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Tailgate Live Is Back! We're Reacting to Week 1

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Tailgate Live Is Back! We're Reacting to Week 1

The episode centers on a dramatic college football upset where Western Michigan defeats Michigan, a traditionally dominant program, in a stunning home win. This game becomes a focal point for discussion on quarterback performance, team identity, and the emotional impact of underdog victories. Analysts critique Michigan’s quarterback, Bryce Underwood, for failing to deliver under pressure, highlighting a lack of consistency and a poor offensive rhythm that contributed to the loss. The win is seen as a significant moment for Western Michigan, symbolizing a long-overdue breakthrough and a potential turning point in the program's history. The episode also explores broader themes, such as the resilience of underdog teams and the psychological impact of such wins on fan morale and team culture. While Michigan’s offense struggled, the game underscores how even a poor start can lead to unexpected momentum. Other teams like LSU and Clemson are briefly discussed, with LSU showing dominant defensive play but struggling offensively, while Clemson’s coaching changes and quarterback shifts are examined as potential red flags. The show also reflects on the broader college football landscape, featuring strong performances from Miami’s wide receivers—particularly Malachi Tony, who leads with 12 receptions and three touchdowns—while noting the emergence of talented young quarterbacks like Keelan Russell at Oregon. Ultimately, the episode uses the Michigan-Western Michigan game as a lens to examine how college football narratives shift with results, fan sentiment, and player development. Despite the loss, Michigan is seen as potentially rebuilding, and the game serves as a cautionary tale about consistency and quarterback development in college football. The tone is both analytical and emotionally resonant, emphasizing how underdog wins can become lasting stories in a season.

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Must be 21 or older in select states, 18 and older in D.C., Kentucky, or Wyoming. Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER. Call 1-888-789-7777. Or visit ccpg.org slash chat in Connecticut. What's up, everybody? Tate Frazier here in studio. And we're going to be talking about the game. We're going to be talking about the game. and All that other sort of stuff But I thought he had never Lived up to any of that stuff I was like man That dude was not good Then all of a sudden He got to be really good In a great NFL quarterback With DJ Lagway At Oregon before that But yeah Yeah at Oregon But DJ Lagway Looked pretty good Like he popped Like in spots During his freshman year Yeah And then last year He led the nation They started six and one Yeah Yeah when he was a freshman And then last year He led the nation In interceptions Among P4 starting quarterbacks Got Napier fired And then yeah He played injured And he didn't look great today Like he didn't look bad And he did battle And get them back in the game But he didn't look Like you would want A former five star To look like What he didn't look like Was the program changing talent That he was described at As when he came into Exactly Yeah potential top five pick Potential like The guy with the cannon arm Who can also truck you The gigantic He didn't He hasn't looked like that Although I give him A tremendous amount of credit For the moxie That he showed in the game Yeah yeah yeah Absolutely Absolutely And then also Then on the Auburn side of it I mean again 10 straight season openers We had to fact check that To make sure that was correct It was correct And Alex Golish To win his first game As Auburn Tech coach That was a big deal for him To be able to survive Can I just say something real quick Yeah Western Michigan Did not get the first down They are lining up To kick a field goal right now Why Which would put them up By five with 38 seconds left They just fumbled it The last play They almost lost the ball Right So let me ask you something These old Kmart ass uniforms Are just crazy If in fact If in fact Western Michigan Wins this game It would take a touchdown drive For Michigan In less than 40 seconds Legacy drive For Bryce Underwood It would be A remarkable Miracle drive For him What kind of upset Would this be This would be Obviously you're not touching The top 25 The rest of the season This is more This is more than It's Also an in-state I'm trying to think Is it Appalachian State-esque Appalachian yeah I think it's Maybe even more Significant than that Because Appalachian Did you just say Did you just correct His pronunciation of that Well I mean This is Mr. Tulane And Chris Noble What did you say I'm not I don't remember You said Appalachian Appalachian You said Appalachian Appalachian Which one is it Are you asserting North Carolina dominance Over It's the Appalachian Mountains You can't say Appalachian I mean you can say Whatever you want But obviously not Yeah I mean I was trying to help him out Before like the Appalachian You know State fans I'm going to get one princess In your life And you just think Wow Black girls Now you feel like You can tell a black man How to talk I just I'm covering for Joel You know He's spinning out over here Literally Oh my god Which is great Oh that's amazing So anyway I mean Appalachian State Was probably still A bigger upset Because I don't think People suspect I don't know about that Because Western Michigan Is a school Twelve to seven now That should never It's just like It's one of those In-state schools That Michigan has The thumb on its fucking neck Do you think this is A Connor Stalgins Get back Game This is a karma Connor Stalgins game Maybe Because he was On Western Michigan Yeah Right But Appalachian State Had a history of success They were a great FCS team National championship I don't know Western Michigan Had one great year With P.J. Fleck When they remember They had a Corey Davis And they played in a boat And went 13-1 What was the quarterback No I'm not thinking About P.J. Fleck I'm thinking about Central Michigan Who had The Chippewas Yeah they had What was the guy's name Dan Lefevre Dan Lefevre There you go Yeah Anyway Well Well Good note This dude said I like Joel's Brawny paper towel shirt So guys Can I tell you a story About the shirt real quick Joel was wearing A different shirt The entire day Tate is wearing What he wore It was a gray t-shirt I wore I'm wearing What I wore Billy has on What he had on FIU Joel Actually when I picked Billy up I was like Oh okay That's what you're Going to wear Joel did a late Go Sam That's basically Man Clemson dog I mean This is a waxing Dog Can I Can I name something In this game though Yeah please LSU is not Passing the ball Very well They're running The ball down Clemson's throat Sam is running Around We're giving The ball up To the running Backs We're mashing The ball Down their throat But LSU Has not been able To put together A rhythm Consistent passing Game It's wet Out there I'll say this I think Clemson Ends up starting Tate Reynolds In the second half I think that's What we're leading To right now They have no Offensive push If you pull That plug I mean I guess you can Always go back To it But it's just like Oh you bailing On me already I think you gotta Go for the more Talented player At this point I mean this game Is already out of hand Maybe they're just Like whatever We're getting ready For the ACC But this is not A good look I actually said That this is gonna Be 21 to 3 At halftime You know what You did say that That's why you On the gambling show Bro Wise guys Wise guys I mean That's one of those Things with like Dabo Swinney It just brings Into focus Because we talked About this in the Off season It's like oh Would Clemson Ever get tired Of him And ever want To fire him After a while This is tiring To watch You get You get You was like Oh okay Those championships Were a long time Ago when people Didn't know that Deshaun Watson Was a freak You know what I'm saying Like it's been A long time Since Clemson Also they had Alabama's number Back then a little bit Yeah and it's just Like you don't Want to keep Seeing this bro They've lost Three games At least three games For five years And four for The last five The Gators want To know In the chat whether or not we went to dinner. Guys, that dinner is supposed to be happening right after this show. Yeah. That's right. Yeah. Raise the roof. Raise the roof. Do it for Lionel. Yeah, for Lionel, Joe. Yeah, come on, Joe, for Lionel. Should we do our one big reaction? Obviously, these games are playing out in real time. Maybe we should wait for the end of this Michigan game because I feel like that would be a big reaction. That is going to be a big-ass reaction. In fact, 35 seconds, Michigan has the ball, no timeouts. Anything can happen here. Anything can happen. We do have some drama. This is really – I mean, Michigan – I feel for Michigan fans at this game. This is supposed to be first game for Kyle Whittingham, get your kind of legs underneath you, feel good about the season. I'll be honest with you. Obviously, Michigan fans and Michigan wants to win this game. Obviously. But this game is a disaster no matter what. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, even if you pull it out and win, it's a miracle. Even if you pull it out and win, this game is a disaster no matter what. You want to – obviously, you want to win the game. Yeah, you should need a game-saving drive to beat Western Michigan at home. And it looked like this from the start. Like, we were watching this game and we were like, how is Western Michigan getting a push on these guys? I mean, it's just – this is really sad, man. But you know what? This is why I always say – I had the theoretical argument with people about, like, how one championship is never enough. Like, no – people – fans are never happy. Like, you think that the glow from a championship is going to last for a long time, and it really doesn't. Look how we're talking about Clemson. Oh, sorry. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Hey, so just real quick. Joel, you are one of the most accomplished reporters, one of the best writers I've ever read. Thanks, bro. Long-form podcasting. Phenomenal slow burn. This is an audiovisual medium, so the people are – we're going to need you to speak into the microphone. Oh, my bad, Doug. This is really tough. I don't have to do this at home. What? Talking to a mic like this. Oh, because it's the mic. Yes. I mean, you do talk into a mic. Yeah, I do, but it's in a different situation. Yeah. All right, so let's just do one big – big reactions before the end of this game. We're watching this drive live. If you are a fan of college football, you should turn on this Michigan-Western Michigan game. This is history happening in real time. At least it feels that way, right? I mean, this just feels like it's turning very sour very quickly. But, Van, what big reaction outside of this right now that you have for the first games today? We are so back. Yeah. We are so back. That's a good reaction. And this season is going to be the story of the wideouts. Think about it. Think about the wideout crop that we have. Yeah, we're going to talk about it. Malachi Tony showed out. Coleman showed out. Daddy of the year, by the way. Malachi Tony. Daddy of the year? Yeah. This season, daddy of the year. Uh-oh, uh-oh, Michigan. Uh-oh, uh-oh. Oh! Michigan's got time for the Hail Mary? Oh. Hold on. Wait a second. Michigan's line is up right now. You're the run-in of the line. They're going to have time for the Hail Mary. First and ten from the 48. The beauty of a live show is that we are with you watching. With 11 seconds. So, who else got off? Ryan Coleman-Williams got off. We got. Satania. Satania got off. DeCorey and Moore. DeCorey and Moore went crazy in the performance. That's another game we'll talk about. We really needed it. KJ Duff got off, unfortunately, and it was one of the most horrific losses that has happened to any big team team. You're talking about Rutgers-UMass. Yeah, Rutgers, man. KJ Duff is the real deal, man. Oh, poor Clemson. Yeah, Vazina's getting. See, you out there. Man, I'm just saying, you out there. I'm out there feeling sorry for these boys. My cousin, Frazier, from Michigan. That's your cousin? Yeah. He's actually your cousin? No. Oh, man. I was like, what? Who is that? Same spelling, though. Shout out to him. Nate Frazier, another guy that went off for Georgia. Georgia looked good in their opener as well. Just, you know, thinking. So, I'm just saying, the wideouts that they really showed out