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Tanya Tucker: Dolly Parton’s Death, Dating Merle Haggard, & Partying At Studio 54

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Tanya Tucker: Dolly Parton’s Death, Dating Merle Haggard, & Partying At Studio 54

Tonya Tucker shares her journey from a young age in Arizona to becoming a country music legend, crediting her father’s unwavering faith and active involvement as the catalyst for her success. At just nine years old, she began singing with her father, who recognized her voice and talent and moved the family to pursue her dreams. A pivotal moment came when she recorded "Delta Don" after impressing Billy Cheryl, a record producer who saw potential in her raw demo. Tonya reflects on the authenticity and spirit of country music in the past, contrasting it with today’s highly curated environment. She praises icons like Dolly Parton and Merle Haggard for their boldness and integrity, noting that few people have ever said negative things about them. She also shares personal anecdotes from her career, including opening for major artists like Leonard Skinner and a memorable performance at the 1980 Winter Olympics, where she used a speed skater’s jersey to create a unique moment that thrilled the audience. Beyond music, Tonya speaks passionately about social issues, including the harmful impact of large transmission lines on rural Texas landowners, and her advocacy for preserving the historic Muni golf course. She emphasizes the fleeting nature of past eras—like Studio 54 or the pre-AIDS party culture—where spontaneity, authenticity, and freedom reigned. Tonya values connection, memory, and personal growth, believing that while success is real, the human experience—especially the relationships forged through music and shared experiences—is what truly endures. Her story is one of resilience, mentorship, and a deep-rooted belief in the power of staying true to oneself.

