Taylor Swift Announces Engagement | 68

I feel like there should be like trumpets, like trumpet, like da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. I, Taylor, take you, Killa Trav. That's kind of us. Who's Killa Trav? Me, of course. Look at my jacket. Sport. Ah, yeah, I guess. Yeah, yeah. It did have to give you one, so I was like, eh. Now you're looking at me like, yeah, it looks gay to me. That'll do. Yeah, thanks. Well, news broke yesterday on August 26th. Happens to be National Dog Day. Remy alerted me. Did she? She did. She said, anything to take attention to National Dog Day, actually. Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey announce their engagement. What was the caption? I just want to hear you say it. Your English teacher and your gym teacher are getting married. Totally. Do you think he approved that copy? Probably. I almost said, do you think he could read it? And I was like, that sounds mean. But we've established on this podcast that we love. We like dumb boys. This is a pro dumb jock himbo podcast. Yes, yes. Okay, Taylor engaged. How do you feel? I feel exactly how I felt when I didn't know they were engaged. I feel the same. He said, anyway, and kept scrolling. I'm happy for them. You know, I think, um, I'm treading carefully now. Why? Because they're mad at me. Who? Girl, the Taylor. The people? The Swifties. The Taylor. They're going to be mad at you again. The Taylor. The Swifties, girl. I don't know them like that. Well, one of them is in the room with you right now. Okay, well, I guess you're mad at me too then. Because all of a sudden, I'm like, uh, I thought we all agreed that he dresses better than she does most of the time. Oh, Trav? Yeah. Trav? Kill a Trav? So that, like, he's my guy? Like, he's my bro? Yeah. Oh, Trav? For sure. Deep? Yeah. No, and they, it's like so crazy how people are, you know, calling her everything but a child of God. I don't even care about this wedding that much. Under my tweet, they come to my page. And say, oh, there's another black woman who's mad that she can't be with Travis Kelsey. Oh, they're calling themselves widows because they want her to be with a, they want him to be the black woman again. He, like, oh, all the black women, all the black queens are mad because they've lost their white knight. I'm like, who said any of that? Wait, I did not realize that you were under attack, Hunter. I'm about to lock up my account. Wait, they're going to dox you again. You just got it. And now they're going to link you up with the kitty cats. And then what's going to happen to me? You're going to have to move again. I was really. Like, you think I'm after Killa Trav? No. You're not after Killa Trav, though? No. No, especially after I saw his little American Eagle ad where he has a new line with him called True Colors. T-R-U-K-O-L-O-R-S. Of course there's no E. Maybe I'm actually anti-literate king. Hold on. That's crazy. The True Colors was tough for me to see. Just visually, it is offensive to die. Wait, was that the same? Was that a follow up to Sidney Sweeney? Yeah. They just dropped Wednesday. Oh, they said white power. That is crazy. But no, but he has Suni Lee and other non-white people starting with him in the campaign. I mean, the clothes look, they look very HBCU friendly. I'll say that. Say more? It looks like something Spike Lee would wear with a little Morehouse logo on it. Stop. We're going to pass the mic. It's looking Spellhouse friendly. Well, I mean, that is how we thought it was going to end for Travis. I watched Catching Kelsey. And see, I did it. And yet they're casting me as a wannabe Kelsey catcher. I was going to catch a pass. I would do an interception. I wouldn't mind. He is very your type. Thank you, actually. Yeah, wait. No, that's completely accurate. Thank you takes it back, says, wait, you're so right. So how do you feel about them getting married? I'm actually really happy for them. Because I feel like Taylor has really been through it in terms of who she's by. And sometimes my choice. But like, and that's a woman's choice, her body, her choice. But I do think coming off of Maddie Healy. I don't even want to speak the name. I don't want to hear. Oh, gosh. And like thinking about like the, she really went, what was the term from the Bible that you'd be saying? Like equally yoked? No, through it to get to it. Is that like? God brings you through it to get you to it. Yes, that's what he did with Taylor Swift. And I think this is the closest we'll get. As I said to our good friend, Devin, this is the closest you'll get to an interracial relationship. And I think that's fine. Absolutely. Travis Colsey, first white man to go back. However, I do think, I think that there is something very like, it does make sense that they're together. Because like, what was the issue with her and Joe Alwyn? That he was like, you know, pretty humble, pretty