SteveWillDoIt Breaks Down When Asked If He'll Go to Heaven

I consider myself a god in a sense. I literally think of life as a video game. Manipulating, creating your own reality. And that's what I do. If you had no money, you had no family, you had no friends, nothing. Would you be content with where you were at? I got a wire for four million dollars, and that was the richest I've ever been. Yeah, it was the poorest I've ever felt. On a scale of one to ten, ten being absolutely certain. If you were to die right now, how confident are you that you would go to have? Ten. But why do you feel like you're a ten? Just look at what the fuck I've done. Ten. Eleven. I don't give a fuck. Here. You okay? Just think. All the shit. I have the ability to be the richest, most selfish, most powerful person I've ever, and I'm not. That's why I think I could have. You could not buy your way into heaven. I couldn't afford it. 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And he's all into Jesus and reading the Bible, and it's because of you. And then all I hear is good things from you between Abigail to Cauchy Six-Nine, by the way. He loves you. Oh, that's really-- I like him a lot, too. That's amazing. How did we start talking? I just know we were on the phone and the conversation was so interesting because I didn't know that Jesus Christ was a real person, right? Yeah. I didn't know that Jesus Christ was in-- talked about in every religion, right? So from a video game perspective, okay, I had this whole crazy awakening. It was like, obviously there's a creator, right? Like, we don't just-- I don't know. I look at buildings and I'm so thankful for life. I'm like, how did this happen? And so there is a God, whatever you want to say. But then I heard, and everyone's saying, Jesus-- sorry, I'm looking at Abigail, Jesus Christ is a real person. And I kind of knew that. Like, on the Rogan podcast, he said something recently, Christianity makes the most sense of whatever. I didn't give a-- I'm too busy in my own world. But when it was like a fact, it's like, okay, we'll rewind. Someone like Togey, I think it's a genius, right? He's helped me so much in my YouTube career and just pivoting in terms of creativity and capturing an audience. It's like, whoa, Togey is a genius, right? So I look up to him and then someone I look up to in my craft, in my world, I'm like, close, Togey. And then he's doing Bible verse readings or whatever he's doing. I didn't really-- I don't judge anyone or anything. So I was just like, no, okay, that's interesting, because he caught my attention, because someone like Togey is like a Dana White to me. But Dana White's like, I don't believe in God, whatever, just be a good person. And I was kind of on that vibe. So Togey's what got me interesting, interesting. And then we were on the phone call and I realized, oh my God, Jesus Christ is a real person in terms of thinking of it as a video game. I'm like, okay, I consider myself a God in a sense. I don't mean this in an egotistical, I rule the world thing, but in a way, I do. What is a God, manipulating, creating your own reality? And if my video is not doing well, I don't buy views. I change the title a million times, A, B, testing, and I manipulate and create what views I want. So I was like, okay, oh my God, if I'm God, like if I were to be God and create earth, okay, I would send my son, like Juan Carlos, just send him and just say, I just go tell everyone. And then just be word of mouth. And then Bing, Bing, boom, that's all I need to do for people to be saved, right? And so then I was like, oh my God, Jesus is real. And then everything else is a distraction. And then that's sort of like, and that's kind of what I still think. I think, oh my God, Jesus is real. And then anything like anything that is written by a human, whether it's good, bad, or whatever, is irrelevant to me because there's this good and evil. And we were created by something, God, and everything else is meant as like the Bible and stuff. Anything written by humans, the Bible, and everything is a, it's like, there's obviously, like, by process of elimination, I assume that Christianity would be the best thing in terms of like morals and like being good, but like, I see things of like, waiting till marriage for sex or stuff like that, even though like, it could, there's probably a story or something behind it that is good. It's all meant for us to collide because it's like, one group's like, oh, you got to wait till marriage. And then another group's like, you can have seven wives and then another group's, you can have 12 year olds and then Bradley Martin's, you know, and it's just like, it's all meant for us to divide. And it's just like, okay, 12 year olds, pork, okay, not into 12 year olds, but love pork. I don't understand, but there's good and there's evil eye does just go good. And then there's, there's Christ. And that's it. Yeah, yeah. In terms of a video game, it's just like playing a simple, well, let me go ahead and answer one question. I sound crazy. You don't have to give up bacon to fall in Jesus. Let me go ahead and tell you, you can, you can eat your bacon, bro. So you're good. Dude, I think, you know, it's kind of like what I was trying to tell you earlier. If every religion talks about Jesus, they all have a different perspective of Jesus. So that's why it matters like what book, like if it's a Bible, if it's the Quran, if it's, you know, other literature gets to determine who Jesus is because the Muslim doesn't believe Jesus is God. So what he's, so what they say about Jesus isn't what we think is the truth about Jesus. That's why we think the Bible matters. And then everything outside of like just who Jesus is, whether it's, you know, sex, alcohol, you know, drugs, whatever that may be, that's, that stuff matters too. So almost like my brain can't even, it's just like, it stops at like the world is a crazy thing. Okay. Someone had to create it, create it. If I was God, okay, what I, just send somebody and just have them tell all the humans that I exist. And then I did my job. I'm not going to come back every 3,000 years and say, oh, did they write the book properly? And it's coming from a, a stance of, okay, I have millions of people that watch me. I send out messages into the world. I send things out. I want to manipulate, manipulate my own reality. And then there's this, this person thinking that I'm doing this and there's this person writing a story on me this way and there's this person telling me my story. And it's like, Oh, okay, this guy kind of got it right because he knows me. This guy kind of got it right. This guy got it right. But my process of elimination, I'd say, Togi's the best one. So Togi and, and whatever analogy, whatever the book weren't where I'm trying to use, Togi would be in this case in Christianity, if that makes sense, I'm saying. Because like my life is like, I send out messages and things and, and it's like nobody can really know what I'm saying besides me. But by process of elimination, if you had to follow anybody, the story of Steve, I would go the book of Togi, the book of Abby, and the book of Mother, but they would never have it to a T. So I'm just putting myself in God's shoes, if that makes sense. Yeah, you know, and then, and then we would start to go like, right, like what book this, like what book is Togi getting his morals from and what book is Abby getting her morals from and your mom, right? Because it's, it's not like your mom just woke up and was like, Oh, I'm going to create my own reality, right? She's like, she's going to pull it from some. I'm talking about the book of Steven when people tell the stories of me. Like you get what I'm saying? Because like I give out, like it, does that make sense what I'm saying? Like I, as a creator with millions of views, give out messages, like I'm a character and I create a TV show, right? So I give out messages, because I say to myself, I manipulate, and I make my own reality. And I make storylines. So I'm trying to put myself in God's shoes, if that makes sense, okay? Because from somebody. That manipulates reality, that creates his own reality, that does whatever it takes to win, does whatever it takes to get what he wants and you have to do these things and whatever. So, I sound crazy, okay, so. - No, no, you don't sound crazy at all. I think you made an interesting