today, and there's a deep, deep pool of really dynamic wide receivers, like in college football this year. We saw them. Oh, yeah. McClelland and Oregon. We haven't talked about the Oregon game yet, but. Is that your one big reaction? DeCorey Moore and Evan Stewart. Yeah, and Evan Stewart. Well, actually, my one big reaction was that, man, Keelan Russell, he's probably the real deal, man. I think, like. What's good? It's early. It's early, but I take. One yard short of Bryce Young's debut in 2021. I take heart to the fact that Keelan DeBoer has never really had a bad quarterback, and that he's a good developer of quarterbacks. He made Michael Penix into Michael Penix, right? Well, I mean, Michael Penix made Michael Penix into Michael Penix, but you know what I'm saying. He took him to another level. Yeah, everything. Because at the beginning of the season, Alabama was the last of those schools that was in that bunch in the top 25 and it was all because we don't know what that quarterback don't look like like we don't like it may be austin mackin maybe keelan russell and if it's keelan russell he'll be a true freshman and but or rich underwood threw the ball out the back of the motherfucking end zone are you fucking kidding me bryce underwood through the fucking football underwood through the fucking football all right that's out of the back of the motherfucking end are you kidding me that is so you gotta you gotta give me space real quick yeah that is so emblematic of what the problem is here if there is one thing that you can't do at the end of the game give somebody to give your team a chance to win yeah is take the goddamn football and chuck it out of the back of the end zone now there's a review here happening for some reason i told you this is home cooking remember how i was saying that the western michigan guy looked like he had a little negro spice the western western uh michigan head coach he's actually a member put his helmet back on he's actually a member of the choctaw indians all right the head coach for western michigan so shout out lance taylor dog what that has to be the i mean of course it's obviously got a big biggest win in program history i mean because if you beat the the monster in your state um that's not the monster big 12 not the monster big 12 man i i can't believe i cannot believe michigan lost that game well they haven't lost yet they put a little bit of time yeah yeah underwood put his helmet back on uh-oh they're like it looks like right now they're celebrating there might have been some sort of foul in the end zone uh that might have them replay this down oh man so it but you know well i mean i'm not rooting for anybody but i want that game to be over so i can stop thinking about it you know so yeah um anyway so like we'll we'll know what happens here in a second so take away from my rant but still in that game i'm not rooting for anybody but i want that game to be over so i can the situation the situational awareness to touch the quarterbacking that you wanted to that you want to see from bryce underwood it just has not manifested itself yet now they they're running the back there dog i mean they had 75 yards on that first he looked okay on the first drive of the game he was fine he looked he's like okay like they rolled a little bit they scored and they ain't done shit since then they had 75 that first drive went 75 yards they had 90 yards next two quarters to yards they had 90 yards next two quarters total and that's just like you're every time they show every time they show whittingham on the sidelines he looks completely overwhelmed yeah what's happening i mean this is the worst time here we go he was retired yeah exactly that's great oh no no no no no no one second back on the clock that was a replay that was the replay okay all right oh man time out are y'all watching the game with us man what's up you know yeah hope everybody's hanging out with us watching or do you have it on lsu clemson on the big screen like us which we have y'all are watching michigan and western michigan for everybody out there all the gators uh van has promised and vowed to stay locked into the show you don't need to lock not get locked into this game i don't think you really need to lock in it feels like it's pretty subtle but also even if there's no miraculous comeback by clemson here you do want to see how lsu looks and like what the things that they you're grinding tape right now i mean that's the thing is like man clemson you came into lsu with everything that is most chaotic like you you would think this is a great opportunity this is a brand new team a bunch of different pieces in the world right now and i think it's one of the craziest weeks any program has ever had and they beaten your ass i mean you know what i'm saying like they're beating the out of y'all man it's crazy yo but my thing i was let me just finish the thing i was going to say about my dude keelan russell yeah yeah this is your big reaction the reason the reason that that's amazing because if if he's as good as his potential suggests and if he's you can project improvement then i think they're better than all those other teams that are ranked in front of them except for davis and georgia and texas because if that if keelan russell is that he's better than mars he's better than what marcel reed and texas a&m got really uh yeah he's better than i mean very good but it's like touchdown michigan i need man i wish i said i was looking that is a hailberry to the victors right there they made up that one second there was not a second that is i wish i could see because i was standing around i was like when i saw this picture of kyle whittingham i was like this is this feels like the kind of thing that happens and you look back in a that is crazy that's why they should have gone for a fourth down earlier they would have kicked a field goal they would have had to go for two to tie it they would have won this game yeah yeah going for it earlier because they didn't think they were good they didn't think they were going to be still in the game right at that point right they just like we got to get all the points we can get look at bryce underwood i'm the one i told y'all i'm the one i told y'all you gotta knock him out of the top 25 still right yeah i think so i told y'all that is unreal i mean man get oh my god that's unbelievable i cannot believe that happened i'm i'm shell shocked it's like i really i did we just had a whole conversation about this i had an image in my head though of really i was like man that's just so weird when something like that happens it's like you get it's just you give something for craziness i gotta i for them to win the game at the end that is one of the biggest bullshit home cooking fixing calls that i've ever fucking yes they give them a redo there and i think bryce underwood heard you van i think they had the live stream on because he was like i gotta give him a chance i mean oh my god giving them a second was unbelievable yeah but then to make the most of you have to give them credit you have to give them credit for doing it but that was truly truly bullshit from a it was a mulligan for michigan yeah that was an absolute mulligan but they make it work uh that was probably going to be the highlight of week one which is insane that uh hail mary from michigan to be west is insane man yeah that's a big reaction right there yeah legacy drive legacy want to know it's still want to know let's see what kyle has to say he looks like he's still how that would happen yeah that would never have happened at utah they would not have gotten that second at utah they lost as much as any team can possibly lose while still winning yeah you know what i'm saying like they didn't do shit right after the first quarter and it looked like the game was over and they won like that that's tough man look at west michigan look at them they beat western michigan at home look at the celebration yeah you would think they just be ohio state on it you gotta i mean you gotta celebrate it like that you got to yeah you gotta feel good about it because you never i mean obviously expected but like you were prepared for your team to look be like oh man what a season this is going to be this well it's funny because like i've like talking to head coaches throughout the years doing interviews and things like they always say the first win is really hard right no matter who it is or what it is and i do feel like for kyle winning yeah this is probably just pure relief at this point that he was able to get this you can i mean you can if you lose this game it's like it's over if you lose this game his tenure is always yeah it's so weird yeah oh man look at brother dog oh man it's tough it's it's gotta be tough but at the same time like they need to we show the the replay here like the the defense on that final play on that hell mary was absolutely terrible that looked more like an actual seam right seam route right down the middle than a hell mary at all that's yeah man he's hugging his kids and have look look bryce underwood in this game 12 of 22 170 yards uh seven seven yards 70 is so fraud one touchdown one interception now that's a 12 million dollar quarterback and obviously people know as quarterback that was supposed to come to lsu we got so they might say you're outbid yeah i'm not hating at all i'm saying that might be the read between the lines but i don't think this is hate i think you're telling truth uh a michigan offense led by this type of talent just still look through the air here here's the play right here it's a great throw yeah i mean we i heard so much about savion heider all offseason and it's just like they couldn't they couldn't run the ball against western michigan they couldn't keep they couldn't keep western michigan's offense off the field yeah so it just yeah they didn't look good but again it doesn't matter now because you're like you know what it'll it will never be that bad you can say to yourself we'll never be this and by the way western michigan running the ball 46 carries for a 132 yards 2.9 yards of carry they threw the ball for 15 for 21 15 of 21 for 89 yards four yards um average through the air it's not as if they came there and lit it up right they just were able to push michigan around keep michigan off the field and just kind of do what they need to do in spots because michigan's offense was so anemic yeah like no explosive miss at all man yeah somebody somebody was saying it you know the russians remember how the russians won the olympic gold in 72 they put more time on the clock and shit you don't remember that us men's basketball 1972 yeah 1972 that game is negative guys that is made of time you guys that game that's crazy is fucking over yeah they're replaying it right now that game is over the one second was uh egregious they do they do on my voyage but you know i'm not gonna say that's a good thing but i'm not gonna say that's a good thing but i'm not gonna say that's a good thing but i'm not gonna say that's a good thing but i'm not gonna say that's a good thing but i'm not gonna say that's a good thing but i'm not gonna say that's a good thing but i'm not gonna say that's a good thing but i'm not gonna say that's a good thing javarius sims but i'm not gonna say that's a good thing javarius sims number eight from west michigan i mean talk javarius sims number eight from west michigan i mean talk about rushing the field after that too about rushing the field after that too about rushing the field after that too i mean this is michigan i mean this is michigan They won the national championship. Yeah, but I mean, dog, that has to feel better than any win outside of a playoff win or a national championship or beating Ohio State. What? Really? I mean, dog, the elation of winning a game that you have no business winning and you won on that play at home. A game that you have no business winning. Yeah. They're playing. It was so good. They dominated that game. That feels, guys, agree with me. Rush in the big house as well. Does that feel better than Michigan 31, Purdue 13? Hell yeah, it does. So you're saying the emotional whiplash from we're going to lose so we win. It feels great. Makes it feel better than pretty much makes it feel about as good as any victory you can have outside of one that's like over Ohio State. You will not feel the same about beating Illinois 44-9. Well, they're not going to beat Illinois based on this game. Probably not. I think that's the big take. The big takeaway here is, like, how bad is Michigan going to be this year? They're definitely not a top 25 team. Joe, your fans here in the chat are not agreeing with you. What? Oh, my God. They're not my fans, man, for real. Joe's rule