Spittin' Chiclets Episode 683: Featuring Sal Frelick

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Welcome to episode six, eight, three of the spin checkers podcast pinkies up. Wait, pinkies up. No Reese is up Reese's guys. I got my plate. I love showing my plate. We got the microphone covers. And I actually brought over today. This is a Reese's fast break combo that I'm going to eat right in your face because what else would get me going on a wonderful podcast Monday. Oh my god. Oh my god. Is it rude to talk with your mouth? It's your name too. Not if it's Reese's not if it's Reese's. This is so good. The fast break Reese's combo. Reese's so many different options. So many different flavors. Shout out Reese's present question. Answer. Give me a what do you have a question? Do you think you played so well at the invitation because it was sponsored by Reese's. I wasn't even a lot of Reese's out there. Before we get into that before we get into the New Jersey devil's being cowards. Can I love sunny meta. I love sorry. I cannot wait to have on. I actually love sunny meta. But I'm a professional. And I'm going to call them all cowards. We'll get into that. We'll get we'll get into a hellicent trying to murder. Conor McDavid. Very dirty play. We'll talk about that. I told you horses. I'm host of the fucking show. We'll get into that later. We'll get into cutter. Goat. The who's maybe the sickest bastard of all time and flyers fans are losing their mind. Every goal that scored. They snap more and more. And there's a million hockey things to talk about. And we got internet invitation because this thing is just hot in the streets was I almost the biggest choke artists of all time and then turned into a real legit. Possibly some are saying superstar. But before all that. Biz. I was so happy to hear you're a busy man and for many years you haven't taken time to just like. Take a day off here there. You're just so driven and focused and I respect the hell of it. And our show is as big as it is because of you, but this year you've decided to just kind of unwind for a couple of days. And you did it this weekend. Deep sea fishing in Key West. I thought we were start with the internet. Votational stuff. No, no, no, no. I kind of want to talk a weekend first. It was unbelievable. I went with with my buddy Justin and my buddy Tim. They're my financial advisors at a buffalo. And they they were going on this fishing trip. And I we're already going to be going down there to do the sandbagger with the kechucks. But they were like, hey, would you want to bounce over to Key West for a couple of days and do some deep sea fishing. Like obviously I talked about my obsession with fly fishing and which then he ends destroyed me. And then yeah, so I decided to go man and what a trip. I mean, like we had this we had this a guy named Brad, like I have his Instagram phone. But oh, oh, buddy. This guy was expert fisherman. He knew exactly where to go. The first day we got on the boat. And we went about about 50 60 miles. Offshore until like more of a golf side. Yeah, more of the golf side. So you start out by you go get the live bait. Right. So they had a couple little islands that you pass along the way. And you throw that big net. And then boom, you get all your live bait. So there's probably a we got about what probably 500 of these live minos that are about this big. I think they're called minos, right. I don't think so. Well, they're not minos are real small. Yeah. Okay. Well, either way, they're like, like that's where you know, they're like this big. So you go get the live bait. We went out about, you know, whatever it was like 50 60 miles. There was a couple like shipwrecks, which is kind of crazy. You see, like one of them was a guy who was like, um, Like they would him and his son would go look for treasure. And his, his boat, I love sinking him at the time. I think it was like in the 80s. They didn't have the type of technology. So the father and son had it up passing. But a lot of these fish end up hanging out around these wrecks, right. Like in the crevices of it all the shade. They find the shade. Yeah, with shade. I don't know if that's where they go to pound town. It's kind of messing with us on that. Is that true. No, I think that they go to pound town. It's like we're like their their their version of hedonism. All right. All right. Yeah. I'm running. He's fucking pounded a bull shark. Um, but what was crazy is we were like, you're not going to get lucky all time. But the first day, we fucking caught anything. I have a list of stuff that we caught. You're bearing the lead though, because you actually catching that bull shark in the video. That is, that is, we fought this thing for probably about an hour. So it was around that shipwreck. There, there's the video of it. I think came from under the boat. I was I was watching at the airport. I was like, what the But the best part is is like, you don't You don't want to catch a bull shark. Right. It's just a waste of a waste of time effort. You're not going to eat it. Right. So Well, but here's the thing though. It wasn't because at that point on day one, we caught a copia. We caught mutton snappers, mangrove snappers, red grouper. Oh my god. We caught a carol mackerel, which is like you kind of eat like sashimi. Like it's a pretty, pretty good one yellowtail snapper. And then we caught a baracuda. So at that point, we had, we'd add all this fish that we were going to eat. And then Justin and Tim were going to like cut it up and then freeze it and send it back up up north to Buffalo. So of one of the fish that we caught or a few of them were like, oh, we'll use this as bait to maybe catch like a bigger fish. Well, all of a sudden we had, we put that on the thick line and like, and then all of a sudden you hear that like this thing starts running out. And then at first, the one guy grabbed it and he was battling it for about 10 minutes. We didn't know, we didn't know it was a bull shark at first. But usually the group are like the big ones, the 80 pound ones, you'll kind of know because they'll give up a lot sooner and just how far near the ship, shipwreck that this thing, the line went out. It must have went out like 600 yards. So we spent the next hour between the three of us just like trying to really grind it by foot, like you get like 10 15 feet in. And then he'd run out 15 feet, but then like slowly he started tiring out or she, I should say, because I didn't have being a female bull shark. But we didn't like once again, we didn't know the Brad, the expert fisherman that we had on our guide about halfway through. He's like, this has to be some form of shark and maybe a bull shark. Because I didn't realize that they have the most testosterone of any shark like a bull shark, too. It didn't look that scary though. They did it all, but where it's teeth, they're in there, small little tiny one, but they have like, I think that with their bites are some of the nastiest bites. I believe the way that they're clean, they should like they shred it. Yeah, it's like a shrapnel almost, you know, yeah. So like they're they're the most aggressive shark in the ocean. The second deadliest other than the great white now, there might be some people who message me and rebuttal on that. But I guess they go into shallow waters, too. They'll get you in shallow waters. That's what's even crazier, but we were like whatever 50 miles off shore. And we were only in 40, 50 deep water, 40, 50 deep water. So it stayed shallow and that's I guess in the Gulf, why it stays a lot warmer. And maybe that's why they were all over there. And I agree like most people are like, well, you just spend an hour of energy to just like let, let something go. But at that point, we had more than enough food to last this like, fuck a month. And to use one of those fish to bait that and then get that. So here's what's crazier. So we had this unbelievable first day fishing. We go back and key. If you guys ever been to Key West, yeah, as you have it, what a cool strip, awesome. Very laid back like it would have been this boat race week where they They do all the four engines, like each of them are like 450 horsepower boats, all like the cigarette style boats and like on the main drag on the Friday, they had them all set up on their, on their trailers and they had like the phone party going on the streets. I hit. It was greasy. Yeah. This is our. This is our April. Oh, our a would have been thriving. I think that like it would be something that you would see in a one ton dawn hour and a half long video where he just like finds this place and goes down there. And like chumps it up with the locals. Tons of amazing little pubs and bars. So as far as like a low key place that has a bit of a vibe, that is it. Like I would go to Key West like once every two months to go on like a two day fish and trip. So you also a lot of these restaurants, you bring the fish and they'll prepare each fish like these different types of ways. So the food was incredible. You bring your catch. They cook it up. We saw this. We saw this one live performer is a local guy plays with his father. This guy was 10 out of 10 like his like he played every all these old school bangers. So night one was a success day two. We go out. We decide to go to the the Atlantic side. So not in the golf. We go out about probably about 20 miles offshore. No fucking word of a lie. We hook the first to the two like minnows or whatever. We throw them in. Boom. Mahi Mahi. Boom. Next one. Another Mahi Mahi. We never caught a Mahi Mahi the rest of the day. It was lock of the draw. We really didn't even see to another Mahi Mahi the rest of the truck. Oh, they got those buckers. They are delicious and they're stunning. They could they could be this big or they could be they were decent size. I sent that one picture to G so he'll be able to get a massive one. Here G. I'll heart the photo. That's the Mahi Mahi. They're the ones that were in the freezer. They're a beautiful fish too like when they come out there callers and every time I show you through here. Yeah. What? That's what they look like. Beautiful. Beautiful. Now that's Brad right there. That was our our guide. If I'll end up pulling up his name here. He's got like an Instagram. I'll promote it. But he like. So we got we got Mahi Mahi. I'll pull up the other fish that we caught on day two. You get any squared square grouper. I don't know if we got any square grouper. That's like a in the keys when like the barrels of like cocaine or marijuana would wash up. They call it square grouper because it was like boxed in a square. Oh wow. Yeah. So there's there's the one Mahi Mahi that one I believe is either the male or the female. And then the the the other sex has a more like walkie style head. Yeah. Bigger for that. They got the big ass five head on them. Oh yeah. So we got a Goliath grouper on day two. Oh wow. Obviously the Mahi Mahi. We got a like a 65 pounder and we got like an 85 pounder. What a trip. A yellow jack and a horse a horse. I jack. How was your seasickness throughout this? Not bad. I didn't get seasick one bit. It was probably just from being used to it all summer like just an oh and this this band and and most people who are listening who have been to Key West or live around there are going to know this band Marshall Moore lock was the guy and we went and saw him and this guy was 10 and a 10 performer. He was getting out in the crowd like he had these like board shorts on with like a cut off sleeve under armor short with a goal chain. So they just like just a pure rocker right like that better than 10. He they 10 phase got their own original music. This guy was playing all covers but unreal and this guy's name was Brad no wiki. So I just got to show him out and he's on off the rock charters and he was he was tremendous like couldn't it couldn't have asked for a better guide kind of like Lance when we had in the the wonton peeking video out into Fino but that's enough about my fishing trip but I appreciate that with and I think that sometimes you know especially when I first retired. I think part of it was fear based because I was let go and my career was cut short. So I was like you know you go into a little bit of a depression for that. So then you're like I got a work work work because I don't want to fucking lose this opportunity and I think that maybe a little bit of reality said in where you need a better balance and structure in your life once in a while need an escape you got to get back to normal life. So I appreciate those comments and and I would love to we should go down there and have like a little fishing tourney with it with a little fish that's our chance to be with big buff. Yeah. I think I think I'll do I mean I get C-sec too like I got a real real pussy stomach. Yeah. But I'll take whatever medication I have to hang out with big buff. Tell me your cruise story. What cruise when you went to Alaska. Oh, I went to Alaska actually your dad had in your grab right now with my cousins the three oldest boy cousins and our grandfather. And I miss the select 716 festival which is a big dog dad. That was like the top summer thing and and I couldn't believe my dad's like no you're going to Alaska with your cousins and your grandfather and we one of the days we went out fishing. My cousin I was 16 obviously and so I would make my older cousin who was like 23. I'd be like you have to get so drunk and just let me watch you get drunk and you'd get completely loaded and I just like laugh at them. It was a great week. I didn't even drink that or anything but we went fishing we went salmon fishing we went out there we we went out I mean I think we were on a boat for nine hours and I started I started puking 50 minutes in no I puked for nine hours they're like we ain't going in buddy just deal with it look at the kept going look at the horizon it doesn't move I'm like I'm looking at the horizon you slept on the boat no I puked on the boat and then I got back to what you had to stay on there for nine hours yeah because once we'd gone out like we're not going back in my cousins are loving life drinking beers and I'm just sitting there puking and we went back to the boat there are boat and I slept for twenty four straight hours miss the cruise I was done I missed sunsets I missed glaciers I missed animals climbing on glaciers I miss seven and I was a brutal but it's a great trip but that was that was tough what it was it 33 hours right I mean that's just not an on an ideal situation so I'm not a deep sea fisherman type of guy but I'll make an exception I promise for Big buff and and for for anyone who wants to maybe get a piece of our content deep sea fishing or me puked and I so Dave doesn't live too far from Key West he has a place probably about an hour away I believe fuck Dave yeah well I appreciate you letting me start off but the main reason why I wanted to jump on today is we haven't been promoting or talking about the internet rotational as much because we want to let people get caught up the first two videos were five hours long each we didn't want to do any spoilers but I'll say two things be prepared for spoilers here if you haven't watched up to Monday's episode which is episode five our boy Whitney is putting on a fucking clinic so I'm not going to say I'm putting on a clinic yes you are shut the fuck up you're unbelievable and with you talk about like sucking it up and going on a boat to get some fishing some of these trips you guys go to Ireland I would legit come just to get waffled and watch you play golf that's how much joy I legit if you want I will be your guy's bitch and drive around in the golf cart get you guys drink set up dinners set up whatever you want in order to watch you play consider your old NHL career it's that's kind of kind of what I've been doing the whole time just riding everybody's like that kind of what I've been doing exactly and for the small amount of people that will say you guys let off the show with 30 minutes of golf talk I can't emphasize this enough suck a fart out of my asshole I don't give a fuck what you think I know this is a hockey podcast this is getting more traction on YouTube than the masters is getting on YouTube this is the biggest thing going on probably in the sporting world right now as far as at least online internet content if you want to laugh at that it's scoff at that post all the numbers to all the engagement and all the Instagram and whatever fucking may be this is the talk of the town so if you don't want spoilers or you don't care for golf talk fast forward if you message me online I'm gonna find you like Tony S. Cargo and I'm going to take a shit on your porch so not only a dump yeah I'm going to take a shit on your fucking porch so wit have the floor buddy and we're going to chime in with shit that we witnessed the greatness of we got to just enjoy it and follow him around it was like me and you driving around with some of the funnest we've ever had on a golf course and we didn't take one swing I'll say I'll say that the clip that that I loved was in my one-on-one match was Sabrina which by the way I mean I got more that's a picture with all of all the hatred I've gotten over the years and show no 10 years of chick let's be mentioned the shirt last episode 10 years and there's been moments where I've gotten true hatred spewed my way nothing has come after like like like what happened after I didn't want to play Sabrina I didn't want to play a girl now that was the reaction that was the picture when Dave put me up against the girl I didn't want to play a girl like I don't know what you want me to tell that does not mean I don't respect how incredible women golfers are there are thousands if not tens of thousands of women in the world that would crush me in golf I am not like that has nothing to do with this I just knew this is a mental battle this entire thing between me in Dave that's what I'm thinking it's like I'm like obviously I want to try to win this tournament but it's more like I gotta get Dave and he's trying to get me and he'll try to say I'm he's he wants nothing but bad things to happen to me so that's in my mind so at the time of the one-on-ones being put together I know I know what that guy's gonna do to me before he knows what he's gonna do to me because I know the whole premise of it is make him look as bad as humanly possible that's a true friend sometimes I will say that I sent a tweet on I've never hated and liked someone more I can't even describe how I actually hate him but I actually love him too it's a very odd relationship I think it's like northeast type Boston type friendships if you call it a friendship sometimes it's an enemy ship so listen I didn't want to play a girl it was a lose lose I knew he'd say oh you beat a girl big deal when actually that says more about him saying like oh you beat a girl big deal while some girls are amazing Sabrina's a good player and then if I lose he's like you lost to a girl so like what like I said before like this makes him look worse that's at least what I'm going with but I'll tell you right now I knew what was gonna happen so when he and then I also knew when I said get rid of the cameras I knew that shit was gonna make it but some of the times they did put the camera down and then you didn't see my face as I said things which I kind of respect because my face might have made it look even worse that I was just so disgusted but listen I played some I played or no they caught it great well that was right when he announced it that's right when he announced it no no Sabrina and I match never it never end I and that's okay so that's another thing and then I'm two up through four I believe I just powered the first four holes and then she's like people told me you suck or people said you're so bad and I said I'm dusting you like and I got people coming at me over that this is the one message I really got a I got a real kick on this message where is this fucking loser girl oh I just got another one you're a fucking wet wipe I'd absolutely destroy you in a match all right buddy you're right in me where is this girl that wrote me this message I don't even know don't feel panic this is great the anticipation yeah some girl Carol it be like me like we're talking about that could you beat up ronda rousey it's just it's there's a no win situation it's a no win situation to beat up a girl or you get beat up my girl no no listen she says your reactions the biggest loser move that could have come out of this match up you lost before you even started I was one-up with one to go when we finished you moron carolina pouting and bitching with fear dout and lack of balls to be a man and respect a female in any sense whether you beat her in a fair game where she kicks your ass like the bitch you are now that was a girl who said that to you does a girl and I had like 50 things written back and one of them was like blow me now you could say that to a guy I did not send it anything back I did not send anything but I do think as a married man you can write back to a hater online a woman hater blow me I don't think that's going over well now here's the thing once this all ended I knew we got called off because white one white one what a wagon white hat and all the other people telling me you suck you suck I hate you you're an asshole you're mean on the course like I'm competing let me tell you something when I'm competing and competing on camera mind you I'm going 100% every single time when I'm in the foul and cup when I'm making these incredible pots to win the tournament and my streaming and yelling no it's classy it's not on camera I'm making content you dumb fuck yeah now let me tell you this our team one and people said you got you got carried by Micah no shit you morons I got to play with the best golfer there and I just laughed it up the whole time hit a couple shots and just got him waters and got him whatever I cleaned his ball not balls that was amazing they put that in it was ball I didn't mean balls okay balls he had we got it ball exactly you you took on my role for a match big fucking deal for two matches feels nice yeah well no for well for two matches the scramble I did nothing all shot I had to do something and then in the singles match I was playing Sabrina showed up playing a girl and so white moves on now we get up there and not to be lost though is like I thought that online after this video was released I love the banter back and forth between you two like she took it like a champ you were joking joking on on Twitter about it as well by the end I said Sabrina there was nothing like it's nothing like personal wasn't like I don't understand you're a great golfer I just work for the biggest scumbag in the business and I knew he was trying to make me look like an idiot so the girls in that tournament are some of the biggest shit talkers that are there I know they didn't obviously which is great like they were shit talking when you were playing in the singles matches we were obviously trying to help you out shit talking and they were shit talking me back it was fucking beautiful that's it I will get there predator that when she chirped me and says like everyone says you suck I dumped a three wood I hit it like 10 yards in the air directly into a hazard right after she said it so like hey like bravo Sabrina great job and then I made a double that hold now did I come back the next one make birdie in front of you guys and then after have you guys drive by me doing pink Whitney did you see my face I was like it was such a love for two brothers that I was just so happy to see you guys so either way white wind so we get called in and at this point nobody knows what's going on where you draft the four best players big John Micah ruffles and Grant now have to draft three players each because there's 16 people left on white and the whole time we were discussing like how do you get this