The 300th episode of *Smartland* celebrates six years of hosting, marking a milestone with heartfelt thanks to listeners, guests, and the production team. A major highlight is the announcement of a live SmartList performance at the Hollywood Bowl on October 17th, with early ticket access for listeners using a unique code. Stephen Colbert is the featured guest, bringing humor, personal stories, and deep passions—such as his love for *The Lord of the Rings* and his childhood Star Wars experience—adding warmth and nostalgia to the conversation. The hosts reflect on their own careers, including early work in New York and time on sketch comedy shows like *The Dana Carvey Show*. The episode emphasizes the value of authentic, unstructured dialogue in entertainment, celebrating the joy of hosting as a shared party experience. A playful idea of a podcast called *A Dangerous Thing*, where Stephen answers questions on a hotline with minimal knowledge, is proposed as a humorous and absurd extension of the show’s spirit. The episode concludes with a reflective tone, honoring the journey of the podcast and the enduring bond between hosts and audience through shared laughter and personal stories.
Hey, Sean, my name's Jason. You know what I love 300 of?
What?
Almonds, summer salads, tighty-whities, matcha lattes.
What about you? You like 300 of anything?
My name is Sean Hayes, and I like 300 glasses of milk.
I also like 300 pounds of spaghetti.
And I also like 300 pound men.
Mm-mm-mm-mm-mm-mm-mm-mm-mm-mm-300
La-la-la, la-la-la
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La-la-la, la-la-la
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Welcome to the 300th episode of
300 Episodes of Smartland!
Yee-haw!
It looks so good.
I know.
I mean. She's still getting around.
I think that our guest was clapping.
That's pretty. That's nice.
I know, she's. Oh, okay.
No, okay.
Well, now it feels like that's about the guest.
But does it feel like 300, you guys?
No.
That's 300 weeks, which is how many years?
Go ahead.
300 weeks is. Six.
Six years.
Yeah, just. Yeah.
But it's. Yeah, it's coming up on six years.
Wow.
That's insane.
300 divided by. Well, thank you.
Thank you should go out to those who are giving us some ear time.
Yeah.
Thank you very much for listening to us try to figure out what we're doing.
It seems unlikely that you would continue to listen to us at all in the first place.
I know.
I guess a thank you would go out to the guests as well, then, because that is the reason.
We're not being falsely modest here.
We do this little drivel for a few minutes,
And then we get into the real draw, which is the guests.
We thank them for coming.
We also thank Bennett, Rob, and Michael for helping us get here.
Yeah.
It's a really robust audience.
What an audience.
It's incredible.
Yeah, we should give you right now.
We don't do this alone.
Yeah.
Bennett Barberco and Rob Armjarv and Michael Grant Terry.
Armjarv.
Armjarv.
Are such integral and important pieces to this whole thing and part of our team.
We're all in the team together.
Are they?
No, they are.
We know that.
They are the feathers in the wind between the initial wings.
They are, of course.
We love you guys.
We love you guys a lot, and you guys do an awesome job.
We love you.
I don't know if people out there understand what an awesome job you guys do.
It's really pretty remarkable, so thank you.
Yes, thanks, guys.
Thank you, guys.
You would have turned this off years ago were it not for their work.
Yeah.
Yeah, you're right.
And I want to—who else do we want to thank?
How about your parents?
Thank your parents.
Thank your team.
Thank my team.
Thank your team, Will.
Obviously, I always want to thank—at every opportunity, I want to thank CAA for everything.
You know, I—
Scotty.
Scotty.
Scotty.
Scotty's done a lot right from the get-go.
He helped us a lot getting us going on social media and doing videos and stuff.
Yeah, all that stuff.
From the beginning.
From the beginning.
Yep.
Jason's wife for fucking keeping him in line.
Yeah.
Getting us in front of the microphone.
That's like a lion.
She's like a lion tamer.
She is.
So, Sean, you go ahead.
You have something you want to say?
I'd be remiss if we didn't bring something up that's very, very exciting.
We've got a bowl full of good news.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, that's good.
Oh, nice.
We're going to try this again, guys.
We're going to try it again, yeah.
This is big.
It's a break in the clouds.
Yeah.
We're bringing SmartList.
We're bringing SmartList to one of the most—
One of the most iconic spots in the world, the Hollywood Bowl.
Remember when we tried that last year?
I knew, I knew.
It got rained out.
Yeah.
This fall—
But this time, yeah.
Yeah.
What's the date on that?
It is Saturday, October 17th.
This is a true story.
We're really doing it.
Saturday, October 17th.
Tickets go on sale Friday, April 10th at 10 a.m. at smartlist.com slash live.
10 a.m. Pacific.
10 a.m. Pacific.
10 a.m. Pacific.
Sorry.
And guess what else?
Our listeners have a chance to get tickets first.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Our pre-sale begins Wednesday, April 8th at 10 a.m. Pacific.
Visit smartlist.com slash live and enter our code.
You guessed it.
Tracy with an E.
Yep.
T-R-A-C-Y.
For first access.
And I will say this, too, because a lot of people were bummed.
And remember, so many people came up with this.
Yeah, it was awful.
So for those of you who had purchased tickets for last year's Rained Out show,
be sure to check your emails because we set up a special time for you to purchase tickets.
Isn't that cool?
Wait, I didn't know that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We did a special thing.
So you just get an email saying, hey, you can buy tickets.
Yeah, hey, hey.
Wait, wait.
But did they get their money back for the tickets they purchased last time?
They did.
They got a refund.
They got a refund.
But now they got an email saying, hey, you get to jump the line or whatever it is.
Very nice.
All right.
So that's October 17th at the Hollywood Bowl.
If you don't live in Los Angeles, get on a bus, a train, a plane, a car, whatever you need to do.
Just start walking maybe now.
Get out here.
It's going to be special.
I'm so glad that we're doing this again.
I am really, really glad.
Me too.
And a lot of people.
Yeah, me too.
Anyway, listen, so much fun stuff.
But you know what?
We're wasting time.
We're wasting his time.
And by the way, he does not have time to waste yet.
He doesn't.
He is someone.
Doesn't have time to waste yet?
He's a friend.
He's such a friend of the show.
He came on super early days.
This is a double return?
This is a return because he's a friend of the show.
Very rare.
Because we love him so much.
Once I start naming all the stuff he's done,
you're going to know instantly,
even though our audience already knows because they're listening.
But I can just tell you some of his accomplishments
and maybe you'll get it.
He first soloed Everest at 18, oxygen-free, without a Sherpa.
He swam the English Channel in a hurricane.
He's won 19 Home and Garden Awards.
He's Conan O'Brien's number one enemy,
and he won a Nobel Prize for farting.
You guys, it's Stephen Colbert.
Brilliant.
Brilliant.
Oh, my God.
I like the technology I was asked to use to disguise myself.
I know.
It's so. I know.
I was really excited there for a second
that we were going to have an Everest summiter on this show.
Yeah, I want to correct that.
I did not summit Everest without a Sherpa.
Oh, okay.
It was without a shirt.
Without a shirt.
We were going up in teams, and it was shirts versus skins.
Oh, gosh.
Yeah.
This was. You know, that. This was in middle school.
And the coach was just like. He didn't have enough pennies, so it was like shirts versus skins.
And we lost a lot of people on the South Call.
A lot.
We lost half the debate team on the South Call.
Never came back.
They're still up there.
They're still, like. They're still. Forever young.
Forever young.
And it was refereed by Sir Edmund Hillary, of all things, which is amazing.
Wait, would you do that?
If you had an opportunity to at least go to base camp,
I don't like heights.
Let's go around.
I don't like heights.
I really don't.
I would do it.
I would do it.
I would do it, too.
I kind of like the cold like that.
No, I just. There's something about that mountain that just gets me all cray-cray.
Bullshit.
Yeah, I swear to God.
There's something about that mountain.
That is reaching for manhood.
There's just something about that mountain.
I'm a K2 man myself.
Really?
Now, I stop at Akangagua.
Okay?
I only do. I only do South American peaks.
Really?
Look at me.
Everest.
That's kind of basic.