low key, didn't like, you know, playing into like the Swifty fantasy of it all. Like he really wanted her. I mean, that's what the song Peace is about. I was going to say, is that why it didn't work out? Yes, because she, like the song Peace from Folklore is about like, I could never give you peace. I could never be like, I could never be like that girl that you kind of want me to be, which is like not necessarily docile, but like more humble. Yeah. He was like, just not with like the, you know, attention that her life draws. And she's just like me for real. I could never give you peace. Don't look. Stop. Look at me. So remember that. I think the tension in the Joe Alwyn relationship seems pretty clear from like stuff that she's said about it, about, you know, her being in the limelight and him being like British versus Jake Gyllenhaal, who's like, you know, narcissist, very like uncomfortable with her level of celebrity, like her eclipsing him versus like, I don't know anything about Calvin Harris, honestly. So we could keep it that way. Yeah. I know he needs to release another Funk Waves volume. Three. That's what he needs to be doing. But so I think that she and Travis Kelsey, they really both enjoy, I think, like this like fantasy that they're making in real time, which I appreciate. I do too. I love us. I love Razzle Dazzle. I love High School Musical. I love a song in the dance. I love a kickball change as we established on this podcast. Even like him going to her shows and like dancing on stage with her. It's like, oh yeah, they both like this stuff. Absolutely. And that is. And I like that for them. Like lovely. Yeah. I think very, as the Bible says, equally you. Okay. Well, we have to do, let me set something up really quickly. If you know Hunter Yvonne Harris, government name, one thing, never get, block Hunter before you get engaged. Because when I tell you this girl has at least 10,000 screenshots on deck from when people get engaged and a closeup shot of their nails and the ring and immediate feedback. She has sent me people I don't even know. Like, look at this. Who is this? Whose hand? Well, who are you to have a hangnail in your post and that's in your engagement? Now, why would you do that? And this is the thing. Oh, well, it's a surprise. No, it's not a surprise. Welcome to the ring. It's a reality. This is not a surprise. It should never be a surprise. Everyone who knows they're about to get engaged knows they're about to get engaged. And if you can't figure out how to get me to a nail salon days before the engagement. That's on you. We shouldn't be getting married. So we should not be getting married. What do you think of the nails? What do you think of the ring? No, no, no. Well, she did say she was collecting horcruxes to Time Magazine two or three years ago. And that ring looks like one. It looks like a horcrux. She adds to the collection. Good for her. But I did. I'm happy that it's not like so big and gaudy, I guess. Like the, you know, Lauren Sanchez Bezos ring. Like that one. I mean, I think my favorite celebrity ring right now is probably Zendaya's. I think that's like. Oh, I cannot picture what it looks like. It's just like a little bit more simple. Oh, cute. I guess I like that Taylor Swift's ring has like the kind of etching on the side. It looks very her, you know. People are calling it very anthropology core. I was like. But that's what she's always saying. Totally. No, I think. And I also feel like. The photo shoot was also very her. Well, yes. I want to point something out. I read this in the Times this morning. She was wearing a Ralph Lauren dress that was on sale. It was $396 down to $319, I believe. Louis Vuitton shoes. And that Cartier watch is where it really all started to fall apart for me. I did not like that watch. I thought it was way too flashy. And then he was also wearing a Ralph Lauren polo, which I was like. Okay, was it an ad? But good for them. Maybe. People were mad that she didn't tag the photographer. How do you feel about that? Absolutely. Oh, wait. No. No. I think in like a wedding announcement, like you don't need to. But I guess if you're Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey, it would be nice. But I'm sure he got paid because you were doing a job. Yeah. I don't like when that happens on editorial shoots. I get really, really angry when no one is tagged in editorial shoots. But this is their lives. Yeah. So like they don't need to credit. Also, it wouldn't surprise me if it was just like a person. Like some guy. Yeah. Like just someone who works at the house. Did you like the photos? I think it was shot. Where did you say? At his house. At his house. And that his dad said that they had gotten engaged two weeks ago. I'm not clear if they took the photos two weeks ago. But then people were like, you know how like, oh, he cut his hair like before like training