Stating the Obvious + 50 Shades Soundtracks

The following podcast is a Dear Media production. Hey, can you come pick me up? Yeah, what's wrong? Nothing. Are you sure? Yeah, no, I just need a ride. Ride? Ride. Oh my god. So what? I just want to have fun. Start your engines. Tiger. Tiger. Tiger. I'm Benito Skinner. I'm Mary Beth Barone. And this is Ride. Get your headphones on. That's not the first thing I'm going to say, but we're going to keep that in because it's raw. But it doesn't count as the first thing you're going to say for season three of, I just was about to say Overcompensating. Season three of Ride the Pod. It's all connected. All right. Are you ready? This is the first thing we're going to say for season three. So that just happened. Monkey emoji. Hands over eyes monkey emoji. What's that? What's that? Tyler Oakley thing where he wins an award and then he goes on stage and he goes, hand over eyes monkey emoji or something. I don't know. We won't look it up. Do you know this, Jackson? That's a deep cut. I know what it is, but I'm not the most pop culture forward guy. Well, Jackson, you revealed that to me earlier because you've only watched four episodes of Overcompensating. But he told me before you arrived that it's the first show he and his husband have ever watched that they both like. So they're savoring it. Yeah, because that makes me so happy. He's into all the really boring stuff like documentaries. So like, we love this show. And then he goes, I've got to fly out for two weeks. So now I'm like on pause. Don't do it privately. You reckon? And lie? Just lie? Don't lie. Don't lie. Here's my thing. You don't have to lie. But as I said, gay guys get one lie a week. And now that's been printed in Harper's Bazaar. I was like, damn it. You really can say things and then they print it. But I fear you might see spoilers soon. And by the way, like, we're going to have to start posting them, you guys. You got to watch this thing. I don't know what to tell you. It all came out at once. There was a weekend. What's your excuse? Exactly. I know you've got time. Yeah. I've been so overwhelmed in such a good way. Thank you all so much for watching this show. And I can't believe some of you have watched it again. I mean, I have seen it a hundred times. The thing that someone hasn't pointed out yet that I find the best moment in the entire show is when Mimi goes, I'm partnered. And you go, that's cool. When did that happen? And you have that fucking wig on. I love you so much. I'm so proud of you. I love you too. Can you believe it? I really like it's exceeded. It's wildest expectations. It's been so fun. And I'm so fucking proud of you. I sobbed about it. As you all saw the minute, the minute Terry hears me crying on FaceTime, he gets the camera out. He's filming. Hey, Jenner. Sorry. It's the camera out. He's here to just document our love story. My baby sees the shot. He's going to get it. Fan edits are addictive to watch. So all I do are watch fan edits. But here's the thing. I was watching so many. There were so many of what happens at the end of five where they put party for you over it. By the way, we did try to put it on. We did try to put it on. We did try to put party for you on that song. It just clause made more sense. Just on the scene. Just trust me. Yeah. Anything you think like, oh, they should have done that. Daddy tried. I swear. So I'm watching myself and this thing that did happen to me over and over again on the Internet. And I was like going to bed and I'm like, why do I feel absolutely heartbroken right now? And yeah, so it's because I couldn't stop watching fan edits. Of course. But when I watch the one of you in the finale, I won't spoil too much. They just in case like I'm going to give you guys a one more week. One more week. But when we're done. When it's episode two of season three of ride, you have to know what's happened in the show. Yeah. But when you have a conversation with Peter in the finale and they have that moment and then it's like, boom, boom. Here's what I want to say to everyone right now. I didn't know two things that Mary Beth was doing on set one. I didn't know she was eye rolling in every single scene. I'm up. Eye rolls are back. They're so back. Like that is so let women roll their eyes. It's one of the most powerful things a woman could do. It's the most fun. It's the most fun a woman can have without taking her clothes off. Exactly. And I didn't know Mary Beth played the character as gay. And I have never been sent so many like I can't stress enough how strange it's been to have made something for like six years and then now have people tell me what they think of it or what they think I'm trying to say or what's going to happen next. Yeah. I'm obsessed with it, but I'm also like bleep it. But I'm also like, wait, that is such a that was not a conscious choice. It's such an interpretation. People, look, you make a piece of media, you put it out to the world and people see what they want to see. And I think the fan edits of like Mimi and Grace being Endgame or people shipping Carmen and Grace. Endgame. OK, Carmen and Grace like that one I might have to see through, you know, like there was one tweet that was like, so I thought this bitch was a homo, but she's actually just gone. Yeah, I'm like, it's totally. I'm just feeling