Tesla's "Flying Car" & Espionage at OpenAI | PBD Podcast #874

[BLANK_AUDIO] >> Armeen, shout out to Armeen. But anyways, hey, you know the two teams who have spent a lot of money to get the best players. >> Are we going there? >> One of them gets a bunch of Hall of Famers. The other one gets a bunch of Hall of Famers. And they both get swept in the same play hall. We talk about the Yankees get swept by who? The Tampa Bay Race, yeah. And then the Dodgers yesterday get swept by who? >> Well, walk, walk, walk. >> And then Cleveland is up on. Is it the white who's Cleveland and the Tampa, Cleveland's up on them two to one. And you know what their budget is? >> What is it? >> $71 million. You know what the Yankees budget is? Somewhere on $3800 to $401 million to get that. >> You let that happen? >> We let that happen. >> Come on, it's your fault. >> It's our fault. >> It's your fault. >> We got Tom here, he could have gone and played yesterday. But we decided to go, yeah, we decided to go to a event for Dennis Prager. It was his first time since his injury that took place. Let me tell you, this guy spoke, he was supposed to speak for 20, 30 minutes. He went for hour and a half maybe, Adam. And he goes for now, you're sitting there saying, are you flipping? The message he gave was so, I'll share some of the notes at the end of the podcast about, some people can use the word great. Dennis Prager is the great, we have a great time last night. Lots of value, talk about a lot of great things. But today, we have this guy today with us, which is kind of a big deal. This guy named Adam Friedland, I don't want to hype him up too much, but he's like, some GQ calls him the younger version of John Stewart. I don't even know if he likes that or not, he's phenomenal with interviewing. He went to GW, he just got married two weeks ago. >> Thank you. >> Born on the same day as my dad, April 10th. He's one of the guys in life, so we're glad to have you on the show here today, Aerys. Exactly. Adam, good to have you on. It is an honor. I honestly, I was telling you before the show, your clips are at this point almost half of my algorithm, and I'm just like fascinated by the show because there's so much like, it's so like, who do you break your audience down into, like demographically? >> We did a survey. It says 39% of our audience are business owners. I think 80% of our audience is between 25 to 45. >> Yeah. >> Do you know that? Like a lot of cheeky boys like me. >> Like you. >> I love this show. >> It's great. >> We love this show. We're like, I don't know. I don't know. It sounds like the word. >> I think it's right. I think it's right. But I think it sounds. Yeah, it's accurate. >> Let me tell you, though. But like, I just love it because it's such a self-contained universe, and there's a hierarchy and you're like, you're the Capitan, and you guys are coupled to duties and like, it's incredible. There's this aspect of brotherhood and conflict, you work it out, and like, yeah, I just love it. And there's also aspects of mental health stuff, which is the same stuff that people that annoy me, like woke people, like I make fun of liberals who talk about imposter syndrome, and I'm like, wow, they're business guys that talk about it, too. It's just really fascinating, because it's so foreign, because I'm afraid to check my bank account. I yelled at my business manager that I didn't want to have an IRA, because I was like, I don't care about 65-year-old me as a loser, like tell her to make his own money. >> Like that. >> He has no idea. It's going to be like that. There's no idea. >> You guys are like, just, the attributes you guys have are like, just so far. Thank you for that. Listen, I tell you, we were having a massive strategy meeting talking to ourselves about whether we ever wanted to have an atom on the show, let alone two of them. So we're making an exception today and we're going to have a good time. So what that means? Let me get through some of the stories. >> Do you know about this guy? >> Who is he? >> I was watching his, I just want to publicly give him his flowers, because I was watching his deaf comedy jam last night, and I was floored. Let me tell you about white guys. We don't know how to, I hold the mic set. I hold the mic set like this, because I don't know what to do with my arms. >> He knows how to do moves. >> So kinetic. He uses the space, unbelievable, to get the approval of what, a black crowd, a theater. There was like a thousand, or two thousand like black audience members. It's like a bar mitzvah. I mean, it's unbelievable. >> The black mitzvah. >> Vinnie's middle name is Tyrone, Vincent, Tyrone Oshana, okay, Adam, we got a lot of stories to get to. We got a lot of stories to get to. >> We got a lot of stories to get to. >> Tesla launches this car. >> It makes sense. >> Okay. Tesla launches this car, and you see the video and everyone's like, there is no way this is real. This has to be AI, the first time you saw this. And then Elon's like, we needed a live crowd to be here to make this believable, because people are going to say, this is AI, right? You have a legendary person that said this person is dumb. This person doesn't know what they're talking about, makes you send a clip to the back. >> Okay, he got it. >> We have to talk about that. Number two, AI. He'll show you. Number two is AI espionage, which is kind of weird what's going on. Open AI employee accused of planting a bug in companies, San Francisco headquarters, and open AI is very concerned about what's going on there, so we'll talk about that. Eric Daeter's, this guy, is talking about Kimberly Guilfoyle. And all of a sudden, he starts releasing saying, I gave her $300,000. I gave her $200,000. I gave her $100,000. I had a $1 million commitment for her to give me on Tucker Carlson, for her to give me on Fox, for her to help something with IRS, give me in front of Pam Boney. What? Yeah, and I have all the exchange of text. What are you talking about? And then next thing, you know, the new press secretary announces that we are moving on with Kimberly Guilfoyle. A Guilfoyle, thank you for her service, et cetera, et cetera. Then the press secretary has her own challenge that he's dealing with. Is she an attorney? Is she a lawyer? Pepper Dine? What were you doing in China? Did you practice? Did you not practice? >> Mm-hm. >> To the point where even Sean Hannity was pushing her hard yesterday. >> Oh. >> And you know when that happens, what that means? >> I'm good. >> It's not good. >> It's not bad. >> Yeah, yeah. You could potentially, the over-under break in Anthony Scaramucci's record. That's what a lot of people are talking about. I don't know about that, but we'll talk about that. And then we have a story about California DOJ, I'm sorry, DOJ Zoom in California for potential voter fraud. Then we have Elon Musk who puts $158 million in the race in Texas with Talarico, specifically the Senate race that we're talking about. And Talarico has been an interview. This Catholic lady comes up to her, says some stuff. We'll show some of those clips. Something guys got those clips ready as well. Then we have the Ford Hood shooting, which Hexet said was going to be a live stream. And now apparently the president puts out a true social saying they're not going to be live streamers. >> Of course. >> 81% of Americans didn't want the live stream. The 19% who did, you wonder who they are, right? Vinnie is like, I'm not going to. >> I'm back guy. >> I'm back guy. We'll talk about it. >> We'll get to that. >> I'm going to put you in pay off the national debt. >> 60 minutes. Viewership is down 41%. Why Adam's going to give us a breakdown on that, Shane Gillis. Shane Gillis does a, this is the SNL sketch, right? That he does. Monologue. >> Monologue. >> Monologue he does. And he calls these. >> He said girls. >> Girls look like a, a, used. >> Or. >> At the gym. >> And the ladies lost their mind and they went in the like one. Okay. >> It's dead up. >> Listen. We're going to play it. >> We're going to play it. >> Adam. >> Adam. >> And you can re-act. >> People like stand up is the most important thing on earth. It's not important at all. >> If that pissed you off. >> You guys should, I shouldn't be on the show. I don't qualify. You guys are way smarter than me. You guys are acting like we're the genius philosopher of kings. We talk about boners on stage. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> It's doesn't matter. >> So obviously this doesn't bother you. The story bothers you a little bit. I want to hear about it when we get into it. >> It's because of the trouble. >> Hold your thought. We'll get into it. >> For no. >> We will get into it. Billy Crystal. >> Oh. >> Billy Crystal says because of what's been happening. My friend, California fire, I'm thinking about becoming an atheist. Maybe a full blown atheist. >> Don't do it Billy. >> Wait, wait, explain that to me. >> Yeah. >> We're going to get into it out of it. >> Billy Crystal. >> California fire is what? >> Yeah. >> He's having a hard time believing. >> Who's California fire? Is that a person? >> No, no. >> The fire is that happened in palestades and everything that's done. >> Yeah. >> Makes him want to be. >> He wasn't an atheist to begin with. >> That's exactly what I was thinking. We're not. >> Yes we are. >> Literally not. >> Except for the rabbis, we would none of us believe. >> We hate life. >> We have the big bang theory guy, Chuck Logan. >> We don't believe it. Hell you idiot. >> You're going. >> Adam, I'm sorry for coming. >> You're going. >> We don't have. >> Heather, we believe it or not. You're going. >> You don't even know what happens after you die. >> You don't even look at that. >> Don't find out what happens. >> The rule is even Hitler, it's a spiritual like washing machine. We don't believe in anyone going to hell. There's something called Gehenna. >> Gehenna. >> Gehenna. >> You don't know about what happens in that. >> I know. >> Adam, so when it talks about. >> So when it talks about shiol in the Torah, what is shiol? >> Saul. >> No, shiol. >> It's hell. >> Hell? >> Yeah. >> You just got bizzah. >> Hang on, I'm on Amazon. I'm going to send you a Torah. >> We scared it. >> It's hurt a little hot. I had a Torah. >> Let me go through this. >> I'll bump off you. >> Hold it together. >> Okay. >> Last one. the last one at least, Paul Merlucky. Paul Merlucky, okay, the Oculus guy, the billionaire, young guy, 32 years old. His new company that they're selling drones and all the military equipment and oil is in talks to sell insider shares. You know what, at what valuation? 90 billion dollar valuation, and I think it's a small number. I think it's a small number. I think that company's gonna be a multi-trillion out of company with what he's building and how war is changing. We're gonna go that direction. All right, would that be in set? For some of you, yesterday we're at this event, this guy comes up to me and says, hey, so the FLB shoes, before I buy, do you know what size do they launch? Is it one size high, one size this? And you know, at times like, look, if you, if you, they run a little bit bigger, half size bigger. So if you wanna get this, get this size, right there, the guy buys an FLB shoe sitting right next to Tom and we both had FLB shoes on. But I want you to watch this year for the loafers. And if you haven't yet picked one of these up, they're the most comfortable loafers you can wear out there. So if you can play from the beginning and we'll get right into the podcast, go for it. - And Maiden Portugal. 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We have to have an audience. You're not like, there's a video. I don't know if you have the video or not. I'll send it to you in a minute. Elon's like, we have to have an audience because people are not gonna believe what we're launching today. They're gonna say, this is AI and it's not. This is real. So this car, all of a sudden starts flying, flipping, turning around and for the people that have vertigo, you're watching the same. I would never in a million years want to do this. I just want you to see this year. And then, by the way, did you guys see the car that he did? How fast it went zero to 60? Did you see that clip? One second. It went zero to 16.81 second. I didn't see it. You'll have to see that effect. It's insane. Go ahead and play this clip. Go for it. Wow. Watch this. Again, this is not AI. I'm gonna see. Like. Like. How was that? Like, how was that real? I'll tell you. You're telling me that's real. It's real. That is real. That just happened. That just happened. There's an audience there. That just. And that's one of the clips. I'm about to send a couple other clips to the guys on the back. And the best. Watch this. Watch this. Go. Oh, that music you can't do with the bar. I mean, is that me and you were throwing up horribly? Yes. How was the question Tiko kept asking? Is there anybody in the car, Dylan kept asking? Is there anybody in the car? I'm like, that's actually a pretty good question. If somebody wasn't in the car. So, this announcement comes out. So, I'm guesstimating the Tesla stock today when the market opens if it already did. Can we look at how Tesla stock is doing, Tom? You think it's. Real quick. I mean, I don't know. When you do a launch like that, people have to sit there and say, "Okay, it's up." Nothing crazy. Less than a percent, but it just started. So, we'll see what happened with the announcement. Hey, go back to five days real quick. Yep. There's the car taken off right there at the end. Let's say. So, go to the video. Go to the top left. Go to the top left with Elon speaking. Is this the one where he says, "We have to do this live because some of it may be AI?" Go ahead. Go forward. Watch this. Are you going to see some. Crazy stuff tonight. Like. We need an audience to prove that it's not AI or SI. So, you guys can tell people you sort with your eyes. Because what you see with your eyes, you will not believe. It's not live. But you're going to see the results of what happens when you have a collaboration with the world's best car company and the world's best rocket company. You think he's slightly competitive? And this is the culmination of incredible work by Tesla and SpaceX. Here's Neil's working closely together to make something that you haven't seen in any movie. That's better than any James Bond car. Are you going to see something? You can pause right there. Let me show one more and then I'm going to come to you for a second. Can you do me a favor? Play the clip of Elon on Rogan the first time he's on there. Okay, this is very important. This is the first time he's on Rogan. They're having a conversation. Elon's explaining to him what he's building. Watch this clip. Go forward. For rocket thrusters. For real? He's laughing. He's thinking he's joking. I think ultra-high pressure compressed air. 2018. He's using all gas thrusters. Did you have air tanks or are they sucking the air out of it? Okay. Yeah, it's an electric pump. Whoa. Pump it up to like 10,000 psi. And how fast are we talking? Zero to 60. How fast do you want to go? We're gonna put rocket thrusters on it. Okay, so Adam, thoughts on this? Okay, just a question. Like, do you think this is shaping up to be a race? Like, like, we have to win the flying car race. Because like, we lost 4G. We lost 5G. The trains, you know? I don't know about this. What do you think? What do you think, Tom? What do you think? That's a pretty good question. Like, China, and also, we have to protect this IP. Yeah, I think that's a good question. Better at protecting their patents. Oh, stealing R&D. R&D. Yeah, yeah. Tom, what do you think? Look, I just want to look to see if I get one. And it says by invitation only. You know, there's two levels of it. Yeah, but 5,000 down, 45. Have you been invited? I got a chance. Yep. I was invited for two. You got one or two. So basically, this is known as a flagship car. The hyper cars, the flagship cars, all the car companies do it. But this happens to be exactly what he said. The collaboration between a world's best rocket company and the world's best car company. And he's putting together here what you saw there. It worked. It was, there were under the car. There were things that were sucking. And it was holding the car down to the ground. And that's when it went upside down. And then when you see that it twirls, you'll see out to the side. There's like a little puff. That is a, that is a, as he said, 10,000 psi cold gas ruster. Spraying to the side. And what that does, it makes it rotate. It's the same thing that's on the side of, if you go look at the old Apollo command module. These are the same things that's on the side of the space shuttle. Which are these little jets on the side that cause things to turn. And so everything you saw here is real. I completely understood it. Yeah, you look over there on the top left picture. Top left picture. You see those little square jets on the side. There's one point in the north southeast west there on the side of them. That's what he did on a freaking car on earth. And so this is like a hypercar flagship showing people. It goes up the ramp, sucks itself to the ceiling, jumps off the thruster fires, rotates it around. Then the thrusters fire down the same way that they land the rocket by firing it in reverse. And it's a big metal chopsticks come out and grab it. Yeah, it's just it's the same principle. What you saw him returning to earth with the rocket. Yeah, Pat returns that card to the ground. Well, my question is this is this is his hypercar. He's got five aces. Yeah, five. Would you buy one? Would I buy one? Absolutely. Have you ever bought a Tesla before? No, I haven't. No, okay. Obviously, I'm not asking. I'm leaning towards it. But leaning towards it. But hear me out. Would this make you want to buy one? I've never owned a Tesla before in my life. Would this make you say I want to buy one of these cars? Yeah, it's a super car. It looks. Well, that's it. I would. But guys, here's my question. It's not the flying part. We're not going to fly it. That's the question I want to ask. Was this demonstration just to kind of show the car, but do all the because it was. He said he doesn't know. He doesn't know if he could do it actually. That's all saying is I think this was just a spectacle event to show. Like, look how cool this is to bring eyeballs to the car. Because the car is going to go 368 miles an hour. Which, by the way, I don't know if you've been in one of these cars. Tom, put me one of the two days. It's scary. You're going to snap your neck every single time. Wow. I think this was a publicity thing, which I love for the vehicle. I don't think it's going to do that. It's not going to flip around. But, but are we like, what do you make of the fact that like we, from what I understand, you guys are business. You know, like 64 of, I think 72, like crucial like races. China has the advantage. We only have eight, I believe out of those 72. Like, do you think that this is like a crucial kind of thing that we need to kind of. Because in R&D, it feels like we're falling way back. Solar, we lost the trains. They've built like supersonic, supersonic trains. Thousands of miles of them. California can't build like 100 feet of it. Yeah, we know. Well, no, it's all the municipalities have. Every municipality, that's why Amtrak can. we don't have high-speed rail. It's like you have to get approval each time. You go to a new carrier, new municipality. It's just like, it's impossible. - What do you think? Do you think it is that important to have flying cars? You think that's a race that's important to win? - I don't know, I'm asking you guys. I don't see-- - I'm asking you, I wanna know what you think. 