Target These Second Year TEs ✅ 2026 Fantasy Football

(upbeat music) It's not hyperbole to say that a few of the names that we'll talk about today could define. Could define the entire fantasy football season. A whole new wave of titans is among us. Hayden, they are taking over the league. Out, the unks and Travis Kelsey and Mark Andrews. In, fresh blood, new blood. And as you said prior to us hitting record, this is an awesome group of second year titans. - Yeah, it kicks ass. There's some potential absolute superstars at the top and then even that next cohort of players, I think are gonna be really quality role players with a chance to kind of blossom. Maybe not necessarily this year, there's some guys that are getting in the way. But long term, there can be some real receiving weapons out there and you mentioned Kelsey. I think one of the guys at the very top really reminds me of Travis Kelsey, which is insane to say, but I think he's here to come. This is Breakouts Week. We've already talked about the quarterbacks, which was an also fascinating group. We have running backs and wide receivers either already up on the channel that you can watch right now or coming here in the next few days. So this is the time for all of you to get ahead in your fantasy leagues and the best way of doing that totally free, hit that subscribe button and tune into the show, The Rest of the Summer. Now many of you are also gonna say that two of the 10 most productive rookie seasons at Titan means that these players have already broken out and that doesn't even include the Titan one that's being drafted from this class in your drafts right now. But I also think there's like a tick that these players can even reach even more than they put out during their rookie year. So we're gonna include all the names, all of them here in this second year, Titan Breakout Show and we'll kick things off with Colson Loveland, who already being selected as the Titan 3 in the NFL right now, the 10th pick of the fourth round. What did you see when reviewing his rookie take? - I think Colson Loveland's on pace to be an all pro player. I think that he is easily the best Titan in this draft class. He's the one that reminds me of Travis Kelsey as a receiver and I will not discredit what he does as a run blocker, which is to me very underrated, he can play the in line stuff. They have Colcomet as the other Titan here. They're gonna have a third blocking Titan. Colson Loveland moves like a wide receiver and that's what makes him so special. He's fast, there was moments against, it was Quay Walker on an out route, just runs right by him and man coverage. Kyle Dugger, in cut right by him. Kyle Dugger's one of the most athletic safeties out there, same thing with Quay Walker at linebacker. He'll run down the scene, catch passes, yards after the catch wise, bounce enough, bangles defenders for long touchdowns. And then I also think that he can get in and out of his breaks with that wiggle that we see with Travis Kelsey. I thought he had a really good connection with Caleb Williams in the scramble drill. There was one play where it was off sides. He knew that okay, now I'm gonna run my down field route. Caleb Williams is running to the right. He breaks off his route, goes back to the route right side for a long touchdown on top of that. I was trying to find negative notes on the Colson Loveland film and I really couldn't find them. And once he started playing the back half of the year, he was the bear's best skill player. I'm expecting that to be the case. Colson Loveland's too cheap. Every single time he's in the fourth round, I want to draft him. - As you said, he was really eased into the lineup until about week seven and then from week seven to 17, he was the tight in six in points per game. And he was our tight in one heading into last and if I'll draft despite so much conversation, being around Taller Warn. And it's because, I mean, he makes you so multiple and versatile on offense. I mean, he gives you a numbers advantage on any given snap. And that means you can go, you know, gun four wide with him and empty also. And then he can be the full speed man in motion into a stack like you see with wider sievers. He moves like a wider seever. But then what really gets you going is when you get into these heavier personnel groupings. And sure, that's what all the conversation has been. All this offseason, all the NFL draft and will be this summer. But the bears have already showed you sneak peeks of what they can do. And in those moments, he is the featured player. I mean, there's a 13 personnel look. Again, with shifts and motions against the Dallas Cowboys, he goes to the right side, Colcomett goes to fullback. Luther Burton runs off the coverage on a pure vertical clear route, love of the game route. And that opens up space for a 31 yard corner out. Then red zone three by one set down by three, third down. You can also isolate him versus a corner back. He just shoves him off and catches a touchdown easily into the heart of the defense. And it's not just these three tight in looks. It can also be two tight ends plus a sixth offensive lineman. I mean, you pair some-- Yeah. With like Colson Loveland, with this size, this movement and a willingness to play with some power and strength to his game too, attach to a mad genius and Ben Johnson that's just cooking up ways to accentuate a player like this and is a match made in heaven that gives us-- I'm not going to say an unlimited ceiling here when it comes to tight end production, but a real out that is rare that the tight end is the most productive pass catcher on an NFL team. From week eight on, he-- that was the first game when he had over 75% of the snaps. He was averaging 64 yards per game. He was the tight end for on tight end three expected points. That includes the playoffs. And then including the last four games with the playoffs, 97 yards per game, 18.2 expected half PPR points. Remember, he is a 21-year-old doing this. He's going to be 22 out there. So this is not some later breakout guide. This is somebody that's really young, was supposed to be a baller and was easily the best bear's pass catcher when all of the game's values just see this last four or five games of the season including those playoffs, was just outstanding stuff. So if you look at the projections on underdog, those yards and those touchdowns, six and a half touchdowns, almost 900 receiving yards, almost identical to what we have with Brock Bauer's and then Tramick Bride here. He just gets priced 20 spots lower than those guys. And that's where I think he becomes the bargain of the three. I really appreciate all three of these guys and they're the three best tight ends in football, assuming kills recovering from his injury. Colson Lovelin is going to be an all pro. I think that's going to happen as soon as this year. - I don't love the running backs as we've talked about in Round Four. I do like a number of these wide receivers, but Colson Lovelin here as a fourth run pick makes total sense. I mean, you can draft him easily as a cornerstone piece of your fantasy team and a onesie spot where only, you know, one quarterback is being selected in these top four rounds. And I think have extreme, extreme confidence in it. Hopefully you all tune into the show that I did with Ryan Heath. Last week we talked about how these personnel groupings funnel targets to premiere pass catchers. Go and watch Colson Lovelin's Rookie Tape and you see it. It is personified, it is exemplified in that because a lot of these have your personality, they're 13 or 12 plus six offensive lineman stuff, turns into just two man routes down the field. And one is a clear out and then one is an over or some type of breaking route. And oftentimes the wide receivers are clear out and Lovelin is the one that is running away from coverage behind them. So these plays are set up for Colson Lovelin to have success. And again, you can utilize him and change the formation and change the numbers however you want to. It's just an uncommon pairing of fluidity and strength and it's uncommon underlying metrics that that produces too. I mean, Ryan pointed out that the Bears had three tight ends on the field, which they haven't