down to six people because well this is what's crazy though is right after you just after that match you just described you guys were unaware that this is going to happen you think everyone thinks their day is over and like okay we survived the day and then Dave drops the bomb on you guys hey four you guys are going home tonight and then and but at that point everybody played golf all day everybody's exhausted so they that's when he he announced what you're talking about right now when you got back to like the half shack then not only does he announce that and nobody has any idea I'll remind everyone I left from the Fallon Cup I slept one hour after we won that's true I went to I got to nantucket we flew with Dave and then I just I had to keep drinking like there and listen like when you're on like kind of a bender there you can't come off it it's like I have to keep doing so I was just getting up there we know we watch so we can we know I had your birthday party Saturday night it was not it was it had been by that by the point in this tournament I was waking up in the morning and working out and like I'll do a 30 minute workout in my room and like stretch and then I would make a big vodka and I just be like all right here we go so so now this is a bottle I would legit have an unreal glaze on like push up stretch and then I'd pour this giant botch like I there's the only way I could keep doing it so we play in the morning you almost killed Kins like Kinsner Kinsner almost died from drinking and the thing is it's not like you were finishing the day with and going to bed we would order fucking three racks of beer bring him over the the our little cabin and a few people would come over and we would drink to like 12 30 want a clock in the morning and then you get up and by we you mean us because Kins would just come lead our food drink our beer and pay for nothing he was come over tell stories get waffled and just literally walk home like he was like he was one of those like blow up things outside a carburetor he'd be speaking Mandarin yeah that's what you'd see him like what up Kins so the singles match ends and now we're driving and now we have not been told what's going on yet from Dave so I was like oh my god I got out of that singles match I didn't win I was dormi but like it actually was best case scenario for me I didn't lose I was winning and we got called off so whatever so I was like oh I'm just gonna smoke a little like my days done kind of a stressful day we're moving on right so I've been drinking all day and then you smoke a little bit and you're kind of you're in one and we get up there and he's like well the number ones are playing and then the number twos are playing and I swear to God I don't know if he would have done that had he not seen me as the number two now maybe I'm totally overguessing how bad he wants me to look bad but but either way I was like oh my god I I could be no I could still have to play golf like that's in my head I'm like I could still have to play golf right now and then I'm like Mike is gonna birdie this whole though like somebody isn't gonna birdie it I'm not gonna have to play I'm not can you describe the format with so the format was that the the number one guys big John Grant Micah and and what's the fourth ruffles they're going down the the first hole at Buffalo Ridge and the worst like the best scores moving on and if three other it was kind of confusing where it wasn't like the worst score was going home if there was like three bars and one birdie the birdie team moves on all four of those players and then the three par teams their number two picks are then playing the second hole also I should remember I should remind people of that people know the second hole at Buffalo Ridge is very tight and the whole left the whole left side is rocks where if you I guess you could hit the rocket could bounce in the fairway but 99 out of 100 times you're completely dead and then the right side is woods and just death I had played that whole including practice rounds four times I had lost my drive all four times no shit right so in my head already I'm like oh my god so if I still play this is like the this is probably my least favorite of it whole like one of the least failed holes I've ever played. Well, Micah hits a drive. He hit his drive 380 yards, I think. Like he was, I think he was 40 yards in front of the next person. And then Selim's over there, the dream's over there. Hey, come on, just talk of driving range and he's looking his eye and he's so smothered, so buckled. And I'm like Selim, let him hit. Well, Micah, he's too jacked up, right? It just goes long, okay? Like he just, he went long. I thought it was in the hazard. Either way, Big John makes this incredible birdie up and down out of the bunker. Their teams moving on, ruffles like two potted for birdie, their teams moving on. So now it's Micah's team and it's Grant's team and the number twos are now playing. And there's only two of us left. Jake Adams and myself, boys, I cannot tell you how nervous I was. I've never in my life felt like this. - No shit. - Ever, ever. And I've played like amateur tournaments and remember, like I've played a lot of competitive golf, but never, ever have I felt like that. - So what's going through your head? Are you like, you're just realizing like so many people are gonna be watching this? I can't lose this. - No, I wasn't even in the thoughts. - I wasn't even thinking that, I actually was never thinking of the people that were gonna see it. I was thinking of Dave, I was thinking it. - No, I was thinking that. - No, I was thinking of Dave in terms of like, this is gonna make a, like this is, he's got this, he's got this forever on me if I choke here. I also considered that Jake would just pipe on. Jake's a very good golfer, right? And he goes first, dude, the kid duffed it. And I think they mentioned like his arm was shaking. He was so nervous. I gotta talk to him. I haven't even spoken to him 'cause like everyone's so waffled and it's just it ended. He had to be as nervous as I was because he duffed the three wood like 40 yards. Now at that point, I was like, oh my God, I'm like, now this is mine really to lose. I was kind of like even more, I had my three wood, I had my driver. The only reason I picked driver was because it was a bigger, like thing to hit the ball with because I'm so nervous. And I just saw what he did with a three wood, buddy. When I made impact with this drive, I could have pukeed. I could have thrown up. I knew it was off the plan. I'm like, I think. We're literally in a cart right by where you hit it. No, I went on the other side to the roadside to have eyes on the ball. Yeah, yeah, you and G were on that side. Okay, so I hit it and I'm like, that's that's off the planet gone. Like and then I hear everyone behind me. Frank, he's like, oh my God, and I rigged. He's like, that's out of bounds. That's gone. And if you see, I'm just holding my club, letting everyone know it's dead right. And I'm just sitting there with a heart rate of probably 170 being like, please tell me it's in. Just give me like give me a chance. Like if it's out of bounds, imagine that ending and all of a sudden I hear we got it. We got it. And I swear a relief came over me. I'm like, I'm in, I'm in, I'm going to make par. I said to myself, I go, I'm going to punch it out. If I had a punch out and I'm going to hit it on, I'm going to make par. And then Jake hits like a great ball down and I get up there. And it's like kind of on a hill. I'm standing on rock. It was there was a cart path and then there was like a rocky slope into where like a tree was. And it was just hanging on to like the way I was looking back towards the way you teed off. The cart pass was on the left. The ball was just to the right of it. But it was more about your lie and how your feet were placed while you had to actually try to make contact with his ball. I was. Yeah. You look like a Billy goat trying to hit like I'm not an ankle guy either. I think we've made that clear on this show. What do you think that ball was above your feet when you hit it? I don't think it was too crazy. I don't know. A foot. I don't just like the way. That's crazy. That's crazy. Maybe not even a foot. I'll say, I'll say boys, I really like really remember that much from this. I mean, we've mentioned what was going on. What I know, I haven't seen the footage at obviously because it's, it, this comes out in like 25 minutes. But by the time, you know, we're just doing this because everyone I've seen it. So I don't know if they showed, but Big Cat was up there and said where it ended up. It probably landed like 50 yards right of that. And he said it was like a sprinkle ball rolling down this hill in the woods, barely missing trees, rolling, barely missing boulders and just funneling all the way down to where it gets the cart path and it stops just after the car path. So probably one of the luckiest bounces in the history of golf to even have a shot to punch it out. Right. And I get up there and people tell me get solid footing, it's like buddy, I don't even have solid footing when I'm on normal ground with my back standing on my back. And then I had a little window, I was able to punch it out now Jake. So we're both punched out. I was probably like 40 yards in front of him as far as I can remember. And then he hit a great shot and when he hit his shot, I couldn't really see it. Look like it was like five feet away and then I don't know, somebody said, oh, it's 20 feet. And then I will say this, after I punched it out, I really was super confident and calm because like sometimes when my driver's off, it's off and it was off. It wasn't great at all the whole time. But I love like my game from like 80 yards and in. I was like, I'm going to hit this close. I'm going to have a putt at this. I'm going to be where he is or better. And I put it to a better spot and I drove up and I looked and I don't know if this is in the video and I looked at one of you guys and I said, this is literally the pot I hit to win the fountain. Yeah. He said it to me. I go, I'm making this and I walked up and then he said, good, good. And let me tell you boys, he could say he was kidding and like, maybe he was kidding. I don't know. I don't necessarily think he was kidding. I really don't. Now he probably knows there's no chance we're even allowed to do it or, but just the comment itself, I was like, he's not making this. Like I would never say that. I would never even that just puts into my mind that you have zero confidence right now. And like I said, this guy's a way better golfer than me, but like the nerves of it all was just at another level and he had to go first. Correct. Yeah. He was probably. Yeah. He was probably. I don't remember. I would have been in your interest to do it to begin with because he was farther, but you're saying the fact that he like, normally if you're doing that, you're, you're each a couple feet away, right? Yeah. If you ever do it inches, it's just like, I don't want to put it. If you say good, good, it's like, I don't want to put it. I think that's the difference between, you know, you played in front of 20,000 people for a long time. And even Grant, you saw him putting shake and like, he's played a lot of competitive golf and stuff, but not in front of people like that. So I bet your mental state was so much better than a guy who's just golf. Well, my mental state was that I got more comfortable every single shot, which kind of makes sense considering like when my T ball is bad, I'm standing over T ball sometimes. I'm like, I have no clue where this thing's going. Like I do not. And then as I got closer and closer and then I saw the putt and I was actually as calm. I don't even think I had a heart, a high heart rate when I hit that putt. Wow. It was so confident over that putt. I've never, I've actually, I'll say I've never felt better over a putt than that putt. And, and, and now listen, if you actually, were you trying to, well, the, the other, no, buddy, I saw, I drove up and I said, I'm making a putt. I wasn't even a, you also at that point, if you missed it, it was just going to the third player on the next hole, very trusted by 10 feet and missed them. Come back. Yeah. Yeah. But, but I have to think that that's a great call like looking back like I wasn't going to three putt it. I didn't think. But so I guess knowing like, hey, we, I didn't lose it for us as long as I two putt this. That's probably the correct thing I should have said. But that's, I don't, I don't really say the correct thing a lot in my life. So that's probably the problem here. But I, like I said, I was very confident and I made it. And I just remember thinking like where's Dave, that's all I remember. I was like, where is, he's a little rent free. Oh, yeah. I was like, where is this motherfucker? And then I finally saw him and I, I think I was pushing him. I was, I was yelling at him. I think I went back at him another time and I just knew and I, I don't know what he said on the, like I wonder if he said, yeah, I was really hoping he missed it because if he didn't say that, he's a liar. He's an absolute diabetic. If he's sitting there saying he didn't want me to miss that putt. But incredible. I mean, in, in less than a week's time, you won the foul and cop and then you have your big John moment in front of the whole golf community on YouTube. That's a fun. I don't, I don't consider it like on the same level as big John. What do you mean? You're far into the funnels. Yeah. Yeah, I know. But he made, his was a longer putt and his was for birdie and like I got the best bouts of all time. So I kind of choked off the tee. I did choke off the tee. It was the same day putt against a girl. You had to get through that. You finish your round after being buckled for the last seven days. You're on an absolute heater. Then you rip a joint, thinking your day is over and then you got to go up there in the bowling alley and, and then fucking tee it off a foot or hit a second shot, a foot above your feet. I don't know, man, that was like, I was standing next to G and like we had the bucket a pink Whitney ready to go. Like we were as confident as you were that you were going to drain that. That was is like one of the bigger online moments, if not the biggest online moment in Chico's history, buddy. So I can't wait to see. I cannot wait to like see how it all came out. And I'm guessing I'm gonna be pretty disgusted with like how I acted after because like, I don't even really remember like shaking Jake's hand or like, I do remember seeing Micah because I also, he had picked me second. And I think he probably should have picked, I don't think Marissa had been picked yet who's really good. I don't think, and there was somebody else. He picked me because we were comfortable together. And then he had carried me the first three events of the tournament. So I remember being like, I gotta do this for this guy. Now mind you, a year ago I was calling him Micah and I couldn't stand him. And at this point, I'm just hoping to hit a pot to bury Dave and then help out Micah. My guy Micah. So I don't, I'm sure there's gonna be my reaction might probably get me even more hate. And once again, this year I'm still despised online by the YouTube team. - I didn't wait, you're a little bit like, I think you're misunderstood. I think that you're Boston like a cocky guy, I'm too. - I think I am too. - And like, but what's, - I think I am too. - I don't think I'm as bad of a guy as everyone thinks I am. - No, no, I think, you're worse. - No. - Coming from someone that you shit on a lot, like I just think you're misunderstood. And that's just, that's not me making excuses for you. And you know what? When the other person on the other side doesn't take themselves as seriously considering you don't take yourself, that's serious. Like look at how it ended with Marissa. You guys are playing tummy sticks online. - Sabrina, Sabrina, Sabrina. - Sabrina, like playing tummy sticks online. Like even like Jake after he probably hears this, he's gonna be like all good if you didn't shake my hand. Like I know that you were in the moment. - I hope I did, dude. I don't even, but I don't remember. - You and Jake were a wagon of a team last year, weren't you? - Yeah. - We went one and one, he was really good. I wasn't good in the one we lost. - Hey, boy, Marissa, I'm never, I probably never feel anything like that in terms of pressure on a T-Box, the rest of my life, which kind of disappoints me a little bit. There's the pot. - You fucking tighter walked it through. I remember that, you tighter walked it in. I knew when I saw it go in, I said, and I said, that's in. I said that's in. Okay, so there's me and Micah. - But you weren't saying suck my dick a million times like Jake John, so that's a good improvement. - Oh, there's Selim, Selim. - Selim. - There's Bobby was on my team, and I think Bobby probably, oh, there he is, he was walking loser. - HR. - Yeah, look at this loser. Yeah, you're my guy, this guy. And he won't even admit. He won't even admit that he wants me to, to, I don't, yeah, I don't, I don't, I don't remember this. I do not even remember this. I don't, I thought there was bio words going on. - I have to see him zone pink, Whitney. - This seems way more relaxed than I remember it. - I have to club soda, mix it with water, whatever you want. - Dancing. - Oh, I knew it. - Okay, so that's probably a clip. People are not gonna love, but I did. I was being honest in the moment. My adrenaline was ripping, and I, and I did know I was gonna make it. So that's probably like an arrogant look for me. But once again, once again, if we're not filming, making content, I'm not acting like this. At least I don't think so. There's probably some buddies who might disagree with that. All the people I play golf with it, is it on camera? But yeah, I mean, an incredible, an incredible moment. - But buddy, this is how like, this is what makes the internet invitational so special. Like there is shit talking. And we've just gotten to your matches. Like, look what was going on between rigs and Chetty. Like, I was dialed into that. We were following you around, and Chetty came up and was kind of telling us in the midst how his round was chaotic, and Justin Gage, he was involved in that way. I think Bob does was the other guy in that course. I'm correct. - Have you seen the picture of Salim and Kyle going at it, the melt guys, like, that was a fucking battle on the course, man, it came down from the last ball. - Gruden was fucking gonna kill someone. - No, Gruden early on wanted, I think Selim on the first hole dead because he was taking so long. And then by the end, Gruden and Selim are hugging, and Selim's crying, driving in. This tournament boys, it's unreal. But this is the picture. This picture, I have laughed at this picture. No less than a hundred times. Bob, Bob. - And may I remind you, and we talked about how he drank for a week, and mentally he was a little exhausted. He's doing these lather up workouts at 6am. It's about 120 degrees in the Ozarks with a hundred things. Your nut sack is sweating the entire day. You're just leaking electrolytes. Selim the dream was wearing a windbreaker, track pants, the entire time. - Yep. - With the 0.0 chance of rain. - And Selim did, I'm pretty sure somebody said, that day he had done 18 shots of tequila. - Oh yeah. - And he would just get, he would just get the nip, and he would 18 of them boys in 120 degree temperature with fucking rain pants on. But this picture is, this picture of Bob and Selim's face, I think it's one of the funniest pictures. - I love Selim. I love the dream. Let's just put it that way. - The dream, the dream. And for him to swing it like that, being, he made me look like I had been in AA for 10 years boys. He was, he was completely, like I'm talking blacked out to the max, and he was swinging it. He was hitting it unbelievable. I think he parred the last hole with four perfect shots, like a drive, a layup, an approach, and a perfect long leg pot to be Kyle. - He literally drank himself into Freddie couples. - Yes. - He turned into Freddie couples. His complexion went later. He got smoother. The whole kit and caboodle. - And then, the point where he got picked up for a question and I've watched this so much. Chetty, Chetty not knowing what ball he's playing, buddy, for 1.3 million. And then Riggs trying to get him a penalty for not marking the ball, which I don't even think is a penalty. - That was Gachi, that was Gachi. - No, no, no. - Riggs called it out and then Gachi for a press press. - No, no, no, that was marking the ball on the green in which Chetty was like hitting the ball as he marked it. - Yeah, that was weird. - Which I don't think that's allowed. Riggs then on the next hole, I think he was trying to say he should get a penalty for not putting like a mark on your ball, like writing on the marker before. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, to identify your ball 'cause that one got lost in the woods. Riggs was fucking hilarious. Him hitting that three wood and then it walked towards it. Like he was tiger and then it going in the bunker. Like he put him watching that video. I'm watching that video and he hits it. And I don't even think he's that far out and he's ripping three wood, but like he hits it and he's walking after and somebody in the back and goes, "Oh, he's walking after it." And then when the camera pans, it's a bunker, I shit. And then Dave had a tweet, like if you don't laugh at Riggs, walking after it, like he's talking to Gustav for it to roll in the bunker. - The walk was amazing. It was like he's done it 10,000 times, hit a dime right at the pin. - And then Chetty's like, "I have a tailor made." No, but you're like, "You just have to have a tailor." - Through his pilot. - No, but I have refurbished balls. And people watching must be losing their fucking mind, dude. Mind you, didn't we get balls? - Yeah, we got beef balls that were given to us. And then I think as many tailor maids as you could fit in your golf bag. The other thing too is, is Riggs hit a pot on the last hole to win that match, didn't he? - To tie it, to tie the match, tie the match. And then he's celebrating, it's just, and I think people, the hate Riggs gets online. I actually think a lot of it is kind of jealousy. And like I understand his swing is ugly. He said ugly swing, but like I've said a million, I've said a million times. Like he's, I've seen the guy shoot like 75. I don't know what you want me to say. It's an ugly looking swing, but it gets the job done a lot. But people are so upset watching this. And I don't think you can really describe like the adrenaline that's going on. Like it's a different, it's 1.3 million a person. Like it's hard to kind of describe how, or judge anyone based on how would you act if you were in this situation? I don't know, maybe you've seen it with his haters series. They act like something online, then they show up, and then there are different person because they can't handle a bright light smoke at the time. Like if anybody online and is carving his handicap, or how, how you guys are acting, have no clue what it's like to be in that thunder dome. What's the speech you always say, or the man in the arena? Man in the arena, buddy. Man in the arena. And also, people get so mad. Like if you're watching a PGA Tour event, you know you can't play with those guys. But everybody thinks that they should be in this tournament. Or have like, have his job per se, right? Like this guy, like this show would be so much better without him. It's like, buddy, it's kind of revisionist history. Yeah, maybe it would be, but they have an enormous brand, and he goes out there and he gets carved. I mean, he gets carved. I think he might get carved online more than anyone. He got for in the world. Oh, shit. Like he's like Bryson D. Shambo of YouTube golf. Now keep in mind, we've golf with him before. And I'd never seen him play live at this point. And he was, he got salined. And some of the best short game that I've ever seen from a golfer, especially with, like you said, it's not pretty, but he gets it done. So for people, he says he's a four. I feel like he's being honest. And if anything, maybe he's giving a shot or two, but I'd rather him reverse sandbag than sandbag. And he's not a four than what is he? No, he's putting in. his scores. He puts in every score. His golf pirus. People don't get handicaps. Handicaps are like, it's what you're at at your best, I believe. And, and yeah, I think I think he's a four handicap. I don't for right now. Right? Like, if you're putting in every score, which I actually think he's pretty legit with that stuff. Like he's not fucking around. And it would probably make his life a lot easier if he was like a nine handicap, but he's just putting in the scores. And then sometimes he plays really well. And, and his, he's a four. I don't know what you want to say. It's not like he's playing. It's not like he's playing goat ranch is like us and the sandbaggers. Like they're getting on nice courses. I think if rigs had a beautiful golf swing and was a nine handicap, he would like people would like love them. It's that it looked, it's so ugly. I mean, I think Ken says it looks like he's shot by a shot going to impact. And Ken's now, who knows if, like, Ken's could not even remember saying that, Ken's had 400 beers in a three day span in a hundred and twenty in the temperature. So, um, last, oh, I was just going to say the last match I was going to mention was little bit of bullshit from the Asian kid and Wesley Brian, Brian. Yeah, that was crazy. So big John, who was playing with big John in that one? Was it FP rigged or rigged? No, it was, um, no, no, it was ruffles. Ruffles. Yeah. What a team. That would be. That's a wagon. That's a wagon of a team. So that was one on once. Yeah. So, yes. Oh, yeah. You're right. Yes. Yeah. It's a different video. But what, what do you make of that? And I guess like describe what they were trying to call them on. They said his ball move when he addressed the ball. But if you're calling that right there in that situation, like, I think it's one of the softest things I've ever seen in my life. And I believe it happened in another group in that same video. And they were like, eh, no worries, man. Like, Hey, if you're in the masters and your ball moves a centimeter, like, yeah, it's a penalty. But I don't even think the replay didn't even show his ball moving. And then Sam was the guy Sam. He's like, his ball moved and then Wesley Brian's like, Oh, you got to call him on it. And I think in the end, they were probably like, Oh, we look horrible. Like once a video called it on himself, too. Then like two, like two holes later, he called the same penalty on himself and I was the same hole. Yeah. And I was wondering, I'm like, do you think he called that penalty on himself? Because he got back in the car and was like, fuck, I look like an asshole. Now I should just call that on myself here. I guess if the ball like really moved, if it was so obvious, the ball move, you could be like, Hey, sorry, your ball move. But at that point, big John would have been like, yeah, my ball just moved. Like, I don't think that's a guy that's like not admitting something happened in terms of like rules and fractions. But he's in the middle of the fairway. What, what advantage is he getting? Like, I get it. If you're in the draw, it would be a mistake. It would, it would have been, he like touched it by accident, not even trying to do it. Maybe because those guys are like pro golfers, I think Sam was like a pro golfer. Wesley obviously was as well. Like, maybe they're just so used to, that's how you play golf. I think Wesley Brian hates bar stool more than any bar stool hater out there. I honestly really. So what was the tweet he sent out? Okay. So this is a tweet he sent out after the PMT guys were not happy. Like they were all. Yeah. Cause PFTs on that list. Correct. And I'm shocked that I wasn't cause you escaped this one pretty nice here. No, he knows. He doesn't have a handicap. That's why. Yeah. So on this list is like, I think Jersey Jerry is better than me. I think the PFT could probably beat me. Kyle for sure on me and Trent, I think Trent's better than me too. Groot is way better. The Jets good. Me only guy could be on this list is the Duke in Calix. And maybe Calix was he saying here that he wants that to happen or was he then saying I was. So here, let's read it out. So he tweeted out with the internet invitation will be better or worse. If you replace the eight highest handicap golfers, they're they're added by the S the eight best players in the world. So basically put in Scotty Schaeffler, Rory McElroy, Fitzpatrick, young Clark, got a route. Got a rough shop. Lee and Tommy Fleetwood. So if you put those eight people in the in the internet vatational as opposed to the list of the jet, Groot and Trent Ryan, Kyle, PFT, Jersey, Jerry, Calix and the Duke. Would it make it more entertaining? I don't think it would. No, so it would make better golf. Now I'm reading. He said, I wouldn't have wanted that. I was just putting it out there. I'd rather watch Bob does sports in the PGA tour. I would rather play all shot with Bob than a pro golf ride. That's 10 hours later though, boys. Like that's after the whole internet was like, fuck you, you're an idiot. That's damage control right in him saying I literally chose YouTube golf for that reason. You didn't choose YouTube golf. You got, I think he got kicked off the tour, right? He got I don't know what happened or if he like lost status, but I'd be willing to bet that if he was like a top 40 golfer in the world, he'd be doing that over a half course. Of course. I don't think he like shows to be like, Oh, I'm, uh, I'm qualified for every major next year, but I'm done with that. I want to play YouTube next year. Morgan geeky is going to play just in the chicklets cup and not in the NHL. That's good. It'll be fun. Fucking hey, man, our stock's going up. So yeah, um, I don't even know where we're and I don't even know you were mentioning Kyle and, uh, and Salim a little bit, but on real though, they're not, they weren't giving each other six and their boys and their boys. And then they'd hit a putt like, right, but four, five inches past got a market, got to put it in. Got to, they were all over each other. And I think they're really good friends, right? I know they work together. So I actually have a video that I'm going to tweet later. Okay. And I'm going to play it for you right now. I'm only going to play the audio for you, but it's a video grudin took of me putting. Okay. And I think this is the best video I'll ever have in my life about like something to do with me because John Gruden is, I love him. He's a bag. He's a legit idol of mine. And hearing him talk about me the way he is here, it's the coolest thing ever. So I'm going to tweet it later, but listen to John Gruden here. This is what a badass does under pressure. Ryan Whitney feels no pressure. He applies pressure. It's a million dollar putt, man. He just eliminated me. He sent me home. He feels no pressure. He applies pressure. And that was to beat his group out. And that's why he got and that sent me home, man. What a guy. What a showing man. He's a gamer. Yeah. It was that was a and I don't know. I don't know where we even end off. I don't even know how episode five ends. So we can't really say anything else, but this this tournament is unreal. It's, I hope for anyone who hasn't watched it, but I'm like, I'd never watch it. And maybe you hate golf. So whatever, you're never going to watch it. But give it a shot because it's entertaining. And I know it's long, but it is, it is. I don't think it's just because we were in it. Are we enjoying watching it, considering that I think over 20 million people have watched it at this point. I mean, me and Biz were barely in it. And I can't get enough of it watching it online. I don't want to see. I don't want them to take this too seriously, because I do enjoy playing in it. If it ever got to the point where they're like, Hey, you kind of stink. You're no longer involved. I would, if you like you guys are playing in it, I'm flying there just to come booze and fucking watch you guys. I took three flights to get there and a two hour car. I get to full day of travel. I'm coming to get fucking banged up. I might be bringing a few more extra curriculars this time. But, uh, but if I do get the invite back, I got to take some lessons and, and improve my game because it's, it's, it's a gauntlet. One of the funniest clips and shout out to the production team. I know we've said, incredible, incredible. How they've been able to do this. But they got, it was such a good little clip of getting the, you know, because you have some degenerates out there playing and then you got some serious golfers and they showed right after it was like big John and FD after they won their match, racing up to go get shots. They're like, let's get some meager shot. Like just rip in shots and then it clicks over to like George Brian and somebody else like fishing in the pond talking about it. Like they, they did such a good job of getting both sides of it. So yeah, shout out to the 100% and last thing, a G's gonna hop on here and name the editors who have like made this thing possible. Like this will go down as one of the biggest sporting pieces of YouTube content ever. And we just mentioned how hot it was there. These guys are standing around with big cameras and following everybody around. It's like, obviously they do get enjoyment out of it, but it's not like getting to go just play golf and sit around a car like us and booze like they're carrying these cameras around. They're standing in a sun day after day. And then after that, they're uploading all the footage or getting no sleep. And then they're having to edit and go through all of it. So it is such a grind for them to for us to be able to get this enjoyment and content and things to talk about. So I don't think enough is said about editors and these content creators behind the scenes. So gee, who are the main names we need to mention? So first thing I just want to say is I want a 1v1 match versus you sometime. I think I'll kick your ass. I think that's fair for me. Moving on, Brennan Jones, he's leading the path You have Kyle Tim's Jared Delibro like there's their whole production team at four play is unbelievable But like they're getting a ton of shine right now, which is well deserved to but like the events team like live up live event Lisa's team setting up everything making sure everyone's in the cabins So there is that environment where everyone can just booze together and hang out It's like Taylor Ray just in Mancini airing corner pressed in like there's tons of people on that side that like really made this happen too But the four play production team just like I text Brennan Jones right now the kid hasn't slept in like two weeks He's just like they're unbelievable, but Kyle Tim's Jared Delibro And Brennan Jones are kind of the masterminds behind all this and it's pretty cool because they also have like a a Storyline producer too who's following everyone around just making sure we have correct story lines almost like the a reality show producer as well So man, they crushed it. It was it was impressive to see and good called bringing up live event Lisa and Taylor Ray like and That ends and then they're planning the next event like a chicklets cup and they're having a set up that so it's just around the clock These people work relentlessly to like bring a lot of the people like fans and other people who enjoy what bar stool does They're the engine that that runs the machine There's like hundreds like hundreds of camera men there too. Like there's just like that are that they ain't getting any shine either You know just hundred degrees running around following you guys all day in the heat 120 degrees like that ain't easy So like for solely and all those guys like they're the best shout out security Mike hit an offense again keeping the streak alive Yeah for solely must I love that but um all right time to move on to some hockey. Um, I need Pasha on this feed right now Let's let's bring this in before he starts talking. I would say that last week When an NHL player Posted a picture of his hammer. I'm like we're good like like this is enough internet Ridiculousness for the NHL. We're probably not gonna have anything top this and then the new Jersey devil's release a statement which Sonny meta has to be Trolling I think I think I think I think is Pasha don't speak yet. Pasha don't speak yet shut the fuck up pasha shut your mouth. I Biz I'm glad you brought that up first because here's the difference we have an organization and I'm gonna get ahead of this I actually love sunny meta when he came on here like a great guy a great chat pretty funny Which is why I think some of this is trolling a little bit But then I want to go over to the anaheim ducks which funny enough is the is the team with my bet on Pasha Who will get a cup first? Okay, that was that looking and not only does and anaheim looks great. They look good though Yeah, the best goal scorers have ever seen That they score five goals every game shut up shut up and my team my second team anaheim ducks quack quack quack They not only not only are light in the world on fire right now They tweet out from the locker room a player on the team calling our guy Seneca Makaruna so not only not only other ducks not running from it They're jumping into the fire. They he's Makaruna and he's disgusting at hockey and he loves throwing Makaruns over his hog And the ducks are rolling and they're making jokes of it and they're making fun and they're bringing content to the league And then we have the devils and this decision Pasha. I'll tell you right now. It is the perfect Storm for our podcast and your moron analytic discussions and computers and your bays and all the bullshit you talk about and you're taken away An all-time game from the fans to be able to see hatred Spude towards a player who wanted to leave which is part of the game you want to leave you're gonna take heat and not only that Hella book says he wants to play and your stupid analytics is the reason we're not and we have sunny meta saying This has been an organizational decision for us that we've debated at length Hella book was adamant that he felt a duty to play on Tuesday good for him However in our estimation playing in this game would potentially not even for sure Potentially give us a reduction in our expected win probability. Oh my god That's under the that is a troll right Pasha. He's missing with everyone That is a deal. I love to speak now. Yes. No. Oh, okay. No, no, they said no I will say I disagree with with it. I love this fucking move. I have I want to see him playing because because we've literally gotten a taste of everything We got the Larkin thing where he's not moved. He went there left again Now he's at home sitting there We got Brady going into the eye of the storm. We get 18 different chance. He's fucking laughing at the crowd During his ceremonial video and we're all thinking oh for sure man We got we got hella buck going back and and and even if he's backing up He's gonna be sitting where the fans are because that's where they sit with it. That's worse We're gonna get that's worse. He's gonna have to have the pope would be all ready to go So he's gonna get the shit thrown at him and and obscenities YELL datum but he ain't come out they come out with a quote straight from fucking Pasha's data center Falling right into his analytic lap And we get to hear Pasha talk about how his team are a bunch of cowards. I Love this fucking move Pasha. What do you think? I got a lot to say the following statements are about to be made by deranged devils fan The views expressed are his and his only take everything you hear with a grain of salt because remember He is a deranged devils fan. Let me preface everything by saying I really wanted to see him play in this game. I was looking forward to it It's my sister's birthday tomorrow night my family is trying to organize a dinner I'm like, oh, no, I got to work like let's do it another night. I had this night blocked off I was fucking pumped to watch this game. So let me preface it by saying that analytically it made sense to do his birthday on a different day. So yo admit yo admit you don't agree with the decision No, no, no, I only meant I'm disappointed. He's not playing. However, Sunny meta and the New Jersey devils have no fucking responsibility To give podcast host news outlets or 31 other teams fucking entertainment They're only responsibilities to give the New Jersey devils entertainment And he has done so by building a fucking 100% Japanese certified wagoon If 1 9 of 10 this team is un-fucking believable all that matters is piling up the winds and they have been doing that okay And nobody nobody regardless of if this was purely the devils and hellbuck wanted to play or hellbuck saying I don't want to play whatever. I don't know what's going on, but regardless who is anyone to question Sunny meta This guy's been playing 40 chess since the day he got on the fucking job. He does not miss. He's been one step ahead the whole god damn time And I will say once again with the preface if I'm very disappointed and I was pumped for this You can't deny that It would have been a complete fucking circus Winnipeg would have been so fucking horny and motivated and this has taken the wind out of their sales You can't deny that and the devils have a home and home with the capitals later this week divisional opponents The jets suck out of conference. No, they don't they fucking won that game. They've rattled off three in a row now They support and York my guy all you guys left Three points in his last two games And I don't know if you saw his between the legs dish to Brandon Jagger for his first NHL goal So shut up. You're not talking about Bjork right now. What do you have to say about what I just said because This is what I have to say that if they made this decision analytically, which is what they say on the on the on the release How are you telling me that Jake Allen gives you a better chance to win that shows me analytics can be a true disgrace I think he means as far as rest and then how the rest of their how they place their goalies in which game like I'm not There might be a stat where like a goal tender going back to the team that he used to play for is like Oh, in whatever. So maybe he's a number's I guess Washington are elite and they have a home and home against the caps later this week Which is gonna have to play one of those anyways Jake Allen Jake Allen has the worst Like record against the Winnipeg Jets. I think of it. No Yes, he does Go look up Jake Allen. It's he doesn't have a great record, but it's not like the worst record or whatever But yeah, it's I think of all any goalie in the league He has the worst winning percentage against the Winnipeg Jets I think he's like two and 12 look it up. I saw tweet today. Do you think That from from from our our discussion with Sonny meta Mike my thought was he's he's a pretty funny guy Like he kind of like makes little chirps of jokes here and there do you believe that that statement like he's sitting back kind of laughing when it when they press Maybe I mean this is this is what I love about him he does it he marked it to the beat of his own drum He's got his own flare. It's refreshing. He's not this old boys club bullshit copy to pace like every other GM Sonny meta is unique. You see him offer sheets. He's doing interviews He's funny. You fucking jazz player poker player. I love it. He does what he wants and you guys can sit here And pull these fucking stats of Jake Allen wins and losses time. I got under the hood He he it's actually not as bad as I thought 9/11 and 3 and 24 games But his save percentages 884 with the with a goals against the 3.18 so not play Yeah, but that's him playing if front behind Muppet-ass teams not stingy teams with the 26 27 New Jersey devil who don't let teams get more than 20 shots a game who dominate every fucking game 5 on 5 Okay, but that sheldon keeps like yeah, this should be four games in eight days. It's like what boys like I think that it's a Smooth in a sense of emotionally what it would probably take away from him It's a lot different of as a goal tender than it would be a player only having to play like like whatever 20 minutes That's right. And I think we're all aware that like Brady's a little bit of a different breed. So he probably, in fact, embraced it and like couldn't wait. And not to say Connor Hellabuck didn't want that, that he said he said he wanted to play. But just the emotional wave it would take over from having to sit there the whole game on the ice and fucking take that barrage. And then maybe what it could do to you with the following couple, they're trying to get him ready. Like they're trying to get him back in the rhythm. They don't want to disrupt that. And I think that this is a wise move in protecting your asset. And I think in the long run, it's not going to frustrate him. If anything, I think that he's appreciative of how respectful they are to him and what they're showing them in the early, early tenure of his time in New Jersey. I think it's a wise move as much as I hate it. And I want to see a gong show like we saw in Ottawa. I think that this is obviously an online gong show, but we won't get there. They're going to still chant. They're still going to do their thing and fucking and probably run through a wall to try to beat them and say that that motivated me even further. But this is the right move. Do you think they were worried about like Winnipeg running hellabuck maybe part of it too? Maybe that if if York scores and the Jets win this game, I might that's not, yeah, I might. Yeah, I mean, listen, come. You can't deny that if hellabucks in that, the Jets are probably 100% to 200% more fired out, more horned out, more motivated. So it does take the wind out of their sales. Like Jan said, some guy might fucking run him. And listen, I love the fact that we're sitting here and we're the only thing we're chirping the devil's about is they're starting going because you can't chirp their fucking record how they're playing this teams that God damn mother fucking wagon. And I love it. You got. He Hamilton hammering guys now. Everybody. I mean, that's what you know. That's something special is going on. Okay. Let me ask you this. Saturday night in Long Island, to not call that penalty on Luke Hughes, taking down Matthew Schaefer driving in a way, I don't think I got that one. Yeah, I, I, I, I, I hate to agree with posh. Yeah, I don't think that was his late night. I think he kind of, I understand, like, help me understand these two idiots right now. No shit. They got ran out of the building by devil's fans, devil's fans at their own section. They were out chanting them. And the other fans can fucking smoke on. There's a good little, a good little heated rivalry. Well, I mean, yeah, they fought with gloves on that's similar to heated rivalry. Exactly. Are you used to be? You gotta use protection. Yeah. Army text to the group immediately goes, what is this Sweden? If, if they didn't have gloves on that actually would have been like, it would have been hammered. Hammer throwing, it was like locker boxing back in the day. Yeah. I mean, I'd rather see that than like them just get away and not do anything. Like, would I rather gloves come off? Yes, but at least there's passion. No, protect a both those guys, protect the myths. Smart, blue boys. Yeah. I've been there before. And then we get to another thing we get to talk about that's