'Cause you're asking a very good question. - I don't know, Elon Musk is smarter than me. He has a truly-- - That's not the question. - I lost the rest of it, you guys. - That's the problem. - Do you think it's a big deal to be the first to come up with the flying cars? - Versus China, you mean? - Yeah, versus anybody. - Look, I'll just back up a second and I'm gonna answer your question. We talk about having a long-term vision. Clearly, Elon Musk has a long-term vision. Everything I'm thinking about with these flying cars, I'm just thinking of the movie back to the future. Flying cars, flying hover boards. This is what's going on here. He has a long-term vision. Connor said something earlier, he goes, "Anything you see Elon Musk do, equate to this one thing. Is this gonna work on Mars?" - And that's basically what he's thinking. There's one part in the movie back to the future. When he gets out there and he's doing the, Johnny be good. And the crowd is like shocked and he goes, "Listen, you guys might not be ready for this." - But you're kidding. - Your kids are gonna love it. And that's the way I work at Elon. We might not understand what he's doing this year, this decade, but in 50 years from now, 100 years from now, when Elon's not here and his kids are running the planet potentially, all million of them, they're gonna say, "Thank God dad did this and built all this." Now, I'll say this about China as much. It seems like you're maybe worried about China. And that's fine, but there's a lot of metrics where we're kicking their ass. It seems like you're only focusing on, where they're beating-- - Yeah, Tesla over in China and then they just sold his IP. - So like-- - That's what China is doing. - Yeah, and now they are beating us in battery technology. They have longer lasting-- - But there's a lot of things that we're beating them in. It doesn't seem like you're focusing on that at all. We lost 4G, we lost 5G-- - You're only focusing on the losses, we have a lot of Ws. - It looks like it's what, 64 out of 72. I mean, like it's, it's just not as numbers up. - Yeah, no, look, I mean, it's like according, what is it? - Our GDP are national strength, our national strength. - Well, I will say it's a pretty dictatorship. - Well, that, okay, so think of it this way. I'm not advocating for it, but like if you get a grant to do research in America, right? If your research screws up, you lose your grant. In a centralized economy, they have an advantage because they could screw up 25 times, and then on the 26th time, get it right. So I'm just saying, there's an inherent, in terms of state-- - Wait, they have students in our grant program that are stealing the information and trying to get back there. - Yeah, and they have girls that are gonna sleep with open AI engineers. - Yeah, I see the point you're making, and you're pointing out that, oh, we're losing all these racists according to the law. - I'm saying we're losing, I mean, I'm just saying, it's trading the other way. - You said that, you said the right ones of them that we lost. - That's what I'm asking you guys. - Yeah, well let me ask you, how many of those do you think are being compromised by spies and things that have infiltrated the college system, that have infiltrated the grant system? And so to say, China is beating us here, here, here, here, and here, yeah, some of them, they are, but some of them, they're over here stealing, and that's how it's going back to the other side. - That's what happened to Tesla, that's exactly, right? Like, they're out of whatever to China that they took his IP. - That's what-- - Yeah, that's what it does. - That's exactly right, that's that. - I got a great pair of Jordan's for them also. And so I just, I saw this article. - Oh, they're the ones with the stitching that doesn't match 'cause those are Vietnam. - No, no, no, they have, they have great ones. - Until the Tesla roaster, there's only one car in the flying car market, and this is-- - Gotta be chat on this. - Look at this car, Pat. This is A-Left. Welcome to Tesla to the electric flying car race by flying over a roaster video. - Who is this? - This is A-Left, A-L-E-F. I think this is ours. This is American, 'cause I asked, I asked Chad GBT, who's winning the race, who's leaving the car. And they said, you said a good thing out of my thoughts, it's us in China. - That is the ugliest car in my life. - By the way, by the way, hang on guys, guys, guys. - That's not a point. - Pat, that's not a point in car. - Adam said that, that's a hovercraft. - I know all about the show. Hang on, you know this, there's hovercraft, she had blowing underneath it. - Yeah, yeah. - Hovercraft, so it will take you across to the English channel right now. Big hovercraft. - Well, let me show you this car. - Like a foil. - If there is a conversation about innovation of what's going on. - Six out of 74, sorry, I missed-- - Here's the part to look at. - Oh, now it's five. It's all eight. - Adam, let me add a seven. - Adam, hang tight buddy, hang tight, I'm here. So from 2003 to 2007, China led according to this one report on different items statistically in the area of technology according to an Australian independent strategic policy think tank. China led in three, US led in 60, O3207. Then 19 to 23 China led in 57, US led in seven. And then today, the latest number is, what does it have here, 66 out of 74, and then even 69 out of 74. The latest data, and you look at the China high speed train versus California, China, they have 50,400 kilometers, US has zero. And California one that they approved in 2008 and Newsom said he was going to build it. I don't know how much money they gave him. 21 billion dollars, no, much more than that. Nothing ended up happening there in the state of California. - Well, China could just destroy your farm, right? Like they can eminent domain anything, right? - Yeah, you can't do it, or they could land in Minnesota with pathogens to destroy your crops. - Well, I'm just saying if they can build thousands miles of train tracks, we have the technology, but they could just like destroy, take your farm, like you want to move to China. - I'm just saying these are their, this is why they've developed a lot of China. - I'm saying inherently, their system has made them develop faster because they, they don't have to here until our law, why do you hate America? - It doesn't have elections. - I don't hate America, I'm just looking at the data, right? I want America to win. I love America. - That's how you're coming around, yeah. - And by the way, when you think that means I hate America, I'm just saying, look at the scoreboard, and we gotta get, we gotta get, bring our lead back, right? We can't ignore the scoreboard, we can't be down to 100 zero and say we're winning, right? It's like, go ahead, thank you. - No, no, by the way, this is actually a very good point. You have to think about that. To be when, it is a real thing when you're competing, you have to sit there and think about innovation being better and then knowing the other part that Adam, I had a guy on the podcast a couple of weeks ago, the guy that tweeted about anthropic, I'm an anthropic employee, I quit today, I don't know if you remember that guy, Jacob Coxon. He was here a few weeks ago and he said, at Tesla, no Chinese national works at Tesla. You simply cannot. He said, but at anthropic, and at OpenAI, when he worked at both places, there are a ton of Chinese nationals that worked there. So guess what's one of the things they do when they worked there? Whatever they learned from the interior, what the companies doing, they simply send it back over to China. And matter of fact, there's a story that came up and maybe we'll just go to the story next 'cause it kind of goes with this. OpenAI, employ, accuse the planting a bug in company San Francisco headquarters. This is on page 10, if you guys wanna go to it. Can you imagine you're working at a company like this and they're putting a bug in the office? I think so. And OpenAI has been fired and hit with federal charges, accusing him planting a listening device in an executive conference room at the tech giant San Francisco headquarters. I like this. OpenAI said it turned its artificial intelligence models into sluts to identify 35-year-old Abdulham Al-Fozan, a Saudi national, we used our models to understand a device where it comes from identifying that such a specific employee that planted a few days earlier, the company said FBI Director Cash Patel, alleged Al-Fozan was attempting to secretly capture sensitive communication about the company's super intelligence technology personnel first discovered the device wrapped in toilet paper on September 30th, a hidden camera later captured Al-Fozan checking behind the television where it was planted the same day he allegedly left a bag in a printer room containing another recording device when he returned asking about the missing items he did not mention it. Al-Fozan was arrested on October 9th and did not enter a plea if convicted. He faces a maximum of five years in prison and $250,000 fine. OpenAI said it has no indicators. He assessed the access or infiltrated models, ways, source code, or customer data. Tom, your thoughts on this? - The old wrapped in the toilet paper trick. - Oh, banana in the tailpipe. - It's a low five. - I'm not gonna pop it up banana in the tailpipe trick. This is showing you how deep the espionage is gonna go. That's all it's showing you, very simply. Is that people can be paid and you look at the level of it. And if anybody doesn't think that certain models and certain things that AI is doing, especially the frontier models, is not a national security threat, they're not paying attention. And when I say national security threat, means if these things are this important, why aren't we doing, as Palmer Lucky has talked about, is "protecting the hell out of the stuff we're doing." He's not just trying to do the defense industry. He's trying to protect what he's doing from other defense contractors and from bad people around the world. So if this is what's going on, and yesterday I did a couple of projects with Fable, it's frickin' crazy, the stuff that's in there. And it remembered like four different projects I did previously and it said, would you like to connect the findings that we had these other two things that you did approximately two months, three weeks, 14 days and 10 seconds ago? And I'm like, oh crap, yes, as a matter of fact, I would. And it's in there. I think this is dangerous and I think it shows that the frontier model guys need to step up their game on protecting their own internal staff and organizations. - Pharmaceuticals and defense contractors, Pat, have to go to a lot of extents. [BLANK_AUDIO] - Where is the IT oversight, where is the census on the stuff? You know, this is bad. - Is it common for the federal government like for our tax dollars to protect private companies? Is that, does that happen? I'm just asking. - Meaning what? Meaning for? - Like if we have to, like we have to have troops outside of open AI, it's their, they gotta get their shit together. - So you're saying the cash potel has no business and this is what you're saying? - I don't know, I don't know if there's a precedent for that. - Is that, I think there is because if you're leaking info, if you're leaking info to somebody else within a company, that itself is a crime in America that you're gonna go to the government and say, hey, this is one of our guys is doing. So that part, you're protected as a company. - From the government or from a private company, right? - No, it's a law, you key. Like if you worked here and I find that Adam, you came in here and you put a camera and you left and we recorded you putting that camera there, you're gonna get arrested. - Really? - You want to try it out? - I don't know. - No, you didn't get arrested. So there's compliance, there's security. - Okay. - There's compliance protection. But to me, Tom, with the question Adam is asking, how do you protect against it? - Okay, here it is. - You know they're sending sexy girls to SF, they had a meeting at open AI to be careful of sexy Chinese girls. I swear to God, because they think they're gonna honey pot the engineers. - I believe it. - And these guys are the biggest nerds in the world. - That's true. - They're gonna, these guys are, we're screwed. These guys are desperate. (laughing) - And after four minutes, they're like, "Wow, I'm doing great with this world." - Yeah. - They're like, "How do your question, girl, see your question?" - Adam, let's say you and I did a Palmer Lucky and we built a defense company. There are audits, the defense department come in, audits on IT, audits on a lot of things. So they do not pay to protect us, but if we're building sensitive stuff like missile guidance technology and stuff that we really don't want bad guys to get, we would have all kinds of audits and people in our place. But they come and go on an audit. They don't provide federal dollars for protect us. - That's a defense contract. - This is a private property. - I think you, you ask. - Open AI is a private company though. - No, no, I'm not arguing with you. I'm answering your question. You said, "Hey, has the federal government ever?" You know, the answer is, if this is declared important, the federal government need, - But that's government expenditure though, right? - So that's why they're auditing it. - Honestly, they need to get their shit together. - But the government is using these models. - Well, honestly, first of all, I think this whole thing is terrifying. And the amount of people that have control over it being like four people is terrifying. But I don't think that we should work for these companies. I think these companies need to protect their own interest. I don't know. - Call me a libertarian. - He's actually asking some decent questions. To me, this is actually a bigger story that we're even letting on because it's like a multifaceted story here. There's a couple different things here. There's an H1B situation going on here. This is a Saudi national. If you told me there was intellectual property theft going on, I first think I'd be thinking is China. Now, Saudi is trying to do something. It's a Saudi national. So there's intellectual property, IP theft. There's potentially some intellectual terrorism going on in a Saudi national security. If you were to tell me that this company was hiring, did you say that was OpenAI or would you say was the anthropic that is actively hiring Chinese nationals? - OpenAI. - Okay, so what are you doing hiring these people? So it's a multi-AI conversation about H1B. Why are you hiring these people? Bringing them into the country when you know that they're going to steal their own. - Well, let me, let me, let me, let me ask you this question. - They're trying to have only three companies. - Yeah, let me ask you this question. - Right. - And by the way, a part of that of them wanting to use regulation to not allow other people to compete with them so they can have a monopoly. - Yes. - A former that this has been going on for a long time. So when you're talking about eliminating barriotein, there's a part there. However, you know, when you think about the, can you go back to that story of the one that Adam brought up, the New York Post story, about the honey pop story. Can you go to that? Look at this. OpenAI's blunt warning to employees about preserving company secrets. If you're getting hit on, it's probably a sign. - It's a nerd, bro. Nobody's hitting it. - Working their whole life to be millionaires and now they can't even get laid. - So here's the question. So here's the question for you. The question is the following. Can you imagine a guy say, hey, you're not as handsome as you think it. If a girl says you're hot, she's lying to you. - Oh, wait. - Don't believe it, right? - Vity, if Pat told you that you can't get laid, would you listen to him? - What do you mean? - He hasn't had that problem in his entire life. He's kind of gone overlaid. We need to get him to slow down a little bit. - No, I can't. - But we know he's a Miami star. - Oh, here, stay with me here. - Stay with me here. So when you think about this, Tom, here's the question. This is the question. Do we have a history of doing that? Does America have a history of sending spies to Russia or Iran or China? Do we have a history of doing what these guys are doing to us? - I think all of the West, I think if you were to look at the KGB, the CIA, MI6, and our friends in Israel, - No, it's not. - Most odd. You know what, you are going to find the spy, trickery, dating, sex scandal, leaderboard. - Wow. - You're going to find