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Tomo has notes of fresh violet leaf, aromatic sage, green vetiver, and mineral salt. Shop holiday gifts at Macy's.com. For more information, visit TramphyaRadio.com. We're back. Two days in a row, the pod has spoken here with Ashley and Riley. Did you guys get some sleep last night? Yeah. Ashley did not get sleep. She's a little under the weather. Get well. Yeah. Thank you. Riley? I slept fine. New dad, has a child at home, no problem, sleeping all the way through the night. He sleeps good. Now, dude, it is so clutch because, yeah, those night wake-ups are brutal, but he sleeps through the night. So even though I was heartbroken, the cue went home, and that can disrupt your sleep. Maybe that's what you're referencing here, Tyson. I know. I sleep like the dead now. I was sad we didn't get to see more cue. I slept okay. I had a weird dream about laughing at all of Coach's antics this season, like watching him on screen. You had a dream about? Yeah. About share. I was like, to people that weren't watching. This season, I was like, you guys got to check out Coach. Here's his highlight reel right now. Him and Ozzy. Now, him and Ozzy again. Now, they're yelling at each other on the mat. Now, he's, yeah. So, oh, yeah. That's funny. Yeah, it was funny. His intro shot last night. His intro shot was incredible. Yeah. I didn't get to talk about that. So good. My longstanding take is I think Coach should just have an outstanding invite to join any season of Survivor. As long as he decides before they've started, it's like, they'll get there at the marooning and be like, okay. We got 18 in here. This is actually going to be a season of 19. Yeah. Because Coach said his summer cleared up. We flew him out. He's going to join one of your tribes. It doesn't make any sense, but we've just said any season, he's allowed. Yeah. Coach could do that. Q could be one that does that too. Q totally could be that. I love that. Well, we talked to him and I love that he's feeling the love this season because I think he's an incredible player. Yeah. I do too. So, check out our exit interview and then we will break down. The two tribes we didn't hear a lot from last night and our thoughts on that grouping moving forward. Q. What's up, my brother? Oh, my God, dude. I'm so sad for you. They got me, man. Did you ever have any good luck the entire season? No. Just from the second I got on the mat, we won the challenge to going to exile, to spending the night, to coming back, to losing my vote, to then losing Kyle, to then losing Coach, to then losing Kobe's vote, to then getting swapped, and being in a minority with. No. Never. For me to make it out of all of that, it would have been win or bust. For me to make it out of all of that and then not win? Come on. That would be crazy. Yeah, yeah. Because so much would have went my way to the point where in this game, some of it is luck. But like I've said, so if you look at that tribe after the swap, we have three people that was just on the same tribe that's voted together. They're not voting for each other. Within that three, you have three people who played together on a season who've known each other for seven or eight years prior to it. Within that, you have two people who play video games outside of Survivor together. Within that, you have two people who knew each other from nightlife in LA. And then you throw all that is two people who's not involved in any of it. Stephanie and myself. Right. And one of the parties don't have a vote. I'm screwed. I wanted to go back on last night. Was there anything you could have done? In hindsight, even knowing everything you know now, watching it back, was there a way out for you? The only way out, which I feel like that ship left days prior, was to maybe preserve throwing out Angelina's name in hopes of potentially maybe gaining Angelina's. Angelina and Mike White and going after Emily. Yeah, it did seem like it would have been the only move. Yeah. Yeah. Because they wasn't voting Christian. Mike White, they made it clear. They wasn't voting Ozzy. And the only person that could have been a ringer was Emily. But with me understanding that, I'm thinking, OK, if they will go for Emily, maybe I can bring Emily in and work with Emily and get rid of somebody who's a threat. To somebody she's already working with, Christian, by getting rid of Angelina. But at that time, man, Angelina had pissed me off so bad in terms of just like her camp life, not doing anything. But I also felt like, you know, some of the stuff Angelina was doing kind of rubbed me the wrong way because it seemed as if she was doing this stuff just for the cameras. You know, like we was in a challenge and the ball challenge, but she just had to pull the ball. Pull the ball. Instead of just pulling the ball, Angelina was like. OK, guys, I'm going to pull it. I'm going to pull