day or whatever. So like they definitely had something with a haircut. Maybe it was after she went on the podcast. And they posted what day? They posted on Tuesday. August 26th. Which happens to be Blake Lively's birthday. Not to take it there, but. No, take it there. I was about to start doing some math to see if it somehow netted out to 13. But I was really bad at math. No, it's okay. Girls should not have to do math. I was actually, I was good at math. I haven't done math in years. We don't need to. And I'm happy about it. Anyway. I think it's happy that they got engaged in August. I think it's happy that they got engaged. I slept away like a moment in time. Anyway, I'm with them. I'm rocking with them. I'm rocking with Mark. Killer Trav. Killer Trav is rocking with us. Well, happy. I listened to Endgame this morning. I was happy about it. Anyway, what else are we talking about this week? In addition to Taylor Swift's engagement, we are handing out some summer superlatives. And we're doing a little. pop girl check-in mostly about madame lana del rey of course and then a few lesbians that we will throw in the mix totally so let me just say this let me say this are you looking for a home for your worst opinion are you a hater first but a lover of pop culture second consider this a glorified group chat but we're not calling you out no no we're calling you in it's a safe space to talk shit but of course from wondery i'm peyton dicks and i'm hunter harris and this is let me say this let me say this i cannot tell you the joy in my face when i opened the weather app this morning and i saw a crisp 66 degrees here we go it's that time baby it's fall don't touch me i feel myself shrinking i feel like the witch at the end of we teach we teach leos to shrink themselves and we unfortunately yes we do number one season comes around and they come out with a ruler that's the teaching in the schools right now we thought coming toward toward the end of summer i won't say it's the end of summer as you know summer extends until october 31st for some people this is the hunter calendar yeah yeah totally um so we thought it would be fun to do a few summer superlatives i don't know if it's a good idea to do a summer superlatives would you say that we were basing this off of like the culture's opinion or our very me me who's that she put on this little gold chain she said oh it's me that was someone's gonna get you for that it won't be me because i also went to private school but someone is gonna get you oh my god okay what's our first category movie of the summer okay movie the summer for you for me and the culture you already know what considering the breaking news that we are yes getting a sequel of k-pop demon hunters huntrix hive huntrix hive yes yeah i'll claim that one too as well i actually don't like how this movie has empowered you in the wrong ways but that was my k-pop demon hunters honestly criterion i i i agree and i have i'm honestly surprised you haven't like texted me a million times about going to a sing-along screening because but they are mostly sold out well you know i actually like that's actually not my thing because i'm the star and i think if i went in one of those and i heard someone else out belting it would be just like that that singer we the singing that we saw and the girl behind us the girl behind the microphone ariana grande over there was really singing i was like yes i hate that we went to emerson college okay like life was a sing-along for four years we don't need to do more of it i remember truly being at oriented or pulling up first day of drop off yeah and being like i think i actually should stay in the car i think i i don't think this is gonna be it no there's too much singing and dancing already wait um what's yours what's your movie okay just shoot me materialists unfortunately but no one has there's been no more discourse about any movie than materialists for better or worse and i think i'm gonna say for better no okay for better i love something that we can talk about you can go to a bar meet someone new be like oh materialist and they're like they're responsible if they need to know meet someone new that was so earnest i love actually no i i really think that like this movie has sparked a lot of discourse especially about like the poverty yes there are other ways to say that there are other ways to say that there are other ways i was like being working class in new york city as a out-of-work actor doesn't want to do commercials yeah um but has very nice veneers yeah about the you know the height stuff i think that just people thinking you interrogating more like their taste in in partners um again materialist was like actually a complete like not execution of like all the things that selene song has said about the movie i couldn't agree but i think the the way she talks about it is like really interesting