it, Pat. - I'm going to find it. - You're going to have, yeah, because to the point, they have more sophisticated ways they go after it, very sophisticated. It is not as simple. - Are you saying this because it's factual or it's opinion? Like, is there history? - No, I mean, we can go look at it. - We can go. - It's MI6, do you think about it? - I'm saying factual. Go look at sexual compromises, dating compromises, world spy organizations like CA, and look at them. You're going to find lists of them. You're going to find examples of what happened here and then things and divorced their wife and had a second thing. You're going to find them all up there and that was MI6 spying on us, spying on Israel. - Got it. So Martha Peterson, American spy, female spy in Moscow, in the '70s, she was one of the first female case officers to operate behind the iron curtain. She worked in Moscow, handling a Soviet diplomatic source who supplied American intelligence. - I look at the CIA. - But Peterson was not a documented honey trap operative. So what I'm trying to find that is, have we used a honey trap operative ourselves? - I think so. - So take a look, CIA, pull up a picture. - I don't know, we have it right here. Look at it. Historically, the CIA is utilized operation involving seducson and honey traps, such as operation midnight climax. - Wow. - He's in 16th century. - Wow, you would think the CIA and we're a little bit more. - The men were administered LSD. - Wow. - But when is the last time U.S. was documented for doing this? This is 50, 60, 70s. When is the last time? - They're not documented. - You were asking if we ever did a spy? - Yes. And now the Chinese are doing it over in San Francisco. A beautiful Chinese girl comes up to, do you code Python or do you have a Python? It's like, oh my god. Here we go. - That's it. - Wow. - It's over. I'm blue. He's working blue. We've got a guy in his 30s here. You're talking like that. - I just got one. You got two. You free speech. Can you tell who it is? Can I make a different distinction? - Yeah, go for it. - 'Cause this is what it seems. There's a difference between a spy and clandestine versus employees. Like, you don't go to China and see some guy named Bill. Like, what's going on? Like, you know, you don't go to Iran and see T-Rone, your friend that's serving in the military of the Masad. The difference is we're actually hiring companies. When I say we companies in San Francisco or wherever in Silicon Valley are hiring these foreign nationals to come in and inviting them to steal stuff. I guarantee you if you go to a Chinese company or a Iranian company or a Russian company or a North Korean company, you're not seeing Rick from accounting there. So there's a difference here. They're coming into America, working in our companies. We're infiltrating potentially. But like, why don't we have a law to show that I'm getting hired in their companies though? It's a big difference. Has there been a single law? We have Congressmen from California that tried to run for governor that resigned in discreet because of Feng Feng. So, I mean, Feng Feng was a spy. Has there been a-- Was it working for a company, was it? Has there been a significant piece of legislation to like regulate this industry? One, what they're working on? I can't think of one. What would you want to see? Maybe we should make them vet foreign national, like, by the way, I'm fully with that one. I do think-- This is reckless. No, no, I'm fully with that. Apart of me, the more I was talking to the guy, Jacob Cox and the more he was telling me, he says, this is what he says. These guys are my friends. He says, I'm uncomfortable saying this. They're going to get upset at me. I said, what do you think needs to happen to them? He flat out said, they can't work for these companies. Their loyalty is not to America. Their loyalty is to somebody else. Who are his friends? The foreign nationals? The foreign nationals are his friends. These are people you're going to lunch with. Didn't he work there for, like, two weeks? No, he worked there for two weeks. But he was at Open AI for three years. Three years, you're going to have a lunch with these people. So why do you think they're hired, though? Do you know why do you think who's hired? Because they're better at computers. That's it. Yeah. Because we suck at teaching computers, our guys. So they get people from China-- So, by the way, if I'm getting cheap or lazy, and why I-- That is a part of the argument where-- That's what they're hired, though, right? That is a part of the argument that Elon makes. Because for Elon, Elon's got a position on this that's a little bit controversial with others. South Africa. I understand what I'm saying to you is for Elon. He's saying the level of advancement of some of these people were not produced in America as fast as some other places. So I don't mind hiring them. That's a controversial position for some of the people. But Elon privately wants to be able to hire some of these brains to work for the company. Now, at SpaceX, from my understanding, Chinese National. can not work at SpaceX, because apparently, and if you can check this, because apparently, the government wants you to take money, you know, SpaceX, then a Chinese national can not work there. If we do have some there, that's a big threat. So then this goes down to the next conversation. This isn't even one of those stories. If there was a foreign national that was way better as a job than an American, they were both interviewed with you, your CEO. What do you do? Yeah, so, okay, let's process it. Let's go through it. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Is I joined a US Army, okay? I was in the Army, but I was born and raised in Iran. Yeah. Okay. So if I was joined the Army, what level of secret clearance would you give me day one? I don't know about. But just think, just be logic. Don't worry about it. You don't know anything. You're pretty smart. No, no, no. Why would you give me low? Because why? You want to be the army of a fair. I was in a US Army. You're such a suck up, dude. But the point is, you logically wouldn't give me a high level clearance for someone that was born in Iran, okay? That's a logical move. And what year did you join the Army, put it in perspective? 1997. Okay. Between the first and second Iraq wars. Yeah. So when you go in, you have to, like even when I hire somebody in the company right now, if somebody comes, I'm like, let's just say I recruit you from an enemy that hates us. We have a massive, you know, feud between the two of us, but you were the director of finance. When you come to me and let you say you were married to the guy's daughter, and it was a divorce. The boss. The boss. Yeah. You come to us, maybe at the beginning, we have to be careful what kind of intel we're sharing with you. Right. So I wonder, I'm sure these companies have certain level of security on what they're doing. But Tom, when you, basically, do you want the guy that is better at his job or not? Because I hear the Indian guys work way harder at that job. If you ask me, if you ask me for what types of businesses? For STEM careers, science, technology, engineering, mathematics, their way ahead of education was. I don't know. It limits a number of amount that you do is fine. Like if you limit, not an unlimited supply, because we got to get our guys to get advanced and we got to get our jobs to stay here, where our kids are getting better at these games, getting better at these jobs. But a part of level of access to information, there's no way in the world you're getting a high level of access. I don't know what the level of access is when some of these guys are getting hired at these companies. And these companies that have this type of technology, like, think about it. What companies should Tom, what companies, this is to all of you, what companies shouldn't allow Chinese nationals and Saudi nationals to work for them, industry, be specific in America. Anything with vaccine security, or you're saying vaccine, anything that has to do with medical especially with COVID, I don't want Chinese, okay, what else, let's say that's your opinion, that's one. What else? I'm talking about high end defense. Okay, I'm with you there. By the way, Palmer Lucky's company, Andrew, I don't want any Chinese nationals working for Andrew. Let's go to that company anyway. What do they make? Let's get into it. Let's get into it. So Palmer Lucky's company, this is a guy that built the calculus, sells calculus worth the couple billion dollars, 32 years old, young guy, decides to start a military company, building drones, and you're like, wait, what, what is this guy doing, building military equipment? He doesn't interview with a video, showing the guys what they're building. This is a drone, this is a disk, this is a data, and everybody is shell shocked that the guys building some like this, let me get to the story. Andrew is in talks to sell insider shares at $90 billion valuation. Andrew's industry is allowing employees to sell shares as part of a tender that stands to value the defense technology startup at roughly $90 billion, according to people familiar with the situation. The tender would be given employees the chance to sell shares at $94.80 each with overall size of the company, capped at $1.3 billion, it opened on October 13th and is set to close November night, the representative for Andrew declined to comment on it. Andrew was founded in 2017 by the billionaire Palmer Lucky and supplies a range of AI-powered products for defense, including unmanned fighter aircraft and autonomy software surveillance, tool, and augmented reality helmets for the military, which is sick, what he's doing with that. That's the picture of one of the -- What do we do? Let me read this. It's valuation double to $61 billion in May, funding round, the company counts, the U.S. Defense Department, among its largest customers generated $2.2 billion in revenue. So, Tom, Andrew will $90 billion valuation, is it low, is it high, is it a dumb move? If you're able to get in there and put $100,000, should somebody entertain it, and would you allow a Chinese national to work for a company like this? Three questions in order. Number one, I think this is a low valuation. This is basically a venture-class valuation, and what they're doing is there's some people at the company. Maybe they've been there a few years, and they want to take a little bit of money off the table. Maybe they want to try and buy a house, maybe they want to pay off student loans, whatever it is, Pat, they want to take a little liquidity off. And so, people buy the insider shares. What does that mean? Many, you said you wanted to sell some, you've got 100,000 shares, would you like to sell 10,000 shares? At 20 bucks a share? That's 200 grand. Would you like to do that? Yeah, I'd like to do that. Okay, great. Then, you go to the company that buys those, Pat, so the company doesn't get diluted. It's just an outsider that now owns some of those shares. So, I think that that valuation, even though in the venture world, that's usually a forward speculative, forward valuation, I think that's a little low compared to where they're going and the technology they're showing. So, that's number one. Number two, should Chinese nationals be allowed to work there? Hell no. They're working on stuff that is now up at tier one of the level of weapons that we have up there. Well, why do you want to get a hold of one of my F-35 planes? Why do you want to get a hold of a stealth fighter, even if it's at the bottom of the oceans that crashed off San Diego? One did. They were trying to go down and get it. Why did the Chinese want to get it? Because you want to take it home, not copy it, you want to build defense against it. But can this do, where do I have to go to be better? So, I don't want any Chinese nationals working there. So, that was your second question. And my third question that I have is just, you know, is our government moving fast enough for the high speed, venture class speed of a guy's like Palmer Lucky so that we can be reaching out and encouraging them to protect what they're building for? What do you mean by that? Go a little bit deeper than that. So, Palmer Lucky. So, government working fast enough. What does that mean? Yeah. That's what's going to happen. It's never going to happen. Yeah. So, government is always going to be a step behind. But what's your point, though? What are you going with that? Well, that means whoever is faster than that has a crevice to ledge and exploit. But what are these things for? Like, are they for like, like, we give them to you, Craig? I mean, like, what are the drugs for? Well, you didn't hear about the operation that U.S. had with Ukraine on August 15th? Yeah, yeah. Did you hear about that? So, but like, what I'm saying is, like-- But did you hear about that? What I'm saying is this is like, we have a massive industry in America that requires-- And did you hear about that? Yeah, of course, of course. So, what happened at the operation? That they all crashed. No, no. No, there was a test that U.S. did against Ukraine on drones and guess who won the exercise? Oh, Ukraine did. Ukraine won the exercise. So, U.S. Oh, waiter, are we going to find-- like, my question is this, it just seems like it's a stimulus into a week economy. Wait, let me-- You're not worried about drones? No, I really think that this is just like not-- defense betting is such a massive racket. He said that F-35, it's like every single aviation company just got billions of dollars and it crashed for years. I mean, like, these companies require conflicts to be happening in order to make-- They do, and that's the issue with-- Like, if you look at Israel, you create, like, we left Afghanistan and like, how are these companies going to make money? People talk like we gave Israel $23 billion. We gave Boeing, Lockheed, we gave America money-- Money was to them. And then they said it over to-- Yeah. So, just the question is, is like, is that-- does that benefit the American people? No. So, pause, pause right there. Let me ask you a question. The benefit is just weird guy to Hawaiian Jirpa. Just like-- Are you from the mindset? Yeah. The economy's bad and people aren't happy. Adam, are you of the mindset of we shouldn't invest in military companies to prevent-- Should it? Something in the future that happens? It's half of what we've invested. I didn't ask you whether we are or not. I'm asking you, should we or should we not-- Should we not-- Should we defund the military? No, not defund the military. What does that mean? What does that mean? Yeah. You're criticizing what's the point of building these military equipment. I'm asking you, if you were somebody that's running, would you be as interested and strengthening our military? I think if you're running on the strength of this, it doesn't earn votes. Tell me what. No, forget about votes. Because in a material way, it doesn't improve people's lives. I'm not asking you about votes. Forget about votes for a second. But that's their politicians. They have to. But that's not what I'm asking you. It's not about votes. None of us here are running for anything. No, it's about people that lobby you. When I'm asking you with, if you had a choice and you're wondering about the security, would you see benefit in us advancing our military? Would something like this that Paul Marlucky is doing? Do you see a benefit in that? What is the benefit to American people's lives? I'm asking you. Yeah, by this type of spending. What is the worst thing that ever happened to you in your life? Whatever. My mother died. Okay. How painful was that? Pretty bad. Pretty painful? Yeah, really awful. Was there financial consequence? How old were you when that happened? It was about five years ago. Five years ago. Okay, I'm sorry to hear that. I think six years ago. Okay, six years ago. Sorry for your loss. But think about, think about, you know, yesterday. I'm at the Dennis Prager event. - Yeah. okay then it's Prager two years ago on November 12th I want to see you can correct me on the date November 11 and November 12th right after he doesn't interview with us on the podcast it's it's fairly right yeah November 12th on November 12th he's on the second floor typically when he's on the second floor his wife's on downstairs in the kitchen making breakfast and lunch for him that's the routine she's never on the second floor yeah while he's on the second floor he had bought a new razor he leaves the shower to go use his new razor when he goes outside to use the new razor he takes it he slips hits his head yeah yeah two years ago instantly he becomes a paraplegic a quadriplegic quadriplegic quadriplegic yes quadriplegic yeah everything is gone they told them forget about it you guys got to have a plan to get this guy okay okay so unless you hear that story happening to someone close to you you don't think about it last night I come home when I come home I go to Jen the first thing I tell Jen is we just did our shower and we have a good sized shower you know family all that stuff that we do and the floor that we have is way too slippery I've never liked it super fancy I don't give a shit how fancy it is it's too slippery last night you know what the conversation was with us hey we got to figure out a way to address this thing here because it's too slippery and we got to fix it where am I going with this there is naivete why are we investing into this why do we need to do this with drones let me Adam you got to let me finish and I'm gonna come to you why are we doing this and why are we doing now why are we doing this do you know what we've learned with ward the last three years here's what we've learned with wars the last three years the giant the giant like Russia who everybody thought Russia was gonna eat Ukraine and Zelensky was gonna get destroyed Zelensky had the best small drones that they would make for $2,000 and they can send and build half a million of them and send them into tankers and shut them down send them into ships and shut them down then we learned us goes against Iran and guess what Iran builds that Russia was using now that Russia buys from Iran what what