The 1976 Movie Draft

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No, that's not what it's about. No, it's about who belongs, who gets to sit and canonize with us, really, in perpetuity, I think. That's the question. I think we're about one or two months away from me and him texting and just being like, "Why don't we just ditch these losers, start our own podcast?" I mean, I'll tell you what, give it a shot, see what happens. So we are here to draft. This is the third episode of Tracy that we've gotten this week. How are you feeling? Great. Yeah? I'm always happy to be with you guys on the mics or otherwise. Well, that's beautiful. Very nice. I made a little rhyme. I didn't mean to. Yeah. 1976. Mm-hmm. Yeah. You were alive. I was. What was going on? Tell us about it. You know, it was our bicentennial year. Yeah, it sure was. And I'm born on the 4th of July. So I turned— I didn't know that about you. It's true. I didn't either. I should have Googled. I'm sorry. I— Happy birthday to you. You meant to say happy birthday. It's not the 4th of July yet. That explains so much about what you represent to this fine country. There you go. I turned 11 when the country turned 200. And I remember it very well. My dad had—he was a college professor, and he had become disenchanted with teaching or the institution he was teaching at, so he quit. And he and my mom built and operated a grocery store out at the lake. He became a gentleman grocer for a year. It was a disastrous experiment. I was about to say, this sounds like my dream. I know. I was going to say. Oh, my goodness. You never found two people more temperamentally unsuited to be—to run a grocery store than my parents. It sounds like a less exciting version of Mosquito Coast. I think that's very appropriate. We lived in a trailer park. And my birthday gift on our bicentennial was a Honda 50. I got a little— Oh, you got a little dirt bike? Yeah, a little mini bike to go scoot around in. Wow. To go scoot around the lake on. We used to really know how to raise kids back then. We used to go swimming in the lake, me and my friends, unsupervised. How did we not drown? I can't even fathom it. So you had a little dirt bike going around a lake? Yeah. That's one of the scariest things I've ever heard. Yeah, looked like a little ghost, right? Just like perennially sunburned. He was like seriously out of gumbo. Just like a little guy, right? And we were, you know, we were at the movie theaters seeing a lot of these movies we're going to talk about today. Afternoon Delight was playing on the radio. Songs in the Key of Life was on our turntable all year long. Hell yeah. It was a great time to be alive. C.R., you were— Just a glimmer in my dad's eye. You were around the corner. Sure. You were not quite there. Yeah. Yeah. You look at the landscape of '76, the cinema of '76, the culture of '76. Sure. What do you see? What do you hear? What do you feel? I was thinking— I was thinking a lot about the pregnant moment before, you know, obviously Jaws is '75, correct? So we're living in a post-Jaws world. And when you read like Pauline Kael from November of '76, she's still like grappling with Jaws. She's still reckoning with what the shark means for movies. But I think while all that nervousness is happening, like we get like an absolute diamond of a year that is maybe one of the last of its kind before all the big "we can make Jaws money" kind of movies. Yeah. Really start to come in. And this is one where even like the blockbusters are just really creative and interesting. And some of them are just throwaway like exploitation movies or whatever, B-movies. But it's just, it's decidedly free of franchises. It's decidedly free of premeditated blockbusters. And I think you can see that in like the variety of work that comes across here. What struck you? So I probably first came to this as an Oscars year, right? As an Oscars nerd. And you start doing the history. And this year and the year before it are probably the quote unquote two greatest Oscar best picture lineups in history. Maybe both times with "Not the Winner," I would have chosen. But if you come to this moment by, you know, studying all of the Oscars, you see all of these movies. And then this is your introduction to what was going on in the '70s movie-wise, which is, you know, what the Oscars taught me. Over the years. This is still my pick for the best year. So even, even over. For the lineup or for the year itself? For the, for the lineup. And I guess probably maybe for the year. But it's going to be interesting, right? Because there's, I mean, there's so much top line stuff. There is so much recognizable, great works of cinema canonized in part, you know, by the Oscars, but also just because of what we referenced. And then, there's a lot of, there's not that much in the middle, I found, at least while preparing for this. I was kind of shocked by the number of comedies I just had to turn off. And I was like, well, I'm not laughing. And also that is not an appropriate representation of that person in 2026. I would watch "Amanda Watchdog" watch. I was just like, I mean, not even that one. So, I, can it be great if it's just like all the big names, all, all bold-faced stuff? Is it the greatest? I mean, not to be Captain Obvious, but like, yes, you've got "Network." You've got "Taxi Driver." You've got "All the President's Men." You've got "Rocky." You've got, you know, it's, those are heavy hitters. But I, you know, it's, it was, it was interesting to see what else was going on because when you think about 76 and you think about young Tracy going to the movies every week and like living like in the heyday of cinema, they're not all "Network." No. I, I was in the theater for, "In Search of Noah's Ark." I saw that in the movie theater. I wrote about that in the newsletter last week. And just the idea that that movie was the, was it the number nine or number 10 grossing film for the year, which was a documentary. And did your parents bring you to go see that movie? No, I'm sure I went. By yourself? No, with my older brother, probably. And what, what spurred that? Was it just because it was a kind of phenomenon? We had one screen in town. Yeah, there you go. And that's part of how it works. And I think that's, I don't know. I, I probably would disagree with what you're saying because I find the middle of this year, very soft. And this makes for a very interesting draft because there is somewhere between seven and 10 extremely desirable titles this year. And then the way that we do the categories, they're a little weaker. We had to do a little bit of navigating and managing around it. And just thinking back to 1975, we drafted for 1975, four years ago on the pod. And here are the movies that were taken just among the three of us. I'll just list the 15 movies we took in '75. My, my slate was Barry Lyndon. The Man Who Would Be King, Jaws, One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, Dolomite, and Rollerball. Chris's was The Passenger, Night Moves, Shampoo, Nashville, Rocky Horror Picture Show, and Race with the Devil. And Amanda got Picnic at Hanging Rock, The Stepford Wives, Three Days of the Condor, Dog Day Afternoon, Monty Python and the Holy Grail, and Grey Gardens. Amazing one. I mean, you just can't, that's not. Wait a second. I got Grey Gardens in '75. You did. Was that the year. Well, I'm going to have to hold on, just Googling some release dates here. Grey Gardens was on the Letterboxd list that you made. It was. I think it's because we, we let it go through because it played the new New York Film Festival in the fall of 75. Okay, we counted that as American release. And it was released in theaters February of 76. Okay, that's fine. Now, this is an ongoing issue that I think will be an issue in this episode, and we should probably talk about it. Up front, or do you want to. Let's just talk about it up front, because. I'm just deleting that from Wildcard. There's a whole raft of, let's just say, international movies, movies that were made overseas, and the years in which they arrive in the 1970s, sometimes it takes three or four years, or sometimes not at all, for a movie to be released. There's been a lot of chaos with Japanese animated movies in the 80s and 90s drafts as well, where it's like, I don't really know what year this movie should be eligible. But for like Seven Beauties this year or whatever. Yeah, well, at least Seven Beauties was nominated. It's December 75, right? Yes, but it was nominated for the Academy Awards for 76, but there's a whole host of them. One fun activity to do when you're preparing for this is just go to the Criterion Channel and type in 1976. I did do this. It was really fun. And see what comes up. And there's a ton of things there. Yeah. Probably more than half of those things never even opened in America. So the rules that I created when we were talking about movies from the 2000s, which was what was the U.S. release date as the guide for what we can draft, it's a little squishier here. So Grey Gardens would have been eligible, but since you took it in 75, maybe not so eligible. It's okay. We don't want to repeat it. I don't know. What do you make of how we're navigating all this? I think we should just play with love and trust. Yes, do the best we can. That's beautiful. It's a fundamental belief system in this podcast. I would just say. When you're out in the world talking about the big picture, not on this podcast, it's maybe with love, but not trust always. Yeah. How do you mean? I would say that you have some feedback about our taste that you've made public on Blank Check and other places. Look, I've made no bones about the fact that I disagree with you guys 60 to 70 percent of the time. But I've said it to Chris, that's part of the magic of the show. Thank you. That you can disagree. I disagree with you guys as much as I do and listen to the show. And it's not a hate watch. It's not a hate listen. I don't listen to it because you piss me off. Thank you. I listen to it in spite of the fact that you piss me off. That's why you listen to the watch. Do you listen to the big picture? Have you heard it? Do I listen to the big picture? Yeah, I do. What do you think of it? It's an interesting experiment in social media. How often do you agree with their taste? Maybe more so than I do. Somewhere, I mean, I am usually in agreement with one or the other, if not both. See, I mean, I like a lot fewer things than you do, but I think that's the way it's supposed to be. I think given the various jobs that we have, I think we like the right percentage of stuff. I have found the more folks that I get to know who have worked in this business, the more you find that they don't like a lot of things, that they're actually quite critical of a lot of things. Of course, they will never, ever say that they don't like. They don't like something for a variety of reasons, but it's always fascinating to me here why someone who has worked in film, television, theater thinks something is a failure. It's usually because the director of photography on that is a jackass to be one. Sometimes, but sometimes you get such fascinating critical insight that I just wish I could share or wish could be broadcast in a way, but that's because folks like yourself understand how some of this stuff works in ways that we never will. Also, of course, there's also a generational component. And we've had this conversation that The Ringer itself, there's a kind of 90s love across platforms here at The Ringer that I don't share. I prefer the 80s to the 90s in terms of movies. That's a fight I love to have and keep having, but it's not a deal breaker. Not a deal breaker. This was proffered on the Robert Duvall Hall of Fame that the movies from the 70s are better than the movies from the 80s and movies from the 80s are better than the movies from the 90s and so on. And so forth. We found it both with Robert Duvall and Robert Redford. Very true. Yes. But I wonder if the, are the Robert Redford movies from the 90s better than his movies from the 80s? They might. They might be. Yes. They might be. Is Sneakers 90s? No. Look at our Hall of Fame. Sneakers is 90s. Sneakers is 92. You might be right about that. We got to start talking about stars who were in their primes in the 90s. That was the other thing is who was in their prime at that time. Right. That's a fact. That's a factor. Anyhow. Up close and personal. Do you think East, never forget. Not a great one. Eastwood in the 90s better than Eastwood in the 80s? Oh, yeah. No question. Yeah. Not even close. I can't conjure the titles. I mean, Unforgiven. In the line of fire. Perfect World. In the line of fire. Bridges of Madison County. That's, some of his best movies are in the 90s. Yeah. The exception that proves the rule. Okay. I had a, I had a, I think we'll probably end up doing every year from the 1970s at some point, hopefully with you again in the future too, but this year and the point that you were making about Jaws had me thinking about an exercise, which is I find that because the 70s is so critical to shaping the future of cinema, not just in America, but worldwide. Each year gets a movie that I feel like is the movie that represents something meaningful. Box office wise, critically, cultural, cultural impact beyond both of those things, kind of what it means to the character of the country, the character of the business. And I just, this morning just banged out what I think the movie of that year is. So for 1970, I thought MASH. It wasn't the number one movie at the box office, but it's a movie that kind of changed the tenor of what a movie could be and be a very successful film. And you did get captured like the, the anti-war sentiment that was growing in the country at the time. Something in the zeitgeist, a little bit of the like pranksterism too, that I think came out of the 1960s. 71, I chose the French Connection. 72, I chose the French Connection. 72, I chose the Godfather. 73, I chose The Exorcists. That's two Friedkin movies. 74, I chose Blazing Saddles over things like The Godfather Part II. Right. Your anti-Godfather II agenda continues. We had some conversation about this on Robert Duvall. Okay. On my side. And did I hear you on the Talk Easy podcast learn that maybe your father was Godfather? My father did not like Godfather II. At least he didn't when he was reviewing it, apparently. A cash grab. Yes. He called it. But, you know. Sure. Can you imagine my dad now? Like, having to reckon with what cash grabs are. I mean, he would have been a great third chair. I think there's more conversation to have about Godfather Part II, but it's a 50-year-old movie. We don't have to have it now. It's not the right year, but we'll get there. Okay. 75, Jaws, of course. 76, the subject of our draft, is probably Rocky. Yeah. Yes. And we'll get into that when we go through the draft. 77 is obvious, Star Wars. 78, I think, is probably Rocky. 