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Well, this episode Country Music Legend, Tonya Tucker joins me, also Rudy's got the news and we'll do that right after this. Thanks for tuning into the Adam Corolla show. You can watch the full show on YouTube, just search Adam Corolla show, and hit subscribe so you never miss an episode. You can also get the podcast wherever you like to listen, and for extra content, add free episodes, and more. You can head over to our sub-stack and sign up today. And then thanks for telling the friend we love that about you. Tonya Tucker is joining me, I think, from Nashville. Are you in Nashville? No. Where are you? We're in Austin right now. Austin, Austin, Austin. We're doing a show for Save the Muni with Ben Crenshaw, the great golfer, and so excited about it, and they're trying to save this golf course from development and I'm glad to be a part of it. Austin, that's right. That's what we're doing, but with a sleep with the wheel and a jacking room, there's a bunch of us on the show tonight. I did not know. I mean, you know, it's kind of weird because you've been around my entire life, except for we're almost the same age. So I don't know how that work. And then someone explained. He explained to me, you at 13, you did Delta Don at a hit with Delta Don, which was a, well, it was written. Delta Don, what's the flower you have on the gravel? You have all. The baby goes by and gone by. Did I hear you say he was meeting you here today to take you to the sky? Well, I remember now I love the way you say it. Delta Don. Delta Don. I remember obviously Helen ready had a big hit with it. You had a hit with it. I don't know who else had a hit with it. No, that was it. But how was it? So young. How did you figure that one out? How did that even begin? Was it parents? Was it you? Well, yeah, my dad, he was the sole warrior there. He recognized my, my voice, my talent, I guess you could say when I was about nine. And I lived in Wilcox, Arizona. So he asked me what I wanted to do. And I said, yeah, I want to be, I want to be a big country star. And so he moved me and my mother that day and started working for me and and I never quit. And it's still working for me this day. I hear him now more than ever. But he wouldn't take no for an answer. And he's the reason he just made it happen. Wait, he moved you that day. Yeah. What was your dad up to? You were nine. Well, my dad could do everything. He, he was there because he was building the, the chair lifts it, tell you ride. And I was about three years old then and then he moved just to Arizona because he could get water well. He was a water well driller and then he started drilling for copper. And I remember many times going out with him, me and my mother and going out with him and he'd wake me up and say, look, I think we struck copper. And it was just a lot of wonderful time. But he had a sick sense. He was a different kind of guy and from Oklahoma married my mother at 15. What? And yeah, they were married for, I guess, when my dad passed in '06 for about 67 years. So come from a long line of love. And my dad had a, he had some kind of magic. And when we moved us to Henderson, Nevada, right out South Las Vegas, when I was 11. Then we met some, he met some people and he met a lady there that managed Johnny Rivers. And so she said, I know who you need to talk to. You need to talk to Billy Cheryl and he's a gambler. So he'll be in town and when he is, I'll call you. And that's what, that's what she did. And so when he heard me, he heard the demo tapes, which were awful, but he heard them and said he wanted to meet me. So my mother and my dad and I went down to the river, you remember the river area Las Vegas. And at the coffee shop and met Billy and he said, so let's cut a hit record. And it wasn't, that was in November of 71. And then 72 March, I flew to with my dad to Nashville. And Billy and I started listening to the songs to record. And they brought me in the record that was a 45 and the publisher had control of it. And it wasn't out, but it was happiest girl in the whole USA. And I listened to it and he said, what do you think about that kid? And I said, well, I think it's a great song, but it's not my song. And so after they all scratched their heads and thinking he's listening to a 13 year old kid, he's gone crazy. So they left and he played me dealt with on Alex Harvey, the writer, had a guitar vocal. And when he, when the song ended, I said, now that's my song. So we went in and recorded it the next day and they rushed released it. And the rest is history. Radio really, really came. They're the reason that that song, you know, back in those days, you just had to need to have one DJ that would put the song on first time. So your dad had incredible belief in you. Oh, yeah. And I guess he must have understood you had ability. And I guess singing is different than, let's say, comedy. You know, if you had a funny son or daughter and there were 12 or 13, you might go, all right, stay in school. Don't quit your day job. Yeah, right. But a voice you could hear. You could hear if someone had, you know, when you heard Michael Jackson, when he was nine, you went, I can hear that voice. But if it was something else, like, I don't know, comedy or writing or painting. Anything else really. I don't know you would know, right? Well, I don't know that a lot of people would know anyway, because he and Billy too, Billy had the ability to listen through those bad demos that I made to some sort of talent they can hear. And my dad always did hear it. He always always was a bigger fan of mine than I was. He always thought I was better than I did, but it was just some way to make him happy. And when he was happy, I was, I was happy. But also, you know, he's the best manager I ever had. There'd be no better. Your dad is a builder. I don't know, fabricator, driller, you know, working on ski lifts. John guy. Or you can do anything. Yeah, but it seems, it seems like not the guy who's the show biz guy feels different than that guy. No, totally. I mean, my dad never did want any, any spotlight on him. He wanted all on me and he was, but he was, you know, it's tough. He was hard. He was tough on people. I mean, if he saw or thought someone wasn't going to do a good job for me or was going to, you know, not do me right. He wouldn't mind telling him and he didn't, he didn't mind that he didn't have a whole lot of friends. He said, I got enough friends. So. Who do you know? Who do you know? Exactly what he thought. Out with early. Like what? Who were some of the bands. Performing. Well, I mean, you told with. You know, back in the day, I would have to use right tonight. I'm using a sleep at the wheel. They're back in me tonight. And I haven't done that since probably 14 or 15 using my own band. But back in those days, I had to use other people's bands like Tom T Hall was always gracious with with his band. I toured with Bobby bear and I, I mean, Johnny Bush. And then Johnny Rodriguez and I had a Texas tour. He was like 18. I was 14 and we more, we played every G joint in that state. And I had Delta Don and he had passed me by. So we use one band and done it. I haven't done that since then. But it's kind of hard for a 14 year old to tell a musician. Who do you remember? It's not right. No, who did you, did you open for people and who opened for you? Well, I don't, I think I was the more the opener. But I remember one time when I was just about to turn 16. Barry Faye promoted a concert in Little Rock, Arkansas. And Whalen opened for me. Well, there's, yeah, it was great. It was great. And then I also set me up. I've had a lot of weekend managers. Because after the weekend, they figured. Thank you. figure out that there's no way to manage me. You know, my dad got me back all the time, but had a couple of times had to buy me back by my contract back. But there was one time I was 16 and I got open for Leonard Skinner in Louisville, Kentucky. And that was, I thought, oh, I don't know if they're going to like me. But Ronnie Van Zant was so wonderful to me and he walked me to the stage and introduced me to his audience. And they, they were so wonderful. They were great. I love Leonard Skinner. They're always good to me. So I've had some, some really good experiences with that. I had a few, maybe they weren't so good, but I don't mind opening the show, you know. I like to give them something to follow, you know. I remember Elvis Presley, Hank Snow, I think, opened or closed behind him one time. And he never did it again. Yeah. First and last time, well, I mean, sometimes the people opening for you, you don't know who they are yet, because sometimes Elvis's and Elvis, yeah, you know, he wasn't. He wasn't. Right. So you don't know. I know it was big. You know, he was big. Right. He's really big. So you would know, if you're a comedian and you wouldn't know if you're a singer songwriter, I mean, you wouldn't know who this person was before they were, who they were. But then you get Leonard Skinnered opens for you, although they're not Leonard Skinnered and no one knows who they are. But yet they're super good and now you have to go after them and that's a weird position to be in. Well, it's great. The opening act you have to kind of straddle the fans because you can't be too good. And then you can't be not good enough, so you've got to let fine line there. Well, when you're opening for someone, is that a thing where you don't let it all hang out? So to speak, like where you kind of go, well, you don't want to be too good. You just said you don't want to be too good. Well, you know, I didn't know that philosophy too much later. I always like to give it my all if I can. Like Deborah McClinton said of me, he said, she don't need no chicken on a bone. That's a good. I try to eat it all. That's a nice compliment. And I know you and Dolly Parton were pretty close and she just passed recently. Do you have any thoughts about Dolly? Well, you know, I have many, many, many, but she's a real outlaw as far as I'm concerned. She did what she wanted musically and was such a talent. But I found that, you know, when I was coming up, I kind of kind of copied the men more than the women like Elvis was a big, he was a big inspiration to me. And I copied a lot of his stuff, every all the moves he made. And so, and Merle Haggard was a real big influence for me. George Jones, all those guys, Sinatra, you know, and I was a kid. But as, as I found out, the day I found out that Dolly died that he passed, I said, you know, I think I want to be more like her because of all the, not just because she was a great talent, but she was a great human being. And I've never heard one bad, I've never heard anybody say anything bad about her in my whole entire life. And or Willie, either one, those two, now I've got to file all the things they say about me, but I keep them all in a file, probably a few I haven't heard yet. But I think it's a wonderful legacy that she left. And I think her music will be forever, forever and more. Well, what do you, you know, I've never heard her hit a bad note either. Yeah. So that's interesting. So you know, people said bad things about me, too, but nobody thinks they're bad. But how is it? How is it that they never said a bad thing about Dolly Parton and they've said some bad things about you? How does that work? Oh, I don't know, you know, my reputation precedes me. My reputation seems to be a lot more different than I am. But that's okay. My bad reputation's made me a damn good living, so I'm good with that. So don't say anything nice about me. No, I won't say it. Don't worry. But I don't know. Yeah, I don't know how the reputation and all that stuff works. But I think you're right. Willie and Dolly are two people who, you know, combined were, you know, 170 years old and nobody had anything bad to say about either one of them and then there's, like, moral hacker or more people had things to say, right? Yeah. Yeah. They were up from another world it's almost like, you know, they're in this world, but not of it. Kind of, you know, that's the way I feel about Dolly and Willie. Are you glad that you came up the time you came up like yes, yes, you got to see things and be around people and it was before everyone filmed everything and you got exposed to things that sort of, it's not really replicatable. I don't think it's doable anymore. No one can be there anymore. Yeah, I've always thought, yes, it was a great time for me. I was the youngster, the new kid on the, on the block. But you know, I'm a part, I could still be a part of the old and I know the Ernest Tubby's one of my best friends and I treasure those friendships with many parole and moral hacker and George Jones and, and so many others that I'm so grateful for, but I'm a part of the new as well. So I say, well, maybe I'm just a bridge between the two. So I've been trying to write this song called the bridge about being a part of the old and a part of the new because you know, you got to kind of keep up with the challenges as they used to say. Yeah. Or like, keep up with the, the Shenayas and the, the Beyonce's, you know, I mean, the, the L Langley's, you know, the Miranda's. So I'm trying to hang in there, you know, I, you know, it's kind of weird though, like, if you, if you look on the internet, they'll be footage of Frankie Valley singing or somebody and you know, someone will say, you got to hang it up or you got to retire at some point. Right. Like, it's kind of sad. Sometimes people get pushed up there and they're