Target These Second Year RBs ✅ 2026 Fantasy Football

(upbeat music) Unfortunately for us, the loaded 2025 rookie running by class really never got going. We had horrible situations for Ash and Gentie, injuries to the likes of Amarion Hampton and Cam Skadaboo, Quinchon Judkins on top of that. And in fact, Hayden, maybe some of the more promising and surprising moments came from like true seventh rounders out there on the field. - Yeah, I thought there was not that much of a gap between the top guys and kind of the next tier of guys. And I was kind of disappointing going back and talking about these guys that does not mean that they can't be effective fantasy players. I'm trying to like play both sides of this way to the fantasy appeal, but also just, all right, how close are they to Jumeer Gibbs and Beige on Robinson? I think short answer for me is not that close. - Interesting. Now, fortunately for us, the 2026 running by class, and then if I'll draft, it was horrible. So all of these guys are going to get at least a second opportunity, if not a third. And many of them are going extremely early in your fantasy league. At least five of these names are going to talk about today, the second year breakouts are being selected as top 24 running backs over an underdog at this very moment where you can draft at this very moment. So this is important because we're expecting massive strides and a lot of production and full seasons from all these names when we only got a taste of them last year in a great situations. So we dove in, we watched all the snaps, we watched all the tape. This is the second year breakout week show. Hopefully you tune into the Titans in the quarterbacks episode. And we have White receivers coming up tomorrow. So hit subscribe and watch this because now Hayden, let's talk about that 12th overall pick in drafts right now as they're running back six despite last season, the most forgettable 321 touches you will ever see. Ash and Jenty is once again on our first round radar. What did you see when going back and watching? - I thought he was very similar to what he was at Boise State. He's exceptional at forcing Miss Tackels once he has a little bit of space. So once you aren't contacted at the line of scrimmages beyond that, the NFL average is 0.16 Miss Tackels per carry. Ash and Jenty's at 0.29, almost doubles that. And when you watch his tape, there's lots of guys just bouncing off of them at the second level. And even at the first level when he's hit immediately, I think where maybe I was a little bit disappointed with Ash and Jenty is I do think it took him a little bit longer to kind of get going than what I was hoping for. And I don't think that he has the elite foot quickness of the real true standout players across the NFL. He's more of your throwback type, which we were expecting here. I thought he was having maybe a little bit more burst out of the gate. I do think there's gonna be a lot of changes going on with the Raiders. All of them positive. He finishes the RB 16 on RB 11 usage last year. I still have a ranked as the RB 9. I think he's gonna get a ton of touches. He can handle it. I do there's more room for growth as a receiver. He flashed a couple of those down fold moments even during this rookie season. I think there's more to be unlocked there. I just think there's a difference between some of the other top 12-ish overall selections and recent drafts versus Ash and Jenty after watching this tape. - I'm unmoved based on my opinion of who he was coming to league and what he was able to show during his rookie season. I think he'll win in the exact same ways that I anticipated. Unfortunately, and what we talk about every single week on this channel, what stats versus film, the vast majority of running back production can just be totally destroyed by offensive line play and situations that you find yourselves in. And for me, Ash and Jenty was easily in the worst of this group, and that is saying something 'cause some of these running backs were in horrible situations last year. And all you have to do is look towards the yards before contact for attempt. That was 0.6 last year. Average 0.6 yards per carry before he was contacted. And that is despite breaking a ludicrous amount of force mistakles, as you said with his rate. But just overall, that number was extremely high at 63. There were plenty of times where he forced a mistakal that prevented a three-yard loss that only gave him a 0 or 1-yard gain. And so for us on the I-test, that looks awesome. For the underlying metrics, it absolutely looks horrible. Now, Chip Kelly, also I would say kind of mismanaged this situation, like when you spend that early of a pick on a player, you can't have some rando subbing in for him in pure passing situations. I understand bringing these players and these rookies along slowly. But as the season went along, he did handle 84% of the backfield touches. That is running back to across the league. So while I might not rank him as the running back six, while I might not be drafting him as a 12-th pick overall right now, when we can get into the reasons why, I still am very optimistic of what he can be in a more composed and it just a platform for him to have success in the way. Yeah, I just wanted to play a little bit faster. I think that's partially just kind of athletically to get it going a little bit. I also thought he was maybe a little bit more indecisive than I was kind of hoping for. I think that some of this plays that were used hit behind the line of the scrimmage was on him just a little bit. Obviously, the overwhelming part of that was just the offensive line. I mean, any of them, after Colton Miller was out of there, all five spots were brutal. The tight ends weren't blocking very well on top of that. I thought there were ski issues. You just really felt him going at that second level. When he had some space, he's just too thick to tackle. I think it's kind of as simple as that. He runs really hard. I thought he had really nice hands throughout the season too. We thought Mike Washington's an interesting prospect behind him. He's going to be, I think, a low volume, almost a reheat most of it kind of change a pace guy off the edge. And I do think that Ash and Gentile's bell cow profile here is absolutely going to translate. So I'm in the middle of the second round for fantasy purposes. I have no questions about his ability to handle the workload, catch passes, do all that type of stuff. I just think if you're the Raiders, do you have junior Gibbs or B. John Robinson in your back to the right now? I just think you don't. That's a strong statement based on where he was drafted. I want to give him a season of having just more opportunities to show that second level stuff. Because Jameer Gibbs got that immediately, B. John Robinson got that immediately based on their landing spots. And his running style is different than those guys. But just what I love so much coming out of Boise State was it's not just he was able to force one mistackle and pick up and create extra yards on his own. He like chain those moves together. Once he got two defensive backs, once he got to the third and fourth level. And so, and this is more difficult to do in the NFL, but that allowed 16 yard gains to go for 50 yard gains. And he's not gonna realize off at the same rate. But that was like a rare combo of stamina, like tackle breaking stamina in the same run. And then just six runs later, he was able to do the exact same at Boise State. And that's gonna be more difficult once again in the NFL. But I just want him to have like the legit opportunity of getting to the second and third level untouchable. I wonder if he's gonna have like a Josh Jacobs level career, which I think is probably the baseline outcome. I think that you're hoping he has more Jonathan Taylor, Derek Henry, Sequan Barkley in him. I just think that he doesn't quite hit that threshold. Josh Jacobs, one of my favorite running backs to watch. I think he's gonna have a way better season this year. So it's not like I'm really concerned about Ashton Jensi. I just think you know, the ROI, I think we're gonna look back and be like that was pretty tough. - So often when a head coach gets his first time as a head coach after just being a play collar, we like to copy pace what they did in their previous stop and say, well, this is just what he's gonna do here at his new location. So we know it could be that last year he had Ken Walker, who's being drafted right around where Ashton Jensi is in this like legit cluster of eight straight running backs on Unedog at this moment. Everywhere from James Cook down to Derek Henry and then you had Zack Sharbinay as the backup. So we know Mike McDonald wanted the rotation to keep those guys healthy throughout the entire season. Do you think that Ashton Jensi has a chance of getting the 75% workload, which is a lot more than what Ken Walker's Zack Sharbinay had last year, but actually less than what he had during his rookie season. - Yeah, I would put Jensi's chances of handling as big of a workload as anybody in the whole league. Like I think it's as simple as that. And that's why he has such an incredible floor. Like for how terrible everything went around him, he was still the RB 16 last year. Which is like obviously not what you wanted. That was when the worst situation ever. So like in terms of the floor, his is as high as anybody's. - Let's talk about someone in that cluster of running backs. Running back nine drafted right now, the third pick of the second round. This is Omarian Hampton with the LA Chargers, turned 156 touches into 737 total yards and five touchdowns last year. Now he goes from a Greg Roman offense into a Mike McDaniel offense. What did you like in this like when going back and watching Omarian? - There's definitely two sides of the equation. I think he's one of the most physically gifted running backs in the NFL like point blank period. His long speed is really, really good for somebody that's 220 pounds. I thought he had really soft hands out of the backfield. So he's not like super one dimensional. I