yeah um and it has prompt a lot of interesting conversations um okay next category okay song of the summer hotly contested hotly contested you've been saying so many things in fun inflections today i love the character work you brought to this podcast what can i say i'm on go mode hunter is late was like i was on go mode i was like but you were late wait no i was going through the streets okay song of the summer song of the summer my and there's my answer and there's culture's answer actually they're both my answers okay one is um friend of mine by rihanna from the smurfs soundtrack oh okay have you listened to it yeah i have it goes up i was on um drugs the first time i listened to it so it really imprinted on me in a in a beautiful way but i love that song it's so good even though it's one lyric repeated but second okay walk with me hold my you won't it's fine okay i came into a musical recently called hamilton oh gosh and i've never seen hamilton ever but i listened to satisfied wait so you're just like i've never seen hamilton just really ill by the way if that's not clear but yeah i did i pressed play and i was like this is an amazing song and i'm off book on it and i was like this it's me now in 2025 is like i love hamilton honestly i i've never seen hamilton i've listened to the music it's not my thing however you you saw me during stereophonic winter spring summer and fall oh and did end up in my top five artists of the year yes well we might need to make a hitchhike on down the street to hamilton we're bringing hamilton back yeah that's what that's what i'm doing that is so funny um actually sort of similarly um my song of the summer for the record-breaking 11th year in a row is um pitbull and neo's classic time of our lives because i knew my room was going to be late about a week ago for the 11th year in a row is great you said and i'm standing on business because no one else have you ever heard that song it's a perfect song pitbull is my man i've been listening to it dive for him it goes i honestly i hope that that song plays at taylor swift and travel killa travis wedding oh it is it's a good perfect wedding reception yeah yeah um yeah it just like it really gets me started i'll also say euphoria as always well naturally i'm sure off book on both okay wait next up okay hunter who is your benefit of the summer it really is nicolandria say more because okay i this has hit me harder than the towers ace was on a podcast with a man first mistake and he's like nicolandria isn't real when did he say that that's actually it just i just uh broke today yeah and it has really you it hurt that it hurt me and but what is more benefit than you know people not really knowing what what is going on people hoping for the best but bracing for the worst that's okay for me i think of benefit is just getting back together and breaking up over and over and over again which i hope is not the case for nicolandria no well i mean hello benefit uh ben affleck not going to the met gala where jayla was a co-host and she's like scaparelli reporter again the character work you have been 20 different people up in here united states of tara boots if you watch that show it's fantastic by the way i did have like truly three sips of uh a one-shot americano and i thought i said it was gonna be iced and they gave it to me hot and i and then you came in here hot no and i literally i was like i can't even drink this it's like disgusting to me to drink hot coffee i'm sorry um okay so who's your benefit of the summer or just couple yeah my couple again where you don't know what's going on with them i think i think oh this is a perfect one yeah my couple of the summer is page and az i thought you were an ally oh you want to come with me to the liberty game oh look at this behavior um page can i learn who they are first oh my god i'm at the table use a pen and paper ready but they are um they were teammates and they played at uconn together and there were suspicions about them being together for a long time which of course is a little bit weird with people in college like they're too young for that um but page also she's like the star athlete she's like killing it this is page page wecker weckers weckers weckers okay i don't know white people they'd be doing stuff with their names but i love it um but she is like an incredible incredible player pages like who who caitlyn clark thought she was yeah so i want to keep seeing those deals come in for page right now actually um but they had a lot of suspicions around their relationship and their friendship and what people were worried about was page grew up really religious so people were like she's never going to come out and like that's going to suck for her but she's wearing like three-piece suits to the draft and it's kind of like well you've done it you're out the closet door is busted down it was shambles everywhere