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Starts of the Week + Week 4 Games, Cat Fight! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 10/1

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Starts of the Week + Week 4 Games, Cat Fight! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 10/1

The podcast delivers a comprehensive fantasy football analysis for Week 4, focusing on key player starts, injury updates, and matchup dynamics. Major developments include Pukinakua’s return, which shifts wide receiver strategies and elevates the value of players like McMillan and Ted McMillan. Weather conditions, especially for Sunday Night Football, are noted as critical factors in start decisions. The hosts evaluate wide receivers such as Mike Evans, Jaylen Waddle, and Tyler Schuck, emphasizing their health and situational performance. Key matchups like the Bengals, Packers, and Rams are highlighted, with high over-under projections suggesting explosive scoring. Injury reports for players like Jalen Coker, Devonte Adams, and Makai Limit are discussed, influencing depth chart decisions. The team debates whether to start Darren Waller or Tucker Craft in Detroit, citing defensive weaknesses and injury risks. Trade potential is also explored, with DJ Moore viewed as a high-impact, injury-resilient asset and Devonte Adams as a stable long-term value. Overall, the analysis underscores the importance of flexibility, matchup context, and player health in shaping strategic decisions. The discussion reflects the volatility of early-season fantasy football, where player availability and game environments can drastically alter performance expectations.

