divorced me oh yeah you did draft Tron Legacy or you didn't I did okay and now it's your turn again Oscar nomination do I have that category left mm-hmm you do yes yes it's a gift shop mm-hmm incredible movie that's a good one love it love it I love it now you can't say I liked it anymore so you gotta love it loved it I'm only going with movies obviously they're movies but some of these movies I honestly didn't see them you saw this in theaters I did yeah I did like once the shit started to like pop and like once again the arc light if I'd have been in Baton Rouge are you Banksy huh are you Banksy what do you mean no I'm not Banksy you think Van would not take credit for every single thing I actually kind of think he would or like that he would hide behind it it would never reveal it to anybody if I was Banksy yeah there are other secrets about me you guys don't know that's what I'm saying that I've done but no no one's listening we're in the third hour that movie ended up being like a big deal you had to go see it and I went and saw it and I was blown away I didn't really know as much about the entire Banksy thing, but I was really blown away by it. What's Banksy's status right now? Like, what's going on? He's in the Department of Defense. I believe he was unmasked. Yeah, revealed, actually. And was maybe facing some criminal charges. Banksy, for what? Painting on the walls. Oh, I thought about defacing public property. That's good. We can live with that. Do you feel he should be in prison, Chris? No, I'm almost distracted by Amanda. Like, browsing? Because she doesn't have, like, any ad blockers on. So it's just, like, crazy fucking pop-ups. I asked you to stop fucking looking at Mike. Let me use the internet in peace. I said goodbye to the cookies. And now I've learned that Banksy's name is Robin Gunningham, but we've apparently known this as far back as 2008 if you read the mail on Sunday. I'm reading CNN.com, okay? Let's see how you have it picked. In foreign film, I'm going to take On Sunday. So I'd like to talk about this. Oh, no, I Googled it again, and it is eligible. I'm sorry. I retract. I retract my interruption. Danny Villeneuve's 2010 film about poison inheritance. It's a theme that I think runs through a lot of his films and can even be seen in Dune. And this one has got one of the most remarkable, unsettling, chilling endings of any movie you will ever see. Watched it last night for the first time. I had a great time. Did you really? Amazing movie. Oh. It's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it hurts. Really? I saw this here in theaters as part of Bleak Week. When the reveal happens that you're talking about, it is like the oxygen got sucked out of the room. Yeah, yeah. And it never comes back and, I don't know, call your moms. Changes your relationship to swimming pools for a while. It certainly does. I did a Q&A with Ari Aster after a screening of Hereditary at Bleak Week, and the film that was happening immediately after that was that screening of On Sunday that you're talking about. And I met a guy in between screenings, and he was like, I'm not leaving. I'm staying for On Sunday. And I was like, that's quite a day, sir. Hereditary. On Sunday. Oh, my God. That's a tough one. Great pick. Very, very good movie. Another movie that is, that's kind of a one and done for me. I don't revisit that one. Did you consider taking an animated film? No. Given your passion for the form? I didn't. No? I don't think I had one even on the long list here. So, Ciara, you got another pick? No, it's Joe. Joe. Joe, excuse me. Joe, you got two picks. In foreign language slash animated, I will be taking Beautiful, starring Javier Bardem. Our guy. Our guy. It's Cape Fear Summer. I love this movie. This is a really tough watch, but this is like, this is like something he does pretty soon after his Oscar win, and I think it's like a really interesting post-Oscar win choice in Oritu. That's my choice for foreign language film. Okay. Then in Oscar nominee, I will take Inside Job. Inside Job is a documentary about the financial crisis. Great movie. Really good pick. That's a good pick. Don't sound so surprised. That's not how I meant it. It's just like, ooh, Inside Job, you're trapped in. Matt Damon, right? Yes. That's right. Charles Ferguson. This is also, we've hit a stretch of deeply depressing films. Yeah, this is a. In consecutive order here. Boy. On Sunday into Beautiful, into Inside Job. Yeah. That's a dark week. That's a dark core. Yeah. The air has kind of gone out of the room. Inside Job feels like a billion years ago in documentary where I was like, this film could make change. If people watch this, they would realize that the world could be different. Yeah, it's like, we watch Social Network and Inside Job. We're good. It was really a time when we were like, wow, we're going to fix global warming. We're going to fix all of it. And guess what? We didn't. No, we didn't. We didn't do that. Whose fault? Was that our fault? Did we blow it? I'm going to blame the boomers. Not our fault. They didn't get out of the way. Do you take any responsibility? For what? The state of the world? Mm-hmm. A little bit. It's kind of getting to that time. Yeah. Where like, I could have done something. Yeah. I could have ran for city council. I chose TMZ. I chose not to. You should. Do you think you'd be elected? I think it's too late. White male. What's your platform? Do you think you're too tall? Do you think you're brown hair? Do you think that you're a hinge profile? What's happening? That's what America is looking for, unfortunately, in this dark time. Would we be in the same city council seat if we ran against each other? I don't think we share. Now, I'll say this. This is a question. The question is, if you two run. On the same ticket or against each other? Against each other. Fuck that same ticket shit. I mean, Chris would win, obviously. Chris wins? For sure. Chris, God bless you. Chris wins for sure if you guys run against each other. What if you have to run against Rob? I'm losing. Rob is tall. You already did. Who's the face of the ringer? Who was it? Who