for fandom is you have to agree with him blindly. Nobody agrees with me on shit. I'm used to it. I had a friend of mine today who was like, nobody agrees with you on this. I'm like, why the fuck should I care about that? That's a good attitude. But you know what? But I was like, you know what? I mean, maybe I should, you know? So Michigan wins the game. Obviously, college football doesn't get the story of Michigan losing. It's a Western Michigan. Kyle Winningham gets this game. The chances that Michigan, because they didn't die here, find themselves and find their football identity and go on to have a really phenomenal season are what? Slim. You say slim. Oh, I think, I mean, they're going to, I don't know, man. That's the kind of thing you can build off of. You can rally around that. You're like, look, we'll never play this bad again. We still won. Maybe somebody's got some twinkle, some twinkle dust, maybe a little bit of our season. Somebody, you know, you could be, you could get very religious about that and be like, you know, we're supposed to win. They play Oklahoma next week. I mean, again, it's better to go into. Did you watch Oklahoma play week one? Yeah. Oklahoma looked fucking dominant. Oklahoma looks like they will dominate. Yeah. I mean, I don't think the defense for Michigan to give them some credit. Football is weird. Football is weird. No, you can't judge the defense of Michigan from this game. Yeah. They were playing such an athletically inferior team that the defense you can't judge how good the defense is. You can't say anything about Michigan right now, except for the fact that they won the game. Do you think who you think is better? Western Michigan or Utah? I'm not sure. Probably what you probably you tip. I mean, I'm just looking. I'm looking at their schedule. I would say Oklahoma. I like their chances to win at Michigan. You tap at Michigan. I would take Michigan there. Iowa at Michigan. Iowa looked a lot better than Michigan. I just, I just, I don't at Minnesota. Minnesota looked good in their first game. Penn state at Michigan. Penn state looked good. I know that Rocco Beck. I know that they looked bad, but I'm just saying that in Indiana, you can easily say to yourself, they got at Rutgers. That's a win. You can say, you can say, what was the line? We'll never be this bad. Oh, it had to have been like, so it says they were a 28 point favorite. Yeah. Like 30 points. Yeah. That's tough. That is tough. I mean, like you said, maybe they galvanize together and say, Hey, we can't ever let this happen again. And this, you know, shoot some of the right direction. Maybe they find God like Joel. So yeah. Find God. Tomorrow is a good day to go to church. Um, Western. So, so Western Michigan, if Javarius Samuels interview, hear this, the only thing, the thing that I can tell you about a day as much as it hurts is that 15 years from now, you and your, you and your teammates are going to laugh about this shit. Like you'll be mad, but it'll be like, remember that time we got jobbed up there and y'all will talk. It'll be a bonding experience. He was like, man, that was some bullshit. I don't think people will believe it. I don't think that. Yeah. Number one, I don't think. It would have been better to say that at one. That's what I'm saying. What? But this will still be a story. You'll be like, damn, dog. You remember that time we got, you know, they robbed us up there in Elk Harbor. They, it'll be something to remember forever. They cheated. They cheated Western Michigan. They'll remember forever. And when, and when they're older men, they'll be like, damn, dog. That was that simple. I don't think you let anything go. Why would you think they would let that go? That's right, Joel. That's good. I don't think for the rest of their lives, they'd be like, damn, man. You and they're 55 years old. You think they'll be like, man, it's sucked. We, we didn't be easy. 32 says Western Western got Lexington steel. Do you know what that means, Joe? Yeah, I'm familiar. Yeah. We're going to start doing some raps from a different guy. Free calls and flows. Jay. Steve. I don't remember. I don't remember nothing like that. Joel's talking about watching 1972 Olympics. Like he was. Yeah, but there was a word there for that. No, but man, it was a game that was right with him. It was a game that was infamous because whenever I, when the, when the Olympic team, you discuss this, if you were watching people, whenever they would talk about the men's Olympic team in 84 and 88 or whatever, they'd be like the only other time us is lost in international competition. And they would reshow that team with Doug Collins on it because Doug Collins was under us men's Olympic team in 68 and them giving Russia more time on the clock to score again. And that was also when they were the USSR, right? So they had like Lithuania, Slovenia. Oh y'all there was all the cut media, Armenia. Yeah, they had them all. Like the Ukraine had them all. Yeah. Shout out to Lionel. Look, so, I mean, obviously Michigan is going to be a big story. LSU playing well, although once again, the passing game is not clicking. What other teams? - Can I get a reaction just quickly on LSU? Just the intro, like the walk, you know, Lane Kiffin's first impression goes on game day to day. Like, does it, does it mesh with LSU culture? - What the having? - I mean, Lane Kiffin and having Levy Dunn and the whole thing. - So look, I'll say this. Y'all didn't know that all of them people, y'all didn't know that the Nader girl was from Baton Rouge and stuff like that, right? - Yeah, that's true. - So this is the thing about LSU. Does it mesh? Not really, 'cause the culture is so deep there, but it will be interesting to see. 'Cause LSU is different than it used to be. We didn't used to have like Levy Duns and Paul Skeenzes and people like that. - Raising Canes. - That were like cultural stars that went to LSU. It was all about sports, right? So like, it is interesting now to see those type of influencer celebrities affiliated with the school. The Nader girl, her granddad was the assistant athletic director at LSU, I believe. So she has deep LSU roots. - So she's blind. - Right, so like, those three people are LSU. Like, and Theo Vaughn went there as well. They're part of the LSU family. So it's not really out of the ordinary to have them around, but we haven't had people that matter like that before. Not matter, they don't fucking matter, but that people cared about. - Yeah, now this is weird because yeah, I was just like, I feel like LSU's, I mean, well, it just, it felt like a rockstar environment around day to day. - It felt very Nashville. Not very bad roots. - When have you, when was the last time you felt like that around that kind of energy and national attention around the team? I just can't like, it's like the worst of the Cam Newton 2010 thing merged with, I don't know. But it just, it's just a lot of weird energy around the team. You know what I mean? You know, like it's kind of superstar shit. And they look at them and they're playing up to it. - Touchdown. - That's the thing. Like if they dominate and they win games like this, then none of that really. - It's going to seem so cool. - Matters. - Yeah. - Van, you'll be, he'll have so much fun rooting for a team. - He'll be listening to Theo Vaughn's podcast. - And dominating. - Yeah. - It would be cool. - Yeah, I mean. - It'd be like having a UN, it'd be like rooting for the UNLV Rebels of football. - Yeah. - Or some shit like that. - Well, they might be some Rebels. - They is? - JKF. - They might be some motherfucking Rebels, dog. - Some motherfucking Rebels, dog. - Yeah. - By the way, we just want to let you guys know that we're also tuning into the Twinkle Bowl. - Yeah, yeah. - Oh yeah. - Seven, seven, UCLA, Cal. - Now Bill Simmons fucking said that this team is going to win 10 games. He could see UCLA winning 10 games. If they going to win 10 games, it's got to start right now. - Right. - They just have to beat Cal tonight. - And JKS versus Nikko. I mean, that's a great matchup. - Great game, man. Also, it's another beautiful California color game, man. I just love the way it looks. - I love Cal's uniforms. I love these uniforms. - Yeah. - Yeah, yeah. - 31 to three, LSU. - I love that. - Also an ACC big 10 showdown. We love that. One other reaction I wanted to get your reaction to. Oklahoma State, the season is already over. I mean, a lot of hype. Drew Mestemaker, Eric Morris. This is supposed to be, hey, we're bringing North Texas over to Oklahoma State. We're going to actually be a team worth watching this year. They go on the road to Tulsa and we get a no-show. - That's a bad loss, but I mean, man. - Monster Big 12. - They were horrible last year. - Monster, big, 12, energy league. - Monster Big 12. - Big L. - The thing that must be disturbing is like, we didn't know how Drew Mestemaker was going to play. That's a slightly higher level of football, but not really because they would have played, they could have played Tulsa in that conference, but. - And North Texas looked great last year. - Yeah, they did. - Mestemaker played great in big games. - No, but see, no, he didn't though. Because when Mestemaker played in the eighth. - You grinded the tape. - Yeah, I grinded the tape. In the high profile game against USF, he was terrible. And in the eighth, in American championship game, he was terrible. And they played behind those holes. - So you're saying when the lights are bright. - Yeah, yeah. And so like, this is like, yo, like this is your big game. And you look like that against Tulsa. That's, I don't know. I would, but the thing is though is like, don't get overly concerned about it. They were a bad team last year. Like what are you supposed to expect this year? - Why did they start the season at Tulsa? - That is crazy. - That's a great question. - That is crazy. - I actually like it because it shows that you're not afraid to go on the road. It's also great for Tulsa to get that game, but that can't be the result. Like that'll never happen again, I guess. That's probably in the future for Oklahoma State. - Oh, I was like, no, why would you take that game? - And honestly, a lot of the first year head coaches have had, you know, Golish, as we mentioned before, Summer all had a great start. So, like, everyone's having, like, you know, for the most part, good starts. But Eric Morris is the only one that's on the wrong side of that. And obviously, Kyle Whittingham was going to be. He would be the bigger story. So, Oklahoma State's probably even more upset that that happened than they got the one second. Because now, they're the big upset that we're going to talk about. And obviously, Clemson will be discussed if this game continues to trend this way. 31-3 right now, if you're not keeping up on this game. And LSU just looks dominant, to say the least. So, guys, I haven't been on Twitter in, like, a month. Oh, you finally went back. So, I logged on to tweet out that Western Michigan got job. Man, I'm getting fucking killed on Twitter for many different things, the takes that I've had over the past month. What? Because, I mean, you're in a lot of different circles, talking about a lot of different topics. So, you bring in, like, the Marvel Cinematic Universe comic world. You got the sports world. You got the political commentary world. You're not afraid. I mean, you mixed it up. This thread's not satisfying, you know? Three. This does satisfy me. Now, I got to get off Twitter again. Bye, Twitter. But I just wanted to tweet. It's not satisfying. I wanted to tweet. That's why you went back to Twitter. In support, bro. Come on to Blue Sky, dog. Of Western fucking Michigan, bro. Can we say that? That's a rule this year. There will be no more skeeting. No, man. Can't skeet anymore. One big question. You kind of touched on this, Van, a little bit. Why receiver one in college football? We got four Heisman poses. What's up? You were right. Once again, man, whatever advice Tate gives y'all this year, take it. Because Clemson's going with the new quarterback at halftime. Tate Reynolds. That's what Tate said before the game. He's like, I bet they're going to get beat so bad, and you never know if Tate Reynolds is going to play. I said they're going to get some garbage points to make it look closer than it actually is. FBI, man, you might want to come. That's some good information, man. I mean, he's predicted the game exactly. Well, I guess it's not quite. I said it was going to be 21 to 3 when they made the decision. It's 31 to 3. Also, the turnover on the first drive for LSU. Yeah, man. So Clemson not able to capitalize on that. I guess they got three points. But they should have got at least a first down. People