Tell Me What You Want From Me with Sydnee Washington

(upbeat music) - Y'all, what the fuck is up? Welcome to my favorite lyrics. The podcast we're gonna talk about music lyrics, except when we talk about other stuff. And today we have a very, very special guest. It is our first ever repeat guest that we've ever had on the show. Nobody's been on the show twice, and this is our one year anniversary show. We've officially been around for one full year, and so we decided to have a very special guest. One of the first guests that we ever had on the podcast, you know where you love her, Cindy Washington. - Wow, wow, the pressure's on. - Welcome back, yes, you are our first repeat guest to you ever had. You're the first one we've ever even asked to come back. - I think I might have asked you this. I think I might have said, hey, I think it's time, you know what I mean? 'Cause you had the cue cards and whatnot, you were just trying to figure out what it was. - It was different, it was different. That was you were either our first or second person we ever recorded, it was you or Alex, one of y'all two. - It was. - And we were still, we're still getting our legs underneath this, you know what I mean? - You were very professional. - Yes, you did, I don't know, I don't know what it's devin'. - Do we have video from that, right? We have video, so you will see me, if you go back and watch the early one was said, I do have cue cards, branded cue cards. Shout out to Carmen for that. - Yeah. - Went to Kinkos to get me right. Does Kinkos still exist? - I don't know, I don't know. 'Cause I got a printer. (laughing) I don't want to, I want brag. - That's how I know Sid doing good. Sid doing good, Sid got a printer. - Oh. - Sid got a hat that match her hoodie. - Yeah, I did come on the pod with a hat last time, so I said I had to up the hat with a bigger hat, with a better color, it's like, yeah. - I can't wait, I can't wait, I can't wait to go back and see what the other hat was. And I can't wait to see what the next hat is. I can't wait to see where your hat goes from here. Listen, my energy is just moving for Jamaica, you know? ♪ Virtual insanity, yeah, yeah ♪ - Where is, where is Jamaica now? - I don't know, the thing is that back then, he was giving biracial, he was giving John B. - That was by design. - By design. I feel like now, I feel like you can't trick people into thinking you might be mixed anymore, 'cause I feel like we've got so much information available. You can figure out where they went to high school and the different, you could be like, "Oh no, you can see pictures of people's parents "on the internet." Back then, John B, I didn't know John B was white until his song had been out for like eight months. It had been a minute and I had to see him in the music video 'cause I'd heard the song on the radio and then I saw him and I was like, "Ah." - No, I honestly did not know that John B wasn't white until many, many years later on. - And that's, he wanted you to think that. - Yeah. - You know what I'm saying? I feel like if I remember right, his hair laid down flat. - It did. - He was wearing a wave cap to sleep. - Oh, absolutely. He gave, he gave almost bodhikwa. Like he definitely gave a mixed check other at times. - Oh, yes, of course. - So he could have been anything. - I had to revisit this. There's gonna be some listeners who either too young or too white to know what we're talking about. - Yes, but listen, the way Google is accessible just, it's always something to do. And so while you're listening, you also need to work. And so check it out. - Honestly, I'm looking at images of John B. I'm not sure he's not Puerto Rican, just looking at it. - Well, no, no, no. Look at him now. You could tell. - You could tell he's a white man? - Definitely white man. Yeah. - I'm looking at, look at this black and white photo. - Oh. - Look at this, but that's what they wanted. - Yeah, they put you in black and white. So it's, so it's up for interpretation, what you got going on. Because remember when being almost black was cool? - Of course. - Pink did it. - Everybody did it. Everybody did it. - I wanna talk about this all the time. - Yes. - There was a top, people don't realize that pink, 'cause now pink, she's doing like Cirque du Soleil stuff. - Yep. - And she's like, she's, she's got ribbons and shit like that. She's making songs for like graduation parties in middle school and stuff like that. Now that's the type of time she's on. People don't realize that she used to be rolling her body. - Yeah, well she needed to be cool, get the, you know, clout and sit, well I don't even wanna say clout. I just feel like the 90s, early 2000 to be black-ish was cool. You have street cred. But as soon as you hit that mainstream, you gotta be, ♪ And just like a bill, you're making me better ♪ ♪ You're making me ill, you're making me ♪ - And that's my, that, that's my song. - Never heard you, I like that song. - I'm like, yeah, if I knew all the words, I would definitely do karaoke with to that, but I wanted those people that I do not know the lyrics, but I have the energy as if I know them. - As a person who did karaoke with you like two weeks ago? - Oh, trash. - If y'all ever get the opportunity, y'all gotta go do karaoke with Sydney, because I will say she was putting her whole spirit into every single song. She was really, she was bringing choreography. She was standing up on top of chairs and tables. - I'm gonna do everything except know the words. - Yeah, she wasn't saying the words exactly right. - Yeah, and the words are literally right in front of me. I'm not reading that, I'm not doing all of that. - There's not, there's not reading class, there's not language arts, that's not what this is about. - I'm not here to study, I'm here to give you the feeling as if I know the words, and that's the most important. I'm good for the room. - What's your, you really, you brought, you and Amina brought incredible morale to the room. - Amina knows the words. - Yeah. - She's gonna know the words and she's gonna know what to do, but I'm the backup. - Y'all did that song from Sister Act twice. - Yes. - See, again, I don't, I'm the words, I'm not doing it. - Yeah, and I also, a thing I respected about Sid is, you kind of would have the microphone, but you wouldn't be like putting it to your mouth to say the words. - No. - You kind of, you was kind of out to the audience to be like. - Yeah, and that's why I would, I would have killed as a pop artist. - Right. - Because I'm gonna be moving my mouth, but you know that, that lip sync, this sync is going to be on. - Sure. - The mic is not on. It's off. - The backing track playing. - Yeah. - Wow. - I'm gonna need that. - Yeah. - I'm gonna need that, but I'm gonna do everything you need me to do. I'm gonna have the abs out, I'm gonna make sure the G-string is showing, the eyeliner is gonna be popping. But the words, you're not, you're not hearing that. - You're not quite doing that. - Mm-hmm. - Do you remember what Pink's song was when she was still being black? - I'm trying to remember when I was- - Most girls want the man with