won? It was him. Then Mallory's the answer. She's our councilwoman now. Public office is not for me. Okay. Then Chris is our councilwoman. We're councilmen now. Chris would win the vote. Yeah, I have some skeletons, though. Do you want to workshop it right here in real time? What are your policies? The thing is, is nobody knows more about your skeletons than I do. Who would you invite to be in your council? If we were to run against each other. And we know that you would do it. Would you mudsling against Ciara? Would you mudsling against him? Win at all costs. So you wouldn't. I would never betray Chris. Mr. 6 out of 10 first pick would definitely sling mudsling. The rest of you guys can fuck off with that. But I would never betray Chris. My platform would be, let's just have the war. The World Cup every day. Forever. I mean, it's not bad. I think that would make everything better, honestly. I don't think city council can really do that. I'm Mr. World Cup after seeing these videos. I know. Would that fire be out if you were in charge? Okay. For sure. I would put it out. Would have never started. Yeah. You have a pick here. Is it me or did you? Joanna, two films. I will take an original. Where did it go? I had it and I was like, great idea, Chris. Chris. Sorry. It's fine. I'm just scrolling lists of movies. In original, I'm taking Brooklyn's Finest. The Antoine Fuqua movie. It's original. Stars Richard Gere, Ethan Hawke, Wesley Snipes. What do you think I'm about to say? I liked it. Awesome. I liked it. It was really good. I liked it. Guys in different cities doing things? No lie. Yeah. One of Ethan Hawke's best movies. Yeah. Whoa. Yeah. I believe he's married to Lily Taylor in this film. What else happens? He's corrupt. Richard Gere is being corrupted. Cheadle, Wesley Snipes, undercover situation there. It's just a really solid six out of ten cop movie. Six out of ten. Well, that's where you should take a six out of ten. It's a movie that you thought you could tell that they thought it was going to be a much better movie. They thought it was going to be Training Day. Yeah. And it turned out it wasn't. But it was still. Ethan was cooking. Great job. Thanks. Rob, what category did you take? Oh, there. Oh, franchise film was MacGruber? Yeah. It has a spinoff TV series. Yeah. Or streaming series. I tried to take Unstoppable and Original, and apparently it happened once. The movie wouldn't exist without the incident. Okay. I think they would have happened upon that plot line eventually, even if it hadn't happened. Well, it would have been on in 2010. Okay. Rob? Is it me? It's Van. It's Van. Okay. Van. Van. Oh, Wild Card. Yeah. Wild Card time. Okay. I'm like scared. Due Date. Yes. I love Due Date. I like Due Date. Dude, it's great. Which one is? I mean, I remember. What's Due Date again? It's Robert Downey Jr. and Zach Galifianakis. And it's like. Oh, right. You like the hangover? Yeah. And the dog. It's like, what if Zach Galifianakis was doing the same thing in another movie? But Downey's here. But Downey's here. It's Iron Man. It's Iron Man. Them Galifianakis together. Hijinks. I wouldn't saw it. Isn't McBride in this? Isn't he in this in Due Date? Yes, he is. As Western Union employee Lonnie. Yeah. And he's like, I got reservations at Chili's later. It's fun. Funny. I liked it. Very fun. That's it. Due Date. 49 movies. They can't all be winners. It's almost like there were 49 movies for us to draft. I don't think I remember this one. Did I not see this? Hey, man. That bitch came and went. Okay. Yeah. I think it made some money, though. No, it did make some money. It was a little disappointing because Downey was like, I'm back. Iron Man. Iron Man 2. And here's what I'm going to do with it. I'm going to do Due Date and The Judge. And we were like, this is what you're going to do with this? Well, The Judge, you could tell he thought. He wanted that Oscar. I'm about to get on stage, man. Robert Duvall dies in this bitch. You could tell that he thought he was going to. And then some of the other choices. Sherlock Holmes. Sherlock Holmes. The first one is serviceable. The second one was bad. Game of Shadows. Game of Shadows. Game of Shadows. Now, Sean Connery. I'm not going to do Sean Connery. If he were Sherlock Holmes in that film, I would have enjoyed that. If he had been Zach Galifianakis in Due Date, do you think that would have been a better movie? Do you think Sean Connery could see Chris Ryan in a. Did you see The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen? Of course I did. Of course. Come on. You guys like it? It was not released in 2010. I liked it. You liked it? I'm starting to lose track of who's drafted. Well, it's because you're like a real Dorian Gray guy. LXG. You've always been real Dorian Gray. The real Dorian Gray. Actually, that movie was the start of it. It was Rob's turn to draft. In comedy, I will be selecting Another Year. I'm having a personal Mike Lee summer. This has been a huge blind spot for me for a long time. I'm starting to rectify it. I'm just all out here drinking tea and having overdue emotional conversations. This is a good one. That's a good pick. Really good movie. Honestly, I was shocked at how much it was like in Fargo if it was just Marge and her husband having people over for dinner all the time. If that was the whole plot of the movie, fucking loved it. Do you think he's aura farming right now? Do you think he's like, look me up on Letterboxd? 'cause I'm Rob, I'm just picking. Can't a guy just pick movies he likes while these guys pick for flicks? lose here. He can just taste flex, which we could all taste flex. He did also pick MacGruber. True, but even MacGruber is considered a cult favorite. Alright. I think there's nothing wrong with it. I think you're picking great movies. He's like, you're shaming me for picking a good movie. You're picking great films? There's nothing wrong with it. I think people who listen to this think if I were on here, I too would taste flex, but nobody cares about that. Wow. When the fucking lights are on, and Mal's interrupting me. Someone said Easy A is based on the Scarlet Letter, which it's not. That's right. You have to take Brooklyn's Finest. You gotta pick train movies. Mike Lee, but go fuck yourself. I have to take Brooklyn's Finest. Okay, Amanda. So I have Franchise and Wild Card left, and in Franchise, I thought it was gonna be cute, but then I guess. I thought you took Despicable Minions. That was in Blockbuster? Oh, sorry. Though it turns out that I could have just flipped them, but I didn't realize that Harry Potter is still on the board, so I guess I'll do that. It's fine. Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 1, which I've seen. Let's talk about the decision to split them up. Good? I mean, essential, honestly. I think for, yeah. Frankly, it probably should have happened sooner. I'm a fan of Part 1. That's one of the better movies, even though it was not one of the better reviewed movies. I remember liking both of the final two chapters. I mean, it's emotional, and because. Some of the most heart-wrenching moments are in that. Yes, exactly, and because they split it up, like, all of the good stuff is in Part 1, and then Part 2, it's a little bit of, like, Wicked Wicked 2 situation. Yeah. I mean, listen. I get it. You choose him. Is that from Wicked? How would Chris respond to having a Horcrux locket on him, what do you think, based on what you've seen today? So, Harry Potter? Anything? I've seen the Alfonso Cuarón one, and I've seen. Yeah, that's good. One day, I was at a bar, and it was on on mute, but I don't know which movie it was. What happened in it? What happened? They got to school. It was, like, when they first got to school. Okay, oh, okay, so that's probably the first one. The first time? So they were little? Yeah. Okay. Is saying I've only seen the Cuarón one, Aura Farming? Yes. Yes, definitely. I didn't say I don't Aura Farm. I was saying. It's a real, it takes one to know one situation. It's also strange now, in retrospect, that I was at a bar that was playing the first Harry Potter. Like, why? Yeah, what the fuck was going on? Was it, like, Christmas? At least for the first four movies, they go. Then that's probably why. Oh, because. If it was Christmas. It was probably just, like, they put on a family and they're, like. What happens to Harry at the end? Of Harry Potter? You don't know? No, what happens to him? He becomes a cop. Well, honestly true. To me, the motherfucker already was a cop. He does become an Aura. He does officially become a cop with a badge. What happens to him? Seriously, though. He becomes a cop. That's not a joke. Yeah. Harry Potter becomes a police officer? He becomes an Auror, which is a cop. A wizard cop. A wizard cop. I'll do all of this shit. But that's in part two. In part one, he just has to face his demons. And then he shows up in Brooklyn's fine. He really becomes a cop-a-roo? He becomes an Auror. This is not a bit. All of that shit for some cop-a-ganda, man. That's nuts, Harry Potter. I didn't know that. Consider the source. He didn't die? Well, he sacrifices himself. I'll send you a chapter. It's called The Forest Again. I'll be honest, that part of the mythology is a little rickety. That thing is. Jesus Cop. Goes to King's Cross Station. Jesus Cop. We have to explain Horcrux to you, and it's not. There's no time. One character. Jesus and police. That part doesn't land. There's another chapter involving another character that really does land in part two, and that should have been the end of it, but no one. Princess Tale? I think so. I mean, is that the. Sounds messy. Yeah, I mean, that's like the real conclusion of it, but no one asked me for edits. Anyway. Andy bought the fixed-end ship. I said he's got it sewn up. He's got it. You think Andy's changing the ending? Andy's gonna be like, excuse me. Does it work? All right. I'm out. I was gonna do Step Up 3D, but. You still can. You have one more pick. You have a wild card coming up, so. It's okay. Oh, I saw it in theaters. Like six out of ten? What'd you say? No, it's like, you know, I like it, and I would prefer that John M. Chu kept making Step Up movies to whatever he was doing. Step Up 3D and Step Up 2 The Streets? Yes. Both fine films. Step Up 2 The Streets, right? Step Up 2 The Streets was great, and I also enjoyed Step Up Revolution, which I believe was cool. A little bit. Diminishing returns on Revolution for me. Step Up 2 The Streets saw in theaters with, like, 15 Granlin employees, and we were like, this is Sama. The original Step Up was legitimately one of those moments where I was like, you know what I mean? It was almost like the cutting edge to where I was like, yeah, I'm gonna be fucking with this movie forever. Yeah. Of course. I liked it. One, two, excellent. Three, 3D. Do you watch the cutting edge with your mom? Yeah. Topic. Topic. Then you gotta do Morning Glory. I, yeah, I don't know it. Well, I'm just. We've been doing Harrison Ford Sundays. Well, okay. Wonderful. So there you go. Three, yeah. He's in Morning Glory. Did we make that clear? Yeah, that's what they said. So we'll do it next Sunday. We'll do Harrison Ford on Sunday. Mm-hmm. Who's picking it? Did you guys do Captain America Brave New World yet? Not yet. Harrison Ford Sundays? No. Red Hulk? We did Patriot Games, A Clear Present Danger. Yep. Oh, Jack Ryan Sundays. Yeah. Clear Present Danger rules. This past Sunday, Air Force. Air Force One. Nice. Okay. Get off my plane. So some real. So you did geopolitical Harrison Ford? Okay. Will you do Frantic? Well, I said that next Sunday it was gonna be Witness, and then, and then. I said that next Sunday it was gonna be Witness, but I think it's gonna be Morning Glory now. We've been doing Harrison Ford. Can I put something on your radar? What? Locked in. Hanover Street? Witness, one of the best movies ever made. Frantic is worth a watch. Witness, Frantic, Working Girls, the late 80s. Remember when you and I watched Frantic for the first time and we're just texting screenshots back and forth? Yeah. Back and forth to each other? I mean, he snorts cocaine in a bathroom stall in that movie. He sure does. If you're not gonna text your friends about that, why have a phone? Why watch movies? I'll