it. OK, guys, I'm going to pull it now. I'm just like, put it down, ball. Why are you doing all that? And then the negotiation for the rise. Then she wanted to do the fashion thing. I'm just like, OK, she is really just putting on and doing as much as she can for the camera versus being just real and authentic. Then she was telling us that she hadn't talked to Mike White in three years. Then Mike White get on the beach. And I say that. I said, man, it's crazy. You and Angelina hasn't talked in three years. He was like, what? No, we talked before we got here. Then I'm just like, OK, so she's been lying and downplaying her relationship with them. She's out of here. She's got to go. Was Mike White's strategy to tell Stephanie that she was who he was voting for, was that like a brilliant strategy? Because it seemed like because of that, it puts Stephanie now in fight or flight mode to like just go with them or anybody but her. At that point. At that point. Yeah. So what happened was when Mike White told Stephanie, hey, I'm voting for you, Stephanie got spooked. Stephanie started saying, well, look, I'm going to play my shot in the dark because, you know, I know you don't have a vote. And if he's voting for me, I know those two are also voting for me. So I was like, Stephanie, look, if I can talk to them and I can maybe get all the votes on me, would that make you more comfortable? She was like, yes. I was like, I'll do that because I need you to vote. I don't need you to play a shot in the dark. And my thinking was, as long as the three of them vote for me and Ozzie, Emily and Stephanie vote for Angelina, we got the numbers because on a re-vote, Angelina can't vote again. Mike and Christian are stuck. Now we have three. So the worst thing that can happen is I get three votes on me, but I could not have them to vote for Stephanie because then it would have been a 2-2 tie. And who's to say Emily Flippen was going to vote against Christian twice? It almost reminded me of. What happened in, you know, whatever season saying it was on, I think it was 48 to where that dude, Cedric, changed his vote the second time. So that was going through my mind like, OK, I cannot risk Emily having to then make the decision to now choose between voting for Stephanie twice. I just wanted to be one time and one time only and be done. And man, it backfired because Emily flipped on me. Ozzie flipped on me. And I didn't count. Emily flipped. Emily flipped because Emily came to me with information that I did not go and request when she told me about Aubrey's idol. Right. I knew Aubrey had the idol because on our beach on Fatu, we used to keep our bags in one area, all the bags. And one day, Aubrey takes her bag and leaves camp with it. Why else would you do it? And shortly after that, Aubrey is all of a sudden on a walk. Yeah. What else are they talking to? So we knew she had it, but then it went, come to me with that information, I'm like, okay, she's giving me something. I don't want to play with her, but who else do I have to play with? I can't go to Kristen about voting Angelina. I can't go to Mike White about voting Angelina. Only person I have now is Emily and I don't have a vote. So I need Ozzie and I have Stephanie. Why didn't you want to play with Emily? Well, it's just coming in. I knew Emily told folks prior to the game that she didn't want to play with me. And I knew that information, but I'm thinking on this tribe swap for once, if I can show her again, she came to me with the information. So I'm thinking, okay, she's giving me something that I know that I know is true. Maybe she wants to play with me for a vote. Maybe I can trust her for a vote because she's threatened by the Kristen, Angelina, Mike White scenario of being a threesome. So I'm thinking of, all this stuff as to why it would make sense for her to play with me only for it to not make sense for her to play with me. You know what I mean? So it was crazy. And last thing with Emily, did you have any idea that she was flip-flopping so bad throughout that entire day? No, it was, the reason Tyson was because it all happened so fast. Like we swapped, we hit the beach the next day, we're in a challenge. Now we're talking about tribe. So you're making your, you're talking to this person and that person and, oh, you're probably going for a walk or now you're in a challenge. So it all happened so fast to the point to where I did not know. Now, I did talk to Kristen about his idol thing. When she told me this, I said, hey, look, can you tell me what you know about idols? This is how I know I can trust you. Not knowing that Emily had went back to him and told him that she had already told me. So my thing was testing Kristen on if he lied to me or not. And I said, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't um but he already knew you knew the information i don't know yeah and then he so but i knew chris was lying