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Täällä on järjestelmässä, että se on järjestelmässä, että se on järjestelmässä. Lanching the Lemons Foundation and co-hosting the Squeeze Podcast, where she and Taylor have honest conversations about relationships, anxiety, and personal growth. The internet is such a scary place to have kids if we go out. Someone's going to take a photo of our baby. There's just so many little thoughts like that. We talk with Tay about getting pregnant by surprise, navigating body image changes, and protecting her future child's privacy all on today's episode. Tay Lautner, welcome back to the unplanned podcast. It's an honor. It's so fun. We're going to give you a brief applause. Are people still mispronouncing your last name? I don't really care how it is said or done. I'm really, um, I'm indifferent because people will, I think, just say it, like incorrectly for forever, but my husband has never corrected anyone until, like, a couple years ago. So, um, yeah, it still happens, but I really don't care. But that was, like, groundbreaking news. No, no, it was. I know. Like every news outlet covered that. I think when Taylor went on call her daddy, that was like a really big thing. Again, all the news was like, we're pronouncing Taylor's name wrong. Red alert. Everybody needs to know. No, she was actually never concerned. Yeah. Literally, like, didn't care. He's also like, but I think just is so nice. And it's just like not confrontational with that because he's like not going to want to, like, correct someone because you could say it. It's technically, like, you could say either way, like pronunciation wise. So, yeah, I know. People, my favorite is when people come up and they say a lot in there. Like, I know that's not how you say it, but I can't remember how to say it correctly. I'm like, it's totally fine. Oh, people actually say that. Oh, yeah. No, people have, like, walked in and like, wait, no, that's not right. But I know I can't remember what it is. I'm not going to like even now, like even saying your name. I'm like, I need to like really think through this because it just, it, yeah, it's, it doesn't, I think Lawton and just, because Blake, we've said, I mean, I, that's what I used to call Taylor also. So, like, I think it just rolls off the tongue easier because we, that's all we know. When did you find out that you were pronouncing your own last name? I know. I think when I, when I met his sister, I think that she probably said it the correct way to me. Yeah, I know. I know. That was probably, that was probably when. Which is, that's cool that you and Taylor's sister are such good friends, right? Yeah. Like, that's why this, that's why you guys connect it, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's how she, um, she introduced us and how she's just a cute little mom and two in Nashville living her mom life. It's literally like the most fun thing. That's awesome. Well, a congratulations is in order for you as well. Thanks. Taylor is now pregnant or Tay? There's a little babe in there. That's so ex, do you feel kicks? I actually was feeling them early. Yeah, I've finally like really started to feel them, which is like so crazy. Yeah, because you're, Debbie said how far along you are? I'm like a little past halfway. Oh, yeah, I'm saying. No, I definitely am like starting to feel stuff. I think I was feeling stuff earlier, but it's kind of hard to like differentiate. I think also because it's my first like what is a kick and what's like not like gas or something. Can you, there's a lot of gas happening there. There's a lot of movement in there. Um, yeah, then I've started to feel kicks, which is like so crazy. You might not know this, but with my first, I had a posterior placenta and my first had anterior. Is there any chance it's anterior or I think this is, I think I have a posterior. Oh, okay. Yeah, that's why I can feel them, right? Okay. Yeah, I think that's right. Because I had with my anterior one, I didn't feel them early on. Like it took like a little like past 20 weeks. Yeah. But by the day that dude could really kick through that thing. So I was like, it doesn't always mean that you're not going to feel anything. But yeah, it's fun. It's fun to feel kicks, especially at this stage, where you're like, okay, you're not actually killing me right now. But then sometimes, sometimes they get crazy, sometimes you're wild, or maybe you could just have a little chill baby. Yeah. So I listen to your announcement podcast, talking about all things pregnancy. And I find it, I found it really interesting. Just the fact that you were having to keep it a secret and you, you wanted to be able to announce the pregnancy on your own terms. Was there ever a moment where you thought that maybe like somebody figured it out? Or something? Yeah. Definitely. Every time I would go to my OB's office or go to an urgent care or something, I definitely would get nervous. I mean, especially going to my OB, because Taylor has come with me to every appointment. And so people in the waiting room would be like, oh, why are they both going in there? Like that would definitely like, that concerned me. And I also put on a lot of weight, I think, quicker than I was expecting, because during my first trimester, I like, I have a metaphobia, and I'm like terrified of throwing up. Like I hate. Oh, that's enough cold. Uh-huh. Yeah. So I, every time I was nauseous, I ate food. And it was just, I had the worst food version, so it was just like carbs. So I gained like 12 to 15 pounds of like two and a half week, and I was waking up three times in the night eating food. So I had put on weight, and you could like guess, I was like, my family was like, not surprised, I was pregnant, because like, you could tell, because I had gained weight, I was scared that people were going to like figure it out when I was going in to my OB appointments. But yeah, that was just, I think, I think I was just a little scarred, because our wedding, there was someone that like had a really long lens camera and like took photos of our, like first look, and posted them like the day after our wedding, it was like on a daily mail. I know. I cried. It was rough. Yeah. That was not a fun thing for me. Um, really? Cause it's just like, that was the first time it really felt like an invasion of privacy for me. Yeah. Cause like, you know, people, like we leave the grocery store, like we left the grocery store yesterday, and there's like, someone in their car taking photos and you see on the internet. Like, that's fine. Like, out in public. Yeah. Like really just like felt icky, like it just did not feel good. So I think that kind of just put a bad taste in my mouth. So how do they even explain for someone that like doesn't know how this works? How did they know that it was happening? How did they like have the right lens to then like spy on you and take a photo from who knows how far away? I, you know, there's many reasons why I think people knew that we were getting married. Um, you know, some people like to make a quick buck and sell something to someone to go take a photo, basically someone called a photographer or called someone and a photographer that just came with his stuff out of long lens and shot us from like the other side of the road. So is that how this works? Like the photographer is making money and selling it to like TMZ or whoever. Okay. That, that's interesting. We've only one time ever had like a paparazzi experience and that was at the iHeartRadio Music Awards. Yeah. And now we need time. You're like signing up for it. Yeah. Yeah. Which we knew was going to happen. But it's interesting. This world is like new, like still very new to us because now anytime there's like an article about Abby or I, and they always use the same image because they, I guess, they bought it from the photographer's folder. Yeah. Once it's like in Getty, like people can buy it and then they'll just like reuse it. And there's just some, I don't even know fully how it works, but I do know that there's, like I have one photo of me and I know Taylor has one photo of him that keeps, can he be used? And we both hate the photos of ourselves and we're like, we got to like get a new photo in there. But yeah. That's basically how it works. Wait. Why do you hate this photo? I just don't, I don't know why Taylor doesn't like his, but I just like, not a great photo of me. So I'm just like, I have like a better photos on the internet. So like given that I post, yeah, take one from my feed. You can use that. However you want. Okay. I'm so curious. How did you find out you were pregnant? I was not expecting it. We had a scare, which I've talked about last January, I had a scare that I was pregnant and it actually just was because I had switched birth controls and ended up not being a pregnancy. But after that, I woke up the next morning after thinking I was pregnant and I was, wasn't pregnant and I was sad. Like it was the first thing I thought when I woke up was, I'm sad I'm not pregnant. And I was like, oh, okay, now I know I'm ready. So yeah, like basically a year later, I have PCOS, so my periods are not regular. So and I'd been off of birth control at that point for a while, but I, yeah, I just was not paying attention to things because with your regular periods, I feel like you just don't ever. But I also was like, you know, if it happens, it happens, we've been together long enough. Yeah. It's definitely time. It was, it was a surprise for sure. We weren't. Oh, it was a surprise. Yeah, we weren't actively. It wasn't tracking. No way. So doing all the things. Which is great. Honestly, like I'm so thankful now because I don't think I would have been able to like make the decision to be like, I'm ready to start trying because my cutoff was always like,