are those drones called that Iran build shahid shahid shahid they're known for that those two countries are not known for being the while this is where the point I'm getting to you that what I'm trying to tell you is when you get to a point like this it's very honorable that a guy like Palmer lucky and others are sitting there saying while the naiv people are like why are we building military equipment why are we doing all this other stuff you're living in your small little lala land that don't know what the reality of life is when the enemy wants to take you out and then when shahid hits the fan you know what you gonna be saying why don't we have more military equipment why don't we have more drones why don't we have better equipment no shit sure log because you said don't invest the money so nobody ever thinks about crisis until all of a sudden boom we're hit with it now you're saying all the where were you where was the US military what was it all these years were building into this kind of stuff so to me there is why are we giving it to other countries I didn't tell you about other country we're giving it to you created it is those are two but you isolate the issue buddy there's two different things the one item is us we need to be strong yeah ourselves so to isolate that issue I probably want to but Palmer lucky is doing and by the way I think I think this company that you're seeing that's 90 billion dollar valuation I think in the next five years yeah I think and a real has what it takes to be a one and a half to two and a half trillion dollar company in the next five years yeah and I also think a lot of other people are gonna get into the space developing this type of military equipment because warfare has changed in a massive way do they only sell to America or do they sell to other countries too that's a different conversation whether they sell or not I'm just asking theoretically I get what you're saying that's a different conversation if some of them choose to sell it it better be the partners the partner becomes an issue when they sell it to an enemy that's the part we don't want can I ask you a question okay we left Afghanistan right it was the longest war in American history right but like one benefit is that there's a massive industry that requires us spending money in order to for them to make money right the like defense industry right so we leave Afghanistan like then what do we do and to me in my mind I'm simple okay you guys are you're numbers guys you're much smarter than me like it benefits that industry if we have people dying in different conflicts and then we just keep setting the weapons no one disagrees with you so so but like here's my question like but here's a party have to realize don't as as a cynic would you're a cynic I'm not a cynic but you're saying that any time we we could the we can be attacked that's cynical the so what I'm saying what I'm no it's not cynical that's called preventative that's called being that's like I'm in the insurance I was an insurance base for 25 years you buy the last time Americans been attacked actually genuinely I'm trying to think there's Pearl Harbor right there's a reason why but that's not against it but that's that's a plane that's a technology why aren't you attacked ask that question yeah why aren't why aren't you attacked why is anybody invading the rich is country the world who gives a lot a lot of countries out of riches they get attacked we're also across a we're across an ocean from everyone else we attack we're geographically we have an advantage because we're across the Pacific and the okay so that's why else you think we're not attacked uh because uh Americans the richest in most powerful country yeah what a new last money you think that's why we're not we get more nukes we have nukes though right why would it why do we need these little crap but you're your your naivete of most people don't like their lives right now your naivete way of that's why their public is they're getting wiped in the midterms guess what what is the economy it's just people aren't happy if it happened and that's why I got wiped because the economy it happens well deserved that's how politics works people vote with the gas prices that doesn't mean it's always right yeah yeah people vote with gas prices I don't think like it's a little bit annoying if I find out my taxes are going to Ironman suits with like uh people people kind of need like a lot of other things in the country the economy sucks Adam you're doing a good job of no I think I think it's a debulous package for an industry that's what it is and it's inflating I'm ready weak economy no you're spinning back you're doing something very why you're you're making one point go ahead I'm sorry I cut you off yeah but go ahead yeah question for you you said your mother died six years ago yeah what yeah okay how did your mother died uh glio a potty glioba break hands what is that break hands I'm sorry to hear that okay now let's say right about the great step yeah your mom was actually murdered by a terrorist or even just a bad person what are you talking about I'm talking to your face about what I have my mom was murdered by a terrorist let's say what do you think you don't think that what are you talking about I'm talking about your mom got murder because you're if you're listening what's the last terrorist this murdered like my mom's Jewish mobs in Las Vegas what are you talking about I'm talking about all right what's my mom under your random terrorist killing your comedian right yeah you're being put in no you know you know I don't understand what you're talking ability to to think outside it's just a crazy what you just drop well I'm just I love your first thing is god forbid something like that happened to your mom god don't you think you would have a different perspective on national security yeah we need a Patrick is basically saying no because we get where you would just fucking spend it why don't you just keep talking how about how about you know I'm right that's why you brought up the crazy maybe your mom had such a big headache out of wave your conservatives you should be upset with this you should be a way there's there's two things he said when it comes to strength buddy there's two things I didn't doge go to the defense defensive orbit there's two things yeah hear me out yeah we don't mind the bait that's why you're invited I know very passionate we know we invited you I know and we respect but I will say it's like I'm so excited that's why I get that it's really hang on okay but if we're going allow the other person to it's rude of me I apologize we will give you the time trust me we enjoy the time you are yeah allow the others to speak and we'll come to and I want to hear your thoughts so Tom what do you say to the argument he's making well first of all you're you're you're kind of spinning and conflating two things and it's kind of a classic a classic debate I don't want money to go for that American people are starving there's all these things American people need yes there are there's a lot of things American people need they're not getting from their government their government is screwing up a lot of things that they do need I get that but this to be safer defense has been a deterrent that's how to conservative position that's a historical fact defense has been a deterrent right and we have nukes already though like that's why it's a deterrent oh wait a minute wait a minute I have a car already it's 10 years old there's advancements we're gonna upgrade it no you can't roll your eyes at that you know that's correct you have as it move the needle yeah wait a minute wait a minute you're a gamer you're a gamer today you have an alien wear no my alien wear computers like six years old I'm gonna get smoke Adam if you have Adam you know what I mean so nukes go to nukes yeah crazy they should exist there's so scary that's no problem so that's a scary to who but you should be able to add life on earth if you crazy if you have nukes if you have nukes which we do today it's too late I read we have it okay so that's gone okay well how many times have we used it in war twice twice okay how often is a weapon like that used not that often yeah okay so saying you have nukes but you're watching a war that's being won by drones and we are weak in drones don't you think we need to elevate that part of our game I think that it's a very logical question the drones would not be a deterred against a man you would be you would be amazed how much it would be because nowadays if the six did you watch the drones did you watch the 60 minute interview this week with the director of secret service no Okay, it's a pretty good interview. So the guy is saying what is it? attacks in attacks on can you pull up the stats that he pulled up attacks are up 25 to 26 by 41% on what he says attacks on the US threats on the US is up 41% then they asked them the question about drones and his answer is quite honestly we don't necessarily have the best defense against it right now and they're showing some of the equipment that they have for drones but we don't have that you know what the job of somebody that runs secret service or the military is they don't think like you they don't think like you do that that's they're they're wiring is not like you they're wiring is you got a really big military their wiring is how do I make as big of a military as we have huge military advances and we're behind that's what that is wars change and we're behind like Russia you know you know you know how many nuclear bombs Russia has 5,000 to 5,000 to 5,000 to 5,000 to one hundred and they're you know how scary is it is is Ukraine scared? Well why is it not to get a Russia? Why is it nice to you? Why is it not afraid of Russia? Because they're getting some nice because nobody uses nuclear weapons and so you were learning why are they there? Why is it turned so that you know not to wipe us off that's invention that's something that invention it is scary. Why is a taser or a gun on the hip of a cop? Because it's a police. Well that's the first thing they use. No, just have I'm just he's gonna rest people. Well and what? He said to turn. Well he's a cop too. You don't want to do things. Okay. Well then what do you think the military has tried to add to a country? It's the naivety. Now we think that we should be patrolling everywhere like a police. Oh no no see flip the answer. Yeah. I'm just asking you guys think I'm debating I'm really just inquisitive more than anything. It's not debating as much as it is annoying. You took your little buddy you guys are numbers guys and I don't think you buy this. I think you're just riding for Trump right now. There's nothing to do. It's a conservative conservative waste and it should be your number one issue. We are wasting. They're like you're trying to make 10 points in one. No, no, listen, listen, no, listen, it is a simple fact. I don't look at that. What's your outcome of being here? And I hang on a second. What's your outcome of being here to that experience? It's like I want to be honest with you. What's your outcome of being here to really? I genuinely enjoy it so much. You just said you guys are all Trump. What did you just say? You're all right. Have you heard anybody hear say you're just riding for Obama or Biden or have you heard to say that to you? No. No, so what are you doing? Because I'm not because I don't like I have we have a very regular. I love that though. No, we have a very regular conversation where we go through different issues. But for you, you go here and then you get cornered. You go here and then you get going. Okay. So what you're doing? The fence. Listen, it's a massive industry. They love me politicians. They have a factory in their district. Yes, they get a stimulus pattern. How a Republican president said be careful with the military industrial complex. Yeah. So what's the point? So because now you're advocating for so you have one of two things I'm asking. I still have an answer. My point is this. Let me ask a question. It is a stimulus to every single. You're not going to do this. If I'm talking to you, let me ask you a question. Yeah. You have two choices. If you're a leader, do you want to see innovation? They say that every time. If you want to see innovation in us, produce a better military equipment that's being used the last three years in war. Yeah. Or you're saying, no, forget about it. It's not a probably. It's not a top 10 list for me. I'll tell you what. When I would ask the question. I'm answering you. I would want it. If I had a lot of stocks in military defense, but now you're being sarcastic. No, I mean it. And you're not. I would want it because I want to be stuck in Andrew Rowland. I want it. But I'm talking. I don't play the game. You think of that. It's a question. I don't. I never do the base. Yes or no. Which of an is it? I think you'll have a choice. That the economy stinks. And I think that this and AI are artificially propping it up right now. Okay. So so so that's what I think this part. So to you is we don't need to make better military equipment. Let's not incentivize. Of a terrorist shooting your mom in the head every day. Do I out of fear? I don't think I should. The reason why don't you though because I was saying to people in the Middle East do though. Why do other countries? I'm saying in my life, I don't live in fear. Why though? Why don't you? That's an hour. That's a privilege. No, no, why don't you though? Is that your world? Answer the question. Why don't you worry about it? Because are you out of the world? Like that's not what happened? You're out of the world. What country? What countries have you? What countries have you live in for more than three years? America. Okay. I love it. What are the places? What are the places have you? South Africa. Israel. Israel. Yeah. Why do you think here? Yes. Why do you think you're so safe? You know, you're not worried about it because South Africa is. Why are you worried? Why are you not worried in America that you're not going to be the biggest economy of the biggest military? Because of that. There's a preparation. They say what if you get killed today, spend more money. So you're your welcome. You're welcome. You're welcome. You know, it's dirty. These are, these are, you're again, you know, it's dirty. You're playing the game of two things. I don't know. You're playing the game on two things. But your numbers guy, you know this. You're so fun. You're, you're funny. So listen, your number is, we can play sarcasm and have fun. It's not sarcasm. That's that part. You still have an answer to question. What? Do I? Why do you feel safe in America? Because we're the strongest country. No, shit, Sherlock. How did it happen? Why do we have to buy these gizmos for this? Because you have to stay that way. It's called only the paranoid survive. That's what they say every time. No, right now we have to have, have you ever ran a business? Have you ever ran a business? Yes, I do. Do you have kids? You don't have kids yet, right? When you do have kids, you know, how you're going to look at the world? I love this, by the way. Are you going to have kids one day? Of course. I can't wait for it to happen. When it happens, yeah, call me. I want to congratulate you. But I can't wait to see if you have a daughter and a son and how different you look at the world. I'm a big daughter. Whatever it is. Okay, we're going to go to shameless and, and what's the one? The abortion guy, the lady that had a son, and she got her to board it on tiktok. Oh, yeah, half a million likes. So what had a abortion on tiktok? Yeah. So now we're having fun again. When that happens, can we all apologize to each other for? I don't know. When that happens, yeah, when that happens, I don't share your worldview. No, no, it's fun. It's not it's fine. I don't think a terrorist is going to shoot me in the head. I'm sorry. You sound a little crazy. Say that. You sound hysterical. Where do you live in New York? Well, the reason why? My mom died from cancer. Maybe we should fight cancer. It's a terrorist. I'm sure your mom may be died of a headache. One of the worst ones. Your mom might have died of a headache. And the brutal brutal one there. My mom died of a headache. You potentially about that. Yes. About her brain cancer. Yes. Pat. That's it. There's no time out. That's inappropriate. He made a joke about my mother's brain cancer on a live stream right now. She died from a headache. I don't know. You said I didn't hear that. I said you're giving me a headache. I don't know. I didn't hear that at all. Oh, you said that. I gave her a headache. Stay at start her brain cancer. Let's let's move on. Let's move on with this story. This I think I don't know. I'm not going to you don't work for this. No, no, no, no, no. That's that's a very insulting. You know, work for this format. Why? Format for you. You're not even let me go. I'm going to take away that annoying. But that was a lot of annoying people that are on. I love it. I love it. You're winning. We've had a lot of people on the right. We'll never have on because they can't handle this conversation. I love it. It's not you love it. Allow the format to go. But that's not the format. I don't know what he said. I didn't hear what he said. You're the you're the charge. You got to deal with that. What did he say? He said, my mother died of a brain. I had a house. I said, maybe you should solve cancer. What happens if I die from a terrorist attack? No, no, you're going to get in trouble. Sorry, but you're going to get in trouble. No, no. This is not good for you guys. It's not good for value tape. If that gets out, unless I misheard it, maybe you got out. We're a live show. You know, you're going to hear that. You don't have brain cancer. Cut it up and react to it. I don't want to. I don't want to be part of this world. I'm sorry about your money. Like I love it. And the rest of you guys are a short story. I'm going to get to the next story. Let's go to the next story. I don't really want to move on right now. You can go to the bathroom if you want for a while. Let me get the next story. No, you should fuck off. Next, next. Don't say that about my mom. Are you okay? You shouldn't say, make a joke about someone with brain cancer. You've been joking this entire podcast about someone's mother died. I said, how did your mom, Adam? Adam, you live, be civilized. Okay. What would you like me to do, buddy? I like you to be. I like you to be. What would you like me to do? I like you to be an adult and I like you to take accountability. Okay, I'm sorry. That's fucking fucked up, man. I can't, like, I can't believe like a human being. You didn't ask. No, you didn't ask. I asked how your mom died. Dude, you're going to get in trouble. Am I going to get in trouble from you? If you said, for who? I don't care. That is who out of that is. I'm being normal and nice. I'm not being. No, you're not. No, you're not. Okay, young man. What are we going to say is if I misunderstood you, I apologize. Okay. But if you said what I said, you did towards your mom. It seems like you're being antagonist. No, no, no, no, no. That is anti-social. Adam, Adam, do you know, do you know how is that died? How? How did your dad die? It was very tragic, but let's not go there. It's not, it's fun. I wouldn't make a joke about your mom, buddy. He wouldn't joke about that. That's how it happened. No, I'm moving on. Are you able to do this or you want to leave me? Yeah, triggered. Are you able to do this? Or are you want to leave? Because I want to have I've got eight more stories to go. I would okay, go do you want to do this or you want to move on? I'll leave on. Okay, so let's go to next story. Next one. I want to go to a shangelis. So shangelis does a sketch on snl, right? And he says, uh, can you go back to the story and then we'll play the clip. So it says, everyone has waited on the shangelis monologue controversy except snl. Go for it. So what did shangelis say that pissed everybody off? Go ahead. It was a fat guy, especially in New York. It's a nightmare, dude. Everyone's just the hottest gay guys you've ever seen. They're jacked and they look at me. They're like, yeah, right. I know, dude. Also, I haven't been to the gym in so long. I didn't know what women just dress like whores now? (audience laughs) Look, I'm sorry, there's no other way to describe. Have you seen it? I've seen it in the shorts. Have you seen the shorts? 