Tana VS Shane Dawson, Nicolandria BREAK UP + David Dobrik ENDINGS | Just Trish Ep. 297

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I'm like, "I have no idea." I pass by Dobrik's Pizza and it's like, "It makes no noise." I'm like. - I wish I could be more real like that. I'm so scared of getting canceled. I think back in the day. - How are you scared of getting canceled? You've gotten canceled like 18 times. I really want to know how you're so scared. ♪ Her name is Trish ♪ ♪ She's got the fish and all ♪ ♪ And got some filthy rich pretty in pink ♪ ♪ Hot topic queen ♪ ♪ And says what everybody thinks ♪ ♪ She's just Trish ♪ - Yay. - Hello guys. Welcome to the Just Trish podcast. It is a Hot Topics today. Oscar is still on assignment at Comic-Con and we miss him, we love him. He'll be back on Wednesday. But today we have an amazing guest co-host who's more than oomphies with Oscar. He was a colleague. We've met a bunch of times. He's great. He's all over TikTok. He is like pop culture phenomenon, smart, everything. He's everywhere. He's at every event. He's at every place. He is the influencer. He's my favorite influencer right now. And it's for Rye Bennett. - Oh my God, thank you. I'm so glad you remember that we've met before now. - Don't call me out right at the top of the show. - I walked in here. She goes, "Nice meeting you." I'm like, "Tricia, we've met like three times." - How come you never told me? 'Cause we like talked on TikTok. - I don't know why. I thought like you knew, but like, see that's what happens when you blow up. Everybody knows you now. - Same, like you're so popular. And I was like, I would remember you. You have such a big personality on TikTok. Like, you've always stood out in my mind. Every time we talk about you on Hot Topics, I'm like, "Do you know for Rye?" He's like, "Yes." And we're always like, "Oh my God, we know." But also Oscar too. I'm glad he's on TikTok. - Oscar like raised me. Are you kidding me? Like, literally. - You guys like work together so much and he's gotten you jobs and you've like worked together. You've gotten on the field together. Like, you guys are like close. - Yeah, we were. During COVID, I think I talked to Oscar like every single day 'cause I was like, COVID was just a hard time, girl. I was like locked in my house and I was working with all these crazy people and Oscar was like my safe space. - Wait, that is so crazy. So you guys started together at, 'cause I didn't know, and like I said, when Oscar comes back, we all have to do a Hot Topics together because we always talk about you and I'm always like, I always get my information for Rye 'cause you really do Hot Topics. If you guys don't know, he's on TikTok and he's doing Hot Topics like in real time. You're at the sinkhole in West Hollywood. Like, you are everywhere in real time. And I get all my information from you. Like, I know things are happening from you, so. - I'm your news source. - You're my news source. - Thank God, 'cause you told me you didn't know what Demois was like also two minutes ago. - Well, you said Demois is on Substack, which by the way, Rye is also on Substack. How do you get there? How do you find it? I don't even know what Substack is. - FryeBennett.substack.com and my Substack is Frye Unfiltered. Go there, watch this space. - Yes, I love that 'cause you're like, okay, Substack's everything and then you're like Demois is there. I knew Demois is like a website that people go to, but I thought it was like a person. I thought you were like, oh, he's on it. - Does anyone even care who Demois is? I feel like it was exposed and like nobody moved 'cause like-- - Did they, did they? Who was it, who was it? - It was a girl who Hailey Bieber was like trying to like, whodunit, she was like, who did Demois? And then it came out and I was like, oh, Hailey Bieber ruined it. So the fact that I found out that Hailey Bieber ruined it, I was like, well, I never wanna know who it is, so I'm not looking. - Oh, so you didn't care. So you're like, all right. - I was like, uh, no, who cares? - Well, check out Demois on Substack too, I guess. I don't know, but. So you, you work together 'cause, okay, so you also went to school for journalism, which I always say this to people, I'm like, oh my God, you went to college and completed four years. That's like the most impressive thing ever. You went to school for journalism and like boots on the ground and all that stuff like that, but also like the obsession with pop culture and just know every little thing about everything. So you guys worked at Access together. - Yeah, he worked there before me. I was a talent assistant, he was on the digital team and I was like very fresh living in LA. I think like I moved to LA literally a week before I started that job. - Wow, that's amazing. - Yeah, and then I would always talk to him about, God, what was that celebrity? I was like, this celebrity is so, it must've been a K-pop group or something of the sort that he was obsessed with. - We love K-pop over here. - But he like hated me for like, probably like maybe five days. And then we were like friends. - Wait, really? Oh, that's so funny. And then how'd you guys become friends? What was the switch? You said something about K-pop and then it was like? - I was always like hanging out with the digital team. I thought what they were doing was so fun. Like I did not care what was going on with George Clooney or any of that. Kylie Jenner was hiding her pregnancy at the time. It was so boring. I'm like, girl, just tell everyone that you're having stormy. It was 2017, girl. - That's a period, a time capsule, yeah. - It was a time, a lot happened that year with Tristan and Khloe and Kylie and the baby. - How you remember all that is crazy. - Oh no, 2017 was a crazy time. - Oh, and then, oh, Me Too was a Matt Lauer year, so I. - Was that just 2017, the Me Too? - Yes, and I remember because when I worked at Access, they would make me log what happened on the Today Show every day. I was never more informed of the world. Someone would tell me something that was going on in Afghanistan that was completely wrong. I'd be like, actually, that is not what Savannah Guthrie said. - Oh, wow. - So when the Me Too thing happened, Matt Lauer, because Access was owned by NBC. So like you would see all the Today Show posters. I used to get e-news notifications. RIP to that startup girl. - I know, so sad. - I know, but we loved them. I was on the rundown one time. Anyway. - Did you ever host on E? - I hosted the rundown, yeah, for like three episodes. - Oh, that's everything, oh my gosh. - Back in like 2022, oh my God. And then People Magazine got so mad at me about it. Oh my God, I will never live it down. - Wait, why did they get mad at you? What's the tea? - Because I love, I'll tell the story now. Because basically what happened was, is that I was in between, I'd gotten laid off from E.T. And then in between, I was like interviewing at people, but like e-news like offered me the rundown. So I got the rundown thing first, then I got the job at People. But it was, when I was doing it was coinciding with like when I was starting. So I just kind of played stupid and I was like, oh, I had no idea that this was like a rule. But technically if you really look at the fine print, there really is no set rule. - What's the rule, what was the rule they said? - That you can't like do anything with other outlets. But like technically it wasn't really like written like that. Like it was like, it's not even a real rule. It's like something they decided to make up then and there. So that's a whole nother story for another day. - Yeah, you're like, you didn't give me that exclusivity pay or anything like that. - Yeah, no, it's like, what are you talking about? So I just, so I went and did it and everyone hated me for like the first like six months. - I don't even get those two like mixed up and we love both. I love people on RIP E! News, but like they're kind of like so separate to me. Like they're not even like same. - I don't even like read news articles. Like I do if I want to know accurate information, obviously, 'cause journalist, right? - Yes, yes. - But I want an opinion. So these days I'm on the dark web. I go, Trisha Paytas, hemorrhoids, Reddit. Like what does everybody think? - Oh, E! News did post, they did, they had that one, yes. They had that headline about the hemorrhoids, yes. - Are you doing better? - I'm doing better. I was still on pain medications and my husband was like, oh, you're still on it? And I was like, yeah, I was like, I honestly was like the most painful thing ever. Like I was, it was crazy. It was during Mercury retrograde though. - What is, oh, you're so right. What is a hemorrhoid? - Ooh, that is a great question. I- - I'm gay and I feel like I'm supposed to like know that. - Never had a hemorrhoid. - No, never. - Wow, that's impressive. 'Cause all my gay friends are the ones- - Well, I'm like 15. Why would I have a hemorrhoid? - That's true, that's true, that's true. All my gay friends put me onto like the witch hazel pads. They're all like, oh, you know, you know what I mean? - Is that what you have on your shoulder right now? - This is, that hemorrhoid on my arm? - I was like, what happened to you? - I knew it. I was like, I don't, I asked myself, I'm like, should I take this off? It looks a little distracting. He's like, no, no, no. It's like fine. It looks worse than it is. - This is your home, diva. I want you to feel comfortable. I'm like, we're out here and- - Just my hemorrhoid on my. - You've ever heard of it? - We are far. Thank you for making the trek. We are very far out here. No, I had a, that was a cyst. I was Mercury retrograde and everything was like coming off of me. And they had to like drain it last week. It was like this whole thing. - Oh, I hate that. I've had a cyst on my face and I made my girl drain it. - Wait, really? Was it painful? - Yes, I hate needles, but it was on my face. So I was like, girl, just hold your breath and hope for the best. - What's a cyst? Okay, so hemorrhoid is something on, usually it's internal. It can be in your anus or outside of it. - Yeah, so I've heard. - And mine was outside. That's crazy you've never, I've had so many. So it's crazy I've never had one. - I know. - And it's like wild. - I'm so ran through I'm surprised I haven't. - Okay. - Everyone is like, we all know each other, we're all friends. - Yes, we are. And everyone has hemorrhoids and it's totally fine. It's actually very natural to have a hemorrhoid is what I found out. But I think it's like, I think it's a popped blood vessel, I think, right? Inflamed blood vessel. You've had a hemorrhoid. We've talked about this, blood vessels that pop out. - So you're the culprit of this hemorrhoid? - No. No, it was from pregnancy. 'Cause I was constipated. So if you push a lot too, obviously you can get it from like butt stuff. - Do you get really constipated? - During pregnancy I did. It was like a rock. Anyways. - How many children do you have again? - I have three out of three. - You have a gaggle of kids now. - I have a gaggle. - By the way, I knew you when you gave me this shirt. - Oh my, okay. - You tossed me this shirt outside of your pink G-wagon and said, "Oh my God, here, did I toss it?" Okay, so this is another lore that I didn't know, which is so crazy. But 2019, if you know anything, I'm out of my mind. So the fact that we met in 2019, especially during this time, 'cause I remember so specifically it was July and July was like after another mental hospital. - Yeah, it was July. You're right, yeah. - I remember it so much. - So you were with Oscar at my Heartbreak Tour rehearsal, which is so- - I know. And I met you briefly at AXS, but I get why you didn't remember me there. 'Cause I was just like, I was like nothing. - Yeah, no, no, that's, the AXS was such a whirlwind too, but this was like the Heartbreak Tour. So you came with Oscar. It was so weird 'cause it was for ET, shout out ET. And I remember they were like, "Oh, do you want us to like film your rehearsal of the tour?" And no one gave a about me in 2019. This is after I left "Vlog Squad" and like no one cared. So I was like, "Well, someone cares." So shout out Oscar and Farai for coming. - Oh, I was so there. I was so there. - So what did you do? - I had to take notes of like everything you were doing and like what you were saying and like that questions. I was like, I would like log the interview. of what he was doing. - Wait, that is so-- - I was doing like a shoot report. - And how does something like that come about? Because obviously, I don't think ET's like, "We need to go to Trisha Paytas' rehearsal "for like 50 people." - They had the app at the time, and they were really trying to make the app happen, and they wanted it, it was all really digital star focused at the time. - Oh, I see. - So I think you were like a huge get. Like-- - I don't know why, 'cause my Nintendo's like-- - They were doing a "Vlog Squad" home shoot like two weeks later, and I went to that, and I was like, "This is the "Vlog Squad" house, "so it's kind of, I don't know, it's a little--" - Which one did you go to? What was it? What was the "Vlog Squad" home shoot? Do you remember? - Uh, it was like with David-- - Oh, I know what house you're talking about. So it was kind of just like a restaurant-- - It was like, "Oh, not this dated community we're at, babe." I was like, "Damn." I was like-- - What was the story? - They had the nerve to kick you out of there. Like, where are they now, by the way? Someone was like, "Friars, where's the "Vlog Squad"?" I'm like, "I have no idea. "I passed by Dobrik's Pizza, and it's like, "it makes no noise." - Oh my God, do you ever see that? So you don't go to the parties, 'cause he had a big one this weekend, and you see the influencers. It's funny, the influencers-- - I had to ask someone if David Dobrik was still alive. I swear to God, I was like, "Guys, is he--" - Isn't it crazy? - And my friend Sophie, she goes, "No, he's just on Snapchat." - If you're on Snapchat, he's lit over there. It's really popping. 'Cause influencers just don't post. I saw some influencers. I did a little side-eye. I saw some influencers there, and I'm like, "They just don't post about it." They still go to the parties and stuff like that, but they don't-- - Wait, this weekend? - There was a big rager. - Was it after the drink update party that everyone just went over there? - Did you not go to that? Yeah, so David's was Carl's Jr. and Snoop Dogg. That was at his birthday party. - Okay. - Okay. - Okay. - Yeah. I don't know, he gets performers. That's his thing. He gets big performers to go. And then the update party was, I think, the same night. I'm surprised you weren't at the update party. - Kim, we have no beef. I love you, girl. - Update, update, yes. - Wait, is it good? - Yes, I have a new one. - I've never tried it. - We have a blue one. I can go to the blue one in the thing. - Yes, you have never had it? - No, I wanna get, is it even available in stores? She never told me where to buy it. - Walmart, Walmart. It's only available at Walmart. - Oh, I don't go there. - Wait, what do you mean, Walmart? - I don't do Walmart. - What do you do? - I just go to Whole Foods. - Go to the one here, wait, but how are you gonna get deodorant and diapers at Whole Foods? Well, I guess you could. - Oh, I go to CVS. I have a CVS Care Pass. - CVS is expensive. - But if you have the Care Pass, it's not. - Wait, what do you mean? You get a discount? - You pay $5 for this Care Pass and it's attached to your phone number and every month they'll give you $10 off, but I think you can, but then there's other deals. - It's still so expensive. - No, but if you get the other coupons and stuff and you apply them all, then you can get a lot off. And sometimes, if you don't go for a couple months, sometimes they expire, but one time I didn't go for two months and I went and got all my necessities and I only paid 19 bucks. - That's crazy, 'cause I went and it was $100 and I got deodorant, soap, and some tampons. - Getting necessity is so annoying. It's like getting gas annoying. - Gas is the craziest. That's why I was appreciative that you came, 'cause I always offer a top, and you're like, "Oh, I drive." And I was like, "Okay, love that, it's still expensive." Yes, tell me. - I went on my friend's podcast like a year ago. I was like, "Are you still gonna send me a black car, "or are you gonna, I have a rider. "Where's my Dom, where's all of it?" And then, so it was like a joke, obviously. - Oh, I was like, "No, but you should." That's like Podcast 101, 'cause a lot of times podcasts, it's Fars, it's all stuff like that. That's like 101, is you could get a car for someone if you need to. - Wait, say Sierra, that's podcast rule number one. - Want me to Sierra your friend? Maybe she was just like, "Oh, this is my friend." She was calling me a car, and she's like, "Well, of course, Trisha Paytas is gonna call you a car." - I just feel like I don't wanna be that person, 'cause you're coming to my house, you're so far, but Sierra sounds cool, we love Sierra. - No, I wanted to be humble. I was like, "No, I'm gonna drive." - I know, I love that. You're like, "I'll drive myself," which is rare, 'cause it is far, and gas is expensive. So it's like, I would take a car. Someone offers me a car to go into West Hollywood, I'm like, "Yeah, I'll take that car." - No, I was like, "This is my Kim K moment. "I'm gonna be on time. "Everyone's gonna remember." - I knew you were going to be, too, and that's why I told Moses. I think he's gonna be actually early, and that's because, again, you're so Oscar-coded, where you guys went to college, you have traditional media jobs. You can't be late, but influencer world, everyone's an hour late. You just expect it, so. - Oh, every time I interview Tiana Mongeau at ET, always late, and I love her down. - She's the best. - Always late. - Well, now she's in her sober era, and you know what, can I tell you? Same, the first time I did the podcast with her, it was four hours late. This was four years ago, but now we do "Not Loveline Together" once a week, on time every day. - Oh, last time she was early, she beat me. - Oh, I remember you guys were doing that together. Is that when you guys answer questions and stuff? - Yeah, it's a little relationship question. - Yeah, that reminds me of those, remember in the early 2000s where they do relief funds, and you get celebrities to call people? - Oh, the telethons? - Yeah, like those. That's what it reminds me of when I see that. - It is giving that, and shout out to Tiana for being, she's like, okay, so obviously we're different generations. I'm Millennial, she's very Gen Z, and I called it "Not Loveline," and she's probably like, "Wow, what the hell is this for a name?" Because there was a show called "Loveline" in the '90s with Adam Carolla and Dr. Drew. - Oh, cute. - And so it was supposed to be like that, but not, but no one gets it because I'm just old, and it was even old before me, so I think she was just like, "I don't know what this means," but that's where the "Not Loveline," but no one really gets it, but now we stuck with the name, you know what I mean? But she does, my point of that is she does show up on time. In fact, she beat us home last time, and I was like, "Damn, girl, you really are on time." She's in her new era. Do you see her out? She was at the update event. - I saw her at the Synergy Kombucha Halloween party, and I was like, "Do you remember when I went to your wedding?" And she's like, "You were there?" She's like, "You should come to my next one," because that one was just like, "I'm at the Hearth." - Same, she didn't remember Oscar was there either, so I think it was, but again, not sober Tana, you know what I mean? So I think she was very much- - That wedding was probably the best one I've ever been- - That was 2019, too. - It was, summer 2019 was crazy. I swear to God, I was- - You went from the Tana wedding to the Trish rehearsal to the Vlog Squad? - No, it was Trish, Trish, Vlog Squad, Tana. - Tana, she was the, she was epic. - I hit all the pins at once, and I was like, that was the wildest summer of my life. - That is crazy, so you've been in it for a minute, 'cause I really, I discovered you a couple years on TikTok, and I was like, "Oh my God, I love you, you're so funny," and then, obviously, I've been seeing you around everywhere now, and I was like, "Oh my God, it's so crazy," and then when you came with the Hot Break tour, I was like, "That's insane." How did you not get the invite, because you were everywhere this past week, I've seen you at all the events, how did you not get the invite to update? - I don't know, I really don't know. - I'm so, actually, I've never actually been upset, ever. I'm never jealous, never, 'cause I'm like, "You know what, I'm Trisha, I've done everything," did not get invited, I was so jealous, I was so mad. - I was a little jealous, but I'm honestly, I never get upset about that, really, either. - I don't either, but I was, a little. - I only get mad, I guess not mad, I shouldn't say that. - Mad is crazy, yeah, mads are crazy, me too. - I get annoyed if I don't get invited to a Bravo event, because that was a lot of my content at first, so I'm like, "Oh, I'm not invited," and I weasel my way into it, and it's like, "Oh." - And that's why I'm glad you're here for this, too, because you talked about, you did a rundown of hot topics that were bothering you last week, and I literally didn't know any of them, and I feel like I'm pretty tuned in, I'm pretty, but Bravo, I'm so tuned out of, and I know it's such a big fandom, and I want to be in it, because I'm like, "Wait, everybody loves the Housewives, "everybody loves--" - You need to be on "Real Housewives" if that really helps. - This is the one you think I should be on, of all, not "Summer House." I don't know what "Summer House" is, but you mentioned it, and I was like, "Should I be on that one?" - I would love to see you on "Summer House," but I don't think that works for you. - Okay, not me, okay, I don't know what it is. - I'll explain, you should be on "Real Housewives," 'cause I honestly think the ratings would go through the roof. - Yes, you came in, you're like, "You should be on 'Real Housewives,' "you might be the only one that's still married," and I was like, "Oh, that's so interesting." - I would die to see you have a conversation with Kyle Richards. - I, that's so funny. - Or Sutton, honestly. - Which one's Sutton, what'd she do? - Sutton is this girl, she was married to some billionaire who is from Atlanta or something like that, and she got this crazy alimony, I think she gets like 300 grand a month from this dude, - Oh my word. - And she found out she owns a baseball team and all this stuff, so she just casually lives in Bel Air, she has a clothing store, I think it's still open, but yeah, she's a little awkward, but-- - Oh, love that. - But she's kinda fun. - I love awkward, I'm awkward as a , so I love an awkward. - I think Erika Jayne would hate you 'cause you'd be totally stealing her vibe. - Okay, but Erika Jayne-- - But you'd be doing it better 'cause you have the funds to actually produce music and do music videos, and she used to have that. - Well, she used to. - Yeah, but then, you know, the husband. - But she's also in her 50s, so I am like, I'm like the Erika Jayne, yeah, back in, 'cause we shared a lot of dancers, a lot of the same glam, but then-- - Oh, you do? - Yeah, and so I was always like, my choreographer, Cedric, danced with her for so long, like we always shared a lot of the same dancers and stuff like that, and I loved what she did, and then that happened, so I'm always like, but you just never know where I'm gonna be in 50. You know, when I'm 50, I'm like, who knows where I'm gonna be, so I know that, but I saw her at a party, I was at a Pride event, and you're like, oh, I've never seen you at an event, I was just thinking of your house, and I'm like, I am at my house a lot, but I went to a Pride event at CAA, and she was there, she was like the guest DJ, and I was gonna walk past her, 'cause we were gonna leave, she came like later, we'd go early, and I was about to leave, and I'm like, I'm just