ridiculous, just like that statement. I that statement, he would, he had to have been smiling ear to ear. I do. The poker hand and like not showing your, your, your hand is in a sense of like not even giving him the opportunity to dress as a backup, like, it's probably not even going on the trip. Oh, that's one thing. Hello, but I actually didn't know this till the other day in his whole career when he'll buck back stop. He doesn't sit on the bench. He's in the room, regardless of if it's on the bench or if it's one of those weird ranks where it's in the corner. That's showtime. Yeah. That's showtime. Yeah. So you're telling me in an arena where you walk off the bench into the locker room in every arena when he'll buck back and up. He's in the room. That's fucking, but you have to be a, you have to be a crème de la crème goalie to get that treatment. I just think Jets fans deserve a chance to, yes, yeah, they do, but guess what I don't fucking sunny meta and the devil's to give Jets fans what they deserve or any other fucking team or any media member, anyone else, they're in the business of winning hockey games, which they've been doing a lot of, but doesn't matter how they win the hockey game, playing Conor Helibock. It's the same. But like I said, it'll be such a circus and Jets will be that much horned up to fucking beat him. This takes wind out of their sales. It does. Who should gross? Like the people were, people were more fired up about it online. Like I said, the fact that we get all these different versions of betrayal and how they follow through with it, I think it's been entertaining as fuck. I was not expecting this. I thought that was a joke when I saw it online. So I get to, I thought it was a, um, a different, like I thought it was like, uh, yeah, wrong, wrong. Sarah Valley for sure. Well, yeah. No, wait, you keep comparing them to the docs, ducks are really well run. They handled their contracts well this summer. Yeah. I mean, if you're going to sit around and try to carve the docs, like, I don't think right now was the rats. They had some funny tweets. But what a wall run organization. I don't, I wish I was the docs, wish I had Verbeek run in the fall, they have a guy who might get 70 goals this year's, make it 13 and a half. What's wrong? How they handled the Leo Cross? What's wrong with it? What's wrong with Cutter Goatier's contract? Is anyone in the world? I think as we saw as a result of those contracts, their decors been gutted and they don't defend for shit. And that has a recipe for success. He's acting like he's off to the conference finals already. Posh. No, no, no. I'm just a new member of it. You yourself said that the docs have taken a huge step back and that might have cost you that fucking bet. You can't deny that that. I know. But then I've seen that they're just a complete offensive juggernaut every single game. Six five. That doesn't translate to playoffs. I mean, how do you know that all those are bent to two-stand-the-cup finals. I have that one. I don't know. I have that one. They have as much. They have one in the cup. Zero. Zero. Now and be like, oh, Anaheim's completely fucked like they they've been able to figure out their offense. And this Tristan Lino. Have you seen Tristan Lino? What? The only reason I'm bringing up Anaheim is because you're sitting there all the, this should learn from the docs. They made a funny tweet. Who gives a fuck? Well, I was a funny tweet. I like laughing at tweets. Sorry. I like winning off fucking. What do you got? No, Vem. November 28th at home. Jersey versus Winnipeg. Do you think hella-buck plays in that game? That's a back. Well, I don't think I would rise if he didn't play. Well, is it the first game of the back to back? They did a finals. Then the first finals. Do you think hella-buck plays? Hey, who's the first game of the back to back? Calgary. If he plays against Calgary and not Winnipeg, you're a coward. I was just going to say, I just think if he doesn't play the next one, and even this one, I don't love the karma with the hockey gods if he doesn't. Honestly, this goes beyond analytics, and the hockey gods, they dominate analytics. I'll tell you that. They don't fuck around. You're talking to a guy who was offered a good good to move on to the next round, and he said, no, give me the ball. So listen to that guy. What do you think the analytics told me to do? Except the good good? No. Put it out. Put it. Thank you. And Pasha, I will say this, they look incredible. Incredible. Like the Toronto Maple Leafs looked like the Greensboro Gargoyles against them on Sunday. It was clinical. I don't even think hell is one. I don't even think Hellabuck had to do any good right now. Yeah. Gargoyles are winning some games boys. Are they? Yeah. We're like five and two right now, dude. Third in the league. So right when Biz left, they started ripping off some dubs. Exactly. I give them a little pep talk. I said, if you fuckers keep losing, you're not getting music or practice anymore, and they've been on a tear. I do also want to mention when thinking of Toronto, I'm just like, things are coming to my mind right now. And I pumped the Toronto fan base for what they do around the league. Like Edmonton, they own Edmonton and Edmonton and the fans are loud. And there's a ton of them there. That game against Montreal in Toronto. I want to say there was more Canadians fans in the building. And I can't let's team. Yeah. Why is that? In Toronto. It's Canada's team. Montreal is, but there are people in Toronto that are Montreal fans. Oh, yeah. They travel. Montreal fans are everywhere. It's kind of like the Pittsburgh Steelers. You go anywhere in the Green Bay Packers, fucking original six, I know where there's least fans everywhere too. It's like the Leafs are great on the road. Yeah. I've never seen Leafs do that in Montreal and I don't get another Canadian. Fans are cash. They're casual. They're probably thinking, oh, these Montreal Canadians fans are going to are going to pay me a little bit more than what I paid for the ticket. I can make a little bit of money. And it's not like I was going to go to the rink and cheer anyway. I would say that Leafs fans are louder on the road than they are in their own building. Oh, because those are the, as far as I agree. Yes, I agree. You go to Buffalo. If it's Buffalo, Montreal in Buffalo. Florida, they used to fucking come down heavy. Montreal. Colt Cofffield said it after the Heritage Classic against Winnipeg. And I think there it was a 50/50 split. He said, best, most popular fan base in Canada. And maybe not from a number populations standpoint, but by the way, they show up, they buy tickets and they cheer their dick off for their team. I would say number one passionate fan base, that travel Edmonton. I will from our Stanley Cup final there against Florida. Edmonton is the best atmosphere in the NHL to go watch a playoff game in my opinion for how rowdy it is. Rowdy. Yes. Montreal. Montreal and the finals though. That's in the finals. You saw them in the. Sure. I went to the coffers finals, but, but, but, but they didn't have the puck. No, but buddy, I, no, I went, I went to watch Edmonton Colorado when Colorado swept them in the coffers final and I was in the building for every game. We were there for one of those. We were there for game three. Yeah. It's, I don't think anything's beating Edmonton right now. No. Not the playoffs. Unfortunately, like the regular season and the lack of like being completely full, it's upsetting. But I get it because the price of everything is completely absurd. Now, let's go back a couple days and people say, like, all Edmonton. in like jock sniff or ball liquor and Connor McDavid drove the net. He actually burnt Jackson Lakom wide and he'll listen, hit him into the post. And after the game, McDavid said, like, this is something that's like very close and personal to me driving the net. And for a guy who always is accused of being biased towards the oilers, I couldn't disagree more. I didn't see the, I didn't see the problem with that. Like what's going to happen if he doesn't finish his head? I don't, it wasn't like he like cross checked him into the poster or anything. It looked kind of like a little bump and you're going mock 10 past one of the best skating defensemen in the league. Hellison. Like what's he going to do? Just let you kind of cruise by him. I didn't, did you guys agree with what he said? Oh, no, I didn't agree with he said in hellison barely hit him there. It was in obviously when you go in that fast, if you're touched even a little bit, you're going to go off balance. But I don't think it was like a malicious play like think of what guys used to do when they'd cut to the net. Like when we first started in the NHL, guys were putting guys through the cross bar, like to try to say, hey, never try to do that again. Obviously, the majority of the time, McDavid's doing that. There's not even a guy there that can catch him. But to think that that's like a dirty play, I think is a little unfair for Connor. Like it's like, dude, you're taking the guy wide. His only way to even like deter you from ever doing that again is to try to hit you into the cross bar. So like the fan slash me wanting to see McDavid win the big one and bring one home to Canada and that bias tells me I never want to see the guy who touched him play another NHL game. And I think this is kind of the private island in prison. And I would fucking love to give him a beat down. But the non bias perspective is that is just probably some PTSD from Connor and what he dealt with. So I think it was the second year that that happened when he was going to the net against Calgary and he fucked up his leg, like there was a chance when that happened to him that it was never going to like heal correctly. And maybe he was never the same player and never skated the same way and there's a documentary on it. Yeah. Did you did you mention that when you were just talking about? No, I didn't. It was good point. You brought up. They did like a behind the scene documentary on it. So it was it fucked them up mentally, guys, and it's obvious that's all that this guy cares about. The minute he wakes up, it's all he's thinking about every day. I want to be the best player on the planet. I just think that that PTSD and whatever he thinks happened in reality is not actually reality. That he was just going to net. He got grazed. He fell down and he thankfully avoided injury, but that's a nothing burger. And even with it being a nothing burger, I still now back to the oilers. I love that pod calls and Pete the wheels off. Oh, you've got cameras, but that's what you do. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Like, like, forget what the fans think. Like, hey, you see David down against the boards and the post is off. It's moring. Like, yeah, we're just we're throwing punches and asking questions later. If I saw him in the hallway right now, I'd be like, that's bullshit, dude. That guy's a fucking loser. I'm totally on the David side. But it's like, you know, the NFL, you protect like the quarterbacks, the superstars. Like, you think he's asking for that? Like, he wants that protection where it's a penalty. If you hit a guy into the net or it's not allowed, like what's the end game here? It's part of the game. I've said this before, there's a few guys in the league that they have this this mentality. And I think that Nathan McKinnon, he talked or somebody was mentioning that he was talking or working with a downhill skier. And you have to be going in and skating where there's zero fear element. Like you're you're cutting to the net and you're going and you're not thinking about getting hit or knocked or losing an edge because if you lose an edge and you slide into the wall at the speed, these guys are going like, you might snap a leg and half like Clayton Keller did it. And he's not even as fast as those guys and he broke his femur when he was in Arizona. So for these guys, I commend them. There's probably like 10 of them in the league that can get that fast. Taylor Hall was another guy who played like that first came in and still does to some degree. Like there's a a lack of a lack of fear element to their game that I have so much respect for. And it's why we get to watch these guys do what they do every night. But at a certain point, somebody's going to contest them and nudge them and they're going to go flying. That's just the laws of physics boys. I mean, I would argue it's the goalies are more in danger for sure. Some of these guys driving and coming off that because the blades, not only the blades coming up, but if the D does put a shoulder into you and you hit the goalie who's standing still with zero momentum, like you're done. So I do, it is funny though, I don't, I can't think of anyone else. I know guys who fly around, nobody's as fast as McDavid. But the way he cuts across the crease is not that common because a lot of guys are ripping it. Like they'll beat the guy wide and they'll just shoot it or cut back to the middle. But the way he like skates and you've seen it with how many times he just reaches around the goalie and he's going so fast, he just tucks it in. He doesn't even have to make a move. So are you saying you would be hard press or there's nobody in the league that when he's going north south, can all of a sudden with the speedy as going now go lateral. No way. Okay. Nobody agreed. Yeah. It's pretty. Nobody like that. And like what he's doing right now, like, stuff must really regret coming on here and saying he could never imagine 200, yeah, I was an idiot. Just like Batman called me an idiot. He called me an idiot. He's the fastest player in league history to get the 30 assists. I think right now he has 28 or some high 20s primary assists, she's playing Gretzky to the fastest player in NHL history by a game to get to the 30 assist mark. He can one game pass Gretzky. Gretzky got 50 points in his first 18 games of the season one year. He can do it in 19 games in today's era. Gretz has to get three points in his next game, which I believe is tonight against. Do we know who he's playing? Is he playing like a ranger's the playing a ranger's at home. That's Paul. I mean, he had three points again. It's him. I mean, Pasha says he's going to have 15 points tonight. So I mean, what we're witnessing, that's why I say the bias version of me is like, don't touch him. I don't even know the name of the player that touched him going to the net. Definitely guys with who are the known amers. Let him breeze by you. Stop competing. We're witnessing greatness. Just step back and relax and grab your fucking popcorn. Eat your minus. I don't give a fuck about your league minimum salary. Just eat your minus. That's a good way. So this tweet is a couple days old now, but I did get a kick out of it. So this was when he had 44 points in 17 games. Now he has 47 points, I believe in 18. That was it. Yeah, last year players with excess is Jason Gregor players with 44 points last season. Timo Meyer, Rupé Hintz, Anton Lundell, Logan Stank, Oven, La Ferrier, and Lawson Crouse. Calgary's leading score last year, Coronado had 45 points. He has 47 in 18 games. It is actually insane. And I even as like the biggest Mick David stand to ever exist. I keep saying like, I can't continue, right, but I'm saying that after like the sixth game of the year, like 15 games or whatever, 13 games ago, 12 games ago, and he just keeps doing it. Now posture likes to remind me that like the stats without him aren't great for Edmonton. If you take away Leon, Connor and Bush, I don't know if there's a ton of scoring there. They don't need it. I that's that's kind of I look at you just do it at this point. You don't really need it. Would you need it in the playoffs, maybe, but you'd also need a goalie who's willing to go into the lines then and play against a tough crowd in the playoffs. And I don't know if the devils have that. So, um, I mean, hell of a shot's fired. Well, he stopped 400 shots against Canada and he's worried about the barrage. He's going to get from my guy, Vigo Bjork and the Jets and the Jets with an incredible win. Like you said, against the lighting, blowing a three nothing lead late and then getting the winner with one second left, a shifly rock at one time or, um, I, I think we do just quickly. This, okay, this is stuff doesn't do anything. I don't five on five expected goals for. I can't believe we haven't talked about. Pretty low on that list. Get this guy off. We've already glazed this team enough. We told him he's the smartest guy in the room. He had it. It's all the sandbaggers. We love you, Pasha, but enough, man. It's way to the first round of playoffs and see what we got here. We do have to still talk about Chicago. If we're moving on from Edmonton and that double risk or glazing that you're giving them, we just, I mean, if we're talking greatness here, we have to go back to the team that I said was going to miss playoffs, the Minnesota wild, who I believe are they, are they winning the Western conference right now? They're leading their division in the central. Yeah, they haven't lost in regulation at home. My favorite stat about the Minnesota wild right now is they haven't dressed the Canadian players since October 25th. Oh, oh, I'm shocked that that's what's your favorite fucking stat and the fan say Keith hates Canada. The fan does it. He hates Canada. It's a great story. Like Keith versus Canada, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's almost like team USA gold medalist and Keith versus. It's crazy because you talk, you talk about his favorite people that he played with along the way. All Canadians. Yeah. Shane Donne. Yeah. Yeah. Lives in America. Keep going. What does that have to do with anything? No, I'm just kidding. I saw that stat and I thought it was funny. I know this reaction. Oh, I am. You actually couldn't and that's why they won't win shit and playoffs. Just kidding, just kidding wild fans. I'm sorry. Is it true that and Billy? It's only like the six time it's ever happened and four of them are the wilds last four games. Yeah, it's been a while since I can't believe it. It ever happened prior to this. I know. I think in shot out to Canada, that's because your players are so good. And there's so many of you and you guys, well, the Polinos are back, aren't they? They're American. I'm fucking backpedaling. And just know the Polinos. Oh, but they're, no, they're dual, aren't they? They're American. They played USA or before we, before we throw it to our interview here, Jan's is going to burn a Canadian flag. I would never know. Don't even fucking get them going with that. He would never folks. Can I love Canada? Oh, I can't make a fucking joke anymore. I got the pop beyond. Jan's takes our honey and our milk and, and he keeps chirping. Yeah, second best start in franchise history behind the one that they had two years ago. Second few is five on five goals allowed. 24 behind the boss and Bruins boys. Do you know how many goals that Caprice off Erickson, I can boldly have allowed five on five this year? No, zero. They've been on the ice for zero five or five goals against. They've outscored a point on its 16 to zero. How do you play that much time? Hold on, hold on, hold on. Not one of those got, are you taking when they're out there together? When they're out there together as a line, which they've been together probably. I would assume they've played over probably 200, 250 minutes together on the ice, five on five. At least we're now seeing and, and the McDavid always out there with Bush. Like, I think now it's Caprice off out there with Hughes and Keith, we've talked about this. At least now, like more people are doing this, like make it the five man unit Russian style. And just always have Caprice off with Hughes. It's just like, it makes so much. No wonder they haven't been scored. How do you get to park from them? That's a good point. They've dealt with injuries. They've had no, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, no favor in the lineup. We're talking about a, a, an all star here, a goal tending. Second best team save percentage, 912 save for 100 percentage behind only Boston. And a lot of it because of wallstead being unreal. He stirred with a 922 save percentage and a 1.99 goals against average. They've led for 60 or they've led for 56.6% of their games. They're the only team above 50% where they have the lead 56% of the time and they do not give it up. Caprice off his score 25.4% of his team's goal. He's second the league and goals factor on 49% of the team's goals, which is also second. I'm assuming next the Mcdonalds, I think he's tied for the leading goals with Leon, isn't he? Okay, maybe he's, okay, maybe when this was, was factored in, he was, he was second. My apologies. Um, and has a lead leading 12 games with a goal. So a few of those, he's obviously had two of them. So 12 games, he's had a goal and so far of the what 18 he's played. Uh, three guys who have recorded at least a point in 14 games, only Edmonton's the other team. Caprice off Hughes and Eric and act. They have three guys who have recorded a point 14 of their team games. So getting contributions from those three guys, kind of like the three headed monster. We're talking about an Edmonton. So a lot of similarities there, but also in a more difficult division. So how about Shabon of Shabon and of one year deal. Play with the Islanders, one year deal, never drafted Russian player. Small, they give him, I think it's like 1.2. He's making this year eight goals already. And I'll tell you guys this. I don't know if I said this on an episode or if I said it when we were hanging out in Florida. I got a buddy, the my dog in Minnesota. And he's like, stop talking about Larkin and he really wants Larkin. But he's like, Larkin, it might not happen. Look to Ryan O'Reilly to come to Minnesota. And he's playing unbelievable Brady, Shay and we bring in those two. And then we win the Stanley Cup. Now that is no, this is a form she made of mine, a great guy, a good friend. He loves hockey and he kind of put that in my head. He's like, no, no, no, look to Nashville. Look to Brady, Shay to come back to Minnesota. Did you see how excited Kutra was the other night when he scored in Minnesota? You never really see him with the smile on his face. I could see him head and over there playing with his Russian buddy. I'm going to debunk the Ryan O'Reilly because he's Canadian. So there's no way that's going to work. Wait, that same buddy sent me a text this weekend suggesting like a good restaurant for me to go to. He's like, oh, you got to go to this restaurant club, Saratoga, like five minutes before that. Someone's like, hey, like they love fucking with Taurus. If anyone tells you to go to club Saratoga, it's a strip club. So apparently I don't even know if my sister's ever been to Minnesota. He's from a diner. He's a cake eater. The good news with O'Reilly is he only makes. I would say four and a half million. And then they could eat half his salary in Nashville hit in the and you know, obviously not as is as as fast as he once was. But speeds never really been his game. No, and he's he's had an unreal start to the year. All they're all their older guys have. Like Sam Coast looks great. He looks good, coach Rob talking about how whoever drafted Caprice off in the fifth round should be the GM there by now, which was just cracked me up, because he was giving a quote. And what he said about him that was cool is he's like, he's just always had the hunger. Like it's my puck. I'm going to get that and Caprice off. He is a little motherfucker. Oh, yeah, I think coach actually said he's dirty. Like he's and that's exactly what coach is. Like he's been all those Russians are have a mean street OV like tell me a Russian that doesn't have a mean streak. He's God. I would say I would say you're getting. I would say Alexander