turn 30. That's when I'll try. Okay. So I'm happy that it didn't have to make that decision because I feel like I would have turned 30 and been like, "You're 49, right?" Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So I feel like I would have been like, "Oh, one more year, one more year." So, yeah. Is it hard? It's probably nearly impossible to track, too, with PCOS. The Or Ring helps. Okay. Because I actually was ovulating at the time of consumption, which is how it works. But no, it does work. Because now it can track maybe like six months to a year. It's been able to like track it in the app. And I've had my ring for, I just found out two years. I'm obsessed with this freaking thing. Yeah, you know with natural cycles. I actually don't. I have done natural cycles before, but I haven't linked it, mainly because I just wasn't. I think if I was trying, I would have probably done it. But it always just like tracks your body temperature, right? Very cool. Yeah. So my, yeah, I just use my ring. So it kind of, it does kind of help. But I feel like with PCOS it's hard to like, no, fully what's happening. It sounds like you got up birth control. So like, was this, was it right away? And you were like, "Oh my gosh, this just like happened, or were you tracking for a while?" No, I had, I had been off of my birth control for, I've been off of it. I think I went off of it like last May. And that's actually how I ended up getting diagnosed with PCOS. Because I had been on birth control for like 10 years. So I basically, you're that so often. I basically like got my period and then I went on birth control because I danced in high school. And I would have really bad back cramps. And so I was just like, I need to like, I can't be having this. Yeah. So, and then there's not really like, at that time, they're not really thinking about, you know, all the things we know about birth control now. But I had just been on it for so long. And so I was just, at one point, I was like, okay, I think I'm just like, I need to get this like out of my body. Like what, what even is like my normal cycle? What is my normal like, hormonal levels without this in me? So, yeah, I went off of it like, middle of last year. And then I started having irregular periods and then got the string of pearls thing and got the PCOS diagnosis from that. Yeah. With not getting pregnant right away, like, I remember when, when we got up birth control, Abby was just like taking tests right away. Wasn't he a part of you doing that and, and you know, trying to figure out, oh, my pregnant, is this gonna happen? Yeah. No, not because I, I know because I wasn't just, I wasn't in the mindset of tracking it. I know a couple of my girlfriends have done like, one of them was doing like, she decided she wanted to get pregnant and then started doing the ovulation test and then did it and then she got pregnant like literally right after. But no, I had an even like, thought about it. I just like, yeah, I just was not even, it was just was not even on my radar, which is like, you're thrown into the first trigmaster. Uh-huh. How was that? You've been open about like, it was like, not necessarily like, it easy first trigmaster. Yeah. No, I definitely was not prepared for it because I think you just hear like, oh, you had morning sickness. Like, and that's what you think, like first trigmasters, but there's so many more symptom. Basically, I've said, everything you could possibly think of is a symptom. But yeah, I was basically like, down bad for a month of, I mean, I didn't throw up thankfully. There was times where I just wish I could throw up because I was like, I know I'll feel better after this. But I, my body was like, no, we're not, we're not doing that today. But I just had, I had no energy. I like couldn't think. I was so nauseous all the time. I had the worst acid reflex and the gas fan and, um, like, hormonally, I just felt off because I had gained weight so much, so fast, I just like, wasn't, I didn't feel like I was in my body. Like, I felt like, just like, weird in my own skin. Um, and there was just so many things that I think because we're supposed to keep that stage private. That was hard for me, but I ended up telling, um, a few of my girlfriends and then they told me that they were also pregnant. So it actually ended up working out so well that I was able to walk through my first trimester with other pregnant moms because like, you know, my husband's great and my, my girlfriends are great and I have such good support around me. But it is different, like, just having a female that is pregnant to, like, talk to and, like, go through that in that moment, like, you're experiencing the same things. So that was such a huge help for me because, yeah, I just was like, I could not do anything. I just, like, laid on the couch and it was so frustrating because I like doing things. So, like, even just cleaning the house. Who had the best reaction to you telling them that you're pregnant? Did anybody just, like, freak out, like, start crying? Maybe my parents, I'm an only child, so my parents were very, very, very excited. They're, I mean, they're still, like, over the moon. They've been ready. When Taylor and I got engaged with my dad, like, signed our little card and just wrote grandkids, heart, dad. That's like all he wrote. So he's been, he's been, it's him especially, has been really itching, um, for a little grand baby. So your dad, yeah, I know, I love him. He's the best. I'm my, both my parents are the best, but are they close? Yeah. Okay. That's great. Yeah. Getting to, like, share that moment with them was really cool. Like, I just had never, I've never really, like, experienced anything like that before. It was, it was really, it was really special. It was like, I'm so excited to be a grandma. He's like, I'm like, you're sick of me. Like, are you talking about this? But I'm just like, I always love what you'll talk. I'll be lolly. Sure, he has her names picked out. But then I can't pan it, because I'm like, I don't want to put this pressure on our kids that they have to have kids, but gosh, I'll just tell it to you all the time. I think there's a way to do it where it's like, I think my parents actually did a really good job at that, because I never felt pressured from them. Okay. But you knew they would be so happy. Yeah. No, I knew they were like, okay, like, whatever you want. Like, we're ready. Like, it was never, they were never like, okay, so like, what's taking you so long? There was never any, like, pressure or any, like, forcefulness around it. They were just like, they love, they love, like, I used to nanny. And so the little girl that I nanny'd, I would bring over to the house and hang with them. 