point, right? And I think this is important. You are someone who is really successful, right? You have a lot of things, you give a lot of things, right? I think anyone can look at you whether they know you personally not and say that. Money is going to have the same effect. Money allows you to become your own God to an extent, right? It's like, you could do a lot of things with money. - Yeah. - You can create your reality, you can manipulate your reality, but the difference between you and actually Christ himself is we believe that Christ is ultimately good, right? Like, we could do good things, but we're not inherently good. I'm not inherently good. I believe that no human being is inherently good. So that's where we would say, okay, if you didn't have money, exclude if you had nothing, if you had no money, you had no family, you had no friends, nothing. - Well, I have content where I'm at. And I'm not saying that necessarily money or friends or family is bad. I'm just saying, like, imagine if you had nothing. - Well, I felt like three years ago, when I lost my YouTube channel, I didn't have anything. And it wasn't because of money because, right away, I got a wire for four million dollars. And that was the richest I've ever been. So would you say that YouTube matters most to you? Because that's my passion. So if they want to take YouTube away from me, just give me a little bit of time to find a new passion. But yes, dude, I think that's a great point. Okay, so this is what we believe about Jesus, right? We believe that meaning and purpose stems from Jesus so that if I had nothing, I would still have meaning and purpose. That's why, like, with AI, AI replacing people's jobs, some people are losing meaning and purpose because the robot's taking their jobs and they put all of their meaning and purpose into their job. You know what I'm saying? And like, dude, YouTube's a great thing, passions are a great thing. And God has given you gifts for a reason. God doesn't want you to put those gifts on the shelf. But God wants you to use those gifts for His glory, right? And so if all of your meaning and purpose comes from YouTube and YouTube gets taken away, then we would say YouTube was your God. We get so deep into the YouTube taking away. And because it happened to you, it happened to me, but looking back on it. Okay, another reason I want to talk to you is because I am protected. Okay, and I can't, if it's not even a religious way, I just live life and it's like, I feel protected. Okay, anything that's bad that happens, that makes no sense, that's like, oh my God, why is this happening to me? It's like, oh, that makes sense, like my YouTube. I couldn't have been the biggest YouTuber in the world and been managed by the people I was managed by. That's just facts, plain and simple, it's like, oh my God. Of course, I had to get deleted. I had to like lose everything and become my own person and whatever. So everything that is really bad for me, that's like, why is this happening? Always makes sense at the end. That's why God makes sense to me. And I feel protected. Like, dude, you guys know what Desert Eagle is? I love this. The pistol. Yeah, I shot it inside and it was loaded, right? Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I shot it inside a condo building, right? Okay, okay. Yeah, and guess what happened? Nothing. Jesus Christ. Amen. Wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on. I was just like, another story. Cloudhouse, oh, this is fun. I did a video where I drank three bottles of wine, right? Okay. And the next thing you knew, I'm down and I drove my car and I hit and I hit, I guess, a mailbox, a car or whatever. And then next thing, and then what happened? Nothing. Zero repercussions. And guess what? The next day, and I do not, the cops, you think it's for me, right? I just drank and drive and hit 17 things, objects and stuff. And guess what? It was for, and someone else, something else, some different story, a cop coming to my house, the next day after drinking and driving. I mean, I don't even know if I was of legal age to drink and I'm sober now. And so it's like, I feel like I can tell this story. And I'm sober and like, like, I'm not know, like, yeah, hammy, a percussette. I'm going to take it. Okay? And it's like, oh, I thought you were laughing. That was a cough. Oh, okay. I was like, I got her. I did not get you. I got you sick. Yeah. And I did offer you a percussette the other day, but that was my weekend. So what, so do you, do you define sober as just no alcohol? You define sober as no alcohol and no drugs? I mean, so, so, so, sorry, you define sober as no alcohol, but you can have drugs? No. Sober is no alcohol, no, no mind altering thing besides marijuana. The percussette thing was kind of a joke, but like, what, what, what, what about marriage? Tell me about marijuana. Like, what that looks like in your life? Like, why is that the one thing that you include in your life? Just out of curiosity. Is it addiction? Every single addiction, because I've been smoking a marijuana for 10 years plus and at how old are you? I'm 28 or longer than 10 years. So I've been smoking marijuana for over 10 years. And right now, it's so weird because it is addiction because when I, I smoke all day and it does nothing. And I have magical weed milkshakes that bring me to, they make me Elon Musk in terms of creativity. A milkshake? No, I have a chef that makes anything weed and it makes you like, it's, it's not getting high. It's like, it's like this weird creativity. And that's like necessary for my work and stuff. But in terms of marijuana, like me smoking, yes, I am addicted to smoking marijuana and it's one of those things where I don't know. It's like, I don't know, I've been addicted to like, like in between, maybe because it's tobacco inside because I quit smoking cigarettes and I always, I only smoke spliffs. Oh, there it is. I'm an idiot. Well, dude, that's what it is. I'm smoking spliffs. I'm addicted. I would never smoke only weed in a bong or an only weed joint. So I'm addicted to tobacco, you know, you're not, well, first of all, you're not an idiot. I mean, I think it's cool that you're, you know, you recognize some things. The reason why I asked about the marijuana is because, you know, versus I've never had a tobacco before. So like if you and I had a beer, like it would probably affect me differently than it would affect you because you've drank before, whereas like, it doesn't matter if you've smoked for 10 years and I've never smoked one hit of a joint, THC automatically goes to your brain. So like, that's where, dude, I think God has given you so much creativity where I'm like, dude, I don't even think you need the marijuana or anything to be creative and I know it feels essential, but dude, it may feel like you can't use it, like you can't do it without it because you've used it for so long. But bro, God has given you such a unique mind and gifts and things that he wants you to use for his glory that like, you don't, you know, you don't have to just access those substances to do that, you know? No, thank you for that. And I agree. And I almost like, like you're 100% right? Because bro, my entire life from age, oh God, it's the saddest thing. Being a character, because I got into my, my start home or whatever from drinking. So from being, whenever I became Steve, we'll do it from any social event, anything I felt like I needed to drink. So I made over 100 YouTube videos and I had to drink. So even though I'm like addicted to smoking marijuana, where I was to where I am now is like so incredible because it is marijuana doesn't affect me. Like I asked Abby on the way here because I wanted to, I saved my weed protein shake for after. I was going to, while I was going to drink it in the before, like right when we started the podcast. So I'm like 100% sober and I left it on the plane. But she says I'm basically the same. I just can get a little crazy like when I'm super high, like with ideas, like Papino live streaming 24/7. I was super in on that for some reason. What is that? What is that? I was got super high and I thought like, it was like the best idea for Papino to live stream and beat me, like Steve will do it. And like, so like, that's like the only negative about getting super highs. I might get fixated on a bad idea. But I always say, okay, if you get super weird high and