Steven and Jana Ben-Nun

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Right, that's right exactly, and thank you for having us, James, it's an honor to be here, thank you. No, it's an absolute pleasure, thank you for doing what you do, Hannah, I'm just, I'm just going to check that I've got the right microphone, yeah, I have good, yeah that's good. First of all, tell me about yourselves. Okay, well when we are together on with Steve, it's always hard, who is going to start first, so go ahead Steve, what are we? Yes. Well, we do, we do do a a YouTube video called our channel called Israeli News Live, and although we don't support what Israel is doing by any means in the Middle East, but nonetheless, that's where we're best known at, and we came out of Zionism about nine years ago, and coming out of that has caused us to re-look at a lot of biblical things as well. We have a platform called the New N Institute of Biblical Research, so we do research a lot of, you know, biblical documents, things like that, and so it takes us into Judaism, into Talmudism, you know, what those beliefs are, and as well as in the Christian Zionist views, things like that, and we really have tried to go back and change a lot of that information, not change it, but correct the mistakes that are made, and that's kind of where Yana got really into the Noah Hyde laws as well, which I'll let her take that part out. Yeah, so I discovered Noah Hyde laws, not that they were not discovered before, but at the time when I heard about Noah Hyde laws, I was in Israel, and I think I picked up a little brochure somewhere in the old town of Jerusalem, and it spoke about Noah Hyde laws, and I just kind of dismissed it. I said, "Oh, you know, it's just something that belongs to a dust of history or whatever, not really important to me." But then, as we were researching, I found the public 1-0-2-1-4, and when I read a little small print, it said that the nation of United States was founded on basis of Noah Hyde laws, and I was like, "We are based on Noah Hyde laws." I mean, this is, I heard about Noah Hyde laws from that brochure a long time, so this is like very beginnings of me, kind of starting to pay attention, and I went into it, and when I researched it more and more and more, I found out, wow, this is in the United States politics already, like there is a one leg in the politics, and then I found out that they promote Noah Hyde laws by universal language, universal ethics, peace and justice in the world, peace and security, and I started connecting the dots and I got kind of panicked. I was like, "Oh, people don't even know about this. This is serious. It's just they're planning something." And then, I was starting listening to rabbis, and the ones that promote heavily Noah Hyde laws, and I was able to connect them to one specific Hatsidic movement called Kabad, they're the ones who are promoting it, and they have these legs in every government of the world, unfortunately, they're everywhere. They have these missionaries called Shluhim and their main mission, they have two missions, and number one is to convert every Jew back to Judaism, bring them back to Judaism, all our simulated Jews, secular Jews. If you call yourself a Jew, come to Kabadism, that's their number one mission, and number two is reach out to the Gentiles and teach them about Noah Hyde laws, as a future system, religious system of the New World War. Great, I don't, I don't want to jump the gun here, because I want to hear about your, sure, the Noah Hyde laws are going to be, I'm really looking forward to finding out more about them. But first, I want to know where you're coming from. Are you both Jewish? Yes, and still is well, okay, the people. We're from Jewish families that were like in my case, same as in Yannis case, our families were Jewish, but not practicing Jews. That's the kind of thing you most choose, isn't it? I mean, most Jews have just kind of faded out. Right, and my grandfather always said, because of Hitler, his father and brothers came over to the United States illegally, they were ship merchants, and they said there's so much persecution, even long before, you know, Hitler really got heavily into power. I guess it was early on back like in the 20s, and they came to the United States and lived here, but then they didn't want, they, they were more secular, so they didn't want anyone knowing they were Jewish, so they kind of altered their name a little bit. And, and with my father's side of the family, they were Sephardic, so they came in much earlier, but they'd converted to Christianity, but I was never around my father growing up. And Yannis has a similar story. Well, I have my own story, it's mostly on my father's side. My mother was Catholic, her family, but she converted to Jehovah's Witnesses, Billy. So she brought me up in that my mother was a dominant decision maker in her family, what we're going to believe spiritually. I grew up in Wachtauer organization, which I came out of by Miracle in 2010, and I came to Christ. But on my father's side, I have family who were Jews, especially my grandmother. She was Jewish, and I don't know how far she practiced. I don't think it was very dedicated on her part. It's just main things. She would never accept Christianity. She kept certain objects of Judaism as, you know, they're too hard on stuff. So, but according to main rabbinic Judaism, I'm not actually Jewish. I'm according to them, because it's not my mother's side. It goes by the lineage of the mother. So I'm considered Gentile. Right. And Steve, you are, your mother was Jewish. Yeah, both parents were Jewish on my side of the family. And before you sort of made your discovery about you talked about being in the Zionist movement, we massively pro-Zionist. Yes, very, very pro-Zionist. I lived in Israel back in 2004, and often on between 2004-2006 was there quite frequently. I had a lot of friends over time that I've developed in the Knesset. So I was very active, and I think that's why they liked our news channel, Israeli News Live. We were even on cable television here in America for a year, and we were heavily promoting Israel. And because I was like one of the early Christians in my family, and I believed on Jesus early on, which, you know, my family just kind of ignored it because they weren't religious anyway. And because they were more secular, they didn't care. So as I came up, I really just studied, when I would study the scripture, I would study it through the Scofield lenses. And so therefore, it just steers you right into that Zionist theology. And I was in a suicide bombing on September 22, 2004, that was probably the first time that I really began to wonder, why are these people blowing themselves up? I didn't take it as, you know, what a evil bunch of people just to blow everybody up, you know, because here I am by the grace of God, I escaped it, but at the same time, the girl was 18 years old, and that bothered me, you know, why would she do that? You know? Wow, what's it, what's it? Are they 18-year-old girl blew herself up near you? Yes, I actually was going down the sidewalk with her at the time, and I just kept wrestling with these thoughts in my head. I was actually on the phone, she's coming down, I'm coming down, and this thought comes into my mind, why are you going this way? You know, you know, you hate this way, right? And then I'm like, you know, or I'm sorry, when I was first going, I was going in a direction that was away from her, and that's when this thought comes into my mind, you hate going this way, why are you doing this? Go the other way. So I turn on to come back out, when I come back out, now I'm going down the sidewalk with her, and then it's just like a general thought comes to my mind. If you go this way, you'll get there to the corner, you'll stand there, you'll turn your back to the wind, and you won't be able to, the person won't be able to hear you on the phone, you should go back the other way. And I'm sitting there thinking to myself, because just like my think, my own thoughts thinking, right? But I thought in my mind, I remember saying, okay, fine, I'll go the other way. Well, going back the other way is what saved my life, because when she blew herself up, the very pole that always stood by was just torn out with Shrapnel. And she killed the two security guards that were standing there. And do you remember her face or anything? Do you remember? I didn't pay attention to her, anything like that. You know, I just, you know, later, you know, of course I was there, you know, she was just in pieces afterwards, which was just very horrible to see. But, you know, the Israeli forces, this is one reason why I know October 7th, something was definitely wrong there, because, you know, Israelis can respond so rapidly, it's not even burning. The slightest little thing goes off and they're there. So October 7th, there's no such thing as an eight hour stand down. That just didn't happen. Yes, we, I think we should come on to that. But I'm just curious about the incident, because I mean, you probably know, I'm a Christian as well. And I'm in daily conversation. Well, hourly conversation with, with, with God. And trying to, trying to, well, try to get to know him better. And incidents like that make me wonder, I mean, do you think it must have been your guardian angel or something like that that was? I do believe that, you know, just like, for example, you could, I could, it's almost like a battle going on in the mind. It's like the devil and the holy spirit at the same time, because one side was very blunt. And why are you doing this? You know, you go in the wrong way, you hate it, you know, and then this gentle thought would be, it would just come to me, it's like, you know, explaining gently, if you do this, it won't be good. You do have to make another call, the windable, you won't like it. Go back the other way that you were going. So it's almost like my feet were being directed to go the correct way to stay out of the harm's way. And it put me just low enough when she blew herself up. This, the, the embankment was really steep and when it, when I started going down it and she blew herself up, the concussion still knocked me down. But I was still at that point there, you know, all any debris that would come my way was now going over the top of my head, rather than actually hitting me directly. You know, so I realized that it was just the mercy of God that I didn't die that day, you know, because otherwise I would have went, if I would have followed my own way of thinking, because there was, is what it was, I prayed and there's little set of woods there and I would pray there each day. And because I like to just get alone in nature. And so when I went the other direction, that was the easy way to get there, because I could just follow the road and then I could go over the side of the embankment there and then walk down in the woods. And it wasn't this really steep, steep hill. And, you know, and because it's just like going into your own, the Jerusalem is on a mountain anyway. And then you suddenly you're going down into a valley, but you go very rapid descent. And, you know, and it's hard on the shins. And I didn't like going that way. So it was, so when I had that thought, it was true. I hated that way, because, you know, it's a lot of pressure on your legs, because you're going down like really steep. And the other way, it's just gentle slope, takes you a little longer to get there, but, you know, it'd be a lot easier. So yeah, that was just an amazing day that day. So, okay, so you lived in in Israel. And you were passionate, dishonest at the time. Did you notice anything that sort of gave you pause that made you question your, your zeal for Zionism? Or was it, did it all look great at the time? The things that made me give pause was that day there. The other one was, I had a roommate. I'd rented a house up in a place called Gibat-Humivitar. And the house that I was living in there, I had a roommate there who was