Spittin' Chiclets Episode 663: Featuring Patrice Bergeron

Hey, spittin' chicklets listas, you could find every episode on Apple Podcasts in Spotify. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Still a blue coffee is more than just great coffee. It's coffee with a purpose. Introducing We Brew to Rescue, a nationwide campaign using proceeds from our new ready-to-drink cans to help fund 1,000 pet adoptions this year. Every can, you crack open, helps a real pet find a real home. Simple as that, made with 100% Colombian coffee each 11 ounce can to deliver smooth, drinkable energy with a boost of protein, available in espresso cafe mocha and espresso sweet cream. Built for mornings, long days, and everything in between. Drinks tell a blue, fuel your day, and help save a pet's life. You can follow our progress in real time throughout the campaign by watching the adoption tracker on our site. Grab yours now at stowbluecoffee.com, Amazon, and select Retailers Nationwide. Trust no one and accuse everyone in who's the bad guy, the official bar soul sports social deduction game from the brilliant mind of Nick Teraney, and what's quickly becoming the most popular new party game around. Players are secretly assigned unique roles with the good guys trying to expose the bad guys and the bad guys doing everything they can to stay hidden. Each game unfolds under alternating day and night phases, with roles like the cool chick, the shy guy, the gambler, El Presidente, the mentalist, the planner, the funny guy, and more. Every round is unpredictable, chaotic, and ridiculously fun. Who's the bad guy? Is great for parties, pre-games, family gatherings, or groups who just love deception-based games. Game night will never be the same. Shop now on walmart.com. me and Ryan have been officially welcomed to the jungle that is basketball sports. I brought it toward the coyotes and I asked him if it was okay if I joined a strict check-up podcast full-time. No, a little bit, no. Ryan Whitney's got a pink Whitney out there now. He can handle the song man. It's a full-time member. Marley just got this. It's from Chris Bate. Whoa, we're buzzing right now. What is up folks? Welcome back to Spitt and Chico. It's episode 663. We're getting up there. Patrice Bergeron joined us back. I heard a moment. Boston for the cup fans. This is a great interview. I think everyone's going to enjoy it. Boston? Yeah, the bees. The bees. Yeah, big part of their their history there. So Patrice Bergeron's coming on. Pink Whitney. You got to shout out the pinkies up. Pinkies up from Macklin Celebrini. We're going to get into that monster deal and pinkies up from what he did to me on the golf course. Get into that in a second. But either way, it's pinkies up. So I'm not going to get upset and rattled when I'm talking pink Whitney. Shout out everyone out there who's buying some bees helping them negotiate. Yeah, I was a big part of it. Yeah. It wasn't even his agent. It was me. I didn't tell you that grads. Yeah, I don't know though. I don't he didn't show me much. What's the word? He didn't show much gratitude towards me though on the course. I'll say that. But I do have one big announcement here before before we get going. Chicklips cup is locked and loaded now. We're back in Boston. The registration goes on sale for anyone who wants to be a part of this Wednesday at New Eastern. Go to barstool sports.com Harpoon Brewery again. Place was phenomenal. The last time we went perfect setup. So we're going to do that again. Wednesday, August 5th, 12 Eastern. That's noon Eastern barstool sports.com. We got noble Reese's pink Whitney coming in Harpoon Brewery. Thursday will be the welcome party in the registration. Friday is the event day. One pink Whitney party pinkies up that night. Saturday, the day two of the event closing ceremony, 5 p.m. at Harpoon Brewery, where we'll be on the Mike Bus. We try to we try to give our flowers to all the winning teams. Unfortunately, every year you're coming off. You're coming off of a loss and then like sitting up there like wounded bleeding like, oh, we lost again. Here's your trophy. My car race calves are already shins. That was amazing. Already came back last year. He fell over the barrier. We have to ask him about that. I don't know if we've ever brought that up to him and then was up there just leaking blood all over the stage. I was like, whoa, welcome back. All right. Here we go. But I don't know what you guys are up to. We're getting ready. Got a big week here. I have an announcement. I think I think it's going to be the big deal selects last dance. It's going to be our last dance winner lose. You're done. I think it's going to be the last dance. You say that every year. You mother fucker. Every year. You fucking say this. We just interviewed Mike Keane. He ends up making a joke. This guy played 1100 games in the NHL and then played five years in the NHL to end his career. He wasn't full ground the outside either. He was grinding in your face in front of the net those five years in the minus. That was a great interview. That'll be coming out in a couple of weeks. Biz, how is his vacation started with the parents? Yeah. Yeah. It started yesterday the first full day and it was a tough one, boys. If you've watched the BC peaking season, we go to a place called we peaking. We peaking. The next one's coming out. I think early September. That's going to be the Lake Havasu one. But we went to this place called Cooms where they have this like outdoor. They got all the beautiful fruits and vegetables are locally grown. You can go into the one of the supermarkets. It's got like every kind of cheese and all these unreal homemade pepperoni sticks, beef jerky, pastries, like this apple strudel. I can't even show you. Look at this apple strudel. Look at that. Apple strudels are phenomenal. I've seen so of I not even trying to be a dick. You can't see much of the apple. There's too much crust in the top of that thing. Oh, fuck you guys. This vacation doomed. Yeah. That looks store bought, but that's what was bought. Okay, so we go in there. We had a great a great lunch. They went on a little bit of a tour beforehand. I'd already been on this tour with Donnie to see all these old trees. Trees that go up to about 800 years old. So they actually had a tour guide. So he was driving them around before that. So I met them at Coombs, okay? Because I got my sister, her kids, my dad, so there's six of them. We finished off at this place. It's got the goats on the roof. Everyone I said the goat, yeah, that place. So I'm parked probably 15 minutes down the road, 15 minute walk, because it's packed, you know, it's like the the high season here. So I got to walk that way. So I give them a kiss to say, okay, I'll see you at the hotel. Okay, great, great, great, great afternoon. So I walk towards my car. I stop at this little antique shop just to take a few peaks inside. And then as I get to my car, I get a text from my sister and she goes, we're on our way to the like whatever, the ICU. We're going to mom fell down and she's got to get stitches. So buddy, buddy, the minute I must have said by them, they're walking up to go meet where their ride was picking them up. And they got these speed bumps, but the speed bumps aren't colored yellow. They're the same color, color gravel is the road. You got to you got to make sure people can see that that's a city. You got to make sure you could see that can be a nice little lawsuit for you. There's a law in the United. She slipped on a strutal. So she fucking toe picks on the speed bump, buddy, goes down, even the hands can stop her, boom, right on the corner of her eye, we're off to the ICU unit. Eight zips in the corner right here. Eight zips for you, holy buddy. I'll tell you what though, not yet, not yet, but she was a trooper, she was cracking jokes, chirping herself, even when we were signing in with the with the nurse and stuff like that. So a couple clicks for you, holy first day of a commission, breaking in the new feed. Yeah, bring that shit that hits cock on guys firing pucks at her on the ice, once you got out there, buddy, just eat shit in front of everybody. There's probably a hundred people there just like having a chuckle at yoli's expense. No, no, no, you see somebody fall like that. You're going to be a real piece of scum to be laughing at that. There has to go to Canada, they're all running to help her little friendly. Yeah, I thought you were going to say one of the goats from the roof fell off an adder. That's tough. That would have been cam. That would have been better. Yeah, then we really would have got some money out of this. Maybe I could have got a 30 footage of that. I could have it sold an ad on that video. Did you, did you have to drive her? Did you have to drive back up and pick them up to take them to the hospital? No, by the time I got the text and I was, by the way, their phone service was absolutely brutal at this place. So I got the text. So she just sent me where they went and I drove down the road. It was like 10 minutes away and they were already there kind of checking in. So spent, you know, two, two and a half hours there waiting for her to get stitched up or wherever it was. And then on, on she went, but hey, man, trooper, she was up today buzzing around all, all good to go. So okay, no con. He always a tough customer, man. Yeah, that's where you get it from. Yeah, you always a tough coach. You had Irish traveler by the fucking goats at the, at Coombs. So that was the start to our vacation. But after this, I'm going to mini putt and I'm, we're going to, I'm going to go play against my sister. kids and her high. So no mercy on these kids. Zero mercy body. I told them yesterday at lunch. I said, you know, I'm bring them out on putter, right? Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to, I'm going to dust you guys. And they're like, oh, honey, what's the handicap? I'm like, you ain't getting nothing over there. If there's one thing you can do in the game of golf, too, it's hot. That's it. Everyone saw on the most recent bagger with the Bob does sports boys, the collared boys taking them for a walk. You, you were reading the greens. We decided you are our guy putting our guy. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. How old are her kids? 10. Yeah. 10 years old. Yeah. That's old enough to like, yeah, like, take them to the woodshed. Oh, yeah. Well, they're, they're twins, right? But one boy, one girl. So they're, they're probably going to be working together. They're always attached at the head. This is last year was the first year they didn't do, they're like, they're great together. They split them the classes. So these two work very well together. Okay. I'll, yeah, I'll be, I'll be, I'll be ready to go. But that's it, boys. Just getting a little bit of R&R here on the island. And what about you guys? What do you got going? I saw the order. Same, same. What do you think? Loved it. I was in, I was not had, did not have the best set up. I was at the, you know, have you been in the movie theater here in Nantucket? No, it's, is it small? No, it's a great movie theater. But then there's like a separate one that's just basically like a screen that comes down and then just regular chairs. And that's where we were at for the Odyssey. So they didn't get the big theater. The Odyssey was on the big theater. Not sure why they were playing a young Washington instead of the Odyssey and that one. But I thought the movie made me exactly. I thought the movie was insane. I know we talked a little bit before about how much Aves is actually in it. That was incredible. Hammer's teeth. You see him three times. He's like a war in the movie. Is it weird? Is he under his normal teeth? Or did they kind of darken them up? Because it'd be weird if a guy had such a nice teeth at that. And he said that he told hundreds. Didn't he tell us that the producer told him he to never show his teeth? Didn't he say that to us? He wasn't showing his teeth that much because you're right. You don't notice the big Steve Harvey pearly whites, you know, in the middle of like trying to get home or on the Odyssey. Now my I thought the movie was excellent. Loved it. I want to see it again because I didn't see it in iMacs. My theater experience though. It was only all time worse theater experience. Not the not the movie part but going there and getting home. I couldn't find tickets to this movie every time I looked there was no tickets. And then I looked and I see, oh, Foxboro movie theater in Patriot place, which is right around Gillette Stadium with the Patriots, but they got restaurants. Obviously movie theater. I was like, oh, there's a bunch of tickets tonight. I'm like, this is perfect. So I bought the 730 tickets. Then I found out the babysitter could come at five. So then I saw there was a 630 film. There's tons of tickets for that one too. I'm like, this is this is my lucky day. I'll go to the earlier one. The movie's three hours long. I won't get home at 1115 1130. You know, I'll be home earlier. Well, we get in the car to leave. It's usually 25 minute ride. It says an hour and 15 minutes. I'm like, what the fuck? I look it up. I didn't check. Gillette had monster jam for the monster trucks. Oh, no. So I'm like, oh, no, I can't do this. Like sitting in that ride on root one to get to when there's anything going on at Gillette. This is just horror film stuff. I know I don't even go to Patriots games because of it. So then we turn around and I forget it. We're looking at all these other theaters. Of course, there's no tickets. There was tickets because there was a monster jam. By the way, so I'll hold on. So then I'm like, well, what else are we going to do? Let's go. I got tickets to the 732. She's like, you had tickets to both. I'm like, yeah, well, first, what I'm explaining that turn out just sat in the traffic. Now at one point, I'm like, what are we doing? Like, it took an hour and 15 minutes. It was, we barely made the 730. We're sprint sprinting in there basically. And that's my problem with the theater. When I tell you sprinting into this theater is nearly impossible. What they've done is, well, by the way, I get out of the car. I get out of the car. And I hear the announcer over the loudspeaker in Gillette. Like now racing so and so and so and so. So Meg Lodon can't race. He's in the shop or something. Meg Lodon's not at the booze I heard from the crowd. It was like, because Meg Lodon's one of the kids favorites. It's the monster. I think the shark looking one. So I'm like, Oh, fuck man. Those kids are rattled in there. But we get into the theater. And if you thought these kids were rattled up to no Meg Lodon, I'm standing in line to get, this is like, it's a newer theater. It was just redone. But it's, it's back to like going to the theater in the 80s. There's no, there's not, you know, they have this hero accident. All the theaters now, right? Like you order food at your seat, stuff like that. And I don't know if you've been to a theater like that. But this is not one of those. You just go up there. They got popcorn, soda, whatever. I'm waiting for a while because we're kind of late to the movie. I get out. Now I go to the guide who gets your ticket, right? It's on my phone. I'm holding like 20 different things. I got I got popcorn. I got candy. I got you know, I'm loaded up long film. I'm like, do what theater is it in? Here's my ticket, right? Like he's like, no, no, no, no, I can't tell you what theater it's in. You got it, you got to find out what theater it's in from the guy that just sold you all the popcorn. I said, no, no, I'm like, no, I'm like, dude, I just wait. I was going, no, no, no, no, what are you talking about? And he's like, I know, it's crazy. And I was, I was, I looked back and I said, are they going to let me in front? He's like, no, man, you got to wait in the line. I buddy, I was, I was like, where's the man? It's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. And all of a sudden, this guy's walking towards me with like a bow town. Real nice guy. I'm like, I can't wait in that line again, man. You got to tell me what theater this is. He's like, uh, I'm like, just go look at the theater. Tell me what that gives a flaw. Hey, that's, have you ever? I missed the very beginning of the movie. So I still have to go back. I couldn't believe that you had to get. And then why they don't tell you when you're, I got large popcorn. I'm like, you think the guy'd say, Hey, I got to scan your ticket to see what theater you're in. So the whole idea, but then the movie starts. And it was incredible. I mean, I'm telling you, I love this movie. I want to talk to Aray about it. I'm not going to give spoilers. Every definitely spoiled a part of it. Like I was like, Oh, but then not really Keith because of what happened after either, either way. Then I got out. I didn't, there was traffic leaving. There was traffic leaving. I then sat in the same traffic leaving the monster jam. So I got buried on this night. I get what you're going to ask cans. You're going to say, why did if you ask someone, hey, are you going to see Odyssey and just say, where are