you have a hundred ideas, all you need is one good one. So that's kind of where though. Yeah. But do you imagine if you could get one good one without being high? You know what I mean? Like that is a big deal. So, but you need to, you need to get high for the weird ones. Dude, I don't think so. I don't think so. You know, because it goes to show that like, bro, you got the, you usually get high off chef's edibles. Well, dude, you're telling you there's something about like, well, for, you know, I think this is like, you know, a whole weed or alcohol or whatever. Yeah, we shouldn't even talk about this. No, no, no, bro, I'm so like we can't talk about it. Like we, I'm saying like it is okay to talk about it. You know, I just think like, bro, I think what God has for you is far greater than what you think is best for you. Because right now you're looking at me and say, no, I got to get high, I got to get the crazy ideas. And it's like, well, God, we don't even know what ideas God could give you because right now your source of creativity is coming from a substance instead of the creator himself. So, Imagine if you like went to God and were like, God, what ideas do you have for me? What do you want me to do? How can I use it? Because God is going, God will speak to us. He's promised to speak to us. No, he speaks. I swear, but I am so like, when I think of God, I always just go to just like, yeah, I can recognize Jesus Christ is real and stuff. But I still didn't, I just say, okay, that's a fact. And then I just say good versus evil. I can't even like, even saying the word, I don't know. Do I sound crazy? I just want to go towards like, let me ask you, who is good? Who or what is good? There's no who it's a feeling. It's a thing. Okay, good. Let's keep going on that. I don't know. It's something. Hitler thought what he did was good. And he had a feeling. Oh, and this is why, and this is a really bad joke. And this is why I tell I can't do drugs or alcohol, you bring up Hitler because like, oh, this is the worst, the worst thing ever. But do you see what I'm saying? It's like, but if I say, if we, I say that I can't do drugs or alcohol because I'm so crazy like a Hitler to where like someone like me can be used for good or evil. Does it make sense? That's why I like, I almost stay with, I sound crazy. No, no, no, I'm saying, because you're saying like, you need the marijuana, right? It's like, well, actually, no, I don't need marijuana. It helps me find. So I think of 90% of my stuff, I think like sober because marijuana and sober are like the same thing when you smoke as much as me. Like for me, like, I think like, like, it's hard for me to get high. Like, is what I'm saying? I understand. Like, I can't even take a day off or two days off because I'm such a fool about weed. So like, I just have a chef that gets me. It's like a weird thing to wear like, you're right, but you're so right to where I'm so addicted to where I can't even get high anymore. So it's like most of my ideas are quote unquote sober, even though I'm high, because high is like, I can't, there's no like right now. Like I'm, I am 100% sober, but if I were to hit a bong, I'd feel the same, but if you're, if you're, if you're, if you're not going to feel anything regardless, then why do it? Oh, good. That's a good. That's the maybe and dollar question. And I think, bro, maybe it could be just a habit thing. Maybe you've done it for so long. And bro, that doesn't mean that it's like, it's, it's not too late to start a sort of habit of like excluding it. But love to because I got to a point before I was falling on Jesus, just a level with you where like I would go, I would turn to sin because it was just familiar. Like I knew, I knew it was there. It's and I knew it would let me down. I literally knew it would let me down, but I would just go back because it was familiar. You know? And so like when, when, what following Jesus does, Steve, is it, it is giving, it is letting go full control of your life. And you're saying, I'm trusting that what God has is what's better for me. What if I do that without trying to get too deep into it? Because like, I'm like, I'm really thinking about what you say because I like, I like agree with you. It's not like I don't, I just, I just don't want to let's use YouTube as an example, right? You're deep into YouTube. And you didn't have to go deep because someone force you to you. You just love YouTube. Oh, dude. Bryce Crawford made burn. This is why everyone's up. Becomes a believer. He got my dude. It's it's it's it's the same thing with Jesus, bro. Yeah, he got me. He says the greatest commandment is to love him with your whole heart. I can't argue. I can love it. But everyone loves you. The religious guys, the religious guys, dude, they had 613 laws. And so when they, I mean, wait, was that a magical religious guy? So I'm going to try to, okay, I'm going to try to lock him and learn and and want to, because my problem is, sorry, I never, religion, I never wanted to learn. It's just like good and bad. Yeah. So I'm going to try to like, like, I swear, I'm so retarded. And when it's like, when it comes to like Catholicism and all those big book learnt words, if I want to learn it, I'll learn it. If I don't, like, it literally, I can't. But I really, I really like you. And I'm going to try things. Right. You know, and some people, bro, some people are different. Like, I have to listen to other certain people teach because I don't have a big vocabulary either. Oh, yeah. So like, I'm like, I have to, I have to listen to, you know, I'm the biggest diary of a one big hit fan ever. I'm 22, bro. I probably shouldn't be reading the diary of a one big hit, but I love diary of a one big hit. I mean, I did too. I was younger. You know, so, so but in Captain Underpants. Yeah. Dude, I love Captain Underpants. Yeah, dude. The flip around pictures. The fliporama, you know what I'm saying? When you would flip the pictures fast and it looks like that they're hitting each other. Oh, I don't remember that place. Yeah, dude. Yeah. It's like we're ordering Captain Underpants in the car. It's great. It's great literature. Dude, so let's, I'll try, this is one of the most important Bible stories that you can understand. This is this is the life of Jesus. This is historically documented. We have so much evidence that this happened to Jesus. Oh, someone, someone gave me a Bible verse and that's what made me call, call you or text you. You show me that at the gym. At the gym. Yeah. I couldn't, well, that's sorry. I had to, that you saying that made me think about it was a Bible verse. It was a beautiful. What did it say? It was so related. It was from the Proverbs, I think, or Psalms or something. And it was so cool because I was like someone from my gym and they're like, the whole gym praise for you. And I'm like, Oh, my God, it was beautiful. So Jesus is confronted by these guys called Pharisees. Okay, Pharisees are, it's just a fancy word for really smart religious people. Okay. So these really smart religious people come to Jesus and they ask him out of all the laws, which one is the best? Because there were six over 600 laws from who? The 600 laws from all the religions. No, no, no, so, so God had created the law. And this was like, what was it good? It wasn't in, it wasn't a God created the law exhaustive list, right? So this is how we know right from wrong. So when God created the law, that means that, but then humans read, read it down. So we believe that the Bible is the inspired word of God. That means God wrote it, but he used people to write it down, pen to paper. See, that's where you look and that's where I get lost right there. And I just like, I want to turn my brain off, but I'm not going because I just, I just go back to like, if I was God, I'd just send my Jesus, just send my son and just let him tell everyone and then those people tell everyone and just end a story and just be good. Here's why it's important people write it down. Because if people want to manipulate the life of Jesus, they could write something different, spread that message, right? So that's why it's important that people wrote it down. And that's why it's important that we have, we have, Steve, I'm talking tens of thousands of manuscripts that prove what they wrote when Jesus was alive is what we have today. So I can't 100% prove that for without