'Cause neon, they're like, the only, they're like artificial bait colored. (audience laughs) The wrinkles go like around the cheeks and all combine at the butthole. (audience laughs) And don't look, you're not allowed to look. For real, don't look, 'cause they are filming. I'm in the background of like 10 TikToks right now. (audience laughs) Not all the equipment. I've been in the gym and so I did the equipment's change. It's all like kettlebells and rubber bands and ropes. I'm not doing kettlebells fat publicly. (audience laughs) Yeah, I'd rather die. Okay, so what's the issue here? What happened with this Adam? I'm gonna come through for her. He said what? For her. And so that's why people are pissed? Yeah, because of that. Cordero 7 and like this. Vinnie, what happened here? Well, he said the girls that are in the gym with those tight pants that you know, accentuate the buttocks and there's like a gym shark or some like all these girls pants is and I'm gonna be honest with you guys, you guys are good. I'm gonna take a complete different angle. I am disgusted, absolutely disgusted with Shane Gillis and I'm gonna say it out loud. How dare he say stupid stuff like that where these girls are just out there trying to be body positive, they're trying to work out. Like, kind of you show me in the gym. Guys, this is how, when I'm in the gym. (laughs) That's how, that's what I wear, you know why? I'm not a whore. I just feel more comfortable. The air conditioner is better in my gym. That's how I roll. And I'm telling you right now, this is how I work out and shame on him for trying to bring it up. But anyway, all jokes, that's actually a real picture, right? Buddy, let's, let's, yeah, that's not a real picture. But the future looks tight. Here's my thing, and Adam, I want to ask you guys real talk. These are the same people that are mad, can you show that video of what girls were doing, what he triggered? Like, go back girls are playing his video and look at how mad this girl is and then, yeah. Fast forward, it's like right when she goes up to the camera. Look at how mad, look at how mad she is and then go back to what she says, listen, listen to this. - The way that you just talk about women says more about you than it does me. I'm strong. I'm body confident and I shouldn't have to worry about being objective fighting the gym. - So what? - It's like, it did- - What I'm trying to find out is- - But she's the right person. - What is a big deal of- - Girls, what, because Pat, in this day and age, these girls are dressing very provocative in the gym. Let's just, could we just be honest, number one? Call them exhibitionists, whatever. I don't even think the right word was horror, 'cause what does horror mean that you're sleeping around with others? - You could just see their butts, 'cause they wear a tight pants. - Yeah, they're wearing very tight pants. - But, but, but, but, like, why does, like, the world- - Why does any of this matter- - It doesn't matter, but there's the thing. You know, I love SNL. They didn't comment, they were trying to act as Michael Shade that they avoided the question. It's a joke. And you know what the crazy thing about this is? If you don't like it, don't watch it. Nobody was shoving your face in front of a TV and go, watch Shane Gillis. Mind you, good for him. Do you guys remember when he was casted on the SNL? - Yeah. - No one happened. - He did a podcast making fun of Chinese people and they freaking kick them off. You know how, how- - But they brought him back. - They brought him back to a host and this is the second one. And it's absolutely insane. These are the same people that last week were talking crap about Sidney Sweeney. They're like, what a whore. She's doing a commercial. And now they're like, oh my God, these girls, don't call us whores. - What? - Shut up. Just shut up. - I don't want to laugh. - Where are you at? - Well, look, there's two things going on. There's Shane Gillis doing his comedy and there's the actual situation that's going on at gyms. Shane is all he's doing is commenting on what everybody has been talking about, what's going on at gyms for the last five years. You know, Dave Shapell once did a skit where he go, someone came up to a cop and he goes, excuse me, excuse me, Mr. Officer, I need your help. He goes, excuse me, why would you think that I'm a police officer? Just 'cause I'm wearing this outfit. Does not make me a police officer. He's like, he's like, just because you're wearing the outfit of a whore. Does not make you a whore. He goes, yeah, I get it. Well you do realize how confusing this is. These women are wearing redeculacy, skin tight, risque outfits. As if they don't know what they're doing. Ladies, you're not a victim. If you're showing your booty cheeks out in a gym and you're doing squats, what do you think the average guy's gonna do? We have eyes, we have eye sights, but what the women have a problem is, if it's a good-looking guy, you've seen this before, they're like, oh, he's hitting on me, that's nice. If it's a guy that they're not attracted to, they're gonna call sexual harassment. Ladies, you know exactly what you're doing with these outfits, and just, there's freedom of speech. You're not free to, you can freedom of ass. You're not free of consequences for wearing ridiculously tight clothes. Shane Gillis is completely innocent. So the girls are to blame. Median, what did the, I don't understand this take either. The girls are to blame. It's just a joke in a standup set. I'm with Shane Gillis. We've been, I don't know where Yoge is for years. And by the way, to be clear, I'm broke with and wearing whatever you want. So when you wear whatever you want, you're gonna get some looks and some comments. It's not like, oh my God, I don't see you half naked. I mean, what are we doing? There's just another like social, like, woke to you. Are you a male feminist? What does that mean? Exactly, I don't know, but all right. No, I think, this is a nothing burger. I think it's a nothing burger, and I think that people have hoisted comedians. Shane, I'll say this, Shane's my friend. Shane got me my first representation in the industry. Unprompted, I never asked him. He just texted me, he said, do you want agents? Like, he's a, what do you do? He's, people are actually defending Shane. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, like, you were yelling at each other about, should we buy defense technology with our tax dollars? That defend build it to prepare for it. Oh, what I'm saying is, this is a, that's an important conversation. This is like, who the hell cares? Part of me agrees. It's like, who, why is this? It's a, what, why is it not, it is a lot of noise. It's women, it's a benefit to them. No, it's not. I can't believe that you're objectifying me. Well, then don't wear those pants. No, it's other, four more of those clothes. It's other celebrities. No, men are not. So let me get both sides. So one side is, hey, if I want to wear these clothes and go to the gym and do it, you're free to do that. You're free to do that. Exactly. And then the guy is saying, but if you're dressing like this, I'm going to look, oh, what are you doing looking at me? Yeah. Is that count? And why do you think I'm exactly? I'm just saying generally. That's like a, can we go back to Vinnie's gorgeous outfit? You look fine. Please not. I actually get him a different kind of stuff. I ain't going to the bathroom. It's my style. Can I have those tissues? But you're going to look at that. But did you see the video? Let me get to the next one. All right. Let me get to the next story. What I'm going to look at is the debtors commercial. So here's Kimberly Gilfoil, who apparently a little weird guys on what's going on here. So she is speaking to this guy named Eric debtors, who a couple years ago, Deeter, whatever you want to call him, Eric Deeter, he comes out and he has receipts. And another $100,000 for consulting. And up to $1 million of if he can get, if she can get him on Tucker Carlson, he wanted to be on Tucker Carlson. If he was able to pull it off, you know, she was going to get apparently a million dollars. This is what he's claiming. Get access to Attorney General Pambandee and an arranger meeting with Iris Commissioner Billy Long. He wanted assistance addressing a 2020 tax deduction dispute that he has. Then get the DOJ to investigate Met Pro Group and then obtain broader publicity for Durani victims. And last but not least, literally, this is one of the things of any get his song lyrics to Kid Rock. And if he did that, she was going to get a million bucks. Well, she at the end in a text message asks him, can you give me $100,000 for me to pay off my American express balance? Then the story comes out with the new press secretary Katie, who is being asked about Kimberly Guilfoyle. And this is what she has to say. I don't know if you guys got the clip on the back or not. She says, you know, we appreciate her for her service. But we have decided to move on. Go for it. I have two questions for you. And first of all, on Kimberly Guilfoyle, the Daily Mail has been reporting on her since last year. The president said yesterday to reporters that he is considering firing her. Do you know what timeline for that? And also, potentially, who could be on the short list to replace her if he does? We have asked Ambassador Guilfoyle to resign. She has been a wonderful asset to the team and we wish her well. So that's that. And then the president was asked about it. I don't know if you have the president's clip about, you know, she was part of the family. I don't know if you got the clip in the back. I think you do. He was saying no. Nobody else to say. Go for it. We're not happy. We're not happy. Is this it? Or this is not it? I don't know. She wasn't a member of my family. I guess they did my son a long time ago, but she wasn't now. She was doing a good job, but we didn't like what we were reading. Okay. So now, this leads me to stories now coming out of her work. Now, of her releasing a burn book with dirt on the president's family, right, with all the stuff that came out, which by the way, you know, that's pretty valuable with all the information. There's a lot of people that hate the family that would love to have a story like this that comes out. [BLANK_AUDIO] Now, when you hear a story like this, how bad is this? How bad is the look? What do you think will happen next? - So first of all, there's one part in this that's very normal in typical and political circles. And that is, I don't know this guy, and I'm not criticizing him, but there are people that make donations and they're called lobbyists on one level. This is, hey, I need an audience with the president, we're gonna donate 500 to the re-election campaign. When this is over, we'd like an audience on, I wanna talk about X, not X to the social media. I wanna talk about legislation in my industry. I wanna talk about awareness for these topics that matter to my kind of company. So people do that, and there is a quid pro-chro in there for a future meeting. Maybe something's not gonna be signed, maybe something's gonna be done, but there's a quid pro-chro for meetings. Hey, Vinny, let me take you to dinner. I'd like you to introduce me to the owner of the comedy store. Right, this happens all the time. Well, you do that for me. And they buy you dinner or they, whatever. So all of that goes on. So it seems kind of normal that a person's gonna be approaching an insider and Kimberly Guilfoyle was an insider. Now, the part about song lyrics becomes kind of funny, but set that aside. So that first part doesn't seem terribly crazy to me. The part that is just odd is all of the stuff that's coming out. I got pictures of credit cards and pictures of guys junk, and I got this list. And all that. That's like, ugh, you don't want that to go out there. And by the way, there were stories out there that said, this was kind of why Trump centered agrees to be ambassador, to give her something meaningfully to do to see if she could perform in that function, and that be way over here there, and out of the spotlight and away from the American media. Now all this comes out like this, and now the burn book, you know. I looked at the advances. I went down a list of celebrity and political book, and advances over the last three years. Her rate card would be about two and a half to three and a half million dollars. When you look at all the, you know what I'm talking about? You go down a little. - Of course. - Look at all the advances that have been paid. Let's just look at the stock market for recent advances, paid on books. What are those numbers? She would get a two and a half. Well, she's not married to anybody. She had somebody that she said she wanted them to pay off her credit card bill. There's enough text that we can evaluate this. It appears credible. So, and you're not doing anything now. You're not married to anybody now. She's going to need to make a living or do something somehow. Stay in here. - So then this is what I, this is what I said about. - So that makes the book that- - I got a couple of things out of my answer. - I get that, but Tom, let me ask you. So these guys bought a house together in Jupiter, okay? Don and her. They bought a 9.6, 9.4 million auto house in Jupiter. I remember when that announcement was made four years ago, three years ago. So do you not think you're part of a family? President Trump is a very litigious guy before he became a president. Let her own when he became a president. He's been, he knows how to deal with lawyers. Don't you think if this family is known for having pre-nubs, when a relationship doesn't work out, they're gonna have a contract in place to say you better not speak. You don't think that exists. And if it does, can she still go around that and ask the, whatever the big publishing firm to say, if you're gonna help me cover for the legal fees, I'll give you some of the dirt. What, what role do you think that plays? - So if the burn book is just a rumor, we'll know shortly and I'll tell you how you can tell. If there's no press release from Simon and Schuster saying, we are proud to work with Kimberly Goefoil and we are gonna publish the book, my years with the Trumps are something, right? And talking all about that. If that never happens, then they get a phone call first from the Trump attorneys quietly that said, you know there's kind of a prenup here. They were engaged. We have a prenup here. We have non disparagement, non disclosure. You put that book out. I'm gonna take this. I'm gonna put a letter on top of it from some very, very powerful people and you're not gonna do it. So if you wanna pay for a warehouse full of books that you can't distribute, try me. And then the publisher goes, thanks for your call. They go, I don't know if we can do that. They're gonna sue her and they're gonna sue us and try to injunct us. So if there's no announcement and no book deal announced, then I would conclude, Tom would conclude, you know what, there's probably a document in there and somebody called the publisher and said, yeah, you don't wanna do this. - Yeah, so Adam, where are you at? - Well, do you know where the word burn book comes from? - Be a girl. - It comes from the movie Mean Girls. And there's gonna be some Mean Girls. Kimberly Gillfoil has, by the way, I'm not interested in reading the book, but if she did write a book, it'd be probably the most salacious, juiciest book you've ever read. Why? She was married to Gavin Newsom. - That's where this whole story starts. - Because of Fox News anchor, ends up dating slash engaged to Don Junior. Now she's in the Trump administration as the ambassador-- - She did it faster. Did you just agree? - She did it faster. - When I went to the White House, I've been there a few times. She was there. I'm like, oh, hey, she goes, hey, what's going on? - She's way out there. - Very out there type person. To me, there's one of two things gonna happen. She's either gonna find out. We're gonna find out if she actually loyal. She bout that life or she's just looking for a quick book. 