an IDF soldier. Now, he wasn't there all the time. He would come up. He'd rent a room from me. And he would stay there often on to go through his therapy. And we talked a lot. And he would tell me, the one thing he told me that really bothered me one day, as we were talking, was he was telling me about target practicing on Palestinians. And at first, I thought he was just kidding around. And then he got real serious. He says, "No." He says, "Seriously, we target practice." You know, make sure your shooting is good, you know. And I told him his name was Iran. And I said, "Hooran," I said, "That's terrible. You cannot target practice on human beings." Oh, Stephen, what are you talking about? You're going to make me feel bad for what I did. I said, "Well, you should." You know, and you know, he was, his family was from Iran. That's where he gets his name from. But he was lived down in Bersheva. And he would come up for therapy. So he would stay with me when he did. But you know, it really made me wonder. And of course, then, because I really, you know, the Jewish people, they make you want to just hate Palestinians. And so it came to a time where it was like, you know, you begin to find out that Palestinian people have such a very gentle nature. You know, I mean, yeah, there are radicals, but there are radicals because they've been made radical. And it was more from when Yana and I, we went over to Israel and lived there for a short period of time after we got married. And was it 2015, something like that? 2014. Yeah. And, and, you know, what the incidence, Steve is talking about, I would say they were seeds for him to start thinking, but he still didn't come out of Zionism. I didn't come out. I still hate him. Because it just makes you, it just gives you a seed of kind of like, "Huh, what's going on?" But then you are so strongly brainwashed in Zionism. And it's very difficult to break. So when a point of break was for us, I think we were in Israel and it was some sort of war in Syria against Assad. Yes. And we were in Galilee and some Jews, Steve had some, you know, friends that were kind of heavily involved in government there. And Israeli government. And they have told Steve that the ISIS members are wearing cizete. Do you know what cizete is? It's, it's that, the four tassels on the edge of the garment, right? Yes. So that, that, that Jewish. Yes. So the ISIS militants were, there were Jews that were among the ISIS militants. Yes. And then when we heard that, this is what was like another seed, but that seed took root fully because we went, "Okay, let's look into this. How can ISIS be Jews?" Right? And at the same time, we study, I'm, I started to have a research. I found Vanessa Bealey. And I don't know if you know her, she's on sub two. Okay. And then we asked for interview and we actually talked a lot. Steve got very much friend, we became friends. And we got, we're getting information that, yes, indeed, ISIS members are Jewish. And it was Jewish organized. And ISIS militants were coming to Israel to be treated medically. Right. Yes. So when we realized this, it was, I think that gave that final door that, you know, we just kind of woke up. Something is really wrong. And now we studied research in all areas, including doctrines, everything. And that's how slowly we just came up fully out of Zionism. But I would say at that time, we were still one leg in, one leg out. Not sure. We were confused. But very full kind of comma was about 2017, 2018. It was a full come out of Zionism. And the bombing of Syria, when the children were killed, that they blamed on Bashar al-Assad. That was another one. Because the friend of mine, that he'd invited us over to his home, we lived there in the same neighborhood in North Galilee. And when he told that, what Yonajah said. But then when these children were so many were killed, and they said Assad had just killed his own people with a deadly nerve gas bomb, I'd found Aaron Erdom, who was a parliament member of the Turkish government. And I was listening to one of his speeches before parliament. And showing all the evidence where between the CIA with the Libya, when Libya was overthrown there, they had smuggled the Syrian gas out of Libya. And Erdogan was complicit in bringing that in to Turkey. And it was given to the ISIS militants. And they were captured on the border. And these were these Israelis posing as Arabs that were trying to smuggle this into Syria. And so they had captured them. And then Erdogan demanded their release. That they'd be allowed to go and to take what they had on into Syria. And then it was shortly after that time that they actually blew up this device with Syrian gas and killed all these children. And then even see more harsh reported it. There was one woman journalist that would report it too. But they ended up killing her for bringing it out. Guess quite a lot of journalists do get killed, don't they? What probably by Israeli forces or undercover rule? Well, I'm sure, you know, because they don't want them to speak out. And anything that affects the agenda, the same thing with the Noah Hyde laws. Yana made such a ruckus on the Noah Hyde laws early on that they did not. I felt like personally, they did not want us to push this narrative. No, I can well believe that. Before I just want to explore this ISIS thing, because I knew that ISIS were essentially a creation of US intelligence or the CIA. But I had, I mean, I suppose that the CIA and Mossad and MI6, they're joined and they hit pretty much, aren't they? Yes they are. So, and actually, I think I've seen footage from the October the 7th incursion, whatever one you want to call it, where there is footage of people who are clearly Israelis. They're speaking Hebrew or they're not speaking Arabic. So, it seems like there is there is something going on here where Israeli Israelis try to pretend to be ISIS and pretend to be Hamas in order to help them. Even a video that I had found that I had published where the guy was speaking English that was, that was among the Hamas militants and it was not British, it was American English. So, you know, he said a few words in English and then switched back to Arabic, you know. There was no doubt you don't have a stand down and then all the things that happened even before that, they're removing the weapons from Sederot that they had, they had a storage aired for weapons in the event they were to be overrun. They first removed the Israeli security then they removed their weapons and these people were defenseless. They, the one man that monitored all the, with his computers, the camera systems, they come in two days before, pull all of his computers out. The day after, they returned them all. He was actually on Israeli television, weeping over this. He said if I had had had my computers, I would have been able to stop this, you know. And even Jonathan Pollard, as much, I mean, he just man hates Palestinians, but he said in an interview, he said a friend of mine sitting in the helicopter waiting to get the orders to go could hear the blast going off in the distance but had to stand down for six hours before he was given the clearance to take off. Rabbi Misrahi out of New York, who's an Israeli at Rabbi, who was former IRF Israeli Air Force said that when he said you could, he said a mouse can't touch that fence that we don't have, you know, people on the ground in jeeps within seconds. And he said in, of 16, he said if we were having an attack, he said within three minutes, we're already bombing, you know. In the helicopters, he said this is totally, and he even says it was an inside job. Yes. How many, I mean, some, some Israeli media has sort of covered the story, hasn't they? Harats has written about it. But how many Israelis, which you say, are aware that they were kind of betrayed by their own government and that their own people were murdered, really? You know, I follow Israeli state art, what I call normal, that they have an ability to critical thinking. And one of them is Gideon Levi, who is an Israeli journalist. He does write for Harats a lot. So according to him, according to me, Copel Ed, if you know me, Copel Ed, I don't know if you do, these Israelis are basically a mass brainwashed population by Zionist agenda because they go into schools, public schools in Israel is a mass brainwashed center. That's what I would say is they brainwashed them since very early on. It's a heavy Zionist state. So I would say about 80% of Israelis are heavily brainwashed Zionist against Palestinians, but there is about 20% of them who understand what's going on and about 20%, 80, 20, I would say. Right. And how many of all the people who died that day and sort of in captivity, what percentage would you say were actually killed by, I mean, insofar as we can believe that Hamas has any independence because it was created by Sinbet, wasn't it? Oh, yeah. Hamas is completely created financed by Benjamin Netanyahu and it's, they worked together behind the scenes for a certain outcome. You see, Benjamin Netanyahu he needs Hamas. Can you imagine if he didn't have Hamas? He could never pull it off to take over the prison, presumably. So yeah, exactly. You know how it would be so easy to, if Hamas was true enemy of Netanyahu and Israel, they would get him like this and stop him tomorrow, right yesterday. That's what I want to say. They worked together. This is just what you see, what what talk is about, that's just the story for the public. Yeah. Finish my question. I didn't really percentage. How many? Well, the Hannibal directive. Yes. I would say about two thirds were probably killed by the militants that came in as Hamas and about a third were actually finished off by Israeli under the Hannibal doctrine. In fact, that's where we get the incinerated children. You know, so much of the horrors that happened was because of the tanks using the type shells that they used that just obliterated everyone that was there. And, you know, and what's also as well is there were, there were a lot of actual real Hamas fighters that were involved, but even in their own testimonies, when they were taken captive by Israeli forces, they said, we didn't even know about this operation. Now, that was interesting. How could they not know about an operation? Yet, there was all this planning and preparation for a year. But, you know, the Egyptians had warned, I mean, Israel knew. Israel knew exactly what was going to happen. And yet now in the Knesset, there have been hearings that have kind of been forced into the Knesset where military soldiers are starting to speak out. And they actually have played the recordings where they were told from like 0400 in the morning, 4 o'clock in the morning, you know, not to be going down anywhere near the defense line of Gaza. And they were basically told to stand down early on. So the real Hamas, the actual Palestinian ones, the rank and file, who took part in this. They just were told, come on, lads, we're going across the border now, get your guns ready. I mean, was that how it sort of? According to some of the idea that leaked out on that when they were interrogating them, they were saying those types of statements that they never, they didn't even know they were going they'd found out that morning or that evening that we're going into Israel. And so they were all excited. That's how they got so many to do it to begin with because yes, oh, we're going to make an attack. All right, let's go, you know, but the ones that were doing the real planning and things that were a part of it, I don't think they were really Hamas. So I would imagine that having once been very popular in Israel, your, your new surface is not so popular now. No, it's not, and we're also, I mean, it's obvious we're shadow banned. I mean, we at one time, we would grow 1,000 people a week. And now, the only time we grow at all is when something gets through, something really major. Like when, when this happened and I reported it, we grew 4,000 people. We did again, like we did before 1,000 people a