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'Talladega Nights' With Craig Horlbeck, Danny Heifetz, and Danny Kelly

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'Talladega Nights' With Craig Horlbeck, Danny Heifetz, and Danny Kelly

This rewatchables episode explores the cultural significance of *Talladega Nights: The Ballad of Ricky Bobby*, a 2006 comedy directed by Adam McKay and starring Will Ferrell. The discussion highlights how the film became a defining piece of 2000s comedy, noted for its absurdity, relentless humor, and iconic lines like “If you're not first, you're last.” The episode emphasizes that nearly every scene is quotable and funny, with no drop-off in energy, making it a timeless comedy. Will Ferrell’s ability to play multiple athletic, over-the-top characters—NASCAR, figure skating, e-sports—demonstrates his unique comedic versatility. The film’s enduring legacy is reinforced by its influence on pop culture, including the viral phrase “If you're not first, you're last,” which predates its internet meme status and echoes in mainstream conversation. The discussion also touches on the film’s supporting cast, including John C. Riley, whose performance is praised as one of the best in comedy history. The episode reflects on how Ferrell’s era of prolific, high-energy comedy has not been matched since, and how the absence of a clear successor underscores his unmatched influence. The rewatchability is further cemented by scenes like the baby Jesus dinner, the bar fight, and the final foot race, all of which are cited as emotionally resonant and hilariously memorable. The episode concludes by noting the film’s cultural footprint, including its role in inspiring Jay-Z and Beyoncé’s song “Ape Shit,” and its influence on internet humor and generational slang. Despite being a comedy, it is celebrated for its emotional depth, improvisational brilliance, and lasting appeal across decades.