Semin, but he beat the drums with Mark stall. That time boom, boom, boom, boom, it was like, that's right. He walks or shaper and he was could run. Yeah, the wild man. It's a fun team to watch. It's you guys. It's just so fun. And Murls would probably say like, you don't need Kutruv. You need a center, Murl and you guys take the heat from me for the Minnesota shit talk at the beginning of the year. Murls is still public enemy number one there. And I think he's still just holding on to the number. Do you ever for us? Do you ever think because, you know, the narrative around biz is he's a mush and all this stuff. No one wants him on their team. And we all know the love he has for Billie G. Do you think fans, maybe he did this on purpose phase? Yeah, I believe in that day. Okay. Guys, okay. So I reminded Billie G when he came on when I put my tail between my legs. I was still high from my peaking trip. I was high as a kite and I'm like, oh, I'm going to be a genius here. As I had as many drugs as R.A. does on a normal day in my system. And I got it. I thought that they don't, okay, no center ice other than Eric Sinek. I know they had Hartman who played a decent. Did I know you're all was going to pop off the ways popped off? Absolutely not. Did I know that there were no Canadians in the lineup going for Billie G? Like it's the goddamn Olympics. No, I didn't know that. So I just want to know with Billie G if he's hearing this or if somebody could tell them from the bottom of my heart, like, I am sorry for doubting you. I'm not going to even come close to hop it on the wagon. And I'm happy that you guys have had this success. Now I really want you to win the central and I want you guys to go on a run. But I do, do want you to do it with a few Canadians in the lineup. Oh, they'll be back. They'll be back. We talking Chicago. Oh, man. What do you mean, old man? They're the fuck we should have opened with them. They're rockford. They're trading the whole team. And I respect the hell out of Connor, but our response. But the reporter who was like, hey, you didn't seem that excited. When you scored there, he's like, he's like his face. He's like, uh, yeah, I don't think I'm going to be salient when we're going to pump nine two. It was seven. Nothing. He scored it. It's seven one. And I get the reporters just like, oh, you didn't seem like two. It's like, buddy, like we're getting drummed every game. And I scored a goal. Like, imagine if he jumped into the glass and fucking shot the gun. Like, he knew how the world would have reacted. Go by the bench, which honestly, he's so good. He should just be like, I mean, obviously this is rejected. He just started going completely insane for every goal. He scores no matter what the score. So he gets him enjoyment out of this. They mine as well. It's like with how bad it is there and like how much fun they're not having. Just celebrate every little thing. You make a good breakout pass. They should be spraying water bottles on the bench. You know, like, wow, I get as much fun. San Jose tried that in one of their practices and look how things have been going there. They're about to have. So this is, so this is after D&T last week where they opened the game like shit. They ended up coming back a little bit, but I believe following that broadcast, they lost the Tampa what for one. And then they lost nine, two to Carolina. So they've been outscored 13 to 13 to three. If I'm, if I stand corrected here, it could be, yeah, it doesn't even matter. It's just like just so then they scored by a billion then they won up San Jose. And that they had their own closed door meeting. Yeah. The Chicago kind of and then and then it comes out Elliot on on Saturday night says that That's shockingly that anybody's on the table. They're old. Chicago is open for business boys for trade Besides Bedard correct. Did he say that? I think everybody is on the table actually. I heard a rumor that Raquel turned down a trade to go to Chicago record Raquel. Yes from Pittsburgh and that's why they brought up who is the kid they brought up. McGrody. Yeah. Pittsburgh's Pittsburgh horrific horrible team as well. Um, I look at this lineup right there that they just showed if you're watching on Netflix It doesn't look like That bad to me Does it to you guys? But that buddy that that's why I said like this team has no identity. I don't know what it is I don't know if these guys are not motivated now Keeping my terrifying and you see he's on the back nine. He's had a great run Is he slaughtered correctly worth where he's playing? Is he gonna get in on the four check and finish hits and and and and produce Anywhere than maybe other being a guy that you put in the top six and he can do decent things off the rush Like where's the compete level at and it's not me calling him out. It's like well. I've watched them play so many times like It's a lot of young guys who as Jan said last uh last pod they all think their first liners So it doesn't really seem like they're willing to do the dirty work nor do most of them know how because they've never had to play that role their entire careers It seems like if you look at their full roster especially on the back end like they got drafted high They went to rock for they did their time And then they got called up, but it's like well, you're you're in the NHL now We're just gonna keep rolling these guys game after game until it eventually clicks now to defend them And maybe they're analytics and what they're seeing behind the the scenes here Maybe they got they're using fucking Pasha's data center And they're getting a lot of things that we're not seeing We also Including you wit said last year about Buffalo. There's a 0.0 percent chance that they're making playoffs Am I comparing these two teams? No, but is there a possibility that all the sudden things just click and then they start winning That's kind of what happened in Buffalo But it's way it's more likely that that happens with them than like Vancouver Do you know what I'm saying? I agree I agree with that, but I just don't I also see an organization where let's put it this way When I was playing with the Pittsburgh penguins where I was drafted I I would consider of myself a good defenseman. I almost made the team as an 18-year-old. You were a hell of a deal When I finally sold our sign my pro contract We were so deep and we had good enough players in our organization where I started in the ECHL And the Wilkesburg team tell me a year where they weren't competing and expected to maybe he'd go go win a call their cop every year They were a winning team They had great veterans around helping lead And you were building these guys up and establishing their game to maybe just maybe end up getting to wet their beak in the NHL How many how many years did a Lane Nazardine have to put in to finally get his chance with the Pittsburgh penguins in the miners? I remember I've sold I've told this before a Lane Nazardine playing a game with the penguins in Montreal and skating around getting to the bench with tears in his eyes buddy Something I'll never forget. So I was so happy for him And he was the best leader like down in the miners and like he got to play in his home city I was like this is fucking what sports is all about right here sick and and I don't know like go show me what the rock for ice hogs record is You're saying they haven't had to earn it yet buddy the go fuck no one has a cell. Oh, you're oh you were a second round of the fucking any Nobody gives a fuck man. I was playing in L.A. with their their farm team guys like Derek Forebert first rounder Vinnie Laverde was our captain. He had to start out in the coast Andrew Bodercock who was an undersized defenseman Like Gravel these guys had to fucking help us when I called their cup and they were barely getting a sniff in the NHL The rock for ice hogs currently sit in a sixth place out of seven teams in the central division. There you go, Biz Where were they the last five years of where they were bringing these guys up from like I they didn't even make the playoffs last year What about the year before that they made the playoffs and were eliminated in the semi finals They were fifth in the central the year before that they lost in the semis. Okay, you need a culture You need a culture it starts at the bottom But who even on that team if you can pull that roster up again is like the next Brendan Hegel that gets traded away in becomes a great player I think I think all over more could be a very good player. Okay. I think frondelle could be a stud Yeah, but they won't get rid of him Oh, you're saying who they could oh yeah like what what are you going to trade out of there to get some assets back to What do you think of the guy who was just traded to Edmonton? They were raving about his numbers like why did they need to get rid of him? Is it Dickinson? Yeah, he's like older and I think they a lot of team like look at what Edmonton gave him a first rounder who cares Who cares what the fuck are they gonna do with it? I know Yeah, because that's a guy that can teach guys like hey not everyone's gonna be a first liner You got to get in on the four check. You got to fucking back check your ass off. Yeah, you need guys like that Like tell okay, so okay, so Tampa gave him two first rounders for Hegel Who the fuck are they gonna draft to replace Brendan Hegel and he's making nothing He makes like seven million bucks now Like you're oh, you're giving that up to to go potentially draft the guy who might be half as good as Brendan Hegel And then he's got to go marinate with a rock for ice hogs for 80 games And then you're gonna call him up like he's the next coming of Christ Like sick fucking development here like look at all these guys. They're just giving up on who go other places in her good NHL players Schmaltz We keep talking about him. They gave up on him. Uh, who's the other one? Stromer like what about demon? What demon have they given up they gave up Murphy Jones Jones Seth Jones like he's gonna he's gonna be up for a Norris this year What are we doing here? It's it's ugly. It's like the yeah It makes me want to just like Immediately stop talking about them and I know we're done something But we all love she cut like they're jerseys the history of their team like you bring back Patrick Kane all this shit You got to put something. Oh, no, I've said I need to try and Chicago good in the NHL. Yes, I know I and and and players should want it to happen too. I know players don't care if teams are not aren't good But what's but are you gonna say in a couple of years? All these guys are asking out what it what it's been done. Let me let me go to the complete opposite end of the spectrum The team that was behind the nine to two slacking The hurricanes we could talk about the oilers and their start and the wild Boys they're a fucking like how the hell How the hell is this team not going to be in the conference finals. Merles his bodies and shambles right now I don't think there's a chance in hell rather not in the conference finals and maybe maybe Florida can beat him Maybe Montreal can beat him. I watched the entire Bruins Florida game yesterday the Bruins. What an awesome start the hurricanes would wax them in the playoffs now now and and and there's a million different pieces to this team But this is the tweet that really got me and this is talk about development and talk about cap Keeping your cap in order. This is from Keynes dots SCN Jackson Blake now. I don't know where he gets this the first line is Jackson Blake was listed as a one percent chances in NHL I I'm not even taken. I don't even know what that means He has 47 points in his last 45 games. He has 19 points in 19 games this year 20 points in 19 playoffs games an eight 82% war that's a posh of stat 23 years old eight times five point one And Stankovan is the exact same thing. I think stankovan has 12 goals already this year. He's making six I don't know This team we could be looking at like a five-year run here where they might rip off a two or three more cups And thinking the way that they play that it would possibly slow down after the long run finally getting to the cup by I'm winning. I think that was realistic like oh man like they've just played so hard for so long Well, that was completely moronic. Yeah, they lost three games They are beating the shit out of hockey teams. Yeah, and I guess rotten and pigeon tossing them might have been one of the best things that ever happened to them too Yep, and not fitting into that style and it working out for both teams and then getting guys signed to these deals and I don't know like how G quickly look up like how long is aho signed for slave and I think they all have I want to say three to five more years most of these. They don't have a guy making over 10 million, right? I don't know if they have a guy making over nine. What's Slaven made? Slaven's nothing Slaven's not no, I'd explain it's lower than a half Aho could be 10. No. Yeah, maybe nine and a half rip through their roster and their capets quick. So Slaven makes 6.3 Q 100 Miller makes 7.5 Sebastian Aho 9.7 Nikolai Elers 8.5 Svetschnikov 7.7 Jarvis 7.4 Stankovans 6 Jackson Blake 5.5 point one Taylor Hall, three, Martinick, three Jordan stall two, uh, Mark Yanukowski, one point eight boys, they have, they have ealers weight chat field, three million, two gosses spare three million, I know, but when does chat fields end? Cause I was just going to read how he ain't going anywhere. They need to get cock me on me off, uh, off, which they will, they don't even have to. Yeah. Okay. So they'll, they'll lose chat field. I think no, I think he stays, but he can't turn down what he would make. They have 26 million caps face this. I can't see you. He's one of those guys. Like think of the relationship that he has with slave and that we heard about. I'm sure in the back of his mind, he's taken hometown discount. Yeah. Like he's got to know that if it wasn't for Jacob Slaven and chat fields, a great player, they just compliment each other so well. You got to stay with that guy as long as you can. Seven times six done. They'll sign that tomorrow. And shout out to Carolina when Ranton and was there and them, you know, getting rid of him. A lot of teams wouldn't do that. A lot of teams would have just been like, Hey, listen, we got a superstar player. You got to make it work here. They went out and got the players that they needed to win and it's going to help them for the long run as well. Tulsky. Tulsky and, uh, sunny, there are like similarities here. Tulsky is the engineer or the genius. And he has all the patents and then sunnies, the poker player and the musician and they never played. And it's like both of them are now, am I comparing New Jersey to Carolina? I guess right now. What the fuck am I doing? Why am I speaking? But in terms of GM's who are willing to just totally not go by the old school book and how things used to be done. It's, uh, it's a scary time for teams in the East looking at the hurricanes. One last nugget here. Coach, check off. He was 11 to know to start the year, which is a second best record for a goal tenor to start a season. He finally ended up losing one. I don't know who they lost to. I was surprised to see that Jack Campbell had held the NHL record for most wins to start a season at 14 games. He was 14 to know to start a season. And that was with the Toronto, uh, the Toronto Maple Leafs when he signed there. I want to get him on. He's going to come on. He, he messaged me. I, I'd messaged him and I don't know if he got a number change, but then I, I, I reached out to him on, uh, on Instagram. So he's got a great story. Um, we, we've talked about him before on here battling through his mental struggles. First rounder to, uh, Dallas came over to LA's organization ended up, uh, I think he won maybe goalie of the year in the NHL and was an all-star down there. And then obviously had a good rip in with Toronto and then Edmonton. So Chicago should sign. Yes. Yes. Well, they got night. Well, what else should we talk about? Um, I think we send it over to South Relic. And for anyone who doesn't know who that is, World Series champion played hockey in high school, played football in high school. It was a great at all of them played obviously baseball in high school. Then he goes to Boston College. I think the highest draft pick ever out of Boston College, 15th overall by the Milwaukee Brewers. And now World Series champ, he sat down with him, awesome person and an incredible baseball player. Let's throw it over to him now. This episode of spit and chickens is brought to you by Body Armor Flash IV. 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Well, R.A. mentioned, right? Are you played with styles? I coached his sister at the chicken. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. She was there. I was I was like, hey, if I was going to play if we if we were home, I'm like, I got to get there and play. Like, I was I was telling her, but we were still playing. So I saw R.A. was coaching her. And I was like, I know who that is. I don't know if you do, but like make sure to go say, hi, what not? She had a blast. What did she say about his coaching? She loved it. Yeah. She was like, well, I might have been going to the bars after and stuff she was talking about, but they were all the girls loved it. They were they had such a blast. That's awesome. Yeah. Well, so when he first told us about what your sister and then we were watching you, then we realized you were a hockey player growing up. So like, oh, we got to get this guy on if they win. I guess before we get into the world series and you love a baseball and how good you are, was hockey your first true love? Did you love that the most growing up? Yeah. I mean, I think I did especially at an early age. It was the most intense sport you were playing from a young age two, I think, you know, baseball wasn't, you know, it was more like the coach pitch and stuff and then flag football or whatever it was, but might hockey was like, you know, pretty intense, I think. And I loved it. Yeah, played through high school and still go home and skate during the offseason. I just I love it. When did you like realize that you were better at baseball than anything else because you were Massachusetts player of the year, you're senior in high school. I think you were QB. And then you realized pretty quickly baseball was your thing or were you hoping to play football in college as well? Yeah. So when I got to, so I played club hockey all the way through my my freshman year of high school and after freshman year, I kind of had to make that decision of like, okay, do I want to maybe go to prep school route here and play hockey or don't want to stay at public school and I'll just, you know, play high school and really play baseball and football. And so I kind of did that circuit going around and ended up making a decision just to to stop playing club and I just played high school hockey. And that's kind of when I think I started to click that football and baseball were probably the ones for me. And yeah, I committed to Boston College, my fresh or my sophomore year of high school. And then they offered me for football my junior year. So I'd play it on playing on both there. And my baseball coach there was like, Hey man, like you're a smaller dude, you know, you're going to be on full scholarship for football there. So they'll kind of have control of you. I think you should just play baseball. And I kind of thought about it, took his advice. So I ended up just playing baseball. You were the bow Jackson in Boston or at least a match I should say. Not even close. Maybe in my town. I don't know. But boy, he played two sports business. Right. Right. Well, I met like as far as like going to play division one college. So you would have been going to BC to play play football and and also baseball. Yeah. Yeah. Damn. That's, I mean, so did they promise you on the football side that you would be starting? Would you be red-shirting, like, what were the promises leading up to it? - No, yeah, they, they, I was a quarterback in high school too, but the football schools that I was talking to were pretty amazing athlete, just because I was, you know, that's what they'll do sometimes. So I would have been a slot receiver, kicker tournament, power tournament, I would not have played quarterback there. So that was kind of all the talks we got into with our wide receivers coach a lot. And then, I would say like a month or two later, I was like, you know what, I'm just gonna play baseball. Even for you being a baseball guy, did you have offers to go down south to play college or you always wanted to stick around close to home because, you know, getting drafted 15th overall, right? Like, that's gonna be one of the highest draft picks from Massachusetts ever, no? - Yeah, I'm not sure. I think, I know it is from Boston College, but BC was actually my only offer for baseball. - Oh, shit. - My high school offers, yeah. I would really say like, baseball was, not my third sport in high school, but like, it was, it's just not as popular with scouts and with the world baseball circuit. Like it is, you know, for hockey. And I, playing three sports wasn't going down and doing the tournaments, you know, in the winter, the fall down in Florida and stuff where a lot of kids go get on radars. So I did none of that stuff. And yeah, BC was the only school that offered me. - So going into high school, was it a tough decision for you to decide to stay on Lexington? I'm sure you had office to go to some of those prep schools. How tough of a decision was for you? - Yeah, I mean, I was so close with the kids I grew up playing club hockey with. And a lot of them were going to the ISL schools or the prep schools. And you really think hard about it. You're like, man, if I want to play hockey, like I want to go play with these guys, they're going to all these schools. And I just knew though that that was, when I was going to have to make the decision, like okay, I'm going to go full on hockey here. And I really didn't want to give up the football on baseball. And I also just had the sense of like, man, I really wanted to play for my town, like which was, you know, I saw guys, I went to the football games as, you know, a middle schooler. And I wanted to kind of have that feel. Not that the other ones don't, but I mean, yeah. - Your dad played college football, I think, correct? Like, was it for you growing up? He was obviously a component of playing multiple sports, trying everything. But for him, like was he just a football player? Did he play other sports as well? - Yeah, he played baseball too, maybe a little basketball, but yeah, so he's from Pennsylvania. He played football in college. And then I grew up in Boston. And I remember like all my friends were like skating. And we in my siblings were like, we want to do that. And he had no clue. Like he's never even seen a pair of skates before tied a pair. And so then he, I think he studied hockey for probably like, two years to try to help us out because we wanted to play so bad. And you know, researched all this different stuff. And yeah, it was, it was cool. But so now where I would say he's definitely a hockey guy. - If BC was only your only offer for baseball, when did things like really click? You must have made a step up, right? In terms of like the player you were, was it, was it senior year in high school? Was it when you got to BC? Like what kind of click to what happened to bring you to this next level would be drafted so high? - Yeah, I would say maybe my freshman year of college was cause I, I didn't have any, not that I didn't have aspirations of playing in the big leagues, but I didn't know how possible it was. And I didn't really ever compare myself to other players and just from being in the Northeast all the time. And when I, my freshman year after the first full