79 is Superman. And 79, you can pick your poison. Apocalypse Now is the end of something. Alien is the start of something. Yeah. What do you make of that? Do you feel like that's a little easy Monday morning quarterbacking? Well, do you want to talk about 76 specifically? Because I think the rejoinder to Rocky would be like, well, what about all the president's men? And put a capstone on Watergate? And, you know, it's like this. But I'm curious as somebody who was there and also somebody who's obviously thought about this process, like why Rocky and not- Oh, my God. Yeah? Very tapped in. Really? My father red-faced and screaming at the television for two solid years. Oh, no. Incredibly tapped in. That's so interesting. It was some of my earliest memories. My parents screaming at the television. It was just total engagement and enragement. Did he read the Woodward and Bernstein book? Oh, of course. Did he anticipate? Did you send anticipation for that movie? In your household? Absolutely. Hmm. That is interesting. Not surprising. And I'm not trying to deride all the president's men. I just made a podcast about it two weeks ago. It's an interesting exercise to be like, you know, you might want it to be one way, but it's actually another way. Well, I think, what do you think? Because Rocky is very different from most of the movies on that list. Right. And then it wins Best Picture. So it's a little bit Oscar-coded, your choice, but you're really doing more of what does this mean for the movie industry and the types of movies that are being made as opposed to personal favorites or even what you think the quote-unquote, like, best example of cinema is, with all respect to Rocky, which is fun. And I've been on the steps doing the pose myself. I think that makes sense. I mean, it's good list-making. I think that the list mostly favors, I mean, it is, it's an industry measurement list rather than an artistic list, but that's okay. Even though there are good movies on here. I'm looking to blend both. With the idea that, like. Well, and the popular imagination, too. But in 1975, nobody thought Jaws was going to win Best Picture. It wasn't even a consideration. Right. That movie was not going to win Best Picture. You knew it was going to be one of the other movies, and Cuckoo's Nest obviously barreled through. The same way, that's why Rocky was such a shift. It was a real shift. You had these other undeniably great films, and then this. Heart of a Champion movie, you know, it was a head-scratcher. I think there's a prevailing thought that the new Hollywood ends a lot earlier than people think it does, and that it's really, it's not Star Wars, but it's that double whammy of Jaws and Rocky that augurs the massive shift at the corporately held movie studios to push in a different direction. And Star Wars seals the deal. Right. There's a, so the Kale essay that I was referring to is this, like, November. piece, she writes. that's you know it's a lot of it is about jaws but then some of it's about clint eastwood and some of it's about john wayne and some of it's about alfred oh i've read this piece yeah it's really an amazing like kind of snapshot of a moment in cinema but i was i was struck by the fact that in november of 76 she's still kind of like turning jaws over in her head and turning over like what it meant to movies for this to happen do you remember compared to say now because this is something that comes up every once in a while on this pod and others how long things would stay in the consciousness and whether or not like something like jaws just kind of like occupied more mind share for longer than say something now where it's like man that show's amazing for eight weeks and then it just seems to like nobody mentions it again until emmys or nobody mentions it again ever or a movie for instance like project i use project hail mary as an example where it's like a wildly hugely successful movie but i don't know like it's never gonna have the footprint of ghostbusters you know like it's never gonna have the footprint of something that's like no but i think that there's a way i don't mean to cut you off no but i think there's a way to read that movie the same kind of sociocultural way that kale was so good at which is that there's kind of like a hope to mism in that movie yeah absolutely i think that people kind of desperately want right now because of a lot of what's going on externally in the world and it also reminds us of like earlier more comfy times in movie culture and so you kind of smash those two ideas together i mean that's my favorite thing to do is to kind of overread something in the culture like that in 76 though like the fact that the two things are going hitting against each other that like the kind of cynical or or more paranoid kind of film could be really popular and also rocky could be really popular like what does that mean that they can coexist right yeah i i don't i guess i don't have a good answer to that though part of the answer to that is has to do with accessibility i mean you had to go to the movie theater and pay money to see these movies you couldn't watch them at home you could wait until it showed up on broadcast television but other than that you had to go to the movie theater so there's is something about that does something about that actually keep the ball in the air in a sense in terms of culture and conversation longer because it's a it's a little harder to see my kids watch the same movie every day right yeah a week or two weeks it's like i didn't have that wasn't possible for me as a kid well let me ask you one other thing about that because when i was a kid the longest period of time that could transpire was the period when i missed a movie in movie theaters and i was waiting for it to come to blockbuster yeah that was it felt like an eternity and it was often eight months seven months if you missed a movie in movie theaters and it doesn't sound like you missed many but if you missed a movie in movie theaters that you wanted to see were you like were you anticipating the opportunity to see it on tv how did you find out it was going to play on tv like can you talk about that gap in time well i read the tv guide religiously oh yeah i looked for when those things were going to be on tv i sought them out and of course with certain things uh they'd bring them back i saw most of the bond movies most of the sean connery bond movies in the movie theater uh on re-release that's how you saw that stuff godfather all right you see godfather one of its biggest box office years is like 74 75 when they re-released godfather but because again we talked about this on the hall of fame duval hall of fame podcast they didn't know how to put it on tv it's an r-rated thing it's like and yet it was the most popular movie you know the biggest box office movie of all time so how are we going to see it these kids don't know how good they have it it's incredible how accessible everything is i just the idea of disney plus like makes my brain melt because scarcity was the whole point for years and years and now it's full-blown accessibility all the time you think it has degraded the culture i do think it's degraded the culture i mean my child was just screaming to watch like box jellyfish videos before he went to school this morning and i was like you know what's what has my life come to but it's it's also degraded the business right i mean the fact that nothing is as special means that the kids and we all expect that we're going to be able to have whatever we want exactly as we want it immediately and we're not willing to go out of our way we're not willing to go to movie theaters nothing feels quite as special so that's a bummer luckily you guys have a lot of plastic and you're fighting that off we're doing well with that i think feeling you know the silent film days that make the circuit and then once the silent film was finished making the circuit they threw it in the trash yes which is why only 10 of silent films have survived it was like well this is done and they just chucked it that's amanda proposed that for the mcu and i said no we're gonna hang on to those um doomsday plays once in every city uh do you want to draft any other open thoughts okay well the only thing i'll say is that there is a kind of i like your list i think your list is good i think there's a an answer to every one of the ones on your list no doubt that is i mean yeah mash 1970 but you could also say patent 1970 which in some ways is the flip side of the same coin but there are still some amazing it's not all rah-rah patent right i mean it's written by francis ford coppola there's there's complexity totally yeah um the scene when he's when he's scolding the officer who has ptsd is the most obvious like the two generations misunderstanding each other seen in the movie from that year and i think patent probably made a lot more money than mash at movie theaters i'm guessing uh i think they're pretty close really i think they're and that was part of what i was thinking was what movie is a box office hit a critical sensation and got into the culture in a way that felt impactful but you know everything is debatable i mean star wars and jaws are inarguable and clearly they're inarguable they really changed right hollywood movies in the 80s are very different as a result of not only those two films but those two films are very different as a result of not only those two films but those two films are very different as a result of not only those two films but those two films are very film makers but uh yeah there's there's a flip side to all of those coins well i welcome the feedback and i won't be looking at it uh it's about community yeah so for this draft um we do have six categories i'm going to read those categories before we settle on our draft order the categories are as follows drama comedy or horror now we or sci-fi right or sci-fi um we've done that because as amanda indicated this is a tricky year for comedy i think we could have pulled it off if we kept it tight it would have been pretty funny for like to laugh at us but not to laugh at these movies that's right um thriller or action is also a category blockbuster now the threshold here is 20 million dollars and there are only 10 films that qualify for that threshold then oscar which means any film that was nominated for an academy award from that year and then of course wild card okay i'm jack is there is there a jack sanders selection that we'll be able to hear hello it is i producer jack coming from the past to deliver the highly anticipated 1976 movie draft order as always i have denied tracy letts's bribe of a 100 bill for the first because i have integrity selecting first amanda oh my god i'm so happy i really wanted it and i wasn't gonna say anything first overall draft pick feels like a pretty stacked year it feels like a deep year i personally would want the turn selecting second overall christopher ryan wow so rigged this is the first first pick i've gotten in like six months i do feel pretty bad i feel like every draft has been a part of i think i may have given him the last overall pick so i'm selfishly hoping he's third overall here but we'll see god damn it god fucking damn it sean fantasy will be third which means tracy let's the turn is good the turn is good fascinating okay i know exactly what i'm gonna do but i did just change categories because uh i was a little light yeah so i think this makes sense i think this makes sense hang in there mama hang in there we just we haven't even started yet you got this i'm ready to start deleting okay uh i think in thriller uh-huh i will take all the president's men okay interesting um which all the president's men was gonna be my number number one draft pick if i got the first pick um it is my favorite movie of this year one of my favorite movies of all time uh and also a movie educationally that certainly introduced me to um alan pakula william goldman and then you know all the the backstage gossiping and fraught nature of production that william goldman details in its um adventures in screenwriting right uh i think this is probably where i learned who gordon willis is uh taught me about the power of uh gold chains as worn by robert redford uh it taught me you know this is how i learned watergate because i wasn't around and i probably saw it before we got to watergate in whatever truncated republican american history course i i took in high school you know they never really made it past i know they never get to vietnam yeah they never get to vietnam or they didn't in our day maybe maybe they've gotten there uh they did in my ap american history class you know what honestly even in my ap they were just like yeah yada yada and then richard nixon resigned so um but this is an amazing electrifying like beautiful movie about a bunch of dudes sitting in rooms talking and it really did show to me like the power and the possibility of people talking smartly in rooms and everything that you can do with that like visually and emotionally and i did all my research for 1976 and then i saved this and this is the one that i picked to watch like right before i went to bed last night i didn't even watch all of it but then this morning i was like oh i got 30 minutes here while i gotta while i do my hair and i i set it up because i just i wanted to watch this speech where jason robards as brenn bradley comes out and you know like from the from his house at night and tells him not to fuck up again and it's i don't know it's an american classic it's probably when i say that i think 76 is better than 75 it's just because i love this movie so much and i think this and a couple others to me are like the highest of highs whereas 75 is everyone being really really good but yeah um i'm thrilled to have it great pick i don't know if i would have guessed that this would be the number one over was it consensus number one for you yeah and for you as well yeah interesting this is also like a for for draft nicks a crucial a crucial title to be taken off the board because of its flexibility yes yes i think it would have been acceptable in four of the six categories yeah um you took it in thriller it did excuse me five of the six categories yeah uh which is fascinating in thriller though is really interesting to me that is not what i would have done i will be honest i didn't read the changes that you made last minute until we were drafting and so i i didn't know that it got it okay i didn't know that i didn't i didn't understand that horror and comedy were grouped together okay so i don't think it'll impact you that much okay thank you um well chris you've got the second pick are you are you excited are you reeling how are you feeling i don't think anybody's gonna have a bad movie in the first round of pick not a bad movie but i don't think anybody's gonna be upset nothing soft yeah nobody is like god damn it this is a three movie draft and i get the fourth pick or something i'm gonna take taxi driver and oscars um i am i would be happy to take it or i'm happy to take a bunch of other movies here uh with the second pick but taxi driver's one i revisited recently and um pretty good yeah and also like i forgot excellent yeah yeah one of my favorite movies ever made i forgot how like beyond being like sad to watch a man descend into hell it's also melancholy and you know it's like an incredible portrait of loneliness and an incredible portrait of like a guy who doesn't know like how to relate to the rest of the world and how that drives him insane ultimately but also obviously just like one of the great new york films um one of the most incredibly orchestrated movies when it comes to like the visuals matching up against the sound the score um which is always what kind of haunts me about this and then some of the most virtuistic dazzling sequences you know that you can imagine from scorsese and de niro kind of in a in a zone that few people have ever gotten to so taxi driver normally if i lost out on the bakula movie and the scorsese movie i would be absolutely devastated but that's the thing is if i had taken this what you're about to take you'd probably be like awesome i'm gonna go ahead and delete it yeah i