even better three tight ends at this year with same route involved. He averaged and absurd 4.66 yards per route run and 53% market share. Now that might really happen about 15% of the time this year and 13% now, but that 15% of the time statistically is better than anyone else out there in the NFL. Yeah, and the way they use him in those three tight ends sets is he's standing up operating as a wide receiver. So it's only like three tight ends sets by name. He's moving like a wide receiver out there. All right, just really quick. If you want to turn on the Saints game, just completely pancakes. Carl Granderson is like a 265 pound defense event isolated. So the ground game, he's very, very strong down there. And this was him coming off of an off season. Remember where he had the draft was not able to participate because of a shoulder injury. Show's up to training camp. And that's why the first month of the season felt slow. Now we got an entire normal off season where he's not part of the draft, not recovering from surgery. And you removed AJ Moore. And now Ben Johnson, who's the guy that drafted Colson Loveland top 10 has the foundation and the tape to be like, yeah, this guy looks like a top 10 overall pick at tie-dend. So I'm really expecting Colson Loveland to lead the Bears in all receiving categories this year. And I would not be surprised if this year's training bride, somebody that we know is very good at football that takes that next leap, I would not be surprised if Colson Loveland kind of reaches that tier. Well, put a pin in the Colson Loveland versus Luther Burton conversation because the Bears love having both. But you on your fancy roster almost certainly can only have one because there are about five picks apart there in the middle of the fifth round. I pose this question to Ryan. And I'll pose it to you after you and back and watch all the Bears stuff. We rarely see a team live out of 12 personnel or live in heavier sets. And that be above a 50% mark. You mentioned that TJ Moore is gone. They did not replace him with really any semblance of a third-writers' fever on this team. Do you think the majority of the Bears plays this year will be out of these heavier personnel sets? Yeah, I've done the projections myself. I think around 50% would make sense. I think that's like 12 personnel plus 13 personnel together there. I do-- High six offensive linemen and two tie-dends and all that stuff. Right. And adding the most important part and we both posted clips on this. is that when he's in that, he's running his route, 15, 25 yards down the field. -Right. -This is not him. -The 31 yard games. -Right. -Back to back 31 yard games when it's out of, you know, heads or sets. -There's Deacon Dunk. I'm in the flats tight ends, and then there's the Colson Loveland type, the George Kiddles, who are working way down the field. There's different levels of this play action stuff, and Colson Loveland is on the fun side. -And like, when you talk about red zone and those areas of the field, too, like, this play against the New Orleans Saints stands out to me where they show six in a pressure, so it's hat on a hat on the outside. And all he simply does is run out of difference of back, use his size to yards beyond the sticks on a third down play, and just, you know, seamlessly picks up a first down. He can be, I think, more and more trusted in that area. I'm trying to pull up his red zone numbers this year. Yeah, I mean, he was only targeted only 14 times inside of the red zone this year. That's the same numbers like Aronde Gads and the same number as Chimiri DK, the same number as like Quentin Johnson this past season. And so, as you said, what really unlocked the Tramwick-Bride ceiling was, you know, his quarterback actually targeting him and throwing him accurate footballs inside the 10 and inside the 20-yard line. And I think that's not just a volume thing, but also what we can get an outcome here where, you know, he doubles his red zone touchdowns from four last year to eight this season. -Yeah, and to be clear, like, Tramwick-Bride stats are going to be almost impossible to replicate here just because everything kind of fell in the place here. The Bears are me too good. There's too much competition around Colson Loven for him to, like, you know, have that level of season, but just, like, on tape and, like, what they're providing for the offense, I do think is very similar. -I think compared to that Tramwick-Bride last year, 32 targets inside the red zone. 19 catches 10 touchdowns in that area. He's sweet. Okay. The next tie-dend in your fantasy drafts is actually also a rookie, but it is two rounds later. And that is Tyler Warren, the tied in four 65th overall, the fifth pick in the sixth round. What did you see? What were your takeaways after watching his rookie season stuff? -Very clearly a quality player. He's 256 pounds, and there's some moments where he just looks way more athletic than somebody at that size. Like, there was a couple times where he is more of the leak amount, catch the ball, and make somebody misinitiate, rather than, like, winning with, like, true speed, though he's not slow by any means. He's kind of a creative player that Shane Steikin, I definitely, very obviously, was scheming up plays for as they should because he's that type of player. And then second to all that, he is a decent enough blocker. He's got a lot of mass. I thought that he was maybe a little bit overrated in that department, but because he's 256 pounds, he's not going to leave the field. So for fantasy purposes, he has the two skill sets where he's getting manufactured touches and he's not coming off the field. That gives him a tied-end one-four. We saw that especially early on the season when he had dandled Jones healthy for the first 13 weeks. 54 yards per game. He was the tied-end six on tied-end three usage during that span. Those last five games with dandled Jones, who's playing through that injury, only 41 yards per game. And then without dandled Jones, that dropped to 30. So we have these crazy splits with Tyler Warren that we should care about. And then on top of that, they lose Michael Pittman, who operates in the same exact place that Tyler Warren does. There's less dandled field stuff with Tyler Warren than we see with Colson Loven. A lot of it's really within the first 10 yards. And that's really how he was used at Penn State, too, where I thought he wasn't the greatest route runner. He was just so physically gifted and unique that you just keep scheming him the ball up. I don't see how that's going to change with the cold. I think they're just going to double down on that. I feel very good about him. I'm not going to rank Tyler Warren any higher than the tied-end four with how everything is standing right now. But you could easily make an argument. And I would make one that he might be the best value in terms of in the sixth round for what I think the opportunity he's going to have and how much that really can expand. And already as a rookie, how much he was a focal point of what the courts want to do. Just from an individual standpoint, he is fearless. He's strong, he absorbs contact, he wants to be the hammer after the catch, too. I would say he's probably their best screen guy. It's what you pointed out with his yards if the catch and his fluidity. I mean, there were multiple times against the Denver Broncos where he made linebackers in space just grab air and just totally with. It's not necessarily like the pop off the scream athleticism that you see with him. It's more that it's compact movements. And again, he just gets north and south. And I think he has a pretty nice feel for the position, too. But what I love that Shane Sikin did was, you know, you motion him into fullback or you insert through the line of the scream match with him. There were tons of plays where he was like the chip in release guy where the momentum of the play on heavy play action was going in one direction. And he was the only pass catcher going in the opposite. Now, sometimes was the A dot on that like two or three yards. Sure, but there were so many plays where three downfield routes were going to the right. And he was the only player going to the left. And everything was designed for him. And just getting him on those gimmies, the hey, the ball is going to you on this play and we can line you up in a whole bunch of different directions. And that was with the three plus wider receivers that they had on the team last year. And now you remove Michael Pittman Jr. Tyler Warren again already has a top 10 rookie season from a production profile under his belt ever in NFO history. But you know, it's 76 catches for 817 yards and four touchdowns. I can see the touchdowns going up to eight. And I can see the receiving yards going up to at least a thousand this year. Yeah, all that chip and release leak them out screen stuff. I think he was second or he was first in first downs on screens with eight of them. And only trail training bride and yards off of screens at the position. I think it's just like simply like he's just a pain in the ass to tackle. 