you going? Where are you heading to? Because then they had to scan the ticket. They wouldn't scan the ticket till you knew what I'm telling you, buddy. This was one. It was crazier than some of the, some of the one-eyed monsters in the Odyssey was just trying to get your ticket punched and be told what theater to go in. So kind of a ridiculous experience for the movies. But like I said, the movie was great. And then that was actually after that day I played with Celebrini. So maybe I was already on edge. And this is all on me. And this isn't that crazy of a story. Kevin Hayes. He set up golf with me and him. We're going to play Will Smith and Celebrini. All right. Awesome. Has he had to back out last minute? I'm with folds. I'm like, you want to go play. He's like, get out of here in the more. Yeah. Full side. All right. We waxed these two up and down this golf course for four hours, just a complete shit kicking. We get to the 18th hole. Now I've been told by my accountant to never mention financial figures on what we're playing for golf. So I'm going to take his advice. But we're playing for a good amount of money. They go double or nothing on 18. Okay. We win that. Now I'm laughing. Now old sandwich has a 19th hole. Okay. It's got one little extra green. And when you walk off the 18th hole, there's a shot from 100 yards or 140 yards. Kind of like a little gambling hole, a buy hole for say they double or nothing again. We win again. I'm laughing. I'm like, oh my god. I'm like, this guy's new contract 18.80 year. I mean, what the hell is he going to do? He's playing for free in two years. Yeah. For sure. So they want to double or nothing one more time because you can go up from a different angle and hit an 130 yard shot. So the same green, but a totally different like place where you're hitting down from. They double or nothing again. And I hit it to about 15 feet. A very good shot. And I'm humping air on me. I like give the sharks my address. Like I'm like, this is false. This is unbelievable. Celebrini goes after me and hits it to about 12 feet. And I was like, oh, no. I'm like, fuck, I got to make this pot because like this kid seems like one of those guys, you know. And he was horrible. He's going to be good at golf. Like he kind of just started playing. He's got a nice swing, but he must have shot 98. He was horrible. But he hit this shot. And I'm like, oh, no, and it's me and like my, my past as an athlete. And if I don't make it, then it's him and who he is. Sure, shit. I miss. And these guys read this putt for I'm going to say 10 minutes. I have a video false video. The entire thing will Smith lining up the ball. Then he's going back. Celebrini standing over. He's like, move your hands to inches to the right. They're just adjusting like a video game. And what happens? He nailed it. He cans it. Of course he can. Of course he can. And at this point, the groups behind us, we're now coming up there and they're watching because I think two the kids played with Will Smith at BC. They happened to be out there. And it was like, I just knew it. I knew it walking down. I said, if I don't make this part. And even if I do make it, he's making it. You know, some guys have that, that it factor. So that was it. And then I couldn't get into the goddamn movie theater until I got my, the general manager to help me out with Tom, the theory was. But overall, great Friday. A great, I was going to say, what a great Friday for those two guys. And they probably headed into the weekend. They went right down to Chatham. And then they were going to Nantucket the next day. And I saw them about to get abused. But did you see them in Nantucket on Nantucket? First thing Celebrini says to me. Witt tell you about my putt. Shut the, I swear to God, I go, I think I heard about it two minutes after, dude. Oh, yeah. He left out the fact that he shot a 98. But he was telling me all about that putt that he buried in my face. Fulls was like, oh my God, I could do an addition on the house. And it was just, it was, it was a, it was a ballsy move. It was a big time, fought by a big time player. And I guess with that kind of lead just into, when that contract news broke, I was like, wow. I was more amazed at just five years. I'm like, so this kid's going to be a UFA with $100 million in the bank when he's 25 years old. Yeah. 26 maybe, maybe 25, not exactly sure. Awesome for the sharks, awesome for him. I don't know if it was a real quote or tweet I saw that said, Mike Rears, like, I would have given him whatever he asked for. I think, I think the full, the full 20% he said. Yeah. Okay, so that wasn't fake. He's 20.8 or something that, yeah, I was. And then all of it well deserved. Well, yeah, I mean, this guy's a unicorn voice. I witnessed it, a unicorn, yeah. And he's telling me his younger brother. He's like, my younger brother is disgusting. I think he's 14. So I think there's another one of these things coming. If he does come, they have to set it up where he gets the play, they play in the same team. Yeah, if he's this good, you're saying in four or five years. You know, but he'd have no, he'd have no control where he gets drafted. Four or five years, he'll, five years of celebration will be a free agent and he can just go to whatever team drafts him. But what did you think when you saw the number? I think that, I don't, I would say thank you, Leo Carlson, offer sheet, because that kind of, I guess, set, set sort of the around where he was going to get. But I don't really think it mattered. I think that San Jose is one of those markets where it's like, okay, we need to keep a guy like this. You know, there's other, obviously other markets where he could thrive from a, like a marketing standpoint and marketing dollars. But he's had great success there. He broke the all-time record for most points in the season last year and a second year in the NHL. And that's, I mean, he's Sydney Crosby 2.0. He's the, he's the perfect player. He does his own dirty work. You see these clips of these shifts where he's out there just busting his ass for a minute straight, stripping guys, getting in on the four-check, backtracking. And, and then he could get it done offensively and pretty much do whatever he wants with the puck. And, and to also do it with, listen, like, am I, I'm not trying to take anything away from Sid, but in, in Sid's like second and third year, they, you know, they were bringing in some, some veterans to surround them with. This last season their, their team was, was not very good. If you look at their team on paper, you'd be like, ooh, it's a little bit underwhelming. And the fact that he did that with having all that pressure and, and also doing it in an Olympic year where he went to the Olympics and they pretty much rolled that line out there with him on it every other shift when they needed a goal. So you're talking about the best Canadian players in the world, and he's the guy that you're looking to at that age. He's a freak, guys, and I hope DeLie gets about 10 to 15 more of them because it'll just raise the bar for everybody else and money well-earned. But like you said, five years, that would kind of suck to have to fork over that much, don't only get the five years, but he had him by the balls and he's got all the control and, and shout out to Pat Personne and, and, and his team for knowing all that. But more importantly, him for putting in the work and being the freak, freak in nature that he is. Yeah, I don't think there's, when I saw the number two is just like, yeah, whatever the number was going to be, it wouldn't have rattled me just because what he brings to your team, what guys will want to do to go play there with him. I forget who we were talking to. Might have been talking to whoever, but he was saying that all the guys on the Olympic team like, I want to play with Celebrini, I want to play with Celebrini. So like he's already got that it factor at such a young age. And I mean, wait, you spent four or five hours with him. Like he just seems like such a level headed kid where it's like, it's not going to get to his head, him signing this big deal. He's still going to be trained as ass off, working hard every shift. So I think it's well earned, well deserved and, you know, good for both sides. I would imagine obviously if you're a San Jose fan, you'd like to see him for eight years. But ey, listen, you build around him. You get five unreal years out of him and, you know, then maybe he does want to stay and they're building something and they're winning cups in the next few years. And you, and you say like, ideally, yeah, you'd rather give, get him on more years if you're, if you're my career. But you're also like not pissing him off. You're not starting any sort of like, Oh, like why, why won't they kind of give me this? And you're just like, Hey, we love you. We want you to be here. If this is what you want, and this is what it takes right now. Here you go. And then there's no bad blood. You know, you've look at kind of like, look at what we've seen with different teams and pissing guys off and kind of how it goes. So I'm excited. He is really like a very genuine person. You would never know it talking to him friendly to everyone. Just seems to kind of know he's got the world by the balls right now, but not be cocky about it at all. So and, and a big time potter. This also puts a little pressure on the sharks where it's like, you've got your five years. Let's get moving here for making some moves. They did do some stuff in the off season. Now, now with knowing he's making 18.8, are you a little bit more, like the money they threw it that true bud. And now they got darn out. Like, does that worry you a little bit? I don't know where I didn't even think they had to do it. Like, they just needed to bring in some veteran defenseman. How many more years those guys have for each? I mean, they have a lot of prospects. He was telling me like, they're draft this summer. We talked about that right after the draft. All the guys they've drafted for Misa. Like, he's pretty fired up about what it's looking like there and how quick they think they can get it going. And I was he talked to Stenberg. I didn't ask him that. That's a great question. I was a football fan. Fools are just like, what are we just in our game? Like, I don't even remember you. He was just, he was just somebody I was competing against out there, but I wasn't thinking of. Man in the arena. Yeah, man in the arena type shit. You know what I'm saying? Let's get the poem again. Calling graph sign too. Now I wonder what Smith gets. I didn't bring that up either. Did you ask him about anything? Maybe he's doing different training wise. Did you ask him about his old man? Did you guys get into any type of like offseason to hockey talk? Not real. I was asking him. They were Smith. We just out in van. And I was like, oh, how was that? They just said they were. They were up at six training skating. Then they'd go for like a track workout. Skate again, five straight days. They said it was, they were legit grinding and then they were doing a camp and Boston this past week. I think they got Adam Nichols was running it for local pros around here. So it seems like these guys are all dialed in. It seems like they're on the ice constantly. We've had this discussion a lot. That's just, that's how a lot of guys are doing it now. And looking back, I've said this instead of bagging myself on the bike or bagging myself on sprints, I think I would have just skated way more. But my cardio always be on the ice like why mess around with other cardio if you can just do it on the ice constantly and then you never have as many guys around though. I know, but I get an actual good skate. I know, but I think even if it was you and I, we could have gone out there and bagged ourselves with like drills and different types of things where, all right, we don't have to do. I don't know. Maybe that's what I'll do. Are guys doing it? I just didn't invite you. I don't need that, I don't need that shit, man. Thanks a lot. I don't need that guy on the ice. The sharks, they also sign graph who I like, he's, he's look good when I've seen it. And it's only 4.25, three year, yeah, three year extension, three year contract, 4.25 a year. So played over 60 minutes a year. And he had, according to G's outline, extended looks on a line with celebrating. So. Some of the guys like McKinnon and dry cydle are regretting signing eight year deals. You can't really, the eight years, like the money, the, just because of how much money they would get now. Those guys are, those, those guys are playing through their prime on, fuck, man, you got, you got him making what, six point eight million dollars more than dry cydle. He made 14, yeah, he made 14, McGave, it's a 12 and a half, but he's making, when McKinnon signed, I don't think it's 12.6, yeah, but we didn't know what the cap was going to turn into or any like, Leon was recent enough where, yeah, he probably, I don't know though. Maybe he's just like, dude, eight years at 14, yeah, how do you say no to them? I'm good. Yes. Thank you. Thank you. He's like, no, thanks. No, thanks. I don't think so. I'm all set there. Yeah. It's because busy. You're the one who always says, I mean, you were saying it even before all these short contracts, like if you were a superstar. you would just sign like four-year deals. - I think it was Judd who was saying that. - Oh, okay. - And that's where I was getting it. - Yeah. - You weren't digging? - No, no digging here. - I saw a video of Matthew's rip and pox. I think he was in Switzerland. - Switzerland without Joe Thornton. - He had on some like designer sweatpants. I think he's just snapping pox on some goal. Unless those weren't designer, and I have no clue what I'm talking about, but they didn't look like normal sweatpants you throw on to go out of the ice. - He's always got the expensive stuff going. - They're like bell bottoms. - Yeah, I can't keep up with all these brands anymore. Like what's cool with the kids are wearing, but maybe they got chrome-harse sweatpants now. - Maybe. - Couple of two, three G's just for some fresh cotton. - But I've got much else, boys. I mean, that's pretty much the only news. We finally reached the time of summer where things are calm and down, and it's almost time for training camp. - Yeah, Novak signed in Pittsburgh, 4.65 million per season. Got that 42 points at 82 games last year. Oh, Billy G was apparently in Michigan. - Took the bird. - He took the bird. - Took the bird. - Yeah, I heard you took the bird over. - I would love, how much would you love to be a fly in the wall? Billy G and Quinn Hughes, maybe having a couple. - Well, Quinn missed the meeting. He was at a Morgan Wall and concert. - That's true. - Yeah, he didn't want to walk out. So I don't think that's going to blow well for Minnesota wild fans moving forward. He's probably on the move. But, yeah, I mean, what do you tell him? You tell him, hey, we're fucking blank check just like Capri's off. - I think you tell him how many years will you stay here? And what do you want? - Yeah. - And if it's true that the rumors you hear of him just signing a deal that will make him and Jack a UFA at the same time, I think that would be a three year deal. - All right. And yeah, just say, hey, we'll give you 18 times three. - What? - You would have, what I'm saying is like, okay, so now you got, you got that two guys making 17 and 18 million. Like how, like, it goes back to what Merl said. - They're that good. I mean, he's not going to take less than Capri's off. He's better than him. And you want him there and you need him there and if he'll do three years, okay, we'll look at what they traded for him. He's kind of, he kind of has him like, hey, give me this. I guess the owner has decided he's not going to say blank check. That one he might regret a little, but maybe not, maybe he's like, I don't care. - Let's go over, I'd be interested to see what if, like, from a contending standpoint, because if he re-signs there, I think that you would, and even for next year, going in next year, would you consider Minnesota still in the contender category? - Yeah, they're forward lineup though. You've seen like tweets of like, I don't know, is this a Stanley Cup champion forward group, but I still would consider them contenders, no doubt. - So in two years, let's say Quinn stays put and he does sign for 18 million, taking the five top paid players, what exactly, what they would make of the cap. Like, and when it kicks in, I mean, you got boldly obviously as one of those guys, right? You have those two guys. - Yeah, he's a nice deal. He's a nice deal. Like, how many teams who have won a cop have their top five guys making over 50% of the team's cap? Is the question I have for you guys? - Okay, that's one that I couldn't even begin. I got a better chance to get into that movie theater without a ticket than I could answer that question. But. - 'Cause it goes back to the same thing that happened with the core four in Toronto. It's just like, the top five guys are all making too much money and they kind of sign at the, like the, it was a perfect