‘Survivor 50’ Episode 2 Exit Interview! | The Pod Has Spoken

СПОКОЙНАЯ МУЗЫКА СПОКОЙНАЯ МУЗЫКА СПОКОЙНАЯ МУЗЫКА -Ладно, another special episode of the pot has spoken. We're doing a lot of these this season. We just got done talking to Savannah. And I was sad to see her go. I thought she, once if she could get going, I felt like she would be a powerful player in this game. It was hard to find her footing because she didn't know anybody. -Yeah. -That's hard. -I think we had talked a lot coming into this season about whether it's an advantage or disadvantage to be this unknown or people haven't seen you before. And I feel like after last episode, we can answer it pretty definitively. That was a huge disadvantage for Savannah. -Absolutely. Because it happened in Jenna as well. So it happened in Jenna with her not knowing that many people. And now it happened to Savannah. So it's probably going to be kind of a pattern for a lot of the people going on or on season 50 right now. -So kind of a bummer. -Reach out, Rizzo. -Yeah. Make friends, Rizzo. -Is it like you make your friends? -Yeah, you got to get under top of the season. -He's also making some enemies. -A little bit. -Tomorrow they'll become adversaries in the next season. -Yeah. -Back to enemies. -So on and so forth. -Right. -Right. -Okay. Well, we promised a mailbag and we have a mailbag. -What do you got right now? -A mailbag. -Yep. -We have curated some questions from our Instagram page. -Okay. -We got some good ones. We got some weird ones. We got some fun ones. So we'll start off with something straight forward though. Daryl Taylor Jr asks, Tyson, what advice did you give token teens, brethren, coach before he left for Fiji? -I told coach that he should not scramble. Scramble if you're someone who's kind of a threat or people are watching is very, very bad. And I told him just go sit at the camp and let people come to you and bring information. Like that. It works so well. And coach is so beloved here on this season. Like everybody's come into him anyways. So I do believe that like that would be very powerful. I don't think he's sticking his neck out too far being scrambling or anything. So maybe he's putting it into effect a little bit. -But he's sticking his neck out in other ways. -Oh, for sure. -For sure. Just picking fights with Ozzy. So I think he's letting the game come to him a little bit, which I think he needs to do. And I think for if you are looked at as like a leader type guy, bossy or has to step into that like elder role than sitting there and not doing anything is probably your best strategy. -Yeah, I would agree with that. Especially in the early game where it's best to just lay low in a cast of 24 or two. -Yeah, right. -You don't have to play that hard that fast. -That's why TIPS is going to make it for her because she is not. We don't even see her. -She's a little, she's going to make it real far. -Exactly. What else we got Riley? -All right. "Which theme would you rather return to when you return and why? Winners at war, fans versus favorites, blood versus water, or heroes versus villains?" -Ooh, I mean, blood versus water to see Rachel play again if they did that. Let you bring her again, but if it's like all newbies with-- -Which she would want to play again? -I don't know. -She didn't love it, so probably not. I like fans versus favorites. We're seeing some of that excited energy on 50 from these returning players who haven't been back forever. Fans versus favorites gives you even more of that excitement of being there and by being surrounded by the legends. Ashley, what of those themes would you want to see as a viewer? -Oh my gosh. I mean, fans versus favorites is always fun just because, you know, seeing people who have no idea how to play survivor against actual players is always a really funny thing to see. You know what I actually want to see, though? I want to see celebrities go on survivor, and then there's cameos from favorites to give them challenges. So Tyson, you would be behind a tree, and you just found the Tyson Idol. And this means that, you know what I mean, stuff like that. I want to see that and have, I don't know, Billy Eilish try to climb a rope for Jeff. If they're going to do it, they should just go all the way. Yeah, just jump out and be like, I want to scare you. That's what I want to do, scare them and hand them in a new fanage. -I feel like it's time for another fans versus favorites season. -Yeah. -And we had the original couple of fans versus favorites season. You know, casting was still adding a bunch of recruits to the show. And I'm actually pro recruit because we get a lot of the best characters that we've had in survivor history through recruiting. But in this era of super fans being cast, I think that they would be way more up to the challenge of going up against these favorites. And it would just be an interesting, different dynamic. You know, you think about some of these people in the new era going up against players that they have grown up watching kind of like we're seeing on 50 a bit. I think it'd be