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Controversial question, are you guys doing a gender reveal? You know, those are everybody has their take on what they think about those these days. Yeah. Yeah. No, we we've done some stuff in private. I think everyone's like to each their own about it because whenever, whenever people want to do like some people love having, you know, all the friends of family over and popping stuff and that we did do that. That stresses that stresses me out. But like, I love going to those things and like being a part of that. So I mean, that's just whatever like anyone. I think the internet is like way too harsh on people like with what they want to do for their gender reveals. I think people just are too chronically online these days. It's not true, like it really, really far and they're like, well, this is a little there. There have been some wild ones and I get that and that's really that people get mad about it though on the flip side. You're like that actually make you mad. Yeah. Yeah, we I've seen the ones where it's like, there's like a giant box in the box opens and it's like pink balloons and like a pink like rolls Royce or some like nice car in the giant box. I've seen a couple of those videos. I'm like, if I were to do a gender reveal, then that's what I would want. That would be cool. I will take a car to that. Thank you. You already got a three-row vehicle. I mean, you have a mom car already, right? Like, yeah. Okay, that's awesome. I've been slow to getting Abby's mom car. Sorry, man. That's two kids, man. We have a two, we have two, we have two two-row vehicles. I was just kidding. Yeah, we see the third row. Did you do the early test? If you remember me asking, or did you just wait till right now? We ended up waiting. We we were told about the early test when we were in the when we were at the appointment and she was like, do you guys want to know? And we were like, wait, no, I don't I don't know if we want to know. So then we didn't do the test. But then we went back and we're like, okay, we want to know. She's like, well, we didn't
into the test and I was like, "Oh, okay, I get it." Like I did, like, pro, 'cause every time I go in, like they draw my blood. So I was like, "Oh, I didn't think through that they technically needed my okay to do the test." - Yeah, that's, you know, like I didn't think it through. - You're like, "Well, run it again. "Don't do it again. "How do you feel about the needles and stuff?" I know some people, they're first type of pregnancy. Okay, you were a nurse. So you're like, "I'm pretty comfortable with this type of thing." - I've given myself a couple, like I've used before. - Oh, you give it yourself? - I have, like, in school. Now I don't think I can do that. - That's very cool. - It's, you've done it yourself is what you've said. Oh gosh, how do you possibly do that? - It's actually really hard, which I think, when I, like, after I learned, I was like-- - He's an able to, I feel like-- - Well, you can do it here. Yeah, no, here is, like, you can do, like, there's, like, there's veins here that you can do it on to, which are easier. Like, if I'll do, like, like, an IV push, like, like, a med swab, they, like, do, like, the vitamin pushes and stuff, that I know how to, like, do it myself. But yeah, no, I'm, I'm okay with that. I mean, they're not, they're not fun. Like, they're not, like, enjoyable, but I just, I, I try not to, like, not honestly. I just, like, trying to, like, get it over with and just do it. - Remime, you was in type of nursing that you did, were you around pregnant, like, pregnancy much? - No, I only had a couple of patients ever that were maybe just, like, postpartum, but not, like, early days. Like, they had been in the hospital because they got an infection or they were back. I had a, I had a COVID mom once that had a two week old, and they both had COVID, but the baby was up in NICU and she was with us, which I didn't, like, at all. That was really hard. But yeah, not really, not really any moms, but my best friend is a labor and delivery nurse. - That's a good tool to have now. - Yes, she, I ask her a lot of questions, but when I did my clinical rotations, and I did, like, the labor and delivery rotation, I was like, I can't do this, like, that's. - I basically saw a vaginal birth and I was like, I literally came home and I was like, babe, I'm not having a child until I forget, but that looks like, and now I'm like, it's like 80% gone now. - When was that? How many years ago? - In 2019. - Wait, you saw delivery and you were like, I didn't want any part of that. - Yeah. - Is it was she unmedicated or what? - No, just literally seeing it. - I was seeing it. - I was seeing it from the receiving end. - I don't want to see that year. - Yeah, yeah, no, that was a lot. That was a lot. And I had never seen a birth before. - And it's crazy and amazing, but yeah, I also, I do get a little squeamish. - Yeah, no, that was just like really a lot to like. Also, now that I'm saying this out loud, this woman literally allowed like three students to just like stand and watch her give birth. - She brought my mother to think about that, honestly. - But I wouldn't, I don't want, I wouldn't want a student in my room. - All kinds of people were, and I don't even know. - Yeah, well, there was one time though, baby. You were at a doctor's appointment in your hometown, and then a kid you used to babysit. - Well, town. - Walks in, and I think you go, "Uh, no, no, no." - Oh, the guy I know appointment. I used to babysit him, and I was like, "Hey, wait, pause." (laughing) - Oh, no. - I was like, he could knock for his, yeah, how about you? His father was a doctor, so he was actually even like pretty young to be like, - Yeah. - Observing, like that, 'cause I was like, - That's a little too much. - It was crazy. - Yeah, that crossed the line. - But I'm also like someone that like, especially then, I was quite a bit younger, like I was so afraid of speaking up, but instead of my head, I had like warring thoughts. I was like, "Speak up, Abby, this is crazy." And I was like, "No, I don't want to make anyone uncomfortable." And then I was just like, "No, I have to make myself wonderful." 'Cause you know, these gowns are like open in the front too. I was just like, "No, no, no, no." - Yeah. - I was like, "He's gotta go, Prattie, Prattie, if that one." (laughing) - So now, I mean, yeah, you're pregnant now. I mean, no going back, like, you know, this is happening. - This is snow return. - How do you mentally prepare yourself for, you know, birth, potential c-section, all of that? Like, how does that, how do you approach all that? - I mean, I think I'm just kinda taking it day by day. Part of me is like ignorance is bliss, and then the other part of me really wants to know everything. I think just talking to like as many moms as possible is definitely helping me. I think the biggest thing I feel overwhelmed with right now is like the registry stuff of it all. - Okay. - Because there's just so many products. Like, there's so many strollers, there's so many beds, there's so many car seats, there's so many bottles, there's just so many things. So me and my girlfriends now are kind of like, we're a little stressed about that, because like, we wanna make sure we get the right thing. But the consensus that I've learned is that, like, don't over buy things, because there's a lot of stuff that you don't use. - Has your FYP changed at all? - Oh, yeah, it's just pregnancy talk all the way. Yeah, it's like basically like YA book shows and pregnancy. - Are you just embracing that at this point? Just all the pregnancy content? - Yeah, no, it's so fun, I love it. - I feel like I'm getting the vibe that the more knowledge you have about pregnancy and birth and all of that, the better you feel. Is that true? - I think so to some degree, because I think I'm apprehensive of knowing stuff because I learned so much of the things that could go wrong in nursing school. So when I say I don't wanna know things, that's the stuff that I'm like, I think has also made me apprehensive to have kids because I know of the things that can go wrong. So that's the stuff I don't wanna know to a degree, which sounds kind of ignorant, but I stress a lot about things. So I would rather not be thinking about that. And that's why my best friend is a labor and delivery nurse. So just have her on speed dial if I have a question about anything. - Yeah. - 'Cause you've picked out your doula already, right? - My best friend is my doula. - Okay. - But yeah. - Did you have a doula? - I think that's smart. No, we've never had one. But I think Abby's gonna get a doula, yeah. - Okay, yeah, I think what I've heard from my friends I have had a really great experience with doulas is that it takes a lot of pressure off the husband because they, then they can kind of speak on your behalf and take pictures and stuff. And your husband can kind of just be there for you. Whereas I feel like Matt was trying to do the most, especially with the nature of our first delivery. I feel like there was a time where I was not talking. And I could do my poor Matt, first time dad, you were literally like 22 years old. You're like, I don't know