like, there's almost a shell of their former self and the internet is so cruel. It'll just isolate them singing and it'll do, save some snarky shit about David Lee Roth or something. Whoever it is, they're making fun of this week. And so now I'm always kind of torn. I'm sort of like leave the guy alone, leave the girl alone on the other hand. Hey, man, once you get to 80, I don't know. Maybe this time spend time with the grandkids, you know, I totally agree with you. I mean, I think everybody's individually have their own times. Everybody's got a number when they should stop and I, I, I, I brace myself every day, you know, because I don't want to be that I want to, I want to be able to just kind of dissolve this to dissolve out and leave the stage gracefully. But someone like Willie, Willie's going, he's going to die on stage. That's where he wants to be. So just, just wherever God decides to take me, it'd be great if it was on stage, you know. You'd like to go on stage. Well, I don't really, I mean, I don't want to go period, but I know that I've got a probably a date on my, on my name, but I'm going to get the best that I can get out of it life. Well, I'm still here and give as much as I can to rather try to make a difference in some of these things. And that's, you know, the kind of the problem I'm having in Texas right now with our ranch is they're trying to come through it and polish our home, my cattle, my horses, everything that these 765 kilowatt kilowatt transmission lines built by encore coming through our ranch and not just our ranch, but thousands of other landowners. I don't know the story. Tell me, tell me the story. It's just, it's all over Texas, they're, they're building these, these 200 foot kilowatt and 200, 200 feet high and there's got to be 300 or 200 feet on each side. So they have to come through, they kill all the volat. They, they destroyed the water table, just, they didn't even notify us. Well, what do they need it, what do they need it for? They want to take the, they want to send the power to West Texas, and so it's like, we're just saying, just pause governor Abbott, just pause and let's wait till the legislature comes back in in January and I'll make a good decision that this is the right option. It just feels like you're trying to sneak something in on us right there. And they're going, and they're doing it on your land? Yes. Mm-hmm. And thousands of other people. Ask you or pay you for that? No. No, be nice. Yeah, that would be nice. Well, the problem with our places where they're cutting through, it cuts us all from our house, separated from our house to our cattle. So what, they'll pay us for the land they go through. - Oh, I see. - So many acres. The rest of it's ruined, it's no good. It can't even sink in but away. Nobody wants to live under those lines. - Right. - And they'll deny that it's bad for your health and we know we all know it is. And there's people that cannot live under them because they either have cancer or they're afraid of getting it. So there's so many, I guarantee you though, the PEC Texas Public Utility Commission who is making the judgment on this and bringing the hammer down, they're the ones. I guarantee you they, none of them and none of encore who is building it, have any of those lines going through their property. So I just wonder what would happen if we'd move it over there to their property and wonder what they would say. Well, they wouldn't have it. - Yeah, just being not in my backyard. - We're really upset in Texas 'cause these people, you have to jump through so many hoops just in protest. You know, when there's this, you gotta do that, that, that. And a lot of these people don't know how to do that. So I'm speaking up for them on their voice. And I'm gonna be loud about it because it's not right. There's nothing right about it. How many acres do you have? - Well, we have 250 where we're at, but his cousin has another 250 than his sister's right there. They'll go right through her house too. So she has nowhere to go. - And you ride? - You know, I'm a singer, I can go on, you know? But these people can't. It's totally destroying their homes and their livelihood. That's what they make their money doing, raising and selling cattle and farming. - Yeah, you do cattle as well? - Oh, yeah, but I'm small time. I mean, there are people that are much, much bigger than we are. - Sure. - But just to think, you know, those are gonna come right through the property. And I, I don't see a good thing about it. Not one good thing. They need to stop it. And I'm serious, I mean, they might get bloated shotgun if they would have come out. 'Cause I mean, you gotta protect your home. - Yeah, and we're trying to destroy it, yeah. So these data centers are getting out of hand too. - Yeah, well, that's what I was thinking initially when you were talking about it. I thought you were talking about a data center, but you're talking about somehow. - Yeah, but it goes to the Permian Basin. And it, it does. It's going to, it's gonna be for data centers. But what do they leave us with nothing but start up land? And then they transfer everything to West Texas, which is the most powerful place in Texas. So they make their own power. Leave, just leave our land alone. So that's basically what I'm saying. And it's wrong, it's just wrong. - I was reading about you. And I was reading that you dated Murrow Hagard back in the day and a couple of other industries. - I ran away with him. - Ran away with him. How'd you run away with him? - Yeah, I didn't really date him. How'd that go? - I just, I just snuck out of my window when I was 21 and got on a plane and went to steam. And God, where was it, the place in Texas? But my dad cut up with me and about Murrow and Mississippi. So, and that's the year I played the, I opened the late class at Winter Olympics. So he dropped me off at Atlanta, the airport. Then I took a plane to a late class and then I got there. I opened it with Texas when I died. But yeah, I wanted to hang out with my hero. I just wanted to see how he was day to day and I ended up being best friends right up until the day he died. In fact, I was just with his boys, Noel and Benny Hagard and Teresa, his widow. And they all came over to my daughter's house the other day in Nashville, Presley. And we all cooked and seen all the Hagards and the Tuckers and the Kitchen was pretty funny. And we listened to Murrow Hagard and talked about him and what we missed about him. And it's just, you know, you don't see, you don't hear your many voices, well, you won't hear any voices like him. There's just not any of those anymore that stand out, you know. That's your doing missing. - The other name I found interesting with Jerry Cooney, the ex heavyweight boxer who famously fought Larry Holmes, probably like 86, 87. Cooney was a good heavyweight, but Larry Holmes was a great heavyweight. - Yeah, he was great. That's right. - Larry Holmes didn't really get his due 'cause he was kind of in the shadow of Ali and Frazier and Foreman. But the reality is, Larry Holmes was a heavyweight champ for like a decade. Like he was, he was unbeaten for a much longer period of time than Ali was. - Wow. - Yeah, he was, I mean, he was in the shadow of Ali, but the reality is, he was a really good heavyweight. - Really good, really good. - He was pretty much unbeatable for at least seven or eight years, which is a long time in the heavyweight. And Clooney probably caught on Cooney, I should say, got onto him right in the middle of his reign. And really, it was a good fight, but Larry Holmes was pretty much unbeatable when he was in his prime. But how do you and Jerry Cooney come about? - How did that happen? Well, I remember it was in New York City, but I think I met him in Las Vegas, but I saw him again in New York City and I was doing a thing with the tennis players. They had those entertainers matched with the tennis player. I was with Elyna of Stasi. And I was like, I don't even play tennis, you know? I never did play, but Joe Cocker was there that night. And then we all went to an after-hours place and of course, Clooney was with us in the group. I never dated him, though. We were, I could just stand next to somebody, I was dating him, but we just spent a little time together, had fun and I took him to studio 54, I think. - And before, oh my god. - By the way, Cooney was like six, six, maybe six, seven. I mean, he would stand out at studio 54, like literally stand out. - Well, yeah. - Well, my friends owned it at that time. I mean, Steve Rebell, of course was the first, but this was Mark Christian and his twin brother. And they owned a lot of properties all over Manhattan. So, you know, I'd stay with him in the hotel and he had a pen house. So there were people like coming in and at all hours, trying to think the one that cracked in his name. I miss, I'm gonna brain, you know what? - Part, yeah. - What was his name? - We'll figure it out. - Now, this is studio 54, like. - He was a black, kind of a rap singer, kind of a, but he passed. - All right, let's see. - And he was, he wore like some blonde wigs sometimes. - Yes, that was, he was in pen house. - Yeah, I know what that was. - I'm gonna think of his name as a second. Dave Chappelle played him. - Rick James? - Rick and James. - I'm gonna go Rick James, yeah. - Rick James, Rick James, yeah. - He was a cool guy, I spent a good time with him. I, you know, gave him this, but he's doing a little bit, but we had fun, you know, for a lot of different people. - I mean. - And George Steinbrinner, I mean. - George Steinbrinner. - Yeah. - Yeah, let's see. I don't think we're ever gonna replicate that time. Because - No, no. - Everybody's worried and there's a ring doorbell on every porch and everyone's got to follow the camera in it. And there's just no more of those times. I've always said - They're gone, they're gone. - Bowl and branch, most people actually keep their bedding way longer than they should. It slowly wears down and you don't realize how much it's affecting your sleep until you finally replace it. That's why I upgraded our bed with bowl and branch. They make everything your bed needs. They're signature organic cotton sheets, pillows, blankets, and comforters. Well, they're all designed to be breathable, incredibly soft, and get better over time. 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And didn't care. >> It was like a party favor. >> Yeah, so Studio 54 back in the day had to be crazy. >> Oh, especially for Halloween. I mean, it was like, you know, the crazy had their day, you know, and I saw Frank Zafan, I mean, that year. I'm sorry, are you in costume? >> You would see Michael Jackson be there, Brooke Shields, Mick Jagger, everyone would just be Andy Warhol. >> Andy Warhol, that's it, yes. I said, who's the little guy taking pictures of me? Like, so that's Andy Warhol. >> I mean, well, those were the times though, that they'll never be again, it was for that time. >> Yeah. >> It was just, it was really pretty special, very special time. >> Well, I remember Bernie Poffen being there one night, and we spent a lot of time in the dungeon. >> That had done you. Well, Calvin Klein and the good guys. >> Here's what I will say, and you can correct me, because you were there, but you take something like those times, and there's never going to be those times again, because everything is so regulated, and there's so many lawyers, and there's a camera everywhere. >> Yes. >> In a way, it was kind of like automobile racing. Automobile racing used to be really dangerous, but it was exciting, but people got killed, but it was at time. And now, it's very safe. It's very regulated, and it's very safe. And they're still professional racing, and it's still exciting, but it's not what it was when people were getting killed out there. >> Same thing with bull riding. >> Yes. >> Bull riding. >> Yeah, guys wearing hockey helmets shouldn't be on bulls wearing catchers face masks, and a chest protector. >> And there's all that, yeah. >> You should be wearing a cowboy hat, and you should be drunk. >> Back in the day, they didn't do that. >> That's what I'm saying. I agree, I mean, there was a guy, I'm trying to think who the guy was in NASCAR, but there was a guy drove NASCAR that had a cigarette lighter installed in his car, and he had a cigarette lighter installed car, because he liked to smoke, and he pull in for pit stop, and while they're changing his tires and refueling, he would like a cigarette, dick trickle, dick trickle, with smoke. >> Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. >> Because while you're refueling his car, you know, he can just, he can just burn one, and he would be arrested today, but it's what. >> That is so funny. >> Made that stuff the way it was. >> The real cowboys back in those days, you know, everything's totally different, just like Nashville. I mean, I go back and forth, I live in Texas now, but I'm back and forth there because my business is there, but I'm, I'm telling you, it's, I don't recognize the town, it's not a town anymore. It is a bustling city with lots of traffic, and I tell them I said, hell, the, the, the crane should be the state burden, because there's one on every corner. >> Yeah. >> I mean, they're going up everywhere. >> They're building. >> Yeah, everything's different now. I'm just glad I got to be born at this time, you know. >> Yeah, you got these times. >> No, you got to see it. >> Yeah. >> And everyone else is kind of hear stories and looks at pictures. >> They'll just read about