so i do think not only is it so great that page is out specifically but it's so cute that she's dating her former co-worker bestie if you will okay i need a super cut of every time i talk about something gay hunter goes mm-hmm it's very yep what do you want me to do no put her back in the closet thank you for educating me i appreciate it i did not know about page and and azzy i gotta we gotta get a lesbian on this next guest gotta be a dyke somebody has to be a dyke okay who's who oh wait you said yours yeah yeah nicole andrea i okay i mean maybe just andrea solo and maybe just nick solo i like them together or apart either one wait actually this is not quite a couple of the summer but how do you feel about zoe kravitz and uh harry styles being seen together holding hands that means nothing to me harry styles and or uh zoe kravitz and austin butler however i wish i don't think that's happening those photos of her um walking the carpet with him like those photos of her abs i was like let me save that to my gym inspo folder yeah right now uh he's like wow um but you know i don't of course i know it's mostly just like workouts that i want to do um but i don't like her bangs oh yeah you've been you've been dying to talk about that for a fucking hot minute it's only been on close friends for now it's my close friends exclusive now it's on a podcast but i really don't like the bangs and i'm happy that for the premiere she she tucked that bang in okay next up book of the summer i'm really split between two okay um the two favorite books i read this summer were the great black hope by rob franklin yeah um really like on a prose level really wonderful and amazing um and then katie kirimura audition i think that came out this summer um but it's like her fall up to intimacies and it's i i think it's like really a rorschach test for like how you think about actors and like uh performance and any of this stuff but i i really loved it oh and what's your book of the summer let me guess say it with me three two one the artist's way i'm getting my 10 check peyton dicks 10 off juliet cameron is like she's trying to escape the prison of me she's typing up a cease and desist right now suddenly the book is unavailable to order she said stop it stop all shipments to new york city please and la my coastal um but it is my finished artist way this summer it's an iconic book we gotta say wait what did i just say did i say the artist way yeah they said okay oh my god i had an aneurysm um and if you sorry don't keep i keep it in if you did the artist way from this year podcast send me you know send me a message tell me what you learned someone texted me yesterday talking about a fucking peyton got me to me to do the artist way she's like i hate these morning pages shout out to miriam um but i was like wow that's crazy and now i'm doing it too so i guess and then i want a super cut of that too every time hunter oh here we go oh the artist way hunter now like oh i didn't get to finish my morning pages so i don't know if i'm feeling as yeah yeah yeah give me that cut okay who lost the summer who lost the summer my patience um i'm gonna say i don't know actually who lost the summer i think america for how we acted about love island oh very that was a losing love was a losing game yeah for sure um yes or i'm gonna say zach with a k i just oh gosh no he got his points back though when he was laid out live on the reunion he didn't get anything from me i said close the door ushers close the doors keep him out i cannot i cannot handle them um who won the summer who won the summer my winner of the summer and i hope my winner of the fall zoron mamdani my god yeah yeah take that cuomo bring this back bring back an l on the forehead i love an l on the forehead oh my gosh that's that's big w the summer for me it's a big l on the forehead i love it um okay my winner of the summer they're gonna get mad at me but bieber i think bieber won the summer he said all this all this mumbling broke people should never laugh off into his yukon no i thought i thought he did a good job you were such a proud parent a proud partner sorry of your man i thought i did a good job i did i did well he stood on business and he gave us a good album and is it even clucking to you it clocked to me it's done it's it's been clocked okay we come to this place for magic and i mean i come to this podcast to learn something new every week what a reach um because i have no idea what's going on with lana ethel and nikki i saw some murmurings and i said hunter will do me the honors why don't you go ahead i'm so lucky to share this information with you okay let's begin at the beginning so lana del rey like posted a video of her riding in the car um with a clip of like a new new material that she called i think she called it track 13 yes and it had the line ethel kane hated my instagram post thinking think it's