great. Fuckhead. Yeah. Imagine people who just watch the show and now they're listening to this. I would say maybe start from the top. I've had a few people DM me and go, I just started listening to the podcast. I think I need to start from the beginning. And I say it's very layered. It's very layered. And I'm sure you could enjoy it with no context of anything we say just because, you know, we're giggling and we're having fun, but it's just more enjoyable and you can sort of see the levels of it. Do other pods not do callbacks? It's kind of all we do. I don't think so. I had to say. I don't think they do. Oh, just felt a full driplet from my armpits down my ribcage. Yes. I love it. Are you attracted to me? Welcome to Dante's Inferno. I sent you. There is that one TikTok that you guys do where you open the beer can and I screenshot it and I said, I'm attracted to you here. I am. I have also straight women in my life texting me saying, why do I have a crush on Benny right now? I have agents texting me saying, Mary Beth looks really good in this show. We'll talk about it after. We'll offline later. Okay. We'll offline later. Hey, let's just say it's poaching season. It's poaching season. And I want to say there was some concern expressed on the Reddit. We opened up the DM. We opened up the DMs on Ride the Pod to ask us anything. People are worried that we're going to like not be relatable anymore because we're in a TV show. I mean, yeah, we're totally different. No. Society still views us as a woman and a gay man. So it's like the experience will be the same. No. Gays on Twitter will always keep me humble. They will always start their review with, I don't know why everyone's hating on the show so much. I loved it. I'm like, you're the one hating. Don't. You don't have to say that. No. Or they'll just be like, I really wanted to fucking despise this television. I'm like. Why? I wanted to fucking hate the show because I hate everything it stands for and everyone in it. But it kind of won me over. But it kind of slaps. That's the new straight boyfriend saying they were actually pretty funny. Exactly. But then I have straight guys kind of being sweet about it. I don't know. The world's confusing, but I think we've all been told to hate ourselves and hate each other so much. Can't fault anyone. I can't fault anyone. There's a couple of things I'd like to set the record straight on. Please. And then we'll get into questions from our girls. So we are really best friends. And I think we've proved that. Finally. Because JR, our trainer this morning. Goes, y'all really love each other. He said this to me and it was kind of like he had just come to this conclusion. He's like, you guys really root for each other. And I'm like, could you imagine if I didn't? If this was all for show. My mom said. I'm pissed you're getting fan edits. My mom said after seeing you hold your hand under my mouth while milk was dripping out and my crying on FaceTime, she said, I'm ready to adopt Benito whenever. And I'm ready for it. And he's ready. I said he's ready. God, I love that woman. I was going to ride for her solely her this season. And I think I'm going to. But I think if we do that, I just want to do it with her. I know, which we'd have to coordinate schedule. She's very busy. You know, we couldn't book Terry for this. We could not. We tried. We tried in several different cities. Can I say it would have been easier to get the three Heim sisters here. And we still might. And we still might. We still might do women in music business month. On the other thing. That's my impression of the Vulture article asking what year. Can we finally talk about it? We have to talk about this. OK, I'm sorry. I'm obsessed. I want to. Give this person a hug. Here's my answer, because I have been asked this now on the street and in line at Shake Shack at JFK. So obviously the show is heavily inspired by early to mid 2010s. Of course, when you were in college, when I was in college. And thank you to all the gay interviewers who have reminded me that I am not currently the age of the character that I play on TV, sir. Which I just say, I love everything. I love everyone. Press is press. I have gratitude. When I wrote the pilot, it was specifically 2016 because there were a few references like and then it just became kind of a nightmare to make sure every reference was in the time period. And also, it's really expensive to get old products, old cars, make sure that there's nothing in a scene that could even be like slightly a year after because, you know, Reddit would kill us. Vulture would. One, two, three. Kill us. And so these are just things we thought about. And also, we thought if we made it too intensely, like it's just this year, that maybe people in college right now wouldn't want to watch. And people who had graduated 20, 30 years ago would have been like, I can't access this. Right. I don't know what they're talking about. We wanted it to feel like kind of a nostalgic bubble. And that's kind of the vibe. Anywhere USA. Anytime. Pre-pandemic. Pre-Trump. Pre-COVID. And you know what? You know what year it is. Come on. Just give me. Hey, can I just say, just give me a kiss. But. Would you just give me a kiss? Jackson, just give me a kiss. And here's. - Here's one other thing. I'll say it's fun for us to be able to play in this like sort of