would have been i would have been a little bit disappointed because this has been my number one the number one on my board is coming but any other thought i mean taxi driver it's on the list of movies that i watch every like 18 months or so um and i feel like it what it's exploring and what you just described kind of never goes out of fashion unfortunately it feels like it is right on top of the surface all the time and a lot of that is due to paul schrader tapping into something that i don't think expires some of a lot of it is the de niro performance a lot of it is the sense that like there's always somebody who's unhappy in this country about how the politics is going and that the movie really taps into that too in this or at least they use their discomfort their dissatisfaction with politics to project something from their own unhappiness and that just that idea alone makes it a a timeless movie um i i have a my favorite scene always changes with this movie but it's always a scene where travis is talking to someone and they're like what the fuck is wrong with this guy you know whether it's like peter boyle outside of the diner or any sybil shepherd interaction that he has yeah or you know anytime he's got somebody in the back of his cab and they're chatting um well that in those scenes sometimes travis is like what the fuck is wrong with this guy backseat like martin scorsese yeah the way mental illness is portrayed in movies is interesting we were talking about this with captain newman the history of that's very interesting you know you want to be thoughtful about the way it's portrayed and in taxi driver he's uh he's not only sick he's not only ill but he's scary uh he's realistically scary if you've ever encountered somebody who's having uh an episode or who is mentally ill but also has you feel in them the capacity for violence there's a there something happens inside you right there's a kind of fight or flight impulse that that takes hold and and de niro just absolutely taps into but he's it's not the the strange unhoused person shambling down the street he's very still in the movie you know he's that different kind of menacing that is even scarier where you feel like he actually is in at least believes he's in control as opposed to someone kind of flailing their arms and going crazy it's still just such an amazingly um impactful movie i uh saw almost every movie we're going to talk about in the movie theaters my parents took me to see taxi driver when i was 10 that's wow uh to a drive it and they were like here's your dirt bike and here's your unsupervised before you go any further i have to ask you a question about this because i'm thinking about this with my own parenting you know i feel growing up being exposed to things at a young age got me where i am today yeah yeah for better and for worse i really i liked the way that i was matured by the culture but i i'm i'm now thinking a little bit harder about what the impact of that would be on my kid and you know you turned out wonderfully but you did also write bug and killer joe um and so and look how that worked out for him yeah and we're lucky to have those but the thing and the thing about that is obviously touched by by by you know a a a genius quality you gotta get that's that's that's luck of the draw that's just like you got it or you don't got it if you don't got it and you watch bug if i if i showed alice bug at at 11 the way that you saw a taxi driver at 11 how would that go over what would how would that get into her bloodstream well i saw a taxi driver at 10 remember i had seen serpico at six i mean my my folks exposed me to a lot of the and i really just think they just didn't want to pay for a sitter uh that's another reason why i want to do and i have to say i think differently about it with my own kids i i mean i think my kids are going to have it tougher than i had it i think the world is going to be a harder place and so i'm trying to extend their childhood as far as i can oh that's beautiful so i i'm i'm not exposing them to stuff like this yet okay now i did say to haskell the other day who was asking about something i said when you're 14 you can watch every watch anything watch anything on the shelf i don't care okay but even russ meyer's up you can watch russ meyer's up at 14 exciting but taxi driver is the first movie they ever took me out of we were in the drive-in oh and when uh they go back to jody foster's place which is fairly late in the movie yeah my mom said dennis i'm very uncomfortable and we drove out and they went back the next night and saw oh and i didn't see it until well god forbid you didn't see the day i mean that's no i thought that's when that would have been a little tough to endure that final stretch um that's my that's another thing speaking of the times that's a wonderful detail that i think is in the mr scorsese doc when they talk about this film but just the way in which they change um the color tone of that final sequence because of concerns from the uh the mpa board rating and you know that sort of fantasia of violence that um and how just turning that the blood more red and brown yeah and making it seem like it seems like a descent into hell but it's also a little bit harder to tell what is happening yes in each individual bullet hole and you know that's one of those things where some of that is chance some of those that is artistic some of that is a product of the times and what was allowed and what was not allowed but anyway i mean i would just the thing that haunts me about this movie i think you're talking about this being a harder world to grow up in than the one that maybe taxi driver entered but it's it's gift and it's curses i think it was very prescient about a sentiment of a great way you know a rain will come and wash all this away you hear that echoed in a lot of extremism now and like a kind of just inhumanity and hatred for for people that i think is sadly like very on the nose of like when when you read about like some of the stuff in the world and you just are like jesus christ like you know we've really fallen so way to go paul schrader you got us nailed tapped into something um okay do the thing brother go for it well i'll be taking network in drama um which is a movie i've spoken about quite a bit on this show and we just spoke about it on the duval hall of fame and his scene in that movie which is one of the most electrifying examples of acting that i've ever seen uh i've been thinking a little bit about like why i got into journalism and writing and broadcasting and all these things that i find myself in this relates to all the president's men two of the yeah three or four best movies of the year being about these worlds um i never thought i would be having a camera in front of me while i speak sure um and yet here i am yep howard beeling my way through this um did i've said before like this is the movie that really i think made me feel like a grown-up it taught me a bit more about how the world really works or i thought how it really worked and it's been called prescient such an eerily predictive quality and more so every year similar to taxi driver it kind of never expiring the other thing about this movie though is that it's a lot of fun it's very entertaining i think that's a little bit lost in the discussion of it because it feels so powerful and so stoked by this kind of paranoia and corporate um malfeasance in the work of journalism and in the work of uh telling the truth but like ned bait what ned beatty's doing this movie is a lot of fun what what faye dunaway is doing in this movie is a lot of fun robert duvall's a lot of fun yeah he's having a great time and that kind of like pop opera that chayefsky was so good at that that really really clever style of soliloquy writing that he was he was best at is just really entertaining and this is a movie that like shouldn't appeal to 13 year olds given what it's about but when i saw it i was just taking it was like on a magic carpet ride away into like the rest of my life basically which well it should it understands that what it is talking about is that that its subject is manufactured to be as broad as possible and it's showing you the machinery but also recreating the product it has to yeah especially once he is not just when he's looking down the barrel of the camera and talking about how you know he's he's had enough bullshit yeah but once he starts becoming the host of a variety show effectively in which he is you know a tent revival preacher speaking about how politics god and the self operates in society like we have so many examples of people who do this now so you know it's also such an incredible mishmash of acting styles i was re-watching some scenes from last night and i was like how did they get peter finch and ned beatty on this side of like ham and then duvall and faye dunaway doing this very kind of like loose but very present realism in their in their performance and then holden is just fucking pickled and dying in front of you the entire movie yes you know the saddest performances but how do they lumet making all of that work in the same frame same scene same movie is just always amazing to me superb uh you took it in drama i did because that's another one could go in several categories it could be a comedy could be it could be oscar could be a wild card um i certainly laugh a lot while watching it um okay you've got two selections i knew those were going to be the first three off the board yeah so i was just like just just not last anything but last as i was last time it's very clear the fix is in i understand you think jack sanders has done something you get two picks here you could really upset the apple cart yeah i know and i'm you're about to do that do my best okay i want to acknowledge that the best three movies of this year to my mind have been taken off the board is that a consensus opinion i think so i think those were always going to be the first three picks that i that's the argument that you're making yes that this year is this year those because it's got these those three movies are like top of the top all time in like still referenced still we could say you know both like reflective but also predictive of where we are for all three of them on the list if we were doing a draft of our favorite movies yeah yeah the hundred greatest movies ever made yeah they would be in that conversation and we're going to be talking about greatest performances his screenplay you know all of it so agree in blockbuster i'm going to take rocky okay okay a movie with personal residency yes you want to speak about that deleting it uh i saw it in movie theaters in 1976 it's a terrific uh experience to watch in the movie theater with people it's a such an exciting movie and such a uh it's such an excellent screenplay you know the moment when rocky knocks down apollo the first time is such a in some ways now feels like such an obvious sports movie moment but watching that film something about the way that moment was disguised was such a surprise i mean people leapt out of their seat when they saw it so a thrilling movie to see in the movie theater now i'm i've done this movie called i play rocky which is coming out later this year so i revisited rocky and i put it on for me and carrie and carrie's like oh we're gonna watch rocky like she's seen this she knows it and i asked her a question about the end of the movie which she got wrong so we watched the movie and she was like again like most things we watch she was like oh i've never seen this before and we got to the end of the movie and she said i thought it was a sports movie i didn't realize it's a character study and uh see this is why this is why everybody dislikes me because uh i think they should have stopped making these goddamn movies after rocky i think the world would be a better place if they had stopped at rocky if they stopped at alien i think they should have just stopped well now did they make a billion dollars yes that's an interesting opinion and that's why people don't like you you're beloved um rocky 2 is very good and there is there are people who believe it it is better than rocky 1 they're wrong no they're absolutely wrong i prefer watching rocky 2 rocky rocky 1 is extremely slow it's not slow it is it is it is deliberate in its character study in a way that i can't really find a little dull at times and now the final 20 minutes my wife did not find it dull never did she find it well she also wouldn't have been excited by more boxing in it though right like she wouldn't have been like oh i thought i thought that this was there was gonna be more sports like she was like probably avoided so maybe it's a question what you're looking for in a movie what was the question that she got wrong does rocky win at the end yeah oh that's okay yeah presumably and he does not of course right spoiler alert for rocky 50 years ago um you know i was thinking about as a person who likes rocky and has never loved rocky would i have drafted it at all like would it have been inauthentic to have drafted it before you um worked on i play rocky would you have described yourself as a rocky person i would have described myself as a person who really loved and enjoyed the first film and diminishing returns for me after that i saw two in the theater i saw three in the theater or at home it's pretty fun and i four is dolph lundgren it is uh yeah that by that time he dies he dies i was out that's how i feel about cr on these drafts um philadelphia rocky thoughts i mean he's he's obviously a city icon i i probably care more about at this point in my life i care more about the creed the creed character played by michael b jordan than i do about rocky interesting he has supplanted rocky as the your philly icon well i just think it's like a it's okay to move on like tracy said like we've made so many of these movies sylvester salone has refused to let go of it in a lot of ways or did and i just find myself like kind of being energized and and and stimulated by like a new take on it you know and a new take on the mythology of the boxer you know uh i play rocky it's good you're gonna like it uh that's my selection shall i move on did you ask to do this draft just so you could promote your film you know me the reason i like to come on here is to tout uh to try to run up his numbers i see your long that's rocky you took first and your second pick uh in comedy horror i'm going to take carrie no damn it come on i mean i knew that i knew i wasn't gonna get it but i'm bummed out don't oh good i'm glad somebody's upset about my uh if i were to get that i would have felt very good i think sissy spacex should have won best actress okay listen she's incredible in it but like don't don't bring that to fade down away in network which is the most important i think sissy spacex should have won best of my lifetime and i think piper laurie should have won best supporting act i'm good with that but fade down away keep your oscar she does win for coal miner's daughter right she gets hers i think she's an underrated actress she's tried to get the palma and director somewhere no okay uh i also think they should have stopped making jump scares after caring i think jumps because i hate jump scares i think they should have retired them i can't go there there's not been one uh as good as the jump scare you know what's funny the jump this movie's jump scares are all editing tricks that were used before this and are now used after it but for whatever reason the diploma cut just feels different than other directors cuts and