what's going on. And I'm not talking either. I'm not advocating for myself. So I think it'd be a good idea. It sounds like a great idea. And I also think like how you said, like having other moms to be in community with into like kind of like, they share the same experience in a way like having someone that's so knowledgeable about birth and pregnancy in the room. Like I'm like, I would like that. I want someone that has, I want someone that has a vagina as well in there. - Yeah. - Like not just you. I feel like there's some who are like, you know, I don't want to know anything and I just want to go into it. That was me. I was like, please no one tell me anything. I'm just going to go in there and then take my baby out. There's other people like I know everything. And it's just different ways of handling that unknown. - Yeah. - 'Cause so much of pregnancy, I'm sure you know, like already you're just learning deep and you're like, so much of this is just like dealing with, learn as you go. - Learn as you go, yes. - I can only imagine, especially now being in the public eye, the amount of questions that you get, being pregnant, you know, when's the due date? What's the gender? What's the name? So many different questions. How do you decide what to keep private and then what to share? - I think if it has to do like with me personally, I'm more than happy to like share how I'm feeling and what I'm walking through. But it's definitely just like a whole new territory and you know, every time, you know, after this, every time I open my mouth, an article pops up and that's something that I'm really learning. During this pregnancy is every time I even just say, like, you know, I'm struggling with something. Like, there's a bunch of articles that pop up. So it's made me want to really protect what, like protect my pregnancy and everything around it. But when it comes to me personally, I think it's like I love opening up a chair about like what, like mentally I'm going through and my physical body changes and like that kind of a thing. 'Cause I think that's also what women want to hear. Like I don't think other moms necessarily care about like the gender of the baby or what my due date is or what like whatever anything is. I think they want to know what I'm walking through in my pregnancy. 'Cause that's what I want to watch. Like not that I don't care. Like not that I don't care about when your due date is or what, you know, we didn't even know the gender of your baby so after we did, you know, ours. But after we did the squeeze, but like it's just, I want to know like what your experience was like, but the C-section, what was breastfeeding like? And what was this like? Like that's more of like what I want to know. So I think that's like more important. - How do you feel about articles being made? Like is that a good thing, a bad thing? - I mean, I would love to not have it to a degree. I mean, there's fun to it, but also, you know, people can take a sentence of anything you say and make it anything they want. So. - Has that happened before? - Yeah, for sure. Now, I mean, I feel really lucky that I have like such a great audience and I feel like our lemon drops, the squeeze listeners and just like my audience on socials. Like it's just so much of support and love and it's truly the best thing. And it's just been really special to you. Share about what I have, like what I'm going through because so many other women have been like, yeah, I'm like walking through that same thing or I agree. So it's been, it's been special.
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[email protected]/unplanpodcast. - Yeah, I think it's cool. You opened up in the episode about the first trimester about body image. I thought that was really cool, especially after seeing my wife now on her fourth pregnancy. That's been a common conversation that we've had. I've never, I've obviously never been pregnant. I thought it was cool how you were able to open up about the fact that you've never judged someone for their body or looked negatively upon like a pregnant person for their body. But then you going through that yourself, then everything changed. Can you talk more about that? - Yeah, no, it was definitely, I think, my little pessimist saying that when I was just feeling all the feels in my first trimester was, I was just like pregnancies propaganda. Like none of this is fun. Like what if this is fun? Like I know I'm gonna get through the first trimester and then it's gonna be enjoyable. But like nothing right now is like enjoyable about this. It was really the first time that I really struggled with my body image and comparison to some degree because like I said, I've never looked at another pregnant woman and been like, oh my gosh, look at her arm. Like I've never been, I've never like questioned someone's like body while they're pregnant. I'm like, oh my gosh, look at their belly. Like that's so amazing. They're pregnant. Like those are like, I'm like, they're glowing. It's only positive thoughts that I ever have towards pregnant women. And then I got pregnant and then I didn't have any of those thoughts. Like so it was something that I even still, I think I'm probably gonna have to work through. And I think a lot of women are flirting to walk through as they're pregnant. And I think it probably will feel different my next pregnancy because I have been through it so I like know what to expect. But I just like did not know what to expect at all with it. Like how my body was gonna react where I was gonna get a stretch mark, where I was gonna gain weight. Like what it was gonna look like. So yeah, it's definitely been like an interesting thing. But it was really cool because so many women literally, I've never had so many messages in my life from after sharing that. Women messaging me about that. So many pregnant women were like, I literally feel this exact same way right now. Like thank you for sharing that. And I felt so validated to a degree because it's not just me that was feeling that way. So many other women were. - What's your go to outfit right now? - This. - That's what suits, what's that? - Yeah, it's getting summer. So I'm like, oh boy, like I don't know how that's gonna. Or like a nap dress like a hillhouse, like just a southern little. Have you heard of that brand of dresses? They're kind of pricey, but my girlfriend got me onto them. They literally like the material last like, I've literally had this dress for like six years. They're the most comfortable thing. And I fit in the same size like pre pregnancy when I was like my smallest to like still now. And they're still like room for me to grow. So it's like very universal. So this and like a sundress, it will change your life. - What's funny is like the evolution of like, how I've dressed during pregnancy. Because I think the first I was like, I wanted to wear maternity clothes specifically. And the second I don't even, I think I just wore big t-shirts. This one has been a bump out pregnancy. I feel like my bump has been exposed a lot, which is funny because my bump is not in to top shape. - I'm at a double hernia repair. I got a new stretch marks. I got mesh here. Things just aren't as round as they used to be. - I like the bump though, I said. - And thank you. And all like, it's just the evolution. I truly do believe like it changes over time. And postpartum is a whole different experience too, like with your body. Something you said on the squeeze, we had a conversation prior to this on the squeeze and we intated. Our emotions, our thoughts are so complex. Like we're able to hold the negative and the positive at the exact same time. I feel like my relationship with my body and like it's like you can hold the positive of like, yeah, my body's doing something immaculate. Like the actual purpose of my body is, is bull in my mind right now. - Yeah. - Do I like the visual aspect of this right now, all the time, am I like super happy with the changes that I'm seeing physically in it? Like maybe not. And I think that sometimes that's uncomfortable for people to grapple with both and. And you said that really well. So I also do think that like going through birth to, well, totally change your first, maybe not. 'Cause I feel like also in postpartum is when I was like struggling to with my body. 