the ching-ching. - She didn't say that. - Yes, she did. - She didn't say ching-ching. - Got all my men in a bling bling. - She was not saying ching-ching. - I just want a man with real love. You don't- - They had Pink on the track saying ching-ching, bling-bling. - Yes, hold on. - I don't like that. - Most girls. That's the song. - I don't like that. - Look it up. Now, most girls, Pink. Look at the lyrics. - Uh-huh. - Look at the lyrics, right? Okay. - I'm a American singer. You know, I hate when they hit you with that. I hate you with the- - She is American. - Yeah, but it's like what else? What else? She's something else. - What is that is what country she's from? - Come on. - If she was from France, they'd say, "Franc." - 'Cause Shorty got a job, Shorty got a car. - Shorty. - Shorty can pay her own rent. - Shorty. - Yes. Yes, Pink. Come on. You could tell she had at least two black friends. And they were in the music video. - Also, just look. - Just look. I hadn't looked at Pink in a long time looking at Pink presently. - Even though she's making middle school graduation music, I'm looking at Pink. This looks like a woman with some black kids. - Oh, no, absolutely. - That looks like a woman with a- - Oh, she's stay in Walmart with the flip flop. - And those, you know the shorts. - You know the shorts. - And she don't play about her little black kids. - Yeah, and she's got the graphic T. That says, "Don't play with me." (laughs) - And honestly, just looking at this, just based off the severity of this haircut, this is not a woman that I'm giving no problems. - Okay, so say sorry to me. Most girls want a man with the bling bling, got my own thing, got the chin, chin. - Oh, no. - I just want real love, okay? Say, say, say sorry to me. - I didn't say you were wrong. - I was a girl about the floss. What is the floss, Pink? - She was flossy. - It explained to me, the floss, whenever you put a girl there, that means you are not about that life. - Well, sometimes with these, sometimes with these artists, I feel like they always have black people writing with them. - Yeah. - And sometimes I do feel like, sometimes I feel like the black people just kind of want to make them say something a little silly. - A little. - Just to see if they would. I feel like Dallas Austin was in there being like, the floss. - The floss. - And she was like, "Are you sure? "Is it the floss?" And she was like, "Yeah, that's how we say it. "It's the floss." - She was like, "No, she's probably saying the floss." When she said the floss, she said, "Actually, this feels too good, "so that means it must be wrong." - Sure, sure. - 'Cause it probably just came out of her, came out of the mouth so easily. - Yeah, it flowed off the tongue a little too smooth. - Yeah, pink definitely was down with the, with the, he, he, ha, ha, you know? - Whoa. - She had red hair, you know. - Look at the album cover for Pink's first album. - We don't even know what she is. - We don't know what's going on. - We're gonna have to pull this up. This could be a woman of truly any ethnicity. You do not know what shade, what shade her skin is. - Mm-hmm. - Wow. - That's the thing when, when A&R was actually working and looking for talent and-- - Look at what she was doing. Look. - Yeah. - They're fully trying to hide. - You go, look it. - Look it. - Pit-to-fo. - Pit-to-fo. - Pit-to-fo. - Yeah, she not even, she not even putting the L on it. - No. - Pit-to-fo. - Pit-to-fo. Because, because, again, let me get back to my, my, my thought. When A&R had to go out in, in the field and look for the talent and was like, okay, I'm, I'm gonna look for you and then we're gonna build off of that. It's about the development. - Yeah. - Now you gotta already have it. You gotta know what you would-- what your thing is, your niche, or whatever, you got to already come as a full package back then. They'll see you in a mall. They'll see you getting a pretzel anti-ans. I don't know what it was called back then, but they'll see you getting a pretzel in that sweetash lemonade, and they're like, that girl has something. - True. - She has something. Because she was like probably singing in front of, "Oh, yeah." And then-- - And they said, "Oh, oh, oh." Is that money? Do I hear money? Do I hear a future? - Yeah. - And then they say, "Come on with us." - I think, I feel like I read a story about somebody finding Mary J. Blodger like a gas station. - No way. - Yeah, she was like at a gas station or something like that. I don't, somebody fact check me on this, but I do think-- - So I just want you to know, sometimes those stories were not true. They just needed to sound good. - It just sounds cool. I need to start doing, I need to start making up stories about my backdrop, 'cause the actual stories, it's not that easy. - Guys, you got to lie. 'Cause people need to know, they need a back story. - They need a back story for them to care. - Yeah. - 'Cause if you just come out, well, actually-- - Actually, I just worked really hard and I just did my best. - And my dad knew somebody, that's not a good story. - My aunt is glad, it's nice. Like, nobody wants to hear that shit. - That's not a good story. - You gotta have something to know. - You gotta be like, I was cleaning up the sewers at night. I was cleaning up the sewers in every single night. I had to sing just to get myself through the stench. And one day-- - My whole house burned down. - Yeah, well, that is true. - That is actually-- - That did happen. - That was true, but I'm tone deaf. So you know what he's about, that story. - It's also not, that's, yeah, it's not, well, not a good story for me. - It is? - Sydney, Sydney burned down her house as a child. - When I was 11. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Get it right now, get it right, 11. - Is that not a child? - I said a child and she said, "Well, hold on. "I was a grown-ass woman, I was 11 years old. "Do not say I was a child." I was like, "Get it right." Like, I think 11 in child, that feels right to me. She said, "Well, hold on." - I paid bills and I burned down houses. - I did not-- - I was grown. - I was not getting paid. - I was a grown 11-year-old doing arson. You thought it was a mistake. Actually, I was in it for the insurance back. - Wow. I was never that ahead of the game at all. - He wasn't that tough, did he? - No, it was a pure accident, okay, that I got away with. - What's-- - Go see the show. - Whoo, anyways, yes. So, Pink, John B, who else? There was another person who, you know, Christina Aguilera? - Well, she got something going on, right? - Well, she was obviously Aguilera. - You're right. - Is she Chilean? Is she-- - What is she? - Venezuelan? What is she? Come on now. - I don't know. I will look this up. - Look it up. You have a whole laptop. - You're right. I got access to all this stuff. - She's Aguilera, she's not Costa Rican. - How do you say it? - Aguilera. Christina Aguilera. - I think it's-- Okay, I'm not-- - What is it? - I think it's Aguilera. - Aguilera. I have invisalign in, guys. That's what that looks like. - It looks good. - Thank you. - Thank you. - Christina Aguilera, let's