season of ACC play and going down south and playing these guys had a pretty okay year. And I was like, okay, like I can kind of hang with these guys. And then my sophomore year was COVID, so we didn't play. And then came back from my junior year and had another good full season. I would say like towards the end of my junior year I was like, oh, I, like I might get drafted. But I really said in late, like I had no clue early on that it was possible. - What type of player were you in hockey? - I had no mits. I was more like business and I'm not saying you have mits, but I was a dumping chase guy. I crossed the red and they were screaming, get it off your stick. I was going in the corner and trying to hit someone from behind and yeah, you know, get a little face wash. Public high school hockey. You see some of the biggest hits. - I'm like usually just like football players. Like everyone's kind of a mixture and it's usually some savages out there with playing the wood. - I was a goon and I, I wasn't like, I don't say like I wasn't skilled at it, you know. So like, you know, she was able to shoot the puck and stick handle. But I, if you don't, if you don't play that way in public high school hockey and Massachusetts, like you're gonna get your head taken off. So yeah, it's a, get a little nasty in there. - Oh, yeah. - So as an awful little ego, as I was. - All right, you go out with these guys partying. You're in the fucking celebration or what? Holy shit. They shaved his head. - Yeah. - God, he's, I was a terrible little ego. So right field is where you always get stuck a little bit. Little league, how did you end up in right field and did you like it when you first got stuck there? - Yeah, so I played shortstop growing up. I would think if you asked like even most outfielders in the big leagues, they probably played shortstop growing up. Then when I got to college my freshman year, I went in as a two way. Just, you know, I wanted to make sure I could try to get on the field and the only spot was in right. And I was like, I can play, I can play right. Now, it's a lot easier than playing in field. So they stuck me out there and kind of just, then I moved to center my junior year and then when I got drafted, did a little both and ended up in right. - Not the sound disrespectful. Is it like a pretty simple position where all that really matters is really like you're at bats? Like if you have to learn how to catch fly ball, I'm not trying to take it. - It's not a goal glove. - No, hey, this is completely-- - See ball catch ball. - Yeah, no, completely reasonable question. I guess a ton. I would say, I would say if you look at the corner outfields, the ones left and right, you don't have to cover as much ground as center field, but the balls that are hit to left field in right field will usually have more spin on them towards the line or coming back to you. So I would say the balls you're going after are a little harder to read. And then the other thing with right field is it's the longest throw to third in home so they usually try to put someone there who, which I don't, but they has a cannon. - It hoes. - And so that's kind of the other component of it is the throw game comes in a lot in right field. - I would imagine though, as you keep going up, the batting against these pitchers and going from hitting against guys in college compared to the big leagues, they must be fucking throwing stuff to you where you think it's gonna hit you in the head and then it goes like a bottom, the bottom and the other side. What's it like getting used to the velocity and these wizards and what they can throw at you? - Yeah, I feel like I see a new pitch every year. It's absurd. These pitchers are just inventing stuff and you come back, they're throwing three miles an hour harder and I'm like, the pitching has gotten so good. We kind of have the saying on our team though is prepared to die. So when you go into the box, you have to prepare to die, meaning if a ball's coming at your face, you can't get out of the way. 'Cause it's most likely gonna be a curve ball. - That's gonna break into the zone. So we kind of try to train to go up there. You might take one in between the eyes, but like 99% of the time it's gonna be a curve ball. That's gonna come back in the zone. So just hang in there as long as you can. And so that's kind of helps a little bit, I guess. - Sounds happy, go more in the cage than in the off season. They're like, just throw it on my head. So do you think a big component to being a good batter is basically not being a pussy? - Yeah, definitely a component of it. I mean, I would say, so I'm a lefty. And so when I face left handed pitching, is when it's the most dangerous is the word, but that's when you need to kind of reach out and see if you're a man because they're throwing from like, I'm almost looking like behind me to pick up the release point and everything starts behind me. Looks like you're gonna go to the backstop or a curve's in. So that's when you really gotta lock in and stand your ground. - What's a better feeling? Robbing a home run to win yourself the game or hitting a walkoff. - I think he can't, he can't rob home runs. - I can rob home runs because of five six. - Everyone else can just stand there. I have to jump like. - It's hard to work for him. - I can only jump. I would say hitting a walkoff to end the game is great. You get to come out of the dugout and everyone's sell his on the field like versus, you know, maybe take him on a way. You're just getting in the handshake line. So it's more chaotic after you hit a walkoff for sure. - How many times in the outfield do you find yourself like, oh, fuck, I don't even remember that. - Look at that smoke. - Like maybe four or five times a game where I'm kind of just like, you look in the catcher throwing it back to the pitcher and you're like, that could have been hit at me. That wasn't even there. - How many times a year do you hear the ball hit the bat and you're like, oh, fuck. It happened in the playoffs and I literally like, I literally had to like talk to myself on the bench and be like, do this the world series. You can't, you can't take it. - Lock in. - But no, it does happen. It does happen like, especially sometimes if it's like a midweek game and you're on like, you know, 15 in a row and you're in a city where there's, you know, no fans and you're just kind of just like out there. But it's tough. It's something that, you know, I haven't fully mastered yet. - As a Red Sox fan, the year that they were doing shots of Whiskey before the game, like that comes out after it's great. And then the Brewers, we find out it's a pre-game cigarette. Like, how does that begin? Like, what is the, what is the beginning of the ripened darts before big games? - Yeah, I mean, per se, you know, the MLB band itself, like unfortunately we're not allowed to but if we were I would say that some of the older guys maybe like two or three years ago that I've played with that kind of grew up in that maybe that era that always had them around even the pitchers that weren't throwing would always end up in the cage maybe so it just always people were in there and I'm you go by like it kind of smells like smoke then you go out and they dominate in the game and you're like there's something to that and yeah if there was a slogan it would maybe be like you got to you got to repeat you know go smoke heaters to hit heaters and uh yeah the boys uh the boys always I would have had a cool slogan if you guys have did it yeah correct yeah that's a tight type of things that wins championship you know uh what about pitchers in MOB business talking about how talent they are and the speed and anyone in particular like talking a lot of shit no I wouldn't say I wouldn't say too much I mean um there's some relievers that get super animated we have one in our team Abner Yerebae if you guys haven't seen that guy celebrate after he gets three outs definitely go check it out but we're like they're playing with fire because if he gets if he gets got one time I mean it might be the longest home run shot in history um but I would say the starters are pretty civil especially because they're gonna go back out for another inning and they're kind of in in their zone but um yeah there's some relievers and closers that can get pretty animated we asked uh Ernie Clement this because he's a hockey guy as well like how much are you and he was saying he's itching for it like how much are you itching for a bench clearing brawl something that happened where you can just go and grab someone it's an eye yeah we had one last year I actually Yerebae who was my teammate squared me up in the face he punched me he missed the guy and I I come off the bench and I grab this guy from behind I'm like I'm trying to get a sweater over his head right and Yerebae comes out like this whiff so wraps his fist around and I just I caught a hook to the face hat when flying um but yeah I know you you live for that uh especially in the like two or three times it happens maybe a year sell uh we're just been sitting the red socks you know so much of this championship from Milwaukee reminded me of the socks in 04 I know you're a little bit younger but just you know guys crying that the grand parents who might have missed the championship just like it was like a huge emotional relief that reminded me so much was there any shower or maybe you know that wasn't on the camera that really caught your eye maybe like you know probably emotions to to the forefront that like nobody really like saw maybe like a fan off to the side you made it over or something yeah I mean great comparison because yeah they've never had a championship and I would say during the parade uh we were kind of taking the trophy off off the the bus and and walking it down to the fan so they could touch it and see it and you're seeing you know grown men like balling their eyes out and you know or maybe a parent and their kid having like this memory and that's when you kind of realize like how much it meant to them um not that it wouldn't to other fan bases but like they they were just so starving um for a world championship and I think that was the first time like I really saw it and full like wow this this meant a lot yeah that one dude grabbed me by the neck I thought I was trying to give you a little smooch that that one dude did he go with like the tongue you're saying already no but like he was patting on the back but then it's like he's hand up in his hair and his neck and stuff oh when I think of uh Milwaukee Brewers I think of uh Bob Euker and like I was just wondering is he still like are you guys still saying lines that he said does he still have uh like his presence even though obviously he's in heaven watching down on you guys but is his his presence still felt around the clubhouse oh yeah for sure I mean you can't uh it's probably not a day in the clubhouse that um happens right I don't hear his name or story being told about him or something especially to maybe some of the younger guys that didn't get a chance to be around him and um it was pretty special going on this run uh for him I think I'm if you saw we the day we won the world series I believe it was his wife's birthday um which was like so cool um just little things um but he's definitely always around okay so this is going to be a long winded question but I hope for a very long answer the one cool thing for me about baseball is how it's like a chess match right like obviously the action there's not a lot of game time action but there's so many of these like little nuances of the game so I watched a clip and uh your manager apparently he's very well respected a very highly intelligent manager uh going against the Dodgers um you there was one guy who was going up the bat and he said hey he goes he goes bunch yeah so he bunched it and the reason for that is he goes now every time you're gonna get good pitches to look at I don't know why that would be but how many of these little types of things are going on throughout the course of a series in order to get you guys over the hump and I guess talk and elaborate on that one specifically and rifle off like 10 different ones that we would have no clue about being hockey fans yeah so that one specifically um so that was David Hamilton who's our uh in plays and field for us flies like absolutely flies doesn't have a lot of homers and led the league and but but hits this year so like everyone knows he's gonna bond they bring their third baseman so far in that like he can't even get a bunk down because the third baseman's playing right there and Murphy's like and this is against the Dodgers I think Tyler Glass now is a perfect game going and he's like hey I want you to drop down a bot you're probably gonna be out but I want you to drop down a bot because you're gonna get good pitches to see drops it down gets thrown out rest of the next at bat hit I think last at bat Homer and the reason is like the pitchers especially when they get maybe towards the bottom of the order they don't want to walk those guys because you don't want your one two three hitters come up with guys on base and if they don't want to walk on more pitches are gonna show up middle and if they think on top of that that he's just gonna bunt and probably get out they'll start grooving stuff right down the middle especially like early in the count um and that's kind of what the thinking was there and what happened was that maybe those pitchers were like okay there's a chance he's gonna bunt I don't want to walk him and let him on base like he's gonna have to hit his way there let's just start grooving our pitches like hard of the plate he gets a single he gets a single but um yeah and he ended up hitting the Homer's last step out of like a one maybe one of the best players the game got like a great pitch to hit yes I was that sort but that that stuff happens like all year and like Murph our manager is like above and beyond with that stuff hill hill you know I'll be in the hole sitting like waiting to go on deck and what's that means the hole so the guy the batter that's up is in the box then on deck is the person's on the on deck circle and then if you're in the hole you're the third guy and you're usually just ready on the top step and like I like the hole yeah yeah yeah you be double hole would be after that I'll get your out of all get you whatever you want I'll be a little hot fox hole buddy but but Murph will just like so so much so like a count a dozen times your hill basically like you're going to get a first pitch fastball away then he's going to throw you a cutter in on your hands to try to speed you up and then he's going to throw the change up away and I'll go up and it's the exact same sequence no shit and he's so he's seen so much baseball he knows the game and it's not just him there's plenty of guys that have been around the game for so long but it's it's so cool being around guys like that um that just have a feel for the game and no um is it helps you out especially in close games like that and it also with like like uh infield alignment and that type of stuff so like what are some other things that this guy is a savant that where maybe he gave you the upper hand and any of these series like you just mentioned that one like any any other ones that were key pivotal moments that help you guys get over the hump and this one yeah I would say a big one is so you'll see a lot of times now you'll hear like platoon players or like you know I'm a lefty hitter a lefty reliever's coming out of the bullpen throwing steam I'm getting pinch hit for for the righty hitter and he hates it he's not big into the data and maybe like the matchups and during the year he lets it go a lot of the time but in the playoffs um we our first baseman Jake Bauer's had like a 12-pitch at bat and hit a homer off Blake Snell who's a really hard person to get to um I actually ended up I hadn't faced a lefty in probably two months Murf keeps me in there they bring in this lefty um I hit a homer off a lefty with him he had like four left on left homers and we hadn't had one like all year and Murf just had he has his hunch almost where he's like I might get in trouble for going against the the data here but like playoff baseball I have a hunch I'm gonna go with the guys that have been in and he's let some ride and it worked out do you think it's because that he thinks that they think that you're going to sub sub UL for a righty but then like now it's kind of fucking with the pitcher like for sure because a lot of times like what they'll do is is warm up a lefty and a righty at the same time because that means the hit the offense always has to make the move first so say I'm on deck right and the they're warming up for um they're what say they're warming up a lefty and a righty he can't pinch hit me or he has to make the move first and then the other team can go to the bowl pan and make the move I didn't know I thought it was home team I thought a lefty comes in then he's like all right pinch hit he has to send you out to bat wherever he sends out to bat that pitcher then gets the coming in face right so what I'm saying is like say they bring in a lefty right and he so now the rule is you have to face three batters so they'll bring in the lefty for three batters on the fourth batter they're warming up a a righty in the pen so it's like okay Do I want Sal to face this lefty because they won't change the picture. So as his decision is, okay, I have to face the lefty or the righty he's going to pinch it for me is going to face the righty in the bullpen. And so then getting that chess match, but sometimes they'll just warm up guys in the bullpen who they're not really bringing in the game. They just want to bluff so that they won't pinch hit the righty. There's yeah. Did I miss here? You said when a pitcher comes in, he has to face at least three batters. Yeah. So it used to be, you could bring in a reliever to face one batter. He gets the out. You can go to the next guy. Now they have to face a minimum three batters. What if they really change that? That's different. And they have to, they, if you bring a guy with two outs and he gets the last out, the next sitting you can bring in a base post made all these incredible rules. I know. It's clock ABS. And just in time for a season canceling right exactly. One of the, I did like a day with the Red Sox. This is years ago, but the one thing that I was so amazed by, like guys were in the club in the locker room playing cards with Terry Francona just like shooting the shit. Just so much different than hockey. Maybe hockey's changed a little bit now, but your coach especially seems like a guy like who's, you know, he's like one of the guys with you guys. Oh, yeah. For sure. And I don't know exactly what it is with, with hockey, I know you guys maybe have morning skates sometimes and then we'll go home and then come back to the ring later, right? And for us, it's like we don't ever practice because we play every single day. So our practice is basically like before the game. So like seven o'clock game, I'm getting there around noon, 1230. And we have, you know, we have to share the field with the other teams. So like the home team will take their practice first, batting practice first, basically. You come back in while the other teams take in their batting practice. And there's a lot of downtime aside from like a couple of meetings. And yeah, cards are always going. We have this year we found we have a crops table in our, our water. Yeah. We had this like we had horse horse racing game. I mean, you can find all these different things to keep you busy throughout the year. But that's like some of the best memories you make are the downtime in the clubhouse. I'm with the guys just just doing fun stuff. It's spring training. Have you faced like Miss Eroski, I think I'm saying it right like when he's going full bars, he never going full board against you guys. He's not in spring, but we had to buy after we swept the Dodgers and the, and the raisin guardians were still playing. So we were doing inner squads and miss only through one. So he had to throw again. So we faced him in life then. And it was a start. He hit me. I got hit. Like the first of the game. Are you kidding me? Who's this guy? He throws like a hundred and thirty. He disintegrated. How tall is he? Six, five. Maybe he's throwing one or four like on the regular. Yeah. A hundred and four gamers, you're going to leave harder. Yeah. Seven innings and, and, and it feels like he's like placing the ball in the catchers mid because he's, he's so long like getting to home plate. It was, I don't understand how people hit him. Yeah. So you were just talking about Murphy and how he goes with field more than like analytics a lot. But I, I felt that this was like an old school series like 70s, 80s style baseball that I grew up watching. But I want to go to the bottom of the six game to a huge home and you tie things up. Like take us through like you going around the bases. When did you know it was absolutely gone? You got that hand up the, the awesome pitch they put in the front page of the paper. Take us through that process and you go around the bases and when you do it was gone. Was that in the world series against Tampa? Yeah. Yeah. He tied up the game bottom of the six. Yeah. So, and Murphy will tell me and I, it's pretty true if I, I can't hit the ball in the air to center field because it's an out every single time for the rest of my life. And so I was actually telling the ball. I was, I was trying to like get down like in front of the center field because I kind of hit it low. And then I just saw him going back and I'm like there, there's no way it's going to cook him. And then when I saw go over the wall, I just like, I blocked out I was, I threw like 18 fingers up to the bullpen. Like I couldn't stop. I was sprinting and just like, like you're floating going around the bases. So I was just, yeah, insane. Yeah. You were going too fast that I like when the guy is fucking pimp it and go like one mile an hour or take some. Oh, yeah. Contreras. Yeah. To the bullpen and throw this battle the way up in the air. That, I mean, at least back in the day, the next batter is getting pimp. Hundred percent. Yeah. And if I, if I ever did that, I think someone would either, you know, punch me in the nose or my father would. So I try to sprint around and get back with the boys, but I think I'm going to have one William trot at some point. I'm always fascinated by the catchers because it's almost like you're a starting goalie, but yet you relied upon to produce offense. Like it's almost like the whole reason runs for you through, through you. So this William Contreras is your guy's, that's your guy's guy back there. Yeah. Good as he at the, you know, how you guys unbelievable dude, it'll be ridiculous. But yet this and he's like, yeah, and they're like strike. It's ridiculous. Yeah. All the challenge. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I would, I would almost compare it. Because that, I would say it's like 50, 50 on like, maybe even like a little bit more offensively, they want or defensively, they want catchers being, but yeah, he's unbelievable, ABS. He also wants to catch 162 games, which is like unheard of. Most catchers will be like in the 120 range and he just will go back there every single game. Valball is flying off them and he, yeah, he's, he's our pit bull back there. It's good to have. Just a game, right? Yeah. I love the emotion he showed to after the game. And you guys are doing all the other views. You know, very, very emotional, but you must have seen the picture of him too. They took from those cameras. They put on the roof and the stadium and he was looking right up. Oh, sick picture. Yeah. Unbelievable. Yeah. I think it might have been a drone. Yeah. Well, they, the eagle eye one. Yeah. They have, they take, they take it on a time of soul like the, the guy's basically at ground level, but he takes the, yeah, he was looking right at it, but I want to go. Oh, I saw that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's looking right up. And he's looking right into the camera, but I'm sure you couldn't see it because it's so like far up. Yeah. Yeah. Just spectacular photo. I think the only other thing was the plate and the bat in the, in the photo. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. But I'm going to go to your diving catch. I think you guys are already up 10 and one in that game. And, you know, like maybe not everyone's going to sell off of that ball across the world series. But like, did you come close to like mess up your wrist or getting hurt at all there? Just they look like you might have f things up a tad there. Yeah. But the win knocked out of me that so the drop is like turf, but like I would say like not even a foot below the turf is just straight concrete. And it's just knocked the wind out of me and I'll try to let him know I was good. But yet, I mean, again, people were like, yo, 10 one ball game. Why you? It's just like, I would get benched if I didn't die for that. And then you also, you know, there's a guy in the mound who's pitching in the world series. What if he can say that he went one, two, three in the world series, you know, or he didn't give up a hit in the world series and as as the defense, you want to take pride in like having pitchers backs kind of like that. So, yeah. That's amazing. I was going to ask about Yillich. He would be one of the only baseball players I would have known before I met the Blue Jays guys when we smoked him in the sandbagger. So I would believe he would probably be the longest domination dominated him, gummy style. He would probably be the longest tenured brewer. Yeah. He's been there and stuck it out in a small market, right? He's the captain of the squad, like just what's he like behind the scenes and he talked about so much about the camaraderie matter and because it's like, you're spending so much time off the field together. So how much of a catalyst was he to contribute to that? Yeah. Just the main reason why we're there and I'm if you saw, we granted him a C on his jersey. And that's like not a thing in baseball. The Royals catcher has one that he wears and I think we're the only other team. And we got to go through the league and ask him and we presented it to him after the season and put his C on his jersey, which is like an insane honor. But he deserves it. We're a small market team. We don't get a lot of superstars. And he is a superstar. He won the MVP. He's been in all the stars, silver sluggers. And he has every right to kind of be showy or not really care about the little things. But all the guy does is harp on, you know, base running and defense and bunting. Basically like created our culture, knowing where a smaller market team, those are the players we're going to get. And he's the best base for and I've ever played with and the best bunter I've ever played with. But like, no one knows that because of what a superstar he is. So there's been no one better to kind of lead our team than the Nelly. How good do you think for you guys as a union? This world series, you got two small market teams playing in the finals. I know, even though, you know, us three, me, you and our a Patriots fans and loved it when the Patriots are winning all their super balls, but people like new blood, right? And with LA winning and obviously you guys in Tampa going to the finals, two smaller market teams. I think personally, it's great for the game, right? You're, you're proving that you don't have to spend $10 billion to win a championship. 100%. You, you definitely feel the hat a little, especially as we were going to LA to play the Dodgers were like, everyone knows that there's a little bit more in stake with the other side of the game going on right now. And I think having those two teams in the world series was great. And I think you are slowly going to see the game maybe start ticking back towards less homers, less strikeouts, more balls in play. Maybe not as much power, but more singles, stolen base and stuff like that. Just because I think the league is seeing how some of the teams that have made it to the world series, the past year's play. And I think it's going to be great for what's going to happen here in a few months and just a good kind of thing to fall back on for the players when we. start, you know, are gonna maybe be, you know, the seller cap isn't the issue. Um, so yeah. We just talked about the legendary photo. You're the most legendary quote I think from a celebration anywhere. Uh, I'm gonna have a beer every person here. I'm gonna have a hundred thousand beers. Let's go like obviously you can't rehearse something like that. That just like come to you. Look at the crowd. Just the euphoria of everything. Like that was. Yeah. Yeah. We were. We were on a hundred thousand. No, the week. Yeah. I think I, I think I, I think I made, I made a promise. I probably can't keep up. There's not really a time limit on it. But no, we were out on the stage during the rally. And I think I got the mic somehow. Not a good idea. And I'm our, I'm, we're already had the parades. The boys are buzzing. And I just looked out and I just eyeballed. I thought it was probably a hundred thousand. It was probably like 15. And uh, so I was gonna have a beer for every single person. But the net. It's funny. The next morning. I woke up. I was I need don't need a coffee or breakfast, whatever. I probably got 25 beers handed to me from 9 a.m. to 11 a.m. Um, just from random people in Wisconsin. It telling me they wanted to help out with it. And I'm like, what have I done? He promised. Speaking of beer, how good is the spotted cow? I was in a wet, uh, something I was in a wedding in Wisconsin. And now my brother's son plays in Wisconsin and Madison, uh, in the USHL. And that's all he does is when he goes out there, it's just pound those things. It's the best. It's, it's my favorite beer. I ship my car home at the end of the year. My, my car's like slanted like this because I have like 12 cases of spotted cow. I just ship it home. I take it to all my, my buddy's dropping out of their houses. It's, yeah, it's, it's really good. What a, it must be a fun city to play in. That's a great little time. Yeah, it's great. And come on, growing up in Boston, I, um, you know, I'm being around New York City and stuff like I hadn't really lived in a smaller city before. And they love baseball that they love their baseball. Um, and it just makes a little bit more passionate fan base, I think, um, kind of like a mom and pop town. And my favorite part is like, it's not like Boston, New York where like I can go over 15 and feel like I can't leave my apartment. Like, yeah, I can go over 15 and they're like, we love watching you play like I'm like really, um, but it's that kind of fan base and it makes playing there like great. Have you ever slid down that slide? So they had a reporter broke like, literally broke his femur sliding down it like three or four years ago. So they won't let any players slide down it. Um, so I have slid down it yet. Yeah, he like slid down and just like, I mean, it looks like a lot of athletic broke. I thought I saw, who's the big picture on the red socks with the glasses, the mustache. He was doing like, Peyton Tully. I thought I saw him doing it during the thing. Yeah. He was the like correspondent for the World Series. I think he, I think he might probably went down it. But yeah, this is a great question from G in the chat here. He goes as a noted hockey guy. Do you think it's weird that baseball players pop champagne after every round? I think it's incredible. I've gone back and forth with this a ton of times. I wasn't touching the trophy that we got when we won the, um, and I'll see. Yes. I'm like, everyone's touching. I like, we can't touch that. What are we doing right now? And I was my first time winning it, but I just assumed like, yeah, it wasn't just CNHL that did that. And some of the older guys like Yelly will like explain to me how hard it is to like, there's some guys that have played 10 years, 20 years, whatever's that have never popped champagne before. He's like, you don't understand how hard it is. So you celebrate it. Um, but at the same time, I will always be like, you know, yeah, I get it's hard, but it's got to be hard in the other sports too. And like, you know, there's not really this big celebration going on till the final one. But I think when you have the mindset of like, okay, we're spraying because of what we did, but we're not done yet. Like, good things will happen. So, yeah. So did you end up touching it? I think I took a picture with it. I don't think I'd, yeah, yeah. Just kept it beside you had a cigarette with it. Yeah. Sashed on it. Yeah. The the last few seasons of, you know, like coming up short, like struggling a little bit, you know, trying to get past the dodges and whatnot. Did that just sort of make that this title all the most sweeter that you sacrifice and put in, you know, so much hot eight before you go. Oh, yeah. Sure. I mean, I would say there's just so much disappointment every year. Like, you're just so upset going home every year. Um, I was like, I almost rather not even make the playoffs and then the past three years before this year, we went and lost like it just, it's such a terrible feeling that, but like in spring training this year, I really was like, you know, like, that's going to help us in the long run. Like, next thing you know, we're back playing the dodges where we got swept a year ago. And it's like, all right, things might be a little different. So, I think that failure, especially when guys take it that bad, like, can really help. So, which is why I think you might, I think, make Jesus might be, might be his year this year, you know, fucking rights. It is. So glad you said that when Whit was gone. Hey, get a good look back for you. I'm sure you're enjoying doing all the year rounds and all the media stuff, but how excited are you to get home? And, you know, I'm sure everybody that supported you, right? It's to share that with them. Yeah. And at the end of the day, you know, you play an extra month and it's been like eight or nine months since you've been home with family and stuff. And I'm in Boston in the off season. And I just, you know, I can't wait to go back and you go back there too. It's like, you feel like you're not a professional athlete. I don't feel like I'm a baseball player and I'm back there. I'm just back with the boys. Like, um, so yeah, I can't wait to get home and we'll be, we got, we got Monday, three is at Connie forum. Like I'm pumped. So what the hell's that? That's the hockey rink at Boston college. We got like a little, you know, I just time like Monday nights, a couple of us will go over and sick. Okay. Um, I only got a couple more here. This one is like hockey locker rooms. Like, there's not like a ton of multiculturalism, right? Like you, you know, that's just the difference between sports. But you go into a baseball locker room. Like you're going to have a guy from like Venezuela, a guy from Mexico. You might have a guy from Japan. Like, um, you know, what, what's it like as sharing a locker room with people from such different cultures? And what are some of the silliest shit that these guys do? Like, uh, I think one of your star players, he's a young stud 22 years old. Um, he is uh, uh, he's, uh, Venezuela and chariot chariot. Yeah. What are these fuckers doing? They got the big chains on. It's crazy. I mean, they, it's like a party 24/7. Like, it's a full on party. Doesn't matter if we just, or if we're on the plane at like 2 a.m. or at the field at 9 a.m. Like the speaker is just blasting. I don't think I could listen to another Latin song for at least three months. Like they're just partying. They're yelling at each other. Like dancing. But it keeps you, it keeps you entertained. And I would say like, especially our team, um, we're really close. And a lot of times in, in clubhouses, the Latins and the non-Latins, not separate, but like there's a barrier, especially with language and whatnot. You should see like, or all within all doing the same stuff. Like we all go out after. I, we were going fishing with some of them, um, on off days and, you know, they're cooking for it. Like it's, it was really, really great. Um, I think we had, you always have a few Latin players on the team, maybe older guys speak English, that are really good at, um, having that like merger between the two sides. But it was great. Definitely kind of one big clubhouse. And my last one would be, you just mentioned with Jesus, uh, probably the single most dominant player at any sport right now. I believe it. Um, you got to play. I think he was injured for part of the series. We've got to play a little bit in, um, I'm drawn a blank here. Show later. Uh, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What's it like playing against him? And it would you say that he's like the greatest baseball player to ever live? Yeah. And I, I'm, I'm with you on McDavid being the most dominant athlete at his sport. I think if there's one person that would rival him, it would be Shohei. Um, yeah. Last year in the playoffs, he pitched game four, struck out 10 batters and hit three home runs in the same game. And I was just like, that's, that's the greatest baseball player of all time. Um, this year was a little different. He, he wasn't pitching towards the end of the stretch. He was just hitting, he was battling some injuries, but like it's going to be hard for him to kind of maintain that, I think, but if anybody could, could battle McDavid, I think, uh, Otani's that guy, um, I'm in our, in our sport. Is he, is he, he's a big guy? And he's huge, huge, like, he's just shredded. I mean, he's got to be six, four, and like, not an ounce of body fat on him. Like, yeah, just the weapon. Seems like a good guy. Like, all those Japanese guys seem like really humble. Oh, yeah. I can't win a bet, but, yeah. I was, I was actually, I played for, I played for team Italy in the world baseball classic three years ago. And we ended up winning our pool in Taiwan, went to Japan to play the, the Japanese team in, like the quarter finals in the Tokyo dome. Shohei started the game. He came out, and I mean, like, everyone is crying. Like, he's like a god there. And I would, I would say like, I don't know how much McDavid is treated in Canada, or especially in Edmonton, but watching him in his home country was like, you're just like, oh my gosh, this guy is so much bigger than you think. I'm getting chills thinking about it. The greatest hockey experience of my life is getting to go to Stanley Cup finals because we were doing it with TNT and Metallica and them hitting the ice. Like, they talk about the bell center and other places like the bell center is like more like church and it's more like, you know, respected and stuff like that. But as far as like chaos and bringing the heat and noise, I was say that I would hope that the trilogy Edmonton, Florida, game seven in Edmonton, that would be the single greatest hockey experience of anybody's life for like atmosphere, how many people in the building, and how much noise and just energy. And obviously with McDavid out there. Yeah. Sneaky. Winnipeg. No, didn't that series last year where they scored with like, how many much time was left? Like that place looked like insane. Yeah. They're all wear the whiteouts, right? The whiteouts. Yeah. It's only there, I think that Max are getting in there is like just over 15,000. I think in everybody in orange, everybody's got a jersey on in Edmonton and you're dealing with 20,000 people. And they're just there. And they might and they might take their clothes off too. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not sure I'm going to roof on that one, best, but sell one guy I want to ask about from my generation. I mean, I remember the 82 pro was the first time they went to the world series. Robin Yount, he's a guy who seems to be around the team a lot. He was in the the locker map. You guys wanted to have a relationship with him all with him at all. And like, what does he mean? So like the guys on the team these days. Yeah, it's great. Although all the guys on that team, they were there for the parade. They were there with us pop and champagne in that playoff run. They're Hall of Famers, right? Yeah, all three thousand hits. That stuff is like hard to do. And they were close to winning the world series one game away. Abby's well bang as yeah. Yeah. So they're around all the time. And they came up to us after we're just saying how much they feel relieved. They felt like for so long, they were like, man, we were so close and could have get it done. We don't know if it'll happen. We couldn't get it done for the city. So they kept coming up saying like, man, it lifted a big like weight off our shoulders. And you're looking at this guy like, wow, it's a Hall of Famers saying that. So it was pretty cool. That that. Do you guys get a day with the trophy like they do with the cup? You know, I was just I just asked somebody that because I'm like, how's it working? They're like, well, you can get replicas. So like, if you want a replica of it, you can get one from your house. But I'm like, what if I want to like, you know, take it back home for a week, like spend a night at loco with it? You can be like, I've been down on Broadway just my shirt off. But they they, yeah, I don't think so. Because I was also like, I think when the cup gets from place to place is the guy with like the white gloves, is he the one transporting it everywhere? Yeah, he brings it. Yeah. So like, I don't think there's someone like that with with the trophy. So like, I don't know how it would get to every place. But they don't think they do anything. Still a party. I love the Milwaukee Brewers. I might be one of the best logo sports. Is that what you guys are just talking about? No. Yeah, it's just singing. Have you heard that song? The Milwaukee Brewers? It's ridiculous. I think it used to just be like Milwaukee and like the Miller light font. And now it's, yeah, like the M and the B with the glove and the ball. It's cool. Oh, it's unbelievable. Yeah. The late 70s early early 80s, like that rubbing up lately. Yeah, B in the M day, a lot of people don't they either see the B in the M or they see the ball in the glove. That is both incredible. Yeah, it is good shit. So any any vacation plans come up to unwind a little after you little chip, you should bend to here, maybe a little Caribbean trip, anything. No, I think I think I'm going to already wants to know if you got a Florida for a week or a few days and other than that, I like being in Boston, especially before it gets too cold in the falls. There you go. Get the sticks out and try to get the last few rounds in before I can anymore. Where is your guy's spring training? You guys great. Yeah, we're in, we're in AZ. We're in Maryville. I don't know if you're familiar from being out there, but like basically downtown Phoenix. It's like not really like right off Indian school. So we stay. We're pretty much over in like closer like Scottsdale. I live here. Oh, you're full time. I'm in Scottsdale. Yeah. This might have to you might have to come take a little batting practice. I'll come back. I had a dinger once did you with the J's? Well, next time miss is throwing live. We're going to. Oh, yeah, her last. Yeah, in the bottom of the box. Got to do the back corner of it, but I'll stand in there. Yeah, I actually went to game seven Dodgers in Blue J's last year. It was the saddest I've ever seen fan base, buddy. They fucking they had. Can you answer me one thing without sewer in the guy who is on third as the pinch runner? Yeah, I mean, should he have more of a lead off there? So it wasn't as much and this is I can't say anybody would have done anything differently than him, but it's been a big teaching point for the future. I wouldn't say it was as much the lead, but so he slid into home plate, right? Whereas he could have ran through the base as if he was we're trying to be out of ball to first, which maybe might have stayed a step or two and got him there quicker, but again, that's, you know, it's getting down the nitty gritty. That was a great, great game, though, and great series. That's why yellow stresses the base runner. Yeah, exactly. He had a big play there where he we had a big base running play that ended up we scored six hits in a row after and basically one was the game because he was safe because he got a big lead, but yeah, is that your first you've been to baseball games? Or is that was like, no, no, I'd been before. I just like not the biggest baseball guy. Yeah, but just, you know, but crazy game to be at. I think the bench is cleared at one point. Maybe it was it was so sick. It was that one Japanese pitcher was a fucking machine. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yamamoto. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's insane. I feel like that's almost like Muhammad, where if you said, yeah, I'm a motor judge, Japanese guys, you're 50% of the time, you're right, right? Well, maybe some, yeah, maybe the if you put a twist on it. Yeah. But hey, this has been great, man. Congratulations on everything. Like this is, are you signed for next year? Yeah. So basically, you're under team control for like seven years in baseball. So this was my fourth year. So I'll be under team control for the next three years. And that's when you reach for agency, but I'll be with the breweries unless they let's they trade my ass away. So if there is a lockout, I know, like in hockey guys, some guys went over to Europe and played. Is there anything for you guys to do or no? We were trying to think like, and it's weird because I'm in Boston, the whole off season. So like when I start doing live at bats and stuff, it's always indoors or in a cage. We'll just set them out and stuff. And I'm like, we're already talking like if there is a lockout, we're going to probably all just ship it either to Florida or Arizona where we can get outside. We got teammates in different places and just kind of do live at bats. You're not really going to get full scrimmages. But yeah, with the lockout, they could basically save your locked out, your locked out, your locked out opening days a week. You're playing that game. And you're like, oh, I got a week here. So I want to make sure you're ready, but start to talk about it. So just a couple of last quick ones here. I mean, we talked about you earlier, but did you grow up at the church of Major League watching that movie whole life for you? Well, versus it before you. Yeah, it was I was a little too young. Yeah, little too young. I've obviously seen it and come to love it. But it wasn't like when I was a kid, you know, like the the baseball movie that I always went to. But yeah, I mean, you could be always asked you to do the impersonations of it. And he loved doing it. So, so awesome. And last one, the limbo leap, when you guys went to the Packers game. How awesome was that man? You've been must have only been a long time for that. Oh, it was sick. Yeah, we landed from Tampa. And somebody was like, hey, the Packers are playing. We might be able to get there for the first quarter. And we're like, all right, we were like, we got to do this. So we took to trophy. We got off the plane, hopped on the bus, went to lambo, got there like right at the end of the first quarter. And they just rolled us right out to the corner of the end zone. We came out with the trophy. They were going nuts. And I just remember looking behind the end zone, because I was like, I'm going to size up this wall, see how like tall it is for people getting up there. And they're like this, they're like this. I'm like, I got to go. So we all just sprinted and and leaped. And they were, it was so cool. Yeah. That's awesome. We guys are living the dream, man. Yeah. I won't be paying for any beers. I was actually Milwaukee. I was going to say 2003. I went through a bachelor party in Chicago. And in the red spots of playing in Milwaukee. So we got it. We weren't thought a bus to the pocket lot in Milwaukee. Had a little bachelor party actually on the bus in the pocket on after. And then the next day we went in Kerrywood. It was Kerrywood versus Roger Clemmons. It's really the next day. Clemmons was going first 300th wind versus Kerrywood. He ended up losing the game. So that was my one and only trip to Milwaukee. But hopefully I'll get back as soon. Yeah. For sure. You love it. Only time there. No, man. I'm I'm and I hate. All right. I don't know if I can play. I'm going to try to play. But if I'm home, I'd love to. I'd love to be an assistant coach next year. And the chicken. All right. I think we can. All right. I think we can arrange that. No, for not, you know, on the World Series. And by the way, you assist the Frankie. She she's the best. She's she's awesome. All those good hockey players. Those were crazy. As you know, we got knocked out in the semis and in Mike Gals. They didn't even have, like, like, Pat stars. Chinpads. They just went out. Yeah. Yeah. And the team in the Arkansas come on. Like, so where do you girls played? And like, this is the first time we've played three hockey ever in our lives, let alone together. So yeah, it was it was a real special weekend. I was glad to be a pilot. So we'll do it next year, buddy. Let's do it. So this is great, man. Yeah. So much of your time. I know you're probably a little tired. Oh, no. I was I was pumped huge of huge fans of you guys. And I'm just I'm just pumped. My boys are going to love this too. So thanks for having me on. Everybody in mass is pumped for you, man. I know it's fixing all my buddies back home that you were coming on and they were all fired up. So that's great. Love it. One last note, too. Actually, well, you won the World Series and then Veronica Burton Steve Burton, the local news as well. Yeah. His daughter. She just won the WNBA title. So two two mass holes. One one titles in the last week, so I'll gotta give them a shout out. Yeah, as long as it was an Angela Reese, I'll tell you that. Angela, Angela Reese, what did I say? Angel. She makes me like, I like, Angela, no. That's good. All right. I said, Angela Reese, Angela, I think it's Angela. I like, and she though, is she the least likable athlete on the planet right now? I'd say number one, yeah, holy fuck probably up there up there. All right, uh, go dream. Thank you guys. Pinkies up. That's right. Pinkies up. If you watch the internet, invitational, you saw my pot and you saw what proceeded right after the boys giving me some pink Whitney. The ends of this were following me around and they were crushing pink Whitney. And then when the time came for me to have one, I was ready and I was lucky because nothing hits like a pink Whitney shot, even on a hot day, a cold day, it doesn't matter. So at the tailgate, at the get togethers, at Thanksgiving when you go for the walk with your cousins, bring some pink Whitney, make it a special holiday, make any day special with pink, pink Whitney, because pinkies up is the rallying cry to the group. It means it's time for pink Whitney shots. All right, guys, listen up. You know we're hockey guys, but we can appreciate college football season two and nobody does it better than rollback. Shout out the Georgia Bulldogs rollback, just dropped the game day collection and it's custom designed for every single school. Polos, quarters, hips, hoodies, all built specifically for your teams, colors, not some template with a logo slapped on. Same soft, comfortable feel you already know and hear us talk about just rep in your favorite school. If you want to look as good, reping your team as the boys hoist in the cup, look, rep in theirs, head to rowback.com, RHO BACK.com and use code chicklets for 20% off your first purchase through the end of the week. Sal, what a guy, amazing world series. Unreal guy. Thanks for lying that up, boys. That was great. Yeah, I think that was that was G or key work, great work. Um, so I love tonight being Monday night, the Hall of Fame inductions every night. Every year, I think the speeches. I think now I enjoy it almost even more because a lot of the guys, you know, we kind of played with or against and like I'm, was it last year or two years ago, Duncan Keats was awesome talking about like ride for the rink with his dad. It was just really cool and tonight will be no different. So I want to show it out. We got birds are on incredible. We sat down with him. I don't think it had been announced yet when we sat down with him. But we all knew he was going in Brian Burke. Burke, he's been an electric on our podcast before. Maybe we get him on love to talk to him again, catch up with him. Cindy Curly. So if people don't know from Massachusetts, um, incredible career in the women's world championships and at Providence. And now with and I see it around the rinks here. Like girls hockey, women's hockey is so popular and also so intense and competitive. And there's two girls on on riders team that are excellent players. Like I can't imagine when they're playing against all girls. And it's just to see what this girl was a big part of at the start years ago. And I'm sure she probably knows how much she means to what's going on now. And girls hockey, specifically in Massachusetts, put all of the United States and Canada. Incredible for her. Carrie Price, Peca Rene and Keith Big Walt, the shock. And I was reading, um, Berkey thrown out a little shot. And then did you see that? Like Berkey, yeah, yeah, I don't think it was a shot at it. It's always weirder on print. Like it comes off like, like more aggressive. But he got announced at the Leafs game and the booze rain. And he was fucking giving it the brain right there, too. Like these guys leaning into this shit as showman, true showman. And oh, man, and it's funny because I think the was it against Toronto. The year where they ended up making the run to the final against Vegas, where they were playing like shit and Walt went on Toronto media and said the quotes about the team playing soft and playing like a bunch of postseason. They need to play like men and then that's when they were on their run. So I just fitting back in Toronto, given it the wave and just getting the boobards like Brady. So all these guys are just getting the boobards and your Hall of Fame game is so fucking funny. That's that's I mean, it might be the first guy ever. Yeah. And he's wearing that as a badge of honor. Oh, I don't even think the Leafs for crap. I don't even think they booed Larry Murphy on his night in the whole game. Yeah. Yeah. It's like celebrity. That you talking about at the Bell Center, like that is a, that is respect. Yeah. And booed at your Hall of Fame induction. Amazing. But the question was asked to Berkey about like, what do you think of guys now requesting trades with these long deals? He's like, I don't like it. And then and then it was funny just because like he's like, yeah, he might have been, might have been talking to me there with with my boys. And then Berkey said, I don't, he said, I don't mind the Kutra one being a UFA. I don't like the, the Larkin and Halibok and the guys who were signed long term and, and I think he was pretty vocal about like, just, they have to stop with these no move clauses, being a part of it. I think he said there he thinks there should be, you have to give a list of five to 10 teams if you're signed long term and you request a trade. So interesting. And he's always been a, a quote machine. I think saying he'd fight Kevin Lowe in the back of a barn or something that was all time over the Dustin Penner offer sheet from Edmundton when he was on the ducks. Berseran is just, it's so cool. He's going in. I mean, that's just like the most no brainer, Hall of Famer. I think he's the only one who's got a cup of the, of all the guys getting inducted. Wow. Oh, Berkey. Berkey doesn't know. Yeah. The player. Sorry. Yeah. Wow. The Renee Kerry price. You know, I got to admit it, and I played through a decent amount of his career. I never knew Peck Arena was that good. I'm gonna say that. Really? 10 years of, you know, who, you know, who, you know, who's amazing, but like Hall of Fame, like, I was like, oh, okay, you know, like, I think if he gets in, no, there's a strong chance that Tukka Rask should get in, like I view them as the same. Never got us caught. Or he did as a backup. Sorry. Tukka. Tukka got one as a backup. But he went to game seven of the finals, like Peck Arena went to game six of the finals against the penguins. I believe they each have a Vezna and they have pretty much identical numbers of Peck. Pecka might have two Vezna's though, right? I think he's got one, doesn't he? And then a little bit more games played. Oh, he's got six 83 games played where Tukka has five sixty four. Tukka's a lot of games, two two eight goals against and a nine twenty one save percentage. Pecka Rani's two four three and a nine seventeen. So more games, but better numbers from Tukka wins. Where do you see the win three hundred sixty nine wins for Pecka? Tukka has three hundred and eight. So Bizz, that's a good call. I think Tukka's a borderline Hall of Famer and you know, he's a good guy. Obviously, you hope guys like that get in, but it's not the not the Hall of really good players. It's the Hall of Fame. So, I don't know, where do you draw the line, right? And then carry price seven hundred and twelve games played two fifty one goals against nine seventeen save percentage. So more games than both of those guys. He had a higher year where he cleaned house. I believe he got Ted Lindsey, Hart and Vezna in 2015. Carry price was also that goalie too. You know how they do the questionnaire every year, the NHL PA with, you know, if you could have one goalie, you know, in a game seven, who would it be and carry price was the guy for so long that everybody was just as a team playing against them. You were afraid to play against them because he was so good. And if he was on your team, I'm sure every single night, you had a chance to win. He was just so, I mean, all those guys obviously, but so different him and Pekka because Pekka was like kind of all over the place, a little bit like hash it, like coming out, stopping Pucks behind the net. He was really good at playing the pocket and carry price was just so technically sound and like everything just hit him in the chest. The only thing I remember about Pekka is Tip always being like, keep it away from his glove. Yeah. But he'd catch it over here. He would catch it on his blockers, he'd catch everything and then just kill momentum. You couldn't get any old zone shifts because you know, some guys like, they just fired at the net. He would gobble up these on draw. So every bit of momentum was being stopped all the time, which was, which was hard to play against. And then when I sunk scored on him with the fake slap shot, that was on him. Yeah, I was like, you were going to dump it in, but went right to the net. Yeah. Yeah. Derek Morris was good at that too. Yeah. That's where I learned it. Oh, is that where you learned it. They're out the demo. Canadian guy. Lives in America. It drives me nuts that you do that like I do it. That's why he's doing it. Yeah. Like I like Canada. I live there. I lived in Monkton. I love Monkton. I love you too. Amazing people. Like amazing people. Yeah. I kind of wish he hadn't said that. Where's your poppy. Yeah. Where's your poppy? Where's your poppy? He loves Canada so much. He had your milk and honey in Monkton for a whole season, CHL defenseman of the year. That's milk and honey from you guys. And he's not wearing a poppy. He's got citizenship for that. Didn't you? Absolutely. Yeah. How about the Kachak saying to me at the sandbagger like, why are you such a diehard oiler's fan? It fuck you too. Oh, they asked me about my red bull hat because it had number 97 on the back. Is that a big David hat? Doesn't it say Kachak on it? This one? What is Kachak? What is the 97 from that hat? I think it's a race car driver for the Red Bull team. Oh, I thought that said Kachak hosts when you wore that the other day. No. Shrack House. I'm an idiot. I guess we should have known with the flames on the brim of the hat. That's a bullshit and fail. We don't insane, but the memory remains. NASCAR Red Bull Metallica. Oh, and shadowed to Red Bull, I think they're coming on board boys. Elliot spots. Yeah, they're going to sponsor some sandbaggers and stuff. So I'm pretty fired up. Hey, Reese's in Red Bull. That's the R squared mega mega mega group that we should get. I'm getting a tram stamp. Yeah. Oh, we should get those jackets like the NASCAR guys where they can. What do you mean, get them? We already have them. Dale wears them. Oh, that's right. Yeah. We have a NASCAR driver on staff. It's a holiday and night style. Just fucking ads everywhere. Speaking of staff, um, pretty soon here. If not next week, pretty soon here. Monday episodes. Kevin Hayes is going to be joining the boys and we're going to get to spend a lot of time with him. Another guy most recently played. We had Keith. Now we have Hazy. I love Hazy. I know Keith and Hazy are like brothers, biz and Hazy become good buddies. So we're going to be able to get all over him. We're going to look and hey, he better be ready to give us some hot take. He gives some hot, hot spicy on the chat. Now will he do it? I'll be talking about him. Just like murals. I don't give a fuck. He hates Canada too. Exactly. Um, it's who would be the next guy after Hazy, who retires who we would bring on. Like soon we're going to have a round table 12 guys on the pod said. Said I'll never come over. Oh, he's always always done next year. Hey, now that we have Reese's and Red Bull, Obi, Obi will definitely come by for an interview. Yeah, that's a subway and a doctor pepper. We're done. Um, question for you guys. The current, uh, uh, the most current NHL player, who had five hat tricks, the quickest. Cut it. Go. Yeah. No. He's gonna. Oh, Brady could chuck. No, Connor. No, Leon. Leon. No. Appreciate. No. Easter was maybe Caprice off. No, Easter is a current player, current player with of any player currently in the NHL. This guy had five hat tricks faster than anyone else. Oh, it started a career. They get to stay in players in current players, not in the history of the league. Currently in the NHL, this guy had five hat tricks in less games played than anyone else currently in the NHL. Vigo Bork. No. Oh, we hyped him up a lot last pod. Let me, let me dig deep here. And his most recent one was so impressive because I think of a Carter Ver Heggie. No, of a 60-minute hockey game. He had three with 29 minutes left in the hockey game. Kyle Connor. No. Holy fuck, I'm throwing out some good names here. I know. That's a good this question. Is he West or East? West and he's a fucking machine. And he'll, he'll, he would ace, uh, he pulled a tennis, he'd put a tennis ball by your ear in two seconds. Oh, cool. Logan, cool. Holy. How impressive is that? And it's all by your e. Okay. So he got one in Pittsburgh and then he got one a few games later. Got one in Montreal with 11 minutes to go in the second period. He had it. And then Caulfield score an overtime again. How many, how many overtime goals does Caulfield have at this point? Who would you rather have an overtime Jack Hughes or Caulfield? I, I mean, who's Mike Hughes might, Hughes might get more assists like overall points. He was just carrying the puck the whole time too. I know. I know. I know. Wow. I mean, this, this kid's special man. He's Pittsburgh boys. I don't know what's in the water down there, but they're starting to breathe him. Look, oh, for crew's Armstrong. Did you see Troch and, uh, who is the other, Troch was dressed as Paul skeens and it might have been cool. He has livy done for Halloween. He was hilarious. That's funny. Troch with the, with the pirate hat on and his mustache. It legit looked like him. Caulfield has 15 overtime winners. Holy shit. All on Saturday nights to, you know, how fun it is to get an overtime. I, I actually don't. I got one overtime goal in my career and it was like an atom. Oh, I was, I was like, thinking. I'm like, when the fuck was this guy? When he was on the card, if it was to win, it was to win a single A tournament. Really? I got one against you and Edmonton wet, member. I was in the newspaper the next day. I was so fired up. I was on the ice for one and the Derek Morris try punching my skull off my body. I took Theo Peckum wide. Like McDavid takes the look home wide. I mean, that's not hard. He had a barrel on us. Speaking of Theo, shout out my brother Colin. Yeah. His son was born two days ago. Theodore Daniel Whitney. He goes by Theo, one real, another really cool to the mix. So how, how many boys in the family now? As far as my brother Sean has two boys. I have three boys and Colin has a daughter and a son. Yet six boys in the mix. Yeah, six boys. One good protection. Good protection. Our own security unit. Secret service. So shadow Colin and Claire, amazing. And G says congrats to the happy couple Paul and Diane, who were married at the Greensboro Gargoyles game on Saturday night, officiated by Casey, who is the play by play guy. The Gargoyles lost the game. I'll comment. And congrats to Rand Peck. Peck Noel, he's been on the show before 700th win at Quinnipiac all at Quinnipiac. He got there when I think they were D3 and now they're a perennial contender Quinnipiac is Quinnipiac's good dude. Yeah, they're like fourth in the country right now. Chiklet you Quinnipiac coming out in like two weeks too. Right. And shout out G's in Minnesota, Duluth right now filming a Chiklet you, uh, with the pressure of Wi-Fi. Hold on. The Minnesota Duluth. Snow plows. The Bulldogs. Come on. Go dogs. Go dogs. We're doing it with the plant brothers to the three plant brothers. So it's, uh, it's going to be awesome. Max, you're going to put up beat beat on Ole Miss Saturday night. Oh, I saw a less you, man. This Lane Kiffin guy. What a joke. It's so hilarious. How about the walk-in though? Shack. Yeah, but what is Kevin Kostner? Kevin Kostner was one of the people. It was one of those. Yeah. Yeah. Kevin Kostner was there. Look out. Look out. Look out for G. He's got a Chiklet's Cup coming out after the invitational. And then obviously he just banked this one in Minnesota. You said it's a Piac or Chiklet's you. What did I call it? Chiklet's Cup. Yeah. So in two weeks, we got a Chiklet you coming out, Ethan Wittenback, Cornet Piac Bobcats. We stayed 24 night. We stayed 24 hours in the facility. We slept there. Uh, it's really cool too. Like Rand Peckle, no, Rand Peckle is known for his like neutral zone trap the way he does. So we did like a film breakdown of like how he coaches it to incoming freshman. So that was really cool. They just redid their lounge in locker room. And then yeah, now we're here at Minnesota Duluth film with them, which is really cool. You know, we got to skate with some special hockey players yesterday. And you know, they just have like a huge, huge impact on the Duluth community. It's crazy. Like the team revolves around the Bulldog. So he's like, come on kids. Let's do the neutral zone trap video. It's like, uh, I got biology class. I'd rather go to. Oh, and and we did the golf match. Me and Rand played the golf match. So that'll be in the Quinnipiac video. He kicked my ass, but none the less. Another guy that kicked your ass, that nobody talks more shit and golf and loses. I know he's calling me. Oh, no, no, no, no, no shit. Hank talks more shit to me and loses more. Yeah, but he's been golfing for. There. Hey, Biz, what did you think of, uh, quickly, uh, the Wilson hit on, um, valent was a valimus and on Florida? Yeah, I mean, like, fuck, man, he plays on the edge. Like, I mean, like, I know, but I saw, I saw, uh, who's on hockey and Canada that said, um, it should have been a suspension. Yes, because I know that's thick. Yeah. I mean, if, yeah, that's, that's what he thinks. That's fine. I mean, fucking suspend the guy for a game. Give him a night off. Who gives you 34 games in the season. Fuck it. If you watched the video, the valent miss looked at him and then turned his back. So I think he kind of put him, obviously, get ahead. Yeah. I don't, like, those are the ones like, I don't know what it was. Probably like four or five years ago that the internet would blow up over and I, I used to go on and defend and argue about these things. I don't give a fine. Fuck. If these people want to say it's a suspension, let them go talk into the abyss. I'm just going to say play on, play on, and if you look at, if you look at Tom Wilson coming full tilt and you turn around as opposed to like putting your stick up in the air to defend your life, or maybe you deserve for him to not be suspended. And I'm boys with Willie. I love Willie. He's a handsome bastard. I would never talk shit about him. And he's a scary human being. And I don't want to get stuffed in a lock or either. One thing I did want to mention is I saw this rule across my screen. I equipment manager, assistant equipment manager, Jason McGrath was honored with a silver stick with the New York Islanders 2000 games. We talked about the editors of the invitational and the live event leases and the Taylor rays and the Connor Prestons of the world. The trainers in the hockey world. There's nobody who works harder and gets recognized less. So I'm glad that they did that for 2000 games and Shout out to all the amazing ones that we had like you know obviously the back roots Tony Silva Stan Wilson all those all those guys and In Arizona that we got to play with a Muirzy who I was with and that will help when I call their cup in an Ontario But there's so many of them all the amazing trainers along the way even the ones who told me I couldn't wear number 16 or wear number 67 Because it's mom Love you guys everyone. We will be back Friday game notes Wednesday Check out the internet if you have a check out game notes and Minnesota fans. Don't let up on Murr Don't let up on them. I think we need to show it. Oh, oh, no, I'm glad you brought up Murr No, I'm glad you brought up Murr congrats to Murr. He did his first few TV gigs. I know he crushed it too Crush it with the Pittsburgh Penguins everybody is getting in the mix now Yeah, we got we got we got Murr doing that. He was doing some great breakdowns talking about the mixer So congrats to him and army on the broadcast. He did the the Vegas. Was it Vegas? Pittsburgh was that the latest one or was it L.A.? No, it was Vegas. What's that center those Vegas and I think Vegas worked them correct Vegas worked them, but at least they had murls on the broadcast and I know why murls work so much and travel so much now Because I was in Troy this weekend. Not a lovely place. Oh, the toilet the toilet. Hey, you know what though? It's got character. Oh, it's got character. It's got a 99 there. It's got good people It's close to Saratoga. I used to visit Merren Troy every single summer be at the rock It's it you know them who the murr is when you get to Troy Yeah, you see how this man was raised shooting pox driving nine hours to go play hockey the Murr man I love him. I get on a Minnesota Get on a Minnesota. All right, everyone. Thank you so much to Sal Thank you so much to everyone who listened and I love you all even you people who hate me I still love you. I seriously am all love besides that girl Caroline. I really play a girl my wife See you guys Won't happen Again I better have it worth breaking but it's taking time. I don't know. Don't let it. It's going to happen It's going to happen again. You