it, yeah. >> But you, you got to live it and you got started so young that you got a lot of years of it. >> Yes. >> Who were, so you got Elvis, you got Sinatra, I mean, you got everybody at some point wandering through your, wandering through your life. Who else are we forgetting? >> We're talking about Reagan, you know, the movie Reagan, which I guess they're going to re-release that this next week. And of course, I have a song on the soundtrack called "Do We Want to Fight" or "Do We Want to Win." It's a Chuck Cannon song and a really great song. Something totally different than I've ever done before. I stepped outside the box for Chuck. I mean, he's so great. And Mark Joseph, and of course Quaid, you know, Dennis Quaid is a very good one. >> That's great. He's great. Quaid's great. >> And we have a new video in a song out now on my way to heaven with Christopherson. It's his last performance. >> Wow. >> So I've got all these things going on than Shania just released a record called "Little Miss Twain," which I'm a part of. And in fact, I just heard it on the way over here. And she talks, you know, just about the thread, my thread going through her life. And her mother always said, you know, "According to my mother, I'm the next tannu tucker." Because her mother always thought she was going to be the next tannu tucker. And so she pushed her, like my dad pushed me to try to get started. And so we've become very good friends. And I was with her for my birthday and recorded that song. But I thought it was so great. So I've got all these things going on. And then these transmission lines. And then I'm doing this save the muni tonight, which has been print show. He's going to, they want to save this golf course. And I think they should. It's 102 years old. But I'm involved in so many things. And now this movie's coming back out. So I don't know. My life is not my own. >> There, I feel the same way. >> Do you? >> I saw you with the book. I saw you on TV. >> Yeah. >> That's nice. >> I'm on TV. >> I was like, yeah, yeah, you did great. Now, do you have brothers and sisters? And if you do, what was it like being the one with the talent who your dad was getting behind so early? Because that would be strange for the brother and the sister, whoever, or other siblings, right? >> Well, the thing about it was, as my brother was the oldest. And then my sister was seven years younger. And I was seven years younger than her. So there was a lot of, there were seven years between us. And my brother was in pilot school in college. And my sister also went to the Tocheese College in Douglas, Arizona. And then my brother went to Brian Texas. He was in the military academy there. And then he got stabbed by some guys in a movie theater and almost killed him. And I remember going down there when I was a kid. But my dad, he worked a lot. But he was my mentor. And I was a kid. And I loved it. He made me practice over and over. So they weren't really involved so much. Because you had one that was too young and one that was already out. Is that how it worked? Your brother was out of the house. >> Yeah, he was, he was, yes, and gone to school. And in my sister, she left and went to school. So I had the parents by myself. >> Oh, okay. >> And so I got into horses and lived out in the country on Port Grant Road in Wilcox, Arizona. And I still love horses to this day. I still have horses. But later on, of course, my brother, he drove my bus. And my sister got a record deal. And she had several number like top five records. She never had a number one. But she had some pretty big records. So she did quite well. And my dad always thought that one of us does well, then we're going to help the others. So that's what that's what we did. And if there was any jealousy, I don't, I didn't know about it, you know. >> So you, when did you, I mean, you started 13 by the time you're late teenager, you're good on your own, right? I mean. >> My dad said you're never going to be an adult as long as I'm alive. So he, it didn't matter how old I was. He was there. And sometimes it, you know, like anybody, you know, we get annoyed at our parents for always always being right. And he usually was. He just, well, he was always right. And now I see it more than ever now that he, when he, I wish I'd listened to him more when he was alive. That's my big regret. Because he was, he was number, he was on my side. And I'll never have anybody be on my side like that again. >> You think you were, were you rebelling, you think? >> Oh, of course. I went through my rebellious years in my 20s. But I went, I was on the cover of the inquiry when I went through my rebellious years. So it was a little different than this normal. But normal whenever it was in my vocabulary. So it was different. It was a different way of life. But it was the one it was meant for me. >> Yeah. >> So I was I mean, again, that's kind of a crazy time, but it's not replicable because of the way our society is. It's not for anything. I mean, it's almost like it was written down somewhere that this is, I'm just playing out the role, you know, it was meant to be. And they just have to, that's the only thing I can come up with. Yeah, I mean, yeah, it's kind of interesting when you think about it, like, are you in the cockpit flying the plane or are you just in the back of the plane along for the ride? And sometimes you can make the argument for being in the cockpit, but sometimes it feels like you're just sitting in coach, hopefully business and you're just, you're just going to the place that the plane is going. Yeah, exactly, and you're just doing what you're supposed to be doing, you think. So, you know, I look, people say I don't ever look back, but I look back, looking back helps me look forward and prevent me from making some of the same mistakes. So I look back long enough to know that I am moving forward. And sometimes it's hard to tell, you know, especially when you are somebody that's visible and celebrity, you know, sometimes it's people don't understand that you're just really, you know, a plain old simple person, they might not be as entertained as they knew the real me, but I don't know, I like people, the people are, are you got to serve somebody. So I try to serve the public as much as I can to keep them happy. I was also, when I was reading about you on the way in today, I also saw that you dated Andy Gibb back in the day. And true, no, we're, Andy and I were really good friends. We hung out at the cafe central and, and New York and, and the China Club. I mean, we go to Zenon's. So we were, that was our party stage. And, but no, we didn't date any, yeah, you know, it was a really upset about his breakup with Victoria's, Victoria principal. He was, and I'm sort of a shoulder to cry on, you know, yes, he, famed and I was the youngest Gibb brother. Yes. And he had hits and he was kind of had everything going on. I mean, it's very good. Well, he did. He was talented. He had it all. And he dated Victoria principal, who was on Dallas, I think. Dallas. Yes. Yes. It was beautiful. Still is. I think she's still with us for sure. Yes. She married a plastic surgeon. Very. Very glassman. And she was, I think, I think she's a little bit older than him. Yes. And I guess they broke up and he had a lot of trouble with it. He did. He did. He had a hard time dealing with that. I wish I'd had more time with him because I could have told him, I could have probably talked him out of that, but, uh, you know, he don't ever want somebody who don't want you. I don't want you even more. So, I would have to give him my speech, not probably dead, but he was a general soul. And, um, you know, I miss him, it's a great, great talent for the great talent. Yeah, I know. And Barry's the only one left now, you know, and he is, all the brothers are gone. Barry Gibbs, the only one left. Yeah. And Andy died. Very young. I think he was in his 20s. Oh, yes. Yeah. 32 or 33, maybe I'm not that old. It's crazy if you hang around long enough and, uh, you know, yeah, well, it's kind of, see what, see how the story ends. Yeah, it's kind of, but it's almost, I don't know if you feel like it was, it almost a dream, like, almost, you were there. Oh, time. Oh, time. It's like another person was, you know, I see myself sometimes doing. Something on my kids will show me, uh, and I'm going, wow, I don't, it's just like, it's, that's just someone else doing that, not me. Yeah. I mean, like, opening the winter Olympics and was it 1980? 1980. Mm-hmm. But sometimes it really gets me, though, when someone plays me a song that I don't remember recording, and I've got a pretty good memory, um, I said, you never met a memory like me. But, uh, uh, that's, it's not thinking, oh, my God, what's happening to me? I'm losing it. Uh, but I guess when you get to, to the point where you've done so much, I guess it's hard to put them in little compartments and remember things, but I've been told that I have a good memory. Just on certain things, though. Did you hang out? That was the miracle on ice here. By the way, like, Placid, those American. Oh, the Russians, the Russians and the Americans and the, and the hockey. I was there. Did you hang out if you were able to watch some of this stuff? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I was right above them, like right where they were, uh, playing and they was just, and it was a very, very, uh, energy driven, I mean, there were some people that were, I mean, you go, I didn't really know a whole lot about hockey, you know, but it was so exciting. I wanted to learn and, uh, and when in the Olympic Village, too, we, everybody, because I stayed where the athletes stayed. So I think it's a prison now or something, but, uh, you know, it took a lot to get in there. I mean, you know, they were, and I had, if you have a headache, I think what do you give you an Advil, you know, uh, they just wouldn't, they're very strict. And so there were 350 athletes and I actually stayed in the, the same, uh, place of there. It was a, a big building. I don't like the school or a prison or something, but then at night, everybody could go down the, the Olympic Village and we traded pens. So I had, you know, American pens and I'll give you two might tell you and for the, like, you're training or something. So that was, I have got a big a bag of ins, I wear, uh, you were there to do the opening ceremony, right? Yes. I opened it. Right. Well, Garrison was there. Right. Yeah. All Garrison, who's ex, uh, Dallas Cowboys running back. Yes. And remember Heidi, uh, and her brother, Eric, Eric Heiden, Eric Heiden, Eric Heiden and his sister. Right. Speed skaters. And they were the speed skaters. Yeah. Well, I went out and did my show because I performed for them. And it was wild because not many of them could speak English. And, uh, so I said, well, I don't know, I don't know how to get them. So when I did my last song, I went off and I borrowed Heidi, uh, Eric Heiden's sister. Was her name Heidi? I can't remember her name. I know he was. Yeah. And they're both speed skaters. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I borrowed her speed skating. And it was just like, you know, it's like another, it's just like a skin. And I mean, just tight every, and then I put the hood, I tucked the hood down up underneath my, and my neck. So you took her and I went back out and did an encore and I mean, they lost it. They lost it. They were throwing cheese in the air, you know, best items. Funny. So you put her like singlet on like her, her, her, well, what would have been just a yoga stance with a yoga top, just your skin, just your skin. And you took the hood for aerodynamics and tucked it back into the thing and went out there and everyone went like, yeah, that's a crazy memory. And then you hung out long enough to watch the Russians and the Americans play. Are they hockey? Yes. Yes, I did. I did. So from Merrill Haggard to the Olympics, and then I don't know what I did after that, but that was, I think I stayed another few days in that like classic, it was just beautiful. And plus several times giving me stuff, you know, they're, here have some skis, you know, Rossignol, or have some gloves. I said, I loved it. It was a lot of fun. I got to know a lot of the athletes, yeah. That's interesting. And of course, my friend was the trainer, the coach for the ski team, the US ski team. Most barrels. And we just recently lost him, but he was the original crash of 68, the crash of 68, where he ABC, Wild World Sports, well, that was the long, that was, agony defeat. That was him. Yes. That was the ski jump. Yeah. Well, he lost it and he broke a lot of bones and he's a bigger skier, you know, he, that's why they call him moose. But he was, of course, really kid was one of my best friends. I always has been. He was immortalized at the beginning of the book. of the wide world of sports because of the Aggies to feed, just kind of interesting. It's kind of interesting, I, you know, on one, I mean, because it's, it's the famous footage with the guy doing the ski jump, but he somehow eats it on the way down and then just goes ass over tee kettle off the end of the thing and, and gets the shit kicked out. But, but, and you know, it's kind of weird. So in one way, you're mortalized, screwing up something you do. On the other hand, everyone knows you are because you've definitely seen, everyone's seen the agony of defeat. Of your failure, you know, because that, that he played dearly for that. But, you know, it's like anything. It's like he, everybody sees mine