get tired of losing like that, man. When you go up against the big dogs. Especially a smart fan base like Clemson football fans. They really don't like that. They know football. That's humiliating. You know, LSU does not have their fastball right now. Keep saying this. It's a fact. It is. What does that say? Just being honest, what does that say about the Clemson team right now? They're not good. Like, OK, we look at the stats of this game. LSU is playing good, dominant defensive football. They're playing dominant football in the trenches on the run game. They're playing good, dominant defensive football in the trenches on the run game. But they have not figured out parts of their offense yet. And they still, they're kind of one-dimensional and still are not able to, Clemson still isn't able to stop what LSU is doing. Well, the thing about Clemson when they were great was the D-line and O-line were never a question. And in this game, they're getting absolutely worked on both sides of the ball so far. And I think that says a lot. Well, I was like, the D-line has always been a question. But even when the offensive line was like, OK, but not great. They had generational talents at quarterback and at wide receiver. Yeah, the skilled. And it's just like, you can just see the eros. I mean, Westco and Moore are really good, but they're not Sammy Watkins. They're not, you know, old boy. You know what I'm saying? I never forget my dad said, he's like, he's not a very attractive looking person. Who? I just want you to figure it out. The other guy, he played for the Texans for a little bit, man. DeAndre Hopkins. He's not DeAndre Hopkins. None of these guys are that. Are you saying that DeAndre Hopkins don't look good? Like, my dad said that. Wait, he doesn't? He's DeAndre Hopkins, bro. You the man, as far as what we can tell. Also, DeAndre Hopkins. Oh, man. That nigga probably hitting hoes and doing all kinds of crazy shit. He's on Georgia Tech staff, by the way. That's right. Should we hit on that, by the way? My dad was hating me. Coach. Yes, he was. He was. Coach Prime gets a win in Atlanta. That's a big story. Yeah. That's a big story. Belichick wins week zero. Coach Prime, week one. So, think about this. Last year, we thought that Belichick and Coach Prime were going to be gigantic stories for us. We had a whole segment. They ended up not being gigantic stories for us. Both. Both guys were kind of thought as irrelevant afterthoughts. They both get wins in the first week. Yeah. Both get wins in the first week. And the wins from both of them say so much about their respective teams. Colorado, say what you will, it wasn't a phenomenal game by Juju, but Juju made plays at the end of the game, and Colorado dominated, pushed around Georgia Tech in the trenches. Said they were small before the game. Yeah. That's what Georgia Tech does. And also, what Georgia Tech does is block kicks. They lead the country in block kicks, and at the end of the game, Colorado. Colorado turns on its head, and they get the block hit over Aiden Burr, who's supposed to be the best kicker in the country. He goes two for four in that game. Yeah. Well, I mean, the thing is, it was another one of those things that we thought Colorado, they won in spite of being like, they did not look good, and they were losing. We thought at the end of that game, it was like, oh, Juju Lewis is not going to be able to put it together. But again, if you win your first game, you can always say, well, we'll never be worse than we are today, and we're going to get better. And so, that's what you hope. That's what you hope you can build off of Michigan, and that's what you can say. And I thought Alberto Mendoza was pretty solid for the most part in that game, but the fact that Mendoza wasn't able to get a run game. I mean, Justice Haynes comes over from Michigan, looked good early, and then he just got stuffed the rest of the game. I just logged out of Twitter. You're out. All right. All right. So, that's another day. For how long? I probably won't go back, man. Twitter makes me very reactive. Threads. I'm going to be honest with Threads, though. Threads is a good hang. Threads is okay, but I haven't seen the sports on Threads like talking about. I don't even bother. I just want to call Threads out real quick. Shout out to Threads. I want to call Threads out. Y'all toxic as fuck as well. I thought they were fine. I just want to. No. It's bad. No. I want to let y'all know that y'all left. I just say whatever on Threads. It's like the worst of black Twitter with. The worst of black Twitter. It's like the worst of black Twitter. The essence. The Threads. Right. So, this is what. I don't know if it's the worst of black Twitter. Yeah. I mean, we're not. Okay. Maybe not the worst. So, you're saying the worst of black Twitter, the worst of black women is what you're saying? Is that what it is? Well, you're saying. Because if you talk about black Twitter. No. I'll be getting people that are defending Jay-Z and shit on there. Okay. Whatever. I'm saying something. Do you know what Threads is like to me? Yeah. Be careful. Do y'all remember when the. I'm not trying to. Whatever. Y'all remember when. You're instigating. No. Just listen. Do y'all remember when the Israelites got kicked out of Egypt or they left Egypt? Remember this? Oh. What? Okay. Do you remember when the Israelites. You're talking about this like he talks about 1972. Okay. Just listen. Just listen. This is. So, the Israelites. The Israelites were delivered from Egypt by Moses. I don't know if y'all heard this story before. It's in the Bible. Part of the Red Sea. Before I was born. Okay. Cool. Yeah. Yeah. But do you remember when they got out there and then they made their own golden calf? They started wilding. Do you remember when they had the golden calf? They leave Egypt and then they get out there and all of a sudden everything's gone. Moses leaves and then they make the golden calf and they going crazy. Threads is like them with the golden calf. They have their own idolatry. They have their own thing. They just re-fucking created everything that they were complaining about on Twitter was and then put it on Threads. You know, I just. Yeah. I guess. When I'm on Threads, I think, oh man, there's a lot of bots. I feel like I can never really tell how many because I'm like, you're not even following me. How did you even find this? I don't have a lot of followers here. So, why are you even here? Okay. Because you're looking for your fans. Yeah. Send people to follow you. How do they follow you on Threads? At by Joel Anderson. Yeah. At by Joel Anderson. Yeah. What other teams are we missing? Oklahoma. Who else? The U. What about Miami? What about Malachi Toney? What about the Heisman? I was going to talk about this. So, one big question. Who is wide receiver one after week one? So, obviously, Malachi Toney breaks Miami record, 12 receptions, 234 yards, three touchdowns, three Heisman poses in week one. Jeremiah Smith, eight receptions, 151, two touchdowns, one Heisman pose from him to Corey Moore, six for 93 in a TD. Ryan Coleman Williams, obviously, the big drop that everyone got on. You know, X. But after that, had a really good game, five receptions, 130 yards. Cetania, four for 76 in a touchdown. Cam Coleman, three receptions and two touchdowns. Why is everybody acting like I said something out of pocket? I was talking about the Exodus. This is a Bible. Whatever. Go ahead. Fuck you guys. Oh, the Gators are upset about this? No, the Gators are upset. The Gators are like, that's wild. It's in the Bible. It's like, this will be the mill. Ten commandments. I think when you said Israelites, people just thought of that. They kind of threw them off a little bit. But they like it when Kendrick says it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Yeah. All right. Okay. So you were saying who's right receiver one. Yeah. This week is Malachi Tony to me. Yeah. Of course. Yeah. Right. Yeah. I mean, the question is, like, who's number two? Man, De'Corey Moore looked good today, man. I mean, I think it's Jeremiah Smith versus Malachi Tony. And Jeremiah Smith basically did all of his damage in one half. And Malachi Tony. What it looked like to me, Jeremiah Smith is just completely unguardable. He's like completely unguardable in a one on one. You can't bracket him. You can't do anything to stop him. Too big. Too strong. Too fast. His hands are too good. It does look like, though, that the way Malachi Tony is used in Miami's offense, that he's going to get touches and opportunities to make plays behind the line of scrimmage, using his legs over the top in seems feels very Percy Harvin. Absolutely. But Percy Harvin is also a legitimate deep threat. And it seems like he might get way get opportunities to make plays in ways that Jeremiah Smith won't, because he's more of a traditional wide receiver. But some of that stuff, too. But if you're looking for somebody that's going to pop off the screen and maybe be like a Heisman type of guy and capture everybody's imagination, I mean, three poses, Malachi Tony might be that guy. Yeah, that's right. I mean, they can they can get him to ball a lot easier. He does a lot with it. I mean, you think, oh, man, he's like one ninety or maybe he might be up to one ninety five or something like that. He didn't seem like he's as strong as he is. There's a couple of people that did that already. They're calling me Van Pyke. And that's your boy? That's my guy. Shout out to his son, bro. He's a good guy. He's a good guy. He's a good guy. He's a good guy. Yeah. Anyway, go ahead. What? Oh, what are you talking about? Jeremiah Smith, you're going on. No, I wouldn't say anything about that. I was telling him. Oh, you got sidetracked by him. Yeah, because Van was saying that. So it is Malachi Toney's world that we're living in. Yeah, of course. He was incredible in week one, obviously. Man, he's saying Darion Mensah looks so good, too. Oh, yeah, he is. He looks great. Perfect. Looked like a veteran in the offense, man. Like, dealing, operating. Okay, let me ask you. Let me tell you. So who is the best Miami quarterback of your lifetime? Ken Dorsey? Almost has to be. I would probably say still, yeah, I mean, Dorsey is the right, probably the right answer, but I still like Cam Ward. Oh, okay. Well, I mean, you could say Cam Ward's better, but Ken Dorsey, yeah, it's probably Cam Ward. He's the number one pick. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But Ken Dorsey was the man on it, but he had a surrounding. He's like a system quarterback. Yeah, exactly. But it's probably Cam Ward. Well, the point I was going to say is that, like, Darion Mensah, he looks like he could be of that caliber of a guy. Like, you know, Carson Beck, good, solid, above average. Carson Beck was great, especially at the end of the year. Darion Mensah just feels like, oh, he just gives them a whole nother dimension. Carson Beck couldn't move, man. But Darion Mensah's a good athlete, and he looks like a pro as like a quarterback. One thing I saw from Mensah in that game, too, it was like, obviously Malachi Toney's getting 12 receptions, getting a lot of targets. But it did feel like at one point he was like, okay, I got to get Barkay at the ball, too. And obviously they were at Duke together last year. Somebody said Ja'Cory Harris. Hey, by the way. Wasn't he in the year of the bull? No, Ja'Cory Harris was the one that promised. He promised he was going to wear a pink Gucci suit. Yeah, he called himself Ja' Heisman. I'm going to tell you guys. And North Carolina had four picks on him right after that. Shout out to Ja'Cory. He's a fighter. He's a firefighter in New Orleans. In Miami, I was about to say. He's a firefighter in Miami. But I'll say this. I'll say this. Ja'Cory Harris, there was like a four-game stretch. At the beginning of the season. Well, he looked. But there's eight more games. I know. Then he played North Carolina in Butch Davis' defense, and they said they were calling him Santa Claus because he was giving out gifts. Yeah, five turnovers in that game. Yeah, it was great. Great time. Can we get Twinkle Ball right here on the full screen here? Can we get UCLA? I guess you don't want to see no more New Mexico and Central Michigan. I mean, y'all want to. This game, this UCLA game right here. Somebody should call me. This UCLA game is very important for the Ringer. The Ringer's gone full in on UCLA. You mentioned a couple teams that you wanted to hit outside of the ones we've talked about so far. So let's do contender, pretender. I got two teams for you. Let's start with the first one. Willie Fritz in Houston. Contender, pretender. Come on, man. I mean, what are you doing? You're doing this to shit on the Big 12. I thought Oregon State gave us some trouble. What is Houston contending to do? What are you saying they're contending to do, Tate? To contend to make the playoff. Okay. Right? Okay. I would say pretender. I don't think. I don't think very many people were saying Houston was a playoff contender this year. To win the Big 12. I think they were. Who picked Houston? I saw. I'll play with you. I think you did. Why do you take the Big 12 stuff so personally? You guys. I mean, I just. I knew it was some ho shit. You were trying. You were trying. You were trying to diss the Big 12. I was trying to get your reaction to Houston. You were a major pretender. No. I mean, yeah. They look like a team that is ranked number 23 in the country. That's a top 25 team. You would think they were a little better. 