storm, right? Because COVID hit and then it was all of a sudden a flat cap. Clearly they're aware of where it's going to be going in the next five years. But these guys, these guys are signing their new deals, projected on where it's going. So Caprice of 17. You got, you got Quinn at 18, let's say. Then you got Boldy at what? The good news is you got, you got Boldy at seven. - He's seven. - Boldy at seven. - In favor of seven money too. - He's making like eight, eight, five. You also have this year at seven point eight, five. - So like, correct. - You're getting that, the this year, - So just be a two-year extension. - Well, I actually don't know when Jack's ends. I think for them to end up. - I think Jack had five years left on his deal. - I would think it'd be four, 'cause I thought people said, if he signed a three-year extension, that they would match up, which would be four more seasons. I don't know. Possibly slamming his computer right now. - Jack Hughes contract ends in 29.30 at the end of the 30 season. - So this is, let's do some crazy about 26. - Four more years. - 27.29, 29.30. - Okay. Now, that takes to what age? How old is Quinn right now? 26? - Let me grab my apple strutal. - We're asking, oh, you guys figure this out. - The speed bumps are brutal. - 28.26. - Yes, so he's 26. - That's the power food to win a pot pot challenge. Against his 10-year-old twin niece and nephew. - Well, this one's there, as I'm stealing it, just to get onto their skin. - Here comes Pasha. They don't have a one-sea, and they're forwards besides Corillin Boldier paper fin. Good luck being in Colorado and Dallas back to back every year with that. - Well, he didn't even put Edmonton in there for you went. - Well, he's talking division. He's talking central division there, and he's just kind of waiting for the day that to get the news that Quinn is on the New Jersey Devil's. That would be the worst day for me doing this pot challenge. - That's never gonna happen. - If there was news that he was traded or signed with the New Jersey Devils, I don't know if I could handle that guy. - The only person left in the group chat would be Pasha. - Just everybody's leaving. - Please do himself. - Please. - He's sending like box scores to himself. Yeah. - All right, let's answer with this. Does Quinn Hughes resign in Minnesota? - Yes. - Yeah. - Do you think he signs a short term extension? - I think what Witt said, where it lines up exactly what Jack, so that'd be a three year extension. - Three year extension. - Yeah, I think he does. - And I also feel like, you know, Billy G's, he's got the bird out to see him. It would make sense to kind of ideally have that done before the season starts. - Yeah, for sure. - Because as the season starts, the team somehow maybe doesn't play well. All of a sudden it's like, whoa, like is this guy gonna be dealt to somebody else for the second year in a row? You know, I think it's just a headache that could be there that if they get him signed, it's just not existing. You know, headaches. - Does Dylan Larkin make them a contender? - He makes them better. - Oh yeah. - And they're good already. Oh yeah, I would, I mean, what would they have to give up though? It's crazy, you see all today's MLB trade deadline. I'm watching all this Red Sox news and boom, they get a player but you're like, oh, would they give up? Would they give up? Then that comes back and you're like, oh shit, some fans even know all the prospects. Like that's a ton. I don't know, just give me the star player and the prospects and the draft picks. The disgusting dirty evil Vegas Golden Knights have just convinced me like, fuck draft picks and fuck prospects. Just bring me in players who are already that good and we'll figure it out later Liam Plutman style. All right, let's throw it to Patrice Berzeron. A true legend of the game and the guy looks great, awesome sit down with us. We appreciate it. I think you guys will. - Call the favor. - And not to create any rumor mill drama stuff but I heard he is skating right now. - Okay. - He's skating again. So I know Boston's a little thin at center. You just, you never know. With the money that guys are making now, I could see him coming back for one more. - I could be stupid not to. - Patrice Berzeron. - Let's take a quick minute here and talk. Rollback, everyone, listen up. Summer is here. Summer, it's already August makes me sick but rollback is locked in with the gear that you need to look good the rest of the way. We get the sweater polo first. Hear me out, sweater polo is not what you think of rollback for but rollback pulled it off. Super comfortable, super soft and an incredibly clean look perfect for a night out. You're gonna want one podium level stuff if it's good enough for biz, it's good enough for the rest of us. Then the tailwind polo. This one might be my favorite. It's so soft, very comfortable, light weight, breathable for the summers. It doesn't feel like you're a walking billboard. Just a clean, easy to wear polo that works everywhere in the kind of shirt you put on and immediately feel like you've got it all figured out. And obviously the swim trunks, if you haven't grabbed those yet, best designs out there. The liner that you actually want to keep in, it's built for everything from the lake to the beach. So go to rollback.com, R-H-O-B-A-C-K dot com use code spittin SPI T-T-I-N for 20% off your first purchase to the end of the week. Summers on new gear is here. Let's go. Let's take a moment here and talk pin golf. Gee, didn't you just play with the founder of pin golf the other day? Yeah, we played at Essex too. One of the nicest scores of their lives. Unbelievable. Just like the random rocks they have, just giant rocks in the middle of a fairway, the elevation. One of the rocks lived on that house behind like the 14th tier. Yeah, it's insane. Obviously I played awful, but pin golf, we were dialed with the pin golf gear. We had the caddy, we had the range finder, the speaker. And it was pretty cool talking to Alex hearing just all the entire origin story of pin golf and how far they've come. And it was pretty cool too. [BLANK_AUDIO] about their national golf month sale. It's going to be huge this month and everything on their website is up to 50% off with Doug. The KDGPS tablet. Oh yeah. That's also on sale. Okay. Oh yeah. All right. That's never on sale. So there's a sale and oh, $100 off on that. All right. So everyone can shop pinned national golf month sale and get dialed in for the rest of the season fall golf is common. Shop pinned national golf month sale and get dialed in for the rest of this golf season. Ladies and gentlemen, we got him. A man who exemplifies leadership. Karate skills. Karate skills according to him now. Boxing. Wife going to be a psychologist. The man can do it all. Stanley Cup champ. Olympic gold medalist. World Junior go everything. He's done it all Patrice Bergeron. And he looks like he gets to play boys. Yes. So what's going on buddy? Not much. Thanks for having me guys. Of course. Of course. We figured once you retired, we'd be able to get you. You know, you're a guy that was just grind in and always dialed in. So we came to Boston basically just to get you. So we appreciate it. Well, thanks for having me. Honestly, I have to be here. Awesome. I was on my way to take a piss and you were talking with which so you're you're taking Karate lessons now. No, that's okay. You were just pulled. Already told you he was you could leg sweep a cow. I think at this point. No, I did some boxing lessons afterwards just to kind of like try different things. And I did go boxing with authority and and our coach. Tommy Tommy was there. But that one was Sean Lally MMA guy that we got acquainted and his friend now obviously. So yeah. So you know, we've just had that one session. Now he says that I'm I'm a jiu jitsu guy and I can you know, I can fight and whatnot. But maybe I should have done that during my career. That would have been how many fights do you have in the NHI? I think three fights. Oh, do you remember who? George was my first one. Okay. Uh, Tyler Myers. What? Okay. He's got the reach on his random. Yeah, he should get the reach. Um, and Blake Wheeler. Okay. Warmer team. It was kind of wild. But yeah, when he was with when is a little spicy, Blake Wheeler, he can get spicy. Yeah, I mean, that was kind of like a random thing. Like he, uh, during the game, like we were in this crumb, you know, in front of that. And um, he kind of said, like anytime you want me, Berge, I'm, I'm ready. I was like, buddy, what? So then I kind of had it in my head. The whole game. That was kind of have to go. He just called me out. Yeah, he just called me out. And uh, but, you know, obviously a lot of respect for him. And there was really nothing behind it. It just, it just kind of happened. I'm sure the media ran with that. Like you didn't want to sign with back with you guys, right? Wasn't something. No, he was traded. I traded. I was with the coyotes. Yeah. I was with the coyotes play. They tried to nickel and diamond on the sign and bonus. Yeah. After he was, he was like fifth overall, right? Five fifth overall. They tried to nickel and diamond. I ain't coming to Phoenix. Trade me right. Fucking now. Right. Trade right now. So what's it been like being retired? Like how much do you miss plan? And, uh, and like, have you really enjoyed the other side, though, and maybe getting a little bit more family time? Yeah. No, for sure. Definitely a lot more family time. Um, as we talked before, my, my wife is back in school now. So I'm, I'm the stay at home dad and like the Uber drive. We got four kids. So definitely busy, but it's a lot of fun. It's nice to, and you know, I'm just taking a step back from, from everything and just kind of concentrating on family and prior to rising that right now. But like, um, you know, definitely sometimes you do miss it. You miss the competition, the intensity of like being on the ice and, uh, being part of a team. I think that's part of the biggest thing. The camaraderie is, is the one thing that you, you'll always miss. Yeah. The room. Yeah. Exactly. Being with the guys. And, uh, but that being said, you know, in Boston, a lot of guys are still around, which is kind of nice. So we have a little skate on Fridays, just, uh, adventure. It's only about the skating. I started rumors that you were coming back. Yeah. There you go. Starting from that. I'm like, are you talking about the skating on Fridays? I know. I heard he's looking good. I heard he's coming back. They need it. They need a settlement. That could be a good deadline acquisition. Yeah. You hear those rumors when we start them? Yeah. No, I did. I heard about it. I had to answer them too. Yeah. Thanks guys. Media from, yeah, there's a couple of me that actually reached out and they're like, Hey, I kind of have to ask. And, uh, obviously friends from back home. So let's do that again. Like I'm next to you. Like I'm coming back. The way the money's going. You might want to be true. Yeah. One year deal. Yeah. Need you in Boston, man. Please. One year. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cassidy's not here anymore. You can come back. I love Cassidy. Yeah. In case you were a big fan. Yeah. I mean, I, all my coaches, I love respect and they, they were great. So I have nothing bad to say about butch. Now was there a side, though, where there wasn't really anything a coach could ever say to you and you're a very modest guy. I'm not, but like I think other guys were like, what's he gonna yell at? Merger on for. There's nothing to yell at. He's giving it to me constantly. You must have seen it a little. No, they're, yeah. But I think they're, every coaches has, you know, a side of them that they can, you know, they're going after some guys and, yes, some guys hear more than others. That being said, like I think like he was trying to get the best out of every. Yeah. In the locker room and, you know, he's done a great job of that, you know, he's really good at that. And like obviously his exes and knows and the way that he coaches is pretty, pretty amazing. So like he's obviously have a lot of respect for all the coaches and the guys I've had. And but I do know that there are some guys that have different opinions about different guys, different coaches. Yeah. We, we had him at TNT, like obviously he said he's a brilliant guy, exes and all. He's like, he, like there's really no gray area teams, right? He's like, this is what you're doing. This is what this is. And then, but just like the other side of like just how, how a coach probably is intelligent as he is, content to wear on guys, because maybe there's some frustration over a course of an 82 game season, but yeah. I don't know. Well, we, I want from that. I want to go, go back to your youth. That's kind of how we do it on. Yeah. And you have a long career. So it won't be too long. But can I say this? One boy is this this hometown where he's from this, is it L'Ancienne l'orette? Yeah, it is. One because like I was born there. Like I didn't really grew up there, but then it's like everywhere. Like everyone says I'm from. Is that Montreal or Quebec City? Quebec City. Like like a little suburb right outside of Quebec City. But yeah, I grew up in a small town just outside Quebec City called Silry, kind of weird, but. And yeah. So like I was born there. Then I grew up playing monohockey around that area for until basically I moved to juniors. Nordic fan. Yes. Huge Nordic fan, which I became an avalanche fan afterwards. Like, and they won, right? That one hurt. Like the next year, maybe 95, they win in 96 when they moved on. So it's like that's like prime NHL fandom, I'd say. Yeah, I know for sure. 95, they had a really good team too. And they were supposed to like go far. And then in the first round, they faced Montreal, they lost. So like I was at the first two games. So yeah, so it hurt, but at the same time, I was a big fan of sack. It can forceburg. And then they moved on to Colorado. So it was a big avalanche guy after that. Do you remember going to games at Quebec? Oh, yeah, it's still there. It's still there. It's a new one now. They don't really use it anymore. It's kind of like now there's a big debate on what they're going to do with it. But like right beside it is a brand new rink. That's beautiful. Yeah, because it seems like every year or whenever expansions talked about that's always Quebec should get a team like, how much do you think they deserve a team? I mean, I think it'd be great. I mean, obviously like, you know, kind of preaching for, you know, my hometown. And I think the fan base is there. I know they've there was some talk about the corporate side that wasn't as strong. I feel like it's became a lot stronger in the past 10 years, I would say. And yeah, hopefully, you know, down the road at some point, I know now there's, you know, creeping up on the amount of teams that we have in leagues. So maybe it'd be a move or from a different franchise. But like, I would love it. I'd love for the fans and for the kids to have that as well. Because I grew up having, you know, you know, idols and guys that were in, you know, in the same city as me and, you know, playing the NHL and having that dream is pretty special. And the sickest uni's gone. Oh, yeah, unbelievable. Were they not selling out that building in Quebec during the, the Montreal playoff from the show and how they, how they like ended up losing that team? Yeah. Well, I just like meant this year during the run. Like, you would see, you know, when they were on the road, you'd see the bell center that was packed. I think they were also selling out the, were they? I looked back. I thought I were the habs. Yeah. For the habs, when they were on the road, like, they would sell out that building too. Maybe I'm going crazy. And it was just the bell center and maybe they had the wrong tag on the bottom, but I could have sworn. You might be right. Because now the fans, the Montreal fans came, you know, they kind of spread out to towards Quebec City now. And, you know, like, yeah, that's the thing. I wonder if like, the Canadians would be okay with having a team in Quebec City of this one. Because now it's their fan base. They're over. We have a lot of probably even Canadians. And of course, a lot of American listeners that haven't been to Quebec City. Like, how would you describe it? Just go into it. Well, a very European, you know, the feel of the downtown, the old Quebec. I mean, I think it's a pretty nice and small town. Beautiful. Yeah. I think it's great. No wings are in the summer. Yeah. Because they had, depending on what, yeah. And they have this like music festival in the summertime that's pretty, pretty incredible. Lots of great big names that go to. So it's a good time to go in July. And then obviously if you're not scared of the cold and you're used to it, there's a carnival in February during the P.E. Tournament, I see you guys. - Everywhere. - Yeah, ice sculpted. - Winnie losers. - Yep, yeah. - Drinking out of those big long things. - Exactly. - There you go. Yeah, so it's, I mean, I recommend it for anyone that's looking for a little change