gonna walk right past her, 'cause obviously everyone in the picture, I don't even think she knows me or cares about me, and she stopped me, and she was like, Trisha, like I love what you're doing, you're so great. - You're her inspo, babe. - Stop it, she was my inspo. - You're her inspo. - For the record, Erika Dayne was my inspo, I loved her so much, 'cause I loved that someone could just self-fund their pop star life, and that's what gave me the-- - Hope. - Gave me hope, gave me the courage to do it, I was like, you know what, period, and she had that Vegas residency. - Why don't you have a Vegas residency? - She gave me hope for it, I was like, damn, she could have it. - I don't think that's like, out of reach for you. - I would love, that'd be the dream, that'd be the dream, maybe if I get on Housewives, then I can get the fan base to get a Vegas residency. - Oh, and I also wanna see you interact with Amanda, Amanda's the new girl who everyone hates on-- - Wait, why do they hate her? - I think they hate her 'cause she's young, and she doesn't give a what they think. - How young, what's young? - She's like, late 30s, I wanna say. - I need to be on Housewives so I can be young, 'cause I'm 38, I feel, compared to you, compared to all these influencers, I'm like, damn, I feel so old, but I would be young on Housewives, 'cause I'm 38. - Yeah, no, so she, I think she's like 38. - Love that. - They all like, okay, so here's the thing, they all like, basically don't like that she flashes like, all this designer stuff she has, she's basically new money, 'cause she has this book called Rich as. - Okay. - And she, her whole thing is like, I manifest my money, I got it from manifesting, and she created like, this whole like, book to like, inspire people to manifest and get money. So everyone thinks her-- - Ooh, I love that. - Right. - Literally us, how do I do that? - But everyone thinks like, her like, business is nefarious because of that, and it's like, okay, and it's annoying, because I'm like, to live in LA is to know someone who does absolutely something so nefarious, and wondering how they have money. - Yes, yes, yeah. - That's just like, so like, sitting here pretending like you've never met someone like this is like, so annoying. - Oh, so they're like, but that's so crazy to me, because all of them, I mean like, Erika Jayne married Rich, so she had her money, so it's kind of weird to like, judge other people for how you like, get your money, right? You know what I mean? - Erika wasn't really the one judging. - Who was judging? Call it out. - Boze, Boze is on there. - And Boze is, did the Boze headphones? - Oh, no. - Who's Boze? - It's not funny though. Boze-- - 'Cause he's a Diwana, you're like, I'm like, trying to say who's Diwana. - No, that's so, Boze, the headphones. - Who did Boze? - Oh, Boze is like, this girl, she was like, the CEO of Uber, and like, a bunch of other companies oh and she was judgy and she was judgy but she created the own her own empire i guess i mean that's kind of well she was like she was c she sorry she was like a cmo like all these different companies for like short amounts of time marketing chief marketing officer oh so she didn't create uber no she didn't create it she was just like you know she had like a lot of high up positions and she'd go to the next and the next and then people kind of criticize her because they're like well why was she like at these businesses for such a short amount of time yeah but i guess if you but i my friend wants to be a cmo she's like on track to do that yeah and she told me that's like it's like normal to have like a short tenure being a cmo because you have an objective and then once the objective is over i guess you go on i could be wrong girl i don't do any of that now so what she she's on housewives now and then she got the show with jimmy fallon like right after what's that don't know got canceled but like you know she has like marketing objectives like she has aspirations she's getting married to this guy named keely is he rich to be determined don't know they're engaged got it i think he has money but like she has definitely has more money than him she she has like a vibe going for her but she was judgy to this new what's the new one amanda amanda okay so she was judging to her and how is she judging she was just like she was like amanda your business how do you have your return on investments like girl shut up all of you like when people ask that question it's like i don't know i just have money like why are you asking me what i don't know what that means like what do you mean that's the funniest thing about housewives i'll tell you all of them get their like pants in a tizzy about like how did you end up here like oh how are you one of us and it's like like or just about like their lives and their past they get so judgy about it but it's like yeah we all ended up on the same platform exactly we're all here trying to get something yeah we're all under andy cohen's neck like what are you talking about how you get cast that's what i didn't know how do you get cast on that show so he created bravo uh no i he started off as like someone who worked in um he like was like he helped like create like the development that's what he would do he would develop all the shows and he helped develop the franchise the first real housewives he developed yeah well someone else like developed it and then he was like on the team of it was a bunch of people but he was like one of the key people he's like the face now yeah and then like he would host the reunions and then like he got watch what happens live so that's kind of like how he did it but kind of like his journey so he doesn't like oversee the rest of the shows on bravo anymore he just oversees he just does executive produces housewives and so i gotta get with him yeah so he's kind of like uh not everything runs by him from what i understand it's like not a democracy at bravo but he has a say in like i see who stays and who goes nice i met him i did uh the live one where i'm a bartender i'm just like okay guys i don't want to be a bartender how have you not i don't know someone at bravo hates me no wait do you think andy does you know andy no he must i met him once and i did a show with him at bravo fan fest like love you because you're like no he does not love me it's because they don't he doesn't i don't think he knows me you think it's like maybe a little jealousy maybe no i don't think it's jealousy what do you think it is he has to know you if you're at the bra so you said your tiktok really kicked off because of scandal which is bravo yeah vanderpump rules okay but you know what 10 years ago you could have done vanderpump rules what is vanderpump rules it's that show about these servers that like drink and like and like just cause mess at lisa vanderpump's room so they all did it like ariana because i know that ariana did it yeah she was on it and jacks and britney jacks britney stassi okay so stassi was like the star of that and they're all bartenders bartenders and waitresses real at this restaurant or you think they casted him for the show i think jacks was definitely like he kind of worked there but yeah they all like worked there so they all worked there before the show even started this is like when they're young and hot yes now they're like a little older yeah and some of them took off and obviously most of them didn't who took off who was the biggest star besides ariana stassi now stassi why do i not know stassi stassi stassi baby stassi no no like what stassi is it i don't know stassi baby bravo is like a whole world that i want to 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like that in my house leave like i actually started the dad or the tom the tom you're in my house acting a fool i'm pushing you in the fireplace and i'm not on his side but it's like baby why like that was the one where i'm like okay crazy why is your boyfriend's father at my home but didn't he call the cops and say like oh i have domestic violence against me but you know what though like we're all pushing each other let's no one call because he did it too i should call it on you for pushing my dad this is a desperate self-defense please no one was near manslaughter like that was so crazy because okay this is the world i do want to know because i do know it's like so big i remember when sandoval happened and ariana max got to be on broadway and i was like what i want to do all this stuff like what that's why i need to be on a bravo show but i guess you have to be a little scandalous to be honest is jennifer tilly still on housewives she's not like an official housewife she's like a friend of i kind of get annoyed with jennifer tilly being on there i like her i think she's cool and fun and nice there's just too many kooky girls on beverly hills right now okay like too many kooks in the kitchen is there any is there anyone you like is there one that's like she's the best dory is kind of my girl dory got broken into her house got broken into i personally believe her husband 1000 set that up and she just is the only person who doesn't know but that's just me it was a little sus right i remember that all happening yeah but it like caused her ptsd i actually love dory though okay she's a cancer i vibe with her she's been on a while i've heard the name dory for so long her house is always in and out of foreclosure like usually it's days away from a foreclosure and then like she gets it out last minute yeah because i think her husband is being really financially abusive right now i think everyone's blaming her and like he's trying to put this like whole spending problem on her but really he's like being abusive about the finances i think and that and he like will save the house because they have two kids together and like he's just trying to force her to sell he's trying to force the sale and she just wants him to pay the bills and she has no idea what's going on with the money because he's nefarious as well and i think allegedly allegedly allegedly allegedly yes journalist see i'm in wendy williams is my icon allegedly i miss her oh my god i wish she was so long oh my god she's everything i know all these chairs were designed after wendy williams purple chair i honestly made it pink i was getting that vibe i was getting that vibe i felt that feeling when i walked in here so like tiny that little chair and you know with her little mints and her tea and yeah oh my god i love her she's like the best inspiration i know my everything i love her more than anything in the whole world you're kind of like the new you're like the white wendy williams i wish i could be more real like that i'm so scared of getting canceled i think back in the day how are you scared of getting canceled you've gotten canceled like 18 times i really want to know how you're so scared because i'm like people finally are like like me and i'm like you know what let me just be like nice to everyone you know what you ever mean to anyone though i feel like you just told like three people and that was that yeah i guess i'm a little i was a little wild a little unhinged a little i was a little problematic i suppose back in the day you were but that's a totally everyone has a problematic era that is true and i think it's okay to be like that but i think it's okay to be okay i think it's like i'm okay with people like not liking me because of my past i think some people like you know they have a problematic past and they're like i change everyone should like me and it's like i don't know but not everyone in this world is going to like you like i that's how i feel that's why don't miss corporate like yeah you have to like like everyone it's like i hate all these people like that's how i always felt i'm like i have to pretend to be nice to these people and then like and then one time i remember one of my bosses was like why don't you just tell this person how you feel it's like if i do that they're gonna go and tell you i'm gonna say something not nice and it's like you've seen my content were you sassy back in the day like when you worked at corporate or were you trying to keep it together i was a little bit of but i always like minded my business but then a hater would always come for me and i'd find out through the grapevine and then i would have to be a little nasty and i'm like oh no or like you know what i would do no i feel you sometimes someone would be nasty to me and i could tell they were trying to like get something out of me and i was like i'm just not in the mood for this so i would kind of like ignore them like i remember one time my boss was like you should apologize for this thing and i was like i think i don't owe them an apology and i'm just gonna never talk to them again yeah that's hard how do you hold it back though how do you hold it back i just it's code switching i'm black so i have to operate differently So I can't be like, I just have to kind of be like, I just like. What does that mean? How do you operate differently? I'm just like, okay, sorry you feel that way. Like, it has to be very nice nasty. Okay, okay, okay. It has to be very nice nasty. Okay, right. Because then, like, if I run it back, like, you can't really say I was rude. Right, right, right. I see what you mean. Yeah, I just had, like, an attitude. And it's like, and then I just move on because, like, I don't live at work. Yeah. Like, I'm just like, and some people. It's hard. They have nothing else to do. Yes. But then again, like, and then also I feel like. I was always pitted against other people. Like, I'm like, and I'm an only child, so I don't know competition. I can do competition if I care enough. But it's like, why am I competing with her? Like, we are different. Why would they pin you guys against each other? Like, what would be the reason? Um, I just feel like that's just how it is. Like, I'm just, I just feel like that's naturally how it is when you work in corporate. Like, there's always, like, a competition going on. And it's like, and also, specifically when I was at ET, everyone wanted to be on camera. And that was like, and I was out loud about my goal because I just feel like closed mouths don't count. It's very that, yes. And then I feel like there is competition. One time I had a boss tell me, she's like, oh, there's like a pecking order here. I'm like, okay. Oh, weird. And that was like, weird. Yeah, you're like. And I love the diva who told me that, like, no shade against her for that. Looking back, I was like, that was crazy to say to me. That was crazy because, like, you're there for a reason. Like, you're there to do a job. Yeah. And there was this idea that I, like, I wasn't talented enough. And I was like, okay, the buck stops here. Wait, how do you know? You heard, you felt that or someone said that to you? I just felt it. Wait, that's crazy. I always felt it. Like, I just wasn't like, I think in their eyes, like, and I would hear it. People would tell me, they'd be like, they don't think you're good enough. Wait, that's crazy. Because as soon as I saw you on TikTok, I was like, oh, my God, who is this person? He's so funny. And we, like, talked about you. That's when Oscar was like, oh, I know him. I was like, wait, that's so crazy. Like, it's so wild to me because you always have that, like, wow factor, that star power. Like, that's so wild that anybody would think that. But interesting that you said, because you're so, like, locked in. Like, I feel like now with Influencer World, do you feel like there's any competition when you meet other influencers? Um, I don't. I mean, like, I feel, I can tell when other influencers are competing with each other. But I try not to, like, compare myself because, like, I'm not, like, the biggest influencer in the world. Like, I'm not Alex Earl. But you are at every event. You were at, I will tell you another one. I was so jealous. I've actually never, like, I'm like you where I'm very much like, I'm 38. I've been around. I get great opportunities. I know you're going to say Desperate Housewives. How did you know? Because that's, like, your era. But I've rewatched Desperate Housewives 22 times, so that's no shade either. But I just knew you were going to say that. It is my era. You're not going to be mad at me for being at, like, Ozzy Christmas on Saturday. I don't even know what that is. But I think Ozzy Osbourne. I'm like, were you at Ozzy Osbourne Christmas? Like, I think that. But, like, I think, like, with Desperate Housewives. And I went back to your TikTok. I was scrolling. You had a paid partnership with Desperate Housewives. I did, yeah. And I have another one coming up. That should be me. I'm never, ever, ever jealous, ever. And I saw Alexis Oakley was also at the Desperate Housewives. Oh, yeah. I was hanging out there because her manager used to be my manager. Oh, my God. Beat the heat. Get your tickets today at Netflix.com. Chow's. This episode is brought to you by Nordstrom. The first pair of walking shoes for your one-year-old. You tell me what it is, I can bleep it. Who's her manager? Okay, work. I know. Once I got an agent that like changed everything. I feel like I only got one like two years ago and I was like, oh, this is everything. Oh, I love my agent. I told her I was doing this and she was like, you better go over there. Oh, I wondered how does that work with, because some agents, you know what I do? This is why we don't book guests a lot or like guest hosts or anything like that. It's because I'll be like, hey, do you want to be on the podcast? Like, yes, here's my like manager's number. Oh, my God. So now I'm dealing with like a manager. And it's like, it's fine. I get it because I can be that way too. But it's like, if I'm directly reaching out, like you can directly communicate back. I was going to do a whole rant about it. I'm like, let me not because the person's going to know who I was talking about. But I hate when people I'm like kind of like friendly with. And I don't even know you. So if you gave me your manager, it'd be fine. I would talk to them. But like people I'm friendly with, they're like, oh, here's my manager. They'll like work something. I was like, no. You know what's so funny? If I was doing Therapist, I'd be like, yeah, talk to my agent. Oh, interesting. But we know each other. We're different. We're like friends, you know, but you didn't know we were friends. So I was like, oh, let me just be cool about it. Yeah, you were communicating directly. By the way, the reason why I'm even here is because I hired an Etsy witch recently. Stop it. Are they still around? I thought they eliminated the Etsy witches. Well, she's not really Etsy. I found her through my friend who talked about it on TikTok. She used to date one of my friends. But her and I are so cool. So I saw she talked about it on TikTok. And I texted her. I was like, who's your like witch? And so I did like a career growth like spell. And like literally two days later, you were like, are you available? And I was like, oh. And then she emailed me the next day saying like, hey, Fry, your spell's been cast. I was like, oh, the Etsy witch got Frisian Bates to knock to me. That is crazy. No, I've always wanted to do it. I've always been like, oh, my God, do you want to do it on the podcast? And I always did. And it just, yeah, it was crazy because it like worked out. I was like so excited. I was like, oh, my gosh, you're like, because you're just so smart. When we do like hot topics, I know about like the hot topics I know about, which is like Shane Dawson or something like that. But I love the ones that are outside my realm. Is he alive still too? Have you not heard his hot topic? His hot topic was. Does he do hot topics? No. Does anyone care what Shane Dawson has to say in the year 2020? Not only us. I think we're the only people talking about him. And everyone's like, well, you're just talking about Shane. I think there was something where Tana did the Netflix documentary. You know, the Netflix documentary trend where you like sit down. Oh, I didn't. Oh, that trend. Getting ready to do a documentary about whatever. And she did one with Trevi and getting ready to do a documentary about us being in a Shane Dawson videos. And then Morgan Adams. You know who this is? Are you in this world? I know Morgan Adams, actually, because she is friends with my friend Lindsay. We were at the same wedding together. And I. Oh, yeah. What wedding? Can you tell me or no? Yeah, I can tell you. We were in Hawaii. For this girl who I was friends with from college. We're still friends. Oh, and Morgan was there. Yeah, and Morgan was there. That's so random. So then Morgan commented. And she was like, oh. She's like, well, you. He was your dad. Basically saying like you thought he was cool when he was like helping you out. But now you want to like turn against him, basically. And she's like, if he if you can grow, like, why can't you give him the chance to grow? So everyone is like, oh, my God. Morgan clap back. And people's like argument to that was like, well, Tana was like 18 and Shane was like 28. And they're like, she's on you and stuff. You know, a little bit of an age gap. Yeah. So I think that was like the whole thing. My whole thing was like I was just I saw the comment back and I was like, that's what I was saying earlier, too, is like if you did something that like hurt someone, right, you don't ever get to like be like, oh, just get over it. Like they can talk about it for as much as they want. Like if I've hurt somebody and even if I've apologized, it's like they're allowed to still like be mad at me forever or like groups of people who think I was problematic. Like I'm like, you can still be mad at me. I'm never going to clap back and be like, I've grown. So just like move on from it. You seem like someone who like gets over things quickly. What's your sign? I'm a Taurus. OK, love that. I have a lot of Taurus friends. It's funny. I guess. No, I get over things quickly, but then I can I can also hold things on. But I have learned to let it go at my older age. Well, you have like children and like a life and like a home. Can I say that part? I think once I've been I used to not have a life. So when I was like really angry and like yelling at people on the Internet, like I like I had no life. Like I mean, that's just what it was. I would be on all hours of the night just being like, you're the worst. OK, I mean, I don't know if I saw her. She was posing like a million. I don't know if she is. I hope so. I hope so, too. I do wish her the best. Yes, I feel. YouTube just like died, babe. I was like. It did. Why do you think that? Were you ever into YouTube? I was. I was like I watched Shane Dawson videos in like high school. I remember when he did. What was that character he would do? Shanaynay. Shanaynay. That was like a little problematic. His characters were a little problematic. And then he did the Degrassi reboots that were so great. I know. I've never seen that. I've never even seen Degrassi. And I know that's my generation, too. But I've never seen Degrassi. Oh, my God. Degrassi taught me everything I needed to know. Oh, you loved it. You were a Degrassi person. Oh, yeah. That's how I discovered Drake. I'm not like these other girls who heard Drake on the radio one day. Like, I was like, oh, that's Aubrey Graham. And do you still love Aubrey Graham? Yes. I'm sorry. I do love Drake. You love Drake. Okay. Love Drake. Okay. I was never on Kendrick's side. You know why? I'll tell you why. I don't even know. Because the allegations were all like woman beating allegations. Oh, my God. Who had them? Kendrick. Drake accused Kendrick of woman beating. Oh, my God. Kendrick accused Drake of like. What? And we were all having like a bad person off. And somehow Kendrick won this war. And it was like, wait, but what do you mean? But everyone had bad allegations. This is the rap game. Are you a Drake defender? I'm not a defender. Being a Drake fan is knowing that he's unserious and corny and he will embarrass you. Yeah. And you just got to know that. Swifties could really learn from that. Don't talk about the Swifties. The Swifties could learn from that. Because the Swifties will never admit to you that the wedding was