put Blade Runner on. Wow. 15 minutes, my mom was knocked the fuck out. Knocked out by like how great it was. Maybe she needed the voiceover, you know? Yeah, she was fucking done. She might need a theatrical. Yeah. She was like, I can't do this one, son. That's quite sad. How big is it? I have a pick. I can't believe this happened. I didn't even put this down on my board, but I realized for franchise film, I was taking Insidious, which is the first installment in a long-running horror series that continues on this year. Insidious, colon, Into the Further, directed by James Wan. Huge breakout hit. Really solid horror movie. Did it on the rewatchable some years ago. Our homies, Patrick Wilson and Rose Byrne, friends of the pod, never met either one of them. Love their work. Incredible stuff that they are doing. Is it like Rosen Summer? Yeah, second Patrick Wilson film this year. Here's the thing, it's always Patrick Wilson Summer. You could tell me that Patrick Wilson's net worth was like $800 million. I was going to say, didn't he just get so much money now? I think he had both of us. From Conjuring and everything. I mean, I'm happy for him. He did direct the most recent installment of the Insidious franchise. These movies are good. The demon appearing behind, is it behind Rose Byrne when they're having the conversation at the table? Yeah. That's the real shit. Why are they in every movie? I don't know. Who are they in the movies? I've never seen any of these. Who are they? I watched The Devil. They're Josh and Renee Lambert. Why are they in every one? Are they like Ghostbusters? Who are they? Patrick Wilson and Rose, they're a married couple who are being haunted by this demon. Oh. I don't know why. Am I thinking of The Conjuring? The Conjuring. Yes, they are demon hunters. Where he and Vera Farmiga. Vera Farmiga are in that one. So that's a different one, yeah. And then they also, but they go around, they're Ghostbusters in that one, basically. Does Patrick Wilson do any theater anymore? They're paranormal investigators. I'm sure he does. She's like a medium. She has a set. Have you heard about it? But Insidious is not connected to that. Patrick Wilson. Same director. James Wan is the director and producer of both of the films. Oh, yeah. This is the one where, okay, so they're in the house and they're looking around as ghosts everywhere. Like the third row of the Tony's is here. I've seen clips. Well, yeah. No, I mean, he has a storied career, but he doesn't use that magical voice anymore. in the third row, actually. Oh. Okay, Patrick Wilson. He doesn't do any more theater. Even though he has all the money in the world. He's kind of the man when you think about it, though. That's your pick. I don't have to think about it that hard. It's true. How did you describe him? He's a producer on The Lost Boys, I'm learning. Speaking of Jay Kelly, incredible five-minute flex on Patrick Wilson. Unbelievable. And he's so good and the casting is so delightful. He's not the man in that you wouldn't think about it, but when you think about it, he's the man. Came up an hour ago. I think about it all the time. According to playbill.com, the last time he was on Broadway was in The Normal Heart in 2010. Oh, I love The Normal Heart. I saw it. It was great. But that's 16 years ago. Damn. I'm glad we brought him over. Remember that Gap commercial with Claire Danes? Less stage. I think about that commercial all the time. Really great. Yeah, he's from Gap Castings. And then there's, it's great stuff. They should re-release those Gap Castings. Equally Charming, Hard Candy. Remember when he was in Girls? Sure do. Great episode, yeah. That was awesome. Memorable episode. If you want to just list Patrick Wilson being hot in movies, Remember when he was in The Phantom of the Opera? Sure. Remember when he was in Little Children? Yes, I do. That was tough. I remember that. I do. I'm ready. We were just talking about how we feel. Forever hold your peace. You just gotta drive. You just gotta jump in. Yeah, just go. Alright, I'm ready to make my final two picks. My remaining two categories are foreign language slash animated and wild card. I'm excited by both the movies I get to pick. I will be taking a foreign language movie now in that category. I thought Chris was going to take this as high as possibly the second round. No joke. I will be taking a profit. You love that movie. I do. I thought you were going to take that. I'm really surprised it fell this far. Admittedly, I don't know This is a loaded foreign language year - Well, I confirmed it was on Sean's Letterboxd and the US release was Cannes 2009. Yeah, 2009 into 2010. For the record, Animated Foreign Language was also a category that we did in the previous 2010 draft, and you selected it in that category. Yeah, you love that movie. I'm honestly shocked that you didn't pick it. You're always changing. We're Brooklyn's finest guy now. I mean, this is a prison mob under my wing crime movie. It's amazing. The fact that Christian Ticket is astonishing, but yeah, wonderful performance. Great movie. So that's my Foreign Language Animated pick. And then in Wild Card, I'm going to take I'm wondering if maybe people don't like this movie as much as I do. I'm about to find out, I guess. I'm astonished it's still available. Well, I had it. I'll just tell you guys, I had this seventh overall on my board. This was the movie I referenced earlier that I was almost going to take when I ended up taking Winter's Bone. Maybe people don't like this movie. I love it. The kids are all right. I love that movie. It's a great Ruffalo performance. It's a great Julianne Moore performance. Hutcherson Hive, always, obviously. It's so similar to Black Swan for me when it came out. Loved it. Had a great time. I thought you meant thematically. I haven't seen it again. I haven't thought about it. Really? Oh, I've revisited that a couple times. Delightful watch. You love complicated movie stories. Yes. You like complicated movie stories. I do. Great. I am surprised that amongst this group that it lasted as long as it did. What's that supposed to mean? We're very