week, but I watched them and I get emails all the time. People will say, you know, I've got the notification bell clicked. I'm subscribed. Next thing I know I'm unsubscribed or I never get one good friend of mine. He says, Steve, I never get your notifications. Never. You know, we're talking about substock in particular. That's YouTube. Oh YouTube. Yeah. Well, the point of is that the people who control these things are going to be supporting, they're going to be sympathetic to Nat and Yohi for one. Yes. I mean, it's the global cabal, whatever you want it, well, the world cabal, whatever you want to call them, and they're all in it together. Yeah. But I think we should talk about the now. Have we exhausted the other stuff? Are we going to move on to the next slide? Yeah, we just go with the flow, whatever you ask. So never hide. First of all, does it come from nowhere? I said, no, it's arc. Is that? No. Well, the rabbis kind of connected to Noah, but that comes from rabbis. It doesn't come from Bible. Right. You know, so noah, I laws are purely rabbinic in invention. And rabbis believe that, you know, when they got at Mount Sinai, Jewish people got their written Torah, they also got set of another laws, which is oral Torah. That's what they say. That's not the reality, right? But that's what they say. They got extra laws that were kind of transitioned by word from generation to generation. And then this oral Torah is reserved in a document called the Talmud, which they call the scripture. That's to them a foremost scripture that has authority even above the Old Testament. Old Testament according to rabbis is only for women and children and the goyim. But the Talmud is the real word of God, okay? So that's how you have to understand where they come from. So noah, high laws come from the Talmud. They are listed as seven laws in the Talmud. It's more specifically in a book of Sanhedrin, 56A or up to 60. It speaks about noah, high laws. And then Rambam, who is their main authority, codified the Jewish law, the word for Jewish law is Halakah. That's what they refer to as Jewish law. So the Noah, high laws were codified and put inside of Halakah by Rambam in the document called the law of kings. And we can find it specifically in chapters 8 to 10 in the law of kings. And because it is codified, they take it as seriously as God said it. So there is no it's no negotiable. When was this, when does this date from the law of kings? Well, it's in 12th, 13th century. Exactly. So this is okay. So maybe you can confirm something. I've been reading a bit about this. It seems to me that if you ask most Christians, particularly the Zionist Christians in America, which there are about 20 million of them, I think, was it more? Was it 200 million? 99. 98%. If you ask them what Jews believe, they'd say, well, they believe in the Torah, the Old Testament, the law. It's Moses and all these, all your favourite characters, Joseph with his dream curtain. And they're great. They're Hebrews and they're the chosen people. But in reality, and I think I think most Jews don't know this either because most Jews are so secular, they don't even know their own religion. It's a kind of medieval invention, but it's sort of devised by medieval clerics. Yes, now this is what you just mentioned is basically the key. When Christians do not understand Judaism at all, they think that Judaism is Christianity minus Jesus. That's what they think. That's why they refer to Judeo-Christian values, which is a complete oxymoron. I write about this on my sub-stug, but it's just something like two magnets at the wrong poles. You try to push them together and they just can't connect. And eventually, they have to kind of follow part to do. You read a Judeo-Christian pick, which one? Because Judeo-Christianity is oxymoron. And why? Well, because when a Christian who is totally uneducated in religions of the world, would they believe how they came about or history at all? They will see a Jewish person with the Kippah, Jewish Rabbi with the Kippah, with a certain garb, and they think, "Oh, that's brother of Jesus." And they are believing in the Old Testament. They just don't have a revelation of Jesus. They have absolutely no idea that that person has nothing to do with ancient Israelites. That's first thing. And that the religion of Judaism has nothing to do with Christianity. In fact, if anything, Judaism is 100% an opposite, an opposed, and an arch enemy of Christianity. So putting them together is kind of really ironic, but it was done for political reasons, for certain things that they're planning, okay? For future. But again, Judaism is a separate religion, and it's mostly in today modern Judaism form, as we see it today. It is a rabbinic Judaism specifically, which is a continuation of Pharisees. And you meet the Pharisees in a New Testament when Jesus is strongly rebuking them, and he is identifying them as enemy, okay? Yes. Okay. So Judaism has developed to the, what is it today, especially 500 years after Jesus was already gone from this earth? This is when they codified oral law into the Talmud. They wrote Talmud down. In other words, they wrote it down officially, codified it, and put it in Talmud in several volumes. This is when they started putting down books like shuhan aruch. That's another set of volumes of Jewish law or halakaf. And and this is the religion that has nothing to do with ancient Israelites or religion of Moses at all. But it has to do, look, the name of Talmud is Babylonian Talmud. This is their main, okay? So just the name tells you where that comes from. It comes from Babylon. When Jews were dispersed in Babylon, they brought with them all these practices. And this is what they promote. So it is kind of esoteric magic because the soul of the Talmud is basically Kabbalah. Talmud, Zohar, Kabbalah is that's what they believe. Yes. And you get, so it's fashionable in Hollywood, Madonna goes to Kabbalah classes. People have Kabbalah bracelets, don't they? They're sort of red. That's, that's, okay, it's kind of part of this whole Kabbalah thing, but it's different than what the Rabbinic Kabbalah is actually about. Is it, is it the kind of form of black magic? It is. Global warming is a massive calm. There was no evidence whatsoever that man-made climate change is a problem that is going to kill us, that we need to amend our lifestyle in order to deal with it. It's a non-existent problem. But how do you explain this stuff to your normal friends? Well, I've just brought out the revised edition, my 2012 classic book, Watermelons, which captures the story of how some really nasty people decided to invent the global warming scare in order to fleece you, to take away your freedoms, to take away your land. It's a shocking story. I wrote it, as I say, in 2011, actually, the first edition came out. And it's a snapshot of a particular era. The era when the people behind the climate change scan got caught red-handed, tinkering with the data, torturing till it screamed, in a scandal that I helped Chris and Climategate. So I give you the background to the skull jugglery that went on in these seats of learning where these supposed experts were informing us, we've got to act now. I rumbled their scan. I then asked the question, okay, if it is a scan, who's doing this? And why? It's a good story. I've kept the original book pretty much as is, but I've written two new chapters, one at the beginning and one at the end, explaining how it's even worse than we thought. I think it still stands out. I think it's a good read, obviously I'm biased but I'd recommend it. You can buy it from jamesdellingpole.co.uk/shop, but you're probably fine. Just go to my website and look for it, jamesdellingpole.co.uk. And I hope it helps keep you informed and gives you the maturity you need to bring around all those people who are still persuaded that it's a disaster, we must amend our ways and appease the gods, appease Mother Goent. There we go, it's a scan. Talmud Zohar Kabbalah is that's what they believe. Yes, and you get, so it's fashionable in Hollywood, Madonna goes to Kabbalah classes. People have Kabbalah bracelets, don't they, they're sort of red. That's okay. It's kind of part of this whole Kabbalah thing, but it's different than what the rabbinic Kabbalah is actually about. Is it kind of form of black magic? It is. It is a black magic. They believe in geometry. They believe that every Hebrew word has its own spirit and power. They believe that they can, like this god Yahweh, okay. They believe that they can move around the letters and create magic. They believe that Kabbalah today is so directly connected into actual physical appearance of the world that they believe that rabbis who deal with Kabbalah, they're keeping this world on. That without the rabbis, this world will disappear. It would not exist. Right. So the people who believe this, which is what? We're talking only a percentage of the world's Jews. The people who believe this think that they are, well, they really are manifestly superior to all the other people on earth. Are there the only ones that count? Yes. And you know, I don't really care that they're very, you're right. They're extremely small in number. The problem is that they are holding the governments of the world. They're in the governments and it has been decided in a very high secret circles that the religion of the new world order will be Judaism, rabbinism, and for the going. It's going to be noahedism, which is basically Judaism for Gentiles. That's all it is. So problem is that they hold the power. It's not how many they are. They hold the power. You see, but it's a lot more of us, and we have the power from Holy Spirit, but we don't use it. Well, do you think that essentially you're familiar with the Old Testament. God is always being disappointed with the children of Israel for building up Asher Repols and putting their children in the fire and adopting the religion and worshipping the kind of Canaanite gods, you know, Bal and Murlock and stuff. These are all basically the fallen angels aren't they? These are manifestations of Satan. Isn't that what's really going on right now? Ultimately, they are Satanists. Even out of their own mouth. Well, Jesus himself said, I mean, because when they claim, they said, God is our father. Abraham, you know, we worship God and Jesus says, you know, if you to worship, if you had to believe Abraham, you'd believe me. And then later he goes on and he says, your father is the devil. I mean, you can't get any planer than that. Well, I, yes, I remember that. I remember that scene. So do you think that the people, these people, these habaaj sort of Talmudic Jews, that they have no connection with the, with the children of Israel? Well, I would say this. I did oppose that because I write on sub-stack. I just started recently, but I'd posted one. It's extremely long though, but it's about Amalek because of Netanyahu said, we must, we must destroy Amalek or however he's closed that up or did exactly right now, but I trace the lineage of going all the way back even with from David when he's supposedly destroyed every, every, uh, Edamite and Hadad was the surviving heir. He goes down into Egypt, rises up to, to, to authority because he's, he marries the Pharaoh's wife's sister, goes into Syria, etc. The whole point is that take it from there all the way into King Herod because he is that descendant there and then when Israel is dispersed, uh, once again because of the Romans of 70 AD, they go up into the, uh, trace that line all the way into the Khazarian empire where they married in amongst there. But even then, it wasn't even, you got to keep in mind, who actually ends it up there? It's literally, uh, some of the descendants of, uh, what we would say, Pharisees and, and, and, and, and, and, excuse me, King Herod's descendants end up into there. They come back down through, go through Europe. So to start with, when they, even when they disperse, Jesus has already showed that they're not truly the descendants of, uh, you know, through, through the lineage of Jacob's children, they're already broken down. They're already, I mean, now, yes, they were marrying them. Like Herod, Herod did marry a, a, a Hasmanian, uh, uh, daughter, you know, so he could have some Jewish bloodline in there. But when they come back down and come back into the modern state, create the modern state of Israel, that's why they hate the Sephardies and the, and the Mizrahi Jews because they are true descendants in the Palestinians. 