tacky. And no shade. And they can't even tell you that it's tacky. They can't even say like, love my diva, but this was really off. They can never admit it. Are you a Swiftie? No. Oh, no. I was at this really nice wedding in Brazil. And everyone's like, are you a Taylor Swift wedding? And I was like, nah, this wedding has class. No. Well, we didn't see pictures. Did you see any pictures? Maybe it was classy inside. I hope so. OK. With all the money in the world. And I love Taylor. I actually, people think I hate Taylor Swift. I don't. Do people think that? I never knew that. Oh, no. I just don't think Taylor Swift music has been good in the last like three years. Maybe it's why you and Oscar are not close anymore. Because we got Swiftie number one over here. Oh, I was hating Swiftie behavior way back when. But the one thing I admire about Taylor Swift. I think you guys aren't close. They're still close. They talk to each other. He's always like, oh, I talk to him all the time. No. But like, I just don't like the Swiftie audience. But the one thing I love about Taylor Swift. They're intense. Like, me and Taylor have a lot in common. Like, she loves attention just as much as I do. Yeah. And I love, I respect it. Now, she just does it in this really tacky way. Well, yeah. I guess money doesn't always buy taste. I don't know if she's tacky or not. I don't really have a say in any of it. But, yeah. So you so do. I don't. Taylor Swift is the one person I don't really have an opinion either way and not that's definitely not shade either i just don't know it's like i don't i know there's people that like dislike her and there's people out there i don't get the love i don't get the obsession i don't get the hate either i'm like i don't really know who do you stand do you stand anyone besides yourself i don't know if i even stand myself who do i stand um maybe i don't stand anyone anymore britney spears i know i'm so millennial she does love lives down the street i've seen her at cvs actually i've seen her a couple times at cvs yeah is she doing good um yeah she's always like with some guys she always seems like she's like i think she's doing fine okay that's good i don't know i don't know but i love her um i don't really stand people i guess anymore i i don't know how about you who's your biggest stan i don't really stand people anymore either i don't think i ever well you know what when i was in eighth grade i was so obsessed with lauren conrad like what that's so random you cannot judge any taylor swifty fan because lauren conrad is so well lauren conrad was kind of my taylor swifty they're giving same energy where it's just like i don't get it they know i like went to her book signing and everything and what did you say to her i was like i i like totally like you know what yes i do like what is she doing she lives in you know what i actually ran into her like two years back in like 2022 randomly i was at three arch beach in laguna it's like it's like this private beach in laguna beach access through gate so i'm assuming she lives in the gated community but it's so funny i was on the beach and i saw this little boy and i was like so familiar and i think i've been creeping on her instagram like maybe days oh she's like recognized and i was like who's this little boy and i was like he looks familiar and then i look back and it's lauren conrad and her husband and they're just like chilling and like doing whatever no she was she was like i want to respect her privacy because she's not trying to be famous is she not out of the spotlight now she's well she did the laguna beach stuff and like she did the recommended press tour for that but she doesn't she posts like once a year i think this year she had to post like three times a year because she was doing that laguna beach thing wait why do you think they do that like you think they're just over the fame and they just don't want it anymore i think she's honestly so traumatized from like being famous in the like the late 2000s like you know she was famous during like the hills was during that like lindsey lohan like yeah when everyone is get when there was no uber and everyone's getting a dui baby so like yeah you're right and like you know like you know she had those fake sex tape rumors and i feel like it was just so chaotic that she stepped back and like i think if she's just promoting her clothing line or whatever she's doing that's what she's in the spotlight but like i just don't think she ever wanted to be super famous really so you think what do you have all the people from the hills who you think have done the best oh yeah they have like spidey what i think it's called oh okay i think kristin's doing the best because kristin's like out there but i would say lauren is like lauren and kristin are like the same i feel like lauren conrad still has an audience she still has her clothing line at kohl's does she really yeah um she's had it for over 10 years i don't i don't shop at kohl's i don't like i don't i can't wear lauren kohl's i've never i don't think i've ever walked inside of a kohl's not even going to school as a kid like i feel like kohl's is like the back no when i'm 20 years old i'm like i'm not going to school i'm not going to school i'm not going to off coupons i sent you in the mail like i love that no i grew up in a white neighborhood so i was going to like pac-sun and like oh and on the west coast too because i grew up in the midwest we were pretty white back there but we didn't have a pac-sun so maybe like a west coast had pac-sun yeah we were kohl's for sure like um tilly's that's where i would do my shopping oh that's so like west coast that's so like i shop a lot at like nordstrom macy's i guess i was like i worked at abercrombie i was an abercrombie was this when they had the bags with the hot guys on it with their abs and stuff like that yeah when i was a senior in high school i worked there for like two and a half years and i was like oh my god i love that they're kind of making a comeback remember they hated fat people and now they're back yeah they're like we have 16s now oh my god wait did you ever see the netflix documentary and they were like yeah they got mad at me she's like i was traumatized because they made fun of me for not wearing the jeans and me and all i'm still friends with a lot of people that i worked with at abercrombie because we were all really young and me and my friend were like okay that was like her trauma like girl it was social suicide if you didn't wear the jeans and also like but could she i couldn't even fit in them i did a whole video i had a crash out in like 2010 when he said they hated fat people and i was like well you're closer ugly anyways because i could not fit into him when i was a kid and i was so sad about it because they never went above a size like 10 i think yeah it was really bad back then yeah it was crazy i know i'm very sad did it yes i like it maybe it is trauma so where'd you have to go american eagle yeah no no i was going where did i go hold on wait justice lane bryant wait where lane bryant what's lane bryant oh my god if you don't even know lane bryant then you can't even talk to me about trauma because that is trauma that was basically across from the abercrombie there was like a mad tv do you remember mad tv there was a tv skit where it was the hot guys at abercrombie and then the lane bryant girls would come over and they're you're all over the place if you're at lane bryant like it's it's 16 and up basically so is that like mean girls the mean girls equivalent like tricears yes yes very much that it was very much that and it was like it was also for like older women so i had to go in there as a young child to have like a size 16 it was awful but you've always been good looking and fit so you don't even know the trauma of being you never know maybe i don't know i could have been obese i'm guessing not if you were i was like you were not my mom told me years ago she said when i was like a one or two i was getting a baby she hired this nigerian babysitter like nanny for me and then the doctor was like he's gaining all this weight and she knew it's because of the food that nanny was making so she fired was it good food or was it like those kelty bars from like mean girls i don't even remember it was like meals she was making like meals making just good food how old were you were two one two or three yeah yeah i'm also just okay three or four actually like baby fat and people just have baby fat by the way i can't believe you're a mother i was thinking about this about you the other day i'm like so like do you have like mom friends like what's your day-to-day like what time do you get up are you like strict like what do you do like what's your vibe i need a mom group i do need mom group i need to call like megan trainer or ashley tisdale or something like that oh my god you need to be in that you know there's an opening i know i thought about that too they were at the hillary duff concert mandy moore and i was like oh my god you have to be friends with them i don't know how i can't i don't think i can get in that group i know i know hillary duff is like the crime de la crime of the group like they really all look up to mandy moore and hillary oh for sure well probably because they're the famous ones at the group so that's probably there's other famous people in there actually i guess there's like a food influencer who's there who like some people it's a very diverse and megan trainer like oh is she in that i thought she was in the group yeah no ashley tisdale is the one who left oh by the way ashley tisdale was so in the wrong about that do you think a thousand percent wait why for for doing the article i think like okay i love when celebrities do opeds because you get more like insight into their personalities but like the moment she said she left the group chat when she sent the message being like this isn't for me and left the group chat i was like oh she's the problem oh my god and i remember when she was like oh and like uh someone sent me flowers because i felt bad and then like i said thank you they never responded i was like wait so what were they supposed to say thank you to your thank you oh right that that's true i guess the whole like details of it was a little weird and i was like think though because now she's a show based on a mom group a toxic mom dude do you think she was doing it for publicity wait she does yes on what streaming service i mean it's like hulu or apple or something like that it's like a big one we talked about it a couple weeks shut up i have to watch it's like green lit like yeah because you should be on the show no it's like a scripted and then i was like what if she did all that because like why would you do the article why would you do all this stuff like that to get the show or to like get her show going wait i don't know i maybe i feel like maybe that inspired her though because i was like months ago well i guess it was a series maybe you're right because the series takes a minute to get scripted and greenlit and all that stuff like that but do you think she's like excommunicated from the la mom groups of all because like if i was an la mom and she was writing about and i found out she was writing about hillary duff and like the cut i'd be like well i'm not inviting her to my kid's house i guess i guess yeah you're kind of like siding and i guess west millennials love hillary duff so i'm gonna side with hillary duff on that but i love ashley tisdale too i know i love her her and i think they had a play date after that i think they were like they were like photographed at nobu i'm like okay stunt queen you're right maybe it is as i'm saying i was like i think it all is a little too a little too i don't know but i do love hillary duff although she did go on there she was doing rounds and she was doing the podcast and i was really trying to get her on here and she went on i mean therapist is the one i know well you need to get on therapist um i have more plans for your career i think okay i love this i love what else what's housewives and then you promote being on housewives on therapist you think he's the it podcast right now like that's definitely uh yeah i would say so are you gonna go on it if jake shane dms you would you you know to be honest i would dm him back i'd be like yeah this is my number like alex earl jake shane they are kind of like the podcast i love that he's like a girl's gay i think it's so funny like there's this idea that just because you're gay you have to be friends with other gays and like you have to be loyal to that and it's like but other gays are mean so like hey that's like yeah that's not even a thing anymore i think most gays want to be friends with girls like it's very because it's like a lot of gay on gay hate out there you know every like most gays i know it's i think it is and that's like i know they need to i need to stop i feel like i feel like that's why jake shane does get a lot of hate because sometimes i think it is from like the outside right but i don't think he gives a like i'm with sofia richie like i'm not gonna hang out with you that's true he's like i got my girl that is so true i know tommy paul used to get a lot of hate too i remember when his show came out and everyone's the real gays that we know and all the gays were like we hate this i do hate that i hate that concept though i hate that concept though because like i don't know there's something about it that's like so like um gimmicky it's yeah it makes the gays look bad almost oh you okay i like i always wanted like a gay love island like i wish there was more like queer like shows people complain that there's no love on love island now if they made gay love island oh my god that would be everything that'd be like way better i feel you better hope everyone actually gets tested though like that's crazy it's the same thing though i feel like it would be a lot of sex i think they test people i think before they go on things i think they test people for std no i know they just they better triple dog check like sponsored by mr i mean that would be a great one oh my god speaking of this okay so the last event i was gonna go to was a mr one they had one at the abbey it was like kind of like the big one and it was kind of going why did i get invited to that forget drink update i always want to go to that because i'm like needy weeks was there i'm like wait and courtney b is there i'm like wait i should have bought it why is no one inviting me i'll tell you why probably because you were at the abbey and you're like look no one's here you're in an empty app it was before that was before that what happened where were like you were at the abbey and literally nobody was there you're like lisa rena effect look at the it was like a sunday like night like it was like but nobody was there no one was there that was - That's crazy. - I know. - What time was it? It looked like it was closing. Like it didn't even look like it. - It was like, it wasn't that late. I want to say it was like maybe six or seven. - There was not. - But I think Sunday Funday had just ended. I don't know. - It was empty. - It was empty. - I was like, how is that? - Oh, and I feel like a lot of people were at like San Diego Pride or not San Diego Pride. Some other, Palm Springs Pride. Like all the gays were doing something else. - And you were just there by yourself? - I was there with my friend who was in town. She loves, she's obsessed with Vanderpump Rules. So every time she's in town, she's like, let's go to Sur. And I'm like, oh, fine. - Now is Sur still around? - Yeah, it's still around. - Where is that? Is that still on, it's still on Robertson? - It's on Robertson, yeah. - But Pump is gone. - Oh yeah, Pump is like Roosterfish, which is like, I hate that it's there. It's like, they don't know what to do with that space. - Man, I loved Pump. I loved their lobster pasta. And then when we went during COVID, the lobster pasta was gone. And I was like, this is the end of Pump for me. - And then the car ran through Pump, remember? - What car? - I don't know. - Did someone crash into it? - Yeah, someone crashed into it. - You think it was like a hater? - You know what, there's conspiracies that Lisa Vanderpump plans her own restaurant attacks so she can get insurance money. - You think? - There's a conspiracy about it. - Allegedly a conspiracy, yeah. - She's had like seven fires at her restaurants that are like put out and like. - What about Tom Tom? Is that still going? - Tom Tom is still there, but the vibe is like kind of gone 'cause like the show's not around anymore. And then Tom and Tom are so like persona, like they're just so like not cool anymore. - So Vanderpump Rules is over? - Yeah, it's over. And now there's a show called The Valley. - I guess you could be on The Valley, but I wouldn't want you to be on The Valley. I would want you to be on Real Housewives 'cause it's more glam to be on Real Housewives. Being on The Valley is depressing. The Valley is like depressing. The Valley is great birth control. - The Valley is that I've watched The Men and I'm just like, oh, they're musty and dusty. I hate that show. I've just seen clips of it. I'm like, this show is like the worst. - No, you're like a fun, light, airy. Everyone on that show is like really miserable, except for the single people. - Yes, and that's the one that Britney's on for me. - Yeah, Britney's there. - She's the only one I really knew. And then I started watching the other ones and I'm like, oh my God, are these women okay? Like, it's just the men being awful. - You would put that show like back on the map though. - I could do it. I guess technically I live in The Valley. - No, you need to do Housewives. - Okay, okay. 'Cause The Housewives lives in The Valley too, like Kyle's in Encino. - Yeah, Kyle's in Encino. - Yeah. - Yeah. - One's in like Canoga Park or something too. I don't know which one. I'm like, oh, I kind of love that. They're like outside of Beverly Hills. - I know, like you all could eat at Stanley's or something. - Yeah, that'd be, Joey's, Woodland Hills. - I'm like, here we go. I would actually love, I mean, maybe I will. - You would be, honestly, people would die for you on Housewives. - Okay, I need to be on it. Okay, so I'll- - And at BravoCon, you could perform. They'd let you perform. - Oh, well that's, I would love to do that, first of all. That's what we were getting at, the BravoCon of it all. So you don't get, you said you don't get invited. - I know, I got invited to BravoCon this year. - But what Bravo event did you not get invited to that you're like, hey, what the hell? 'Cause you were like, I was side-eyeing them. - It's not that I don't get invited, but like I find out about it and then I have to like ask someone and I'm like, why couldn't they just remember me? - Oh, I see. Well, 'cause you are kind of like the Bravo influencer. Like you do know like Summer House, you know. - Right, you on Summer House would also be crazy. - What is Summer House again? You said that was the singles? - Summer House is basically the show, you have to live in New York to be on it, but they all go to the Hamptons every weekend and they like party and like whatever, and they all share rooms and you know, they like somewhat sleep with each other too, but like- - Oh yeah, maybe not the show for me. I wanna go on Love Island just because they get so many brand deals after they get off Love Island. Okay, you're 11. I'm 11 and stand two because you were just showing like a whole hot topic rundown. You were at a Nicolandria party recently, was that the one where you're Zac Efron? - Oh, that was the Synergy Kombucha party where I saw Tana. - Oh. Where was that? Where was that at? - It was like downtown, it was like a Halloween party and I went there and I voted for Nicolandria, I built Nicolandria brick by brick. - Really? You loved him from the beginning? You were like, okay. - I knew it was a slow burn. People would like to say they got together randomly, only haters say that, sorry. - Okay, so tell me. - And I met them, I had a video with them, I was like, I saw Alandra, I was like, Alandra, I voted for you, I told everyone in the streets to vote for Nicolandria. - And how was she? She was nice? - She was so nice, Nic was so nice. I took a video with them, I dropped my phone, literally five minutes after I took the video, I saved it as a draft in TikTok. My phone went to black, never turned back on. Never turned back on, it took me 24 hours to get a whole new phone. - And TikTok has that glitch, not a glitch, but they have that thing where it's like, if you get a new phone, it doesn't say it. - It won't do it, yeah. - So I was-- - Save it in the cloud or something. - I like, ah! - So wait, so you're like a Love Island stan, they just broke up, thoughts on it? - Please respect my privacy. - You were really sad. No, were you shocked? I don't watch it, but-- - Of course I was shocked. I'm the president of Nicolandria nation. - I don't doubt that people get together, they like each other, but obviously, you all go on that show for brand deals, you couple up knowing this is our brand for a year, and now after a year, they broke up, it's like, okay, well obviously that was for-- - But you know, I think they were in love. - No, you really think that? - They were in so much love. - I don't know, I shouldn't say anything, 'cause I know there's lots of fans out there, that I wanna get hate. - There's nothing but love and respect between them. They'll get back together like Tom and Zendaya did. - No, I think, outside perspective, and I don't know, I think she just blew up, 'cause obviously, I don't watch Love Island, don't know anyone from Love Island, the only person I knew was Orlandria, 'cause she was at Vanity Fair, and you're just like, oh my God, this girl really blew up overnight, gorgeous, everything like that, everyone loves her. So it's like, obviously, you have to have a little jealousy, 'cause he probably wanted that too, right? You go on Love Island, everybody wants to be famous, so he sees her blow up, and she blows up without him. - And she's more famous than him, yeah. 