really cool. -I agree, I agree. -Yeah, yeah, I think so too. -So maybe like season 54, maybe I don't want to have to wait all the way until 60 for another return season. -No, I hope not. I hope not. That would be way too long. All right. With the little sass, what are the chances that people will believe Rick if he pulls out the newly hidden fake idol? Or does it have to be Christian for it to be believable? Does this play, however they work it out? Does it work better if it's Christian finding it versus Devins? -I think so. And maybe somebody just bumps into it and it's neither of them. -Yeah. -Like maybe somebody finds it and thinks it's real. -Doesn't the rapper say, "Hey, you found the boom ring?" -Yeah, but then they think they found the boom ring at all. -And there is it just the rapper. -I think there's an idol in there. I think there's something fake in there. -Okay. -So my thought is I think that if Rick finds it and delivers it properly, it could work. Otherwise, Christians are natural at acting. -Yes. -The trip, all of it. Coddling Joe. So I don't know exactly. I think Rick would have to get his acting chops on and be really good. He could do it, but I think people are going to be skeptical of him if he's giggling and smiling about it. I hope that somebody finds it thinking it's real and navigating that. -Yeah. -I think it'll only work if they're on specific tribes. I feel like some people wouldn't trust it. I think maybe D would see right through it. People who are already looking for people lying. But I honestly think Joe would be like, "Wow, you found something." I mean, it definitely matters what tribe he's on and then that's the audience. The audience determines whether or not it works. -Right. Yeah. I think so. -I wonder if anyone will clock that it's so close to where they sit at tribal council, versus if they had somehow been able to hide it a little further away, I think that would make it more believable. If you're like, "Oh, I found a clue back at camp that said to look over here." I feel like if production hidden idle at tribal council, it wouldn't be right there. -Like right there. -Like across the set or whatever. You'd have to get up and move. That would throw up maybe a little bit of a flag for me. At least I hope it would, if it were being perceptive. If I saw somebody being like, "Well, that's right there." Is it possible that they put it? -Do you think that if it was like a super advantage-heavy, weird twist-heavy episode, and then he found the idol, "Oh, that would be more easy for people to believe than just a normal episode, like a normal challenge-based episode?" -You know, I guess that that reminds me that Savannah had gotten the knowledge that this was. -Right. that the fans had voted on dynamic advantages. And we don't know, we should have asked her this if she had shared that information. Because then that would make people more likely to believe, "Oh, of course." Yeah, there's an advantage at tribal council. There's all this weird stuff going around versus if it's a left, there are less advantages on the season. -Right. -Yeah, I also. If someone random finds it maybe in the moment, nobody tells them it's probably fake, there's two boomerang idols out there now. So I think that takes away from the legitimacy of it. -Yeah, that's fair. All right, next question, um, Straticus Axe, which Muppet would make the best survivor player? Muppet. I think Kermit the frog. Yeah, just Kermit. Yeah. Because he's a good guilt-tripper too. Like, he's really good at it. Well, you can manage Miss Piggy's emotions and feelings and uh, yeah, yeah, that's true. Yeah. Can you be like the Christian, you know, like rocking somebody maybe, um, animal he just did with animal. Sometimes I do think that it's kind of the frog. That's a good point. Yeah. He's not intimidating. He's not big. He's not extra strong, but he's very good socially at putting people at ease. Yeah. I think you're probably right. But I think that Miss Piggy is who I actually want to see out on the island the most, you know, kind of like dropping a real housewife. Yeah. Hunt a survivor for sure. Just says to me, street count as Muppets because they're created by the same guy. Like, because I want to say, Elmo, Elmo would be good. Elmo would be nice. Everybody would love Elmo. Yeah, but he's kind of like low-key kind of evil. You know what I mean? Like, have you seen him with that rocky guy? Like, yeah, because he hates like the pet rock. Yeah. There's this pet rock with one of his friends. Can't stand it. And so I feel like like if it was the rock and Elmo there at survivor, it'd be like a rivalry, you know what I mean? Like, enemy is a hundred percent. It'd be great TV. And then you go over here and Elmo's super sweet. And then you go over here and he's like, "I hate the rock." You know, great, great TV. Right. Right. I think Big Bird would be the best of challenges though, from a liability once you get to the merge. You can't have me going on a run. A cookie monster would have the hardest time with the lack of food. You know, if you're