Target These Second Year WRs ✅ 2026 Fantasy Football

(upbeat music) For years, the Fantasy Football Cheat Code was to draft second year wide receivers, then 2025 hit, Vlad Makanke, Brian Thomas Jr., League neighbors, all punches straight to the face. So that means on this show, we have to get it right. And this is a fascinating group painting because there are three second year wide receivers drafted in the top 21 overall at the position. And then there's a massive drop down to the wide receiver 49 in drafts where the rest of the eight or so names we're gonna discuss here today, LAN. - I did feel like there was a pretty big tiered break between the top guys and everybody else. I think that there's two guys at the very top that I can see being like top 24 picks as we go into the next off season. I think they have excellent tape, great situations to dominate targets. And then the next group of guys are all fun in different ways. - Well, this closes our second year breakouts week. We already have episodes on the running backs, the quarterbacks and especially the tight ends. Hopefully you tune into every single one. Appreciate all of you who have and especially those of you who have hit that subscribe button and left a thumbs up. I mean, just leaving a like in the video helps it spread to more and more people out there. So we appreciate it on our road to 175,000 subscribers. So how are we gonna do this once again? ADP order of how these guys are being drafted on the dog app underdog at this very moment. So that leads us off to Tenerife Millen, the beginning of the fourth round, the second pick of the fourth round, which is quite a bit different than, you know, a lot of the year two wide receivers typically we see the end of round one, the start of round two. But he right now is being selected as the wide receiver 18. So he caught 70 of 122 targets last year for over 1,000 yards, seven touchdowns, offensive rookie of the year. When he went back and rewatched his tape, what did you see? - I think he's underrated even with those expectations. I think that he has a chance to be one of the best picks in fantasy. He's my wide receiver 12 on rankings. I moved him up after doing the deep dive here. I knew he was good. I did not remember him being so good as a route runner. He really had like a veteran field. His work against off coverage is outstanding. He understands the leverage. If the corner's playing outside the leverage, he'll run directly at him, then come back to the ball. He can really dance in off coverage as well. He can sink his hips. He's got this huge catch radius. He doesn't have hands issues. And then I do think that he has just enough speed on these kind of crossing routes where he can catch the ball and run. He's got a lot of heart on top of that. I think that he looks very similar to some of the best receivers in the game. Drake London is the one pre-draft that we both talked about. I once again will double down on that. There's a little bit of Mike Evans to his game. He's not quite as fast, long speed as Mike Evans. We're talking about a Hall of Famer. And then even like Jackson's fifth in jigs, some of the off coverage stuff in the manipulation, there's a little bit of that here as well. And I just think that the Carolina Panthers offense if you read between the lines in the off season, they might be doing a little bit more spread, passy stuff rather than being so balanced on offense. And I think probably the reason why they're doing that is it fits Bryce Young's game. And I think it really is going to fit Teterola McMillan's game. I think it's one of the best receivers in the league. For a guy that is six, four, like you said, the route manipulation and the defensive back manipulation, it shines out there. I mean, he can twist and turn some of these defensive backs on comebacks, on outrouts, and especially on these dig patterns. And inside breakers, he's just such an easy mover at his size. And I understand that this wide receiver one label has gotten a bit gray. I kind of still love to use it because it really is a separator of a guy that you build your passing game around. And then some others that kind of shine because of who their play color is or who their quarterback is. Teterola McMillan as a rookie owned 43.3% of the Panthers air yards last year. That was second across the NFL of all veterans and all rookies. I mean, that's just simply insane stuff. Now, what can the year two leap be here for T-Mac? And for me, it goes not just into his individual skills, but how actually the usage could impact what he does in year two. I would love for him to be utilized more across the formation. Like last year, it was almost over 80% of his snaps were outside and on the line of scrimmage. That's kind of the most difficult stuff to ask of any wide receiver across the league. And so what you see with the CD Lams or the Amon Ross St. Browns, you can go further and further down the list with Justin Jefferson, this outside to inside versatility to create mismatches, to create leverage advantages and stacks and motions and all that type of stuff, then allows this unlocks ceiling in terms of production and real impact in a game-to-game basis. And I think the Panthers are more set up to do that this year than they were last year. - See the same way they experimented by putting them in the slot a little bit and they did some really fun things with them. They would throw some back shoulder slot fades on the occasion. They would do these rub routes where then he would almost run a big wheel route on the backside of it and he had some big plays on that. Like you said, so much of it was just on the line of scrimmage extra-sever stuff. On a lot of their fourth downs in third and short situations, third and two, fourth and fourth, it was explosives to Tederot Mcmillan down the field because the defense would get really close to the box and then they would send him down the football field and he would come down with that. He had made some great catches on the sideline as well. So there's always just going to be a tear difference between Tederot and the Jamar Chase's and Justin Jefferson's seeded lambs just because he's not quite as gifted as an athlete as those guys. But he can rack up a ton of targets, tons of receptions in this one. I think 927 yards in the Pickle Moby is really selling him short. He cleared that last year and I do think as we see the panthers maybe in some more shootouts this year and against a more difficult schedule. As you see, the offense kind of change. No more Rico Doudel's type of stuff. I can see him really exploding. So I think the tape is top 15. I do think he will have a top 15 fantasy wide receiver season after being the wide receiver 24 last year. Part of why I think it's possible for them to move him around is because of the players that are around him. Now, Jalen Coker after being named the starter and then trading away Adam Fielin, immediately gets injured and misses time. And Jalen Coker is easily this team's second best wide receiver and kind of unlocks them to utilize both of those players as inside the outside versus tillty types. And then you go and draft Chris Brasel. Tederot and Millen and Jalen Coker to some degree were like the vertical threats on this team. Like Jimmy Horn's not doing that. When Hunter Rinfra was starting games as being the season, he's not doing that at all. And so now you add Brasel who at the very least, we know we can be a role player and spread some things out. And you can see like these dagger concepts with Brasel going deep and Tederot and Millen cutting off of that and Jalen Coker's awesome at those in breaker routes as well. Yeah, I mean, the Panthers haven't had 17 straight games of like being on the same page of the play callers and the passer and the pass catchers. And I feel like that's what everything is geared towards right now. He's getting the same page from week one and just understanding, hey, this is our group. This is what they do best. And these are their concepts are going to be successful. And I think they're going to air it out just down field 15 plus a lot more than they have been in previous seasons. One thing I wanted to bring up to you actually two things. OK, apparently Tederot and Millen, he said this himself only played last season at 205 pounds. Has said that he has gained anywhere from 15 to 17 pounds. He says of muscle. I'll leave that to if that's possible in just a few months. And that might worry some people. But Team Max says that this is the way he played at Arizona. And he just could not keep it on during his rookie year. I mean, obviously the length of the rookie season and how much more work you do and all that type of stuff. He just couldn't keep it on. This year, that's his goal. And this is what he checked in around the combine at 220 pounds. So do you think that 15 pounds can impact him on the field at all? I mean, there's so few reps where he's losing physically that I wouldn't think that's going to matter too much here. He wasn't like teetering on being too slow. But do you think him adding some weight? I don't find it that concerning. I do remember at Arizona, he was just dunking on everybody. And we saw that in glimpses as a pro, but it was not like he's just dunking on everybody, like a tee higgins type of player. He was doing, I think, a little bit more than that overall. I