Texas Toast, Fantasy Murderers, Drake Maybe Back, Guess the Lines and MLB Playoffs With Cousin Sal

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Call 1-800-GAMBLE or call 888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org slash chat in Connecticut. ♪♪♪ The Bill Simmons Podcast, we are live on Netflix with Cousin Sal and his kidney stones. I want to mention we have a new rewatch of us coming tomorrow night, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, which I guess could have doubled for Texas Cowboys today, but the 1974 one, not any of the remakes. So, yeah, me and CR are breaking that one down. We made producer Craig watch it. It was super fun. All right. We just came off of. Probably the worst Sunday night football game in a while, and yet it was wildly entertaining, and there were 900 yards and zero turnovers and lots of points, but it was kind of fun to watch Collinsworth and listen to him do a bad game, right? Yeah, it's true. They kind of protected him a little bit with this Lions defense. I feel like they lucked into this schedule-wise. Like, the NFL, if they have to put a shitty NFC South team in prime time, tomorrow is the exception, but if they have to do that, the Lions defense is a fun option, right? So, they're always going to be. They should always be the must-play for the NFC South teams because the D is going to make you look magnificent. Their defense is a Z-bound of the NFL. It makes everyone look great. It really does. Well, they almost blew the game. There was a lot of weird strategy stuff going on. At various points, I was wondering which coach was good on both teams and what the hell was going on, but really weird. Near the end, Campbell, he's down 13. It's 4th and 10th. And inside the 15. Collinsworth's not talking about it. Goff just takes a delay game. Campbell doesn't call timeout for some reason. 4th and 15. Then they get a false start. Now it's 4th and 20. And then they just go for it on 4th and 20 from the 25, which I would say has like a 3% chance. You're basically hoping for a P.I. They don't get it. They get the ball back. Touchdown. They get the ball back again, but now they need 6 instead of 3. They need 7, basically, instead of just being down 3 if they had kicked the field goal, and they lose. And Collinsworth, like, didn't want to hear the argument for it. It was weird. I'm just so medicated, right? I can't believe they stuck me with the Panthers, Bill. I just, that's stuck in my craw there. No, there was 7 minutes, 10 seconds left. They were down 13. And like I said, they're getting pushed back. So in Campbell's mind, he's got to have, at some point, it's not worth it, right? If they take false starts all the way to midfield, he's not going to throw a Hail Mary, right? So to me and you, we were on this text chain. I'm like, 4th and 20, just kick it. Yeah, go down 10 with 7 minutes left. It's fine. And Anthony DeBondo, who is my co-host for Ringo Wiseguy, is like, they're not getting the ball back twice again. Right now, between that and what the Raiders did with the point, I wouldn't hire DeBondo to coach my dog to his bowl to eat at this point. But guess what? They got the ball back twice. I don't know. I don't know that it would have made a difference, but there's nothing wrong with being down 10 with 7 minutes left. No, it was just a weird game in general. They ran out of Ted McMillan kind of stuff to do by the third quarter. He just kept catching passes. It seemed like he was the only guy on the team. Anytime they needed to play, he made it. Bryce was really good. Bryce, it's not like the NBA where it would be, we'd be going, oh my God, who's going to sign him? Seven teams need a quarterback because they can just franchise tag him, which I just think is less fun. It would be fun if he was just a unrestricted free agent at the end of the year. But he's been really good now since the last couple games of last year. He didn't have Coker tonight. He didn't have Leggett, who they spent a high draft pick on. It was basically just McMillan and Hubbard and a bunch of guys you've never heard of. Yeah, I'm trying to look because I knew you would do this. But I stand by my the Lions defense makes everyone look good thing. Well, you might be right. I mean, I don't know. He wasn't that great against the Browns. His yards were up there. I guess he was good against Atlanta. It was better than the last year's version of Bryce Young for sure. What are the levels, right? Your guy today was great against Houston. He was just awesome. He has a name, and it's Dak Prescott. Dak Prescott. Um, Stafford in those last two drives when the, you know, Stafford was bad for two and a half hours. And then those last two drives showed up. My guys showed up like that. There's like that high level. Then there's that middle level of like, they can do it every once in a while, depending on the situation, the defense. And I think Bryce is at least there. That's fine. And then there's that lower level of like that Jameis Jacoby Brissett five interception masterpiece. We watch a giant stadium. Then there's a level below that. Oh, that I think. I think it's just came more to Malik Willis and the Rutgers guy that came in today. I like Mac whatever that Rutgers guy was, uh, but yeah. So Bryce Young is at least in that second level now, which I don't think we would have said halfway through last year. All right. I'll give you that. I mean, there's a lot, you have, you put a lot of guys in that second level then. So you're going to put Bo Nix and Trevor Lawrence and, um, I think Trevor Lawrence is top level for me now. He's top. All right. Yeah. I think he's been really good. The question is where Herbert is now. Cause he's definitely not in the top level. Oh, it's probably in the middle level. And if you watch that game today, all his stats came in, uh, garbage time stuff. Um, big picture with lions, Panthers. Um, I don't know where we're going to get any competition for the seven NFC playoff teams. If you go with the three NFC West. Yeah. Probably your team in the NFC East would be the safe bet. The bears just cause of Ben Johnson. It just seems like. It seems like he's going to Scotch tape and duct tape them to 10 games. So there's five. The NFC South has to send a playoff. They, they still have that role. They do sit there six. So then that seven spot comes down to Billy Detroit minute four. No Minnesota who, who scored one touchdown in the first half. Um, Oh, is that, no, that's not the stat. What's that? The Denver scored one touchdown in the first half. Minnesota. It's like six other terrible offensive stats. So I guess it would be Minnesota, but no, I don't, I don't feel good about Minnesota. We don't have to pull the plug on Minnesota yet. I just, I, from my takeaway from this week and what win or lose, I think we're dead and you know, injuries could really screw this up. I think there's three NFC West teams in the playoffs. Again, we're going to see that. Right. And then when you say injuries, screw that up. Like San Francisco just loses guys every game. Starting their fullback today. I got his name. It seemed like his knee blown. Out or hyperextended, whatever. And it was like their 15th injury. It just doesn't matter. They just keep plowing head. I don't, you know, Mike Evans was out there with what broken ribs or broken bone in his back, whatever he had today. Yeah, it's true. It doesn't matter. It didn't really matter last year, I guess either. They had a shot to get the one seed in week 18, but, um, yeah, I'm saying like if the, if their quarterback doesn't go out, I would think NFC West is a lock for, for three teams. And I think the North will get two. And then I still think there's one in the East. I still think, and I'm not sure that it's my team. I know we'll talk about it. But if the North gets two, that's either Minnesota or Detroit, because I think Green Bay is terrible, which we'll go into later. The interesting thing about the NFC is it feels like the three NFC West teams are the best teams. Yeah. And then maybe your team is fourth just because of how you can move the ball. Not only do you have the best offense in the league through four games, you have statistically one of the best offenses of this century through the first four games. I don't know if it's going to last, but that's, and this is without getting really anything from Pickens. It's points per drive. But if you watch the defense, it's, you know, the other side of the balls is magnificently bad. I mean, Joey Porter Jr. kind of helps out because they, I don't even think they tested him today in terms of targets. So that's good. How's his back? Is he using like Norma Tech on his back? What was he doing? Listen, they've sat him. They purposely sat him. Core power yoga to stretch out his back yesterday. I got some stuff for him if he needs. But, yeah, I don't know. We'll get into my team, but I just, this Vikings team, I guess, I guess we'll just going to have to get used to them going like 14 and three and they're going to have like a dozen touchdowns on the year and that's going to be them. I have to go all the way down to my Vikings, Miami notes. The Dolphins covered. Yeah. Thanks to Hawkinson going down on the one yard line, which feels like it needs a name. Who is the first person to do that? Brian Westbrook. I forget who invented that when we were all, it absolutely blew everyone's everyone's brain i think it was brian westbrook said it was like on a monday night it had fantasy implications it had gambling implications all kinds of shit was in play and he went down and the announcers were talking about how smart it was and everybody else was like what just happened i feel like i've been shot by a cannon yeah the hockinson he should steal it though if he does it like two or three more times we could call it the hockinson and then it becomes like a hundred years from now everyone no one's gonna know what the hell it is but right it's gonna sound like parkinson but or something like that well they have a parkinson to the ramps but anyway yeah um that would have been i guess he made the right move there i mean first of all if you would have sat with somebody for those 4 p.m games and bet on every game they would have been for the first time ever if like you had like a cousin in from like barcelona or something and they're like oh you never bet let's just bet these four 4 p.m games eastern they would be like they would look at you after it's like what the you do this every week are you kidding me right this is ridiculous you teased the broncos and they gave up a george kittle half field touchdown with two minutes left for no reason and at least that guy scored there are some guys trying not to score because they don't want to go up 12 with two minutes left like yeah i just and your wife stays with you like through all this yeah it was a it was a tumultuous 4 p.m ending um the funniest thing was it's not i don't think kyler murray has a lot of touchdowns in him this year okay so hockinson sliding down and costing him one of the few touchdowns he's going to get is a lot of touchdowns in him this year he's going to have he had to be bummed out i also wrote down 20 million a year from malik willis now feels kind of hilarious i've i've unfortunately watched some dolphins is that what he's getting i guess yeah i thought he got 70 million for three years they paid like two guys and he was one of them yeah he's not that guy i know he doesn't have a lot of weapons alex from minneapolis sent us some email he said he's a lifelong vikings fan couldn't be more thrilled about his 4-0 start um heard a stat that since the most recent playoff expansion no team that started out 4-0 has missed the playoffs wow but he asked considering how putrid their offense is could the vikings be you and sal's first ever 4-0 cross off team wow did you think about crossing them off oh that's really good i'm gonna say no i value the four wins but it did make me pause for a second because their offense is just abysmal and i don't understand this blitzing thing how the how it's going to work when they actually play yeah a really good team it's a gimmick they're getting away with it but i i don't i don't do not take the vikings seriously like a brock party i'm looking at their schedule the problem is everyone who i thought was good is now maybe not so good so there's a stretch there for them where yeah a couple weeks they're at the lions versus the bills at the packers versus the 49ers let's see let's see if they what they do i mean those are good quarterbacks so let's see how they get out of that but yeah man i don't know i mean the dolphins you can't learn anything from them do they have a game where they've scored more than 13 points they do not okay so minnesota beats green bay week 139 to 22 in the game that green bay's up 22 to 10 and the entire game completely craters on them there's that weird drive that seemed like the game was fixed for minnesota and yeah all kinds of dumb shit they beat chicago in week two in the game with the 20 mile an hour wins where chicago scores three points and the weather it was just a perfect game for minnesota last week they beat tampa barely in baker mayfield's last start and now we know tampa's terrible and then they beat miami by five today so they're just going to be the team and we know who it is every year by usually november and now we know what that now they're probably going to go 13 and four and we will not wait to uh we will not be able to wait to bet against them in round one yeah is how that is where we're heading with the minnesota vikings i like their fan base god bless them they've had a horrible like you're not you're not doing anything if he's your quarterback it's hard for me to believe they traded mccarthy that that means he must be awful and i don't really know what they do i don't know what they do either i don't know if they're looking for like a sam darnold type resurgence out of kyla murray you know jefferson's out too so i don't know if you want to give him a little little bit of a break there i really weren't awful but again it's against the dolphins i mean i guess we should be happy they finally had positive yards in a matchup that they won the four no but it is about the worst four and oh team i've seen i think kudos to them well one of the weird things about this season so far is we have how many four and oh teams like more than usual right minnesota san francisco um chiefs and kansas city so we still have three four and ohs and then conversely which is the part that gets super weird we still have five oh and four teams and all the stats and like week three oh and two teams watch out when they're underdogs and then week week four oh and three teams look out none of them worked the texans are on four they could have won three maybe even four of those games they had the lead in three of the four they had the lead today against your team stroud was i thought really good they did everything you could have asked offensively from a team that can't run the ball at all and then once again i was texting you guys they are the equivalent of muñoz on the seattle mariners it's a great eight innings and then fucking muñoz comes in and walks the first guy and starts giving up rockets and you're like this