think he has the profile to eventually become a bell cow back. But he also needs some like very real development in my opinion. I thought he had bad pacing as a runner. I thought his eyes as a runner were also pretty lackluster. I thought he was pretty late on some reps. And then I thought he was too quick picking a hole on others. It was kind of all over the place. Obviously the Chargers offense of blinded and very few favors. Hopefully that's better with both the tackles. Hopefully healthy. Tyler Biotic is definitely a better center. So you have the ingredients where this thing can actually look right. And when he got to the second level, I mean it was outrageous. He had a couple reps against the giants. Where he turns the coordinates like, okay, that guy should not be running. that fast. And then on other reps, he's drag and giants for like 10 yards at a time, just putting the team on his back. So you really like some of the stuff. I think in general, one stat to before I kick it to you, Hampton's rush yards over expected negative 40% with three or fewer yards to go. And then on four or more yards to go plus 21%. So this like success rate, if you will, is way different when he has more space. Once things kind of got confined in up the middle, he was just not nearly as good partially offensive line at the do you think partially Omar and Hampton? I was going to ask you that and you kind of explained it. What do those two very different outcomes tell you about him as a player? Is it hey, when he kind of runs into brick walls, when he has to be extremely decisive as soon as he angles immediately that yeah, maybe it can be a bit lackluster in terms of his production and his outcome in those versus hey, when you give him a bit of space, which we'll talk about the micritainial facet of this, then a well, baby, we've got something that is different about him. I think that's exactly right. I thought his vision wasn't good enough. So when you have to pick three yards at a time and every little second matters, then it's you kind of get hurt by him. And then when you have more space and he's out running everybody, that's like an extra like 40 yards and another running back would not have gotten. So like, of course, the success rate's not always going to be super high on those, but he makes enough big plays where you can really dream of an upside. And that's just as a as a rush or I do think there's plenty of elements as a receiver where he gets to ball clean the out and swing passes and on those plays, he can go up the sideline too. His profile was very similar at North Carolina's. I thought it was as a rookie. Like you talked about the speed. I'll also talk about the weird tackle breaking where like on final contact, he twists and turns and you know puts his body towards the defender and always wants these final moments to fight for extra yards. It leaves him open and susceptible to these massive, weird hits that you don't see at the NFL very often. But at the same time, he also again forces a high rate of mistack was I think it was 0.27. And then creates a bunch of hidden yards because of it. He's just a different type of player and I would even say he's more athlete than running back at this time in terms of his vision, his feel for space, setting up lanes and all that type of stuff. So I have some not real concerns about him as a true runner, just like things that aren't perfect and aren't ideal when you go through the running back checklist. But then I just look at the situation that he's breaking in and the size of 220 plus pounds with the speed that he has attached now to Mike McDaniel who in 2025 had the running back five and points per game running back 11 and points per game in 2024. And we go back three seasons ago to 2023 had both the running back three and running back four and points per game. So I ask myself does it really even matter what qualms I have and what holes could potentially be in his profile if everything goes according to plan here because you have a play collar, a play designer in Mike McDaniel who has created space at every stop he has been and has a great blocking scheme for that to really utilize a center and offensive tackles and your guards don't have to be perfect which they aren't here for the chargers because he can still be highly and I mean highly productive if he remains the guy the lead guy in this back. Yeah, he's just going to give him off off and running on the edge and that's exactly what he did for Miami for all those years as well and we saw that with Shanahan at times too depending on what style running back they have. I do think that Keaton Mitchell does a lot of the same things that we are used to ask you that because like yeah right right now on face football Twitter there's a lot of I am fading Omar and Hampton because of Keaton Mitchell and Keaton Mitchell has been like the apple of face he twitters a high for a very long time and I get it in like the small sample of touches that he has he explodes he fits in this type he has the juice and that is 100% correct but we know he's a couple years removed now from a significant injury the Ravens could have kept hold of him for very little and they chose not to and he wound up in like the ideal situation for his talents so what is the likelihood that this even turns into a 50/50 split or that Omar and Hampton like you know doesn't just have this outright lead on the backfield. Well the good news is Keaton Mitchell is like 40 pounds lighter than a Omar and Hampton so at the goal line we should expect Omar and Hampton to get all those touches. I do think that we should not discount Kamaniv idol because Kamaniv idol is good in past protection and I could see this being like a three back committee to some degree. I thought Omar and Hampton's head was kind of spinning in past protection and I thought that he was he has like the mass to do it but he is just like trying to light guys up and then there's a lot of whiffs in past protection on his tapes and I do think that they like Kamaniv idol so I do wonder if this is almost like three guys with three kind of different profiles and all of them are going to get enough touches. It just comes down to like how potent is this McDaniel's offense going to be with Justin Herbert and are they going to throw the ball more than we typically see with McDaniel's offense because they have Justin Herbert instead of two us. So I think like the big concern for me is just if Keaton Mitchell is doing a lot of the the stuff on the ground that we like and he's kind of trusted even on small volume there is like some pressure Omar and Hampton does have to step his game up to have this crazy ceiling with the ceiling very obvious. I do think the guys he's being drafted next to they just have much better floor so I'm actually a couple spots lower on Omar and Hampton fully acknowledging he can finish this like the 104 this year and I love the Chargers offense. I just was wishing that Omar and Hampton offered maybe a little bit more trustworthiness on tape and I'm not sure if we got that solved. If he fails it's for the reasons that we brought up you know so I shouldn't just you know shoe those away as an outcome here. I believe it's just far likelier that the first round pick from Massies and that the head coach and General Manager are still attached to this team that selected him there who had some real moments and still creates Chargers on his own and now goes into a scheme that probably accentuates his strengths and minimizes his weaknesses. Yes so hold on to the job you know and some level he is like Keaton Mitchell but plus 20 minutes exactly. Now there's also an outcome where both of these guys are actually good values and it's weird to say that about someone who is the fifth pick of the second run in Omar and Hampton and then like the fifth pick of the twelfth round which Keaton Mitchell is at this point and again we just have to look back to 2023. I mean the dolphins and this would be a tremendous outcome here for the Chargers. The dolphins that year were second best in terms of points for per game at 29.2 and again that was the running back three and running back four in points per game with Raheem Mostert and Devon H&N. Now H&N had a whole bunch of yards he had a whole bunch of receptions and Raheem Mostert went absolutely nuclear in terms of inside the 10 and inside the 15 yard line in terms of scoring touchdowns like the most since John Riggins I believe of a 30 plus year old but Hayden if you look across the league and you stack quarterback and skill players and often tackles and offensive line and play collar I think there's a pathway for the loss in this Chargers to score the second most points in the league this year. Yeah ultimately with my own where I'm Hampton take away it's I can nitpick this thing but it's just a dangerous game to nitpick this so I think he's firmly a second round pick he should not be at the round one two turn I do think you know Amari and Hampton hopefully turns into Derek Henry and Derek Henry gets selected after him so I think we can nitpick a couple draft picks overall here this is the general range that he belongs in and I do think that Keaton Mitchell can pay off his ADP more and best ball because it'd be hard to predict when he's going to have his 40 yard touchdowns but I do think they are coming keep in mind though Keaton Mitchell has one career game over 10 carries so like as excited as we can get here the baseline outcome is Keaton Mitchell averages seven carries Amari and Hampton gets 14 and then he catches some passes gets the goal line work and then all the sudden he's like a low end RB1 so I think that's my baseline expectation and I just really believe in Herbert with McDonald's two Chargers are going in the 12th round we just did our tight end show around a Gatson is the 11th pick of the 12th round Keaton Mitchell's the 5th pick of the 12th round which of those are you more likely to draft the shirt yeah be Keaton the half people are yeah yeah because like you know if something does happen to Amari and then the Keaton Mitchell stuff like goes sky high