26, 27, 28. Joe. Joe. Was it a good week for. Just so far. Did you like what you saw? The monster. Power. Big 12. Energy league. Was it a good week? Can you just say yes or no? Was it a good week? It wasn't a good week. Monster. Right. Power. Big 12. Energy league. Well, you know, BYU. Man, BYU got Utah Tech the fuck out of here. Utah Tech. 63 to 7. Shout out to BYU for handling business in that game. They got them. Texas Tech. You know. They won by three scores over Abilene Christian. I did think Houston was a team that would be under consideration. So, that's why I put them there. The other team I did want to talk about, which is more fascinating, because we were impressed by them. Boise State. Oh, yeah. Contender. Pretender. That could be a G5 team. Could be a G5 team. And that. Gave Oregon everything they wanted. On the. G6. On the road. At Austin. Into that game. Deep into the fourth quarter. Didn't make some of the mistakes that Western Michigan made by not taking the points early on. Like, Boise State. To me. To me. Played to the limit of their capability as a football team. Well coached. Executed in ways that they can. When they gave up stuff, it was just because they got out-athleted on the back side. Yeah. And they were playing against guys who are going to be playing on Sundays. But they never backed down in that game. Never backed down at all. And to me, that bodes well for them when they play teams that are closer to their talent level. That's good for the Pac-12. Because Fresno State at USC did not look good for the new Pac-12. But Boise State on the road. Old. Back 12 versus new Pac-12. Yo, man. Also, another thing. I'm glad you mentioned Fresno State. So people kind of forgot. And I don't know if it's because it's been a few years since he's been in the spotlight. That Gary Patterson is legitimately like one of the best defensive minds in college football. Of the last 20, 30 years. Yeah. And he's on the sideline at USC. And he took that two running back system that Fresno State has where they're like, we're going to ground and pound and be one of the best rushing teams in the country. They couldn't get anything on USC. Yeah, man. They look. I mean, that's that's something that could be game changing for USC to have that kind of a defense the way they played early in the end. Again, they didn't have great depth and they gave up a lot of points at the end of that San Jose State game. But it's also they had the third stringers. Yeah. Saving some guys. Well, I mean, I just kind of feel like if you're a great team, even your third stringers ain't letting San Jose State get up on you. It talks to the depth. But I think that's the difference in today's game, though. But yeah, like SC looked phenomenal. Friday night. Yeah. Friday night. They looked they looked really, really good. And they look like a team. They look like a team that has a clear identity on both offense and defense, which is what I think. I think a lot of people want to see from from Lincoln Riley. You want to see a team that like had a real identity and you could tell how they're going to win games instead of just, you know, it always felt like Lincoln Riley's team. The offense is going to be great. The defense is going to be an afterthought. I think with Gary Patterson there, it's like you got a guru on both sides of the ball. Yeah, they're just. Yeah, they're just like, oh, wow. They've got kind of everything they need. You know, so people are saying that they thought that Joel was tall. And Tate is looking stacked next to you. What does that mean? They're saying that Tate looks like he's about six foot seven. Don't go down lower, nigga. They say that Tate looks like he's about six foot seven. Tate looks like Ricky Rowe from Blue Chips. Well, I mean, what are we? We're both. You're six, three, six, four. Yeah. I'm six, two. Yeah. You're six, two? Yeah, you're five. I'm five, eleven. Are you five, eleven? You said it kind of. No one's five, eleven. Billy, what? Billy's six, two. Six, two? Yeah. Billy, I think about it. You're six, one, six, two. You're kind of like, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter, yeah. If you're five, eleven, you're like, I'm five. When you're five, nine, you're like, I'm five, eleven. It's a game of inches. That's fine. That's fine. People like your shirt tonight, Joel. They do? They said it's a TED Talk shirt, a brownie paper top shirt. Joel and Tate looking R&B sharp. My wife just texted me earlier. She'd be like, you look like you're falling asleep. Did you talk too much earlier? But she's the one that got this shirt. Someone asked if it's cashmere. No, it's not. Did you know I'm. It looks like. So my wife got Fashion Nova for men. This is Fashion Nova for men, right? So you're going to wash that bitch once and it's done. Is that with Fashion Nova? I didn't even know Fashion Nova did that. Yeah, Fashion Nova. It's a good looking shirt, but you're going to wash that bitch once. I wouldn't wash it. It's already actually fucking up at the top. I can see it. No, I got an undershirt. No, no. I'm talking about like on the collar of the shirt. You know what you should do? If you're not going to wash that, you should sign that and send it to a Gator. Yeah. Game worn shirt. No. Why? Well, pick one random Gator tonight. You'll send him your shirt. Pick the one they call it a soft and make him have to send it to that person. I've never. Just so you guys know, I've never had a family of five. I'm good with my height. Nobody. Yeah. Somebody was saying I was like, I'm cool with Joe. One of the Gators wants to know why you never were a nice shirt doing the show from home. That's a great question. Gators. Oh, I mean, you don't want to look nice at home. Well, no, I mean, I just want to just on our show, though. I want to wear college bacon collar. I like trying to. I like I like trying to show the college shirt. I'm going to wear one of my college shirts from this trip on Wednesday. Yeah. You got what? You got two or three Compton College shirts and you got an Anteaters UC Irvine shirt. I did. So those are the first things that Joe did when he shot. Shout out Annette. It works. The student services. Yeah. I wanted to give her a shot, man, because she stayed past 430. Yeah. And she gave me I pulled up and she was like, yo, we done. The bookstore was closed, but they just had shirts laying around. And so she gave me some. Compton college shirts. And then I went and got a, um, UC Irvine ant eater shirt. Yeah. Yeah. Just a standard one, not a specific team. But then you also drove around Compton. We're asking people where the Crips, Hey, Hey, Joe drove around Compton and was trying to figure out which guys any guy in a blue hat rolled down the window. It was like training day with Joel. Hey, you like to get wet. Okay. No, listen. Hey, you like to get, I know you like to get Joel, Joel looking like a straight fucking cop cop today. When you came in with that hat on backwards, straight fucking cop. You look like a cop too. Maybe I'm telling you, right. But you can't say that I'm rolling around asking people, yo, you look like a cop to take bribes and shit. So you would be, so you would be a cop. You would be part of the thin blue line. Well, wait, I'll be in the community. I'm just, you know, I go in, you know, with a full, you know, heart being like i want to make a difference joel bunk anderson that's what the guy that the guy that was uh driving the truck that was freddie gray died in that was what he was saying he was just like you know i wouldn't go why would you bring up freddie gray on the college we're in peace dog what you trying what you got going on i've covered that story and the dude was like man i just wanted to go in my community and really help people and he seemed sincere like he was like he was from this neighborhood and i was like okay like i don't agree with policing like that but if you got that that's the right way to go into it but anyway all right let's do some quick hitters now that joel's gotten that off his chest uh west virginia officially retired legendary quarterback pat white's number five prior to the season obviously close game with coastal carolina they found a way to win uh salute to pat white obviously a lot of conversation about retiring number fives but pat white feels like a number five that should be retired he was a dog he was a dog four bowl games uh they were talking major harris's number there i mean i don't i don't know i think major harris was number nine and don't ask me is that is that a crazy question i think it was more about like hey pat white salute that's great no i'm just wondering how many other is he though because major harris was a really good quarterback for west virginia and if like i would wonder if his number was retired well a number five he's in the college football hall of fame so presumably his number would be do you think that they did this because like of course they should do this or is this like a response to the jayden daniel situation where they kind of went where hey we should retire number five here i actually think that this is more about rich rod trying to make people remember restore the feeling steve slade noel divine right like what remind you what it used to be like around here when you're trying to uh bring your team back to his glory days and you are the architect of those just make people remember what it was like to support those teams when they were at their most fun and they were so fun i see west virginia dog it's one of those schools though it's like you kind of got to win with the dudes that florida wouldn't take and not because they couldn't play but it was like hey man you might have something you know i'm saying in this record where but you know like i will say this towards the very end of the rich rod will run towards the very end of it they started to pick off guys that you were like ah man you could see the team getting over the top for a national championship at some point you're right about what you're saying yeah like even like um when they got to see uh if he doesn't go to michigan in the mix right but see noel devine was one of those kids it's like oh he's supposed to go somewhere else but you know and he ended up kind of ended up in west virginia but like they started getting really dynamic players that other schools wanted towards the end of the run there they had just started to kind of get into that situation and look i'm gonna y'all mine up real quick do they have oliver lux number uh uh retired at west virginia i doubt it i think jerry wesson oh no dog major harris's number was retired in 2021. who major harris major harris major harris major harris was retired in 2021. who major harris major harris 2021. i saw him play what's crazy is that he was like searching for this and you found it well i said where did you go numbers what did you use i was using wikipedia google.com yeah number 77 is retired for bruce bosley 75 for sam huff okay 33 for hot rod hundley 21 for ira rogers hundley is a smoky johnson every day i mean that he said he either was a racist or he was like one of the first black people to ever play it that's right there's one of the two which is hot hot rod hundley the basketball player look at him oh okay let's see i'm going to i'm looking at oh man rest in peace hot rod dog i don't know he's got a game he looked like he is a nice guy yeah yeah hot rod that game that's beautiful man he's from charleston he went to school there do you want to retract yeah yeah you play where you're from you want to retract what you just said a minute yeah say something nice about don't say that about how don't say that he could have been a racist no no no say something good like man yeah man he was the first round pick bro yeah there you go that's something yeah first he's the first number one draft pick oh he was real he's the overall he's the first round first pick hot rod hundley okay man that's a