Isn't that kind of basic to be an Everest guy?
Of course not.
Oh, the Beatles are great.
I love Everest.
I get my gas at Exxon.
Fuck you.
By the way, by the way.
You're a poser.
You're a fucking poser.
You're a shirt.
You're a shirt.
You're on the shirt team.
He died on the thing.
Bateman lands at fucking Kathmandu.
He checks out the bus that's picking him up, and he is back on the plane.
He's so back to Dubai to make his connection to LA.
As soon as it becomes clear to me that there's no Wi-Fi.
As soon as there's no Wi-Fi, I'm back on the bus.
What's the thread count?
What's the thread count at 26,000 feet?
It's way too low.
Way too low.
Do you know, when I was in middle school, Stephen, I used to hate shirts and skins.
I used to get so self-conscious because I don't want to take my shirt off.
I wasn't in great shape, but no, you did.
Of course you did.
I couldn't wait for it.
Yeah, I had nipples the size of pepperonis.
It was not. Me too.
Me too.
They used to call me shape.
Me too.
Shakey's.
Shakey's Pizza, Los Angeles.
And they used to take napkins and get the grease off of them.
You'd volunteer to ref.
You'd say, I'll just ref.
I'm good.
I'm good.
What if I were the goal?
Willie did some goalie time.
Willie was a good goalie in hockey, right?
There's no shirts and skins there.
What time zone are you in?
In Will?
Space.
Are you in New Zealand?
Space.
No, I'm in Los Angeles.
It's early morning here.
What time is it?
It's 9.45, but I just. Do I look crazy?
But Bateman, aren't you in Los Angeles too?
I'm in Los Angeles and you two are in the New York City?
I'm in New York City.
Yeah, I'm in New York City.
I'm in a dark room, Steven.
I'm in my little booth.
Oh, I see.
Steven, what's going on?
How much longer?
Do you stay in New York City when you're done with the show?
Yeah, until the court order.
I have to stay in the tri-state area.
So that's still pending.
Just so they lift the court order, I have to stay in the tri-state.
That's still in effect.
I mean, we're appealing.
Sure.
But, you know, it's whatever judge you get.
It's whatever judge you get.
That has nothing to do.
Of course, it's such a gift.
It's who you know, man.
It's who you know at child custody.
I can't believe at this stage of the game you're still playing this courtroom politics.
It's unbelievable.
You know, I guess I'll stay in New York.
I don't know.
New York is home.
New York's been home for how long?
How long?
I got, let's see.
My first New York gig was in 19, meow, meow, meow, 1990.
Why did I leave Second City?
Sorry for the boredom here.
No, we'll tighten this up.
We'll tighten it all up.
94.
94.
I came to New York to work for HBO Downtown Productions.
I worked on a show called Eggs of 57.
Oh, yeah.
I do not recommend it.
I do not think we knew what we were doing.
Wait, what is it?
I remember that.
It was a sketch show.
It was the year that, it was like, there was this one year where if you had any kind of sketch group, you got a show.
It was us.
It was the state.
It was kids in the hall were still doing their thing.
They were at the end of their thing.
Wait, but who was in Eggs of 57 with you?
I remember.
Amy Sedaris, Paul Dinello, Jody Lennon, and Mitch Rouse.
It was the five of us.
And then our director was a guy named Mick Napier.
I don't know if you've known Mick.
He was a Chicago improv director.
What an introvert.
And I lived here.
I'd just gotten married.
Of course, just got married and got a gig in New York.
My wife, Evie, stayed in, I call her my wife.
It's a pet name.
And she stayed in Chicago.
And I came and I lived in a seminary.
I lived at the General Theological Seminary of the Episcopal Church.
I lived in the dorms.
I lived in a garret, like one of these garrets.
On 21st Street over there?
Yeah, yeah, down there.
I lived in that thing.
It's really beautiful.
Beautiful.
Those grounds are insane.
Yeah, it started in 1827.
It's where A Night Before Christmas.
A Night Before Christmas takes place.
Because Clement Clark.
Jason.
Sorry.
What happened?
Jason, wait, quick, mention golf.
Oh, fuck, we're recording.
Quick, mention golf.
Steven, mention golf.
Oh, the lawn out there is just, it is a bent leaf bluegrass.
It is un-chippable.
Very chippable.
Anyway, I lived in there.
My room had hot and hot running water.
So that was my first gig.
So I came here in 94.
But then I moved.
I moved back, I would go back between seasons until the Carvey Show, which was 90, 96.
The Dana Carvey Show, we've mentioned before on this podcast, is the craziest group of
talent of maybe the greatest grouping.
Wasn't Steve Carell on that, too?
Go ahead.
Carell and I were office mates.
We had been in Second City together.
And then, yeah, it was me, Carell, Dino Stamatopoulos, Mike Stajanov, Louis C.
Kay was head writer.
Robert Smigel was the executive producer, of course, Dana Carvey.
John Glazer, Robert Carlock.
Yes, yes.
And Charlie Kaufman.
Wow.
Was this on NBC?
Yeah, and Heather Morgan, yeah.
Dude.
This was on ABC at like 8.30 or something after Home Improvement, whatever.
After Home Improvement.
It was a pure mismatch.
They did not go together at all.
Wait, I saw that clip of them promote the promo.
It was some documentary.
It was a clip from a documentary.
It was called Too Funny to Fail, yeah.
Too Funny to Fail.
And you made me laugh, sorry, because you were laughing so hard at the clip.
I had never seen the promo.
Yeah.
It was a promo.
It was in the Home Improvement.
Like, his son has got cancer or something, and he says to his dad, like, you know,
he goes like, I don't want to die.
And he hugs him and goes, you're not going to die.
And then he goes, and then the Mug Root Pier Dana Carvey show.
And we were just like.
Of course we were canceled.
That's what we were backing into.
That was one of the funniest clips.
If you haven't seen it, go online.
How long did it go?
We made, it was a 13-episode commitment, 13-episode buyout.
That's why I moved to New York, you know.
Sure, sure.
Security.
And then we shot eight of them, and seven of them went to air.
And the eighth one was pretty good, I got to say.
Well, how about this?
How about a return to doing sketch work at a minimum?
Are you going to get back into the sketch game?
Will you pay me minimum?
Right.
Will you give me scale?
But what about.
Because I think that's pretty good for our industry right now.
Well, look at what your office made Steve Carell.
And I guess the question is.
Yeah, I think he's kind of a flash in the pan at this point.
I don't think Carell's going to pan out.
There's an actor bug in you.
And how about pursuing that?
What do you think?
Yeah, but those guys.
Come on.
They have to memorize lines.
Yeah.
And it has been 21 years.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's been 21 years that I've been latched to a prompter.
And I don't know if I have the old cerebellum left to memorize.
No, it wouldn't take you long.
It would not take you long.
You guys are all actors, right?
Yeah, a little bit.
I don't know a lot of your work, but you guys all act?
We'll send you stuff.
We'll send you some clips.
Michael, God, I just complimented our crew,
and they didn't even send our fucking reels over to this guy.
I can airdrop you mine.
I'll airdrop you.
I'll airdrop you mine.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, no, yeah, sure.
100%.
Please send me some scripts, man.
Truly?
Come on.
I'm open to whatever, man.
I'll tell you one thing.
I have no fucking idea what I'm really going to do
until I finish what I'm doing,
because I don't know if you've ever hosted a network talk show at 1130.
But, oh, you would like to?
You would like to?
I'd like to.
I have some terrible news.
What, you would like to host a late night show?
I would.
That's always nice.
Yeah, you don't have the energy.
You're way too low energy for it.
You wouldn't be able to do it.
You'd be terrible at it.
Do you enjoy, like, riding in a flaming toboggan down a hill,
and the whole point is to not hit a tree by 1230 at night?
Because that's what it feels like more than anything else.
You're blindfolded.
You've lost three shows.
I'm sure I know I would.
Every time I joke about this.
The whole crew would quit.
You wouldn't even have to fire them.
They'd just fucking quit.
Okay?
They'd quit.
You'd be too tired.
You'd want to go home.
You'd be like, fuck this.
I've got to go again today?