sure, he would try every type of like fruit to be like, is this good? No, is this good? No. This looks like a cookie. It's a rock. Like, it would be a mask for a cookie monster. Eating the sour coconut and stuff like that. Right. So good. Kyle Gayhan. Gohan 12 asks, Tyson, what's the weirdest thing you've seen a tribe mate do while I can't? I mean, there's not that much, that is that weird. I mean, picking noses is a common thing. And not eating because they're picky of the food. Like, Tina wouldn't eat stuff and you're starving. Food that you got as a reward or eating rice. Like that. I don't like rice. So I'm not going to eat any of the rice. We just like rice. Yeah. People don't like rice. That's wild. So yeah. Okay. So there's that. And then people eating stuff that they're allergic, like, you always having a reaction to the coconut. But he was like, I'm eating it no matter what. So he was having intestinal issues. So like, that was the other opposite side. But as far as like, really weird, that's. Everybody knows that everybody's watching them. So being weird doesn't help your chances at camp. Right. De-street. When does hunger really start to affect you in the game? It comes in waves. Like, I think you feel desperate for food sometimes when you can feel like you're going to have it. And then also, you really start to get tired. Maybe a couple of weeks into it where you get sluggish and slow. You kind of live enough of reserves for a little bit. And that is okay. And it's weird because you know it's survivor. So your body somehow just does it. Like, if you were at home and you were like, I'm going to start myself for 26 days. You couldn't do it with the fridge there and everything. But with nothing, it's easy. Easier. This is, I mean, kind of will, you know, this is like the one percent version of what it is probably like on the island. But this is why I can't keep like ice cream in my freezer. Because I'll just eat it. Yeah, I just can't. I won't be able to not. And versus, you know, if it's not there, okay, then I can't have it. Right. Exactly. So yeah. And that's it. It's not there. You can't have it. You already know you can't. So you just got to get over it. You just get over it. But I did, you do, it does take a toll a couple of weeks in your sluggish all the time. And for me, I'd be like, okay, I'm going to focus in on the challenge. I'm going to get through the challenge. I'm going to bust my balls to do that. And then I can lay down and not expend a bunch of energy after. Do you feel like that malnourishment in the challenges? Like are you like, wow, I'm really not performing at what my athletic peak is because I haven't eaten in 10 days or whatever? I don't. I never felt that. I think because they're mostly short and sprinty, it's like a little bit different. If it were endurance wise, balanced stuff is weird. Because maybe you get a little light headed or like, oh, type stuff. So I don't really know on that front. If I didn't feel it, I'm sure it takes a toll. But when you're in the game and everybody else is the same malnourished, the competition is then equal. Maybe that makes sense. All right. See can and asks. Let's say season 50 marked the end of the new era and season 51 begins a brand new era. What's one change each of you would make or implement for the next 25 seasons? A change I would implement. Let's go back to the two tribe at first. We can we can swap into three for a second if we want to, but let's start with two. Yeah. I would do more tribe swabs. Okay. Yeah. Tons just so many. Just mix them up. Yeah, so many. There'd be like every other like three episodes in tribe swap another episode try. I just want I want everyone to work with each other. I think that's one of my biggest like, like the saddest thing about Savannah going home because I was really looking forward to her working with older survivor players and and to feel like that real the real game of survivor because she tried to play it in 49 and nobody was really up for it and was kind of surprised by how aggressive she was. So it's like such a bummer. So I would like everyone to get a chance to play with everyone at least once. Yeah, that would be fun. So everybody knows everybody. Yeah. Yes. Okay. By the time you get to the merge, you've already had experience with so you need to do like a round robin style where you ensure that everybody's on a tribe with each other at some point. Maybe, maybe. I just want everyone to see and also I think it's funnier if you end up at the merge and you're like, oh god, it's that guy. Yeah. So and then oh, he's really good friends with my alliance. Uh oh. Uh oh. Uh oh. You know, so yeah, that could be super fun. I've always wondered what like if they went just straight into the individual part of the game. It's just like everybody's on a beach. We'll divide you up randomly for rewards, but then it's going to be like a community challenges individual from here. Yeah. Or, or even like maybe we divide you up randomly for the, the, you know, in half of you go to tribal or something like that, but it's