to me because he said hey um yes i know about idols savannah sent the idol to aubrey and i'm thinking why would savannah of all people send an idol to aubrey when rizzo is here somebody she's played with she has a relationship with d we knew that before we came why would she send it to aubrey so then i knew he was lying i knew if not i was like no he sent it because he told me too many details as to what the idol was so then i knew he was in on it so i knew it kind of i couldn't trust him so going to him about trying to buy inside angelina was not going to go where he just lied to me i know he did so my hands were tied man it was like it's almost like i want to ask you being that you've played with four times what are you doing that scenario everything you can like you did you scramble with everybody you threaten to have two votes you'd like do whatever you can you're like i take a nap so people think you're comfortable enough to be taking a nap like that's very scary just to like put down the game and be like i'm good and everybody's like why is he good does he have an idol does he have like there's that's all you can do is just like figure out mind games to try and get somebody but if mike had already scared stephanie into things like that he would have been like i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know what i'm thinking it's going to be her unless she goes against her alliance in some capacity that makes it real tricky yeah and in fact that if ozzy told them oh q don't have a vote nothing i say matters at this point right only thing only play i have is idol but even if i say i have an idol tyson it's five of them thank you what about playing your shit so you have the shot in the dark they're still doing i couldn't play it can't play it no because you don't have a vote i don't have a vote so now even if i say i have an idol what they're probably going to do is three people are going to vote me and two were going to vote stephanie and her one vote one going to count because i didn't have a vote yeah i mean maybe try and see if you can push a vote there some way somehow anyways just be like i'm going to be here tomorrow anyways so like why not be with me but if it's a tie or if they now think i do have it all you gotta do is put two or three people together and then you're going to have a vote yeah yeah dang see what i'm saying it's done did everyone know that that you didn't have a vote that information got out i don't know if everyone knew but i would assume ozzy told him i would i would have to assume that that's the only way they was just so confident that it would it would go through because you would have saw talk about but what if he played a shot in the door because it wasn't a fact that they thought oh we got q so comfortable and food that he don't know no no they didn't think that at all but they knew was they had numbers yeah yeah i mean in the moment you don't know who has what information you don't know who's passed what information so you're trying to like balance that with playing putting enough fear into people it's just like in it it's an almost impossible balance i think you did the best you could with what you had and looking at it especially with emily going back and forth and sharing information with everybody it's like very difficult uh riley what do you have for q q when you were voted out and you turned to ozzy and you were like did you do this did he say yeah like the no no he said no he said no yeah so what's up with that he shook his head like this you know he said no he said he said no because and i and i i know i know for a fact he said no because he was talking directly to me right also when i went and i was thinking i was like he did vote for me he only said no because he didn't want me to out people out him about his idol so i was thinking okay oh he's smart he said no because he thought maybe i was gonna tell folks he had the idol on my way out if he said yes and blah blah but he he definitely he definitely said no my thinking when he said no is he wasn't taking credit for it he was like kind of in a rock between a rock and a hard spot i just had to go along but it wasn't me then you know even if that's okay look i'm fine with it because even watching it unless he can convince emily to stay true and vote with him he would have been voting angelina with stephanie now it puts a bad taste in their mouth about him he had to do what he had to do man the guy got an idol uh the guy's in a good spot on the tribe and you can't risk that on me when you've only spent one night with me on exile that really didn't mean much uh and i say this you know i would feel much worse if this happened with my people like if it was me in the majority and they all flipped on me and blunt i would feel awful because what would what would what would your people look like what would that a tribe look like who's who's your