of scenery. - So love of the game was there, right? Like, was your father really involved? We're always kind of interested in like, where your passion came from. If you had siblings who played and maybe best buddies. Like, what were your winters like up there? Just a hockey. - That's what it was. I think it was from my brother. You know, he was a couple of years older. He was playing hockey. I wanted to do the same as him. And back home, you know, like, there's a lot of like neighborhood ranks. The outdoor, like, ranks in the winter time. So you just grab your skates and stick and gloves and you go, you know. - And would they be lit up? - They're lit up and nuts. - That's so cool. - Yeah, 'cause it's dark at like 4 p.m. You know. - Yeah. - Is that still a thing there? - Yeah. - It's still the rings you're going? - Every neighborhood has their own rings. - That's unreal. - So I did get so cold that you don't have to, you know, now people have the pipes and like, you know, the refrigeration and all that. - Whits caught it and it's back. - Yeah. - Yeah. - It has a little maneuver. - I'm going out there bagging myself. Get it for the kids. Now I'm good dad. I'm out there doing mountains on the mini road. (laughs) - T-strip. - Climb in the mountain. Like. - Breathe right in. - Breathe right in. - There's a hole. - There's a hole in the ice. (laughs) - Get your puke and all over the house. Get the fuck in here. I'm not worried about your VO2 max. - I'm pretty sure Ray Borks, I think his dad, like, ran one of those rings and that's how, like, for his neighborhood and that's how he would just be on the ice all day. Every, like, even before school, their lunch breaks, they'd go out and skate. Like, so these kids were on the ice all the time. - Because basically, it's free ice. Like, it's just there whenever you want. You can jump on. There's no, like, schedule or, you know, it's just like, you can go with the puck in a stick and you, after school, I'd go there with my brother all the time. - Yeah. - Can I steal your question? - Here. What's, what Yans was asking for is that I'm going to ask him about why is there maybe a lack of French Canadian players right now, especially for me in the goal-tending category? Like, you're telling me about these outdoor rings where sometimes, like, out west and Ontario see that they're limiting them and taking them away. You heard about stuff during COVID, well, if they have all these outdoor rings and these kids can play for free, what's happening right now with the development? - Yeah, that's a good question. I think there's a lot of talk about it right now. You know, I think hockey Canada as a whole, just talking about it, but I think like, especially like the, you know, Quebec Federation, the province is doing a lot of soul searching right now and like, trying to figure out, you know, what is the, the issue? 'Cause like, if you look at the world juniors, I think we only had one, you know, French Canadian on the team from the province. And, no, no, no, Olympics. - No, I know the Olympics. So like, you know, like, I think there is definitely something that they're trying to figure out, you know, it's around the development. How, you know, is there like new ways of thinking, of doing it that could be helpful? I know they're, you know, actually it's funny 'cause I was at the World Championships in Zurich was the last week or two weeks ago. And I saw the director of the Quebec hockey federation and they were actually doing like a tour right now trying to visit different like countries and see what, you know, what could-- - I got an audit almost. - Yeah, what can we improve and what things are you guys doing that has been successful and whatnot? So I think it's great. I think it hopefully, you know, they find answers and 'cause I know the talent is still there. The kids are, you know, the love of the game is still very much alive. It's more like how do we figure it out? - Yeah, and it's not even bashing it. Like, I'm a proud Canadian. - No, I know. And, you know, I'm sure you're, you're very reality. - Yeah, the province of Quebec. You want to see these guys flourishing. - And hockey Canada wants it. - Oh, yeah. - We're missing a province that we always had. - Like, where the fuck is our Marc Andre Flurry of today, right? We need a guy like that, like with that type of flair and stuff. Even if it's just a net for crime allowed. - It's crazy how the gold thing used to be like-- - It's all French Canadian. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bobby Lou, or like it was like a top goalie every year was a French guy. - Yeah. - And like you play in the Quebec League and every game's eight, six or whatever. - Yeah, I would laugh, like the softest league, but all the tough guys came out of there for a while. Like George Lerock, like they were killers out of there. And then, yeah, that's good that they're, at least out there trying to figure it out. 'Cause I remember, like Barclough telling me like in Finland or whatever, they would play half-ice all the time. And then I saw it, like the kids would be doing that over here, even using half-ice instead of, 'cause you know when you're young, it's the one kid can skate. - Yeah, he's got the hog the whole game. But like having small area game, so making those changes is huge. The question I've always wondered is you play, so you played one full year in the Quebec League, right? Where most guys play two, and then their draft year happens. And your second round pick, best draft of all time, 2003. - There we go, baby. - I mean, like it's just nuts when you look through it's the amount of games that were played from this draft. - I think 20 guys in the first round have played like 1,000 games. - There's like 2,000, it's 1,800. - 10, 51, 13, 65, 15, 26, 13, 21. And like keep going and going and going and going, but all of a sudden you're in the NHL. And second rounder, and like, I don't know your expectations going, and I've always wanted to ask you, like, did you have any idea you'd make the team? - No, not that year. - 'Cause they couldn't have even thought it, I'm guessing. - No, there's no way. I mean, as you said, I was a second round pick. And for me, it was more when I got the training camp was more like, let's leave an impression. You know, hopefully next year or the following year, I'll be in the mix and so I think a dad draft, they traded Stumpel, who was a sentiment. And they didn't sign anyone over the summer. So I kind of got there, there was room. So there was an opportunity. Doesn't mean that, you know, like. - Doesn't mean anything, but at least for you, - Yeah, I'm like, oh, there's, yeah. - New coach, Mike Sullivan, I think it was this, I think he maybe he came in the year before halfway through. And so we was still like a rookie kind of, you know, coach coming up from Providence. So I think he was kind of like open to like look at anyone, give anyone a chance, right? So sometimes this coaches are like, you know, my, - They have their guys, yeah. - Their guys, you know, team is made pretty much before camp and this one was more, anyways, I don't know. Maybe that's something I'm just telling myself, but like, I got there and yeah, I mean, I, I, I rookie camp, I was supposed to like, go through the rookie camp and come back to, to juniors, the batters in the Quebec league. And the Quebec scout at the time, Danielle Dore was, came to me, he was like, hey, you know, you had a good camp, you're gonna bring you to regular camp, first win down, right? - Yeah, so I'm like, oh, that's, this is amazing. And then first week of camp, I slowed down the first couple of days. I was more like in awe of like, seeing Joe Thornton and Merrill was on team then. - So like, and he came to me again, which kiddos to him for like doing that, but he was like, hey, just don't, you know, don't think about who you're playing against and who you're passing to, but like just keep playing your game, they really like you. So that was kind of like the, the moment of being like, all right, like, you know, they're watching me. So like, that's just like even more, more energy, I guess. So I don't know how to say it or explain it, but anyways. So go through the first week and the first game was coming up on the weekend, it was Montreal. So I, he can't, he comes to me again. He's like, they're gonna give you a game and after the game, you're going back to juniors. Like, you had such a great camp, they want to give you a game. So I go there, I play the game and I score an overtime and they're like, you coming back with us. - Oh, I play this. - You must have been so happy at this point. Like, you're like, oh, my God, I'm, I'm, I was wild. I'm surviving this. - Yeah, I know. And I was just happy to play that game. To be honest, my whole family drove down, it's about three hour drive, all at the game. I had some friends. - That's not three on three overtime at that point, either, right? - No. I don't find it out real old school overtime. - Yeah, it was. Yeah, no, you're right. And then, yeah, so I scored that goal. They're like, hey, you're coming back, you know, for the Boston, so I go back on the plane. And we had nine games, nine execution games back then, which was a lot more than now. I played all nine and signed the contract at the end. They signed the goal. - Holy, I bet they weren't sure, though, if you were gonna, like, 'cause you could, men, it's in at the eight games then, then, like, did you, when you signed, were you like, I'm gonna get it all year or not, no, no, they're like, they're gonna try. And at that point, so I signed the contract, which means I'm gonna start the year, and they signed Travis Green the next day as a center. And I'm like, oh, no, I'm going back. Like, you know, there's no way they're gonna keep me. And then, so I played my first few games, and they switched me to the wing. And, and yeah, I guess we were on the road, played the California trip to start, which was pretty amazing, as it started in LA for, you know, I think it was Dallas. And then when playing Jersey at the Garden, the first game, that was my first NHL game, and it was a tie, there were ties back then. It was a tie, two-two. And back then, Jersey didn't give up any space, right? It was just a boring two-two game. And then we went to that Dallas and California trip, and I didn't know if I was gonna make it. And after I think game, maybe seven or eight, they were like, hey, you should look for a place. - I mean, yeah. - I think you don't know. - When did you decide to live with Martin the Point? - So that's what happened. So Mike Sullivan, and that's Marty that told me that, I guess Mike Sullivan, the coach went to Marty and said, can you help Berge like find a place to stay? and we're gonna keep him. And he said, well, if he's okay with all talk to him, but like I'd love for him to come with me. So took me under his wing and stayed with his family. And I mean, that was beyond like cr-- - It was surreal to me to have him like-- - How was your English at this point? - Awful. - Okay. - 'Cause I remember like-- - I could barely speak. - I'd be commercial him on the San Bonnie with the. - Raycroft. - No, no, it was Samson off. Sergei Samson off. - That was Razor. - Oh, it was Razor. - For Bruins fans and even hockey fans, like O304, the Bruins roster, Thornton, Glenn Murray, Brian Rolston, Mike Knubel, Samson off. Nick Boynton was there, Travis Green, Michael Neelander, a couple games, Hal Gale, Rob Zamner, like this was. - Oh, wow. - This is a fun group. - Gone char, yeah. - Yeah, that deadline. - Going back to, like they, 'cause the Bruins were known as like a pretty cheap organization back then, right? I bet they were just flying you up there so they didn't have to pay for your flight from Boston. - Yeah, it would be 100%. - Quicker to get back. - Yeah, we'll get back-- - Come back. - We'll boss you to Bathurst. Thank God you scored. - Yeah. - Yeah. (laughing) - But you made it. - But you just made the great offset. - Who'd you play in game seven? Who was that first round against? Seven game series? - Montreal. - Oh my God. - Where was game seven? - Boston, we had the home ice. We should have won that series by a mile, but I mean, it could have was the obviously Montreal, but I'm just saying, like, we were up three to one and we lost that series. - Oh, remember that. - That was the end of all this time. - So this is, you came in an interesting time too, 'cause you came in pre-Locco. - I know, that's so easy. - I mean, before we get there though, I wanna talk about the draft specifically. Like, did you know where you were gonna go around? Like, did you think you would go that high? And then, like, what was it as a French Canadian kid getting drafted by the Bruins at that time? 'Cause I feel like that rivalry was still a thing then. - I loved it. I was, as I said, I was a big Nordic fan and when they left, like, I was not a Canadian thing at all. So, like, to be with the rivals for me was great. So that's, but like, the draft, like, I, I didn't know. I had no expectations. Obviously, I fell onto the radar. Like, I wasn't really, you know, I wasn't, I, the second round, the third round was kind of my hope. I knew the first round was not, like, kind of out of the, the equation. I didn't go to the, what was that game back then? Like, the. - Oh, prospect. - Prospect, I didn't go. I didn't make that or cherry. - Was that something at a time you're like bummed out about? - Well, yeah, really. I started on the fourth line in Bather's that for my first year. I was on the fourth line and it kind of moved up. - In the NHL, one year. - Yeah, yeah. It's 70 points and like that kind of. - 'Cause that first year in junior, you played four games to kind of get your feet wet. You came in and played that full season before you made the NHL and like, you ended up at camp and started fourth line and just progressed your way up. - Yeah, exactly. So like that, so those, those four games were like, around Christmas time, they had a lot of injuries. They call me 'cause they were playing in Quebec City. So like, I was right there. They're like, do you wanna? So I came in for a few games around that during that road trip and then went back to midget AAA. But then it's the following year. I still wasn't like a sure shot to make that team. I was a fifth round pick in juniors. - Yeah, so at 13 or 14, I know we're kind of all over the place. Were you like not one of the big names in Quebec City? - I mean, you must've been pretty good. I was a good player like on my team. - Yeah. - But I don't know if you guys remember like Steve Bernier - Yeah, yeah. - More completely on it. - I play with them in under 17s. - Yeah, in under 18s. - So they were like the guys. - The guys. - Yeah. - Like they were like above and beyond it. With Crosby and Ramoski. - Yeah, exactly. Roussaine, Danny, Roussaine. - Oh yeah, I play with him too. - Okay. - So those guys were like the, you know, they were above and beyond everyone. They were like, like, men playing with kids basically at that age. Like amazing and so they were like the ones that were supposed to be like, well, that ended up being first round picks and, but you could tell like they had some special about them. But like, so I kind of fell because of that on the radar bit because I was playing in the same league. And yeah, so like got drafted in the fifth round juniors. Got a couple of games that same year when I got, I went training camp, got cut. But then when played midget replay, got the four games around Christmas time, came back down. I think the following year, that's when like I was, I was saying like I wasn't a sure shot to make that team. So like I was at the end of training camp, like obviously ended up making it, but I was on fourth line and kind of worked my way up during that year to eventually being on the radar to add the draft. 'Cause like that was something that I, it's funny. 