50% of Palestinians are true genetically, uh, indigentist people of this land. They are, I'll, I'll never forget, I have to tell you James, we, we, my doctor down in Orlando, I, he had a girl, because he had his own little pharmacy there. It is, it is clinic. And I would talk to her from time to time and she was Palestinian. And one day she was so upset about what was being done to the Palestinians. And she just blurted out to me. She said, you know, what really gets me is that we are Jewish. And I said, what? She says, Stephen, my family, they've always known that we were the true, whether she said they called them Jews. She said, we were the Israelites that our family. She said, this has been passed down from generation to generation in my family, that we were, you know, after the Roman occupation and everything, our families were the ones that lived away from Jerusalem, you know, and they kept us as, you know, to cultivate and provide food. And after they all left, we just came up and then the Turkish came in and conquered and, you know, kind of forced people into the Muslim faith and things like that. But she said, our family have been Jews forever. Meaning that they are Judeans. You know, the dwellers of Judea. So other studies, modern genetic studies done in 2030, they, they all prove that most Palestinians have a bloodline of ancient Israel, yes. Yes, where are they? No, they don't. No. In fact, modern studies prove that only 0.3% or 3% something like this. They could connect to ancient Israelites. Most of them come from converts. And one of these nations is Qazaria, but not all, okay, it's Europe, Qazaria, it's North Africa. It's, you know, the kind of mix of races that come only from conversion to rabbinism. So by by religion, their Jewish and maybe their mother was Jewish, grandmother was Jewish, but it was by religion, not by descent of bloodline. Yes, yeah. So and these are the most, well, these are the ones who aren't Israel now. So they're not really ancient Israelites. So yeah. I mean, it's, it's very interesting hearing this stuff from people who, from Jewish backgrounds. Because, because, I mean, it must have come as quite a shock to you to just go, because I bet when you were growing up, it was like, yeah, we're the Jews. And we're kind of, we're the chosen and we're persecuted, but we're kind of cool. Yeah, you do. Yes. And in fact, you know, when I came to Christ in 2010, Steve took me right into scoffield Christianity from there. Okay. So he was like, oh no, this is the true path. And you need to go back to your roots. Yana, you need to discover your grandmother's roots because we come from chosen people and you feel special and I genuinely started to study my roots. I wanted to embrace it, right? But then you find out that, well, it's, you find all of this I will be just talk about, but because my identity is in Christ, that's where the rock, I stand on a rock, I stand on Christ. It doesn't bother me. I identified through Jesus Christ. I don't identify through bloodline at all, but, you know, that's right. I'll say this on that part there, right? Because my mother was Ashkenazi. That's what her family was. My father, though, on the other hand, was his family tree goes back to Northern Africa. And oddly enough, of course, I wasn't raised by my father. I didn't see my father until I was in my 20s for the first time. But his family lineage had been believers. There were, there were a division among them. Some of them were rabbinic coming from Morocco. But for the most part, they were Christian coming all the way down through. But then again, when you study the dispersion of the Christians and stuff from the time when Christ came, one of the apostles went into Northern Africa. And of course, then, you know, you had more of the early Jewish believers were in Northern Africa, so they called them Sephardine. You know, well, the Sephardine was really, that might be more Mizrahi in one way, though, because Sephardine was from Portugal in Spain. But I remember as I traced the family lineage of my father, they came into Spain. And during the acquisition, they fled to France. And then from France to America. So by the time I get over here, it's really watered down by now, but I can see it go back and I can see where some were Christian, some were rabbis, but they didn't come from the Ashkenazi line. As far as on my father's side, they came from only the Sephardic lines. Yes, but you're right. We have this current even my family line. It's definitely by religion, only in conversion, Hungarian, Europeans, you know. So it's not, it's, this is why New Testament Apostle Paul warns you. Don't be concerned about genialities, because in New Testament, you need to find your identity through Jesus Christ. Right. Yes. I mean, Paul was definitely Jewish, wasn't he? Because he was a, he was a Pharisee. He was a Pharisee. So exactly. He was in that group. And also what people don't realize when we speak of Judaism, you know how Christianity has many denominations. When you say the word Christian, you don't know who you're talking to. It might be. Now even Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormons call themselves Christian. So just the word Christian, what are you? Penacastel, Baptists, you know. The same thing. Judaism is the same way. And people don't understand that they are separated into little groups and subgroups. And this belief and that belief. And they separate, they're separated and they sometimes dislike each other. You know. I mean, you, you, you presumably both spent time in America as what, was the period when you were kind of hanging out with your fellow Jews and kind of enjoying being Jewish and kind of telling you to stick with your own people and that kind of thing. I mean, it's, it's the that sense when you're Jewish in America. Yes, when you do. And especially even, even that's true. Even though, even though being Christian, you know, South Florida, you know, the worst of the, of the organizations, which were Habadjus, you know, I knew, I knew, I knew all the rabbis down there, very close friends. From time to time, we would go, you know, occasionally, mainly during the high holidays, we would go to, you know, a rabbinic synagogue. And so, yeah, I'd been around the Habadj organization and reform as well. Early on, I was part of the reform. So the rabbis and North Florida knew me real well, South, all the way to Miami. I knew. Not only knew him, but still was part of Habadj, they made him join it. So he joined it always, they, they, they, you join it the lowest rank. It's very compartmentalized. This is why when you see Habadj people, now all of them are bad and not all of them really understand what's going on in a high rank. So, exactly. Exactly. Exactly. You have to get through a certain level in Habadj to really understand what they're doing. At the very low level, they just, oh, they bombard you with love. It's a love bombing, okay? And they bring you meals and pretend to care for you as a person. I bumped into the circles of the ones that obvious were higher up though, because they would say to me, this, to me, it was strange, right? They would say things like, I remember these two doctors that I knew that were Habad. And I'm sitting in their house. And the older father, he goes, he goes, he first he tells me, says, Stephen, what happened to you? Your good Jewish boy, your mother didn't make you Dr. Lawyer, you know? And I say, well, I own a trucking company. Well, that's not the bad. It leaves you know how to make money. Like, good Jewish boy does, right? So then we get into this discussion about slavery. And, you know, he's telling me, you know, we're going to have, it's not much longer. We have each one of us. We have our own slaves, 2800 slaves for every Jew will have us, all the goi will serve us. And, and I stopped for a moment and I looked at him and I said, are you serious? Yeah, we thought it's a child. You know, right, you know, he's like, Stephen, you don't know, what's wrong with you? If you say these people, are they identifiable physically? Do they have hats and things and the bids? Okay. And, and, and, and Habbad Judaism, normally it's only your, the Levitical class that wear these types of garments there. Yes, the rabbis that I knew all dressed exactly like that in the, you know, the all black garb. But when it comes to the regular parishioners that go there that are not part of the Levitical, what they would call the Levitical class or the Koneem, they dress like everyday people and they are always going to be, you will find, that's where you'll find most of your intellectuals in Jewish circles, they go to Habbad. When you go to a reform synagogue, you don't find that. Yeah, you might find some lawyers and doctors that just want the easy way of life. But the real die hard, serious Jewish people that are the ones that really are controlling the money and finance are in Habbad because they want to control the political system. You won't know some of them by garb because like, let's say, I knew Habbad doctors, especially in South Florida when we lived there, and they would go on purpose dressed as just regular people. They, they never dressed it. They would not even put on Kippah, like this law only in the service. Only at the home or going to synagogue, but they would do it from daily life. They didn't want to be identified as such, you know? So they just want you to believe that they're just, yeah, they're Jewish, they're one of a high ditch, but they're nothing, you know? Well, even because of that issue there and our connections that we had there, I got approached by a very, very good friend of mine that was a Christian, he was a Zionist, and he worked very close with John Hagee on the night to honor Israel. And so he and Laurie could those of more who was a very strong advocate for Israel, they got with me to help because they were having a hard time at the time to getting some of the Southern on the East Coast. They were having a hard time getting these rabbis to commit to be a part of the night to honor Israel. And they knew that I knew them. So they asked me, can you be a liaison, can you kind of work with us? Because we want to get these rabbis and we want them to support what we're doing. And I remember right before that happened, I was up in Northwest Florida and there's a rabbi named Ostrich, he was a reform synagogue rabbi. And we, I was in his office one day and he says to me, he says, Stevie says, you know, look, I know you're a Christian, but you know, I feel comfortable with you because I know you're Jewish and I don't have a problem. You don't criticize the Jewish people. But I have a real problem. And I says, what's the problem? And he says, they're trying to force on us to embrace Christianity, to support some kind of movement. Yeah, it wasn't embrace Christianity. They were trying to put Jews to Habad at the time, it was long time ago, 10 years back, but Habad at the time was creating bridges in every town. The Thai members of Kabad were in charge of creating bridges between Christians and Habad Jews. So that way they have these knights of Anna, Israel, where Jews, Jewish rabbis and Jewish people with the pastors and Christian people meet together and they create friendship. But this friendship was always described as one way. Meaning, Christians cannot preach their doctrines to the Jews. Exactly. But Jews can distribute no-ahide laws and their doctrines to the Christians. And there was an agreement done that this is exactly how things will go. We're