guy throws 101 miles an hour how is he not getting a save and the texans have all these all pros all these dudes all over the place and this is two weeks in a row where and then you go back to week one same thing where all they had to do was just close out a drive and they win the game they weren't able to do it their own four and this was supposed to be the strength of their team right three out of the four games that uh their defense played horribly and they're they still had a shot with the last drive and and couldn't couldn't put the hammer and their offense got the go-ahead score to set up the defense to finish the game which then did not yeah i love that you're invoking this muñoz i really hope this goes like through basketball like you get he's just it's con canipple he's like muñoz what let it go i'm just gonna compare muñoz to everything keeper league you lost six months ago trump's new legislative act it's like muñoz it's like these midterms yeah not voting for muñoz tell you that much well so that lassiter who had who dropped the game-winning pick in the first game so that just single-handedly costed them a win then this game he got torched the stats were like unbelievable i think i think when they targeted him he gave up 200 yards your guy cd lamb had 17 catches and had one of the best receiver games of this decade and dominated them and dominated them in the final drive when all doc was doing was throwing a cd lamb and it didn't matter and he was just getting open and making plays and i don't understand it i don't know what happened to pickens this year if you haven't on a fantasy team you're not doing backflips it's it's very cd lamb centric but it's working i love it i mean this is maybe how it should have been last year but not just one of the greatest 17 for 189 is he the greatest wide receiver you've ever seen i'll hang up and listen to your response off the air no but he'd throw he's thrown his hat in the ring this year for receiver of the year right it's good it's you know i'll take it i'm not gonna overreact at all i promise but let's just split the heartbreaking results right we lost to the ravens we couldn't lose this one to the texans too and you know you like i said joey porter is a positive the defense still lets up we have guys on the field that shouldn't be but the fact that we had lost like four years worth of road games when we were down double digits in the second half and we we kicked that streak to the curb that's nice that's fine i'll take that what do you think your odds are to make the playoffs i saw it already it's the same as the eagles it's about even right minus 110 or something it jumped up because that detroit lost today you're now minus 132 to me oh really there's juice against you plus 112 to miss it on fando um the bet the bet of the year was the chargers a week ago yeah when we did that they were like minus 650 to miss it and just put those with two other terrible teams and you have the makings of a parlay i might have actually done this when i was in boston but now they're like we had minus 1200 they're five own four teams you said and two of them are the titans two of them we crossed off already the titans and the dolphins the other three are the texans that the bucks which we won't cross off because they're in the south divisions right and then the charges and charges i think i think we're closest to charges than any other team right now i i would might you could convince me to do it right now this week i have a different cross off team for this week really that's not owing for all right i think it's the arizona cardinals oh yeah yeah if the goal of the cross off and so far we've crossed off miami and tennessee and eduardo is doing a really cool instagram i like it post of it where it's like a notebook and the teams are right and so we so we need a third team what are the odds arizona is going to make the playoffs in that division you would need i think two of the quarterbacks to get hurt they have this crazy schedule coming up um they won that first game against the chargers and we went oh my god arizona what are what did we miss and then we talked that day i think we talked on the pod this could be one of the ones we look back at like around week 12 and go oh that was the crazy result yep and it was a crazy result because we thought the charges were good and the charges suck and the cardinals threw us off their scent for a week and they've lost every game ever since i'm fine with that i mean they had 270 total yards oh i started this we started talking about how the nfc west it's almost a foregone conclusion they're gonna have three playoff teams so they're not going to have four, you know to me it's like they went to Trey McBride like 15 times in the red zone and couldn't get it done against the Giants so and the ref is telling them to F off I think they're telling the ref's telling them to F off I think we could tell them to F off we could cross them off if you want I mean we're on Netflix we can say he said fuck you twice to Trey McBride the end zone judge and he actually did right incredible video like does that guy get fired what happens to him he's got talking to Bill you can't throw an F Mike this guy thought he was in a Tarantino movie what are you doing take it easy Scarface come on just let us know when the quarter's over he yeah I would have the Cardinals so you agree with that yeah let's do it let's do it okay they played the Giants today and it is weird we're taking them even though they beat the Chargers a team we won't cross off but we're we are I'm game that's fine well here's why I don't want to cross off the Chargers and we should talk that by the way the Cardinals gave up a walk-off pick six that if you tease the Cardinals so sorry it murdered all the teases that seemed like one of the safest ones a hilarious game in general though Jameis is just throwing it he's just it's almost like he's peaked past being where Jameis was when he was 30-30 Jameis yeah and now he's an erratic older version of the same Jameis and you just don't know what's going to happen play to play it's magnificent I love the attitude I love the I think that's the best version we could ask for for him like 18 for 29 three touchdowns two interceptions press conference during the week he's freaking out on the reporters saying that they're like you're the backup so as a backup you're doing it and he's like hey I'm not the backup anymore stop calling me the backup right he's like you're insulting me as soon as Jackson Dart gets that knee fixed up it's like Rosie O'Donnell saying stop calling me a guest host on Jimmy Kimmel Live I'm the host of this show I'm hosting the show right now that's it who knows if he'll ever stop fishing but that's it so that's Jameis in a nutshell I like watching it I asked Noah who's been working with the Ringer for a while who's a giant diehard Giants fan I was like I know you watch this entire game I had it on as ATVs are going away like what were your takeaways and he said I don't understand how we've picked in the top 10 for an entire decade and Malik Nabors is our only blue chip player right it's a pretty good take everyone was talking about how awesome and loaded their defense now Burns got hurt yeah but all these guys they had that are allegedly like just a nightmare to go against and oh my god they're front seven and their defense stinks and and then you look on the other side and it's basically just Nabors and it is a little weird that they've had all those they got Nabors over 100 yards which was nice right because you don't want your blue chipper you know four for 38 every week right so Jameis was good enough to get him to that point but yeah you're right now the haters are gonna be like first place shut they're gonna you know Trey McBride that's what the fuck you is I think well first place and they're over under I think Avfando is still seven or less seven and a half is it seven and a half yeah yeah I think that's what it was hold on I could I could look at it here for wins yeah their updated win total is seven and a half is the I mean they have they have a million that you could bet but yeah over plus 115 so I'm not willing to officially cross off the Cardinals yet until we talk about these Chargers no no I'm 95% there but let's talk about Seahawks Chargers really quick Herbert Seahawks just got pounded for two straight hours it was 27 to six at one point he had 26 pass yards in the first half they started garbage timing it up near the end and they did something really interesting they were down 21 I had I was on the treadmill watching four games at once so I was really concentrating because treadmill makes everything go slower and they had like an eight or nine minute drive down 21 where they're running the ball you would have thought they were up three and they put this long drive together against an increasingly disinterested Seahawks defense and Herbert actually did get his mojo going a tiny bit and then they came back and got it in a situation where they lose by seven and you know this game was seven in a lot of markets all week so they got the push I just think he looks like a complete mess they showed him on the sideline a couple times and he just had a different look he used to have kind of that kind of glazed you know I'm from Pacific Northwest I kind of have this vibe to me he just looked beaten down and in general when you looked at the sideline with them that was the only team I saw the whole day that seemed disconnected unhappy like where you watch these games you're like ah there's something wrong with that team it was the only one out of all of them and it's not like everything was going great for everybody but that team looks I would say broken would be the word I would use he looks like he's dating the Frankenstein version of Madison Beer like the he's in the bride part two skin burned off in a terrible accident that game sucked yeah it was awful first of all it seemed slow on the treadmill because there were 280 penalty yards there were 30 penalties in that game it's like 15 or 17 for one and 13 another yeah Seattle had 14 penalties and somehow didn't lead the team in penalties that they were playing yeah insane and then now like the linemen who this was supposed to be last year's excuse Joe Walton or Sean Slater are injured again yeah and they're always injured they're always injured together it's like two seniors in high school calling sick like oh did they go to the beach again like why do they always have to be injured together so I don't know in the middle of their line just collapses yeah Seattle was just pushing through the middle which was the thing I was worried about all year their receivers don't always make plays it feels like they started to give up on the rookie running back they started playing Mitchell more especially in the second half I said last week it was it felt 2000 blood sugary to me definitely feels that way I wonder with Harbaugh because we found out last week we theorized could he go to college but he can't because of the NCAA rule violations right I just feel like his MO is to get out of this I would I could see him resigning or saying like he's going through physical stuff or whatever he the way House has been calling him Grandpa Harbaugh wise guys he just looks like he's out he looks like the last two years of Biden like the clips of Biden just kind of wandering around like oh oh right he looks like he's out of it DJ Mikey Mack is just prowling up the sidelines he looks like he's you know wearing his John Holmes Boogie Nights outfit and doesn't seem like anybody talks to him they just seem like a mess there was stuff after the game like there's anonymous Chargers quotes coming out so I have my eye on that that's the only reason I want to I wonder if they're not a cross off because what if they fire Harbaugh and have like a resurgence with the new interim coach or something I mean the schedule is still brutal it's the next six weeks it's Broncos Chiefs Rams Texans Ravens your team you know the Niners are in there too did you see the press conference after the game with Harbaugh they asked him the vote of confidence for Mike McDaniel yeah I don't know if he heard the question or he's just so spacey at this maybe he's dreaming of college going back to college like you said but they had to ask him a second time he's like I don't know yeah I don't know we're just we're going to do some things we're going to figure yeah we'll do it okay so his job is in jeopardy no no no no no no I didn't say that I didn't say that it's an all around mess there yeah because the thing with him was always he didn't do one side of the ball or the other he was like a culture motivation you know alpha dog type guy that would come in and these guys he was just like a leader of men and maybe he's just not anymore sometimes that just goes away and if you don't have that other thing to fall back on but you know everyone's going to make excuses for Herbert over and over again he had two picks in a strip sack today he just looks terrible and there was a lot of garbage time stuff but I don't know I did my fan well let's talk your team I mean you're you know no we're going to do that after the break I'm just saying nobody has to nobody has to be bad forever right and we saw that with your guy so maybe I know but the difference with my team was that they could have and probably should have been in Seattle in week one and just torched the game in the fourth quarter started throwing the ball away they beat Pittsburgh in week two right then they sucked last week but you know they've at least shown something over the course of the season Chargers were only good against the Bills for the first two and a half quarters right and then turned the ball over a bunch my fantasy murderer all-stars through four weeks yeah Herbert I think has to be the QB right Drake Drake May was in there until today but he was probably on everybody's bench so he might still be murdering him yeah I think Saquon's the running back good Egbuka Jefferson and Harrison which two would you take well you're not counting injuries I mean A.J. Brown is the is the killer I don't I can't count the like I can't blame it's to me it's worse the guys that either are playing and not doing it or are sort of playing get hurt come back then they're hurt again so maybe Egbuka and Harrison is fair Jefferson went earliest out of those three right yeah and then and then Loveland has to be the tight end oh yeah yeah I didn't even check what did he do today nothing I've given up on him completely I didn't even look yeah but that has to be and then Texans defense which was going you know in auctions people were going three four five bucks for them and then probably I mean, really everybody on Philly. good I have all that all everyone you named I have them somewhere sprinkled on my six or seven rosters I have yeah we're gonna take a break and we're gonna talk about your team in a little more detail in my team because it's rare that both of our teams win in the same we should have done this at four o'clock why are we making it hard on ourselves I know why we get to save her more we had to wait to lose insane money on that 4 p.m. games but all right you're right it's better we're gonna take a break