think, yeah, 210 to 20. I think that's a proper range for him. The other part is he's missed most of OTA so far. He says it's a foot injury that he kind of picked up at the start of this offseason activities. He claims it's not going to have surgery, but just this time and foot injuries is on people's radars. But if he's out there on the first day of training camp, that solves it for me. Yeah, I mean, if you rank him at Y-D-C-VII and he's going is Y-D-C-VIII, that's a sizable difference than you are with the market. Yeah, I trust him right now. Wow, maybe some belief in Bryce Young too. Who knew? Next, just a couple of picks later is Emeca Agbuca, the fifth pick of the fourth round. He's being selected as Y-D-C-VII. We know the incredible hot start and we can dive into that in a little bit, but just overall, he'd led the team with 127 targets, 63 catches on those targets for 938 yards and six touchdowns. That's pretty incredible looking at that set line, because if you cared over like the first eight games, he was easily going to clear. A thousand yards was easily going to clear, 10 touchdowns, and then it kind of all fell off a cliff. So was it on him? Was it on the offense? Was it the quarterback? Kind of what happened during his rookie season and what do you expect to happen here in year two? I mean, this could be an hour podcast just here. I'll go over some of the splits. So through week 11, he was the Y-D-C-VII nine on a per game basis. From week 12 to 18, he was the Y-D-C-VII 64. So that was really, really tough. What the hell happened? I think there's a couple explanations. First, Baker may feel picked up some injuries and week 12 is suffered an AC joint sprain. That point forward, Emeca Agbuca's catchable ball rate dropped a fifth. 50% that was the lowest in the NFL from week 12 on that was above 60% in weeks one through 11. So I think in general, there were some missed targets later in the season. Also in mecca. Buka picked up his own hamstring injury in week six Benjamin. So I from ESPN. He had that a really awesome tweet, citing next gen stats that a Buka had 11 routes about least 18 miles per hour through the first five weeks of the season. Then hamstring injury only 11 routes. The remaining 12 weeks from that hamstring injury. So Baker playing injured, a mecca playing injured. And then another split can want to throw out there once again is without Mike Evans. He had a 29% target share with Mike Evans. That was at 19%. That's the difference between being the wider receiver 12 and expected points and the wider receiver 41. Obviously, Mike Evans is no longer there. So I think if a mecca is going to be healthier this year, if Baker may feel it's going to be healthier this year. And we know for sure, Mike Evans is out of the way. I want to believe in what I saw earlier in the season, rather than what I saw later in the season, not to mention the Bucks offensive line was in and out of the line up the entire season. We also have a new coaching staff lots to go on here before we even get to the tape, which I think is a big part of this as well. And the new coaching staff has already said how they plan to utilize emecca Buka. And it's kind of music to our ears, where Zach Robinson, who was coming from the Atlanta Falcons and spent time with the LA Rams, has said that emecca Buka is going to be a Z. And by that, it's in two wider receiver sets. Obviously, we'll play on the outside. We'll be more of the movement piece. And I would expect him to play some slot off of that movement on top of it. That's awesome. That is music to our ears. I mean, when you think about the Rams offense, some heavy production has come from that spot. And then when you think about the Atlanta Falcons, when they asked Drake London to kind of be that movement piece, and especially when they got that slot work, that was great. I say all that because to me, that was a lot of his best stuff was, you know, when he's an on the ground player and can kind of work in that trash and maximize the free space that is afforded to him because he does, you know, manipulate some defenders out there with his route running. But I wouldn't say that there's a lot of flashness to his game in terms of high indefiniteism or like these crazy storytelling routes that are maybe over animated at times. He's very sturdy. He's very secure. And if you just get him in a situation that, hey, it's timing and I need to be here at this point and like look back at the quarterback and the ball's going to be in the correct spot, then Emechek Buka is one of the more like trustworthy young wide receivers across the league. Unfortunately, some other elements around him aren't as trustworthy in this. Right. I think the first thing is the Zach Robinson point we have to just double down on that. He said he's very similar to Cooper Cup, just in terms of the way his brain works with the game of football and natural instincts. Remember in 2022, that's when we're looking at like Cooper Cup as like at the triple crown winner. It's the Z role that you mentioned. That's where Emechek is going to be playing only 1% of Emechek's receptions were screens in 2022. Cooper Cup had 19% of them. So we're going to see an increase in screen usage also motion when I went back to watch the tape. Remember at Ohio State kind of inside outside versatility off the line of scrimmage and then like immediately he's just playing extra seaver for the box like no motion at all. It was actually just like extra seaver post routes for a lot of the season, which is not what I was expecting. And I think it was pretty damn good at them. I thought he had a little bit more pop athletically on some of these go balls and I was necessarily expecting. But based off of his college tape, I knew he was going to be good at the more Cooper Cup stuff here. And if you're going to get him on more motions and stuff, I think you're going to see more of this kind of like making mis-tuffness that we didn't necessarily see all that much out of Emechek and Bukka. So I think all this tied together, I think there's a ceiling here of being a top 10 top five fantasy wide receiver. And to me like I got really really high on Emechek and Bukka after learning more about the Zach Robinson quotes watching what Emechek was doing in a much, much more difficult situation last year than the one I think he'll be in this next season. Where do you saw you know top 10 spurts from him like stretches of the season that he finished in that area? I don't know if I can get there for the entire season to the potential top five outcome player because he's tied to Baker Mayfield. And again, Baker goes on these stretches of looking like one of the best quarterbacks in the league and making some crazy plays and you even saw it with some of those deep corners and posts that you're talking about where you know two defenders would be totally outstretched and it looked like the pass would be knocked down but it just goes right through their fingertips and lands and no one is around him and he just runs away. But I've been on like two crazy long catches you know. But then in the second half of season when obviously at Bukka was dealing with injuries as you said Baker was as well. You saw just miscommunications, mistiming, just totally inaccurate passes to and it led to a horrible catch rate at 49.6% and to me that's kind of just what Baker is now like he'll go on these stretches of being fantastic as we say sack avoidance, downfield targets, all that stuff and then something just catches up to him where then it almost falls off a cliff and we get again other stretches where he kind of throws games away and throws situations away. But that is not on him. That's not a good thing. He is dependable. He is an efficient mover. He is consolidated with his movements and everything and so hopefully he can be kind of just a safety blanket in all of this stuff. Yeah, I think Baker may feel just gives his receivers chances to be ballers and fantasy belt just because of how aggressive he is. Like you're going to miss some throws. He's going to have some interceptions like I don't care if I'm an amecicabooka owner. So yeah, I just think that we're going to see more underneath work and he's going to be more consistent throughout the season even if the buck in the years are just kind of throwing the ball down the field and just being all willy-nilly likely typically are. I just think that there's going to be more screens more underneath stuff and then I don't think there was some other routes where it would be amecca and Chris Godwin running the same route that there's one play where they're both running dig routes and it was just pretty obvious. Amecca's route was looking a whole lot better than Chris Godwin who's going to be 30 years old. So I think there's a huge ceiling that maybe we haven't really given amecicabooka enough credit for in the Cooper you hear Cooper Cup like I mean that was a super smash when we were talking about a fourth round pick. So he's my wider sever 14 him and Teteroniq milling I think have very similar cases just in general. I think team ax game was maybe a little bit more well-rounded than amecca booka but I do think amecca book is like knocking on the door for being a really great pick especially if you start with a couple running backs early. The sea ox game was awesome. I mean had not to create that leverage sitting