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The rewatchables is brought to you by the ringer podcast network where you can find the ringer fantasy football show with us three Craig Horlbeck. I'm here with Danny Hifitz and Danny Kelly. He's got two first names. Oh, I knew that was coming. Well, anyway, Talladegan Heights, the ballot of Ricky Bobby is next. This episode of the rewatchables is presented by Mazda. One reason why Mazda was named Consumer Reports safest new car brand. Confidence isn't an upgrade. It's a given. Take the Mazda CX 50 hybrid. It comes standard with a suite of proactive safety features. Mazda, move and be moved, visit Mazda USA dot com and discover how confidence comes standard. Consumer Reports does not endorse products or services visit Mazda USA dot com to learn more. All right, guys, 2006, this movie came out August 4th, 20 years ago, directed by Adam McKay, written by Will Farrell and Adam McKay, starring Will Farrell, produced by Judd Appetow, made a bunch of money. Everybody loved it. What a time to be alive. Goddamn. Take it back. That's seriously. America really did used to be built on hot badass nasties, you know what I mean? And we're not anymore. Eleanor or she was talking about Eleanor knew what she was talking about. I guess we can start here when this movie came out. Did you see in theaters? How old are you and what and and where did it kind of fall in the Will Farrell ranking at the time? And now. I've got 26. So I feel like I got to experience this the most because it was, I'm sorry, not 26. I was 24 in 2006. Just I graduated college and yeah, it was awesome. I feel like in that era, it was just every year or even like a couple of times a year, they were coming out with these. Get your butt to the freaking theaters and watch this because it's going to be the best thing you've ever seen type movies every year. I'd say this is like that near near the height of Will Farrell's powers, maybe not absolutely high. I was right there. But yes, I remember just being so excited to go to the theater, see these movies. It felt like every movie was simultaneously more ridiculous and had longer titles. Like the subtitles of these movies are always just crazy. The ballad of the body. Yeah. Yeah. I think stepbrothers was going to have the title, something about the Catalina wine mixer was going to be in it. Oh my god. And they decided to pull it. Yeah. Well, the funny thing about these types of movies I feel like is you and I were like 12. Like I didn't see this in theaters. I'm assuming you didn't either, or did you? I think I did see it in theaters, but I was not allowed to see Anchorman in theaters. So I saw this movie before Anchorman because I think there's a big difference between being nine and being 12 or 13 or whatever for Will Farrell movie. This is the defining comedy of my childhood. This is number one. This is the number one. I don't know if it's the best comedy made in the 21st century, but it's my favorite. And probably it's the one I've seen the most. It's funny. It's, it's, it's, I was shocked at how quotable it was going back and rewatching it. I've seen this movie live 20, 30 times, because I didn't see this in a theater, but it was just a movie that was on all the time. I had the DVD and you can just throw it on whenever every scene in this movie is funny. Like, I think there are some comedies where it dips and there's like 20 minutes where it's like, Oh, they're building the character. There's an art coming or there's the action scene at the end of the movie. Literally every scene of this movie is funny and has iconic quotes. It's pretty remarkable with pace is unbelievable, totally in this movie. They literally just are like, all right, you always talk about this, like, make movie shorter, but there's no filler. There's no backstory. They just are like, kid, we're dead. He's a NASCAR. He's a driver. And he has everything. And then it just, it just absolutely rips. And then I was also amazed how many of the funny stuff is like the first 50 minutes. And also the back nine is way funny that I even remember. And that's like the hardest thing to do in a comedy. Usually the last third is the least funny. I don't really feel like this movie drops off a whole lot. Not like pancakes. It's not what you mean. Not like all exciting at first, but by the end you're fucking sick of them. I will note, like, so high fives, you said this is your favorite Will Farrell movie. It is my favorite Will Farrell movie. Is that, would you say that for you Craig? It's really hard. I know Anchorman and stepbrothers are probably more beloved and more quoted overall, but when I think of comedies, I think of Will Farrell, but when I think of Will Farrell, I think of Talladeganx. Yeah, I think when this movie came out, I think it's grown more now. I don't know if people, when you ask them name the best Will Farrell comedy, I don't know how many people say Talladeganx, I think they would say Anchorman or stepbrothers or maybe old school. Yeah. He's like a side. Yeah. But I would probably say Anchorman or stepbrothers, but I agree with you, this movie sticks with you. It's aged beautifully. Like all of the jokes still play. The acting is great. The supporting cast is phenomenal. Oh my god. Yeah. Like the awards that all of the supporting cast is won over the years is like crazy. And they pitched this movie. It's funny. There used to be a category on the rewatchables and flex category. That's not there anymore called what is the five word pitch of this movie? McKay and Farrell actually did pitch this movie without a script on six words. Yeah. The pitch was Will Farrell as a NASCAR driver and Sony, they're like sign up, cut the check. Yeah. From this is from Farrell's agent. There was a great piece in the ringer written by Jake Kring's Sh rifles about an oral history of kind of like Will Farrell as a sports movie icon. Talladeganites. And from Will's agent, he said there was no movie. There was no script. There was nothing. And Sony Greenlit the movie. I don't know if anyone's ever done that in history. Yeah. Is it like a ringer pod equal one of that? It's like Chris Ryan smoking cigarettes, ranking zero. Yeah. So far. I mean, what pitch would it have to be? Let's talk about Farrell and McKay, who kind of one of the all time comedy duos. I think in my head made more movies together than I thought, but it's really only four. I also was surprised going back. I want to say eight or ten. And so it's what? Anchorman. It's Anchorman one and two. So like if you combine those, it's the Anchorman franchise, it's Talladega, step brothers and the other guys. Those are the only movies that McKay directed that Farrell acted in. McKay also did the story for the campaign and get hard, which starred Will Farrell, which are two movies I have not seen actually. I think it's hard. Yeah. I forgot the campaign. It's Kevin Hart and the campaign is with Zach Alfonakis. Right? Never seen the campaign, actually, I don't think a political satire, but McKay didn't direct those. So it's really only four movies. It's Anchorman, Talladega, step brothers and the other guys. In the two of them, you know, they were buddy, they were hired at SNL on the exact same day. They became great friends. They started Funny Your Die, which I don't know if you're one of the first videos I remember seeing growing up was the Pearl video. The landlord? The landlord. It's a meat, which was McKay's daughter. Right. Oh, really? Yes. Oh, my God. Which was like one of the funniest. That was like the very beginning. You need to settle down for the internet videos. Yeah. The Funny Your Die, when I was a remember, we always, it's the Batman one. For Batman. It's sleepy time. Oh, yeah. Peahomes. In order that would surprise you. Asmeth Edge. And they started Gary Sanchez, their production company. So yeah, I don't know. They split up in the late 2010s, which is a lot of interesting history about why they split up. It's been written about that it was basically McKay, wrote and created Winning Time, the show about Jerry Busce, Lakers, and Farrell wanted to play Busce, and McKay didn't want Farrell and picked John C. Riley. Oh. Oh, shit. Yeah. Which is crazy. And McKay has spoken about this in interviews and is like, yeah, I didn't tell Will. I should have. And I kind of like fucked up the whole thing. And I get it. And I get why he's upset. It's crazy. Did they ever make up? Uh, I mean, I don't think they've really worked together. Again, maybe they've been like producers on things, but I don't really think so. Why would you not want Will Farrell as Jerry Busce? They's basically Ron Burgundy, but just older and wealthy. Also, like if he, like so many more people would have watched that if Will Farrell was playing Jerry Busce. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It never ends well. You know, you, you, you always, you have like a 10, 15 year stretch and then it, it's hard to keep these things going. In general, with comedy, I feel like we can talk about Will Farrell now. I think he's the most influential comedy figure of the 21st century, probably not a hot take. Mm hmm. I think he's also the last great American comedy star, probably comedy movie star. I mean, that's kind of what I was saying before is like if he's in a movie, I'm going to it. That's why they were able to sell this movie without like, with no script or whatever. Yes. For basically like 10, 12 years, it was like whatever Will Farrell's doing, I'm in. Yes. Since, since he kind of entered a different part of his career, no one's really taken the mantle. It was like Melissa McCarthy in the 2010s. I think had a couple big movies, obviously, Brad's made them like spy and eat. Um, what about Seth Rogen? Yeah. I always felt like Seth Rogen himself was not the, like the Will Farrell style draw. It was more about like the ensemble, the concept, like the Apatau gang, what brought you in. And I was like 14. It was like, I, I want to go see Will Farrell. He can do any character. Rogen is not really doing characters like Will Farrell shameless pandering to you. No. Okay. This episode. Okay. But Will Farrell actually, to me, is like the Steph Curry of comedy and that he somehow has the highest three point percentage, even though he's also taking the most threes. But he just made a lot of movies. And you're right. And there's like a way of like the same way, actually, the Steph Curry misses you can't just forget about. And you know, like we literally forgot about the campaign and get hard all those. kind of get like, it doesn't get punished for it, but it's kind of like the way his style is just actually making jokes, where it's just so many jokes that you end up with like gems, but that was kind of the style with just you just cranking out movies. I don't know who, like right now, you could say Tim Robinson's trying, I think he's really funny and I think he's kind of even trying to do the same character style of like the cocky idiot, the underqualified overconfident guy, you know, but his style is just more niche. Yeah. Yeah. He also just doesn't have the commanding presence. Do you think this is maybe just like too simple, but Will Ferrell is huge. Yeah. He's like a big man. And also, I think he, like you can tell, he played sports the way he moved. Like he can pull off an athlete. He did so many sports movies. He can pull off an athlete, even though he's obviously not super athletic anymore. He can move like it, like he's done it before kind of deal. I don't know if anyone had sort of the actual physical gravitas that he had, maybe Vince Vaughan, who was, I think one of it, like maybe one of his rivals in terms of like biggest comedy stars, that era Ben Stiller was quite a bit smaller, but it's still at a physicality to him. Yeah, he did. I do think athleticism and like frame body control is like one of the more underrated parts of being good at comedy. Yeah. You go, like you look at guys like Balushi and Candy and all these guys who you look at him and you wouldn't think anything of them. But they're also, they're like secretly very athletic and coordinated dudes, even the big guys have the like the Trent Williams athleticism. He wouldn't know what their shuttle time is. Great footwork. And it matters. Even Jim Carrey, like they all know how to move their body because comedy is half physical. I was reading about Will Ferrell was like closely connected to USC during the P Carol era. Yeah. And he like went to one of their practices one time and put on, you know, like full, full like pads and how and everything was like running routes. They're like, who the fuck is this guy? And then he took out his home like, oh my god, it's Will Ferrell. That's the thing about Will Ferrell is like the ubiquity is it's almost hard to explain now. How much he was always putting out a movie, but he's always doing weird stuff. Like he was an usher at a Lakers game. He was doing stuff like that. I forgot. So I read that Jay Gardicle and the ringer that he did that. I want to play nine positions in a baseball game or 10, I guess, technically. Oh, right. And then I was like, I forgot that he went to 10 different or five different teams to play because he was like only going to do two positions, but he's always doing some kind of viral stunt. Yeah. So he was just always around doing stuff. And it never feels forced with him. Like it's all love of the game stuff. There's, you know, there's kind of like the Bill Murray lore. It's like Bill Murray showed up at my dinner party and blah, blah, blah. Ferrell's the same way, but it doesn't feel performative. He truly just does it because he thinks it's funny. He'll just show up and like do that. Yeah. The Lakers game where he dresses as a security guard, but he's like not trying to go viral. I feel like he just. He just loves jokes. Yeah. It's a good bit. Yeah. You talk about Will Ferrell playing sports though. He might be the comedy sports star ever. I mean, he rattles off kicking and screaming. Talladega Knights blades of glory and semi pro in four years. And it's kind of like after die hard, when they just started ripping off die hards. And it was like die hard on a boat under siege. It was kind of like Will Ferrell plays it. What's for it? Will Ferrell plays sports. Yeah. Totally. You could just get away with that for five years. I mean, after they did NASCAR, which, you know, is they were like trying to be careful not to be making fun of it, but NASCAR is very like has a spot in an American culture. And then they're like, what how can we top that? So we're going to do figure skating. Like the what I mean, what would be like the next sport that you'd want to see him do that's even like more ridiculous than this? I was looking at his IMDB and his upcoming projects. It says, and this was part of the interview on the on the ringer piece that they're kind of they've like bounced around. They've basically gone through every sport and they're like, what would be the funniest? Yeah. It says he has an upcoming e sports comedy in the works. Okay. But then the log line is like exactly what you think. It's like we'll Ferrell plays video games. It's like washed up former athlete thinks he can get back into the game with e sports. It's like every other story. Yeah. But sure I'm in. I mean it was doing golf right now. He's doing the hawk on Netflix. I do want to read. I just want to read Ferrell's run from 0 1 to 2010. And just how unassailable and ridiculous it is. And we'll probably never see this again in comedy. This is what he does. Some of these are supporting roles and some of these are lead, but still it's worth mentioning all of them from 2001 to 2010. He goes, Zoolander, old school, elf, anchor man, Starsky and Hutch, kicking and screaming, wedding crashers, Talladeganites, blades of glory, semi pro, step brothers and the other guys. All of those are actually incredible and still funny. I would say five of those are among the most iconic comedies ever made. At least for the 21st century or people in our generation. I think it's crazy. It's about that list is the fifth funniest movie on that list is probably the other guys, which has some of the best jokes I've ever seen in any movie. Super underrated. It has to be the most underrated Ferrell movie. I don't know if people were just like getting sick of it by then, but that movie is I just watched it the other week on a plane. It was amazing. He and in the movies that you mentioned that he is a minor character or sort of like a extended cameo. He is arguably the funniest person in that movie and some of those like the move got to in Zoolander. Thomas and Austin Powers too. He makes a brief. Yeah, and he's the guy who's like, I'm very fat. I'm glad you're here. Hold on. I'm very badly burned. Yeah, that's the thing is not only can he lead a movie and dominate it. He's the Dion Waiters every time he shows up for 100% like Chaz. What's his name and wedding crashers? He's Chaz. What is the most best part of a wedding crashers? He's the best part of Eastbounded down. Yeah, when he's just basically just showed up and wanted to make Danny McBride laugh. I said, no, let the boy watch the boy watch the name in all these movies. I have it written down. They must have spent so much time fairly McKay and they know how to name a fucking movie character. Man, like all these are just off the top of the head. You know it. Ricky Bobby, Ron Burgundy, buddy, the Frank the tank, Chaz Michael Michaels, you have Dale and Brennan and Jackie Moon. I'm glad you brought that up because there are so many times where I'd neither know, I just never know the character's name and I just call them by the actor's name. Yes. And they somehow have Will Ferrell be really famous, but we call him Ricky Bobby. It's something whenever we do rewatchables and I'm watching like Bill, Chris and Sean, I'm always so impressed at how well they're able to remember the character's names and they can speak about them as the characters. I'm always like, oh, yeah, when Gwyneth Poutro does this. Yeah, yeah. But you don't have to do that with Will Ferrell movies. Frank the tank. Yeah. Frank Ricard. Yeah, it's perfect. Blue. Just everything. Yeah, boy, blue. Also, they just almost make yellable names. Ricky. Yeah. Like it's just Rick. Rick. Johnny was supposed to be Rick. His name's Rick. So I step it on the category. We'll get to that later. I do want to talk about though, this always happens with the comedy. It's hard to sustain. Yeah. It just is after the other guys in 2010. Here are the next movies he did from 2010 to basically 2020. So he does step brothers in no way. He does the other guys in 2010. And then he goes on the office in 2011. Oh, right. Remember that. He replaced Wow, right? Angelo Vickers. Totally forgot about that. Which I loved the office. I never loved seeing Will Ferrell though. I really want to be on the air. I like Robert California more than most people. I didn't like on the office to be honest. It was a classic. It's like every time they do it when like Charlie Sheen leaves two and a half minutes like to send the show. But he does the office in 2011. He was 44 years old. And then he does the campaign. He does Anchorman to get hard daddy's home, Zoolander to the house. Daddy's home to and homes in Watson in 2018, which was officially I remember when that came out. And I was like, Oh, wow, Ferrell and Riley are back. Yeah. It didn't work. And I remember thinking if they just didn't do British accents, the movie might have worked. I was like, this is taken. I was a great take. I'm like, if they just didn't have the accents, it probably would work. The list, you reading that list reminds me. I just saw an interview with like 50 cents the other day where they're like, are you making new music? And he's like, no. He's like, I got a lot of money. He's like, I'm not able to make rap anymore. He's like, what am I going to talk about doing the laundry and like, filing my taxes? It's just hard to keep going. I think, you know, it was around his mid 40s when it started to taper off. And really when he got into his 50s, the list is very short of comedy movie stars in their 50s still crushing it. So he was 38 when he filmed this. I looked it up because I was like, I can't, I can't actually figure out how old he was. He's kind of ageless. He plays like a 20, he plays like someone a little bit younger, I think, in the movie. But he's always kind of doing that. I never, Ferrell always just seems like 40 to me. Yes. He has been. He totally 40. He does have the Bill Murray thing. Where Bill Murray looked, he looked old young, 45, 48 years old from 30 to 60. Yes. Well, also, I always like that. Ferrell, like, never cared about taking a shirt off. He was never super in shape. Didn't care. I would always like poke fun at it. He's huge, hairy, super tall. He has that weird, like, crease in his belly. He doesn't get. I don't know where that's coming from, which is also a huge part of comedy. He's just leaning into it. Ferrell's great. Just because I think he had the, the, it at least felt as though he was comfortable with other people being funny with him in movies. He didn't need to overpower every movie. Yeah. He really surrounded himself with other people who are super funny, like him having a, like a counterpart. And most of the movies he did, whether it's like John C. Riley or, or, you know, like the crew and anchor man, I kind of respect that it's like, you said Steph. It's like, Steph was okay with having clay. And I think Will was fine with like being able to play off other. You need needs clay. Like you need someone to actually reach that level to actually, I mean, I think he needs a John C. Riley. Totally. You can see it in all the bits to like Craig said, he's not trying to overpower everyone. He's like built like as they're going through scenes, there's so many scenes in this movie where you can see them just on the verge of cracking up. Oh my God. Every time, like the knife in the leg scene, I mean, there's enough out there. Oh my god. I don't know why there's no one helping. Don't you put that nice in your leg? It really is a no skips movie. Every scene. I was trying to find the weak link and I was like, I can't. I don't have one. I don't think there's a scene you can cut because even if you could say, maybe like, you know, the grandma teaching the kids how to, but I'm like, that's great. All the Gary Cole stuff is great. Can we do a weak link right now? No, no. Just to your point though about the fall off is, ironically, Will Ferrell went on the shop with, it was LeBron and Maverick Carter and our coworker here, Rich Paul. Right. I consider Rich Paul and my colleagues. We're basically colleagues. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Same level. And he literally just is like, Will Ferrell says, I don't make films. I make movies. Yeah. He's like, films are nuanced and planned. And we kind of just show up and we're like, yeah, I want to rehearse, man, let's just go. Yeah. And I think that over time you run out of ideas and I think the perfect example of that is Anchorman, too, which I think everyone wanted to be good. There's that stupid thing where they like, or in a lighthouse with a shark, the shark. And he's like pretending to be blind, but he can see. I'm like, that's just the Talladega paralyzed scene. And it's like he just, he did 15 years of uninterrupted, incredible ideas. And then he kind of just did them again in the next movies. Yeah. That's interesting. Like my, my brothers-in-law are in their 20s and, and one's 25, one's 28 and the 25-year-old, his relationship to Will Ferrell is not as strong as I thought. Like, there are movies I could pull up. I'm like, oh, have you seen Talladega nights and he's like, oh, maybe, I don't know. Wow. And it's just so shocking to me that that I don't know. We're just in such a weird place now. I don't know what it's been. I mean, here and there, there are good movies popped up like gave nights great. That was a 2018 and book smarts good. And I remember when blockers came out at the end of the 2010s. John Cena. Yeah. And I, if that blockers was okay, but we've been in such a weird spot and no one's been able to replace Will Ferrell. And I think it's made me appreciate him even more and I think it's made this movie and this run age even better because there's just, you, it almost seems unfathomable now that there could be a star that could be doing this where every year they're in a new movie and all of America's going to see it. That's what I wanted to ask you about is, who else could do this? Like, is it Shane Gillis? Like, could Shane Gillis do this again? I think it's Shane Gillis, although, I don't know, I think what Ferrell is able to do is like, he can really play characters. I know it's kind of always doing the same thing. But Ferrell's ability on SNL as a, as a, somebody who could just like morph into anyone really works. I don't know if Gillis has that. Sometimes the stand-up becoming a huge movie star, it obviously works sometimes. But I don't know if I can see. Like plays himself and everything. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think it would have to be him though. Like, even he's making a TV show right now on Netflix tires, which is really funny. But he's just basically being himself. Right. And I don't know if it's like Shane Gillis is a ping pong player. Shane Gillis is a cook. I kind of think people would go see that though. I kind of think it would work. Well, he's like, the most famous comedian in the world and it would have to be him. I don't really know who else would be doing it. Like I said, Tim Robinson, I think it's Tuneesh. Yeah. And outside of that, there's no crew. Like the Ferrell, McCay crew, Stiller and Owen Wilson and all of them. And then you move to Apatown, Seth Rogan, which became like, even more improv heavy. And it was just like stoner, stoners in a room improvising. And then after that, once we got to like, this is the end, whatever it dissipated, no group has replaced them. And now we're just in No Man's Land. I do think the Tim Robinson parallel with Ferrell though is, and maybe there's probably a bunch of examples of this. But in that era in the 2000s, 2010s, even, we communicate like my friends and I communicated through movie quotes. Like we could do an entire conversation. It's just, just movie quotes from Will Ferrell. Yeah. I think Anchorman was huge. And I think like Tim Robinson is kind of similar to that, like we, so many Tim Robinson quotes, the memes, he is really, really memeable. And that's like become part of, you know, there's like guys or whatever, like we just talk up. I haven't even seen, I think like all of I think you should leave and I still quote scenes I haven't seen. Yeah. I got to figure out how to make money on this. Yeah. There's a new Marvel movie out that's supposed to be nuts. I totally agree. Right. And to that point, I actually think if you deleted all the Will Ferrell lines from my brain, I don't think I could have a conversation with my friends. I don't know how to communicate with other men without this without Will Ferrell. Yeah. It is weird now. Do we just become best friends? Yeah. Like memes are becoming bigger than the source material, you know? Yeah. I have not seen that many episodes of I think you should leave. And yet I know like 50 quotes. Yeah. The hot dog, the 55 burgers, 50, like all that stuff. You don't even have to have seen those, those episodes and you get it. I think you're here for the zip line. It's just so odd that that's where we are. It's like almost like now, how they say how many followers you have is less relevant. It's just like how many views the video gets. Yes. It's like in TikTok, it's like it doesn't even matter necessarily if you have a million followers or 10,000. But you're right. You can get the quotes in the cultural water without actually having digested it. Yes. Like I think you should leave. I don't know how popular it is. I think it's relatively popular. Maybe more cult-following. And like it's more memes or ginormous and everybody knows the memes, even though people may be didn't see the show. We're all trying to figure out who did this, you know, like the hot dog. I haven't even seen that scene. I don't think I've seen the zip line thing. Oh my God. The zip line thing. I've seen the 46. Is it Ronnie? I haven't seen the full thing. Yeah. Ronnie, I think you're just here for the zip line. He's like, what? And then it's like the make these guys, like he broke it. He's like shut up, Mike. Anyway. This movie is John C. Riley, who, one of the best character actors ever, can do drama and do comedy, has worked with like PTA and Martin Scorsese, and then just slipped in and became Will Ferrell's number two, kind of like Jeff Daniels with Jim Carrey. And honestly, he's kind of like Cal Noughton to Ricky Bobby in real life with Will Ferrell. He's the number two. I mean, how do you do it? Clearly, the real life thing, like what you're saying about the winning time thing where John C. Riley gets to be Jerry Buss and Will Ferrell freaks out, that's literally the will of you win. Yeah, yeah. How am I going? And he's like, yeah, you're right. I think Adam McKay, like thought that through, it was like, I want to try this in real life. That's a magic man. Now you see him. Now you know, David, it's actually awesome. Yeah. Yeah. And Riley got his shot. I mean, after Talladega, he gets, he gets walk art, which I know you, I really, I mean, didn't that, like, hard as hilarious? Didn't that kind of pause all those music movies being made for like 10 years? The way Austin Powers changed James Bond? I never, yeah, I never had a stronger relationship to walk art. I didn't do very well. And I think it's why John C. Riley didn't really get another, like, lead comedy role shot. I think that was it. He didn't really work. And then they kind of like, he went back and did stepbrothers just a little bit too much full frontal penis in walk hard for people's taste, maybe I don't know. I think it's a classic. I actually watched rewatch it like a month ago. And it still holds up in my opinion. I'm cutting back. I'm cutting half for the back. I'm like, the weep scene. The weep scene is, you don't want any of this shit. Well, it's expensive. It's the cheapest drug. There is. Yeah. The movie also has Sasha Baron Cohen, Jane Lynch, Gary Cole, Amy Adams, Michael Clark Duncan and Molly Shannon, elite supporting cast again. No misses across the board. Check my prayer. 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There's driving and then there's driving with peace of mind, knowing you're behind the wheel of consumer reports is safest new car brand Mazda. But more on that later, all right, most rewatchable scene. You guys know the drill, right? I'll go through all the scenes and then you pick your favorite one at the end. Sometimes people don't know. Like that's that's mine. Hold it. And then we'll get to that. All right. All right. Opening title card, not a scene, but Eleanor Roosevelt quote, fucking sets the tone. Yeah. I know exactly what I'm getting into. Like, honestly, that's the quickest tone setter I've ever seen. I'm going to get the entire ethos of the movie with just a title card. Yeah. Three little vignettes to start the movie, the birth and the car, the kids stealing the in class or at the grocery store. And then Reese Bobby at career day is like these three tight little vignettes you get you're if you're not first your last um And then we get the Ricky as an adult. I don't know what to do with my hands. And then he starts winning montage We get I piss excellence Car handle real good The guy just like very gently like touches just put him back That's just stuff that like you just that says not in the script. I just love that Car in real nice. You get the Ricky Bobby's got two first names The owner the Dennis. Yeah, I want you to who what's the football comp there? What's the NFL owner comp with the owner of Dennis and then the son taking over? He's got to be Jerry and Stephen Jones is that yeah, you might be right But then who is Ricky Bobby to Steve Jones? You got a good question Ramos the layup, but I mean, do we have is there an al Davis? Mark Pretty good. Yeah, microwave John Crudin Not bad. Um, we have the dinner scene Yeah, where we we we meet Walker and Texas Ranger My beautiful car as we call I don't know there's a supper's been ready for hours. I've been slaving over this for hours Access perfect dear lower baby Jesus Leslie bib is great. Yeah, um, I love the way he's talking to you chip You brought this on yourself chip. That's what happened when I see Kai speak up to hyphids. I said I don't I love the way he's talking to you Hi, you brought the heat She said I have a lumpy butt And then I said fuck you and she yelled at me and I pissed in my pants There's so many of it this scene is one of the more iconic moments of the movie. I was trying to do your lord baby Jesus eight pounds six ounces Newborn infant Jesus don't even don't even know a word yet I like to think of Jesus in a tuxedo t-shirt. Hey, cow, why don't you shut the hell up? Yes, ma'am That relationship's great. Uh, I'm all jacked up on Mountain Dew. I'm coming at you like a spider monkey It's there's just a remarkable amount of quotes in this I threw grandpa's war metals off the bridge sounds like a good day Dude, you know that the meme like I'll put it in the Louvre. Yeah literally this scene made ape shit a thing Oh, I'm the way shit on the way shit on your ass. You know what happens a few years later Jay Z makes a song with Beyoncé called ape shit And then to film the music video in the fucking Louvre with the Mona Lisa You think saying ape shit in this movie inspired Jay Z Yeah, I mean think about uh watch the throne literally starts by clipping blades of glory. Yeah, one song one song only like That was a jets of Jay Z Kanye song and then we'll starting with a Will Ferrell movie and then two years later They make a song called ape shit. Is that a half-ass internet research or is that just your opinion like did you Strong theory I do not think that Beyoncé and Jay Z make a song called ape shit without this movie Wow, and they literally filmed they shut down the Louvre at night to film there. Hi fits invented the piano key necktie. I did Um, I don't think that's true, but I like to think I like to think it's true. He has really good happening I'll ask Rich to ask Jay Z and then maybe we can get an answer Honestly, we're we might be closer to him than we think right degrees of separation aren't that many Um, many seen I love Ricky Bobby winning the race in reverse Which would just be like the biggest story of flipping them off I don't know that was just fucking cool. I Do they go that fast backwards? I was wondering that I don't want to step on the Vincent chase Can they go as fast backwards as they can go for it. It's not like I don't want to step on the Vincent chase Are they good at the job? But all the other race car drivers in this movie suck. Oh, what are you get it really? I mean imagine losing a guy who's going back. I'm just saying It's not here. Ape shit was invented in the 1950s But I think he said that what the fuck did you google it? What do you talk? I was I was curious He said it inspired Jason. You were alive. Did anyone use it in terms of the 90s? Oh absolutely. Yeah I feel like it exploded after this movie. It's like I never heard of this movie This says no gas-powered cars cannot drive as fast as the first although Cars have the physical capability to do so. Oh wow, so eat that No fucking chance Um, I like that many scenes. Then we get the bar scene where we meet John Gerard Right, and I love um one of the music's playing and what's his name's like Oh, no, he's like his brain's about to look like making him short circuit Profile in jazz John we meet John. He breaks Ricky's arm We get the the crepes really thin pancakes him drinking the beer sideways What he's like you are disrespecting me Don't don't do it Ricky. These colors don't run. I don't whole mess a crepes this morning. Oh, oh man That's another quote that we used to say I don't More than very thin bank. It just could come his fair compromise. No, he compromises immediately I feel like John was reasonable in that scene actually super reasonable how he breaks his arm He gave a compromise dude really compound fracture. I mean, he just if he had just said really thin pancakes it would have been fun Then we have the montage of john winning we have Ricky's crash Yeah, um, and then we have the hospital scene which I feel like is the next Uh kind of keystone scene of this movie where we have I hope you both have sons Handsome beautiful articulate Articulate and they have to let him get away from them No, it's like no, no, no, no, no, he needs to know Beautiful articulate son. I have to take you. It is unbelievable. I can't believe he chose that word. Yeah, you know It's improvised too. How many times have you I feel like for me it's 10,000. I was like, don't you put that evil on me? Oh my god Yeah, it's one of them. I put top five quotes from the movie. I would say yeah Even though the brief scene where he's in the wheelchair playing basketball and he's kicking people I think he gets up and takes the ball Random line that staves his youth like the first time you watch it's like you know all the you know first or last But the line that I actually cackle every time He's like Cow's like psychosametic. So you mean he can start a fire with his thoughts Don't just like no It's just on his head. Yeah Uh, you get using the second knife to pry out the first knife cut around it around It's maybe one of the funniest. Yeah, what it makes when it goes to like the squish is it when he like bangs the second knife in Hammer it's crazy. I think I had to watch that 70 times until I go like that. They're in a hospital It's really good. I'm paralyzed. You are not paralyzed. I'm not paralyzed. Don't you stick that knife in your leg? Well, he doesn't have the noise it makes it's like a squelch Um, so then we have kind of Ricky's fall and then we have the wife swap scene or like the family swap scene Oh god, which is I imagine like kissing his like the Walker and Texas Ranger on the head as he comes there playing a game together That's like me coming home week 8 after Luther Burton is officially a flop and Liz is just with hyphids And I'm like what's going on? And she's like sorry, Kristen Watson was a better person. I was gone for three hours Luther Burton was hurt for one game Ricky your marriage was a hollow shell Jenga Everybody got his arms around the kid She's like this marriage has been over a long time. He's like no, I honestly did not know that did not know that You reckon my life we get magic man. Now you see me now you don't um Many seen that I love is when cow calls Ricky at night. Oh, from Ricky's old house so great, and he's like When you have the stereo turned on and the TV how do you handle the volume? And he's like why do you want to watch it listen? I didn't TV because I liked the party He's like obviously Why am I talking to you man? That's like a mantra is like all right. I'll call you tomorrow. All right I feel like I think I never even noticed until like this time is these I think your house is haunted. He's like it's not haunted isn't he wasn't there? Yes, he probably was That I do always watch these apatel movies and I'm like man They're actually a somehow three amazing they have three hours of the year old that they just didn't oh yeah I mean like there was like anchor man They had enough for a second movie right all these movies. I feel like the first cuts are super long Anchorman I'm convinced that it was supposed to end with the bear Smelling the menstruation which they had like literally set up perfectly But then the bear almost killed somebody and they were like we're done. I can't do that anymore. That was jelly the bear Three more applebees And you get the kind of the first or last realization which is Sad which actually hits when Reese is on the street and he's like hell Rick guys how and I said that Hell you'd be seconds third fourth even fifth he can be me fifth It kind of hits. I like how the dad just gets itchy anytime It's like even close to Harmony in the family. I gotta start fight I gotta start being mean to somebody. I know. I thought I feel like when my family's playing a board game and everything's going fine I think this is more anarchy. Yeah, he's just like you know what fuck it you guys are cheating And then it's like no we're not and then it's in a fight. He is Reese's litter the most outlandish character I've ever seen, but then he just has that one line is like, I don't know what bone people have that makes him act right. But I wasn't born with it. I'm like, that actually is all be cutting. That's a thing. That's a thing. Apologies. I missed a scene. One of the best. The other I've like the pantheon scene is the Cougar Reese Bobby getting rich. Where'd you get a Cougar? I trapped it. We're feeding it, son. We didn't hope he's a cops are coming. There's a Kilo, a Colombian band band under the car. What are you doing? Get me a hair on your pages or what? I love real simple, son. Gary Cole is great. Okay. We have that. We have that Amy Adam speech, which I have to imagine would be Harrison Bucker's favorite speech a woman could ever give in a film. It includes the lines. I'll read it for you. Harrison Bucker would love this. You need to rev your engine. You need to fire it up and you need to grab a hold of that line between speeding chaos and you need to wrestle it to the ground like a demon cobra. And then when the fear rises up in your belly, you use it and you know that the fear is powerful because it's been there for billions of years and it is good. And you use it and you ride it. You ride it like a skeleton horse in the gates of hell. And then you win, Ricky. You win. And you don't win for anyone else. You win for you. And you know why? Because a man takes what he wants. He takes it. Oh, you're a man. Aren't you, Ricky? Aren't you? Ricky Bobby is not a thinker. He said you're a driver. Yeah, Bucker's isn't. I've talked to you like this. Flex category, the Harrison Bucker award for speeds out. Yeah, speeds that would make Harrison Bucker see it. Kind of an amazing moment. Amy Adams just comes out of nowhere. She I didn't realize now that like she wasn't really famous when this movie came out. All right. No, because I'm like, why is she in this movie? It's an incredibly small role. She did catch me if you can. She was like the brief love interest three years before that. And then she did a movie called June Bug that she that she wrapped on when she booked Talladega Nights. So she ended up getting an Oscar nomination for June Bug. But she that all happened while Talladega Nights was happening. So I'm not saying she wouldn't have taken the role as she had been an Oscar nominated actress. But it was like right as Amy Adams was about to take off. Um, you always joke about the glasses ponytail. It's funny to literally just see her glasses. She takes the glasses off. Let's her hair down. Fantastic scene in the bar. Oh, amazing. We better get it on right now. Everybody turn around. Look away. We're making animal sounds. And then we have the final scene, the final race, the foot race, which I have to say, I got chills. When they start running on foot to the finish line, I would you immediately get chills. You're just a Swartz fan. That's uh, it is moving stirs the soul. Uh, so what do you got? What's what's your watchable DK? Well, can we add more? Oh, sure. The commercials and commercial bloopers. Yeah. I have that for my whole time. The things I just enjoy. Yes. Yes. Butter my ass things. I just enjoy fake ads and commercials. I mean, fake ads and movies are just they always work. Yeah. Yeah. I literally have the same thing for that category. It always works. Just these. Nothing for Christmas like the jack hawk 9000 jack hawk 9000 holidays are just around the corner. We're going to give you a loved one and the jack hawk 9000. Yeah. Available. Jack hawk. We're competitors on the racetrack. Well, we want to talk to you about something very serious packs of wild dogs control almost wild, vicious dogs controlling most of the major cities. If you don't you big red then fuck you. I have said that one million times of my life. And dude, I, and I know like it probably has an age grade. When he's doing the prune candy. Yeah. Right. When I first was a 13 year old, that fucking killed me. Yeah. Through the fig dude. This sticker is dangerous and inconvenient, but I do love the news. Bodies that look so good. You want you're going to want to talk to it. He's from a creedies funeral services. These bodies get look so good. You're going to want to talk to it 98% of people will die at some point in their life. Did you guys? The original. The original. The, well, so those, I think some of the lines you're quoting are not in the original. No, the best bloopers. Those are during the end credits. Yeah. Yeah. And the end credits. I they're just kind of playing in their cutting between the snow. Snowblownness and cats. Scares to live and shit out of us. I would, I would love nothing more than to watch Will Ferrell do fake ads for like seven hours. I think the best scene. It's hard because like you said, every scene is great. My favorite scene is probably the dinner, honestly. The dinner and grace. I want you to do this. Grace. Good. The dinner. The, yeah, the grace, the baby Jesus. Six pounds, seven ounces. Never known a word. He had a beard. He was a man. He had a beard. We do that all the time. I know we say that probably once a week. I think he was a man. He had a beard. I'll make the money. I picked the Jesus. Dude, I think this was the money. $21.6 million. Oh, I think this was the most quoted scene of my childhood. I think that's right. It's got to be up there because you have, I'm going to be on your ass like a spider monkey. I'm all jacked up on mountain two. Thank you Lord, baby Jesus. Like if you just kind of go down the line, like the amount of quotes that I just are just stuck in my brain from this, I think it was the most quoted line until I mean, I guess maybe things later, but I don't think even my friends were even quoting Anchorman or as much as this movie. It's a good call. It could be up there with one of the volume wise, the most quotes of any scene of in the 2000. Yeah. Quotes per minute. Quotes per minute that still stick to this day. I love the way he's talking to you, Chip. Yeah. The Tuxedo t-shirt then. Dude, that one is, he's like, I picture Jesus and it's a Tuxedo t-shirt because it's like formal, but I like the part. It's like Leonard Skinner's just hammered. And I'm just hammered. Big ego wins. How did you shut the hell up? Yes, man. He's like, like a changeling, like a, you ever seen "manimal shaking" swing? It is really good. I mean, this is like the perfect example of that era where they would do 18 different takes of a line and just like see what stuck so funny. Taco or Domino's KFC and he always delicious Taco Bell. I didn't even remember that he had sponsored the grace. We have contractual and obligated to mention the upcoming flavor. I don't know what the flavor was. Blue power. Blueberry Mountain Miss. Yeah. That's kind of a new level of sponsorship. I didn't know it was possible. Grace is having to do sponsorships in the privacy of your own home to adjust your family. I mean, that's like guerrilla marketing right there. To spread the good word. Yeah. So do you have the dinner the dinner? I think it has to be the dinner, but I do want to shout out the bar scene because I think the bar scene is sneaky, actually unbelievable at how also how funny it is because the whole like, what if France ever give the world is like democracy, existentialism and limonaja to a lot of some good things. But the other one is just the craps. He's actually really had mess craps this morning, but also the just the conversation into the bar where they're like, yeah, my grandmother her birthday's coming up. I don't know what to get her. She's turning any fives get her a coffin. I love that. That scenes in the movie doesn't need to be there. That was great. That was my that guy. We'll get to that one. Yeah. Yeah. But I think it has to be the grace. I agree. It's dinner. It's supper. It's supper. It's supper. It's ready. Slaven over this for hours. I was slaven over this for hours. Okay. Today's most rewatchable scene was presented by Mazda and the Mazda CX 50 hybrid, which I literally drive myself. I drive that exact car. Wow. Which comes standard with a suite of proactive safety features. So confidence isn't an upgrade. It's a given Mazda. Move and be moved. Consumer reports does not endorse products or services. Is it Mazda USA dot com to learn more? You actually do drive us in that car. Actually all the time. It's a front seat back seat. Fantastic. Great car. Okay. I knew category in the in the spirit of Bill Simmons and spring it on you without talking. What is the number one enduring line or joke from this movie? What has lasted culturally the longest? There's a kind of a category called like the 4chan get most giveable moment. But but what do you think? I don't want to do that the gift. I want to do just like what is the quote or moment or joke or anything that has culturally lasted the best? If you didn't first your last maybe. It doesn't make me laugh anymore. But I think that is the quote that has lasted the longest. I would agree. I would say first or last the hands thing. I don't just do my hands because like I feel like everybody. Don't reference that. Yeah. Don't you put that evil on me Ricky Bobby. But it's got to be first. If you're not first your last is now just a part of the lexicon. Yeah. People everyone knows that quote even if they don't know where it came from. Right. Like a like a Tim Robinson meme where it's like I haven't even watched the show. If you're not first your last I'm almost like. Man that sounds like such a like a common quote. I can't believe this movie came up with that. Like is that the first time that has been uttered if you're not first like like Marcus Aurelius. No, it was actually. No, it wasn't. This was one of my facts. It was actually a playoff of Vince Lombardi. Really? Yeah. He basically said. I mean in more proper English, I guess if you're not first your last. It's like basically the winnings the only thing that matters. And then and then Vince Lombardi said, I'm a big hairy American winning machine. I wake up at the morning. I'm the best or I'm the best there is. Did you find that online or did you just remember? Yeah. I found that online. His famous quote was winning isn't everything. It's the only thing. And I think that was kind of turned into if you're not first your last. Did McCain Farrell talk about that? Or is that something that you connected the dots on yourself? No, I think this was like on the just random backs I found. I don't know. I agree. It's if you ain't first your last. Okay. What is the most 2006 thing about this movie? That a great time putting this list together. It was excellent. Hi, if it's what he got. There's a few, but I think You have to start with the next telepatch, like dude next - Well, I couldn't even remember what they did. - Cell phones? - Cell phones, but just that is just such a specific era. - Sure. - The other one is just at the end, something I totally forgot about is the son who takes over the team. He's like really trying to get Haliburton to sponsor the car. - Oh, that's why I put that down. - Haliburton references. Haliburton was like a reviled company in that era. - It's like Dick Chady's company. - They're just like late stage capitalism. - Is it oil? - It's like a oil services. - Oil, like oil logistics basically. I think they're doing rigs instead. - He's like, I'd love to get someone at stock. - So I would love to get my hands on that stock and the guy's kind of nods. - Yeah. - That was like Adam Kay just put that in. - And then he went and made a vice, 10 years later. What else you guys got? - I got a couple here. Making the villain a gay French guy. - 2006. - 2006. - The butt of the joke being this guy's super gay in French. - Yeah. - It's pretty 2000s. - That is very. - These colors don't run, being something they say, that was like very much that era. The sideburns soul patch combination. Several of my friends had that. Like it was a really big thing. Not like, outlandishly, people just did that. Like really long sideburns. Where'd those go? We don't do that anymore. - Rightfully so. I think those, I'm not sure. Most things have come back. I don't know if the long sideburn will come back. - To play off of the next hell thing. The mention of Circuit City. - He's got more plugs in him than a Circuit City. Circuit City being a thing. - When Carly says she wants to pull the plugs on him. - Yeah. - He's like, "Mam, he's just asleep." I've never heard him make noise like that. He's just y'all. That's like looking up, "Yes, me and Bleece skirt." - Oh yeah, that was very bad up. - Yes, me and Bleece means something to people of my generation. - Baywatch? - My specific generation, yes. - Bill, if he's listening to this, this is for like, okay. - Yes, me and Bleece was. - I had no idea who that was. - Super super attractive. - I mean, also just Jean-Jourad getting, having lunch with Elvis Costello and most deaf. - Yeah, most deaf friend. - And he's just there. - And it was actually that. - Yeah. - He's like, "Was that Elvis Costello and most deaf?" He's like, "No." The other one is like, "Will you be my gate de Carrick?" - Oh, that is, yeah. - Come on. - So what's your winner? - I think that's the Bialyperton. - No. I mean, that's like a five. - The most 2006 thing. - I think it's the making the villain a gate French guy. - I have Amy Adams being a tiny small side character in a movie. - That's kind of, yeah. - Can I throw out one other one? - Sure. - I kind of think it's Sasha Baron Cohen, in a way. And I know that he had a career after that, but I feel like you're like, "Oh my God, this is like. - That's not bad. - Borat came out three months after this. - Yeah, we'll get to that. But I just kind of, I don't know, just, you know. - What do you guys have? So the fluid gun-dolley buttered my ass and the lolly pops in my mouth the word for something I just enjoy. I have the fake ads and commercials. - That's great. - I had fake ads and commercials. I got 95% of us will die at some point alive. So the darkness is creeping towards you. Whether you wanted or not. The other one I just had for things I just enjoyed. One, the sound of race cars is unbelievable. - Molly Shannon was on us something. We'll do that later. - We'll do that. - We'll wait. - That's like your Wayne Jenkins. - Yeah, yeah. - We're gonna let him just not. - We're not doing it right now. - Save it. - The other one I want to throw out is just getting into a muscle car through a window without opening the door. - You like people with that? - Every time, dude, Ricky Bobby's dad does that one point later. I'm like, I'm pretty sure the door's open in this car. - It does, it always sits. And the last one is just champagne when race car drivers win. - Is it great? - Yeah, I like that. I thought about that. - The only other thing I have is Rob Regal and David Keckner just kind of being in every comedy. I just want them in every comedy. Give them four lines each. I love seeing them. They're a floor razor. Always great. - I agree with that. It's something I really enjoy. Shifting gears in a car to music to aggressively pass one. Just feels primal somehow. I like, I love when they do that. You know, I'm not a huge like chasing guy, but I'll watch people shifting gears to like change speeds for two hours straight. - Do you like the movie Baby Driver? There's a lot of that. - Yeah. - Well, it's like cell phones kind of like, they had to almost invent ways for people to not have cell phones in a movie. When there's all like driverless electric cars, you're gonna have to invent reasons for people to use to stick shift still. 