'Cause like my, at the time I had like an agent, but I wasn't, you know, he was more. - Advisor, kind of. - Advisor, yeah, exactly. And then he called me in January and he said, how's everything going? I'm like, well, I mean, I'm having fun and whatnot. Then he goes, I was talking to Chicago the other day and they like your game. And I was like, Chicago, like, who are you talking about? He's like the black ox. I'm like, what's, I was like, what do you mean? So I had no idea that I was like, it's almost like it kind of like good almost. It was over my head the fact that it was my draft year. - And you were, it seems like you were probably we're not reading the press clippings, like reading things about yourself. You're just kind of worried about playing hockey and getting better. - And Bathurst is a really small town. Like, you know, he ends nose. Like it's, so yeah, I was just hanging out with the guys and like, have a fun. - Stay starting off on the fourth line. But he had to be pretty good defensively. Like do you think that led to like the type of player you became where you were just, it was so responsible, right? Like, 'cause you had to be that way, maybe at like a younger age. - And in a league where I feel like it was very point driven. Like the Quebec League, like a lot of these guys, 100 points, 150 points. - Yeah, I think the, you know, it definitely made me like conscientious of like, you know, my defensive game and like making sure that, you know, 'cause if you make a mistake, if you're on the fourth line, like yeah, you're not seeing the eyes again, right? So like, obviously there is that part. But also our coach that year was really big on like face-offs and like playing the right way and like, you know, like not taking any chances. And, you know, I'm a type of guy I'm wants to do right by the, yeah, you want to press your coach, right thing. And like, so like that was like, I took so much, I put so much emphasis on like face-off and working on it and like making sure that, you know, was doing the right, so I think that helped me a lot that year. Like that learning process of like playing defensively sound but also like, you know, try to eventually bring some offense to it as the year progressed. - All right, so take, the rookie year happens, which is just incredible, like the way that all works out. And then all of a sudden, like boom, leagues cancel, right? Now, since you're under the entry level deal, like was there any discussion of anything or was it provenance? Like you knew you were gonna be in provenance, which I was in the HL that year, it was a great league. - Oh, yeah. - I mean, team five to seven guys who are on the NHL team the next year, but was there talk of going to Europe or anything, you know, guys? - Yeah, and I feel like those players had the advantage coming out of the lockout, there was a lot of like old school guys who they probably had big contracts and they took the full year off and they came back and it felt like the game, because of no more obstruction, it was like another level, another speed. And yeah, like what, so like what was all that like? - Indeed, like the new rules we did in, during that year really tried the no red line. So we were a million penalties at the beginning of that year. - Yeah, oh shit. - All that stuff, like we tried, like we were kind of the guinea pigs for that, so like it was helpful having that year for sure. For myself, like I never really considered Europe, because like, so the, my junior team was like pulling hard for me to go back, yeah, but that's like, but then I was like, well, I really wanted to go to provenance. The main reason was to continue my development, but also the second was to continue to learn English, 'cause it was so bad, I was like, I gotta, 'cause last year, the year before I was with Marty, right? Playing, speaking French, speaking French to the family, pretty much the whole year. So then like, you don't really, you need to immerse yourself if you want to learn and really improve. And so like I was like, I need to go live on my own and like learn English and like develop as a player. And I knew that the league was gonna be a great league, you know, like, there was a lot of talk of like a lot of guys in my situation or the younger guys that were gonna go play. Like I remember Spedza went and played. So a lot of guys, their team was away. And he was talking about Bingo. Yeah, you saying how they ran through the regular season, then you guys beat him and played off? And I actually wanted to ask you, if you remember, we played you guys in provenance, and it was an afternoon game. And there was 16 anthem. David Kochi fought Colton or, I don't know, I mean, you've played so a lot, buddy. Kochi must have got it. Oh, it looked like me and I was putting it on there. It reached the blood, reached Boston from the provenance arena from Kochi's nose. But I actually, I knew Colton or you guys had, but you had Brent Thompson. Yeah. Oh, but you had Brent and Walsh on that team. It was Walsh. You had Jay has your son. That was a tough team you guys had. But every team was like that though. Yeah, there was a big guy then. Yeah, meet there was at least three or four fights every game, yeah. But what's cool about that? Oh, sorry, go ahead. I was just going to say from playing in the NHL with the old rules going and then in the NHL with the new rules for you, was it like, oh my god, this is so much better because the D back then were big, holding you. And I'm sure you were 18. You were still growing into your body, not as strong. So was it much easier for you in the NHL? That year as opposed to the NHL year before. It just felt like it was a lot more fun. Like, you know, you felt like you had more room, more time. Obviously it was nice to have more power plays here. you know, like, uh. But the red line made such a big difference but then it was a big adjustment like defensively like a neutral zone. How do you defend and like so there's all that but like I can't imagine like playing with a red line anymore. You know what I mean? Like Wayne Wayne says they should bring it back. I asked him what would be one I said what would be one rule change and he said he would bring back the red line. He had a he had a great reason as to why my CTs kicking in right now. I can't really remember what I mean. That's so tough to just bring up something Wayne Gratsky brought up in like a crazy rule and then not knowing what he said. Yeah. Okay. There's a 10% chance. We drop this interview. We'll have you call so we can then after the interview. Give give give. But that year. So the coolest part for you that year was you leave middle of the year and you go to play for the greatest world junior team arguably that's ever that's ever kind of been fielded and that was the first time I think you and Sid played together, right? First time and and I just remember it was in North Dakota. I remember you guys and it was like Ovechkin vs. Prosbee and and and Malkin was there too. And Malkin was there and like take take me through your memories of that and also like seeing Sid who hasn't even been drafted yet. You must have been like holy shit. Yeah. Who is this guy? He is. I remember the first practice when Sid was on the ice and he there's a three on two and I don't know like we kind of like regrouped in neutral zone and he ended up being in the middle and I passed to him and he went right through both these with such pita was like what is going on? Like and it was like Shay Weber and like for nothing. Yeah. Was your did your decor was like a Hall of Fame decor. So it was I was like oh my god. So I'll just give him that puck I guess. I'm still like he's yeah. He was on a different level. He was 17 too. Like he with the bubble and yep. Yeah. But nine too. Was any right exactly. No. That team was was incredible. I mean so much fun. And as I like I've never really had I guess I played the year before at the worlds. But like I didn't really I didn't know much of these guys because I wasn't part of these games. You know they're young there's 17 or under 18 whatever that's called. And so like I didn't they really know get slapped or like Carter and Richards and all these guys were new to me. But like I was so impressed with the talent and and the character also it wasn't they guys wanted to win and like they were like chirping each other like in practice. They were going hard and the end because he was always like because they're almost like feeling each other like you're on the same team but there's some competitive now. Yeah. Right. Yeah. You're all that plan again. You're all that. I guess that's not plan against them. Yeah. I mean going through this the tournament scoring leaders. You led the tournament scoring. Then it was Getslap, Ovechkin, Jeff Carter, Malcolm, Crosby and it like you just keep going and going. It's nuts that you got to kind of experience that which is probably cool to break up the HL season two. Yeah. You get to go away for two three weeks. It was a fun fun experience but also it was a nice little break up in the season. Yeah. Especially at that time I think there was talks about like if we're not going back to the NHL halfway through it's you know it's over. So like knowing that like I went over there I had the chance to like live that experience and you know I'm looking at it as the glass half full even though you when I missed a year planning NHL I had a chance to play the world juniors and like on one of the good teams that you know has been on the ice. I've been till that point like had you face ever face pressure like that because I believe it was the year prior where it was the Patrick O Sullivan goal off of flurry right. They lost the goal of the goal medal. So all of a sudden you guys have this stack line up half the team was a year underage of the max the year prior. So now all of a sudden you have the fanuffs the sea Brooks. I think Colburn was on the team Crosby obviously a year older like was at the most pressure you'd ever felt to that point to like bring home gold for Canada. I don't if we felt pressure all that much it was more like the expectations inside the locker room was so high. The guys had a chip on their shoulders because they lost a year before like as you said I think was 11 or 12 guys coming back from the year before. Steven Dexon was on the team of all guys. Clark McCartor I think was on it. Yeah, like he was there. Dickey being on that team was crazy. He just fourth line grinder. Was he shaving his v-neck and his chest back then and his his triceps. I remember him being so funny man. Oh fuck. He was the best in lock right. You know like the trips that like just the the one liners that he had like he was a great guy but um yeah the guys just I think because of what happened the year before like it was just like and they were on the mission everyone you could tell like there's no uh nothing was really going to stop him from like getting that gold that year and you know I was running along and it was a lot of fun to be a part of that. What was the gold medal game? Was it against Russia? Yeah, Russia. Okay. And what was it? It's one. Oh God. That's a state. That was the double D on game. Yeah, the double D on the double D in release in each one. You mentioned like going to Providence, learn English then you go into a locker room like that with like coming to those guys ended up being captains of NHL teams and for you, you're known as one of the best leaders like when did you find your voice to be that leader and be able to speak up and be who you are now. Yeah, I think that year was uh was definitely helpful for me to start. I mean going to the world juniors also like the fact that you know I played in NHL the year before um you know I was bringing some experience to the locker room and it's you know coach was Brent Sutter at the time put a name on my jersey so that you know obviously meant a lot. I was still maybe a little shy with uh with the English but once I was with guys my age it kind of helped like finding my voice a little bit not you know. You're more confident. Yeah, I'm not feeling so bad about like messing up or whatever. So like that that tournament really helped me with like uh leadership part but also leading by example but and and and learning from some guys too. Some guys were like you know Mike Richards was was a guy that was uh pretty impressive as a teammate and and he was he was a menace on the ice you know he was a game exactly. I played under 17 with him under 18 him and Jeff Carter like just his stick was so good. Maybe not the fastest guy but just fight anyone. So that locker year him and Carter came to Philly after their only Chelsea and then get in the second round. We were up four one in the third period game six they won seven for it. They ended up playing you guys in the fifth. We played them in uh we lost in uh once it's six but and they won it. They won. Yeah. Yeah. They uh oh the year of the lockout. Yeah. Yeah. They added those two and it was it was a more bear when they added those two guys. Yeah. They led the the league and scored the playoffs. Yeah. Carts and Richie I think. Yeah. Do that out of juniors insane. Yeah. And now and like we said that league was legit. Talk about the first three years of your like your professional career. So you make it out of camp after only playing one year junior on the fourth time you're beginning of that year. Yeah. Yeah. I hit the round back in the queue that three four year span then the next year you go to Providence you get the win gold with with Canada and experience you know that that year down the miners with the new rules and then that next year you come back and then 23 games in the season Joe Thornton gets traded. Yeah. What's the fucking goal? I've been so shocking for it. Yeah it was especially this early in the year like it was yeah it was wild. It was a crazy time for sure. Now going back to the year you lost to Montreal that was when they were all over him. He had broken ribs right and the media it was and the fans were like oh yeah he's not producing and it's and I think a lot of people who know and you yeah I'm speaking for you it's like they can't even breathe with a broken rib right like that was part of it I think wasn't it? 100% like I um I was always impressed with Joey always wanted to play and threw so much like I remember like earlier in that year my first year he he got into a fight against Lindros and Lindros broke his face like his his orbital bone and his nose and he got surgery and then we had a game like the next day or the following day and I remember a trainer being like hey you're gonna take some a few weeks off like it's the regular season and he was it was on the ice you played the game. No she was wild yeah full full cage and then yeah he was yeah I know yeah no that was not not it like he was he was as tough as they come but also his love of the game was special I don't think there's anyone who loves the game more than I'm still in the lock still doing how I call the locks for the boys yeah I'm fucking out of mine I love them but it must have been two like they knew they had him where which is weird for you I bet right yeah you're 20 and you're lighting it up that year so they're part of it is like oh we kind of got our guy but which is maybe awkward for you what have I never saw that way I mean I I couldn't tell you really what the reason why they traded him and what really went behind the scenes but I was still young you know like I know I needed some time to really like be be the face of the team but yeah I mean it was it was a crazy crazy year obviously it was it was definitely a tough time around you know the fan base and like there's a lot of things going on around that time the building wasn't always full you know only there's there's some tough years early but you know obviously it was all worth it in the end I guess and so those two years out of the lockout point per game player right there your games like really in your 21-ish and then all of a sudden that Randy Jones hit yeah and and I think would you play 10 game that year like that was the 10 game did you ever try to come back during that that year. I mean, it was kind of similar to what Sid went through later where you're, it's kind of a scary time, right? Like you'd been through a lot physically and mentally to not know if you were going to be good again, right? Yeah. No, for sure. It was, uh, it was more mentally. There was, there was the hardest part, um, you know, like, I probably could have played at the end. I think I was, I was ready to play, um, and I'll never know if, you know, what was the best, uh, decision at that point, maybe I would have been fine to play. They shot me, I think it was young and they wanted to shut me down and like, you know, let's start over. Let's not have the whole summer so you can really build your strength back and they weren't to buy offs anyways. No, we, we were there for the first round. Okay. We lost in the first round, but like, uh, we were kind of rebuilding also, um, uh, that year. So it was, uh, yeah, it was a tough year. It was, it was mentally really draining and, um, it's more of the questions that it goes through your head. Like, questions that people ask you, right? Yeah. You being asked all the time how you feel and how you're going to, you know, you're going to be okay or, you know, are you the media asking if, you know, you're going to feel it going to be scary. We go back on the ice or feel it going to be the same player so that, you know, a lot of soul searching at that point, but like, it was, uh, something that obviously made me stronger than I learned from. I guess like after that, I mean, it was kind of like, you're saying the rebuild happened. What? Besides then, I mean, there was names that came in and crates you becomes a player and then the biggest thing though was like big Z and what he brought and survived. And then you have to see him go through everything. But you must have been realizing we're building something special here, right? And what did big Z act like when he came in? Cause we've heard the stories of camp when he's doing 35 pull ups and everyone's like, uh, oh, and you were still pretty young when he came. 21. Yeah. Demanding, right? I mean, like, uh, so I played against him, right? When he was an Ottawa. So like when he, when I found out that we signed him over the summer, it was like, oh, God, thank God, you