'Cause I was like, I gave my, I extended grace for myself and I was pregnant. I was like, you're growing a baby now. So it's going to look different. But then postpartum, I was like, why do I expect the same thing of my body now afterwards? That was profound. Like the negative and the positive, we can hold both and we can hold them at the same time. - Yeah. And that's something we need to like talk about more. And I think other women that have walked through pregnancy aren't the people that are leaving like the nasty comments and like saying like, you're ungrateful. Like how dare you say like, you don't like your body, you're growing a baby, like you're ungrateful. I don't think that's the other pregnant women that have like, and moms that have walked through this before leaving those comments. I think it's probably men and women that haven't walked through it. And I think you definitely just have a big perception change with it. And both can coexist. That's what I'm learning. You can have both a negative and a positive emotion to everything. - What's the biggest change you've noticed with moving into the second trimester now? - That I can like feel like a human again. - Oh my God. - It feels better. - Yeah, no, definitely like feeling better and have my energy back, which is great because I was really struggling. So I was definitely like, came out of a hole and was like, oh, the sun is shining and I'm alive. And I feel like I was actually able to process my emotions more, which was great. And my therapist probably would agree with that. Because I was like, a text that would be like, I need to see you because these hormones are not being friendly right now. But no, I'm definitely like feeling better, which is great. Obviously like, you know, sometimes go and then other things come, but I'm able to like fully, like I just got back from like a week in New York doing like press and work. So like I would not have been able to do that in my first trimester at all, even a little bit. So it's nice being able to like do things again. - Do you think you and Taylor are gonna do a baby moon of some sort? - That's honestly a great question. We have not figured that one out. - You haven't planned it yet. - Yeah, no. I know we might just do like a staycation just like a little weekend thing. I don't know. I know. - You should go to Cabo. That's where we've gone a lot. We've gone there I think three times now for baby moons. And it's awesome. - I've actually heard, I actually do feel like a lot of people either go to Cabo on baby moon or they go to Cabo and then they get pregnant. - Oh! - Good place to get pregnant. - It's a good place to get pregnant. You've had this major shift now, marrying a movie star in the spotlight. You also have your podcast, which has brought a spotlight to you as well. Now you're having a kid. So how do you plan to navigate, fame, all of that with having a child? Have you guys had a conversation about that? - Yeah, I think to some degree, I also think there's just a lot of like unspoken things that we both agree on. I think we're both just gonna keep doing our jobs and not have our kids apart of that. The internet is I've just learned is such a scary place to have kids. And I have friends that share their kids all the time and I love seeing their kids on the internet. But for me personally, I don't think that's like what I want to do but I could change my mind and I could want to do that. But at this point in time, it's just like a level of privacy. I feel like that and my baby's in my body and no one could see my baby yet. So it's definitely like a new level of unknown for sure. I do think about if we go out, someone's gonna take a photo of our baby. I'm like, that you have to think about to protect them. - Yeah. - It's a bummer to have people. - Yeah. - Yeah. - I think, okay, correct me if I'm wrong, has the media gotten better though about celebrities' kids? because they're not gonna just like on people magazine.
and show a kid's face of a celebrity with that, that's not really a thing anymore, right? - I, yes, there has been a shift in like, protecting kids' privacy, and I definitely think, I know, I was actually thinking, I'm like, do you have to like alert people, like don't post my kid's face? Like, how do you, like, I don't think you do, that's probably just me being dumb, but like-- - Just like, have your kid hold an emoji, like hanging over their face when you're walking around in public? - No, I don't think you're allowed to share kids. - I was making a stupid joke. - No, but I'm saying, I don't think you're a shared kid. - Yeah, or maybe it's more of like a culture shift, 'cause I don't know if there's actually a law around that. - No, I don't think, I don't know if there's a law, but I think it's definitely like a-- - Like, that's book rule. - I don't know, because the tablets could literally like, it's news, like they could do whatever they want. I know they definitely used to, but I think people are just being kinder about it to a degree. - At what age do you think you're gonna show your kid, Shark Boy and Lava Girl? - I mean, that's a good question. (laughing) - She's like, I probably-- - Yeah, I mean, probably sooner than later. That thing, it's so crazy how that movie has literally just like not lost like, it's charm at all with kids. Like, even I have friends that have little kids and they will put it on for them. Like, it's just, it's just, it stands to test the time. It's so crazy. - Now I feel convicted. We haven't shown our three-year-old and two-year-old Shark Boy and Lava Girl. I showed them Jimmy Neutron a couple weeks ago. They are obsessed with Jimmy Neutron, and I'd bet you if we showed them Shark Boy. They tell me they're like, gotta blast. - Oh my gosh. - They watched you be doing Shark Boy yesterday. - They watched you yesterday. - That's so sweet. - And honestly, like you said, still the test of time is that movie was playing while I was making dinner and it's like, what do I remember quotes from this? Like, guys, friends, like, I'm peeing in the shower. I was like, whatever, remember this. - Oh my gosh. - Also such a douche. - Okay. - Okay, I want to say this though. Have you seen, here's my idea for you guys. I think you need to show your kid as they grow up, the movie, but not say anything. Like, you don't say anything at all, and let them figure out, like, wait, is that dad? Like, I have a question that, like, it's really fun for my friends' kids, like, that have watched the movies. Like, she has, he's probably six or seven now, but he's probably four at the time when she had showed him Shark Boy and Lava Girl. And, like, Taylor would have come and she'd be like, this is Shark Boy and he'd be like, that's not Shark Boy, like, Shark Boy is a kid. - It's a Shark Man. - So, it's such, it's like a funny thing to think about. How kids, like, comprehend that is, like, really cute. - Yeah, they're very literal. I feel like, like, nope. - Yeah. - Very mad. - Very mad. - Well, you know, I think there was something viral about The Rock showing his daughter, Moana. - Yes. - His daughter didn't, like, just would not believe. - No, no, he's just like, you're not mad. That's really cute. - So cute. - Yeah. - There's so many ways you guys can do that. That's a unique thing you get. - Very niche. - Very niche. - Thank you to Chili Pad for sponsoring this portion of today's episode. I have not shut up about our chili pad since we got it. I feel like it has personally benefited my sleep quality. - Oh, yeah. - So much. - I love that Abbie and I can select our own temperature. 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Order it today with free shipping and try it out for 30 days. You can return it for free if you don't like it with their sleep trial. Visit www.sleepslep.me/unplanned and never wake up hot and tired again. - Speaking about postpartum, talked about like preparing for like baby coming, like potential fears about labor and delivery, but then when the baby's here, obviously you can't plan for everything, but like what do you expect as far as like breastfeeding, sleep, like what are your plans? - I'm expecting not to know anything and not to like just like feel the drowning feeling. Like I'm expecting that, so hopefully it's like a little better. I'm really going into it open-minded about the breastfeeding. Like I have a friend, I have a girlfriend whose baby was allergic to her breast milk. - Yeah, that happens. So like, and I had never heard of that before. So I'm gonna have formula, I'm just gonna try like everything. Like I just, I don't like really care at this point. Like I'm just like whatever, however the baby gets fed, I'm like, great. - Are you having any like weird pregnancy cravings at all? - I know, that's such a good question. I mean, well, I did just buy some Girl Scout Cookies so maybe that Girl Scout Cookies, but that's