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Welcome to the Fantasy Footballer's podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Oh, welcome in! It's about time! New graphics! We got new stuff! I got a little nervous, you weren't going to remember to do it. Did you have to time that up? I mean, he just hit the block. Does he have the possibility? Yeah, I was a little late, I'll be honest. Okay, he wasn't happy with it. We'll lock it in. So you've broken out the graphics for Steelers Browns, huh? It's the first time you want to break them out. That's right, for our Watson Rogers. Upcoming dominant Cleveland Browns victory. Yes, Mike! Oh, man, what could go wrong? Wow, is that the game we've got the money on? Yeah, we've got the money on. You can't keep track of how much stuff you've got money on. Can you? It's literally the only thing I have money on right now. Okay, fair enough. Well, we do get football tonight. And the week four of this season begins, so. It'll be fun. Week four is a fun week, because after that is. You start to feel like, okay, we're getting a handle on. What's going on with these defenses, who we actually have to target? I know, I've been a liar. You also start by weeks next week. Yeah. Yeah, that's interesting. Yeah, we have like some fun Sunday Monday Night matchups, too. Like, I think it's Lions Carolina on Sunday Night Football. Was that Sunday night? Yeah. Was that game's going to have approximately two bajillion points? That's Sunday night. And, yeah, Carolina's defense, not good. She would get corned up. Yeah, I'm excited. Are you excited? Because I have like Gibbs and Almond Rogan see that night. Because we're playing each other. Are you excited about that? No, that part I'm not. I mean, I'm excited to watch the game. On Monday Night Football, you have. I have Tyler Schuck, Bijan, and Devon Valet. Yeah, I'm not excited about that. I'm excited for the game. So that's fantasy football on the nutshell. But it should be a fun week. Join the foot.com is the community, the ultimate dashboard. We announced yesterday we have in season or really year round now. We have dynasty startup rankings. You can drag a little slider to win now versus, you know, long term or balanced or whatever you want to do to evaluate dynasty trades, including the trade analyzer and stuff like that. You can check it out at join the foot.com website is the fantasy footballers.com. We're going to jump into the news. News and notes from around the league. Oh, I didn't see this. Thurson and I football Steelers have ruled out running back Riko Dowdell. Yeah. I had last seen that they were thinking he was going to be back. So it'll be all Jaylen Warren tonight. Sean McVase, that he expects Pukinakua to play in week four against the Eagles. Okay. That's great news for all Pukin managers as someone who has the Higbee Ferguson combo everywhere. I'm like, oh, man. But glad he's healthy. Yeah. That does change the equation for the like spot start of Mr. Higbee. Yeah. He might have been dropped in many leagues this morning. Yeah. That news changes things. Jaylen Waddle practicing in full despite the report of a precautionary walking boot. Mike Evans did not practice on Wednesday. The news from their general manager, John Lynch was that he's going to do everything you can to play through everything you can. Because I don't know, probably at his age, he has to play through something all the time. You're telling me he's going to do everything. Not just most of the things. I think he's going to try to do everything. What a guy, Mike Evans. So let's say you're getting Pukinakua back, right? You're one of those managers. You can make accommodations for Pukinakua. Let's just say the two wide receivers that you had in at the time were Ted McMillan and James and Williams. To somewhat underperforming draft picks. Who would you put Pukinakua in over? This week, in less weather changes. Both are managing the show. I like to play each other. Yeah, I really like Tedaroa this week. So long as the weather is okay. I mean, obviously the weather's going to be the same for both of them. So I would prefer McMillan this week. Yeah, I see a little rainy, rainy on Sunday night football. It should easily be McMillan. Right. Yeah. Oh, man, that second half was. Cokeers going to be out. It should be. It should be a lot of McMillan this week. We don't. We just know that Jalen Cokeer didn't practice Wednesday. He hasn't been ruled out yet. Correct. Yeah. I think he'll be out. Justin Jefferson considered day to day did not practice on Wednesday. And then Jalen Cokeer, like you said, didn't practice on Wednesday either. But that's all we have by way of news. Not too much today. Let's jump into the starts. Starts of the week brought to you by Apple card. All right, boys, I'll kick it off here at the wine receiver position. Well, I'll make McMillan. Okay. I see what it is. It is my style. Is that really what it is? Yes, okay. It is. You really slow played your excitement for him in the last segment. Yeah. I kind of liked it, guys. We as Lee is a little lead in. No, but seriously, play him. Tenerola and McMillan people are very disappointed had I am very disappointed. Yeah. And I get it. But the reason you're disappointed is because he's a really good player and he's not showing it. The utilization has still been pretty good. 23% first read target share. He's had four red zone targets. Three in zone targets. Those are very valuable. Unfortunately, hasn't come down with the touchdowns. This just happens. The help is in the way of the Lions past defense. 29th of fantasy points allowed to wide receivers. 29th of receptions allowed. 29th of receiving yards allowed there. They are a great matchup. And Tenerola and McMillan, I think what's happened is Jalen Coker looks awesome. Yeah. And so now we have to hate Tenerola and McMillan. And we don't. No, no, no. I'm saying as a people. As a people, that's the vibe that I'm getting. I think I see that out there. I see like because I think maybe I think Jalen Coker is better than Tenerola and McMillan. Now people are like crappin' all over, like he's bad. He's not a bad wide receiver. He's all alone. It's a perfect matchup. I can't imagine not starting him again. Pay attention to the weather. It sucks that it's a Sunday night game for weather. But there is a world where maybe you would flip off of him. But if the weather's not prohibitive. Currently, showering overcast in my own. That's fine. So far. Last night, so I was like five mile an hour wind. That's fine. Dude. Big dome. If that Sunday night matchup gets ruined by weather. Big dome is, we're droppin' the hammer. Not just gonna be ruined for two mere Gibbs. Don't be fine, Mike. Maybe. Well, and the legal leader in passing yards. This isn't a domed problem. This is a El Nino problem. It's a super El Nino year. You build domes just for one like 100 year event. Yeah, I am. Yeah, for sure. El Nino doesn't have that. I'm gonna have to do that. I have Josh Allen because me and your boy know we were point number two. I draft the Tyler shock But then it's like you know you know how it gets you like do I want to back up quarterback or I want to shot at a better potential Tratable asset now he would have been the best. I mean it was just it is funny that you nobody wanted him for me after week one by the way Yeah, your team especially that guy back there Al Borland your team is like but now I can't root form because I'm playing I don't want him to succeed for you the only squads. That could be like Tyler Shuck is my backup Yes, he's the Kubi 3 correct the only person that there's only two other teams like Amazing for you because the only person that could ever drop Tyler Shuck is to do with Josh Allen and now I don't get a root for the guy I like and drafted we rise up do I get a ring if you win the title. I'll send you a note. Okay It's a good start Sam Darnold at the chart or versus the chargers. Oh boy. I talked about this the chargers They they lose a tough one the again and you know force five turnovers and their reward is they go into Seattle To play a team in Seattle that lost and champions respond to losses in a different way It's the hardest place to go play somehow Sam Darnold in his defeat last week 79 and four. I mean finished as the QB one Chargers defense was carved up by Kurt Cousins and Darnold at home It just looks too juicy like I don't normally want to go to the Darnold level necessarily But I think this week people have had injuries you drop Drake may you've you've I've got to leave I'm playing Sam Darnold I it makes sense to me this week. I dropped Kyler and because Sam Darnold was there. I'm struggling because I think I was the Drake major or I don't know. It's a save quarterback. It's a safe play. That's the fine thing. It's the safest play this week There's nobody playing better than JSN right now. Oh my god. That's exactly why Darnold is fine because JSN is there and He's why did you see the number like 50% of the yards again? It's ridiculous. He has the second highest fantasy points of all time through three weeks at wide receiver and the number one of all time was like I think two thousand Marvin Harris. Yeah. Yeah, not the junior What but yeah, Sam Darnold's all right. I'm going Trevor Lawrence against the Cincinnati bangles Yes, the defense has improved but we want game environments How about tied for the highest over under the week? We got 51 and a half not just a 50 we have surpassed it So it people are looking at Trevor Lawrence where he was an awesome week one very very down in week two against Denver And then he he wasn't a top 12 guy against New England, but it was still good numbers Don't lose the faith in Trevor Lawrence this week. All right JSN. What about you running back my running back? We're going Tutan Basel Tutan Juicy one and Cincinnati he's the running back 13 through three weeks Here's the running back 11 last week on 17 opportunities the the Jacksonville offense is just Cooking right now and I really think that they have the way that they've talked about in the way they've utilized him I think Basel Tutan I'll try to trade for him in a couple places. He looks like he's going to be the dude The bangles defense has gotten better. They're improved But if you look a little deeper, they're still giving up high rates of explosive plays and that's what Tutan you know has has in his wheelhouses He ran second among all running backs in rush success rate and first in those plays reaching 15 miles an hour more than Gibbs He's very explosive so I think the matchup is okay And I I can't fathom Benching Basel Tutan and I'm going from the waiver wire right into your starting line up We got Braille and Allen. It's a one week as of right now We've seen one game with Braille and without breeze and it was 16 opportunities They included five targets and 81 total yards and it's the matchup It is Juicy Chicago 29th and EPA per rush allowed so this is it I expect a a heavy heavy dose of the run game As opposed like Gina was awesome last week. I think that this week with the Jets against Chicago They're gonna be on the ground Aaron Jones against Miami is my pick this week Jordan Mason on Reserve okay, yeah, and I'll take the old man voice for Aaron Jones Look, he's been a high-end RB two since the the move of Jordan Mason to IR The last two weeks 80% of administration 80% of snaps 50% of the Total rush attempts and targets Miami's 30th against running backs. It's a 10-and-a-half point favorite Minnesota team That should be running the ball all day Yep You screwed it up because you were like I'm going first and I'm going with the position. We don't normally start with I'm gonna go with you mess yourself up a nollens stack. I'm gonna keep starting John Johnson every week right now He's been fantastic You know against the Falcons. He's the Titan 4 through three weeks averaging 12.9 fantasy points per week He's very involved. He's tied with Tremac bride for the league lead in in zone targets second most red zone targets I mean it's it's perfect and Atlanta's 26th in fantasy points allowed to tie it in so You know, this was one of our You know most targeted like late-round guys weak one pick up right now It looks like he's a weekly start. Maybe that changes when Jordan Tyson You know gets off of IR, which could be as soon as this week But he's he's on IR right now as soon as next week. So yeah, keep starting John Johnson and I'm going with Tyler Warren Josh Downs is a great play, but I think Tyler Warren is as well But we're gonna attack Washington throughout the entirety of the season and You know even though week one felt not great He is the only tight ends with eight and a half fantasy points in each of the three weeks McBride Kelsey Johnson and Tyler Warren. It's been it's been quietly okay and Washington is 31st the schedule just to points to the position there You'll be playing tight ends it tight ends against them all year. All right. I'm going with Okay, we got to get that jersey updated Darren Waller against Detroit Sunday night annual update of Darren Waller's jersey. That's right I mean he can probably just do like a huge change on that. I think that we did last year to get it from Miami to the Carolina blue I think we can pull that off The snap shares they're going up. Yeah, I mean Darren Waller Detroit. We talked about it Sunday night game high over under Jalen Coke or could be out You know the the snaps drop at 51% last week red zone target Lions have been bleeding points to the tight imposition. Listen to this. Saints tight ends two of them in week one Bill's tight ends two of them in week two touchdowns Jets tight ends two touchdowns last week. I mean it delight to a week I'm having a real problem here because I I Think the breakout is coming for Tucker craft at some