the shadow of a doubt that Jesus Christ is God, but I have to look at where evidence points, right? And so like the odds are in Jesus' favor right now. But when it comes to these religious people go, which of all the laws are the best? Because they knew that they could arrest Jesus if he said that like not eating pork or something was better than murdering someone or you know what I mean? Like if he chose one out of the 600 and then something that they could, they could throw him in jail. And Jesus said the greatest commandment is loving God with your whole heart. He didn't pick one. He summarized everything by saying love him with your whole heart. So where they're like an account of multiple people that saw Jesus and then wrote down and he saw Jesus. Yeah, it's kind of like the same thing is like how we believe history, how we know World War II and things like that happen because people, I witness accounts, they wrote it down. And there's so many eyewitness accounts. There's even non-Christian accounts, like non-Christian historians that like don't want Jesus to be God, that right exact details that the Bible would display as well, which is pretty powerful. But what Jesus does is he makes this thing saying, if you love me with your whole heart, then you'll naturally like want to wait till marriage to have sex. You'll naturally want to give up the drugs or the alcohol. You'll naturally want to do these things because you love them, right? Same thing with YouTube. Like you learn the A/B thumbnail test, you learn how to title, you learn how to edit because you just love YouTube, right? It's like same thing. Okay. No, I like that comparing God to YouTube is like, I it's like shut the fuck up to myself. Shut up, Steve. That was great. You like that? I'm still on what I like, I believe just like let's be good, but I think it's cool your perspective and I can understand like where you're coming from and I can even acknowledge that like someone like you is like a very good force in the world. Like even though like I I don't want to say what do you what do you what do you think about my stance? I don't disagree with you. 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That's 90% off. Start your exclusive 60 day free trial and grab the bundle at logos.com/price. That's logos.com/price. Links in the description. All right. back to the episode, I think definitions are important. That's why I was asking you, well, what do you mean by good? And you said, well, good is a feeling. Yeah. And then that's when I said, well, Hitler had a feeling and he killed millions of people. So Hitler thought what he did was good. That's why it is important to step back and go, okay, is good and evil more than just a feeling? It's a. That is a tough one. Because if good, if good and evil is a feeling. 'Cause he thought he was doing good. Which is the same thing as even though you can't compare like this the most craziest. But like it's the same thing as if I were. When I buy something for $7 and say keep to change, I think I'm doing good. You can't compare the two, but like is that where you're. Like he thought he was doing good. Yeah, if good was good. If good was just a feeling and Hitler thought what he did was good. And most people look at what he didn't see. You know, he did was bad. We can't tell him that what he did was bad. 'Cause he thought what he did was good. Yeah, yeah. So that's why we have to go it's deeper than a feeling. Now, I would say most of the world, Christian or not, can you unanimously agree on most morals? Like murder is wrong and stuff like that. Why is that? That's such a small. And I say why is that? Because we believe that God created everyone and he put a moral code on people's hearts. And so people, for the most part, can you unanimously agree that like, hey, murder is wrong, stealing is wrong. And we shouldn't do this. Now you get into nuances. And then that's where it goes, okay, well, then if one culture thinks one thing over the other, then what's gonna top a culture? Who gets to create and establish the culture? Well, if God has always existed and God is good, he is the epitome of good, then he gets to determine what is right and what is wrong. And even if we don't agree, if he's God, he gets to call the shots. You see what I'm saying? So like, that's what I'm saying. Like with something like a sex before marriage. Where a lot of the world says, no, sex before marriage is fine. But if God says, hey, you should wait to have sex till marriage, he's not trying to be a buzzkill. He's just saying, I designed this for a reason. And so if we're trying to follow Jesus, we want to listen to everything that he has to say. Okay, so someone like Abby makes me a better person, right? I'm trying to think how to say this 'cause it's so weird. Okay, so I can be alone, right? And be on my mission, which is I think is good, but I think everyone can agree is good. So it's like it's actually good. And if I'm alone, I can just focus on that mission, right? If I'm alone, but if I have her and she's in my life, it's gonna be hard to sustain from sex because she's so beautiful. What I'm trying to say is I can be alone and do quote unquote God's work. Or I could be with her and quote unquote do God's work, but be so sexually frustrated because I'm so healthy and I've high testosterone. So let's talk about sex, right? 'Cause sex doesn't have to be an awkward conversation and Christianity, I think sometimes like Christians get weird about it. It's not awkward. Did you understand what I was saying? Like I can be totally understood. Good alone and then I can be good. Do you know Adam 22? Do you know who he is? Yeah. Yeah, so me and him kind of had a similar conversation because he's not really Christian at all. He's not really like a, he's more like atheist and stuff like that. But he was kind of telling me the same thing that like he just didn't want to give up sex and stuff like that and blah, blah, blah. Sex is a beautiful thing that God created for a man and a woman to come together under the confines of marriage, right? What I told Adam 22 is Adam 22 said something along the lines of like he didn't want to give up sex because he had high testosterone. Well, there are other ways to help testosterone like going to the gym. You're a thick guy. I'm assuming you like to work out, right? So like going to the gym is a way that you can get quote unquote like testosterone relief, right? And so for, so what I would encourage you is like when my wife and I were dating, like some of the things I love the most about my wife is that we laugh together, that we connect together. And I bet you and Abby doing an incredible job of that. And that's what's like gonna last longer when we're 80 years old and everyone looks like a trash bag full of water. It's like when we're all 80 years old, what matters is like the connection you have with someone, the friendship you have and like all those things. And so, you know, God's not trying to be a buzzkill with sex. But what he's saying is that he's like love is far greater than just that thing. That makes sense. - So if, if we built our relationship, excuse me, off of not sex, do I get the job pass? It's kind of like the pass. - Well, no, no, you wouldn't because like for the first like two months, we had no sex. That's equivalent to being friends with the black person for months and then it's just like saying. - Well, here's what I would say is that anything with sex is like you would want to wait. You would want to wait. And here's why. Here's why because there's a couple of reasons. But we can talk about, you know, Christian reasons or not or just strictly moral reasons. - Can I tell you a personal thing though? I feel like if it would be way easier, if I wasn't like, oh God, I don't mean this in a bad way, but like if I wasn't popular, like it'd be easier to be like, oh my God, I guess that's temptation, right? - I'm literally checkmaking, check mating myself. What are you saying? - No, I'm just saying like, you know, like with anything, like with sexual stuff in particular, right? It's like, oh God created sex and it's a beautiful gift from God and marriage. God, the Bible also says that self control is a fruit of the spirit, right? And so like, as Christians, when we follow Jesus and we're abstaining from sexual acts, we're abstaining from sin, we're practicing self control. - My argument