'Cause she's loyal to the president. She'll say, wow, I've been in this orbit for over a decade. Let me stay loyal to my boss to the president of the United States. Or do I need a couple million bucks? We're gonna find out. I mean, I also think this last point, what the hell is she gonna say about Trump that we don't already know? - Grab him by the bus. This and that story, he's already the president. What's she gonna do to make people work? - We know everything. - Everything's already out there. - You think Trump's worried about that? I don't think he's worried about it. - Why'd she get a job then? - I don't think she is. - Don Junior, why'd she get a job? - Yeah. - She made me engage. - Why did she, why? - Why would she get a job though? - Why do you think? - It's your son's ex-girlfriend. If my dad hired my ex-girlfriend, I'd be like, what the hell is that? - Yeah, I agree with that. - Yeah. - He probably has something on him. - There's no lawyer. - You know, that's a good lawyer. - Here's what I would tell you. - And also, what does it ambassador do? - Yeah, so the position, this new role that they play, remember what the new 2024 strategy is versus what 2020 was. 2016 was. 2016, he fired people left and right. 2024, the strategy is, hey, just give him a job. Like Mike Waltz, Mike Waltz was the moment the signal message is going out in the meeting. What did he do? You're an ambassador. What job did he end up getting? Yeah, US ambassador to United Nations. So, ambassador. So, I think it's like a job you give to not have any noise for the administration. It's kind of like a duty ambassador to Greece. That's what it is. - Enjoy Greece. - I should get a map country. - I can see like a meeting like this taking place. - The cyclist. - I see meeting like this taking place. - She's got something. - Can you give me the lowest five jobs we can give here that is not a high decision making job. Ambassador to Greece offered to her. Hey, we have announced she's going to be there. I think that's the position you play. But if the question is, do you think she has things to reveal and talk about? I mean, what are you? - Well, you know who I think this is on. This is not on Trump. It's on one person. It's on Don Jr. He was engaged. That's like saying, hey, Pat, can you hire my ex? I think Adam made up a decent point here. Can you hire my ex? - It's so annoying. - Why would you ever advocate for something like that? It's only going to end foolish and stupid. We're going to see if she's actually a pro-Trump person at the end of the day. My guess is she's actually going to be smart enough to stay loyal to Trump. - But guys, as if everybody shouldn't have known, she married Gavin Newsom. - No, I'm being better here. - They look sexy. - Yeah, look at that. - They look sexy. That was bad. - They're both attractive people. - No, 100%. - You have to say it. - But it's Gavin Newsom, the guy that's sleeping with his best friend's wife and he's just a slime ball. - He's a pig. - But you know, and the ledger, what does America think of this? - Liberals look at this and they go, ew, he, with her, and then conservatives are like-- - It's not very very good. - No, it's a unifying picture 'cause it disgusts people on both sides of it. - Yeah. - But the question for you, like Pat, if you become a president, let's say they changed the constitution, you could run, Pat. - I'm listening. - Okay. - Do I get Brazil? (laughing) - Yeah. - I would give you-- - I would give you Catalyne Island. - I would give you Catalyne Island. - You're gonna stick me to this fucking part of it? - Go to one thing, you're of the wriggly founder of that. - No, no, I would eat, I would eat Benema. I would cart them all. - Yeah. - Your wife will not let you go to Brazil. - You better get to-- - The president was me too. The president-- - Get your accent together. - And they only got one ticket. - Let's go to next story. Next story is, one of the biggest races that everybody's following closely with Tallahuree compacts then all of a sudden, this guy that just made flying cars comes out and says, "I kind of want to give some money "to these guys. "Well, Elon, how much money do you want to give them?" I don't know, maybe not a dollar or two. How about if I spend a hundred and fifty-eight million-- - There's nothing to have done. - Dollar, it is not, but that's a lot of four rates. He donated a hundred and fifty million dollars to the Center for Public and Super PAC, contribution 75 million plus 83 million in September. Money was subsequently transferred to a PAC, supporting Ken Pax, then Musk also contributed 80 million to the American PAC during Q3. Total money in the last few months is 238 million dollars. - Space X. - There's one reason here. Where does Elon Musk live? - He lives in Texas. - So he dabbled in politics in 2024. We know that got ugly with Trump and Doge. But he's in Texas. - Can I ask you a question? I want to ask, have you seen Trump and Elon getting cozy again with each other? - Elon is actually showing respect by calling it SI, super intelligence, not even AI. - But what I'm saying to you are seeing that. And you know what they're starting to realize? What do you think they're starting to-- - We're better together than a party. - We need each other, buddy. - And FYI. - Just the two. - FYI, do you know how much money Elon just saved Trump that he needed to use for his PAC to get a-- Ken Pax, then. - Yeah. the most exciting candidate to be able to go against Taloriko, which the left. This is a Obama-esque type of a guy that they're excited about minus the scandal that the last 10 days he was missing, whatever the blue thing. - Oh, Taloriko is the way. - Without the way. - Without the kids. - Very time, God. - Where are you at with this? - Yeah, well, thank you. - I'm gonna ask you a question directly because that's a polite professional thing to do. - Five poses. - Dave, I wasn't talking to you. Why would you think I'm talking to you? - You're very polite, great guy. - So you're someone sane. I don't understand. - You're crazy. - You're crazy. - So, he saved Trump and the RNC, the national $100 million. - That's exactly it. - Because that's your answer. - That's your answer. - Now they can use that elsewhere. - Exactly, exactly. And you know who shared that with me, which was, I wanna, well, Brad par skill is who brought that up. And I said, what a great point of what is gonna happen here. So this is a saving for them of what's going on strategically for the RNC, add up. - Okay, I actually wrote this down because I thought you guys would like it. I had a guy on my show the other day, Big Hashat. But like, honestly, Chuck Laurie, he made two and a half men, Big Bang Theory, Sheldon. He's never missed, okay? He's on our notes. Through syndication, he did that speech against Trump. Yeah, but it was like, I asked him about it. I was like, what the hell are you talking about? But through syndication deals, massive syndication deals, he's worth over a billion, right? And so then I thought to myself, Elon Musk has 1,000 more, okay, let me run the numbers for you 'cause I prepared this. He's the first guy, he's the first show runner that four shows simultaneously top 20 ratings in the television history, okay? This guy's like, never had a bomb, okay? Billionaires make up a- - Great birthday. - Amazing. - Who's birthday? - Yours. - The break team. We're born on the same level. - Now you love this guy. It would be your dad. Okay, Elon Musk- - TVD, I just realized what date it is. - What's that? - It's your birthday. - Your birthday's coming up. - No, my birthday's on two days. - Yeah. - Let me know what you have. - 47 or two more days. - Out of we have plans, okay? - All right, guys. - Billionaires make up approximately- - You come up on the line. - 0.0000042% of the people on Earth, okay? - Billionaires are approximately 0.00000000001001. - It's only one guy. - That's it. - Well. - Allegedly put more somewhere. - Yes, baby. Okay, but yes, there's no more guy. That's like, okay, so imagine this. Chuck Laurie, he made two and a half men. He would have to make 25,000 men to have- (all laughing) - That's the funniest guy. - That's funny as hell. - Think about it. Think about how much money- So to him, $250 million, it's- - Yeah. - So what are you saying, though? - Space like the Tesla or the Texas? - No, no, but wait a minute, go deeper with that. Go deeper with that, because to me- - He's the most powerful man on Earth. - It is, and I said this two weeks ago, I said, when I started getting calls from different chiefs of staff, trying to get on the good side of Elon. Instead of Trump, I'm like, what are you talking about? You know, they would typically say the president of the United States is the most powerful man in the world. Not with the direction this is going. This guy's building a flywheel, Vinnie, and a moat that everybody needs him. This guy's got moats on top of moats right now. Elon Musk. - With him the thing or a bad thing. Just for a government to be weaker than it is. - Let me tell you, there is a- - I don't know. I say, no, listen, you do know. You're a pin, you have an opinion on that. - I do think I do. You think I was a secret communist. - No, no. I'm not a son, Peter. - But a point of it, a part of it is, we said this two weeks ago. If this guy's an evil man, holy shit he's going to have control the world. - If he is, okay. So there is that part where, you know, now Starlink is like, hey, some of your countries, I'll give it to you. Some of your countries, I don't give it to you. You're a pretty powerful guy right now. - Of course. - And hey, you know what, Verizon, AT&T and T-Mobile? Guess what? I'm going to come after you. Day one, 10% stock drops. 800 megahertz, you know, company is building. He bought for $8 billion. They're about to announce they've got to finish the paperwork up and he's going to go after the telephone service business. This is a very, very powerful guy. So now the Democrats are going to sit there and the Republicans are going to sit there and they have to realize, who do future presidents report to? Who do future world leaders need? - Elon Musk. - Elon Musk. This is a very, very real thing. So guess what'd be a good time? If there's ever been a time where I've said, and the percentage is less than 5% time, but if there's ever been a time where the left will want to take money out of politics, it's today. - Of course. - They've never wanted to, they were not open to it. But if there's ever been a time where people on the left are going to be like, I think we need to take all this political business money, the industry of politics, money out now, I think could be some time. Why are the lobbyists everybody? There's one guy you've got to go up against and he's got more money than you. Collectively. He's got more money than you. - Should be able to buy politicians, right? - I'm with the democracy. I fully believe that. I'm fully with that. I should have never happened in the first place. - That should have never happened in the first place. - It's us. - Should have never happened in the first place. - Let me just make a quick point on the Senate. Let me tell you, you know who I'm going to call out right now? Ken Paxden. - If you can't win in Texas against James Tallahfrico with a newfound look what I got, a hundred million dollars from Elon. - 150 million. - Then maybe you shouldn't be the candidate guy. - Well, what does that say about the party people? - Everything is working for you and not against you. If you can't beat Tallahfrico after he takes two weeks off with the flu and he's going woke and weird in Texas using mittens to eat beef, then maybe you're not the guy. - I hope you win, sir. - But if you don't, you can only blame yourself. - But this is a bigger problem, I think, than that. Besides the 150 million dollars, this guy thought just Trump's endorsement is going to make you win. Look at what's happening in Texas. I showed him before the show, the big Super City Muslim Senate. Are we talking about Texas? Hold on, no, no, no, hold on. This is a bigger issue. What the hell is happening with Texas? Like, I'm not talking bashing Texas. They're not stupid people. That Tallahfrico is on camera multiple times. This whole town hall was a complete contradiction of every single policy in Stance he's had. Can you play the, can you play the, the Save Act one? Well, this guy has been against the Save Act forever. - What's that? - The Save Act is for, in a municipal. Show your ID to vote in the United States, bro. And if people like Chris Cuomo that was on the podcast, I was like, no, I don't think you, you shouldn't need. It's like, what are you talking about? And he's like, pro Tallahreque as if he's cool with the transgender stance, the no ID stance, the open borders. - What is the, what does the Kalshi Tallahreque look like right now? Can we see this? - He's up there. - If you guys can go back to one week, go to one week, please. - Yeah. - Okay, he's coming down a little bit. - It's a little bit. - That's the one week. - Go to a month, go to a month. - Yeah. - So you can see, it's spread. - Who do you want? - I'm looking good for Pax, it's bad. - It's already a million in there by the way. - That's Elon's money. - What? - But wait a minute, Elon's money just hit, right? - Why are they getting his show, whatever, what's that? - By the way, I guys, can you do me if ever pull up the Kalshi of Pierre Polierve against Karnie? Karnie. - Oh, like that. - It can happen. - Yeah, if you can pull up the, Pierre Polierve, you'll see the point I'm trying to make. If you pull up the Pierre, that's a tough one too. - Just try to find it here in a minute while I'm going through it. - Pierre Polierve. - There was a clip of Tala Rico being asked the question by this Catholic lady. Do you have that one? - Oh yes, so so. - Can you find that one clip and then go back and find out. - Okay, because he says, and I'll set it up here. He claims that the Bible is silent in a Bible, a silent on abortion and look at what this lady does. - With Christians and the Bible is silent on the issue of abortion. It means you and I both have to look at different scriptures to try to come to a conclusion. And I just want to add that the Bible is not silent on abortion. There is the Tinkamammas, that should not kill. And as Catholics, we take great insults. I guess sometimes it was just out of that way. But I also want-- - By the way, you see that this says CNN and Jubilee. Go back to the first five seconds. Go back to the first five seconds if you can. - This is the change mine. - So if you look, pause the moment it says change my mind. Pause, pause, pause right there. Pause right there. All the way at the top, that says change my mind. Stephen Crowder is suing CNN and Jubilee because he's had the pattern on change my mind since 2017. And that's going to be a real lawsuit. You can't do that. Jubilee knows that CNN knows that, even though they do a good job, go forward. - Announce, we're silly. - Maybe Jubilee has generated all of their profit off of a completely unoriginal idea, disguised it, and then the mask came off. Or maybe CNN suggested, well, you know what? Change my mind has more brand familiarity because billions of people have seen the meme in the video. So we don't know. We need to find out who's flagrantly disregarded, right? The trademark, who flagrantly plagiarized, who profited off of it most, and for what degree of time. So, those we can pause right there. So whether he's going to go or not, he has a right to because they have the name. I will tell you this. I love what Jubilee does. I hope they continue to do what they do, but you got to be careful with the name you're using because that's out there. So that's stuff that-- - I think he has the most valid case ever. He has the-- - I know he does. - Yeah. - Of course he does, of course he does. But even with that, You're seeing what's going on where a CNN is going to a YouTube channel. Hey, Jubilee, we kind of have this idea. Can you come and have, why don't we do the idea what we done with Jubilee? I love that. That's taken place. And let's just see if it's Crowder's out of you as well. Like we're trying to. It's great. Have you done it yet or not? I was going to go do it. I was going to do it, but then they, it was Charlie Kirk happened to, they, oh, you got to do it. They pivoted. They pivoted like you would do very well. But I did. No, but, no, actually, this is the only time I've ever, like, sincerely, like been like, so like, what were you going to go on? But like, I was, I told them that I thought that body building culture leads to toxic masculinity. And I wanted it to be 20. Love, you guys against one whip, and you were the jack girl, which one would you? Girls don't really care. They, I think, I think fashion muscles are gay, I don't really, but they're just, like, roiding out. I mean, it would have been hilarious. I would have been hilarious. But then the Charlie Kirk thing happened to, I think they wanted to be more serious. But to the, to the point of, of who Telluriko is, and I hope, listen, the 150 million, I hope it hits and I hope it works. But just go off of what he said, God being non-binary, which he taught, he said, yeah, I said that I was, yeah, he said that, that you have that clip where he goes, I was just being provocative. I think he is done by, watch it, watch this, watch this. He's about, about God not being defined by gender. When I said that I was being provocative, and I want to admit that and come clean about that. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no I do. I do. He wants to be. No, no, here's my thing. Here's my thing. This is just transgender medical procedures. He voted against Texas SB 14, which restricted puberty blockers, cross-sex hormones and certain procedures for minors voting against it. Number one, number two, said that there were six biological sexes in 2001. Yeah. That's clip. Okay. That's, that's, oh, he's batting two for two. Save America. He said, I, he said it's, it's hurting, he said it's racist to ask black people. You have that clip, a Connor, it's racist. He was interviewing a, a black gentleman was interviewing him. He says it is this, not, not this one, the, the one of the actual individual. This is where he, he backtracks, but he was speaking to a guy and he goes, it's racist to our black neighbors, basically saying black people are too stupid to show IDs. That's, so that's three for three. And then he's cool for transgender athletes, boys competing with girls. But when the list goes on and on, I just don't understand. Yeah, this is it right here. This is the Savak. We as human beings have the right to shape our own destinies. And we do that through the vote. And so many brave Americans, so many brave black Americans have fought and died for that right. And so for politicians in Austin or in Washington, as they're now doing with the Savak, they are trying to rob our neighbors, particularly our black neighbors of those guy. Because black, you know, that's, that's right. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. That means black people are too stupid. That's what, listen, he said that there's probably a percentage of black people in the voting. Well, there's white people that, there's people that are, and he got an Alabama back in the back woods that don't even have a driver's license. There's probably some advantage that, that Adam serves Democrats. Adam, I'm going to give you your moment, the shot. You think I'm debating about it. I'm actually asking you a question about it. Yeah. Here's a question they asked Hillary. Yeah, who's your favorite drag queen? Who's your drag queen RuPaul? She's the most famous one. Okay. Other than her. I don't really know anything about drag. That's the point. So what he has a favorite? He goes, oh, my favorite drag queen, probably Alyssa Edwards. Who cares? How do you know names of drag queen? You guys are, I really don't care about any of this. But that's my point. You need a better one. The name, you need a better one on this guy. That's the whole job in Texas. And he did good on Rogan. That's why he is. He did well on Rogan. Well, he's a great guy. That's why he's, that's why he's leading. If you're trying to say that he wants to give all the kids a transition. There's two things. There's two things. There is marketability, super marketable. Is he? I think the left is using him. He's a star. He's everywhere. He's Christian. And he's a progressive, but gay Christian, but allegedly, but for somebody on the left to use, give me a bigger superstar than this guy on the left. Abdul Al-Sahit. What is he doing? He's dealing with, he's dealing with, well, no, but he's dealing with, no, no, he's dealing with the Muslim brotherhood ties with his brother and law and all this. It's just a father's ass. He's brother. Oh, you haven't seen the tweets of what they said on October 7th. And this guy's full on tie to the Muslim brotherhood. How do you want to hear this clip? Oh, you haven't seen? I was out. Oh, don't, don't, don't, don't live in a Brooklyn bubble, buddy. That's, stay on tolerico. It's like, it's a Brooklyn bubble over here. Bubble boy. So here's the thing with tolerico, the part with tolerico is, tolerico would have been a superstar in California, a superstar in New York, a superstar in Illinois, a superstar in Michigan. He'd be a superstar in ultra blue state, ultra blue state. But I will tell you, if tolerico wins in Texas, it's a massive, massive statement. Oh, yeah, that the left can beat the right in Texas, we can beat them anywhere. So this is the part where if I'm a Democrat campaign guy and say I'm one of the behind the scenes power player, like a Soros, not necessarily the guys you see all the time, the behind the scenes type of guys. If I'm one of those guys, and I'm looking, you know what it's like? Milwaukee beats the Dodgers. They sweep up. You know what's one? The player said in the interview. You know what, one, the guy said in the interview, he said health insurance. He says, he said the fact that I watched the Dodgers sweep Milwaukee last year or something like that. Yes. He says when I saw the way that Dodgers celebrated after they beat us, I never forget that. You know what it was? They beat them like, yeah, you guys are no bodies. We're stead dominant and they walked up. Oh my God, you know, like the typical Jubilee that excitement, they got none of it. He says I could never take that away from my mind on how they celebrated when they beat us. There was no enthusiasm as if we're no bodies. We couldn't wait to paraphrase and kill them. That's me saying kill them. He didn't say kill them, but you know what I'm saying? So what's the point? Yeah. If I'm a Democrat, power player, dude, you, you beat Pakistan, Texas with Elon money and Trump, Adam, that is cover of New York Times type of shit to come out and say, we got your best state with all the money of Elon and your Trump and MAGA. What do you have to say about that now? So to me, I would not be surprised if some of these guys, the power player guys like Soros and those guys are like, oh, really? Okay, let's put up a hundred million dollars to help out Taloriko. Our most lectures, just the economy being good or bad. It is, but this is Texas. Yeah, so this is tech. This is very low favor. This is kind of like, this is like, he'll be winning in California. Yeah, things are expensive right now. You've got to give the Democrats credit for one thing. You know, you know, you can say, you know, you can't teach an old dog new tricks. Yeah. The Republicans are running old dogs. And the Democrats are basically running these young little tricks. No, you're right. The Mamdani's the world. I'll say heads of the world that, though, the world, whereas the Republicans are running these old conservatives or 60+ Susan Pattas in Maine. You're correct on one better. Get better, Canada. You're correct on a couple of things. But one thing that you're very correct on that stands out is how this is going to be used as a victory flag for the rest of what they're doing. There are really four things that are coming into Taloriko Paxton race right now. Number one, you said they ran old dude. The enthusiasm for Paxton and Canada sucked even during the primaries, where it was Republicans and Republicans. There was no enthusiasm. There was no intrigue. There was no battle cry. There was no real, real something, some bright light, some torches going to carry. Number one, number two, the economy and the issues that you pointed out. Do you know what the intensity difference is for the American voter, specifically in the Midwest right now, between affordability and economy versus trends, abortion, everything else, even the Iraq war. It's 2x. In other words, when somebody says the economy is my number one issue, it's 2x, anything that's even close. So you could say Vinny correctly. He said this about trends. He said this about God. You're correct. He said all those things and there are voters that are annoyed by those things that are with Paxton. But Paxton's not enthusiastic. The intensity on the economy is 2x. So the third thing is that the list doesn't stick to him personally as much as it does to the policies. He said this, he said this, this. He's not like a criminal or a flanderer or a rapist or something that you just want to train the kids. And then the last thing, the last thing, and this is something that we need to help educate the American people about. You ready for this? How important is a senator versus a governor to the average American voter? Five to one. Are you kidding me? Not even close. The governor, they think the governor is like five to one important because he's our guy here. Texas, they go over five years to work. It's all correct. But you see the point. So when they're looking at, Hey, Telegrico could end up being our senator. They're not thinking about the Senate. They're not thinking of Supreme Court Justice right, you know, getting confirmed. They're not thinking about the things the Senate does. They're more worried about, well, we need our governor, just like Florida needs to Santa's Senator. The average American doesn't get as revved up. It's 5x more intensity for the governor. Put all that together, and you know what the left is gonna get a victory flag? I know it's a fake flag. Pat knows it's a fake flag. You know it's a fake flag, but they're gonna wave it, and it's gonna look like a very real flag. - Yeah, there's definitely a lot of flag. - 'Cause everything that complies together is big. - I got a question for you. I got a question for you. - The economy's bad, so it was a real flag. - Yeah. - Do you think, who put Tyler Rico on the map? - Rogan. - Okay. - Joe Rogan. - Who's cross-friends with him that lives in the same city he lives in? - Elon Musk. - Do you think Elon's called and said, "What are you doing?" - Yeah, maybe. - Who knows? - I think I hear what you're saying, but I don't know. - I hope so. - Who knows? - I think Tyler Rico was already on the map. That's how he got on the Rogan. - No, no, no, no, no. - Meaning Rogan amplified what he was already doing, but if he was a nobody, he wouldn't have been on the Rogan. - Great thing about Rogan is he'll talk to anybody. - Yeah, but we had already been hearing about Tyler Rico before he got on the Rogan. I was like, "Okay, I'm not at that level." There's a big difference between-- - What's the thing that's part, 'cause he's Christian, right? He's like a traditional Christian, but he's progressive. That's his, that's his friend, right? - So the point here is-- - It's the leftist. - The point here is for the people in Texas, who see this as a threat. This is one of those things where it's a, if you have to compare all the races that we have going on, which one do you put at the top? Election night. - This one, it's Texas. - I think this is the highest one out of all of them, yeah. And by the way, for those of you guys that'll be joining us November 3rd on Election Night, on Monday, I'm gonna tell you who the panels are gonna be. Those of you guys that are members, you're gonna get a chance to meet the panelists. It's gonna be a ridiculous night. And on Monday, this Monday, we're gonna make a very unique announcement of what else is gonna happen. Of what other places you're gonna be able to watch PPD podcasts on Election Night. It's gonna be bonkers. If you're not a member yet, go to boardroomcigarlounge.com, become a member, put the link below, go to boardroomcigarlounge.com. It'll only be members on that night. Everybody will need to go through the process before he can be there because it's gonna be security cops. You'll see the whole thing what we're doing. It's gonna be sick. I'm gonna show you some of that stuff on Monday as well. But let's go to the next story. White House Press Secretary, okay? White House Press Secretary. Katie Zachariah. I don't wanna spend a lot of time on this, but I'm gonna spend a few minutes on this. She comes out and she does her day one. A lot of people said it wasn't the best day one. Now, it's kinda hard to follow up on Caroline Levitts. She was, it's not easy because she did such a good job, but she came up, she did her day one. She got some criticism on the fact that she wasn't fully there when she was given some of the answers. She broke the story on what's gonna happen with Kimberly Guilfoyle. And then stories came up about attorney, whether you're a lawyer or an attorney. And in one exchange, when Trump is there, I don't know if you have this clip, they ask Trump about Katie, whether she's a lawyer or an attorney. Trump just turns around and says, what are you? And then she answers it. If you wanna play this clip, go for it. I need audio. What is it? What? Did she say China? That's no good. Look at the president. No, no, no, no, no. Go back seven seconds. Look what Trump is doing. Okay, go a little bit more, a little bit more, a little bit more before he turns around. Okay, watch what he does. He turns to her. Okay, where he's saying, you gotta explain for yourself. Wait for this. He's looking at her because he's like, he's hoping the team probably filtered it out. Okay, but right there, you know what, look that is on the president? That's a skeptical look. And then on top of that, forget everybody attacking her, that's their job. They're supposed to attack the press secretary. It's not an easy job, I congratulated her, but it's a tough job to have. This is not a job you want to, you know, you go up, you're gonna be an easy time. She's married, she's got four kids, all this young kids got, well, she's married with four kids and her husband's, I think in California, taking care of the kids. And so the deal was, if you're a lawyer, you're a JD, you're not necessarily a person that passed a bar exam. Attorney passed a bar exam. Yesterday, Hannity grilled her on Fox. I don't have the clip to show it. I think it's like seven, eight minutes or we're not gonna show the whole thing. But on Hannity, he's like, well, what about this and what about that and what about this? And she was confronted. Now they're dealt with her. That's the point. If it goes from here to Hannity and Hannity is a friend, I mean, this is kind of like, hey, maybe this is Anthony Scaremucci 2.0. We gotta move on it. Spicy, rear spicy. Yeah, maybe this is like Anthony Scaremucci 2.0. How long is this clip there you have? I just wanna show a snippet of it. I don't wanna show the whole, okay, play the clip. Go for it. I only three questions in 14 minutes. And what might you do a little differently going forward? I can give you some unsolicited advice that's never gonna be a friendly room to you. Yeah, so what I would say is I would absolutely. This isn't a clip. This isn't a clip. And one of the clips, he says, why would you do that? Why did you do this? Why did you call yourself this? And then there's a couple tweets that you retweeted that claim that as if your attorney people know this because you're not an attorney. And so, Hannity was pushing her. And it's not like it was a game. And the question now becomes, Tom, what do you think happens next? Do you think she makes it past Scaremucci or do you think it happens before? I have my own opinions. I wanna hear yours. First of all, I think she handled this really poorly. You're going into a new job. There has to be clarity. You gotta know that everyone's gonna ask every question. And her first answer, oh, it was in China. Her second answer, which I saw this morning, was that no, I did not pass the bar. And she says she's sticking to what Pat quoted there is a correct definition that when you say lawyer, you don't always mean, by the way, and the key thing is always, you don't always mean pass the bar exam. If you say attorney, attorney at law, you pass the bar exam under the guidance and with your law license now, under the shingle of a law firm, a license law firm. And so she came out and said, I did not pass it. But the use of the word lawyer and attorney now having to split it, Pat, that's a bad look. You're trying to split, oh, lawyer means maybe I did. Maybe I didn't. Maybe I was just giving informal legal opinion from my position as having a lot of gray. You know, that's to me, this was handled really bad. I'm to talk to the press and you put the president in a bad spot. Who's my question for you? Who's your son? You know, the vetting, who you think the vetting team knew? Do you think the vetting team? Do you think she told the vet house? Do you think, no, but do you think the vetting team was told, I did pass my bar exam? If she took, by the way, if you told the vetting team, they're done. Now, you pass the bar exam. You're like, oh, bro, we just did an interview with the guy who months ago, who claimed he went to a very prestigious school and joined the background check process. We went and called the school and he never went to the school. And then we asked him, I have my degree. I'll show it to you guys. It's in storage. It's a show to us on Tuesday. When's it, when's it Thursday Friday? Now, he never went to the school he put on the resume. We're not gonna hire you, yeah. So to me, one, how to help the vetting team not know, two. If you like to the vetting team, you're done. They're firing you in no time. Three, I don't think they fire her that quickly, because I don't think Trump wants anybody but scary moochie be the shortest ever to have the time of the internet. He's already beat scary moochie. But I'm trying to tell you, Trump intentionally wants to keep scary moochie as the goat of that. Of course. They have a very strong beef with each other. And you know, we've had scary moochie on. He's a very smart guy, he's a himself, capable guy. Probably more capable of her than, but that's a whole, that's a person. That's not even a comparison. But all I'm saying is intentionally, I think it's going to be like, how many days? Just make sure he stays as the goat. I think Trump is the vengeance that we got. I agree with that. That's very Trump. That is Adam. Remember that you know who this is on? Who? It's on the vetting process and the vetting team. It's not like they had two weeks. She stepped down like three months ago. If it's three months to basically flesh this out and figure out, all right, who do we want representing? But if you look at everyone that he's hired to be the press secretary, it's all blonde, attractive women. Sarah Huckabee sent as well as it. I'm saying since he gets distracted. Since Katie McEnany, Caitlin McEnany, he's realizing, I want some attractive women up there. Sean Spicer Huckabee think another attractive blonde. But Sean, well that's a good business move. It's like, when you want to get people bad news, have it be a beautiful blonde girl. It's certainly easier for the public to swallow it. Yeah, but I mean, there's not that any good funny credit, though. Respect Caroline Levitt was the girl. She was incredible. If one of you is half of it, in her 20s, then she'll be six. But Caroline Levitt respect you. Yeah, but like, he's the CEO of the White House. Like the buck stops with him. It's embarrassing. You're right. I don't, I'm just really embarrassing to him. I don't just, yeah. And like, at this lady sucks, you saw her on Hannity. You saw her on Hannity. She sucks at talking to the