people on this season yeah yeah so if if maybe i don't draw emily and ozzy and i can draw uh jenna b or tiff and and and joe or jonathan even charlie in that moment anybody else other than what i dreamt of and i'm like i'm gonna be a part of that and i'm gonna be a part of that and i'm gonna be a part of that and i'm gonna be a part of that and i'm gonna be a part of that and i'm gonna because again i'm drawing three people who've known each other for seven eight years three people who've been playing with each other two people who play video games together two people who know each other from la nightlife yeah that's what i draw they all have relationships beyond the game of survival and it's just like tyson if we go and we're playing pickleball and yep pickleball oh you had me at pickleball let's go and we go as a foursome it's time to go and pick who we're gonna play with are you picking joe on the fence that's sitting or are you gonna pick one of the three people you've come with and to play oh i'm picking one of the people i've come with i know i know them i know their capabilities and their talents and it's like they don't have a reason to pick me right so i was i was messed up man and uh it's part of the game it's part of survivor now uh but what i will say is the game has changed so much tyson to the point to where i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't it used to be you know winning challenges meant something now it's it doesn't matter just get in with people you know or get into an alliance and it doesn't matter if we go to tribal we can survive this thing eventually we're gonna merge and here we go you know it used to be the guy the bigger guy who was going to be helpful in challenges who's going to provide around camp who's not causing a problem every single night i'm the one tending to the fire i'm bringing the most firewood back i'm going out trying to go crabbing to find food for us not causing any problems that count yeah but that's the guy we see so the game has changed well that's a returning season they do not care about winning challenges they only care about alliances and loyalty and if they have a tribe of eight and they whittle it down to three they don't care if they're the three so i think that that has been the standard for returning seasons for a long time and undoubtedly we will see you in the future i have no doubt in my mind we will see you again so just put that in your back pocket they do not care about any of that it is literally just the group and how loyal and how trustworthy preserve that group and how far they can get correct and here's the thing again i don't have anything wrong with that i just didn't have my group right uh ashley what do you have for q uh we have a fan question actually okay would you still give in to aussie your vote in for the supplies or would you oh you still would do it i would because at that point in the game you got to understand what i understood about what people perceived me to be was is trouble. Chaos, unpredictability, trouble. And I go from my tribe and I spend the night somewhere they don't know what happened. And I come back empty handed. Oh, that's two X's on my back so fast. It's crazy. But if I come back with the pot and machete, I can now start my plan as to, I work hard around camp. I'm likable. I'm funny. So the pot and machete was the key for me to say, hey, I had to move 50 coconuts this morning for the tribe. I did it for y'all. And I brought this pot and machete back. That instantly gained me traction within my tribe. If I don't come back with that, I'm done. And I knew that. I never wanted that extra vote. It made it seem like it, but I even said in confession, I was like, my thinking was to get Aja to think that I want it so me jumping on the pot and machete wouldn't seem weird to him. So I was like, ah, maybe, but I would, I was never taking that extra vote because I understood that was going to put a bigger target on me than I wanted. Yeah. Cause you have to come back with something. If you come back with nothing, they assume you have something. So you having the pot and machete in hand. Even, even from talking to folks now, it's like, they questioned more about Ozzy about, okay, does he really have, like, that was some of the reasoning why they was trying to target him, but they just couldn't get it done with that tribe because of it. They would have sent me packing. Yeah. Cause they already half of them don't want to play with me. They don't know me. And it only took me coming back, telling them that I've moved 50 coconuts and then proceeding to bring back more firewood and everybody else tend to the fire all night for me to gain Colby's trust, Stephanie's trust, then Genevieve and Kyle. So I was in the core of it like that just because I brought back pot and machete. Yeah. You knew that what those people needed from you. And if I would have