They're like, it's Wednesday.
We started Monday.
All right, but let's try it.
Let's audition you.
Okay, I'm the guest on your show.
Let's do it.
This is good.
I'm the guest on your show.
You're the host.
I've come on, remember.
By the way, which is the conceit of what we're doing now anyway, but go ahead.
Okay, the show, but no, this is how it is.
So the show, I'm coming on for a show that you haven't seen.
Yeah.
Or you have seen and do not like.
Correct.
Okay.
It's Late Nighter with Jason.
Baby.
Hey, our first guest today is Stephen Colbert.
He's got a brand new show on.
Is it a daytime show?
Is it a daytime?
You just said today.
So is this like at noon?
Yeah, because I'm in bed by 8.
Is this following the view?
Okay, go ahead.
Hang on.
Let me talk to the audience.
We're going to go one more time.
Sometimes we do this.
It's the Late Nighter with Jason Bateman.
Hey, happy lunch, everybody.
Today, our guest is Stephen Colbert.
He's got a brand new show.
He's got a brand new net episode that is good.
But if you don't like it, it's on real fast and off real fast.
Here he is.
Welcome, please, Mr. Stephen Colbert.
Stephen.
Thank you.
Hey, man.
Great to see you.
Hey, good to see you.
Great to see you.
God, you're a much taller in person.
Thank you very much.
That's a good standard opener, right?
That's what I say to most people.
I say that to most people and they come on.
Right.
Or have you seen it?
Have you seen it?
You gained weight.
That's another good one.
And then how about this for an opener?
So what's been going on with you?
Oh, you know, I've been working on the project.
Did you like it?
Oh, my goodness.
Did you get a chance to see it?
My wife and I sat down to watch it the other day.
Oh, yeah.
And my goodness, did we have a good time.
Yeah, we do recommend people sit while watching it.
Oh, absolutely.
Or stand.
You can fold laundry while you do it.
You can do any number of things and not miss much.
Hey.
Was it fun to make?
We got to wrap it up.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Well, thanks for joining us today, Steve.
Our next guest is just a two-minute segment.
Wait, Stephen.
Oh, I would love to do guests that quick.
Wouldn't it be great?
Maybe I should do that for my last show.
I should have like 40 guests.
Dude, do it right.
They only get 30 seconds.
Wait, but that's a really good idea.
That's a really funny idea.
Because I don't know who to have for my last guest.
Like, that's a big thing.
Like, people are going like, who's your last guest?
I'm like, I don't know.
Yeah.
You can't sit.
It's only standing.
The only thing I could possibly imagine would be the right last guest,
because is the pope.
Mm-hmm, sure.
Yeah.
I've written, I've asked.
I've asked him to come on.
Have you really?
He's been on my list, too.
Could we end up hearing back from the Vatican yet?
Is it a hard no yet?
I've heard coin toss.
It's coin toss at this point.
Oh, God, imagine how old that coin is.
Imagine how very old that coin is.
On one side, it has the head of Tiberius.
Of course.
And you go, render under Caesar what is Caesar,
And Colbert, what is Colbert's?
that as my post.
I should have said P.S.
Oh, you know what?
You should have had
like a Latin motto.
Your show should have
had a Latin motto
this whole time.
Well, my old show
did have a Latin motto,
the Colbert Pour.
The motto was
Esse non quid esse.
No, it was
Quid esse non qu'esse,
which meant
to seem to be
rather than be.
Wow.
I didn't know that.
That's fantastic.
It was on the thing.
I also have a Latin motto
on my,
on my,
on our fireplace
at home.
And it says
burn unto thee.
Yeah.
What does it say?
Abandon all hope.
No, it says
haec domus quam
iocci adificawarunt est,
which means
this is the house
that Joke's built.
No way.
That's great.
That is cool.
That's great.
Do either one of you
two know that?
Quae hodie
sum turi sumus
benedicta deus
periesum
Christum dominum
nostrum.
There's my answer.
Hey.
Ophilemi boni
beli dominus
vabiscum
beli ominus.
Mincena
in corpore sano.
Listen, guys,
who cares?
I went to school
on a bus.
Oh, are you in that movie
with Viggo Mortensen,
Captain Fantastic,
where he raises his kids
and takes his kids
to their home?
JB, have you seen that?
I have not.
You'd like his
full frontal Viggo, too.
Can I get into Viggo
for a second here?
Yeah.
Do you see my background at all?
Do you see the stuff
of all my
Lord of the Rings stuff here?
Yes, I love that, Stephen.
I think that's incredible.
So this is a map
of Middle Earth
right there.
Sean, stand up real quick.
Let's see if he's got it.
Sean, stand up.
Okay.
There's other things.
This right here,
this is in
the Lord of the Rings
in the final battle
at the Black Gate.
We watched them
just like last week.
He's wearing chain mail
under his plate.
Yes, yes.
Viggo is.
This is some of
the chain mail
from Viggo's armor
in that final scene.
Wait, how did you get that?
How did I get that?
Stephen, how old were you
when you lost your virginity?
They don't just give
these shows away, Sean.
You've got to be a mover.
That's not even what
I wanted to show you, fuckers.
Listen to this.
I'll tell you how he got it.
He asked offhand
to an assistant.
Let me see that.
Oh, yeah.
That is an image
of Aragorn
made out of chocolate.
Oh, my God.
Who did it?
Given to me
by Viggo Mortensen.
Wow.
That's really cool.
He gave this to me
25 years ago
when he was promoting
the Lord of the Rings.
You obviously know
the story where he,
in anger,
kicked one of the dead orcs
and ripped his toe off.
He kicked a helmet.
He kicked a helmet.
Yeah, one of the dead orcs
up on the helmet.
And then he kept going
and his scream
is him screaming
in pain.
Yeah, I think that's
And Peter Jackson went,
oh, that was good.
Let's keep that take.
And then he found out later.
We'll be right back
with dork chat
after this first.
Hey.
Hey.
Hey, guys.
Now that we've cleared
the ladies out of the room,
let's get down to it.
All right.
They're all gone.
All right.
Whose shirts?
Whose skins?
We'll be right back.
We'll be right back.
All right.
Back to the show.
Wait a minute, Stephen.
I want to go back
to the talk show for a minute.
Wait, because you were
kind of alluding this with Jason.
Me too, but they won't let me.
Obviously, I don't want to know names.
Please don't say names.
But what are the types of guests
that are the greatest
and the types that are the worst?
And also mouth the worst.
The worst?
Oh, boy.
Oof.
The best guests are just anybody
who wants to talk
and actually have a conversation.
Like, that the card is immaterial.
Like, we don't have to stick to the card.
I mean, don't get me wrong.
I really like, like,
Nathan Lane comes on,
and what I love about him
is that he's old-timey.
Yeah.
And it has nothing to do with his age.
It means he comes on,
and he, I know,
to ask him a question,
and he's got 90 seconds
on that subject,
at the end of which
there's a word he says,
and he's done with that story.
Right.
And I move on to the next thing,
which is very,
a very old school,
very Carson.
And I love it.
It's the old days.
But what I really like
is just somebody
who's just coming to come on and talk.
Right.
And also someone who's really,
that's why I like Neil Tyson,
because Neil Tyson,
A, I'm interested in this subject,
Neil DeGrasse Tyson.
Absolutely.
And then he burns so,
like, passionately,
he wants to explain things,
he's like this lump of,
like, glowing conversational uranium,
and I feel like singed
on one side of my body
after he leaves.
We loved him, too.
He's so good.
He's a joy.
I stumped him.
He couldn't answer my question.
That's not true.
He didn't get it.
Who, name all the children
on the Partridge family?
And what their astrological signs were?
Yeah, he couldn't get it.
Couldn't get it.
No, he got it.
He got stumped on Danny.
He had everybody but Danny.
Would you think he'd know?
Right, because Danny's on a cusp.
He's a cancerly old cusp.
Wait, Stephen, tell me about,
and I know I'm sorry
if you've answered this question
a billion times,
what are you feeling
about the end of your show?
And, like, all of that,
and. I actually have not answered it
a million times.