going to form a bridge. We're going to embrace Jews. We're going to embrace Israel. We are going to be strong pro-Israel proponents as Christians, but we can't say word Jesus in their presence at all. Yes, this is the name, isn't there, for kind of useful idiots of the. Exactly. That's what happened to God. So that was a bridge made for useful idiots, for Christians. What's the technical term? There's a Jewish term that they use to. I'll think, let me think. Hold on, hold on. I know. But that's an Yahoo, literally. And I've listened to the interview because he told them turn the cameras off, but I understand Hebrews. I'm listening to it. And he sends it plain as day. He says, Christians, he said, they're useful idiots, you know, just like nonchalant ways. Yes, and so, and they call, you know, they need, they need support morally, financially, and quite frankly, I will tell you, if Christians knew their doctrines, if they knew their faith, if they knew apostolic faith, which they don't, they don't understand New Testament at all. And if they knew it, the movement of Habad and what they're creating right now, instead of Israel and what they're planning, it could never happen. They needed Christians to make it happen. What were the Christians who got the numbers? I mean, there aren't that many Jews, are they? Right, exactly. So they needed Christians to be so brainwashed, so swayed away to replace Christ with Israel. And that's exactly what Scoffield doctrine already did. So the first infiltration was early 20th century. Christianity is, what we see today, Scoffield Christianity, dispensational Christianity. That's a new invention. That's a modern invention. It's not, it shouldn't be even called Christianity, because center and prophecy, the spirit of prophecy, is through the lens of the physical state of Israel, not through the lens of Jesus Christ. Yes, I'm fascinated by this, these Habad, so we're talking sort of movie producers, we're talking financiers, we're talking very powerful rich Jews, go to Habad synagogues, and subscribe to this belief system whereby people like me are going, we're cattle, and we are going to be one of their slaves in the future when it all comes good for them. But presumably in normal life, they'd be charming as charm could be to me, if I hang out with them, they'd be, yeah, James, we're all brothers under the scanner. Yes, they would be very kind, very love bombing you, although they will give you immediate hints of where the red line is. But what's the red line? I can't mention Jesus. You cannot speak about Jesus, you cannot. Let me clarify a little bit on that though, even I think under Noah Hydism, what they're wanting to do, in order to push Christians under to the Noah Hyde side, Christians are going to have to learn to accept that Jesus was just a good old Jewish boy. Well, he kind of got off and everything, but we're going to re-teach you who he really is. I actually part of a group, I don't know how I ended up in this group, I guess they found me, but it's a Jewish organization. They constantly send me documents of where they're writing book after book after book about what Jesus really meant by this or what Jesus really meant by that, you know, taking his sayings. And I can see, just like in the case of Tovia Singer, I know Tovia kind of indirectly. We've communicated through text before, you know, privately because some guy wanted us to debate years ago and he didn't want to debate because I have too far out ideas. But anyway, Tovia though is just totally destroying Christian faith with Christians that are gullible enough to believe his lies. And it's mainly because we've been taught under the scope of Zionist doctrine. And because of that, Christians don't know how to truly defend the faith of Jesus Christ. And if you know the gospel correctly, then Tovia has no ground to stand on. And he knows it. And so I even want to say Tovia Singer. I think that the Tovia is important that people know their name, Tovia Singer, because he seems to be a very popular figure who is specifically focused on Christians and dismantling Christianity and enormous number of Christians and pastors. After listening to him, they get out of Christianity because he persuaded them that Christianity is a complete myth. And then these people then are funneled into no-hide academy in Israel. And when you look at no-hide academy in Israel, they're creating now, they're educating by Master's degree on no-hide judges and no-hide teachers. And those are people who sign up to be no-hide judges from all over the world. So this is a center and that's a new thing and people don't think about it. There's something big, but be very careful in a state of Israel. In Jerusalem is a no-hide academy that trains no-hide judges to be disseminated and distributed all over the world. And they claim that they are preparing them for the world to come for the new order that's about to happen as soon as the temple is built. Because the future for the nations is either are you going to accept no-hide laws upon yourself? And if not, you will be destroyed. Yeah, you get your head chopped off, don't you? Absolutely. This is one of the punishments when you violate any of the no-hide laws. Capital punishments. It's a capital punishment for Gentiles and the certain form of execution is only one and it's beheading. Yes. What sort of things can get you beheaded under the no-hide law? Okay. Well, at this point we need to speak about no-hide laws what they are and it's not just seven. I published on my sub-stack an article and it has a title. Seven is the hook, but the 90 is the sinker, meaning the seven no-hide laws have sub-laws. And that's what the sinker is. That's what sinks you down because when you realize, when you read no-hide laws, even as a Christian, you're going to think, what's wrong with that? They believe in all of this. It's just like very similar to those 10 commandments, right? So let's name them right now. Okay, I have them here, so I don't mess up. But number one is do not worship idols. Christians agree. Okay. Do not curse God, meaning blasphemy. I mean, we agree. Do not commit murder. Absolutely not. We don't agree with murder. Do not commit adultery and sexual immorality. We agree. Do not steal. We agree Christians shouldn't steal. Do not eat flesh torn from a living animal. That one is that's a number six law and that's one is kind of like strange to everybody like who would take a leg of a chicken but still keep chicken alive. Well, the mass I do that. Okay, so maybe it's not chicken. You know the mass I tribe in Africa, they keep cows and they drink their blood and they keep their cows alive, but they just drink the drink the blood which they mix with milk. So they'd be for the chop, wouldn't they under the under. Yes. So that's the law, but then of course that law has sub laws. Hold on. I'm going to talk about sub laws because when you when you look at the law, it sounds normal. I mean, yeah, we don't want to, you know, hear animals. So a number seven is positive command, establish courts of justice to enforce the previous six laws. So according to the law, the law, the courts have to be in every village, every town in every district. Okay, so we don't see anything wrong with that. Although there is no seven laws listed in the Christian Bible anywhere. We have the 10 commandments, but not the seven law hide laws. So just know that it's from the Talmud, the rabbinic. But now the problem comes with two things. Who has the power of interpretation? Who will interpret? When you have a legal system, you need someone in authority to interpret it to you. So who has the power of interpretation? It's the rabbis. Today, rabbis. So that's the problem number one. What do they say idolatry is? What do they say murder is? What do they say? Don't eat flesh from living animal. What do you mean? Explain. And that's where they come. They have sublaws for every law. Okay, and now the sublaws, when you read them, that's the problem. That's the, that's the sinker. This is when you understand you got hooked to something really bad. Okay, you agree to something bad. So I will first say that the punishment for violation of any of Noah's idols is death. To a Gentile. Death by one judge, one witness, and circumstantial evidence is enough. Okay, so you don't have legal protections. Forget the constitutional rights. Right. The punishment is swift, meaning it's you don't sit in jail for a year and have a lawyer and you're going to appeal and nothing like this. It's swift. Okay. So let's talk about sublaws. And I will give example for every law. Just there are many, many sublaws. We will be here 10 hours talking about them. So let me just pick some of the main. Okay, so that way you understand the weight of it. Do not worship idols. When rabbis explain what is idolatry, they say that if you worship a man or sing to a man that you think is God or of course Catholics are totally out with their statutes that's completely prohibited. But worship of a man as God is definitely idolatry worthy of decapitation. Rabbis explain that Jesus is a man in Talmud. They talk about him. They talk about him in being in hell, being boiled in human feces. They talk about Jesus's mother Mary as a whore. So they think that yeah, he was Jewish, but he, you know, he is a bad Jew. He caused a lot of problems. He went against authorities and so on. So he's punished in hell. So to worship him as God is idolatry. So that's where Christianity clashes immediately. We can't worship Jesus. And now in Noahide Academy, the ones who are becoming Noahides are mostly 90% of people becoming Noahides today are ex-Christians, ex-Evangelicals. That is extraordinary. Yes. And they're actually many things. That's amazing. Yes. So they have to sign a document and they have to make an oath, open oath to three rabbis that they are becoming Noahides. On their document, the ones that are signing, it says in there that you cannot worship Jesus. And if you in any way still do, you cannot do your oath. You won't be allowed. I thought Christianity was a one way thing. I didn't realize that people sort of particularly evangelicals who tend to be of the kind of more, you know, filled with the spirit and all that. Well, a first, you know what it does. It happens to people in stages because at first, we have scoffield Christianity. That's what we are. Everybody here in America is brought up with, right? Any church you go to. It was Scofield Bible, which was from the 1860s, wasn't it? It was on the 1870s. Well, it was first published 1909. Oh, so quite later. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, there was movement and talk about it in late 19th century. It's because it ended up in the university, Darby. Right. Darby and scoffield. Yeah. But the university's and theological seminaries in the United States adopted scoffield Bible as the main text for the future pastors that they're creating in those seminaries. That was a good play by the the powers of dawn. This wasn't it? I mean, they did. Yes. They infield really Christianity from within with a tactic. How smart. You know, Darby is really smart, you know, just like Catholicism. So yeah, that's another whole another, you know, but exactly. So what happened? It happens in stages. And in scoffield Bible, when you read what scoffield really did, it's not that he published commentary. That's not what he did. He put his commentary within the Bible inside of it. So you have a Bible biblical text and underneath you have scoffield notes to explain the biblical text. So when when Christians were reading Bible, they didn't realize that they're already being brainwashed by one idea of scoffield, just how we can interpret this and how we can interpret that and what does Israel mean in New Testament and what is all, you know, so this theology became so engraved in Christianity that it now equals Christianity. So what happened? Scoffield took and refocused the center of the scripture to Israel, to physical Israel. He pushed Christ aside and he brought Israel in. Do you think he knew that he was working for the Talmudists? You know, when I read his biography, first of all, I wasn't impressed with the man. Okay, man scoffield, I'm not impressed. He had very questionable character and people can read about this, you know, but I'm not here to judge him or whatever, whether he got better or later or didn't. I don't know, but I'm not impressed with him as a man. But when he comes to his theology, they say that he was in a high circle of Attenmeyer and Zionist Jews. They belonged to a certain club, you know, men's club where they were discussing things and future and they kind of told him to publish the Bible because he was gaining popularity and then this is when all these conferences were coming and they were going to conferences, Dallas and, you know, big cities in United States and he was traveling and thousands upon thousands of Christians were flooding into these conferences and that's where it was disseminated, this new idea of what Israel means, you know, and if you talk against Israel, it's anti-Semitism, that word is inside scoffield Bible. Is it? Yes, it is, especially. It was republished several times even after his death. It was republished by Oxford Press, which. Oxford University Press. Yes, and so they put that word anti-Semitism in there and I said that, you know, you will have no salvation if you are anti-Semite. And also, you know how Bible says that Spirit of the prophecy is Jesus Christ. Testimony of Jesus is the Spirit of prophecy and scoffieldery did this testimony of physical Israel is the Spirit of prophecy. He re-centered Bible and a New Testament on physical Israel. Right. Okay, so I hadn't realized the extent to which Christianity in America has been subordered by this doctrine. So you say most Christians in America? 98%. Because they control all the the Bible. Because the nominations, you know, they have pastors and they have been educated in seminaries and theological seminaries. And when you go through curriculum in those seminaries, it's all scoffieldism and dispensationalism is adapted as an official Christianity. Right. Okay. And so these evangelicals are susceptible to this. Well, I mean, I'm still amazed that these people are coming, renouncing Christianity and becoming Noah Hyde judges. That is really scary. Oh, this is very scary because it's been actually financed heavily by even state of Israel. The Benjamin Netanyahu welcomes Noah Hyde's in Israel. So if you think about it, James, APAC controls the political arm of the United States. Practically every single politician with the exception of maybe two or three are funded by the APAC lobby, the Israeli lobby that helps control our politicians. So they won't dare speak against Israel, not one of them. If they're confronted, they always stand for Israel. Now, if you have control of your politics, but then early on, you took control of all the seminaries that produce ministers. Now, there are independent ministers, but there's very few independent ministers. But even a lot of the independent ministers have been formed through that scoffield theology because they pumped out all these ministers, all these churches want to have doctorate level ministers running their churches. So practically every denomination has been groomed and formed under that type of theology. So therefore, there's no thinking for yourself. And the few that do wake up and begin to say, wait a minute, something is wrong, we're so few in number that now your entire government is pro-Israel. Your entire church is and all the congregation is pro-Israel. And I mean, when I wrote my first book, Israel, they still know God's people. I use scoffields notes. And I, I mean, I prove the state of Israel and their right, and what they could do is no wrong so well. But here's the, here's the little trick that they get though, right? They had to convince the Christians, though, that also that 10 tribes are lost. And they're going to come to Christ, too, because they're going to come back. We're going to, we're going to, you know, right now it's only Judas in the modern state of Israel, but we got all these other 10 tribes yet. They're going to come back. And that's where they got them also in that doctrine, believing that there's 10 more tribes coming. And I think a lot of Christians are kind of like, hopeful, hey, we might be that part of that 10 tribes. Maybe that's one reason why they're so easily can, can let down their guard and become a Noah, because they feel like they're coming back into Israel again. But the thing is, it's all fulfilled. And they also have a wrongly explained biblical verses. And it's amazing to me. And you know, I was in a same brainwashed religion, Christianity myself. So I understand you can be very blind. And brainwashed, that state of mind is real. And like, for example, Genesis 12, three, even politicians, when you ask them, why do you support Israel? They will tell you, because God said, bless Israel, and you will be blessed, and curse Israel, and you will be cursed. But if you put on thinking cap, and you go to scripture, Bible doesn't say that it's not there. God said to Abraham, singular to you, I say to you, Abraham, that whoever curses you will be cursed, and whoever blesses you will be blessed. And then later when he repeats this blessing, it comes with with the blessing of the seed, which is singular, which is Christ. So the verse is supposed to be applied to a seed, Jesus Christ, not to physical state of Israel. Do you see how they misunderstand and completely butcher the scripture? And then they just like parrots, you know, you can. I was just watching parrots with my daughter on YouTube. And you can teach parrots all kinds of words and it will say it. And I think that's what Christians are. They were learning slogans. Bless Israel will be blessed, curses Israel will be cursed, because we bless Israel, yeah, you know, and wave the flag. If you think you've got, if you think you're filled with the spirit of Jesus, as most Christians do, it's very hard to sort of rational thought or intelligent thought to penetrate that kind of mindset. Yes, so you're saved and you must be speaking God's truth. Yes, they're told in scofial Christianity that God has two plans of salvation, not one, two. They're saying that God deals with the church separately from Israel. Okay, so it's two plans of salvation. And God now is in a dispensation of grace. So we are church who have grace, but God will stop this with the rapture. He will rapture of the saints and now his attention is only on Israel and he's going to fulfill and give Israel what he didn't give them. He promised it and he didn't do it. So he owes them. And that's what they are taught. But if you put a thinking cap on and you read the New Testament, you know that God doesn't have two plans of salvation. There is only one. Yeah, and there's no rapture either. That's just made up nonsense. No, there is no rapture in that sense that like whatever they are saying, secret rapture and all this. This is absolutely created doctrine in late 1900s by Derby and Scofield and never was in any doctrine of official Christianity for 1900 years. Christians never heard about it. So it's a new invention. Tell me it's all right. I'm sort of jumping around here, but how bad. When was it founded? Okay. Habad was founded in a 17th century, I think, some very old, okay, but it was in Russia. And you know, when you did you hear? Like Zarian's. Yeah, Lubavitch, you know, Lubavitch. Yes. Lubavitch. Why would they call them Lubavitch? Lubavitch is the name of a village in Belarus. Okay, so because that's what it was born. And it came out of ideology of bell shantoff. Then that's the name of Jews who who created chasidism, a specific denomination for Jews called chasidism. Now that kind of grew, but even official rabbis at that time kind of rejected it. They didn't want anything to do with it. They knew that some sort of a cult is forming here. But then it started with the rabbi from Liyadi, which also is in Russia. And he wrote the book called the Tanya. Tanya. And that's very important to remember. That became an official scripture for Habad. So on top of Talmud, Zohar, and Kabbalah, they have another mystical book called the Tanya. How do you spell that? T-A-N-Y-A. Okay, Tanya. Tanya. Yeah, it's them all. But you know, they, that's their, that's their main text which they go by. And it is a cult. And it's literally a family cult. And I call Habad a Jewish Russian mafia that took hold of the world. I call this head of a snake. Okay, that's basic language. I used to live in, I had a girlfriend who used to live in a part of London called Stamford Hill, which was full of of these Lubovitch sects Jews with their huge hats. The wives had to shave their hair and wear wigs. You can see them with their wigs. And they wore these sort of synthetic fabrics sort of like blue, I think. I mean, they're very identifiable. The men you occasionally saw consorting with prostitutes, which you kind of thought, that's not very, very religious. The men tend to get a lot more leeway than the women. They very much kept themselves themselves. But you'd look at these people and you'd think, well, you're not going to do anyone any harm because there were so few of you and you, and you keep yourself to yourselves, you're so separate. And that's my point. Why am I so focused on it? A lot of people tell me that they say, it's just one little sect of Jews. Well, I know that they are a little sect of Jews. However, you don't understand, they got to hold in a government of the world, not just United States. It's all over the world. They're in every government of the world. And somehow politicians are persuaded that this is the Jewishness, they define what Jewishness is. How about the defines Jewishness? Okay. So, and you know, in Trump, Trump's sonny law is how bad. Isn't Trump secretly Jewish as well? Yes, supposedly he converted officially to Judaism. And I used to have on my show, Dr. Day, Lorraine Day. She died, unfortunately, two years ago, but she was a wife of a congressman, Denemeyer. And congressman Denemeyer wrote an open letter to American people. And he officially warned Americans that government now can be had Christians legally. And he, yes, when they signed public law, one, two, one, four into public law system in United States, where in a small print, it says that no high laws are based for United States. Right. So he was this guy whose wife died? He was a congressman who served several years. Then Denemeyer? Yes. Was he, is he Jewish? No. He was a congressman who served as a congressman, and while he was in office, they signed no high laws into a law in America. Was this by HW Bush? Who was the one who signed it? Yes. Yes. He finally does a law. Right. It wasn't just a proclamation for him. It became a law. And that's when Denemeyer wrote a warning open letter to American people. I'm warning you what they have done. And they have done it in a very deceptive way. They sent people home and only three or four people congressmen stayed behind and signed it without the knowledge of the rest. Right. So it's a bit like the creation of the Federal Reserve, where I think it was quite similar. So, and then presumably it didn't get reported on because, well, the media was controlled by the Israel as well. It's not reported. I mean, it's out there now. Everybody can see that it's happening if you look into it, but they're waiting for the right time. They're preparing infrastructure for the new world order. And yes. Why is I mean, apart from you? Why is nobody talking about this? Why is it? You know, it's not just me. There's people who are picking it up now very seriously. Just the reason I got very alarmed about this is because originally I come from communist country. I came to United States out of communist Czechoslovakia. So I valued freedom so much and constitution is everything for me because of fear of what my generation went through in my country. There are no longer communists in