like everybody's just on the same beach at once. You know, I know they did that for the one world season, but it was still two tribes competing against each other the whole time. Yeah. Um, this would be more like, no, it's a complete mix from the beginning. Yeah. Right. Just like a one time thing. You know, I still want the tribe format generally. That's sure. Tyson, you more or less said what I was going to say, which is I'm very ready for a breakup to the three tribes is six format. I think that that has gotten pretty stale. Everybody realizes now, okay, I need a strong four. Once I have a four, the first two tribal councils don't matter as long as I'm locked in with them. Um, if you're on the outs, you're kind of, you're kind of screwed and yeah, it's just, um, needs to be a little different. Uh, two tribes, two tribes of like 10 or eight or whatever is, uh, it has always been fun. I like these bigger tribes, too. Right. And I think two that, uh, to your idea, Riley, you can't do 25 seasons of no tribes starting off with 50. That's an experience. No, I would not do that. I would not do that. It's an excellent year. I'm not told that's for sure. That's for sure. I would not do it for 25 seasons. All right. Let's do one more. Ethan Zahn asks, when is he thinking going to be back on the pod? We had a great time with him last week. We love him. And people really enjoyed his humor and takes. We all do. So, uh, you know, I have him on speed dial. We pretty much have him on every season. So we do 51 for sure. At the latest, I think he'll be back. Yes. What's up, everybody? We have Savannah here from a heartbreaker of an episode last night. Two things went wrong. Our beloved Savannah got voted out and Christian shit is pants. But we're only going to talk about the first one. Savannah was there. I know you played back to back. And I'm sure most of the people out there know, there was like what, less than a two week gap from when you ended to when you started again. Yeah, dude. There was nine days. And so I mean, you know, like playing survivor ones is so much on your body, your brain, your mind, like everything. And then playing twice, like it was whirlwind back to back. But I was just just so happy to have the experience, like survivor 50, like how can anyone ever turn that down, you know? - Yeah, that is true. I wanted to touch on that because when I think about it, there's lots of downside to playing back-to-back like that. Is there an upside like where you just like in-game mode, like what are the positives for someone in the future? Maybe someone goes for 51 and 52 back-to-back. What can they look forward to? - I think there's definitely more downsides, which I mean, you see in my game here, it's that big question mark unknown. But I mean, part of the two is you really never leave that game mentality. Even when I was back here in Atlanta for that nine days, I still had that game or mindset on. I was still a little suspicious of people. I questioned people whether it was, I don't know, my Amazon delivery driver who I thought was stealing my packages, I'm dead serious about this. And I feel like going back into the game, you kind of have your guard up and you're ready to look for anything that doesn't necessarily line up. And I think you saw that in my game, I'm clocking certain things that maybe other people aren't registering right away. So it's not the worst thing in the world, but I mean, not having everybody see your game, especially if you play the game that's in my opinion, my game wasn't that scary. I was very straightforward, I was very loyal. And I think people would have been more inclined to play with me if they would have watched 49 first. >> Okay, yeah, I don't disagree with that. I did also want to ask about the Rick Devins whisper to Joe. Like what was Devins thinking? Why did he not just tell Joe in that moment what you whispered? >> Dude, crazy, I mean, rookie mistake. And I love Rick Devins. He is an incredible gamer on so many levels, but like this was not a good moment for him. And it ended up hurting me. I think it's very clear that Devins did not want to work with Joe. And that's why he didn't bring up that alliance. But I mean, dude, why not bring it up? It's not making you look bad. Like no one's going to come at you, Rick, for saying that Ozzy wanted to start this alliance. If anything, it's going to make you look good and more reliable. And more importantly, it's going to make me look good too, right? So I was disappointed in the way that Devins handled that, but you know, what can you do? >> Yeah, that's really tough. I was puzzled and perplexed by why Rick would, if you were like, tell Joey's in our alliance, and then he's like, no, I'm not going to do that. >> I mean, I expect more from a returning player who really does have so many amazing skill sets that we saw in Edge of Extinction. But you're better than that. Come on. >> Yeah, come on, Rick. Riley, what do you have for Savannah? >> So many questions. Savannah, how soon did you know you were on 50? Was it before you even left the island