white. Very white. That movie is very white. Who's white? I took Brooklyn's finest. You know what the vibe was. Oh, man. That's a wrap on my picks. Into the seventh round here. Kind of what? Ciara's like kind of a little bit. Honorary? I mean, I wouldn't go as far as to say honorary. What word would you use? I don't give out cookout invitations. It's fine. But you know, me and him have had conversations about Gucci Mane. I texted him on Juneteenth and then I felt immediately bad about it. I was like, it's not my place. Did you say happy Juneteenth? He didn't text me. Here's the thing. He did something worse. Did you say you're welcome for me to say? Wait, wait, wait. He texted me on Juneteenth, but didn't refer to it. Yeah. No, in fact, it was an Instagram of a dude listening to a 2009 rap mixtape. When they used to have like, it's Mr. Thanksgiving DJ drama. Damn, son. Where'd you find this? Where'd you find it? I know. You know that I know. I know that you know. Yeah. Okay. Who doesn't know is Bill. We got to feed these streets, son. We should get you doing drops on mixtapes. I was looking at you to do drops on them. This is, we got to add this one to the watchable. But I would want to do it on Phoebe Richter's song. Damn, son. Where'd you get this trauma? It's just like her singing. Oh, my God. Oh, boy. Damn, Phoebe. Where'd you get that skeleton shirt from? I was going to say skeleton shirt. Damn, Phoebe. Why'd you do that to Paul Meskel? Oh, man. Okay. It's me, right? I got wild card. Some good movies left. Some real good movies left. I'm going to take one of them. Don't worry. I'll take the last one. Which one will it be? What's ever remaining? So does everyone just have wild card left? I'm taking the Safdie Brothers' Daddy Long Legs. Oh, that's good. That's nice. Which is an amazing movie. One of their first movies. A very autobiographical portrait of a dad who do not have it together. Trying to take care of two boys. Them, probably. Ronald Bronstein, their co-writer and editor on a lot of their movies is the star of the movie. And so it's mostly like very running, gun production. There's a great criterion addition in the movie if you haven't seen it. And it's kind of source code, I would say, for a lot of them. A lot of what they have done over the last 10 or 15 years. A real like following situation. Exactly. This was one that like if I hadn't gotten to take Blue Valentine in original, I would have tried to take this late in original and seen if you would have allowed it. Because it is so autobiographical for them. I have it listed in original. Yeah, I know. It's the same thing where it's like contemporarily set. It's inspired by. Yeah. But yeah. I would encourage people to seek out interviews with the Safdies where they talk about their dad. 'Cause it's quite interesting. Yes. Jo just swallowing her words every time we talk about what is an original and what is not. It's amazing. You feel that you were wounded by the EZA decision. Yes. And you're sucking your teeth. I think I'm right. Okay. That's all. This is a real R2D2 should be allowed in the Skywalker family. Yeah. I really do support you in all of your efforts, including EZA, which is a wonderful film, but that seems pretty clear to me. But we love you and you're welcome back on the big picture anytime. Oh, I feel welcome. And I feel loved and respected. Okay. We're also right. We're also right. Okay. I think it's me. Amanda's up. Okay. In wild card. Listen, like remember me as shining there for me. And that is one of the most incredible film going experiences I've ever had. But I'm not going to disrespect. Pierce Brosnan that way. You know, everything that happened on that day by picking remember me. So I'm going to do please give the Nicole Holofcener movie starring Catherine Keener with just the most enviable enviable wardrobe of all time, but also Rebecca Hall. I got two Rebecca Hall movies. I feel good about that. That's great. That's wonderful. Amanda Peet, Oliver Platt. Thank you. And, you know, it is firmly in the, you know, rich white people with small problems genre, but interesting, but I couldn't have somewhere. So I have this instead, and where'd you get those problems? Um, and I, I love Nicole Holofcener's work. And I just, the, the ways in which everything is, they're more spoken than Sophia, a couple of movies. They're more word focused, which I appreciate and, um, but still equally observed with the right amount of hating everybody else and also hating yourself and also hoping that things will be okay and, uh, having perfect furniture. So thank you, Nicole Holofcener. Rob, you can't steal that from Amanda now. What's next? I would never. Uh, because I will be selecting. The Donnie Yen classic, Ip Man, uh, in wildcard. Fucking amazing movie. I've never seen a dude get punched so many times on the way to the ground as in this movie. I've got regrets. Ip Man's there. Ip Man's really good. Profit's there. Yeah. He left some stuff on the board. That's surprising. What's your profit? Five years ago, apparently, so. Yeah. Yeah. It was six years ago. Yeah. One year older than you think. Interestingly, there's a movie that you three all many times on the prior version of this draft. I believe we didn't pick this and none of you have taken it. Interesting. Okay. I'll reveal what it is at the end. Because Crystal has a pick, so he could take it still. I'm on Tinder. I guarantee you that I'm not picking that. Is it burlesque? Yes. It is. Is it a Serbian film? It's something. Van? Yes. Van is up. I'm trying to see if I can. This movie had to be released in the United States, right? Yeah. Foreign language animated is your last category. Yeah. So I couldn't take the foreign language film I wanted to take. Which was what? Uncle Boon Me? No. Uncle Boon Me. Uncle Boon Me. Uncle Boon Me? No. me no it was 13 assassins quality film yeah not eligible 2011 yeah takashi miike yeah uh so that means i'm taking megamind isn't he in somebody else's universe megamind is yeah what's he what's he a part of i can't i only saw megamind the one time but i liked it when i saw it even for you that was a really weak