point. It is but I'm sitting here staring down Darren Waller versus Tucker Crafts this week and having a harder time by the minute deciding about what I want to do with that decision So I think Waller is going to be especially if you know Detroit's putting points up I mean coaker is out. Yeah, I don't know how you wouldn't Play I know the Walters there. I know I Plus I feel like if I did that and bench Tucker craft I could force the breakout because it would definitely happen Mm-hmm. I would be under my control But there you go. That was starts of the week brought to you by Apple card applying the wallet app on your iPhone today Subject your credit approval Apple card issued by Goldman Sachs Bank USA Salt Lake City branch terms and more at Apple card.com or taking a break and then we'll jump into the forecast Oh Let's do it Fantasy forecast presented by prize pigs All right, we have a London game guys. You ready to get up bed 630 you want to watch a little early football Mike? Not really yeah, the cold set one and two take on the commanders even less now one and Two there's gonna be fantasy goodness in this one. Yeah, Indie minus three and a half over under 47 and a half That's a nice number not bad and a couple teams that I don't know I don't know about either one of them to be honest, you know, you said through three weeks We get an idea of who these teams are I mean, what what are your thoughts? I mean Daniel Jones so far. I don't know that I've been in love with what I've seen So far from Daniel Jones. No so far Daniel Jones is looking it was Baltimore Kansas City, Houston So you can say that that's a gauntlet. I wouldn't I don't think he's looks terrible But it's not unlike when he had a great year for the Giants and got the extension and then he turned into a pumpkin And then he was playing great last year and I mean in a Kelly injury is not a joke No, he has a mobile quarterback. That was one of his superpowers Nine fantasy points 11 fantasy points and seven Considering we have two cult receivers That are starts of the week, you know past catchers in Warren and Downs The fact that Daniel Jones can't surpass 12 fantasy points not helpful So I hope he can get it done the matchup is great I just think these are two teams that I've been like I expected the cult to look a little better than they have And I expected the commanders honestly to look worse than they have And here we are. So Mariota last week. It was awesome 20 fantasy points through for three touchdowns can definitely stream him Yeah, I think this week you can Jonathan Taylor. Of course you're playing him And we've talked about Downs and Warren. So flipping to the other side. Well, I know you can play Keenan too can you yes he's going to but do you want to not necessarily but yeah he had nine targets last week I think Mike's right you can again you know what Andy scored last week we like the other guys more I'm just saying and in certain like if you're in a 14 teamer than keen now and feels like about a good of a flex start as you'll get on the running back room for the commanders, jacory cross-gamer last week if you if you watch the game so he had 19 attempts on the ground that equated to 36 yards that's 1.9 a carry that part was bad the the part that was good is he had a 50 plus yard touchdown run called back on in a relevant illegal formation that had nothing to do with the play so he did make a big play that didn't count he was almost my start of the week I was between a baseball tune and jacory cross-gamer yeah and and bill huh I don't have it oh you don't have it come on but yeah I mean he's getting the opportunities there yeah but 20 opportunities last week and that was that was against Seattle Seattle's a very difficult team to run the ball on and so you don't expect them to be great it's not like their other options were great and bill was bad now you have Rashad white dealing with I don't know if he's going to play this week they go out and sign Austin a cooler back which leads me to believe maybe Rashad white shoulders is more serious I think bill gets a lot of work in this game and against the Colts you're fine I mean that's that's a great man I agree bounce back week from a chlorine last week almost did it two weeks ago when Jason made him a start of the week he just had a couple of almost touchdowns last week he got into the end zone had nine more targets the last two weeks have been great with the target share and six catches 77 yards I'd certainly prefer him over like digs or anybody else in that passing offense the hard part for digs is this is actually very juicy in terms of cuz he's playing the slot you know what I'm almost 60% of the time and the Colts are to my numbers the second most vulnerable team against the slot wide receiver but the Mario to factor makes it more difficult to trust but digs should be great in this match up yeah we haven't seen the you know the snap count rise to a level where we'd be you know all about Antonio Williams so I think that's kind of cooled off yeah he feels like a an injury or next year injury away or a next your play the New England Patriots back in the United States here they're one and two they take on the three and a Buffalo bill so you've had a hard start head to Buffalo just good luck with that man the highest implied point total on the week is the Buffalo 27.5 this game is Buffalo minus six and a half over under 48 and a half you know I think the most difficult thing to get your confidence back is to travel to your division rivals home field and face you know Josh Allen who is going to put points up it's going to put you in a position to do everything that like if I wanted to help drake may I don't want to run the football and be efficient and then play good defense and then let them win the game in you know by not having to do everything and this is a game where at some point it's likely drake may have to try to put the team on his shoulders and do more it's just a shaky situation and you know how do you Andy how do you feel about the 21 points implied for the Patriots like feels high they can they get to 21 well I think this is just all based on how atrocious the bills defense has been I mean the bills last week they did win the game but I mean on the year 24th against running or quarterbacks 29th against running backs 28th against whiteouts I am a little surprised at that but you know I think part of the problem is when we're like like just tell me the story of the Patriots growing points that's when I mean you don't know who any main characters are in this book like there are none of gravy on Henderson rips off a long touchdown that the end it's someone I'm sorry yeah that's only three times to get to 21 points oh man I don't know is there a pass interference penalty in near the end zone that Ramondri can take advantage of it really does feel difficult to see them scoring they've just been in a nap to offense how do we not have like a 10 target game for a home you know dobs you paid all this money to we haven't had that at all it's weird you've got Mac Holland's leading the team in target share you've got a tandem of running backs that makes the other each makes the other irrelevant sort of if I had to start one I'd still start Ramondri but I have I have them back to back in my rankings but I mean I don't care if you want to go the other way yeah and I think it's really a matter of like if if you're the underdog in a more six points for you if you're the underdog going to match up throw Travion Henderson out there for the idea that he he gets a you know a big blow up game the the more likely leader in fantasy points is Ramondri but probably without a very high ceiling so I don't love playing either the match up is great over under as good the deals aren't good do you start a patriot I think in most leagues you're going to have Ramondri or Travion Henderson on rosters where you're going to start them yes it's you know it's not like they are shoe in top 15 running backs by any means but in today's NFL you're probably needing to start them Josh Allen here's a good question Patriots running back or all all he Gordon I mean I play all he Gordon I would play for the chance at something like like 20 carries I mean we don't we don't know if Jalen writes going to play this week for Miami so there's just no world I wouldn't I would I would go with the Patriots I would go with the Patriots over both of them yeah yeah well you guys are like I've picked up like how are the Patriots going to score 20 points but against Minnesota yeah I was going to score three yeah okay not a strong point yeah I kind of put the Minnesota part out of my mind for a second and was just focusing on workload but yeah I was going to accuse you guys it'd be an anti-ali but I think you're pro Viking that is correct James cooking Allen of course you play them Dalton King K getting back out there see if we it will be a bit of a like you want to preview a potential storyline for next week a disappointing King K game will put you in the position of saying same old same old or you know I feel like it's an important one this is a very tough matchup I mean the New England against tight ends is number one yeah they're number one they don't give up a lot of points against uh tight ends 4.5 points per game on average so which they've played I mean they played some tough teams right I mean they are like some tough tight ends they stop Kelsey right that was one of their games uh am I miss remembering their schedule Baltimore yeah you are you remember you had Seattle Pittsburgh yeah I think I was a matchup before so they those are not any big tight ends that they faced the the prize picks projection for Dalton King Kades a 53.5 receiving yards oh that's not bad that's so that's only ahead of him is Bowers McBride Kelsey so because he's a big play guy yeah the the projections are still there I'm still playing Dalton King Kade with confidence even if would you play Waller or King Kade oh if you have the decision oh my gosh it coakers out that it that's such a firestorm of a perfect situation for Darren Waller that I think I'm still going to play King Kade but it I understand that what do you guys think about D.J. more as a trade for candidate I like that he's been he's been very very involved yeah he got ten targets I believe that he is going to be there like if we do I'm sure we will soon do like a redraft we usually do early in the year where we draft people over I doubt we get to where D.J. more would go but he would be significantly higher to me the the way he has looked this year the involvement in the offense I am fully bought in the D.J. more will be the primary wide receiver for a great team and I think at the end of the year you could look back and say this is like a top 10 wide receiver that's really bullish and it feels weird because last we had the injury game where he heard his shoulder and went out with a negative I believe he had I'm saying zero negative 0.1 fantasy points and so that's going to really it's going to bring down your total average is going to bring down the managers feelings about them but he comes back with the injured shoulder gets ten targets I really like these I'm going to be extra transparent here to my own detriment but I want to have the discussion because I think it benefits the listenership I've really had the long thought process and maybe this is just my own problem because I can't just stay pat with a great team but I've had the thought process of like is and we didn't bring him up on the trade away candidate yesterday but the Vante Adams is having the best three games start of his career as an older wide receiver he is a compelling like if you're offering him around that's a compelling sure player and I've had the thought about how do I view how do I view DJ more so much why do you hate this I hate this because what you're saying is that you're considering trying to offer Devonte Adams for DJ more and something else and plus yeah you would have to you'd be worth plus move with where the market is right now Devonte Adams is worth more I mean I've had the thought and then you know I have Josh Allen yeah you know you know the math on that and it's like it's really it's always going no matter how like if you think we're smart if you think we're dumb whatever no matter who you are you can have it in your mind that you're going to trade a player that's that's like a great trade away candidate but if they've played three amazing games in a row. So I don't think there's a soul out there that doesn't feel like, what if it keeps going? Like, Adams has been that good. What if Puka has surgery? All these things go on your head. Yeah. If he goes out and plays this week and then it's re aggravated and, I mean, that's a humongous deal. So, so it has crossed my mind, like those two players, I feel like DJ Moore is a trade for Canada. I feel like Devonte Adams is probably, he's probably going to maintain value throughout the year, but he's probably not going to be what he is right this moment. No. I mean, Devonte, let me see where he is on the year. He's the wide receiver six. He's been insane. I mean, insanely good. Yeah. 19537 yards. He's last two games. I don't mind the thought process, but I do, I think Adams is more valuable at the end of the year. That, I mean, that DJ Moore. Yeah. And DJ Moore has dealt with the injury already and there's some concerns about, you know, Josh Allen hasn't needed a go-to guy since the digs years. So, sorry for the deats who are there. No, no. That's the thought process. Whenever you do, I just hope it's the wrong decision. It could be. And it's worth remembering, you know, that I've made wrong decisions a lot of time. No. Last year, Devonte Adams was the wide receiver eight and Puka played. Yeah. No, like Puka. Puka