too. So when I have a failure, it's, it's well documented. Yeah, but it's not the front of a TV show that runs every Sunday. No, that's 25 years. I guess it could be. We have a, you know, I'm in Los Angeles now. Oh my gosh. I don't know if we have that. Do we have no king of the road is something else, but that is what's his name? We just mentioned. No, I did, I did a king of the road for a Trans-Am commercial. Oh, he did. I'll pay the for sale the rent room to let 50 cents No drink no I ain't got no cigarettes all but three hours of pollution She's I should get out there open for you. Roger Miller. Do we have that commercial? Oh, man. I've got to see this one Oh, this is gonna take us back. I think we want to buy a Trans-Am I should have got one. I mean they gave me one but oh they gave you one for the commercial They did, but I was stealing for not taking it. I took a bigger car. I should have taken That's Trans-Am. Oh, they gave me a choice Yeah, they did and they shouldn't have That's good. I made the wrong one. All right, let's see Let's take a walk down memory lane What tiny teens. Oh my god. There it is and a Trans-Am Famine Oh Oh A way Now, oh my god, do you You have to memorize that song obviously. Yeah, I was thinking about that now. How did I memorize it? Do that? Somebody writes it and goes you got to memorize this song or do you go give me some key cards, man Well, I don't remember any key cards, but I had to lip sync it, you know But I had to record it at some point Um, which I could read the words then, but I had to learn the words to do to do that And I love that car. Dang it's crazy for not getting that car. Yeah, smoking band decisions. I worry about myself Well, going up in value. There were something now. Dang it. I know just dog on it. Yeah, it's spilt milk It's back when the if you didn't advertisement they just give you a good give me the thing you're advertising Yeah, you know the back when they used to do a lot of things, you know, yeah Where'd you shoot that do you remember? I some soundstays there in LA. Oh really? Yeah, so they've rolled that question. Where Could have been, you know, a lot of places it could have been, but that's where we did it. Yeah Banking LA. All right, Tony. Let me give you a plug a first off the Reagan movie, which I recommend and of course Dennis Quays great In it as well as Reagan and a great dude He is just fine And when they asked me to do the song I was uh, I was elated. I mean, I'd love to Loved it and it was a perfect song for that. It's in the director's kind which is going to be a re-released in theater September 25th And then Tony, where do we find you if we want to find you dates, tours, events Things of that You know, I'm I'm the worst about that, but I guess tangy talker.com. I don't know though Yeah, well, you know, you'd be managed. You're the queen of the road, but I don't have a manager. So I'm going to kill my career, but being my own assistant You can't kill your career already you already had a 50 year career. You can't kill it. Yeah I guess I just want to be with you, Tony. I hope you come join us again soon I want to be there with you though when you're in LA next time you're shooting a Pontiac Trans-Am Spotted out here in LA come we'll take a ride and you say hi All right, we'll take care. I love to see you. I'd love to see you, Tony. It will take a mo gracing loves you too Give Mo my love. We'll take a quick break. 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Yeah, good jobs, sir. Keep up the great work. You can leave us a message at 888-634-1744. Yeah, Rudy Scott is news. Yeah, I did, uh, Hannity went to his place in Florida. Uh, so it's like, you know, you get right out of the gate. I don't like Kimmel. I don't know what you know about being Kimmel. I know you like Kimmel. Made fun of Bologna. Yeah. What do you think about a guy makes fun of Bologna? Trump. Okay. Here we go. We just have a scotch and just enjoy each other's company for five minutes before I have to try to defend my friend. Got to get right into it. Yeah. Oh, he's got to get into it all the time. Uh, all right. So, uh, last week I was at the RNC. Mm-hmm. And I was giving us a thing and, uh, you know, trying to think, I, uh, these things get agreed upon at some point. I don't pay them any never mind for, for an extended period of time. And then, you know, at some point, I arrive at the place and it's the Enormo dome and you look out over the place and you see this giant stage and all these people and, you know, the cameras and security, you know, just security getting into the place and, you know, patting everyone down. And I, I mean, barriers everywhere. I mean, like, nutty, you know, nutty kuku. I don't know if there's more security that you would see, you know, just nothing but security. And, uh, then you like walk into the bowels of the place and it's, it's, it's enormous and there's tons of people and everyone's, you know, literally guys talking in their sleeve and, uh, you know, you look out on stage and, and then at some point it kind of dawns on you like, oh, I'm going to do this thing, which it never really dawns on me before that. I don't, I don't have a lot of thoughts about it. I was just traveling and working and I was in Hawaii and yeah, I didn't give it, I didn't give it any thought, you know, and then, then you get down to, um, well, it's kind of getting close to the time you're going to be doing this and the place fills up and there's, I don't know, 12,000 people in the place, 10,000, I don't know many people in there. It's where they play bass with the average play basketball. And, uh, there's all cameras everywhere and all the pundits everywhere and everyone's walking around and starting to recognize, you know, people and celebrities and, uh, you know, politicians and stuff. And then it kind of dawns on you like, oh, I got to go out there and do something. And then I'm not really exactly sure how this is going to work. So then you go into a, it's kind of smart. They have a teleprompter room. They have two teleprompter rooms. That was going to be my question was because I saw the clip of you on it. I couldn't tell. It didn't seem like you were on teleprompter. You have like, you would never use one, but not really. Yeah. Well, so what it is. Sorry, I'm getting a cup of coffee meat. It's kind of, I, if you want to do and encapsulate my life, I think you would do it this way. They have the teleprompter and there's two kinds of teleprompters. There's the, the one that's good is just the big screen that's straight ahead. It's the one they use on the Oscars and the Emmys and the, everyone walks out there and they just look straight down the barrel of the camera. And it's like a 80-inch TV at the back. And it's not at the top. It's like where the split of the deck is for the theater where the lower seats are before they go up to them. They just put it there. It's not great because people in the audience can look back and literally just read what's on the prompter. They're giving away the joke. Yeah. But you walk out and you just look right down the barrel and you just, it's right in front of you. It's directly in front of you. These ones are the mirrored ones. The glass ones are to the right and to the left. And it's the same thing running on both of them. Both of them are the size of a, of a notepad. They're about like, it's like, it's like if somebody just held the notepad up with a glass and it reflects and it has whatever you want on it. But as I was saying, when I went to the teleprompter room, we're going to go over your teleprompter, I go, you know, it's kind of weird because you're looking to the right and then you look to the left. It's there to go. I'm looking to the right. I'm looking to the left. But you never really look down the middle, which is what you would do if you were speaking. And then also for the uninitiated, like me, who doesn't do teleprompter very well. I've never done the reflection glass ones. It's kind of weird. You look to the right for a little and then you you have to go pick it up on the left. You pick it up for a while and then you got to go to the right. For me, with some reading difficulties, the biggest problem is stopping and starting. I can't figure out the place. I left off, you know, anyway. So I said to the guy in the teleprompter room, I go, is it going to look weird? First off, it's going to look weird just staying on one side the whole time. It's like you're just looking to the right the whole time. And then it also is going to look weird if I just stay the left the whole time. But you know, would it look better just to go from the right, you know, back to the left and then back to the right and the guy in the teleprompter room goes the best way to do it. You just look right down the middle because that's where your camera is. Yeah, I know, but there's no fucking words there. You fucking idiot like, yes, I know. I know it's great to look right down the middle, except for there's no words there. So I don't know, but I get it. That's the best. Yeah, the best is commit everything in memory like you're doing Man of Lamontia for the 15th year in a row and don't look at anything. That's almost kind of what you have to do. I mean, you're not, you're not the most excellent reader as well. So if you're not staring directly at it, I can only imagine how difficult it is. Yeah, finally, you just said, you know, it just put still owns cobra on both these and let me just let me see what happens. That's right. Well, I had angel on one because there was a street walker at night, but by date she was an honorable student and then I had cobra on the other one. For sure. So the guy's explaining just looks straight ahead, except for there's no teleprompter straight ahead, but I appreciate his advice. Yeah. So I don't know also how guys get themselves into that position, like you know, my advice is look straight ahead where there's no teleprompter and deliver it straight to the camera, except for I don't know what I'm delivering. So I worked it out with them, but I said, I'm just, I'm going to have a couple of things that are written, but also I need everything else that's got to be beats and I'll just look up and I'll, I'll see where the beats are, you know, and I will, I'll pick it up at the beats. Yeah. That's a sign of a good comic. Doesn't write everything out. Just beats. Just, you know, you just need one word on a piece of paper and it'll jog your memory. Yeah. Also, or on a glass, a glass screen. Did you do any time traveling while you were up there? Because I've never done an arena, but I've done 7,000 people in a theater. And when you get on stage and that light hits you and you get off stage, you go, I don't remember the last 15 minutes of my life. I don't, I, all I know is I walked on stage and now I'm off stage and I don't remember anything in between. I, uh, I was pretty good. I was pretty there. I had a sleep issue. I had a travel issue. I had a time issue. I had a lot of issues. So I left Hawaii at six o'clock and I landed in Dallas at seven a.m. So I left six p.m. and I landed at seven a.m. And I couldn't do all the math because of Dallas's Hawaii's three hours earlier than L.A., but Dallas is two hours later than L.A. Really? You left at six p.m. and Hawaii and ended up in Dallas at seven p.m.? Seven a.m. Oh, seven a.m. No, sorry. I should have said a.m., but I figured you could do that math. I left at six p.m. from Hawaii, but because there's a time difference, but there's not 11 hours. But I know there was a layover or something like that. That's why I thought that'd be weird. Oh, you mean the next? No, no, no, no, okay. I should have said a.m. p.m., but you could have done the math. I left at six p.m. I landed at seven a.m. in Dallas. Yes. And then I got back to the hotel. I got up to my room at probably like eight a.m. and then I had to be down at the event center at two p.m. which it was gave me a nice time to go to bed because I'd really been to bed. I was on a flight, you know, I could recline and that kind of stuff, but really sleep, you know, I'm not a good, I'm a belly sleeper. I'm six foot two. So it's just not really ever going to work on a flight. But so I get there and they got me a sweet And everything's good and I'm like now I'm gonna go to bed and I'm gonna get some sleep because I'm just no good on lack of sleep. It bothers me. It's it's it's it's like different people function different ways and different situations and for me Sleep deprivation is just not good. It's it's not good for me It's not good for being up on stage. It's not good for memorizing stuff and picking up beats and stuff like that I'm just I'm just off both people are yeah, but they'll do the studies and guys with no sleep that drive a car And it equals them and like I don't you know point for Yeah, level or something, you know, yeah, that's what I would say to the officer This is I can smell the no sleep on your breath son. I go here. I only had one no sleep, sir Just had one so Um, I get into my room and I go I'm going I'm taking a nap But I'm not just taking the nap. I'm going to bed for the night Essentially because I haven't been the sleep yet and I'm gonna get me some sleep. So I go to bed at about eight and at about ten a.m Mm-hmm. I start hearing noise the noise of water And I go what is this it basically sounds like someone fired up the bathtub And I go into the bathroom and it's the bat there's water all over the tub and I go Something wrong with the spiket or the shower something like that shower separate tub separate