there is like I have to have being who I am and having so much power and influence and whatever. It's like I have to have so much self control and a million other things that make me a quote, unquote, a good person and I do that with ease. So it's like, just let me get a job. If you already have an a million of areas to have self control and then what's the difference in adding one more area? - I can, but then I'd rather be alone and it's like, does that make sense? - Well bro, here's what I would say is that there is, there is far greater sense. - It's like I should get a ugly girlfriend at that point. - Well no, no, no, no, I would say, I would say, I hate my girlfriend, that's the thing too. - It's like, I want to have sex there because I'm, we're so connected and she's so much fun. - Yeah, I think connection can be built deeper than just, you know, sexual things and sexual desires. And like, and look, that is one of the reasons why, that is one of the reasons why God says to wait till marriage for sex because you were connecting with someone that is the most vulnerable you can get with someone is when you do sexual things with them, right? And so we've got to try to protect you with them. - But could that make you rush into marriage? Like, 'cause it's like, I don't know, like, 'cause someone like me, I can afford unlimited marriages. So it's like, you tell me that. It's like, let's just keep getting married. - Yeah, but marriage is deeper than sex. It's commitment, it's covenant. It is saying, like, in sickness and health and riches and poverty, I will be there for you, I will serve you, I will love you, I will lead you as a man, we're supposed to lead, the woman that we marry. You know, so marriage is just deeper than sexual things. - But here's what I, when you do this, this is why I go back to like all words written by humans. We're just going to meant to divide. And we should just focus on being good and evil because it's like, like, if we're trying to get people like, to go team Christ, like, arguing about sex and stuff, like that, could maybe like get them to go against Christ. And that's why, what is the root problem of sex, right? The root problem of sex is a satisfaction. Like, where am I finding satisfaction? - Right. - And you're saying, and what you said earlier, is you said, well, if I'm not allowed to have sex or anything, then it's like that I would rather be single. - Just be alone and focus on work. So it's like, you're just in like this weird position. 'Cause like, obviously she makes me such a better person, right? - Well, that matters more than anything sexual, right? In fact, she makes you a better person. Dude, she's so supportive of you. She's in your corner. She cares about you. You know, that is an amazing sign of someone that you would want to like, join hands with, right? Oh, and she's all about Christianity and Christ and stuff. - Relationships and stuff have to be built off. Like, for example, like our friendship. I hope, you know, you could call me anytime if you needed anything. - Oh, I know, dude. Yeah, right. Yeah, you're awesome. - Oh, thanks. - I hope everyone at home doesn't think I was ever going at you or anything. 'Cause I think you're amazing. - I think you're amazing, does it all? - I'm just, and I'm so retarded. I don't register things how other people do. Like, I'm gonna leave this area of this room and still think I'm like so bright on everything, but I'm so much more understanding of people. Even other people that are, it's someone that's into other religions. Like, I think what you said earlier about like, Jesus Christ is your, is like my YouTube, or like your YouTube, and that was very powerful. It makes me not judge anyone. Like, I never judge anyone, but like, I'm so not judging when it comes to religion now. Do you think I have problems, bro? - What do you mean by that? What do you mean? - Like, does Christ Crawford like as a man of Christ? And Jesus, like, do you think I have problems? - Bro, bro, is it problematic? - Can I ask you a question? Do you think I have problems? - I think you're too freaking awesome. - Well, what they say is-- - I don't even know how you do it. - Bro, can I just say something? Every human being that you walk by has problems. And that doesn't mean that somebody is worse than the other. But that recognizes that anyone that reads oxygen needs someone outside of themselves to help them. - Like, bro, imagine how much stress you're under right now, because you're trying to do so many things, to manipulate your reality, and you have so many work and money, and relationships, and people to take care of. And, bro, like, just what we were talking about, dude, you have so many people that you take care of. Like, bro, you are in a-- like take, like unintentionally, you're trying to take on a role of God. And you are a limited, and I'm not saying you're doing that intentionally, do you get what I'm saying when I say that? Like, you have so much responsibility, like, bro, I can't imagine how stressed you may be sometimes. Well, I, I do it to myself, and I do try to take on the role of God as like taking on everybody's problems, or taking on the world's problems, or whatever. Like, I really think I can do anything, anything I put my mind to. I think it's why me and Toguer are super close is because he has the same mindset and just do anything we put our minds to. And I wanted to come on here, just because I know you're, you're a good person. And I wanted like, I know Christ is real. I still go back to the whole video game thing. Like, my perspective, I still stand as like, the video game stance on God and stuff. I just wanted to get the message, like, whatever you believe in, if Christ is real and like, and if you, even if you look at it in a retarded standpoint standpoint as a video game, it's just Christ is real. And I think that's powerful and be good. So those like, just two things I think you're even, even if I'm the biggest whoever on this podcast, like, you're not Christ is real. You haven't been that at all and be good. And that's like, well, and I know this will get like crazy views. I think it's a powerful message because I'm all about messaging and everything and storylines and whatever. So the storyline to me was Bryce Crawford, good person, Togi, Abby, Mom, everyone says good things about you, right? And then there's me and I know that I can get a lot of views and stuff and I get lots of views. So I was just like, if we come together and pop because I remember on our phone calls, like, let's pause it and talk about, like, it's really kind of debating, right? And so like, just put it on podcasts and it'll get lots of views. And no matter what happens, the messaging is Christ is real and be good. So you remember how I told you early on on the phone that every religion has a perspective of Jesus. Oh, yeah, dude. That's where I'm 80 at sea. And that's why it's important to say, Jesus, I know I'd see that's the thing. Can you, can you just put like, oh my God, Christ is real, right? So Muslims are just going to say the same thing, but they have a different view of Jesus than I do. And so we'll, so that's why something like the Bible does matter because the Bible is going to be a historical account of who Jesus is. I feel bad about getting it. I don't want to get attacked for being in a religion. Well, I mean, am I going to get attacked for sin, Christ is real. Can I just be honest with you? Some people are going to love it. And dude, but here's the thing, Jesus knew this would happen. You know what he said? If the world hates you, remember, it hated me first, but I just forgot literally so retarded. I always identified Jesus Christ and Christianity as like the same, like I didn't even realize that there was a thing. Well, who Jesus being God is the Christian perspective? The Muslim thinks he was just a prophet. The Hindu and the Buddhist think he was just a teacher. The atheist doesn't even think God is real, right? So you see how there's so many different perspectives. Yeah. That's why it's important that the book matters. That's why it's important that the Bible matters, dude. But also to me, it's like almost like, almost want to stay away from that and just be good and just be like, Jesus is real because, bro, it's like, if you're wrong, I, even to Christian school, I'll be honest, I used to cry because I used to think, you