versus I'm not sure that the outcome case is there for Aron to Gatson to be like a league winner at his Yessish remember your guys though like go type in like Harbaugh, Kamani Vidal like there is like a little fascination like this is not a two person race like I'm telling you this will be there would be three guys in ball tier and turn the snaps just the injury front left ankle fracture week five against the commanders and then he had another ankle injury in week 17 for Amari and Hampton last year one final thought on this Mike Vidal system now for three plus years four plus years in the league his offense is a ranked 5th in yards per rush to running backs 5th in success rate and first in explosive run rate yeah the hampton's fast man he's big and fast and then tries to break tackles and win on final contact yeah so I can say all the rest of the stuff but that's a recipe in this offense for just success I agree yes all right before we go anywhere further our goal this season is to reach 200,000 subscribers now we have to get to 175,000 first and the only way for us to get there is for you yes you listening or watching right now to subscribe it's solely free we are doing our best to help you win your fansca leaks and be entertaining along the way we want to be the source for you this entire summer June July August September all of it to win your face elixir so if you can do a massive favor shout out to those of you who already have hit that subscribe button let's talk about cam scatabo he's next up on this list running back 19 being drafted the seventh pick of the fourth round what a fun player he was in college knowledge, then stay on the late and the actual nofo and averages over 90 yards starting job until what ab where he dislocated his r his fibula and then ru ligament. So what do you Skydabo here entering yo pretty underrated. He fo for lots of extra yards at times out there. It's his body. He has crazy b just because of how he o is and also how nice his top of that so he can a he was the RB 11, RB 8, 14 and 15 in expected p was the starter there. He that stretch. I thought offensive line was kind I think that's gonna be b health and draft picks. O the hard boss. They want the jackson dark comment to feed the ball to cam I thought maybe he's a faster than people were for back as a prospect times where he was beating marker. He's never going running away from guys, a lot of fun things in the on the football field. He and I like Tyrone Tracy, run nearly as hard as cam out of the side. I do feel a foundational back for f I don't know about obvi injury and what that's g did see him do a backfl last month, which pretty got to be like pushing he did landed and seem talked about in preg anecdotal, but every one of the players. He's a and just located there ankle and fracture their fibula. The last four or so big names of a see football have seen massive drastic per touch output drop in their next season. I'm hoping that Scott was different because he is a different kind of cat. He's a madman on the field. I know there were questions entering the league of if he had a lot of fun at the time. He's like a lot of fun. He's the first time he's been to, he's perceived lack of a athleticism and then it's just more difficult to break a tackle. It was one for one. It was basically the same. And I would continue to add that like I think very little about his athletic prowess pops, but he has underrated vision and feel, I think, for the position. And he just simply refuses to go down. He wants to summer in you on top of it. He gets skinny and small was when the tackle was I think really well. But also I thought translated was his kind of lack of ability to pull away in these 20 plus yard runs. But still if you're chugging along for four, seven, eight, six, 12, 15 yard runs, then that always works because he's always finishing forward. So I wish I was a doctor. I wish I went to medical school and I knew how to project him doing this stuff because for the first time in a while, I was just as much as the giants have talked about running the football and utilizing running backs, they invested nothing in the position. And you would think that that means really good things for cams cataboo. And if he was healthy, boy oh boy, this would be much earlier than the fourth round. So there's a chance that this is tremendous value for us, but I'm a little bit concerned just based on recent issues with this injury. Yeah, I think it just comes down to how much of his already priced in. He's the RB nine from the past, it has what the RB 19. So like there's some level of discount. I'm hopeful that the giants are going to be better football team this year than they were this last season and Jackson start going to year two. Francis Mountain know is going to certainly help. So I do think at least some of this ankle injury is priced in here and there are some outcomes where it was too much priced in and they're just going to have a runway here. And then there's no Malik neighbors part of it too. Like if we don't see Malik six somewhere in that range and he's not the same player. Like we're running out of options and like how many passes would he catch early in the season on top of that last note. He had a 40 inch vertical. So like the really lack of athleticism. I think people just got a little bit too carried away with it. Like he's not he has two short of legs to have like a long distance runner here, but in the short area is like there's some legit power that he's playing with some short area burst and obviously like the crazy will. Well, you have to have a 40 inch vertical if you're going to back flip safe. Yeah, thankfully you landed it because I would not have been a good luck. Yeah, those go hanging in. The jumps were exceptional. Obviously like the movement stuff. He didn't do any agility, but like the running elements were not as quick as other backs out there. But so often that then becomes your athletic profile is your 40 time and people stop there and stop looking. So I want it to work. I really want this to happen because you and I were huge fans and then he just kept falling in the draft and then he goes and has an awesome rookie season went out there on the field. So he can be like, you know, not one of the face of the NFL per se, but he's up there as a personality and then play. And then in this system, if this team works, then I think it will be seeing a lot, a lot more of came scataboo because the back field is stataboo, tyron Tracy and Devon Singletary. They changed nothing about it. We saw it. We saw it. They added Patrick Ricard. Kind of. Honestly, they've kind of twins Ricard and scataboo. Scataboo kind of reminds me of Mark Ingram. You know, if things go well throughout his career, like that's Mark Ingram. Mark Ingram. He's on broadcast. Next in the same round at the end of it, the 12th pick of the fourth round. Trevor and Henderson as running back 20. His rookie season over 1100 total yards 10 touchdowns on 215 touches. That's just during the regular season. He is the first Patriots running back drafted by quite a large margin. Again, 12th pick of the fourth round. Trevor on. Then the third pick of the seventh round is Ramanjari Stephenson. So what do you want to say after watching Trevor on's rookie season? I think he really reminds me of Raheem Mostert. And I think that's usually a compliment. And I think that in a good offense, you can have crazy seasons from Raheem Mostert types. Trayvian Henderson when he has space is winning pretty much every single race. Some of those were between the tackles when kind of the C's parted and he hit the gap and he's going to outrun the safety. Other times it was kind of just like a wall. He'd stop his feet. All the buccaneers defenders would close in and then he would bounce it outside and then he would win those races as well. I think that there is more in the receiving game than the Patriots got to. I think part of the reason why we didn't see even more of that out of Trayvian was because one, Ramanjari was equally very good at the time. I think the one thing that was just completely shocking to me is Trayvian was straight up bad in past protection after being very good at Ohio state when I went back and watched it. There's a couple mental reps, but a lot of it kind of just came down to he's 200 pounds. You know, like these are NFL linebackers. I think that's going to be kind of difficult to overcome. I'm hoping his vision gets a little bit kind of sped up. I think there are some times where he was kind of indecisive. Especially earlier in the game, I think there's a lot of things that are going to be around space a little bit more. I thought that was good coaching. I trust Trayvian, the person to improve in these kind of these like more mental ways going into year two and then I have a full faith in Drake May here. So I think you can nitpick some of the parts of his game, but it's kind of like the O'Marren Hampton conversation where when you're that fast and your offense is this good, that it's hard to get too bearish. I just think the one difference is one of the most important things that I've ever seen in the game. I think that's what I think that's what I think is really important. I think that's what I think is really important. And ridiculous speed. He had four touchdown runs last season of 50 and more yards as you were saying that's the most NFL. In fact, that's the most 50 yard touchdown runs by Rookie in a season since Sequan Barclay in 2018. Now do I expect, you know, four more 50 yard touchdown runs next season, probably not in the same exact way, but it is possible if, because his speed to pull away from defenders is ridiculous. It is. insane. Now he has some flaws in this game. I was stunned about the past protection. Like I'm going back and think about the Michigan State tape when he is picking up his assignments and seeing blitzes and you know putting his nose in there. The guys are obviously bigger and faster than NFL. They can confuse you a bit more. The game just needs to slow down for him. I think in that area a little bit. So I want to ask you this is the next