classic trivia you know you're gonna trivia night now you're gonna have that in your back man he had a rough upbringing bro his parents divorced when he was young after his father abandoned his teenage mother shortly after hundley was born he was sent to live with various relatives and friends in charleston and was placed in foster homes where he was abused and neglected let me tell you something how ryan hundley could have became a crip that's not what he did right he turned himself into something he turned himself into something and by the way shout out to my crips because y'all turn yourselves into something man that's my crib that really got the hood bro like he had people talk when people talk about i grinded or like i'm from the bottom you talking about how i'm talking about if if if i was a republican and somebody was complaining to me about how bad they had it i was like you didn't have it you know you don't know the coal miners he's a hot rod i mean the thing that the thing that the thing that caught my attention was this actually it was like he was finally placed with a kindly older couple living with them until he was 16. though his bedroom was a closet under the stairs and they're small like harry potty this is the last thing in high school hundley lived alone in a cheap hotel i saw i was like god damn i was like i'm gonna tell you shut up and you called him a racist yeah if he was i mean i could kind of understand why it's like the fact that they haven't made a movie yet about holiday okay should we make it we should make the hot rod hundley movie bro it's tough because high rod already came out like you know andy sandberg hot rod but i mean we can figure out that one didn't catch on yeah why did they call him oh yeah he had also been in talks he passed away in 2015. okay he had also been in talks for a movie that would showcase his early childhood and basketball career he's the subject of the hot rod documentary the untold story of hot rod honey who would who would we get to play that that's the real question who hard rod hundley right now yeah who we're playing like chalamet well three though yeah we have to shoot a low angle you got to get jacob and lordy to play hot rod oh yeah that'd be good man i gotta see i gotta see that documentary bro yeah we're gonna have to watch that uh some more quick hitters i want to hit james franklin first game for virginia tech and uh the inner sandman was incredible if you didn't see the video go check that out uh always a good tradition in college football and also virginia tech 73 points in this game against vmi i mean they look really good i mean obviously it's vmi but again first game james franklin made a statement like virginia tech fans it went the way you want because yeah and on the other hand your debut game at home could be against western michigan yeah you know what i'm saying yeah yeah so yeah now that we know that that is a possibility good congratulations ucla just takes a lead by the way okay oh look at my boy he's doing hot rod went back to college to graduate 43 years after leaving his alma mater wow what a legend yeah razor rule for hot yeah man he might be my new favorite player someone's like who's your favorite player i'm like hot rod hunting uh love his game uh shout out to blacksburg i was happy to see that atmosphere back i want them to be good again so that was fun uh another one as far as like pointing out guys and moments phazon brandon for tennessee 226 past yards 68 rush yards five total touchdowns first sec player with three passing touchdowns two rushing touchdowns in his first start since our guy gator cam newton cam wow phazon brandon i mean again doing the other thing they're doing it old school style because we're going to turn it over to this very talented young freshman and see if we can grow with him we can build a program around them so there's some benefits to that and you can you can see we haven't talked about texas by the way can i say something we haven't we have talked about you know who i don't like who rd constant in the chat oh oh what happened rd constant in the chat is a mild content he's like i'm shocked we're talking about hot rod like he's a nobody y'all don't recognize him wasn't he abroad no we didn't know hot rod we knew hot rod yeah you knew all right yeah i mean i've heard that name before but i didn't know i i ever was a hot rod expert all of a sudden yeah right i didn't know hot rod huntley bro but shout out i did not know who that was for real but shout out to hot rod huntley man yeah i'm not but i'm not as much of a college basketball guy as you are and he was born in 1934. joe remembers watching his games yeah but i mean i've heard the name hot rod huntley because it's not a funny name until today but today i was like oh it's always like the second because jerry what when you think of western basketball you go jay west and then like he's you know don't forget about hot rod this episode is brought to you by american home shield saturdays are for football but whether it's rivalry week or bowl season home systems like your ac and plumbing always seem to break down at the worst time that's why you need an american home shield home warranty ahs can fix covered 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and to learn more about we go v why wait another name another guy to point out in our quick hitters mason heinzel uh for pittsburgh seven touchdowns that tied a pit football record dan marino obviously played at pit um so did kenny pickett uh but he's the first acd quarterback since at least 95 with 450 passing yards and seven plus tds so raise the roof yeah i mean when was the last time you heard pittsburgh putting up some offense like that that's crazy that's good to see man i think pittsburgh is always a little underrated when it comes down to it uh some more quick hitters we mentioned ruckers losing that game but wanted to give you mass some love i mean this is the team that was in the doldrums they lost their last 16 games yeah i mean but i mean i mean of course it's fantastic that umass won they've been down in the hey freeze hey who's who's got the control of the thing jeff who controls it jeff block rd constant what are you doing man block the chat really block constant what do you do i'm fucking around i'm fucking around because he's still upset about he's still he's upset he's actually no don't block him seriously he's actually what i will tell you that i did shout out to uh shout out to my man uh connor over a power hour lsu but i used to watch him after the lsu yeah you love the tigers and and he he would lsu took a bad loss and and people were in the what our account just said goodbye to rd connor constant don't block him don't block him i have seen people that like sometimes alabama will beat you or florida will beat you and then they come in there and my man uh he's like get him out i like it uh all right a few more things tennessee pays tribute to dolly parton uh singing i will always love you that was a nice moment i'm just talking about tennessee yeah with uh faze on brandon that was good uh and then as far as like the lsu of it all i had all this stuff with uh daquan wright and xavian harris but we're past that we're on the football um all right some more stuff counter play zag of the day anything that happened i'll give you mine first josh hoover the bloody nose i know a lot of people were saying that was like a rough hit his team should have got upset i thought it was a great kind of moment for him to kind of lock into the gritty nature of kurt signetti playing with the bloody nose got some great screen caps today you know so josh hoover that's my zag of the day a little counter play i like the bloody nose oh you like the bloody i like the bloody i think it looked i thought it was like old school football for some reason it seems like it went along with the signetti brand of football it to me it felt like an initiation of like welcome to sig football yeah i mean you look man that's your guy by the way look man and people say what sig football signetti see you don't like city man i gotta take a drink sig football i don't like the way that sounds like sick football i don't like i don't like i like signet i like i like sick football yeah no but i like the bloody nose i'm glad he didn't clean up you know that was good yeah good for him man uh oh i'll do my bag do your zag man oh no we're just okay real quick about hoover i know there are a lot of tc fans that are bitter about josh hoover leaving and they're like they think you need to be mad about it or whatever and i'm like no i'm happy for you i'm excited i'm excited because you it was really kind of telling that he said he wanted to develop more on the coach signet he's been at tcu for three years though but you know but he felt like isn't that damning this sunny day it is sort of damning but he was like i there's more to me that i need to explore and he's gonna get to compete and the atmosphere in bloomington looked great today even though it's hot as shit down there in the big 10 yeah he's in the big 10 yeah he escaped he moved no he went to the national champion he went to the national champion just again you could you could have gone to purdue no he went to no no no just purdue but he went to indiana he didn't just go to the big 10 well he did go to the yeah yeah or it'd be like going to georgia and the sec it's like wow you went to the yes right but he did there's a recent he did championship vintage he did yeah go to i mean there were some reports that he heard about the monster deal and he was like i gotta get out i can't wear that energy let me let me go ahead so the thing about oregon my zag of the day is i think oregon's game with boys to stay is good for him it's like i think if you're damn landing that's one of those things you say oh i would take away they don't look like a title team so you're zagging off that and say you actually thought it was good i think yeah it doesn't i didn't think you wouldn't feel great about them today but you'd say oh okay like we escaped that's the most important thing we got punched in our mouth we still have a lot of talent and we stuck through it and you know pull it out of man so you know maybe you know that's it's just one of those things can be a galvanizing thing at the end of the year it's like okay like we saw what we needed to do got in a tussle yeah we found we found out well we got we got tested by a good team and didn't suffer for it because sometimes you play that game like like well michigan basically almost did yeah yeah you play that game and then it's you go you know boise state's a good team too yeah and that's the thing man so for dan landing and oregon i feel like that's pretty good i that's my choice is like the most talented team probably the number one team and so for them to you know come out there i still feel good about it i'm like all right that's look we let's go on one game beat boise state and let's get so you're spinning it positive because you famously said they were the best team in the country yes i think they meanwhile a lot of the other top 10 teams blew out teams but they didn't play boise state that's all right they didn't play a team and a program with this history of structure yeah this coaching should be one of the best teams in the back 12 yeah boise state goes into austin and that's like we play that you know right that's like you know a regional yeah remember that game very vividly but my zag is that i think notre dame we're gonna see the best team in college football right now play tomorrow man you really put a lot of pressure on him man like we're gonna see the best team in college football play tomorrow like we've seen all the teams and even the teams that are dominant like i think show weaknesses that can be exploited i think notre dame is going to show that they are probably right now and maybe i could be wrong but this is my zags but it's a zag you zagging like i believe that notre dame is going to show that right now at this point they're the best they're the best team in college football speaking of notre dame let's just look at those games tomorrow because if you're not keeping up with college football there are three great games tomorrow we got the apple cup to open up today on nbc wazoo versus washington in seattle wisconsin notre dame in lambeau field uh that'll be a fun game and then louisville old miss uh at the end of the night in nashville so those are three great games joel of those three games which one are you most excited oh man louisville old miss because we're going to really find out what might be the best game of the weekend again old miss one of those top 10 teams you know they have a lot of potential but