see what she's-- - What is she going on? - It's not gonna say an American artist, is it? - Okay, well, she is from America. - Yes. - What does it say there? - What does it mean? Yes, it does say an American singer. - Okay. - Because she grew up in America. - All right. Like yours wouldn't say African comedian Sydney Washington. - Let me see what my Wikipedia say. - But what does, what does, what does, what does it say? - It says, Ecuadorian. - I was a rock. - Her father is from Ecuador. - Is Chilly near Ecuador? - I believe so, but honestly, you know, the education system failed me. It's so as long. - The geography, I don't know. - It's all in, that's all, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, no, no. It's all in Central America. - Yes. - Woo, you did it. - God, it was harder for me to bring that up than I wanted it to be. - I'll say that. That was, it bummed me out that it took me five seconds to find Central America. - You were so educated that this is crazy. - Well. - But I remember in Clueless, when, when Cher was talking to her, the, the, the maid, she got her mixed up with Mexican. And I remember her saying, I am not a Mexican. And then her, you know, her step brother had to come and be like, she is, she's from Chile. - I appreciate you not doing the accent. - No, no, no. - I appreciate you not, 'cause I was waiting for, I was bracing myself for you to do the, - But I think I did, kind of. - No, no, you, you, you, - She said, I am not a Mexican. - No, but, I mean, you said it like Bill Clinton. - Oh. (laughing) - Remember when Bill Clinton kind of was like, he's also by racial? - Well. - 'Cause he played the saxophone. - But the saxophone doesn't make you by racial. - Is he from New Orleans? - No, he's from Arkansas. - Oh, well, that, the, the New Orleans of, the New Orleans of Arkansas. (laughing) - My favorite lyrics, which are most ignorant ass guess. Sydney Washington. I'll take that. I'll take that. - I do, I do, I, I, - I'll take that. - The idea of you being like, Bill Clinton was by racial, right? He was playing the saxophone. (laughing) - No, I'm just saying that they also marketed him to the people. - They definitely wanted black people to like him. - Yes. - And that did work. - His office was in Harlem. - Is that true? - Yes. Yes, look it up, what did they say? - He was over here nodding to the, he was nodding over here. - I am from Harlem. He, his office was in Harlem. - When? - When he was the president after, - After, after. - Oh, I got to, okay. 'Cause I was like, he went from being the governor or Arkansas to the president. - Right. - At which stage was he located in Harlem, North of 125. - Right. - I couldn't, okay. I was trying to figure that out, but okay. I got to. - Yes, yes. - After, after he was the president. - Yes. - He was popped up in Harlem. - Yeah, after he did all that. - He was acting. - They said, hey man, you gotta be, now you really gotta be with it. Now you really, now you have to be in Harlem. - Yeah, exactly. They said no midtown for you. - No. - They said, get up there with ASAP Rocky and them. - You don't know how to act. - Not even real. - Go hang out with ASAP Ferg. That's what they said. (upbeat music) - Sydney, I mean, I feel like, I feel like I have a sense of your musical tastes because we know each other very well, but- - Tell the people, tell the people. 'Cause I wanna hear what you think my musical taste is. - Sid, I feel like, is Sid really loves, or Sid loves a lot of stuff, but Sid, I think you are maybe my friend who has the biggest love of contemporary R&B. Like modern day R&B, I feel like you got a lot of love for it. - I do. - You, Sydney is also one of the few people who, like me, is still very tapped in on SoundCloud. - And I'll say here before people, you said what you got something on SoundCloud, like it was a disc. Now it's like if you have something on SoundCloud, I actually respect you, because you are actually about the art, about the work, about the music. - SoundCloud has some gyms and I- - Amazing artists. - 'Cause it's a, 'cause what people don't realize about SoundCloud is like, you don't have to, it doesn't have the licensing restrictions that you have to have to upload stuff on it, all these other platforms. On to YouTube, or on to Apple Music, or Spotify. You like, the laws are very tight, so if you upload a sound that you don't own, you can get in trouble for it. On SoundCloud, you can do anything. It's the wild, wild west. So it's all kinds of unreleased stuff to the rest of the public that they don't have access to all kinds of like, matches and mixes. - And I have that ear for that, 'cause you don't have ADHD and I'm type B. So anything that's all over the place, and you're like, where are we going, that's what I resonate with. - Yeah, yeah. - So I am a SoundCloud baddie. I also come from the school of original R&B. I mean, I really miss that people don't do the mint condition renditions of a song that's seven minutes of somebody really just in the bridge. Singing, singing about being in love or how hot somebody is, or that feeling of being pressed and has a crush. And I'm on my knees, I'm bleeding, baby, baby, please, where is that, where is that, come on, Simp, Simp, help for me. - I think about this constantly. It's this has come up on this podcast before, but it's been a while since we talked about it. - Okay. - I do feel like the state of R&B generally is, it's lacking lovers. - It's lacking lovers? - It's lacking lovers, except, I mean, but then I've said this on the internet and I've heard people be like, but you're talking about like male R&B singers. Like that's specific to male R&B. She was like, the people on the internet have told me, like the girls are loving. The girls are, I don't know if that's, I don't know if I, all the way agree with that. That was somebody who also listens to like women in R&B. I feel like there is a lot of toxicity just kind of writ large, 'cause I feel like that's, as somebody who also, who also will go into my Kalani bag as somebody who will also get in my summer walker bag, the girls are talking about a lot of toxicity as well. Maybe Kalani, maybe the queen of all toxicity in R&B. - I just want you to know that that is, it's trickled down from the culture. What's going on? - Sure, because there's so much negativity happening in the world, the music is reflected in that. - You think it's just about relationships is bigger than that. - Whoa, it's geopolitical. - Yes, it is. And so it's like how can I fall in love like pure, pure unconditionally when I'm listening to everything that's going on on TikTok. - Right. - And the conversation's in threads. - Right. - And what is it? X, X, Instagram, all that. Because we have access to what everybody is talking about. You feel that, these girls are in-path. So some of the things that are not even going on in their lives, they're feeling that and they're writing that in their song. - How am I supposed to live life and love when the eggs are so expensive? - There it is. - Oh my God. -You know how I'm saying that. -Where is Marie Foxon? I feel like Marie would really, really eat in this conversation right now. -We need to get you and Marie on as a duo. -Oh, yeah. -I haven't thought about it, but it's like, what time is the episode actually going to start with this? -Oh, you know what? Don't talk about my sis. She's not here to defend herself. -Well, I'm talking about y'all as a unit, as a duo. -I mean, when I'm here, she's here. So I don't know what you're talking about now. -She's here a little-- she's going to be here a little bit after you. -Listen, you got to stay-- What are we talking about? You guys stick to the script, babe. -Hey, going on. I don't know what this is about. -I need to-- I would love to have you and Marie on. I need to do-- I feel like Stavros will be doing, like, duos. -Yeah. -Who will bring it on people that he knows are friends doing them together. -He does. He does duos so he can gang up on one person with their teammate. -Stav, you-- -Stav, you ganged up on you? -Yes, he does. 