'Cause I don't even know how to watch a scene with a movie without a shift. - I almost put shifting gears into the 2006 category. Do you guys know how to drive a stick? - Absolutely no. - No. - Hell no. - No. - Well, I do. Let's see. Oh, and this is something that I've just noticed about a lot of sports movies from that era and from other eras. I love using real life sports announcers in the movies about the sports and how they do voiceovers to kind of set the stage or whatever. I just think that's really fun. I like that. So in this movie, I kind of forgotten that they do that. - And they use B-roll of like real NASCAR events, which I think always helps as well. All right, what's age the best? I got a couple. I think in general, the racing looks great the way they filmed it. - Like a big budget. - Has completely held up. They've done a lot of it in North Carolina. It just looks really authentic and really good and the crashes look phenomenal. It's just really high end. You can tell that this is a comedy that they put a lot of work into in the production side. - That looks awesome. I have Leslie Bibb. What we have talked about a whole lot. Her performance stands out more to me now than it ever has. - She was perfectly cast. - Perfect. - You could not have her place or with anybody. - Yes. - She's phenomenal in it. And then yeah, her performance as a trophy wife, just like that. - I don't work, I don't work. - All of that is just like has gotten sweeter over time. - They said that so apparently 'cause NASCAR was very good, baby. I love fun. She's like pep talking and when they're talking shit. - It's so good. - But NASCAR I guess. 'Cause NASCAR was very involved in the making this movie. And I guess the head of NASCAR basically was in the test screening and no one would laugh until he laughed like it was like, you know, like Stalin rush or something. And then the wife thing where he's like, "I'm a race, I'm a driver's wife. I don't wear any bust out laughing." And then everyone else was laughing. - Apparently that was like a big sort of inside joke inside like the NASCAR community. It's like there's a lot of gold diggers. - I mean, is that, I feel like across. Probably a lot of sports, but yeah. - A lot of gold diggers and a lot of crazy-esque kids. - Yeah. - Is what I heard. - Walker and Texas range. - A beautiful suns, Walker. - What do you guys have hyphids? - What's ancient to the best. - I have Ricky trademarking if you wait first your last and literally say into the camera. If you wait first your last and also that is a trademark phrase, you are not allowed to use that, like watching that three weeks after Jayden Daniel said, "You can't use my, this is what I said to you." - I was like the very blatant, like marketing is the- - This movie's fucking great about marketing there. - The Appleese commercial during a crash. - That's the other one. - Fucking great. - It's like what crain advertisers. - Yeah, like when someone's like in the awesome (indistinct) - 'Cause their leg just snapped in half and it's like two-for-one anti-tisers, Keith Adilis. - I almost couldn't believe that that had happened 'cause we've been joking with that. That was like four NFC championships ago. - And it's like the new chicken finger crunch sandwich, 1999. - All right, we're back. - Oh my leg. - That's great. - Yeah, that's so good. - The really PC track announcer, somehow it's aged well when he's like ladies and gentlemen, that is a new track record. As it stands now, John Gerard is sitting on the pole, which is a statement of fact and there's no way a comment on the driver's sexual orientation. - He also doesn't wanna miss. He goes, he goes, the wonder bread, the wonder bread is toast. When he crashes it, I miss that. - Oh, I didn't even notice that one. - Yeah, the wonder bread car is toast. The other one I had of what's aged the best is Rick Singh. Oh, no, nobody could live forever. But I mean, with modern technology and advances in science, I think I can make it 245, 300 years old. - 25. (laughing) - There's a funny of numbers. - But the Craig Singh, he can go three for five from three at an NBA game. - If I'm in a corner spot, three for five. - Planted, no one around me, easy money. - Feet set. - Famously how NBA games work. But I will say Brian Johnson's just trying to do this now. - That's right. - Well now he's trying to dunk. He went from, I want to live forever. I'd love to dunk. - He's taking the bar down the world. (laughing) - Well, I can't live to 200. So maybe I'll just try to have a 43 inch vertical. - He's realizing that if he doesn't get it in now, it's just not gonna happen. - Yeah, anymore? - I had some ones that we already talked about with like the post-race interview thing. I just think it's so good. - Bigihuna burger award, best use of food or drink. We can go crepes. We can go big red gum. We can go dinner scene with all the take out. - Laughing clown malt liquor. This is like one of those sort of things. They don't really like mention during the show, but he's got, his car is sponsored by laughing clown malt liquor. And then later his dad is drinking a can of laughing can. - He's drinking that tall boy, that black can, the whole movie. - He's drinking and laughing clown malt liquor. - Always with the tall can. - The tall boy is so good. - I wanted to do the dinner scene for this, but the truth is they don't eat and you don't see any of the food. So I don't know if that's a violation of this category. - It's fine. - Does 20 kilos of Colombian bam bam work is food or drink? - Oh, the only one I want to throw out. - Don't snort these. The part that gets me is every time when he's like drinking the coffee during driving. And he's like, you have spilled my maquiatal. - Maquiatal. I think it's the Lucky Charms, I think that's a good call. - All right, cool. - Great shot, Gordon Award, most cinematic shot. There's one crane shot that is pretty cool on top of the racetrack where the cars are going and a crane literally swoops down over all the cars and goes into the driver's seat with Ricky. But I thought it was really impressive. - Yeah, that's good. I mean, I thought like the long crash where they're tumbling and slow motion. And you can like see there's a fire happening in like the engine block and it's as it's spinning and there's also an earlier one where he's like, oh, I'm flying through the air, this is not good. - This is not good. - There's also just cinematography, make it. making me want to be at a NASCAR race. There's a scene at where they're kind of like introducing the race and I think they're doing like the start of the flag and then they do like a fly by with like four fighter jets. I'm like, fuck, that might actually be really fun to go to one of those. - Have you ever been to a NASCAR event? - I haven't. Sitting on top of an RV in like the middle of the race on a little lawn chair. I'm like, I'll try that. I'll do that. - I have not been to a NASCAR event. I snuck into the Monaco Grand Prix last year. Classic drivers. And I fucking James Bond. - The only person in the world who made money on it 'cause then I went to the Monte Carlo and I won 25 bucks and I'll set my $22 on trains. And- - Playing what? - You won 25 bucks. - I fucked. - It was a great day. But the number one thing though is those cars are so cheap. - You won 25 bucks. - He's like, he's great. - He's a great day person. - I made money on it. You know, don't ask how much. It was like $1, it was like your own ID. - You broke even. - But you walk out. The cars are so loud, like unbelievably loud. And everyone's like, yeah, they're so quiet now. - No, that's always the thing. The NASCAR, it is an experience. I mean, the biggest sporting event in America is the Indie 500. - Yeah. - You're like over 100, you have, I think, 200,000 people go to the Indie 500. - It looks pretty fun. - Chest Rockwell, Brock Landers Award, best character name. - I don't think we try to get into this. - Where do we start with this? - I think it's Ricky Bobby. I think we just- - I, we keep it simple. - I was going to ask her- - Are you a Texas Ranger? - Ricky Bobby is the most iconic one. - Yeah. - Oh, it's right, you're right. - I mean, it's relative to like knit, yeah. The Texas TR Ranger is a funny joke in the movie, but relative to this is the name of character of the star of the movie, of the star of the decade, and it's in the title. Where does Ricky Bobby rank among the best names of any characters that rad? - Good question. Is it better? Well, the real question is, is it a better name than Ron Burgundy? - Yeah. Ricky Bobby. Have you ever met anyone with last name Bobby? (laughing) - Have you ever met anyone with last name Burgundy? - Well, fair. (laughing) I don't know. - Ron Burgundy or Ricky Bobby? - I'm going Ricky Bobby. - I'm Ron Burgundy. You stay class, you stay in Diego. - Ron Burgundy, I just laughed because I think of him as Ron Burgundy, but Ricky Bobby is also just kind of funny and it's on. - Which name do you think is more famous? - I think Ron Burgundy. - I don't have one. - I think it's Ron Burgundy, yeah. I think it has to be. - Which movie had, which one made more? - They were similar. I think Talladega made more. - On this note, I wanted to- - The same title thing you're talking about, Anchorman is not called Anchorman. Anchorman is the legend. - The legend. - Anchorman Colin, the legend of Ron Burgundy. - I was going to ask you about this. - The ballad of Ricky Bobby. - Do you think they had to call it ballad because they had just done legend of Ron Burgundy and they're like, what's another legend like name? - Honestly, that's a 2006 thing, is titling movies like this. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - What's like, one word Colin, the blank of the blank. It's like Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark, things like that. Wow, it's a good question though. It's kind of an unanswerable question. Ricky Bobby or Ron Burgundy. I don't know. We should put a poll on Instagram. - It's more recognized. - On a request from Instagram, I have people vote. I'm curious. Kid Cudi pursuit of having to award best needle drop. I have four that I loved. I have King of the Road to start the movie, which is wonderful. The opening scene, when he's giving birth. Paint it black in French. - Oh yeah. - When John Gerard's taken off. Faithfully by journey, when they're in the bar, Amy Adams, and Will Ferrell, and they're about to get it on. And then at the very end, TNT, when they initiate the slingshot and Kellnott and then back to the side. I like Faithfully. - That's interesting. I have two others. - Okay. I mean, all those are great first of all. Audio Slave, Cochise, early in the, I think it was like the first montage of him racing and like starting to get great at it or whatever. If you know that song, you recognize it. It's just like a kick ass riff. And then I didn't know who this was by, but saliva with click, click, boom. - Oh yeah. - Click, click, boom. - That's like what he's like shifting. - That's like a classic need for speed song. That would be on every soundtrack. - Yeah. - With racing video games. - I think my takeaway from this category, this soundtrack was like shockingly good. - What's the final song too, like we belong to? - We belong to, we belong to, we belong to, we belong to, we belong to, like that song is like a choice. That one is, I did a Westworld thought. - I did a Westworld thought and I really wanted it to be the painted black in French, but I actually think that song is the answer. - Well, that we belong? - Yeah, I kind of think that is the best needle chop for the movie. 'Cause you have to nail that song. - It's like a perfect choice. - It is good. - People like the ending of this movie and this song is pretty important to the ending. - Is there a better title for this movie? So in the research, it says during development, NASCAR didn't like the name, they wanted to change it. It was gonna be a high wide enhancement. - I was gonna ask you the terrible name. - Why was that, they don't even, that's not even a line in the movie. - Maybe it would have been or maybe it was a scene that got cut, I don't know, but yeah. That's not a good name. Talladega Nights is I think a stand. - I think Talladega Nights is, you don't want to mess with that. - Was that the name? Or 'cause I think the Kedu plays TR was saying that like, "Oh, all the chairs and everything on this set set." - So I think TR. - TR. Texas Ranger. - Texas Ranger. - Texas Ranger. Texas Ranger. - Let's rest check Norse wasn't in this movie. - Yeah. - 'Cause they not get it. - Just a dodge ball. - I know, how can they not get it? - They had just done the fuck you Chuck Norse and Dodge ball. You can't just run back Chuck Norse. - Yeah, I'm sure. - They did the one. - Chuck Norse is a walker in Texas Ranger. - Yeah, you can't get it. - You can't get it. - In the movie, he was just in a movie at the end of a movie. I think my question is, do you think that was like the project code name for the movie? Or they actually were gonna call it a high wide enhancement? It says they were gonna call it that. - The other thing they were gonna call it apparently was red, white, and racing. - That's not bad, I guess. - I'm like, "Talleting" and I just. - I think "Talleting" and I just. I mean, this is maybe an obvious question. Is it a play on "Days of Thunder"? - Well, I don't think this movie is like a direct parody of that, but it is parodying movies like "Days of Thunder". John C. Riley in "Days of Thunder". - In "Days of Thunder". - Yes. Well, I feel like that was the big thing. I feel like that's the reason. I might be stepping up and making it again. "Days of Thunder" too. - Are they really? - What? - They just announced it. - Oh wow. - Tom Cruise in "An Halfway". - Wow. - Is he gonna be Dick Truckle? Huh? Isn't that his name in the movie? - Tom Cruise? - One of the people in that movie. - Let's look at live on air. Cold trickle. - Cold trickle. - Dick Trickle. - There is a Dick Trickle. - Oh my god. - That's just a big trickle. - There's no connection, okay. - Dick Trickle. - Your head was just in the gutter. - Dick Trickle. - That's an all-time name. - All right, DK, you have a flex category. - Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I went with the, I used to fuck guys like you in "President Award" for "Craziest Quote". - Okay. - I also, I looked that up. That's from "Road House". - Yeah. - That's fucking great. - Dude, I didn't do that. That one is a lie. - It's so serious. - It's so funny. - It's in his ear. I used to fuck guys like you in "President World". - Holy shit. - It's actually insane. - It's the crazy one. - It's crazy. - Oh. - Many rips. That guy's throwed out. (laughing) - Anyway. - The 80s with that. - So "Craziest Quote". - I mean, this is a comedy. So there's gonna be a million funny quotes. But like to me, are we about to get it on? Because I'm about as hard as a diamond in an ice storm right now is something I say all the time. I'm about to heart as a diamond in an ice storm right now. - Is it an old time? - Yeah. - I do. - I love that her name is Susan. - Susan. - Susan, you're the weirdest little girl I've ever met. (laughing) - I'm gonna keep the Carly and Susan. Like, I couldn't stop standing here for you. - You're the weirdest little girl. - I could have used another scene of Carly and Susan. (laughing) - The other one that I thought was great was Gary Cole, the grandpa, talking to the kids. He goes, "Shut up, you potlicker. I'll put you in a microwave." (laughing) - I was in a microwave. - I'll put you in a microwave. - That was fucking great. - Also, he had another great line, "Late in the Movie" when he is introduced to Susan for the first time. Susan for the first time. And he's like, "I'm his lady. We had sex." He's like, "Is that right?" He's like, "Well, I wish I could've been there for that." (laughing) - I think Reese Bobby is maybe one of my favorite characters. - Also another great name, Reese Bobby. - Reese Bobby. All right, but just girlfriend of word, weak link of the film. I don't typically like to do this, but I don't have anything. - Do you? - I think if it was just like a quibble. - Okay. - Sasha Baron Cohen's accent is just like too much. - Too French. - It's like, it takes him too long to say anything. I thought he had a chance to be funnier in this movie. If he could've just like talked a little more normally. It was like, it felt like his whole mouth was numbed with Novakain. It took him forever to get out any word. - He's such a dog with peanut butter on his mouth. - I don't know. I just thought he could've been funnier honestly. And so I thought his accent, like the way that it kind of limited what he could do. - He goes like very deep into the character. More than he is trying to be like big and broadly funny. - I am from formula. - Ooh. (laughing) - I don't know. - It's like the scenes where they kind of get in tight talking with him and Ricky Bobby. And he's like, I just love the way that Ricky Bobby is like so dismissive of him. And he's like, all right. He's like, and next, there he is. Whoa. And Ricky Bobby's just like, all right. - When they're like most of those and they're just like, "I'll play for Keeks, I'll play for Keeks." - Okay, what's the age of the worst? I have, this is like a half age of the worst, but there are a lot of cultural references that I have no idea what they're talking about. - Oh yeah. - And I actually, it's tricky what's the age of the worst because I actually think comedy should be doing this. I think references in the moment are good for comedies and I know you're trying to like play to the whole world now so you don't want to do that as much. But I like it. - What were the, what were some examples, you know? - In 2006, when Carly's like, if we want a couple of Worcies, we would have named him Dr. Quinn and medicine woman. - I never noticed. - I have no idea what that, like that's it. - To show. - To show. show from the 90s about it's about a female physician from Boston who moves to a rugged frontier town in the 1860s. It's a funny joke but like I have no idea what that is like. Room a clan of hand from Golden Girls. Oh, I mean, classic. Oh, classic. The movie Highlander is a reference. The one they want. It was shit. It was shit. It won the Academy Award for What? Best movie ever. I like when movies do this, but Katie Kirk and Diane Sawyer, people watch now that probably don't know what that means. Yasmeen bleeds skirt. Love that. I have no idea what that meant. So it's like it is literally age the worst because I think a lot of people who watch it now have no idea what they're talking about. But I personally like when movies do that. I also watch the trailer for Highlander. Have you seen that movie? Yeah. It looks really bad. It's like a it's it's a really bad it's a really good bad movie. It's about an immortal Scottish Swordsman who lives in modern New York City and has to fight another. That could be all new wand. I've seen that. I do love I watch the Highlander movie. It was shit. That was DK about Transformers. I watch a Transformers movie. It was shit. Like smoking with those long cigarette. You literally say you watch Kingfid. You're like I love that. I love that. I love that they can communicate while driving. I think you can hear each other. The homophobic humor obviously was 2006 would never play now. What else do you guys have? Anything? I had that you know the scene where the grandmother takes in the two kids and they're out of control and she talks about this is granny law and granny law just involves hitting the kids. She like slapped them. Oh, you just straighten them out. Oh, interesting. You think the soft parents of 2026 would not just say it didn't age well. The kids didn't age well. Those kids are little devils. Those kids. So just so we're clear you guys are defending hitting children. Look, everybody has their own. Whatever you want to do there. All right. Within reason. I don't know. Within reason. All right. I'm just saying it age poorly. She gave him like one slap. I know. This is joke. Let me break. The joke is factually correct. Okay. Kyle talking about how Carly was unconscious every time they've had sex. You know what? I don't know what that meant. I don't know why that was in there. They need to be there. I don't think they needed to mention them having sex. That was very odd. I agree. That's all I got. I mean, the cougars named Karen. I know that age well. That name has they just will just that name, you know, down. Karen. Just Karen. Who's just named Karen? Is that all you got? I don't. Yeah. No, I mean, I think you guys said it. All right. The Ruffalo Hannah Rubeneck Partridge Award for overacting. It's a comment. Yeah. Like Molly Shannon is like fucking going for it, but I would argue it works. But she is. What do you, she's one of the highlights of them? What do you talk? I don't remember what you're talking about. Deke. Can you remind us? Where did I have that? Because I want to make sure she was my deon waiters. She just fucking goes for it. You're getting ahead of the categories. Yeah. That's what he wanted you to do the quad. Do the god damn fit. I know I was waiting, but I'll try. I'll say, hold on. Okay. So overacting. Yeah. She, uh, she's drunk in every scene. Yeah. She's belittling her husband's career choice. He's like, this is my life. She, she goes. Okay. She's like, I will tell you the one thing about coming to these races, the vibrations of the cars. Why? I just love she's like shaking when those cars. Whiz bar. I realize I've been saying it wrong. It's whiz bar. Oh, which is great. The motor running up my legs. Larry Dennett's like looking around. Nobody is watching. I like the silver clattery. The other motor. Okay. Hi, Fitz. You have a flex. So I realized that the flex categories, I copied and pasted your email wrong. And there's like 30 more that I realized. Okay. So I'm, I was like, oh, I thought there were more of these. So can I, can I, can I crowd it? Can I pull now? Sure. Because I was kind of like, why weren't there more of these? I just found this out. What did you have before that? Before I had, I was, I was like, well, I was going to be like a race, a race force name. Okay. But I also just only found the first seven. And I saw that there were three more pages of flex categories. I like others. There's a whole smoking subcategories. Oh, yeah, sure. Of course, smoking. Should we take this opportunity while Bill's not here to just go through these flex categories? There's like 40. I know. I know. No, we're not going to go through 40 categories. The, we can skip it. No, I don't want, no, I can't skip my flex category. I know. This is a disaster for you. No, I know it is. What are some of your favorites, Craig? Um, the, the Sean fantasy, stealth movie homage that gives you a criteria orgasm. I don't even, this probably isn't referencing this, but there's a scene when Ricky Bobby signs a woman's chest. And it's exactly like happy Gilmore when he signs the line. Oh, right. Yeah. And I wonder if that is referencing that movie. That's good one. Yeah. The Sean, the Sean, the Sean pen. I just, Sean pen. I brought my own pack award excellence in on screen smoking. That just makes me laugh as I sing. Did you think that? Did you think that John Gerard was good at smoking the little petite, long cigarette? I felt like he, I felt like he didn't. No, five out of ten. It was a bad cigarette. So that would be the Tom Cruise, which end do I lie award for terrible on screen smoking? That's right. There you go. I wanted to ask the question about what exactly that it's a book about metals award award was, which was, is that just like when you rewatch it, you're like, oh, they're setting something up. It's supposed to be a plot for its rewarding. It's just a quote that's good later. It's, it's a quote that didn't stand out the first time you watched it. But upon the 20th viewing, you're like, oh, that one's actually great. I want to give it to is psychosomatic. There you go. You can start a fire with your thoughts. Great one. Okay. Actually, let's wait. The other one I have, the best name for racehorse. We talked about Ricky Bobby, but do you know what has not come up in this episode yet? A little bit of shake. That's actually shocking. Shakenbank is good. Is that a catchphrase or epilepsy? Shakenbank. What does that mean? What does it mean? Great one. I kind of think a horse named Shakenbank. How do we not say Shakenbank? I don't know. Or the magic man. That's fucking crazy. Yeah. It's like, I'm going with L. Diablo. What's that? It's like a fighting chicken or something. That's awesome. They love each other so much. Next good fight chicken or something. All right. We'll take a break and then we'll be back with the hottest take. The CR things Luke Wilson could have been Harrison Ford