been there, I would have eaten at each and every coconut you brought to me and been totally loyal to you for it. Um, Q always a pleasure. Social media was a buzz with mentions of Q last night, hundreds of thousands. I saw hundreds of thousands. You know, what's so funny about this season 46, man, it was similar. Maybe not as many, it was mixed. Some of them loved me. Some of them hated me this season. You know, I've seen everything that I've seen, brother. I have not seen one negative thing that they've seen. Like, oh, I'm glad this guy's gone. Everybody's like, dang, he's gone bomb. Want to see him again? It's been so positive, man. I love it. Good. Yeah. You deserve it. I know you in person. We're good friends and you deserve all of the love that you're receiving. Uh, and we love you too. Thanks for your time. Q much love. Appreciate it, brother. Yeah. This episode is brought to you by Panda Express. Telling someone you love them. 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He had a lot of good things to say. He did not disappoint. And like we suspected, Ozzy said no to Q in his final moments on the show. Q asked if it was Ozzy. Ozzy said no, but the caption on the screen said, yeah. Interesting little tidbit there. I don't know if we're building into seeing Ozzy be more powerful because of that. Like, is that, is that something to do with the story? Did they misinterpret the nah for yeah? Only time will tell. We'll keep tabs on it loosely, but it's probably not too important of a detail. Yeah, because if Q were on the jury, I'd be like, that's important. They did that for a reason and it must explain like a vote at the end or whatever. And I would have all the hairs would be standing up. But because it's a pre-jury vote, I don't know. It seems like maybe it was a mistake. Yeah. Yeah, I agree. Let's go to the first tribe here. So we saw a lot of Vatu last night. We got to see their dynamics. Q ultimately gets voted out. I also was thinking after we recorded the podcast, I was like, does Mike telling Stephanie that he's going to vote for her put him in a precarious situation moving forward? Because Stephanie now has to be a little bit weary of Mike White. If somebody told me they're voting for him, I would be like, oh, my God. I don't know. I don't know. they're voting for me than did the switcheroo without telling me. I mean, there's a lot that we don't see. Uh, I just started thinking like that was a more brilliant play than we gave it credit than I gave it credit in the moment. And, uh, uh, is it too smart and people recognize it because it was done openly. Uh, enough about Vatu though. We, uh, pontificated about them profusely yesterday. How was that vocabulary, Ashley? I am blown away. Are you getting ready for the SAT? Yeah. Get ready for the SAT. Here we go. Uh, so let's go to the tribe. I feel like we know a little better out of these two tribes. Calo. Calo? Sorry, Riley. I don't know. We have Aubrey, Joe, Genevieve, Coach, Chrissy, Colby, and Tiffany. Yes. And we do get the Joe, Coach, Colby, and Chrissy grouping. We do see that materialize the, uh, honor and integrity group. Yes. I see a lot of people on social media talking about never wanting to hear those two words on, on Survivor ever again. No, I love it. I feel like you need some people who play this way. Otherwise it's just, it's all gamers and it becomes too, too samey. Yeah. You need a few. So I know it drags a little, but I love it. The warrior's code. Let's go. The warrior's code. So we got the warrior's code here. And, uh, are they all honorable and filled with integrity? If we're looking at this group or is somebody going to betray somebody here? You know, I don't know that Colby has actually talked about having honor and integrity. Obviously he has a history, you know, in season two where he, he took Tina to the end because he felt like it was like the right thing to do and it cost him the win. But like on this season, he has not come in and been like, I'm playing with honor that I've seen, unless I'm forgetting something here. I think he just gets roped into this. Cause it's like, Oh, well, yeah, he's an older dude. So he must be playing with honor and integrity. Right. But there's older dudes. You wouldn't think, I think his aura is that southern accent. Yeah. The Texas, all of that. You're like, he must just be playing a straight up game. And it's like, are we sure? Right. Right. I don't think everyone on, in that Alliance even knows what integrity means to the other person. You know what I'm saying? Loose definition. Yeah. I'm kind of worried about that. It's just going to, something's going to happen and coach is going to do something. Everyone's like, that's not what integrity means. And then he's going to justify it and be like, it is because of the circumstances. I dare you question his honor. Yes. Yes. Who's going to question his honor first out of that