you feel it in the in the in the prom scene you feel it with the hand coming out of the grave like that couple of moments where you're just astonished by what's just happened and you can be like startled it's not the same as being astonished there is something different in this movie the kind of film grammar that he's working with that is so great i'm really mad you got this uh amy irving lives in my little town in new york hi amy i think she's the big picture i don't know okay well next time you see her you can say hey i said hello to you on a podcast amanda recently selected crossing delancey one of her best films one of carrie's favorite movies you know i wonder whether what you're reacting to is what he cuts to because like there's jump cuts there's jump scares in the conjuring movies and it's like in the dark it kind of like okay looking ghost and just the cut is scary like you're like oh yeah but when he cuts he's fucking like and now this goddamn image you know also like the use of split screen where you're seeing two things at the same time and your mind is expected to process them both and they're both scary yeah it's the look on her face and the fire and something falling in the in the gymnasium simultaneously that just creates like a an energy inside me that like most of the time i'm like oh my god i'm like modern horror movies just can't really, they can't, they can't pull that off. Carrie, she just needed somebody to say, you got this mama. So true. This is still probably the best movie about high school ever made. I think in addition to obviously being like a technical high school movies. Yeah. But it's a technical achievement. Yeah. Opposing counsel and high school movies. You got to explain that joke because we weren't recording when that was discussed. We were talking about the great opposing counsels in movies. In the bathroom. That's what happens when these three men go to the bathroom. Do you think we should start bringing mics to the bathroom? They all just, they were like going to go to the bathroom before I record. They came out and we're just being like, well, Kevin Bacon and a few good men. He is very good in that, even though Tracy doesn't like that movie. Moving on. You're up, big dog. Okay. So Carrie. I wanted Carrie. I'm bummed. Carrie and, and Rocky. And I'm up. Okay. Well, I know what two movies I'm going to take. And I don't know what, sorry. I know what one movie I'm going to take. I know what two movies I want. I got to figure out what is the right category for them both. In Blockbuster, I will take the Bad News Bears. Now, some of the, now this is, in my opinion, the best comedy of this year. And also the, the last truly great to me Blockbuster. This is a funky Blockbuster year. It sure is. And Carrie, I was betting on Carrie there. That didn't, that didn't shake out too well for me. Bad News Bears, top five sports movie ever made. One of the funniest and sweetest and sincerest, but also mischievous movies of its time. The Great Michael Ritchie, Walter Matthau, Never Better. There's Buttermaker. Mm-hmm. Elite stuff from, from Jackie Earl Haley and Tana Monial. Do you also believe they should have stopped making Bad News Bears movies after Bad News Bears? Yes. A thousand percent. I do. And I saw this in the movie theater and it was a fantastic time. Yeah. For a little 10, 11 year old boy, it was a great time. Did you say you just checked, you just saw it for the first time? Yeah, I remember that I, I watched it while we were in Vegas for CinemaCon. That's right. And obviously, you know, I, I knew Bad News Bears because of the remakes and also just as kind of a reference point. Like a, a thing that you say now, but I sat down to you and I said, hey, that was so charming. Yeah. I just absolutely delighted by every minute of it. And, and also genuinely funny, which as we've said, you can't say for many of, of these comedies. Yeah. And like a pretty good representation, I think, of what Little League is like, to be honest with you. Oh, yeah. You know, Ritchie, Ritchie had such a great. As I recall. Ritchie just had such a great feel for that kind of middle-class suburban lifestyle. Uh, Smile was his movie right before this about teenage beauty pageants. Uh, and, and that movie, like this one, has a similar kind of sensibility about just showing, showing people a very, very, uh, relatable, uh, milieu. Yeah. And he's really good at, at movies about competition, you know, like Downhill Racer, The Candidate, Smile, The Bad News Bears, Semi-Tough. All, that whole period of movies is all. People competing with one another and what it kind of brings out in you and what it awakens in Buttermaker, what it reveals in these kids. Um, it's a really, really fun movie. His five-movie run, Downhill Racer, The Candidate, uh, Crime Cut, uh, uh, Smile, and then Bad News Bears. Uh, for my money, it's the best five-movie run of, in American movies. Have you said that on this show? I know you've said that to me before. I don't know if you've ever mentioned that. I probably said it on Letterboxd. Damn. There you go, brother. We didn't, didn't we put Downhill Racer? We did. In the Redford Hall of Fame. You didn't say it then. One of our faves. Um. You know, I'm an old man. I repeat myself a lot. It's okay. You know, also, Wildcats, Diggstown, like, he kept making movies in this world. I love Wildcats. He is the great sports movie maker of our time. Anyway, um, feel good about that. Is that me now? Now it's your turn. Don't fuck me. Well. Don't fuck me. I'm gonna take. Go ahead. It's okay. It's fine. You can. No, no, no, no, no. It's fine. It's all right. I'm gonna take. I'm gonna look deep in your eyes right now. And I'm gonna take the Omen and Blockbuster. Okay, good. That's good. Okay. Thank you. Because this, we're running out of. I've heard of this, but I knew that you guys would take it. It's all for you, Damien. Right. And this is also. So his name isn't Damien Omen. It's not Damien Omen. But that's what Bill calls him. Yes. And they recently redid Omen. Son of Jim Omen. Sure. Jim and Judy Omen. Okay, that's good. Yeah. Yeah, thank you. Still a pretty disturbing movie. You know, I enjoy this film. I think I like to laugh with this movie more than I am afraid of it. But there's some great set pieces. It's got a pretty good backbone of story. Gregory Peck's decent in it. Wonderful score. One of the great scores. And there's the woman throwing herself out the window still fucks with you a little bit. Plate glass window. Yeah. That's a great kill. Some good ones. I think it won the Academy Award for score. Am I wrong about that? It's Jerry Goldsmith. Yeah, it's a really good score. A franchise. I don't quite understand. I've tried to. I think I got pretty deep into the Omen franchise when we did Omen on Rewatchables. And I was like watching the Sam Neill version of Grown Up Damien. Yeah. Have you seen the first Omen? Do you know about this? Yes, I did. The movie came out a few years ago. Oh, wait, that was good. That's a terrific movie. That's when I became aware of Damien Omen. From the first Omen. Yes. No. Yeah. Yes. Because it was back in the news. This was a terrific night. With the big bucket of popcorn in the movie theater in 1976. Yeah. Remember it very fondly. And you got it in Blockbuster, right? I did. Yes. Never one of my movies as somebody who's really obsessive about the history of horror. I don't, for whatever, I think, I don't really know how scary it is. I think it's because it's made by Richard Donner, who's clearly like not that interested in horror. And there are things about the movie that he's interested in, obviously, like this kind of like uptight elite couple having something come into their lives that disturbs their gentle upper middle. middle-class lifestyle. But it just kind of feels like everybody's slumming it a little bit. It's like Gregory Peck slumming it a little bit. You say that, but I will say that I like when like actors of his generation, like him, Burt Lancaster, like guys who are just like, yeah, I like working and I'm going to try this out and I'm going to play with like my image and I'm going to play, you know, he's he's made some pretty provocative stuff over the course of his career. He's kind of, I don't know if he's like held up as like still like one of the great Hollywood actors. But it's a good question. Gregory Peck. Well, not only that, but I mean, obviously it's made in the wake of The Exorcist, which just made so much money. Now we can cite a thousand examples of low budget, low rent Exorcist knockoffs. Here was an example of a studio going, we want some of that Exorcist money too. And it's just big budget Hollywood filmmaking. Get us big stars. You know, the kids will come see it for the demonic possession, but we're going to get the adults to come see it. Because Gregory Peck and Lee Remick are in it. Right. And it's parental anxiety. And we went as a family. I remember my folks wouldn't have gone. My folks did not go to see The Exorcist in the movie theater. And it's in a tradition of like the haunted child going back to the bad seat and movies like that too. So there's some tradition there. I'm flaking. I noticed you're wearing the Steely Dan Gaucho sweatshirt. If you wanted to be on time with 76, I think it would have been the Royal Scam. Do you have a Royal Scam sweatshirt? I don't. Okay. Well, so much for that. I did have a Grizzly t-shirt. Yeah. The film Grizzly. Yeah. But I didn't wear that. Oh, too bad. One of my favorite traditions is when you correct people and or movies for having an anachronistic movie, a music cues or references in the film world. Since you brought it up, I should. Oh, yeah. Please show the back. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. And. Nice. That's really nice. Now, are you purposefully evoking the era right now? With your garb? I'm not. Oh, like he's like, like he's like the guy in Gaucho, like try again. Like I'm dressing for the 1976 podcast? Yeah, I'm just asking. I did not dress for the 1976 podcast. Sorry. You got two now. I do. Okay. I know what I'm going to do. Whoa. Ian, Oscar. Because many of my Oscar picks are already off the board because, again, of the way this draft works. So I will be taking Marathon Man in Oscar. I'm sorry. Were you going to take it? Well, I honestly just don't like any of the other blockbusters. And I'm trying to take movies that I at least feel like I have a relationship to. But this is one of my favorite. This would have been my second pick, maybe, honestly. It's so good. And it really is where our interests meet. Roy Scheider in Paris. A spy thriller, Roy Scheider in Paris. The movie, for me, does drop off slightly in quality. Spoiler alert, once Roy Scheider is no longer in the picture. Well, then it just becomes a movie about dentistry, which you're not a fan of. Yeah, sure. But I don't know. It's true. I think Marathon Man is probably why, you know? What a zag for you. A movie about a dentist. Right, sure. But is he using the dentistry for good? Well, he's a Nazi. Sure. So, you know, not really. Yeah. Roy Scheider in Paris, spy thriller. Really, really delightful. And Olivier was nominated in Supporting Actor, I believe. Then, in drama. Hold on. Can I tell a quick Marathon Man story? Yeah, please. So, Mike Williams. My friend, T.J. Jagadowski. Do you know him? No. He's a great improviser. One of the greatest improvisers alive. You might know him from the Sonic commercials. He was on them for a long time. Very funny guy. Anyway, he's in Chicago, and he's on the train in Chicago. And he's on the train, and there's a young couple on the train. 20 years old. And the boy is explaining to the girl the plot of Three Days of the Condor. He's watched the movie, and he's telling her the story of Three Days of the Condor. Three Days of the Condor on the train. Right. T.J. has his back to them. And he's fascinated, not only that this 20-year-old kid has watched Three Days of the Condor, not only that he feels the need to describe the entire plot to his girlfriend, but that he's so good at it. It's a really replete summation of the plot points of Three Days of the Condor. And T.J.'s kind of fascinated to hear this kid, because, you know, there's some, it's a convoluted story. Sure. Yeah, absolutely. Takes her all the way through it until he gets to the climax of Three Days of the Condor, and he says, and then homeboy made him eat a bunch of diamonds. T.J. so wanted to turn and ask why he was like that. Did you fall asleep on the couch? What was happening? I'm watching one and wake up at the end of the other one. That is amazing. That's the most, like, I plagiarize this from AI I've ever heard. Can you imagine if you just took every movie with a twist and then Brad Pitt gets out into the desert and then homeboy makes him eat a bunch of diamonds? Kevin Spacey. How strange. Oh, that's funny. I think of it every time I think of Marathon Man. We just watched it recently, me and the nanny. Great fun. Terrific movie. Good movie, yeah. Delightful movie. Okay. What I'm going to do here, and this is taking a little bit of risk, but I think that this is what would probably go next if I know my audience. So in drama, I'm going to take Mikey and Nikki. The Elaine May masterpiece, that explained men to me, you know? And I spend a lot of time with them, even though I'm not privy to the bathroom conversations. If you watch Husbands and Mikey and Nikki in succession, it's true. Those are all the boys. Those are the boys in your life. It really is. You know, and now I'm raising the next generation. That's right. So I'm trying to study. I'm trying to learn. I'm trying to avoid the mistakes of the past, which are enumerated in excruciating detail in Mikey and Nikki. At least none of them are gangsters. Sure. As far as you know. Yeah. You mean in Mikey and Nikki or in our life? In our life. Yeah, as far as I know. But we don't know what's going to happen to my sons. That's a great point. You took that in drama? I took it in drama. Okay. Great, great, great movie. Wonderful movie. I would just add that Cassavetes is very powerful to me personally. He's your speed, huh? Yeah. Even, you know, given, despite all the problems, very evident in this film and everything else. I just, I really, really get it. Your board is very strong. Thank you. She's looking very solid. Yeah. A good, good picking spot, I would say. It'd be nice to have the number one pick. I think. Yes, but she's chosen well. Completely. Thank you. I'm not going to just put it all on the spot. She's chosen well. It's not over yet. Okay. This movie is, I think a lot of like our guys are very influenced by this movie. Yes. And a lot of the tone where, this movie doesn't have the tone of a gangster movie, even though it's about gangsters and it makes a lot of choices. And on the verge of a nervous breakdown. It is. It's a lot of like the personal anxieties. Philadelphia men also. On the verge of a nervous breakdown. Even down to Ned Beatty as the hitman, who is the most unlikely of hitmen, who's kind of bumbling and not suave and not cold-blooded. Big year for Ned Beatty. Awesome year. Network, Mikey and Nikki, and Silver Streak. That's right. We may get to Silver Streak. We'll see. You grabbed two? I did. Marathon Man and Mikey and Nikki. Very good picks. CR, you're up. In action thriller, I'm going to take Outlaw Josie Wales. God fucking damn it. God fucking damn it. One of the great Clint Eastwood movies. One of his best performances. A very interesting film to read about the making of. Philip Kaufman's involvement with it. The Eastwood rule