we'll be back this episode is brought to you by Michelob Ultra the official beer sponsor of the NBA and legitimately my favorite beer I was drinking them at Fenway Park actually recently it's tip-off and I can't wait to see in person the best thing for me is when the new guys come in the league and you get to go check them out for the first time like when Wemby came in a couple years ago we have a great rookie class this year I want to see Cam Boozer in person I want to see DeBonsa in person I want to see Darren Peterson in person I'm excited for all of these dudes and I think that's my favorite thing about when the season starts those first couple months when the newer guys start coming in and then getting to see the old guys to your old friends like Curry is a is a can't miss I got to go see him in person every year so I 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does that do for Eduardo does he think maybe that gives this team hope because we're just concentrate on the Padres he doesn't have that we've crossed off his football team wow it's a lot of faith in us this is on sideways Eduardo so maybe look they're not they're not making it let's cross them off I think symbolic I think it's more fun to cross them off who knows what the Cardinals the Niners keep getting guys hurt the NFC it might be nine wins we'll keep them in all right we'll cross up the Chargers so long Bill's Patriots Drake may be back you like what I like it yeah yeah Drake may be having his mojo again I like it all uh-oh what well oh no oh no oh don't do it well listen I had to buy the win today by putting the bills not only in a ringer 107 tees but in all the teases I did at least in the early games I did not think the Patriots would win today I thought today could potentially be rock bottom and then they would turn it around next week and what I did not count on I think it's gonna be a win but the thing that's funny is the guy who really got his mojo back was Vrabel hmm and I noticed it in the first quarter not to sound like I saw this coming but I did notice in the first quarter you know I love the sidelines when the guys are jumping off and you could just see like the energy it just felt like everybody was locked in it was the first time I felt this way all season every time they showed Vrabel he looked like last year Vrabel all the guys in the sidelines are just going up and down they're going nuts and they were really aggressive with the play calling it was almost like it was like they were trying to inject Drake May with testicular fortitude everything they were doing all their decisions the end of the game where I think in the first three games of the year when they have the lead at the end you gotta you know basically keep the bills from getting the ball back I just think they would have run the ball and and gotten tackled and then they would have punted and this time they went for it they went for it on second down they didn't get it stop the clock and then they did it again and got it with Hunter Henry and basically ended the game and it was it was just it was a fuck you game from start to finish and of course at the end they did the the Patriots the uh on Patriots.com where they have the locker room speech and it was Vrabel and it it it felt like last year so now I'm thinking this was all bad dream the offseason everything that went happen first three weeks malaise everyone in the city's mad they're wondering if Drake whatever clearly not a shoulder because he was firing it around and he was like oh my gosh I don't know what's going on today he looked great you know he's a little sloppy with the ball a couple times but his shoulders seemed fine he ran the ball eight for 54 he was zinging it and and a couple times he aired it out like 60 yards so it wasn't a shoulder was his head and I think this whole week was about building him back up they didn't have Gonzales in that bar more and I think they were just like nobody believes in us and it was like the Pats are back I don't know if it's gonna last but I think that's what happened today thank you you're right yeah I know how this works this has to be the video breakout that we put on the ringer tomorrow so I let you go for two minutes for whatever you whatever you need but if you want to praise Sedona Senzai Vrabel that's fine but you didn't mention Efton Chisholm who bailed you out I had more material I just that was my opening okay all right all right here's on the first of all I spent I was in New York and everyone that people don't like Drake May there either but I'm like I would spend the whole week defending him I'm like he's not thanks I spent the whole week defending him I just know he's not done unless it is like a shoulder injury and he's afraid to say it and which by now he should say it but yes we saw a lot of great throws today we saw a lot a lot of you know bailout throws this is why I was telling you the Patriots are not a cross off but but I feel like I'm kind of dialed in on him and I think you may have I think every snap is still an adventure with him I really do I don't disagree I think you're going a little more towards Baker Mayfield I don't want to call him Draker Mayfield but you're going a little more towards Mayfield it's a little bit of you know what's going to happen now kind of thing you know but you're back on track that was a huge game for the franchise some text with my dad today when Dobbs did well I texted him Dobbs always liked him we've been bitching about Dobbs for a month my dad said was so happy you got him but then Drake had that fumble and my dad just texted May is a rollercoaster ride to it and I said you might be too old to you might be too old to handle him anymore he's like a playoff hockey game every quarter and that's kind of where we are you never feel 100% safe because for some reason he's a little sloppy so it's like these playoff hockey games where you're just like and you're just doing that for three hours but he looked like he today he looked like he did last year definitely we know there's not a shoulder thing and that was kind of the Intel behind the scenes not just from insiders with the NFL but even like the team and the little birdies around the team it was like we just got to get his head straight like he got his ass kicked in the playoffs and he sucked in the Super Bowl and and obviously it affected him good so I think they build him back and good for me you get in the locker for longer yeah I'm back baby yeah in the locker room speech he gave out the four game balls and then the last one was to Drake and you could just tell by the way the team like the team was really trying to pull him back because I think he I I just think there's different types of athletes and he's one of those I internalize it when things aren't going well which is weird when it's the leader of the team right he's and you forget he's still young he isn't that a lot of things so anyway maybe you're a hundred percent back on this is unbelievable I said to you last week well anyway well no we're talking about Trevor Lawrence and I was like think about the fucking dips and turns and ups and downs with that dude how many times we wrote him off and I really like Trevor Lawrence now I think he's good so I think this is part of the process but the bigger issue is or the bigger thing that helped today was Josh I don't kind of sucked yeah the game is different take yep they got they score the touchdown they go up five they have the two-point I would have bet my life the bills were getting the two-point right mm-hmm I don't know what happened that play they don't get it and you know in twenty seven twenty two whatever it was they're up five and it's like oh this is this then the Pats go down Drake makes a bunch of big plays and then Chisholm makes the the play of the year for the Pats this is a guy who's been an August preseason hero but never thought you'd see him in a game like this and catch the best play of his life so Drake was 22 for 37 New England rushed the ball 36 times and this something Mike Lombardi always talks about completions plus rushing attempts it's 58 you get over 50 that means you you've controlled the ball or you have a situation like what was the Bears today they had like 78 completions and runs or something yeah um but it looked a little more like what what you would have wanted to look and yet Buffalo got the ball back I thought for sure Josh was going down and scoring I did too I don't know what it is with him I thought last week was his weird one like you know you get really spoiled with Josh Allen right but now he has one touchdown and three interceptions in the last two weeks I know he runs for touchdowns he's gonna break like Earl Campbell's record whatever Um, but, uh, yeah, I just, I, it, it, something seems wrong and they're not running away with the division and he's not running away with the MVP. Like you got, I was looking at it. I texted you and I was like, there were like 730 votes between Drake May and, uh, and, and Stafford that are not going to those two. And they might not go to Josh Allen who's still favored according to FanDuel to win MVP at plus two 30. And then Brock Purdy is plus four 50, 15 to one, two weeks ago. That was when to get him. But, um, and meanwhile, the best two, the guys I would bet Lawrence at 10 to one or Prescott at 14 to one, I think are the best kind of odds, right? Cause well, and we'll talk about the Jags later, but I thought they were really good today and I think your guy's been excellent. So this too, and Purdy was not that good today. Um, now they had some offensive line stuff and he was missing weapons, but it was the first time he looked a little bit mortal. And yet I still think he's. Top five quarterback in league. I wrote down this Josh Allen want to be the guy or not. Cause after that second game this year, we were all like, he's the best part of the league. There's nobody like this guy. And then last week kind of sucked this week. Let the Pats beat him at home. Let the Pats off the hook where this AFC is competitor. Who's like reeling and, you know, missing dudes, missing Gonzalez, missing Barmore. And it was like, this is missing AJ Brown. This is a fucking godsend to have these guys come in and you lose the game. I, as a Pats fan, I don't know how the Buffalo fans felt about this, but, um, we couldn't tackle James cook. Right. And he only had 12 rushes for 75 yards, but my dad and I were texting like, why don't they just give cook the ball all the time? He's going for seven of 15 yards of pop. Right. Um, but they just, they wouldn't do it. He just tries to do too much. I love this. I love how over your skis are. You are now. This is just, I'm not, I saved the season. Brable said that afterwards. This was the doer. Die game. If you think, if you want to be in the hunt, you had to win today. I didn't think they could. So you're betting $188,000 to win a hundred thousand at the Patriots. Make the playoffs. Good for you. No, I'm not like that. I'm not, I don't like the injuries and there's some things, um, I worry about Brable set out Brable. This is another thing with Brable that I think he's doing intentionally. He said, Josh, in the postgame press conference, Josh Allen is unbelievable, but I felt like Drake went toe to toe with him. This is what they've. Totally done all week with him where they're trying to build them up and be like, you're, you're one of the best guys in the league. Like, let's go. Like you're our guy. Let's let's, let's do it. And they're just, I think doing everything they can to, to basically give him his confidence back. We'll see if it works. I think that's, what's extra special about this game is not only because it was an AFC matchup that puts you right back in the thick of things, right? Not only is against your rival. Now the bills it's against the team that kind of started that cover six against Josh Allen. They kind of, maybe there was a team before them, but they, that when they beat them in the regular season last year was last year. Right. They, uh, that's what they employed. And that was like that they're going around to the rest of the league. And then everybody used it in the playoffs. It didn't work today. It really didn't work today because, uh, the guys open all over the place. Well, for the, if you're a bills fan, you got an awesome key on Coleman game. He made a couple of huge crutches and you still lost at home. So I'd be bummed about that. And then, um, your team, Texans Cowboys, we didn't talk about the Texans piece that. Um, Nico came back and made a huge difference for them and they still lost and they just can't run the ball. They're 19 for 64. I thought Montgomery had Montgomery in two fantasy leagues. I thought he was going to make a huge difference. He's right up there too. He just hasn't. Um, and their defense stayed 13 penalties on both sides of the ball and they gave up 28 first downs to your guys. So I don't know. And then your team, you got Tampa at green Bay at Philly, Arizona. And at Indy next five, that feels like six and three. It's fine. I mean, I honestly still think nine and eight can win this division. I really don't think we will talk about Philly and how they blew that game to the Rams, but you know, the Cowboys are going to just, um, they're going to fold against some of these teams. The coaching is going to be stupid. I think they depend on Aubrey and Dak too much. We have to get to a point where we don't depend on both those guys too much when Aubrey's lining up for 65 yard or after getting a kick, they're going to be locked and you know, it's easy for you. I mean, that was a huge six point swing. Yeah. It ended up not being huge because we won the game, but that easily could have been something that's exactly the kind of thing that makes us lose games, dumb, dumb, dumb over nine and a half wins for the Cowboys. Minus one 20. It's right there for the division plus one 30, same odds as the Eagles. And I don't understand how anybody could watch those two teams today and think they should have the same odds. I don't know what the Eagles do. Well, I really don't. And I look forward to the Philly special when Sheila and those guys really break it down in detail, but you know, their pass rush was better today. I guess that was a bonus. Yep. Um, but offensively, like Saquon has just had trouble staying on the field. He left the game early today. They didn't have Devonta Smith, obviously that guys, this Cooper guy was somehow important for them, but, um, it was so hard for them to move the ball. Um, and yet the way the Rams were playing, um, I wrote down Philly, got every break for two hours and Stafford stunk and yet the Rams stole the game. Basically with two drives, they just took the game. And, uh, and the, the anti-Syriani thing is the worst it's ever been. Yeah. He deserves it too. And I got, I got a little scared because I love the Rams. One of my favorite bets. And then, you know, you hear Lane Johnson's. I think we heard that early this morning, right? I love the bet even more hate the Eagles anyway, right? Did it end at three and a half? Yeah. Yeah. It ended up three and a half and then the game starts and you see the rain on the lens of the camera from the quarterback's perspective, you know, when they have the