group? Joe. I think it's going to be Joe. Oh man. That's going to be expensive. Explosive. He has like the top tier standards for integrity and honor. And I think coach kind of like steps out just a second every now and then. Joe's going to hate that. He's going to hate it. It's so good. I don't know if it's going to be good, but the imagining how it's going to go is good. So we have the remaining, the outsiders of that group. We have Tiffany, Aubrey, and Genevieve. And within that, Genevieve and Aubrey are seemingly at each other. Genevieve is. Especially as that Aubrey, which is a crazy position when you're already on the bottom. Maybe you don't know you're on the bottom, but you'd have to feel in some capacity that you are there on the bottom, I would assume. Who, Genevieve or Aubrey? Both. Yeah. They're both on the bottom. They both have to feel like they're outside of the, yeah, Aubrey knows she's not in the majority group. She seems like she's connecting with, like, literally everybody on the tribe except for Aubrey. And I think, which is also not the best either. If you're, like, trying to connect with everybody, you don't notice which people aren't really connecting with you. So I'm kind of worried about her. Yeah. Yeah. And, I mean, she thinks she has Tiffany and she does not have Tiffany. Uh-uh. No. So, yeah. So, I think, am I missing something? Is there any other grouping here that we're seeing? We saw the girls go down and have a girl chat for a little while. Uh-huh. Is that something that could happen? No. No. I don't think so. I think Chrissy's sticking with Coach and the Honorable group no matter what. Yeah. She already rubbed his legs. Like, she's in. She is in. Yes. Even though he coached her up about talking too much. Dude. Oh, dear. Yeah, man. Using the hand, the hand motion. Yeah. It was like, he had, like, a good idea of how to do it. And then the execution was, like. Yeah. Well, it wasn't even about her talking too much. It just seems like she had a montage of being bossy for a minute. And that's all it was, was, like, don't be the leader at camp. Let somebody else stick their neck out there. Yeah. So, moving forward, what is, who's going to be voted out of this tribe if it goes to tribal council? I think that we could be. Building up toward Genevieve getting the numbers on Aubrey and it being an idol that bounces back probably on Genevieve. That just feels like. Yeah. Maybe that's too clean and, you know, it's Survivor and everything will get all messy and so it won't play out that way. But that's what it feels like could happen right now. Interesting. Yeah. So, you think that Genevieve's going to get her way, but Aubrey's going to play the idol and Genevieve's going to end up going home? Yeah. That's what I think, too. Yeah. You both think that. Yeah. I think Genevieve's going to go home. I think Tiffany's probably the, like, key player there that gets the information to Aubrey so that she knows to play the idol. Yeah. So, we already have that kind of playing out. It'll just, it just depends on if people are willing to go along with Genevieve or decide that she's too overbearing and need to get rid of her because they could be next out of her mouth. Yeah. Yeah. So, it's straightforward and then it just goes the other way. Yeah. Could be. Yeah. Yeah. I do believe it's going to be one of them, though. So, because the integrity group doesn't need to turn on each other yet. They're still filled with integrity, patting each other on the backs over it. So, I think they're going to be fine for a little while. Let's go down to tribes of four and put all of the integrity people on one tribe and then see who's, how that plays out. Like, I need to get in a position where they have to turn on each other and how does it happen? Do they just tell? The person? Yeah. Yeah. That would be a good, a good, like, themed season. It's just like the all honor and integrity season. They only cast people or they bring back returnees or whatever. They're just like, I'm never going to tell a lie. I'm going to play this game straight up, you know, and then wait for that to probably very quickly unravel. So, so good. So good. You know what I want Survivor to do one day is to have, like, the normal tribes and everything. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I want them to, like, pull a squid game where it's suddenly the tribes are, have to, like, fight against each other for a little bit. Because I feel like with the integrity honor group, if they're suddenly like, oh, we're best friends, we're going into a challenge, everything's amazing. And then Jeff's like, psych, you're against your tribe. The first three who wins, like, that would just mess them up and it would be a good test to, to every alliance in that little group. They have done that before where they've sent every tribe. To tribal council and had them do individual immunity, which there's enough people this season. We could easily see something like that play out at some point. Yes. If we're looking at the numbers, how many people are in the game now? Is there 20? There are 20. 