unknown time and space, because then you can have jokes about Ashley Simpson, but you can also have jokes about Alison Roman's clams. Exactly. And it's like, can I just say this? And I will say this directly to camera. Has anything ever mattered less? Could anything matter less than when the year is set? Is that really detracting from your enjoyment of the comedy? I have an answer in the front. Our ages. I don't think anything could matter. Here's the thing on this note. I just want to clarify this. I love this platform. Well, that's the thing, because I feel like most people that create a TV show don't also have a podcast where they could respond directly to what's being said in the discourse. But I think it's good that we're talking about it because, again, with the whole like turn your ops into opportunities, I'm like, why do we have to ignore the fact that these reviews are out there? Like, I want to talk about it. Me too. And I'm also like, I'm I'm listening. I'm hearing you. And also in a perfect world, if I could just make like a period piece and it's like you have no budget, no, like everyone is like all hands on deck. We're doing it. Of course, that'd be amazing. But I think that, yeah, I didn't want to limit audiences. And I also like, productions are really difficult and a collaborative process. And these are all conversations. Like, just to be clear, of course, a lot of thought has been put into every single detail about the show. I think we join a long line of American classics where the actors are playing characters that are not their age. OK, Glee, The O.C., American Pie, Gossip Girl, Girl, Grease, Euphoria, Outer Banks. Like, I just I get what you're saying. But at the same time, I think I wanted it to live in this Y2K, nostalgic, sweaty, nasty American fantasy. But then we make it gay and actually like write women who have storylines and have brains and have sexual autonomy and sexualize themselves and all the characters sexualize themselves. And I think all of us having space from that time in our life allows both audiences and us to be more comfortable seeing this on screen. I do think the discourse, I've seen a slight shift in that. It's like people being like, I wouldn't want younger actors to play these parts and they wouldn't be able to nail the like millennial cringe of that time period. I was not ready to make fun of myself in this way when I was even 25 when I wrote it. Right. I think I still would have been like, I didn't really do that. And now I'm like, no, I did. This is how I spoke. And let's go for it. Well, Vicky saw a comment in response to someone saying we look too old. And the person goes, you know, the zombies in The Last of Us aren't real, right? You know, those aren't real zombies. And I can't stress, if you can't suspend disbelief, like go watch The Housewives or something like there's so much on TV. You can watch zombies, but you can't watch people in their 30s play college kids. I don't know. Figure your shit out. Don't come to me with that bullshit. Can't we just have a little fun? And yet I say again, give me a kiss. And please first, no, first find something in your house to stick up your ass. Well, of course. And then give me a kiss. And I just, I literally took two seconds. I see, I see three, three to 10 things. Benny season two. Benny, what's he looking for? Okay. So the song on, everyone's lips. Can we talk about the black parade? Can I talk about that day really quick? Yeah. And then we haven't answered any questions. We're going to have to do that next episode. Okay. We're going to, that's fine. Yeah. I have never been so proud of someone in my life. Mary Beth did ask for vocal lessons and we said, no, they said we want it to be bad. We like how you did in the audition. I go, thanks. I didn't want you to be good. It's not Grace's audition to better have my money. No. Well, it's so funny because someone actually in the AMA said this, I want to find it. They go and be, how hard was it to sing on camera? I was so proud of you, but I know you didn't want to do that. It's really beautiful. Desiree, the director, we love you girl. That day. I remember she came over to me and I wasn't in any scenes that day. It was literally the one day I didn't have scenes, which was so, I was so sick, but it was like something cosmically, like I didn't make the schedule. So I really was like, Oh, this feels right. And I show up to set and then I'm talking with Desiree and we're about to the scene. And then she was like, it was actually this very special moment where she came over and she's like, that's your best friend. You should just go talk to her. Oh, goosebumps. No, I know. And I just got to go crazy and shout things out to you. And it was so fun. It was so fun. It was terrifying. Like it was toward the end of the shoot. So I did feel like I was sort of like, you know, anticipating it the entire time. And I was really nervous that I wasn't going to be able to deliver on it. It was like a really cathartic moment for the character, but having you there was just all I needed. And even though they had the wrong track and I had to sing the song with AirPods in and black tape and all of the actors in the room were hearing silence and me singing. Wally's face. I mean, that was a genuine reaction. That's just Wally. She could not believe it. She was looking over