always a craving. Um, I know, I don't know. I had, during my first trimester, watermelon was like my huge thing because it was like light and refreshing. I ate so much watermelon. That was like my favorite thing and that definitely could like get me through the day. Anything that's like, but I think this is like a universal. Like anything that is like tangy or like have you had the Jersey Mike's pregnancy sub? - Is it like, you heat up the meat? - No, it's like banana peppers and like it's just like the vinegary taste - Oh, I had it. - Okay. - It's basically just, it's just without deli meat. You should, you should definitely, at all. It has bacon, but it's bacon, so you can have bacon. - That's why I like Jersey Mike's with pregnancy for Abby, 'cause yeah, they have all these like cooked sandwiches. - Are you in hot sandwiches? - I guess, I think Subway probably has that too. But I think Jersey Mike's the better thing. - Jersey Mike's has like a hot pepper relish, I think it's called, that goes on this pregnancy sub. Just look, just look it up on the internet. I don't, I found it somewhere from someone posting it. - I agree, spicy, I agree, that does kind of. - Yeah, or like just a little like, like a little drink. Like a, I love like a midday, little just like spin drift or like a matcha or something. Yeah, I love that. - A little mottail. - Yeah. - Something I was thinking about too is, you know, given Taylor's background in being a child actor, there's probably that potential one day that your kid could say, hey, I wanna do a movie, I wanna audition for something. - Yeah. - Am I thinking like way too far out there? Have you guys even like thought about anything like that with-- - No, I mean, we definitely talked about it. I mean, yeah, it's something that I think is probably inevitable because I danced my entire life and did theater as a little kid. So I think we're definitely bound to have a child at some point that wants to do something in the arts. - Yeah. - No, I think that's something that if they want to explore it, we'll obviously allow them to, but it's not something we're gonna push for at all. - Yeah. - That's whatever, like with any sport, we're gonna put them in all of the things and have them do all the things, but definitely not pushing for it. - And do you like living in California? Do you think you'd ever move back to the Midwest? 'Cause you guys are both from Midwest. - I'm from here, Taylor's from Michigan. - That's right, okay, you're-- - Yeah, I'm from Tokyo, Taylor's Michigan. - So you guys are never moving that, your whole-- - I know, there was a time where we were like, maybe we would move, but I feel like I just have such a great community around me right now that if I didn't think that maybe we would, but my best friend is also moving back from Austin to back here, so I'm very excited about that 'cause we've been long distance. But yeah, I know, I don't know. I mean, never say never. I would, my friends wanted to move somewhere. I'd probably move with them, but no, we're pretty happy here. - Something I was surprised that you said earlier, like talking about a future pregnancy. You are an only child. And I know that you've talked about openly like here, like I don't like love being pregnant. I was surprised to hear that you're like already open to like future pregnancies. - Yeah. - It hasn't been enough to say I'll never do this again, apparently. - Yeah, I don't, no, I definitely want more than one because I was one and I wanted a friend, yeah. I think also just because I didn't have cousins or anything like around my age, like no one was really close to me in age at all. So I was just with the grownups the whole time. So yeah, I mean, I definitely would want another one. I also feel like I'm gonna see my baby and be like, it's like just obsessed that it's literally like, part of my husband in a child form and be like, okay, I'll take another. So I could see both of us being like, okay. But yeah, no, I'm definitely open to it. That's something that I do want. But then, you know, the other day, I told Taylor, I was like, what if I only want to have one? He was like, okay, like, whatever you wanted. Yeah, if I'm like, thank you for the sport. - You just need to hear that right now. That's sweet, that's really sweet. Have you been using pregnancy to get taken care of? Oh, so I do want to turn the lights on, but can't get up. - Yeah, Taylor has definitely been the most helpful. He's so funny. I'll ask him for like a couple of things. He's like, do you need anything before I sit down? And I'm like, no, I'm okay now. But no, he's been so helpful with,
like everything, it's been great. You definitely did like everything for me in the first and now it's like 50/50, sometimes like when it's, he knows when it's nighttime, I'm like, okay, I'm done moving, like I'm on the couch or watching a show, like I need ice in my water, I need like a snack, like you can get, yep. - Yeah, that amount of ice is really important. - Yep, yep. - I remember like, I was like this was when we first, I'm like this is so fun, now I can just like have you do anything, and you do, you're great about it. I feel like we're just, we get, we made well. We got guys, I wanna take care of us. Do you think when it comes to like, everything about labor, delivery, and postpartum, can be a little graphic? - Yeah. - How do you think he's gonna handle that? - That is a great question. - My friends has been passed out in the labor, and it was, wait, I forgot about that. - Can you snoring when the baby's here? So I think there's a, and Matt watched the entire thing and then wanted to, like there's such a range, you're like, what are you anticipating? - I think he'll be fine. I think he'll like, norm, I think normally medical stuff makes him like a little like, eh. But I think that's, I don't think to the point where he would pass out, but I also think when the husband is in that role of like, I'm like, I'm supporting like my wife needs me. Yeah, like they're like, it's like a different role than just like if, you know, Taylor were to be going in and like getting surgery or like getting an IV, like blood drawn or something, like it's a different type of scenario. Like they're like, is purpose for him being there. He needs like, I need his support. He needs to like be there. So I think, I think he'll be fine. - You're like, you never know, I mean. - I guess we'll find out. - I was always like, you don't have to, but you were like, I want to like. - Yeah, have you guys ever been to the hospital together for some reason, ever like any injuries, any surgeries? - Once we have, but I ended up being fine. I was having like a weird, hard thing. No, I mean, we've been to like, doctors if I went, like a lot of doctors together, but nothing like crazy serious. He actually was with me, well, obviously not in the room, but he came with me. I had to get a colonoscopy very early on in our relationship and he was like with me through that. Like the recovery is quick, especially when you have like actual anesthesia, like it's just a procedure, but we've gone through like a couple things like that. So nothing to graphic, but. - He didn't pass out. - He did not, no. - It's just, it does bond you like being in like, being so vulnerable, like together to, it's a really cool thing to walk. - You took care of me when I got my wisdom teeth out in college. - That's true. You had a couple things that I've gotten you down for the count. - The common cold. - No, I'm just kidding. - Oh, yeah, question. When Taylor's sick, does it bother you? 