part. Do you think it's fair? That there's almost a three round gap between Triven Henderson and Ramondri Stevenson right now. And why do you think that three round gap exists? Do you just believe that fancy drafters have this conclusion that he's just going to command this backfield and take a huge step in your turn? Yeah. I think it's the younger more exciting player. The faster players kind of how we draft things. I think Ramondri Stevenson signed a big contract to live up to it last year. And I think that Ramondri has advantages and two very key areas. One is pass protection and receiving. There was a couple of Ramondri Stevenson receptions. I went back and watched them were like 30 yards down the football field. And there remember one of the quotes being that Traveon was supposed to be on the field. But then they didn't trust him or whatever the fuck happened. And then here comes Ramondri. And the fact that Ramondri can do those things is pretty exciting. And then the second thing is inside the five yard line when Ramondri was out there, he handled 12 of the 16 inside the five yard line carries between the two backs. And obviously when you have every bit of 40 pounds on them, that's probably going to continue here. I want Tradegun Henderson to play with more physicality. I think that's in pass protection. I think that's on contact between the tackles. He can obviously run between the tackles of the C parts and split defenders. And that's awesome. I think it's a little bit different. We're just talking about it's third and one. And you got a linebacker hitting you. Are you able to kind of spin off of that and pick up the first down? I'm not sure if I saw that quite enough, which I think maybe lowers his ceiling just a little bit. But like you said, like there's proof of concept. If Ramondri misses time, Tradeon had 16.5 expected half feet, we are points in those three games. That's R before overall stuff. Right. And we know he can run like the win. So like the proof of concept is there if Ramondri fumbles or gets injured, then Tradeon could be a total stud. So I haven't ranked pretty close. I think maybe this is more like, Hey, Ramondri might be going a little bit too late. He's a pretty quality player in a good offense. Like, let's just not completely forget about him. I was a huge believer in Trevor Henderson's talent coming into the league. I don't think I'm going to be drafting him a lot at this spot in the 12th pick of the fourth round. I mean, we're talking about the next pick being Jalen Waddle, right? Like again, the round five running backs when you look at Dave Montgomery and the workload that he has. And maybe we're a bit too optimistic about that. But who else are going to turn to? Defeat Andre Swift, Quinchon Judkins, we'll talk about here in a moment, Jeterian price, for example, like I kind of like these round five running backs again, more than the round four guys. And there are other water receivers mixed in there that I'm intrigued by too. So like Terry McCorn versus Tradeon Henderson, I think I'm signing with Terry McCorn in that spot. Yep. So it's, it's tough for me to say that. I agree with a lot of what you're saying. He kind of pinballs on contact where he, if they doesn't bring him down, he kind of bounces from this tackler into this tackler into this tackler never forward. But at the same time, that was with horrible blocking. And then the only thing that worked for stretches of the season were those stretch runs, were those toss runs. And then like the offensive running game kind of got going a bit more after that. So and even when Ramancha was out, like they featured him in the passing game when he got to the red zone too in terms of creating some opportunities for him in that area. So just develop a little more, like ease yourself in feel a bit more comfortable year two in the league. And his rare speed kind of gives him a different profile than allowed the other running backs that we talk about you across the league at this point. I got him ranked right next to basal tune who we get to in just a second here. I think a lot of those wide receivers that you just mentioned, I would rather just go there and then just I don't think there's maybe that big of a difference between upside and floor and the next couple running backs in a row. And like fully understanding, Travion could be a top five top 10 running back in fantasy this year. And as should every top 24 running back in in ADP. Next is Quintran Judkins running back 24, the seventh pick of the fifth round. I'll say it Hayden after going back and watching Quintran Judkins in season. And for the show, I think he's the second best runner in this class. My first note is Judkins had the best rookie running back tape in 2025. So I'll even go up a notch from there. There's a couple of standout traits to me. One, he runs really hard and he's got like a great build six foot, 221 pounds. He just is a really tough tackle straight up. I think what makes him so good though is not the like physical traits that he has. He just plays so in control. I thought his vision was really good. He knows when to be patient. He knows when to be decisive. And then the other thing that he does is he keeps his feet underneath them. There's some other running backs who are more athletic than him in terms of the testing, but their feet get too far away from them. And it's hard to adjust where Quintran Judkins is so balanced. He's able to pivot and make the right cut so much faster because he's just so in control. So I thought he was really outstanding as a runner. You cannot make the statistical case to back us. You just have to trust us. Go put on some highlights. He's fast enough. He's not super fast. He's just fast enough. I think his play speed and his understanding of getting to the right hole on time to allow for his athletic traits to pick up. I thought he looked like one of the better running backs in the NFL. I'll take it a notch further. Let's go. I wish shocked at how fast he was. I think the defensive backs in the field were shocked at how fast he was. I mean, they were plenty of times where they took an angle more than a dozen during his rookie season that they then were reaching for a tackle or then having to adjust while he was then picking up extra yards. So even get a hand in him and then try to bring him down in the open field. I mean, one of his first runs for the season, he presses the line, bounce it to the outside completely turns the corner on Marlon Humphrey, who again is shocked by his juice. And I think that this goes into why the stats in the film can be so different for running backs compared to almost any other position because the underlying metrics, as you said, might not be kind for Quinshaw in a lot of cases. Then you just go and watch like 25 carries. All you need to do, just 25 and you're like, God damn. Yeah. This guy backs a punch. He wins on contact. He gets skinny through trash. He can work on the outside. He can go the outside and then he can also break tack with it. The second and third level that lead to just crazy, explosive place. But because of the environment that he was in from the quarterback to especially the offensive line that gave him just 0.7 yards on average before contact, which is third worst among all rookie running backs out there to being hit at or behind the line of scrimmage on 55% of his carries. And that's going to make those underlying numbers look poor or look average, right? At best, where to me, he is not average at anything when we're talking about carrying the football. He is excellent in a whole bunch of areas. He also faced the highest amount of eight plus defender boxes, according to next gen stats at 45% of them. So not only was the offensive line bad teams did not care about the past game at all. So he was just having to navigate all that trash that you're talking about. So I thought his vision was exceptional. Like you have to watch running backs and like pay attention to the linebackers, because that's like more or less who they're responsible for. And his feel when the linebacker creeps up into one hole and he's going to go to the back side of it, is just like so, so, so fast. I think as a receiver, they didn't do a whole lot with him there. It's not like there was anything that was standing out to me that he like can't do it. I do think that Dylan Samson is going to be one of the better past game running backs as a compliment. But Dylan Samson is much smaller than Quince Johnkins, which means he handled 31 of 35 running back carries inside the five yard or inside the red zone. They didn't get to the inside the five yard line 35 times. That's a problem here. But I think we're going to run to the same issues with Quince John that, you know, this offensive line, they got five new starters. How many of them are actually good? That's going to be a problem. The tight ends we talked about Harold Fanden. Who's blocking in the tight end group? That's going to be a problem here. They haven't fully unlocked him as a receiver. That's a problem. I just know that Quince Johnkins is the hell of a football player. So I can only rank him so well. The other thing that we're running into as well is I believe in week 16. He dislocated his right ankle and fractured his fibula on top of this. So it's a similar conversation that we had about Cam's Gataboo and the recent players who were very good fancy performers who then dropped down a tier with that stuff. But Quince John, I think if I'm just, again, reading reports and following Twitter, kind of has been participating a bit more than Cam's Gataboo so far this all season. And a lot of the Twitter docs are surprised with how much Quince Johnins had. So again, not all these injuries are exactly the same, but I do want to give the same hesitancy with that statement when Johnins had double-skat. Yeah, and Scataboo, that was a week eight. This was week 16. So Scataboo and Theory has a two-month head start. We still got what two months before we get started here, three months. So I think these guys will end up being fine. And I believe obviously we should