at me like, Oh my, she's like, this bitch is going feral right now that day we shot a scene that got cut at the blow dry bar. And I was like crying about some personal stuff. I had a really tough like start to that day. And so then to get to go on stage and just like leave it. And it was so hot too. Like me taking off my turtleneck. It was damp. I did throw it into the crowd. That was a real response to the temperature. It's the only time I've ever been warm. I'm cold right now for what it's worth. To be cold right now. If I showed you, but thank you for everyone. I mean, I still can't watch the scene with sound yet. I'm too scared, but one day I will. I'm scared. It's just like, it's perfect. It's exactly what I wanted. Like, I've never had more fun writing a scene and I was doing my like steps on a treadmill. You know, that's how I think. And I just kind of do my little oof doing steps on a treadmill without an Apple watch. That's Amore. Yeah. So I was doing my steps and that song came on shuffle. Cause I bet I just listened to like songs from that era. And I don't, I've never known something so quick that that was what you were going to do. You had the vision because the episode was initially going to be Adele. Hello. And it was going to be like, maybe I do karaoke, but then once it locked in for, I was like, oh no, I'm in a bar fight. And someone posted us at the Thanksgiving table and they go definition yeah. And thank you for saying that off daughter, actually. Yeah. Lesbian icon, lesbian LGBTQ plus community member. Should we get into what we ride for? I mean, we're going to talk about the show a lot in this season of ride and it's just fun and we hope you enjoy it. And you know what? Also, sometimes like, I think maybe some Baroni's would have watched the show and been like, not for me. And that's fine. I'm so proud of it. And this sounds so fake, but I got a few messages from the gay people. I needed it to hit. And I think not even just gay people, but people who feel so heartbroken and sad and lonely. And I think we did it kid. I, and I, I feel really grateful and I feel very privileged to have done that and to get to do it. With my bestie, my bestie Lamora overcompensating. That was a joke. Okay. So the, that just happened. Riley text was an was we did in post and it was a surprise for Mary Beth. But the mocktails line was huge. All we said that day was you just read a text. That was really brutal. And I go, I think I got this. I have some life experience to draw from easy. And I think we should do like, I don't know. I think I got this. And I think we should do like, I think I got this. And I think we should do like, at some point we should just go through like all the episodes and say, cause my high school friends called me cause they were all away this past weekend. And they, we were going through like all this stuff that they loved, which was truly like every detail about the show. And so many of the details just like have a story. And so it would be fun one day to do like an oral history of season one. Maybe on this one. Yeah. I think we've already talked about this, but when I had just filmed the scene with cigars with Wally outside on campus at university of Toronto, we love you. We miss you. Please let us shoot during the year. This is a PSA. And I go over to take a break and eat my apple with peanut butter and Lorna, we love you. Makeup department. Now we're talking about this. She starts filming me and I'm like, what's going on? I'm filming you. Literally the show is so I'm filming you and I'm like, what's going on? And you pop up and you go, I need to speak to the gay man in charge. You looked so much like Alice, Alice Collin. Everything I was resistant to that you pushed me to do. I ended up being like my best mom on my gravestone. It will say spent his life trying to show the world. Mary Beth Perrone's range. I swear to God is my last. That is I've done it doing what he loved. Yeah. I knew my dad would come back. That's me. I knew Mary Beth Perrone would show the world. She has no, I've been underestimated in every job I've ever had, except by you. And there could be a hundred gay guys in a room and 99 of them don't believe in you. All you need is one to believe in you. And hey, you've got two here today with me and Jackson because I'm the luckiest woman in the world. Okay. What do you write for a kid this week? I'm writing for stating the obvious and I'm writing for the 50 shades soundtracks. Hey everyone. It's Mary Beth here. And these are the very first ads of season three of ride the pod. So first up, we have an old favorite Squarespace. This podcast. Oh my God. Sponsored by Squarespace. Squarespace is the all-in-one website platform for entrepreneurs to stand out and succeed online. 