in zones confused offensive backs eyes back to the quarterback in zone windows on top of it and that's stuff to do against the sea hawks defense. Similar stats and one that caught my attention he only caught eight of 28 contested targets this past year again some of that might be the placement accuracy of it but I also just wouldn't peg that as amecca book is game necessarily but there's so much to really like here and then it's other young wider severs other than Chris Godwin like his jolomek millen and then Ted Hurst is getting some love from Zach Robinson right now is like your downfield fast x receiver but I don't want to put like too many eggs in that basket because that's a stratospheric jump that Ted Hurst is having to make from you know Georgia state to the NFL. It'll be jolain Chris Godwin and then amecca and then the rest of the guys will mix in. I just think that the debate right now is like is it sneaky Chris Godwin's the slot and Chris Godwin's Cooper cup and I think after watching the amecca tape I think it's pretty obvious Zach Robinson's like now amecca is the Cooper cup and then we'll figure out what the hell Chris Godwin is and hopefully he's not Alan Robinson. I mean this fourth round for wider severs is so staff. It's so amazing. You start with lad then you go to T-Mac then Garrett Wilson then he mechek Buka it ends with the likes of Terry McClauren and Jalen Waddle. I mean this this round of wider severs is one of the favorites I've had in in recent years and Smack dab in the middle of it is our next name. Three in a row here basically for second year wider severs in Luther Burton at wider severs 21 the six pick of the fourth round. Talk to me because you and I have been on opposite sides of the Luther Burton conversation for a year at this point. So what do you expect in his second year after watching his entire first year? I think Luther Burton is one of the best yards after the catch threats in the game. I mean it's it's actually ridiculous what he can do. It's not this that he's bigger than your typical like yards after the catch guy. He plays pretty tough with the ball in his hands and he does that start stop stuff. That's like what Caderius Tony was doing but Caderius had no nowhere near the same size that eluther Burton does and Ben Johnson understood the assignment. Like there was a bunch of screens thrown thrown to him 25% of his reception or his targets were screens and then he would also get Luther Burton in motion to get him screaming down the football field. Sometimes he would cut off of it for first down. Sometimes he would just get a full head of steam and carry this thing over down the field. So Ben Johnson understood the strengths that Luther Burton has. They're very obvious. He's going to be their skied up guy in this offense. I think in terms of the rest of the game maybe a little bit more up and down but better than I thought it was going to be coming out of Missouri where I thought he was very up and down down the football field. We at least had some moments settling into zone coverage catching the ball and then after he caught the ball 20 yards downfield remains a big pain in the ass to tackle. So I think Rome and Luther Burton are almost on the exact opposite planes of receivers and I'm guessing that Ben Johnson is just going to lean into each one of their strengths and not ask the other one. to do the other. I can't wait for this second season because while it was a trio at Wider Seevers and really a quartet in ways because Alameda Zakiis actually had the most slot targets on this team last year. Luther Burton and Kelson Loveland who we just talked about a couple days ago in this episode weren't really fully featured on this team until about week seven or week eight. And again, I understand it, but at the same time just he brings something special. And as we talked about Kelson Loveland brings something special to this team. Like there is the star dust sprinkled on Luther Burton after the catch where he's just different than almost everyone that you see with the ball in their hands. How he can stop and start his acceleration and then what I love the most is that he refuses to go down on first contact. And there are multiple plays where it's further down the field not just on screens, but like when he catches a pass seven yards or 10 yards down the field where he breaks multiple tackles and then is finally pulled out of bounds by someone and is still up on two feet somehow rather than going to the ground. He's just so dynamic to me that when you attach that dynamism with Ben Johnson, then you get someone that sure isn't a perfect or complete player right now, but is going to be set up for success on every single series and every single game to give you production because this is one of the masters at manufacturing space for his players. And Luther Burton is one of the most lethal and threatening players in space in the league. It is a perfect pairing out there and I am so glad that now he has this runway to easily step into two wider severs sets. There is no competition for it. And we're going to see some low points because that's just his game and he's not a perfect player out there. But the high points are like game changing moments and potential like wide receiver one over a weeks because he already did that as a rookie last year too. Yeah, he's going to break so many tackles. Ben Johnson's going to know what to do with him and then he's going to run a way more routes because even like in the the playoff games and down the stretch, he was not a full-time player in the playoffs. 63 and 53% of snaps when he was out there and there was seven contests with Roma Dunesay active and Colston leveling like actually in the full-time role. He was only averaging 32 yards per game in those like those on offspits that there's a million more of them. They're all just going to go up because he's just going to be on the football field a lot more. I think the dangerous game is doing the per route stuff and just saying that this thing's just going to carry on forever. And there's some some one a couple things on the per route stuff. It was 2.5 yards in the regular season which put that next like Odell Beckham and the best receivers in NFL history. But then once you include the postseason, then it drops to 2.2. If you want to exclude the flea flicker busted coverage, that was a 65 yard play. Now we're down to two. If you want to remove the screens, now we're done to 1.7. So like the more concepts he doesn't have any catches. Right. But I'm saying that the context is he doesn't he's probably not going to be Odell Beckham just because he plays more snaps here. And then there's also on offspits which all I posted on the Twitter with Colston Levelyn with Roma Dunes a yada yada yada. This is going to be a difficult one to get right. I feel pretty good about his floor because of what he does after the catch. And then if he could round out his game out in the real routes against press man coverage a little bit more craftiness, not leading to some interceptions in zone coverage. If you can do just be average in that we're talking about somebody that's going to be a fantasy wide receiver to he just priced like that right now, which makes me like a tad nervous. But like I have him as a wide receiver 28 and which is way different than ADP. So like if you're drafting by your stuff right now you probably won't wind up with a lot of Luther. For sure. I understand that you're giving the positives and the negatives of this. He is being drafted aggressively at this point because players of this type get drafted aggressively because they stand out amongst their peers. Yes, definitely. So yeah, so why do you see for 21? I wrote I'm going to bet it early. I'm going to miss the party. But like I understand why there's a party brewing right now. Yeah. Let me make a case of how this can get even better. Okay. Yeah. I don't think he's going to have his career at 2.55 yards per outrun or 2.3 or any of that stuff. Right. At the same time, yeah, he had some drops. There are also plenty of passes that kind of tip off his totally outstretched hands. So like if Caleb gets better in those intermediate patterns and is more accurate in that where we know you can line up his statistical just off target rate. It's very high across the league. I thought Luther Burton answered a whole bunch of questions that were fair coming out of Missouri just in terms of his legit route running as an outside wide receiver. And a lot of that came on intermediate routes and inside breakers and these dig patterns. I thought he was very good at that stuff. So if you have someone who is already good as an intermediate route runner and then is incredible after the catch, those are two buzzwords and Ben Johnson's offense that makes like a potential special talent here. So if he already has those two things, that gives you almost a floor in what he can be here. And maybe that floor is James and Williams, right, which is a roller coaster every single week and you have some real splash weeks and then some other ones that he only has two or three catches per contest. But if he also can improve in the other areas, which he missed all of training camp last year, you know, he came from an offense at Missouri that didn't ask him to really do any of this stuff. Unlike Ohio State or, you know, a bunch of these other