I've answered it once
to Seth Meyers,
and he answered that,
he asked that question way better.
Let's see how Jason
would do.
Well, I mean, it's. Jason, do it on your show.
How would you ask Stephen
on your show?
Yes.
Stephen, end of your show,
thoughts?
250 people losing their jobs.
Any feelings?
You've only got 30 seconds,
remember.
People gotta get back
after lunch.
Lunch breaks these days
are short.
Yeah, 30-second clips.
Hey, listen.
You know, on one level,
I have no time
to feel anything about it
because, as I said,
I was just saying,
it really is like
a flaming toboggan ride
every day.
Like, I got a show.
I don't have
time for this bullshit.
I've gotta go do a show
today.
And it takes
everything I got.
I don't know what
I'm gonna do after this
because I don't have time
to really. I mean, I've got stuff
I'm committed to doing
things after this
that I committed to
before we were canceled
that I've gotta, like,
deliver on.
But what I'm gonna really do,
I don't know,
because this takes
almost all of my brain
to do this.
And I love. And this group of people
that I work with,
I have cobbled together
over the last 21 years,
some over, like,
30 years of working
on TV.
Yeah, it shows.
The show is so goddamn
good.
Thanks.
And we have a really
good time to each other.
I mean, we have real
affection for each other.
We have a great time
together.
We call it the joy machine
because it's a machine
all the time.
And you can either
do it with joy
or not do it with joy
because if you don't
do it with joy,
your finger's gonna
get caught in the gears
and you're just gonna
be fucking mad and sad
all the time.
And so, you know,
we just try to have
a good time
and we want our guests
to have a really good time.
Like, the whole thing
is I really feel like
I'm a host.
It's like I'm hosting
a party.
But people get
nervous, though.
I remember JB,
sometimes people are
in the dressing room
and they're shitting
their pants.
Stephen, look.
God, I love it.
Wait, wait, look.
You have not been back.
He's been sitting on that.
You have not been back
since that story
has been told
and I've been waiting
to give you a pair
of underwear.
No, we got our underwear.
By the way, you sent us
underwear.
I still wear it.
I still wear mine.
I still wear mine, too.
I still wear it.
I have it on right now.
Wait, wait.
I don't have underwear.
Yeah, you do.
We sent you all underwear.
We sent you really nice
like Calvin underwear
or something like that.
No, what are they?
What are they, Sean?
No, they're called.
What's the brand?
Go low.
Go low, Sean.
Are they Tommy,
like Tommy. Tommy Bahama.
No, they're Tommy.
They're on the back.
They're on the back.
Tommy Bahama.
I don't know what. Have I not. Wait, Steve.
Scotty, come check
my underwear again.
He's like, again?
I can't read upside down.
This is the fourth time
this is not for that.
Not for that.
What brand is Wednesday?
Wait, Steve,
and I haven't been back
since then?
That's not true.
You have not back
since you shit your pants
on my show.
Oh, David Cross
can confirm.
For daily wear.
For daily wear.
Oh, yeah, that's. Oh, fuck.
I have a. Mark. Mark. Mark. Andresen.
Mark Andresen.
That's how he made
the billions.
Mac. Mac Wellen.
Mac. Okay.
Mark Andresen.
Mark Wayne. Mark Wayne Mellon.
Mark Wayne Mellon.
Fucking. You know, it's unreal.
These tech guys,
they're moving to underwear.
It's been unprecedented.
Oh, my underwear's
in the cloud.
It went from AI to underwear.
My underwear's
in the cloud now.
I shit. I shit my pants
in the cloud.
My underwear's
in your trash can.
We should explain
to the listener
that I had a little accident.
No, I don't think we should.
No, I don't think
we should explain.
I'm sorry.
You come and shit your pants
on my show,
you don't get to explain
anything until you come
on my show to explain.
You don't get to burn
this story on somebody
else's show,
even if it's yours.
I think Jason should be
your last guest now,
obviously.
It's not. He only comes up
for 30 seconds.
I'm sorry,
that's all we have time for.
I gotta go clean myself.
Goodbye.
Yes.
Well, all of our guests
in our gift bag,
we do have. We have dude wipes.
Now we do.
Dude?
Yeah.
They're denim.
They're denim dude wipes.
God damn it.
Wait, so Steven. God damn it.
35 minutes in,
we haven't had a question yet.
I love it.
This is called
a good guest.
No.
He asked how I was feeling.
Sean asked how I was feeling.
Yeah, do you remember that?
Yeah.
Then you ask them thoughts.
Let me finish answering that question
Just saying
How do I feel
Still very happy and grateful to have done the show for 11 years
And pre-missing everyone
And when is the last show
When is the date
They haven't told me yet
Someone's just going to come up and shoot me in the back of the head
Execution style
And they want me to wear a chin strap beard
And a stove pipe hat
And I don't understand why
A bunch of plastic on the desk
I just come in
I go huh
What's all the plastic doing on the floor
It's May 21st
So they're going to get some sweeps ratings out of it
Yeah
Do you know there are no sweeps anymore
Sweeps don't exist
They haven't been around for like 8 years
Get back in the game baby
I know this podcast thing is working out for you guys
But you know
You've lost a step
Old TV
Still
Old TV
There's no more
There's no pilot season
No
There isn't
Although I just read that they're going to try to do that again
That they're going to do pilots again
Well what's so
Yeah anyway
Oh pilot season
Maybe I'll fly out and do pilot season again
That was always fun
Why don't you do that
Stay at the Oakwoods
Stay at the Farmer's Daughter
Or whatever the thing that was
Oh my god I'm Fairfax
I used to stay at the Oakwoods
Yeah stay at the Farmer's Daughter
Or I had a brother who lives up in La Cañada
I would stay with him
Oh my god
He had great cars
He would lend me his Porsche
I would go to these
I didn't have
I couldn't like
I didn't have
Back then it was like pre-cell phones
I wouldn't
I couldn't make a phone call
I had no cash
But I would pull up to the audition
In a white Carrera
Wow
What's your brother do?
Was lawyer
He's 19 years senior than me
And I'm one of 11
He's the eldest on the baby
And a big, big California land use lawyer
And many other things too
Wow
Yeah
So you had nothing but
Poor you had a Thomas guide
Oh sure you did
Oh I did
Page 33 and 34
The Thomas guide flipped over
Okay H like that
I remember I had a Thomas guide
I just kept it in my bag all the time
Because I don't know
I never knew when I'd have to go to LA
And when OJ was
When the chase
I was driving from New York
What happened?
Yeah
This guy got railroaded
Tell him
I have some terrible news
Oh my god
You're gonna be so
He's a fucking crazy OJ
OJ fan
What?
Oh
You're gonna be so
All the way back to the Trojans
We've kept him insulated
Because he just
He's such a fan
Oh
I was driving from New York
Down to Maryland
For a wedding
And he's in the chase
And I just
I'm in the backseat
Driving down with these people
To a wedding
And I get in the backseat
I've got the Thomas guide
Following where he is
Based on what they're saying
On the radio
On the Thomas guide
And we go
Oh he's getting off
He's gonna get off the highway
Here's his exit
And I was like
Trying to stay warm
I was one step ahead of OJ
The whole time baby
You were like
What's he doing?
He's taking Montana?
That's crazy
At this time of day?
Was it crazy?
He'll never make it back
Yeah
I was in
I remember I was in
I was out here
I was in California
Briefly
When that happened
I was staying at a friend's house
Up in the hills
And I could see
You could see
Where he was going by
All the helicopters
Going along the freeway
Just the pack of helicopters
Following him
And then culminating
In his house
It was so scary
I still feel like
That was like
Three years ago
I know
Isn't that weird?
Yeah
Yeah
I know
I remember they interrupted
I think the NBA playoffs
Or something
Yes
Right?
Yes
The Knicks
The Knicks were in the finals
With the Lakers
When I arrived at this wedding
My wife had gone on ahead of me
It was all her friend
It was her friend getting married
And I pull up
To this
And they haven't
He's not out of the car yet
It's still the overhead chase
And I come up
And my wife is at the door of the bar
Where everyone's meeting
The night before the wedding
And I get out of the car
I walk past her
I went
Hi
And I walk into the bar
She has not seen me
Because I'm living in New York
Working
And she's in Chicago
She hasn't seen me
Like in two weeks
I went
Hi
I walked by her
And I went up to the bar
And I said
Can you please change that game
To any news station right now?