'Cause she has-- - I didn't even know he was a thing. I thought, for a while, I thought her name was Nicolandria, like I thought that was her name, and then someone's like, oh no, it's Nick and Orlandria, I was like, I only know Orlandria. - And Orlandria just goes by one name, she's very like Beyonce in that way. - Which, that's iconic, like you have to be at the superstar level to have that, so I'm sure you guys jealous. - It's one name or three names? - What's the three names, who has the three name? - Oh my God, Mary-Kate Olsen. - Okay, I love that that's the first one you think of. I see what you're saying, yeah, I'm like a boss, do you like Mary-Kate and Ashley? - Of course, those are my girls, I grew up with them, I had all the DVDs, I had it all. - The Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen fandom is very strange to me. - They've totally tried to run away from it, it's like, I saw It Takes Two, don't act like you, I know you're smoking cigarettes now, but don't act like you never filmed It Takes Two. - I mean, I don't know the lore of any of them, but I appreciate the fandom for it. - I feel like they'd like you too. - I don't know, millennials are so interesting, like I do see in so many millennial females, I just don't know if they're-- - Wait, do you have any secret celebrity fans who are celebrities? Who are fans of you? - Secret celebrity fans, no. I think if I did, they would be on here, I don't think I did. Chapel Rowan, for a minute, before she blew up, she used to talk about me in interviews, like Nylon Magazine, she'd be like, I'd have Malibu Barbie and Trisha Paytas be my opener, or something like that, or Halftime Show, and I was like, oh, that's cool, but then she blew up and got really big. She almost, we almost had her here back when she was really big, what was it, two years ago. We were so close, and what happened? I don't know, I think she just had to cancel it. - Maybe for the best. - I still love her, I'm still a fan, but yeah, maybe. - I like her, I just am like, can you please stop complaining? You're famous now, Sabrina Carpenter's not complaining, and you shouldn't either. - But do you think it's the same effect of Lauren Conrad, where they get really famous, and they didn't want to be that famous? They were like, I don't want to be this famous, you know what I mean? - She definitely should have been Slater famous, like, you perform at the Abbey. - Slater was here, I love Slater. - Oh, I love Slater, sorry, Coachella. - She's so iconic, and I feel like, there is a Slater famous, but I think she should be so famous. I think Slater should have her Czar Larson moment. - Slater wants what Chapel wants, what Chapel wants, what Slater wants, and we should just do a Freaky Friday. - Ooh, that would be everything, and Slater is so good. But then, do you ever worry then, that they become that super famous, and then they change a little? Because I don't think that people know what to expect when you get super famous. - I think, like, it's hard. I feel like this generation doesn't love fame the way we want it. Like, no one's built like us. - That's why I'm saying the millennials, especially my age, like the Hilary Duff's and all this, they're what, Lindsay Lohan's. - They wanted it. - They wanted the fame, they wanted to be seen at the clubs, everything like that, and I think Paris Hilton's like, that's what I'm talking about, Paris Hilton, too, is a good example, like, she loves the fame. And you're right, I think people-- - They just don't. Like, Olivia Rodrigo, like, does she want it? Like, she wants it, and she. Oh, actually, Justin Bieber's a great example. Justin Bieber's very good at pretending to love his fans, but he hates fame. - No, you think? - Oh, he's so good at pretending. - You think? Well, he's kind of everywhere now. He's kind of like at the World Cup, Coachella, he's kind of everywhere again. - Well, it's Christian propaganda. Like, yeah. - You think? - Oh, absolutely. - Who's pushing him, Jesus? - Yeah, honestly. - Who's pushing him, you think, that? - I think he's just like, you know, he's indoctrined by Hillsong, who knows? - What's Hillsong? - It's like this church that all the celebs go to. I remember him and Selena Gomez used to go when they were, like, being godly. - Oh, is it the one, like, is it kind of a bougie one, like, in Bel-Air or something like that? Is it that church or not? - I don't know if it's in Bel-Air. I thought it was in the Valley. I could be wrong. - Oh, okay. I know there was one with, like, giant screens that everybody was going to for a while. - And then there was, like, Church Home. - I don't know that one. - Church Home once. - Oh, you're so in tune with us. Okay, so, wait, why? Why did you, just 'cause? - Well, I heard that Justin Bieber would perform. - So, do you like Justin Bieber? - I like Purpose, anything before, like, Purpose. - Okay. - I love Purpose, but, like, anything before that, too. - I don't know what that is. But, okay, that's, like, his main album, his big album. It's, like, a thriller. ♪ What do you mean ♪ ♪ Oh ♪ - Oh, okay, that's a great song. - And then it's, like, he had that other song. ♪ Is it too late now to say sorry ♪ - Okay. - I should leave the singing to you. - Are you a singer? You sounded good. - No. - I thought that was pretty good. Did you go to Beaverchella? - I did, and I was so annoyed I stayed up for his set. It was so boring. - Wait, really? I didn't watch, but. - It was just really boring. - Oh, no, so you lost to Bieber Fever? - I was, like, really late to Neon Carnival, and I was, like-- - And that's the, but I heard that was kinda lame this year. I don't go to Coachella, but that looks-- - So, the thing about Neon Carnival, you have to get there kinda when it starts, and that's when you have, like, the maximum fun. - Yeah. - I always skip the Saturday person at Coachella, 'cause I'm, like, I don't really care that much. - Yeah. - Or, like, I remember Billie Eilish did it one year. I was, like, okay, well, I, like, love Billie Eilish, but I don't, like, need to see Billie Eilish. - Oh, I see, so you just like to go to the parties and to, like, hang out and be amongst the people. - Well, I like to see who I wanna see. Like, I really wanna see Addison Rae. I've been, I've been rooting for Addison Rae. - I love Addison too! - Love Addison Rae! - She's such a queen, love her so much. - Fame is a gun. - I think she was at David Dobrik's party, I think. Allegedly, I think I saw it. - That's okay. Addison's, like, our new birthday. - Okay, you're right. - We give her a pass. - You're right, you're right, okay, okay. - David Dobrik, to me, is, like, the Leonardo DiCaprio of Hollywood for this generation, because it's, like, everyone's always with him and partying with him at his secret after parties. - I would give another example, but I won't say it 'cause I don't wanna get sued. I would give a of R on YouTube, but we can bleep that. - Have you ran into David Dobrik in years? - Never, never. - Wait, remind me, like, what did you do to, like, upset these men who aren't famous anymore? Like, they should be sucking your , honestly. - Honestly? - And keep that in there, 'cause I mean it. I'm like, they're probably so mad that, like, you are going off. - Oh, God, messy. Messy hot topics. What was it? I, it was, oh, oh, well, I mean, this is, people hate when I talk, it's like, talk about not letting something go, me being like, I'm never letting it go. - But I'm asking you, so it's like. - Okay, I mean, TLDR, I learned that term from Oscar. TLDR is just, they made a lot, you know what it was? It came back to Tana, actually. They made a lot of inappropriate, inappropriate, inappropriate, inappropriate, inappropriate, jokes about Tana, who was very young at the time, who was like, 19 i was 29 and they both were making disgusting sexual jokes about tana and me like off cam no on cam which was even worse and it was 2019 post me too yes yes it was it was bad it was really bad and i was like the first time they did it that week i was like that's not cool delete it they kept it in oh sorry whatever then the second time so basically they kind of like got me out they're like okay no more filming with trish after that so then they went and did it again two days later with madison beer and tana and they're both young at the time i didn't i never blamed the girl i always stood by the girls i was like that's so gross they were being creepy and being like trying to again making sexual things and i was like so then i was like what the like why did you do it again and then they basically like said we'll get over it and i was like oh hell no so then i made a whole exposed video and i was just like well let me tell you about this this and this in the vlog squad this this and this and this and this and how awful you guys all are and i should have done it earlier i should have because people like why would you have like waited just until they pissed you off and i was like yeah i should have done it earlier but i was like dating somebody in that group and i was like trying to like i don't know you just think to go with it but that was they actually had her come over and i remember her being like uncomfortable i like pretended to sleep and her being uncomfortable like whatever and you know tana was like this is why i kind of like stand by tana still too and i always love tana i love tana she's a cancer so i feel like we also have like a sister vibe your birthday just happened happy birthday july 11th it was right before aquaman's birthday he was i went into labor july 11th and i had him at midnight yeah i had him at like 12 40 yeah so and oscar is july something july 14th yes yes i do love my little cancer babies there's a lot of cancers in my life that are there shane's a cancer as well i mean you know what i mean but with the whole thing with tana as like i do defend her because she's talking about the shane videos and it's she was young like she started to be an influencer at 15 people started collabing with her at 16 17 and yeah doing weird sexual stuff like peeing on me like shane is having 19 year old tana piano and it's like yes of course tana is like going along with it at the time because like what 18 year old isn't like you know she's trying to blow up yes of course so you kind of just go with it and you know whatever there's just stuff that happens so i always like will defend her because i'm like damn she really got put through like a lot of obviously like she knows she's been like done problematic stuff i've done it you know like people have done it it's like owning up to it and she only knows like who her icons are and like yeah and she and people say that and it's like it's fine to idolize but do you see where that the problem is is she idolized shane and then that happened and she still feels some type of way about it now at 28 years old and i think that's okay and i think that too and people love to come be like well trisha's problematic too and it's like yes i was and i'm okay with people still being mad at me for stuff that i did in my bed it's totally fine like it's fine it's like you you have to live with that forever so all the people trolling on the internet right now i always say be careful you will live with that forever because you can change your life you can change you can grow you can have kids and all that stuff like that and you can change as a person i'm sure shane has changed as a person i don't know i don't really watch his content i'm sure he's changed as a person but doesn't negate the fact that you also like affected people in a negative way and you just gotta like you just gotta take it you can't so i think for morgan to like i never tell my sister or anybody to like defend me i'm like you know what you just gotta take it i did some stupid back in the day and that's it you gotta like just own up to it forever right and like the people who are for you are for you yeah it's like you're not i hope you're not living to please anybody no no well maybe sometimes i don't know maybe not sometimes sometimes i i think now that i have like a a nice little like young younger fan base i try to like you know do better so they don't be like you know what i mean see a little art like i want them to be like she she i think because i was such a mess i think i was so messy like messy i was so unhappy i was so miserable that i want people to be like oh you can find happiness so i try really hard now for myself but also i want people to be like you can change you don't have to be a mess always you know what i mean but you're like a cute messy i think you have like the right kind of grown to you're the wendy williams messy where people are like it's endearing i think if it's me it's like she's a piece of i think if it's you it's like it's endearing people do like get mad like like whatever i have to say on what no because you're like literally reporting at a sinkhole from west endless summer escapes start here travel the worlds of netflix irl inspired by fan favorites like stranger things and squid game brave the upside down face off with the front man play leveled up arcade games shop exclusive merch and enjoy themed food and drinks beat the heat play eat and shop on repeat at netflix house at galleria dallas bring your crew and save get your tickets today at netflix.com slash house this episode is brought to you by nordstrom for 125 years nordstrom has been part of your story the stylist who found the perfect outfit for your big interview the first pair of walking shoes for your one-year-old the tomato soup you shared with your sister at the cafe these are the moments that make nordstrom nordstrom big or small we're here for all of it celebrating 125 years with new moments still add discover it all in nordstrom stores and at nordstrom.com i would which are you by you live i'm right by there i wasn't affected by the sinkhole but if well i was affected by like my walking my walkability my driving the dialogue cafe but like my car didn't drown like i didn't fall and slip in a sinkhole and by the water those people okay the two people fell in oh well the news should be reporting on that right did they not not really i mean i didn't see it anywhere all i saw were these two guys being like it's a tragic day on sunset oh my it was it was so scary i remember being like what the hell's happening because they drove from the ie to go to the supreme store that was like on the corner so they were like there's no parking the supreme store is closed you should be boots on the ground with like a microphone and like interviewing people well i let the news like interview me i was so pissed because i was coming back from like i walked to the equinox down the street so i was like so mad because like this news reporter came up to me he's like can you please interview you and i was like oh fine wait were you on the news i didn't even go to look i don't even okay i want to see what did they say what did they ask they were just like how has this affected you and i was and i said like oh my god i can't go to dialogue like did you say that oh my god were you trolling yeah i was i mean i really mean that like i mean like see like i'm so annoying like nothing really affected me like it was just kind of like oh i had to drive around go down san vicente like i my friend lives in laurel canyon and we always like have like last minute like hang out so like it takes me like 15 minutes to get to her house but it's like 30 minutes i gotta go she asked me to give her a ride home the other day we were like at melrose eating at some restaurant she's like can you give me a ride i was like no i live by a sinkhole you gotta take yourself oh my god so is it completely cleared up now it's cleared up now yeah people can go through what happened it just bursted busted what happened it was a 110 year old water main that just like randomly bursted at like 5 a.m it that happened like in the afternoon like that would have been such a big deal like people would have died do you think like we ho and stuff is like like melrose you said you had lunch at melrose do you think that's because you know i was looking at i was on a site tiktok where everyone was getting like robbed in their car on melrose and i was like what is happening because like melrose used to be so safe i went to coyote something el coyote i went to el coyote and that was like a fun local bar i don't know it's so weird i love that you went there that's also the place the last place sharon tate went before she got was killed wait who sharon tate oh my wait do you know her no tell me about her oh my gosh wait what okay okay sharon tate was like a famous actress quentin tarantino did the movie marco robber played her charles manson they did the whole what was the movie called hillary duff played her too um there was a couple there's called once my time in hollywood and then hillary duff played her oh wait a minute oh wait a minute oh wait a minute oh wait a minute oh wait i've seen once upon a time in hollywood i fell asleep halfway through though well and it was also not historically accurate because she lived and they like leonardo caprio ended up like fighting off the manson killers austin butler was one of the killers and stuff like that it was like this whole thing anyways she her last meal with el coyote which is like right next to the quentin tarantino theater anyways it's very old it's very where would you want your last meal to be oh my gosh like restaurant uh i guess benihana i love it is there a good benihana in the valley the encino one is great there's no window so you feel like you're in vegas and you don't know what time it is like we always go at 11 a.m and you're just like what time is it so it's kind of like it gets early oh yeah i love it i love it because you get your own table you go to 11 a.m when they open oh yeah i don't like to eat with the others yeah no i don't mind eating i hate no i don't want to eat with others can i tell you i went to benihana and like the next day uh kim kardashian posted her kids at benihana and i was like do you think kim is sitting at the table with other people she would love you are you you didn't be friends with her how are you not friends with her i've been trying i literally before he came i was like i love update like i love him i don't know how but then it's kind of what you were saying about like andy like just being like why are you like at the table same thing with kim it's like i don't know how i wasn't invited i'm such a skims fan i'm such an update fan like i love everything kim kardashian and i yeah and all the influencers get invited and i'm just like and i'm happy for them so happy alexa oakley i love her she gets invited to everything she went to the desperate housewives oh yeah and i was like ah and you got paid for it yeah i did a video for them i did one the one that you saw and then i'm doing another one that hasn't been posted yet but yeah i'm so jealous and they had like you didn't know but they they have like little like people there like they had the props like the muffins the gardeners were so good they had like breeze muffins yes did you watch the show or you just were like i've re-watched it like 22 times i i can tell you everything i'm re-watching it right now it's so i wish i could re-watch desperate housewives for the first time are they doing a reboot why are they doing this um they're just promoting that it's back on hulu but from what i under what a great promotion you are so lucky all of you guys alexa you guys are so lucky you guys don't understand how iconic that is i promote them for free all the time and it's like the fact that they're paying people to promote it is everything no and i i've done like videos about it like rating the husbands from desperate housewives although tiktok flagged it because i think i was making fun of men and like some hater like the husbands were the worst there's so many of them too he was my worst was he on your number one yes number one guy did best to worst i put carlos as the best and him as the worst carlos was everything honestly carlos rode hard for gabrielle and she would like cheat on him do all this stuff and he still rode hard for him remember that's true but then he got he went blind so i guess that was like his like karma for it do you remember the quote do you remember when this is my favorite quote of like them like when remember when they took in xiaomei that like asian like housekeeper oh yes yes she gabrielle didn't want to take them in because the church was forcing them because they had the money to do it oh right right right and then she was like we're not doing that carlos and he's like you're so selfish like you would turn down joseph and mary from the inn and gabrielle goes well they should have called ahead and i was like t she was so good why is she not there she should have been there i saw mary alice was you know they all don't with each other well i don't think they f*** terry hatcher but terry hatcher wasn't there no she i just don't i think there's a lot of like the beefs on that show just run deep they like yeah they just had a desperate housewives con where they like all of them were together and you could take a picture with but even longoria wasn't there marcia cross was there but nicholas sheridan was there yeah nicholas sheridan was there thing that was just like something they put together oh you think they just got paid to be there or something like that yeah they were just kind of like whatever there's a clip that goes viral of tom scavo and it's literally lynette being like oh you got you got this pizza again like you didn't get the thin crust or whatever she was you know i like the thin crust and he's like and then he's like well he's like she would never complain about the thin crust and she was like so pissed because after 23 years she was i thought you would just know what kind of pizza i like and i was like yeah tom like how could you not know and it's like he just like i didn't think it was a big deal and it's like that's the problem tom tom was the worst he was awful he had so many i did a tiktok with him in real life i saw him at a lifetime event and i was like can i do a video with you and say the guy the actor who played him what was his name like uh doug doug savant doug savant i saw him and i was like so tom scavo has been like you're like i was like you stole lynette's job like what did he say he was like no tom was lovable handsome he was trying to defend it oh no and then he like he went on this terry hatcher as a desperate housewives podcast and he went on there he's like yeah this guy like kind of sold me out and like he's like oh you're talking about you yeah he's like but i kind of went along with it i was like oh girl he was awful and you should just admit it like it's all of them now like all of them should just admit that their their parts were awful there was not one good husband oh well that's the thing it's that that's how men were back then it's like cook clean my house like a lot of the way the husband's acting that show pissed me off they're like why isn't dinner on the table and it's like yes make your own dinner like what brie's husband or her second husband orson wolf and sheep's clothing oh my god when he made her make the pot roast he's like you promised me a pot roast and she was so tired and he's like make me the pot roast and then the fans always try to say like oh well they just ruined orson after seeing that i was like no it was he was always nefarious always problematic always problematic there was not one good one on there they were all awful they were all terrible even mike i thought mike was so annoying too i thought they were all i was sad when he died though so sad that was like that susan had a shit at the time yeah but susan was annoying the character not terry after i don't know if susan was like so annoying she was the worst on their show so i but i was so obsessed with desperate housewives and i was hoping they were going to do a reboot because they had they are i think carrie washington's doing like a reimagining with mark cherry um he's not involved but i think he gave her like permission i'm sure and like she's gonna be with onyx which and i think onyx has like a distribution deal with hulu i could be wrong about that but you're a hulu partner you should know i love that you go to all the get up fronts everything like that you're so in it like are you a hulu partner or just desperate housewives um hulu partner yeah so all the shows that come out just they just asked me to do that one just that's why but hulu invites me to a lot of stuff which i love because i love hulu i love hulu too you go to are you a mormon wives person oh yeah wait really oh my god you said the taylor frankie paul was like an uptick oh yeah she called me on tiktok too yeah and like you guys talk because she comments she'll comment on stuff with the deets she always talks about stuff with the deets she always comments on like her i messaged her when before the well it was a day before the chair video through because okay i do think everything that's going on at taylor frankie paul is misogyny okay interesting okay what tell me because i i don't disagree i think it's misogyny because it's like okay yeah she threw this chair her to be honest i really don't care that she threw the chair the only bad thing she did was have making sure her kids were like the fact that her kids were there was crazy i was like girl you're crazy as why are your kids there you couldn't if i were her and like the kids were there would have been like hey sweetie i'm gonna take you across the right right but like i guess they did leave them and go in the truck or something yeah right or like make at least at the most they're in bed yes yeah yeah but like geez but hopefully not in the house yeah like but girl like but i don't think she was wrong for throwing him i think he makes her crazy i don't think she's like this toxic out of nowhere and i feel like people are siding with him because he has all this evidence but i feel like he's also just as abusive they shouldn't be together but i think also we also need to get over it because she's actively making steps to be better and we should give her a crate and barrel deal for like durable stools oh my god that'd be the