camera, like Fox will have the camera and you'll see like the rain drops on them. Like, oh crap, that's no good for Stafford. Cause then he has happy feet and it's like, and then what the Eagles had like a hundred yards of offense, maybe 110 at half and they're up 10. And I said, God, they're going to lose this game. This is a typical Eagle game. This is how they're going to do it. And somehow they didn't, didn't happen. They didn't convert a third down in the, in a game and a half or something. Right. This is spectacular while we're watching. So I wrote down that they were over six on third down in the first half. And then at the end of the game, they're over 12. They just put two over sixes. Yeah. They were 68 yards net passing on 31 drop backs. And, uh, I just don't think they're good in that. And it might take the lions two more weeks to adjust to it, but I don't see it. And then as there's rumors now, Lane Johnson might just be done. Who knows? Um, the Rams had a 98 yard drive. They got it going. Puka was nine for one 25 Williams. Who was awesome was 16 for 80 and 10 for 67 catching. So yeah, 28 touches. They had 26 first downs. The Eagles had 12. They almost stayed more than doubled their yardage. Another. The same thing with the Rams that is going to kill them unless they fix it is the special teams. The two more things today that were bad. So, you know, there was a moment there. It was like, wow, this team's one in three. And then Stafford has like a broken pinky for two games. Like there's a path for them not to make the playoffs, but they rated the ship and they. I mean, just keep playing the Eagles. I mean, I love the, the, I love the stats are at 68 net passing yards for Hertz on 31 dropbacks. Do you realize how bad that is? That that's 172 total yards. Offense. Lowest in a dozen years. Love it. Keep it. How mad were you? And were you as mad as I was in the, I think it was in the first half when the Rams had the pick in the end zone and the guy kind of mistimed his jump, whiffed it and then tipped it to the guy behind him who caught it for a touch. Cooper who grabbed that. Yeah. And it was like, oh, we're doing this with the Eagles. Okay. Yeah. This is the bullshit that's going to happen. Yeah. But did you say, were you over the Philly sports in the last two weeks? Because it's, it's dismal. Um, flyers aren't good. Eagles lost to Penn state, lost Phillies, obviously bow out in three. It's pretty bad. Well, LeBron said he came to Philly to help Joel and bead win a title. Okay. That's bad too. That was definitely his number one reason he went to Philly. He's bald too. Yeah. When he got, when he got together with Rich Paul summers, what do you want to do? And they made the pro con number one was I want to help Joel and bead a guy. I barely know when the NBA title. All right. Well, that's on. The upswing again. Chiefs Raiders was awesome. The rare moral victory for the Raiders didn't win, but they kind of did win because the stadium was the most electric it's probably ever been. They hung with the team. It was an either or game. No question. They proved that they could hang with them. They, and they really had a chance to win it. And strangely, it came down to that long bomb to tie Thornton who used to be on the pats. We got rid of them. And then he turned into this awesome speed threat. And right when the Raiders felt like they were going to take control of the game, blitz on my homes, he makes an, my homes has been, I think really fun to watch this year. Awesome. Long pass to Thornton who gets tackled and breaks his ankle and they stopped the game for 10 minutes. He comes out chief score fumble by the Raiders chief score again. And the game's over. And like five, we went from, Oh, they're going to do this too. Oh my God. That guy broke his ankle too. Wow. They just scored twice. in a minute. and that was it for the Raiders. But I thought it was a win for them for the most part. Yeah, I feel bad for the agony anyone who bet this game went through, right? So, like, the Chiefs score, they don't get the two, but then they get the turnover right away, and they score, the Raiders score, and then they do get the two, and it's just like, you know. Well, you should mention, it was Chiefs minus four and a half. Right, right, right. And it's just dancing back and forth between five and three, potentially, for an hour and a half. Right, four, six, five, three, it's still. And, you know, we had a problem with this, like with the Raiders not taking the points. They got a field goal, and they took it off the board, and then they didn't, you know, they ended up getting nothing out of that. And then the second time around, Kubiak goes for the field goal, takes the points. I definitely don't mind him doing that the second time. I just, I don't know. I don't think this is the 2020 Chiefs that are going to score 45 points. So, if you're up on them with seven or eight minutes left, take it. Take the points. So, it's young coach stuff. I remember this was happening with McDonald in Seattle early on with this stuff, too. I think they just have to slowly get a feel for what to do in those situations. The positives, the tight end combo is fantastic. Yeah. Like, they can go big with these, you know, and I know a lot of the teams are doing the 12 now, but they have the two guys to really do it. That Bowers is basically a receiver and then Mare, too. And they can be physical. It's weird, though. They don't run the ball like I thought. They're going to run the ball. Jenty's been kind of middling as a fantasy guy who was going, you know, the question was whether he's going to be healthy or not. But they haven't run the ball like that. And then on the KC side, they haven't had a sack in the last three games. And then they just lost their deep threat. So, they're heading into the bye week. But, you know, I certainly wouldn't say they're like a juggernaut like we would have in the past. And do you feel the same like when it was in the old days, you would always text me, Chiefs. Chiefs minus 120 when they're down four with fourth quarter. Do you feel like this is just a different era for them? I tried it a couple weeks ago. No one bit. I don't know if you know it. I put it on our text chain and they ended up winning, obviously. I didn't think they were going to lose that game today at any point. Did you? I felt they had it. Definitely not at the end. I did feel like with the Raiders with the lead in the fourth quarter, where we don't get to see Max Crosby in that situation a lot, I thought maybe he'd make a play. They could get a stop. I don't know. I didn't know what to expect. The crowd was way more. I know there are a lot of Chiefs fans, too, but the crowd was loud for the Raiders. I really thought they had a home field advantage. That surprised me, too. You're right about the tight ends. I think Cousins had 365. I do think he's going to need to stretch the field. The tight end thing is great. And most of those yards went to the tight end. But who are you stretching with? You know they're receivers. It's like Trey Tucker and Cody White. Cousins is going to need something to break up that mid-range stuff. But I can't say enough. I can't say enough about this Kenneth Walker. I say this Kenneth Walker like we haven't seen. I felt like the Super Bowl confetti dropped from the sky covering him in the MVP trophy. And the other 31 teams said, yeah, I don't want that guy. And he's just perfect for this offense. At 179 yards combined and two touchdowns. I think you have to start thinking, who's going to get the one seed if it's not a team like the Chiefs? Is it the Jaguars? Are those the two teams battling for the one at this point? I know we're a quarter of the way through the season. I know, but I thought the same thing. After four games, we usually have a favorite. And I don't know who the favorite is in the AFC. I would say that the team I probably feel the best about is Jacksonville. And I don't know if it's sustainable, but just for being able to do stuff on both sides of the ball, being able to run the ball, being able to throw the ball, multiple targets. If I'm down three late in the game, I might be able to move the ball. I can protect leads. I have a little bit of a home field advantage. That's probably the one. I don't feel great about it, but I think that's the one I would probably trust the most. All right. Maybe it's too early. I mean, it could be a stupid discussion. That's what I mean. It's too early. Yeah. Well, the Chiefs are going to have to figure out how to replace Thornton because I don't think he's coming back. They said he dislocated his ankle. That's at least a couple months, but I would assume that's probably the season. And then the Tyreek Hill stuff's already started, which wouldn't be until November, but they could fit back in. He's the kind of character guy they love. And would replace them as a speed threat. So, who knows? Yeah, I agree with you. Does anybody get to 12 wins in the AFC? I had to take my earbuds in. I was losing you there. You can hear me, right? Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I don't think it's 12. So, you think it's a lot of 10 and 7, 11 and 6? Yeah. Right in there. Did you forget to charge your earbuds? No. Dan Campbell situation? 88%. Maybe it's the medications taking effect and there's nothing wrong with the earbuds at all. I was steering us toward 49ers Broncos and we thought the Broncos might be, you know, if it wasn't going to be the Chargers, it would be the Broncos. I don't know if it's going to be the Broncos. And they got both of their cornerbacks got hurt during this game. I don't know how long Sertan's going to be out. Their offense, they've scored 13 points total in the first half. You love Bo Nix. What's going on? Because this doesn't feel sustainable. I don't know. I like the backdoor, Bo. I like that they, you know, they're behind in every game in 15 games or whatever and then they come back. But, you know what? I think that was a good old-fashioned defensive game. Nobody was going to. It was a good chess match and nobody was going to let anybody do anything and look good offensively. And there was good pressure on both sides. I had Denver plus two and a half. I know you had them on a teaser. So, it was disgusting how that ended up. But. I had the catch-up teaser to make up for the Buffalo thing and it just, man. Yeah. Wasn't a good day for me. Might have to ask you for a loan. Yeah. I'll get it to you. But there's a. Yeah, I don't. You know, you're going to tell me they're going to win six games? I would say no way. But they're not 11-12 win caliber team anymore, the Broncos. Doesn't feel like he has a feel for what his team is. Mm-hmm. Even if you look at. What is their over-under now? So, they're. Their regular season wins. Nine and a half still? Yeah, but the juice is on the under. So, yeah. So, people still feel like this team can win 10 games. Mm-hmm. I don't know if I see it. But I do wonder if it's all leading toward he takes the play calling back from the guy they brought in or the guy they promoted over the summer and. Right. And. I don't know. There's some sort of new. Like, they don't use Waddle like I thought. Sutton is. He's seriously missing. Mm-hmm. And none of their running backs seem to be impactful in any way. And then Nix is all over the map. Yeah. Waddle scored. That was his first one. So, you'd think they would wake up a little bit there. The running game is still a little iffy. It's very weird. There's no one to rely on. And. I really want RJ. I really want RJ Harvey to be good. And I don't have him on any fantasy teams. I have no stakes in it. But you watch him sometimes. You're like, feels like there's something here. Why? Why can't this. Why can't he become a guy? And then it just never happens. It would be nice. It would be nice. There's. This is a good exercise. I think I'll do this with the Ringer Wise guys. There's like five teams that are over-unders nine and a half, including your team, including my team, including Denver. There's another one. Like, who do you believe in out of these. out of these, you know, double-digit capable winners here? Well, then you have the Niners, who I guess Shanahan just give it to him now. This coach of the year. How many guys are they going to lose? Yeah. This is unbelievable. It's not like McCaffrey's jumping out of the TV in these games. You know, this is like a different. It feels like a different version of him. They allegedly had no pass rush for this game because they had so many injuries. A game that had crazy heat in Santa Clara. Right? So you think in the second half, they're going to lose their pass rush. They didn't. They were still able to get some pressure and the Bo Nix situation was not great. But this. To be honest, this game. This game came down. It was 3-3. Just felt like a slog forever. And it became a who's going to fuck up first game. And Denver's punt returner fumbled. Niners get it. All of a sudden, it's 10-3 and it felt like the game was over. Yeah. It was like whoever was going to make that first mistake was going to be the one that was going to lose. I think you're right about Shanahan. McCaffrey's not even in on third and goal a lot of times. Like, it's very strange the way they run their offense and yet it always seems to work. They're 4-0 and that was a double-digit win. Bengals-Jags was the other one we have to talk about. I mentioned before, I think the Jags are legit good. I watched this game closely. I had the Jags. That was my last second Sunday Ringer 107 pick. Had some other interests. But it felt like one of those games where the gods were against them. They had 10 first half penalties. Yeah. And it wasn't just first half penalties. They had shit like Hunter got a pick, got called back because of a roughing the passer after Burrow threw the ball. They had that crazy face mask on Chase that actually probably helped them win the game because he had to leave. They had a 40-yard touchdown run that got called back. They had a first and goal inside the five and got a holding penalty and all of a sudden were. So it was like, it just felt like one of those games. And then they had three TDs called back and then they're up 13-3 anyway and they were making Burrow do dumb stuff and they can move the ball and they can run or throw. It feels like if it's a third to nine they can go. If it's a third and one that can get it, I think they're really good. I thought they were good, too. And I had a whole thing written up about how scary the Jags defense is. And Hunter had one of the best defensive games you could have at that position. He was all over the TV, wasn't he? Nuts, yeah. Yeah. And then, well, he was on my iPad because that was a separate game. But I know what you're saying. Yeah, I know. But I wrote a whole thing up about how scary their defense is, and I'm like, wait a minute. He gave up 400 yards. Yeah, 428 yards for Burrow without Chase. Higgins and Chase Brown had 22 receptions. They did hold them the 23 yards rushing. And I bet the under, so I was good with all of it, 22-17. But I don't know if – I guess any time you go in Cincinnati and went on the road, it's a good one for an AFC South team. So I don't know if I'm ready to bet them and get the one seed. I'm not either. They're