And the guy went
No
And I said
I promise you
People will be interested in this
Yeah
Because remember
Everybody was really concerned
That he was just wanting
To get into his driveway
So that he could
Commit suicide
In the back of that
Remember they said
That there's a gun back there
And he just wanted
To get to his house
And get it done
And a wig
Something
Yeah
And there was a whole
Suicide note
And a wig
A wig was there?
It was a wig
Oh a wig
Not Kristen
I'm sorry
It was a wig
Kristen's wig
Was in the backseat
He was actually
It was the same day
He was auditioning
For La Cage
No way
They were paired
And he would have been
He would have been fantastic
In all fairness
Let's all admit
Yes
You know murder
Yes
But fantastic
Yeah incredible
In fairness you're right
You think Nathan Lane
Hasn't killed somebody?
There's our clip
I am what I am
Who knew our 300th
Would be our last?
You know
Right
This is
This is pretty
Oh happy 300
This is 300?
Thank you
Now yeah I think
This is 300
You were on early
You were on early
Early days
One of our first ones
First 10
First 20
Yeah I didn't even
I didn't even know
Who you guys were
They're like
Do you want to do this thing?
And I'm like
Oh you still don't
Price was right
Yeah
You're googling us
As you speak
Wait back to
The Farmer's Daughter
I hooked up with someone
At the Farmer's Daughter
Huh?
Oh go ahead
Wait a second
Wait a second
Wait a second
Was he pale and Irish
From South Carolina?
Was he very lonely?
Did he keep on calling
Did he call you Evie?
Steven does that
Does that line up
Steven with what you called
Your blackout days?
Is that
Yeah
This is all time out
I think we matched Legos
Wait Sean
Sean keep
Keep going
Uh huh
No that's it
It was
I was so young
End of story
So then
So you'd go audition
In the morning
You'd audition like
A couple of places
In the morning
And then you'd go to the
Whatchamacallit
The Farmer's Market
That's right
But the old one
In the big parking lot
Whatever
Before the Grove was built
Yeah
And then you'd get
Like a fruit plate
And you and all the people
You knew from Chicago
Which was my situation
You'd sit around
And you'd put your
Beeper
That's right
In the middle of the table
And everybody put your
Beeper in front of you
And you'd be eating like
Some lovely melon
Or whatever like that
And then
And somebody would start buzzing
That's right
And
Call back
And then you'd be like
Well
Yeah
Well that's the life
I could have had
What was that great breakfast
Place that was there
Denny's
At the Farmer's Market
Yeah
Oh it's called
DuPars
DuPars
No no it wasn't DuPars
It was like a
It was like a counter
It was not DuPars
It was like a
It was part of the
Farmer's Market though
There were a lot of
Tasty little treats in there
Well Stephen
Do you remember
Do you remember going in
And reading for
Reading for a pilot
And signing your
Your five year deal
And seeing
And seeing what you
Could be making
If you do
Make
Make it past
This final round
Yeah I want you to know
I did not go to
Network that many times
Huh
I
It turned out
Had to write for myself
Because
Yeah yeah
I
I was ostensibly an actor
But I was really
A
I turned out
I was probably a writer
Who needed to write for himself
Because I didn't
There's not a lot of tape on me
From the early days
And
I went to network
Oh god
They were going to do
An Addams Family
I remember that
Oh wow
They were going to do
Like a reboot
Of the Addams Family
I did
I was called back in
For Gomez
I remember that
That was kind of fun
Do you remember who got it?
Do you remember who
Who's in that pilot?
Nope
Oh
Here's a good one
I was supposed to be
The sidekick
Did I tell you this already?
No
Did I tell you this last time?
I was offered
The sidekick
For the magic hour
What's the magic hour?
I was
Magic Johnson's
Talk show
No way
Oh wow
Yeah I was offered
The sidekick
On the magic hour
Did that ever go?
I don't remember that show
It did
It went for like
Eight weeks
Or something like that
Like whatever
32 shows
Or something like that
And I got called in
A really lovely fella
Named Jim Sharp
Who used to
He was head of development
For Comedy Central
And I knew him through that
And he goes
Would you come in
And just meet with these people?
And I said sure
I mean I had
A wife and a child
And none of us had any jobs
And I was like
Whatever
I will dance on the head of a pin
Right
You know
Shirtless
And I
I went in
And I met with them
And
First I went to the gym
And then Magic's team came in
And Magic's team
All looked like
The Lakers?
The entire basketball team
Just the Laker girls
Just the Laker girls
Okay sorry
They all came in
They're all very attractive
Very athletic looking
And all I think
Is that they look like lawyers
And they came in
And they explained to me
Like what the show was going to be
And they said
You're going to be like
You're going to be the announcer
And the sidekick
And you'll be like
You're like
Magic's crazy uncle
Like he'll do
He'll do a monologue
But you're like the crazy guy
And you'll pepper him with like
You'll yell things at him
And you're like
You'll say stuff
And he'll like
He doesn't know
What you're talking about
Like you know
You're like the crazy uncle
He doesn't understand
What you're saying
Or anything like that
And evidently
I really wowed them
In when I said
I understand what you mean
Like I said
I don't remember saying
Anything other than
The words you're saying
Are registering
With my tympanum
And then I got called
And they said
They want you man
They want you
And I had to sit
My pregnant wife down
Because I flew back to New York
And I had to sit
My pregnant wife down
And we're unemployed
She's pregnant
And I had to say to her
I've been offered this job
On the magic hour
And I have to not take it
And she goes
What?
And it paid well
I'm going to say
It paid well
And we didn't have, we were living with her.
her parents back in South Carolina.
It was a bad situation.
And we're in the breakfast nook of her parents' house.
And I said, I can't.
I just think this would not be good for me.
Like, I would never be able to wash off this tape.
I just don't think this is going to be good.
And then she stood up.
God bless this woman.
She stood up.
She looked at me, and she said, okay.
She said, I trust you.
And then she walked out of the room, and it was a bad moment.
And then, like, six weeks later, it went on the air.
And she turned to me.
She says, good call.
Because Magic comes out, turns to this guy.
I forgot who it is.
Perfectly lovely comedian who got the gig.
I used to know his name.
I can't remember.
You'd know him if you saw him.
He's a funny guy.
And the first thing the guy says to Magic, Magic goes, man, he's like my crazy uncle.
He says things, and I don't know what he's talking about.
He, like, just named exactly what they had said to me in the meeting.
And then it kind of went downhill from there.
And so that was.
You think you would have ended up owning a piece of the Dodgers had you stayed?
No, but a lot of movie theaters.
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, that's not a great business nowadays, right?
Owning those theaters.
Those are closing, aren't they?
You can just go in and buy popcorn, you know.
You don't have to actually go see a movie.
No kidding.
You can just go in and buy popcorn and work the Coca-Cola machine.
No shit.
Yeah.
That's how they're surviving.
I live so close to Century City, I could just.
See, it's convenient.
You don't even think about it.
God.
So, wait.
So, that's like 94, 95.
That type of thing, like in there.
That's pre or post?
Yeah, that's 90.
That's 97.
That's 97.
That's 97.
It's post my first gig.
So, it's right before Strangers with Candy.
Yeah, it's after Carvey even.
After Carvey.
It's after Carvey.
I've done X-37, then I've done Carvey, and then Strangers with Candy.
I actually, while I was out there for that pilot season, Paul Dinello and I, with Amy
Sedaris, wrote the pilot over the phone.
We wrote the pilot for Strangers.
Wow.
That's amazing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So great.
I know you kind of already answered this, but after you're done with the show, I don't
know, everybody's going to keep asking you over and over, what are you going to do?
What are you going to do?
I feel like a college senior.
I feel like I'm just about to graduate.
Because they want you.
Because they want more of you.
We didn't get a vote in all this.
Everyone was watching your show because they want you.