wide receiver prospects that we talk about and he takes his year to leap and is like really bought in apparently Ben Johnson's almost favorite player. Then if he improves the other stuff just from like bad to average or from average to good, then we are cooking with like what the potential here could be and like pairing that with Kosochen Loveland and they also don't want to give up on Roma Dunesay. That is an incredible trio to keep moving forward. Yeah, I feel very good about the Bears, man, it was just everything's coming together. They compliment each other really well. I will I will be ranking Colston Loveland. I had a Luther burden straight up after watching back both of them. But the fact that Luther burden and Roma Dunesay are also in the mix next to Colston Loveland is like a very good sign for everything. So I always have this like he's a boom bus prospect and then sometimes I'm like and he's looking like a bus after a year one like this is like he's a boom bus prospect and he's looking like a boom to me right now. So like he's every bit of an upside wide receiver three and fantasy to me and then some people want to pay the mid rounds or mid wide receiver two price tag like I understand it and I hope it works out because he's a hell of a hell of a guy to watch. We have a show next week where we basically say wide receivers and running backs that we kind of aren't drafting at this point. I'll just leave this little tease. I think it's an interesting conversation that Luther burden gets picked six spots ahead of someone like Jalen Waddle where in the offense they kind of do maybe somewhat similar things and Jalen Waddle's unanimously at the top of that picking order with the Denver Broncos versus maybe where Luther burden is and some less refined questions and parts of his game compared to Jalen Waddle. Yeah yeah I'm surprised that you're saying that I think it's very true. I have Luther burden is one round two expensive for me so I don't want to get over our skews here and maybe when we get to redraft he's not going to get you. He's not getting you. No he's not going to get you. No and Ben Johnson's like rallying around them and just says like he's the most fun player around so we're going to see he's just he's going to be a round three four pack. Right this is like saying oh I love the killers first album or something you know like you are in very early on them and then you know now they're selling out madden square garden and you're like well okay shit I can't afford it anymore. Yeah. Yeah very true. Very true. All right there's a massive and I mean massive drop off to the next second year White receiver and on underdog that is Matthew Golden who also found himself in round one in his NFL draft but he's White receiver 49 so 28 spots different just at the position and then six rounds different with a third pick of the 10th round just called 29 of 44 targets for 361 yards zero touchdowns in the regular season did have one in the postseason. This is a big conversation to have because you and I relentlessly drafted Matthew Golden last all season was that wrong or was this just a weird season he had in year one. It was wrong but I think it's a different conversation of is he for sure bad I think the answer to that is he's definitely not bad like I know that the per game numbers were dreadful he was in a rotation he played about 50% of the snaps we hopefully won't see that snap rate continue I actually think that he's very live to be a near full-time player just because Jaden Reed has been pretty pigeonholed into the spot. If it continues we're never drafting a Packers White receiver ever again like they have three guys and that's it. Those should be the three. So it comes down to is Matthew Golden good because if he's good he's going to be in fantasy lineups. I think it's kind of uncertain but I'm leaning more towards he's good than he's bad. He was operating as a downfield threat for the Packers he was nearly on the receiving end of a couple really long touchdowns where Jordan Love either barely overthrew him barely under through him. There was one where Matthew Golden caught the ball about four or five yards away from the sideline and then just like ran out of bounds I think he still would have been running if he kind of knew where he was. I thought that he was able to kind of stop on a dime and incite on occasion but for the most part was kind of like kept in this vertical role which is not that fantasy friendly because we're looking for targets here and just how balanced the offense is you're not going to rack up a bunch of targets. I thought he was just moving with definitely a lot of pace on vertical routes. I thought he had some really quality after the catch moments. We just didn't see a whole lot of them because I can see someone start and stop at a pretty high level. So I think he has all the ingredients to be labeled as a fantasy football sleeper. I want to be drafting him and I think that he should be going really close to to Jayden Reed because I would guess that Matthew Golden is going to play more snaps than Jayden Reed does this year. Let me just say I'm drafting a lot of where Matthew Golden is being selected right now. Again, this is the front of the 10th round. The other White receivers selected after him are Romeo Dobbs, Casey Concepcion and Wondale Robinson. The running backs in this territory are Rashad Widen, Chris Rodriguez and Jonathan Brooks. So this really isn't pricing in a second year leap almost at all. Yeah, it is saying, hey, this might work and it might not. We were drafting him a lot again last year because we thought, hey, the Packers finally spent a first-round pick on a wide receiver. That means that first-round pick will break through the noise and finally play 80% of snaps. Like you said, we got a taste of that early on. In week three, he played 71% of snaps, week 70, played 73%. But then the week nine injury really derailed him. It was, I believe, a wrist injury and a shoulder injury. Yep. Yep. And then just wasn't the same player ever since. And that also coincided with Christian Watson returning to the team and Christian Watson now developing into like an every blade of grass player. He was so good. Yeah. Now as much as I am drafting Matthew Golden, I do think there's an outcome here where he's just a really good role player as a downfield player, as a stretch field stretcher and tied to a quarterback that takes advantage of that more than others in terms of a really ambitious arm wants to throw 15, 20, 25 yards down the field. I really didn't like his stuff after the catch. Like there's that one catch again since Nadi. There's that one play against the Bears. I would say the other 27 catches that he had. He almost every single time got tackled by the first man. That concerns me because I also thought he was an on the ground player frequently all the time. And they were under thrown balls as you said. And he did very little I felt to make his quarterback right in those situations like he didn't stop or elevate or go up and get it and like try to turn it into a 30 70 contest in those spots. So I think that stuff is a bit concerning where I don't know now he can be the focal point of his passing game. Like I thought maybe a first round wider receiver could be because he's just not Christian Watson. Now it took Christian Watson multiple years to get there and maybe it happens from Matthew Golden. But I just he gave me problems as a prospect too just by other people ranking him as like you know a the number one wider receiver in the class. And I think some of the same concerns I had about him been showed up during his rookie season two. So I'm drafting him a lot because I think it's cheap where he is. But I'm not expecting him to just pull away from the rest of this wider receiver. Right. I think last year when he was getting drafted way earlier we didn't know if Christian Watson was even going to play because he tore his right freaking ACL in January. And then he Christian Watson not only played earlier than we thought he was also way better than he ever was before. And now Christian Watson's healthy. So I think like the really high end outcomes. I think we've taken a big step back with Matthew Golden. And like you said, yeah, there was not very many yards after catch plays out there. Like there was just there's not how they were using him. And then I also agreed that there was some times where his lack of size did hurt him a little bit. He did say he's going to put on a little bit more weight. He thought that the wrist and shoulder injuries were partly just because of landing and not having enough like mass on them to kind of protect him. So we'll see how that goes. I really did think that he had the athletic traits to be a player that should be utilized a little bit more in different ways than he currently was. I think he's going to be the Z White receiver. I think the trading reads going to be the slot White receiver and three White receiver sets. And like you said, Jordan love wants to throw the ball down the football field in ways that Matthew Golden wins. So I think he's going to be a better and best ball pick. I like his price tag right now. I think that redraft stuff's always going to be frustrating, especially if they're as balanced as they typically are. I just think that this type of profile. If he had better spreadsheets in