hottest take award. DK, you got one? I think we should start an ask our pod. The three of us. Yeah. Why not? Get into it. Start now. You just want to feel the vibration. I want to go to a fucking race. You just want to get drunk and watch NASCAR and vibrate in your chair. Laughing clown, malt liquor. What is it? Why is this a hot take? You started NASCAR pod? You just want to watch NASCAR. I'm like, you can turn it on. The hot take, there is no hot take, really. I guess it's just that NASCAR is actually way better than I thought. Oh, interesting. Yeah. Okay. You're going to start getting into it. Have you ever watched a NASCAR race? I have actually watched NASCAR back in the day. Okay. It's kind of crazy to actually go like 500 miles. That's insane to me. But yeah, it's kind of fun to watch. All right. Hi, Vince. It's tough to follow that. I want to watch a NASCAR race. My hottest take, this is the funniest sports movie. Never made. Yes. Like period. I mean, if you want to be like Caddyshack Sure, but 21st century draw the line. But I think we all love Happy Gilmore. But I actually think if you show someone Happy Gilmore now and they're 40, it might not be that funny. This movie holds up. You didn't just have to be 11 years old to see this the first time. I think this is my favorite and the funniest sports movie. Water boy. We have Kingpin Long. Kingpin Long as you are, Caddyshack. We have the other Will Ferrell movies, Blades of Glory kicking screaming, semi pro. I think second is it's locked in at second. I would not put it above Happy Gilmore. I think it's more universally loved than Happy Gilmore. And I think it's probably an easier and easier sell to somebody. I think if I had to show Happy Gilmore or Taladega to somebody who hasn't seen either, I would be more confident that Taladega would hit. I think Adam Sandler is a lot like Jim Carrey in that whatever you saw before your brain was sealed at like 21 years old is forever. But after that, it's just hard to break in. And I we're watching this. I was just like this movie every part about it is still incredible. Dodge ball also there. Yeah. That's a good one. My hot take is that this movie has aged better than Anchorman. I think it has. I think the humor in Anchorman is like varied that era. It's more esoteric. Yeah. And more specific to that era than Taladega nights, which I think plays way better now. And I think Anchorman is a much more famous movie. I think looking back on it is more beloved. But to be honest, I think if I go back and I watch Taladega versus Anchorman, I am I like Anchorman because of my memories of watching it and the humor at the time and the jokes I would make as a 12 year old. But I think Taladega right now is funnier than Anchorman right now, I think. I agree with that. I don't, but that's why it's a good take. Like I think a lot of Anchorman is like it's that like really kind of dry, So Ron Burgundy improvised sarcasm real bits of Panther like shit like yes 60% of the time every time, I don't know, I think this, this humor is bigger and more universal and I think it holds better. I don't disagree. I always thought I was biased because I saw Talladega before Anchorman and I just feel like my friends quote Anchorman or Talladega more and so I was biased, but I do agree with that. I think there's a chance if I show Anchorman to like a 20 year old right now versus Talladega, I think there's a better chance that Anchorman falls flatter than Talladega. I kind of see what you're saying. That's my hot take. Here's a half-baked hot take that I just thought of what we were talking and this might not even be close to right, but I want to throw it out there. While watching this movie, did you ever get the impression? I kind of felt this a little bit that it felt like it was too high budget. Like sometimes I want my comedies to be a little bit low budget and campy and use physical comedy more than special effects and explosions and races and things like that. I did kind of have the thought when I was watching I was like this feels like too Hollywood. Too glossy. Yeah, this feels too big. Interesting. And I think sometimes comedies hit harder when they're low budget. When it feels like friends making it in the backyard. Right. Which like happy Gilmore feels a little bit more rag tag. Like there's the only special effects and that is like the ball like the long drives. I mean it's also it's like a movie about golf versus fucking basketball. So I think this one had to be higher budget I guess, but yes. Because if the racing looks really bad in this movie, I don't know if it works as well. It's good that they went to the places and filmed everything. Yeah. I agree with that. That was just the thought I had when I was watching. I was like this feels very like Hollywood. I agree. It touches on something I find that we over rely on CGI to convey humor now. Like blockers is a great example. It started to like when they were doing things that weren't humanly possible or that clearly looked fake where it was like or I remember in in neighbors, there's in neighbors too when like Seth Rogen is sitting on the chair and the chair explodes and he hits the ceiling. Yeah. Yeah. And it looked so fake. Yeah. And I'm almost like, I'd rather it be I'd rather you just find a different joke that you could film practically than use CGI to like deliver something that feels hollow. I was saying this the other day on this trip where we were in Los Angeles. I was saying I think that the spaceship in the beginning of Star Wars and in space Odyssey looks better now than the spaceship at the beginning of like Avengers. Those are like miniatures that they filmed in real life versus just on a computer. I agree with you. I'm trying to think of if there's if there's I'm sure there are bad examples where I'm completely wrong on that take but like for the most part I feel like I like when comedies feel a little bit more just grounded in the dialogue and reality versus like the action. Yeah. I mean honestly you can extend that beyond comedy now. Yeah. Everything feels like it's filmed inside of an Airbnb now or like super CGI and everything is touched up in the background. Everything's like really bright. Nothing feels as lived in anymore. A lot of the streaming movies just like don't look real and I think it's why I love movies and TV shows from the 90s and early 2000s because it's like yeah and I watch super bad. I'm like I feel like I'm there at a normal high school and it this looks like how it would look and now if you film the high school movie. Yeah. It would just like look too shiny and not real. Yeah. So I do agree with you. Casting what ifs? Couple good ones. For Cow Notten it was not supposed to be John C. Riley who like as you mentioned this earlier. I did not know this. John C. Riley was the originally supposed to be Brick Tamlin from Anchorman. Oh was he. Yes. Because of scheduling. He would have made a probably a funny brick. I think he would. Yeah. I mean it's crazy to think Steve. It's weird to think of anyone other than Steve Krill doing it but John C. Riley. What was the what was the like internet character that John C. Riley played where he was the doctor and he's like for your health and he was always drunk on wine and stuff. You know what I'm talking about? And there's there's there was like a whole series about it. I want to say it was I can't remember where where it was based. Get Tim and Eric maybe. I think it was Tim and Eric. Yeah. Yeah. That's good call. But that blew my mind. I mean I you I kind of can't you it can't not be Steve Karel now in the brick role. Right. But even the funniest brick lines are actually like. He killed the guy with the trident. Will Ferrell saying that. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like the other than I love lamp. Like the actual funniest things of brick. I love brick. Yeah. Up for the role of Cow Notten. Jack Black Billy Crystal and Dennis Quaid. That feels weird to me. Dennis Quaid and Billy Crystal. I would like to say no to Jack Black. I could see Jack Black. I think would have been funny in it. I think he's too silly and big. John C. Riley is really good at letting Will Ferrell be the winner. I mean, literally like what Karel notten is good at doing. John C. Riley is good at. Right. Right. It's meta. Jack Black. I think would steal too much thunder. Yeah. But you're my best friend. I love you. What? Nothing. Yeah. But I Jack Black, I get it. I understand why that was being considered. Yeah. And then for John Gerard, Michael J. Fox, Seth Green and John Stamos. John Stamos. Yeah. 2006 John Stamos. Seth Green. Seth Green is a disaster. I don't know. That wasn't a very odd thing. Michael J. Fox also feels very weird. John Stamos. I could kind of see. Yeah. I can see that too. Yeah. The good looking slick back hair. The French, you know, thing. I feel like that would play. Yeah. I assume they knew Borat was happening when they decided to cast them in this. It's a good question. I don't know because I don't know how long it took to film. I mean, I imagine this took much longer to film than Borat. Borat came out three months after this movie. He was doing Borat bits for a long time. I was going to say Borat had to have taken long. He is. He had a whole show. We had the Alley G show. Yeah. So he'd been doing the Borat thing for a while before the movie came out. So people knew about it. Yeah, but he was more of like a like a, that shows popular in the UK more. He was like, he was like, he was sort of like an up and coming at comic at that point, right? Yeah. Yeah. Um, David Kruso stuff of, I'm doing my own flex category, which Bill never does, but I'm taking over. The David Kruso stuff of Legends award for the character who definitely should have been spun off into their own sequel. Reese Bobby. A whole damn movie around. Dude, the, the backstory of Reese Bobby where he's like mixed up with the Colombian cartel and doing what God knows what? Yeah. Run it. He's like running drugs over the border in a car or something. Yeah. He's drug running. He's doing street racing. He's like knocking women up. I want to know how many kids he's in like 12 kids. Can we get in like a real serious prestige TV style, though? Where it's not funny. It's just him doing serious shit. Yeah. Like I would love to, if he had like 12 children, I want him like going to each one and trying to like, ingratiate himself into their family. I love, I love when Ricky first goes to see him or when he delivers the pizza when Reese keeps ordering pizzas. So he delivers it and he goes close the door. I close the door and come in. I got weed in here, cowboy. He punches him in the face like, son, did this go well? Look, the first thing he says is how long has it been three, four months, 10 years, 10 years. I got to lay off the pay outie. You pay outie. Come in here and close the door. I got weeded here at cowboy at the end of the movie. He's like, I'm starting to get a little itchy. I'm starting to get a little itchy. The Applebee's waiter. I said, no onions. I think you did that on purpose. Okay. Joy Pants Award. Best that guy. This will be interesting because typically I have differing opinions than the host of this show. That is my considered to that guy true quibble with this podcast is just I try to the standard is insane of like knowing people's names. Ridiculously high bar. I kind of think for regular people watch movies, the ultimate that guy is actually Gary Cole where it's like he's the guy and Veep and also he's Reese Ricky Bobby's dad and most people don't know his name Gary Cole. But I know that that somewhere. He was just here. I don't express. Well, yeah, he's in a bunch of stuff. A bunch of stuff. But if he was lumbering and fucking office space, I think shit lumbering factor. I think beginner level. It's Gary Cole. Yeah. Okay. I think if you want to go expert level to me, it's it's Ted Manson is chip. Oh, I do not know that guy's name. But every if I see that guy, I go, Oh, that guy from Taldeck grandpa from Taldeckonites. Yes. I don't think anyone knows his name. And then the middle level is the guy who's on the race crew. That's also in forgetting Sarah Marshall. David Kekner. Are you talking about he's the one that gets all squirrely when the jazz music comes on. No, not David Kekner. No, I went with Ian Roberts who is the getter getter a coffin mine. Sure. Which is like that. Just so random. He is by the way, the literal doctor from arrested development. Oh, right. That guy. That is that is the great. He's going to be all right. It looks like it looks like it looks like it's great call. I'm sure Bill Chris and Sean will be mad at the Gary Cole selection. But yes. Well, I'm saying. I know he's Gary Cole, but I do think no one's like that guy. Oh, obviously. Jack McGrayer who's I think you see he's in it's he's also in 30 rock. But I'm like to people know with that guy's name. Kenneth from 30 rock. Yeah, exactly. I would argue that Larry Dennett, the guy who plays the son. That guy's a back guy. Yeah. His name is Greg German. I'm sure people would be like, no, that of course. To me, that's a back guy. Anyway, all right. This is the most important category of the show because this is a real like five headed race. Dion Waiters award. We have Molly Shannon who isn't like two or three scenes, crushes every single one of them. She's always strong. Tenderly touching the guy from Halliburton's face. I love his kiss on the mouth. I love right before that. Right before that. When she's like, you won't let me see you naked to her. And just under his breath right before the executive's walk and he goes, it's not a fear thing. It's a trusting. It's so good. You're afraid of letting me see you naked. It's not a fear thing. It's a trusting. I think Amy Adams definitely qualifies. Oh, yeah. Do not think she's in the movie that much and she speeches iconic. Yeah. Grandpa chip. And the mix here. What was the line he said? I'd forgotten he made this line. It was like the mouse is fast, but the owl can see it night. and he like laughed at him, I can't write what he's like. - Exactly. - The field mouse is fast. - I don't think Gary Cole qualifies. - This was gonna be my question. - I think Reed Bobby is in it too much. - He's my thing with him. I forgot until prepping for the show that he comes, like Reese, it's weird. He starts the game, which maybe is bad for the, Deon Wade is a word. - Yeah. - But he starts the game on a 12-0 run. The first 15 jokes of this movie are just Gary Cole. Literally he does, and maybe it's too much for Deon Wade's, but Gary Cole comes in and says, 10 years, I gotta lay off the peyote. No smoking in here. He's like, don't worry darling. I'm a volunteer fireman in front of the five year olds. He's like, I'm a semi-professional race car driver and an amateur tattoo artist, fastest who gets paid and the fastest who gets laid. And if you ain't first your last, that's the first four minutes of the movie. All of that is in the same scene, and then he leaves for an hour. - I also love that he's, every time he gets kicked out of places, he's always resisting. - He's kind of like. - We were so made scary. - I'm a veteran, I'm a diabetic. (laughing) - He's just screaming at him like, "The veteran." - "The veteran." (laughing) - He's kicked out of the elevator. - He puts his two feet up in the door, Jim. - He's always put his feet up. - Pin to get into the door. - Then he pulls away, he's like, see him when you're growing up. - But then he's gone for like a full hour. I think it's too much. I think he's important of a character. It's like, in the Godfather. You know, Vito Corleone is not in the movie that much, but he can't be the own waiters. - If we're calling Reese the Godfather of "Tality of the Knights," then I'll. - I'm just saying, runtime, you might be right, but I think he's too important of a role. So I would also give you Michael Clark Duncan, Rest in Peace, who is awesome in this movie. - Our sponsors will shit a chicken. (laughing) - That's so sweet. - And then really many one, I did not know this until doing the research. The original driver for "Dentit Racing" at the start of the movie, Terry Shavo, he's Adam McCadler. - Yeah, yeah, I was gonna bring that up. - I know that. - He's like, hold on, I gotta take a piss. - I think he is so funny. I was gonna be like, who is this guy? - Hey guys. - It doesn't matter, Lucius, we're in last place. We're last, geez, I gotta take a wizz, get off my ass. (laughing) - That is so fucking funny. - Good, check these burgers are really good. - He goes, I'm gonna make a phone call. - Let me eat this, then I gotta make a phone call, then I'll be back. - I mean, I gotta make a phone call. - During a race, I think he crushes it in his definition of like one scene. - Yeah. - But, what do you think it's Molly-Shin? - I think it's Molly-Shin. - I think so. - Okay. - This is fucking great. I agree, Molly-Shin. - All right, "Recast and Couch" director of "City." I don't have anything, I would not recast the director. I would not recast any of the actors, I don't think. Maybe small stuff, and then the city, it's like, this is mostly filmed in North Carolina and they're on actual racetracks. I don't have a ton here. - Christopher Nolan apparently loves this movie. - He does, he just said that. - So, remake? - Like a remake, like a king here, anything? - Like reboot it into a very, so you know how the old Batman movies were like, campy and whatever. - He dark knight. - And then he dark knighted it. Dark knight, Taladega Knight. - He should do "Days of Thunder II." - Taladega Knight, there we go. I think that'll be fun. - "Days of Thunder II" directed by Christopher Nolan starring Tom Cruise. - That would do it. - Sign me up. - I don't, I'd agree, like the cast is kind of perfect. I would like to see Tim Robinson do something like this, but that- - The only person that I felt like could go- - And say I'm Richardson. - He'd maybe be Cal. - Yeah. - The only person that I was like watching this movie and was like, could they go toe-to-toe with Wolf Errols? Or was like, I kind of was wanting a Danny McBride. Couldn't try either role, but I don't really want to change it. - I feel like he was like so from that era though that it doesn't, it's like too close. - If you could have swapped Danny McBride maybe for John C. Riley, but I don't- - I don't, I don't need to change. I think that our movie is kind of crushing it. - Half-hour internet research, we talked about a few things, shot in North Carolina mostly. They got a lot of real-life tidbits from NASCAR drivers and commentators, some of what you're in the movie, like earn hearts in the movie. I mentioned that John C. Riley was in "Days of Thunder" and this movie. Sony did not actually charge, Sony, the studio that made the movie, did not charge brands like Wonder Bread, "Old Spice" or "Pariate" to feature their products in the movie. - What? - Yeah. - Okay, so that was gonna be my answerable question is how much did they pay? And you're telling me that they paid nothing? - They didn't charge. What do you, how does that work? - I actually don't know and I wonder, I don't think that would be the case today. - What do you mean that they just put, 'cause here's why that's funny to me. - And Wonder Bread's in every fucking scene in this movie. There are times where there are 12 logos at the same time and Wonder Bread and they just got that for free. - Yeah, and then the brands promoted it, apparently. Which obviously I get, but yeah. - That's shocking. - A special time. - I don't know. - Things were different, no six. I guess, I don't even know that it's not like it was 1974. - So Budweiser is just everywhere and they're not paying a dollar for that. - Yeah. - All right, that shocks me. 'Cause I, all right, so stepping on it on that, one of my probably unanswerable questions was, is this the most product placement ever in a movie? - Ooh. - That's a good question. - I mean, NASCAR, part of NASCAR is branding. - They'll sponsor ships. - It's all sponsored. - All the teams are sponsored. - I think the answer's probably yes. I, you know, it's hard to make those claims. I mean, there's the Wayne's World show. - But it is kind of just sponsored. - The Wayne's World show is more, it's kind of condensed to one scene, really. - But this movie, it's ever-present. I'm just shocked that it was free. I guess they felt that they would have to give up creative control for that much brand. But I just, I don't know, just a slip. - You guys have any other half-ass internet research? - The Will Ferrell's dad played sacks and keyboards with the righteous brothers for like 20 years. And his song, he has a song that's in this movie. - Very cool. - His name is Roy Lee Ferrell, which is a great name. Kind of like a, this feels like it's made up for this movie. The other thing that I thought was funny is there was an ESPN article from 2016, Ryan McGee, and he talked about how Will Ferrell and all the guys from the movie got like a test drive on the track to start out. And they were going like 70 or something, like not very fast relative to what these guys are doing. And they were like terrified. And then when they did the scene where Will Ferrell's trying to come back, he's going like 26 miles an hour. He was like, that was like kind of an homage to that. Like, they experienced. - He said it was like literally what happened. - Yeah. - So it was the cars with the other- - What were they looking at? - They were like, I'm sorry. - What was the other car? - What was that? - What was that? - But no, apparently what happened, so they booked this place. I think, I forget if it was talented, or probably it was Charlotte Speedway. And it was like Richard Dent training academy. And they took them there and they had that book for three hours. And then John, and then Will Ferrell did a run for 60 seconds and came back and was silent and white as it goes. And you know how hard it is to get Will Ferrell to say nothing. And then John C. Riley got in the car for 60 seconds and they came back and he said nothing. And they were like, we're going to go. And they left. And Adam and K is like, we have two hours and 53 minutes left here. And they like got to the car. And John C. Riley was like, we can't be pussy. Like we literally out during a race car movie, we have to drive a race car. And then they like begrudgingly went back. But they wanted to leave. - NASCAR is a sport I would say I'm the least interested in participating in. - Sure. - If somebody was like, you want to hop in a fucking race car? I'd be like, I think I'm good. I don't want to do that. - The other one that I thought was funny when I saw this was Gary Cole and Jane Lynch who are Ricky Bobby's parents in the movies in the movie. They are 11 and seven years older than Will Ferrell in real life, which I love. Also, this is super random. I just forgot to talk about it earlier, but the line where Jane Lynch is recounting his conception. And he's like, where it was like in some Texas roadhouse. - Ruffler's steakhouse. - Steakhouse ladies room. He chose me and then Will Ferrell goes, a ladies room. I just thought that was such a good live ladies room. - Jane Lynch, we didn't talk about her a lot, but she's awesome. - She's always good. - She's like, she's fantastic in this movie. - But even the little things that you talk about lines that you forget and then we were watching later, it's like, but little second scene, like the baby's born. And she said, I'm gonna go get some milk and cry. I'll be right back. The other half incident research is the gray scene, the dinner scene took a whole day. And there apparently Will Ferrell's feeding lines to the kids and multiple shots of Roon and obviously the camera operator, I assume, is not always calling cut. The camera operator had to say cut because he was laughing so hard. - To shake it. - He was shaking the camera because he couldn't contain himself. - The kids are really good. They got really lucky because you never know with kid actors, both of them nail it. - There's the, I love them the K style. I know we kind of talked about this, but like where they're doing like just like 10 cuts, 20 cuts like Rhino Ro, just like feeding them lines and stuff. There's a famous blooper reel from Anchorman where they're talking about Will Ferrell and Paul Rudd are talking about what breast implants are made out of and they're just riffing and whatever. And then in the background, so they're like, yeah, it's apparently made from cottage cheese or whatever, they say a few different things. And then he's like, you can see Paul Rudd's trying to think of something. In the background, you can just hear Adam McCabe go, "Nicols." (laughing) And then they try and get through the scene by saying Nichols and it's just like, I'm like, being on the set with that group of people would have been like Michelangelo painting or whatever. - That should be the hottest take is they should, fuck this Zack Snyder cut, there should be McCake cuts. Like would you not want to watch this seven hour cuts of all these movies? - Especially when we shouldn't release it. It's been 20 years later. - Yeah, I mean, another many hot take is sometimes I like watching the bloopers just as much as I do. - Oh, I'm sorry. - Yeah, yeah. - Do you have any bad mood? Just put on bloopers from Anchorman or whatever. - I think Bill's talked about this before, but like there needs to be a 2B channel that's just bloopers. I'd watch that. - Yeah, 100%. If you met at times, I'll just like Google the office bloopers or always sunny bloopers or something. It's amazing. - The darkness is creeping toward you. Whether you know it or not. Body's so good, you're gonna wanna talk to it. (laughing) - Oh God. - There's just so many quotes. - Real simple, son. (laughing) - Close a Colombian band. - There's a kilo Colombian band, man, month of the car. Time to be a man. Hey, Pech Mountain. Will Ferrell? It's right around here. - It's really, yes, right? - Well, I think stepbrothers. - I think you could argue it could be Elf. Was just after SNL and Elf was massive. And then it was like, okay, Will Ferrell's now. But this movie was huge. Stepbrothers huge. It's like, oh, four to eight. - Right. - It's hard to say exactly whether it's like this stepbrothers or Elf. - Do you think this movie's bigger than Stepbrothers? Like from a, not necessarily like how much money it made, but just from a cultural where it stands. - I do. - Okay. - Oh, interesting. I'm not sure. I think Talda is bigger than Stepbrothers. Culturally. But Elf I think is the biggest movie. He's like commercially. - Yes. - But coming off, I just, I don't know. I mean, this movie, I'm against Elf made more money. I don't know. I'm not gonna sit here and pretend to know exactly what APEX Mountain works. But I just feel like off this, the whole point is, Will Ferrell, again, they literally pitched this on six lines, on six words. Will Ferrell drives a NASCAR, is a NASCAR racer? Isn't that like the premise of APEX Mountain? - He had so much juice. They're just like-- - Dunns. They like check. Isn't that like the hypothetical question Bill always asks? And like, that's the literal story of this movie. - That's pretty good. - Yeah. But you can argue, he can only do that because of what he did before. But yeah. Like, you know what I mean? - So this movie is because of his APEX Mountain. He gets this movie. - Kind of fucking nice. Oh my god. - Well, because this is coming off of Vankermann. And then he's like, like it's-- - But then this made a lot of money. - You know, Vankermann and back-to-backed years. - But didn't this make more money than Ancroman at the box office? - It did. - I also assumed that this had made a ton of money on the sponsors, and I guess that throws me off, is I assumed the box office was way under counting. I assumed that there was like 50 million more dollars from Wonder Bread and Budweiser and all these other sponsors. - It's hard to tell. He comes out of SNL. He does old-school elf in Ancroman. And so you could argue, it's right then. But then I guess he does Tal Degenites, and then two years later, he does Step Brothers. Maybe it is Tal Degenites. The point is, the two-year window is probably right here. John C. Riley? I would say yes, because I believe this movie Greenlit, him getting his own star role in a movie, which is "Walk Heart." And he never really had that again. And although he's had a great career, he's done amazing good movies, "Buggy Night," he's been into a bunch of stuff. But doing this and then getting your own lead comedy role, I think it's gotta be now. - Yeah, I could see that. - NASCAR movies? This came out the same year as "Cars." - Right. - You could argue 2006 was the apex for NASCAR. - Oh, easily. I was just gonna say NASCAR. - See that, I don't think we're qualified to answer that, but I do think the NASCAR movies is true. - It has to be, I read that, this is like who knows? I'm not a close follower of NASCAR. I don't know where it is right now, but I read that "Viewership Peaked" in 2006. - Really? - That was NASCAR. It was number two to the NFL. In terms of live watching at that time. Number two to the NFL. - Wow. - And I don't think that it's at that point anymore. And then we got F1 kind of coming in and stealing some of us later. - Yeah, it's a lot like premierly coming in and people are gravitating toward that. But I do think NASCAR, maybe NASCAR, the viewership, but NASCAR movies for sure. 