They love you.
They don't want it to be over.
Right, right.
So, what are you going to do for us?
So, what's the story?
Yeah, so what's the dream?
I guess I just join you guys.
You guys.
That'd be great.
There we go.
We've got our second clip.
Fourth?
Yeah.
You need four?
Finally, you're in.
You're finally ready.
We're ready.
Even split, right?
Even equity?
Oh, yeah.
Of course.
Yeah, yeah.
I can get up higher.
Or I'll dilute one of you.
I'll dilute one of you.
We'll draw straws.
We'll draw straws to see who gets diluted.
Sounds fair.
Okay, sure.
Yeah.
We'll be right back.
And now, back to the show.
But what is the. I know, sorry.
We can move on from this if you want.
But what is the dream?
Like, is there anything that you've always wanted to do?
Here's the thing.
There's a lot of things that I enjoy doing.
I kind of live in the dream.
You know, this was never my dream.
I never had any intention to do this gig.
It was. No, I never had any intention to. This was a happy accident that I got this gig.
Like, I quit the old show before this show came to me.
I hadn't told anybody I'd quit.
I was like, okay, this is the end.
That was the end of that show.
And then before I could tell anybody, they offered me this.
And then I came over here.
But the idea was just, I was just going to go back being an actor again.
I was going to go just do that, live that life.
So then maybe we can look forward to that, what Jason was saying.
Maybe you're going to be an actor.
Yeah, I'm about to go. I'm about to enter into show business again.
I've kind of not been in show business for 21 years because this is artificial.
Like, to be able to come in every day to know where your clothes are
and who you're working with and what time it starts and what time it ends.
Right.
And especially as the. Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
As the host, because you kind of even. You even get to make the yearly schedule.
You just have to hit a number.
But you get to make the dates.
But after 21 years of that, now I'm like, wait, so if I'm lucky,
I have to go to Prague for three weeks?
Yeah, exactly.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Prague's a lovely place, but, like, I've really enjoyed. I mean, I got to raise my kids under those conditions,
like, where I know where I was.
Yeah, right.
And I was so lucky.
And there's lots of young people who this was their first job,
and they've been with me for 20 years.
And now they're not young anymore.
Amazing, amazing.
And I'm trying to prep them.
I'm trying to prep them for what it was like before I had this gig,
which is real show business,
which is, like, high diddly-dee-dee in actor's life for me.
You know, it's very much of a caravan.
But then, so then just to build on that, then,
I mean, the bar is very high for that which you are comfortable doing.
Like, you don't want to be. Or very low.
Or very low.
Like, I really, honest to God,
I tell you, you know, the person who did the thing that I most admire,
I mean, not most admire, but the thing that really struck me is, like,
you know what Hader did when he left SNL?
Huh?
He went and wrote for South Park for a season.
Uh-huh.
And I remember I saw him.
I was still doing the first show when he did that.
And I was sitting behind him at the Emmys,
and I said, man, that's the perfect thing to do.
Just go serve something that you love already.
Like, see, can I be of service to people whose work I really admire?
And I thought, that's a great thing to do.
Don't even worry about, like, your status of your previous gig.
Just go do something you love.
I just don't have the time to. I mean, I got some things I do want to do,
but I would never do that.
I would never tell you what they are.
Sure.
No, no.
Because then you would go do them.
Right, right.
This is a cutthroat. I know what it's like.
But just a hint.
I know what Hollywood is like.
Just a hint, though.
Just a little hint.
Just a hint?
Is it streaming?
Is it linear?
It's just us.
It's just us here.
It's pay-per-view.
Pay-per-view.
That's still a thing.
Yeah, yeah.
It's going to be. It's mostly. It's a form of. UFC.
It's a form. It's MMA, technically.
It's a form of MMA.
Oh, okay.
So smart.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I love it.
Would you fight Jake Paul?
Could that be your next move?
Who wouldn't watch that?
Come on.
God, I would love that so much.
Sprinting around the ring.
If you announced. If you challenged him to a fight when you rap. I remember on the old show,
I challenged. Do you know who Brock Lesnar is?
Yes.
Sure, yeah.
On the old show,
I challenged Brock Lesnar
to a fight.
I called him a pussy
and everything like that.
And I was. It occurred to me
that it was over multiple shows
and I don't know why I did it.
I don't know what had happened
that I got mad at Brock Lesnar
in character.
And at a certain point,
I went,
I should stop saying this.
Did he ever come on the show?
That guy's enormous.
My head would just
sheer off cleanly
like a graham cracker
if he punched me once.
God, remember him?
Jesus.
He's still alive.
He's not dead, is he?
No, I know.
Don't even joke about
Brock Lesnar dying.
No, yeah.
No, no, no, no.
I mean, when he was fighting,
remember him.
Oh, yeah.
He's a monster.
Remember Mike Tyson
was just like. Just so violent in the ring.
Have you seen that?
The Jake Paul, Mike Tyson fight?
Have you seen the footage
where Mike pulls a punch
because if he had followed through,
he would have killed Jake Paul?
You see that calculation of like,
eh, I promised him
I wouldn't do this.
And then he puts his fist down
because Jake's open completely.
His head is just. Enter here sign
right on his chin.
And Tyson sees the opportunity
and you see him
not take the opportunity.
I remember seeing that video
going around
and everybody saying
this is definitely
what the deal was.
Yeah.
I mean. Did you. Like, I say I grew up. I'm old enough.
I'm much older
than two of you.
And. And I. When I was a kid,
we was. Ali was on TV.
There's no paper.
Like, you would go
watch Ali on TV.
And Foreman
and Smoke and Joe Fraser.
And it was. It was a big part
of my childhood
was watching professional boxing.
I never understood it.
I don't. Where the goal
is to hit someone so hard
that they lose consciousness.
They lose consciousness.
Yes.
That's the goal.
To hit them
as hard as you possibly can
just shy of killing them.
That's right.
You don't get it?
That's the sweet science
right there.
Sean, you don't get it.
Well, what's the draw?
I mean, you've met people before, right?
And by the way,
if you do kill them,
you're good.
You've been in the world.
Don't get prosecuted.
No, you can.
If. Oh, really?
If they die,
you can get prosecuted?
Boxers can get prosecuted, yeah.
Really?
Oh, really?
Yeah.
But isn't that the goal?
To kill. No, the goal is to not kill them.
But almost kill them.
Yeah.
How about bullfighting?
How do you feel about bullfighting?
Oh, that's not good.
Sure, I'll watch it
for a few seconds.
Yeah, I'll eat them,
but I won't stab them.
How dare you?
I'll eat them.
How dare you?
I'll watch them. I'll put a bolt stunner
in their head
and bleed them out.
And then I'll grind them up.
But I wouldn't want anyone
in tight pants
to taunt it to death.
Don't you. Don't you. Don't you. Don't you drag us out
to deep water.
How dare you?
Wait.
It's called heritage.
It's called heritage, my friend.
El heritijo.
I am listening to you.
What's the. Yeah, that's exactly right.
Oh, it's beautiful.
Oh, beautiful.
It's an art.
If you could bring. I went to the bullfight.
We went to the Plaza del Toro
in Madrid
when I was a kid
with my mom.
And my mom. My mom. I remember the whole time
she was like,
I don't know,
I know I shouldn't love it.
I know I shouldn't love it.
But. And the bull. It was a bad fight.
One of the. One of the. One of the. The fights was bad.
The matador was bad.
And my mother stood up
as the bull was being dragged off
and yelled,
Viva el Toro!
And I'm like,
you're from Larchmont.
What is happening to you?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
She was a Hemingway fan.
That was the problem.
Or the opportunity.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Papa, as we call him.
Yeah, the sun also rises.
- Are they still doing bullfighting?
- They are, in Spain they still are.
- Of course, yeah.
There's this Provencal bullfighting
Which is like on the
In southern France near the Spanish border
They don't hurt the bull
They taunt the bull
And they run away from it
And they basically do dives to get out of its way
And between its horns
There are strings tied
And there are little ribbons and things
And if you get close enough to pull the ribbon off
And not get hit by the bull
That's the primo de primo
The French, they just surrender to the bull immediately
Is that the deal?