256 pounds. You can get his foot in the dirt just enough where he's kind of bouncing off guys. I think it's almost as simple as that. It's nothing like crazy. Like Brock Bowers after the catcher like wow, like this is this is remarkable stuff. Tyler Warren. It's like a tear below that but still very effective. And then I think that as a route runner, output him more solid than a lead. He talked about this in an interview that the number one thing he's looking for is he needs to have more speed and explosiveness coming out of his breaks. And I think when we went back and watched the tape, there was very few like ins and outs on his tape and slants where he was creating a bunch of separation. Like we said, all of his not all, but a lot of the production is the man you more than manufactured touch variety. That's totally fine. But I do think there's a difference. And this is how we saw it as prospects. Colston leveling out in like the real route is just operating at a different level than Tyler Warren. And that's totally fine. We don't have to compare him to Colston. Loving for the rest of their careers. Colston. Loving just might be that dig of a free. Yeah, I mean, I feel like you and I were fighting against the narrative that Tyler Warren was the clear cut tied in one entering the class. And so we spent so much time talking about Colston. Loveland where I don't want that to overshadow in my mind. How good, how solid Tyler Warren was from, you know, week one of the preseason until the final week of the regular season of his rookie year. Because while, you know, it was a slow build up a bit for Colston. Loveland. Warren was an integral piece of his team from, you know, snap number one to the final snap of the season. You mentioned Michael Pittman and I did too. The Colts last year were top six and RPOs across the league. Michael Pittman, if I did the numbers correctly, was also top six in RPR targets across the league last year. And we've also seen that with other quarterbacks, not just Daniel Jones, with like Anthony Richardson, for example, with the Colts 2. Who are those going to go to this year? Not Alex Pierce, you know, that's not his game. He's also been injured all summer long. Josh Downs, are we even sure that he's going to be out there in two water sewers sets? That's not 100% certain. Those are probably going to go to Tyler Warren. And you can split him out in that same section of the field. They have enough, like at least tied in bodies out there too. And like I'm not expecting his route participation to climb infinitely compared to these other second year league tight ends. He was already tied in three and route participation last year at 84%. It could go up. I mean, he shouldn't come off the field at all. He also had the 11th most red zone targets of any wide receiver and tied end. And we know how there were long stretches of the season that the Colts offense was among the best in the league. So it does give me concern that that drops down. And some of these numbers do have to climb up in order for him to like, you know, be awesome. But I really just want to hammer home how important he is to the scheme to the system. And it's so clear that Shane Siken loves this bully of a man that he already draft. I think there's a couple underlying stats. I think our positive regression candidates for him. They're both in just like the completion percentage world. He had the second worst completion percentage over expected among tight ends and then the third worst catchable target rate. So I don't think that was necessarily a Tyler Warren problem. I do think at the end of the season he was getting a lot of volume. That just had like no chance because of the quarterback play. And then I think when Daniel Jones was healthy, you can see that his fish and see really took a step backwards. Daniel Jones coming off literally a tourney he was right foot. Like that could be an issue here. Absolutely. But if that gets sorted out in other ways, I do think that there are some positive indicators that Tyler Warren could have a little bit better of a season than he did as a rookie. He's one of these guys. I don't see him really busting at this ADP. And there's a lot of tight ends. I think like are appropriately priced without a ceiling. I think Tyler Warren's appropriately priced with a ceiling to chase on top. Totally agree with that. And also third and two against the Denver Broncos. Iso Wimigins Patrick Sir Tann on an outbreaker. Now again, not necessarily routing him up, but it was kind of more bully ball push you off. and create a sliver of space on top of it. So yeah, he's one of my favorite targets right there in the sixth round. I am drafting him a lot at this moment, despite that round right now being heavy and I mean heavy in terms of quarterbacks and onesy position stuff. And there's also other players I wanna chase like Bayesville Tutton right now based on the buzz with the Jaguars and Parker Washington. I wanna chase what he put out last year too, but I feel confident in selecting Tyler Warren for the very reason that you said just like the gimme's that he gets the bluff blocks, the slip and releases, all that type of stuff. It's a it's easy production on a weekly basis. Next up Harold Fanon of the Cleveland Browns just to put them perspective, both names we talked about already were first round selections in the NFL draft. Harold Fanon the 67th overall pick in the third round but goes on to post 72 catches, 731 yards and six scores. So lots of overhaul, redevelopment for the Browns this offseason. What are your expectations for him in a second year? - I know Harold Fanon is a very good football player so it really just comes down to how much all of the Browns overall like you said is gonna matter for his fantasy. Just last year though, do you wanna hit what you just said? He had the most receiving yards by a rookie tight end picked after 34th overall in NFL history. The reason why it's 34th overall is 'cause that was Sam LaPorta. I think Sam LaPorta and Harold Fanon share a lot of similar traits in that they're not necessarily the best in line guys. You can probably tinker with your offense to kind of hide them or use them in certain ways or you know, just run the ball to the other side. But as receivers, these guys offer a ton. I think the trait that makes Harold Fanon so good at is when he breaks whether it's after the catch or at the top of his route, he is exploding out of there. I don't know if it's because his feet are all positioned outward and it's easier for him to cut out field. But whatever it is, it's certainly working. I thought his yards after the catch stuff was really fantastic. I thought he had a lot of heart, even though he's very small for the tight end position. I do think that he at least really tried as a blocker on more of the movement blocks, not like the just down base blocks that you would see from an inline guy. That's like the big question that I have is I'm looking up and down the roster in the Browns. They don't have one. Like the other guys that are behind them are also Harold Fanon types. And I know Todd Munkin, he's a very traditional guy. So that's where I'm trying to figure out this Browns offense. Is it six offense alignment? What are they going to do? All I know is when it's third and eight, the ball should be going to Harold Fanon and