cute reacting my chicago pose and like the lana del rey fans yeah have like been talking about this the existence of like a lot of an ethel kane diss track for like at least a year according to like what i saw on reddit because they have like a mutual ex and his name is jack donahue the cover of the band salem no he'll we'll get to him okay we'll get to him oh he comes up oh god no he doesn't okay um but so another another line in this song uh lana del rey sings the most famous girl in the waffle house i don't regret it and people think that's a reference to um a 2022 new york times profile of ethel kane written by joe coscarelli and that was a headline and like the photos the photos were like of ethel kane in a waffle house did she work at a waffle house i don't know i don't know i don't know um and then later lana del rey was spotted at a waffle house taking up a shift of course that's in real life um that's in real life then people were like asking about in a comment on a pop-based post words that are not in the bible um lana said quote i didn't know who ethel was until a few years ago when someone brought to my attention the disturbing and graphic side-by-side images she would often put up of me next to unflattering creatures and cartoon characters making constant comments about my weight i was confused at what she was getting at it's not clear what she was talking about and then she said um then when i heard that she was saying behind closed doors from mutual friends and started inserting herself into my personal life i was definitely disturbed and i hope you acknowledge that as a whitney houston i was disturbed blind reading um and then character number 45 keep going ethel kane said like on her own instagram story she posted update on it already has blocked ethel kane on instagram yes so how the fuck is nikki minaj involved well you know this sounds like white people's business you know she loves me online girl she loves me clicking those keys girl and so i guess you just saw like the clip of lana and she posted i've been singing ethel kane hated my instagram post all morning help with a lot of exclamation points oh no and then she was like i love this song who is ethel kane she said i don't even know who ethel kane is and then barbs tagged her and uh in a photo that ethel kane like oh yeah had the barb uh flag at um a show and nikki said is this real like something like all love to ethel or something like that like she's like really not taking a side and then she did um of course bring up one of my favorite moments of lana del rey lore which is her question for the culture of course she said why is it that you know romance always like about abuse and in reality i'm just a glamorous person wait did did nikki was nikki mentioned in that in the question for the culture uh maybe oh i was like one of the other contemporaries but you know it's like it's really the grim reaper rat tat tatting on the doors because everyone she's mentioned got got got got that's crazy has been affected in some way but i just love the idea of thinking about nikki minaj listening to like american teenager actually i could no i can hear you i could really see it i could see her i could see her rapping over it i honestly that would be kind of an excellent collab yeah but actually i need nikki to focus on other things we gotta like getting well and divorcing her husband yeah maybe let's start there a little a little dot just went right on your forehead i know i know they're gonna get me my address both of our addresses are gonna be leaked by the end of this episode listen you know i love me some lana girl i do what are your what are your favorite lana eras oh god that's hard i mean i i love the lolita-ness about her i don't i someone's gotta do it some woman out there has got to do it and it's her and that one that cooks for lucky blue smith um another dot just landed on my forehead by the way okay um favorite lana del rey eras uh of course number three when she had a question for the culture and then and then when ending there but just to turn a phrase question for the culture no and and i remember truly waking up seeing that post and how it was like the typeface that it was like truly written on a damn typewriter i was like girl i don't know what you're talking about i don't know what you're it is literally a pandemic outside why are you trying to start wars and she goes yeah queen okay number two when she made minimum wage at waffle house of course um number one when she was sarah paulson what exactly that's for us that's for us that's for us is that like that's all you need to know okay what are your top three moments do you not know that really there's like this running ongoing like he someone mixed sarah paulson up with lana del rey and it's been an ongoing thing it's very um uh girl that's kiki palmer and like this is my cousin it's like a white