'Cause he knows that Marie's comedy first. -Yeah. -I'm friendship first. -Yeah, you're a sweet hug. -Yeah, so I want to protect and Marie's like, "Nah, where's the joke less-- though, let's throw her under the bus, that's what-- That's the comedy bus. -You're going in for a hug, and Marie's flicking somewhere in the throat. -Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, she's unleasing the clip, and that's why we love her. -Yeah, that's the balance between y'all, the end and the end. -Yes, but back to the girls making the music. Yes, the women are toxic, the men are toxic. Yes, yes, yes, yes, we understand that. But what I came in here is with Brent. -Woo! -Rent by Oz. -Look at that segue. -Yes. -Look at that motherfucking segue. -Oh, you got to lead the children. -This ain't like the earlier episode. Look at me, look at me in the camera. This ain't like the episode we did before. Look at that segue. We didn't come a long way in one year. Come on, before-- I bet you listen to that old episode, I'm like, "Uh, uh, uh, what we doing, uh, what, uh, how do I-- That's how I sound in the previous episode. It's not like that anymore. -Thank you. -It's not like that anymore. We in a different space. Look at that perfect set way. -Thank you. -Cinney, take them away. -Yes, I came in with Brent Fias, obviously, old and new, but I would just want to hit you with some of the new stuff. -Yeah. -It's clear, it's a recession. -Yeah. -Because now Brent is no longer toxic. He is sipping. -Yeah. -He is, I am in love. -Yeah. -I am ready to-- -Reception indicator. -Yeah, I'm ready to move in and be right for you. He's asking questions-- He's asking for consent. Is it okay? How do you feel? -Yeah. -Are you all right? Do you feel the same way I feel? -Is it anything like I feel? -Yeah. -I didn't hit the note, but my spirit was in the right space. -Yes, that song "Butterflies," "Butterflies," which-- -Yes, incredible song. -Let's get to the original "Butterflies," Alicia Keys. ♪ You give me butterfly ♪ ♪ Got me flying so high in the sky ♪ ♪ I can go in through the butterflies ♪ -That's Alicia Keys' "Butterflies," right? -Okay. All about the feeling and just like, sipping. I don't know if Brent, like, listened to that song, but I get that same emotion. -I don't know this, Alicia Keys. -Oh, baby. Yeah, because y'all don't know music. -I don't know it. -I know Michael Jackson, "Butterflies." -I do. I do. Yes, obviously, but we don't have to go that far. -What's that? -We can just go to Alicia Keys. -Okay, yeah, yeah. -You know, who is the prototype of maybe a girl that I would be attracted to? -Yeah, kind of soft-- soft stud. -Yes, soft. Well, you know, my girlfriend does not-- She's not here for titles, but if we were to put a title on her, yes. -Yeah. -She does not like titles, but I will put that title, yes. -Yes. -That does apply. -Yes, so Brent Fias in-- is it Fias or Fias or what is it? -I say Fias. -Fias. -That's what I said. -Fias, okay. -Brent, Mr. Brent, in the song "Butterflies," he says, "How do you feel? Is it anything like I feel?" Yes or no? Is it anything like I feel? Let me know. Now, to break that down for a heterosexual straight-- heterosexual and straight is the same, but sometimes you've got to get the clinical temper. heterosexual straight African-American man to say, "How do you feel?" First, oh, we are ready. We are ready in a place where it's not even about him. How do you feel? He's given the floor to you. -Yes. -So, when I heard that, I said, "This is not the old Brent." It's not the old Brent at all. Because before Brent was like, "Hey, drop the roof. The roof is down. The money is flowing." I spent 30K on the hotel. You're not sleeping tonight. We up all night. You do what I want you to do. He did say that. That was crazy, Brent. But I know what you meant. But now he's really like-- I know this is fast. But I know what a crush is. This is not that. I want to be with you. And that's when you know either the money is low for the men or the heart is full. Which one do you think it is? I think Brent is doing well. I think he's doing well, but I think he's doing good. I think he's doing good. But I think eventually you get tired of being with the hose. You've got to be exhausted, man. Girls are just throwing themselves. And you know he cut the corn rolls off. He runs it out. Yeah. He back to the fade or he had the little small high top. Maybe the toxicity was baked into the braids. It could have been. It could have been. And once he took them off, it's like Samson. It's like Samson. Once you cut that, you know what I'm saying? He lost the strength of his toxicity. Possibly good. He's still wearing glasses inside. So that is where I'm a little scared because it's like, who are you? Because he got sunglasses on indoors. Interesting. Yeah, he still has sunglasses on. I think if you were a R&B singer, you would do the exact same thing. No. Yeah. I think if you were a famous musical artist, I think you would have sunglasses on constantly. That's just part of it. Oh, is that so? I think so. Is that so? Okay. Yeah, I think that's part of it. All right. Well, when you see me wearing sunglasses all the time, just know the money has changed. Well, here's it. The money has changed. The status is higher. The comedians can't act like that. Why not? The comedians can't act like that because we're supposed to be too silly to be that cool. The only comedian that I ever have seen that was like sunglasses inside type of cool is Eddie Murphy. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And that made a lot of sense for him. But present day in the era of reels, you can't be. You can't know a whole bunch about marketing strategy and then be wearing sunglasses inside. No, no. There'll be a con or somewhere with his glasses on. I'll be like, what the hell are you talking about? I know about Q1. Oh, sure. He's going to be hitting you with that. So I feel like there could be some change. Okay. But whatever. Okay. So Brent is literally asking this girl, hey. How did she feel? And I actually found the girl on TikTok who he's dating right now. Oh. Yeah. Who he's been dating. I don't want to be good now. Okay, sure, sure. Allegedly out there. But she is a baddie. Yeah. She's giving Latina. Okay. Sure. Like Christina Aguileta. Yes. Waces non-existent. Okay. And so if this is the girl he's talking about, I can see him being soft for her. Oh, that's why he's so in love. Yeah. I can see it. And when I was reading in the comments, they've been together for a bit. They've been rocking for a bit. Yeah. Because Brent used to be talking about, I like to run the streets when it's dark out and come home and blow your back out. I hope that's okay. That's how he used to be talking about. Maybe he was always kind of asking, is that all right? But when he was asking before, it wouldn't really feel like he was asking. He was asking a question. Like when somebody's already taking a French fry off your plate and be like, hey, can I have a French fry? That's how it felt like he was doing before. You know, this reminds me of this viral TikTok that's going on right now. There's a guy teaching young boys about consent. I saw this. And it's so dope. Teach these to the men. There's 35-year-old men who need to know who need to be in that class right now. That is fair. Okay. Just because she said, yes, you didn't ask. You didn't stretch her out for about five minutes. And now she's like, okay, sure. So Brent, maybe Brent was being like, yeah, you know, if I can. May I blow your back out? First of all, that sounds crazy. Yeah. It doesn't go together. That'll go. Yeah. But I mean, I'm really happy with this album because it doesn't just sound like your typical R&B. It felt like he was moving towards a little bit of jazz. Yeah. Because that's what love is. Love is that type of journey. And that's what I want to hear. That's what I want to hear from the men. I want y'all to take them leather jackets off, put a button down on. Interesting. I want to take a girl on a date before nine p.m. Yes, the dates just start at seven. Yes, seven p.m. Well, that's when I know you really, you really about me. Are you trying to take me out at 10? First of all, food not even digested at that time. You know what I will, you know what I will say is somebody who lives in New York City a lot of times, the reservations is booked up at seven o'clock. Because that's some of the people who are about that love. So sometimes you got to get that. About that love, that life, and that going a bit. Sometimes you got to get that nine, fifteen reservation just because, you know, it depends on how far in advance you book the date. Devin, you're making excuses. Okay, and also if I'm also interested in the fact that you said, if you want to be in love, you got to take off the leather jacket. The leather jacket is not a garment of love? No. It's actually a shield. It's a shield. Whenever I see the men's, you know, very like dark colored in their albums, you're not about it. You see how 112, there was a lot of covers where, you know, they got the white. They got a white belt. all wearing white. Okay. The chest is open. Uh-huh. That is giving you an invitation that I'm here. That's oh, I see. Oh, I see. I'm blessed. I'm on my knees for you. But when you're wearing the leather and you got the glasses and, you know, what is it? When you line up the line up with the spray? What's that? Oh, with the with the Beijing? Yeah, when you put in the Beijing, you're not really trying to be in love. Interesting. Interesting. You're not here for the girl. So here I was thinking of a lot of these 90s and 2000s R&B dudes had their chests out for sexuality purposes. I thought they was trying to be sexy, but what they was actually trying to do is being like, "Baby, I want you to know my heart's right here." Yeah. My heart's right here. And by me not wearing a shirt, you are that much closer to it. I don't even want no divider. I don't even want no shirt in between you and my heart. That's how close I want y'all to be. You see what happens when you listen? You got to open your ears. Guys, close your mouth. Open your ears. How do you feel? Yes. I'm missing the notes again. You are. And there's, okay, but I knew that Brent was moving towards love when he made that song, "Waste it." If you're going to waste your time, waste your time with me, like boom, because that song is really about, this is all on you, babe. It seems like you making a lot of crazy decisions romantically. If you're going to make some crazy, make them with me, because I'm listening. That feels like it's leaning more towards toxicity to me. No, no, no, go ahead. I mean, honestly, open your eyes and see who's giving you what you need. Question mark. If you're going to waste your time, then waste your time with me, you can have all the space more than you need. It's no pressure girl. If you're going to waste your time, waste your time with me. It's like, you're going to waste your time, right? Anyway, but if you're going to do it, you're going to do with me. And I'm going to show you the way. You need to be over here. You need to be loved. This is how you get people to be on your side. You've got to be toxic. You've got to switch up on them, but they so used to you being toxic. They don't even know you're actually opening the door for real love. Interesting. Interesting. This is coming from a lesbian perspective. Yeah. Okay. Because also, you know, I'm K1, Sasha Kebel, Kaila Ami, all of those. Where would you say that group of artists is on the toxicity scale? Oh, they. Seems pretty high up to me. Yes, because also women love so unconditionally and unconsciously, like we're just going to give it up. Like the heart is already on the appetizer. No, the heart is in the in the bread basket. So we starting up, like, what's up? What's good? Right? And so we get real caught up in that. And it's very passionate. And that's, it's not our fault that it gets toxic. Because we're not coming in trying to scam you. We just trying to keep it, you know, keep it real. Okay. So you're saying there's so much love involved that there is no choice but to get toxic? Yes. Yes. There it is. That's crazy. No, I don't think so. I don't think so. That's great. That also, that sounds like something that toxic nigga was saying. Whoa, it's like, I love you so much. It had to be mess. No, no, no. I just want you to show the different toxic. They're saying, but it was never there. Like a lesbian love. We do have the look. I wouldn't lie to you about the love that I actually have to give. It's not my fault that I have so much love to give that it spills over. And it moves around. No, no, no, no. Everybody feeling like they're loved, but you know, you, you sound like Brent Fies. Now I see why y'all so now I see why y'all so connected. Now I see why he resonates with you on that type of level. No, no, no, no. Yeah. First of all, I'm too tired. Okay, I'm not spreading my love to that made people. Okay, I only got enough for the person I'm with. Okay, because let me tell you the way my sleep is set up. Yeah. Yeah. If you get in between the sleep, we're not, we're not doing any. Sure. We can. I don't, I can't get, I can't get damp for you if I haven't slept. So damp is such a crazy word. Respectfully. Yes. As