that came in because you're not allowed to get rid of a director and replace yourself, replace the director with yourself if you're the star apparently. Which I think, I wonder if this has happened kind of behind the scenes a couple of times, but at least officially this became like a DGA thing, I think. A story about a Confederate soldier who tries to run to Texas after a huge confrontation with the Union and disappear from the war and disappear from a life of violence and the violence and the war just won't let him go away, get away. So absolutely gorgeous movie to look at and to think about his style evolving out of his experiences with Leon and his experiences on TV and everything and really starting to find his own voice. And his own, his own editing rhythm, his own photography, is this Sertiz shot this? Yeah. Fucking incredible looking movie and, and a beautiful 4K. I'm so glad somebody said it before I did. I'm so glad I did not have to break. A beautiful, like honestly get that steelbook? Just I just got the Warner one, just couldn't let it go, could you? I think that this is in the conversation for his best performance too, because he's asked to play something that he very rarely does. He rarely plays in movies where he literally breaks down crying in this movie when his family is killed and he, he resisted that a lot of times as a star, he didn't really let himself get into that. And he's also got, what is the name of the native American actor in this film? Chief Dan George. Chief Dan George there and their chemistry is so wonderful in this movie. This was, God, I really, I maybe should have taken this in the first go round because it's definitely one of my favorite Clint movies. Yeah. And I was, you know, you can also feel this. This is a guy who's watched Kurosawa movies. Like this is a guy who actually has like a, a kind of international sensibility when it comes to applying it to Western. So it just, and this is also one I used to watch with my dad all the time. This would, this would be on TBS. This would be on movie channels or we had on tape and it would just kind of be on a lot. This Impale Rider. Little bit of a pickle here. Yeah, you are. You are. Cause I got two picks coming down the track. Yeah. You sure do. Yeah. I don't think there's, there's not, I don't think there's anything that could be taken away from me that would devastate me at this point. So I need to just follow my truth for the rest of this draft, which means I will lose this draft, but have a slate that I enjoy. Okay. Just going to foreground that. Okay. Cause there's a couple of movies I wanted to get coming in here. Has everybody picked Blockbuster? I have not. You have not. You have? I did. You have. I have. I picked, that's why I picked the Omen so early. Got it. Boy. Yeah. It's okay. You have Network. No, I'm very, I'm very pleased about that. It's not a, it's not a disaster. And you have Bad News Bears, which is incredibly charming. In thriller and action, I will take Assault on Precinct 13. Okay. Still glad you did this. Which is, uh, John Carpenter's second feature film, um, and among his best, uh, and as directly inspired by Howard Hawks' Rio Bravo and as a kind of trapped in one place shootout movie, um. I think it's a good one. genre filmmaker who is, is one of my one of my all-time faves watching this last night and i i forgot how i'm unnerving those opening scenes with the gang driving around la with the with the rifle with the silencer pointed out the car window and they keep stopping at different people and eyeing them up and then they they fuck up that ice cream man what who is what is the actor's name is it austin stoker what happened to austin stoker is he still with us did he pass i don't know let me take a look yeah i guess he passed in 2022 and have you seen the remake of this i did it's ethan hawk and laurence fishburne and i kind of liked it oh who made it do you know i'm not sure and while we're on the topic have we seen the remake of bad news bears oh sure richard linklater it's not very good yeah disappointing billy bopp interesting that both of these movies have been remade jean-francois richet who also made no other movies that i've ever heard of not a movie that needed to be remade assault on precinct 13 um good pick thanks was that in in your realm of interest absolutely okay i certainly had it on my list wasn't trying to take anything from you per se but you know all right i'm going to take a bit of a category category reach but i think it qualifies in action thriller i'm going to take the killing of a chinese bookie this is fucked up this was my other yeah it was literally either assault on precinct 13 or this okay uh i chose mikey and nicky and instead of this for my there were two cassavetes on the board this year but this is the one that my husband was willing to watch with me he was like hey i heard you're doing 76 what do you got to watch and then and then he picked killing tracy bookie which cut hmm the longest one see i don't i disagree i like the shorter one i do too i think those the well there's a great story right where there is gazzara who's like this is too fucking long oh no i thought it was the reverse i thought it was gazzara was like i gotta you gotta show me when i'm doing this and and then cassavetes is shorter yeah the direct yeah the director's kind of shorter it's 108 minutes versus like 100 no i thought it was that the theatrical cut i thought they screened the movie at 135 minutes and gazzara didn't like it oh and he made him kind of he said maybe i'm wrong maybe maybe it's the other way around no i think now i think you might i thought he wasn't done editing and they were like you have to put this out but then the edit the 108 minute version he moves those scenes all over the place like the movie is very different very different opening um and there's a lot less stuff i guess in the nightclub i've just got uh a lot more patience for a mr sophistication than i did as a younger man now i can sit and watch mr sophistication all night long um this is a lot of watch mr sophistication all night long um this is uh man fucked up this draft uh this movie i think is one of the better movies about where the the lead character is like a stand-in for the filmmaker where like the idea of a person who's like what i'm really interested in is like the design and the world and the artistry that i'm putting into this nightclub and everybody's there to watch girls dance and to be entertained yeah um and that you come to show business and is for the the pomp and the circumstance you don't come for the artistry and cassavetes being totally tortured i love that idea that's in the movie that's so at the forefront of it all the scenes of him just calling the clubbing like no no who's on stage right now what song are they singing it's why is she out there alone it's really really really good about los angeles public transportation yeah you know best use of playboy playmates i think ever in a in a film over apocalypse now oh you you got me you got me but those are not real are they real playmates one is Colin Camp's in it, right? What a week for Colin Camp on the big picture. That's right. Happy for her. Oh, there's another great story about this where he asked a whole bunch of studio heads to come sit and be in the crowd of the club, but then he like blurred all their faces purposefully so you can't see them, which is just like the way that the lighting is set up. So they thought they were being gratified by being able to appear in a movie and then he fucked them over, which is such a little. He's such a little fucker. I love when Seymour Cassell and all the guys take Gazzara to like the deli on Sunset and they're just like all like huddled in this deli drinking beers and like are like, so let's take out a third mortgage on your house or whatever to pay off your poker debts. I always am happy to see Timothy Carey in a movie and he's great in here and I also have special affection for this because I saw it at. I saw it in Dallas. I saw it in Texas with a Q&A with Cassavetes afterwards. Oh, shit. Excited to hear Cassavetes talking about money. What did he say? Like a guy trying to get money together to make a movie. Yeah. He's like that was all he was about. So interesting. Okay, you got another pick. Ew. Does everybody have drama? I don't. I do. I do. So interesting. The thriller action is all filled up. I feel like that's a healthy category. No? It is. It was a little bit about the last minute category shift. Swap for you. So I just wasn't as. It may have worked out for you really well. In drama, I'm going to take Lifeguard. Whew. You are the number one Lifeguard fan on this podcast. You've brought this film to so many people. No, I haven't. You should watch it. I think you would like it. I think you would too. You would really like it. I'm sure that I would. This is the. Sam Elliott. Sam Elliott. I was just thinking about the pants. Has that episode come out yet? That has not come out. Oh, yeah. Has physical media come out by the time people have heard this? Okay, so complimenting people on their pants and complimenting Sam Elliott on his pants is what kind of. Right, right, right. I was just thinking about pants. Same story, yeah. Yeah. I was going to forget about that. It's been a long week. It's just a terrific movie. Carrie and I were just. We watched it together. We'd never seen it. We were both just kind of knocked out. By what a good film it is. And a film that, that as Tim was saying the other day on the podcast, it kind of gets deeper as you get further into it. It seems to be a very light thing when you start and by the end of it, it's actually, it actually gets kind of deep. And it's a great Sam Elliott performance. Early Ann Archer and maybe first Kathleen Quinlan appearance in Lifeguard. I think I'm done. Okay. Fenrock. I've got another pick, huh? So I'm currently missing comedy and horror, comedy or horror, Oscar and wild card. Oscar. What a fascinating Oscar year. Most of the big dogs were taken up front. There's some good movies left though. Yeah. Some movies I really like. I think, I think what I'll do is I'll just take a moment and make a movie I really love, which is Harlan County, USA in Austin. You fucking dick. You fucking mother fucker. Yeah. God. You fucking prick. Fuck you and the horse you fucked. Sorry. Sorry. Now, you guys did that 900th show and that little boy listens to the- I know. Yeah. Not anymore he does that. Nico. And if you're listening, I just want to say, fuck you, Sean. You fucking dickhead. Listen, Nico, it's just me and you here. Forget about these three. I hope his name is Nico. He's sweet. He made Sean cry. Unpleasant. I was so touched by that. I really was. It was really so lovely. That was really wonderful. Some real factory owner shit right here for him. Yeah. I mean, I have probably said on the pod before, I think this might be the greatest American documentary ever made. Barbara Koppel's film about what happens in a Kentucky coal mine and the company that owns it and the folks who work in it and the way in which they organize and stand in the face of the corporation. It's a movie about real people that shows real people as they are in a direct way, which is very hard to do. And this movie, it being recognized in its time, I think is really fascinating and really powerful at winning Best Documentary Feature. It's that collision of social impact and filmmaking artistry. And Koppel's made a lot of really great movies over the years. But this one, similar to some of the movies that we took at the top of the draft, also feels as though it is not expiring, still very relevant. Maybe more so than it has been a long time. Yeah, yeah, and very watchable. I mean, there's sequences in this. I mean, even just the descending into the mines in the beginning, I mean, where you're like, well, this is as good as anything in any action movie from this year. And some real, like, I don't really understand, like, there are moments where you're like, I can't believe there was a camera here for this. Yeah, she also just, there's a filmmaking style where you could have made this movie as purely observational, but she gets to this just into camera testimony from people on the scene frequently where you see them and they don't feel like blinkered by the idea of media. It's not like a performance that they're giving because they're being asked a question with someone holding a camera. It feels authentic, it seems like an insufficient word to explain the way in which they're communicating about what's going on. And some of that is the trust that Koppel has built with the people in the community. Some of that is just people not knowing how to be any other way. But yeah, this movie is like a, is a 101. For documentary filmmaking. I was going to rewatch it for this draft and didn't, and then realized, oh, it's okay. It's pretty good. It's pretty imprinted in your mind. I feel the same way. I watched it in college. I probably watched it one time since, but definitely one of my faves. I think on DVD in the Criterion collection, but I don't think it's been upgraded. No, not on Blu-ray. I would love a Barbara Koppel box set, actually. I only say this for the kids out there who might want to check this movie out. Yeah, no, it's important. Yeah. I just didn't want you to think I was turning this into a physical media podcast, I recognize. All right, CR, you have a pick here, bud. What do you have left, Chris? I got drama, wild card, and comedy, horror, sci-fi. And in drama, I'm going to take Kings of the Road. Nice. This is Vin Vendors' rather epic, but also very intimate road movie about a very depressed therapist and a film projection repairman driving around Germany and talking about stuff and about their lives and going to hang out with exes and their dads. And really just trying to, you know, it's basically a blueprint for Linklater. It's a blueprint for Jarmusch. It's shot by Robbie Muller in an extraordinary black and white photography. It's a hangout movie, and it's a thinker, but it's kind of just like you can just kick back and watch these guys wash their clothes and walk around in circles and fill up the tank with gas and stuff like that. It's very durational. It's very just watching life unfold. But for me, it's the cinematography that I really come back to. Muller winds up, you know, obviously shooting stuff like Repo Man and To Live and Die in L.A. and Jarmusch movies like Down by Law, I believe, and, you know, is one of my favorite cinematographers in film history. So to watch him kind of cook and watch him just really get like an expansive canvas like this, it's just a really lovely movie. The long movie is our call. Three hours almost, I think, yeah. 