And I'm looking at it and I look up As he water coming from the light fixture in the ceiling above the top And I'm like That's broken upstairs some some pipe main yeah something now best I can do is I think well maybe whoever's above me Maybe they left the tub running And it's overflowing now sure the tubs have a runoff. Mm-hmm, but you can't overflow. Sure So I'm like maybe just some chick up there left the tub on and then passed out or something orange either might be a dead hooker Yes, yes, so I go It's dripping in the tub now it's making a lot of noise because it's falling from the ceiling down to the tub So I do What any hero would do which is I grab the bath mat and I throw it in the tub just to cushion the sound sure And then I go fuck I'm going back to bed I go back to bed And now I hear more I love this I hear more water and I'm like there's more I can hear there's more and now I open the door to the toilet And it's coming down in the toilet too so it's coming down through the light fixture above the tub And above the toilet wow and I'm like it's really on now. Yeah, and I'm like Maybe it'll stop because I have to would have to repack all my bags Get dressed and go find another room in the middle of my ram And I'm I'm on the clock now. I'm running out of time to sleep I got to meet Mike at one o'clock down in the lobby or whatever And so I'm like I'm like I'm like on the clock and I'm like So I go you know what I'm just gonna lay down I'm just gonna lay down and hopefully it stops or whatever is going on above me someone gets a hold of this problem And I get up like every like 15 minutes I get up and I just put the light on and I can see it's not slow down at all And uh with my contracting background. I'm like I know what's going on some pipes fucked up And this thing's coming down and it's not gonna just stop on its own It's just on and I live with it for like half an hour and I'm like now my floor is flooding So now the bathroom floor my place is flooding And I'm like God damn it. I'm in my underpants. I'm like I don't want to have to repack and leave this room I'm in a suite. I just want to go to bed I like all right. So I go well now I'm gonna call the front desk Except for there's no phone in the room. Mm-hmm. The phones. I don't know maybe optional these days There's no phone. I can't find the phone anywhere in the room. So I now pick up my phone and I'm like I have to call the W Hotel and Dallas and then of course First thing I do is I try to look it up and I dial and it's you know, it's kayak You know we can get you the best race at the room for W. I get and I keep finding around find like I find like call I get the front desk I get the automation. I put put on hold For 10 minutes then it gets hung up on eventually I get hold Of somebody the front desk and I don't know. There should be a code for I know what I'm talking about I'm like then what's the issue sir? There's water. Is it on the floor? Just It's an issue believe me it's an issue. It's an issue. They go. Oh, we'll send up maintenance I'm like all right, but there's nothing maintenance It's in the roof in the ceiling. Okay, it's nothing so this Ten minutes later. So Chicano chick shows up. She's like maintenance. I'm like all right good luck She like walks into the room into the bathroom turns the light on looks up and does see like I Know like I I go yeah, she saw the chupacabra I was like, okay, she's like oh, no, no, no, no I'm like yeah, I know cheap. She leaves I call back to the desk. I go listen. I we got to switch rooms. See the guys like yeah, I know I talk to maintenance You got to switch rooms. I go okay Then there's a knock on the door and it's the guy from the front desk and he's like also can we do this? Could we wait? Five Mississippi before you knock again You know what I mean a sweet. It's a sweet like I'm over on the in the bedroom. So I say That's just give it yeah, just wait wait five seconds. I will walk out I'm not gonna do a fucking shoulder roll like it's a beginning of swat. I'm walking To the front door, but you got a knock you got to hit it again So then open the door it's a guy from the front desk and he goes yeah This room's not gonna work, but we can get you into another room. I go Please like as fast as we can because I got to get to I'm in a sleep yet I gotta go to I gotta go sleep He goes okay, how long is it gonna take to pack up your bag? I go it's two minutes. Just I'm I'm gonna pack up Let's go. He goes all right. I'll be back with the key I go okay hurry Pack up my bag Stand there by the front door five minutes ten minutes goes. Of course. He's not back. Of course. Yeah, so then I do what I do Which is a dumb thing that I always do. I try to move things along By doing something on my end like I'm all packed up He's not I'm at the end of the hall He's nowhere around, but he said he'd be five minutes, but it's been 15 I'm just gonna get all my shit and lug it to where the elevator is He'll have to come up the elevator when he pops up the elevator then I'll go what's where's my new room? What floor around we'll get in the elevator? We'll go to it sure Then I stand by the elevator while people exit the elevator just look at me like a weirdo Because I'm just standing at the whole time you're getting on. No, I'm just staying here and my shorts I'm not going anywhere At some point then I go well fucking I gotta go to the lobby With all my luggage by the way and find this guy who said he was coming right back up so then I take all my luggage including the merch bag I go down to the lobby now everyone's awake and walking around and dressing suits and stuff And I'm in shorts and flip flops and I come dragging on my shit through the lobby And I see the guy and he's chatting up somebody and I'm like hello, and he's like oh, yeah, it's coming right up Okay, okay Why does everything have to go so you go oh, I got your new room blah blah blah so he got me checked into my new room and it was fine. It was all good, but now At this point, however it worked out I'd figured out I have one more hour of sleep Then I have to get up I have to get my shit together And uh also I got a work so I got to like figure stuff out and then I was just laying there in my bed and I was thinking about The stuff that they cut I had some jokes that they cut and and the guys like uh Well, we cut we cut stuff so go ahead and replace it with something But I'm like I don't have an unlimited supply of jokes. It would work in this arena Sure, that are she rated or PG I don't have a cacophony of jokes for this place. I can't just go get new jokes but uh But I was laying there in bed and I just had this thought about I should open with a land acknowledgement It just it just popped into my head And I thought that would be good. That would be good to open with a land acknowledgement. So When you Do the event they assign you a rider But the rider doesn't I mean he may write for other people He doesn't write for me. He gets all my stuff Kind of sorts it out and then says yeah, you can't say this and you you can't say that We're not gonna do the guantanamo bay joke and we can't do that I like those shows when the because you will pitch jokes to them three weeks before the event And then they come back to you a week before and go now you can't do this can't do this And then it's seven minutes before you're about to go on stage and you pitch up something they go Yeah, yeah, that's fine go ahead And you're like well if I were to pitch this three weeks ago, you know totally shat all over it Well, they cut some stuff and I get it, you know the situation environment and the jokes were like a little Somali and Guantanamo Bay and like some stuff. Okay, fine. So it cuts a few and I go to them, but I want to open with a land acknowledgement and he goes, oh, that's good. Yeah, that'd be that'd be a good idea. And I go, yeah, okay, I haven't really susted out like exactly what it is just yet, but I'll figure it out, but just understand. I'm going to open with a land acknowledgement and he goes, oh, okay. And so then we go into the teleprompter room. It's just a room with a teleprompter and three people. Of course, Mike was eating the whole time in the room. I had to fill in with candy like Mike said, it was like Halloween. He was eating peanut butter cups and eating the whole time. And and the guy, so the guy goes the writer guy goes, I'm going to listen. I got that I think I figured out the land acknowledgement. I wrote it, I wrote it out how I wanted it. And he goes, oh, I wrote one too. And I go, well, let me see what you got. And his thing was like, yeah, we're hearing Dallas, the land acknowledgement, blah, blah, blah. And I was like, okay, that's that's fine. But we're going to, we're going to replace it with what I got. I mean, it was like a placeholder. He didn't, he's, you know, he's not, he wasn't writing for me, but he did, he took a pass at the land acknowledgement. And I said, yeah, that's, that's good. But here's what I got. Let's just do this. And I, I dictated him, mine, he's typing it in. So it's okay. So now we go, let's, let's go the prompter. Let's, let's run it through the prompter once. I go, okay. So go there and it starts with, I like to do a land acknowledgement. And then it, it's his. And I go, hold on, where's now, now this is a part of life I'm always curious about. I go, well, hold on, this is the wrong script because now this is the right script. I go, but, but that's your land acknowledgement. Yeah. I go, what I gave you the land acknowledgement. Yeah, that's a land acknowledgement. I go, no, no, I told you the land acknowledgement. Yeah, that's what that is. Yeah, this is my, I go, right, I go, no, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's not, it's, that's your, that's your one. Then I gave you my one. Yeah. No, this is that script. I go, but it's not that script because it, it has yours in it. Yeah. You wanted the land acknowledgement. Yeah, I wanted my land acknowledgement in there. Yeah, yours is in there. Well, mine is in there. Mine's replacing yours. No, we, we have the land acknowledgement. And then we have yours is under it. I go, I'm not doing too late. I'm not doing too separate land acknowledgments. What I just dick. Hold on, what part of where I go, yeah, that's great. What you did is like a six and a half or seven. Like that, that's fine. Now here's, I'm just going to word it this way. I'm just going to take it and just kind of tweak it. I'm doing it this way. And he just dutifully types the whole thing and then starts with his. And then he's like, yeah, yours is underneath. Yeah, but we got to get rid of yours. Wow. You don't want to do the land acknowledgement? I got to wait a minute. Oh, hold on. I don't know what's going on now. Like I'm literally standing there and everyone's looking at me. Like I'm in maniac. I go, I don't know what's going on. I told you that mine replaced yours with mine. So you don't want to do a land acknowledgement? Like it's a weird. What is so difficult about everything all the time? I said to the guy, I'm going to open the land acknowledgement. He took a pass. His pass was fine. And then I got with him and I go, I dialed it in. Here's what I want. So just put this in the land acknowledgement. And then he puts it under his. And now it's a ball of confusion. That's now a world. Now we're going down this weird road where I'm going, this isn't the script and he's going, yeah, it's a script. I'm going, yeah, but I didn't, it says Texas. That's not mine. No, yours isn't there. But this isn't what I wanted. You wanted a land acknowledgement. Like it's now we're just fucking going in circles and it's weird. And I don't get it. Like I don't know what that is. It's almost as if as for a guy who's a writer, it's his first time ever having this situation pop up where he's had to write for somebody who is also a writer. If it's nobody ever told him, hey, man, your joke was fine. But we got to replace this. It doesn't, it doesn't make sense. Probably not. I guess a red light that goes on for this guy like a, hang on, wait a minute. Does it something doesn't feel right? We're going to do two jokes about the same thing feels weird. I agree. It's always confusing. It's always exacerbated by no one else in the room has any idea what's going on with stupid land acknowledgement arguments. And at some point, we just figure it out. And I go, okay, now, now I got to, now I got to print this out so I can take it with me so I can look at it because I've never really, really looked at it. But it's also, it's also an interesting, also there's another interesting part of life. I'm a with the guy backstage and I go, the teleprompter, can they, can they print that out? What's in the teleprompter? Can they print that out? And he goes, yeah, I think, I think they could probably do that. I'm not sure, but I think they could do that. I go, good, it'd be good to get a printout of it. He goes, okay, then we go in there, he's writing on his laptop. And I said to the teleprompter person, can we print out what's on the teleprompter? And she goes, well, yeah, it's in his laptop. He can just go print it out. And then he goes, yeah, I'll go print that out. Why don't you just say it's in my laptop? Yes, I'll go print it out. Why do we have to go? I think I can talk them into what's with the communication? That's all I'm saying. Like, why is everything confusing? I don't get it. He just go, yeah, I write it out my laptop. I just go the back and print it out. It's not even up to them. We can print out whatever we want. It's in my laptop. 