after 49? >> Yeah, dude, it was literally less than 24 hours after I had 149. So the morning after, we're getting ready to go back home to the US, Jeff pulls me in a room, and basically says, well, producer's pulled me in a room, and Jeff is on the laptop, and he basically says, Savannah, congratulations. We want to invite you back for 50. And I'm like, is this a freaking joke? Like, really? You want me? Because, you know, I do think I played a good game in 49, but you don't really recognize everything that you've done until you're able to watch it back because, you know, part of it is, like, you still got a process, everything that happened. But you also do kind of recognize, like, damn, like I did play a good game, and I did deserve to be in 50 with some of these elite players. So, yeah, it was crazy. >> That's a wild turnaround. I also want to ask, what, when you're out there on a returning season, is there an element? I'm kind of like, playfully arguing with my wife about this. Is there an element where you consider, like, the entertainment factor, the season in, like, who goes home? You know, I think there was, I think it may have been Devon who said, like, oh, it's a bummer to send the Borneo representative, Jenna at home, at the very first tribal council. Like, does that play any factor at all that it's like, hey, we need to maybe we don't want to send the biggest fan favorites home or is it, like, cutthroat actually, we got to get these people out, we got to do it's best for our game. >> I mean, for me personally, I'm trying to do whatever I can. I don't care who's going home as long as it's not me. And, you know, even better if someone's going home that is not going to be helping my game move forward. But I am curious. So I don't know, maybe that was top of mind for some of people who were out there. I think that one of the beautiful things about playing for the first time is you have no idea what the public perception is going to be of you, right? So you can be so authentically yourself. You're not necessarily worried about all the screen time or living up to people's expectations. Whereas in the second time or the third time, maybe after you've played before, you know that you have a reputation. You know that people are going to be used a certain way. You know what worked and what didn't work. And I think that, honestly, for my observations, some things felt a little manufactured and a little more thoughtful in the way that they were, I don't know, done on this season. And it kind of, I don't know how to say this, it kind of takes away some of the magic in a sense. But yeah, I hope that makes sense. For me, you know, though, I'm like, although whoever just don't vote me out. Do you have like an example of like something manufactured? Oh, I mean, here's the thing. I feel like right now I'm on decent terms with everybody in the cast. So I don't want to throw too many stones here. But I do think people who were well received on a previous season knew that they were well received on a previous season. And I'm a big fan of the Real Housewives. So just to draw a little parallel, I know sometimes some of the Real Housewives will practice their reads or their lines or they'll get those from like, I don't know, comedians or professionals before they actually do their stuff. And I'm not saying people did that for 50, but it seems like people had come in with certain maybe ways to phrase certain things or ideas of how they were going to narrate certain things. And you would see that illustrated in certain moments. And it's just like, like curfew bringing notes. So you can remember quotes. I mean, it was just, I don't know. That's just my perspective. Maybe I'm wrong. I think I saw another one of my classmates though and mentioned something about it in a different piece of media. So I don't think I'm too far off, but that's just my opinion. Last question from me and I'll kick it over to Ashley. Why is Serena a bigger target on this track on paper? I'm saying that's what I'm saying, but you know why? Because she's too damn good. And it speaks so much to Serena's ability to connect with people socially and make them feel like she genuinely wants to work with them. And right now, like she does genuinely want to work with these people. I think that these people don't think that she wants to go to the end with them. And I'm like, no, like, no, what do you mean? Like, she's this good. Like, she's this good for a reason. She's asked back this many times for a reason. And you know, I'm someone who, if you're someone who will extend your, your arm to me and pull me up onto that raft, I will be loyal to you. And I'm curious to see if Serena will be as loyal to some of these other people as we go a little bit deeper into the game. Same here. You got Ashley. And I was wondering, I feel like it must have been exhausting to go from 49 to 50, just like right immediately. How are you? Are you okay? Well, now, yes, I'm doing good now. We're in a happy, safe space. Good. But to be very honest with you, I had a really hard summer. And