a friend, I'm sorry, I said that word in front of you. It's okay. Yeah, damp is damp. Yeah. Okay, now we moving in. I know we did a little Brent, but Sasha Kibble. Yeah. It's so sexual. Yeah. And I've been listening to her a lot and it's getting me ramped up to like how sexual women are with each other. Yeah. Tell me what you want. Have you seen, have you heard that song? But from Sasha Kibble. Yeah, you haven't heard that song because you're not, you're not on that. But it's really, it's so nasty because she's talking about like she could take more than two fingers. And you know, as a lesbian, yes. Not everything has to be about a penis, a finger is enough. I'm always saying that. No, Devon. Don't try to, don't try to co-op our, our speak. Wait, it's Sasha Kibble white. She's Colombian. She's mixed. Oh, yeah. In my, in my mind, she was always a black woman. I really, you know, I don't want to go there. Oh, she's not. This is wait a second. She's from the UK. She's from the UK is different. That'll make her not white. I know. But it kind of like, this is brand new information to me. I always thought she was black. Why? Did you see her? Look at her. Well, I clearly didn't see her. Well, she doing, she's giving John B. She actually is. Wow. Damn, you see how it goes. People really circle of life. It does go back. Everybody trying to obscure what they got going on. I know. I'm looking at some of these Sasha Kibble pictures. And I'm like, this is like a whole white woman. She might be a white Latina. But this is, but she now look, look her up. Look her up on her Wikipedia. Sasha Kibble. Yeah. What does it say? It's not going to say American. It's going to say United Kingdom. Okay, Sydney. Hey, hey. Okay, hold on. Okay. She was born to a British father and a Colombian mother. Yes. Okay. So she is, she's a white Latina. Yeah. Hey, listen, I'm more caught up in the word. No, and I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that. I don't see color. All voices matter. Yeah. Get out of here. Get me out of here. Okay. So listen, this, and this is, I just want to get into because a lot of people say, hey, Sydney, you are a lesbian. Yeah. But you really, it's really giving straight vibes because a lot of my friends are straight. Lowercase L. Lowercase L. They really just say, girl, you would be. And I'm not. They try to put the bisexual out of Getsham. They try to put the bisexual on me. But this is where, this is why this music gets to me so much because this is the, this is what it really feels to be like a lesbian. Tell me what you want from me. So already submissive. I'm already like what you want, right? Your hands all over my body. Or do you want me to touch myself? Like, oh, when you hear straight men talk, it's like, I'm in there. Bang, bang, bang, bang, put you to sleep. Yeah. He don't even put a towel on you. You don't want to want to water or nothing. Are you hungry? You want to sandwich? He's not talking like that. You're not even bringing no electricity. Exactly. Right. Or you take me and then break, and I'll give you a break. Yeah. Smaller pieces I could fit in every crevice. And they talk about crevices because that, that actually doesn't sound hot. Crevices when she's singing it. I'm like, yes, crevice. Yes. She got, she said, got me biting harder on your necklace. Now, how long is the necklace? That's for me. I'm not, and I'm just working on my teeth. I'm not really biting. You're not putting a lot of metals, nothing on my teeth. I spend too much money on that. But she's like, I just want to thank you for your service. I'm trying to work around your fingers. Like, oh, like that. It's the word. Yeah. It's the, I want to thank you for your service because you are providing. You're providing as, as a woman, woman to woman. I salute. Salute. Yeah. I'm going to help you. Five stars. You know, and I think that's what it is about getting to the music and the words and romance. Yeah. It's like, it's like, take that, take that leather jacket off again. It's not about who's dominated, who's the best. It's, it's like, what can I do for you? How can we get there? And I, I want more of that in the words. I think I, I'm 100% with you. I feel like, especially as a person who listens to, I listen to a lot of rap music. Obviously, Niggas is not talking about just like, just, just laying you down and showing you a nice time. It's all about knock the pussy out like fight night. And it's like, and there's a time in a place. I love that song, but why? There's a time in a place for that. But also like, you know what I'm saying? I work too hard. Right. I have so many different jobs. Yeah. What do I mean? Why are we talking about boxing? I'm already getting beat up from the world. Yeah. I don't want to get knocked out in the bedroom. That's crazy. That's, that's domestic violence. That's what that is. I don't want that. Yeah. No, you know, and I'm a lover girl. Yeah. I really am a lover girl. And that's what I want to listen to. I want, and I go, I'll go to the gym and I'll listen to this. This is the type of music I, I'll listen to on the trip. You listen to R&B music at the gym? Yeah. Interesting. I do. Dan, that's really, that's a real one. That's a real one. That's a real one. - That's real love. - Tell me what you want from me. Your hands are loving my body. - That I am going in, yeah, doing squats. - You know who else was also black fishing for a little bit? - Oh my god. - Who I also did not know was it black, Snow Allegra. I didn't realize. - That's right. - I didn't realize Snow Allegra wasn't black. And I feel like that was very much by design. I feel like she was doing, she was slicking, she was slicking that bum back. She was slicking that bum back in a way that really had me thinking that she was, hold on. - No, but if you see, but if you hear her name, Snow Allegra, I'm not thinking. - Niggas got all sorts of names. - No. - Look at that. - Our music is amazing too. - I fuck with Snow Allegra, but I really did think that there's a reason. - She sent. - She sent. - Made by a black woman. - Yeah. - I did. - But again, again, everybody has to know where does music start from? - Black people. - Exactly. So if anything, you have to pay homage to us. - Yes. - To the business world. - And what's her name? Zara Larson. - Uh-huh. - White Tyler? Oh my God. (laughing) Sorry. (laughing) She does it for me. She does it for me every time. - I haven't dug into Zara Larson as much. I know a couple of joints, but I need to, I need to get in. - She's good. - I need to do my research. - She's like, she's like Poppy, you know. And you look at her and you're like, okay. I can tell, you know, Rihanna had you for a moment. You know, and so-- - Oh, she's from Sweden. - Yes, and when you see a sweetened girl, shake it, shake it like a soul-shaker and it's on beat, I'm like, who are your people? - You're listening. You know who else is a Swedish? It's no allegra. There's something. - Oh, I did not know that. She's Swedish? - Yes, she is. - No, no, no, wait. I thought she was like Middle Eastern. - Well, she, I think her, I think she was born. I think she grew up in Sweden. But I think her lineage, her like national, like her family lineage, I do think is, is like Iranian or something like that. - My favorite lyrics is no child left behind. And I appreciate that. - We're learning. - You're trying to get me there. - Yes. - And, you know. - We're finding it. - I'm taking it. - Sid, I mean, we're having so much fun. We're running out of time. - It's crazy. - I mean, I feel like we've been having a blast. But like, let's get into some stuff. 