know, people would be going to hell and like my dad or stuff, like we're going to wet in wild or blizzard beach. It's like, oh, this guy's going to hell. So it's almost like, oh, it's so weird. I still go, but I still am not on the thing. Like it's like, that's too much thinking and too many religions and too many things, like just be good and it's like, bro, I miss you, bro. God is not trying to do mental gymnastics with you. So when you say, when you say, how could it not be if you, if it's believe or it, you're in hell for eternity or you're this eternity and there's this, this rules for afterlife, like you're choosing a book for an afterlife. So to me, it's like, ah, well, you're choosing, you're choosing who Jesus is. That's what you're choosing. It's so confusing. You're choosing, but this is important. You know, why? Because Satan, right? I believe it's Satan is real and the Bible says Satan only comes to steal, kill and destroy. The devil does not want you to know who the real Jesus is. Okay. Who's Satan? Okay. Satan's a following angel, but who is Satan now? Is he represents? He's just bad. He, you know, you know how we say Jesus is good? Yeah. Satan's evil. Okay. And Satan was, okay, he was an angel. He was an angel. Okay. What is an angel? An angel is a created being that was created to worship God. Okay. Angels have free will the same way you and I have free will. We have the option to make decisions. And Satan wanted to become better than God. And so he rejected God. He convinced a third of the angels to try to rebel against God too. Those are his demons. Satan is the prince of the power of the earth. That means he runs this world right now. And so he, you said Satan runs this world right now? Satan runs this world. And so that's why there are different religions with different perspectives of Jesus because he's trying to say, well, I don't have to tell people Jesus isn't real. I just have to give them a different Jesus than who Jesus actually is so that they don't experience God. That's why there's different perspectives. That's why the Bible matters. That's why Jesus being God does matter. My thing is too. I love what you said, how Jesus is my, is like YouTube to me. Because I think what you're doing is beautiful and perfect. But to me, it's so much information. It's like, I need to build Z-Coliseum and make YouTube videos. It's like I, and it almost seems like by process of elimination, Christianity seems like the best choice. But also at the same time, is it wrong that I really don't want to like learn or anything like I, I as a retard, I can just say, oh my God, there are so many people that say that I have accounts that Jesus is real, oh, it's facts. Oh, what would I do if I created the earth? I'd send my son Juan Carlos and say, oh, and I'm still like, I, I'm so retarded in such an ego-tistical, so I don't think that I want to even learn anything after this podcast besides like, can I say even sometimes, like, I don't even want to read my Bible sometimes? I get tired. Sometimes I don't want to pray. Bro, you're a human. That's equivalent to me not wanting to, I get a haircut for YouTube because it's like, I have to get a haircut. But I think that's where like, dude, you're entering into a new world where you're thinking about exploring something that could change your life and a love for something like that doesn't just happen overnight sometimes. Sometimes you need some time to learn and grow and understand and ask questions and wrestle with it. Like bro, God's not afraid of your doubts. God wants you to bring your doubts to him. Well, what if I die right now? Where am I going? What if I, what if a doubter dies or a guy on the fence? See, that's where I get, that's where it's a mind because if I was God, I wouldn't want myself just to be able to, but if you put faith in Jesus, life doesn't begin in heaven. Life begins the day you follow Jesus because you get Jesus. You get him. It's too much of a mind. Okay. Let's do this. If God is all powerful and all good and all just, he can do whatever he wants, right? Like the Jews. He can do whatever he wants, right? If he gets God. So why couldn't God build a relationship with you right now if he wanted to? I think he's doing it through like people like Togi and Abby, especially Togi, Togi's a powerful one. And that's a, that's a powerhouse there. I mean, look at his life, dude. When I met him, when I met him, he was not, he wasn't like, he had a lot of questions about Jesus. Yeah. And he was doing a lot of things that he doesn't do anymore. Yeah. Do you think that he just like overnight was like, oh, yeah, I'm going to, dude, he left the podcast and he told me he's like, yeah, but I mean, thanks for answering my questions. But like, this probably isn't for me. Well, he said that. Yes, he said that to us. Really? Yes. And look at him now. And so I'm saying like, that's the kind of powerful thing that Jesus can do. And look at his life. And he's so passionate about it. Yeah, he is. It wasn't just an overnight thing for him. So bro, don't beat yourself up just because it's taken some time to understand some things. These guys are going to beat me the fuck up, my prison Dylan, my gosh, no, the clippers, the nerds. No, not these guys. No, it's the clippers. Do you think my guys could beat you up or no? Yeah, he's pretty big. I'm just kidding. No, but dude, you know what? Who cares? No, I don't care. I don't care. I just, dude, just please understand, I'm, I'm literally retarded. Okay. And Bryce got the togi. I look up the togi, Bryce is a good guy. I figured Jesus is real. But then I say that. It's like, oh my god. There's a thousand different religions in its lake. Oh, it's so tough, man, but let's be good. Dude, I ask everyone, I ask everyone this question, I want to ask you this question. Okay. On a scale of one to 10, 10 being absolutely certain, one being not certain at all. If you were to die right now, how confident are you that you would go to heaven? 10. Why 10? If there's a, if there is a heaven, okay, if, if I was a god and I made her, then yeah. Why do you feel like you're a 10? What would get you to heaven in your perspective? Just being selfless, man. So if you were standing before the gates and God was there and He said, why should I let you in? What would you say? Just look at what I've done. Dude, I could literally have a billion dollars right now, have zero. Okay. Yeah, I have 10 houses and stuff, but like selfless, yes, 10, 11, I don't give a fuck. Okay. I don't know why I'd buy me so blamed you. I'm okay, because I would go to heaven, I really believe that what's got you crying? Duke, I literally like, like, dude, I have the ability to be the richest, most selfish, most powerful person ever, and I'm not. So yeah, that's why I think I'd go to heaven. Bro, just crying, just think all that I've done. I don't even know why I'm crying. Well, dude, you know, I know you're obviously a smart guy and you are successful, but really, let me tell you something. Like, you don't, you don't got to prove anything, God. I'm not, it's not proving anything to God. I know, dude, I just mean like, bro, you, you do so much for other people, and it can be easy to think that, oh, it's something I can do to get to heaven. No, it's not what to do. It's like, bro, I don't, like, I wish I was different. Like, I would have so much money. Like, that's why I go to heaven. I do godly things. I know choice, bro, it sucks. Do you know what's interesting about the money thing? It's like, you could not buy your way in heaven. Dude, and that's great. You know, you know who can? God can afford it. Dude, if I gave you, you and Abby, too, courtside tickets to the Lakers gang. And you guys went and you scanned the tickets in and you walked down and security stopped you towards the bottom. And they said, why should I let you in? You would say, well, we have tickets. And they would say, well, who gave you those tickets? And you would say, well, Bryce did. They were a gift. Bryce gave them to me. Dude, we can't buy our way into heaven, earn our way into heaven, do enough good things to get into heaven because no one's good except Jesus Christ, right? And that's why Jesus had to die on the cross because we have an infinite debt towards God. And the only way to pay an infinite debt is within eternal price. And so the same way you can't afford heaven, I can't either. Nobody