the thing is they've got a great base they've got trinidad chandler's q1 lacey maybe the best quarterback and running back combo in the country and then they got a whole bunch of new faces man and so you want you know we're going to find out what else they've got uh and louisville is one of those times you test yourself like that you might they could around and lose like louisville can beat them so um trinidad chambliss and his march to the heisman what if tomorrow we see the best team notre dame and the best player the best player trinidad chambliss for for old miss old miss who is a team is a very quality football team right yeah i don't know how many people are saying that old miss has an opportunity to like not an opportunity that old miss is a legitimate national championship contender this year maybe they are maybe they don't know how important is it for trinidad chambliss for old miss football to get to new york win the heisman trophy establish himself as the best player i'll tell you why i'm saying this it's because old miss had kind of changed the the story on them in college football right yeah we're a team that would have some up years some years you look at old miss and you'd be like look at all of the talent and stuff like that and they'd be scary teams and they were a quality program the kwan treadwell can dj can dj all these guys eli manning whomever you want to talk about like uh what was my man from the saints i just see deuce mccallister like you they've had players right they've had players big receivers all this stuff it seemed as if with the run that they made last year and with the top yeah a.j brown with it with the run that they made last year and the the way that they had been playing and during the time that that lane was there that they had kind of changed what people thought about them you expected quality football and they must maintain that and having a good season would be one thing but having a heisman trophy winner or a guy that goes to new york still signals that your football team is playing at an elite level and it feels like even if they were not to win the sec or were not to like make a deep playoff run that having that type of prestige at the university would still be uh very meaningful yeah what we could find out is like oh we're not going to win the sec we're not going to win the sec we're not That playoff run was real. Right. You're basically trying to make sure Pete Golding wasn't just landing in a bottle. Yeah, right. Exactly. So that was a real thing that happened here, and we're here to stay. People are calling for Pablo to do an expose on your shirt. What? They want Pablo to message them. This is what you get when you try to do shit, man. Someone asked for those pajamas. Another person asked if it's made of wool. You don't like it? There's a lot of people. I think it's a nice shirt. I like it. My wife got it for me, though. I think it's like Teflon or something. Really? Touch it. I think it is. It's a nice. Yeah, it's thick material. How do we decide who gets that shirt after this broadcast? Oh, yeah. I think we should give it to Artie. We should give it to Artie. but if we give it to rd constant rd constant you gotta wear it you gotta wear it it's in the photo in hey look at nico playing volleyball dog oh i bet he's dirty at volleyball he just had a 33 yard pass oh this nigga's going crazy bro this is actually more impressive than watching him play football yeah it is it's crazy how good they're they are volleyball i would have never guessed that polly had a volleyball team i know california is different but california loves volleyball yeah and i mean you know my janae's cousin the white side she had a cousin who was on a surfing team in high school yeah yeah i was like san clemente has like three of the top 10 servers in the world who san clemente yeah in california yeah what if we shred your shirt and put it in like trading cards oh yeah like little pieces yeah i'm not i'm not also gonna figure that out rd constant is the number one uh the best part is when we did this last year g52 is number two we did this last year our first live stream and joel was the number one commenter in the chat remember that and he was talking to himself i'll go i'll go back to uh interacting with him when i go back home yeah i'll be in my you know because we can see that you're not focused in did you want to clear up why you're looking for crips earlier or no yeah people are at i didn't say it like that but you guys 38 3 lsu 33 lsu damn dabble um hey i'm gonna be real i'm gonna be real a lot of people thought that lsu might win this game big i don't know if anyone was thinking that it was gonna be i did not think it would be this bad oh i mean i thought that clemson kind of had a nice lead into this game i thought it could go i thought the two options were clemson pulls off an upset over a distracted slap right lsd or that first interception calamitous fact that first interception if you just stopped right there in time and you're like how's this game gonna go i'm like it feels like lsu is gonna struggle and clemson might upset them well my thought was the opposite of it we would see a chris fazina if he was going to win this game i don't know if he's going to win this game if he was like okay he's actually good and there's a reason you know there's a reason they stuck with him and didn't go in the portal and that that's all great but it's like oh no that's not what happened like we just found out oh no they're really bad all over the place and i i mean i'm sure lsu is a playoff contender this year but it's that's that's not what clemson's gotten used to over the last 20 years man can i say something though what a lot of lsu fans are talking about right now i think this is something that i'm going to have to say i'm going to have to say reverberates around college football is what a team looks like when a coach when a coach has a clear vision and an offensive philosophy like you see lsu playing crazy on defense you see everybody bought in and believing and that's just very important in your program if you don't have that then you're not going to play any league level yeah i mean the thing is man for all the theatrics for all the bullshit man lane kiffin has been the best coach in the history of florida atlantic and you know the best coach since desegregation at old miss you know i mean was it johnny vaught that was the old coach at old miss didn't win the segregated era bro it's like so yeah right it's vaught yeah i think johnny vaught so yeah so anyway so yeah but but lane kiffin has been the best coach there in modern history so he's a damn good coach man and so you were reminded of that tonight but also maybe it's like is clemson that much worse than we think like is this a are we looking at a four-win team or is it you know i think part of this is you know lsu coming out of this game is going to be the best coach in the history of florida atlantic out and executing the way they're supposed to and part of it is just like the clemson seems bereft bro like seriously they haven't threatened it very much at all they seem and the thing about all the talent that they lost from last year's team i mean eight players going to the draft it's hard to replenish i know they offered him probably more money but i bet luke forelli got to anybody man i don't know dude he's like hey coach golding i'm actually ready to go that was actually a nice moment when joel was trying to go to a rockefeller party a rock nation party i don't know right now where we where we're at rock nation is not too far from here and we can see people lining up for a rock nation party joel wanted to go oh speaking of that we saw something really interesting down there we saw and i want to chat i want the chat's opinion on this rd constant i hope you're ready i i seriously doubt that there are any women in this chat right we got 775 people you guys came in the season share the chat share it around we want to get these numbers up we're live every saturday we're going to remind people more in the weeks to come i feel like we just kind of you know something right right right also weird day with the weather delay that's right we're not making any excuses we need to be breaking also we're doing it a whole different time slot last year so look so look buzz this week so we're looking now out the window so there's a woman where's the woman she says hey i'm a woman okay mk m kohler 304 got a woman in here dog okay m kohler 3041 okay this is for you you are a woman okay um we are watching i'm gonna raise the roof raise the room for her for one woman um we are watching out the window something happened we're watching a guy earlier today walk up to a woman's two women two women's cars and try to talk to them right he was he was hollering now let's just be real we had seen these women in the car walk up the street to one of the coffee shops yeah and we see why he was trying to talk to them okay it was clear it was clear why he was trying to talk to them careful okay it was clear we had seen these women especially the walk itself was a great reason to try to see what was up okay now why he was while he was talking to them through the window there was a bug that was out there a big bug so big of a bug that we are looking down from the window out of the office and we can see the bug yeah it was crazy while he is talking to him he starts like running from the book yeah he starts shadowboxing shadowboxing the bug the bug he's like ah my question to the women is to the woman the woman my question is if a dude was trying to talk to you and a bug came over while he was trying to talk to you and he starts running from the bug acting like he fakes scared of the bug would that be eternal turn you off i was about to say more crass than that but would that turn you off like would like would that be something that like you go oh my god i'm so scared of the bug all kind of med student is a woman she's in here too dog okay all right so so what is it all right so so we got women in here right so what what somebody said that's like that's funny i'm not gonna repeat that joke already constant but that's funny already constant that was it that was funny by the way ucla yeah putting in work right now the twinkle the twinkle man yeah 21 to 10 okay so tell us and so everybody keeps saying that there's a woman does that give the ick i'm asking and we asked kalika who came in and she said it does give the so we're we're one vote in that it does give the egg and we all discussed that like when there are insects in the home it is kind of on our shoulders absolutely to take care of the insect yeah so if you don't have that ability on the front end we know the thing is it's different it's different when you got to kill a bug in your house as opposed to that but man dude that big that i bet he was humming i bet he was he had to move man i could understand it and if that girl i mean she man she she didn't like you because of that i mean whatever you know what i'm saying she said so m kohler 30 41 said kind of icky but hilarious so she would laugh i mean see he could have made it funny he didn't make it funny though he he he actually was taken out of it i think he handed his phone to them inside the car then went running away from the bug and had to walk back to get the phone from them that's an egg i mean you don't get credit for killing it he didn't kill it he killed it that's right with his foot man he pulled that bitch off using another object though that doesn't count what nah man you gotta just get it out of there what are you talking about could have been smoother now he's got a dead bug what are you supposed to what was he supposed to use so just get it out of there so with what you don't use your hand kai the med student says yes it depends if he's flailing more than me he was flailing so so do you just sit there and take the bike yeah that's exactly that's what joel said joel said you should take the bite no you didn't i said no you should take the bite you gotta no i was i've sympathized with that guy because i would have been him because that's what i'm that person in my family everybody be like they laugh at me because i'm running from a wasp or a bee but i don't want to get stung there's a lot going on because there's also a little kid that was abandoned down the street at the same time fighting couple it could have been a live stream where we just had it on the street right now i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know there and it would have gotten oh you know i was so worried for that little girl man she could she looked she looked like she was about to sign my daughter and i was like man somebody come down there and get that