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Oh, we didn't say, oh, now you three me because it's season three. All right. Now we've got that. Now we have it in. Yeah, we have that. Love me like you do. That song to me, you put that on headphones like AirPods and you get the alert that you've been listening to music too loud this week and you've got to turn it down. When I see that, I go, who do you work for? Who started you on? What? Oh, hey, Tim Cook. Nice try. Tim Cook NY. While we're on the subject. Oh, what are you going to say about Tim Cook? What did you do to the camera? Why does it take five second delay on my photos? And why is it so fucking hard to turn the flash on when I give my phone to a random gay guy to take a photo of me, who, by the way, I love and that's my family. And he has to tap around for five fucking minutes. If a gay guy, if a gay guy can't find flash, you've done something wrong. Steve Jobs is literally rolling. He's rolling. He's pissed. Why did you do that? Why did you talk to Grant Pottery right now? They're having a word. Yes. The first 50 shades. I have to say this. I watched it with my mom. And after she goes, that wasn't that nasty. I cranked my head almost 180 back. I go, okay, you nasty bitch. Shit. Oh, fucking shit, dude. Yeah. And sorry. 50 shades is kind of the story of Sebastian. I want to show you something, something unbelievable. And it's this playroom. Okay. Keep reading me tracks. Cause yeah, it was kind of like hunger games where the first one had like a song or two, but then by the end it was like, we had full origin. Don't call me angel. Well, call me anything. But we have Zayn on here. We have to value John legend. We have the dream. We have my favorite song from any 50 shade soundtrack is capital letters by Haley Steinfeld and blood pop capital letters. Hayes Hayes God sinners sinners Haley Steinfeld. Please make more music. We're ready. Whenever you are. I feel like we'll talk about sinners season five. It's just too much right now. There's a lot. I'm going to add to my list. Okay. So the second one to me, 50 shades freed. It doesn't, I mean, it has capital letters and I love it so much, but I think like they weren't quite there yet. I think it's all a build. Of course the soundtracks tantalizing yet again, but I don't think we've gotten into, you know, the juggernaut that is, I don't want to live forever. Right? So this song, Taylor Swift and Zayn, if you will, I have yet to find a better song on earth, except talking body. Yeah. Oh God. Yeah. I do think that's the best song that's ever been made. I wouldn't disagree with you. And we still need to make the playlist of the best songs ever made. Now, if we're talking body, you've got a perfect one. So put it on me. Swear. It won't take you long. If you love me, right. It won't take you long for life. We'll fuck for life on and on and on. And another thing on my tombstone, Hollywood forever cemetery, Mary best range. We fuck for life and death. Grandpa Terry, this Zayn and Taylor Swift song, there's a music video for it. It's just crazy that this was given to a film. You know what I mean? Absolutely. Like a real movie. And to me, like sometimes the soundtracks can be even bigger than the film. My favorite is when like an incredible song is given to something and they play it in the credits. Yeah. It's like, Oh, perfect. But I just, you're in the theater. You start to hear these and you're like, no, that's what I'm talking about. And Christian gray, lay it on her. Like, let's do this. I think music, unfortunately, because it has become so expensive in much of the media that we consume today and don't, I know it and you know, it, it's just, it's sort of like not prioritized. And I understand, like, as we've said, like productions cost so much money, but I mean, this is just huge for me, but I think it just like when I heard love in this club and hustlers, that moment kind of changed me. I can picture you in the theater. I was freaking. Yeah. Oh, and you can picture what Christian's doing. He's putting a little blindfold over. And he's putting a feather up her back. Yeah. Sticking a plug up her ass. And giving her anal beads. To wear to dinner. I love that they emailed these artists and they're like, we would love for you to write a song for the movie. We're thinking about putting it to this scene where he presents her with a beaded thong that goes inside her pussy and then he'll take it out later with his mouth. So, hey, whatever you want to do with that inspo, just let us know. I said, "I think I have the perfect thing for that." So they email the Jonas Brothers parents and they say, hey, we need a track. Yeah. I don't know what's happening in the scene in the movie. I haven't seen it in a while. He's showing her his sex closet, his sex room, his sex dungeon. He's just showing her whole. His sex wing. Yeah. He's showing her the bussy. And Nick Jonas says, I've got this song with Nicki Minaj if you want it. Like it's on my hard drive. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I, I can't even, this song. I think I was still in the closet when this came out. So imagine how hard that was for me. Yeah. Wait, no, I don't think so. Maybe I wasn't. What year did this come out? There's no way of knowing. Yeah. Sorry. Well, actually, maybe I was out. You heard this song and you said, I have to come out. I have to come out today. Mom, dad. Get in here. I got to talk to you before dinner. Jackson's shirtless right now. Yeah. Jackson just snapped his thong. Okay. Here we go. Ready? Wow. Stop. Because I'm the one who has sex with you. No, I know. Christian's pissing on her to this. Woo. Okay. So I have to do Nicki's verse. Jackson's playing with his nipples right now. Woo. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. He said if he can't hit my bullseye, he'd rather die. He put a dummy bandage on any other guy. He said he need a bad bitch for the alibi. Give me the money, the gun, the pesos. Sex me in Turks and Caicos. Keep going. Yeah, of course. The sleigh hose. Here it goes. I'm pushing a great ghost. Now assume the position when you see a bad one. The D's so good, he just got an N-1. I'm about to blow and I ain't talking Samsung. I'm about to show them what I do with that tongue. And this was very current because Samsungs were blowing up in people's pockets. Okay. Nicki's nothing if she's not relevant. Topical. Topical, of course. Okay, well. So all I'm saying is I want original tracks if we get to do season two. Really? I want originals. I want go through the hard drive. I want XCX world. You know what I really want? Is that Lorde song I played for you on the sidewalk in Toronto? I know. I know. Precious metals. And that was when I realized if a straight guy is showing you a video on his phone, it could be anything. If a gay guy is showing you a video on his phone, it's fucking time sensitive. Because you wouldn't do that unless it was urgent. Of course not. I would never interrupt a conversation to show you a video on my phone. No, but you had to. And in that moment, I realized how many times a straight man has done that to me and how few times a gay man has done that to me. Do you remember recently when I played you that video of the woman going, here's another. I have a fucking lesson for you, fucking bitch. Here's another. You still have to do that. Yeah, I know. Gayle King asked me on CBS Mornings what TikTok was in my head, and that went through my head. You said that one. What did you end up saying? I said it. I couldn't help it. I had to tell her the truth. You don't lie to Gayle King. No, you can't. You can't because she'll know. Yeah. This episode is brought to you by NoCD. Picture this. You're going about your day when suddenly a horrifying thought flashes through your mind. 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Oh, my God. Oh, sorry. We were doing ads. I'll see you later. He's scaring me so much every time he does that. In this book, which I truly read in one day, it was a Friday night, and I cracked it open. I thought, I'm going to read a few chapters. I actually could not put it down. Dylan pulls back the curtain of her egg girl lifestyle with a witness. Pretty and intimate reflection of her life pre- and post-transition. This book is so funny. It's heartfelt. It's earnest. It is powerfully honest, and it's an account of Dylan Mulvaney's journey through girlhood and a love letter to everyone who stands up for queer joy. I know someone who stands up for queer joy over Compensating's Benny drama. An instant New York Times bestseller and this spring and summer's must-read memoir. If you're looking for a gift for someone who is a total bookworm, I would say pick up a copy. Pick up a copy of Paper Doll and get one for yourself too because you're going to love it. Buy your copy of this spring and summer's must-read memoir. Paper Doll Notes from a Late Bloomer by Dylan Mulvaney. It is available wherever books are sold. I can't say enough good things about this book. Benny and I both read it, actually, separately. I would have loved if we could read it to each other, but we weren't in the same place. So just buy this book and read it. My God, it's a beach read. You just kick back, relax when you go on your little summer holidays and enjoy the book. And of course, if you're not following Dylan Mulvaney on social media, are you even on social media? So I want to ride for stating the obvious because I do feel like in our society, stating the obvious has become sort of frowned upon. Like almost it's a negative thing to just say the thing that we're all thinking. But I actually think we need to embrace it more and it comes into that idea of amplifying instead of adding to. So it can be so simple too. Like I remember when Edward and I broke up, I was talking to someone and he just said to me, breakups can be really hard. And I thought, hell yeah. And you know what? And say that. Say that and don't say anymore. No. You don't actually have to say anymore. No, baby, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh. No, it's like, it can be so beautiful to just be having a conversation with someone and they just state the obvious. Things are really hard right now. Imagine just being at a dinner with someone and they drop that on you and you go, yes, that's what I was thinking. You know who does this the most in my life? Who? You. Oh, wow. I'm serious. I didn't even know that. It's you and I would say close second, because Terry will just be like, this is what this is. And sometimes you're like, oh, I maybe didn't need to hear that one, but I appreciate it. But unfortunately you did. You might not know you did, but you did. Like this. But yeah, I totally agree. Also, another person who does a lot is J.R. Mendoza. My trainer, he'll just be like, you must be so overwhelmed. Go easy on yourself. Yeah. And I went, absolutely. You know what? Stating the obvious can really make people feel seen. I agree. It can really make people feel seen. And I feel like even with J.R., yeah. And he is a straight man, as we've said on this podcast tons of times. But I was talking to him about something and he just goes, you're so real. Fuck. That's like today where he just goes, you're best friends. Yeah. Like you're really best