expect that his efficiency and workload should be lighter than it was the previous year because of the injury. The sample size that we're going off of is like three or four running backs. And like, you know, I don't think we should like fully like just only believe in those. There could be a lot of noise here as we know we do this show. 15 years and we have a lot more unfortunately dislocated ankles to go off of and Judkins and Scatiboo are really young so maybe they can be outliers. I mean it really sucks how many times we've already talked about offensive line changes and how that's going to positively impact and that's just a guess that it's going to right we did that with Ash and Gentie obviously the chargers and getting rid of Bradley Boas when they're tackles back. We just did it with Trevion Henderson we did with came Scatiboo and now we're doing it here with Quinch on Judkins because what I don't think a single one of the starters last year is returning it's all five all starters five retired some of the said I've seen enough. Yeah and if I implore you all just to go and watch the Vikings game it was electric so good and the Vikings in previous years have been one of the stingiest teams to run on but you see Quinch on Judkins just dragging defenders again making safety angles look horrible his cuts have explosiveness he fights on final contact to get more yards I thought his hands were fine but I think I have a bit more hesitation than you maybe in his past protection like he's good on these cut blocks and submarines but then he kind of stops his feet as a stand up guy and whiffs again his final season in college he was attached to Trevion Henderson who was very good at that and then Ole Miss he had was in a rotation always during that time I remember our draft profile and he had so many edge runs at Ohio State that I actually compared maybe his running salary how to be used in the league to Derek Henry and like getting him on the edge in full speed and then he's off the races big body you can move Todd Monkin coming in two years of Derek Henry in his past so I'm expecting for as good as the Browns can be this year as far as they can push this for Quinch on Judkins to maximize whatever he can do and I am honestly in love with his ADP right now in the mode the fifth round if I haven't already selected two running backs already in dress yeah he's better than I thought I was looking at my comps my comps was cream hunt which turned out to be maybe a little bit oh cream to true to you incredible yeah thanks yeah all right let's know what basal toton who is just after turn of round five and six the first pick of the six round running back 26 he played on just 21% of the offensive snaps on the Jaguars as a rookie just 93 touches into 386 yards you could buzz through those 93 touches and about an hour Hayden so in that hour what did you see well unfortunately Josh we have to get this one right and that's going to be pretty difficult given I think toton's tape because I can see this one going either way why do we have to get right because it's freaking Liam Cohen man look look at the Tampa Bay box and then what Travis H and just did this last season when he was the RB 11 the good news is for basal toton he doesn't even have to be great to be a great fantasy asset he just has to be playable last year he was teetering on the play of playability and I do want to quickly mention the quint Allen played just as many snaps as basal toton those 20% snaps are not going away if it's third in Trevor Lawrence Mike it hit then the quint Allen's going to stay on the football field fortunately for toton though Chris Rodriguez is not on the football field he's got a foot injury that we're going to have to figure out as we get closer to training camp in terms of just the tape really fun runner just I like his style of running just because he's fun to watch he would probably drive me nuts as a coach because he's got this crazy speed I think he plays a little bit out of control and that ends up kind of costing some game speed he has good contact balance but then he would kind of fumble out in space just because I can just tell things were moving really fast for basal toton I think there's a lot of development that needs to happen with them one of his screen touchdowns he went to the left all five of his lineman went to the right he's still scored a touchdown because he's made a linebacker miss out in space but these type of things I think we aren't privy to of maybe why toton wasn't involved and maybe why they aimed for Chris Rodriguez who has a lot of familiarity so if he's going to be out there he's going to score shit ton of fantasy points we just have to figure out exactly what percent of snap he's going to be out there. Yeah at the same time they just willingly let Travis H and go and that gives at least in my mind some love of confidence that they have in basal toton and then kind of a small ish contract that they gave Chris Rodriguez and we'll talk about Rodriguez here in a moment one run kind of encapsulated basal toton's rookie season for me it was against the airs and the cardinals clays Campbell got instant disruption through the right guard to the ground there was an awesome jump cut to avoid him and have a two yard loss then gets to the fill defensive back on the edge he presses with that outside foot and perfectly cuts inside with really nice speed to avoid contact the next step he just trips over himself his own feet and so that only equals a two yard gain when it could have been a seven yard gain at the very least but if you broke another tackle or ran away from a defensive back he could have gone and housed it so like there were multiple I thought opportunities where we kind of just lost control of his body a little bit got over his skis lost balance slept tripped all of it that again stop 12 yard runs from being like 35 yard touchdowns or 50 yard touchdowns like we saw from Trevor on Henderson at the same time I thought he had some nice power and straight forward willingness during the and near the goal line he actually was subbed in for those situations as well had the same mistackle force rate as came Stadabo who we talked about breaking all these runs to but one cut and get up field and so if Liam Cohen's offense you know as we saw last year has really nice blocking and he has the game slow down for him a little bit we know he has a speed to reach every single hole and get to every single scene at each level of the field that that can mask maybe some of these possible vision questions but if some of those questions were just because you know he was a zero star recruit who went from one school then move up to Virginia Tech and now he's you know just a better player on top of it then we might have like the breakout player yes everything hits this year. Definitely so and like if Chris Rodriguez foot lingers then like it's just going to be him because look when Alan just cannot move the same way that basal student does it when I was talking about Quintet Juddkins playing in control and his feet being underneath them and playing more athletic than what his numbers would suggest the inverse is true for two like those two guys watching their tape almost back to back like the next couple hours is very evident like one's in control one is not I liked when Jacksonville started just giving him a bunch of pitches there was one game where he gave the six pitches that included like at the goal line I didn't maybe that kind of like to slow things down for him a little bit game a little bit more space to operate he should be watching as much Devon H and tape as possible because that's like what he should look like he did not look like that as a rookie that's how it should look like and Liam Cohen could really just throw two and some screens this year because Chris Rodriguez is not going to do that the Quint Alan's in there for protection reason so these are crazy reception seasons like there's a chance to do that I don't trust him past past protecting at all and I don't like that he was running the wrong way on some routes but like in theory that that upside does exist in fantasy it's interesting you know we just talked about Mike McDaniel and how all of his running back kind of have this you know string through them a through line of at least having speed but you have the most of the H and to the key Mitchell to the Jalen rights like they have something in common Liam Cohen's running backs are going to fall different in a way like you go from again Chris Rodriguez with Kentucky to Bucky Irving and not even great athletes Rashad white yeah and then you have Travis H and this past season and then now you have Baytial Tutan and like the through line between all those guys is wildly different and while like maybe the size of Tutan and Bucky Irving is somewhat similar you could not find like any different running cells than those like they are yeah drastically opposed to each other quickly and Chris Rodriguez because again this is important there's history there there's commonality from Liam Cohen and during his time in this was the only move that they made after you know Travis H and went to the New Orleans states from Rhino Haller hand quote according to a team source Chris Rodriguez had a procedure on his left foot following an injury earlier in the offseason program was expected to be ready for the start of training camp in late July now there's been a lot of speculation hey there's a Jones fracture is this turf toe is at Liz Frank those three things never want to hear foot injuries with running backs and then Liam Cohen even got the mic today and said you know I'm not worried mentally about any of the time that Chris Rodriguez misses because he's obviously knows exactly what we do from a playbook standpoint but for a guy who is also you know a lesser athlete than many of the other players out there playing running back this only boosts Baytial Tutans I think potential and possibility of reaching the ceiling outcome for us and we're able to get that what in the six round at this point that's incredible yep I ranked in one spot ahead of Travegan Henderson I think the profiles are almost identical for maybe slightly different reasons but the the upsides evident the downside risk we saw play out this last season I just feel you know better about Ramandre Steven's then then injured Chris Rodriguez at this point so we'll see if just to ask you about that real quick does that mean you have Tutan way above ADP or does that mean you have Hendo way below 80 more Hendo down below like like you said the round four five turn those wide receivers are pretty pretty fun to me so I think right after you get out of those guys then I think I start sliding in shot in there, uh, Tuton and uh, I feel so much better about Quintura Judkins, his tape, and I feel obviously way worse about his situation. So ranking those three guys in a row, I think I ended up in that area. Like they just get there in totally different ways. Okay, one round later, Ardrey Harvey goes at the end of the seventh round as the running back 31. So five spots later at the position. 