'Cause I feel like that's a common thing. Like if I'm sick, I feel like Abby's just automatically pissed off. - Yeah, the men, the men are just, I feel like that is a common thing. - I just have a text with my friends like, "Matt, say good work." Like, it's not, it's honestly that's, that's one of the best things about marriage is like, or having married friends is that the married, my girlfriends now, like when the husband's to get sick, like they're just like. - It's not, it's not even fake, that's real. I just get some heart attack. - We have friends that were like obsessed with their dogs before having kids. They were just like beloved dog parents. - Good, yeah. - And then they had a baby and the dog just took the back to you. - They were taking their dog. - Yeah, they didn't really like their dogs much. How do you feel about that? - There is no way in the world that's happening. I'm going on record. Our dog's really like, our kids, especially like our puppy. Like she, I mean she's not a puppy, she's five now, but our younger dog, she's a Belgian Malinois. So she's like a very smart dog. Like she's like part human. Like we bring her everywhere, she travels with us. Like she's like, she understands English. Like she, my other dog is like a house cat. Like she just kinda like does her own thing. And she just like, does sleep and vibing and just plays a little, then sleeps. So she's just like our house cat. So, and I love her, but nothing will, there's no like missing interaction there, but our younger one for sure is like, she's like part human and wants to be like involved in everything. That's what I'm excited about. - Do you think she'll be good around the baby? - Yeah, and I think they both, I think they're both gonna have to like obviously learn 'cause they haven't really like been around kids, but I'm excited to like watch that whole journey 'cause I think they're gonna be great. - How do you feel about like, I feel we were asking this question, but like breastfeeding? - I've taken all of the advice of friends that have done, have breastfed and done formula. And I've friends that you know, one pregnancy did formula, one breastfed, and then they switched or like whatever it is. I just, I think I'm just really going into it open-minded because I don't wanna have a plan and then that plan not work and then get frustrated with it. Like I'm just really trying to like, I'm gonna see like a lactation consultant and still like try. Like so it's just, you know, maybe it's not for me or me, but maybe it doesn't last. Like there's just so many things that you know, Clitor could not happen. So I'm really just trying to go into it open-minded. - Has there ever been a point in your life for you? How did a plan and it didn't go according to plan? 'Cause it sounds like you're not wanting to plan because of that in a way. - Yeah, I think I just am like a planner and I think that, I don't know if there's anything, like specifically that stands out, but I definitely like a plan and like to stick to the plan. So I think I'm maybe trying with this to be as no plan as possible when it comes to the breastfeeding formula thing. I wanna be prepared either way. I honestly think that's what it is 'cause I wanna know how both work and be prepared either way. And when the time comes, I'll know how to do both. - That's funny. - We'll see, I don't know. - For reminding me of the type of Instagram or the type of feed I'm getting right now, I'm on type B, mom, take talk, put it on Instagram. Do you think that you're gonna be more of a type A mom? It sounds like you might be more of a type A mom or? - I'm definitely will be a type A mom. I think, I mean, I could change who knows, but I mean, that's just my personality is that. So, yeah. That's how my sister-in-law is. I weave a type A mom and two type B moms. - Oh, yeah. - So 'cause I do think that I'm like, that I don't know what type that was. That was just, that was some type of mom. - That was some sort of type that just came out there. But, you know what? Everyone's kids well adjusted and loved and proud and free. - Yep. - So, it's just so funny. - They're fed, they're happy. - Great. - Thank you to Shopify for sponsoring this portion of today's episode. 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Like I just, I do my dishes, I do my laundry. Very normal. Like I don't have a bunch of staff running around everywhere. Doing things. - So that's what people assume is that you've got, you've got all these people that are doing everything for you. - Yeah, a couple of years ago, I posted something that, I don't know what I posted. Something that, oh, I was putting laundry, I think I was putting stuff in the wash and then there was a bug in the hamper and Taylor, like I forget what it was. It was something like that. And people were like, you do your own laundry? I was like, what? Like it was, it was the funniest thing to me. But yeah, no, it's very, like we're gonna finish them and then go, you know, eat the other half for my jersey, my sandwich and go let my dogs out and just like probably put the dishes away. Like it's just very like normal. - Yeah, what is your day today? Like are you a home body for the most part? - Yes, because I work from home, but I do, I like, you know, I love a target run. I love like getting out of the house and like doing little things like that. Especially now being pregnant, I haven't gotten out of the house as much because I don't, that's just like a little bit too much work for me to like get out. But then again, I just got back from New York and was literally gone. So, it comes in waves, but yeah, I mean, I'm definitely a home body, especially because, you know, I hasn't said how many is not working. So, especially now that we're just really like savoring time, just the two of us. - Speaking of work, I saw you did a brand deal with Chipotle, which was hilarious. - Yes. - I'm so curious, was this your idea? Was this someone at Chipotle's idea that they pitched to you? - We love Chipotle. No, we just had like this really funny pair of social relationship with the Chipotle account for like a really long time, and they love Taylor.
Yeah, he just did this really cool. They're Chipotle honey chicken. It's like, it's back. - It's good. I've had it before. - It actually is really good. Like I really enjoy it. - Are you more of like a tacos person? Like burrito person? - I get, I will, okay. I get, I'm a bowl person from Chipotle, but that's, well technically I order the salad if I'm ordering it like through postmates because that's how you can get the vinaigrette. But if I'm in store, I'll get a bowl because the vinaigrette is the cherry on top for me. - And whose idea was it to have this giant guacamole bowl with Taylor like in the-- - That was Chipotle. Taylor responded to something of theirs about the guac and was like, I could bathe in this stuff. And then they then came over and brought a giant bathtub of guac with a little like figure, that's technically an action figure. I called it a figure, but like Taylor from the Twilight franchise in the thing. And I truly just ate guac for about five days and then it went bad so that I had to start out. I was devastated. Yeah. - Abby's brother used to work at Chipotle and I would like request that he would make the guac because he just knew how and he knew all the recipes like in his head. - Yeah, like at our house, he'd be like, "Blake, do the Chipotle." - "Make us a burrito." - That's so good. I love it. - No one would love Chipotle. - Actually take some fun time. - And being in New York, can we talk about what brought you out there and-- - Yeah, okay. - Yeah, no, I got to do, just a lot of fun press. I mean, May's Mental Health Awareness Month is probably come out after May's over, but that's kind of just my super bowl. So I got to do a lot of fun press and interviews and I got to partner with Little Words Project, which is a little bracelet company. We have a bracelet that's out that says you got this for Mental Health Awareness Month. And it's actually out for a while. But five dollars from every bracelet go towards the Lemon Foundation, which is my nonprofit. So we teamed up on a bracelet for that and then I do a lot of work with Maybelline too. They have a Brave Together program, which does a lot of really awesome stuff in the Mental Health space. And we partnered together on a summit last year and I got to host a brunch with them in New York and we're doing some other stuff here in LA too, which is really fun. So yeah, it was great. And I love New York, so literally any excuse to get me there. I'm like, get me there, I love it. - And you're nonprofits. Tell me more about the mission, the vision of it. Cause it's been around now for a couple of years, right? - Yeah, I think I'm like trying to do, I started it in like the middle of 2022. But it's a mental health based nonprofit. It's really just focused on making mental health like it's accessible and approachable and digestible. I think mental health can definitely be like a big scary thing especially after going through COVID. So many of us were struggling. Whether, you know, I worked as a COVID nurse. Anyone, even if you were just, you know, at home unemployed, like not working. You were struggling with your mental health. So I'm really big on just making resources accessible. And like I think there's a lot of beauty in the little things, like little breathing techniques or how to practice gratitude, like little things to just incorporate in your day. So that's what we focus on in connecting people with the resources that they need, whether that's for, you