college, we're drafting him in like 75th overall. And right now he's 110th overall. But he don't have better spreadsheets in college. Yeah. I had the college football playoff. And that was like his entire college profile. I agree. Like there's definitely some merits to that. I just everyone on underdog thinks the same. You know, and like sometimes that that thinking leads leads us astray. Again, this is drafting him with, you know, leaning more towards bad outcomes. At least that's like his price right now. And I am not ignorant in believing that, you know, he is going to be just a role player and that that is the only outcome that's possible here. Like there is potentially something more. So yeah, I'm drafting him a lot, a lot at this price. Sweet. Anything else you want to say here? Because I mean, he did finish that playoff game with, you know, four catches for 84 yards in a touchdown. So you did have like that nice feather in the cap of the ending of the season. Yeah. Yeah, I was an awesome touchdown screen kind of ran around a couple of guys, leaped over some shed a tackle or two. So that was a good play. Still wasn't like playing like a ton of snaps out there. I will mention in OTAs LaFlora has talked him up. We've had beat reporters talk him up. And then also he's apparently been like the favorite target for Jordan Love. Like this is really early in camp. But like you at least needed some signs of life and them choosing to not resign, Romeo dobs, them trading away Don Tavy and Wix. LaFlora's calm and saying like, hey, maybe having six wide receivers rotates not helping us out. Like those type of context clues maybe they're saying like Matthew Goldins probably a little bit better internally than how the external world viewed them. And then I also mentioned like you said, those injuries like happened in the middle of the season. And he wasn't practicing. And like that really hurts as well. So hopefully all these little context clues help us point into the direction that hey, they actually think that Matthew Goldins has a chance here, even if most people don't. It kind of sounds like we disagree about him, but I think we're coming to the same conclusion. Yeah, we're probably going to rank him to the exact same spot. Yeah. And like the Packers have other yards after catch threats on the team. Like they have Jayden Reed. They definitely have Tucker Kraft when he comes back. So it's not necessary for him to be be in that area. Okay, let's keep it moving. Next round, we have Jayden Higgins of the Hueson Texans. Y-3 or 53, the fourth pick of the 11th round. Dare I say some of the quietest 68 targets for 525 yards and six touchdowns among this entire rookie class. Typically, you know, when these big tall Y-3s claim a starting outside job attached to someone like CJ Stroud, there's way more buzz heading into their second year than what Jayden Higgins is getting at this moment. But for some reason, we can still draft him in the 11th round. He's a sleeper. I agree on the quiet part. I thought his tape was pretty good. Now he's not going to be super flashy. He's not going to win any track meets. But I thought he didn't like more like real wide receiver stuff than almost anybody in the class. Obviously, Ted Aurela and Mekka were awesome. Like just in terms of pacing, settling down, tow drags near the sideline toughness on zone catches over the middle. And just getting absolutely annihilated. Having a nice frame to work through as well. I thought all that stuff was pretty clean. I would be very surprised if there was like a real breakout here. But is there ways that he can be like a budget version of Michael Pittman, Michael Wilson, Romeo Dobs, Cortland Sutton? Like those are some names that I that I'm seeing with Jayden Higgins tape out there. Obviously, the Texans offense has been brutal to watch and just super slow paced and everything. We just don't love about it. But I would be really surprised if Tankdale given his injury or Jalen Noel are real threats to his playing time. Like he's just going to be a the Texans long term wider receiver to he's not Nika Collins. He doesn't need to be. He looks like the 34th overall pick in the draft. And I think that if we were redrafting today and a team drafted in late round one, that wouldn't be that surprising to me. His floor seems like really locked it. Yeah. I mean, last year in the what opening seven weeks of the season he played behind Savior Hutchinson just from a snap count standpoint. But then we talk about, you know, post by Ricky Bumps and as the season goes along, you get more and more opportunities. You earn more and more of it. And that's exactly what happened. I felt with him for his size. I think he does have, you know, methodical movements like there's not much fat to his game. And I felt the intermediate and downfield portions were even better than the quick hitting short slants and all that type of stuff, even if those improved a little bit as a season went along like against San Francisco, you saw that improve. There was a plan off the line, no wasted movement to and as are developed, I think into a, you know, solid wider receiver to and maybe even some quarterback inaccuracy from both quarterbacks led to a lack of production in some of these spots too. Yeah. But man, I love the press that he has to outside step on this defensive back and then cuts inside and elevates like there are plays where if the timing from CJ shroud and the route gets into a position in front of a defensive back and you throw it just kind of up and away, those plays are uncoverable. They are indefensible, just because of his size and his trusted hands off of his frame and how he positions himself in front of defensive backs and that is kind of tough to find across the league and you know, it's not like CJ is throwing two different body types like he and Nico Collins are very similar. So you can put them in the exact same pinpoint and similar placement. So while Jayne Higgins, you know, might never, you know, graduate into a true wide receiver one, he can definitely be a sturdy dependable player here. And I just hope we get a Houston Texans passing offense that is like top path of league in terms of scoring. Because then that goes, you know, the difference between him being the wide receiver 53 and like the wide receiver 39. Yeah, I think if Stroud goes back to the rookie season, I think that Jayne Higgins would be like a flex starter in PPR leagues. Like I think we've already seen proof of concept from week eight on which is when he's got in the field. He was the wide receiver 42 on wide receiver 36 usage. Nico Collins was in and out of the lineup a little bit there. So like there's like a chance that like with at least some proof of concept here, we see the same exact film. His short area burst is lackluster. I think the long speed. There's a couple plays like down the football field where it's like he's faster than I remember him at Iowa State. And then I think that he can contort his body. So it's not like a super stiff player as well. It's just like not going to be slant and then absolutely bursting immediately after the catch. That's why you have Nico Collins out there. And it was kind of fun to play pre snap when you go to the next play. Where's Nico? Where's Jayne Higgins? Kind of get confused. And then then you realize, oh, there goes Nico Collins. That's what a wide receiver one looks like. But I like taking state like yeah, I'm surprised more people aren't being like, hey, well done. I agree. And look, maybe some of his lack of exposiveness off the line will allow some of the best corners in the league just to stick in his hip pocket throughout the entire route. But if you face his off coverage, I think you choose that up. You know, average corners, he will create separation down the field. And again, I just want to go to when he has positioning and the ball is off his frame, he has a size to miss catches that, you know, defensive backs just have no chance of doing. And so we just need CJ to be up there. We need Nick Kayley to be up there. And, you know, just score more touchdowns. Don't be one of the worst teams in terms of Redstone Touchdown's success rate. And, you know, there's a massive difference, even if his game is exactly the same of Jayne Higgins catching, you know, six touchdowns in a season versus 10 touchdowns in a season. Or three touchdowns in a season versus nine touchdowns in a season. And that kind of isn't just dependent on him, if that makes sense. Yeah. Completely agree. Last note, Dimeca Ryan's, with giving him a lot of credit in the off season podium sessions, saying that he's more chiseled, just looks like he's in better shape. Same. We loved it. We love to see it. I mean, I can't say the same. I wish. No, us with little one that is impossible for us to do right now. Right. And his starting point may be a little bit different than what you and I are working with too. Another big conversation. Let's talk about Travis Hunter, who is still being drafted as a wide receiver. In fact, wide receiver 57, the middle of the 12th round right now. I don't even know where to start on this. I could go short or I could go long winded, but I'll go short and brief. Go short and just say what did Travis Hunter flash in his short time out there on the field as a run. His best moments were down the football field. He got about five of