896 yards from Scrimmage as a rookie with 12 touchdowns on 193 touches. So what do you see from Ardrey Harvey after coming through his rookie tape? I just a really good setup for Ardrey Harvey to score fantasy points. The offensive line was really good. John Peyton does a really good job of scheming things up. They all stayed healthy until bone X got injured really late. And then once JK Dobbins went down, Ardrey Harvey went on a really nice run in terms of fantasy. He was the RB 17 on RB 10 usage without JK Dobbins. But I think the tape was pretty hit and miss. I think there was a lot more misses than hits. Now if he took his like three best runs of the season where he was running up the middle, bouncing off guys and then winning with speed, you'd be completely convinced that this guy's going to go crazy and fantasy. I thought there was a lot of kind of wasted plays as well. The underlying metrics given how good the Broncos offensive line was was really bad. 42nd, 42nd, EPA per carry, negative eight rush yards over expected. That's out of 46 qualifying running backs who's 32nd in that last stat there. And then next gen stats had him with the second highest time spent behind the line of scrimmage. I think that was maybe the more frustrating part. I thought there was some reps where he was just a little bit indecisive trying to cut things outside. He has the athleticism to make it work sometimes. Not enough athleticism to do it all the time, especially when you have one of the best offensive lines out there. So I thought his tape. There are some things that there's an explosiveness to his game that you certainly felt. I thought the rest of it is probably the reason why they gave $10 million guaranteed back to JK Dobbins despite another season ending injury. So with a lot of the running backs we've already talked about. Hampton and the chargers, Skatapoo and the Giants. We just talked about it with Bayesville Tutan and Jaguars. We are looking for the runner that is going to claim the line share of work and potentially has not just top 12 running back outcome, but maybe top five running back outcomes this season. I'll go as far to say that's impossible with the Broncos backfield. Like this is just how Sean Peyton utilizes running backs is that he gives a whole bunch of players a whole bunch of touches. Not a single running back under Sean Peyton has ever hit 250 carries. And that's like 13 years in the league as a play collar and a head offense. Yeah, not Reggie Bush, Duce McCallister, Alvin Camera, Marking girl, Javante Williams, even two years ago. I mean, Javante Williams and RJ Harvey's actual statistical profiles and their two seasons with the Broncos is nearly identical with that stuff. So this is what Sean Peyton wants. Like he wants multiple guys to touch the ball. Now obviously RJ Harvey is going the earliest of these Broncos guys. And how I can pitch that is actually 25 different running backs have hit 50 targets with Sean Peyton and RJ Harvey was just the 25th. And some of those plays were some of his best across the entire season. And especially when we talk about the red zone, I mean, he had the same number of red zone targets last year as Zay flowers and had three more touchdowns inside the red zone than Zay flowers. It just in receptions and receiving yards. And that's not even talking about the goal line stuff. Me at five touchdowns within the five yard line, all of those were in in close games. There were about six or seven times when they got in the red zone where they called like this bootleg right with him slipping out. Or he was inserting after this weird alignment that was even outside the tackle through the line of scrimmage and then catching the ball. So I think that it's impossible to make good on a second round draft capital that the Denver Broncos spent on RJ Harvey to say, well, he's just insert blank lead running back on an NFL team. Instead, I think that Sean Peyton and I'll be at Davis Web as quote unquote calling plays now wants to utilize these three running backs in different ways. And namely to when Jackie Dobbins and RJ Harvey and how are you are he's kind of like found his role in this now. What does that mean for fancy purposes does that mean he's a good picker of bad pick. I'm still deciding that at this point, but that's kind of where I am at with his standing in this offense at this moment. I think he's a committee back. I think he's a past. Pass game back. That's how Sean Peyton utilizes and there's a history like you. He mentioned with the Sean Peyton that they didn't to roles and it's hard to shake out of those when JK Dobbins was healthy. RJ Harvey was the RB 36 on RB 54 usage as in half PPR. He's being drafted as the RB 31. So like the market is expecting RJ Harvey to play a lot more than he did with JK Dobbins. And he's having brought up Jonah Coleman, who I think is at least somewhat interesting because Jonah Coleman was a bell cow. He's not very splashy. But Jonah Coleman, I do think if JK Dobbins misses time, Jonah Coleman would eat into some of the touches that RJ Harvey was getting without JK Dobbins this last year. I think that the upside case in terms of like ranking in terms of handcuffs, I do think takes a hit because Jonah Coleman is involved. I think in full PPR and a deep league and stuff, I think that there's like some interesting outcomes for RJ Harvey. I don't think I was sold on his tape and it wasn't even just JK Dobbins returning and the Jonah Coleman selection. They were like linked to Jadarian price in the draft. They were linked to Travis H in Kenneth Walker every big running back. Sean Payne made sure to get on K Adams podcast and say, hey, we're looking to find this next guy. They ultimately settled on $10 million guaranteed JK Dobbins, which is more money than I was expecting. Yeah, but it's just a one year contract, you know, yeah, but 10 million is like that's that's pretty good. And you know, so I think like week one comes around, guess who's going to be leaving this team in touches. It'll be JK Dobbins and right now he's getting priced way down. Now that's not how we should be ranking these guys in fantasy long term by the my rankings. Like the JK Dobbins stuff is every year is a career year until not because he has average like seven and a half games played per season in his NFL career. Definitely so so I haven't pretty close him my rankings. I think early on season will definitely be JK Dobbins. JK Dobbins is somehow only 27 years old. So if you can figure this thing out and like I mean, I don't know what is late. Trust me. If we got a 17 games of JK Dobbins, it would be freaking sweet. And I hate trying to predict injuries. But like at some point, you know, we can all say he's on pace for this. And then it's just impossible for like if JK Dobbins fulfilled his on pace stats every single year, he'd be a hall of pro at this. You know, you know, so it hasn't happened. Yeah. But what we do know is that like again, are you Harvey 47 passes that's running back eight in the NFL last year. 350 plus yards that's running back eight in the NFL and five receiving touchdowns that's running back three in the NFL last season. I also like we can talk about how much JK Dobbins more work he had than Argy Harvey to start the season. I don't think that we're going to get the same difference, the same split in that to open the season after you know, you do have Argy Harvey, you know, seeing the vast majority of the running back work. I don't think he's going to have anywhere from five to seven touches in the first eight games of last season of this season again, if that makes sense. Yeah, I have both of them in my RB 30s, neither are inside my top 32 fantasy running backs. And I think there'll be a committee. Like you said, and like that's not even factoring in or that's factoring in Jonah Coleman, like going to get he's not getting zero touches. He's going to get five and he can get some goal line work to because he's Jonah Coleman's a big boy too. I mean, he's like five eight, but 220. So he's an interesting guy like very different than Argy Harvey in my opinion. I'm not running off Argy Harvey either just improving. Yeah, once once he gets into the league in his second season. So that's a possibility. They are quite close just in terms of running back rankings overall. It's running back 31 and running back 35. Let's win the two. Okay, let's talk common on guy who really became a channel favorite during last preseason, just the more you dug into the depth chart. The more we were advocating him as what a round 15 plus pick last year. And then just like Deandre Swift from about week seven on. You saw real strides both with him and this running game and how they leaned into the strength. So right now he's being selected as running back 33 the seventh pick of the eighth round. Is this one of the more straightforward evaluations that you saw it really is. I like the ADP. I have a rank ahead of Argy Harvey in fantasy. I think that he's definitely better than Argy Harvey in terms of the rookie tape. I think he plays with a ton of energy. He plays with a