20 people after Q's exit. There's 20 people. So 19, 18. I bet we get down to two more evicted and then we're going to do another tribe swap. Because we got that. This was, this was night nine that was, or sorry, night eight was this tribal council. So they've done, they've had eight days. They've got, what does that give us? Like 18 left to eliminate. We've got 20 people and 18 days left in the game. Yeah. The math gets really tight here. So yeah, we're definitely going to be staring down some double eliminations or whatnot. Yeah. Which is odd that they didn't do them early. They're doing them later, which I guess gives people more time to be on TV and to get their bearings. So maybe. Maybe it constitutes or translates to better game. Yeah. So hopefully we see it. Let's go to Sela. We have Charlie, Dee, Rizzo, Camilla, Jonathan, Sari, and Devins. The only real grouping I am aware of here is Sari and Devins. Well, yeah, we did get Dee and Jonathan talking about being against Sari. Against Sari. Right. But unclear how tight they truly are. Yes. We haven't had like a scene where it's like those two are like, we're together. And then Charlie and Rizzo bonded, but then Charlie upset because Rizzo didn't vote for his best friend in the end. Yeah, properly. I have a theory about maybe somewhat what happened there. I think that Rizzo was really downplaying his relationship with Savannah. Yeah. And so it sounded more to Charlie. Charlie, like Rizzo had a number one in Sophie and then just voted for Savannah, who he wasn't that close with or whatever. And if you'd watched the season, obviously, you know, like, yeah, if Rizzo's 1A was Sophie, his 1B was Savannah. Like all three of them were super, super tight. So it wasn't like some big betrayal similar to like Maria with Charlie and Kenzie. Right. But Rizzo had already told this like fib basically because he wanted to downplay he and Savannah. His relationship coming into this season because they're on the on the season together. So he can't he can't like pull that back and be like, actually, I lied. You know, now Savannah's gone. Let me let you know that I actually was super tight with her, too. So I had like two best friends to vote for because that feels weird. So he's kind of in like I think he was just in a tight spot there, actually. Right. Right. Why would he downplay his relationship with Savannah? I mean, she's on the season because he doesn't want it out. Right. But I mean, before this, he had already downplayed the relationship with Savannah. So he can't then be like, I was, oh, I downplayed that. But actually, we were super, super tight. It just makes him look kind of untrustworthy to these people he's known for nine days. Okay. So will they come back together, Charlie and Rizzo or no? Rizzo is dead to Charlie. I don't know. The way Charlie was looking at him, he just seemed really, really upset. Yeah, he did not love it. He was mad. Okay, where does Camilla go? That's the beauty of Camilla, right? She always is in the middle and has every option to go wherever she wants. Honestly, I have no clue because I was like at first thinking maybe she can be with D and Jonathan. But I was like, I feel like Seri would love Camilla as well. Like, I feel like that would be a great alliance as well. So she's just doing her thing of just being like right in the middle. Anyone could talk to her. She's a safe, safe space. Yes. I'm looking at it. I'm thinking Seri and Devin's. Seri is socially strong enough to win people over. I think she's going to be fine in this grouping right now with how many people are there. Devin's is wily enough and he's locked in tight with Seri. I think he's going to be okay for the time being. Jonathan, big, strong guy. I feel like they're going to need him for challenges. And he had to. Hasn't really seemed to be rubbing anybody the wrong way. Yes. D, the only winner left in the game. Charlie wanting Rizzo gone. And Camilla just kind of being a floater right now. I feel like those three and maybe Charlie pushing too hard at Rizzo could also get him in trouble personally. So I think it's going to come down to that. What are your thoughts, Riley? Who's going home first from this tribe? I feel like it's probably Rizzo. He was on the bottom of Vaatu before, right? That's something Angelina shared last episode. And I just, I think it's that unknown factor of these season 49 players that didn't have a chance to become like a known, like, oh, okay. I understand Rizzo played a loyal game in 49. They don't know that. So. I view him as being on the outs. I do agree with like Camilla being a good spot. I think that that's a bit of a. But like there's an effect there where Kyle being out of the