Some of them, they tell the bull where the Jews are
Wait, what do you get if you pull a ribbon off the bull?
Honor
What do you get? Honor
And is there a receipt for that?
Yes, there is
I'll send it to you on his website
I follow the season
There's a season
And then it's their teams
So you're into it, you're into that
Would you ever run with the bulls?
Yes, I would
My son did that
It's a very good, it's a very manly look
To wear the white outfit
It's the Feast of San Sebastian or something
I forget what it's called
There's a tomato fight associated with the weekend, isn't there?
That's a different thing
That's a totally different town
That's true
I was sent a package
There's a town in Spain
Where they have tomato fights
The way that you mix up
Your European festivals
Is so funny
It's fucking gross, dude
And then don't they throw oranges at one of them, too?
There's an orange toss
During Oktoberfest
Yeah
And then you drink beers
You go up to Germany and you have beers
It's the same weekend
How much time do you spend with Sedaris these days?
Not enough
God, she's a treasure, isn't she?
She's lovely
She's just marvelous
That Instagram of hers
I don't know how she gets those photos
Very powerful
Her birthday is
Coming up soon
Well, what's amazing is
How big she is on Instagram
She didn't get a cell phone
Until about 2018, I don't think
2018, right?
I mean, you know that, too
She never had a cell phone
She had to call her at home
And leave her a message
Oh, by the way
A friend of mine just
Do you know there's
These are like new things
There's now landlines are coming back
And you can
And there's six numbers
There's like 630886 or whatever
Instead of a seven number
No, but
Yes, correct
And it's tied to
The internet in your house
But it's a landline
And it can only go to
A certain person
Like, right?
One person
Like a hotline
Only that person can pick up the phone?
Yeah
Like, is there a thumbprint identifier?
I don't know
It's like a hotline
Like the old school hotline
Almost like a hotline, yeah
And they're getting really popular
Really fast
Hmm
Do a little bit more research on that
And come back and listen to it, Sean
I was about to say
You know what, Stephen
That story did not pan out
A lot of excitement
A lot of excitement
A lot of excitement
And if we had jumped on
Maybe we could have gotten
That boat up on its skags
Yeah, yeah, sure
We could have actually
We could have made the wave with you
Yeah
But we just washed you
But there's nothing else to the story
Other than landlines are coming back
You know what?
You should do that maybe, Stephen
What about a landline
Where you have like a hotline
And you answer
People call it
And you just stand by the phone
And you answer questions
They pay you
Right?
Sort of a couple bucks
And then you pick up the phone
And you give them like 30 seconds
Oh, I have a wealth of knowledge
Ask me anything
Ask me anything
Right now, let's try it out
Ask me anything
And let's see
Let's see if I
Let's see if I know
Anything about the subject
In what country
And on what weekend
Do they do the tomato fight?
This is great
This is great
That is
That is actually
It's not in Spain
It's in Italy
It's on the Feast of San Cristobal
It's on the 8th of August
Do you see this guy?
Come on
Is that true?
Is that true?
No, it's total bullshit
But that's
But that's what you're gonna get
On his hotline
And I think
I think the name
That'll be my podcast
And it'll be called
A Dangerous Thing
Because a little knowledge
Is a dangerous thing
And I just
I answer
I answer all
All of your questions
As with absolute confidence
Yeah, you know
Just enough to be misinformed
Because you have
I have
I have broad
But very shallow
Like you cannot get
Your ankles wet
In my level of knowledge
In most things
Other than the Lord of the Rings
It's called
Good Smelling Bullshit
With Stephen Colbert
That's right
Then you don't know
What it's like to be married to me
Are you like
Are you
Are you super into the
Because you're into
The Lord of the Rings and stuff
I love it
I imagine through
Initially through the books
Are you a big Star Wars guy too?
Because Sean is huge
Star Wars and that whole world
I do
I do enjoy
I do enjoy the
The Star Wars universe
I was
Lucky enough
When I was 13 years old
Star Wars came out
In 77
And
Because
WTMA
The local radio station
With the host Boobie Nash
And
12
12.50 on your AM dial
They gave away tickets
You had like
Be like the fifth caller
And you got
Four tickets
To see this movie
And nobody knew
What it was
It was called
Star Wars
And I won
Or my friend Keith Sargi
And it was me
And Keith Sargi
And Haskell Feudenberg
And Haskell's mom
Because we couldn't drive
We went to go see it
We had no idea what it was
And it was three weeks
Before it was released
Nationally
And so we went to
Northwoods Mall or something
And we had these
Early tastemakers
We had to stop by
The radio station
To pick up the tickets
And they were big blue
Tickets that had like
The Death Star on it
And an X-Wing
We didn't know what
Any of this was
Right, right
And we wanted to keep the tickets
Because that would be cool
They said, no, you gotta
Give us the tickets
But they handed us back
A big button
With a star field on it
That said, may the force
Be with you
We had no idea
What that meant
But we put our pins on
And we sat down
Absolutely
No idea what we were
About to experience
And then
You know, it was like
A long time ago
In the galaxy
Far, far away
We're like, what does that mean?
And Star Wars comes up
And we were
It grabbed us
By the
The scrotum
Like it just
Dragged
And I was 13
And there wasn't much
To grab at that point
And
Dragged us into the story
And
And the next day
Like the next Monday
We all went to school
And
There was no explaining
To anyone
How everything was different now
Right
Yeah, yeah, yeah
And then three weeks later
Everybody was
You know, excited
And we were like
But we
We knew before you did
Did you keep any of that stuff?
Do you still have any of that?
I still have the button, yeah
No, you still do, of course
Wow
The button is in my workroom
On the pegboard still
That's amazing
Sean will hire somebody
To come and
You shouldn't have said
I'm scared
You had Sean at Pegboy
Yeah
Yeah
Yeah
Steven, I'll clean your office
For you tonight if you want
Yeah
Wait, Steven
Go back to The Lord of the Rings
Just for two seconds
And then we gotta let you go
I know you gotta
No problems here, baby
What do you wanna know?
I know, but
But like
How often do you watch the movies?
Oh
I mean
I love
The movies
I've seen them many times
Again
I saw them
Like
I wrangled
In any way I could
To get tickets
And whatever
Little Hollywood connections I had
But when those things came out
To get in before anybody could see them
Like I saw
Like the Directors Guild
Preview screening
Across town here
Right
And
I've seen them many times
But I
And I love
Peter Jackson
And Philippa
And Philippa Boynes
And Fran Walsh
Jason, you ever seen it?
Which?
Lord of the Rings
Lord of the Rings
I don't think I've seen
Any of the Lord of the Rings
No way
Yeah
You're not shitting me, right?
You've not seen
I'm not
I bet I
I probably saw like
The first one
But I haven't
Let's do it at your house
The Return of the King
I was just
I was just gonna ask
What is
The Return of the King
What is considered
Between the Lord of the Rings
Star Wars
And Star Trek
What is considered like
The best
The best
Well they're all so different
Yeah
The best what?
Get to the
Get to the now
The best film
I mean Empire Strikes Back
I guess always
You mean in
In like
Science fiction or fantasy genre?
Yeah just like quality of film
And like the effects
And yeah
Lord of the Rings
That trilogy is generally considered
Among the cognizanti in this world
To be the only
The only perfect trilogy
Yeah
Wow
It's perfectly executed
Yeah
And how old are they?
They're
They're 20 years old
This is the 25th
This year is the 25th anniversary
I had Elijah Wood on last night
Oh you did?
The 25th anniversary
Of the first film
Oh right
I just read about that
And he was embarrassed to say
That he's yet to finish the books
He has not read the books yet
He started the books
Yeah
That'd be my story
Yeah
I remember I saw those
At the Burlington Mall
Burlington, Massachusetts
That's a great story
And you like The Hobbit?
That was a really
Wait no
I want to hear more about this story
Tell me about the Burlington Mall
Hang on
I'm just reading an email
But I'll tell you what I do
I do do
And I realize I just said do do
Is that I read the books constantly
Oh you do?