way to go i think she'll come back i think she will come back i think people love her i hope so do you think it's unfair though that like people go there are a little easier and lenient with her because she is like just like this pretty girl you know what i mean and she's well i think the thing with taylor franca paul is like she's not a liar she openly tells you that she's crazy she openly tells you that she's working on things she opens she tells you she's toxic and she tells you why yeah you've seen you've met her family you know why and then like sure yeah like her mom and stuff so it's like when you know that it's like can you yeah i feel like that's why she gets a pass the rest of the girls they don't i think that's why the rest of the girls on mormon wise don't like her because like she has this serena vanderwoods and jenna say qua right right the girls can't emulate and that's why that's the thing all those girls like taylor frankie paul but they're just jealous they can't get away with what she gets away with like literally everything yeah that's true i guess i don't know i gotta go back and forth with her because i agree with you the misogyny i also agree she gets away with things more people than most people would you know like men okay and i'm like other women i think because she's pretty and skinny and it's like she fits the mold who are the other women that don't get away with it i'm trying to think but i don't think taylor frankie paul is getting away with it with it this time i feel like something is happening with her and everyone the powers that be are trying to like not like yeah okay happen anymore because all her haters are like screaming loud loud loud like especially the girls on mormon wives and i also feel like i don't know like if we cancel the bachelorette like let's cancel the nba let's cancel the nfl right right the guys for sure that i totally agree guys get away with a lot more for sure i think yeah i think you're right i guess i don't know i guess yeah i don't know it's hard to say because people are like yeah like we put up with jax taylor you don't know who that is that's like i do know jax because that's the one that was with britney yeah and he's crazy as hell he just got like off tv finally for whatever what happened what was his crazy um i think the nail in the coffin was that he was being abusive towards britney in the home for i i don't know if it was like fully abusive i mean i don't i mean i'm sure he was being erratic yeah and like it was getting scary and then he said he was going to rehab but he left rehab early and like the kid was afraid of him it was oh no there's a scene where he's like oh my god i don't know i don't he's asking the kid for a hug and he's like oh they left it in that's what's crazy about the valley is they're so messy they like leave in all those moments who's the one that's like really annoying the danny is the little husband oh yeah and he's having his own yeah they call him what do they call him dark dark side danny yeah like what they show all that stuff oh my god these people not executive producers they act at the final cut it's like so crazy to me that they don't get like any say on it i know it is weird kardashians you're into kardashians of course i was on there they showed me at the hulu event like i was like there and they make it look like yeah i was there on i was they were it was like when they were promoting the get real event it's so meta the kardashians oh i love that yeah you're always like there angry did you talk did you talk to them no i was just like watching chloe and scott speak and i was like in the front and everyone's like friar the kardashians i was like i didn't have it was a non-speaking role did you have to sign anything or no they were just filmed yeah they were because it was a hulu event so it's like okay guys we're filming i'm pretty sure this year i was on love thy nadir because i went up to brooke's nadir and i was like brooke's nadir say that you love the gays and she was kind of drunk and she was like i love the gays i love her i think she's on the ground or were you just tick-tocking like were you i was tick-tocking i was tick-tocking when's the last time you did interviews like red carpet probably at bravo con i hate red carpet interviewing why yeah it's so i've only done twice and i love it i'm like i want to do more i would do it for like a big brand yeah but why do you hate it i don't hate it it's just like a lot like i think it's a rush it's like oh my god it is a rush like here let's do it like when i did streamies that was fun i was like well this is easy but it's like i don't hate it that's a strong word it's just i like it when i'm there and it's all over with but the lead-up is just like oh my god who am i gonna piss off i'm gonna piss off someone's publicist or like things like that right it's a lot when you're in there and you have to try and get your thing because i was like i went with access and i remember for wicked oh yeah i remember that they were very much like they said go out don't go talk to them what happened but then like jimmy fallon come by and like you want to talk to him i'm like i don't know what to ask jimmy fallon like it's like one of those things that are like really scary because you're just like how do you i did one for the brat one too and i was just like they like go talk to this person i'm like oh what if i didn't know you know the person was and i'm so bad at coming up with questions for people i don't know it's a little bit of like memorizing but also like getting headlines and like that's the and also i can't do when they're like oh this is a good like clickbait one and i can't oh well working at et was like the military like every place i worked after that i was like like it's so funny why et so much why is it so because it's all like headlines this they want a moment and like and as fair like every outlet deserves one the thing is i've only worked at really big news outlets so like that's kind of like i'm kind of glad i did that because like now when i do my own content or even when even when i post on sub stack for i've been at dot sub stack yes that's that like um i like make crazy headlines because i want people to like watch them like that's like the one thing i learned for sure so like but yeah it's a talent i mean because oscar does our titles too and it's like i it was oh i learned titles from him he has crazy titles the titles are crazy i mean and i'm always like oh like every time i'm always like oh my god there's only like a couple times where i text him like it's a little much let's change a little bit of the words and stuff like that but it's so good and i think that's why the podcast is cool because like titles and thumbnails are everything when i did youtube videos they would always like flop because i never did titles or thumbnails like my titles would be like you know like waiting in a van or something like that no one cares but i'd be talking about like juicy content and it's like oh and now did you hire someone to do your titles in after that oscar does it oh okay on youtube no they still flop my main channel still flops it still gets like 40,000 views oh yeah i think it no i mean they get like 30,000 it's totally 30,000 people that watch me but it'll be like literally like the live vlog but i feel like everyone's dead on youtube what why did it go is it because tati and james charles i feel like they were like the beginning you think the drama get and ended it yeah i think it did really i think it did but i'll never forget when i came out oh my god i was so crazy on youtube were you james charles stan like did you were you uh why were you seated i wasn't james charles stan i just found him a little bit ridiculous and the singing career was like a lot for like when you sing it's camp when he was doing it he was trying to be he was like trying to be frankie grande and i was like ah i don't know so like but then like i know he's crazy i love frank what do you think about him getting mad about like that girl that asked him for like um money or something oh james charles yes yes he was that was nasty boots of course no there's nothing about james charles that is redeeming to me i think there is like if there's one person that i'm like that person should be like he'll never get canceled i guess he's kind of the taylor frankie paul of youtubers where it's just like people oh no she's way more likable but i don't know he still has a lot of fans i guess in the same sense that like he does things that should be definitely cancelable in 2026 because once again people have to be like well he's a man you gotta remember i guess that's true still a man yeah i guess that's true because he still gets a lot of viewers no i think he does have his own makeup line jacqueline hill's still around she's she's on tick tock i think she's kind of popular on tick tock she's that's good because i remember one time she like my tiktoks are flopping and then i went to go look and it's like a million views i'm a girl you're getting a million views i know jackie aina is still doing seven she's blocking everybody really i love i love people who say like compliments she'll be like they'll be like i love your content i love your new last name and they'll be like and she'll block that oh well i kind of love that i kind of love she's like i think we're the same age and i kind of and she's just said she's been an influencer for like 17 years something like that and i'm like sometimes you just have to have no no you just can't take people i just block people too sometimes i block people too like she blocks them if they say something nice but maybe she takes it as you know sometimes i see something and it's like you only see the first part you're like wait is this an insult or not i'm like i'm not gonna take the time to decide i'm just gonna block you you know someone dm'd my friend she's kind of an influencer she's called the traveling nurse but someone dm'd her yesterday we were at the soccer game and they were like oh my god thank you for showing off your cellulite like you're such a warrior and she was like what kind of backhanded compliment is this i was like that is when you should block someone yeah do you know shay sullivan on tiktok sounds familiar but she just got married she had like a big wedding and she's got married she's like i think she's like a model she's with that hot guy yes yes yes yes yes yes yes they're so cute together i just love that shay sullivan is like clearly not on ozepic and she clearly likes to eat breakfast lunch and dinner like they were doing the back she's not even like overweight by the way she's like lost weight for the wedding and also she is just thin she's just a thin girl but people were trying to be i love that she's healthy i love that she looks healthy and it's like there's a healthy weight for people but people trying to be backhanded because it's like she looks you know you can just tell she's a regular girl yes i hate that she's so tiny but people love the backhanded compliments people want to see themselves and we're in this era where people are like oh my god everyone wants to see themselves in someone like not cute that's true do you think that's why megan trainer's like quote-unquote downfall i'm not saying she's like downfall but like people started like turning on her because now she's thin and she's not what she's saying about you know what i think you know what i think it is it's kind of like the lizzo stuff too i feel like everyone makes it i think people who make a big deal not that megan trainer made a big deal that's about this but like i feel like people who made a who were saying they were like body positive and stuff are now on ozempic and i feel like to others it's like people feel like it's betraying the whole thing but it's like okay so like like lizzo do you know remy joe bader she's another one i love her she's so nice i love her too i love her so much and people were saying the same kind of thing where it was like she built her platform on body positivity so then you lose weight and then do you lose your audience do you lose your relatability i don't know maybe i guess that that's what you're like known for and now you're thin right but ozempic is so accessible it's not like she's doing this like super rich thing that like no one has access to anymore that's true she did a surgery i think but yeah same thing yeah where it's kind of like yeah yeah i mean i think i tell people all the time as a big person my whole life it's like of every big person i think would be would love to be a healthy weight if they could but it's like it's psychological i've been big my whole life i've been over 200 pounds my entire life it's like a psychological thing so it's like it's all of a sudden now people can be thin of course they're gonna be thin like i don't know why people are surprised by it i don't think that goes away i know a lot of people that have like lost weight on ozempic and like they feel like not they still feel like they're bigger selves or they're not comfortable within themselves so i feel like yeah just because someone loses weight that doesn't lose that essence of like the positivity i get by no dream mean like i guess it's more of like the you want to see yourself in someone and i was like that during this whole like i'm on a glp1 now and it's like when you see people losing weight you just get like a little like frustrated like are we all doing this but as someone who's on a glp1 it's like obviously i'm not being like so skinny or anything that but you just feel great thank you i feel better i definitely feel better on it but it's um did you like being pregnant was that like a time for you being pregnant i would i would keep being pregnant if i could but i'm older so i'm like let me just my friend just had a baby so i'm like i was living through her pregnancy oh my gosh did you meet the baby yes i did she was so cute she was trying to have a natural birth okay and then no i think she ended up doing it but she was gonna do like at home oh like a natural natural like no medication nothing other than she had to go to the hospital she well her baby was supposed to be born on christmas and that this year well it's supposed to be born she was supposed to be induced on like the 20th or something and then she was like i just want to have it on the 26th i don't want it to be on christmas and then she oh she had it last year last yeah yeah okay i thought you meant this year it's supposed to be christmas i'm like damn that's early baby but she was like honestly i think like i was in labor on the 25th i just held it in because i just did not want a deal and then she and then she was like and then she said she gaslighted her whole medical team and then they went to the parking lot with her midwife who she had and they were like babe you're like seven centimeters dilated like you should go to a hospital so it's like this whole thing but easy delivery and stuff like that it all went well she's fine and she's alive to tell the story the baby's so cute oh my gosh that's so cute do you like kids that's a big thing now on tiktok there's people who are like no kids children well children fascinate me i don't know if i would have one of my own but yeah you like you like kids kids love me you're kid friendly you have a good like personality very like outgoing if i was a parent this yelling has to stop yeah there would be no terrible twos in my home like i do that age is a tough one though they're all our kids are so sweet so respectful but damn those how old's your daughter i have a three-year-old a two-year-old and my son's turned one that's a lot yeah that's a lot i'm interviewing trisha now i know hi everyone welcome back to for i unfiltered the mom hour for your podcast it will be sitting with myself oh my god you need to be on it yeah you need to have a full podcast like on spotify like you're so good at it well i want a deal to me like oh you need the cash up front deal i need that that's what i tried with this one it didn't work out i would i would say you may be happier in the long run if you just find your own ad like through your agents like just get your own ad deals you might get more money that way sometimes cash up front they kind of i don't know look i've never gotten a cash up front deal i don't know but what i've heard from other people who've gotten cash up fronts is um is it like a advance like if you write a book sometimes sometimes i've heard different things with different people because i know people get sometimes like right you get a million dollars like oh my god a million dollars up front it's great but then yeah sometimes you have to recoup it and they may like say like let's say you get an ad deal for like an ad read for five thousand dollars they'll like just say oh it's only 1500 so it takes a longer time for you to recoup so someone i know got like a million dollar podcast deal it could take them four years to recoup when they could have made it and they're stuck in the deal okay i've heard that but you're probably smart you probably know i don't know i'm gonna never happen to me i try to get cash up front never happen so but maybe if you're like with hulu and stuff like that you know you get hulu needs to like they have this little like show called like the get real like podcast i need to ask my agent on that i thought you were going there today no you're not going to get we're going to a different podcast oh i'm going to a different podcast today get real is like that i think that's the one i was thinking of that's like a yeah it's like a show like they have on hulu now where they like discuss like the new shows that drop i know they were discussing million dollar nannies yes yeah you watch that show i haven't yet it's on my list i have so many shows on my list what's else on your list what other new shows i have not watched real houses of rhode island because it came out during coachella season and i was just like really like concerned about rhode island like what's happening i heard it it is the gag of rhode island yeah the little tiny one the tiny state above new york oh yeah and they all like and some of them like make fun of each other for like living like so far when really they're only like five miles away from each other it's so ridiculous oh are they all rich is all the housewives rich is that the gimmick uh rich in spirit that's why you need to be on housewives because you'd be really rich i'm rich in spirit if you got fired from housewives like it wouldn't affect you like it wouldn't like shape your personality because you are who you are you gotta get fired you know you'd be like lisa rena like lisa rena had a career before she was offended on traders when they're like i'm not a housewife i'm lisa she's lisa rena but you would be like i don't mind being known as a housewife if that's what gets me on traders i'll be like i'll be a housewife like what do you mean you should be on no i don't think i can unless i go on housewives or something like that you need to be on dancing with the stars you need to be on so many shows that one i do that's another one like the update where i'm like seeing all these people go on dancing with the stars it's like really just i love them but like like a savannah bananas on dancing with the stars this season oh my god i just learned who savannah bananas was like three months ago and i'm like i love the savannah bananas but how are you going to dance with the stars endless summer escapes start here travel the worlds of netflix irl inspired by fan favorites like stranger things and squid game brave the upside down face off with the front man play leveled up arcade games shop exclusive merch and enjoy themed food and drinks beat the heat play eat and shop on repeat at netflix house at galleria dallas bring your crew and save get your tickets today at netflix.com slash house my friend my friend got free tickets to savannah savannah banana show no well no she was like it's in new york and i'm not going to new york for savannah bananas and i was like why i get confused about savannah bananas i'm like they're playing stadiums they're like literally like at the dodger stadium i'm like what the hell do they actually play baseball by the way they play baseball and they sing one of my favorite broadway stars derrick clanner just joined he was one of the fieros on broadway and he just became a savannah banana and i was like i kind of love this and he but he's like a famous savannah banana i feel like the one that didn't see the stars like no shade i don't i didn't know have you seen high school musical too of course okay high school musical is my favorite thing ever like i love that's why we were dressed as troy bolton i was like oh my god my spirit animal he's my everything i'm about to do another one i'm about to do another troy bolton video yeah you did ben on it i did bet on it i'm gonna do one more i love i remember your ben on it era that's my favorite anyways what about high school musical too i love i would say that song i don't dance is like savannah banana is coded like i don't dance oh yeah i know you did oh yeah i love that one that's the one where they thought they were like they were shipping uh them together oh ryan and what was his name chad yeah they should date high school was gay in so many ways did you know ryan was not gay the actor who played him oh he's not it's gabriel he's straight but he played all these gay roles all the time but they made ryan straight in high school musical 3 they were like go with the composer oh that's right the playmaker i love high school musical we'll never get those again we'll never get that era i have more mom questions okay okay i'm so fascinated i love mom podcasts they're so does anybody i don't know if anybody does i tried a mom podcast no one cared okay so you don't have a mom group i don't mom group i i want to be one i need i need one i need more friends yeah why is that hard to find aren't are all your kids like homeschooled or something um well they're not in school yet because they're only three but and we're not gonna homeschool them we're not gonna do that homeschool kids are weird i had the most traumatic school experience trisha no the teachers the kids the bullying the violence on your private school no you're fine that is like forty thousand dollars a year but they can go make friends with northwest at sierra canyon like what are you talking about trisha we're not thinking smart Are you homeschooled? Do you have trauma with homeschooling? I think homeschooled kids are so weird. No, they're so weird. You can't. Well, you can do pods and you can take them to socialize. I think they have to be. I just don't. They have to be social. Well, the only way you can, the only person, time a person who's homeschooled isn't weird is if they're a child actor. Like Miley, Selena, Demi, like you're getting socialized in other ways. That's all their trauma. No, but then you can go to dance class. Like they go to dance, they go to tumbling, they go to karate. Like they go to all their little classes and stuff. But they need to know the nuances of the world. Like, you know, like how are they going to deal with stuff if they're like not. Sorry, everyone needs to be a little bullied. Like, I'm sorry. It's not gentle parenting. And you're a millennial. Oh my God, you make me sick. Bullying was the traumatic. Have you never been bullied? I take it. I mean, I grew up, girl, I went to an all white high school. I was one of three black people that went to my middle school and high school, babe. Fair enough, yes. You can't, you cannot hurt my feelings. Trust me. Wait, really? So you never, it never hurt you as like a kid? You didn't go home crying or anything like that? No, I wasn't going to give people the satisfaction. Of course, I'd go home and cry by myself. Oh, I see, that's what's so sad. No, but it's fine. It toughened me up and that's why I talk s*** on the internet because I know this is all ridiculous. Like, people are going to judge you regardless, so who cares? I guess so. I guess I just wanted to be in a bubble. And like, as I got older, I cared less and like, people would like make fun of me for like what I was