friends. And I'm like, yeah, I didn't even think about it. No. Mind you, at this time, I'm pushing a sled. I'm like, can we talk about it after? Right. You're like, yeah. There's 150 pounds on this sled right now. And yeah. But yes, we are. And yes, my ass will be even bigger in season two. It better be. We need Benny more. More cakes than ever. Yes. Oh, that's one thing I. OK, people keep asking me, what are you sad you had to cut? Yeah. And there was a scene where Adam and I talked about it before and where he's spanking me. Fun fact for that. He spanked me so hard. I had a welt on my butt. We didn't know that the foam paddle had a wood skeleton. It was a rod. It had a rod in it. And I didn't want to ruin the take because I'm a total professional. Yeah. He said, like, how hard do you want me to go? And I'm like, I mean, it should feel like you're a frat guy. Like, let's go. But in one take, he I don't even know how this came about. I think we were just talking about it. And he just whispers in my ear in the take. Damn, Benny, you're caked up. And unfortunately, just in every iteration of it, it seemed like then Peter and I would fuck. We don't need any more queer allegations. Yeah, exactly. I'm like, there's a couple straight characters. I'll be honest. We just have to have some straight ones. Yeah. And in that moment, he stated the obvious. Of course. And I think when he hit you with the paddle that had wood in it that you weren't aware of and you said that hurt, stating the obvious. But sometimes you just have to put the sentiment out there. And I think, yeah, it's that thing of like when when someone's talking to me about the show and they're like, wow, this must be so exciting and it must be just like so emotional for you. And I'm like, yeah. Or even something so simple as your hair is so long. When people would say stuff like that to me, I'd be like, that's kind of crazy that you just said that. But it is long. And maybe we should talk about it. I wish I didn't feel as good as I feel when people tell me my hair grows fast. But for some reason, like few things feel better to me than that, you know. And it's just important to hear that stuff sometimes. - So even if you think something goes without saying, yeah and we've talked on this podcast a lot about things that go without saying but sometimes you need to just state the obvious so it's really the counterpoint to it goes without saying is just stating the obvious like sometimes when we're talking about a piece of media like you know i could refer to even we could say with the zane song it's like it does go without saying that i don't think you should punch your mother-in-law no of course or have allegedly punched your mother-in-law yeah but to state the obvious you shouldn't punch your mother-in-law yeah and to state the obvious what a banger a total banger oh my god and i even associate pillow talk as being on a 50 shade soundtrack because that's how good the song that's how good the song is okay so i was in the closet when that came out and i was putting headphones sorry sorry i need a timeline of benny drama's life yeah all the media that came out before you were out and i need to think about how fucking tight your butthole must have been and how much you were talking about sweat drip down because wow you had that you were in the closet when legally blonde came out no i know you were in the closet when legally blonde came out no i know you were in the closet when legally you were in the closet when mean girls came out you remind me of the bend and snap guy and i was like what the what the fuck you fucking say some shit like that are you fucking kidding me right now dude you remind me of clay aiken i was like that queer i know you didn't just say clay aiken oh my god i literally would listen i was so in love with this straight man i would put my freaking headphones and i'd listen to pillow talk and i'd be like come on don't you want to fuck me sorry i just i had to do that just to get sweat just to another area of my body yeah so just the exact same song is jealous by nick jonas and again i was in the closet i am walking down the aisle to that track it's crazy that when i was doing soul cycle to jealous i was in the soul cycle class on the bike you were somewhere when i'm in new york city at the studio soul cycle yeah you were somewhere out in the world in the closet still breaks my heart breaks my heart and your media also i'm in the closet still breaks my heart breaks my heart breaks my heart breaks my heart i want to shout out baroni hq doing god's work how do i even i mean so i would have her move in with me and the door is open the door is can we just say we would love to have you living in our house and in many ways you do because you live in our hearts and just huge shout out i mean there's certain sentiments i've been feeling lately that i actually can't put into words like how proud i am of you how appreciative i am of baroni hq like things like that just like feeling grateful and so i just want to say like nothing we could ever verbalize would communicate our gratitude but we love you so much and we love all of you all the baronies all of our kids we love them equally i also just want to talk to baroni hq your ability to get a getty image without the watermark you are you're literally better than and i hey i love our