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Monitoring is recommended. Common side effects are sleepiness, dizziness, nausea, dry mouth, feeling tired, and diarrhea. These aren't all the side effects. Ask your doctor about Caplyta. Learn more at caplyta.com or call 888-252-4824. Okay, Amanda. Yes, I have two picks. In Blockbuster, I will take a movie that I like, even if the rest of you are being snobby, A Star is Born. The 1976 version starring Barbra Streisand. I don't know why I always have to come on this podcast and be like, Barbra Streisand is important. Barbra Streisand. Barbra Streisand is important. And the movies that she makes that made millions of dollars at the box office are also important. And you all just kind of like stare at me. What? But it's true. It's not a good movie, but okay. Here's why I'm staring at you. I've never seen any version of A Star is Born. Really? I've never seen this one. But I don't mean that in a cocky way. You know what? Chris Christopherson is kind of bringing it in this, in my opinion. Sure. Well, that's what he's doing. And so, and they, you know, they have some heat that I responded to at the age that I was. Such a boring movie. That's fine. You can say that. And I had a nice time. And it was the second most, second highest earning movie of the year. So there. It was a very big hit. Yeah. Um, you've not seen a single A Star is Born film. No. Let's unpack that. I don't have a good reason. Okay. There's no, it's not, it's not like I'm boycotting A Star is Born. I mean, Judy Garland in the second one is incredible. I'm told that's the one I have to see. I mean, that is one of the great screen performances, in my opinion. You really should watch that. And Amanda and I both absolutely love Bradley Cooper's version. You might disagree with us, as you often do on contemporary films. How can I disagree with you if I haven't seen it? Is it because you hate films that center women? Like, what's the issue? I'm not responding to your tyrannical questions. Good. Good for you. Good. It's nice to see. Welcome. Yeah. But you will and you do hate films that center women, as I understand it. Is that correct? That's right. Do not submit to the tyranny. Okay. That's one that's in Blockbuster. Yes, Blockbuster. And then in Comedy Horror, this is one of the international ones where, depending on where you are, you get a different year, but this, this film, performance from this film was nominated. It was nominated for the Oscars that we keep referencing and it was released in the U.S. in 1976, so I will be taking Cousin Cuisine, which I had not seen until preparing for this and was completely delighted by. It's a French Four Weddings and a Funeral and, you know, and it's organized. It's a romantic comedy organized around two people who are cousins, but by marriage. So there's no kind of bloodline issues going on here. And it is France. They are also married. Unlike in Four Weddings and a Funeral, both of them. And they keep meeting over a series of family functions and then ultimately decide that, you know, it's happy ending that they want to be together. They are believable, but all of the family functions and sort of the weird slice of French 70s life is so funny and memorable and every weird character. It's like gets a moment and makes you laugh. And I, you know, they're not a lot of not a lot of great comedies and certainly not a lot of romantic comedies. I love this. Yeah, it's really good. Terrific. But is it Marie-Christine Baron? Yes. Yeah. And she was nominated for Best Actress. Anyway, delightful movie. Did you know there's an American remake? I did, but I've never seen it. It's called Cousins and I believe it's made by Joel Schumacher. Sure. With Bill Peterson and Sean Young. And a bunch of other people. This was discussed when we spoke about To Live and Die in L.A. on the rewatchables because this was one of the movies that Peterson chose as he was kind of dawning as a movie actor that didn't really hit and making that choice instead of some other. He was he was offered in this exact same time frame. The film Goodfellas reportedly turned it down to do this Joel Schumacher movie. Didn't work out. Good pick though. Thank you. Very good pick. This film was nominated for not. One, not two, but three Academy Awards. Thanks. CR, it's back to you. Wait a minute. Didn't you have two? Did you make two? Yeah, I did A Star is Born, which you've never seen because you don't, you know, care about a life in the arts. Having having heard those picks, do you still feel that Amanda is winning this draft? Yeah, I do. OK. I mean, it's fine. We did let women into the frame, but, you know, it's OK. It's OK. I have Faye Dunaway's in a film. Yeah, you respect women. In horror comedy. sci fi, I am going to take the town that dreaded sundown which is uh intriguing you know it has a mixed reputation for a very good reason it's a very scary film that then has a very stupid b plot of the law enforcement trying to capture this serial killer called the phantom who's terrorizing texarkana i believe yes it's made by charles pierce who's from arkansas and made a bunch of really interesting 70s genre movies set in and around the southwest um and used to distribute them out of the back of his pickup truck driving around theater to theater and made fortunes uh but when you watch town the dreaded sundown it's just kind of like especially the opening is really inventive with this voiceover of uh almost like you're watching a documentary about you know people getting back from world war ii and this town that's thriving and then this killer that starts terrorizing couples but when the cops the texas rangers i think come into this it kind of turns into smoking the bandit a little bit and there's a lot of like gee willikers where are we gonna get the gas for this car and uh i don't he was just really playing to a lot of a lot of different kinds of audiences but the phantom is a really scary slasher and i think you can see elements of like zodiac in this you know i don't know if fincher likes this movie this was actually remade this century i don't remember what year the town the dreaded sundown remake came out but it's pretty good and it's uh in the movie the remake it is about how they made the first movie about the phantom and the town so it's a little like 2017 ish around that time pretty decent movie though yeah and uh yeah so i'll do that for horror nice interesting how many movies were remade from this year yeah um all right that's a good good good film a good pick i think i need to do i need to pick from that category i think i do i'm missing wild card and comedy and horror and you tell me if you think this is a comedy because i do um i'll take buffalo bill and the indians or sitting bulls history lesson that you're gonna see in the world okay yeah it's a comedy it's a comedy sure i think um uh yeah sure what do you think it is i i don't remember a lot of like laugh out louds on that one it's uh it's a cynical view of of the world and i guess entertainment an embittered satire of the the falsity of the american myth okay um it's uh what would the it's not lol it's like laughing silently to myself this is a movie that we did speak about on the paul newman hall of fame episode this is the first of two collaborations that he had with robert altman one of my faves um a movie about buffalo bill cody in the later stages of his life after hiring um a publicist and a producer and putting on a big old circus show in the middle of the west where he reenacts some of his quote-unquote greatest achievements along with a whole cast of characters unbelievable cast in this film um that includes burt lancaster joel gray geraldine chaplin um big harvey kytel year it sure is i might try to grab maybe you'll try to grab another harvey kytel movie before we're done here um i think this is one of the great underrated uh altman movies and like very much in keeping with this obsession that he has with people who put up a front and don't reveal the truth about themselves do you still have comedy i uh took carrie in comedy horror okay just out of curiosity if if we started throwing things all over the studio and saying you can't have it's in comedy i'm curious what your comedy would be it would either be up the russ meyer movie okay which actually came up on the physical media episode and i watched for the first time yesterday had a nice time did it without my family at home yeah um it is very it's very funny uh i'll bet you laughed more it up than you did out loud at buffalo bill certainly yeah um i was titillated as well that's uh topic for another time it's great uh the physical media high council which is really all that's all those guys are up to there are some horror movies that i like that are left on the board but i probably would also consider silent movie the mel brooks film which i think is not like one of his best but it's one that i okay um but you know what there's more pics to be made so you're you're up for two i i saw buffalo bill for the first time in preparation for this draft i've never seen it before a little on the nose okay i i love this altman style i love all the cast i love i think that newman is fantastic in the movie it's cool that they did it but also it's they they are belaboring the point a little bit uh oh god damn joe like a star is born really subtle sorry filmmaking joel gray man joel gray was a standout for me in that movie i thought joel gray was superb he's really great uh burt lancaster hated making the movie and did not like robert altman i'm not surprised by that at all i'm always supposed to be shooting my scenes is that your burt lancaster no my burt lancaster i love this dirty town i have oscar and i have wild card left and i'm making both of those picks right now aren't they are you are those aren't the last two picks then we go back up we sure do what do you guys have left i just have wild card wild card wild card oh it's like that is it but i would have used my wild card for harland county if right it was on my wild card but it was apparently also my wild card pick for 1975 so was the 75 draft when he took barry linden and you went uh was that that did i do that for barry linden yes why i don't know why because you're a brat but why why did i i don't remember this or maybe it was an oscars draft or something it was more recently we were in this room and you were like barry linden and you just went like it was really one of the funnier anyway but i like barry linden well perhaps i got the moment okay wrong i'd have to go back and see i'm going to take out on movie drafts i'm going to take in wild card the man who fell to earth uh what category would this movie be eligible in i was like that's why i asked about sci-fi yeah i have to say there are some movies your relationship to them changes over the years as you watch them and sometimes you go back to a movie godfather part two and you go i'm not liking this as much as i used to like this at the time i was watching it and i was like oh my god absolutely but what's thrilling is when you see a movie and you don't like it and then you go back and you revisit it and you go oh there's more there than i thought and then you see it a third time and you go how did i miss this that's how i felt about michael mann's black hat there you go well that's how i feel about the man who fell to earth my third viewing of this kind of knocked my socks off perhaps due to the beautiful 4k presentation on the studio canal steel studio canal in the room with you now you i appreciate all the work that studio canal does i haven't seen this particular 4k transfer do you guys know the man who fell to earth no i haven't you haven't seen it david bowie uh rip yeah i know that uh candy clark great performance so that's my wild card and in oscar i'm going to take you've been really stumping for nick rogue on these pods since he came back here he he there's a pocket there's a nick rogue pocket it didn't last long but it's great i'm fascinated by those later ones though insignificance and eureka and those movies are interesting right the witches the witches uh angelica when do you introduce your kids to the witches pretty scary i saw it very early on and it fucked me up i was a big role doll reader i the witches is my favorite of the role doll books and so i will probably start with that but it's book wise it is pretty scary and that's i would say that my kind of line for my kids right now is is it gonna cause a nightmare that i have to deal with you know at like 2 a.m we've had a lot of like i had a dream about a scary robot recently because of star wars so witches would be it would be intense um but amazing movie i think maybe danny the champion of the world is my favorite role doll book have you read that one uh i was not a big doll guy really good movie about a boy and his father who was a mechanic or because you like i should say because you like dolls uh views on uh no he's an anti-semite i i i reject that about him right i can play the game i know how to respond to these questions and i've been writing them my whole life i uh no he was a he was a wretched anti-semite but a wonderful writer and creator of stories uh did you get to see giant yet no uh the the stage play with john lithgow where he plays role doll oh interesting probably gonna win the tony award for best actor lithgow is gonna win that yeah have you seen lithgow yeah i've seen lithgow yeah i've seen lithgow yeah i've seen lithgow yeah no i will not be going to see it when i go back to new york next week i'm going to see a different play in protest of dolls views no just out of my own personal curiosities uh what are you saying instead becky shaw oh okay i hear it's great alden aaron rake i hear it's great patrick ball from the pit i hear alden's great in it too i can't can't wait you've you've always supported alden i have in the theater i do in oscar i'm going to take seven beauties linda vert muller's uh movie starring giancarlo genini was he nominated for best actor giancarlo genini I do not think he was. He was he. He was nominated. He was nominated for best actor. Great, funny, horrifying, hilarious, upsetting, all those things. And a great performance. He's really great in this movie. I put this sort of in the bucket of this is a movie you kids should see if you haven't seen it. Kids ought to go. Have you seen Seven Beauties? No. Go out and see Seven Beauties. One of the great things about this year to Amanda's selection of, is it Cousin Cousin? Cousin Cousin. Get ready for Cannes, my guy. It's never been one of my skills. I'll do my best. Just like now, a lot of international films would find their way into the nominations across the 1970s. And were pretty solidly represented throughout those years. So that's it for you. You're done. Yeah. How do you feel? You have Carrie, though. I think that's pretty important. In more ways than one. Yeah, there you go. That's true. In some ways, that's all you have. What did you pick, Tracy? Just you. I got a wild card here, huh? Gosh. Well, I don't know. I don't know what I want to choose. What's my favorite movie that's left on the board? I don't know, Sean. Tell us. I will, momentarily. Okay. Do you know what you're going to do for wild card, Christopher? I'm trying to decide between three things. Oh, wow. Look at you. I'm wondering if you've seen a movie that I just watched and how you would feel about it. Bernardo Bertolucci's 1900. Okay. All five hours? I don't know. Is 1900 eligible in this year? Why? Because it lasts longer than the year? I don't really know. Didn't it come out in 77 or 78? It wasn't there for that film. So, I mean, it's got some. You weren't considering it? But, yeah. Because it was not in the English language or what was the reason for that? No, because I find it to be quite dull and somewhat offensive. I'll tell you what. I'll just keep some consistency with my all-in affection. You're just really on your principles today. Yeah. And I'll take Alan Rudolph's Welcome to L.A., which is not his first film, but his first film under Altman's guidance. One of the first films. The first film released by. Lionsgate. Not the Lionsgate that we know, but the production company that Robert Altman launched on his own and released a handful of films. Only four that he did not direct. This was the first of them. It's a movie, a kind of arch drama about vapid people in Los Angeles