you said you were gonna go down and get i was man that little white baby man she looked like hot rod out there we had to tell you don't go down too soon yeah right i know i mean i was worried about her you know right she was what she said she was cuban no i said it was too soon on the hot rod joke oh i think she was a latina baby that's that's what i was saying yeah well she had her parents there but they were fighting what's hollywood yeah for them all right uh this game is happening twinkle ball feels like the lsu game is out of sorts we'll break down 38 three yeah we'll break that down at some point as to what to do with dabbo but just any parting shots that we have uh you know after the first saturday of the season again week two should be great um we get ohio state texas which is going to be a great matchup we're going to have week three which is lane going back to old miss so it is a little bit like usually week two week three aren't so great but this season they're both got really uh you know heavy games there i am so fascinated to see what michigan looks like against oklahoma man i'm so that's gonna be i can't wait like i don't know if it's gonna be a great game but i'm trembling with anticipation look bob chesney getting the kurt cignetti treatment in this graphic right now wow yeah you guys i just want to let you know that you know we we are twinkle believers here but if ucla is too good this season it's gonna be a nightmare dealing with simmons yeah bill's gonna love it it's just gonna it's just gonna be a night it'd be great for our show though it would be phenomenal yeah but it's just gonna be a nightmare with bill like acting like he's goddamn paul feinbaum it's gonna be crazy yeah paul feinbaum doing paul fine bro on the streets i saw that man everybody everybody gotta go you need to talk to you you need to talk to your guy everybody got to be pet mac you need to reach out to him just tell him you're watching tell him you know what i was so disinterested i didn't even click on the video bro i i sent y'all lol and didn't even look at that what yeah i didn't watch the video i don't know it just didn't look interesting do you not consume what we send you i didn't that clip didn't seem interesting to me should i do something right now yeah yeah should i go to the clemson message board oh yeah let's just see what they're doing yeah i want to hear it let's go to the clemson message i definitely want to see that and see which clemson message so this is tigernet.com this is discussing all things that are clemson football um so these are the top things that they're saying 2000 alabama game 2.0 obviously venables was the secret pathetic fans this is not dabo's fault we look so unathletic and poorly prepared is dabble the worst first game coach one first down in the front in the first half does dabble even care to win anymore or just stick to his my way will work that is an interesting post from them because that shows that the fan base no longer believes that dabble is as invested as he should be why would you i mean why would you he wasn't even doing what it took to win like if the thing is if you don't want to do the portal thing and do it nil i totally understand a lot of coaches left but that's what you got to do you got to leave yeah but if you're going to do the job you're supposed to do it right and and i mean basically you wanted to be kind of like lane kiffin it's like man don't do it i can get you in over here at lsu now it feels like he's doing it like because he kind of has to there are three posts that really piqued my interest here okay here we go here we go here we go here we go here we go one is i hate to see dabble go out like this go out like this yeah damn he's going to you guys point making me wrong the fan base is anticipating and almost expecting the end of dabble's reign there's another one the softest clemson football team in my life wow they we watched them get brutalized and get the ball ran down their throat when lsu could not find a passing offense and then the third one is dabble is bobby boutening our program and if you don't know what that means that means staying on too long like holding on too much to the way you did things and letting college football back do you know how much grambling wanted to get rid of eddie robinson at the end it is actually a documentary i've always wanted to really yeah man it was like it was like man you can't get rid of no i had eddie robinson but he's like dog do you want to win football again or what dog at the beginning of last year but mike gundy is the best coach in oklahoma state history yeah yeah and you would have never thought that he would have had to get fired but eventually they were out there looking at that product and just like i don't i mean how can't why would you spend money on that if you're a booster and then that that's when the real problem starts and he's also on that bygone era you know like it worked when it worked and now it's a totally different game the interesting thing about the eddie robinson thing is the guy who comes along was almost the only guy that the fan base like because it was doug williams yeah so it was almost the only guy that the fan base could come to terms with except yeah like could accept but in this situation looking them not watching the clemson fan base not be pissed off about this game but watching them sort of in mourning says a lot about how they view the coach and what this loss will mean to capital sweeney if there are too many of these like this i i i actually tend to believe with you guys that they'll make a move yeah like think about how pretty they have a game on the sky schedule by the way like if bill belichick in north carolina goes down to clemson and beats them they'll be gone think about how prickly dabbo is and like you know things are like oh kind of bad or just you know mediocre not not great like they were but he just agitated because the team is of the crowd it used to be imagine how it'd be having to face these questions for the next week like about how bad this team was how uncompetitive they are you know you you thought you he's gonna end up bringing up the red sea i know that he was joking but he called those guys nobody gonna get it yeah yeah you know we're gonna turn these nobodies into somebody i was like well he said there's no starters on this team like you made it seem like they were changing the philosophy but obviously the result i thought it was just not so great hyperbole i'm just trying to get motivate the guys and this is the rbi thing we're going to become somebody over the course of the year but i mean they get a beat though yeah this is a beat down and uh again we got a good game going on right now the twinkle bowl ucla cow that's good news so far for bob chesney look i i think texas look good today man texas look really good today yeah yeah yeah yeah i mean ryan wingo i mean ryan i think wingo is a good story i mean we're talking about cam colin but wingo looking like a legit or like 1b receiver for that i saw a run by hollywood smothers early game i was like see that's why you make trey was in the go you know what i'm saying we watched them last year shout out to the dodgers raise a room for the dodgers who won tonight like hollywood smothered we watched them raise room you raised the roof raised roof like shout out to hollywood smothers we watched them last year and we knew that yeah yeah we love to see it billy any last parting shots for the people nah i'm just glad we're back me too it's great to be in person um great to be back for college football season obviously we survived week zero week one heating up great games tomorrow uh we will be back on wednesday we'll be breaking down all of these games uh monday night as well fsu smu that's another game where we could be talking about a coach like dabbo and mike norvell so that's something that's going to happen on wednesday as well um we got jordan rogers in studio breaking down the hail mary right now that book somebody said that book would tear dabble up that is right that is kind of what it is yeah dabbo's fighting the bug right now and the bug is winning man dog yeah man this is cold doc we're not going to be together again until for for a few weeks i guess right well we got some good plans joel will be back billy will be back hopefully man dog being out in the cali dog we're going out to dinner after this right yeah we're going to dinner yeah we're not going to tell you guys what we're going to dinner because some of y'all in l.a i can see you right now they're all coming out with us yeah you think they'll come down to joel we're taking joel to the rock nation party first we're dropping him off give him a little give him a little sprinkle of the rock nation experience and then we're going to go to dinner um we appreciate we appreciate everybody tuning in uh this is ringer tailgate we're live every single saturday come hang out with us we are locked in for the rest of the season enjoy the games cal ucla lsu shout out to you the dog this is my baby what 44-3 lsu my goodness well there you have it uh you don't need us to hang out anymore when that's already over this 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Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. The episode highlights a major upset in college football as Western Michigan defeats Michigan, a top-tier program, in a shocking home win that challenges perceptions of college football dynamics.
  2. The performance of Michigan’s quarterback, Bryce Underwood, is criticized as underwhelming, with a lack of consistency and poor execution, especially in critical moments, leading to questions about the team’s future potential.
  3. The show emphasizes the emotional and strategic significance of underdog victories, particularly in in-state or lower-tier matchups, noting that such wins can foster long-term team identity and fan morale despite the odds.

Summary:

The episode centers on a dramatic college football upset where Western Michigan defeats Michigan, a traditionally dominant program, in a stunning home win. This game becomes a focal point for discussion on quarterback performance, team identity, and the emotional impact of underdog victories. Analysts critique Michigan’s quarterback, Bryce Underwood, for failing to deliver under pressure, highlighting a lack of consistency and a poor offensive rhythm that contributed to the loss.

The win is seen as a significant moment for Western Michigan, symbolizing a long-overdue breakthrough and a potential turning point in the program's history. The episode also explores broader themes, such as the resilience of underdog teams and the psychological impact of such wins on fan morale and team culture. While Michigan’s offense struggled, the game underscores how even a poor start can lead to unexpected momentum.

Other teams like LSU and Clemson are briefly discussed, with LSU showing dominant defensive play but struggling offensively, while Clemson’s coaching changes and quarterback shifts are examined as potential red flags. The show also reflects on the broader college football landscape, featuring strong performances from Miami’s wide receivers—particularly Malachi Tony, who leads with 12 receptions and three touchdowns—while noting the emergence of talented young quarterbacks like Keelan Russell at Oregon. Ultimately, the episode uses the Michigan-Western Michigan game as a lens to examine how college football narratives shift with results, fan sentiment, and player development.

Despite the loss, Michigan is seen as potentially rebuilding, and the game serves as a cautionary tale about consistency and quarterback development in college football. The tone is both analytical and emotionally resonant, emphasizing how underdog wins can become lasting stories in a season.

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The game became a major story because Michigan, a top-25 team, lost at home to a lower-ranked in-state team, leading to widespread discussion about the team's performance, coaching, and future potential.

In the final moments, Michigan had a chance to win with a Hail Mary, but it was unsuccessful. The game ended with a dramatic collapse, leading to widespread debate about the coaching decisions and team performance.

Clemson struggled offensively, especially in passing, and failed to capitalize on key turnovers, which raised questions about their team's consistency and ability to perform under pressure.

Malachi Tony is considered the top wide receiver for Miami after Week 1, with 12 receptions, 234 yards, and three touchdowns, earning him recognition as a top performer and a potential Heisman contender.

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