there. And I never was a communist and I suffered because I wasn't. So I know what it means to be ostracized by society you live in. Okay. Because we were persecuted because we were not communists. But so I came here for freedom and never in a million world would I believe that I will find in official American documents support for a specific religion. Okay. Or specific ideology that can take hold of of this world or this country. But then I found that that no-hide laws are embedded in a public law and they're coming in through the education system. And that's what the Lubovic, the Menachem Mendel Schnirson, the rebe, the seventh and last rebe of that organization promoted that you will have to come to United States through education. And when I saw it, it's on the education day USA. I panicked because I see it as preparation for something that this one day we can wake up after major major catastrophe or tragedy or something they're going to create on this planet. Okay. When constitution is completely nonexistent anymore. Let's say financial collapse happens all over the world and world is in a panic. They're going to have to rebuild this world from scratch. And they have prepared infrastructure for the new world. They prepared it already and part of that infrastructure is that they are preparing American legal system to to be based on the no-hide laws. So I'm telling Americans one day you're going to wake up all your children will wake up and you will find yourself on the no-hide law system and you will not know where it came from. But yet they have been preparing it in a background for many many years. Didn't you say that the US Constitution or the Founding Fathers were believed in that one? Founding Fathers never said it was added by Kabad by it started with Carter. Okay. Okay. So Carter was I think that the bushy is a probably crypto-juice on this. You know there is a lot of saying about this that they are. I mean I am not expert in knowing what they're hiding as far as whether they're Jews or not or crypto-Jews but they certainly cooperate with that ideology. I mean I've spent like you I mean I was I was a normie once and I then I woke up. But yeah in the five or so years I've been looking into this stuff quite quite extensively. The sort of vague conclusion I raised I mean obviously there are lots of sort of Jewish baddies but it seems to me ultimately sataness you know it doesn't matter whether they call themselves Jews or not. Ultimately the people there's a kind of power structure at the higher levels. Yes. And the five laws are clearly satanic. Absolutely and even some Jews themselves will tell you that they worship Lucifer that that's their God is Lucifer it's just whatever they're saying on the outside that's not what going on in the on the inside. Now I wish I had all of my books in front of me I can't remember I read so many books that now I can't remember there is a book of one Rabbi who openly in that book I think it's demons and angels or angels and demons by Rabbi if we're gonna say Doc. Okay in that book if you read this book you will be so shocked because you have a Jew Jewish Rabbi telling you as it is what they really and truly believe like for example they believe that the angels in the Old Testament are all reptilian. It sounds like a book worth getting. It sounds like science fiction but yes you write it as an exposé or did you write it in sincerity is it? No he wrote it in sincerity like this is our faith and I'm not ashamed of it. He's been on the history channel quite a man and the name is Ariel Ariel say doc. He's got a teaching channel on YouTube he lives actually in East Tennessee is where he lives that and there's there's several rabbis that actually teach that though or teach some load of hell. Can I ask you about the ones with the tunnels in New York who were they? How bad so these there were children being trafficked weren't they or children being sexually abused? A Kabad organization okay they are not okay this is not a religion it's only dressed as a religion they're stealing identity even of all the Jews that they're going to be defining what Jewish really means and they are already defining it they're the ones who define what antisemitism is. It's a one specific organization is Kabad okay nothing Yahoo is part of them in fact nothing Yahoo met Menachem Mendel Schneerson when he was still alive and he was named as the person who he supposed to give the keys to their Messiah he has to hand the keys to the Messiah that's why you see Netanyahu for a long time being there he wasn't there for a couple of years and then he came back he was reelected again right so they have him as someone who has to give key to the Messiah because of course the Messiah hasn't come yet according to this particular yeah according to Judaism but they want a specific habadic Messiah which is it it is okay this is not prophecy we are watching artificial reenactment that might that they want to look like a prophecy so you believe it this is one Jewish Hasidic cult more specifically Jewish Mafia who is not really they they pose as a religion but it's an ideology really it's an ideology and they are criminal Mafia because they are doing not only organ trafficking sex trafficking pedophilia I mean every on the clean thing you can think of yes it was Epstein how bad do you think well we know that his girlfriend there she was Mossad our work with Mossad from what we can gather on some information has come out I've not done a lot of following on him but I know that every Epstein there are reports coming out more and more that they believe that he was controlled by Israel by Mossad was set up made wealthy in order to be able to lure and trap wealthy politicians and and to get them you know compromised I mean that's really what they want they either compromise them with money or with sex or with in black and where they can blackmail them this is why Trump is not going to you know he doesn't want those Epstein files really released he might say he does but as long as they're redacted because he's so much involved in it how embedded with the with Israel is about the state of the molten state let me explain to something like we mentioned the singer who will openly say he's not a Habbat he will say that okay the one who is now in charge of taking people out of Christianity and handing them to law hide academy in Israel then you look at law hide academy in Jerusalem he on the wall is Menachem Mendel Schnirsen they're Habbat okay so Habbat is now forefront for everything Jewish they have completely taken over entire identity we call Jewish they define antisemitism they are in politics of the world they are very well funded it's almost like power is being given to this call right yeah it's really strange but to me this is not a prophecy this is artificial enactment it's quite clever though isn't it because I've seen videos of Schnirsen Schnirsen yeah and you think well this is just some random bloke popping up on on the internet and you see these videos yeah but look at him he's not he's just crazy just like no he's not going to bet you never imagine that such people could could hold sway in the corridors of power exactly and that's who and they do that's the okay I tell people this I would debate Jehovah's Witnesses now that you know I came out of there so I know by their cult their cult I can debate dispensational Christians I can debate them on doctrinal issues but I don't see them as a threat I don't see watched out as a threat as a world threat I will debate their theology but I support their freedom of religion why because I want mine yeah I want to practice my faith so I give room okay you can practice your faith I will debate you in friendly terms and then bye bye you don't affect me well that's not whether how bad this is where the problem comes in how bad is already affecting my life it's affecting my children's life it's threatening the future of my children and that's what the problem is this is why we not only have to debate them we have to head on confront them and stop it yeah and expose it yeah because they crossed the red line because now if in the public law of United States it says that United States was built on Noah Hyde Law I mean I have a problem with that is it yes that was the phrase I heard you used and I and I misunderstood it but so what do you mean it was built that the United States was built it says that foundation of this nation is on Noah Hyde Law well who said that it's in it proclaims it that's not true residence proclaimed it then put it in is it's the ADL connected to they're heavily connected ADL it's how about fully okay okay so they own all the they own all of Congress yeah and on interpretations of what is Judaism what is anti-Semitism right I mean how have Jews received your message has it been popular well no I'm very not popular we are not and so are others are not there is so many others now waking up there I'm so happy because seven years ago when I first brought this subject out we were so ostracized how bad and we lost about 75% of followers which we expected because we had purely Zionist following so you should see how we just went boom down you know and we expected it and we accepted it because we don't want to be in falsehood but Jews well I have a friend who is Jewish her name is Elizabeth Glass and Elizabeth Glass is Jewish she was brought up in a reformed synagogue but she's with me she's with me she says I don't want her bad I don't want them to speak like this about Gentiles that's not what I believe so there is secular Jews percentage of them that they don't want anything to do with this yeah well I've got loads of Jewish friends and I imagine I can't imagine any of them being pro her bad I mean I just I think most Jews just don't don't even don't even think of it as a religion they they've never inquired about what it might mean most Jews even those who are on a lower lower ranks of Haba they're just like part of a club it's just like you know when you when you go to church you're part of a club too like let's say if I go to Baptist church I have fun I have you know I worship Jesus we sing with you know and I'm not even thinking about scoffield and I'm not saying I'm part of Baptist church I'm giving an example but so this is how it is with these Jews they go and it's fun it's we doing Hanukah our children meet we are having fun as a club they we don't think of future domination or Noah Hyde laws of pangentals they have no idea what these upper ranks are preparing yeah so Steve you you mentioned Catholics what how was the Catholic church infiltrated well early on years ago and there've been rabbis it would convert to Catholicism and then they made it up to become pontives yes you know so you know the thing is is different ways and of course the Nostra Tate agreement between the Catholic Church originally bringing I think it was Tony Palmer was a liaison with Pope Francis where he they were friends in the past so he got together with him and then they brought a Kenneth Copeland who was the big charismatic Zionist and they began to form the alliance where they also wrote the Nostra Tate had been written in 1960s yeah before where they were already trying to bring the churches together they want to bring all the Protestant churches back to Rome but at the same time they also Pope Francis had changed the doctrine of the church and no longer was against Israel and holding Israel account or the Jewish people account for the for the death of Jesus Christ right so they were they were building that bridge together and Tony Palmer ended up mysteriously dying in a motorcycle accident which always kind of question that I felt like maybe he started waking up to what this agenda was Kenneth Copeland on the other hand really embraced this was you know Gungho frontline leader leading this revolution there and but at the same time what people didn't know is something on it discovered was Pope Francis before he became pontive was already training priest from South America sending