into growing up. Like, I'd be into pop culture and all those people were boring. Did they really? Like, what? No one was into anything I was into growing up. Some people were, but like, not really. And you wouldn't have wanted to be homeschooled? No, I'm too social. And I'm only a child. I had to be socialized. Because you're a social person. I'm very introverted, so I'm like, I would love to go the rest of my life never talking to someone again. But because of my kids, I don't want them to be like me. I'm like, okay, let me be social. So we do take them to like social events and like social kid play dates and stuff like that, but. No, you need to put them in like, yeah. No, not real school though, never. Because I had like, my teachers. You don't want to deal with the, do you just not want to deal with like parent-teacher conference? Do you not want to deal with like homework? I don't want to deal with the teachers bullying or sexually harassing my kids. I had like, literally people don't believe me. But if you go to a private school, that's like, you know, smaller classes. No, even worse. Because then it's like, you know. But they can become friends with like. Rich kids have access to drugs and stuff like that. Because I do know someone who went to private school and their kid was like, they got addicted quickly to like. But they're going to do drugs one day. No, they won't. One day someone will give them a line. No, they won't. You have to be prepared for that day. No, I feel like never. I feel like because of what I've been through, I can like tell them like, this is the worst. I think you can either become your like, you can become like your parents or you like learn from your parents. And they can read my whole book if they want. I'll be like, read this whole book. This is what you're not going to be. Because I was like, so yeah, I think it's. I know what you mean. And you know what? You never know. I don't think there's ever a right choice, right? Like I, my public school was so traumatic. I was like sexually harassed by all my teachers. Like a lot of them. I would say five out of my ten teachers. Illinois. Oh yeah, if you're from the Midwest. Yeah, Midwest. And you moved here like really young, right? I moved here when I was 17. I guess I just had turned 18 in May and I moved out here. I moved out here on my 18th birthday. Yeah, and I like love LA now. But yeah, it's, you know, and I went to a small town. So you think small towns, I don't know. But there was a lot of violence in my school. And it was small. We were like in a country, okay? We're like country farmers. Okay, so that's a different experience than your kids are going to get. They're going to be city girls. Which could be also awful too, right? Because it's like, and not to be all like political and not to be too serious. Because it's a fun podcast. But like, you know, obviously we have like a horrible like gun problem in our, in America. That's very true. And it's not just, it's city. Like obviously you hear about it in the city. But like where I grew up there, a lot of people had hunting guns and stuff like that. And people would bring those to school. And so it's just like, it's just, I don't know. I'd rather just be in a little bubble. LA is kind of crazy too. Did I ever tell you about that? Well, I go, how would I, you would know this. No, tell me. Maybe, because we met. We met so many times. And I'm like, okay. I went to the Malibu Chili Cook-Off like, I want to say two years ago. Oh, I love that. That's a thing. Yeah, no, it's like a whole thing. And Northwest was there with her little friends. And she was like fighting to get on the Tilt-A-Whirl. Oh, I love that. That's cute. Okay. And her security was just like in the back. But I thought it was so funny. I'm like, Northwest was out here at the Malibu Chili Cook-Off. And she was just, was she with like her parents or just friends? No, she was with friends. But she had security. Like, she had like one security guy. Oh, that's crazy. It was so chill. Like, no one, only I knew she was there. Because, you know, pop culture girls are the least. Right, right. But everyone else was like leaving her alone. Like, no one was like, oh, that's North. Right. But I still feel like that's a good example in general. It's just like, because of who she is, like, people just criticize her so much. Like, the way her body is, the way she's dressed. And she's 13. She's just going through her phase. That's what I'm saying. And I think it's like, ah, it's just like, I hate that. I hate it. I hate it, too. Yeah, so it's almost like. And it's Kardashian slander. And people are very weirdly misogynistic about the Kardashians, too. Yeah. So, like, and I feel like it's because of, like, who her parents are and all this stuff. I think it's like not, it's just like not fair as it is. And I guess if she goes to school, like, I mean, if she has security and stuff, she's not getting, like, bullied. But it's like because of who her parents is. I mean, don't you think people are going to say stuff? I don't know. But I also feel like it's a closer community than you think. Yeah. I feel like Northwest is like, yeah, she's famous, but, like, other famous people go there. Like, you know, I feel like it's, like, different. Like, I feel like, like, I have a friend who grew up in West Hollywood and also in the Valley. And she randomly will be, like, on, she'll be online. She's like, oh, that person's famous. Now we went to high school with them. Like, I feel like it's not, like, that big of a deal. Oh, interesting. Like, they'll just be like, oh, Trisha Paytas, yeah, her daughter goes here. Or, like, oh, yeah, that's Trisha Paytas' daughter. Like, that's her mom, Trisha Paytas. Like, you know, like, it's, like, going to be, like, you know. Because you know what happened with me in school? And it's on such a different level because my mom was not on social media or anything. But if people, there was haters on my mom, right? Because, like, my mom, whatever. There was, like, haters on my mom. So because I went back to the hometown that she grew up in, if she went to school with people that didn't like her, they're like, that's Lena Paytas' daughter. Like, we're going to treat her. So, like, I had a teacher that my mom knew. See, that's people who are bored in Illinois who have nothing else to do. But don't you think here, they're like, oh, we hate, like, there's a Trisha Paytas hater and that's my daughter's teacher. No, because celebrities are the thing where it's like, oh, I've read what's happening in Us Weekly. Like, so sorry. I don't know. I guess you're right. If you need anything, like, I hate, like, what the internet's saying. Yeah. People are a little bit nicer to you when you have a scandal because it's like they see you in, like, real life doing your thing, like, dropping your kid off and they're like, oh, it humanizes you. Yes and no. But then you look at Northwest, obviously, they know Kanye is, obviously, that's, like, a horrible thing. But then, you know, Kim goes there. She smooths it over. She's like, I'll build you a pavilion. And, like, and it's. We don't have pavilion money. I don't know. We're not going to be. Oh, my God. You're so humble. But maybe. The Trisha Paytas podcasting studio. Well, we can definitely build a studio for them, too. It's right. No, you're right. You're right. And I think there is some time. We have, like, another year or so. We go back and forth, for sure. I am very traumatized. But maybe, maybe there's, like, a charter school. Maybe there's, I don't know. Yeah, she could be, like, the first pancake. And if it works, it works. The first pancake? Yeah, you're, like, you're the first daughter. Oh, to try it out. Yeah, she's the first pancake. So you, like, you know, you flip it over. And then it's, like, and then the other two, they're fine. Because you're like, oh, they're well done. Yeah, yeah. I learned my mistake. I've never heard that term before. See, that's why it's bad being an only child. It's like, oh, I was the first pancake for everything. How did you like being an only child? I loved it. Yeah. I really did. Like, and I still do. I just, like, I mean, I have a lot of cousins. Like, a lot of them. My mom's, like, the ninth child out of nine brothers and sisters. So maybe that's why you love the public school so much. Or, like, going and pushing that. Because you didn't get to socialize with, like, your siblings. So you're just like, oh, maybe, like. Well, I socialized with my cousins. I would do all this stuff with them. I see. So they were close. And also, the great thing about them, I could tell them to go home. I'd be like, please leave my house. Oh, you would. You would like your time then, too. Oh, I never liked sleepovers growing up. My mom would push me. She'd be like, do you want to sleep over at your cousin's house? And I'm like, no. Oh, that's so funny. And she was like, no, why? Because they would want me to come over. And they'd beg my mom. They'd be like, oh, can you come? And I'd be like, tell them no. Oh, wait, really? I just want to watch That's So Raven in Peace. Like, I do. Were you That's So Raven? You should go on her podcast. Because you're doing podcasts right now. You're doing, like, podcast rounds. You're going to one after this. I hope so. She's in South Africa doing Cheetah Girls 4. Oh, my God. You're right. Yeah. So she's Izzy. I was trying to do that because my agent represents her, too. Oh, my God. Is she, like, your fave from Disney Channel? Who's your Disney? Is it Miley? Oh, Miley is my girl. That's my girl. Oh, that's right. You're Oscar's age. OK. Raven is more, like, my age. So that's, yeah. I was obsessed. I had a Raven phase, though. Raven came out when I was, like, in second grade, I remember. It was the same night as Kim Possible. Oh, my gosh. But I was obsessed with Raven. I was obsessed. And then Hannah Montana came around, and I was like, oh, I've completely converted. That's the new queen for you. So your Mount Rushmore of Disney is? Raven, Miley, Hilary Duff. Wow. And, oh, who else? I would say, oh, there's one more, right? Who's, like, Kim Possible, Chrissy Carlson, or Romano? I mean, but, you know, she's not Mount Rushmore. She's more, like, you know, like Yellowstone Park. OK. She's up there somewhere. Yeah, she's up there somewhere. Just not on my Mount Rushmore. OK. God, who's another Disney queen? I don't even know. I don't want to say Selena, because I didn't really, like, watch what was the regular place, but I knew who Selena Gomez was. Demi? She had a couple. No, not her. No, there's, ooh, am I missing? Oh, like, maybe Ashley Tisdale. You know what? I'd say Zac Efron. Zac Efron could be up there. He was in High School Musical, right? Yeah, he was, like, yeah. Have you read that book, Disney High? No. It's called Disney High, The Rise and Fall of the Disney Channel Tween Empire. What happened? What's the book about? They basically, each chapter is about, like, the height of Disney Channel, and it's, like, and it talks about, like, basically how that show came to be. It talks about the parents. It talks about the kids, how they got the role, and it's, like, really informative. And they talk about Zac Efron and Miley Cyrus. They almost really didn't get their roles. Like, Disney was not really checking for Miley Cyrus. How did they, how did Miley get, because what was her, you know who was on here was Allie and AJ, and they were saying how they auditioned for Hannah Montana. I think it was AJ who said she auditioned for Hannah Montana, and I think they, like, maybe offered it to her? Then she said no. Yeah. They talk about that. Oh, interesting. But Miley was, like, they just didn't, the thing with Miley, I think she auditioned when she was super young, and then they auditioned all these other girls, and then six months went by, and they were, like, okay, well, Miley's older, and, like, they just made her work for it. They were, like, okay, well, and then, like, technically they had Danielle Monáe and her between them two, and the guy who created- Which one's Danielle Monáe? She did, she was, um, she was in Victoria. She was the sister in Victoria, someone who can't sing. She's like, Chicago! Oh, yes, yes, yes. Trina Vega. Yeah, Trina Vega. Okay, I know that from TikTok. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it was between her and Miley Cyrus. You know, she does not, she can't, she auditioned for Roxy Hart in Chicago, and they didn't give it to her. What? And it's, like, everyone, like, Ariana Maddox, like, everybody can be Roxy Hart, but she auditioned, and they didn't give it. And Whitney. Yes! I saw Whitney was here, too, yeah. I love Whitney. I do love Whitney so much. Yeah, she seems sweet. Back to Broadway, she just teased, uh, yesterday. Good for her. And it looks like she's lip-syncing a song from Just In Time, so everyone thinks she's gonna go back into that show. Are you a Broadway person, musicals? Um, no, I'm not. I fell asleep in Wicked Part 1 and 2. The movies? Yeah, it's so long. I can't do a long one. Oh, my. But I, like, watched it for the culture. I don't understand Wicked, if I'm being really honest. What? I feel like there's no magic involved. My heart's broken. What? It's all magic. But no one knows how to use the magic. Elphaba can't even use the magic, really. Well, Alpha was the only one who can't. why the wizard and her have that connection because the wizard obviously drank the little potion and got her the match. She's the one who wants the power. I knew that from the first movie. I was like, gag to the people who never see the play. By the way, also, I feel like El, like, what's her name? Not Elphaba. Glinda. Oh, yeah. Glinda could have easily stood up on the proclamation and been like, girls, it's just a little green. It's just a little green. Can we please move on from this? I'm the queen. I say we get over this because this is my sister. Matt, I would have been like, listen, Madame Morrible isn't, she's scamming. So we're going to move on from this. New laws. Everyone treat Elphaba with some respect. And then we could have really moved on. Like her walking with the scarecrow in the distance, I'm like, huh? You didn't like that ending? No. Where did they go? It was so cute. They just went off into their own, well, the movie was a little like, it was giving a little like Star Wars, like you're in a different galaxy all of a sudden. In the play, they kind of just walk off to the sunset. It's kind of cute, but yeah. I don't understand that. To do what? To die? To hide where? Where are they going? What are they doing? Where is she now? Outside of Oz. My friend has a video on TikTok of her mom being like, her mom is like, Elphaba, Elphaba, Elphaba, where is she now? I'm so sad. I'm so sad too. It's so funny. I'm such a stan. Wicked, if I stan one thing, I stan Wicked. And I loved it so much. I love the props to her. And I get what people do. Like, it's fun. And Ariana Grande was gagging that role. She was great. So did you like, do you think they should have won any Oscars? Do you think that they were like? Not for part two. Part one, yeah, probably. I think part two was, we both agreed that part two was the best. We thought that was the better one. It was so good. Part two had more like, oomph to it. Yeah, like emotion. And I thought the actors were so good. Everyone was so, I was like, what the hell? What happened? The songs were so good. But what happened on the set of Wicked? Something, there was, you know what? Ariana Grande needs to do that trend being like, my documentary of what happened. Do you think you've ever like, been around a killer? Yeah. Did you date one? Yeah. You did? I have a story time on YouTube. Yeah, I actually didn't make my book. I actually talked about one time where I cut things. Like, it's like very much like, well, if it doesn't move the story along, then we're gonna just like, cut it. I mean, I had to say, obviously, what got cut too, but it was like, yeah. Are you with like, Simon & Schuster or something? HarperCollins? I'm with Grand Central Publishing, which they're really great. Honestly, they were the first people I met with, and I was like, done and done. They were like, my favorite. They were wonderful. They're so great. So, I love them so much. I love that. They did a problem with Sheena Shea. I actually did want to read it. Do you know Sheena Shea? Yeah, of course I know Sheena Shea. What show is she from? She's from Bravo. She's on Phantom of Rules. Oh. And now she's on the, well, no, she's on The Valley. They didn't ask her to be a part of The Valley. She's not on The Valley? No, she's not on it. She had a book come out, and they did her book. And when I signed with them, they're like, we just did Sheena Shea's book, and I like the cover. Sheena Shea definitely does not like me. Wait, really? Oh, she totally doesn't. Wait, why? Do you know her? What have you said about her? I know for a fact. Have you talked about her online? Because you are. One time I did a Sheena Shea Hot Topics that were bothering me. Wait, all about her? Yeah, because she was in the news, and she was being ridiculous. What was it? I just know she doesn't like me. Oh, well, shout out Sheena Shea. I don't know. But like, whatever. You like her? I don't mind her. She's perfectly cringe. Okay. Yeah. You like a millennial cringe, though. You don't mind a little cringe. If it's done well. Yes. Yeah. Okay. You're like my millennial cringe. I'm very millennial cringe. Remember trying to embrace the cringe these days. I was thinking, I was like, have I ever said anything bad about Trisha Paytas? I wouldn't hold it against you. I say something bad about everybody, so I'm never like, you said something bad about me, how dare you? I probably said shit about, not you, but about everybody. Well, I kind of figured out who you were through Oscar and stuff. I knew who you were before that. Oh, I love that, Lord. But after I met you a few times, I was like, oh, you know what? She's really nice in person, so I'm sad she's going through all that. I love it. That's so cool. I always love how people find out about me because I always do want to know, and it's so interesting that it's through Oscar because Oscar, that's how we met, right? He reached out from Access, and I was like, why is this so cool? And he always kind of championed for me, and I was like, I've always liked him. Every job I've ever had, I'm like, I need to hire Oscar. He's the best. He's so smart. And he's so good at red carpet reporting. They need to use him more. He's so good researching everything, questions. He is the best. So then when I met you, because I came with the Heartbreak Tour shirt, I was like, did you come to the show? And you're like, oh, no, he says he's at the top of the show. You're like, you just threw it at me. I have a hole in it, too, but I was like, you know what? I'm just going to wear it anyway. This is vintage. I wear it to the gym a lot, actually. I love that. But I washed it, and I was like, I'm going to. No, it looks so nice. It looks actually really new, because I thought this would be coming off right now, because it's so cheap, the graphic and stuff like that. I went to none of the tour dates. No one did. Even my LA show, I had literally, I'm not just saying this, whatever, to be humble. It was true. Globe Theater, it had like 50 people there, and it's LA, right? So you think everyone would come, but I was best friends with Shane at the time. He didn't come. No one came to my show. Shout out Gigi. Gigi Gorgeous always came to my shows, but no one came to it. Oh, I forgot about her. I love Gigi. She's like my everything. I think she auditioned for Real Housewives, and I think another YouTuber, Rosanna Pansino, just said she auditioned for Real Housewives, too, that it was between her and, who's the designer? Rachel Zoe? Is she on Housewives? Oh, she is on Housewives, yeah, and she's kind of gag on Housewives. Is she? Okay, because I don't even know. She doesn't get into the drama, but she has a really good storyline. She's going through a divorce. Her ex-husband's being so annoying, and he is dating this girl, and her kids film, and her kids love her, you can tell. They're the most ridiculous names. Do you think everyone has to be a little, what's the names? Oh, God, no. It's escaping me. I mean, is it? Because, I mean, obviously, I have Aquaman and Elvis, and I'm Albu Barbie, so. Oh, I love that. They're real names, right? They're real names. People think they're aliases. They're on their birth certificates, social security cards, all of it. Honestly, though, no one's going to steal their identity, and you're thinking smarter and harder. Are you Aquaman? Yes, I am Aquaman. Yeah, absolutely. Is there anybody on there that is not problematic? Is there anyone that's just a nice, good person that everyone loves? I feel to be on Housewives, you have to be a bit nefarious. Yeah, you have to be. I love the nefarious word. That's your word of the day, and I love it. I didn't know what it meant, but now, from context clues, I know what it means. You're a little bit diabolical to be on Housewives. Diabolical, yes. Okay, so Orange County, they're all diabolical, too? Absolutely. Okay. But I'm friends with one of the Orange County girls. Which one? Tamara Judge. Tamara Judge. Okay, she's like an OG, right? She's been on for a while. Yeah, she was on it for, she's still on it. Oh, wow. She took like a two-season break, and then she came back back in like 20, like for season 17. Now it's season 20. Vicky's been the longest, right? She just came back, yeah. What about like the older, like the Bethany Frankels of it all and stuff like that? Oh, Bethany Frankels may be blocked on TikTok. I find her so annoying. Wait, why? She has me, okay, you know what's so funny? I love her. I made her know. She blocks everybody, though. Like, the last thing I ever said, I think, is that like we, as a society, have to stop listening to anything Bethany Frankel says, and then she blocked me. And the only reason I found out was because I was working at People at the time. And I would do, they had this like YouTube series called like People in, People in 10, I think, or something like that. People in what? It was called like People in 10, and it was like, so Bethany was talking a lot about Taylor and Travis. This was when Taylor and Travis were like in the midst of like the beginning of their relationship and they were everywhere. And they're like, can you go and see what Bethany Frankel was saying about Taylor and Travis? I was like, sure. So I go on my account, and I'm like, wait, did she delete her TikTok? And then I was like, huh, interesting, weird. And then I go on People's account and I was like, oh, I was like, Kim, I was like, oh, she blocked me. What did you say about her? Like, why did she block you? Probably because what I said, I was like, we have to stop listening to anything Bethany Frankel has to say. But also, but everyone was talking about Bethany Frankel. Like, she was being really, like a menace to society and really like a nuisance. And also, by the way, I'm not one of those people who started hating Bethany Frankel two years ago. I never liked Bethany Frankel on Housewives. Why did people start hating her two years ago? What's the change? Because she was on TikTok and she started this whole like reality reckoning thing as if she never benefited from any of it. So it was just like, she's just a hypocrite. She's a big hypocrite. She thinks she's the smartest person in the room. Oh my God, Bethany Frankel slander. And she's not not successful by any means, obviously. She has money, she does this, whatever. But she's just so desperado and it's like, so like, she's just like, oh my God. She's a know-it-all. She's an annoying know-it-all that thinks she knows everything about everything. And she says a bunch of buzzwords that make, she says, one time she was saying this buzzword, she's like, it's a zero-sum game and if you have a game that's zero-sum, then you can't sum up the game. She talks like that. And it's like, oh my God, shut up. Like, you do not, oh my God. I'm like, oh. You know what the one, the latest hot topic that kind of got me with her was the, because I actually, I like her. She was nice to