coming back destroyed. I can't tell. He's trying to talk me out of trying to pursue this. Puka coming back. That's where I'm with it though. Absolutely destroys the Terrence Ferguson Tyler Higby. But not Adams. No, not Adams. There's two valuable pieces for the brand. And one thing to remember is Puka's return. The reason he didn't play as he said his explosiveness wasn't there. So we still need, when he plays, we still need to know that he's 100% Puka, right? You don't have Puka. I would take half Puka. Yeah. That would be pretty good. Yeah. Score most 100 receivers. The New York Jets in our next matchup at one and two taking on the Chicago Bears with the big Monday Night Victory, making Philly look silly. The Vegas line Chicago minus three and a half over under 43 and a half, you know, the Jets have been a competent team this year, which is great because competence at quarterback means relevance for Garrett Wilson, maybe Ken Yantzadek continues in a sense. He was limited in practice with the back injury, which I would guess happened when he laid out and looked in pain at the end of that catch. The bears case kingdom, we think it'll be case kingdom. Think so. Caleb Williams was getting, you know, getting better every day. They have said they know who the quarterback is, but they won't tell it was a little confused because I saw the like the locker room stuff with case kingdom. Oh, his little with the speech, the game, which was awesome. The speech was great, but then like, like Caleb didn't play, right? He talked about rope, the rope, but he clearly did a little post game showries in the row. Well, you can just because you're not playing. I mean, you might get a little dewy. Okay. Okay. This thought it was weird and it was a really nice rope. I don't feel like I've got that rope. You think it's weird that a guy's like, hey, you know what I could be wearing right now. No, the robe of luxurious, spock, quality, you've got to go take shower time from the guys that dad. I think there's showers for everybody at a professional facility. They're not sharing one leaky buckets. This is the question. Was he in pads? No. So he was just in normal regular clothes at a game and then was like, yes, man, like that is weird. And we go change into a robe. It's weird, but also it's a robe, Jason. No, we all want to wear a robe every morning. It's a great. We all want to wear. Okay. I'm not going to dunk on a guy for wanting to wear a luxurious robe. Okay. All right. Start sit decisions, Mike. You brought a Braylon Allen, his price picks projections at 70.5 Russian receiving yards. That's awesome. Yeah, we will take that. That is. We do have. So I'm very bullish for this week in particular. We have popular start sit questions that are that are funny. Braylon. That nasty button. Ready. I'll go to you, Jason. Braylon Allen or spotlight or Omari in Hampton, Omari in Hampton. That's the wrong answer. They're playing Seattle, right? Yeah. At Seattle. You're going to play-- You're going to play-- They just had 1.9 a carry for JCM. For the guys getting half the snaps of JCM. Yeah. I will absolutely still start Omari in Hampton in that situation. Okay. How about-- Clip that. We're just going to keep the spotlight the whole time. No, it's any Hampton we need to have. Okay. And then Judkins. I would play Braylon Allen. Okay. That one's easy for me. Deandre Swift. You know, it's been a great start to the season. You have to play him on the other side. We'll see when Breeze Hall comes back. Or if you get Braylon Allen for more than one week. I'm avoiding the toughest part of this entire matchup right now. Garrett Wilson, play him. How you feel about Citi like after last week's breakout? Do you-- Where is he in your weekly rankings relative to the Dalton Shultzes of the World and things like that? Let me go have a peek. Seven for 105 and a touchdown last week of the 43-yard catch. Yeah, I mean, I've got Sedeck right now-- You got all the Titans right now, but go on. I don't mean on my roster. I mean, in my weekly rankings, he's at tight end 11 with-- Match 13. Yeah, it's like, you know, you can start him. The Bears are usually a little bit more of a past funnel team. Not that they're weak against Titans, but I think that the way that they're using Sedeck is a little bit more like a wide receiver. So it'll be interesting. I think you can throw him out there and start him. His numbers have gone up, his utilization, his involvement. This is a player who missed pretty much camp and preseason with injury. So getting him involved, I think, will be a progression. And we've already kind of seen it. And it's been forced with some of the injuries around him. My-- the latest I saw, I don't expect-- Adonai Mitchell to be there yet. Omar Cooper Jr. is on IR. So yeah, I mean, I think Kenan Sedeck is probably the wide receiver two for this team right now. What do you do with the past catchers? So I-- I was a burden. A burden is in love, and assuming it's Case Keenum, he hyper-targeted Luther Burton. I'm going to play him with confidence. After that, the confidence goes-- We get the spotlight for Mike here with the Lovelin. OK, give me some questions. Go ahead. Yeah, so Mr. Lovelin. Mr. Lovelin. How about Kenan Sedeck or Lovelin? That is so dirty. Dirty. Oh, that's such a good question. My rankings have Kenan Sedeck ahead. Harold Fanon Jr. after nine targets. Or post in Lovelin. Fanon. Why is Lovelin doing so much cardio and not getting enough-- I don't know. --get enough action. He's got 84% of snaps, 78% of routes. I don't know, Ben. You can get him real cheap right now if you believe in the long-term return to the relevance. But you don't. Wow. Or you're scared. I'm scared. Yes. It's definitely worth some-- there's going to be some squads where you want to take the chance that he bounces back. I still feel like there's no world where he doesn't have monster games coming up. Another of Waller or him rest of season. Lovelin. You'd be Lovelin, right? Yeah, it would definitely be Lovelin. I think that Lovelin will still for sure have big, massive, weak winning games. The one thing I am far more skeptical on now is that he will have the consistency that you hoped for as a number one target for the team. Yeah, that part is-- And you don't get quite the answers you want, even waiting weeks right now, because Caleb's not there. So you just said you're playing burden, because Kenan improved. He could hyper target him. We didn't see enough this year, I think. So-- Khalif Raymond. If you-- Raymond will probably-- If you play him, you will die. He will outscore Lovelin. Everyone loves Raymond. Ray bed. Ray bed. All right, we'll take a break. We'll come back with some more matchups. [MUSIC PLAYING] It's a good Brad Garrett, Mike. It's very good. Jacksonville, 2-1, taken on the 2-1, Bengals. This is fun. I mean, these are two very good teams. And one of them's going to be 500 after this. Plus, two pretty ferocious cats. If you-- I mean-- Kyle has given us the cat stats. OK, so-- Let's have them. Cat stats? The cat fight? So the-- In terms of size, it's-- I think we know the title. It's clearly the bangle. The bangle tiger's got to be bigger. A lot. By a lot. Up to 350 pounds for a jaguar. 700 pounds for a bangle. Yeah. The bite force, which I have not researched these numbers. This is purely on Kyle. Underrated stat. He's cats that sure the bangles got the size but the Jaguars got that bite force 1500 psi on the bite. Let's talk speed. Let's talk speed. You got a bangle can only get up to about 40 miles an hour. Oh, oh, oh, oh, only while a Jaguars up to 50 catch me if you can can't. Thank you. So who wins at a fight? The Tiger. The Bengal. Yeah, we're trying to make it. Wow, there you go. My goodness Trevor Lawrence your start of the week based on toot and Jason your start of the week. Yeah, we want in on this and park Washington your start of every week. Play him for Jacksonville. Oh, man. I the brine Thomas Jr. Michael or Marvin Harrison Jr. Like if you are a rookie from three years ago with a junior in your name. You're going to be talked about at the trade deadline this year because there's more rumors about BT. We had rumors about him going to San Francisco last year. have reemerged San Francisco as a potential destination, which if you want to say, Hey, how do you save your career? You can go to San Francisco. Yeah, good injury. I know that's true. Jacobi Myers is a is a flexible player this week. And then you know, the nice thing about the Cincinnati Bengals, it's really easy each week. Joe borough, Chase Brown, Jamar Chase, T Higgins, and log out, right? Yeah. I mean, there's no team ever easier than the Bengals. You have to start all of them. I mean, it's kind of like Dallas. And they're very similar. Yeah. And you've got play Pickens, play CD, play Javante. Would you rather play Jacobi Myers or Keenan Allen? Jacobi. I want, I want this game environment. I want a 51 and a half point over under two great offenses and the chance for 70 points to be scored in a game. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, you don't have to wake up at 630 in the morning to watch. Yeah. Well, there are people, Jason, that don't have to wake up at 630 in the morning to watch it. Lucky. It's our job. But then they have to stay up until midnight for. And when we get done with our job, no matter how hard it is, we take a shower. No matter how easy. No, when my, when my contractors get done working on my house, I take a shower. Yes. Perfectly. We're so focused on a man that just wants to be clean. How clean and comfy. You don't want to be clean and comfy is weird. I earned that shower. What? I don't understand. No, I don't know. I'm just having fun with it. Get, get healthy Caleb. Yeah. Come back and score 59 points. He's working on his health is health and his wellness. He's staying zen. Yeah. In his room, he can give him all the, the guffies. He's one of his three my guys. Obviously loves Caleb. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm allowed a license to make fun of him. All right. The Cardinals one and two taking on the two and one New York Giants Arizona favorite on the road by two and a half. That is your. If you want to check in on the James Winston meter, I didn't know that until just now. That's crazy. The over under 44 and a half. But I have, that's why you traded for McCarty. I have gone soul back and forth on this one and been thoroughly convinced that both teams are going to figure out how to lose. But it's like, both of their defenses are not great right now. The Giants lost one of their superstars and Brian Burns. But the Cardinals can't get pressure. And if you can't get pressure on James, he will figure it out. Like he's not that incompetent that if there's no pass rush coming, he will, he will find Malik neighbors. But the card, you're like, well, but the Cardinals offense, which is Kobe, how do they not outscore the Giants? It's, it's a crazy game. 44 and a half, not a lot. Jeremiah love is going to be the story of this game. I mean, he should get pretty much all of the work like he did last week. They, they talked about they said it was just a hot hand. But his hand is going to be on fire here. The matchup is great. And the fact that you lost Brian Burns, your defense is beat up. That's usually where you beat the Giants on the ground. I think that Jeremiah love, you know, he could beat the running back five on the week. Easy. Yeah, I think this is a very significant Vegas line to tell you the story of this game. Like Winston is statistically the worst quarterback in EPA per play in the league so far. So it does not give me any confidence statistically and visually speaking, he's the worst. And you know, for the team to go trade from McCarthy, who is not exactly headline making talent, right? So, so far. But that gives me, I like have no confidence in anybody but scat on the, on the New York side. Yeah. I mean, the skataboo start should be good. They're going to give him a billion opportunities. So how far down are you with Malik? Malik or Terry McLaren? Let me, let me see. I think it's Terry. I think it's definitely Terry actually. I think it's Malik here. Last week was, you know, that crazy weather game. What he had like 30 yards, but five targets that Arizona Cardinals coming to town, I think will be a salve for Malik. And I expect Malik to have 10 targets. And if you give Malik 10 targets and you're not in some kind of crazy stormy game against the Cardinals, there's a good chance that he has a big play. Are you positive that he's the same guy right now? When, you know, there was an expectation even of Jackson, aren't we's here at the beginning part of the season would start slower. I always thought that the beginning part of the season. I mean, this has been normal ramp up that is usual for coming off of an ACL. You know, we said when you drafted him that it would be a slow start. Like you said, even with Jackson Dart, I think the Cardinals defense is just the difference here. It will they be able to tackle him. I mean, they're number one corner. Will Johnson is gone now. So who's, who's guarding him? Maybe Buddha Baker can try to break his ribs like he did Mike Evans, but oh, take it easy. He also missed a easy tackle on Debo and let him score 80 yard touchdown to your point about, you know, big play. But yeah, I don't, I don't personally like I, I have neighbors quite a, quite a ways down the list. Like I play Josh downs, my start of the week over Malik neighbors. He's still in my time. I played birdie for who was, I played bird and I played golden. Here's, here's the most, he's at 25 for me. Here's the most, he's at 22 for me. So we're not, we're not too far apart. But the most interesting one is on the other side of the field, Michael Wilson coming off of 17 targets. Yeah, easy