gathering and thinking that they have problems when, in fact, they do not. It features many of the players from the Altman classics. Keith Campbell. Carradine, Geraldine Chaplin, Harvey Keitel appears in this movie. Lauren Hutton's in this? Lauren Hutton, Sally Kellerman, Sissy Spacek is in this movie. It's kind of centered around this songwriter-musician played by Carradine, who. Can I just stop you for one second about this? One of the things that stopped me from seeing this film for such a long time is on the cover of the video box, Carradine has the worst facial hair, perhaps in American history. Well, in the film, he does. Yeah. I mean, it is really an abomination. It's kind of like a chin whisker that he's got going. It recalls Shaggy from Scooby-Doo. But he's supposed to just be like the coolest guy moving through LA. But he's also, the movie is also very cleverly like, this is the nepo, right? Like his father is a powerful music executive. It's kind of put him in position to be this much sought after songwriter. Richard Baskin, speaking of your girl, Barbara Streisand, who has dated Barbara Streisand for years, plays a singer in the film and wrote the song. I mean, that's one of the songs that are performed in the movie. Just a really kind of acidic, seemingly soft, but very jagged portrait of, honestly, a milieu that's very familiar to me. I just feel like I know a lot of the people in this movie, even though it was made 50 years ago. Cool. My turn? Your turn. So, wild card. Gosh. We all feel a little grim here in the later rounds. I just, like, you know. That's the thing. The thing is, these lineups cannot stack up to the 75 lineups. That's why. There's not as much depth. I don't know. I've got All the President's Men. Yeah, we know what you've got. And Marathon Man. Yeah, you've got A Star is Born. And Mikey and Nikki. And Cousin Cousin. Cousin Cousin is great. I had the fucking Stepford Wives in 75, which is. It's an incredible film. I'm sure. But also, kind of, belabors the point. We get it. Oh, my God. Since when is subtlety so important to you? This is not something you've expressed in previous episodes of this show. Just saying. Just saying. I can speak my truth, which is, you know. I think I'll just, for the hell of it, take Logan's Run. Sure. Okay. Which probably winds up influencing more stuff that I liked than me loving Logan's Run itself. But is a real head fuck of a movie when you think about, like, you know, some of the things that the character goes through. It's basically about a guy who, you know, it's like a sort of Hunger Games-y society where, after a certain amount of time, people get, like, sort of farmed out into. into a competition to see if they can still live, keep going on living. Let me tell you all about it. And, yeah, I believe Michael York plays the main character, who is one of the hunters of those people, but then becomes the hunted and learns a lot of truths about society in the process. To Tracy's point about the Rocky films, do you think that we should all tap out at 30? That at 30 years old, we should be eliminated from society? No, I'm thriving. I'm thriving. It would be an interesting way to start. You know, thinning out the amount of chairs in this draft is to, you know, it's like once you hit a certain amount of drafts, you're done. The bad news would be that this show would never have existed. So, yeah, I'll go with Logan's Run for last one there. Okay, Amanda, you've got one final pick. I have Wild Card, and I'm going to do a discovery, another discovery that I made while watching this, and also another documentary. My original plan was to do Grey Gardens in Wild Card, which is also. What I did in 1975. So maybe I think the lineups are comparable because for me, they were going to be sort of the same. Anyway, I'm going to do a different documentary, Daguerreotype, which an Agnes Varda film that was 75 in France, 76 in the UK, in the US, so it's eligible, and is a very charming and interesting snapshot of life on the Rue Daguerre, which is the street. It's where Agnes Varda lived for decades, and it starts with the perfume shopkeeper. Yeah, the shopkeepers, yeah. And it is mostly about the shopkeepers, but it starts with one perfume-esque shopkeeper and his wife. Like her daughter goes in? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and she's interested in them and how they got there and starts following everybody else along the street and asks them, you know, when they came to Paris. And what they do and follows them along and follows some pretty like disgruntled shop goers. But, you know, it's the 70s, so they don't think to just be like, no, no, you can't record me. And is idiosyncratic in the way that all Varda's films are. At some point, she starts asking them about their dreams, like literally what their dreams are, not like, what do you hope to be? It's not an American thing. It's a French thing. And, you know, it's just a way of looking at the world that. Only Agnes Varda can. And so the documentary communicates that and you can experience it from anybody else's camera. And I liked it a lot. That's awesome. It's a really good movie. I don't know that movie. Yeah. I don't know it at all. Definitely worth checking out. Great. Very short, as I recall. I want to say like 80 minutes or something. 80 minutes, yeah. And it's streaming on Criterion right now. Bang. Honorable mentions. I already regret my wild card because there are some good honorable mentions. Well, let's talk about them. Yeah, I'm looking at my honorable mentions and thinking it looks better than my lineup. I was like, how the hell did that happen? Okay. Roman Polanski's The Tenant. Just rewatched it recently. Excellent. That guy knows how to shoot an apartment. Cars That Ate Paris. Yep. What's this, 76? I thought so. Okay. I honestly don't remember. I think so, yeah. Two pulpy crime-ish movies, one of which, or maybe both of which, I got off of Tracy's Letterboxd. Um, Small Town in Texas and Jackson County Jail. Oh, yeah. Jackson County Jail with Tommy Lee Jones. That's Tommy Lee, yeah. That is a fucked up movie. Uh, and Police Python 357, which is an Alan Corneau movie that is basically French Dirty Harry with Yves Montaigne and is in a great Radiance box set. I was expecting you to take Yakuza Graveyard, which is also 76. No? Yeah. Um, I like to expand beyond the Yakuza, you know, and sometimes I, I wanted, you know. Okay. You know, there's another, uh, Brian De Palma movie from this year called Obsession, which is a movie that I think is bad that I love. Um. Well. One of the crazier plots that I've ever heard or seen is Obsession. Why don't you recap it right now? Quite a turn at the end of this movie. Yeah. What's that? Why don't you recap it in three sentences right now? Don't, don't, don't spoil it. Okay. Well, people can. And then he made him eat the diamonds. Then the homeboy made him eat the diamonds. I need a bunch of diamonds. The Ebert quote around obsession is, I don't just like movies like this. I relish them. Sometimes overwrought excess can be its own reward. That's boss. More honorable mentions? Well, we should probably mention King Kong, which is not a very good movie, but certainly had delights for a boy who turned 11 in 1976. That was one of two more remaining blockbusters that were not selected. The others are Silver Streak, the Pryor and Gene Wilder film with Jill Klayberg. Which opens with just like 30 minutes of Gene Wilder seducing Jill Klayberg in a way that I did not find to be credible. Did you re-watch it? I did. Or watch it on a train? Yes, on a train. It was a big hit. Huge movie. I saw it in the movie theater, and I'm telling you, when Richard Pryor appears, he shows up about halfway through the movie. The movie theater just became electric. He just electrified the crowd. That's why that movie was such a big hit. One of two movies in which he did that exact thing, because he shows up about halfway through Car Wash, and the movie Car Wash comes to life. The other movie was The Enforcer, the other Clint Eastwood movie from that year, which is the third Dirty Harry movie. Not my favorite. I don't like it. Yeah, not very good. Tyne Daly? Yeah, Tyne Daly. What else you got? Fellini's Casanova. Never seen it. Not for all tastes. Obviously. Fellini. There's amazing things in it. The Front. I just watched this again yesterday. Martin Ritt's movie with Woody Allen about people. Blacklist, right? Blacklist. People naming names. Very good movie. Zero Mostel. Very good. I like it a lot. I think it's very good. I think because of everything with Woody in the last 30 years, maybe he doesn't have the same place he does, because it's just effectively a pure drama. You got to check out the newspapers. Face to Face, Ingmar Bergman from this year, which I watched for the first time yesterday. It's not Bergman's best, but Liv Ullman, goddamn, man. Very good. She's very good. I agree with you. She's really something. Hollywood Boulevard, a terrific drive-in movie. I mean, it's no more than a drive-in movie. It's an 85-minute comic romp. Very low budget. Very Roger Corman. Alan Arkish, right? Yeah. Edited by Joe Dante. You mentioned Up already, but I think Up is really fun and really funny. My wife liked it a lot. That makes you seem like not a pervert, but all right. Yeah. Mr. Klein, I think was made in 76, but wasn't available to us because it wasn't released until later, but it would have been my drama choice for sure had it been available. Joseph Losey. Heart of Glass. Werner Herzog's movie I watched last night for the first time. Do you know this movie? I do. In which all the actors are under hypnosis. They've all been hypnotized. For how? To what end? It's about a 17th century Bavarian community, and they are known for their rose-colored glass. They have a glassworks, and they're known for their rose-colored glass, but the guy who has the secret formula. To the rose-colored glass has died, and the town has gone into shock, and so to create this very sort of eerie feeling of a town's people in shock, they're all hypnotized before every take. Is this what Asteroid City was taking from? Remember, they all get hypnotized? Yeah. Could be. That could have been the inspiration. But you don't get to see them. You don't see them. You see them. Yeah, you see them acting under hypnosis, which mainly means they talk kind of. They talk kind of slow, and they have some very odd gestural language. It's quite a beautiful movie, really. Next Stop Greenwich Village. Some people don't like this. They're wrong. It's a really terrific comedy, and it's a Paul Mazursky movie who I'm always championing on this show. You should watch Paul Mazursky movies, and Next Stop Greenwich Village, really good. Why didn't you draft it? Huh? Well, because we combined comedy and horror. And I had Carrie out there, and I had to get Carrie. Had to do it. Yeah. Yeah, I wanted Carrie. You could have taken Next Stop Greenwich Village. I like 70% Solution. You ever seen that? I watched it for this. It was entertaining, you know, in the way that I found myself reading and learning about a lot of, like, gripping mystery thrillers from this year. And then I watched all of them with my dumb 2026 brain, and I was like, well, this is not that exciting. This is kind of taking a while. But it has fun. We just had the exact same conversation about it when we did the Duvall Hall of Fame. Also, that accent is not, with respect to Mr. Duvall, it's not what you want, especially for the voiceover. And do you find opposite Olivier and Nicole Williamson? Yeah, it's tough. Do you find Murder by Death amusing? I turned it off because I was, first of all, because Peter Sellers, it's not what you want. And then it was also really boring. And, you know, I like. Some racializing from Peter Sellers? Yeah. Can you do the voice? Please don't. Please don't. I saw that multiple times in the movie theater when I was 11 years old. That was the height of comedy. Did you think it was funny? When I was 11 years old, sure. Is there a Pink Panther this year? Yeah. Strikes again. Strikes again. That would be my Peter Sellers preference, and it was on my long list, but. I used to cry with laughter watching those when I was a little kid. Yeah, same. I thought they were so funny. Hey, Jenny, we went to the movie theater to see those. Yeah. My mom loved dumb comedy. That was her favorite kind of movie. When they would fight and destroy whatever room they were having a play in, I was just, like, this is the dream in life. More? I've got quite a few. Okay. You want to keep going? Yeah. Anybody else got more? Rip it. Alice, Sweet Alice, and The House with Laughing Windows are two horror movies that I would love to love and are very important in the giallo movement, but they're not movies that I do love. There are wonderful 4Ks available from Arrow for both of those movies, though. I watched Alice, Sweet Alice getting ready for this. Yeah, it didn't make my list. Not the best. I really love. I love Larry Cohen's God Told Me To, which is a. You haven't seen this? A paranoid thriller about a society that has become violent and turns against one another because of some sort of premonition that they are receiving. That's weird. Really cool movie. Burnt Offerings. You guys seen this horror movie? Yeah. About a couple that. Or a family that moves into a new home. I think I. Keep going. Who directed it? I think it's. Is it. Dan Curtis? Yeah. Right? Who made. That's right. Who then became TV guy and made Night Stalker and. Oh, yeah. What's the other show? Shadows. Help me out. What's the other. Dark Shadows. Dark Shadows. Thank you. Yes, Dark Shadows. And he directed a bunch of TV movies over that time. This is one of his few theatrical feature films, but very, very good. And is it. Oliver Reed. Who is the old. Betty Davis. Betty Davis. Thank you. What else is on that list? Lipstick is a movie that I watched for the first time when I did the Unboxing Boy for 1976, which helped me start to prepare for this episode, which stars Margot and Mariel Hemingway and Chris Sarandon, and is a genuinely upsetting film about a sexual assault and the aftermath of it, and rendered very realistically in a way that you just don't see. Lamont Johnson directed it. I would recommend it, but it's really hard to watch. Bonkers ending. The last five minutes were just like, what is going on? The movie goes crazy, yeah. And pretty entertaining. It just turns into an exploitation movie. Missouri Breaks, Arthur Penn, Jack Nicholson, Marlon Brando, you'd think would be better. Yeah. It's not better. It really has been one of the movies that has followed me around for my whole life, and I only watched it in the last couple of years, and I was like, this wasn't very good. Yeah, it's all right. I think Nicholson, he spoke about it, that he was very intimidated by Brando on the set. He was really. He was freaked out that he was working with Marlon Brando. And Brando also did his, like, I've decided I have a new character. I've, you know, like. It's like, yeah. I think he's. In the movie. Brando, yeah, it doesn't matter. I always find him entertaining, watchable, hilarious, and sort of more interesting than everything else going on. Even in Guys and Dolls? Guys and Dolls. That's the one I put on when Carrie needs some sleep. Okay. She hates Guys and Dolls. One of the very last Hitchcock films? Family Plot? Mm-hmm. Not a very good film. Don Siegel's The Shootist. Pretty good. Pretty good late period John Wayne movie. Last John Wayne movie. Is it his last film? It is his last film. I'll tell you, one of my