I really trust him. Let's put a pin in the blocking stuff because when I want to start with positives, here with Harold Fanon, and two, I think he's, if he was on a different team, I'd be a bit more nervous about his playing time because he might have a true inline competition. But as you said, he doesn't on this roster. I mean, it's Blake Whiteheart and Joe Rorrier and Jack Stahl as the next three Titans on the-- We're some other types. Yeah, yeah. It does make you wonder. OK, put a pin in that. Let's go back to the lower side of gravity stuff because that's a big asset for him. He tries to get these hidden yards constantly. Like he shrugs off tackles. He ducks under them. He really fights on final contact to make those hidden yards part of the offense and part of his game. And that helps on shorter patterns. And then, as you said, as the season went along, I thought, you know, Kemsafanski got a bit more respect and trust in him as more of like a bit of a downfield intermediate player. They did some outnaps and some leaks and some thick screens and some of that type of stuff. But at the same time, you see him matched up against linebackers and creating legit separation on that. So he is 100% going through totally outperform his draft slot. He's also incredibly young and already doing that in the league, which is very different than George Kittle coming to league as an older prospect too. So yeah, he is the only titan on the roster. And he is the most productive pass catcher really on the roster other than Jerry Judy. And you add a whole bunch of rookies onto it. So we are imparting a big opportunity and workload onto him. It's always not stressful, but maybe uncertain when new minds and new head coaches and new play cars come into that because they might have a different view of him. But in this case, I don't think you can have a different view on him that he has to kind of be a critical piece of this offense. And at least with Todd Monkin, he was with Brock Bowers at Georgia and Brock Bowers. For as amazing he is, he is a unique titan that you have to either deal with some of the blocking stuff or lead into it. Like we talked about that with Ladma Confep. Lad was doing more of the intermediate and downfield stuff and Brock Bowers was the one that was racking up all these goodies and all these screens. I would love for Fanon to get those. Yep. Yeah. And then since the Georgia days, he goes to the Ravens when you have Isaiah likely. And I think that Harold Fanon's just like the way better version of Isaiah likely or like with Mark Andrews even. So there's always in history with Todd Monkin of like getting the best out of his titans. Harold Fanon does not turn 22 for another month. He's 21 still. Like even today, way, way after the season. Yeah, like you said, the lowest set of center gravity in the fight for which is really outstanding. He had a route against real quon Smith. Just an out route, kind of a little bit of a push off and just explodes right past. And there was a couple of like screens, like third and 12 situations throw the ball to him. There's four raiders in the area. He's able to navigate it and fight. And then he had a dunk on you touchdown in the red area. Like you said, as he has eight kind of improved down the stretch there as well. So no David and Joku. I think that matters just as much as inserting KC and KC and Denzel Boston here. I do think there's a chance to Sean Watson's a little bit better than the quarterbacks that they had. This last season, the new offensive line and the like legitimately five starters out there. So there's tons of moving parts here. I do think that you can just take. Harold Fanon being such a good football player is probably going to keep him in the tight end one mix. If he's like, as good as we think, there's a chance that he like really outdoes this ADP by the same time. This is the Cleveland Browns. And I'm expecting things to go sideways. Todd Monkin in his past out the last two years with the Ravens, we can bring up the Mark Andrews, we can bring up the Isaiah likely. He also had Charlie Kohler. He also had Patrick Rickard. So these were multiple different types of tight ends and fullbacks out there. The Browns also among the other tight ends that I mentioned also brought in Michael Burton, who has played fullback with the Denver Broncos. So it's not the same types, I would say. Now the primary is the receivers and Andrews and likely and maybe you can make a connection here with Harold Fanon. I say all that because some of the frustration that we've gotten over the last few years with the Ravens was that it was either Andrews or likely. And then at times Andrews couldn't get there because of his route participation and the snaps played and all that type of stuff. Again, just staring at the depth chart, I don't know how we can have that same concern here with the Browns. And that gives me more confidence because when I went watch this blocking stuff, Hayden, I had less confidence in him as a player. I thought he really struggled in a lot of situations as like a pure sixth hand in the dirt offensive line and one-on-one situations gets defensive ends. He had some tough assignments, but he failed a lot of them. I mean, Lucas Van Nass treated him like a little kid when blocking him one-on-one. He kind of stopped his feet on contact even versus linebackers and even defensive backs when blocking those field players. Like, didn't get a lot of push at the line of scrimmage. I thought he wound up on the ground way too often, lost ground even when getting to the second level against linebackers. So that in other situations can remove, again, some of route participation in snaps shares, but based on the roster at this moment, I don't think we should have that concern. - Yeah, and there's no miles, Garrett. So I mean, the Browns could end up in maybe some more fourth down, shoot out situations where they're just chasing. And here comes a bunch of Harold Van Ngarbich time stuff. Yeah, there's definitely the blocking stuff. He's just a boy out there. I mean, that's just the reality of the situation. He's 240 pounds. I think he's pound for pound strong, but the same time mass matters. He's a movement blocker. He's just not gonna be an inline guy. And they were gonna have to figure out exactly what they're gonna do. I do just a team that might use like a six offensive line and then there's something like that. There's gonna be some way that Todd Monkins gonna figure this out. I did hear Todd Monkin talking up that fold back that they just signed as well. So I know he's looking at this and being like, "I've got my work cut out on how I'm gonna make all of this go." By the way, in the five games about David and Joku, Harold Van Ngarbich had a 25% target share that was only behind Trey McBride. So there are some crazy on-offsplits without David and Joke. I do think a lot of that kind of gets countered by the concept seal and who we both liked. And so Boston's a real player in the red area. So yeah, it's impressive that Harold Van Ngarbich could be ranked this high given the circumstances. But it's hard to push a much higher than this without getting really nervous about the Browns infrastructure. - I'll tell you with all that. Okay, there's a pretty large drop down to the next name all the way down to the 11th pick of the 12th round and still being selected as Titan 16. That is Orande Gatson who was a fifth round pick last year. 165 overall was quite silent until week four, excuse me, week six, where then he called seven for 68, then seven for 164 and one, then five for 77 and one, then five for 68, and then outside of one or two games the rest of season went incredibly silent. So when going back and watching all of Orande Gatson's stuff during his rookie season, can we solve this puzzle right now for the people? - Yeah, he's really awesome as a receiver and then really terrible as a blocker. I mean, it's as simple as that, you know, like he's way worse than Harold Van Asgelberger. I know like so much worse. It's he's pretty much white numbers that PFF charts positive blocks and negative blocks. And I don't always agree with the negative blocks. But Gadson had three positive blocks all season long compared to 34 