ton of contacts balance and then he's not crazy athletic, but he's definitely athletic enough. He reminds me stylistically of Isaiah Pacheco, but like Isaiah Pacheco actually moving forward like you know an efficient matter. It's just like he plays with all that energy that you love and I think that he has a little bit different of a style than Deandre Swift. Then Johnson understood that they had a little bit different type of carries they would get to the ultimately by the end of the season were rotating drives one to one where Swift would get the first drive out of each half and then the none guy would get the next. That was enough to kind of be where this ADP is and like the low RB 30s and then there were some games where. for Menungai went absolutely crazy because their right guard, right tackle combination was as good as it gets, Ben Johnson's outstanding. And I think Kyle Menungai is a rock solid player. So I thought, if Deandre Swift didn't improve last year on tape, I think we'd be like, all right, Menungai might just take this whole thing over. I'm not expecting that to be the case, but if it did, there's no RB3 right now, and Menungai would be vaulted really high up in our weekly ranking. So I think right now he's kind of priced at his like median outcome. And I think it's way more likely that he like breaks out than he completely goes away. - It is so fitting that he is right next to Blake Corm when it comes to running back selected because at times it was two for one for both in terms of two drives to Deandre Swift and Kyron Williams and then one drive to Menungai and Blake Corm. Then there were other contests where it was literally one for one as well. And you saw some really nice moments from both. Menungai 187 touches, 947 yards and five scores. He's just a bowling ball. He's a bumper car. It goes into everything that you said. Now you would think maybe with that style he would pull away and like totally break tackles more often. He was down at right around league average at 0.15 in terms of his missed tackles forced rate. - Yeah. - But it kind of goes to he's falling forward on final contact to pick up those two or three yards and not fully breaking it and like playing on the edges of these defenders. And they're like grabbing his jersey or grabbing at his ankles. And then he reels off another seven or eight. But once again, what a seventh round pick he was and what extreme confidence Ben Johnson must have in him heading into year two where someone with the lions, how they invested so much of the running back position is just running it back with Deandre Swift and Kyron Menungai. And Menungai is just so much of a superior player to Rocheon Johnson who was selected in the fourth round just a few years earlier. - Yeah, Menungai just doesn't have the athletic traits to like really overwhelm. So he's about as good as he possibly can be. And I think that's a really fun player because the Bears offense should be inside the top 10. There's, I'd call it two quick plays on Menungai. One happened in the second game of the season. The lions were smoking the Bears. They were up 31. There was 40 seconds left. They give the ball to Kyle Menungai with obviously nothing to play for. And just like truck sticks to Lions defenders like in the last minute. And another play where Kyle Menungai was supposed to be like chip blocking next to Colston Loveland. Colston Loveland completely bodied one-on-one pass protection. But Nungai slips out just using his head, catches a pass, breaks some tackles for a very, very clutch first down in that game as well. So there's just like really fun moments with Kyle Menungai. I can tell that Ben Johnson really trusts him. So him and Blake Korm, like these are the type of guys that I gravitate towards. Like I would much rather take a chance that I have like a by-week feeling with a chance to really matter. Rather than like some of these guys like, you know, maybe Jalen Warren, R.J. Harvey, these guys where I just don't see quite the same level ceiling like I do with Menungai or Coral. - Okay, is the potential outcome and high in outcome for Kyle Menungai that he is the new version of Jamal Williams for this team? - Yeah. - Now, if you just look at the Chicago Bears, last year we know that they were ninth in terms of scoring an offense, but I wonder just based on body type and how common on Guy Max is everything that he does. And now he's, you know, not a seventh round rookie. He's now a second year player in this offense. If he can kind of at least flip flop with the Andre Swift in terms of attempts inside of the 10 yard line. So last season Swift had 24 of those carries, Menungai had 19. So it was somewhat close, but like what at this year? Menungai is the one that gets 25 and Deandra Swift's the one that goes down to about 19 or 18. There might be two like type casting them a bit of their archetypes, but if, again, I think there's such a big difference of, hey, we spent a fine around pick on this guy. We'll see how he turns into camp and oh, he's earning a bit more as the season goes along versus oh, now we are implementing him and planning on him being a solidified part of this offense from week one. - Yeah, I would expect it's just gonna be the drive by drive rotation. I don't see any reason to lose sight of that. Deandra Swift, this is his last year on the Bears, but he's also making $9 billion coming off a pretty good season there. So I wouldn't expect too much to change like in terms of like baseline outcomes for common on. By the way, you mentioned Jamal Williams. Somebody came up to me at Mott Suze over in Huntington Beach where my favorite like tip on tables said he recognized me from the show. He said, thank you for telling me to draft Jamal Williams a couple of years ago. I won a championship so shout out to you. - Love that. I've had that with Tyrone Tracy and Rico. - Pretty. - So yeah, people really pay attention to our hits, which I appreciate. We have one more name at least, actually two. Let's talk about Bill, all right? Things got a bit out of hand last preseason with the seventh round rookie of the Washington commanders. And now he's going back to back with his running mate in Washington. Rashad White is running back 39th at the end of the 10th round and Bill one pick later is running back 40, the first pick of the 11th round. So he had 184 touches last year for 873 yards and eight touchdowns. So is this another backfield that we just have to get right? - I would say less so because I'm not convinced anyone in this backfield is all that great. And then you got the Jaden Daniels of it. You got a new offense here. I'll talk about the positives with Bill here. I thought his vision and patience for how complicated the Cliff Kingsbury offense was was pretty outrageous. There's like a lot of times where tight ends are flashing across and like you got to be really patient as a running back. And I thought he was able to do that. I thought his straight line speed was pretty good. Nothing too crazy. It's definitely faster than Rashad White and definitely, definitely faster than K-Tron Allen. So I would label him as the most explosive back on the in the backfield. There's absolutely no proof of concept in the receiving game and we have all the proof of concept that you possibly need from Rashad White. So I'm kind of training towards this going to be a committee backfield. Who's going to be the goal line back? I think that is a very fair question that's pretty impossible to answer right now. I'm going to really base training camp reports out of anything because Rashad White's a little bit bigger than Jekori Kroski Marit. But he's not like a power back. And then K-Tron Allen, I think, is really physical but we're talking about a six round rookie here. So one of these things where like Jekori Kroski Marit's better than where he was drafted. He's not like the next Devon A-chan or anything like that. And I'm expecting this to be a committee backfield. So this is like typically one of the profiles. I'm not going to draft a whole lot. But I think this is like about where he should be going in Bestball. Interesting. I really like this price tag for Bill. And I really like this price tag for Rashad White. I'm just optimistic. And I really like the price tag for Terry McClorn. Maybe I'm just anticipating a big step up here with the Washington Commanders. But I think they have all the pieces. When we talk about the quarterback and the White receiver and what I think the play car is going to bring the table and accentuate this offensive line a little bit that maybe we've lost sight of the upside case, I think, for the commander's offense. And again, I think we're going to discount with a lot of these pieces. And I think it's really defined between these two. Rashad White is one of the best pass protecting third, fourth down players in the league. And so the question is, does he come in here and does Bill falter? And so in that case, does Rashad White who struggles in pure running situation, who struggles on first and second down, just kind of gets you by in those cases, do they just turn to that? Watching all the bill stuff, I think it's good. As you said, much better than a seventh round rookie, he kind of plays super wide. Like his strides are incredibly long. His jump cuts are incredibly long. And it's fascinating. When you look at the running back stances before the ball is snapped, you see guys like Jameer Gibbs who it's very narrow, a bunch of other running backs is narrow. Bill is like the widest in the league. And it's also his same running style. So that can kind of make it so he doesn't have these sudden steps to allude defenders as much. But then everything that's in phase, and as you said, he's kind of riding this wave, it is like super fluid. He's sort of cutting between the lines with that stuff. And then his strides really do chew up a bunch of ground. So like the stretch style can be a good thing, but it can also be a negative because when a DB or a safety or a linebacker squares them up, and he's almost certainly going down. So yeah, I like both these pricets. I'm willing