that was for a number of reasons. I mean, it was a lot on my body, it was a lot on my mind. To be like perfectly honest, and I know this compared to a lot of issues people have in the world is very small. But I had a really hard time with the weight of like literally a physical weight of everything. And when I got back to the US, I had a really unhealthy relationship with food and my body and my self-image. And, you know, CBS is great. They hooked me up with a therapist who specializes in eating disorders, and I'm so grateful for that. But like last summer was so hard, just mentally and physically. And it's not necessarily because I went back to back. I don't think, I don't think that helped. But I think that just playing the game, I don't know that people realize how big of a toll it can put on someone. And I'm happy to say I survived the post game as well as the actual game itself. And you don't think about it every single day still? Exactly. Yeah. We're in a safe space now. Okay. Good. Did you feel like they were coming for you? I did. You know, when Jenna went home, I had a confessional that didn't make air. But I pretty much say, I'm worried, I'm next. And so you see me go on the journey. And part of that was because I'm like, okay, maybe I'll get something from this journey that can help me. And, you know, keep me in this game a little bit longer. But the bigger reason I went on this journey was because if I'm out of this game in two days, which I really was concerned about, I didn't want to just spend those two days on the beach with these people. I wanted to feel like I had a fuller survivor experience. And I think part of that part of the reason I was able to play a little bit looser in that way was because I had just won, you know, I didn't feel like I necessarily had that same desperation to stay in the game. I was really doing 50 for the experience of it all. And that's ultimately like the biggest reason why I went on the journey. I was genuinely concerned that I was going to be going home and I wanted to make sure that my time on the island was as full as it could be. I think you did a great job. I do also think that there's, it's, can't be easy from going to winning to early boot as well. I mean, you got a million dollars. That's fantastic. So I'm sure that when you sleep at night and wrap up into a $100 bill blanket, that's fine. Who was your number one out there? Who were you looking at and leaning on? on that tread the most. - You know, what's crazy? I really didn't have one. And if anyone had would have been Jenna, I couldn't stick my neck out though for her that early on in the game, especially when I felt like I was also someone who could very easily be the first boot. After Jenna left, though, I was really hoping to make inroads with Rick Devins. I talked about Rick in my survivor application video. I was a huge fan of him. So I genuinely wanted to work with him. And then Emily as well. I loved working with a strong woman in season 49. And I saw that in Emily as well. And I'm like, all right, maybe we can do something here. But I felt like I was honestly more of an obstacle in some of these people's stories versus a potential ally, which kind of sucks. But I mean, it is what it is. And in a weird way, I feel like it's almost better for my self-esteem that I was an earlier boot for season 50 because I really don't think there was much I could have done. And I think the further I got in the game, you're like, oh, like, what if I would have done this? I could have done this. Now I'm like, oh, well, you know, I can just really blame it on people not knowing my game. And whether that's true or not, that's what I'm going to tell myself. And I'm a little bit, you know, I'm at peace with everything. - Okay. Well, then what's worse? An early boot or getting to the end and getting zero votes? - Oh, I mean, if you've what, no, I would say probably being an early boot. I think emotionally and mentally, it definitely, like, if you get to the end and get no votes, you're like, why didn't I get that person's vote? Why didn't I get some votes? Why did I, like, I think there's, I think there's just two. It's too crushing. And getting voted out early, at least you can be like, well, you know, I tried and they didn't know me. I didn't connect enough as much as I should, but I also wasn't unknown. So Savannah, we're very sad. We loved watching you last season. We loved watching you this season. And we'll probably see you on another season at some point in the future. If rumor is, they're gonna be doing more returning season. So our fingers are crossed over here. Thank you so much. - Thank you, guys. And especially you, Tyson, like, I've been a huge fan of you. So, like, this all means so much to me coming from you. So thank you so, so much. It means the world. - Oh, my pleasure. Love you, Savannah. All right, that'll do it. Thank you. We will do more mailbags here in the future. So stay tuned. Thank you all for tuning in. Again, sad to see Savannah go, but happy to finally meet her in person. Thank you all. - See you.