negative blocks. And it showed up when watching that. I mean, he can't reach block on the backside. And so those backside ed rushers then get tackless for loss on the front side. He whiffs on second level targets. He can't anticipate the linebackers and the safety and all that type of stuff. He gets blown back when blocking defensive ends one on one. And then he also struggles to then pin those defensive ends in pin and pull situations. And then even when you tried to hide him with like the split flow stuff, they were just way too many whiffs with anticipating that defensive end was going to be. So it was like really rough. And that's frustrating because as Reaves pointed out, no tight end in the league across all years, average more yards per catch with 13.6 with as many receptions as a run that Gadson did last year. But that shows you why they went out and signed Charlie Colard, David and Joku and also brought in Alley King. Yeah, we see it the same way. Gadson's just it's as much of a physicality issue as it is just an assignment issue, which makes sense because at Syracuse, he was basically in an air raid offense operating as a slot wide receiver. Now there's a reason why he had that role and there's a reason why he had that role as a charger. He is a like almost like a very legit wide receiver just in a tight end ish body here. I thought he made as many spectacular catches down the field as anybody in this class. He'll go up and high point it. He's really acrobatic out there just in her because he throws the ball on a frickin laser beam. So many times the ball is up and away and Gadson can kind of track some of those things down. There was also moments where underneath in cuts where he has the fluidity and the ability to sink his hips and make those positive plays. He's got enough speed as well. I firmly put him in the Mike Gassicki to Darren Waller type of tie then where I think there's a very real wide receiver here and a very real reason. That he's probably not going to get as many snaps as we want. So like during that week six to week 11 run, Quinton Johnson missed some times. He now was kind of hiding and then Gadson was going crazy because the charges were in some shootouts. Even in that stretch, he had a 19% target share and he was still only hovering around. It was 75% of the snaps after the week 12 by way they get more information. His snaps on average sink under 60% of the time. That's before we have the two new additions here. So I think he's going to be at best at 50% snap player. The routes will be higher than that. He's going to have some spike weeks and best ball because he's awesome. The charger going to be awesome consistency on a week by week basis. I don't believe that's going to be the case and redraft leagues for this year. Maybe in week six, send an offer for dynasty because he's awesome. He's attached to Justin Herbert Longterm. Maybe they can figure this thing out. I think dynasty outlook looks better than the redraft one. Should he be going in the same round as Dallas gotter. No, he just can't be. I have my ranked 170 in half PPR right now. It's about 27 inch spots after where he's going. I think he's going to have some moments. I just think we will be chasing them too often. Yeah, I don't know how he can go seven picks ahead of Chico. Quanco right now who he probably compares to favorably, but Chig is in a situation where they arguably don't have a like true. Tied in one who is coming now into a system who, you know, David Blow played under Ben Johnson who utilized someone of Chico, Quanco size like Sam Laporta in a lot of different various ways. And they don't have a wider seaver too on the roster. So I don't know if I've drafted around a gatson one time. Maybe that's a blind spot for me, but he's just not the type that I chase after when I'm doing this, you know, three late round Tied in when we go from round 12 to round 18. And it's just because like he's just not in every down player and even close to it. I mean, the chargers only ran the ball on 30% of the time when gatson was on the field. Last year, Mike McDaniel has been known to, you know, be obsessed with his Russian schemes. And that is why like I put a real out there on Twitter. Very evident why they brought in these three other players are going to play just probably more than a rendez gatson this year, even if we're going to miss out on like one or two or three spike leaks. This is yeah, though they can use a full bag. They have got multiple running backs to say I think the general snaps here are going to be probably where you out with him just as a receiver. Because eventually we have to nail just how good of receiving guy he is. He he works almost in like the Kyle pits area where everything is intermediate down field. Only one percent of his targets were screens. He's really like a operating as a wide receiver when he's out in the routed. It's very much not the just I'm out in the flats catch check down, you know, like prime Jason Witten. It's a totally different ball game out there. I think he's pretty good at it. I'm not sure if he's Darren Waller good at it, which I'm hoping he's like, I think he's more fluid than like Mike Gisickey. So I'm hoping between Gisickey and Waller's kind of where I'm hoping for gatson. Which would be a fun player with Justin Herbert long term. You know, Gisickey tested like a free gathlete, but he turns like a boat. You know, it's really tough for him to have these breaking routes. But he's straight line explosive. Gatson is way more fluid. He's like way more in control of of his frame and just his limbs and, you know, ability to stop and start and turn on a dime and all this type of stuff. I mean, the Waller thing is interesting because we know Waller played for Mike McDaniel. This past season because of, you know, a coordinator on the roster had a history with Darren Waller. And even Waller last season had some splits and had some games of like big time. performances. And that was after taking a whole season out of football. I mean, right when he returned, he caught two touchdowns, then a 78 yarder and another touchdown the next week. I mean, he had six touchdowns in a six games ban. Basically, so maybe they can turn a rendez-gatson into like a red son weapon on top of the two. At the same time, you also have like Trey Harris. You also have Quentin Johnson. You have a bunch of different types out there. And I don't have the confidence that other drafters do that are on day gatsons going to be a 50% snap player on this team. I will say this. There's going to be weeks where on the show, I will be touting him because I think it's when the chargers are going to be in a shootout. And all of a sudden, they're in like pure passing situations. Gatsons going to be out there and he's going to be effective. And like in those we have to like target him to do things going to be able to put up some big games. And so, because John Johnson is another comparable where the Saints were kind of they didn't have enough like targets to kind of go around and John Johnson all of a sudden had a tight end one season on an offense that's not nearly as good as what we're hoping for the chargers. So like just because the snaps aren't there does not mean I'm going to be totally out on gatson. I just want to like keep this thing kind of in check and like it's what happened late in the season. And I think that should be like somewhat of our baseline projection here like fully acknowledging that. Like there are some goods here where I could see like a tight end 14 outcome for two skill sets are on polar opposites of the receiving. And the blocking was just down our detrocious. It was bad. Really no team is going to want to like you like stowers. We just did this. I mean, I think it's even worse than that. I mean, it was so bad. And that's what this entire offseason has been about in the league is having people that you trust in in those situations. Okay, Gunnar Helm is next. He's being selected as a Titan 25, the ninth pick in the 15th round. Hayden, this is the second most Titan that I've drafted this all season. What did you see from Gunnar Helm? Plug your ears. I was expecting more as a blocker. I'll start there because he was obviously like the more in