know, sexual assault survivors, people with drug addiction, moms, like we on our website, we have like all, like there's basically just a bunch of categories. And we have resources for kind of for everything. So just kind of the middle man to help connect the dots and make life a little easier. Obviously, you know, your nonprofit is clearly doing cool things to help spread the word, raise awareness about mental health and, you know, depression, all those things. Correct me if I'm wrong, but you lost a friend to suicide. Couple of years ago, but, you know, five, 10 years ago, we've also lost a friend to suicide back in college. And I'm curious just from like an advocacy standpoint, what, like is there a certain charity or organization, you know, in addition to your nonprofit that you're like, ooh, I, like this is, this is like, I really like what they do. I don't know if there's-- Oh, I know, there's so many. And there's, that's, it's really cool because there is so many fun, like organizations that like smaller ones that have popped up over the past few years that are really just like talking about things. I mean, the biggest one is NAMI, the National Alliance of Mental Illness. They're all over the US. I have friends that have literally personally walked into like a NAMI center and been connected with like help to find either a peer-to-peer support group or professional help. So they do a lot of awesome stuff. But there's, there's honestly like so many. There's project healthy minds. There's a lot, honestly, go to Lemons by Tate. That's our Instagram. We basically just follow and the collab with all of those accounts, yeah. That's so cool. Yeah, and it's so many of them now have like social media too, which is great. And that's how we get our information these days. So. Yeah, because I think like it's cool that there's a suicide hotline that you can call. Yeah, it's cool to note there's resources out there. Yeah. That's, that's sweet. For sure. What's like the, the vision for 2026 with the foundation with your podcast? Because is the podcast directly tied to the foundation? No, no, they're, they're, they're their own things. I mean, just more mental health stuff. I mean, mental health as a mom is going to be something that I'm going to walk through for the first time and share. So yeah, that's kind of, I'm, I'm leaving 2026 open. See what I, how I'm feeling. Well, I mean, I'm probably going to have my baby and then be excited to go back to work to some degree. But I'm not putting any pressure on work. But just more, more mental health stuff. I have so many ideas of events I want to do in community outreach. And I love my job too. Like both of these, both the podcast and my foundation are my jobs. So it's literally the best thing. I love it. OK, we got a little bit of a game we want to play with you. I got perfect. It's called this or that? Yes. These are just fun, rabbit fire. OK, easy pregnancy ones. OK, have your cravings and more sweet or salty? Depends on the day today. Today was a Girl Scout cookie day. So sweet. Sweet for sure. This is telling us things that we need to note. No, I'm just kidding. Huge meals are constant snacks. Snacks, but honestly, that hasn't, that's been like my life. I have always been a snackie girl. But now it's just more snacks and larger portions of snacks. Bigger snacks, more often. Yep. What's up with snacks or what are you going for? Literally anything. Everything. Do you feel super hungry? Yes, my first trimester, I literally-- the hunger was hunger I've never experienced before. And this has gotten better. It was probably for the first three-- honestly, almost maybe four months. I was literally waking-- every time I'd wake up in the morning, I would need to eat a bar right away. I would need to eat something. I think the crackers by the bed. Now it's better. Now if I have a proper dinner, then I can wake up and be OK. But it can make breakfast. Yeah, we can make it downstairs and make the food. That's awesome. This one, I feel like we already touched on this, but Pinterest mom or survival mom? I'm in a manifest of Pinterest for me. I think that feels right. OK, great. Matching family pajamas are absolutely not-- Of on Christmas. Just Christmas? Yeah. Yeah, that's-- Don't call me on that. I haven't thought that far. I don't call for you, but maybe at Christmas. I know. I keep saying little memes of people holding a cat and pretending it's like they're-- Match the baby with the dogs. Oh, yes. We're on it. Oh, Taylor and I have matched with our dogs before. So yes. You're for sure going to do the pajamas. Yeah, well, yeah, that's our Christmas tradition. So that one we'll say. But I don't know about it every day life. Yeah, I feel like maybe that's a little bit much. Hall made baby food or Costco pouches. I'm a both. I think I'm going to enjoy both. But I also think there's beauty and just a little grab and go, little squeezy guy. Schedule daynights or spontaneous moments. I'm assuming it's just like proposed, baby, like what do you-- Yeah. I love a schedule. So I have already told Taylor that I'm about to start literally just penciling in a time. Because if you could leave it up, then it doesn't happen. It really was. It's what I've been learning from people that-- when I asked people for their mom advice and just like wife advice or just like schedule the time. I'm truly honest, it's been maybe a month for us. We should go on a date right now. After this podcast, let's go on a date before-- You can go to everyone. We should go to everyone. You can go to everyone. Let's go to everyone for a date. Get the fancy smoothie. Or we could go to the play-- Yeah, we could get the Haley Beepers movie. Or we could go to the place our Uber driver told us about on the way here. My son, I can't do Mexican. OK. So I already have that guy bless him. This sounds great, but not for where we're at right now. Team sleep training or we'll just figure it out. I think sleep training. All my friends have done it, and they'd say great things. They're always sleeping. They are sleeping. That's why they love it. More scared for labor or the sleep deprivation. The labor. Yeah, and not that I have-- I'm not even going to compare my experience of lack of sleep to what I'm about to go through, but I think working night shifts-- No, you can compare that. That's hard core. Yeah, that's hard core. I have dealt with lack of sleep, but it's not a new thing for me. Yeah. So sleep deprivation is literally a form of torture. So you have every right to complain about that. And that sounds-- Yeah. Honestly, the sleep-- I will be straight up with you. The sleep deprivation is the worst part about the newborn stage, but it's temporary. But we also never went through labor, so-- I also-- and that's true. But you're a cork in that. I'm going to--
stop it right there. I'm just kidding. I should say like Matt let's just put this out there. Matt literally did all of the nights with both of our babies. I did not see him or the baby except where when he came into feed and changed his diaper. Like you so like Matt has more trauma from that because I didn't see it. So I have to give you a shout out because that's also very unusual. Most dads do not do that. Like you crushed that. Thank you. Very good. Anything for you. Mom chat mom group chats are absolutely never. Mom group chat absolutely. I've been in one for a very long time. Let's find a lonely kind of audience. A formula or rest reading. You're saying whatever the baby wants. Whenever the baby wants the baby will get perfect. We'll have we'll have all of the things ready. I'll be ready. It's for me a little bit ready. Yeah that was a lot of things that really shocked me. Postpartum Thar First was a breast pump. I was like yeah. You mean to tell me I'm gonna stick this thing on there. It's gonna suck it up and then milk is gonna come out. I remember just being like that's gnarly. Yeah no I yeah I don't even like know where to begin with that. It's crazy. It's gonna be great. It's gonna be great. I can't wait. I can't wait to learn. It'll be great. Hey this has been amazing. Thank you again for coming back on the show and everyone go check out the squeeze, taste, mental health podcast as well as you can find like find her on all the socials, TikTok, Instagram, all that good stuff and be sure to like this episode if you like it. Like, comment, subscribe, all the fun things. Yes, so excited for you. Yes so so excited. Hoping it's a very seamless, peaceful experience for you. But got you. Yeah thank you. [Music] [Music]
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