me at Unwell. She seemed like fine as the shoegate, the one where she didn't like tag the shoe. Oh, and she'd be doing that. But, but, she was like, I was going to, the shoe sold out. So she's like, I found a dupe. So I feel like, I don't know, I'm not a Bethany Frankel defender, but maybe she gets a little bit of. But everyone's gonna be nice to you because you're more famous than them. That's not true. Not everyone's nice to me. Wait, especially someone like, who's mean to you? It's because you're more famous than them. You have your own. Than the housewives? You are more famous than most of them. Erica Jane was getting swarmed at that CAA pride party. I was not getting swarmed the way she was. They were all over her. But if you were to, but everyone, you're way more global than them. Okay, I'm not, let's not think Erica Jane. Let's think like, yeah, Erica Jane's huge. I want to think of like, okay, if Whitney Rose from Real Housewives of Salt Lake City walks into a room and you walk into a room, you're way more famous than Whitney Rose. I didn't even know there was a Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. Oh my God. They're like, you would like that show. Are they competing against the Mormon wives? That show is bananas. Wait, really? And it came out before Mormon wives. I never hear anyone talk about it. Their BravoCon panel was packed. Oh, okay. I need to get on this side. I do need to get on this side of it. The white girls love Salt Lake City. Yeah, no, they do. Lisa Barlow, you would love her. I'm friends with her. She's so funny. Lisa Barlow, okay. She's like the queen on there and all the girls hate her. She's kind of like the Taylor, not the Taylor Freaky Paul in like the domestic abuse way, but like in the sense that all the girls are jealous of her and everything she has going on. And she has music. She just came out with a song. It's called Baby Gorgeous. Okay. You're just baby gorgeous. But she's trying to be elevated. Who do you think is the best housewife song? Honestly, I tap my toe when I hear Don't Be Tardy for the Party. Oh, you know, Louisa has some good music. Is that Kim? Yeah, Kim Zolciak. You would be friends with her, I feel like. Yeah, I liked her. She was another one that was like foreclosed house and then not. She actually had money and then actually, I was like, I kind of love the whole storyline of all them. You know, it's like, I loved her wigs. I loved everything. I liked the, is it Countess Luann? Oh, I liked Money Can't Buy You Class. Yeah. And then she has Chic, she has Camp. I need to go. I guess, well, if there's ever a housewives music tour, I could go on there if I become a housewife. No, they would make you do it. You could perform at Watch What Happens Live. Andy Cohen, let me be a guest next time. I was a bartender and I was very appreciative to be a bartender, but I would love to be a guest. Although I'm not on Bravo, so. You're going to be. I'm manifesting. I would love it. Yeah. And then you're going to do Traitors, and you're going to do Answer the Stars, and then you're going to do. Then I can be on there as a guest. Then you'll be the host of Love Island. I would love, oh my gosh, if Ariana Maddox ever leaves, I would love to do that. What's a hot topic right now that you're, like, obsessed with? Like, you're, like, the hottest topic. Oh my god, obsessed with a hot topic I'm obsessed with right now? Is there anything, like, recent that you're like, oh my god, I'm obsessed with this? Obviously, what was the Love Island mess last week, Kenny? Oh wait, okay, I wanted you to explain that to me, because I, so I know. Oh, did I say it? Yeah, you're the one who was like, what's going on with Jadae and Kenny? And I was like, and I did kind of know. I didn't know, because I, first of all, I don't know. That's why I always need help explaining these things. Well, I know kind of what happened. So basically, they broke up, like, a year ago, or I guess, like, eight months ago at this point, because. He went on a podcast. I saw her. She was, like, in this, like, it looked like a Rolls Royce. It was, like, a sparkly, like, window behind her. She was, like, had, like, these sparkle lights. And she was, like, I've never been abusive. And then I just saw all my favorite creators reposting. Like, they were all, like, reposting it and supporting it. Like, we know, whatever. And then I saw him on a podcast being, like, she was abusive or something. And she's like, I've never been abusive. Like, what is he talking about? That's all I saw. Yeah, I guess he said some racist stuff to her in the relationship. Or she looked through his phone and found all the stuff saying that he doesn't really like her and doesn't like that she's black. Allegedly, allegedly. And so, I guess he went on this podcast and basically told a bunch of lies. And then all the people that were on Love Island with them who were on her side were, like, this is f***ed up. This isn't true. Like, you're a liar. And then he said, like, and then when we went to Cane's, and he was talking about Cane. Oh. Also me, though. I would never. I don't know how you pronounce it. Cane's. Cane's. Is it Claude? What is it? I thought it was. I actually, I think it's Cane. It's Cane. But it's so funny because Andy Cohen even commented, like, Cane's. Andy Cohen commented on TikTok? Yeah, on Instagram being like, he did not say it when we went to Cane's. That's so funny. Just raising Cane's on the street. No, but I guess I'm obsessed with, like, how people think Brindity is, like, better than Nicolandria. And it's like, oh, whatever. New winner? Yeah, they won. And I'm not. I think they're grifters, but it's fine. Oh, my God. Wait, what? I thought you, like, loved Love Island. I thought you were, like, all obsessed with all of them. I didn't love this. I didn't like the talent this season. Really? I felt like they were pretty good. Who's the one that does the clam slam that was on Call of Duty? Oh, Kenzie. She was cool. People loved her. Yeah. She should come here. You guys could do that together. I would love. I guess I need to watch it. I never got into it. I really need to get into it. I know, but you have, like, a real life. You've got, like, three kids. Well, it's up to you. You're busy. You're at every event. Yeah, but I. Where were you last night? Oh, I went to. Baseball game? It was, like, a soccer game for the We Are Angels City team. It was, like, a pride game for this, like, female soccer team. Did you get paid? No. I was invited as a plus one. You're always, like, partnering, hashtagging. I'm like, damn, you really are everywhere. I just started, like, really, really getting paid, like, a few months ago, too. Congratulations, though. That's all, like, really huge stuff, all the stuff you're doing. How many events a week do you go to? It's different every week. This past week was a lot. I probably went to, like, four events this week. I know. I was seeing you because you had your birthday, and then all of a sudden you were just, like, at another event, another event, another event. Well, and I was in Brazil before my birthday. What were you there for? I went to a wedding. It was, like, honestly the most expensive wedding. You go to so many weddings. I've only been to one wedding in my entire life. How many weddings have you been to in the past year? Because you just mentioned you saw. Who did you see? You saw someone at a wedding, and I was like, oh, who did you see? Oh, who did I see? Oh, that was Morgan Adams. Oh, Morgan Adams. That's right. That wedding was, like, two Septembers ago. How many weddings have you been to in your entire life, you think? At this point, I've probably been to, like, 11. I've been to one. I've been to Gigi Gordas' wedding. That's it. That's it. Do you have a lot of friends? No. But, again, that's. You do have a lot of friends. I feel like you do have a lot. I feel like you. I don't have any. You're going to make mom friends this year. Manifest that for me. Famous mom friends. We're going to get you in Ashley Tisdale's mom group. No, not that one. We want to be in Hillary Duff's one. Sorry, sorry, sorry. Yes. That's the one I meant. We need to get in Hillary Duff's one. You can do Hillary Duff tickets. They would never let me, though. They're scared of, like, Ashley Tisdale writing an article and me having a podcast every week. They're going to be like, hell no. Not this person in it. Because you know me. I'd be done. Isn't it so annoying how celebrities are so cautious now? Yeah. You have to be, though. It's like Wendy said that, too. Wendy Williams would always be like, you can't be friends with the people you talk about. The hot topics. Because it's like. I agree. I kind of like. Yeah. I get that. Yeah. And I get that, too. I feel like there's a reason. And that's fine. Because I. You know me. And I will, too. I will. I'll always hint. I'll be like, I can't really talk about butt. And I'm always, like, insinuating. So I feel like I would be the actual worst friend. I know. Because it's your whole thing. And then it's like, oh, I don't know. And I always share what we did for the weekend and stuff like that. So I'd always be like, so I was with this group. But I can't say who. And then I'd be, like, insinuating, OK, this person who was on TV. Like, I'd just be like. Looking at you just reminds me of every single YouTube star that, like, you surpassed. I don't know if that's true. I've been kind of under the radar. You and Tana are, like. You guys are, like, in your own. Like, you guys are the upper echelon of people. Stop it. I mean, that's really nice to say, but. It's you, Tana, Mr. Beast. Mr. Beast. Because who talks about PewDiePie? Yeah, he kind of retired. He kind of, like, retired and went under the radar himself. Because David Dobrik is kind of like. He's still having those parties, though. David Dobrik is still having a David Dobrik party. And getting sponsored. And, you know, I guess good for him, I suppose. He's on Snapchat. Are you on Snapchat? No, I'm grown. They banned me. Snapchat has banned me. They did not let me make another account. I'm not sure. Well, I heard with Snapchat is where the money is. I don't know if it's still like that. I think it was like that. Maybe it is. I know when people would come on this podcast years ago. Like, the Leo Skeppys of it all. And they'd be like, I make, like, six figures. Or whatever. I don't know. They make a lot of money. Not Leo specifically. But other people. They'd be like, I make six figures a month off Snapchat. And it's just like, damn. Like, I really should get on there. And then I realized I was banned. But then I realized I think David has, like, an in with the Snapchat people. I was going to be white. Yeah. But, yeah. Oh, so you think he's, like, blackballing you from Snapchat? Maybe. But also, like you said, I don't really care. I'm like, it's Snapchat. I don't really care. You're like, I have a podcast and a book. And, like, I have everything else. You're like, I'm better than you. No. No, and I think you are. Not me. Not me. No, I like to be under the radar for as much as possible. I just like to just, I just like to exist in the world. Walk me through your normal day. I mean, if it's the podcast day, it's, like, glam podcast. Chris Appleton comes over here and then he hightails it out before your guest comes. Chris Appleton. And you didn't save him for me. That should have been in my rider. Forget the car. Where's Chris Appleton? Do you like Chris Appleton? Yeah, of course. He's, like, I see him at the gym. Oh, maybe that's why the Kardashians don't invite me. It's not that I don't like him, but I am, I was friends, I am friends with Lucas Gage, so maybe they're like. Ooh, yeah. Bad blood. Maybe they're like, no. You know what? I don't know Chris Appleton. Maybe I should have been a podcast with Chris Appleton. Maybe that's why I'm not invited. He has a book to promote. You should get him on. I know his publicist. What's his, what's his book called? I don't know. Oh, it, wasn't it something pun? It was, like, something like a pun, like, your roots don't define you. Oh. I think that's what it is. Is that a pun? Or is that just, like, a Tumblr quote? Well, like a pun because he does hair? I don't know, like a little. Oh, your roots don't. Right? Maybe. It's not a pun. It's something else. I don't know what that's called. Yeah, that's a pun. Your roots don't define you. Yeah, I guess a little bit. But, okay, so sorry to Chris Appleton. Because I think I said one time, too, that he didn't have a good reputation to it with his assistants. But I don't know. I don't know. Don't come for me. Chris Appleton, I love you. If I can be with the Kardashians, like, I love you. So Chris Appleton comes over. He does your glam. And then what? Tony, shout out Tony Winterhans. He does my glam. And then I do some content. You came right on time. So usually, like, in the morning, I'll, like, get some content done. Because days, like, Mondays and Wednesdays, we do the podcast. So, like, my mom or, like, we have help with the kids. And so then we can get all the stuff done. But Tuesdays and Wednesdays are for the kids. So we usually do, like, kids' activities. They have dance class. They have tumbling. They're on summer break right now. So it's a little different. So we can go do, like, an activity with them. And then Fridays are usually, like, a day that I can go do stuff. So I'm recording, like, my audio book on Fridays where I have, like, stuff that I got to do. Which what happened last weekend was is I got canceled on for this thing. So I had the whole day to myself. I didn't know what to do. I was like, oh, my God. I had, like, child care, all this stuff arranged. I'm like, what do I do with my day now? You go to a spa? Well, I have to be productive. If I was at a spa, I would feel, like, really bad about myself. Although, that's what my husband said to me. He was like, you can just take a day off and rest. And I was like, no, I hate to do that. Go to HomeGoods. Treat yourself to a shopping spree. Go to the mall. I do not need more stuff. When was the last time you went to the mall? Could you go to the mall without being bombarded? Yeah, because no one goes to the mall anywhere. So, like, no one's there. It's, like, dead. Oh, yeah, it's dead. I ate lunch there, actually. Yeah, because my friend. Where at? Okay, that's so random. Love that. Well, we went there because my friend. So, she grew up in West Hollywood, but she also grew up in the Valley. Her dad lived in the Valley. Her mom lived in West Hollywood. So, she was like, I'm going to show you, like, my Valley stomping grounds. And then she took. So, she grew up down the street from Dylan and Cole Sprouse. And she'd be like, this is where I saw their dog. And my dad saved their dog. And he, like, helped them. Wow. And she was like, yeah. And then she said she met one of her friends. Like, because they were in this Dylan and Cole Sprouse, like, group. Okay. Like, message board. You know, she's a little older than me. Like, you know, message board or whatever. Are they older than you, the Sprouse twins? They're, like, 33, maybe. Okay. And I'm 31. Well, whatever. Like, you know, internet. Like, MySpace. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel you. Yeah, like, whatever. I grew up in that weird, like, era. Like, see, I was young enough to have an aim. Like, old enough. I'm sorry. Young enough to have a TikTok. Old enough to have had an aim. Did you have an aim? What was your aim name? Fresh. Farai. Fresh with three H's. Farai X. Oh, I love that. Yeah. Mine was Blonde Sundell 4MJ. And that's why my YouTube channel is Blonde Sundell 4MJ. Because it was my aim. Blonde Sundell what? Blonde. B-L-N-D with no, no, uh, what are those consonants? Vowels. Vowels. Yeah, vowels. Vowels. There was no vowels. So it says B-L-N-D. You want to do homeschool. Well, I would have a teacher come. I'm not. Trust me. That's why when you said you went to college, I'm always like, damn, I'm already intimidated. Like, I'm already intimidated. But people think it's Blind Sundell because there's no vowels. Yeah. And so it's Blonde Sundell 4MJ. And that was my aim username. And then it just became my YouTube, and still my YouTube name. And everyone's like, what does this mean? I'm like, I don't know. It's just, like, a name that I had. Because you had some crazy things because everyone had so many, you know, usernames. I had a lot of, but that aim account was, like, special to me. Did you ever keep the name? Did you keep the email associated with it? Yeah, it's, I don't want to say what I use it for, but yeah. Now I want to know. What do you use it for? It's just, like, ****. Okay. Yeah. So you've had it for a while because I kept my original hotmail that's associated with it, too. It's just, like, it's, I'm, I don't even know how to change it. It's just connected to, like, things. Everything. It's, like, everything I use, like, Apple, but, like, not, like, if I get email, like, not professional emails or anything like that. You direct that now to your agent, professional emails. Oh, yeah, I do. But then, like, there's, you know, I get, like, Dick's Clearance Sales spam emails to my actual email that I use. Yeah, I do the same thing. I know. My email, too, I, like, never, it just has so much spam because I have a hotmail. My original one is hotmail, so that's got so much spam. Oh, vintage. It was associated with my aim, so I always kept it. Same thing with phones. I always tell people, like, their phone numbers to always keep it because you always need that code. I have the same one, yeah. Yeah, you always have to. I change mine, but I always keep that one phone with my old phone number because just in case, you know. I've had the same phone number since, like, eighth grade. I can't change it. You never change it. No. You never get, like, harassed or. It's an easy number, so even if I did, I block them. I have. this crazy guy who was calling me though like uh a couple weeks ago off no caller id and i literally was like i'm next to a cop can you please and he would call me in the middle of the night being like hey baby how are you i'm like who is this and when he do you think it was for you or you think it was mixing someone up like he thought of someone else he was calling i was with my friend one time and she's like it sounds like he relapsed and he's like on drugs or something like that and he thinks you're someone else so then i was like can you not i'm next to a cop and he just hung up and he just he hasn't called me since oh my god it's very much like those tiktok trends where it's like okay use this if you're in the back of an uber and it's like hey baby like i just got out of prison like i'm gonna go and pick you up or something that's that way the uber driver's like scared of like whatever conversation you're having i'm a waymo girl now really unless like you know what brand says we have an uber code for you but like because it's a black so it's like you know less disarming like what are you gonna do to me right oh my god wait is that a thing so that like if there's an uber black it's like they're well they give you like um like a voucher and then like i get an uber but uber blacks are more like sophisticated like you get in there's water and then like you know you can tell them to talk to you or not and they can still poison that water they could still put some stuff in the water well i never drink the water but the water's just there you know you know to make you feel comfortable like why would i drink that i'm not drinking the water i don't know where it came from i know that's why i was always that too so the waymo is no driver and you feel safe uh extremely you got on the freeway with the waymo um once yes with my friend it was at night which was crazy i haven't done it since though but um that's so scary the ones i've gotten in alone just like mean roads oh my god but i love it but the thing what i don't like on my street i live on this really big hill it won't go up the hill you have to meet them at the bottom of the hill so that's kind of what's annoying and it doesn't go up yeah and it doesn't if you live in like laurel canyon it come to like those like hillside homes or stuff you have to like meet them somewhere so you have to be like yeah if you're going somewhere like within the city like it'll drop you off in front of it we don't have them out here we don't have waymos out here you don't know you never use the app well i haven't seen them like when we were in santa monica at benihana we saw a bunch of waymos oh okay because you have a spinner yeah we don't have a spinner here so i was like it is crazy it's such a wild thing it's like a cute little jaguar you can play your own music so like they have like this weird like soliloquy that plays but you can like connect it change it you can play like whatever song so one time my friend was like i never went in a waymo before and i was like let's do it and we played like gunna all the way from like west hollywood to santa monica no way that sounds so scary yeah you can like blast it and it's just like a vibe like and i filmed tiktoks in there because it's like well who's watching me probably somebody but are you doing one in waymos yeah i have a couple i've done in waymos yeah so you're like hot topics that are bothering me and you're like you're just in a waymo yeah yeah yeah i totally got it i was bitching about kyle richards in real house of beverly hills in a waymo one time i was in what's your beef with kyle richards the second time you brought her up oh i don't have beef with her i just feel like so she okay here's so she is so she separated from her husband of like 27 years mauricio there's always been like rumors that he like cheated or whatever but like he's gay right no no he's not gay he's with every girl on the planet honey oh really okay but she was seeing this while it's up in the air she was having this kind of relationship with morgan wade that she has like she has alluded to that it was like a relationship i think she's afraid of coming out as lesbian but she's not i don't think she's lesbian i feel like this woman i thought she was i thought she's bi kyle richards well she never really said she was bi she just said like me and my daughters had a talk about this and like but she never really said anything she never says anything about her real life and what's going on the thing is she would flaunt morgan and i think to make her ex-husband jealous and then the next season came along and people would ask her like so what's going on with morgan she's like out of respect for morgan i'm not going to talk about it who's morgan morgan wade is like this defunct country star who everybody knows now because only because she's with kyle richards and now morgan's like well i don't want to be associated with their show but it's like but no one would know you if you weren't with kyle richards oh i see i see so they try to like okay but yeah but kyle's like but for her identity and it's like but but you already had her out there yeah yeah and also it's like and everybody knows and they're paparazzi together she goes to her shows like and i think like so i don't know i just feel like morgan wade came into her life at the right time so i don't know beef kyle richards i'm sure she's a nice lovely woman yeah i've interviewed her a couple times she probably doesn't she probably remembers me as much as you do literally we didn't really you were okay yeah anyway i have no beef with kyle richards i just want her to like she just doesn't talk about her life or what's really going on in her marriage so it's like weird so you're just like more but she's like you know og darling like everybody loves her yeah we said the stylist and you always said she was really nice i don't know anything about her but yeah i'm sure she's so nice she seems and paris hilton's mom's on it too right she's kathy yes we love kathy kathy's one of the kooks i was talking about oh she's a kook she's a kooky girl so satan's a kook jennifer tilly's a kook and kathy's a kook and i like satan and i like kathy but jennifer tilly's like too much of a kook and i'm like we have too many kooks too many kooks in the kitchen yeah we need more glam dolls she's also a rb