can afford heaven. Christ paid the price. When he died on the cross, he punched her ticket. He punched my ticket. Would Christ rather you would rob? Okay. No, here's where I think when you say, okay, so there's a good person that just like does really good and it's like good morals and then there's a doesn't believe in God as an atheist. And then there's Jeffrey Dahmer that loves killing black people. And he believes in God. Is he going to go to heaven versus the good guy that just is like on the fence is like just like can't wrap his mind around it. That's why I get so thrown off. Is it as easy as like just I think it's super. So I would say, number one, the Bible would say if someone does not have faith in Jesus and they don't go to heaven. But the second is is that God makes himself, he reveals himself to us every day through different ways. For example, God could be using this conversation right now to speak to you. God could use other things or people, but also at the same time you said earlier, well, why wouldn't you know, if God just sent Jesus and Jesus was like, yeah, I'm the way like you guys figure it out. Like I'm the way follow me. That's how I see it. Well, that's enough. You know, those guys killed Jesus that he said to they killed him. And so when people say today, oh, if Jesus just showed up, I would totally believe in him. I would say, actually, there's a high probability that you might not because people said that people waited on Jesus for thousands of years and he finally showed up and they killed him and they rejected him. Wait, what? Why did they kill him? So you have this thing where they caught Palm Sunday. There was a day when Jesus was riding through a city on a donkey and everyone was praising him. They were like, you're the man. You're the best. Like we love you. And then there was this holiday called Passover. And every year, the Jews had a tradition where they would release one prisoner from Rome that there was somebody in jail that they would release. It was a random. It was random. Okay. And the Jews decided to arrest Jesus that they wanted to put him on trial because they thought he was blaspheming him because he was claiming to be God. And they were like, there's no way he's God. He was claiming to be God. And so they took him to the Roman government, the Roman government said he's done nothing wrong. But they knew that the Jews wanted him dead. So see, you say this, I don't like when you say the Jews in the Roman, it's like all. It's doesn't nothing. But this is this is beautiful. This is beautiful. And I even know what to think. I think of Aaron Steinberg and his father, like I don't even know like like it was just the it was just the Jewish people at the time. No, I know. But like even a guy guy just I don't even know what Jews were learned anything about Jews or Jewish people until recently, because now they're just such a hot topic now. But something like they guys and I've never cared to learn about anything like that, like even the word Jews or Catholic or parallel or horizontal. Those are all these words. It's just like I don't care. Let's let's look at audience retention and deposit volume and being good. And I always go back to being good because it's like there's a creative and good and evil. Well, this story, this is why the story is important because Jesus did nothing wrong, bro. He was a good dude. He did nothing wrong. He was without flaw. And then you do miracles. The cover. He did miracles, bro. He healed the sick. He opened blood. Okay. Was that real? Was that in six different accounts or more different accounts? Like people like, okay, he did this. Yes. Yes. So the government comes in front of people because they knew that the the holiday was coming up where they had to release one prisoner in jail and they arrested Jesus. So they said, which guy do you want? Do you want Jesus? Do you want to release Jesus who's done nothing wrong? Or they had this guy in jail that they offered his name was Barabbas. Barabbas was a murderer. He was a rebel. Some some accounts say that he was a rapist. So he was a legit criminal. So he said, who do you want to release? You want to release the guy that's actually done bad stuff and set that guy free. Or do you want to set free Jesus who's done nothing wrong? And the crowd goes, kill Jesus and release the bad guy. Why? You're telling me, bro. So they release Barabbas. He goes set free and they kill Jesus. The most gruesome, the worst death ever according to human history. They beat Jesus so bad. Steve, they said he didn't even look like a human being. Yeah. But I don't get that what they see right there. That's where I get lost. And I'm like, okay, you lost me. But that picture right there is exactly what happens with heaven. Barabbas didn't deserve to go free. You and I don't deserve to go free either. That's why what Jesus did is beautiful. Jesus never never fought the crowd. He never said I didn't do that. I didn't say that. He stayed silent because what you said earlier, you said you can't forge a way into heaven. I can't either. And Jesus is God. He paid the price. He willingly went to the cross. He willingly died for you because he knew someone had to pay the price. So that's why he allowed that to happen to him. But you see when I get lost, I get lost like, okay, there's a murderer and then there's Jesus. Why? Why they release the murderer versus Jesus? And then I just I get lost there because like I'm so on common sense. That proves the point. That proves two points. The first point is even if Jesus was here, people would still reject him because they don't want him. And so much of a mind. The person that goes to hell, there's partially they want to go there. They chose to go there. They chose to reject God, you know, like that's their choice. But secondly, like Jesus allowed himself to die the worst death ever in human history because somebody had to pay the price. And he paid the price. He died for you, bro. That's what I'm saying. You have nothing. There's nothing you can do to earn your way to heaven. He's done it. He's brought heaven to you by dying on the cross. Oh, I see I get lost. I see I get I do get lost. That's okay. And I'm trying. I can't even help. Like the story of and I'm trying to like pay attention and then not go to the monkey clapping because that's where it usually goes like in real life. If you I went to Christian school, like obviously I didn't I don't remember anything. But I get lost with the story of like, okay, there's a guy that's a murder and I know you're and you have you always have an answer to every question, but I'm still always like, oh, that's a mind. Like even though when you answer something, it's like, oh, that makes sense. But still I just can't fully like I don't know. And then it then it goes back to like everything that humans wrote, I think was meant to divide us. You're in and we should just focus on. Let me ask you a question. It's okay if you don't have an answer. Okay. Why would Jesus if he did nothing wrong? Allow him to die a death. He did not deserve. Why did Jesus allow himself to die if he didn't deserve it? Well, he had no, he had no choice. It's him against a bunch of people, right? Well, if he was God, could he have gotten himself out of the situation? Well, yeah, I don't know. I don't know what kind of the answer is because he loved you. Love does things that doesn't make sense. Love does things for people that if you never see them shake their hand again. Do you know how many people you've given money to that you may never see ever again? That's love, bro. You know what's powerful is a lot of people pray for me for real. Yeah. I think it's cool. That is cool. You know why? You know why? Because they understand that even though they're so grateful for the physical thing you do for them, given money, they realize that there's something far better than money. And that's Jesus. They want you to have that. And that's why Jesus died. Something he didn't deserve because he wants you to have relationship with him. Okay. I have one final question because I am hoping that I leave this podcast in Togi, like I have a Togi moment, but I'll just say if I don't have a Togi moment and I just leave. Where do you think I am or where I stand at? like this is a crazy question, like when I die, if right now I'm just like, okay, I believe Jesus Christ is real because of like