'Cause the other reason, the other thing that stands out on our rewatch is how few drivers from the movie, you have Dale Earnhardt Jr. for literally about five seconds. - Like it was a metamon, don't tell the other drive. - Yeah, but like that was, it was very real because NASCAR was very, it was kind of a risk for them to allow this because they were very much like, are you making fun of us? Are we in on the joke? Are you laughing at us or with us? And it worked. But I feel like everyone with all the drivers basically, we're like, we don't want to be part of this. We're afraid we'll be like, maybe sponsor's also. That might have been why they didn't have sponsors that paid is because I think a lot of sponsors for the real cars were concerned that it was going to be bad for their image or whatever. - Yeah, I think back in the day, it felt like sports leagues were more open to letting their likeness be involved. Now, I don't, you don't see it as much, but like, you know, you watch Ace Ventura, the dolphins are like, sure. - Yeah, the NFL today would never. - No, it doesn't happen as much now. Amy Adams, no. Sasha Baron Cohen. - I mean, it has to be three months later. - It has to be, it's right now. - Yeah, it's literally three months later for Borat. - It's probably after Borat comes out, but this year for sure. - Yeah, I mean, I mean, Taladegan Borat in the same format period is pretty crazy. - It's crazy. - The, so I was gonna say Shakenbank, gotta be Apex Mountain for Shakenbank. - I thought about that. Are you talking about the product? Or the, well, I looked it up. I can apparently, Shakenbank has exploded in the last like 10 years. - Really? - You're trying to tell me that Shakenbank - I don't, I don't. - I wrote down Shakenbank, but then I was trying to figure out like, just sales by year, and apparently it's just gone up a lot in the last like 10 years. - No, it's, what are you talking about? - Come on. - I'm, I'm open to that. - It's one of the most iconic phrases of a really popular movie. - It's not now. - Shakenbank is not Shakenbank? - No. - Chicken or whatever. - I think so. - Well, I'm not like, I'm just saying, I looked it up. - If you smell a nice crispy, delicious smells to this podcast. - It's not your tailpops. - A little bit of shape. - I love it, does the oven. - And bake. - Put it in the oven. (laughing) - A little bit of shape. (laughing) - And bake. - Sideburns in movies? Yes or no? - No, the America has to be Gangs in New York, Billy the Butcher. - He had that on. He was ready to go. - That's the best sideburn of all time. - No four. - No four. - Listen to how you meet him. - And it's shit sack. - So we'll give a fuck about your moral conundrum. - I don't know. - Wow, okay. - This is a girl. Come on. - I don't know, these sideburns, (laughing) everyone's got sideburns in this movie. - There was a lot of sideburns. - Cranky, it wasn't real. It was a real thing that was people were doing. - Sideburns worth it. - Jack McBrayer, I'm saying yes. This is the first year of 30 Rock. And he became Kenneth from 30 Rock. Two years later, he's been forgetting Sir Marshall and 30 Rock's still going. You could argue it's then, right around now. Gary Cole, I had a great run in Veepe. He's done a lot. Hard to kind of pick what that would be. - Shane Lynch, did Glee, and role models. I forget when that was. - I'd probably say Glee for Jamie. - I think it has to be. - You got any others? - No, I just wanted to make sure we just acknowledged how fucking big Sasha Barran Cohen was. - Sure. - In 2006. - Cruiser Hanks, as Ricky Bobby. - He's gotta be Tom Hanks. Tom Cruise did the NASCAR movie. It's gotta be Hanks. - I agree. I just don't think he would be funny with Tom Cruise. - Is the right fit. Hanks, I could actually see doing the Southern. - He has the accent. - Over the top, like American race car driver thing. - Like Forest Gump adjacent. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Forest Gump later in life becomes a NASCAR driver. - Oh yeah. - He's driving the little fucking lawnmower, but actually he just wants to go fast. - With that said, if Cruise did it, he would actually drive the car. And he could probably get some insane shots of him, like actually racing up like Dale Earnhardt. But it's gotta be Hanks, I think. Hicking Knits. Look, this is a comedy about a race car driver. - Sure. - Hard to get too specific here with quibbles. The only thing that I think about is like when Ricky is down on his luck and is out of NASCAR, isn't he still incredibly rich? Where's all his money? - Caltech. - Why does he have to go deliver pizza? - They literally said the number 21.6 million though. - This year, he made $21 million that year. I think Carly was embezzling it. - He was all under her name, he had no money. - I think Cal and Carly embezzled all his money. - He took his house, took his wife and his money. - Yeah. - You ruined him my last. - I just love that he has to go like live in his mom's basement and deliver pizza three months after being the most famous driver in the world. - I love that one. - Could you do a commercial? - I would never thought of that. - That's funny. - Yeah, I'm actually not gonna overthink things like the Cougar in the car. Those are bits. - A Cougar would kill you. - A Cougar would probably kill you. - There's also no Cougars in North Carolina. - Well, we don't know where he trapped it from. - He did, that's true. He did just say he trapped it. - Been feeding it old pizza? - Maybe he trapped it in somewhere else. - I love when Ricky comes back home after his long days, I got mulled by a Cougar. (laughs) - Ruined my shirt. - My shirt got mulled by a Cougar. - Only knit I'll have that actually, as I watch it, I'm like bothers me. Is they opening part with the owner, the dad. They're like, I love Ricky Bobby. And then they just transitioned and the son's running the team. And they never actually acknowledged that the dad was gone. And they never just, like, just running the team. But it's also, I don't think he's dead. - I was like looking at it up too. I was like, well, I assumed he dies. But he really does it. - He's not dead. - Like in the lore of the movie? - I don't know. But I don't think he dies. - It was like probably one scene that they just took out. - Yes. - And it was, there was a continuity thing and it just, they just were like, they needed like the rich spoiled son to take over. I just assumed that there was a scene they cut where he dies. - I thought it was kind of like a, this is a knit pick. It's like they, the reason Denet Jr. moves on from Ricky is 'cause he refuses to win the points title. It's like, that's a huge knit. - It's like, okay. - It was the only other big one I had. I'm like, Ricky's winning every race. - Yeah. - He like flipped a guy off and lost some points. - Yeah. - Whatever Scottie Sheffler's the grand slam. And he's like, all the best. not going to win the FedEx title, but I-- Ricky's also a huge dick to it. - Yeah, I do understand that a little bit, but it's like, okay. - The only other thing with it is this is not a knit, but it's just upon rewatching it a hundred times. I'm like, I kind of forget sometimes that the race, it's not really for anything. In Talladega, does it have a ton to do with this movie other than just being the ending? - And it's a good name. - And it's a great name. And it's kind of like the joke in Seinfeld where they make the, it has to be titleists for Cramer hitting the golf ball. They have to be that. Like Talladega, to my knowledge in Asgard isn't necessarily like the most important race. - Yeah. - You know what I mean? And I don't think I ever thought about that. Like, call Talladega Knights. And I'm like, it's kind of just the next race after he has a mental breakdown. - It's more personal stake than it is actual professional. - Yeah, there's zero. - Yes. Okay, sequel prequel press, these TV all black has to untouchable. This one hundred percent could have been a sequel. And I'm glad it's not, but they could have totally done it. They thought about it. In the case that they had an idea where Ricky Bobby goes to Europe to do Formula One. - Exactly, but that's the way we obviously, yeah. - And it's like Ricky Bobby in Europe. That's funny. But. - I think that still might happen solely because now they would get all the sponsors and they would get a pay, kind of like Happy Gilmore 2. Like all the people you could get involved. The drivers, Michael Jordan would probably do an Asgard cameo or you get Formula One. Like, a lot of people more friends would pay to be in that. - Yeah. - Oh, McKay and Farrell, I don't know if they would, they would do that to you. - Oh, that's true, yeah. - Farrell hasn't done a ton of like true sequels today. - They did anchor back then too. Zoolander, too, happened that daddy's home too. I'm glad that Farrell and McKay have not really together ever made a sequel other than Anchorman, too. Because it just, it never, it usually doesn't work. There are certain types of comedies like the Austin Power, parody movie Spoops, you can do more of like Naked Guns. Like, comedies about, you know, subverting expectation. You can't do it twice when you know who Ricky Bobby is. It's just, this is not gonna be the same. - Yeah. - So I would say untouchable. Is this movie better with Wayne Jenkins? Forget the floor is Zane Low, Robert Evans, Dr. Charles Nichols, Ted Levine or somebody else. - God damn Ricky. I don't know, it's work with Magic Man and Elle Diablo. - I was just gonna throw in Tom Brady because I was like, I can't, I wasn't gonna do Zane Low, I'm not gonna do Zane Low in disrespect C.R. like that. Like you just did. - I'm trying to, it's an homage. I know I'm not Chris, right? But I just, I wanted him to be with us here in spirit. - No, it's good. The Bernthals aware of the show. He was, he was, he was asked about it. He knows that C.R. guys playing time things, which is incredible. - I was just thinking of what if Tom Brady was doing the. - Play by play. - The play by play. He's like, we got a lot of juice here for Team Denet racing KB. We are watching some high level driving out there on the track today, great stuff KB. - KB, well, it seems like he's going backward KB. I love a competitor who, I love that he's just, he's never giving up KB. - He's not on fire KB, he looks to be on fire, but he's not. - It's all mental, it's in his head. Just one Oscar, who gets it? - It's Will Ferrell. - So I admittedly, I'm not Chris Ryan with the impressions, and I'm not sure on fantasy with the Oscars, but I had to ask you a question. - Okay. - So this year, so this is August, 2006. - Yes, it'll be '07 Oscars. - So February '07 Oscars. Was Mark Wahlberg was nominated for the departed? - Okay. - As a supporting actor at the Oscars. Is he actually better in the departed than John C. Riley is in "Taleting and I?" I know comedy that doesn't happen. - That's the, of course not. - There's probably, you can pick three comedies every year where somebody is putting on an incredible performance. They rarely nominate comedies. - I know there's like five spots, and they should do more, but I just, also, I mean-- - But if you had to give an Oscar, you would give it to John C. Riley, and it's moving not Will Ferrell? - Well, it's the rule, give him an Oscar. In this movie, or is the rule, you have to pull the Oscar from that year? - No, you are the Academy, and you can give an Oscar to whoever you want. It can be the script, it can be cinematography, it can be an actor. - I mean, the lame answer is, the sound is actually shockingly good. The NASCAR, no, it's fucking lame, but the sound, you're gonna give it to the sound over Will Ferrell? - So you're saying, I don't, I have to, 'cause who won the best actor that year? - It doesn't matter, don't, don't, the Oscars don't, if you can give it one Oscar to anyone in this movie, and it's Will Ferrell. - Okay, I thought, you're asking me to pull the, like, the Oscar away from force Whittaker, the last king of Scotland, I'm like, okay. - You think you deserve that? - I actually, I mean, it, again, I mean, come on, man, it's a good, good role. Probably unanswerable questions. - So kind of, what happens with Colin Carly now? - I know, I was wondering about that. - Carly kind of slips away as this movie ends, they kind of just like don't, 'cause it, like, what's gonna happen to she, I'm assuming she would leave Cal for a different driver. - Yes. - So what happens? - I have imagined so. But Cal, Cal won, and he still has his sponsors in theory. - Oh, that's a good question. - But now, Cal and Ricky are friends again. - Oh yeah. - I think they just go back and they just kind of get over it. - But Ricky's got a new girl, you know, they have sex. - Oh, that's Susan. - Yeah. - Well, did you now? - I wish I was there for that. - That's like an insight. That's like, I always say that shit with my friends. Ooh, I wish I had been there for that. - Well, 'cause I feel like the whole movie, there's this subtle, like, Cal kind of being into the two of them. Like I feel like Colin, he's like, I'll hold her hair. - Yeah. - And when they're making out, he's kind of into it, you know? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - So what, yeah, Carly's just. - I know they say, I like to think they stay together. - I think they could be a thrupple. - I feel like Cal would want to stay together. - Yeah. - When Ricky, when Ricky allowed Cal to date, Carly. - Yeah, 'cause he started for, he felt bad for making him get second the whole time. - This should have been my flex category, which is the Dennis Peck relationship test. - Okay. - But it really will count, not in test this relationship. And no, I actually think they could be a thrupple and be totally fine. - What about Susan? - Oh, fuck. - That's the ruffle. I feel like he should just be with, maybe they could just be, like I think Cal stays with his wife and then Susan. - They still live in the house. It's so haunted. - It's all fine. - That's the spent off I want to see, by the way, the horror movie. It's just about the haunted house. - Get out. - I think Carly's dating Dale Earnhardt in a month. - Oh yeah. - Jeff Gordon. - All right. My next unanswerable is, does the sling shot actually work? - I was gonna ask that too. - Is that a real shake and make thing? - A hundred percent. This is the entire tour to France. - It's like you're just draping off of them and then you go around. - I don't understand how that makes sense. - This is how geese fly. It's like you're breaking up there. - Oh, it's how geese fly. - Why don't you just say that? - Obviously. - I don't know, it's how geese fly. It's, but in a V famously, but it's 'cause the most effort is the person at the crook of the V. - I understand that the person in the front is taking the most wind. - Right. - And that the person behind is not receiving any wind. But the second they go outside, doesn't the wind just hit them immediately? Wouldn't that slow? I don't get it. - There's a, I think there's a brief vacuum of air that happens for seven and a time. - Your velocity can keep up despite moving into the tunnel of wind. - Famously I'm a scientist, but think about a boat. Think about a water for a second. - And your boat. Think about the weight, the disruption. And like, but that's happening in the air. - Yeah, but you're, if you're behind, if you're in the wake, behind the boat, I get it. But the second you leave the wake and you're now just like everybody else, why does it shoot you so fast? And does this happen in NASCAR all the time? - I don't know. - I mean, this was happening in need for speed, so I assume. But I mean, someone who knows about physics, not hyphids. - I mean, toward a France, this definitely happens. My question is why don't they do this in horse racing? Why are there no team-made teams horses? Why can horses work together? I mean, maybe, you know, two running backs, one should just run behind the other. - Oh, like a full back. - Full back for the air. Like maybe DeAndre Swift should be behind Kalman and I. - A touch push. - Yeah. - That's good. - Justice Hill behind Derek Henry, slingshot. Something like that. - I had the same question, Craig. - Yeah. - Slingshot engage. - My unanswerable questions. I have, how many people do you think have been conceived in a wrestler's steakhouse bathroom? - Okay. - Probably 100 ladies room. - The ladies room. - He chose me. - I do wonder if it's the most product place we've never in a movie. - It's a good one. - I wanna know where I can find the cal spread for Playgirl Magazine. He said he pulled his butt cheeks apart. - And I'm wondering. - My concho. - My concho. - There's a world in which that has been, that's a real thing that took place. Like they filmed that just for fun. And that photo shoot exists. - Oh, 100%. - I bet you, like Adam McKay has that in his garage. - Right. - Just five lost tapes. - Yeah. - He's just got him everywhere. - It's called Boogie Nights. - The other unanswerable question that I do think is important is like, do you think Ricky's right about the praying to baby Jesus thing? Like Jesus, like obviously baby Jesus. - I think you can pray to whichever version of Jesus you want. I agree. - It's kind of a good point. - Yeah. It's very open of him actually. - Yeah. - He's like, "Your Jesus can be whatever you want to be." - This is my Jesus. - Can't even think of Billy. - Can't even think yet. - Don't even know a word. Newborn baby Jesus. - He loves it, I love how he's like. - Can you please heal my wife's father chip whose leg. He has his horrible, horrible leg. It smells terrible. - You'll think he never does make a hot daughter. - The dogs are always bothering with it. (laughs) - Horrible leg. Horrible leg, the dogs are always bothering with it. - Uh, okay. Almost done here. The memorabilia you'd want most. I think it's gotta be the wonder bread hat. - See, I had that for Halloween. - So I kind of, it's like 40 bucks. I kind of want something like the car. - This is memorabilia, you get the real one. - The real one? - We're gonna sponsor the memorabilia. - What is hell, man? I don't know. - I think I want Will Ferrell's crystal gale shirt. - I kind of want the Cougar. - The Cougar mannequin. - Oh, like the stuffed Cougar. - I want both. - It's like the real Cougar. - It's called me. - It's called me. - The real Cougar is, first of all, it's probably dead. - You think it's dead, that's bad. - That was 20 years ago. - What do you think I brought the car? - Where is that car now? - It's probably in a back lot somewhere. - That's what I want. - You want the car? - The old sunset gower, they had all these random cars from other movies parks. And I was like, man, no one's using those. I kind of want that car. - I want Game War and Wonder Bread suit and hat and hat. - I want Game War and Reese Bobby's wardrobe. He has some great clothes. - He does it. - You just want a six pack of the malt liquor. - Oh yeah. - I love when the Cougar, when it's clearly this, see what you're talking about, the CGI. when it's clearly the stuff, it's even funnier. And they're like adding in, like, like, yeah, they're adding in, like, growls. It was fun. It's fun. Well, Mr. Miyagi Award for Best and Worst Life Lesson, I think there are two life lessons that are in conflict, and we have to decide which one is the ultimate and during lesson of this movie, which is, is it either are you first, you're the first or last, or is it you could be second, third, fourth, or fifth? It's the latter. That's the point of the movie. It's, it's, you could be second, you could be third, you could be fourth. No, but the point of the movie is you should be winning for yourself, not for anyone else. You should do it because you love it and it's for you. Yeah, I mean, I think that's the obvious lesson of the movie is you could be second or third. But if you had to click first or last, or you could be second, third, fourth or fifth, which lesson would you go by? This, you could be second, third, fourth, or even hell, even fifth. That's a loser mentality. Yeah. I kind of think it has to be the lesson of the movie's first or last. Greatness was built on first or last. Sure. The other lesson that I thought was very poignant in this movie is sometimes people don't change. Reese Bobby. I mean, he put out tickets for him every week. The entire, he sells the tickets. The scalping of the tickets immediately after finally showing up as the best bit I've in any movie ever. 60 bucks a pot. There's not even that much money. Dude, it's so good. So I imagine we're fantastic. I believe you get some tickets for me. But then he just watches from outside the fence. When he's tickets, Reese Bobby has great. I always admired his like hitchhiker mechanics, the thumbs. Oh yeah. He's like, he's natural. Yeah. He's cool. And he's just like, it looks really good. And he's doing the both ways thing. Oh, it's so good. It's great. The way he's like watching from up in the behind the stairs behind the fence afterwards and like shaking his, his can. It's just like, that's just about his radio. He always has like backwash left. Hey, dad, where are you going? Does it matter? You're like, oh, yeah, kind of like unexpectedly heavy that scene for a moment. It does hit best double feature choice. I'm going to blades of glory. Really? I feel like it has to be anchor man or step brothers. No, I won't. We'll fair play sports. I know that's what that. The will fair playing sports thing does make sense with blades of glory. Yeah. I want feral and johnsy. I think I would rather watch anchor man. Yeah. Tell it again. I'd say together. I think you do anchor man. Yeah. I think it's anchor man. Also, cars was released in the same year. That could be something. Can you touch me together? Just the classic cars. Just watch days of thunder. Lights of glory is underrated. Lights of glory is funny. That was good. Yeah. All right. Last but not least, who won the movie? I think it's feral. I think it has to be will feral. Not Cal. Got to have sex with this friend's wife. Constance for you. Got his house. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Then he won at the end. He won the race. Andy has all the sponsors. No, it's feral. Feral. Yeah. Yeah. Over. I mean, Mike. I mean, Mike and feral. If you could combine then you would do that. But it's got to be feral. Who's like the biggest movie star in the world, basically. The finding on the guy. Those were the days. Will it come back? Yeah. God. I don't know. I don't really have high hopes. Okay. We need. We need. We need a couple of things. We need like an obsession style comedy hit, where it's like some movie made for five million bucks pops off. It'll happen. Or we need Shane Gillis. And whoever to be like screw it, we're doing a huge comedy. A poor kid knows those. Yeah. But both need to happen. The YouTubers are just making movies, man. This is the beginning. Yeah. There was some report about Shane Gillis doing some big comedy in the next year or two. Oh, interesting. Yeah. I saw in the Hollywood Reporter or something like that. I said, your favorite movie, your favorite comedy of the last like 10 or 15 years was what was it? What was it? What was it? Well, the invite came out this year, which I thought was amazing movie. Really funny. Seth Rogan. Yes. But it, that's like more of a, that's not like a big broad comedy. But an ensemble comedy. No. We need like stepbrothers again, things like that. This was fun. Dan Kelly. See if we'll be back on this show. I don't know. We'll see if we'll be back. We'll be on the fantasy show, though. Listen to that. This is, this is like, it's Labor Day. This episode is coming out. So it's the same day as the take perch on the fantasy football feed that we do. So check out the take perch, which is kind of all professional credibility is suspended for 60 minutes. And we give takes that we've been holding on to all off season. And then we'll be with you throughout the entire NFL season. Four shows a week. Four shows a week. Fantasy. The fantasy off season is finally coming to an end. Wild. I know. You guys are headed back to your homes. Sad. Yeah. We spent a long time together. Eleven days. It's the longest we've ever spent together. Right? I think we did this last year. We did. You were home. We were traveling for two weeks. Is that right? You were going on the tie. Enjoy. Well, I've treated you to some nice dinners. I'll take you to the west side tonight. Sure. Hi, Fitz. DK. Thank you. We'll see you next week. I'm going to be watching this. All right. Thanks.