i liked it i liked it when i saw it i only saw megamind the one time but i got i got 13 assassins insanely star-studded cast oh yeah megamind yeah like will ferrell uh tina fey who else is in it ben stiller ben stiller yeah jonah hill brad brad pitt wow yeah that's right justin thoreau himself the writer of iron man 2 yeah oh something else about it who did the music in megamind i remember this phil glass who was it it's hans zimmer he also did the music for this recent season of euphoria allegedly did he oh yeah his team did okay his underling the zimmerites yeah the zimmerettes yeah it's not very nice what if there were men and women involved is it my turn it's gender new it is is it's why not in a wild card but it could have been franchise um i'm gonna take breck eisner's the crazies yeah that's a cr pic i love it uh this is a remake of a 1973 george romero movie uh and much like zack snyder's dawn of the dead it cooks uh i think romero creates a platform for people to do great work and timothy oliphant plays a sheriff um in a small iowa town where there's a chemical outbreak that turns people into raging violent sort of zombies sort of zombies yeah ron and mitchell in this, and I just love her. And this is an awesome movie, and one of my favorite little sub-genres is small town gone upside down in horror movies. Speak on the cinema of Breck Eisner. Well, he did this and he did Sahara. Am I right? Are you familiar with anything else about him? I know that his father is Michael Eisner. His father is Michael Eisner. And his name is Breck. His name is probably something else, and he changed he goes by Breck, right? It's like a cool name. Breckin? Yeah. Toma Breck or something? It's like short for something. Breckwin? Willa Breck? Willa Breck seems like it could be it. Damn, son. Damn, Breck. Michael Breckinridge Eisner. Is it Breckinridge? He's short for Breckinridge. If it's 11pm and you're like, I don't feel like going to bed yet, watch The Fucking Crazies. It's a really, really solid two hours How did you say they became crazy? There's like a plane crashes with some chemicals on it and it spreads throughout the town. Are you concerned at all that that's what's going to happen to us? I'm not convinced that the chemicals have not led us to a four-hour podcast. As Mike Johnson loses control of the caucus. You had that on Wildcard? Yeah. Okay, so Joanna, is it the final pick? Yeah. Hold on one second. I think you have the very last pick. I can't believe there's a new Prime Minister. I know. You broke that news to me, bud. Wildcard is your category. Correct. You can take any film undrafted released in the year 2010. Some good ones left. I genuinely can't believe this is still available. Feels good. I'll be taking The Trip. I almost picked that. I love that movie. Well, I have bad news, Joe. It's unfortunately not available. It's not eligible. This is technically a 2011 US release. It was. I did include it in the letterbox. Yeah, it was on your letterbox. You put it on your letterbox. Oh, damn. That was my mistake. Subterfuge. Wow. That's brutal. That would have been amazing. Joe just, she closed the laptop and everything. That would have been a sick, the hammer pick, too. It was originally, in my mind, I was like, this is the ultimate pick in franchise film. I was, yeah. You can still pick 127 Hours. Oh, thank you. Oh. That hasn't been chosen. I wonder why. What do you think it is? Just too tough a subject matter? Probably so. Tough watch. You said best performance of the year Franco that year, right? No, the Swiss Army. 2011. I will pick Never Let Me Go. That lasted a long time. Not a fan of that movie. It doesn't have a good category this year. Not a fan. It's one of my 10 favorite books ever, so the movie just, yeah. It's definitely not a good movie. It's a loose adaptation, like a quite loose adaptation, but it's an incredible like an incredible crop of young actors. Great performances. Yeah. And great sweaters. And like a really good visual style, I think, as well. But in terms of like adaptation, it is very loose. Well, it was selected second overall the last time this draft was done. You got it at 49. So there you go. It's a win. It's a lot of value. Dude, no one took Fish Tank. What happened? I just almost picked Fish Tank. Oh, fuck me. You guys talked about Fish Tank on the last draft, so you were like, wow, did none of us pick Fish Tank? It was number two on my original list. Yeah. I had it 11th. So my overall list. Oh, man. That's a bummer. And I didn't draft it. I feel like I've drafted it at some point. Don't worry. I talked about Fussbender and fucking Lizzie Vikander, and I think that's basically the same thing. You're not wrong. That's an absolutely chilling scene. No one took Tiny Furniture? Any thoughts on Fish Tank? Do you feel like your life at all, or? You can say no. Is this the kind of dirty tricks I can expect out of the campaign trail? Wow. How did it go? Fish Tank just absolutely just went over. I didn't know. Great moment. How would it go if you and I ran against each other? I think we would bring Decorum back to politics. I think you're right. Okay. So Fish Tank was going to be my number one honorable mention. Yeah. Bummer that that didn't get picked. My other one is Four Lions, which is an amazing British comedy starring a young Riz Ahmed. This is the year of Tiny Furniture. That's right. And the breakthrough film right before Girls comes. Which is a good movie. Hot Tub Time Machine. Classic. Fans? Not fans? It's fine. No one took the King's Speech or The Fighter. It's kind of weird. The Fighter, I'm surprised. That one probably could have gone somewhere. It's a little weird. The Fighter is one of my favorite Amy Adamses. But I don't really care about it that much. Bail going crazy in that bitch. I almost did King's Speech and Blockbuster, but then I just, I don't know. Why is that movie so roundly hated now? Because it took the best picture Oscar away from Social Network. And also because it was so clearly like a Harvey Weinstein. Weinstein engineered best picture when at the height of some of that. Everybody talks a bunch of shit