them throughout the season, but he made two of the most ridiculous high point catches out there, which is exactly what he was doing at the University of Colorado. So I wanted to first point out that if he did turn into a full-time wide receiver, he is not a choice route slot guy. He should be more than that. At the same time, there were so many frustrations on the Travis Hunter tape, just pre-snaps. Just like getting onto the field, they were calling timeouts. Brian Thomas had a huge long touchdown where he was lined up in the off sides. There was just a bunch of stuff coming out of breaks. He didn't know the ball was coming to him. So there was a lot of things like I think mentally going on with Travis Hunter. Also, he was too small at times. Fred Warner had to punch out. That said, he's put on a lot of weight. Unfortunately, he's still not a full-time participant because of that knee injury. But he looks more filled out. I think that's going to help him out on both sides of the ball. Unfortunately, just looking at the depth chart, that matters more than anything. They want him at wide receiver. They need him at corner. There was a moment where Liam Cohn was talking and talking about all the mental reps. They have this brand new facility where he can re-enact a game. In that, he said whether it's man coverage, zone coverage, cloud, all defensive terms, not very many offensive terms. So I ultimately think he's a better receiver than getting credit for. I think he's going to best play 50% of the snaps unless there's a big injury. I think it's easy to forget the positive trajectory he was on at the start of last year as a receiver. Like early in the season, as you said, basically only a manufactured touch guy. It was a lot of slot and screen stuff. He was very confused on where to line up. But when you look at the early season wins, that then propelled the Jaguars to the playoffs. The Jaguars don't beat the San Francisco 49ers without his huge contested catch on a throw over the middle field from their own in zone that he elevates over to 49ers to go up and get. The same with the Kansas City Chiefs with another big time down field catch. Then obviously he had crazy production in a garbage time loss against the LA Rams. Then they hit their buy week. During that buy week, we read Duraco, we read John Shipley. Every single beatwriter said something to the effect of, "Don't be surprised if he gets wide receiver one treatment the rest of the way." Then that Crossroads moment happened where he in the second week of their buy tore his LCL in practice. Then the Jaguars traded for Jacoby Myers and then Parker Washington also broke out after that buy week. Then now, based on their off-season moves, the Jaguars have a bigger need at cornerback than they do at wide receiver. A lot of media reports from Inner App port and Cameron Wolf and these guys back in May saying that the focus of Travis Hunter is going to be at cornerback. I actually agree with that. I won't say it too loudly because he and you know other Jaguars fans are going to take offense of that. Overall, how I view it, at least for this season, is what you just said. Travis Hunter is likely to be a part-time player on offense versus if he stayed healthy last year, he might now be a full-time player on offense and have the passing game built around him, but that's not what happened. We're not playing in what ifs. At this point, you think at best if everyone says healthy, he is fourth in wide receiver snaps and that is tough to draft. Yes, I will say this though. His upside is still so clear to me if something happens. If Brian Thomas goes down and then all of a sudden is like, okay, we also need you at wide receiver, I think that he can be a total ball there. If you're in a deeper league, he's going to be one of your last picks, I would hold on to him. You just never know how quick this thing could turn around. I would like to see him because he's put on more weight, not be pigeonholed into the role that he had in offense where 65% of his snaps on offense were in the slot and he only played in three or four wide receivers. I think we were getting there during the by-week. We were then and just wasn't going to happen. You can almost take Jacobi Myers production and some of Parker Washington's and give it over to Travis Hunter. I thought so look, we told you all at least I did to draft Travis Hunter last year and was it a bit of a slow start? It was. Guess what? That happens all the time with these rookies and do we always talk about post-buy rookie bumps? We do and what were we getting during the by-week was everything geared towards him being a focal point or the focal point of this passing game and then the floor fell out from underneath us and then now the offseason is kind of doing that exact same thing because they have guys that stepped up in his absence. Yeah and I think that the knee injuries a serious one. It's like one of the more rare knee injuries to have. Some players have really struggled coming off of it. He's not at full-time practice yet so hopefully we get some positive training camp buzz there. I think he's going to be a near full-time corner and then he's going to be a part-time receiver until the depth chart changes and then the second he's playing more snaps at wide receiver, I want to go all in because I do think the ceiling is just like really spectacular. Hopefully going to year two they've kind of streamlined how much of the playbook he needs to know and those type of things and I do think somebody is blocking reps on offense stuff. He would get thrown around. I didn't see nearly as much at corner. I thought his corner step was really damn good but there was sometimes on offense where he was a little bit too small out there. I think him being really like he's like legit jacks now all of a sudden. Hopefully that helps kind of on the fringes and maybe that encourages the coaching staff to say, you know what, let's get this like 90% snaps on defense in 60% snaps on offense and maybe if he's at an old weight we wouldn't even get that. Look, last year Travis Hunter said that he can play both ways and James Gladstone and all his guys said it. Hopefully that's the case and hopefully he does in the future. I just wonder if that's maybe a 2027 thing versus a 2026 thing on on top of it. So let me ask you this. Right now he's going in the middle of 12th round. Other water severs in this round. It's Stefan Digs who's not in a team right now. Jalen Coker, Rashid Shaheed, Omar Cooper. You know the next round is like Jawan Jennings and Jalen McMillan and Jalen Naylor and Trey Tucker. Lots of quarterbacks. The running backs are pretty gross unless you like Keaton Mitchell here. Is this a fair price? Are you drafting Travis Hunter in this spot or is it like, hey, I really want him to not play in the preseason on offense basically and we maybe get even more of a discount. I will draft him at this price and if he drops even further then I will keep drafting. I mean he's getting price next to Rashid Shaheed and Omar Cooper for a year. to Juan Jennings, Jalen McMillan, all these guys are going to be in three wide receiver sets only. Cluelce she here goes ahead of them. I just watched Cluelce she here is the number one and like I'm not scared of that. Now they have DJ Moore like his upside like I mean in the top 20% outcomes for all these wide receivers. His is like by far the only one that really matters like all these guys right next to him like they beat him on medium projections. But I do think even as a part time player there will be some like garbage time receptions and he will have a couple big plays as they kind of mix them in there. So I'm totally fine with this price tag. It's sad that he goes in the 12th round. I think that's somewhat realistic. But I want to be buying him certainly he's he's a fantasy football sleeper to me. He's got tons of risk. But I mean he absolutely has a pathway to being a top 25 guys at some points. But I mean I'll throw out that should the risk were to even be used for a player that's trapped in the 12th round. Yeah they all have they all suck. I mean Aronda Gadson goes in the 12th round and he's the tight in three on his team. Exactly. Yeah literally. You can play this game all the way down like yeah it's crazy. So everywhere that you just said I I agree with. I just really hate we didn't get that moment of one game after the by-week. Just to see of what like the proof of outcome could be because it happened at the point when he was going to get more and more and more work. And to me it's not surprising that he was also brought along slowly if you go back and listen to everything out of that Colorado program where he wasn't in offensive meetings because he didn't have the time to basically from at the college level. And they would tell him what routes to run from the sideline and then he would just go and run them and he was still freaking good. And so you know now with a year under his belt and a lot of time in the books then he probably does have a much better understanding of each of the three alignments on offense too. So I really want it to happen. I think it might be on 2026 by a little bit nervous that like if this is the season that we have the lowest percentage of his naps in his career at White receiver. Yeah I can see it. I wish we can trade Jacobi Myers back to the Raiders. That'd