publicists that's the only difference you're going to see this season occasionally we might reference a publicist but i could not i saw pictures from the premiere from her before anything i was like it was before that we'd even left the venue i hadn't even done approvals i go i know i know but she does not choose a bad image of us and so we just want to think of you we're thinking of all of our girls keep telling your friends about overcompensating keep streaming it you can watch as many times as you want there's no rules about how many times you can watch it and you know what sometimes you can turn it off before the sad part you know what i mean now that you know you can do an atonement exactly you can do an atonement you can do a star is born where you cut after snl because it's so exciting that ali was at snl ladies and gentlemen ali don't watch the grammys i'm so gonna bradley cooper you at the grammys when you win a grammy i piss on stage yeah palsy just gave you the award exactly you go hell yeah i say let's make a freaking and say that you must have really had to pee that's what you're gonna say i say i've been there you know what a really good stating the obvious that i love in any of the like press things i've done is this must have been so special to do with your best friend it's almost not obvious because i'm just like i can't believe that in the end we did it kid in the end it always really look a lot like it always does and thank god i hope we get to do season two you all will be the first to know and there's so much to be said with our story that's something that i'm really excited about i feel that's one of the things i'm most inspired by it's like carmen's parents and that are just like in my head non-stop yeah again i don't have words to express how special it's been to do this with you and just to get to even work with you it's like yeah it's an honor to read the scripts and be like she's a lesbian i'm playing to read the scripts and go so that's someone that's attracted women so i'm yeah yeah i think that makes hey if there was any question about your sexuality i mean i know that like a lot of people they hear bye and they go yeah right girl and and i think i play a straight woman yeah everyone's kind of like to me she kind of spilled dude yeah you know what you are marybeth bisexual well yeah but you're also my ride or die ride or die we could do a quick ride or die i know that you die for this in a way i well i ride for it exactly and exactly so much so you almost die i almost die for it i ride so hard for the 50 shade soundtrack again i think soundtracks we need to bring them back because like i need original songs i need fake pop music best case we get fake pop music second best case we get some original songs third best case just give me bangers then fine fine i'll take bangers i'll take love in this club exactly yellow on the pole it doesn't have to be a new track i just think it's so cool like and i'll probably ride later for the hunger game soundtrack that lord curated for catching fire because i think it's one of the best moments in culture personally yellow flicker beats i mean i could have done that today but it's like 50 shades felt like there's so much there's such a correlation between 50 shades in this podcast catalog yeah of course totally because you're so sexual exactly i so right for stating the obvious it feels so good to just hear things lately and also i think we're all so in our heads sometimes it's nice to just be like oh whoa someone else thought this yes someone just acknowledged might not be obvious and i think that's what's powerful kid i agree so state the obvious today put it into practice it's like when they teach the word sporadically and clueless sometimes after a ride i'm like you should use this today just like see how it feels to state the obvious and if someone gives you shit for it and they go no shit sherlock you go wow i can see a lot of stuff you have to work through exactly it's all right here speaking of that i would say also just put in the 50 shades set there's a playlist on spotify that will of course post or baroni hq will beat us to it play it in the car i don't care if your kids are in it like i think it's these are great tracks annie lennox like my friend's daughter walked in she's like five and she walked in on the edward 40 hand scene and just stood there for 12 minutes so she stayed through the ass eating scene hey can i say that's some good tv traditional family values her daughter goes she drank a lot of water and she's like oh my god she's like oh my god she's drinking so fast oh if anyone knew that it was monsooning during that scene and that there was a rig but this is why we need an oral history we'll do so much we love you so much all of the baronies and new listeners old listeners like we you know welcome to the family welcome to our video podcast and welcome oh my god we do video now yeah that's huge for season three just watch this yeah i hope our faces looked good the entire time you don't know and we're not aware of our bodies because we're so used to not having video that we're gonna learn a lot from these first few yeah i think we are and people will tell us yeah i just love you kat so that just happened oh my exit benny babe eyes in the road please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.