ahead of – I had them, what was it, eight and a half before the year? I was under on them. I didn't really feel like they added anybody. The biggest thing they added was that Hunter is now an impact guy on defense. Yeah. But they – since he run with 17 carries for 23 yards. But then you have the Burrow piece of this. So he threw two picks. He threw that third one that got called back by the rough in the passer, but he'd already thrown the pick. So he lucked out on that. And he lost Chase on the most egregious face mask of the season. It was like a nine out of – like 10 out of 10 will always be, 10 out of 10. When Warren Sapp did the face mask on Jerry Rice and blew out his ACL. That's the worst face mask of all time. This was like an eight and a half. It was really bad. He really yanked his head sideways as he was getting hit. And he got knocked out of the game. Bounced his head off the turf. Not good. Not something you want to say. But man, so they're up 22-10, Jacksonville. And I just don't think Burrow can come back. I wasn't worried. He just doesn't do it. It's not what he does. And I – I don't know. I know he put the stats up. But my question for you is, is he starting to drift toward being a good stats, not that good of a team guy? Yeah. Is that where we're going with him? Certainly. But again, I don't want to – Chase, yeah, they had a game plan, that whole thing around Chase being out, you know. So maybe they scored in the 20s if he's there. I mean, he's that impactful player. He's top three or four receivers. So – but I'm with you. I don't have any confidence. I mean, talk about like a confidence meter. I might put the – your team. Above the Bengals. I put the Bills above them. I have to put the Jaguars above them. And the Chiefs and maybe another AFC team. Maybe Denver at this point. Bears, Jets. The Bears ran – there were 30 plays in the first quarter and the Bears ran 26 of them. They had 34 first downs. They had the ball for 43 minutes. They had 54 rushes and 25 completions. And the Jets had the ball for 17 minutes. So that's it for the Jets being good, I think. I don't think we have to have that conversation anymore. The Bears, Ben Johnson's just – there's five, six great coaches in the league and he's just one of them. It doesn't seem to matter who his quarterback is. Packers, Bucks. Well, wait. We're only allowed to cross one team off a week? Is that how it goes? Yeah, one week. It's one week. Hold on. Are we going to get there that way? 17? Yeah, we'll get there. Yeah, that – I mean, I don't know how you're – you have 15 pass attempts when you're down double digits almost the whole game. Aaron Glenn says they're going to have to look at the tape to see what went wrong. But that was disgusting. Packers. Bucks. Tampa finally covered. Although, today the line went down to two and a half, so technically they didn't cover. They didn't. 13 in a row. They covered for the whole week. So, I don't know how we litigate that. There were a million Green Bay fans in Tampa, which was depressing. And Jalen Daniels, there were flashes. I really wanted it to happen for him. He kind of had it set up for him. He just wasn't quite good enough to pull it off. But my big takeaway was both of these teams suck. Yeah, I think I was texting you some F-bombs about the Packers. I'm like, are they really going to blow this game? They tried. They did everything they could. They were dying to blow it. And Jalen Daniels, that's what a rookie quarterback is going to do in his first start, right? Like 19 for 20. 19 for 20 is actually a pretty good percentage. But 148, a touchdown, two interceptions. He had over 50 yards rushing. But, yeah, that's not a good win for the Packers at all. I also think it's a lot of Daniels. It's Jalen Daniels. It's Jaden Daniels. I don't know if there's. Too many Daniels. We need like a Daniels break. Yeah. Jason Daniels, a Jackson Daniels. I don't know how many there are. Ravens, Tennessee, Titans somehow covered. Cam Ward now 318 as the starter. We don't need to talk about that game. Colts-Washington was another fuck you London game. Just terrible. The Mariota goes out almost immediately. We get the Rutgers guy comes in. Yeah. And yet, Quinn is up 6-0. It's fourth and one near midfield. Yeah. Colts haven't done anything. It's late in the second quarter. And he just says he hurries up this run play, gets stuffed, swings the game, and the Colts end up scoring and they never look back. And it was really brutal. It was a perfect London game, right? It was two teams that are probably not going to make the playoffs. One's going to start with a backup, and then that backup's backup's going to come in. And he's going to have a name that most Americans can't pronounce because he's a seventh-round pick from Rutgers or Spell. And then the team with all the backups, like you said, is going to have the lead momentarily until they're, the coach does something dumb, and the score will end up lopsided. Perfect, perfect London game. You forget when they show the fourth-string quarterback, who's usually the backup tight end, and they have to go through his backstory. Right, right. That's the thing. I'm not going to tiptoe around this anymore. And I know it's been a topic the last couple weeks. I think the owner on the sidelines taking notes is fucking nuts. I think it's nuts. I love you wouldn't respond. I was pretending you had a crush on her, which I completely, I think it's bonkers. I can't believe she does this. And I can't believe people in her life haven't talked her out of it. And now there's this push of like, oh, no, no, she's really into it. If a male owner was doing this, we would be ridiculing this guy until the cows came home. This would be like when Vivek was celebrating the summer league title in the NBA, and we thought that was so funny. We would think it was so fucking funny if some rich guy, male owner, was doing this. If a male owner was on the sideline with a notebook, like covering over and giving advice to the coach, we'd be like, this guy, even Jerry Jones wouldn't do that. Right. And, and her say his daughter's doing it. We're like, oh yeah, well, you know, she cares about the team. Why are we making excuses for how weird this is? I don't know why we are. I'm not going to make any excuses. I like, I prefer the, the, you know, you see the, you know, Jerry for years was on the sideline. Remember no matter how cold it was, it was, uh, yeah. And, oh, and Fox and CBS would love that shot of him after they lost a, a close game. And the snow and he's, he's, you know, and, and now it's like, yeah, let it put them in the luxury box. Let's just pretend we know how many scotches and sodas he's had. And, uh, that's how I like my owner not checking up on these coaches. That's, um, I don't think it was weird when Cuban sat on the bench for the Mavericks. I always thought that way. I used to make fun of that when I had my column, right? Like, why are you in the bench? You own the team, but he's not hovering over the coaches, right? Just the same. There was some hovering from her today. Yeah. A lot of hovering. It's just very strange. I don't understand. There's nobody in her life that could be like, look, this is, this is not, not the move. I think we are everybody else. I think we're in her life. Ridiculous. Listen to us, Carly. That's her name. Carly. Yeah. Yeah. Carly Ray Jepsen. Right. Something like that. Carly go in the suite. Like everybody else does before this. There's this. As you celebrate the game, take a deeper look at its roots. The people grow in the grass, bathe in the lots, weld in the goalposts, inspecting every football. 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The grounds is only available on PlayStation five, Xbox series X and S PC and Nintendo switch two versions. Week five, guess the lines. We have a bi-week. Yeah, we do. Two wear this only two teams. Yeah, we have the chiefs aren't a bi-week and then we have. The Carolina Panthers. We don't have to worry about them. So from a fantasy standpoint, not the biggest disaster on the planet. Um, this is creative for the chiefs, right? My homes, they didn't know how it was going to feel coming back. They gave him a cupcake schedule for the first month. Oh, and you're going to get a buy in week five. This is good for your chiefs and we have to put another team in there. So it's the Panthers. I mean, if you're saying there was a conspiracy to make this as cushy as possible for him, you'd give him the Monday night game. against a team that doesn't seem to care about the preseason and the Broncos. So that was a good start. Four games ending with a bye week heading into week five. Yeah, I would say this worked out pretty well for them. Yeah, not bad. Not bad. Thursday night. Your team's playing. Let's go. Were you aware of this all week? Did you know you have to do this again on Thursday night? I was. And it's interesting because, well, I'll get to it later in parent corner, but this is going to be a big night for me. This could be like what you found out about Jalen Brown. This is right when I'm getting my stuff done. Thursday. Yeah, yeah. Under the knife for the Thursday night game. What time Thursday? Well, it's going to be early, but I mean, I might be out of it. You know what I mean? On the meds? Yeah. So you don't want to pop on the pod with me at house on Thursday night. Maybe I will. Maybe I'll. Drug them some. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's your. That's your drunk owner time. Thursday night. Cowboys home for Jalen Daniels and the own four bucks. Congratulations. What a spot for you. Just. This is not one I want to play them, but okay. You wouldn't want to play them Thursday night, right? No, these Thursday night games are dumb. I went too low. I've beaten you the last two weeks. We're 2-1. I'm 2-1-1 for the season. I went too low. I don't know why I did this as a pick. I did Cowboys 5-1-1 over the Bucs. Oh, wow. Yeah, that's too low. I went too low, too. I don't know why. I said 8-1-1. It's 9-1-1. Yeah, I just. I almost feel like that was a typo. But that's what I sent to Eduardo who made us kill off his Chargers before. Right. So. All right. You're up 1-0. Cowboys-Bucs. Three-teamer. Ten-pointer. Looking good so far. You're going to put it with UCLA plus 20-1-1? The Bucs don't have a pass rush anymore. I don't know. I don't know. They don't have a pass rush anymore. Yeah. And they don't really score anymore. But you score. What's the minimum points you're going to score in this game? 27? Yeah, I would think so. So I guess there's like a backdoor cover for Daniels. But man, if you don't win this game. I'm glad you brought up UCLA because that's Saturday night. Our friends at FanDuel wanted us to preview Oregon-UCLA. UCLA going for 5-0. There were two hard road games for them. During this season. That before the year. It was like, well, they're over was like 6-1-2 for wins. 34-0. It was like, oh, well, they're going to lose in Oregon. They're going to lose in Michigan. Now those teams both look super vulnerable. What is the line right now? It's Oregon's favorite double digits, right? I saw 11-1-2, but the look ahead from like August was like 14-1-2. So you've already made some great strides. And you know, you're going to win your bet. What was it? Over 6-1-2 wins? 7-1-2? Yeah, I'm going to win that. But I think UCLA can win this game. You got a shot. Especially with the buy. Mm-hmm. I would, I like the over as well because they've scored crazy points in every game. Yep. So my, my dream scenario here would be UCLA, maybe even an adjusted, adjusted line of like four and a half, something like, UCLA plus four and a half with something with the over would be what I would do. Look at you. Yeah. Yeah, Oregon really only had one good defensive game. They got the backup quarterback that throws a nice ball in there. So I could see it being high scoring, but I would not take them laying 11 and a half for sure. You know what you're going to hear during the game? A lot of respect between the two coaches. Oh yeah, that's right. A lot of respect. Is their quarterback going to be back, you think, for this morning? No, I don't think so. I don't think so. That line's too high. Yeah. I think UCLA can win the game. What's the money line? You're a live, you're a live dog here. Plus 360. Mm. But that's a tough place to win. Don't think it, you should go. Let's go. No, you're going to be in Boston? I'm not going to that game, but I do like UCLA and the over is plus 733. UCLA money line and the over plus 733. Wow. Okay. You know what else those two, those two things have in common? What's that? California and Oregon. Fandle's available in both places. No, no. Yeah. That's what I heard. So, Fandle, nationwide this football season. Get in on the action if you haven't already. All right. Rest of the guest lines. Georgia, Alabama, Georgia, getting one Sunday. So I got Saturday. I got UCLA on Saturday night. Got a London game on Sunday and it's actually a good game. Jags, Eagles. This is a strong one. I have Jags minus three. I think I hit it exactly. Oh, this one went up. Is there an injury? You're going to get it anyway. I said two and a half. When I, when I looked before the pot, it was three and a half. It is now four and a half. Jaguars are favored. Oh man. That's one of those. You bet the Jags or you're rooting for the Jags, but you oversleep the first 20 minutes and you wake up and it's Eagles 10, nothing. Yeah. Trevor Lawrence having trouble getting going. That's a lot of points. My God. I think so. It's effectively a neutral field, but it's not because the Jags play there. Yeah. I think they're four point. They should be four point favorites over the Eagles on a neutral field from what I've seen this season. You don't agree? No, I think you're right. It just looks weird, right? Like I, I, we, we combined red 18 terrible offensive trends for the Eagles. You're right. They did have a little bit of a pass rush today, but otherwise it's, it's kind of same old Philly and more injuries. And now I don't know who's carrying the ball for them. But yeah, you're right. Little tank Bigsby action. It's Bigsby. Yeah. Shipley and Bigsby. I don't even know who's hurt anymore. Take care of business in front of your home fans. Jags, you owe them. Let's do it. Sunday marquee game is clear. Clearly Seattle home for the 49ers. Seahawks found something with Emmanuel Wilson today and hopefully you found him on your fantasy team. If you had Jadarian price, I have them in a, in our league and in my other league with my college buddies. I picked up Wilson who then had a way better game than prices ever had. But I thought Wilson was good today and they threw in the ball out of the backfield. He, he had a lot of touches and that was the one concern I had with them. Still, it feels like the Seahawks are like one receiver short, very JSA independent, even more so than last year. And I didn't think Darnold looked like he did last year. He wasn't sharp early on. Was not sharp. For sure. And yeah, you're right. Unless JSN is getting like 175 yards, you need something else. So that, that running back comes in handy there. I thought, I thought it would be Barner or just, I thought they'd have a second guy that would emerge or Shahid with a full offseason, but they, they