line guy versus Chica Cuoco. He's got decent enough size. He's like six foot five. He does it like through like fully filled out in terms of his frame quite yet. And I did think that there are some times where he kind of got ragged all in there sometimes where he had some rookie mistakes. I'm hoping that he gets a little bit bigger and that you know the experience is going to help him out there. So I would not call him a great run blocker yet. There's a chance that he can turn into that in terms of yards after the catch stuff. Not a whole lot. I will give him credit. I do think that he has a nice like catch radius and there were some plays by the sideline where he was going up and catching the ball. There was other times where he had a drag his toes and extend away from his frame. And I liked him doing that. I thought there were some times when the ball was low and he didn't really have the athletices into adjust there. But I do think there's a kind of this like crossing route up and out type of guy. Scramble drill come back to the sideline. I think that he can do that. So he's a he's a better athlete than when he broke his ankle in the combine running the 40 yard dash. But at the same time he was the guy that's springing his ankle in the 40 yard dash. And I kind of felt that on tape a little bit. Don't get me wrong. I don't think that Gunner Helm is one of these day three tight ends that has this massive ceiling and he's going to explode. But when you just take a top down view of this roster, the other tight ends on the team are Daniel Belinger who has a history with Brian Debal. Kyle and grandson who you know has bounced around the league quite a bit. That there is a pathway for me that Gunner Helm just simply explodes when it comes to just his opportunity and time spent on the field. He only ran a route on 38% of his dropbacks last year. I can see that easily double this season. He should be in every down nearly every down tied end for this team. I didn't have the same concerns as you as a blocker like everything is just going to be a stalemate. not someone who's gonna move and he went off the line. If it's just, hey, we're stuck at the line of scrimmage, and I accomplished my assignments, and the runner goes the opposite direction, or cuts off me, and that's totally fine. That's all I wanna do. Does he have the athleticism to shake defenders in the open field, probably not, as he explosive, not really? But as you said, he does make tight window catches. He snatches the ball away from his frame. He sits in zones with subtle moves and makes himself pass-friendly. And I think he utilizes his size in a bunch of ways. And so when we're talking about Dr. Frank and signing these late round tight ends, he is someone that I really am attacking, because I think it's kind of fitting that he's staying next to AJ Barner in drafts. Now, they're very different types, 'cause AJ Barner is a freak of a blocker, but he shows you that if you're on the field and all these sets, then you have a great chance of just simply catching touchdowns when you're on the field. And I think Gunner Helm has a chance of doing that. - I think he definitely has a chance to do that. I think, like you said, the ceiling's pretty low here, especially in the Titans offense. It really kind of comes down to, is Juan Delegant to be a guy, is Calvin really gonna be a guy, Carl Nell Tate, 'cause if he is the fourth guy in the pecking order for targets, which is how I would project it, I think it's a little bit difficult to get there, even if he's kind of an every down player. And I would not discount, you know, day ball and bellinger, you know? Like that, just like, I can see this one kind of sneaking in there a little bit here. Yeah, there was one chart that I had where it was catchable ball rate and EP for target. And he quietly had a really high catchable ball rate, which like caught me by surprise, 'cause you know, like all the other Titans did not have that. And he just did like very little with that. And I think that's just like, I think the lack of wiggle out there in general. So, Barner, I think like my like Greg Dolsich, I think offers more of a receiving profile than Gunner Helm, if I'm gonna take it like dark thrill. - I don't really see Dolsich in him as comparables, 'cause Dolsich was like purely a receiving type of that kind of like ruin to this blocking. - Okay. Yeah, this is more just like ADP, I just need to know who I think's gonna be on the field enough and catch enough passes. And there's like no whaty that Dolsich is competing with where I think that Ridley, Wando Robinson and Cardinal Tate is light years better than with the dolphins or kind of dealing with. So, it's not that Gunner Helm's like the worst pick ever. I just think like if he starts picking up steam here, I would just get back to the tape. Everybody come back to me and make sure that you wanna really double down on this. - Well, I mean, again, we're talking about the 15th round here. So I know I'm gushing with optimism. But we're also again, having it in the context of who he's being drafted around. Nick Singleton, the fifth round rookie running back on his own team is being selected. - That our favorite. - Three picks later. Earlier in the round as Aaron Rogers, Isaac Tesla, like the Titans in this round are Dalton Schultz and AJ Barner. So he's very fitting here. And I just think from people maybe underrating his skills because of how little he played last year, there is a chance that while he's being drafted in the Titan 25, he finishes like the Titan 16. Like we're AJ Barner finished last year. - All right. Yeah, I see a little bit differently, but that's why we have a podcast. - Okay, let's keep the podcast going. Because next up is one of the more eye popping statistical profiles last year in the league. Terrence Ferguson is the 11th pick in the 17th round. Still the Titan 31. Now this is on the Rams who still have Tyler Higby, still have Colby Parkinson. They added Max Claire in the draft, but Terrence Ferguson at 31 targets last year, Hayden, 15 of them were 20 plus yards down the field. What did you see when watching my guy T-Ferg? - You can say this is like the most unique Titan season like of all time if you wanted to. Just because his eight out was 18 yards down the field. Like you said, 18 yards. I mean, the next closest, if you hit the right thresholds here, was Darren Waller, he was at 10.3. He almost doubled him up. And the way that he would play, he was not often in one or two Titan sets. So he was in like the three Titan sets, and then he was operating as like the down field clear out guy and on occasion work all the way back on the corner route where Matthew Stafford, him wide open for a touchdown. So it was as unique of a profile as you can get. The reason why Sean McVeigh uses him in these ways, by the way, he also like third and five, he would be the Titan. That would be out there. There's like a pure receiver. It's because he can run like the wind. And like that's where he just trying to find the mismatches way down the field. He's like, all right, you're in base personnel. You're the third linebacker on the team. So it's like the 49ers without Fred Warner. Like, we're going to guys that probably shouldn't even be in the NFL. Let's send Terrence Ferguson down the seam and see what happens. My question is, was there anything else that got you fired up? And is anything the second parts that even bigger is has anything changed because they reassigned Tyler Higby this offseason to multiple years. Colby Parkinson's, I think, really actually a pretty solid player for him has anything actually changed here. OK, I'm fired the fuck up about Terrence Ferguson. OK. And sure, it might not happen this year. But we can also be sitting in the same exact spot next offseason. And we could be looking at just the 12 personnel duo of Terrence Ferguson and Max Claire pretty easily. And that's extremely exciting for a team that is going to love running these heavier personnel sets. But just from this season, OK. In a way, and stick with me here, he kind of replaced 2-2 out well last year in terms of like target distribution. And there's the field that he attacked. You ask me, what else gets me going about