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. The episode celebrates *Talladega Nights
  2. Will Ferrell and Adam McKay created the film with a six-word pitch—“Will Farrell as a NASCAR driver”—and no script, showcasing their collaborative chemistry and the film’s instant appeal.
  3. The movie’s success lies in its relentless pacing, zero filler, and iconic scenes like the “first or last” line and the baby Jesus dinner, which have become embedded in popular culture and meme history.

Summary:

This rewatchables episode explores the cultural significance of *Talladega Nights: The Ballad of Ricky Bobby*, a 2006 comedy directed by Adam McKay and starring Will Ferrell. ” The episode emphasizes that nearly every scene is quotable and funny, with no drop-off in energy, making it a timeless comedy. Will Ferrell’s ability to play multiple athletic, over-the-top characters—NASCAR, figure skating, e-sports—demonstrates his unique comedic versatility.

The film’s enduring legacy is reinforced by its influence on pop culture, including the viral phrase “If you're not first, you're last,” which predates its internet meme status and echoes in mainstream conversation. The discussion also touches on the film’s supporting cast, including John C. Riley, whose performance is praised as one of the best in comedy history.

The episode reflects on how Ferrell’s era of prolific, high-energy comedy has not been matched since, and how the absence of a clear successor underscores his unmatched influence. The rewatchability is further cemented by scenes like the baby Jesus dinner, the bar fight, and the final foot race, all of which are cited as emotionally resonant and hilariously memorable. The episode concludes by noting the film’s cultural footprint, including its role in inspiring Jay-Z and Beyoncé’s song “Ape Shit,” and its influence on internet humor and generational slang.