to draft both of these backs because we know Bill's not cracking into what we're shot white's doing. I mean, he fumbled four times last year, and it only caught nine passes all of last season. Yeah, I said the same way. I don't think he's very agile for somebody that's not like the biggest back out there. And I think that's just going to cap his ceiling. But he does serve like you're talking about in that really wide stance. I tweeted out that Bill should be drafted higher this year than his ADP last year. That was both. He's a little bit priced too low right now. And last year, some of you guys got pretty aggressive out there. He did close the season strong as last four games. He was the RB 16 on RB 28 usage. That's a four game sample size. I don't get too carried away there. But he had a couple of explosives there. I think he's going to like, they're going to be able to hold the line. And Rashad White is on a one year, $2 million contract. Nothing. Bill is a seventh rounder. And they're running their third running back as a six rounder. So this is as little investment as you will ever, ever, ever, ever see in a position. I'm sure they were trying to get Jeremiah Love or whatever the case may be. or they're just trying to, you know, NBA this and do all analytics. It's a, it's a true, like, let the best man win. And I don't think that Bill Kroski merit is like behind Rashad. Why I think that's a true toss up. I also need to have. K Tron Allen show me a little something in preseason before even like taken seriously and turn this into a three headed backfield versus a two. Like you need to bill it or monangay it a little bit for me to take it seriously. If that's okay with you. Yes, but K Tron Allen is like Mr. Dirty work. And if you want to burn an 18th round pick on K Tron Allen, like by all means, I think you can do it. Just on bill, as you said, he was drafted and closed drafts last year as the running back 34 and now he's being drafted as a running back 40 when we have more information on him. Yeah. Yeah, he's a fine player. Let's close with Woody marks. 12th pick of the 12th round running back 45. This team did make a huge move in terms of adding quote unquote competition for him. And maybe it's no longer a competition because Dave Montgomery was traded. And now again, as being selected as running back 21 and compare that to the running back 45 here for Woody Mark. So does this allow what he just to go back to role player status? I think he should be a role player. I think he's a past guy. This that's not anything outrageous here. If you guys studied his USC tape and Mississippi State tape, he's like air raid passed down back. He's just not that great of an athlete. He's one of these guys that plays kind of in the same speed, no matter where he is in the rep. And I don't really mean that as a compliment. I think there's sometimes where I saw a crease available to him and you just like did not have enough to kind of burst through. And I think that's going to lower his ceiling, especially when you're talking about one of the five worst offensive lines annually. And I mean, maybe it's a chance the Texans get a little bit more bully ball this year, just looking at some of their investments that they're what they're trying to do. I'm not sold. That's going to absolutely click this year, not completely sold on the offensive coordinator either right now. So I think Woody marks versus David Montgomery like this version of David Montgomery. It's not that dissimilar in terms of of player. I think that David Montgomery just has a lot more pop on his pads than Woody Marks. But I don't think that David Montgomery is so much better than Woody Marks at this point of his career. That's not saying that Woody Marks is like a great player by any stretch, but I think that he could get drafted. You're like in a 12 person league and just looking for handcuffs. I think that Woody Marks passes that at least that threshold. Question. Do you think Houston Texans believe that Dave Montgomery is way better than Woody Marks? It does sound like it. We'll see. I mean, Dave Montgomery, that's a lot of touches and the target. Third team, you know, maybe I've always loved David Montgomery. I think like this is about the time of career where you started to like second guess things a little bit. I think they were really going to try to make David Montgomery work. So I think I have their ADPs maybe a little bit more squished together than what it is on underdog where they're like completely separated. And that's not even me liking Woody Marks' tape very much. I'm going to give you some Woody Mark stats that actually turn into Dave Montgomery stats. Okay. We know that last year this team, the Texans were one of the worst in terms of Red Zone touch on success rate. I think like bottom two or three in the league. A big part of that is Woody Marks and just the overall team rushing standpoint. Again, another team that has gone through massive offensive line overhalls and changes. Hopefully that helps for the second straight off season. But then it's also Woody Marks 32 carries inside of the 20 yard line equal to touchdowns for him. Yeah, it's not good. We're the same number that B. John Robinson had in the Red Zone one less than Dave Montgomery had in the Red Zone two less than Chase Brown three left four less than say one Barclay. So like Woody Marks had a lot of opportunities in the area. Now a lot of it might not be as fault because again, they just could not block up front. But Dave Montgomery, we're going to talk about them all summer. If you just zoom out, this is the dead zone profile of just imparting a hell of a lot of opportunity and Red Zone work on a player who is declining, right? So if it hits, obviously it's all baked in. It works out. You score touchdowns. But we've seen in many other cases that just doesn't work out. But I just don't know of how much faith I have in Woody, but at least he's shown that he has held down that role in the past, albeit with hit or miss success. Woody Marks is really good in past protection. So if there's like one thing, it's just that he's he's a reliable player. He's seen everything in terms of places of such a space off the college offenses that he was in. And that's how he was drafted that if you listen to the comments from the team right after they drafted him, that's what they were hoping for. They got maybe a little bit more on early downs because Nick Chubb wasn't cutting it. I think, yeah, ultimately, I think it's just kind of a systemic, you know, Texan's offensive line issue here that's going to hold all of them back. So I appreciate Woody Marks for what he is. Like, he's kind of like almost like a coach is pet. He's be minus Rashad White. Is this getting you fired up? No, okay. I've got one more question for you. We're, you know, only an hour and 16 minutes into this episode. Which of these running backs when you reviewed all of them surprised you the most for good or bad? Um, I remember watching Quintet, Jenkins and I mean, like, this guy's really impressive. When you kind of just like watch all these guys one after another, what he's doing in just terms of the vision stuff, it was just like really standing out. Like there was elements of like other physical traits or effort or receiving stuff that stood out. He was kind of like the only one that was like, man, he just like reads everything out really well. And that's a very tough trait to have as a rookie. Um, but I think the big takeaway second to that is. How many of these guys were playing through injuries or had a devastating injury and that's just going to make it's already a tough thing to go through all these played behind a devastating offensive line. Yes. And like, it's already hard enough trying to like judge these guys off of one year when we have like these huge factors that are like not necessarily in our control after tape studies, like makes this thing even harder to kind of work through. You know, we just claim that, you know, Ash and Ginty's offensive line and Martin Hampton's offensive line and Cam Skataboo's and Trevor Henderson's and Quint Shum that they're all just going to improve. And sometimes that is not how it works, but that's not how it's going to work. So hopefully it does. That would be really great. I totally agree with what you said about Quint Shum. Just one final thought on Amari and Hampton. There's going to be a lot of jokes. There's all season of who's going to be a great handcuff for keeping Mitchell this season. That is an outcome here that the flaws and everything that we said and spotted in Amari and Hampton's game, even dating back to his time at UNC, could keep him from being a work course in the league. At the same time, I think it's more likely that the running system that he isn't just masks his flaws and accentuates his strengths. And so this is one of the players where I have obvious flaws in my head that it can lead to negative outcomes, but I almost want to minimize those and focus in on the positives just because of the environment that he's in. Yep. As by coaching matters, offensive line matters. Those two things in particular, whoever to play callers, the offensive line, I think those are like some of the last things that give you a true edge in fantasy football. I think it's more important than ever now that the running backs are priced where they should be, which is really high up. Yep. I also really enjoyed baseball students, 93 touches at times. They were fun. They were fun. I'm sure Liam Cohen was having less fun than we were. I kept rooting for him. We might get to do a lot of that this season. All right. That does it. We have wider receivers tomorrow. This is a lot of preparation that goes in these episodes. So hopefully you watch it. Hopefully you share it with a friend and hopefully you tune into these shows that we put out. All summer long, they are evergreen and they're going to help you win your fantasy league of the seasons to shout out to weaves and Moe Show. Shout out to all of you for watching and hitting that subscribe button up the below. Talk to you guys soon. See ya.