Michael Wilson. And the Cardinals are favored in this one. They have the better quarterback by a wide margin. I mean, I'm taking the quarterback. I don't trust James at all right now. Yeah. I think he's going to be. He seems like he's not taking football very. I think he is, I think he'll be okay in this game. Ready to be a broadcast. He's going to be an awesome commentator or a broadcaster wherever he's talking. I'll be watching. He's got to be the sideline, dude. Oh, yes. I don't think you can trust him to talk for the entire game. I think you need him to have these select moments. The sideline, the pregame, the post game. I think he could be a color commentator. No, it's too much. No, wait. What about Booger, dude? That's the sideline. He had the Booger mobile. He didn't get a Winston mobile. That's fine. He was actually the color commentator. And then we were like, we got to get this out of the booth. Yeah. And then they put him in the Booger mobile. We're like, we gotta get in that. Booger. There is no wrong with having a role to play. And I think Winston's role in in the media will be amazing for the next 20 years. But it seems like we have a difference of opinion though. I very much believe Arizona wins this football game. I saw that I believe their offense is much better than the giants in this game. I saw a stat. I don't have it in front of me. Don't know where it came from. Don't know the specific stat. But I don't even know the stats. But that itself is actually a mystery to me. But it was someone fine. It was first read. It was first read targets for Michael Wilson. Could I be thinking for Michael Wilson and Marvin Harrison, Jr. And they were shocking. It was shockingly close for a career. No, no, no. I think it was last week. Oh, only and you look at 17 targets for Michael Wilson. So it's like first read. They looked so he looked at Marvin. He was like, nope. Yeah, that's an active no. Yeah. It's like we we're trying, man. You're not as he just kind of giggle when he looks over. He's like, Oh, I think it might just be. Again, it might be a fake from the get go. It's like it's really just to make defenders go, I'm totally looking to this side of the field. Psych Michael Wilson. Um, first read target share. No, no, you're the stat. The stat. You didn't know where it came from or where it's gone. Is this the whole this was like last week. Yeah, I thought that's what he was talking about. That is what I was talking about. 45. 45% for Michael. You didn't know. You didn't know where it came from where it was from or it would have been fun or one of it super fun. You were just doubt I made up. But think about how fun that is. If it was real, I'm going to find what I was looking at. Well, we have to because we have is 45. I know, but I want to know 45% Michael Wilson, 18% training. Bride, 15% Marvin Harrison. I will say this. Like I did by one of those sat tire accounts again. I will find that. I'll find that. I did disagree with one thing you said yesterday about Michael Wilson, which was like this contention that he's never going to be the first receiving target for Arizona. I think that there's a place where where Michael Wilson and training bride really share that at the tippy top of the of the team's depth chart. And I found it. Michael Wilson, like the targets last week told me he could be a number one target. Yeah, for sure. I found what I was looking at. And it was not a is a very great account from Jared Smola. This is why when I said I, I don't remember what I say. I prefaced it properly because I was letting everybody know I don't know what I'm about to talk about. Yeah. Yeah. Well, no, because we got to the truth here. That's what we do. Right. The winding road. It was a real close first three targets between Michael Wilson and training bride. Oh, Marvin, Marvin Harrison was down to nine percent. So it's basically like, yeah, the office is not run. They do not care about getting Marvin Harrison. But yeah, I think, well, I think Wilson is a definitively, like great start every week. And obviously you play McBride and a very good wide receiver and it's very parker wash. It turns out that, you know, we, when you're good, the, the fancy time machine where we had, who's this year's Michael Wilson is Parker? No, it's Michael Wilson. Oh, yeah. That, that, that often happens. So like who is the JSN? Yeah, we just don't believe. Because he, I couldn't believe that JSN could have a more perfect season the last year. It just, it was not statistically an outcome that could ever happen. And he's like, yes, I can. Yes, actually, I can. I like somebody who was saying that this year is in his Brock Bowers and I'm like, I based on what I saw in that game, you might be right. Like Brock Bowers, I played against them last week. I was terrified on every play and every play is open. And there's no way to cover him. That's, it's a, it's a cheat code. It was the old Kelsey games where you're like, you know, they're going to throw the ball to Travis Kelsey. Why is no one guarding him? You can't guard a tight end. That's that like that. That's the truth. Who guards him? Boota Baker. You bring the safety down to guard him. It's just a linebacker can't guard him. And you don't line up a corner against him because they're too small. Like anecdotally, maybe it's not true. But what I was seeing of like these, it's like short stuff where he's kind of leaking out a little bit later. And then it's genuinely the defense is like, oh, he did it again. It's not possible. Not Brock. You can't do that again. We're not going. And then the next play slow, just leak out, turn around. And it's funny because I mean, when have you ever had a, you've had these lockdown corners, you know, Patrick's or Tan goes up against somebody they get one catch. When have you had one of the elite of the elite tight ends go into a game and then it's like, we just shut him down. I can't remember. Kelsey never got shut down. Not in his day. Not in his day. Yeah. Big bride never gets shut down. They just, they're too big. Oh, that make bride face face mask. It wasn't a stiff arm. It was a, it was a spike. It was, he football spiked a human. Yeah. It was awesome. It was amazing. All right. We got to move on. The Rams one and two taken on the two and one Eagles. Vegas line here. Rams minus three on the road. So again, that is going on the road to Philly and being favored is not in two team. Not common favorite on the road by three. Yeah. Eagles wins this year. Commanders Titans. So we're not proud of that yet over under 43 and a half very low. I mean, if you watched the Eagles defense last or offense last week and then you said, okay, let's go ahead and upgrade the defense you're playing against and now go score. What is the, I mean, how does that happen? They're going to need to run the ball more, which I don't know why they got away from it. It was working with sake one last week and then they put the ball in Jalen hurts his hands and he's just not, he has looked really simple, really unspecial. He, he's targeting Devante Smith too much and, and I love Devante Smith. I've got the, the hurts Devante Smith stack, but when I go back and I watch film on this team, it is just like, there are wide open players. You know, we've talked about, Makai Limit is getting wide, not like, oh, he's got a step on a guy you could have thrown on the ball. It's like, did you not see the dude that no one was guarding? And then you threw to Devante Smith in double coverage and I don't know, man. It's like he's not, he's not, it's got to make AJ Brown so mad. Like because he just wanted you to throw him the ball in triple coverage over and over again. I'm still hopeful that they figure this out, specifically with Makai Limit, a, a rookie first round talent, first round pick who, you know, should get more involved, should get more, you know, connection with Jalen Hurts as time goes on. It's not going to be in this game. I mean, I can't imagine anything good for the Eagles offense against the Rams defense. Players like Makai Limit are the very hardest players in fantasy to just keep holding on your team because you kind of, when they're not producing yet, you just want to rotate through the young guys that have a good week. You know what I mean? It's like Ted Hurts is getting 75% of snaps. Well, maybe it would be his week and then maybe it'll be Antonio Williams and then maybe it'll be this rookie or that rookie. I just think those guys are hard when you need a player. Like I'm not saying he's not going to develop. I think he will. I just don't know when and it's hard to keep those guys on the bench. Yeah. But in this game, like Seikwan, sure, he ran well last week. He gets to face the six best rush defense that has Aaron Donald back. I have a hard time believing that it's going to be a big game for him. Devonty Smith dealing with the hamstring. You know, Don Tavy and Wix. He's okay. I mean, he's okay. It's just not going to be. They're implied. Point total is 20. Okay. These are, and these are two good defenses because I think that, well, on the, we think on the Eagle side, I think it's very shaky. Barkley is in play just because of who he is. He's the superstar one run can make the whole week and have volume. The rest of the team very scared of, including Jalen Hurts. So would you play Jalen Hurts or Bryce Young against Detroit? My goodness. Disgusting. I think I, I think I pray, Bryce. I mean, I told you, were, are we playing against each other in the dynasty league? Whatever it is, I, I finally made the move where I put Shuk in above Hurts and it feels real good. That feels like an easy move. No, it was very easy. That's all I mean, it was that one's easy, but how about Jalen Hurts or CJ Stroud against the Dallas Cowboys? I don't, I don't like us because you know, he probably, probably, probably hurts, I think I go hurts. I would play CJ Stroud. Yeah, I get it. Like Jalen Hurts right now is not doing anything that you wanted for fantasy. The last two weeks, he would be on pace for 348 rushing yards, not good. 3500 passing yards, not good, 17 passing touchdowns, not good. How many rushing touchdowns? Um, eight and a half. Okay. Hurts or the other guy, he's on pace for 26 interceptions, Matthew Stafford or Jalen Hurts? Andy, what do you think? The former MVP. Last year's MVP against the current. If he's getting pukabat, and I get Adams and Pukka, I'm playing Matthew Stafford. Poof. Good luck. Sorry, everybody. Okay. This one's been hard. Uh, Jalen Hurts or Drake May? Jalen Hurts. Okay. We did it. Jalen Hurts in the lineup. Yeah. Play, play Kyron, play Pukka and Adams. If Pukka's active, if Pukka's not active, Mumfield is the desperation there or the, uh, tie their HB option on the other, you know, you don't have got it. He's not practicing Wix's desperation, lemon is desperation. Devante Smith, if he's active, you play him, but it's not a high scoring projected game. There's supposed to be a little bit of rain, a little bit of wind, maybe some water and heart. I don't know. Um, the Green Bay Packers at one and two take on the Oh and three Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Okay. One win between these two teams and both fan bases are positive. They're going to lose the game. Green Bay minus three and a half over under 38 and a half. We may all lose with that over under. That's what that tells me. Jalen Daniels, undrafted free agent out of Kansas. We'll get to start won the backup role in Tampa. And yeah, that's who he starts for Tampa. Back year being was limited with a glute on Wednesday after they said he's got nothing wrong. They, they literally said he will not be on the injury report and then got you lawyers. But yeah, both of these fan bases, like, uh, let me go to the source here. Al Borlin as a Green Bay Packer fan, confidence in the running game right now. Zero percent zero percent. If you had to bet, one guy gets more than eight carries. Would you make that bet? One of the three Brooks Lloyd Johnson, are you asking out or us? I'm asking you now. I do think that they will. There's been a lot of talk. I mean, first of all, I don't expect that the Tampa Bay offense is going to do a ton. So there's been so much talk this week from the Packers camp about needing to run the ball more even when it's failing because it's going to fail. And I love that that's the context because it's really, it's really stating the exact state of affairs. But it's like they want to, you know, they talked about it being like a body shot in boxing where it's just you've got to keep hating them over and over and you've got to stay committed to it. When you get a bunch of third and eight, you are body shotting yourself. Yeah, I get that. But my point is when you really are committed to the run and you want to do it all game, you still cannot if you're down a score or two. And in this matchup against Jalen Daniels, an undrafted free agent rookie making his first start, I, I hope that the Packers aren't going to be down two scores because I would be embarrassing for them. And if they are up or if it's, you know, in a neutral game environment, I do think they're going to be committed to handing the ball off to who probably Lloyd first Caleb Johnson second. Yeah. They came out and said that all the running backs have not had enough chances to get going. To me, that says maybe they'll pick one get a chance to get going. Last week, neither one had over eight opportunities. The price fix line, I think is like eight and a half for Caleb. I think Caleb Johnson. I think they will give us. Here's my predict. I think they'll give Caleb the ball this week. Yes. And it will fail miserably. Yeah. But good luck against Vita Vea with this talent on the offensive side. Christian Watson Matthew Golden, play them both Tucker craft. Today's a spot