on it. I remember it was kind of a thing when it came out. People were talking about the movie and the performances. It was very popular. It was a thing. It was like a big deal. Now it's like one of those ones you look back on and everybody has something bad to say. A couple other. I was just going to say I have no problem saying that I hold the Social Network's loss against it. This is not bad. It's solid. I'm just being a brat. It's kind of like how you feel about Green Book now, right? No, I liked Green Book when it came out. Honestly, I said it at the time. I don't think it's a worthy best picture winner. It's a bad best picture winner. Who won the Green Book? What should have won the Green Book? Roma. Green Book is an abomination. We did not select the late period Clint Eastwood classic Hereafter. We did not select the Valerie Plame film Fair Game. Damn, Valerie. Where'd you find these state secrets? That's never not going to work on me. Just listen to too many things say damn. Valerie Plame hasn't thought about that. Devil. Oh, shit. I love that one. It was very fun. Do you remember the theater when the Devil trailer came out and you're watching the Devil trailer and everyone's like, oh, this looks great, blah, blah. But I'm like, stock was so low. And then it was like, at the end, it was like, direct by M. Night Shyamalan. It was from the mind. And the entire theater laughed. He was like, yeah. But then he came back for his corners with The Visit and now he's got it together. Yeah, that beach that you're old. It's called Old. I like that. He goes on little runs and then it falls off and it's bad and then it comes back. His next film is a collaboration with Nicholas Sparks. It's called Remain. It's a romantic thriller. No, we're learning. Probably someone's a ghost. Predators? I love Predators. Almost went Predators in franchise. Predators is the, if you know, you know, Predators. I'm pro Predators. Trash Humpers? I'm not Trash Humpers. So Predators, real quick, I thought that Adrian Brody, after Predators, was going to go on a little action. That's the one he got an eight pack for. He got, he went and he was so believable and so fucking awesome. I was like, you know what? He's going to go mainstream for a little while, cash him checks. That's an action guy. Cage face-off move. Kind of, and he was just like, fuck it, I'm not into it. Can I put a theory as to why that didn't work for him? Go for it. Did you see Splice from this year? Yes. I think that's the reason why. Yeah. When he has sex with his surrogate kangaroo daughter. I kind of enjoyed that movie. I don't know, man. I also like Splice. Vincenzo Natale at the cinema. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not a prude, but I had to clutch my pearls at that one. That was weird. It's a complicated movie. Vincenzo Natale is the one who directed that episode of Hannibal where he like comes out of a horse. Yeah, see, I'm cool with that. And he was so physically and even energetically dominant in that movie. I thought he had a lane there. He was like, fuck it. What did I draft last time? No one took Guy and Madeline this time either. Throw that one out there. Let's see, Chris. Last time you took Never Let Me Go in the first round as your drama. You took Jackass 3D in the second round as your comedy or horror pick. You took Shutter Island in the third round as your blockbuster. You took A Prophet in the, fourth round as your animated or foreign language. You took Monsters as your wild card. And you took Robin Hood as your sequel. I was thinking about doing Robin Hood again. Terrible movie. Which Robin Hood? The one with Oscar Isaac and Russell Crowe. Oh, shit. Essential movie in the lore of our friendship. We recorded a test podcast without a podcast network or proper equipment about the film Robin Hood in 2010. In my basement. Do you have the tapes? The Library of Congress has them. They're holding onto it. Woodward and Bernstein. Okay. Should we recap our teams? Yeah, no more honorable mentions? I got a couple. Shoot. Country Strong starring Tim McGraw and Gwyneth Paltrow. I was genuinely wondering if you might draft Country Strong. I had it on a wild card. Listen, crazy things happen and it's always good to, and Leighton Meester and Garrett Hedlund speaking of. What if you had done Country Strong and Remember Me? How would you feel about that? I mean, that is kind of the strategy I brought last time. If I were in your drafting spot, like that's maybe what would have happened. And then Easy A and just fully gone for it. And then Ghost Rider. Roman Polanski film. Ewan McGregor. Pierce Brosnan. Great Pierce Brosnan performance. Yeah. It's pretty good. I rewatched part of it last night and I was like, well, you know. It's a little rickety, but also very fun. There's a Tom Cruise movie this year. Night and Day. Night and Day. I've never seen that one. Undrafted? I saw maybe like 10 minutes of it. I never saw it. It's not great. - Mm-hmm. - Pretty, some really good stuff. good foreign language films. Carlos, the Olivia Isaias films. Valhalla Rising from Nick Winding Refn. Secret Sunshine is this year. White Material. Uncle Boon Me. Uncle Boon Me. What else? What other Oscar nominees? I am so good at foreign language. I didn't know he was going to do that. Machete. Paranormal Activity 2. Do you like that? I know that I've been potting since 9.45am. It's 4pm now, and that's the funniest thing I've heard all day. If I could have a full soundboard, I would use it all the time. You would say something really special about Entangled, and I would just go flex my arms. Damn, Entangled. Damn, son. Where'd you get that hair? flex bombs flex bombs that's something Jack can explore just drop in put your hand I did say damn son where'd you find that when I watched Manda Seyfried and Chloe I don't know if you guys have seen it ah fucking right of course that's a performance that's a good one that's a one on the one okay let's recap our teams so Mal you had first pick so why don't you go first okay so in order of the rounds round one social network was my franchise film round two blue valentine my original