'Cause we, for the one year anniversary, we brought some, we brought some voicemails, we brought some e-mail, so let's dive in. Let's grab those headphones. - Okay. (upbeat music) - Hey, Devon, long time listener. First time caller. I love the pod. Oh, hey, Devon and a steam guest, of course. - Yes. - I'm calling to talk about Megan the Stallion. Surprise, not a lot of callers have talked about her lyrics before, because they're awesome. Specifically, I'll cut right to the chase. Um, my pussy is the most expensive meal you'll ever eat. The only accolade you ever made is that I fucked you. And I'm not giving it the right. She produces so well. Obviously, I'm a white woman. It sounds better. Coming from Megan the Stallion. - Respects for saying. - Also, she's coming from you a bitch. If you get the chance, I bet you snitch. You'll never get a chance to tell me and come past my shit. And then immediately you'll, ladies love yourself, 'cause this shit could get ugly. She immediately goes from fucking, but also ladies like listen, close and listen here. Love yourself first. Like, I like the quick push and female empowerment. Obviously, huge fan of that. I listen to this song almost every day and even more when I'm having bad days. I love Megan the Stallion. I get to talk forever about her, her resilience. How awesome she is. And also, her lyrics are fun and they're awesome. Okay, Devin, can't wait to hear what you think about this. Talk to you. - Hey, come on with the college dissertation final paper about Megan the Stall. I love it. Thank you. - What a beautiful, respectful white woman talking about Megan the Stallion. 'Cause it could have got weird. When I saw, when I saw a white woman talking about Megan the Stallion, I was like, ah, this could get strange. Sometimes white women's relationship to Megan, like, that can feel a little bit weird. - She knows her history. Also, the call is from Atlanta. So she didn't, what, she a white woman in Atlanta. So she didn't, she'd have been immersed. She had an immersion program. Yeah, no, that is, that is beautiful. I do respect the way that Megan's like, simultaneously, fuck these niggas, but also love yourself. - Yeah. - Look inside, you don't need that man. - You don't have to, yeah, and to say that your koochi is the most expensive thing you're gonna ever eat. Megan the Stallion, absolutely. - Yeah. - That is the most expensive. For me, ah, I think it's black Friday every day over here. But, you know, 'cause I'm older, you know, I've been out here. I'm tired. So like, yeah, I probably wouldn't have ever be my lyric, but yeah, yeah. - What, what was your version of it? What was your version of that, Barbie? - Babe, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, she ain't on a clearance rack. But, you know, you ain't got a, you ain't got a, you ain't got a, you ain't got a dropper rack. But I ain't on a clearance rack. - Oh, I see what you're saying. - I'm just moderate. I'm like, you know, I'm available. I'm in the store, you know what I'm like. If you got your apple pay, I'm there. - But I'll say, if you in the store, they got to go in the back to get you. You not just out there with everybody else, they got to, you got to get a sales associate. - Ah. - To go back in the back to bring my friend out. - Okay, 'cause I'm locked up. - You feel me? - I'm the lashes and the detergent. - Come on now. - You know what? - Come on. - Yeah, exactly. - True. - Yeah. - Let's keep it rolling. Shout out to that caller. Do we have her name? No, we don't. But shout out to that respect for white woman. I also respect the fact that she was like-- - That's her name. - Respect for white woman. Shout out to respect for white woman. I also respect the fact that she, she was like, you know what, and I'm not gonna say this is good as Meg did. I'm not, and she was, and she didn't, and she understood. - I'm not gonna be good as Meg. - Yeah. Let's go, we've got an email, which I feel like we've not done a ton of emails lately, but let's see what we got. - When you read it, like read it, you know, give it some, 'cause sometimes we be reading the letters and it doesn't make sense 'cause we're like, - 'Cause we're not putting the right inflections on it. Okay, all right, I'll try to, I'll try to read this like Nicole from LA. - Yeah, let me coach you. - Okay, all right, let's see. Hey, Devon and guest. I wanted to follow up on Molly Carnie's, I already fucked up my friend's name, Molly Carnie. I wanted to follow up on Molly Carnie's episode about D4L's "Laffy Taffy" being a song to shake your wiener till. (laughing) D4L's "Laffy Taffy" being a song to shake your wiener to. I will say this is a reference too, if y'all haven't listened to, go back and listen to Molly's episode, it's very funny. We had a listener talk about "Laffy Taffy" and Molly goes, okay, so when they're talking about "Laffy Taffy" are they talking about a wiener or a butt? That's exactly what Molly said. - That's a good question. - No, it's not. - Why? - And this is exactly what Molly and I got into, 'cause I was like, if a song came out in 2006, that was about specifically shaking your penis and balls around, we would know about that. We would know about that and there would be no way that that would be like, that would have broken the whole shit open. There would be no world in which that would have been like. - They wouldn't just say that. - A secret. And I think that also would have happened in the music video. We seen a music video, it wasn't dick shaking around. Now I feel like we're in a space where we could have that. - The "Laffy Taffy" is your. - Well, the "Laffy," the "Snap" is, that's just the dance that was doing to the beat. Shake that "Laffy Taffy," they're talking about girl shake, shake your ass around. Shake that "Laffy Taffy." - I don't know, actually, bump that. I don't like why would my ass be a "Laffy Taffy"? - Well, that's the tone, whole sepally. - Yeah, 'cause my ass does not give "Laffy Taffy." 'Cause "Laffy Taffy" is kinda, you gotta really, you gotta like, for it to actually move. - You gotta really. - It's kinda stiff, "Laffy Taffy." - I guess maybe that's what D4L was talking about. He was like, he was like, he was like, "Shake that thing around, like you really mean it." - Oh, you know what I'm saying? Even if it's stiff, make it shake. - Teach the babies, teach the babies. - Nicole said, my version that she always thought, shake that monkey meant the same thing. 