where Tampa Bay has been vulnerable so far. He only has one red zone target. They've made moves to make the offensive line better. This is an easy math equation for Green Bay. Tucker craft gets better when he gets healthier from the ACL and isn't needed to block inline as much because they fixed some things on the offensive line. Until those things happen, craft will be hit and miss. I, you know, the breakout game is coming. I still believe it. I do too. He's too good. Yeah. Jordan, you know, Jane Reed has gone like the kind of short area stuff. You know, is it this week? I'm really indecided with him and Waller. I just don't know what to do with that situation. Yeah. That is, that is pretty tough. I, I think I lean the Tucker craft side, like Mike said, eight targets last week. And similar to neighbors, you expect a slower start to the season, but they will get it together. But like by the end of the season, at some point, the athleticism catches up. I mean, the atrophy goes away and, and you are ready to be the manimal you were. I don't know if it'll be this week, but the matchup is pretty good against the dog and the ball. Yeah. That's going to be helpful for sure. Jordan also help hurts. Jordan love love. I'm still confident in the passing game for the Packers. Yeah, I think golden and Christian Watson. It's delightful. My, my only fear at all was that last second visual hamstring pull from Christian Watson. Wednesday's injury practice report came out. He was not on. He wasn't even listed as a full participant. He was just not on it. So he was just doing a bit. Yeah. A little psych out got us. I got an interception. What a prank. Cause he was like, oh, I would have been a part of that play. But yeah, it was Miami. I'm echo Bucke. Why does he have a 33 32 and 39 through three weeks? Right now, I mean, no, he's in like category of, you know, are you playing Don Havien Wicks or him? I mean, no, I'll still go above that. But there is, I mean, back up quarterback, Abuka with an undrafted quarterback, who you, we have no idea if he can be good. The Packers defense is not scary, but a situation where you're already not performing. And now you have a worse quarterback, I would prefer to have you on the bench score a bunch of points. So I can have confidence for next. I mean, it's 11 weeks in a row for Abuka where he has not had 10. He hasn't had nine fantasy points. So this is not a guy with a rookie quarterback that I'm expecting to get a touchdown, which is seemingly his only way he's going to hit that double digit threshold. I mean, he had a touchdown two weeks ago and he didn't hit, you know, 10 points. So he's, to me, he's like a double flex option. Bucke seems like a good play in this game because Green Bay's defense is given up 29.2 fantasy points. And how do you protect a rookie undrafted free agent? Yes, you let him hand the ball off and you have success against Green Bay. He 100% should be a good play, but an injury combined with a, the defense can just like when you're a bad rush defense, but you don't have to worry about the quarterback, I'm going to sell out until the quarterback proves that he can beat me. Tennessee's oh and three, they traveled a Baltimore to take on the Ravens at two and one. Oh boy. The, uh, the line, Baltimore minus 11 and a half, we can be quick with this one. The over on there's 42 and a half that gives Baltimore 27. That means you start Jackson, Henry, flowers, end of list. If flowers is back, Bateman is not an option. Correct. So the Baltimore starts are simple. On the Tennessee side, the Tennessee sits are simple. Yeah. All of them. Set them all. You want to play, you want to play Pollard? He didn't practice foot injury. You won't play spheres. Didn't practice ankle injury. You'll play cam ward. You're, you're literally should be in an institution. It's singletons time to shine, baby. I mean, Nicholas singleton. I like if yeah, it's not shining. No, it's his time to not shine, add and get carried. Yeah. Um, some context spirit was knocked out of the game. And they were like singletons. And you stay there. Listen, Jason. I watched both starters are gone. Pollard didn't practice really last week too. I watched car now take routes this week. They were fantastic. Open all the time double moves. No, even got targeted on some of them while he was wide open. Do you flew over? Do you realize that like cam ward has zero completions over 20 yards? There's no, there's no big place. He is 34th in yards per attempt. I mean, this is how are we talking about Caleb Williams in a robe? And we're not talking about that play. What last week were Cameron Ward like stopped moving. Yeah, what a cool trick you got. He stopped moving. You're allowed to do that if you're the best. He just like kind of sat like he had the feet going. And then it rolls up and then he's kind of turned off. And he's like, he did complete the pass on that play. But it's like he did it in college a couple of times. This is not serious. This is not a program that is unserious. And they've talked about his footwork is hotrocious and interception in the end zone. I kind of won that game. I can't imagine being a head coach in the NFL. Don't worry. Nine Dable is confident in him as a player in person. Yeah. And grindable is going to have a new job next year. I hope he's got a new quarterbacks sooner than his due job. But some context to rookie, you know, highly drafted wide receivers and their target share for the first three weeks. Because Carl Tates at a 25% target share. They're not throwing the ball enough. But he is being targeted last week. How many how many do you have it in front of you? You know, he was like nine targets. No, he did. He had nine target six catches. 58 yards wide open for a touchdown that they couldn't complete. I saw people dropping car. No, no, no, no, I went to scoop him up a media. I think that is a massive mistake. I mean, would you play a book or a car? No, take car. No, take for sure. Mike with the jail. I think you'll start. I think I play car. I think I would play car. Nail D. Ironically, some of the numbers on that. I make a book. His first three weeks as his rookie season. He was only 22% target share. Rome was a 18. Teterol Macmillan. Great rookie season was only a 24% through his first three weeks. It's just so much more than target share. No, I agree. I'm not saying you're saying that it's all that, but it's not a step that I am holding on to for for Carl Tate in particular because the target from cam ward. You need four to equal a target from a regular quarterback and those three games for a book last year that you talked about, you know, he scored three touchdowns in them. For goodness' sake, Carl Tate, what's the overrun run touchdowns rest of the way? What's insane? Three. Carl Tate should have had a touchdown in that game. He was wide open in the end zone. And it was a target. Yeah. And it just got missed. So it's, I mean, it's so easy and Wondale's out targeting him. Yeah. I mean, it's going to those two guys. The part of the problem here is volume and speed because, you know, you could say, 25% target share is not bad. But, you know, we've talked about this in the past with Baltimore where it's like, well, how many total targets? How it they're playing so slow where it's like, cam ward had 23 completions. Two weeks ago was 13 completions. You'd have to have like 75% target share to matter. So hopefully cam ward gets it together figures out a little bit better plan. I mean, we saw down the stretch last year some signs of life from cam ward. You came into the season, Andy. Shut up. Uh, shut your mouth. Really believe in that, you're breaking mouth. We're going to be good off what you're talking about. That wasn't me. Was was good. That wasn't me. So, you know, it's, it's still very early in his career. I hate myself for thinking that I really do. Yeah. I, I want to apologize for that. I want to apologize for believing anything about Maliguelis and Miami. Um, I want to apologize for doubt in Kyron Williams. Oh, I hate any wrong things I say. And those were super wrong cam ward sucks. Balls. Oh, oh, get wrecked. Get wrecked. I mean, I had to do something to get out of the spotlight. I will remind you, which is still something's happening in this room right now. Andy, for as bad as you feel, just remember the Titans draft. Number one, they feel worse. You think? Yeah. Our room is wearing a complete where where we should. Oh, Jeremy's running around. He definitely wants to camera on and over there. Um, Dallas. Oh, yeah, Brooks. I should have hidden. What did he say? That's what I mean. I don't say it often. That's for sure. Um, Dallas one and two Houston, Oh, and three over under 48 and a half. You talked about Stroud Houston, minus three. Still favorite at home at Oh, and three against Dallas, because Dallas is one and two and seem. They just seem inexact in what they are. Like we don't, they just made a trade for Joey Porter, Jr. Big trade. Probably not playing this week could be out there. Houston's defense has been weird. They are still stopping running back. So I have my doubts about Javante going into Houston with that crowd and going up against the number two running defense and doing anything. So I think that there might be starts at decisions related to him. Like Braylon Allen. Like Braylon Allen or Javante, I think is a fair question. I think it's fair. Like Braylon Allen will probably have more yards than Javante, but I'll touch down upside still. Just still pretty hot. Yeah, I am a barely Javante. I think that's a fair call though. You can, you can make the decision on your own. This is a team that, you know, last year, the Texans, you couldn't do anything against them this year that they've been beaten in the passing game. However, two thirds, two thirds of their games were Josh Allen and, and Joe burrow. And now here's Dak. So it's like, I don't know. Are they going to figure that out? They got, you know, it takes out that you think they're just not as good as they were last year. I don't think they're figuring it out this week against Dak and CD and Pickens. No, I don't. I think their numbers are going to look this bad next week. They might win the game because Dallas's defense is equally atrocious. And, you know, can they run the ball? They thought that they could get their little Joe mix and thing going with David Montgomery and Woody Marx. They have not. David Montgomery has done what he Marx is on your waiver. Why are you should pick him up? I mean, David, my opportunity is a cool six for 10 and 11 for 33 the last two weeks with no touchdowns. I mean, it's been gross. Gross nasty nasty. I would pick up Woody Marx. Yeah, but he's only averaging three point three of touch, but they may be as looks much better than David Montgomery. I mean, I know that there's been some talk about them getting him more involved. I think they're still going to go to go to the bathroom. I think what he marks was eight for eight. Yeah, I mean, this is what he marks was five for 15 the last two games. They haven't run it. It's an offensive line problem. Yeah. And I do think that they certainly still prefer David Montgomery over Woody marks. David Montgomery played 63% of the snaps last week. So it's like this is still their leader at this point. Yes. But it was it was a difficult match up. Now they are they're playing against the Cowboys. Like this could be a very this could be a week where David Montgomery is benched in a lot of leagues and has two touchdowns again on your bench. So are you playing him against a Dallas defenses ranked 25th so far? Or are you playing Javonte who gets everything against the number two Houston. I would play David Montgomery. So that's interesting. You guys should bet like a hundred dollars on you. I don't know about I'm not bullish. Not bullish on David Montgomery. He only bets on Naren Rogers. I bet he's a man of principle. I bet it's the Browns. Okay. In this game, by the way, Nico Collins could be back. Well, he was seen practicing again on Thursday and you play him. They would need him. CD lamb George Pickens Mike started the week play him. And then Jake Ferguson, he has managed to score in two straight weeks. He has a touchdown or bus tied in, but you could maybe do worse than a high over undergame than sliding him into your lineup. If you need to Ferguson, Mike or Colson, lovely. Wow. Wow. Let's finish our matchup talk with that Ferguson. All right. This also feels like a playoff game. Like one of these teams between a one and two and one three teams. I said, like you lose your toes. I see what you mean. One of these teams is going to be, you know, really, if you're own fours, the Texans. Yeah. It's over. Wow. And if the Cowboys lose in their one and three, they're they're going to feel like it's you're right. It's tough to know. I get it. You're right. Absolutely. Dalton Schultz. It is a revenge game for him. He's got the second most targets. He is a if Nico doesn't play Stark to me. Seahawks have designated running bags. Zach Sharminator returned to practice, guys. Oh, straight away. Jardarian price. Yeah. I don't think it's too late. Who's buying? I think the bag is in your hands much like Monti right now. Yeah. After week one. That was fantasy forecast presented by price picks. Make sure to follow our account at the FF ballers in the app to see our best picks every week. Price picks run your game. We'll say goodbye for today. We'll be back tomorrow. Thursday night football tonight. We'll recap it. We'll talk matchups. We'll talk fantasy face off. We'll talk wheel of shame tomorrow. And it's not me. Oh, it's me. Goodbye. That's not listening to another episode of the fantasy footballers podcast. Join our fantasy football community on JoinTheFoot.com. And follow us on Twitter at the FF Ballers.