them to Israel to train under the Noah Hyde schools no yes yes I mean I knew that Pope Francis was dodgy as but yeah well I mean that's the other thing I I thought you were going to have mentions Steve that the Jesuits I think were themselves well most of the world crypto Jews I didn't know about Ignatius so well that's what a Jesuit is that's the whole point is that a Jesuit is supposed to have a Jewish lineage and that's why they're called Jesuits and some argue that he was the first black Pope to actually become a pontive I mean he's very charismatic originally Jesuits were not Jewish organization but they were very very originally Jesuits were not accepting anybody from Jewish blood I mean I have read I have read a document that you know explain that how very early on and I'm talking about past history minimal history but actually Jews entered Jesuits and re just like they do with Christianity they they change everything from within they become somebody they they change their identity to become it so they can change things from within like a lot of Jews have become priests Catholic priests and do you know what notary atata is even no okay this is very important in in in what we are just describing Catholic church in its original doctrines was very the attribute called today antisemitic okay that's what they were originally Catholic church did not accept they held Jews accountable for crucifying Christ okay yes which also Catholic church did inquisitions right and they were doing pogroms and all kinds of stuff like this was happened that was a Catholic church in Jews were not friends all of this has changed in 1960s when they came up with nostery atata the document that directly confronted those beliefs and officially changed Catholic church for pro Jewish so now officially in its official doctrine Catholics and Jews cooperates together Catholics formally apologized to Jewish people for past mistakes they said the Jewish people and now they changed the Jews are the chosen they didn't yes they did they didn't oh the Catholics I hope Catholic listeners are pricking up their ears at this point I know you have listeners and as a individual Catholics don't even know the nostery atata exists I was just on I've got a Catholic friend who cut me off he's he's excommunicated me he's never going to talk to me again because I doubted I for doubting the the the story about those killings at bomb dye beach I'm thinking well I'm on a second they may have died they may not have done it may have been a suck but of all the all the reasons you would pick to choose to end a friendship that one what why are you so invested in in in in Jews what what culturally makes you think that they they're such a powerful force that you should you should end a friendship over it it's bizarre how how indoctrinated everyone's become by by this this culture that that's so true yeah but nostery atata officially changed Catholic doctrine when it comes to Jews that's a special stamp sign an official doctrine of Catholic church now that the Jews are the chosen people of God and the and Christians officially and I mean Christians have been Catholic represent Christianity officially and why because in 19 when was it when Tony Palmer was a Catholic who led the list and it was a world council of churches yeah but for Presbyterian yeah okay it was a world council of churches I don't know if you know about that organization that brought all of the Protestants back to the mother church Catholic church so all Protestants are now under officially under Catholic church leadership so nostery atata official document of what we call Christianity today is that the Jews are the chosen people of God that they have to be regarded back to Israel back to their land that land was given to them that they have to have their temple that Christians have to kind of look at them as brothers but as somebody who is chosen like they're above us this is better now yes and that document is officially signed this is a very look it up look at what nostery is this by the Pope that introduced the auditorium with the serpent's head yes I mean not only by this pope it's only 1960s but I mean this is just given official doctrine now of the church have have the orthodox surrendered to this as well have the orthodox church surrendered to this nonsense as well yes that's that's why by the way Tony was a piscopalian as a piscopulian yeah he that was the reason for bringing in Kenneth Copeland and getting the evangelicals on board with this this was that they had to form they did a major alliance and Tony ended up taking Kenneth in a whole bunch of other ministers to the Vatican where they met Pope Francis and they did an agreement together bringing the churches back and and that was what Tony was saying and and he was actually standing in Kenneth Copeland's church he said the one thing that had divided the church and the Protestant movement was this this this proclamation of faith I forget the exact wording that it was that he used there but he said the Catholic church was consenting on that issue now he said so there's no more division between us and he he cited back Martin Luther's thesis that was was nailed to the to the church at the time and so he says the Pope has now broken there we're no longer doing enough forget the exact we said we are all Catholics now there is no right yes that's what yes but you know I know that I know that the as individuals don't think so but I'm talking about what's official on papers okay so that's what we have to look at what they are preparing what infrastructure they have prepared and now the Catholic Church also officially send out representatives bishops to Jerusalem who met with main rabbis of Jerusalem and they signed a document for Noah Hyde laws Catholic Church has promised to the Jews that they're going to educate their flocks in Noah Hyde laws yeah yes there is an official document so did the United Nations and didn't our Jewish friend Elizabeth wasn't she actually at one of the radicals there were they were teaching it is what's happening and people don't know it's just so happening in the background Elizabeth glass that I mentioned she's quite you know famous because she was a grassroots politician yeah gastric politician she well she she ran for Congress from New York yes and she's a major activist okay so she has her own website and everything so she's Jewish and she called me like a few months back and she says guess what I'm going on my wear Catholic Church I said what and she says yes because they have classes on Noah Hyde laws for the Catholics so she went to sit in that class just from curiosity yeah yeah so she says she came to class and they were teaching Catholics about Noah Hyde laws and she says she raised her hand then they came about adultery law and she said so is adultery punishable by capital punishment beheading and they said yes and she's she asked is it only women that will be killed or man too and basically they said it's only women well that's alright then few right there we go that's why when Jesus when he was dealing with these uh rabbi's Pharisees have brought out this one woman because of the adultery they never brought the man with her yeah but yeah Moses commanded both well it's more complicated than that you know it depends who you do adultery with if you are a gentle man and you do adultery with Jewish woman you will be killed yeah then no then they won't yeah because it's a two-tier system so yeah of course it is I it just I am gobsman then these people can be I mean actually having said that I know what liberal Catholics like right liberal anything I mean they're just they're just yeah they'll go along to with with the current thing weren't they and that well I think that's the hope I think that a lot of these leaders in the uh Jewish about organization they know where to pick a weak link and then they begin slowly but surely working their way forward it's just one one thing to clear up you say the orthodox church as well has fallen for this nonsense as far as we know they have united on a paper that is remember individual people members of the churches they don't even know this is going on so they will fight over their doctrines and they don't even know that unofficial paper they're all one you know to the powers yeah you're just a Christian and the boy and as the future system comes in you will be treated as such they won't care how you argue Baptist or Pentecostals or how you argue Catholics you know they look at us as one they're the Christian world they call West the Amalek and Edom who has to be destroyed unless they will become Noah Hives I was going to say the irony of course is that the Caesareans are actually Edomites yes they came from Edom they're the very thing that they came to be fighting against yes well they have changed they are they invert things whatever their guilty are they put on you so they were they in it's called inversion and that creates basic confusion yeah well Yana and Steve I have so enjoyed this conversation you have you the scales have fallen from my eyes I think loads of people are going to be going wow wow there's so much to take in so thank you very much for doing what you've done and yeah I mean more power to your elbow I'm sure I'm sure that God chose to save you Steve for this to help you on this mission he didn't want you in pieces on that on that sidewalk true true and he wanted to pair me with a wonderful lady that that's really been a blessing for me as well and you know it is you know when you talk about the kind of ghetto in Hebrew which is where it says about Eve she would be against him it literally is an it's a word that means it's kind of like to it's to bring each other into a balance is what it is well he's talking about Adam and Eve you know he's talking how people describe oh yeah because you have a woman is a helper but the actual bird is going to get all which is not going to give those what it actually says it's a helper that they're used though they actually say corresponding I think it's the way they use it in English but it's actually it's kind of like the it's like describing a wife that'd be like what are you doing hey get over here buddy and you're like okay honey and it's so it's like it helps to work the two together you've got to remember your place day you know because I've just been reading Corinthians and Paul Paul is he tells us that man is man is from God and woman is from from man I got them the exact passive you know listen listen I believe in a marriage that can man do whatever he wants no he he I mean he still has to answer to his wife I'm going there I believe right so it's not like I believe it's that they're equal they're together they're copilot one is a pilot the other one is copilot they answer to each other it's not like one is it's just one way but this is whole another subject of equality in marriage but and biblical equality and how it all should work and should be it's not about woman being a quiet you know woman can certainly bring bring her voice and you know to to to right we know that we know that we're we're we're we're all we're on the same page here enjoy glad that you you you you're a great double act and I've really enjoyed talking to you both thank you thank you where can people find your stuff and read more about this okay well we we are basically everywhere we are we are on youtube israeli news live our that page is israeli news live that org we both have substags I have substags with my maiden name because my name is yana suttoba dash benoun so yana suttoba suti oova at substag.com Steven benoun at substag.com we are also on rambo as in israeli news live we are on adc israeli news live so these are basically and we are on twitter x great um well thank you and and everyone else if you've enjoyed this podcast as of course you have do please keep supporting me I'm subscribing and all the other things are liking and support my sponsors and buy me a coffee and I mean 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