I love the movies
I admire so much
What they did with it
But I'm a book guy
Like I
Other than those
What kind of books are you into?
What do you like to read?
When I was younger
I was a huge Salinger fan
I mean
When I was
I've read
I used to read a book a day
When I was younger
When I had the time
And it was
All science fiction and fantasy
And then
A lot of philosophy
A lot of
Religious text
Stuff like that
You know like
Comparative religion text
Joseph Campbell
Sure
A lot of poetry
I love
Galway Kennel
Boy I'm bummed
That I asked that question
This is serious man
Mary Oliver
Mary Oliver
Have you read any Mary Oliver?
No
I'm much more sort of
In fiction
I'm really into like
Noir and stuff like that
And I was going to say
Len Dayton died yesterday
The great Len Dayton
Who wrote
I don't know if you guys
Are into any of that stuff
No?
Okay
No
Big shout out
Stephen Colbert
Let me just look at
My notes here
Really quickly
Any questions for Stephen?
Not a question
Is there a second question?
No
There's not really
A second question
For 300 guests
Yeah
Like this is
- It's such a special thing. - It's already over.
- That you are our baby. - God damn it.
an hour. It's a wrap. It's a wrap. Check the gate.
It's just fun to play. We just want to play with you more.
I'll have more time
in June.
Yeah, we're going to clear a seat for you.
Please invite me back every, what was it? It's been five years since I was on?
Yeah.
Almost six years.
Because you were on early. It's been almost six years.
So please, let's see in six years. This has been so fun.
But truly, Stephen,
for such a special thing for our
300th episode, it's really, really cool.
I didn't know this was 300th. What an honor
to be on such a milestone.
Who did you have for 200?
Do you remember?
The Pope. He answered us.
Francis? Pretty quickly.
That was an incoming from him.
I don't remember.
But it is true. It was a big deal.
We wanted to have you, and we went out of our way
to make sure that you were our 300th
guest, and you're just a delight
in everything you do.
As you know, I'm a fan.
Not only are you a great guy,
I'm such a fan of what you do.
I've always kind of looked up to you.
You're so funny and great and gracious and cool.
Thanks, you guys.
Well, this was the reason
why I came on,
is that you hadn't been on very long,
but every one of these I heard,
I thought, that sounds like enormous fun
to go on.
And I underplayed
how fun it is to talk to you guys.
I admire what you guys have built.
You finally found what you should be doing.
Yeah.
And I'm happy for you.
You know, just hold on to it tight.
Hold on to it tight.
Don't take it for granted.
We're gripping so tight.
We are gripping so tight.
And the listeners can feel it.
Thanks, you guys.
Thank you, man.
Have a great rest of your day.
Have a good show.
Thank you, pal.
Bye.
Bye, buddy.
Well, I tell you,
the talk show hosts,
they never fail.
Always the best guests.
God, he's funny.
I haven't laughed that hard in so long.
I know.
He is a fucking funny man.
It's just unbelievable.
And it went by in three seconds.
I know.
I know.
I could talk to him about Lord of the Rings
for nine hours.
I know you did, Angel.
I know.
It would be amazing.
Hey, will you come over
and show me one of those?
Yes.
Yes, please.
Okay.
I would love to do that.
Now, but if I'm going to like see
a Lord of the Rings film,
a Harry Potter film,
a Star Trek film,
or a Star Wars film,
which would be like the greatest cinema?
I don't know if Star Trek,
I don't think is in the same.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
You know, all due respect,
I think that it's kind of a different.
Scotty's a huge Star Trek.
Yeah, it is.
He's a huge Star Trek fan,
but I'm not.
So like which is like the best film, right?
I get they're all great movies,
but like is there like a real cinematic,
like Harry Potter's got
some incredible production design.
Of course, of course.
But I think that what you're looking for
would be Lord of the Rings.
Those movies are cinematically incredible.
Beautiful.
It's like they're like,
you know, what's that big movie
that Spielberg was inspired by
that's super famous?
Super famous, old, old, old movie
that was sweeping.
Lawrence of Arabia?
Yeah, Lawrence of Arabia.
It's kind of like that.
It's like scope and huge.
Gotcha.
It's really incredible.
I've heard that Sony's got
an incredible 70 millimeter print
of Lawrence of Arabia.
Oh, really?
Yeah, and that we should bother them
and go and ask Tom Rothman
if we can go watch it.
I've never seen it.
It's supposed to be amazing.
Yeah, I've never seen it.
It's supposed to be incredible.
Well, let's go.
I know.
Let's go today.
Let's go today.
Guys, how insane that we've done
300 episodes.
A lot of people say
it feels like we've done 600.
Yeah.
And, yeah.
But to have Stephen on
really just so special
and I want to say
I love doing this
with you guys so much.
This is such a joy.
Back at you, buddy.
It's never a dull moment.
Always so fun.
It's never hard.
We're so lucky
and I'm just going to say that
I'm going to piggyback on that
and just say I love you guys.
I'm so lucky.
We're like family and brothers.
And I just, I love you.
Love you right back.
I love both of you guys so much.
So, so much.
You're really important to me.
Thank you for the gift of your friendship
and this partnership.
Truly.
Likewise.
Well, with that,
I think I've overstayed my. I will say this.
I will say this.
Well, here it goes.
We've found,
we've made a great connection in this life.
He's feeling confident about this one.
The three of us.
And you know,
you've been out there.
Connections like these
are really, really, really hard
to come.
Bye.
Bye.
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Podcast Summary
Key Points:
The podcast marks its 300th episode, celebrating six years of being on air, and thanks listeners, guests, and the production team for their support.
A major new event is announced
Stephen Colbert is the guest, bringing humor, personal anecdotes, and a deep connection to the show’s culture, including his love for the Lord of the Rings and Star Wars.
The hosts reflect on their own careers, including early days in New York, work on shows like *The Dana Carvey Show*, and evolving experiences in TV and comedy.
The conversation explores the joy of live, conversational hosting, the challenges of modern entertainment, and the value of authenticity in guest interactions.
A playful, surreal idea emerges
Nostalgic memories are shared, such as early experiences with Star Wars and the excitement of receiving tickets before the film’s release.
The episode closes with a celebration of friendship, creativity, and the enduring spirit of live, unscripted conversation in comedy and media.
Summary:
The 300th episode of *Smartland* celebrates six years of hosting, marking a milestone with heartfelt thanks to listeners, guests, and the production team. A major highlight is the announcement of a live SmartList performance at the Hollywood Bowl on October 17th, with early ticket access for listeners using a unique code. Stephen Colbert is the featured guest, bringing humor, personal stories, and deep passions—such as his love for *The Lord of the Rings* and his childhood Star Wars experience—adding warmth and nostalgia to the conversation.
The hosts reflect on their own careers, including early work in New York and time on sketch comedy shows like *The Dana Carvey Show*. The episode emphasizes the value of authentic, unstructured dialogue in entertainment, celebrating the joy of hosting as a shared party experience. A playful idea of a podcast called *A Dangerous Thing*, where Stephen answers questions on a hotline with minimal knowledge, is proposed as a humorous and absurd extension of the show’s spirit.
The episode concludes with a reflective tone, honoring the journey of the podcast and the enduring bond between hosts and audience through shared laughter and personal stories.
FAQs
The 300th episode marks a major milestone in the show's history, celebrating six years of ongoing content and audience engagement, which has grown into a robust and dedicated community.
SmartList is bringing a live event to the Hollywood Bowl on Saturday, October 17th, following a previous rain-out event. Tickets go on sale on April 10th at 10 a.m. Pacific time.
Yes, listeners can access tickets first through a pre-sale that begins on Wednesday, April 8th at 10 a.m. Pacific time by entering the code 'TRACY' on smartlist.com/live.
Listeners who purchased tickets for the previously rain-out event receive a refund and are given special access to buy new tickets for the rescheduled show.
Stephen Colbert is a renowned comedian and host, featured as a guest due to his connection to the show and his recent new project, adding humor and insight to the discussion.
He reflects on the challenges of hosting, describing it as a demanding and draining experience, but emphasizes the joy and connection he finds in hosting with his team.
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