Despite being a comedy, it is celebrated for its emotional depth, improvisational brilliance, and lasting appeal across decades.

FAQs

The most iconic and enduring quote is 'If you're not first, you're last.' It has become a widely recognized cultural reference, even if people don't remember the movie's origin. This line perfectly captures the film's theme of winning at all costs and reflects a mindset common in sports and competition culture.

The film is considered a defining comedy because it showcases Ferrell's unique blend of physical humor, over-the-top characterizations, and rapid-fire quotable lines. It remains one of the most quotable and frequently rewatched movies in his filmography, with every scene contributing to its comedic energy.

John C. Riley played the supporting role of John Gerard, a key comedic foil to Ricky Bobby. His character adds depth and balance to the film, and his chemistry with Will Ferrell enhances the movie’s humor. Riley is often considered Ferrell’s 'number two' in comedic partnerships, with a legacy that extends beyond this film.

Yes, the film influenced pop culture significantly. The line 'ape shit' from the movie inspired a song by Jay-Z and Beyoncé, which was filmed at the Louvre. This connection highlights how the film’s humor became embedded in mainstream culture, even decades later.

The dinner scene is iconic because of its absurdity and quotability. Lines like 'I didn't know you were a man with a beard' and 'You brought the heat' became viral memes. It’s one of the few scenes where the humor is both crude and deeply memorable, resonating with audiences long after viewing.

They pitched the movie on six words: 'Will Ferrell as a NASCAR driver.' The pitch was so compelling that Sony greenlit the film without a script, showcasing their belief in Ferrell’s comedic potential and the marketability of the idea.

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