he was, he was real. But I'm just, I just can't, I don't care or want to learn or want to even have an opinion on whether this story is real or this was real or this fake. Like I just still I'm going to like want to just put everything aside, forget everything and just say, God's real. He made it, he made it. He had his son Jesus that came down and he died for our sins and be good. And that's it. And just leave it at that and not even think about anything else, even if I'm wrong, wrong how I say, is it wrong? And I just think about it like that and just then close the book. You know what it's so funny to me is you say you don't want to learn about Jesus. You know how many times you call me and text me. Bro, you say you don't want to learn about Jesus. And you call me all the time. Well, I told, I was curious. Togey and Abigail and bro, I want you to keep calling me, but you need to see you look at look at the Bible. The guy coming up to me and showing you the Bible and oh and something else happened. I opened up a Jesus book in the first place I see his gambling. I'm like, Oh my God Christ. And that was five years ago when I like got it. Like where Jesus, I never learned that Jesus was a real person. I just like suddenly like felt something like a little tingle, you know? I was kind of like a looting this earlier. Like you got it. You got to first fall in love with Jesus before you make a bunch of changes because then the changes are just stuff that you don't want to do. And when you love God, you make changes because you love them. Can Jesus, when you say fall in love with Jesus, can you just be like fall in love with like being good? Is that the same thing? You say fall in love with Jesus? Like what is that? Well, when you love Jesus, right? If Jesus is good, right? And I love Jesus. And I want to listen to Jesus. And he's gonna, I'm going to become more like him. If Jesus is good, I'm going to do the things that Jesus would do, which would ultimately be good. Okay. Falling Jesus makes people like, I don't know how to say this like in a more like following Jesus, like you just leave bad habits behind. You pick up better habits. You treat people differently. You leave things in the past that you don't think you would leave, right? But it all stems from love. Like I could, I would never sit here, Steve, if you're not like fully bought into Jesus and be like, bro, you have to give up X, Y and Z. If you don't even love Jesus in the first place, then do it. Then try to give up that other stuff is going to be exhausting because you're not even sold on, like you bro, you got to get all in on Jesus. And then the other stuff will be easier to give up the more, the more time you start believing in Jesus, fall in Jesus and stuff like that. That's the root issue. We got, we got to figure that out. But, but bro, I was saying earlier, like dude, you are more curious than you think than you give yourself credit for how can I not be when someone like Togi, a girlfriend, my mom are all really into Christianity or, and I never knew Jesus was like, factually a real person. And then it was just like, that was like a big thing because you remember I called you. It was like a big, I was like, oh my God, I didn't know that. That was cool. Yeah. And I cried on their podcasts, but I couldn't help it. And you know, it's funny about that is being stone cold sober and having something come over you where it's like, yeah, I 100% would get into heaven. And I can't tell you why I cried, but like, because I believe so. It's not because of a dollar amount, because if it was a dollar month, then yes, I would, because we'd be at over a hundred million dollars. But it's it's the reasoning behind the money, I guess. Well, that's where I would say like for heaven, like as Christians, we don't believe that we can get to heaven because of something we don't. We believe Jesus is the is the way, right? Like he's the reason we get to heaven. And heaven is eternity with God. That's it. That's literally what heaven is. There's other stuff up there too. Like there's other stuff up there. But oh, I have a question about this is see, we could talk on forever because this you can ask whatever. This is something that's made me like, oh, I don't like it when I see, like your Muslim people talk about Christianity and they're saying, when you're in heaven, you have no memory or anything of your earth of your earthly body. Is that true? I actually don't know. Is that what the the Bible says? I actually have to do more research. So when I see stuff like that or something, I'm like, I go back to where like Jesus was a real person and just be good because everything, all this other information is meant to divide us because when I see something like that, it's like it's it makes me question and think too deep when I should just think, oh, let's be good. Does that make sense? Like when I see all these different point of views, it's it's making me think too hard when I should just be thinking to be good. Well, whether or not that's true, right? The best part about heaven is God. That's the best part. And I know it sounds crazy to think about. But it's almost crazy. It's almost like nothing else would really matter if you have God. Now there's obviously other things in heaven. There's like, there's a Bible that gives a little descriptions of heaven too. So it's not just going to be like, we're not just going to be singing 24/7, okay? Like there's stuff going on up there. But the best part about is that we're with God. And that's the best part about following Jesus. It's like, as a Christian, if if I lost everything, friends, relationships, everything, it would be hard. It would be tough. I would have long nights. I would probably cry a lot. But there would be a part of me that had peace. And I would have peace because I had Jesus. And that that's something that Christianity and Christ can offer you. That dude, no gambling deal can offer you. No substance can offer you. No friendship can offer you. No relationship can offer you. Because those things can go. People can change their minds about you. Companies can squish, switch up on you. That's what happens. That's a real life, right? But nobody, nobody, anybody can do that. God is the only one who remains consistent, who does not change his mind about you, who will never leave you in the darkest moment, who wants to be with you on the peaks of life and the lows of life. He wants to be involved in everything. But we have to let him in our life. I think I am. I mean, I'm here, right? Bro, you're slowly doing it. And I think that's amazing. And I'm with Abigail. And she wants that for you. She wants it for you. You know, she wants you to know Jesus. And that's important. And guys, but I want to say, sorry, if I said anything to make anyone mad, okay, I really like, I stopped myself in conversation on the phone with you. And I was like, I know this is so interesting. And I know this will get so many views. And at the end of the day, it's like, I don't even like saying is that I was what I was saying before, like, be good. And that crisis is real. And it's like, there's like a thousand different crises. I don't even know what I'm saying. So it's like, I'm confused on the whole thing. And I think it's okay to tell people, I am confused. And I am mine. And I don't know what's going on. All I know is that Toggy's awesome. And he's a good person. And Abby's awesome. And she's a good person. And my mom's awesome. And she's a really good person. And you're awesome. And you're a good person. And you guys all follow Christ. So, that's it. It's a journey. It's a journey. Dude, let me pray for you, bro. I really want to pray for you. Okay. All right. Jesus, thank you so much for Steve God. And thank you just for his vulnerability and his heart and just being open and honest and just verbally processing out loud where he is with you and trying to understand you. Jesus, would you just soften his heart to the reality of who you are? God, would you move in his life? Jesus, would you bring conviction and speak to him and guide him, protect him? Lord, we just thank you for who he is. God continue to bring Christians this way to show your love to him and encourage him and be there for him. Lord, I thank you for his life. I thank you for this new friendship. We love Steve so much and we love you, Jesus. It's in your name. We pray. Amen.