just don't, they use Shahid and like some running stuff that I thought was fun. 27 yard run. Yeah. So I have Seattle at home favored by two and a half. That's what I had. It is three. So we split that. I like the Seahawks. It's where they make their move in the division. Aminori was all over the place today. Like they, with today, they felt a little Seahawksy finally, their defense. I know they gave up some stuff at the end, but it was garbage time. Watchables. Birdie's the MVP favorite if he pulls this off somehow. Definitely. Watchables. Pat's Raiders, I think is a watchable. It's in New England. Kirk Cousins coming to town. I gotta say, Cousins had some really good plays today. They, he had some in traffic where last year and the year before he was turtling when there was pressure and this time he was kind of moving around and buying himself like an extra second or two seconds. I thought he was pretty good. Touchdown to cover the backdoor was a miracle. He was, he was, yeah. Really just, I couldn't even see him in the fray and then he got out. Yeah. Yeah, he was good. I have the Patriots favored by two and a half. What's going on here? What is it? Why two and a half? You're going to get it because I said five and a half. It's three and a half. What? Come on. Come on. Pat's come, I don't like the spot coming off the big win and everybody's like, we've righted the ship and then, no, it's the Raiders. We'll be three and two after we beat the Raiders. And the Raiders are, I think, a good team. I don't think they're a great team, but I think they're good. They can rush the passer. You know, they can, they have, Bowers is uncoverable and he's going to be a nightmare for the Patriots. We don't have anybody to cover him. Wow. Isn't there something still with West coming East and isn't there something still with the Raiders? I think that's done. Like the Rams went to Philly today and beat them. Well, the Rams are good. All right. In our picks poll, I put in, I doubled on the Rams today and our buddy Gus was like, oof, West Coast going to East Coast in the early game. Yeah. That's risky. And I don't know if that's mattered in the same way the last couple of years. Maybe it's an old thing. The Plains are better or it just matters when you go to Australia. Yeah. Well, this is it. The vibes are good with the Pats. The vibes are good with the Raiders. Long story in history, 50-year anniversary, actually yesterday, of when we beat them, 48 to 17, 1976. Steve Grogan ran amok. I put the video on Twitter. It was the first really good Patriots team of my life. And the Raiders were the big bad Raider. Like, you know, no chance ever beating them. We killed them. And it was the first time everybody in Boston was like, holy shit, the Pats are good. Like, I vividly remember this being a kid. I'd be like, oh my God, the Pats are good. And then they beat us in the playoffs on the Sugar Bear Hamilton. I watched it. It was Musburger doing the call on the video. Yeah. Right? Yeah. And look at Steve Grogan. Now, not only, look at it like he was, this is the first time this happened, 287 yards passing. Watch this. Watch this. He runs for a touchdown. He had like a four-yard touchdown. He looked like Lamar when you're watching his clips. He's flying around. The guy who posted that, what's his name? Kevin Gallagher? I think so, yeah. He's been posting the Cosell halftime highlights. Yeah. I feel like the NFL Network should just run these from like two to four every day. He was so into it. He was having such a good time. Just like, and then, Billy White Shoes Johnson brings the Falcons within three. How about this? The Howard Cosell channel. You get the, you get the, boxing, you got boxing, football, baseball, you get the superstars, right? The Battle Network stars. Battle Network stars. All the wide world of sports. You get all the, yeah. That should at least be a fast channel. Just call it Cosell. Yeah. Buy the rights. We killed the Raiders. We should have won the Super Bowl that year. Oh well. Well, this is also revenge for last year, right? This was the outlier game of the, of 2025. I, I feel like this line's too low. This is dumb. Hmm. I feel like their inability to run the ball this season and the fact that they don't have a scary receiver other than Bowers, we should be able to game plan for it, but we'll see. Packers are home for the Bears. I put this as a watchable because, um, of the, of the history of this, of this, of this, of this matchup where neither team, we never seem to have both of these teams good at the same time. But I put it as a watchable because I feel like Caleb will be back for this game, right? I can't say anything because, uh, well, you put your guess in already, right? No, I, I bet I made my guess assuming he's coming back. So I made the Packers as low of a favorite as possible. Packers minus one and a half. It's exactly what I had and we should have gone lower because the Bears are favored by two and a half. Okay. So he must be coming back. Completely. I'm counting on him coming back. Yeah. Yeah. Well, if that's the case, I'm betting the, uh, I can guarantee I'm taking the Bears for ring or 107. Really? Because I think they're three. Yeah. I think they're just talent wise, just better than the Packers. They are right now. I don't like seeing this game this early. I want it to be miserably, brutally cold. They play again on Christmas. They should play two weeks before Christmas or something. It's too early. Lions. Lions are at Arizona I had the line. I put this in the tic-tac zone. Lions minus one and a half in Arizona, which is probably too low. Oh, you went, you went way too low. Yeah. I said five and a half. It's four and a half. Yeah. You know, I went too low because I don't think the Lions are good about that. I don't think their defense. I think their defense sucks. We crossed off the Cardinals. Didn't we cross them off? Oh, no. I think the Lions defense sucks. Oh. Like the Cardinals should be able to move the ball up and down on that team. It's true. They should be able to run the ball. They should be able to throw the ball. This is where Brissette goes for 440. Nothing's easy with the Lions. Like we said this last week. Like if you have an eliminator pick to use, like you're going to sweat out the Lions. Doesn't matter who they're playing, if they're home. I feel like Campbell gets flustered when it gets, when it's noisy. Even when it's home and noisy, he needs to speak. I like that theory. It's like he's competing in the French Open or something. He needs it silent. Also notable. File this one away. Gibbs, who was 15 years old for 46 today and four for 31, but did not seem to have the same oomph that he normally has. They put a shitload of touches on him, right? He was on pace for like 500 touches and he did not normally do that. I wonder if that wore him down a little. I like the cards in that game. I think that's, what do you call the underdog on the wise guy show? The man's best bet. Man's best bet. Yeah. The dog. That would be somebody who had the cards fairly watchables Vikings at the Saints. Vikings are prohibited from being anything higher than fairly watchables because their offense is an absolute clusterfuck to watch. I have them as minus one and a half point favorites in New Orleans. The Viking. I had the same thing and that's exactly what it is. Okay. Um, Tyler Shuck on pace to lead the lead, uh, everything in fantasy points this year. If he has a big game tomorrow again, right? Yeah. Just lighten it up. Jets, Browns in Jersey. I had the jets favored by minus one and a half. I don't feel good about it. You should. That's what it is. I don't know when I went so high. I wasn't buying this Browns thing, but it is one and a half. You get it. So why aren't you buying the Browns thing? You talked about a little on Friday. I don't know why, you know, I don't know why. And they have the rest advantage and they have their, they're going to the jets who miraculously have an interception. Now. I don't know. You tell me, why don't I like the Browns right now? I just think this is a, this is a clown show with Watson. He can't, this can't be happening, right? I know, but he's been competent for three weeks now. Okay. I think the thing with the NFL is if you hit two drafts in a row, you just have to throw out anything you think you thought or knew or anything. It's just so easy to vault up. If you have these nine to 10 young guys that are above average at position or in their case, like they nailed both of the receivers, you know, I don't know. There's some energy around them. I think they could beat the jets. Oh yeah. They could. I mean, I think that line switches. I think that ends up being Brown's favorite in that game. Um, next one. This could have been a poop fact, the game Steelers Colts in Pittsburgh. I really don't want to watch this. This will not make a TV for me. Um, I'm going to be with house next Sunday. Oh really? Where houses, houses coming in house coming away. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to be with them. Don't you? And you know what? Yeah. Steelers Colts will not be on the TV for house. And I won't have to convince them. Um, I have Steelers minus two and a half. Yeah. You're going to get it. I don't know why I was going, I was way going way over on these. I said three and a half Colts, another team. I don't believe in it's one and a half. So you get it. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven to one, two, three, four, five, seven to five, including ties. Do you think when it gets closer to, uh, when it gets starts to get really cold and, Carly. Yeah. It's Carly's on the sideline, like probably bigger, like a parka at that point. Yeah. The other jacket. What's, what's the wardrobe at that point? I don't know. Can she write, can you write with the mittens? I don't know if she gets, maybe you have to do voice texts. She can be like my wife when you walk with my wife and my wife's doing these voice texts. Tell Krista that I'll meet her at four 45. Right. My wife doesn't want to type anymore. Maybe. So maybe she goes to voice text. That'd be great. And then the coaches have to respond the same way. So there's a headset and a Carly headset too. Wow. Somebody's got to talk to her. It's like, she really cares. Can you, I mean, can you imagine when Steichen, he must have like two drinks and they're like, he's with his buddies. It's like a, it's like his day off. Right. What's the deal with your owner? Like, does she talk to you during the game? She's like, ah, she's got the team. Yeah. I don't, it's all your rent. You ran on third and nine. That's the old ball and chain. If I ever heard, I know what's going on here. She's like, she's like, Shane, come over. I was just, I was looking at our tendencies on third down. He's like, try to coach the game. My offensive coordinator is talking to me. Why do you think, do you think in the job interview, she told him like, I'm going to be on your ass. He's like, yeah, no, I get it. No, we all want to win. It's like, no, no, I'm going to be like bringing you pictures and stuff to look at. I wanted this to, can this happen in baseball? Can they just go in the dugout and sit next to the manager? What are we doing here? Are we hitting running? Um, okay. Broncos chargers is in LA and this is going to be a grim chargers game because the Broncos fans travel well. I think there's going to be 35 to 40,000 Bronco fans in this game. There's going to be boo birds. If it starts out slow, it's going to be a bad week. I'm sure there'll be trades and, and maybe even a firing before we get to this. I had Broncos minus two and a half. I don't know what's wrong with me. Of course it should be around. I know what's wrong with you. You have kidney stones and you're on heavy medication. I'm just cleaning up ever since you had the kidney stones. I had one and a half. Of course, everyone should give the chargers. It's not even a home field. You're right. So you get it. Okay. Three and a half. Sorry, Kobe. I failed him again. Yep. I mean, think how embarrassing that is if you're the chargers. The Broncos who have 13, 13 points in the first half this year. One first half touchdown. Yeah. They're coming to your place. You need the game. Your season's, your season's over, but I guess it's technically in the line and you're not even like three point underdogs. I mean, this has to be a six point swing from like the look ahead and the look ahead. Yeah. And it's not even like Denver's great, right? Like this is a six point swing and it's all charger based. Does anyone love the look ahead line more than Raheem? Oh, they love it. He and the bundle. Like if, if, if, if in October, the look ahead line on this was chargers minus four. And what's really happened since then? Well, they're on the third string quarterback. Yeah. Well, the chargers got hit by the plague. Um, poop FECTA three games. First one is Texans Titans. Texans going for their first win. Here comes cam war three and 18 for the year. And, Robert Sala and Brian Dayball. Sal and Dayball. I have Texans. I couldn't go higher than seven and a half. I have Texans minus seven and a half. We say, I don't even get that. We split it. It is six and a half. That is humiliating if you're the Texans. You can't even be favored by a touchdown over the Titans. Do you see some of Cam Ward's plays to get today? Oh, yeah. Do you see the one when he was scrambling and tried to do the Paul Crew lateral to the side to the guy who had no idea he was being lateral? Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Everyone, yeah. And then the press conference, he was very mad because people weren't punctual. So one of these teams is going to be 0-5. If the Texans are 0-5, I don't have a good feeling about this game. I don't know. I'll tell you this. I'm not putting them in a tease. Me neither. Let's blood brothers do it. I mean, I'm not doing it. Is there a D'Amico-Ryan's conversation to be had? The game management's been crappy. The defense is underperforming wildly. And that was supposed to be, you know, the thing that he was good at. When I watch them, I never feel like they have their shit together. They have dumb penalties and penalties the whole game. And the other team's QB always seems pretty comfortable. Like this was all the stuff he was supposed to be good at when he was at DC and the stuff he was good at even last year. I don't understand why they went backwards this much. Other than expectations. I don't either. I really don't get it. You don't want to pull the plug on him. He does make the playoffs. He's got a nice little record for making the playoffs if that's the goal in that junk division, mostly. But some guys really need their specialty to shine, right? So if his defense is going to be anything but forget about elite. Just don't give up 27, 30 points a game, 31 points a game. And then, you know, three of the first four, it's not good. Bengals Dolphins in Miami. This has all the makings of a five touchdown Joe Burrow game. A pad. The stats are. You do have my permission to put the Bengals in the tees. I think I will. I have Bengals minus seven and a half. Damn it. Come on. Let me get one on you. What is it? I had. That's what it is. Seven and a half. That's a teaser. I, you know, I realized when you and I both had Bill Seahawks today that the one of those teams was going to fuck us. Right. I tweeted it. I texted you. And of course it was the bills. Your team. Yeah. Maybe we have to have a coin flip for the Bengals. Let's figure it out. They could be down like Higgins was, was a banged up too. Right. Are they going to be down both those guys? Just going to throw it a good second. The whole game. I sadly watched both Dolphins games because I watched them. Last week against the chiefs. Cause we were Zoe's boyfriend. He was a chiefs fan. And then I watched them today. Cause it was one of the four games. They're not terrible. I mean, Willis is pretty terrible, but for the most part, I. They're not like they make stops. They run the ball. Like Ollie Gordon was pretty good today. They have wide receivers. You don't even know who they are, but they occasionally they'll make a play. They play hard. They seem like they're pulling for each other. It's not, it's not as awful of a team as I thought they'd be. Right there. You want to uncross them? No, no. They're. They're awful. I'm just saying like, they're not. No, they'll, they'll, they'll break off like a 30 yard run somewhere. Some of them are like, Oh, I can't, I can't turn that game off and put the baseball on a full screen. Yeah. It's a bunch of guys who have something to prove at least who either have never done anything before, or they're getting a chance that might not normally get. And they, they do play hard. Like I, they were in that Minnesota game. They were really trying to take it. Right. And Minnesota had to work for her and make a couple of plays in the fourth quarter, but they hung around. Washington is home for the giants. This is another game that will not make a TV. And I have Washington favored by two and a half. Ooh, do I get this? No, I don't. I said four and a half. We tie. I factored in Daniels cause I assume he's back next week. Um, I think he is. I don't. Yeah. If it's three and a half, you think they're, they're thinking he's back. Well, Washington's not good. Uh, I don't know if he saw him today. We're falling for the giants thing again. I'm not falling for anything. I'm not betting on that game. Okay. Sunday night. Ravens at Atlanta. Atlanta can think about the seven times they had a chance to get Lamar Jackson and just didn't. Uh, I have Ravens by three and a half. All right. I get this one. Not going to matter. That's what I had. I think this could go up. If the Falcons suck tomorrow, I'll get saints. Their third. This is it, right? This is their third prime time. Game second one's tomorrow. Cause you think like the Falcons, we, we said to ourselves, this team is awful. Then they had a Thursday night game against the Packers who stink, right? They beat the Packers. Then we're like, the Falcons are back. Pennix. I'm still gravitating toward the Falcons are terrible. Yeah. So we'll see what happens tomorrow. He definitely plays right. Lamar. I know he has an ankle thing, but he'll play Monday night. If you notice the slate was lifted. A little late. It's because the chiefs aren't a buy. And because this game is the Monday night game. Rams bills. Great. It's in LA. I could be talked into going into this. It's true. Yeah. Why not? Not, not against going to it. Anyway, I have Rams by three. I said one and a half. It's two and a half. So you, you complete the crushing here. Oh my God. I don't even want to add them up. Jacoby's got to be. Sorry, Jacoby. Don't listen. If you haven't listened this far, Jacoby roots for me. I feel like this is, I'm basically beating the third string QB. Like I just beat the Rutgers QB. Cause you're on all these meds. You're in pain. Yeah. I don't feel like this is like, these are like real wins. I'll get with it. I got to get rid of this thing though. You're right. It's enough. It's enough. Now you won. It's fair and square. So what is this? Three, one, one now through five. I'm three, one, one. I can come back. I got it. Today's parent corners presented. I work day. Part of parenting is setting the rules and guardrails. You create them. And then your kids immediately try to find the loophole. I know your kids do this, but when it comes to work, you can't afford to have loopholes. Work days, expertise in HR and finance means their genetic systems are compliant, permission aware, and operate within enterprise controls, delivering 24 seven accuracy to not just get work done, but get it done. Right. So you were in Brooklyn. Yeah. Not to step on your parents. You were in the parent corner, but, uh, our cousin, Jimmy had shows in Brooklyn all week. What a fun time back. And you were with a lot of family, a lot of family out there, a lot of people who claim to be family. And then you're just like, all right, I must be your cousin. That's fine. A lot of, a lot of loud talking over music, uh, after the show and everything. I wasn't that I'm not conditioned to that. So, but I came back, I haven't seen the kids, right. Cause I was there all week. And then I come back and, um, to add insult to whatever injury I have, it's 98 degrees here. And I have no idea. No air conditioning. Cause we're told living a few blocks from the beach. You don't need it. Guess what? We need it. I'm done. I'm I'm fighting the permits. I'm getting it done. So, um, I, I told the kids, I'm like, I'm putting a fan on myself. I had a fan on myself, um, until like, uh, from the third quarter of the London game, like all the way until now, basically. And I said, you guys fend for yourself. And so that's what they did. So I didn't really see them. So my kidney stone is my, um, which is like a kid and it's got the word kid in it. So that's, that's my parent corner. Oh. It's like a baby here. So it's too big to pass and they're going to zap it. Right. Uh, and then what does that mean? So they put some kind of, they put some kind of, um, I don't know what it is. I wouldn't even know what to call it, but they put it on my abdomen, which is where it is now. And they shoot as many as 2000, um, for the lack of a better word, lasers into it to break it up. And if that doesn't through your abdomen, yes, through the abdomen and now I'm out for all of this, which is good, I think. And if that doesn't work. And they'll be able to tell right away, then they put something in my penis hole and then they zap it that way. Um, and then I have to pass it then, then the, the, uh, fun stuff begins. Um, so that's it. So, um, the pain, you know, right, right now, because I can't pass it, that's good, but the pain comes and goes because I still feel it. And I'm heavily medicated right now. I can't even speak. So I'm basically a combo of like Brett Favre and, uh, Robert Downey Jr and their prime. Um, so that's good. That's in their prime. But my favorite moment in Brooklyn is Friday after the show, I get to meet the Mets owner. Steve Cohn comes to the show, very exciting, you know, and it, but it's nerve wracking too because I'm like, all right, I have to delete like 200 tweets just in case he, uh, looks up or his son looks up, uh, looks me up here and I don't know what to say to him. So, but we hit it off. It's great. Met with them, fixing the 20, 27 roster with them. We're talking memorabilia. And then all of a sudden. Yeah. Here it comes. Here comes the pain. I'm like, motherfucker. I gotta, I gotta get out of here. I have to, I'm going to pass this stone that they tell me I can't pass. It's going to be embarrassing. Not like he's not used to embarrassing situations, but he's going to sign the kidney stone to play first base. I don't know what the hell's going to go on. So I half make up an excuse that I have the red eye to catch, which I did, but it was like four hours later. But I, uh, basically in the middle of him speaking, I'm like, very good. Very nice to meet you. I have a red eye. eye to catch if I get the hell out of there. And he must think I'm a basket case for ending the meeting there and getting out. So you were right at the point where you're about to get all this Mets info from him. Yeah, of course. So how has this not happened on a podcast other than your earbuds didn't work and we had to go to an emergency break? What do you mean? Like the kidney stones. Why didn't you have pain like this as we're doing a pod? Because I timed it perfectly. I timed the medicine now. Now I could time it pretty well. The other day I couldn't time it. I don't know why I didn't, but maybe it was the excitement of meeting him. I've met you a bunch of times. I'm not as excited, but that's it. Yeah. So yeah, so that's it. I had to get out of there. Sorry, Steve Cohen and Josh, your son, but it was a really nice meeting you. What were the other highlights from Brooklyn? What do we do? So Babydoll for some reason went to Italy for, even though everybody is there, he wasn't there until Wednesday night, but he claimed it wasn't his fault or something. Yeah. Was it his fault? Yeah. It was negligence. Is baby retired? I think he's retired. We had the staff party Thursday after the show and there's a lot of light, you know, he's like paying people to get him drinks and, uh, you know, like this, uh, this, this assistant, Jimmy's assistant gets an Aperol spritz and he's like, ah, who's better than you, baby. Aside from me, you know, he's always got to be. So there's a lot of that stuff. There's a lot of, uh, bragging about how much he paid for his trip. Uh, to Italy, to Italy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's, I didn't have to bend his arm at all really to get the $90,000 number out of them. So that's it. But, uh, yeah, there you go. Yeah. He told me that number as well. Well, we had a highlight with Babydoll there. We, there was this video on YouTube of the 1989 William Morris Christmas party that was an hour and a half long. Right. And we got to see baby Babydoll in his office. Right. Right. He's like 27. I think he was smoking. His assistant was smoking and he's just in there for a half hour. And we, we just were like in disbelief. Unbelievable. There's footage of baby baby. They knew I was in the mail room back then, but they knew I had superstar potential, baby. I mean, look at me, look at that. I knew I was caring. Uh, I couldn't believe that the shocking thing to me was how much he hated our Emmanuel's book. He's really trashing it. Yeah. No. Did you hear that? I hope he doesn't get in trouble for that. He's like, why did he, he's like, why did he write this? What kind of ego trip is this guy on? He really should keep those things to himself. He said it was poorly written. He thought the stories were lame. He just didn't like any part of it. I wouldn't mind my ass with this. Yeah. Yeah. Very graphic. He said he read half of it. He left it on the plane. He insisted the stewardess take it away. He didn't really do this. He doesn't care. You know what? Say what you want. What are they going to do to me? Fuck them. I already did the deal. Uh, how much pizza was brought to the, uh, to the show for Jimmy? So every pizzeria in Brooklyn just gives him pizza. Yeah. Because he'll like, he'll thank somebody on Instagram or something. Then the floodgates open. So then it's like just, uh, there's like 47 pizza boxes, all different kinds. Uh, it's good, man. I just, um, I'm like 80% black and white cookie right now. And, um, the rest pain medication, but yeah, Thursday it gets done. I'm going to do a, uh, a podcast with Tate. We're going to go over UCLA, Oregon. We're going to go over, um, we're going to go over Georgia, Alabama. We're going to do Cowboys bucks and I'm going to tag Raheeman and they're going to finish up the rest of the podcast. Then I get go and get this done Thursday. I don't really have a parent corner this week other than I've seen my daughter a couple of times. And, uh, I don't, do you tell me if your wife does this? My, my daughter really loves going out to eat. She loves like lunch, dinner or anything, but she goes out to eat. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. She goes online and looks at the menu and decides, and basically goes through the whole process that you go and you sit down and the waiter's like, here's our menu. And you look at it and you're like, Oh, I didn't realize you have Buffalo chicken dip. And she does it all ahead of time and plans almost like plant, like McVay planning for what his first 15 plays are for the Eagles. She knows everything that's on the menu. And she's like, I can't wait to try the fried pickles. I'm going to do the Caesar. I'm going to do the, I'm going to do the, I'm going to do the, I'm going to tell them. And she basically plans it out and I can't decide how weird this is. Um, I do that. You do it. Yeah. So you look and you think about it. Yeah. I like the element of surprise. I know I used to be like that. I think this is only in the last decade or so, but because we have such access to pictures too, I'm always looking at pictures and if it looks like sloppy or something, I'm like, ah, no, I'm going to pass on that. I really think it's like, it's, it's, it's, I'm sad if I make the wrong choice. So you want to, so ahead of time, you want to make sure you're covered that you're going to make the right choice. And I feel like I'm always led astray asking the waiter or waitress what they, because you ask them and it's what they like. It's not what you like. So I gotta, I have to, I do my research ahead of time. Well, as a, as a veteran of the, of the, uh, food service industry where it worked in a few different places, the move for the waiter, it can't be what you like because everybody's different. It's, it's much better to tell people what's popular in the restaurant. Like people really love, oh my God, they love these little chicken meatballs we have. I don't know why it's the most popular thing on the menu. Everybody, they come in, they specifically, I want Intel like that. I don't really care that you like the brand Zeno, you know, cause you might just like brand Zeno. The worst is when they say they don't need certain things, but still want to give it like, well, I'm a, I'm a vegetarian. But, uh, I really like the asparagus. Yeah. My boyfriend likes this. Yeah. Yeah. Or something like that. Yeah. And then you also learn sometimes they push what they have a lot of left, like the manager of like, Hey, let's get rid of the penny. I'll have vodka loaded up, but we're backed up 20 more brands. He knows. Yeah. Yeah. Um, yeah. So that, I think that's her biggest food quirk other than she really loves pickles. Pickles are good. Yeah. Yeah. So my, my mom sends her pickles and she just eats pickles like all kinds. There's, there's a place in the grove that sells pickles. Like she's really like a pickles connoisseur with like the honey mustard one is her favorite. Um, and my mom will send her stuff of pickles and different dips. And, and then she'd be like, my stomach hurts. And it's like, well, you had, I just watched you have nine pickles. Like, I wonder, I wonder, I wonder why things, but I think a lot of young girls, cause they're not fattening, right. You could eat a ton of them. By the way, someone bought me a pickle. I don't know if you've ever had a pickle. If you want to, you know, Christmas is coming up. If you want to hit Zoe with it, it was a, it was a great year. Yeah. But here's the weird thing. When my wife was pregnant with Zoe, my, you know how the, when people are pregnant, they have like food cravings. One of my wife's things was pickles. So do you think that because she craved pickles that got transferred to Zoe or Zoe craved pickles in her stomach and was telepathically telling her to eat pickles? For her entire life, love pickles. It's like a chicken or an egg thing. It might be the second. I mean, Ben doesn't eat pickles, right? He was, he was in that stomach, as you say. No, he does not eat pickles. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I don't think it's, uh, maybe the telepathic thing. Yeah. Pickles are good. Ben has been, uh, working out for like four weeks and is the most Jack person I've ever seen in my life. You know, there's people that could just put on muscle like overnight. It's like, he looks like Marky Mark when he was doing the, whatever that song Marky Mark sang when he's wearing the jeans and he's, yo, what was that song called? I'm blanking. The pods officially get in a weird spot. Good vibrations. Yeah. He's got like the Mark Wahlberg good vibrations body after like a week and a half. So I don't know. It's not pickles, right? Yeah. Curls. I really need to adopt another kid or get another dog to beef up my parents. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. My kids are too old. You're good. It's fine. You still have Harrison. He's got, you got a nice little run with him coming up. Uh, have a kidney stone. It's just as good. Just like parenting work works better when you have rules, guard rules and controls in place. Workday is the enterprise platform for HR finance and it that gets work done. Right. It's a new workday. Yeah. So next gen stats brought to you by workday. So, so apparently don't get Ari's book cause baby really hated it. You have to have him on to explain himself. How can one person hate a book so much? He said he didn't even finish it though. Maybe it got better in the second half. Yeah. Um, and also since Melanie interviewed Ari on the town. Yeah. And it's one of the best podcasts we've had on the ringer in like five years. Really? Just, they're just going at it for the entire time. But it's like, it's almost like professional wrestling. They're not actually mad, but it sounds like they're mad the whole time. But it's like watching Rick Flair and Sean Michaels, just like doing falls all over the place and You got to listen. And Babydoll's not mentioned, though? Babydoll was not mentioned. Well, because Babydoll retired. Yeah. Okay. What do you got to plug? Anything? Well, you want to talk baseball real quick? Yeah, let's talk baseball real quick. You were right about the Red Sox. I'm sorry. I tried to tell you, and you didn't believe me. I know. It's just. We can't score runs. It's very weird. I mean, the Cubs were the same way. You had two teams, gigantic fan bases, and I think you scored. You both scored three runs in two days. Well, we had the biggest thing that happened this whole week was the go-ahead homer or tying home or whatever it was, hitting the roof becoming it out. It would have been over. Yes, it would have been a go-ahead homer. Now, I don't usually like piling on the obvious narrative, but what the fuck? It's the dumbest shit in the world that there's a guardrail up there. I mean, when the punter would almost hit the Cowboys scoreboard, that was like a big thing. This is really stupid. It's probably stupid that the roof was closed anyway in Milwaukee. It was 61 degrees. And the best part of playoff baseball for me is the directing, like pitchers blowing on their hands and fans with smoke coming out of their mouths, and it builds so much drama. And although I guess you couldn't get more drama than the ball hitting the top of a guardrail and no one knowing what the hell it is. And the guy catching it. And the guy catching it, yeah. Adjusting. But I mean, this happens in Tampa all the time. The Red Sox lost the game last month when this happened. When the Rays hit a thing and it bounced down and the guy got a second chance and then we ended up losing 1-0. So it's just kind of to me, it's like part of the park. But yeah, well, obviously, but then they have to find out. Yeah, go ahead. You hit a home run that's clearly going to be a home run and it hits the side of the thing. And it can't have happened that many times though, right? I don't think it has. And they say, you know, they're like, well, that would have been out at Fenway and in Houston or they had like two parks where it would have been out. I'm like, you don't know what the, I mean, the thing's still rising forever. That was a shot, right? I think like, you might be off by four feet the way you're, any metric we have looking at this. And then you have to figure out if it was going to be fair or foul. Like, that's what the umpires are talking about. I'm like, all right, yeah, good luck. Yeah, you got it. Because if it's foul, it's a dead ball. Here's my question. We have ABS and all this other stuff. Why don't we have the technology that they could just figure out from the trajectory and the miles per hour if it would have been out if it didn't hit the roof? Yeah. They could easily figure that out, right? Figure out everything else. They claim they did afterwards and that it wouldn't have been out. But what does that mean? Really? Maybe it hits the wall. Like, maybe it hits the top of the wall or something. Maybe the game's still being played. Gus and I were texting about, I've been friends with Gus since 1982 and we've had baseball the whole time. We were texting about how fucking weird playoff baseball is now. With these, how it just has to be a bullpen game. And it's getting to the point where we take Sonny Gray out when he's had 14 outs and he's like one of the five best pitchers in the American League. Yeah. And we take him out so we can bring in the lefty that blew the game the game before. Stupid. Because somehow that's a better option versus leaving Sonny Gray in because God forbid it's got to be the third time around in the lineup. And it just feels like everybody's overthinking it. It's only missing Carly Irsay just next to the manager telling them what to do. Where is she? Oh my God. She'd bring out the lineup card every year. I don't know. There'd be a change every two outs. I think Sonny Gray's had 14 outs. By my notes this is enough. All right. You're bringing up a great point. And last so last week you asked me my World Series pick. I'm going Brewers over the Rays and that pays 10 to one on Fandle. But your point is taken like it's ridiculous. Tonight the Braves beat the Dodgers 3 to 2. That's a low scoring game. How many pitchers do you think were used? Oh my God. It was at least 8, right? Combined? Yeah. 13. 6 for the Braves, 7 for the Dodgers. The Dodgers starters Blake Snell. So you hear all Blake Snell, Blake Snell, Blake Snell. He doesn't get out of the fourth, even though he's not even really in trouble. They take him out. There's 13 pitches. So how are we supposed to pick a winner? That's my winner. But if there's going to be 13 pitchers a night, who the hell knows how this works out? I just don't like it. I really liked having starting pitchers. It feels like we zagged too hard. Yeah. You know, and it's never going to be like Jack Morris put in the twins on his back in the game seven and throwing 700 pitches, whatever he did. But I don't know. Um, I definitely don't, I don't love it. I mean, other than that, I think the baseball has been really good. The pitch clock's been fun. The matchups are good. Um, the one thing that's amazing to me is how fast everyone throws and just how fucking hard it is to hit baseballs. And you watch, like, I'm sure you follow a couple of these Twitter accounts too, but you watch like even somebody like Seaver, who is probably the best nationally pitcher of the seventies. He's not throwing a hundred. And one miles an hour, you know, he's on these different pitches. He's out there for 140, 150 pitches, some starts. And part of the art of starting pitching was trying to hold on when you didn't have your best stuff anymore. And now it's just gone. And then the next guy comes in, he was throwing 99. Yeah. Um, and I, I don't know, I guess it's the equivalent of when basketball, the three pointers, but, um, it's very different. It slows the game down. It's not, there's nothing like it because it's not like, like we see in the regular season, right? Where is there such a departure in the regular season to the post season in any other sport? There's nothing even close to how they manage pitching staff. Well, could they make a rule? Like you could only use five pitchers for the first nine innings or something, or unless there's an injury, that'd be great. I don't know. They tweaked it so that it had to be at least three batters before you could switch. Like maybe there's more they can do. I don't, I, the Red Sox, first of all, the stats seem to change. I think it is good to just keep throwing new looks and new pitchers and different, you know, different arms over the course of three hours at the other team, because it's harder for them to get in a groove, but it's just less fun for fans. It's less fun. And like you said, with Jack Morris and the workhorses going to the 10th inning, the best now you could hope for is like a Yamamoto pitches the 10th inning on two days rest, you know what I mean? But just that inning. And so it just, how you watch it, it just, it's just changes how you view the sport. So you had Tampa and Milwaukee. Yeah. Milwaukee to beat Tampa is 10 to one. I like, I think Milwaukee is like the best in baseball and has been for a while. And the Rays are going to have a hundred wins probably after tomorrow. And that they're the overly only team with a home field advantage of 56 wins at home. I like that because I, Tampa was the best team I watched all year in the American league. Yeah. You know, they, if it's a one, nothing, three, two, two, one, they're just winning. They do all the right things. And Caminero is terrifying. And then they have these other guys. You're like, this guy's good. And then he'll just get a single or a double, but, um, they weren't an interesting situation with Rasmussen yesterday where it felt like he was going to take a no hitter into the ninth, but he was over a hundred pitches. So that's only happened twice, right? Yep. The, the no hitter in the post season playoffs. Yeah. And I, it's a weird conundrum of it's better for the team probably to take them out. And for him, for the rest of the playoffs, but this is twice ever in the history of baseball. Like you kind of have to go for it. So I bet they would have gone for it. It's a great moment. How many do you have? So it was, they got a hit in the eighth. He was at like one Oh four. Yeah. But he still had one more out to go. Oh, and then that, you know, this fucking Austin Wells, by the way, as you know, I'm in this ale keeper league where we're from second, this guy was hitting one 50 for like two thirds of the year. And now all of a sudden his rope in line drives. Right. Makes me mad. Doesn't know how to run the basis, but doesn't know how to run the base. Definitely helped him out. Yeah. And then also the raise have Freddie Peralta who's a met and is now sticking it up. Art keisters. And when I say our, I mean my, me and Steve Cohen, cause we're kind of run the team there. Well, when they traded for him, it was like, yeah, he's, he's sucked this year, but then people go to the raise and they get miraculously rejuvenated. Yeah. WNBA. I have a, I bet on the ACEs to win the title after, after round one Golden state beat them. I didn't watch the game cause football was on because WNBA hates casual fans and they just want to schedule all the games. They easily do though. Every, every, every day. No, you know what they could have done? They easily could have scheduled one of the two games for nighttime so that at least you're only going against one NFL game and the rest of the baseball game. But you're in the, you're in the mix is one of the three games. Nope. They just put them back to back against 14 NFL games. Right. That's just idiotic. So I'm with you. Maybe send these games to Europe and then have them on at like two in the morning for us. And then it's really not up against anything. This golden state thing. They're an expansion team like two years ago. They're the best defensive team in WNBA. They're going against Asia. Who's the best player in the history of the league. And it's just on a heater and they win in game one and they still have, you know, it's a longer series in round two of it. It's pretty, I lost a lot of money betting them based on the, oh, they're an expansion team. So I think, uh, for, for a couple of years, the first couple of years, but yeah, solid. All right. Any plugs? Yeah. So, uh, uh, ring of wise guys, Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, Friday is a big preview show. Friday's show has been fantastic. It's a lot of fun. It's really great. I listened to it at 1.25 speed. The one this week was two hours. It was a good hour and a half of my walk around a hundred degree LA. Really? Yeah. Yeah. Um, I had a great time. We try to speed it up and then I'm like, all right, guys, if we don't want this to be an hour and 50 minutes, we have to do like five minutes a game. And they're like, we don't have to. I'm like, great. That's fine. Okay. We'll try to go. We'll go fast. But otherwise if it's a two hour show, that's just how it is. Every time you think it's speeding up, Raheem goes, you know, the look ahead line for this game in August is minus three. Yeah. We do a lot of looking back before we look ahead. It's a lot of reflection. Yeah. Um, lots of bad beats this week. Go take advantage of the bed, protect on Fandle. And don't forget if you end of Iowa under or any of those 4 p.m. endings in NFL the picks six by the Giants and Simmons talked about you'd be eligible for $50 reimbursement and reimbursements bed eggs.com B-E-T-A-C-H yes how sent us some bet bears the exact order for NFC North Bears Vikings Detroit Green Bay who is nine to one there is that the bets is that now that's pretty good did he just send us this I don't know whether he made that a while ago or that's a bet he wants to do now but that was what chain it what chain well hold on this Maria Taylor outfit is not allowed within 500 feet of us oh no that's not a that's that's okay no I gotta where he said yeah all right so that that would be let me see what this is now bears what was the second team Vikings yeah Lions Bears Vikings Lions Packers okay and that would be nine to one nine to one Jesus not bad plus 883 that's pretty good so bummed about the Packers what a dumbass team I think that's the right order you did it house you got it great job house you helped America all right thanks to Eduardo and Chris and Jack Wilson our end um Sal good luck on Thursday America's rooting for you we'll see you out hopefully we'll see you in a week good job by you buddy good job by you thanks Netflix I don't have a few years with him on the wayside on the first must be 21 plus and president select states for Kansas in affiliation with Kansas star casino or 18 plus and president DC or Wyoming gave him a problem. 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