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. The podcast discusses key fantasy football starts and matchups, including Pukinakua’s return and its impact on wide receiver decisions.
  2. Weather and team matchups significantly influence start selections, especially for Sunday Night Football games.
  3. Mike Evans and Jaylen Waddle are highlighted as key players due to their practice status and injury concerns.
  4. Benching players like Jalen Coker or Tucker Craft is considered due to injury risks, while starting others like Tyler Schuck or Sam Darnold is based on matchups and team performance.
  5. The team emphasizes the value of depth and flexibility, noting that players like John Johnson and Devonte Adams remain strong options despite volatility.
  6. A major debate centers on whether to start Darren Waller over Tucker Craft in Detroit due to matchup and injury dynamics.
  7. The forecast highlights high over-under lines, particularly in matchups involving the Rams, Bengals, and Packers, indicating potential for high-scoring games.
  8. The discussion includes trade considerations, with DJ Moore seen as a high-impact, injury-resilient asset and Devonte Adams viewed as a stable, long-term value.

Summary:

The podcast delivers a comprehensive fantasy football analysis for Week 4, focusing on key player starts, injury updates, and matchup dynamics. Major developments include Pukinakua’s return, which shifts wide receiver strategies and elevates the value of players like McMillan and Ted McMillan. Weather conditions, especially for Sunday Night Football, are noted as critical factors in start decisions.