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We'll just get your free cheese and free school and free Medicare and we'll get your free shit. Yeah. I was rich people start bribing people. Yeah. Why not? I was in Minnesota when Jesse Ventura was elected governor and I got that first Jesse check when I was 18. It was like 900 bucks. Really? And it was, as a 18 year old kid who's never had more than $7 in his pocket, $900. It just magically shows up in your bank account. You are a rich man. I like Jesse Ventura, although he has gone completely insane, right? I watched that dude break up a fight during that election. Really? He was on the road. He came to, I'm from Hibian, Minnesota. He was speaking there, went down to, it was during like our, our and they got the king and queen and they got everybody goes to the hotel that night and they hang out before the election and Jesse was there and two dudes were drunk in the bar and he's having a drink and these guys start getting lippy with each other and Jesse stands up and grabs both these guys by the collar and it's like not on my dime. He got time to believe. But just slack junk fangs around here and just slams them down. We had a tape of him doing his show when he did his radio show in Minnesota and we used to play it on a loop, somebody sent it to us and it was him just in that voice going. Man show, best show on TV, best show on TV and we'd always just play it in our office made us laugh. He's great. Yeah. He's fantastic. Gavin Newsom. Well, there's a lot of things that were happening that we've been told that never happened but illegal aliens getting welfare in the United States turns out that's actually going on. California governor Gavin Newsom bragging about this giving tax dollars to illegal aliens on Don Lemon's show. He's such a good guy. He's wise Gavin Newsom out here in South Carolina has stayed in his jambles and he's not serving the people of South Carolina. Well, I mean, I mean serving the people of California, excuse me. I think they deserve more than a $7.25 minimum wage here. I think they deserve more than a governor refuses to expand Medicaid. Oh, yeah. Hold on a second. We don't expand him. The governors do this. They just go to other states that are across the country and sit down and start talking about working on their minimum wage. The governors who fucked up their state already and need to go trying to fuck up their environment. Right. So he's going to another state wants to talk about the minimum wage. So he's going to work on their, he's governing, he's going to help govern. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. All right. I know. We not only expand and Medicaid, but we have, we've only stayed in America providing universal care regardless of previous conditionability to pay and your immigration status. I know how offensive that is to people and I get how controversial that is. We do. Yeah. So he, well, first off, all they do is they go, that's not happening. And then at some point they go, yeah, it's happening, but it's barely happening. It's all anything to do with the legals. Everything to do with the legals goes from, they're not voting or they're not being taken into the consensus or they're not getting Medicare or they're not getting issued IDs or like, it all goes from, it's not happening. Oh, by the way, they're contributing to the economy, not taking from the economy and they're not murdering anybody and they're not doing anything illegal. So it always goes from, this isn't happening to, yeah, it's happening, but barely to, yeah, it's happening a lot, but that's a good thing, which is a weird way to do it. So it'd be like me going, you know, like if your daughter woke up, she's covered with mosquito bites and she goes, there's mosquitoes in this house, you know, there's no mosquitoes in this house and then she go, I'm covered with mosquito bites and you go, there's maybe one, more one or two, but there's not, it's not really a thing. I mean, maybe there's some mosquitoes in, but not really. And then at some point that then turns into, it's a good thing. Mosquitoes are good. So it went from, there's no mosquitoes to, there's only a couple mosquitoes. You shouldn't be complaining. It's not a problem to, there's lots of mosquitoes and that's the way we like it. Well, you got to pick an argument. Yeah. It's what I'm saying. Yeah. It's terms of mosquitoes go. It's easy into the argument is what it is. Right. So he's giving taxpayer money to illegals because that's his constituency is illegals. Mm hmm. Well, luckily, Paulie Market on X tweeted this out the other day saying Gavin Newsom's 2028 presidential odds collapse to an all time low as he's laying groundwork for a potential White House run. A 7% chance is what he has right now. I got a new name for him that I hope catches on because when he talks, he's having a hands are all all over the place now. I think I want to call him spaz hands because there's jazz hands, but he's not that fluid. He's spastic, but he's moving and I think spaz hands would work, would work for him. Maybe I'll get it, I'll get the word over to Trump. Yeah. For sure. Karen Bass saying that it is not her responsibility for streets being in despair. He's cut street service by 61 million between 2023 and 2025. That is led to the despair and that potholes are not her fault. Mm hmm. The desperate attention, right? Potholes to start. That's right. Right. And by the way, we have a crumbling infrastructure in the city that has been crumbling for about three decades. Oh, yeah. And so by the way, can I say something crumbling infrastructure for three decades. Like saying, you know, in roofing, you know, roofing your grandpa knows roofing, in roofing parlance, you get a 30 year roof, you get a 20 year roof, you know, you get a 50 year roof. But if you go, I got a 30 year roof, but it's been crumbling for 30 years. Well, technically, yeah, the day it's put on, it starts its 30 year run. And every day you get closer to 30 years as a day. It's not going to be good for, but you can't start infrastructure crumbling. Yeah. You can't be crumbling for 30 years. It was good 30 years ago. And now it's crumbling. Yeah. When you got five years left on that 30, that's when you start looking at possibly getting things up. Right. And when people do this thing where it's like the new argument for everyone who ruined L.A. is it like, hey, I didn't ruin it. It was already ruined. Like, okay, so we should give you another four years of attempting to fix something that you had no ability to fix. Like when they go back, it's always, here's where you know it's going bad. It always goes bad when they start talking about national, you know, when they go, L.A. has got a pretty bad homeless problem. You know, nationally, we got a bad, when you go nationally, that's bad. And by the way, when you're out of problems, it's when they start going to Africa. They go, you know, AIDS affects so many, oh, okay, so we're done with AIDS. If you're getting to Africa, then we got no AIDS problems anymore. All right. So it's always been crumbling, yeah. And she's not, but what's the plan? Bling, infrastructure in the city that has been crumbling for about three decades. And so, believe it or not, those potholes did not come and those sidewalks did not break because I'm there. You mean it's not your fault? No. I promise. Yeah. They didn't get fixed because you're mayor. Nothing got fixed. You didn't do anything. You didn't even tell me. That's a weird attempt to stop it. It's, I don't think, you know, you know what this argument is. It's that same argument I was yell about when they go, illegal, don't kill as many Americans as Americans. Yeah. I know. Okay. Maybe they don't, but they're still killing Americans. Still a lot. I want to do something about this. Okay. The money, infrastructure is falling apart, it's Los Angeles, it's potholes and sidewalks, and you're laughing about it because it started before you. But you're the mayor who can do things or it's supposed, ostensibly supposed to be able to do stuff. Yeah. At least you had to level it off a little bit. Your campaign slogan can't be, it was that way before I got here because that's, by the way, that is, that is the, it's, it's, it's the politician version of my dog ate my homework. Like that means you're just done a shit job. You just done nothing. Like things, you're basically going, things were fucked up. Then I got here and they're still fucked up and now I need four more years. I don't know what your argument is. Your argument is an argument against you because you didn't fix whatever needed fixing. All right. We have disparagement and crumbling, Nicolas Cage's neighbors are being evacuated from their homes over the massive sinkhole that swallowed up the actor's driveway. After the crater was discovered outside the actor's $10.5 million beachfront mansion in Malibu, California. That was his place. Yeah. So the city issued an emergency order of imminent danger for sea level drive residents. Where the hell was that? Is that, that must not be too far from you? It's got to be further down closer to like pepper dine or something. I don't know. We can, we can look at it. But that's a big ass sinkhole. And that's the front, is it on PCH Andrew? I have to look now. So this says, it's weird that they put this in the, in the report, but it says sea level drive. So I don't know if that's off of PCH. Yeah. Up in the hill or something. Something like that. That's the front for sure, because there's a water right there underneath it. Yeah. Wow. That's true. Sinkhole took it out. Man. Oh, we're going to have to get some engineering to get that shit back together. Well, it should be up in about what, two, three days, four days maybe, at least get the permits and you know, yeah, yeah, I know, yeah, this time next week. Yeah. Yeah. Is it, he's playing John Madden in a movie. Yeah. But I don't think that movie's coming to theaters now, somebody, somebody told me. Just direct a prime or something? Yeah. Is this, where is this must be way down PCH, like head and down toward zoom or a county line or something, something of that, something of that nature. Cool place. Looks nice. Yeah. I watched a ton of Monday Night Football, Howard Cosell, Ira, Monday Night Football. the best. Oh, I got so many things. So much to say. So much to say, everyone's just got to watch that stuff. Yeah. All right. We got time for half a story. Have a story. Well, a little bit further up the road from Nicholas Cage. The Santa Monica promenade is now empty storefronts with no customers. 80% of local residents don't feel safe shopping there anymore. A 2024 business survey by the Santa Monica Coalition found 90% of ground floor retailers reported walk-in theft with 72% saying it happened almost daily. All right. I do have a clip, by the way. Yeah. I mean, look, people are just sort of creatures who will sort of go where the winds take that. And if you have a bunch of fucking hobos walking in and a bunch of thugs ripping shit off, then they'll just go do business somewhere else. It's pretty basic stuff. I don't, I don't get why people don't understand that. Oh, play the clip. Sorry. If I have a second here. What is happening down here in Santa Monica? This is a busy shopping area. And I'm seeing all the stores are closed. 80% of the local residents don't feel safe shopping here anymore. They go elsewhere. The beauty of this small and the promenade were the boutique home made type stores and a few national and regional retailers. Those have left because of the daytime theft. All right. I don't know. I feel like, you know, as a citizen, you pay your taxes, you pay your utilities, you employ people and whatever. And then the government protects you so you can do business. And in LA, they just let that part of it go. The businesses are just on their own. They'll tough it out. And then they'll leave. And I don't know what you expect from them. But you know, when Burger King, sorry, when in and out burger left Oakland, they're gone because they can't do business there. I don't, what is difficult about this? I don't, I don't, it's all real basic normal stuff. Anyway, fuck off, Santa Monica. You're the tip of the spear for the shit show that is California. All right. Santa and I'll be the Jordan family class of cars. That will be with the Leno coming up this Sunday. And then flappers after that, you can go down crawler.com for all the live shows. What do you got, Rudy? The 18th coming up this Friday. I'll be in Columbia, Missouri. And then center view, Missouri on the 19th. Go to Rudy Povitch comedy.com. She'll be some great shows. So until next time, I'm gonna crawl for Rudy Povitch and Tony Tucker. Say it, Mahala. Leave us a voice mail at 888-641-744 and get to get to see the Ace Man at AdamCarola.com Hey, it's Kayle. 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Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. Tonya Tucker credits her father’s early belief in her talent and relentless support as the foundation of her music career, starting from age nine in Arizona.
  2. She was discovered by Billy Cheryl after a demo performance, leading to a recording session that resulted in a hit with the song "Delta Don," which became a defining moment in her career.
  3. Tonya reflects on the unique era of country music when personal connections and authenticity mattered more than polished production, and expresses admiration for legends like Dolly Parton and Merle Haggard for their integrity and impact.