media. So how did she get this job? FYI, let me tell you, you know if I'm Trump, me tell you what, let me tell you what would happen. Tommy, you know this. If I have a guy like Tom, whom he knows what I like and what I don't like, I'll empower him to make the decision. Right now, I say, Tom, however you think is going to be the good, whatever we need for this position, he does. He's got a lot on the plate. I can tell you. Yeah. This was not a decision that Trump went very deep in and did his due diligence on this. He entrusted somebody and I can guarantee you, I can guarantee you, there was one very painful, horrible call for somebody that took place. You do not f up like this with press secretary. You do not do something like this and so, look, I mean, you know how the new cycle is? One day, everybody moved on, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, look at the Dodgers, look at this one. But in reality, someone's going to get that phone call. How does he do it? How does he do it? You're funny. How does he do it? We need a lady. You guys are. You got it before it. No, how does he read some of the right act? How does he bring somebody? What on what? Oh, he doesn't hesitate. He calls. He's a phone call guy. He calls immediately and say, hey, you're done. You're done. What are you doing? Yeah. What do we do to get this ridden? What do we miss here on the vetting process? What do we do? That's not going to be bad. This is the same week to call you want to see. Yeah. That's the call you want to see. And he's going to show about it. Pat, this is my speculation. Okay. But don't you think that he personally selected this person? No. If you're going to be the person representing me, he doesn't make him look good. No, I don't really. No way. Okay. I don't think so. I'm telling you, I don't think so. I don't think he selected it. You know, Levitt is kind of like, let's say, never, ever, ever follow up a Levitt. Never. You know, you know, I actually, three, you know what I think happened. Harold, Harold, minor, let me tell you what you just maybe think about. Let me tell you what I think happened. Here's what I think happened. I think there were three more qualified people that got the call who were way more qualified than Katie to get the call, but they all turned it down. They said, I don't want to follow that. They don't want to follow that. It's like following the best comedian. I don't want to go to that. I guarantee you that took place. It's like following Vinnie when he heard I guarantee you that took place. Unbelievable. I guarantee you that took place and the other people are like, you think they turned down the job 100%. Really? Trouble. Trouble rules like that. I don't think you'd turn a job like. Yes, you do. No, no, no, no. Listen, you kidding me. How do you tell you? Health. Mom. Yeah. Can be out. It's one of those. But he likes, like, for Vice President, he picked a big position though. It doesn't matter. You're not going to take it after Levitt. I'm going to take the job after Levitt. So if we want to do one last story, I'm going to give you guys the options on the story because we got eight minutes and then we got to wrap up. I got the Billy Crystal story. I got the Metallica story. I got the, let me see here. I got the, the Billy Crystal story, the Ford Hood shooter. I got the Ford Hood shooter story, where I got the 60 minutes outlet being down 41%. I like the Billy Crystal God. Go to the Billy Crystal story. And then we got to wrap up with Dennis. Yeah. I think that. Let's just wrap up with Dennis. Well, that's. You said you had some thoughts. All right, let me go to this. He reveals personal strategy shattered his faith in God. This is Billy Crystal, which the man from analyzed this and a bunch of different things that he did. He has been such a great actor, you know, when Harry met Sally, Billy Crystal admitted that a series of things. I'll have what she's having. Billy Crystal admitted that a series guy. You got to let me read this. Sorry. Billy Crystal admitted that a series of personal tragedies have shaken his faith. The comedian opened up with devastation of losing his home, a lifetime of memories and the palisades wildfires, as well as the profound grief he endured with the death of a close friend Rob Reiner, which we all remember when that happened on October 11th with CBS Morning when asked whether he still has conversations with God. A topic he had previously referenced. This is what he has to say. Go for it. Still, he says the body blows of 2025 have changed his outlook of it. In 700 Sundays, you had conversations with God. Have you been talking to God over these past coming weeks? No, because I don't trust him. Are you serious? Yes. Too many bad things have happened. The earth is in bad shape. It's just a weird, scary time. So no, not anymore. Tom, I think what's sad there is this is exactly the time you should trust God. The question on earth isn't whether bad things happen to good people or decent people or neutral people. The puzzle of earth is when good things happen to bad people. As long as you're on earth, this is a broken place. This is why all the world religions are trying to find a way out. And Christianity, Jesus Christ, is that way out. From a broken earth and to find yourself, it actually hurts my soul because I enjoy his work. I enjoy what I've seen of him. I remember growing up and one of his early series was this thing called soap, where he portrayed a young little brother in this thing. And that's where I first came encountered with the genius of Billy Crystal and his acting. And I remember that so clearly. And it's just sad to see him saying, I don't trust God. It's not about trusting God. It's about knowing God and just trusting that he's always going to be there and he's there for you even when bad things happen. It makes me sad to see the asus perspective. I would hope that there's somebody close to him to put an arm around him and say, Billy, this is the time when you do trust God. You know, it's tough about listening to this and Billy, a lot of times we have a relationship with these actors. Like you'll go to a certain place when you think about these actors, especially Billy Crystal being one of the ones where we watch many times. Did you know this time? You know, when he said that was the first thing I thought about, who's watching out of eight and a half billion people in the world, who's watching and say that on the interview? You know who? The important six people that are watching this, his two daughters and his four grandkids. Do you know how long Billy Crystal's been married? You ready for fun fact? Would you call him an a-lister? I think he's an a-lister. Yeah. Yeah. Billy Crystal's been married for 56 years. Good for you, Billy. 56 flipping years you've been married. Do you know how hard that is to be in Hollywood famous, funny like you and you're married for 56 years, like a Paul Newman. It's the Paul Newman record. That's the Paul Newman. You still married for that long. But to me, you got to be very careful, yesterday we were with Dennis Prager and he's given his first public appearance since the accident that happened November 12 where he fell down and he became a quadriplegic right after the incident that took place to him, right? And yesterday he comes up in the, do you have the picture to send them a video of this, this is when he just got on stage. Yeah. This is how we got on stage yesterday. It's a small little meeting. It's not a lot of people. A 200, 300 people. That's him. And his beautiful wife, Sue. Yeah. You can pause her right there. Okay. So, he's on stage and he starts talking 30 minutes turns into almost an hour and a half. Afterwards we had a conversation together because Dennis Prager, to me, you know, there's certain people you call great. I remember the first time I met Dennis Prager when I did a saving America show with KKLA KRLAs, what it was called in 2009, 2010 and Bob Hastings and Richard Kennedy are like, "Here's Dennis Prager. You got to meet him." And Dennis Prager had a debate. He did once with a guy named Frank Pastore. The late Frank Pastore who passed away was a Cincinnati Reds pitcher and they had this conversation together. But he said a few things. He says, "You know, you guys feel bad for me." He says, "But you know the moment I became a quadriplegic, you know what I realized?" He says, "I realized there was another guy out there named Charles Crowdhammer." Yeah. And he says, "Charles Crowdhammer, we watch him on TV and we had no idea who he was. And we had no idea that any health issues, but he was a quadriplegic. And he says, "And you know the difference between me and if you just go to his images, if you can go back and go to his images?" He says, "You know the difference between me and Charles Crowdhammer?" Right there. Top right. Just type that picture on the top right. Nobody would know. He says, "I became a quadriplegic at 75." He said, "He became a quadriplegic at 20 years old." After becoming a quadriplegic at 20 years old, his career takes off and never uses it as an excuse. He says, "There's a few things I got to tell you in the meeting, by the way. Two people's phones went off. I'm proud to say the first person's phone that went off was Tom Ellsworth when the middle of the meeting. He loves just having the phone go off. It was a monumental moment." He wasn't as bad as the second one. When he was speaking. It wasn't as bad as the second one. But it was still the first. Tom set the tone for the second one. Yeah. Tom was the inspiration. He says, "You know I watch a lot of YouTube videos nowadays." And he says, "You know what's the most thing I'm envious about?" He says, "People who have hands to be able to touch the people that you love and just use your hands." He says, "I don't have that." He says, "When this happened to be had three choices, death, depression or perseverance," he says, "I chose perseverance." He says, "You know why?" He says, "Because I, his words, I don't want to die. I love life. I don't want to leave my loved ones." For many years, he says, "I studied unjust suffering," which kind of goes back to what Billy Christo was talking about. And I wrote most of my conclusions on unjust suffering. Thirty years ago on a book called Happiness, right? That he wrote about. And he says, "I've always been more interested in what God wants from me, not what I want from God." And he says, "The key to happiness, the mother of happiness is gratitude." He says, "I'm always happy because I'm always grateful for the life that I've given, even now." He says, "I believe that suffering is real. I never asked myself why me since my accident." You know what he said? Instead of asking why me, I constantly asked myself prior to the accident, why me, but he says, "Guess why I said why me? God, why am I so lucky to have this life? Why am I so lucky to have this life?" And he continues, "Expectations eliminate the most basic thing to happiness. The secret to happiness is gratitude. All grateful people are happy people and all unhappy people are ungrateful." What an interesting thing to say. Optimism, he goes into talking about optimism. He says, "You cannot be happy." Look at the words on what he says here. This was my favorite part of the whole thing. You cannot be happy if your primary identity is a victim. If you view yourself as a victim, you cannot be happy. But you know what he said in that sentence, Vinnie, let me read this one more time. Just please listen to this folks. This is the most powerful part. He says, you cannot be happy. If your primary identity is a victim, then he says, even if you are a victim, you cannot do that. What a powerful thing. He says, my identity. He says, my identity is zenith. I'm not a victim of all things I asked for when I was conscious was ice coffee. He says, the moment I became conscious, I'm like, can I get some ice coffee? And so his son had three different drinks in the back. He kept giving them sips to drink water, ice coffee. Patrick, what's happening? You conservative. This is a Hollywood millionaire, elite Billy Crystal, complaining about a batch of getting burned down. And now you're feeling bad for him. Well, screw him. He, so many people around the world have it so much worse than him. And he's, you're right. You're right. And by the way, why isn't even the news if Billy Crystal believes that God or part of it is a part of it is his environment. So let me wrap it up with this. And then I'll come to a couple of you guys and we'll wrap up. He said, I would give anything to wheel myself around. He can't even do that because it's neck down. I've spent most of the last two years to breathe without a ventilator and to regain my normal voice. And he finally got it back. He says, I lost 80% of my income while my expenses have skyrocketed last two last two years. And despite all of that, I refused to call myself a victim. On virtually any Sunday morning, Sue would be downstairs, except for this morning she was upstairs. If she wasn't upstairs, she saw him fall. If she didn't see me fall, I would be dead right now. And the only reason is because I wanted to try my new razor that I bought because I'm too impatient to use a new toy that I bought. That's it. He says it was impatience of me wanting to use a new razor. And the last thing he says, Vinnie, this is so powerful. He says, you know what's the one thing that we have as human beings? He says, all we have is memories. Memories is everything to humans. You lose your memories. You're gone. No gratitude, no happiness, no memory, no gratitude. And last but not least, the pandemic of adult children was those who don't speak to their parents. As I said this message. So for me with Billy Crystal, dude, you've been married 56 years. You got two kids. You got four grandkids. You're one of the most decorated actors of all time. Sell the next generation some gratitude. Instead of this victim, give me a flip in right. He could still see. He could. He could. He could. He has his vision. He could walk. He could talk. You're going to sit by the way. He's still crazy rich. Also, it's just this Hollywood ego that we have to even know about his belief in God. I haven't poured because the fires got like when's the last time and good point because when's the last time you even heard the name Billy Crystal? Be honest. I don't. He slickers. He has been. He has been. But he's cemented in. Absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely. But the thing God's sitting there looking at Billy Crystal going. I'm going to ruin your home. Keep it short. Two minute. I got to wrap up. Well, I'll just say this. There wasn't a dry eye in the room yesterday. He was the fact that this guy, you know, came on stage, quadriplegic showed up and gave not only a wise monumental type speech, but also with humor. The guy's the epitome of a mens. Here's my prediction. He's going to be the most powerful speaker in America for the rest of his years because he has the the the the know how and also the the the wisdom to basically move America. But you know what he said because there was a common theme there. The left is running America. He used at one point. The leftists are unhappy because they're ungrateful low lives. That's what he said. Yeah, he did. Ungrateful low lives. Yeah. And then speaking of God, Billy Crystal would be very well served to have one conversation with Dennis Prager. I guarantee you because I went through my atheist phase right there and it's just not a good life. He said, don't feel sorry for me. He said, am I lucky to be alive or unlucky that I'm a quadriplegic? He can speak and still move people with his words. He said this. He said, this is the most powerful thing for anybody that's that's interested. I think Tom, you got this. He said the relationship with God. He says, everyone thinks, like, you know, why didn't God do this for me? God, God do this for me. Please, God. Pray to God. He goes, I don't know. It's what does God expect from you? Are you are using all your capabilities, all your skillsets to best serve the Lord above and the people around you? If you look at it that way, you'll understand where God is. He said, do not feel sorry for me. I've had an amazing life sitting as a quadriplegic. Do not feel sorry for me. So I'm so grateful that he's alive and I'm so grateful that he's speaking with him. And by the way, you know what he said? He says, he says, you know, you're the last podcast I did. I think it was the last podcast that he did with us. And then he said, hey, I'd like to come back on a podcast. Can I imagine we walk in this room? Can I just say this? We walk in this room. I mean, this is his first speech in public. Pat walks in. They literally like it was a they pat. He wants to talk to you. He goes, bad Drake. First thing, I'm so proud of you. I have to come on your podcast again. We're like, oh my God. Whatever you want, Prager, Aaron Prager. Shout out to you guys. Respect the Dennis Prager. Incredible. What a man. Much love to Dennis, to Sue, to the son, to the grandson Daniel. We met Daniel and the daughter of Grant, he P3. It was great. But anyways, Adam, great having you on. Enjoy. We started a little bit choppy. Well, we finished good. We appreciate that. I don't know. I don't believe in the future. I just don't remember flow. We can debate all that stuff, but it's the full of that matter. He says, I'll be very rude. Adam's, Adam, you can wait. You could apologize right now. Very apologies. You're being cowardly. No, no, no, no, you know what I'm saying? You're almost evident that you're being cowardly. Adam was cowardly. Adam, what's your YouTube? Adam, what? Adam, you apologize. It's very rude. Adam, do you want me to apologize again? No, you're not apologizing for what you have for the show. I don't want to fucking have. We got to wrap up. Hey, Adam, the Adam Friedland show, the Adam Friedland show, we'll put the link below. Go support him. He does some very good interviews with Newsom, Mark Cuban, a lot of other guys. He's actually very, very good interview. You got to get the power of a very good job. God bless everybody. Have a good weekend. Thank you. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. [BLANK_AUDIO]