be a lot easier. But then who's going over the middle over the Parker Washington. A Brian Brian Thomas and can't go not from last year he didn't go over the middle. In camp he's the MVP. I've seen more Brian Thomas tweets this week than I did all last year. But they're talking about clear outs. They're not talking about in breakers. I watch such dance man. I'm getting excited again. Yeah. There's no hitting. So there's no alligator arms there from from Brian. All right many more to talk about here. Isaac Tesla is next. Early 15th round wide receiver 69. I'll say it Hayden on just 16 catches. During his Ricky season he's already laid the foundation for one hell of a career highlight. Yeah I mean like three of the silliest catches by any player last year. Yeah he's a freak athlete playing in a position that he did not play in college. So you have to give him some credit and at the same time he's going to have like a 5% target share. So there's only so much we can even talk about here. This offense is stacked. You have to throw it too. And it's cool that like on those two targets per game he's going to come out with an explosive. But yeah he's he's in development. I think they traded up a lot for him for how many times he's going to get the ball. But he's not going to get the ball enough to matter. If Jameson Williams goes down then say I'm the poor to go to the mood and vice versa. So I knew he was a waste away from him mattering. Man he against an unathletic corner in the red zone. Like if they want to throw the first pass up to him and see what they got cooking like by all means I'm here for it. It was a very good comment that you made that he's playing a different receiver spot than he did in college. At Arkansas he was basically a big slot. Like kind of a finesse player and he would still go up and make these spiraling catches. But you know it was from a different alignment. And then you go in his first catch what against the packers or someone is lined up out wide and just climbing the ladder and toe tapping the sideline. Like there are so many vertical climb the ladder offering catches are working through contact. And then very few crossers over the middle field and then practically no short catches. So I do wonder kind of what we talked about with Jayden Higgins like against good corners. Can he separate one on one on his breaks? I have more have more questions with Isaac Tesla about that for sure. But man the big catches are pretty freaking sweet. But then you look at it and like the wider see for room for this team is even worse than it was last year like Khalif Raymond is gone. But you know the most snaps that he played last year when everyone was basically healthy didn't happen until week 14 but that was up to you know 77% and 63% and stuff. But that's also when you know Sam Laporte missed every game from week 11 and on. So you know it's not just James and Williams face competing with it's also same aborta and they might run 11 personnel 60% of the time 55% of the time that type of stuff. So I like Tesla he has obvious areas where he wins it wouldn't surprise me if he does you know make a leap or if James Williams gets hurt or whoever else then he makes good on it. But this is just not someone with how the depth chart is stacking right now that you can project a major leap. Yeah I was looking at it he had six touchdowns last year and his last two seasons at Arkansas he had five. It's crazy yeah as a wild season. Let's talk Trey Harris LA Chargers few picks later the seventh pick of the 15th round and one wider receiver spot later at wider receiver 70. First catch of the season was a little in breaker versus the chiefs for first down as like an ISO X player. That's important because during his time at Ole Miss everything was along the sideline very few in breakers but when he did you and I got really excited. So I know you went back and watched every single target of Trey Harris what do you say? I think more toughness than like downfield speed that's how the chargers utilized him from week six on which is when he's kind of started getting out there. He led the target of the chargers and targets with zero to two wider receivers on the field he had a 24% target share in that personnel grouping but he was fifth in targets in three or four wider receiver sets. He's a tough player. I didn't see like a lot of sizzle to his game. He had more like kind of in breaking like break a tackle or like fight for that first down on the chargers tape and then the Ole Miss tape was like totally different like you said. So he's got a pathway to be the third wider receiver on the team because Keenan Allen's not there and then at the same time here comes more tight ends, more running backs and then they drafted Brendan Thompson. He was the exact opposite of Trey Harris as a clear out guy. So I don't see a pathway to him really mattering in fantasy. I'm less okay to Johnson or Lad McConkey get injured and then at that point was there enough on tape to get really excited about other than that he's attached to the chargers offense and he's like a serviceable player but maybe you have a stronger tape. Yeah I think I saw it slightly different than you just more optimistic. Like he was almost a sampler platter this year where there was a little bit of everything which again was nice to see after his time at Ole Miss which was the same thing every single game. Yep. There was I thought tight third down wins like third and three slant passes he'd be a primary or hey catch get down those types of things like he would win in those tight situations. I thought some zone feel you saw some routes like curls or the middle field short movements to still maintain space from zone but you know on these elongated plays where Justin Herbert was running for his life he'd still you know stay open in those spots and then I saw some yak flashes as a season went along nothing like that's incredible but just a broken tackle here and then yeah you know some long strides for some gains after that. Like you're saying though I think there's only going to be one and a half wider series that really matter with the chargers right now and I'm putting my eggs in the Ladmukhunky basket. QJ's gotten some love for Mike McDaniel and obviously outproduced Ladmukhunky is going to go off this year I'm saving it for a different show this year's a teaser Quinted Johnson is going to go crazy this year in fans. Okay then we also have you know all the personal groupings everywhere else on top of this too. So chargers was interesting last year with Greg Roman where as you just talked about single wider seversets he was the guy out there I don't think that's going to continue is there going to be a downgrade to then like two wider seversets he probably is not going to be out there either so it's tough because I want to see even more development I just don't know if he's going to have a whole lot of reps to get this development. Yeah I think his four is like in tact like he's going to be in the chargers rotation like he's you know is he that dissimilar to like Josh Palmer who had some moments when like the other guys went down kind of could play different spots I think that's the style play that we're getting with with tray Harris. Yeah the like you said like there's some yard after to catch moments like via toughness and like settling into zone coverage rather than like there goes Jamar Chase after the catch which we were expecting obviously but he's a fine player. Yeah yeah I mean again zone fuel versus the Titans another versus the Cowboys on the extended play. Nice ad lib touchdown I felt first the Minnesota Vikings to work back to the opposite direction in the red zone to find space so if his name is caught upon I think he does enough good things that like it's not just going to be a drop off to the wider seeker two spot on the team. Okay that's basically it for everyone that's being drafted right now but they're still I think four or five names that we do want to quickly touch on Pat Brian's next Pat Bryant was a channel favorite coming out of Illinois just because no one was talking about him I actually thought Pat Bryant did a serviceable job filling in for his role on the Broncos last year, but. you know, when the team goes out and trades a first run pick for Jalen Waddle, then you kind of drop down here in the pecking order and probably what Rollie fills in this offense now is the tight window contested catch because he ranked the highest of all these rookies in terms of Converted contested catch opportunities as passes. We see the same way. He's more of a glue guy to me I think that his upside case is like he's Cortland Sutton's long term replacement because I don't think Troy Franklin obviously Marvin minns Like those types aren't gonna do anything. They still don't have tight end sorted out yet So I do think there's a chance that Pat Bryant will have some moments his playing time is gonna be pretty cap though because Cortland Sutton and Jalen Waddle are gonna handle everything So I didn't think that he was good enough on tape where if one of those guys goes down that in a deeper league He's immediately worth a waiver wire ad and I do think I like him more than Troy Franklin Well rounded is like for sure if I was a GM He's just not gonna get the manufacturer touches that those other guys are gonna get so big body work over in the