game just makes her like such an afterthought now, you know, in a really good way for her. She's obviously an extremely adept player, but her story on her season was so much that duo relationship with Kyle that now you're just like, man, who would ever think of Camilla right now is like the threat. She can just do anything. Yeah. Yeah. Ashley, what do you got? Who do you think is going home from this grouping here? I think Dee. I feel like Seri talked about how she didn't feel comfortable with Dee being there. And I feel like if you had to like compare to like Rizzo, because Rizzo is like the unknown factor that's scaring literally everybody. But they all know Dee's a winner. So they're like, okay, we got to get what we know is an actual competitor out. I think she's the last winner as well. So you got to, I feel like if they were going to target anyone, it has to be. It's kind of easy to say, okay, the other two winners already exited. Let's just do all three of them. I also think Seri and Dee are so similar as far as being able to win people over and be personable. And so I do kind of feel like they're so similar. They're either going to work together or go against each other. And it looks like they're going to go against each other. This is where I feel like Dee wanting to target Seri. It feels like a mistake to me. We'll see how it plays out. Obviously, Dee knows pretty well what she's doing on the island, but they just feel like perfect shields for each other. It's like Dee comes in with sky high threat level. Seri comes in with sky high threat level. If you are one of those people and Dee knows that she has a huge threat level, you want to keep the other like big dogs in the game. This was like Tony's whole thing in Winners at War. He was like the lions and the hyenas. Well, the lions got to stick together. The hyenas will eat us all alive. Yeah. So, yeah, they just. They're great shields for each other. And I think if Dee does target Seri, it's a mistake, but we'll see. Yeah. Yeah. I think so, too. I mean, we have a lot of time to figure it out. We'll be thinking about it all week. And anything else before we shut this thing down? I don't think so. I just hope that Jeff doesn't rap again next episode. No more rapping. I think it's outlawed. Okay. Riley loved it. Oh, man. Dude. Dude. I forgot to ask Hugh how it sounded without the track over it. Oh, man. I wanted to ask him about that. He was talking so much good strategy stuff, too. And we just ran out of time. I actually had it written down. It was going to be my question to him if we just had a little bit more time, but I could not, you know, interrupt all of this stuff he was talking about. Write it down now. Whoever's eliminated next week, ask them about it. Yes. We'll ask. We'll ask. If there's ever a lull in the conversation for every single contestant from here on out, we'll ask, so what was going through your head when Jeff started rapping? Ask how it sounded without the track and if they did a voiceover mix to make him sound better on the episode. If you watch it back, too, those camera shots of the contestants are so tight because you know that, like, not all of them were into it. We're enjoying it. Just the right shot. There's, like, what? You can, like, almost see Camilla and you're like, Camilla is definitely not into it. Yeah. And there's, like, kind of one shot of Genevieve making a face where I think, you know, I think that they kind of know that this is, Jeff's going to be, like, the butt of the joke here a little bit. Oh, for sure. But they still protected it some and had the more enthusiastic players shown on camera. But it's some real tight camera shots. What is this rap setting us up for? Is there something where. A musical episode. A whole musical episode. No. No. episode imagine you can only communicate through song go that would be insane what a great idea for reality tv show uh reality tv the musical you can only communicate through song uh everyone from broadway freestyle let's go uh man just vote me out that's a great idea uh all right that'll do it here the pod has spoken we are very excited uh for the next episodes i have to say season 50 is playing out pretty exciting the returning player vibe uh that we have missed and maybe didn't even know we missed is back and uh it's at a fever pitch so uh we'll be back with all the best coverage we can deliver next week see ya holiday drinks are now at mcdonald's like the new red bull frosted cranberry energizer it's red bull meets cranberry flavors topped with cold foam and sprinkles made to charge your holiday spirit now at mcdonald's finished your essay a day early that deserves a finally folded that laundry that deserves a parallel parked on the first floor of the mcdonald's that deserves a no matter what you accomplish today celebrate with an ice cold coca-cola because even the little wins deserve a big enjoy coca-cola