spokesperson i always see her do like brand deals with rbs oh yeah so does lisa barlow oh i love that i love am i spitting on you everywhere i just realized no not at all not at all i wouldn't even know but anyways it's fine if you do because it's very broadway well you have toddlers you have three two and one i'm getting spit on all the time but i didn't didn't even notice at all no i did it i i love rbs i do a lot of brand deals with rbs and then i went and did like a little like meet and greet with rb not meet and greet but like i did like a little uh speaking engagement at the rbs thing and they're talking about how much they love kathy hilton and paris hilton and how like naturally integrated they like love rbs because rbs gets a lot of slander especially on tiktok i do too and tiktok there's that trend again tiktok trend is that need to die there's a trend going around where they're like in the office and the client is gonna buy us lunch like what do you want like where are we getting and they're like rbs and like oh no no thank you like they'll say like no to free lunch and i was like it's rbs is so good so it's so annoying but the only fast food place i don't like is carl's junior interesting they just sponsor david dobrik's party maybe no i agree with you not to be a carl's junior hater i used to like it back in the day used to have star chicken nuggets and um now it's just like not as good they have good french toast sticks but that's about it i feel like their menu is just really random like it's like rbs has their like it's like chicken yes the beefs their meats they have the meats they have the roast beef sandwich and mcdonald's has like you know they're like the fries i love mcdonald's mcdonald's fries i think are the best fries i think mozzarella sticks are the best at rbs uh buffalo wild wings has really good like wellness oh my buffalo wild wings is where i'd go after like football games like we'd like all eat what did you do in high school what do you mean like sports yeah did you sports did you play i ran track i was bad at everything else you ran track are you still good at it like if you did a track meet like would you be able to i oh dude i wasn't even good at what they see so what did you do in high school what did you do in high school what did you do in high school one of three black kids at the school like i was good for that standard but then i would verse other schools i'm like oh i am not i'm not shikari wait so what is track it's like running or is it the um oh well so track is like it's a bunch of different events so like you could be long distance you could do hurdles shot put yeah you could do that but i did like sprinting i didn't do hurdles i just did sprint so i do like a 100 meter sprint are you fast i was then and i like tried then i want to do a little we want to do a little track meet and i because i try and run again i used to like not even do them you are running right oh my god i've been seeing all your running videos i love running and it's like my new favorite thing and i would love to do a little like sprint that would be kind of fun i'm not like fast we should do a video where like who's so fun do you go running first of all anyone's faster than me a turtle's faster than me right now but are you really fast that would be fun i don't think i'm as fast as i used to be but like i can run for sure where do you go like where do you go running um on the treadmill equinox um i'll see you there i have an eminent equinox too you are yes i do my pilates equinox you don't want to talk to yourself i'm there friday at 9 a.m i do pilates fusion or pilates matt you know what i was in my pilates class on friday and um not everyone showed up to this girl's class and she's like oh wait all the advanced people are here we can make this harder and i was like are you an advanced person are you like standing on the machines i can't stand yet on the machine it's all mad equinox oh do you do the private reformer wait really yeah all reformers yeah do you have one where you can go to any of them because i only belong to all of them because west hollywood is flagship and they make you join all of them because west hollywood's a flagship so they make that's like the marketing ploy it's like honestly like i'm so capitalist oh my god that is kind of crazy but at least you can go to any of them now if you're traveling i know that's well no all only the ones in la oh so you can't go to like new york or something no are you traveling a lot oh yeah i'm on the plane i'm always late to my flight always you miss a flight nope you've always made it no i've been flying like for years like i used to i used my aunt lives in london a lot of my family members live in london actually and so on during the summers for the full summer i would go to london for like three so like i used to fly alone like this before 9-11 the parents used to be able to go you would be with a bunch of kids yeah and you would have an escort and like you would board the plane first and then like everyone else would like d-plane and then you would like d-plane last like whoever so before 9-11 i remember i would always cry before i left and literally i was on the plane my mom's like i'll be right back and then never came back but like were you not traumatized from that oh i'd be so traumatized no i kind of knew she wasn't coming back like i just knew i was like you're not gonna ride on this plane with me like eight hours being right back is crazy that's like i think that okay i had trauma too my dad would say that to me before he would like leave and i wouldn't see him for like six months so i have trauma so anytime i leave now my kids like will be really sad and cry if i have to go on a plane but now i just have to tell them because like that was like the most traumatic thing is like when my dad would be like i'll be right back and then i wouldn't see him for a year and i'm like where's daddy like it's like so sad oh a year okay yeah so she only really did i think she did it because she knew that would get me to shut up and then once i got there she knew like it's gonna be fine i think you know trauma that's good i had trauma so every time to my kids i'm like okay mommy's going on a plane and i'll be crying but i'm like but i'm coming right back and well that's annoying because when i travel with my parents like they try to tell me what to do and i'm like shut up like i know how to work an airport put me on this alone yeah like i know how to get through here like i am paying attention like don't worry like are you close with them now yeah i've always been close with them yeah okay so only child so you're just like okay you're best friends with your parents which i think is kind of cute yeah i mean we're you know we have a vibe i love a one and done i think for so long the stigma was like you can't just have one kid like they have to have a sibling so it's like you feel pressured to have like a second kid but tick tock is very i'm on mom talk where it's very like one and done one is chic like have one kid one is chic i will say yeah you kind of can like travel the world and just do a bunch of stuff i don't know if i'd have one myself i'd probably just have two and that's it oh that's interesting wait why because like as an only child you're close with your family you got like all these opportunities um i think like one is just like you have a buddy like i don't know i feel like even though it worked for me like i don't know if i'd want to i feel like it's a lot to entertain an only child okay that's the thing did you wish you had a sibling no when i was younger like first when i was like four five six maybe but not really got older I was like no because then my cousins would tell me all the things they have to do they're like we have to do chores we have to do this and the things they don't get I'm like oh sharing yeah are you a good sharer I've gotten better about that over the years okay originally not I'm still you know what when I love you I love you I will share everything with you but when you expect me to share I'm like I don't have to do that I'm like such a sharer yeah I'm just like we're so ingrained to like share that I'm just like take it like if you're here you're like I want this I'm like take it so much like you want that take take whatever you want yeah I'm such in a mood but like when you expect something from me I'm like well I don't really have to do I hate when someone tells me what to do I'm like I actually don't have to do and people you know what's so funny people feel indebted to that like even in real life they're like well I have to do this because they are like I was like you don't have to do anything and I always tell my friends I'm like you don't have to do that like you don't gotta do it so I love that and that's what being an only child teaches you like I actually don't have to do that I don't do anything you say that's so funny so you didn't want a sibling but for as a parent you would be like I need someone to entertain yeah I don't think I have the patient I my patience is not good that's so interesting I will say I will say that part is kind of cool like they kind of just play with each other and you're kind of like oh this is kind of nice yeah I needed a lot of like attention I was like I was always like and were your parents always entertaining you yeah at first but then I found ways to entertain myself and when I was growing up I lived in this neighborhood where all these kids we all lived on the same street so like I would like run home change out of my uniform go play with them like did you go to private school why were you in a uniform I went to a catholic school for a while yeah oh are you still oh well to be honest I didn't we I didn't grow up like religious I just kind of went there for optics I see yeah just because they were like well we lived in Boston at the time like oh I see and like you know that's just what you did and then me and all my cousins like went to the same catholic school whatever and then like but then I would come home change one time actually my dad was home and he fell asleep but I would run home and I would change and go hang out with my friends because we all went everyone who lived in the street we all went to different schools yeah so I would come home and then I changed and then I went home and then my mom called my friend's house and was like where have you been and I was like she's like did you even go home and she's like go home and change right now I was like I changed I went home she goes your dad said never came home he came home and I was like I did he was like I told him and then I think he was just asleep oh and then she was like huh and then she was like okay nevermind and then she like hung up and I was like she thought she was like I literally was gonna call oh my god they just didn't see you come in or what he he heard me come in and I woke him up and I was like I think he had come home early or something and I was like I'm going here and he was like oh okay and then I like so I was like I was like we fully had a conversation I was like later I mean I kind of love that though did you have cell phones growing up uh yeah I got a cell phone in like fourth grade that's like that's the biggest gap of our generations like we had no cell phones until I was like 18 well I was always doing stuff after school and both my parents had jobs so it was always like and also like I wanted one like and then I had a sidekick for a long time oh my in school oh my gosh yeah like eighth grade I was so obnoxious my sidekick teachers hated me oh I put that as everything though to have like a little sidekick in school you were like because I was very Paris Hilton too she had the oh it was so chic were you always trying to be you guys said hosting you said you saw Juliana Rancic and you're like I need to do that were you always trying to entertain it yeah I just didn't know what I wanted to do I told myself I want to be a Disney Channel actor but honestly I was too shy you would have been a great Disney Channel actor oh my gosh I wish I grew up in LA you still could you get young you still could be literally like but the Disney Channel is not like what the Disney Channel is like back then when you're on Disney Channel like you could do everything that's true but now it's your own Disney Channel it's like I don't know if it's still around Descendants I guess I love Descendants yeah but like no one talks about it like everyone knew who's Zach Vanessa Ashley everyone knew that did you do a self-tape recently was it on Instagram or something or no I can do a self-tape no okay I thought someone's like getting back into acting when people want me to act everyone's like you should be an actor you never acted you never did audition okay I thought I saw something I did like Disney Channel auditions when I was like in middle school oh okay but like you know when they would do the big casting calls like I would do that okay and I would tell nobody anyone so you never into acting you just want to host more so well when I realized what I was good at which was like talking trash I was like oh I can do that so if you had a podcast it would be would you think I guess it's kind of what you do like talking sub stack it's kind of like you're a hot topic yeah we do like a hot topics like and it doesn't have to be like all celebrities just like it could be about the sinkhole it could be about like whatever that's what I love about your TikTok to you guys to check them out like your TikTok is really just like whatever you're doing in the moment you're like this is how I'm feeling this is what I'm looking and you're like you are just out there like boots on the ground everywhere just be like here I love it I was at Coachella and I was like on one of the rides at Revolve and I was like hey guys like I was like oh my God uh not embarrassed you ever get like shy to do it in public like to film in public or you don't care no no because everyone at Coachella and Revolve is doing it what about like in the sinkhole though you're just like literally across the street and you're like no because I'm in LA and also I'm in like I'm I'm in the Mecca of content creators where that area is like so I'm like I still get a little shy if it's a public I'm a little shy if I'm at the gym I get like weird I'm always holding it down here if I have to film I'm like I'm gonna film like down here and like not show yet but I also feel like people like you'll see the like I don't know and now I'm just kind of like whatever I used to be that way yeah sometimes I get weird in front of my friends really but they know this is what you do and they know but it's like sometimes I feel weird because I feel like they're expected and then I fumble in front of them and I'm like I get weird I would get right they're not judging me I just get weird because I feel like I have to over perform for it okay interesting that's what I wonder because you are so high energy when you are just like by yourself I do live alone yes when you're by yourself at home how are you um is your mind running a million miles a minute or are you ever like okay I need to decompress I love to be outside of my home I just I like to be at home when I want to be at home but like I just like to keep myself busy out and be social and yeah I like to be busy like oh you know sometimes there are days where I'm like okay I'm gonna stay home today and then someone will be like let's do this and I'm like okay I don't even think twice I've always been like that though always my whole life going extrovert something oh no you're good I mean that's a really great way to be I'm very much the opposite and I kind of wish I just had a little bit more of like wanting to be around people and things but I like I enjoy it when people come over this is my socializing like when people come over I do enjoy talking to people I get so excited I feel like you talk a lot in your house though I do that's why I was asking you because I am very much like how you see me online so I wondered if you were the same way because you know some people David is a good example they turn on like hey guys like happy to be and then you see him and they're just so like David like wouldn't want to do anything he's like just not fun I don't want to go to dinner I don't want to do this I don't want like but on camera it's just like and a lot of those people in the group would be like that and you're just like damn people really do just flip a switch and they're different that's true I've met some people like that too yeah and you're like it's weird they're just like such a dud and then as soon as the camera comes on I feel like YouTubers aren't like that though that's true I would say like Alexa Oakley like she's the exactly how she is in person like which I've done she's super nice she's super super and she's exactly how she is online I think Tana's exactly how she is online I guess you're right maybe more tiktokers I'm trying to think what other tiktokers I've met well tiktokers are a different breed than YouTubers I feel like they have energy well also they're younger and just yeah I guess like you remember the OG class of tiktokers like teffy tinks yeah yeah um obviously Chris Olsen yes I have never met oh I haven't Chris yeah they're all very nice um no he posted a video of finding out that his boyfriend cheated on him diabolically and he's like he was at the Gracie Abrams concert when he found out he recorded it and then it made it in the news and his ex and his ex-boyfriend made a statement because their whole thing was like he was private he never really posted him but then he's like oh whatever like I'm posting this because like cheated on yet again like so you know what I mean or not cheated on yet again I don't know if he was cheated on last he did say he did say twice he was cheating on because he also said then he goes I think I'm the problem because I'm the problem because I'm the problem because I'm the problem because I'm the problem because I'm the common denominator I'm like oh my God I feel so bad he gets a lot of hate too and I always feel a little bad for him because I'm like maybe the gay on gay hate I'm sure I don't know he's so nice yeah he's always very nice to me I always like just content too but I feel like he gets like a weird hate train people like you're annoying for like no reason I know that's how that's what it is being gay in America oh my God it's allegations on allegations like you don't even know me I think if you're like a like a conventionally unattractive gay you might get more like ability don't even get me started on that I have a whole dissertation on it I I do be feeling like the unattractive gays are getting the world of course because I always miss running I always miss the era like I always like I missed the 2007 era where I could have been a reporter and been in my bag yeah and then like I missed like being tick-tock famous in the beginning and then like now I'm in that like all the unattractive gays are getting the world and I'm like yeah do you ever think about making yourself less attractive because no matter what I still get pretty privileged yeah and pretty privilege is so real and like you said no matter what it's like the Taylor for you Paul's like everybody is like they still get like Chris Olsen they're still getting it you know what I mean like but that's why I feel some people are out to get me because they're like you'll figure it out that's what they love to say you'll figure it out well that's why I don't want to lose too much weight because I think there is that like you know um non-threatening when you're a little bigger it's like oh she's she's fat it's fine and that's true you know and then you get skinny and that's like oh but now you have your core audience yeah I'm not too worried about it now but that's why I like to be in my little my little bubble but sometimes if you're just too attractive you know I know it sucks yeah but wait but there's another attractive influencer getting everything I don't know oh well she well see if you're a girl that doesn't work I think I have a guy let me think of a hot influencer that gets everything they are usually straight is it I'm trying I can't even think now I'm trying to think yeah you might be right I'm like yeah no I am right yeah I would name names but I don't want to name them because I like them it's hard to be a hot guy it's hard to be everyone thinks that you're up to no good yeah that is true but I also feel like other gays see right through me okay what do you mean tell me explain I don't know maybe like there's something they see in me that they like are just like like I'm I think you're just a little fake yeah I'm like I can be a little like really not to you but like you know sometimes I'm like sometimes I'm just gonna like okay I think you're just so outgoing and like that can be um yeah people might just be like oh I wish that was me I wish I could be that you know what I mean so they might feel a little but just be that we're here for what reason you came to LA to like do nothing that's true that's true I guess people who like can't be that some people can't be themselves some people can't be outgoing and but you know I have a lot of tools Journalist college degree I know no and that's that's where you and Oscar have that winning because it's so hard to find where it's like you have yeah you have the background the intelligence like the but also the fun and the pop like it's hard to have all of and the personality and the looks so you're a triple threat and so i love juliana though that's crazy that's the hottest thing you've had that's the hottest thing you have she is a mess i love juliana i know she's been through a lot but she's also been a mess she was messy boots back in the day oh because of the patchouli oil with zendaya yes amongst other things she was my queen though and she's still kind of my queen she picked you know what's so annoying about the juliana rancic though i told you before i was like i moved here being like i'm gonna be juliana rancic and then i came here everyone's trying to make juliana rancic and i'm like no one wants to be here well juliana rancic isn't even juliana rancic i just i told you before we started i was like oh she's about to a podcast on jerry o'connell like who even cares and you're just like she has a podcast and you love juliana rancic i did not know she had a podcast at all she's gonna do a 40 minute one on jerry o'connell because jerry o'connell responded to a question a reporter asked about her memoir that brought up him and she was basically saying he was an awful boyfriend and that he had a girl up there and broke up with her over the intercom on like and you know how new york has those intercoms and he broke up with her but then the reporter asked current in current day her memoir came out in 2015 the reporter asked jerry o'connell and jerry o'connell was like yeah i was a boyfriend and that pissed her off and she's like she's like on a vacation and like war war or something she was guys just wait for my 40 minute podcast i'm like girl we don't need a 40 minute podcast he just admitted he was a horrible boyfriend wait for my 20 minute video and go there go to friday and filter everyone i love the name i love the podcast i think you should be doing one of those videos and i'll see you in the next one bye bye so funny check them out on tiktok fry bennett everywhere i'm so happy for you and everything and you are like just like an actual star and i can't wait to see like more stuff you do you're so good and you're so smart and i'm happy to see you again for our third time meeting it's been wonderful and thank you for having me thank freya the wildwood witch for i didn't know she had a name freya the wildwood witch yeah she's great guys it's really working and you're going on to even more things we love you so much and i'll see you in the next one bye bye love you so much and yes you have a podcast you have another podcast to get to so we better like let you go yes i have another one you are booked and busy and i'd love to see it all right check them out everywhere and you guys will see you guys next uh on the next hot topics this was great