'Cause okay, E-40 has a song called "You and That." - Yes, yes. ♪ I've been doin' and thinkin' and thinkin' and thinkin' ♪ ♪ Trying to get to you and have booty ♪ E-40's "You and That" has a line saying, girl I been shaking, girl I been shaking and actin' a donkey trying to get you and that monkey. That was pretty not bad E-40 impression. (laughing) She said, Nicole says, "Monkey makes me think of a monkey tale, A-K-A, trying to get you and that weiner." Fascinating. I don't know how that could be anything else. Okay. Thoughts, Sydney. I'll let you go first, before I weigh in on that. - I don't, yeah, I don't like, yeah, what is the monkey? - You know, this is the deepest I've ever thought about what the monkey is because this song came out of the time when my brain was still developing. I just kind of took it at face value. - Yeah, and the music at that time, you shaking. So my brain is frittata, you know what I'm sayin'? Like, I'm no longer breaking it down. I'm more so worried about how I feel on the dance floor. - Sure. - You know? - It's-- - Should we ask him? Should we ask E-40? - E-40, if you're listening and we know that you are. - Yeah. - Pull up to the pod, let's talk about this. Let's talk about, 'cause monkey also could be pussy. Oh. - Oh, no, absolutely not. - 'Cause that's what he's trying to get. - Why would you call it, why? - Well, that's its own separate. I'm not saying I agree with any-- - It's directly also, as a black person, monkey, no. - Well, and see, and that's-- - And that's, I personally, just, as a black man, I'm not calling nothing monkey. - Exactly. - Nothing's ever getting called monkey if I got any-- - It's not happening. - That's, I don't even really use the word. - Yeah, me neither. - Except for to describe the animal. - Exactly, that goes only time. - I'm never used. - I don't know it any other way. - It's certainly not anything sexual to me. - No, you know what I'm saying, so. - That's how you dry it up. - Yeah. - That's how you share 'em, wow, the situation. That's when I'm calling my car. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. I, yeah, you know Nicole, we're not with you on this. I'm gonna say that, we're not with you on this, but we're also not with monkey being referred to as anything sexual, so we're just kind of saying no to everything this-- - No, all of it, no. - That's going on. - All right, let's go, we got another voicemail, let's see what's going on. - I can listen. - Yeah. - All right, I'm Zach from Chicago. - What's up? I saw the number while I was watching a punky Jonathan episode. - Respect. - And it just made me think about, it's lyric by this guy Kim Carson. Song is called SS. It's about, it's loosely about the asher Sydney Swini. And my favorite lyric from that song is, "She got unlimited pussy, I'm about to fuck her for hours." I just, I think that's just one of the idea of unlimited pussy 'cause like out of context I would think he's talking about multiple women is like, no, she got unlimited pussy, so I just thought that was funny. And I was sure, all right, that's it. - Okay, respect. Shout out to Homie from Chicago for sending that. - Zach from Chicago, I'm disappointed. I'm disappointed in you. - Why are you disappointed in him? - He didn't write it. - I know, but he's just like, he liked that. He liked it, he liked it, I don't, why? - I do think it's a funny thing to say a woman got unlimited pussy 'cause it's like, I don't, I don't-- - It don't go away. - Yeah, that's what, I don't know what limited pussy would really look like. - Yeah. And I think a bigger question is like, if she got unlimited pussy, do you got unlimited dick? - Ooh, you know what I'm saying? And I would say from my life experience, the answer is, no, I do not. - No, you, I mean, I thought you said limited. - No, do you have unlimited-- - Unlimited, unlimited. - No, it's very, when I was in that, you know, the-- - Lowercase L. - Yeah. - No. - When I was-- - That's what you called me. - Why are you mad at me? - I don't like when you say it back to me because it-- - It's your words. - It actually feels like-- - I learned about the concept of lowercase L from you. - Yes, but I will say there is a timeframe when you can have, you know, penis. It's not always, it's not always hard, you know? - I've learned that. - But pussy, which I don't like that word, I think. - Sure. - I'm like that. - I don't like saying it. - I mean, obviously, you can't call it a canal, but it's like-- - Can't call it a crevice. - A crevice, no, I'm not mad at crevice. - Okay, try that. (laughing) - Yo, listeners, I don't know the ages of everybody who listens to this, but if there's any young people who listen to this and is still trying to figure out which you got going on sexually and you're trying to send that sex out, don't say crevice. - Do not say crevice. - Not say crevice. I'm not gonna say I'm an expert at stuff to say when I'm sex, but I'll just say that's the wrong verbiage. Don't listen to Cindy, she leading you astray. - Whoa. - She leading you astray. - That fell homophobic. (laughing) - Oh man, man, we gotta get out of here, I feel so sad. - How we're is not enough. - And now is not enough, not for us, especially. - Not for us. - We could do a two hour episode, but Sid. - Truly. - We will have you come back with Marie. - Yeah. - Next time. - I would love that. - I feel like we'll have you come back with Marie. We're also gonna do a live episode. - Yes, and you have to lie about the time to both of us. - Yeah, yes, that's very true. I'm gonna tell y'all it's a smooth half hour before it, actually, it's supposed to be. - I'm gonna say it hour. - Yeah, four hour. Yeah, well, Cindy might be included in the live show. If y'all live in New York City, stay tuned. We're about to announce a live show. Anything you'd like to plug for the people before you get out of here. - Yes, I obviously want y'all to listen to mess, which is our podcast that Devon has been on. Yeah, it's on iHeart, big money players. You can listen to Spotify, subscribe to on YouTube. I'm on Instagram, just said BWJUST, S-Y-D, B-W. And for the people, I love comments. Leave comments. I just like when people tell me about me. - Good or bad? - Everybody who's listening, go in the comments. - Yeah, do it. - Go in the comments and let's have a conversation. - A dialogue. - Yeah, let's have a discourse. - Sometimes people be DMing me like comments and I'll be like, no, no, no. Do it in public. Do it in public for everybody, you know what I'm saying? - Yeah, let other people know you got things to say to me. - Exactly. - Okay. - Cindy, thank you so much for being here. We had a great time. And thank y'all for listening. - Thanks for having me. - Bye. - My favorite lyrics is a production by Discon app. If you guys like what you hear, leave a review and tell all of me about the show. And make sure to follow us at my favorite lyrics pod on all social platforms, except for Twitter, we offer that. You can learn more about this week's guest and the my favorite lyrics team by checking out the show's notes. And thank you to the guys that made this show happen. Executive producer Lauren Mandel, producer, Carmen Carrigan, our editor, Nicole Lyons, French podcast who engineered this episode. And yeah, that's all the people that I'm gonna thank for now.