version of that but sarah paulson and lana del rey anyway that's funny what are your top three lana moments okay um number, I'm going to say number three is in the question for the culture when she's like defending herself. And she says, well, in reality, I'm just a glamorous person. Like what a funny way to describe yourself. And she's not wrong. That's really the tea is that she was completely right. She is just a glamorous person living in a swamp now, but yes, totally. Yeah. Okay. Speaking of that, when she dated that cop from Tulsa, Oklahoma, and she wore what I swear to God was a dress, a mother of the bride dress from Dillard's in 2020 to the Grammys. Oh my God. Yes. And I swear she purchased it at the Woodland Hills Mall. Yes. Where I had many a fight with my mother and my aunt and by myself, damn near. Quick question on that. Is the cop the same as the guy or are they different? Different. Oh, different. And then also I can't remember which album this was pegged to, but after she and the cop broke up, um, she put one lone billboard promoting her album and it was on Mingo where he had to drive going to and from work. That is so you, Cody. I said, oh, you want to be what it's a Evan Nicole Brown quote. You want to be funny? I'll be hilarious. Yeah, that's crazy. I, yes, yes. Love that. And then just the way this woman has with words when she, someone she's like, it's like a fan video and she's signing autographs and she looks at this girl's wrist and she said, oh, you chopping it up. Sometimes I just, in the middle of the day, it's so she's, but the way that she literally is like, almost like, like, like, I don't know, just like a little bit like, oh, you chopping it up, chopping it up. Like, like as if like, true. What's your name again? Making a chopped cheese. Like, yeah, she is, she will be in another era. Long ago, right? She will never be anyone but herself. And I appreciate that because what did she tell the fader that one time? I'm just in Starbucks talking shit all day. And I, I love a woman who knows who she is. Her and Nikki would get along, I think. Totally, they would get along. They have a lot in common. Holy shit. You two, actually, the three of y'all need to meet up. You, oh, you don't, oh, you hate to gossip now? You wake up on influencer snark. Come on. Wrap it up. Not too much. Catch, catch all eyes here. Okay. On another side of the internet that I don't really frequent, said with love. In fact, you had a bit blocked. None of that gay shit on my timeline. Sorry. Sorry. I'm an ally. She is, she is. And that's why I'm asking, who is Betty who? Yeah. And what do I need to know about this person? Literally, Betty who? Okay. Here's the TLDR before I get to Betty of what you need to know is what you talked about on this podcast before. Jojo Siwa, dating a guy right now. Fletcher, another kind of who? Dating a guy right now, but known lesbian pop star. Pop star in quotation marks. Oh, I thought you couldn't see my hands. But I realized there's a wide shot. Oh, they got me. And then who else? There's another lesbian dating a man. Renee. Oh, well, not a lesbian, but Billie Eilish is dating a guy right now. I think that Naked Brothers band boy. And then in conversation with this, Renee Rapp semi-recently has been like, I'm a lesbian. I'm not bi anymore. Like that is firm and that's a big choice. With that knowledge, Betty who is an Australian singer, pop girl, matters to a lot of like gay boys and Bushwicks. She's just not my, my church. Not my steeplechase. Not my steeplechase. She went on a podcast and she talked about the fact that a lot of lesbians, queer women are in hetero relationships, which is a very sensitive subject. And now the bisexuals and lesbians, they do kind of have guns pointed at each other. Hunter. Oh God. She's like, and which one are you? Like, are you safe? I'm like, I'm straight now. No, I know you hunting wives. You're safe. I know you're packing that metal. Yeah. I know you're safe. From the bi allegations. Yeah. Oh, I was, I'm so open on this podcast. Um, anyway, Betty who, um, is now like under fire from a lot of lesbians because she was like, listen, like for an A rap, which like in 10 years decides to date a guy again, you know, like I'm with her, I stand with her. And it's fine of course to date a guy. I think there's just a lot of discourse right now. And Betty who's conversation has only made it worse about the fact that, um, the word lesbian is used and then kind of stripped away from people because they're like, oh wait, like I'm actually bi. And a lot of lesbians feel like it's, like, oh, you're using that as a marketing tactic, which isn't true. I think for a lot of these people, even Jojo Siwa, who we have said her brain is developing, she is 21, maybe 22. Everyone's queer at 21, 22. You're all just figuring it out. Like you were all scissoring at 21, you know? Um, right. Anyway, I'm