him? He gets after it as a run blocker. I really think so. Like he drives into defenders. He plays until the whistle. He works down the field. He goes from, again, stop to start. He wants to get after it in that area. And he is so explosive. Like he might reach that moves differently tear when just running in a straight line down the seam and getting vertical. So if we get more production this season, it could come in this one area. What if Kobe Parkinson, who has dealt with a ton of injuries, who is 27 and a half years of age, who is not as explosive here as Terrence Ferguson? What if he either gets injured or is on a discloser? He'll understupid like that. Last season, Kobe Parkinson was among the league leaders in terms of red zone targets. I mean, the only players with more red zone targets last year, George Pickens, Jamar Chase, Hunter Henry, Jake Ferguson, Christian McCaffrey, Devonsey Adams, Tramik Bride, and Amanar Hussein Brown. That's it. He had 20 red zone targets and six red zone scores. So if I'm just looking at this, could we get to a point where it's Tyler Higby, Terrence Ferguson, and Max Claire? Like Max Claire is the weird part about this. If he wasn't added, then I could make the stronger case for T-Ferg. But just another year in the system, I do wonder if maybe he absorbs some of those high value target. He has to, to even get on the radar. I mean, he caught seven receptions, including the postseason, in one or two tight and sets. And three tight and sets, he had five receptions. So like, he has to do that and then do more is what my point is. After sitting here, nothing against Terrence Ferguson. I think he's a totally fine player. He's an exciting, unique player. I enjoyed what Sean McBae was cooking. We have to start drafting Colby Parkinson. I mean, Colby Parkinson, there's a reason. Do you know why he's probably a red zone threat? Is it because he's like six nine? Is that maybe the reason why? You know, he's a big guy. He can block. He was doing the play action out in the flat stuff. Colby Parkinson was the Titan 17 last year. It goes undrafted. Look, it's not the most exciting pick. Colby Parkinson on a just pure baseline outcome definitely projects better than Terrence Ferguson. If you want to sell me on the 95th percentile outcome being better for Terrence Ferguson, by all means go for it. And best of all, I understand that's what we're somewhat trying to do here. But Colby Parkinson's is there for a reason. And then I was, I kept going back to the Tyler Haguey contract and I could not believe he got another two year extension this offseason. He feels like every single offseason, he's getting a two year extension. I kind of liked Max Claire on top of that Davis Allen has been around the program for a while. So I don't know how they're going to sort this thing out. I just got nervous and like, okay, Sean McVeigh has a like pathway to get Terrence Ferguson the ball. There will be a couple of long touchdowns. They will be very fun. I'm a little bit nervous that we're going to end the season with 19 receptions. And I'm not sure if I want to sign up for that. Again, I'm sure Sean McVeigh reviewed all the tape after the season. He saw what Terrence Ferguson put out there with his athleticism again in my eyes, his willingness and competitiveness as a blocker. Why do you think then that he leaned to it even more and drafted Max Claire because this is one of those players that if Max Claire wasn't on the roster, then I would get very fired up about Terrence Ferguson and the leap that he could be. I don't know. I don't know what happened in the draft. They spent a pick on a backup quarterback and then a the tight end for on the roster. I don't know why they did that. Colby Parkinson is totally like a very totally fine NFL starter. Higby is obviously aging, but they are for whatever reason love them and then to think Ferguson did enough, like we said, reviewing the tape. I will say Ferguson did not come down with a couple contested catch situations. I was kind of on my nerve a little bit now. Contestive catches are a little bit different when they're 35 yards down field. Those ones are a little bit harder to corralled than like an eight yard hook where the linebackers coming over the top, but there was a couple of explosives that he did not come down with for a variety of reasons. That's nitpicking. Colby Parkinson is going to be out there a lot unless Terrence Ferguson eats his lunch and that's possible. I just don't think it's the more likely outcome here. Let's move on. The next three names that I'm going to bring up are not being drafted in fancy leagues out there. Everyone knows the New York Jets selected Kenan Sedeek in round one that was after taking a round two. player in Mason Taylor 42nd overall just this past offseason Jason Taylor's son. I wanted to bring his name up because we're not expecting a whole bunch of receiving production, but at the same time, you know, this team also has three water seevers on the field. So what are you expecting the balance of Ken and Cedique and Mason Taylor to be after rewatching Mason Taylor's rookie year? I thought Mason Taylor was a pretty solid player in general. I thought he had maybe the best blocking tape out of all of the guys that we were talking about. I thought he really got after it. I could put like him like Colston, Lovellyn maybe it's like the top guys here, but I thought he was actually pretty effective at it. He's got great balance and then athleticism. So like any of these like second level blocks, he can really handle. And I think he's got a lot of power for like as an in line guy, given his size, he's not a 260 pounds here, but he's 251. And I wouldn't be surprised if he's a little bit bigger than that. So I thought he totally passed the test as a blocker. He's got a future being an in line guy, maybe a little bit nervous for Ken and Cedique that like Mason Taylor could sit up there and block a lot. In terms of receiver, I think that he's you know, on you know, he's he's Dalton Schultz. Is he Jake Ferguson? He's not clearing that. Yes, it's that he's I think very reliable. I didn't see him making a lot of mistakes. I did think that he had a couple times beating linebackers to the first down marker, which I thought I saw in college as well. There's nothing really flashy beyond that. I thought he had some tough grabs over the middle, but it was definitely more on the lower ceiling tie-dend in terms of the receiving stuff. But did feel like somebody that if we didn't have Ken and Cedique out there, I think on tape review, I'd have been like, he's on pace to be a second round tie-dend, not Sam LaPorte, but just being like an effective player. But now he's got you know, multiple first rounder, Cedilla. It's interesting. I think I could use all the words that you brought up and you spun it in like a positive way. I think I get you all the same words and kind of spend it in a negative light too. Whereas like what's a standout trait to me, I didn't find one. He's like very easy. Physicality-ish. Yeah. He's very vanilla. I mean, even as maybe we just disagree on his blocking, like he spent a number of snaps as the move slash H-back guy in a two point stance this past season. Now obviously he's expected to be the primary inline guy. But I didn't see someone as consistent or dominant as a blocker that if Ken and Cedique, despite being a smaller player, shows competence there that will then keep Cedique off the field. Now that's what they want to do, right? This is the 12 personal looks that they want Mason Taylor to grow into. I just think overall he's an extremely replaceable talent. And while I liked him as a fluid player, the fluidy shows up more in the routes, but not after the catch. I mean, he's just not a yak threat at all. He falls down without anyone touching him. He doesn't stay up through contact. It just looked like above average to average athleticism. So, yeah, he just, now I've said Kate Oton has been replaceable in the past and no one has replaced him for many years too. So, uh, these guys kind of hang around. They didn't spend a first round, you know, top training overall selection on Kenan City. If Cedique is Vernon Davis, then we will not be talking about Mason