Summary:

Tonya Tucker shares her journey from a young age in Arizona to becoming a country music legend, crediting her father’s unwavering faith and active involvement as the catalyst for her success. At just nine years old, she began singing with her father, who recognized her voice and talent and moved the family to pursue her dreams. A pivotal moment came when she recorded "Delta Don" after impressing Billy Cheryl, a record producer who saw potential in her raw demo.

Tonya reflects on the authenticity and spirit of country music in the past, contrasting it with today’s highly curated environment. She praises icons like Dolly Parton and Merle Haggard for their boldness and integrity, noting that few people have ever said negative things about them. She also shares personal anecdotes from her career, including opening for major artists like Leonard Skinner and a memorable performance at the 1980 Winter Olympics, where she used a speed skater’s jersey to create a unique moment that thrilled the audience.

Beyond music, Tonya speaks passionately about social issues, including the harmful impact of large transmission lines on rural Texas landowners, and her advocacy for preserving the historic Muni golf course. She emphasizes the fleeting nature of past eras—like Studio 54 or the pre-AIDS party culture—where spontaneity, authenticity, and freedom reigned. Tonya values connection, memory, and personal growth, believing that while success is real, the human experience—especially the relationships forged through music and shared experiences—is what truly endures.

Her story is one of resilience, mentorship, and a deep-rooted belief in the power of staying true to oneself.

FAQs

Her father recognized her talent at age nine and encouraged her to pursue music. He moved the family to Nevada, where he connected her with a music producer who later helped her record her first hit song, 'The Happy Girl in the Whole USA'.

Her father played a crucial role by believing in her talent and advocating for her. He also helped her connect with key industry figures like Billy Cheryl, who gave her a chance to record her first song.

Her first hit was 'The Happy Girl in the Whole USA'. She initially thought it wasn't her song, but after hearing a demo with a guitar and vocal, she recognized it as her own and recorded it the next day, leading to its release and success.

She deeply respects Dolly Parton as a pioneering artist and a great human being. She believes Dolly’s music and character set a powerful legacy, and she sees her as a role model for authenticity and strength.

She believes the old days—before widespread filming and social media—were more genuine and full of spontaneity. She feels today’s environment is highly regulated and less authentic, making it hard to replicate the excitement and freedom of the past.

She is actively protesting against the construction of 765-kilowatt transmission lines across ranches, which she says destroy land, water sources, and the quality of life for rural communities.

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