just like, don't put that curse on me devil. But, um, I just feel like there's a lot of animosity that's being formed around this conversation, even though the real point, here's the real point, is like, be queer, do what you want. That's fine. But right now it is not like we need to be holding space for how difficult it is to be in a heteronormative relationship. Like feeling like under attack by being in a straight relationship. And I think Betty who taking it on a little bit as like a plight is a problem, but her dating a guy for 11 years, I didn't even know she had a man for 11 years. And she was looking real gay. She had like a undercut and like a straight girl. What did Janelle Monáe have to, like, what do you call that? I don't even know who we're talking about right now. Betty who? Betty who? Do you know Janelle Monáe though? Yeah. Okay. That's like her tether, but the white. Okay. I like a little pompadour. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. And you think you're, you got to be queer. I grew up in the church. Pompadour City. Pompadour. Yeah. Yeah. Many lesbians probably in that church. But it was just like, you know, she can be queer. She can date this guy, but to treat it like it is like this hardship in 2025. Is a bit of an issue. And so I'm going to disagree with you there. Actually, I think dating a man is a hardship in any era, in any time, in every timeline. I did say I owed a lot of apologies to my heterosexual sisters. I said I had one summer and said, lock the door. Never the fuck mind. I'm done. But sometimes a lesbian needs to go through that, you know, and then you say, oh, sorry, that was crazy. Totally. But Godspeed to you. I'm sorry. I feel like the woman's a set of Popeyes, girl. It's hard. Hard out here. Yes. Yes. Well, whenever you are ready to be, bye. Come on. I didn't know I was scissoring at 21. You were. You were doing it and you didn't even know. Let me just tell you that. A lot of you were. Yeah. And I'll name them. No. Anyway, that's my lesbian pop white girl update. Thank you so much. You're welcome. Thank you so much. We're putting live on the scene. I love it. Thank you. Okay. We almost talked about the Amanda Noggs. Mini series. Mini series. But instead we lost time and space to what? The video of the tourist in Venice. Mm hmm. She got a pickpocket. I can't even say it. Grabbed the ponytail. Iron grip. Of the pickpocket, allegedly. And. I think she did it. Release me. Release me. Release me. You can't even get. Okay. Let me. I literally got to record. I'm just crying laughing. The little girl is like, police, police, police. And what does she say? You're not going to bother. No. She says, little girl, you're not going to bother me. I have eight kids. She said, keep it up. Get the police here. We don't care. The way for a woman of a certain age to call you a little girl. Miss Hannigan boots tease the house down. No, no, no. She was white knuckling that thin ponytail. It was crazy. You have to call her a thing. Lord have mercy. Like BB Bridgers in one track would do a lot. But also eight kids, bitch. That's great. Yeah. You can't get shit by her. No. She was like, I'm not the one or the two or the eight or the nine. She said, I am the zero. I'm not the one. That video was crazy. Yeah. It really woke me up. Really woke you. It really did. You didn't need that Americano. You got this. I was asleep for the rest of the night. I didn't get to the wheel until I saw that woman. The way she looks around, she truly is not, she has a full armor of God on. I wish we could play the audio. It's so good. You're not going to get to me, little girl. White mom. The way the girl just goes full to scream. You know how some kids, they love to do that stuff. They're like, ah. And adults sometimes. And they are often, you know. Or. That was you. Biracial is what I was trying to say. Yeah, I got it. Put a ring on. I don't want to say that. No, I knew you. Okay. No, I. Oh, you saw. We see each other. Yeah, I heard that thing. I saw it as biracial. Oh, okay. Thank you. I just want to make sure it read. Yeah. Just make sure it landed. And you know what? That's it for this week. As usual, we are too online. Very much too much online. We should log off. So you don't have to be. Wish I could. I wish Taylor Swift and Killa Trav, Mrs. Killa Trav, Mr. and Mrs. Killa Trav, the best. Oh, that's sweet. And Betty Who, if you're out there, if you're listening, call me because we're going to get you a better PR team, girl. That's it. Lesbians, bisexuals, girls, all of them. Call me, too. I'm going to mediate. All right. We're going to get this settled for once and for all. Follow us on socials at Let Me Say This Pod, at Peyton Dix, and at Hunter H. Let Me Say This is hosted by me, Hunter Harris. And me, Peyton Dix. Let Me Say This is a production of Wondery. 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