The hosts evaluate wide receivers such as Mike Evans, Jaylen Waddle, and Tyler Schuck, emphasizing their health and situational performance. Key matchups like the Bengals, Packers, and Rams are highlighted, with high over-under projections suggesting explosive scoring. Injury reports for players like Jalen Coker, Devonte Adams, and Makai Limit are discussed, influencing depth chart decisions.

The team debates whether to start Darren Waller or Tucker Craft in Detroit, citing defensive weaknesses and injury risks. Trade potential is also explored, with DJ Moore viewed as a high-impact, injury-resilient asset and Devonte Adams as a stable long-term value. Overall, the analysis underscores the importance of flexibility, matchup context, and player health in shaping strategic decisions.

The discussion reflects the volatility of early-season fantasy football, where player availability and game environments can drastically alter performance expectations.

FAQs

Ted McMillan is being considered as a start due to strong utilization and favorable matchup against a defense that allows a lot of receiving yards. However, the weather and potential injuries to Jalen Coker may influence the decision.

Yes, Pukinakua is expected to play, which changes the dynamic for managers and may lead to shifts in starting decisions, especially if other wide receivers are underperforming.

Weather can significantly impact game conditions, especially for outdoor games. A rainy or stormy weather could affect performance and lead to a decision to start a different player, such as McMillan, over others.

Darren Waller is recommended as a start, especially if Jalen Coker is out, due to high snap share and matchup advantages. Tucker Craft could be considered for a flex role but may not have the same consistency.

The return of Pukinakua creates a viable option for managers to shift starting decisions, especially when other wide receivers like McMillan or Williams are underperforming or limited in targets.

Yes, Mike Evans is expected to play despite not practicing, as general manager John Lynch emphasized his commitment to playing through injuries.

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