round three kick ass my comedy round four how to train your dragon my blockbuster round five winter's bone my oscar nom round six a prophet foreign language or animated and round seven the kids are alright a wild card feel pretty good about that I don't really remember the rounds but I'll try to do it round one in original I took inception round two in comedy I took the other guys I think round three in oscar nominee I took animal kingdom round four in foreign language I took mother blockbuster tangled we don't have to do it in that order blockbuster tangled in franchise film I took insidious and in wild card I took daddy long legs okay Amanda I'm gonna try in oscar nominee I took the town in comedy morning glory in original greenberg in foreign language animated dog tooth in blockbuster despicable me in franchise harry potter in the deathly hallows part one and in wild card please give rob I took toy story three in blockbuster somewhere in original although I kind of wish it was comedy still uh mcgruber in comedy I am love in foreign or animated black swan in oscar another year in actual comedy and ip man in wild card we didn't talk about ip man ip man is that shit bro incredible jack what I draft I can't remember what I drafted in comedy van selected scott pilgrim versus the world in franchise film he took iron man 2 in original he took the book of eli in blockbuster he took tron legacy oscar nominee exit through the gift shop wild card due date and foreign slash animated megamind one of the all time draft performances incredible also will you stop making jack your pa how could I don't remember I don't you guys I don't ever do that he literally texted me on the clock spammed he's like jack jack what categories do I have left I saw him at one point like point at you and be like I'm here for the vibes of my people man Chris you're up I don't have this in order I'm just gonna do it cause this way I can say that in franchise I took twilight saga eclipse in original not based on any previous ever existing story that anyone's ever told each other brooklyn's finest in comedy jackass 3d again took that one on sunday in foreign or animated oscar nominee was unstoppable for best sound editing uh blockbuster was shutter island and wild card was breck eisner's the crazies breck son of michael uh joanna try to do this with no bitterness joanna come on I'm full of sweetness and honey uh in franchise film I took the girl with the dragon tattoo in original not based on any pre-existing source material I took salt in comedy I took easy a in foreign language slash animated I took beautiful in oscar nominee I took inside job in blockbuster I took true grit and in wild card I took never let me go just clarifying one thing rob said mcgruber in comedy he took it in franchise film you're absolutely right thank you that's it how did this yeah I think this went really well had a blast pretty normal think that we'll get some good feedback on this one probably honestly yeah and I'll consume all of it people like the mania yeah I love this team I'm proud of this team it's the best I feel this is a very special not flicking around group I think next year you should pick a worse year for films and have us pick more like yeah you should make it it's like 70 70 movies but for like the worst for like the pure I mean this is where I want us to go with this project you know it's like how how hard can we scrape the bottom of that barrel that's what I'm saying well thank you to van thank you to mal thank you to cr thank you to joe thank you to rob thank you to jack sanders thanks to lucas cavanaugh thanks to everyone here at spotify she did great work today amanda do you feel you deserve a thank you at the end of every episode should we bake that in when will I get a thanks will that ever happen this fucking show chris like don't talk to a woman like that chris can you just help me play with my google right now you know so next episode we're talking about supergirl and jackass best and last in the invite those are the three films how many people have seen the invite has anybody I almost made an invite reference on this podcast but a little early well I you know I never know where in time we are but I held it back wow I'm just living in the now you're like joe biden yeah should we just do the supergirl podcast from the bar from mcguffins yeah from mcguffins do we have a mcguffins date tomorrow yeah we tried but that was like three hours ago isn't the screening at like 7 30 yeah and then do like a 10 p.m from the bar podcast with great audio that jack will love from our iphones yeah or should we just go on ig live oh ig live a 10 person ig live how late does mcguffins stay open never closes okay wait a minute is everybody you're at the screening tomorrow too sadly not I didn't get that invite you know I'm not ringerverse I'm like y'all I'm not going to that because the film has girl in the title yeah yeah he's like I have to get back to my smack you around what tv watching right now uh star city and house of the dragon yeah the star city recommendation couldn't have been better still got it hot damn I mean what I've seen I've enjoyed I mean I read some stuff but I've only watched from what I've seen I've enjoyed I thought it was great cool great tough tough shit tough to watch violent violent violent yeah sad I had to I had to hit joe for like fucking moral support like that was too much how would you do on the back of a dragon not well don't like heights don't like scaly animals and shit like that did I support you morally you did wow you did I'm pretty nice oh I thought we were talking about star city until dragons came up star city good yeah okay well thanks everybody for participating Sean thank you for putting this together thank you Sean thanks for all the work you do I really appreciate it yeah yeah it's really good thanks Sean okay fuck you bye bye for a limited time you can get a big mac meal for just eight dollars that's a burger fries and a drink they don't call it an extra value meal for nothing get a big mac meal only at McDonald's. 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