middle glue guy Everyone seems to love them He's gonna be a part of this Sean Payne offense for a very long time. How many fantasy points that Means probably not too many. Yeah same thing basically happened with Torrey Horton who Flashed in his moments in his role then got injured the team trades for Rashid Shaheed and then gives Rashid Shaheed another contract So Torrey Horton again flash in the red zone some like downfield difficult catches And you're talking about downfield now he probably isn't gonna have that opportunity with Rashid Shaheed Just growing in his opportunity for the team Yeah, he's Rashid's backup and then if JSN goes down That would be like where you actually get more interesting because I do think that Torrey Horton and Shaheed that would be interesting Just to see who would come up with more targets Torrey Horton was a more utilized underneath that Colorado state And I always thought he was a downfield threat and I think the Seahawks was sand Arnold viewed it the same way so Better in bestball. I don't think you have to draft him though jack bash. Do you need to draft jack bash? Should the Raiders have drafted jack bash? I actually like jack bash in bestball more than some of the other names we just talked about Makes me nervous because he's gonna probably play out of position like he did this last year He only played the slot. It was 28% of his snaps. I think both of us liked jack bash as a you know Big slot type and the problem is that's what Brock Bowers is trade Tucker goes in the slot some Jalen Nailers a slot guy. So it's like okay. We can't have 14 slots on the football field Jack bash does not have the vertical speed to matter. I did think that he was tough I did think he actually settled into zone coverage pretty well And I do think that he can catch the ball and then you know rumble forward for for a first down And I think that in those terms he's actually trustworthy Is there a big ceiling here not really unless Fernando Mendoza breaks out, but I mean trade Tucker Jalen Nailer Like are those guys for sure better than jack bash like I'm not sold and I know that bash is better than Thorne It's jack bash one of your favorite 18th round picks right now. I got him ranked in the 180s So yeah goes under after yeah, I think he I think he's somebody that you can mix in on occasion I just don't understand it from a Spitech correct GM perspective of drafting jack bash when you have Brock Bauer's under team like jack bash Start his career at lsu as basically a move tied end a receiving tied end and it goes to tsu and kind of fulfills the same role while playing a bit more outside as as his career went along but I mean in a perfect world he would be a power slot and That's exactly how what Brock Bauer is going to like be featured and heavily featured on this team So yeah, the overlap to me the venn diagram is almost an eclipse here Yeah, I wish he was on a different team because I think that he has enough skills to like be Catch a couple passes per game and like keep the chains moving And I just wouldn't rule that out even though his season was so bad. I mean he had Negative point 17 EPA perturget perturget that is like that's like a bad running back And then his average depth of target was at 7.7 Which is amongst the lowest wide receivers and he was doing that not as a slot Screen guy as an outside wide receiver so like everything that he was doing was like and I'm cutting inside real quick And then I'm sitting the pitch so I think he was pretty good at that But I mean we have to Obviously our expectations are pretty low here That's like jalen knoll who also has like a defined role for his game He was the other Iowa State wide receiver that the Texans took after Jane Higgins Let's remember that you know they had Christian Kirk in this role for The first part of the season and then jalen knoll kind of took over afterwards He is also not being drafted in every single league right now on underdog What do you see when you went back and watched him? I haven't watched him in like full detail But he was gonna be a vertical slot wide receiver and that's what Christian Kirk was like his pathway to playing time It's obviously way up right now So aside from like your From your like film analysis. I'd be curious if tink del does come back and matters at some point during the season like Where is tink del gonna play is that slot stuff like how does how do we sort out that part of it once we get there? I'll even add that I think Jalen knoll should have been in the NFL 10 years ago and we would have been a lot more excited about that So you know when when he had this profile of a slot wide receiver and they were you know Heavy 11 personnel getting a lot more opportunities because the Texans also just spent a second round pick on Marlene Klein a bigger tied-end and then also brought in foster more row So I think they're gonna try to be more multiple these heavier personnel and bigger bodies too And that's just to me they're gonna take jalen knoll out of it like at Iowa state He was fun. He was running in two wider receivers sets a lot I think his size catches up to him way more often in the NFL and he doesn't separate as well as he did before but You know he's at his best getting vertical these deep corners these deep crossers It kind of brings me back to that rookie season cj shroud stuff But he also got tackled extremely easily after the catch So he is almost like the one outlier profile that you look like in this whole wide receiver room where we talk about Nico Collins and Jane Higgins Xavier Hutchinson even You have Justin Watson who has some size to him as well So and then take del is rookie season he played more on the outside as well as like these awesome outside breakers Over and over so I think jalen knoll is like the replaceable talent here when they want to change things from a personal group Yeah, I see the same way he's pigeon holding a slot work and they're just not gonna have enough of it And then even when he's out there you have to go earn a target over Nico Collins And then we both like jaden Higgins so it's just it's just hard to squeeze this Out short term and long term It's odd like I think you and I both compare them to Christian Kirk coming into the league and I think that actually has a lot of Correctness to it. It's just that mold and that model in the best offense is kind of getting phased out Yeah, no, it's a defensive structure. It's like it's hard to throw the ball deep and over the middle when there's two safeties back there or Previously a lot easier. I quickly wanted to mention jalen royals Now not for his tape because he had three targets all season long But it's because he's drawing a lot of praise and OTAs a lot of draft Twitter loved him not this channel Just a lot of other people and because he's rushy rice is probably direct backup We know where she rice is in jail and also dealing with you know knee surgery while in jail I think what jalen royals coming out of school those screens and crossers and then go balls and that's about it I need to see more to really buy into this. I think where she rice is just So good in those skills that the major weaknesses that he has in the other areas of this game Like don't matter because he's so good at those specific routes Whereas I don't think jalen rolls is nearly as good on those routes. So I think he's gonna get hype as the offseason goes along I'll just be a bit more tentative probably than other people Yeah, we saw the tape this same exact way and then at a certain extent like okay You're on the football field of Patrick Mahomes like you're immediately at least interesting. So I think it just comes down to you know how How good was the rehab in jail for for a rushy rice But apparently he's almost out of jail, which is promising his Rishi rice is 80 p's gonna go up because of the reports that he's out of jail Which is just gonna be funny to see but yeah rice right now has barely dropped I mean, he's the middle of the third round right now as wide receiver 13 I mean those fourth round wider sievers are so good at football so good that the risk of these third round wide receivers is like Difficult To the rice neighbors combo. Yeah, for sure But I mean crystal obvious not playing because of blood blood clocks as well So Zay flowers is just like in that different offense So there's a couple guys were like to meet their I'm getting a ton of fantasy points out of Travis Hane and Kyron Williams and then japan day Williams like I'm kind of like I give me an another one of these Running backs in that round or Josh Allen and then I'll have my my wide receiver fun in the fourth round Yeah, some combo of two running backs and then two wide receivers, but namely that being like Round one or two wide receiver and then round four wide receiver Is gonna where I'm going but you can mix in like that, you know, Colson Loveland there in round four you mix and Brock Bowers in round two Josh Allen some Josh Allen at that three four turn Yeah, and if you you can go three three running backs early if you want it works sometimes I have been doing it quite a bit and then just not touching it until I get down to Like I'm super late Okay, beyond like or me like super late All right, I've been doing some three running backs throwing a column none guy for running backs. 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