favorite kung fu movies, Master of the Flying Guillotine. Have you guys seen that one? Probably. I have. I haven't. Pretty sick movie. I mean, what you've just described there in the title seems compelling. It's in the tradition of the one-armed swordsman films. If you have a flying guillotine, it would be good to be the master of it. Ideally. You don't want to be the novice of the flying guillotine. The yeoman of the flying guillotine. Not ideal. Flying guillotine for beginners. The target of the flying guillotine. You know, a movie I haven't seen, but was Oscar nominated and popped up on a bunch of lists is Voyage of the Damned. You seen this film? Yeah, it's of another era. Okay. I mean, of an earlier era than 1976. A little old-fashioned. Stuart Rosenberg? Yeah. There's some international films. I didn't know where to put Carlos Soros, Criacuervos. Um, Lino Baraka's Inchung, um, um, I don't know. I don't know what to do. Isn't your In the Realm of the Senses, 76? In the Realm of the Senses. Now, the one movie that I wanted to bring up to you guys, I don't know if any of you have seen it. I presume you have, is Robin and Marion. Yeah, I've seen it. Which I thought was pretty good. Pretty lovely. I liked it. Yeah. It's a kind of a late period reimagining of the Robin Hood myth with Sean Connery and Audrey Hepburn. This is the movie I'm in. I was saying, I wonder if you've seen it because you might like it. I was just reading the ending of The Voyage of the Damned, which I was really upsetting. And apparently they handle it all in footnotes. What the fuck? I haven't seen it. I'm not going to, but excuse me. Can I tell you, I bought it on Blu-ray. I didn't watch it. Robin and Marion is Richard Lester in the aftermath of the Three Musketeers movies. He's in this moment where he's making these kind of historical dramedies, these swashbuckling movies. But I thought Connery and Hepburn were phenomenal together. Really lovely. And it's a nice movie kind of about, it's about like. Robert Shaw too, right? Robert Shaw, Richard Harris. A great Richard Harris performance as King John. And somebody else. There's one other. Oh, Ian Holm. So funny. Who's King John's brother? Or maybe it was King Richard and Prince John. Yeah, and Richard Harris as Richard the Lionheart. Yes, that's right. I don't know. I thought it was really good. Thought about drafting it. It feels a little lost in time. A little baggy in the middle, but yeah, very sweet. I've never seen this, but obviously I would like it. This is in my interest set. I think you would enjoy it. Yeah. Well, that's all I got. Shall we recap? Let's recap. Well, Amanda, you selected first so you can read your group first. That's so exciting. I did. In drama, I have Mikey and Nikki. In comedy or horror, I have Cousin Cousin. In thriller or action, I have all the president's men. In blockbuster, A Star is Born, which Tracy Letts has never seen in any iteration. In Oscar, I have Marathon Man, and in wildcard, Daguerreoteeps. I can't believe you got Marathon Man in all the presidents. That's tough. In drama, I took Kings of the Road. In comedy or horror, I took The Town that Dreads Sundown. In thriller or action, I took The Outlaw Josie Wales. In blockbuster, I took The Omen. In Oscar, I took Taxi Driver. And in wildcard, I took Logan's Run. In drama, I selected Network. In comedy, or horror, I selected Buffalo Bill and the Indians or Sitting Bull's History Lesson. In thriller or action, I took John Carpenter's Assault on Precinct 13. In blockbuster, I selected The Bad News Bears. In Oscar, I chose the documentary Harlan County, USA. And in wildcard, I chose Welcome to L.A. In drama, I took Lifeguard. In comedy or horror, I took Carrie. In action or thriller, I took The Killing of a Chinese Bookie. In blockbuster, I took Rocky. In Oscar nominee, I took Seven Beauties. And in wildcard, I took The Man Who Fell to Earth. You know, when we read them all out loud like that, it's more even than I thought. Everybody's got good stuff and everybody's got the marginalia. Weird year. Your claim at the top fascinates me. It's just three of the all-timers. Which to me, you know, it matters. It says something about how you organize taste. It's true. Be the best. Be the best. That's what I ask. Shall we talk third chair? Is this the time? Speak now. Go ahead. Okay, so I got on the plane to come here and record. Is this the last one to air? It is. So I came to record three podcasts for The Big Picture. And I want you to know that when I got on the plane to come here, I had decided to concede. Concede third chair. To concede third chair. So that would suppose that it was yours to concede. To concede the fight. This is a race that we were both running. Just concede the fight. Because I had listened to the 900th episode. I had sent in a voicemail for the 900th episode, which was not played. How did that happen? I don't know. Well, that's Jack's fault. It was not played, but instead. Jack's just tossing Tracy Lentz voicemails out. Yeah, he's tossing out my voicemails and he's always putting me forth in the draft. How convenient that Jack also went on vacation the week that you arrived. Did you notice that? Yeah, I did. What do you think that means? So, in that episode, not only did you not play my voicemail, but you then took, what, 10 minutes to sing heroic poems to Chris Ryan. Later in the episode, Amanda suggested that we should take Teddy Roosevelt off of Mount Rushmore and replace him with Chris Ryan. That we should replace. Did I actually do that? You did, in fact. You decided we were going to replace TR with CR. I think in general, my relationship to the people represented on Mount Rushmore is disinterest, right? But if I was on it, would that make it more interesting? Sure. But I think that. I think it would lower the interest in it as a historical monument. The conversation was about what Teddy Roosevelt did to earn being on Mount Rushmore. And neither of us were particularly clear on that. That's absolutely untrue. What if he. Go ahead. I said national parks a lot. Spanish-American War, right? Yeah. Yeah, also led to. He led the country through a time of extraordinary tumult in the aftermath of the Civil War. not to mention the trust buster. I mean, he was essential. Crusaded on behalf of the individual in this country. One of the great individualists. But Amanda would like to replace him with Chris Ryan. So, it's very clear to me that the fix is in. I'm Al Gore. He's W. And you're the Supreme Court. So, it's like. Now watch me laugh. That's tough. It sounds like Jackie Sanders is the hanging Chad in this equation. So, yeah. So, I was like, you can't fight City Hall. So, I was ready to concede. Yeah. But I've decided to redouble my efforts. Oh, how exciting. And I'm going to tell you why. My constituents. Who are they? They are the people of America, my friend. They're the people in the streets. I'll dub them right now. Are you ready? You know what they're called? The Letts Lads. You think they're men? Well, frequently, yes. Yeah. And they want to see more of what I'm called. Mm-hmm. And so, my hat is still firmly in the ring. You guys can try and block me out if you want, but I am playing for key. Now, I can't believe I'm even entertaining this because of the work I do for this pod and for the other pods on the Ringer Podcast Network where I have a prospective Saturday night spent podcasting about the fucking Sixers. Mm-hmm. But, here's what I'll do with you. That doesn't have anything. Because I'm interested in content. This is a no-Sixers zone. So, that's not going to be taken into consideration. Should we have a November 6th election for third chair and Tracy and I can make our cases? Now, this is a man with great confidence in the aftermath of CR month who is willing to put it to a public vote, it sounds like. I didn't say that. I'm just saying we can use an electoral college system if you want. Oh, great. Like, we can have different states have different weights, you know? Mm-hmm. But, if this is what you want, if you really want to drop gloves and go fisticuffs, Well, here's the thing. Hmm? I'm not sure that there are only two contenders. I mean, there are other people who could potentially. Oh, come on. Who the hell are you even talking about? You know, there are a great many beloved guests in the history of this show. You know, the Physical Media High Council did not start with either of you gentlemen. It started with Timothy Simons. Oh, dear. Well, he is not available. And second of all. He's quite literally not available. He's a busy man. This is part of my main point about Chris. Chris is already. First chair on the watch. Mm-hmm. He is chair 1A on the rewatchables. Mm-hmm. He is a basketball expert. He's not watching 56 Robert Duvall movies because he's got to watch a goddamn basketball. Oh, so now it's about. It's about. Okay. This must be said because you haven't heard this yet. Yeah. But I'll say what Tracy Letts did for the Robert Duvall episode is among the most titanic acts. of scholarship that have been applied to this program. What did you do? Did you watch, like, all his TV appearances or something? I watched a bunch of those and I watched 56 Robert Duvall movies. Okay. If I only had to do five pods a year, I'm sure I could do the same thing. This is my point! Okay. You're making my point for me! What would be a better life? Would it be to be. Tracy Letts? Yeah. It would be pretty cool. Have two authors, Tony Awards, married to Carrie Coon. If I was married to Carrie Coon and I could do this, I would do this. I would do this. I would do this. If I got to swan in here five times a year, that would be pretty awesome. Fucking show up in a Catherine Bigelow movie and go, yeah, that would be awesome. Instead, I'm out here watching fucking Joel Embiid walk back to the locker room, come back onto the court. 7.30, 8.15, when are we going to start? Amanda, what are your thoughts? Yeah. You know, I don't think we have to decide today. Okay. You know, I think that it can. But you think it should be decided at some point. Well, I don't know. You know, there is. There's a will-they-won't-they element to this that keeps the podcast going over time. How many seasons can we play? Yeah. And I think what we all learned from that is don't make the decision. I'm interested in who you think H. Ross Perot is in this equation. Who is the outsider insurgent candidate? Well, I always love talking to Alex Ross Perry. He brings a completely different energy than either of you ever could. And he's, you know, he's a bit of a villain in a way that I always find appealing. And he's been on the show many times over the years. And he also, to his credit, if I ask him for an act scholarship, he will bring it when it comes. He also makes a lot of memes, so he's been very crucial. Memes? Memes, yes. Mostly of Sean. Yes. So he's been very crucial. Funny, you're not on text with him, right? Publicly share these memes? No. He privately generates several memes featuring photos of me from the Void recordings. And then takes literal quotes that I share on episodes. And now also that one South by Southwest photo of you with your card, you know, like you're preparing for a presidential address. Which I did not approve the posting of that photograph. No, I'm sure. I can't believe you sat for it. But that's okay. Are there any good Kyra Gerber hands memes that I should check out? Are you aware of this, Lore? Yes, I saw the picture. Okay, let me ask your opinion. But you're not on Instagram. How'd you see it? As a person who's frequently. I don't know. I heard you guys talking about it, so I looked for it. As a person who's frequently surrounded by attractive people. Yeah. When you're in a photo op, do you just hand on the back, go for it? Yeah, there's a photograph somewhere of a bunch of us at that. Screening of House of Dynamite. And it looks like, is her name Willa Fitzgerald? Yeah. The strange darling? Yes. It looks like we are a couple with everybody else around. You know, just like we can't. Yeah. You put your arm around her. I put my arm around her. It was just like, oh, this feels unfriendly. I'll put my arm, you know. Sure. And now the photo makes it look. How did she respond? You know, she was not threatened. Warmly, I don't think. Interesting. Do you think I should have done that with Kaya? I don't know. I met Kaya Gerber. We're both in Saturday night. And so I met her at. There was a screening of that. And as we met, you've never seen two people who had less to say to each other. I find that so interesting. She's a woman of letters herself. And apparently you guys hit. Not that we didn't. It was all totally pleasant. I'm just saying she didn't have anything to say to me. Interesting. I wouldn't say she had things to say to me. But she did say things to me. Yeah. That's right. Like it's Wednesday. Yeah. Hi, Sean. You're a person. I'm Kaya. You're alive. Yeah. Okay. I mean, listen, I appreciate all of your efforts. I've got, you know, 17 more years, 18 more years of experience with Chris. Sure. But you've entered our lives like a like a like a shot. Let's face it. I forced you all to be my friends. I forced my way in here and forced you to be my absolutely ridiculous. I feel maybe there is an inter like a turmoil. Well, I don't like, you know, I admire. I admire Tracy very much. Like I got to let the dogs off the leash. You know, like it's not going to be pretty. So I'm begging you. Yeah. Don't don't make me go to the mattresses here. Regardless of how this works out. I love all of you. I love being on this. It's been a real pleasure. I've had a great week. This is awesome. Thank you for coming. Thank you for participating. I don't think I've ever. I don't think I've laughed harder than I did during physical media in a long time. Oh, my God. I've been laughing all week. Just thinking about it. Just really was a very good time. Thank you to Lucas Cavanaugh and Sarah Reddy for their production support on this episode. Thanks to Jack Sanders. Thanks for nothing, Jack. Yeah. Jack was not here today, but he did do the selection and excitedly shared the results, which fucked me and Tracy over pretty badly in this draft. At this time, what is happening? When is this? I think this episode. This episode is airing while we're at the Cannes Film Festival. God willing. Yes. This is also, just like I said, the opportunity for us to do a coup. No. What would you guys even talk about? Tracy and Chris at the movies? Come on. Okay. Great. Good luck. I wish you guys luck. What feed will you be posting this show on? I'll figure it out. Chris loves to remind us. He is an editor at TheRinger.com. That's right. So I've heard. Thanks to everyone for participating in this draft. I hope you've heard of some of these movies, and we will be back, I think, our next episode. We will be covering the Cannes Film Festival. We'll see you then. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Trimphia is a prescription medicine used to treat adults with moderately to severely active Crohn's disease and adults with moderately to severely active ulcerative colitis. Serious allergic reactions, increased risk of infections, or lower ability to fight them in liver problems may occur. Talk to your doctor and explore what's possible, or call 1-800-5-6-7. Call 1-800-526-7736 to learn more about Trimphia and visit TrimphiaRadio.com. This episode is brought to you by Whole Foods Market. Fall is here, and Whole Foods Market has everything you need for cozy meals, seasonal treats, and easy entertaining. 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