Taylor often. If Kenan Cedique, you know, is Noah Fant, then I think then Mason Taylor will be annoying is kind of where I'm at here. Like he, if we were redrafting it, I think he would go definitely go after Harold Fanon. Uh, by do think he would go ahead of Elijah Royo and those types. And I would not be surprised because like a late second rounder after kind of watching him. I just think the upside cases, I think are a little bit hard to sort of, especially what they did with the draft here. Okay. Let's talk about Elijah Royo since you brought up his name. I mean, this show last off season made me watch AJ Barner more than I was anticipating. And it made me bring up AJ Barner's name in a big way all off season and especially when Noah Fant got cut. Uh, I said, Hey, pay attention to AJ Barner. He's going to be out in the field and my mentions were filled with no, you idiot. It's Elijah or a season. Uh, now those people weren't the only one saying that. You remember John Schneider saying that someone in the staff believed that he could play X, slide receiver. Now let's see how it's no a thing or two. They just won the freaking Super Bowl. But that was the most pointless statement of all time. So do you think there's a pathway for Elijah or Royo to play more this year? Um, maybe a little bit more not enough to be fantasy relevant. I mean, I think Barner is like teetering on like your top, top 10-ish tight end league, like all around. So I think that's going to be a problem. And a rollo can't really run and there were some elements of that on his rookie tape. It just happened on such low volume. But there was some times where it's very clearly, Hey, we just don't think that this linebacker can keep up with a rollo and usually they were right on that. It was just there's very little in between that in terms of, you know, the blocking reps or getting out into the flats and like more underneath manufacturer touches. It's more likely that we just believe that he's faster and let's use him in that capacity. Now if the Seahawks aren't quite as good this year and they're just throwing the ball, uh, more times per game because they're not blowing everybody out like they did last year, then sure like the overall depth chart here is not so outrageous beyond JSN that somebody else could kind of creep up. Um, I would guess that's just going to be AJ Barner. So I kind of want to double down on your take from last year where AJ Barner to me is like the late round tight end this year. He's not going that late. By I do think he's really good. I do think that the depth chart in general in Seattle is up for grabs and I would be, you know, betting on AJ Barner winning out. A Roy just didn't play enough last year and it's to the point with me that he has the same issues as a run blocker that he did at Miami where he's just a waist bender that if you move out of the grass for him, then he's going to lose. He's going to let go of his latch that like if something happened to AJ Barner, one, I think Seattle's offense would take a step back. And then two, I'm not certain that Elijah O'Rourough would just step in seamlessly like a committee. They might trust Eric Souther to do that a little bit more than Elijah O'Rourough. Like he can be a fun role player. Um, but even as a pass catcher, he's a notch down from Aron de Gatson, for example, like he might just be a notch down from Aron de Gatson overall unless he takes and there is a chance that he is and you know, makes a leap as a run blocker. I just didn't see it at all from his rookies. Yeah, I think there's a chance. I mean, he's got like 15 pounds on Aron de Gatson as a comparison there. He's definitely just straight line speed is the calling card and then everything else is in development. And then with AJ Barner, he's not as fast as Elijah O'Rourough, but he's very good at everything else. I don't think there's a wally pipping that's going to happen here. It's going to be AJ Barner first and then Elijah O'Rourough on like, you know, and pick up not for, you know, redraft. Okay, two more. One Jackson Halls don't need to say much. He really is a six offensive line. You can catch a few extra passes. And it's at the point where the bills were among the league leaders in terms of six offensive line use. And once they drafted Jackson Halls, they just stopped doing that and ran more tight and set. So, yeah. You know, we talk about players progressing as blockers, but not necessarily progressing as wider sievers and pass catchers. I'm not sure if there's a lot of upside for Jackson Halls to progress as a pass catcher here. There's not, but he did have like three catches, like 30 yards down the field where it was just like, oh shit, there he goes. And, you know, Josh Allen could put it on the money down the field. So like, he could have five touchdowns in a season. Like, I would not put that past the music and be a target share guy. Absolutely not. And the final one is Mitchell Evans of the Carolina Panthers. I think we both really enjoyed him coming out of Notre Dame. Just a very solid player was a mid fifth rounder. And then immediately comes in and kind of makes his mark like the he's better than Jotavia and Sanders. Yes. I just am never buying into this Jotavia and Sanders stuff. He's, you know, billed as an athletic tied in, but then show me the athleticism is not there. So, Mitchell Evans to me at the very least is, you know, out there in 12 personnel. But one Tommy Trimble misses time or two. If Mitchell Evans takes the next step, I could see him playing the most snaps of all tight ends of the Panthers roster. I thought Mitchell Evans showed a lot of like compete. I think that he needs to kind of fill out his frame just maybe a little bit more for being the type of player that he wants out there and like not necessarily super reliable yet. He was dealing with a bunch of injuries in college. I wouldn't be surprised if one of these years he's like clearly viewed as an NFL starter. I'm not sure we're chasing that much of a ceiling. But I think like the craziest deep dynasty leagues, like he absolutely should be on people's radars. Did I miss anyone? Anything else you want to say? I mean, this is a awesome group. It really was. Yeah, we were debating. We want the Tuesday show to be a little bit lighters because we know we have running backs on wide receivers. And when we realized how many tight ends there were, we realized the tight end group is about as deep as the wide receivers were straight up. Yeah. And again, we are asking you to make Colson Loveland a vital key piece of your face team in the fourth round or Tyler Warren in the sixth round. And so, we wanted to spend some extra time on those picks. That's for sure. Because drafting the right tight end just gives you like a natural advantage every single week in your fantasy lineups compared to your friends frustrations of when they are, you know, picking someone up from the waiver wire and drafting him just because he caught one touchdown on one catch the previous week. Yeah, after doing all this research, like looking at these guys kind of the breakout candidates, it still makes me just want to draft the top 12 guys and not I'm struggling to find like the quality, late round guys that we had in previous years. One of the guys that we mentioned is just like was not getting me fired up enough. Okay, I'll do my preview real quick on the Dr. Frankenstein, late round three tight ends that I have been doing. And it's really disgusting. We'll do a tight end sleeper episode here in a couple weeks. Mine, I think my most frequently drafted one has been if we count Dallas Goddard, he's in there. But if not, Chig, Gunner, Helm and Greg Dolsich are three of my highest drafted late round times. I'm done. That's what I'm talking about. All right, everyone. Thanks for tuning in. Shout out to our producer, Weaves and Moe Show behind the scenes. Again, we have running backs and wider receivers coming up. If you enjoy this episode, help us get to 175,000 subscribers. If you have made this far, leave a thumbs up, a like on this video. So more and more and more people can see it. We are on the road to 200 K. The only people that can get us there is you up the villa. Talk to us soon. See you.