know, like, I have to face him anymore. But I guess like what I didn't realize is he places has hard in practice. So that's like, I was like, oh, I always tell that story of like, uh, usually it come to me and be like, Hey, let's set the tone today for practice. And he always wanted to start drills and it was like a one-on-one drill. And I was like, yeah, let's go like let's, let's, let's, you know, let's play hard and let's, let's set the pace. And I go into the corner and he absolutely buries me like from behind, too. And I'm like, I'm on, I'm on the ice. I fall down. And then the whole year, no, but that wasn't that year. I'm just like, that's kind of jumped a few years at that point. But like, and then he's, I'm on the, on the ice and he's pushing me down and like, my helmet's over in my head. And I'm like, what is happening? And then like, Claude, like, feels bad. He's like, all right. Like, you know, I'm waving to the white, uh, the white towel here. Like, so like, he blows the whistle. Like, goes back to our line and goes, great job. And I'm like, yeah, for you, you abused me for 15 seconds in the corner. I go it. Anyways, I always thought, I always tell that story because it's kind of like Z in a nutshell. You know, like, he just can't turn it off. But like, what he did for us as a team and, and individually, like, just to like, find that edge and find the intensity and like, don't take a practice or shift or a workout, you know, off. You always need to be on and, and, and that's the culture that he, that he brought in. I mean, it's just leading by example every day. Right? They didn't have to say much. You just had to look at you like the wrong way to be like, all right. Like, I'll dial it back in. You know, so, and, and then yeah, you're right. You know, they, they brought in some character guys and some pieces that came in and like, want it to be a part of the solution and, and, and, and really bought into what, you know, the leadership group wanted the, the cell and, and the coaching staff and, um, but it definitely started with Z, you know, and, and, and it's in, it's intensity and, and you, you're right. You know, the, the pull ups and a training camp and, and back then we used to do the, um, the wing gate. Oh, yeah. That one. But it was, it was worse than the rule. You feel like you have a puke after? Yeah. 100%. But he crushed it. But like, it wasn't even close. Like, the sec, it was first, but then the second was like, I don't remember exactly what the bike was broken. Yeah. If they hang down the base, you, you're, you're, you're, you're watching a joke, right? Yeah. If you're able to sustain, anyways, but like, he was miles ahead of everyone else. So, and then he was kind of like mad at us because it was kind of like, Hey, we need to, like, we have a lot of work to be in front of us. If this is what we're showing up with in this, so then that's when that can the summertime guys, like, we see you're nervous about him. Yeah. So, like, I think it was great for him to be like, you know, this is unacceptable. Like, these numbers are like embarrassing. Like, we need to like figure it out. So, a lot of things happen, but obviously that part of it, that competitive drive and that leading by example of like this, never being satisfied from Z has been pretty special to, to witness, but also, I think it's really helpful for us because we were all young at that time. I tell the story all the time when we were during the lockout in, what was that 12? When he came back from China, came back from China. We were all skating at BU. It was like the dog days of the lockout and he flew overnight and landed came in skate. And we were like two minutes late, getting on the ice. He comes in the locker room, get the fuck on the ice, everything screams. We're like, dude, we've been, we've been doing this in September. Leave us alone. He's like, get on the ice and it's we in the morning. I'm like, go see your family, man, like, he was a machine. What was your introduction to Brad Marsha, like when, when did he, how, when did he come in? Funny enough, I didn't know. I thought the cup year was his rookie year. He played 20 games a year before he came to school. He played 20 games for a goal. Yeah. I didn't know that. I thought it was that first. Yeah. No, you had a couple training camps, I think, before maybe a year, one training camp, they went back to juniors and another training camp where he played in the A and then came up and played those 20 games and then the following. So I think it was a third training camp, his rookie year. Was he being a rat out there? Like, did you notice him? Like, was he on the radar? He was like, I remember actually, when I was coming back from my concussion, that's summer. So we, you know, I missed that whole year, come back in the summer and there was like, Def camp, they started doing that. So Marsha was there and I asked if I could go skate with the guys and like, so I was there. And I remember doing like, first practice, I didn't know Marsha at all. We do this drill and it's a one on one in the corner. And he comes in so hot and he like, and he hits me, and I'm like, who is this guy? And he's like, obviously, like, he's, he's not the biggest and I was like, what's happening? And he was so relentless on the park and like, hitting me and like, so like, I was like, all right. Like this, but I liked it. I was like, this guy's a gamer like, he knew what he was doing, too. So like, from that training, from that camp and they asked me, they're like, if there's one guy that like stood out and I was like, this guy like Marsha, like, he's, he wants it. You could tell like, you know, I don't think I saw, but like Martin St. Louis said, he was at Def camp for the Canadians. I think it's from this past year and he said, if I have like a ball and I leave it at the center of this locker room, who's going to leave with it, right? I would, you'd be on the team, who's got, I guess, the guts and the will to go above and be on the really do whatever it takes to make the team. That's what Marsha, you know, kind of felt to me that during that, that week of Def camp. Like he was just like, like a dog on a bone at every play. He wouldn't give up. Like, let's say like you go for like, you know, a shooting drill early in practice and just take the one shot going the corner. He would go for the rebound, grab the rebound, try to go score. Even if like, yeah, you know, the goal he was still watching, the next guy coming, right? He was still going to put the puck in and like, why I kind of like how Talbot was a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. Talbot was like that too. Yeah, but like Marsha just was so skilled. I remember. So I, I know I remember watching the finals and I, correct me. He was on the fourth line at one point in that year. Yeah. And then by the finals, you guys are playing incredibly together, top line. And I was like, this guy, like he's so much more skilled than I thought, playing against him early or watching. I was like, wow, he's like toe dragging guys and like, he had moves that I didn't expect where you say Talbot didn't have like that aspect of it all, no, which was even crazier. No, no. No, he definitely had that skill skill set that, you know, but then he, he came in and he was willing to do whatever he took to stick and to be on the team and if it meant to be on the fourth line and be like, yeah, you know, a past is, you know, he didn't care. So and could host it to him for doing that and obviously he had it in him too as well. But from marshy, I think it was more like the growth, you know, from like the, the, the steps that he took from, from like the beginnings to like, to now really like it, but he's all just like maturity wise and maturity. Yeah. I think he was, it was hard. It's almost like he was stuck between like, he had to be that like four-checking guy who would get on your skin in that rat. But yet then he had to be like a top line player. So he was trying to find that balance. Like, yeah, there was a few instances, but like he looked back on hockey history like him. Larry him. Like in Calhant's face. He's fucking hilarious. Yeah. Unbelievable. Yeah. Like you guys must. Yeah. That's what we draw the line, marshy. Hey, like what, what, what you did that like, what are you guys saying in the lock through about? I mean, is it more like, who thinks this happened? Yeah. He's like, what? It's not in the rule book. I'm like, yeah. That's such a marshy answer. Yeah. He was like trying to get on the earth skin and was like, well, I mean, you know, I'll do whatever it takes. Well, you're like, that's a salt brother, but I know that if you should talk about this or if you like, no, but there's also like for you, his teammates, like, guy, we don't want you suspended. We want you to like, it must have been conversation. No, there's conversations. Like, why aren't you just smart guy? Like he, he's extremely emotional. Like he's, you know, he's got his heart on his sleeve and like, you'll do whatever for the team for his teammates. And, you know, there's moments where like the emotions got the best of them. And it's just what it is. And he would be the first to say after the incident and be like, yeah, I know. You don't want to say anything like, yeah, I just the wires crossed. Yeah. Exactly. On the best, many times I had to like put my arm around him and be like, buddy, like simmer down. Like we, yeah, it's get back to the game. Like we need you, you know, like, would he ever bite back at you or would he always? No, it was like, that's cool. No, we had that relationship, right? Like we were really good friends and we still are. So like it's, yeah, it was more like, and I was, you know, it happened to me as well, where he would be like, hey, like, you know, let's focus back on the game and like, you know, let's forget about this or whatever. So like we had, you know, we've played together for so long that we were able to like, be able to talk to each other and like, and have no hard feelings from it. So like, and to go back on marshy to him, making it, I think like he's, he paid his dues. And that's, he always says that. And sometimes it grinds his gears when like, he sees like, guys that hand his first line. Yeah. I think for him, he's like, that's what built me like fort line and have to work my way up. And like, you know, eventually like coming through, like that's the adversity that, you know, you need. That's why he's still playing. Yeah. That's part of it, I think. I played with him in junior. He was on the fourth line, like barely playing like there were guys way better than him. Like, I mean, it's similar to you earning everything that he got, like nothing was handed to him. You got to tip your cap to guys like that. Because nowadays, it's like, even when you made it 18, there wasn't many guys. Like it is now. No. Yeah. No, it wasn't older than the guys played. Yeah. Yeah. It's crazy. Like it never had. Well, the thing that was crazy about it is like, it kind of goes back to that old three draft. And maybe it was just timing because of the lock out, but a lot of those guys just kind of stepped right in. Yeah. But that was kind of like a weird time for it to all go down. But pre lock out, it was so rare. Yeah. Like it was so fucking fun. But I think the lock out changed that. Cause then you, you know, the new rules of CBA, like of like, it became a younger league as well, right? With the rules and like the cap. So like, yeah, they needed those cheat players in. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of the trial labor. Yeah. I mean, that was 36 million. Wasn't it? It was low. Yeah. I don't remember exactly the number. But yeah. Um, the, like, the, like, the culture, like, so like Sullivan, he was he fired, or does it contract? Yeah. So he was, uh, it was fired. And then, uh, Dave Lewis came in for a year. Yeah. Lowl came in the following year. If I'm not mistaken. And when he got there, could you sense it like, like, that's our guy. Like, like, yeah. Yeah. I mean, so speaking about like Z and like the culture that he brought in and, and the intensity, I think Claude was, uh, very like black and white, you know, and the structure you, you, you either like do it as I say or you don't do it and you're not going to play. So like, there's a lot of that where there's no gray areas and there's no like ad lib and like trying to, so like, it was a lot of like, very simple system, but also very effective. And I think that's what we needed. We needed some structure at that time. You know, we're very laxical in a lot of, you know, guys cheating and a lot of, you know, cutting corners and, and he really like, changed that aspect on the ice. And I thought that was, that was great. And again, I go back to, yes, Claude came in with that system and that culture, Z, but also the guys that came in after like the character that came in and, and the buy-in that, that was there from those guys, like, made the biggest difference. What, like, 40s, soupies, soupies, very Campbell, Boyd, Sean, Thornton, Boyd. Boyd parents. It was a tough team. Yeah. Like, wait, yeah. The crazy thing about those teams was that it was tough and you'd say all these guys and then you'd be like, and chara, yeah, it was the toughest of them all. Yeah, everyone was crazy. But the 11 season, which we have to get into that a little bit, I, I think people forget that the year before, you're up 3-0 against Philly. And then you're up 3-0 often in games that lose that, so that had to create so much anger going into that next year with everyone. And probably wary with Julian a little bit, like, to get through that to survive, not getting fired. That was the year before they won it and then Philly lost to Chicago in the Cup Final. Wow. Was that first round? Oh, my God. I would say it right here. Philly? No, it wasn't. Yeah. Second round, yeah. We actually played you the year that you guys won it in the world premiere games at the start of the year. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, I was going to ask you that, because every time, and we were a very tight knit group, and every time we saw you guys, you get eight guys deep, 10 guys deep, we guys always liked that on the road. Yeah. Yeah, we were. That was, you know, it was great, especially those years was, we wouldn't text each other, like, who's going where? We'd go, we'd meet in lobby and just like figure it out from there. We used to have like some big groups go, go enough for dinner, which was awesome. How do you call it? The bag chuckers. You get there, you chuck your bag in the room and you're right there down the lobby. Exactly right. I'm in Chris Mason. Me too. What was a young Tyler Sagan like on that team? Exactly. I don't know if you guys remember, but he was a rock star in this city. I've never seen anything like that. It was him and Gronker. Yeah. Yeah. And Mars, she was runner. How would them do that? Sure, it list the greatest bar. You'd see the fence. Yeah. And Sagan was, he was something. He was so much talent. I mean, obviously came in and lived on his own in 18 and like he was living it up for sure. Burn and rubber. Got the boot on the apartment quick, right? Oh, what? Yeah, I think he did. He got a boot. Yeah, I think so. I didn't get his first and last month. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're keeping the deposit. Yeah, he was, he was wild, but he was, man, he was he talented. He was, he was a good player. And obviously it was, I'm sure he would say that. I think it was a great thing for him to be on the veteran team as well. Oh, yeah. Guys and like, you know, to help him help him out, I know soupie was huge for him at that time to help him getting his way around and, you know, probably got him on a treble a few times as well. So, yeah. For you having cloned in like a French coach, were you like the buffer for the team? Because he used to be hard on guys, right? Yeah, he was hard on guys. He was, I want to say he was demanding, but he was fair. I go back to that. Like he was, he wouldn't like, I think you knew why you weren't playing or you, you know, you know, this is why and he would have meetings and tell guys, you know, as, as it is and, you know, sometimes it's, as, as we said before, you know, like there, there's some relationships sometimes that are harder to, to gap, I guess, because of like the difference in opinions, but like, at the end of the day, like, you knew why you weren't part of the, the lineup and this is what I need, you know, if you want to get back in and, um, but yeah, I thought, was I a buffer? I think he was good with like meeting with us and like sharing what he thought and like for us to, to kind of, so I think like we were the bridge for sure and I think we were selling what he was selling. Yeah. I think like you have to go behind and you have to be in sync. Like if you're not with your coach and like your leadership group is like behind your back, like talking crap, like obviously that's just not like how it's going to work, right? Then there's going to be some, uh, some issues. So like that, that was really important for him to, to share that with us and, and I thought, you know, for us, I think we did a good job of like buying in and really selling to the guys. Like this is, you know, there's some, back then, like I don't know if you remember, but like, you had to wear suit even on the plane and like, yeah, so even on the road, we had to wear suit on days off and like, and that was like now, like that, that all changed. like some guys were like, we're in Florida. We're wearing like a, a, a, a jacket on top. Can we? From the guy in Montreal that was like, it weighed like 30 pounds. Yeah. I had to dominate. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Get the full one. So the C3 in Lauderdale, like a ride, like a scary wool suit, special three piece. Yeah. Just absorb the area. Oh my god. What's that bar in Florida called? Elbow room. Elbow. You're at the elbow room. Just sweat in your dick off your wool suit, grinding on the dance or paying cash or booze. Now, so you guys were kind of like the Leafs before the Leafs. You guys blew that three one series lead against Montreal. We just talked about the one you guys blew to Philly. So going in that next year, as Whit mentioned, like you guys had this massive chip on your shoulder. Yeah. Was that camp like a different level? Yeah. I think it was. I mean, it was definitely a learning experience for us. Yeah. I think it was, it could have been our first, a second time going the second round, right? Like so, like, uh, and to lose, obviously, the way we did, there's, we had no business losing that game. We're up three nothing in game seven, right? So, um, to go back to that series that we lost Cratch, like we were up, I think three nothing in the series of three one and Cratch, Richie, hit him and broke his wrist. And, uh, that hurt us. Uh, we lost our momentum there as well, losing him, but that being said, we should have won that series. But yes, I think like to go back to the world juniors and like, you know, lose in the game that the year before and the guys coming back the next year with, with Avengers, I think that was definitely true for, for our team. And, um, yeah, you know, I remember having a lot of early meetings and, um, in, in, in August, even with Z and like, Claude and, and really trying to come up with like a plan and like, this is how it's going to be this it was, it was, it was definitely like a different, like, feel a lot more business like and like, all right, like we, we can mess this up because if we do, like, we're, you know, we're going to break. going to break up the team. You know, yeah, the course might be gone. The core is going to be gone, like, and that was, you know, I'm going to fast forward, but like in 2011, like in the first round, we, um, we were almost, we went to game seven against Montreal, and we're supposed to win the, the win that series pretty easily. And then we went to game seven. So like, we lose that game. I remember that was done. It's done. It's done. Yeah. It's over. Shit. That was it. That was it. I didn't. I just want it. Yeah. Wow. So you guys went to seven against Florida. No team winner. Yeah. Tim Thomas made a save on Giante. I think in overtime of that game. I don't know if that was overtime, but yes. That's two on one. You mean? Oh, my God. Yeah. From the back. It would have put them ahead. Yeah. Yeah. It was a big team. You like, there was so many saves like that. Like, you know, the saves that he made during that playoff round run is insane. Like crazy saves, dude. Like what like, so it was Tim Thomas with the team the year prior. Yeah. Didn't Tuka play though? Was Tuka in that? I think Tuka played that year. And then they went into the next season. It was like kind of a goalie competition. And Thomas played so good. It was like, all right. This is your net. Okay. Yeah. You might be right. I, I wasn't sure on that. What was his, like, what was his demeanor? He kind of looked like a bit of a beer league goalie because of his style. But and he seemed like he probably wasn't the skinniest guy either. Fuck. Could he get it done? Oh, yeah. The battle fly. We called him like the battle fly. Yeah, because there's because like it wasn't like it. We didn't know what style it was. It was just like, as long as the puck stayed out of that, right? Like that was just instead of butterfly. Yeah. That's just kicked in that. That's just kicked in. That is unbelievable. What's a battle fly? Like that's he's like, no, instead of butterfly, he's just battling, but he could be butterfly. It could be. Yeah, exactly. He was so ill as I get it. No, I did it. But it's like, is there a such thing as a battle for? No, no, no, no. I don't think you put that much thought into it. You're a battle fly. Maybe Tim Thomas is going to come up. Who's, what's a battle fly? It's not a real thing. No, yeah, it's just. Fuck you. It is. I think we made it up. Yeah. So Horton scores OT, right? Yeah. And then I don't remember second round, but third round, we've said before in the show, best one, nothing game of all time against Tampa. Incredible game at home. Horton scores the winner in that, I believe. Yeah. Didn't bugs. He take a puck in the face of that. He, no, that was the finals with Pittsburgh. Okay. But, but then you get to the finals and you lose both in Vancouver and I'm in Vancouver. So good that year. Yeah. Take us through kind of like the team like on the way home and basically the fact is you just pounded them every home game that series. Like, did you guys know going in this thing is so far from being over going into game three? I think we did. I mean, so to go back to like the first round, we're down to nothing against Montreal. That was the parents' middle finger. Yeah. So like we're down to nothing heading to Montreal for game three. We lost the two. So that was wild. And so we had that we won the series. So like we had that in arm. Okay. So like, Hey, we've done it before. Like so we kind of had that speech would be like, Hey, and we did it on the road game for exactly. Now we're going home and like. So I think we had that confidence of like we've done it. And we've been through so much during like that was a wild, you know, run. I mean, all the playoff runs when you go all that all the way. It's a pretty wild and the long, you know, journey. But we went seven the first round. We won the fill in four seven again against, you know, Tampa. So like it's not like we it was an easy way there. So I think like that experience and that that knowledge of like, Hey, like it's not going to be easy. Like where we have to find ways, uh, was in our minds. And you know, we got home. Obviously it's a much better feeling than going game three. Yeah. Real, right? So like at least we're like, it's just get it's just due to job at home, stay in the moment and go from there and just beating this shit out. So the one thing, the one thing I remember from from talking to Kevin B X about that is how like confident they were until game seven at home. He said that he could sense the tightness in the locker room. Now you guys going on the road for game seven after forcing it to game seven. Like what was your guys demeanor? Were you guys like we're playing with the house's money? Were you guys were confident? Or were you guys also tight knowing that man, one game to decide whether we're Stanley Cup champions or not? No, I think it was the opposite. It was more like as school play hockey. Like it was it was a pretty cool. You had that feeling you guys, we're going to take it down. We got on a shot with one at home. Like it's kind of a little bit on the road. When you go on the road, I think the fact that we're on the road, that's crazy as it sound. Like you're with the guys and like you just have that you go for dinner tonight before. And we actually had a team dinner at the hotel. We just stayed in because like it was crazy over there and Vancouver. Oh yeah, it was wild. You know, we'd get boo that we'd like with like some restaurants didn't want to like host us for like for dinner. Like it was pretty wild, but it was it was awesome. I had the same time, you know, but that being said, we had that team dinner. And I remember sitting with Rex, Mark Recky and just seeing this demeanor of like he grabs a glass of red wine and he's like so relaxed. And I'm like, all right, you know, like this this was and then I just asked him was like if you've been in game seven of the finals before and he goes, yeah, twice. I was like and you won both. And I was like, I like that. Yeah, he was so I don't know. I just like the way that he was like and it was his last game, right? He was retiring after that. So like just to see him like yeah, just like enjoying the moment and like almost being like, hey, that's enjoyed dinner now and we're worried about the game tomorrow. Well, you know, it's pretty cool. Yeah, see a veteran who done it and be like, oh, he's he's twirling his wine glass. Rex is all on all those ends. And I'm like, both freaking out beside him. I'm like, all right, I guess that was a huge cup final too because it was the first time in a while that it was a US team versus a candidate team. And then there was all the hate with the Bruins and the canucks like burrows bit your finger. There was a lot like, I think they called them the city insisters at some point. Margie, Margie Sammy. Oh, my air and Rome hitting Horton and knocking him out of the sea. Horton poured the water on that guy. He brought a water from Boston. What was that? Did you like, did you know that was going on? No, I didn't know the water. But the hit on Hori that honestly that that poked a bear a bit like that really kind of turned the air. That was great. And the next one was like eight one, wasn't it? The guys like, we yeah, it was like almost like, all right, we're we gonna do this for Horton now, you know, like it was. And we had Timmy. Timmy stood on his head like and he had like the hit on Sadeen like one of the games. Oh, yeah, when he was looking up at the puck or something. Yeah, exactly. But having him like, you know, like his demeanor also like just always so confident. And like, would you guys ever be like, what the fuck is this guy doing? You just skated out to the blue line to hit some guy. It was almost amazing with like his competitive drive and like his will to win. And you know, he's you look at his career, man, Timmy, like he's been like through so much and he's overcome so much adversity and, you know, almost like had to prove people wrong, almost all the time, right? This to be like, all right, to eventually become like a number one goalie. And then when he was given that chance, like he freaking ran with it. Like it was pretty impressive. So like the confidence that we had, like having him having Z behind like in the back end, like our, yeah, I feel like our structure helped us also. But like Vancouver was they were wagon too. They were a good team. Like it was, it was a battle. It was I feel like Dennis Sidenberg is such an underrated. He was incredible. If he wore regular skates, son is like really good and his son apparently is a complete wagon of a human too. On these sides is a machine in the way. What I think he told me was 12 or 13. I talked to him the other day. He's like 12 or 13. He's close to 200 pounds. Get ready. Holy shit. It was like, I've got it in Boston right. Created scene at age two. So was it game six? They beat him eight one. This game, I think it was the game four. Because through a hecy fit that my dad didn't get me to get three or four were definitely in the, yeah, yeah. He's back to back. Because then they brought in Schneider, right? Was that game six? They brought in Schneider, but that must to think he came in. But that was just like during the game, right? Yeah. Started every lose started and he came in. But even going to like a game seven, where the goal is being switched, like doing that to a goal, especially a Hall of Famer, like Lou being able to get in his head. Like that's going to be a good feeling for you guys going in the seven. Yeah. And oh, for sure. I mean, I think at that point, you're, you know, you want to rack up the goals to kind of like get in the other team on the other goalies head. But that being said, you know, there are professionals. I mean, Lou's been around for a long time at that point. And yeah, we're going to win one road game. Exactly. We've lost three. Like, we're due. Yeah. And there were tight games too. You know, it weren't they weren't blowouts in Vancouver. Yeah. One of them was, I think boroughs in OT early. There's there's a note to you. So for us, things were the first one, I think, and then LaPierre had a game winner on the game two. And a third game, I'm not sure who got the game winner. Yeah, that's true. Where you were blowing them out at home. And they're close there. It's like guys were like, hey, we just have to go out and win one. And you're right. Like it's the, and I can, I can see it on from the van, the connox side where they're like, you know, like game three was eight one. Game four was four nothing. Either way, not close. Yeah, no, game six. Game six was five, too. So another, another one. That is, that is not, I mean, what an amazing run that was though. And for you, just to like CZ raised the trophy kind of an all time screaming. It just had to be just such an incredible feeling with those guys that that had done it together for a long time and we're so close to being broken up, I guess. Yeah, I know the first crew after they won that we had to go. Because it was bar story. That was because of bar stool. I helped see in my bill. That was the shit bar stool. Like just importantly, he's getting pics or a second March on second March. Yeah. You don't think got the call after two weeks. Probably go go home. Go home. I don't believe this. Yeah, it's time to go train. So I guess like, uh, Thorey got a call from, I don't know if it's cam or a swings or wherever, but like, uh, oh, back then it was Peter Sirelli, but I don't know who called Thorey, but like, hey, make sure you talk to Margin Sags and tell him to leave the town, leave the city. So I guess for us she told me that he's like, you know, I was kicked out of boss. I'm not far anymore. I would've gone another week. Remember his voice singing black and yellow. I was like, he was do he was mangled. I didn't realize he was, yeah. When I called him out on that, I was like, then he started singing. I was like, all right, let's get him off. He's blacked out again. Yeah. What was the story behind that? What was like a hundred and twenty thousand dollar tab or something, something ridiculous? Yeah. Thorey was telling us about that. And Foxwoods or he could have done it like that. Was that comped? So like, there is the bottle of, uh, of, uh, Ace of Spades, there was like 80 or 90 grand that they comped. So it's not like, yeah. Wow. Still a lot of freaking money for a party, but, um, yeah, we didn't pay. So it's, it's, it's hard because you just had such a long career. So like, we could talk more about that, but then, you know, there were some heart breaks for you. Obviously, we haven't mentioned the gold metals in tan and Vancouver and sochi. But with the Bruins, like that lockout shortened season, that was the year that it was like, this guy's playing with a punctured lung and what you went through in that heartbreak and game six loss. They got the two goals quick. Yeah. Was it true? You weren't going to play game seven. Yeah. I don't think I could have played. It was bad. That was, uh, yeah, because at that point, I was at the hospital and I, um, they had to do like that, I had that surgery on wall with the lung to get back up because I was, it was collapsed at like, how did that happen? Yeah. How did that happen? Oh, my, I broke my ribs, um, in, uh, game two or whatever. And then I kept playing and eventually like the rib punctured my lung. Uh, geez. Yeah. Who got you? I couldn't even tell you. Like, it just started from like, like a weird play. Like, uh, I think it might have been seed, seedbrook. Uh, like, it kind of, I was trying to shoot and I was off balance and try to push me and I fell on the ice and I fell awkwardly. And I think my, that's what it broke. We had a separated shoulder to it. Yeah. That was later. That was like game five. Oh, geez. Oh, my gosh. A lot of total less than this is based after one hike. Yeah. This could do the podcast with the air operation. When the rib punctured the lung did, was it like, like, or were you, did you feel that right? I don't know. Uh, it's weird. Like I felt like something poke. Yeah. Like, you know, like a sharp pain and then just went away. So I'm fine. And eventually, yeah. So Jesus. I mean, that is like, but that team was so good, man. That Chicago team was incredible. Yeah. Like that was their second, I think second. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They had a good team. I, um, it was, it was tight, though. Like it's hard to like, uh, at that point, you know, like it's anybody's game, but they, I mean, close to them, but I remember where I was. I was in Vancouver. And I was, I was like walk, walk by a bar. And they had the game on like at the, at the end. And then they went bang, bang, bang, bang. Who got the first one? Bickle and bowling? Yeah. Is it those? No bowling got memory. The chef show was like, I think bowling even like almost thought it was, he didn't think it was those gloves, like, yeah, just got the winner. What would be the winner kind of broke up the core after that, though. That's when Sagan got traded right after that. That was after that. That's what that year. Yeah. I'm not mistaken. Oh, we haven't asked about Crachy, though, who we got to do a sandbag or which great guy like playoffs performance. Oh, my God. That guy in the playoffs. It was a machine. Yeah. But it was always like, you look at Stanley Cup championship teams in Pittsburgh and it was two great sentiment. So like it was always, you know, you're never together. Unless it was power play, right? But you just knew he had his own line. You had a line. And that's kind of how you always knew he'd be ready to go in the biggest games. Yeah. I mean, he was like, I don't know. I think it's his demeanor for Crachy. Like he was always never too high or too low. He's like that for anything in life, by the way. Like he's so like laid back and such a great guy. But like, it's just talent. It's just the way that he would slow the game down. Obviously him and Luch and Horty, who was a menace on the ice, right? They were like a pretty amazing trio for a long time. So like it was it was great to have him. You know, like I said at many times, but like, obviously we were competing, you know, like being both Sanderman, playing on the same team and like in a way that competing for ice time. But we never felt it that way. We never really had that that sort of like unhealthy competition. It was always about, you know, like, you know, they would have a good moment, a good game. And I was always extremely happy for him by his verse. Like, Crachy was always great with me and always a lot of respect for each other. And I think that helped also like kind of for the rest of the team to realize that, you know, like we can all be, you know, ourselves and be successful and individually. And like that's going to as long as we're like bringing it collectively. And I think that that's spoke volume for the rest of the guys that, you know, like don't they're not big. They're not playing about exactly like what you're not getting or what you want. And it's more, it's always about, you know, the team. And Crachy was really good with that throughout this career. He was always taking whatever ice time in whatever minutes that he was getting and making the most of it. And always respected that. And he was an amazing teammate and obviously player. Just like, I'm sure you don't want to talk about yourself that much. But like, I think you bark of copetare like these 200 foot players that just do everything right. But also if you guys wanted to, you could have had a hundred points every year. If you just cheated the game like some guys do a little bit. But what's kind of like you're in even with Crachy learning from you? What was kind of like you're going into a season for you to have a good year? Was it a certain amount of points? I wanted to be the best offensive player because he did bolt so well. Yeah, that's a good question. I never really set like goals for myself as far as like points or statistics. I think I was always trying to worry about, you know, the team's success. And like, that's how I would like, I guess rate my game, you know, and I always felt like I wanted to bring more to anyways. I always want to improve and like, felt like there's always, you know, another level to get to or like other players that you're like, oh my god, you know, they're able to do this. That's try to work on that or this. So like, you know, I've, there's maybe based on my overall game. Like if I was able to be strong on the face off, it was all, to me, like, it was all, it's always been a game of details. Yep. And if my details were good, like, the rest was taking care of itself. And like the junior coach almost said, yeah, right? Yeah, it goes back a long way. Yeah, wild because like, if you think about it, sometimes like, you know, like you're, you're not scoring for like five, six, seven games. And now that's when you're being asked about it. And that's when it gets in your head a little bit more, you know, like I think like it's, it's one of those things where if you think about the end result and you think about scoring goals, you're never really going to get there because you don't take care of your details. But if you always worry about your details, winning a face off, making it, you know, getting the puck out when it's time to get the puck out, giving, making a nice pass, when it's time we're shooting what's, you know, you're always going to eventually or have a good forecheck eventually you're going to be in the right place at the right time because the puck's going to find you because you're, you know, doing the right things, right? So like, I feel like that's that's something that I've always kind of preached was for me to take care of my details and the rest of my game will follow and and and it's more the collective side where like, you know, I wanted to make sure our PK was good or face offs, you know, that's for my team. Like, I want to make sure, like, I'm effective for them. Like, so that was how I would rate my, my game for the most part. If you don't, if you don't, probably young kids for sure to hear, right? Oh, for sure. So much put into stats and the money and I get it and you understand like where they're coming from, but it's like, God, there's going to be a lot of kids who have to become different type players play for a long time. You know, it's funny too. I think like it's when like, around the years, that like, 2011, those years when we had those guys that, you know, as I said, the, the glue guys and the guys, you know, that that really bought in the things that we would say that the young guys was, you know, if you win, no matter what your role is, you're buying yourself like another four or five years of your career, instead of like thinking about the individual stuff and like maybe scoring 20 and then I'll get a better contract. Think about like winning with your team and doing whatever takes the, and I think like the Panthers is a good example, right? Got a AJ Greer and these guys are like, came in and let, you know, played tremendous minutes at the end and like really were effective. Now there's headlines. AJ Greer is going to free agency. Like when they, if he hasn't played for the floor, like Aaron McCarran, yeah, like just like, yeah, any type of success. Yeah, like almost all the sudden, the rest of your career, it's like, hey, we're bringing in a cup champ at the deadline. Exactly. And a gamer and a guy that's successful when in the chips, you know, the games on the line. Yeah. Yeah. Were you a big video guy? Would you watch video after games to like study more and more or were you just more about just going back on the ice and applying the stuff. - I was watching my shifts by the end of my career, like a little bit more. I felt like I was a pretty instinctual guy, like I was trying to like, I knew if I had a good game or a bad game, there's games that I didn't want to watch. But like I think for the details, and you know, like there's things that I, you know, face-offs was really something I was using a lot in the video. But yeah, for like I couldn't stand the iPad, on the bench, like for me, I feel like it takes away my instinct. And like, listen, like I was on the ice. This is how I saw it. Like even if you show me like from like, it's an old motion and I'm like, or like it's already going to come. - And you're in your, and you're now, you're like, you're in your own head about the last shift as opposed to letting it go. - Yeah, yeah. I think like this, well this was open maybe, but it's hockey, like it's not like football where you have to run your routes. Like in hockey, like the next shift is not going to be the same. The positioning is going to be different. The guys won't be in the same area. Like, so like you have to read and react and like use your instinct for the most part. So I get, you know, the video and like the iPad and it could be helpful once in a while. But to me, it's like, to a bare minimum. Like, I mean, I don't want to bash anyone that does it. It's more for myself. It didn't work, I guess. - I kind of wish we started with 13 and 19 and finished with 11, but like obviously 2019. - Here's your sit-check. - It's sandwich. There's so much that went into that though. I mean, like you, you wrote St. Louis in Game 6, right? And you're going back home. Big Z's got the broken jaw, which must have fired you guys up so much. He's playing with a bubble on. He's got a broken jaw, many, like a lot of Z-talk right now, I guess with Braden McNabb. - Yeah. - Kind of take us through that game and that year, I guess, because I remember it was the conference finals. I was on a golf trip. You swept Carolina, right? - You swept Carolina, right? - Yeah. (laughs) - Needed Rex coming back. - Yeah, we sure did. - Yeah. - Should have been on the road, I guess. - Yeah, should have been on the road, no? - Yeah. - No, I mean, first of all, the season was awesome. It was a great year, it was a lot of fun. That run was, was special, as you said. We swept Carolina and honestly, like, and you know, we lost Ferrin Square, but like to have that big break was maybe not the greatest thing for us. We were, you know, on the road, you have the momentum going, then you have like 10 or 11 days, and I was like, at the time it's like, it's not as good as you can rest, but also it's a long time in between, you know, series, but that being said, one of your game seven doesn't matter, you've played six before, so you should be ready. Obviously, we, you know, like we, we didn't just in play, which then, you know, we had a good start of that game. - Great start of that game. - We should have scored a couple actually, Bennington stood on his head, made some great saves, and I think that kind of took, that first goal obviously took the win out of us, and then we couldn't really recover, and that was it. So, I mean, obviously if we score, you try to get it back, sometimes you look back, I mean, I said that many times, I think like, of course, like the championships and, you know, the things that you're able to accomplish as a team, you know, that's what you look back and you appreciate, but the losses, they hurt, like, it's hard to, you know, to go through that, so it's obviously still something that is a sensitive subject, but like, at the same time, at the, you have to be proud of what you've accomplished still as a team and to get all the way there, and-- - Like hurts more than like almost a winning fight. - Yeah, yeah. - Well, you try to think a little bit about legacy too, imagine being able to bring the Boston Bruins to Stanley Cups, like, you know, maybe not you, 'cause the person you are, but my mind would have wandered a little bit being like, fuck, Crossview was able to get three of them, you know, like, yeah, yeah, those types of guys, and I put you in that category, so to get there and to be so close, but, hey, at least you get to say you won one of the two game seven of the Stanley Cups finals you've been-- - Legacy's just fine embossed, like, we fucking love you. I would take a bullet for it, you need someone killed, I'm your guy, like, we would do anything for you. - He said that to Brady too, so he's got two guys, he could go to jail for war, but when you shut it down, and this is fast forward a couple of years, like, the hug with Marshawn, I didn't think you were retiring, you knew though, huh? - Yeah, I knew. - You better kept, you weren't, you were still there. - Yeah, I mean, I'm coming back next year anyways. (laughing) Vegas will take you. - Oh, yeah. - No, but mentally? - Yeah, I think it was, yeah, I was at peace with, like, everything I did, the experiences I've had, I think my body was obviously by the end kind of getting, I herniated my disc a couple of years before my last year, then I did it again before the playoffs, like, there was a lot of signs of, like, overused, you know, like the hips and all that, and it's not that it wasn't, like, I still could have played, for sure, but like, I also looked at my kids, and I was like, I actually wanna run with them, now I wanna, you know, grow up and them to grow up and have me around and be able to actually play, and, you know, and be able to be active. So, that was part of what, eight and under at that point. - Yeah. - I think he was seven, my oldest, so yeah. And I think, yeah, I think mentally I was there, I had a great career, and so there was not one reason, really, why I did it, it was more. - Had you told the guys before that game? - No. - Okay. - I said, I told the guys, I never, I guess I told Marsh, you got told, like, a lot of guys I knew from even the start of the year. If we go back to the summer, I called Cretch to come back, 'cause I wanted him, 'cause it was my, I told him, - Wow. - Here, yeah. - And do you think that that, like, had influence on his decision to come back over? - I don't know. - Back. - I hope so. Patrice Berger, I'm collagen, so if you gotta come back, 'cause I'm on the next flight. - Yeah. - So you was on a track, 'cause of the bagger. - He played in the check. I mean, he came back, he had 56.70 games. - Oh, wow, this is that. - He played in the check league year before, and I spoke to him that summer. I said, hey, what are your thoughts? He said, I don't know, I might play one more year in the check league and call it. I was like, all right, I think this might be my last year. How about, like, one more? - Sick for you, one more, like, and we go for one more, we'll have a good team, like, let's do one more run. And he was like, all right, let me talk. And so I think he talked to his wife and like, he thought about it for a few days, and then, yeah, he said. - And then you talked to Don, you said Don, I'm gonna call him. Like, is it right? Like, you had to kind of. - Yeah, well, at first, no. At first, I was more like, so I told Swings, I was like, I wanna come back for one more. And then I was kinda asking what's the situation with Krabs. He was like, well, I don't know, I haven't really spoken to him. And yeah, that was kinda it. And then I was like, I'm just gonna call him. - And then you guys win the president's trophy and have the best regular season of all time. - Yeah, I know. - So there was no truth to you wanting to retire to pursue your acting career, 'cause I heard you used to make, he used to make these videos making fun of the guys. I heard they were incredible. - Stayed underground though? - Apparently. - Bruce Cassidy told me you're in a movie that's coming out. - I am in a movie. Yeah. - What are we gonna do? - This is your, you're gonna be the new Camelie Seabass for the bounce. - No, I mean, it's definitely not. I don't think it's gonna be quite as, you know, something to your remember for the rest of your life. Like Seabass, like his line, I still remember his lines. I actually from that movie, but my line is last remarkable. But yeah, I was in a movie called Driver's Ed. And I think it's out now. It's on Amazon Prime. Thanks for the, thanks, Mike. Check that out. - Thanks a lot. - You know, he's making a body. - Oh, go ahead, sir. - No, I was gonna say, I'm at the beginning of the movie too. So we're just kind of wild. So when I cringed when I saw myself, I was like, oh my God, what am I doing there? Well, what were these videos you made making fun of the guys? - Yeah, so that was, so Rookie Party, we used to make like, you know, we have the, as we all know, like the Rookie's trying to make him have him make a skit or a stinger song. And I was before one of the Rookie parties at some point. I was with Mars, she had dinner. I was like, what if like, us, we even do something. Like what if like us, like the older guys, like we come up with something and like, just chirp like the team. And he was like, oh, that'd be sick. Well, then he was like, how are we gonna do that? I was like, let's just make a video like and just like, keep it on the wraps. And then at a Rookie Party, like just when the guys are, if you cocktail's deep, like it was just like, put it on TV, like at dinner and then like, it was a big hit that first year. And then we just carried out on after that. - Did you give it to the most in those? - So we do everyone. So everyone had, you had to like do something for everyone almost basically. And it kind of like, it's almost got to be like, do something for Bizz. I'd be pretending I was Bizz doing some of the like, the rituals that he does. - Oh, okay. - Pick it up on some of like being observant of like the guys and observing what they do around the locker room and for guys to like, understand who I am and then kind of like, make fun of that basically. - In a good way, like, and it fun. - We kept you a while. - Can I just ask one more? - Yes, sure. - So I asked Tom Brady the same question. And I gotta ask you like, you've meant so much to me, the people of Boston for 20 years now. Do you have any message to them? - Well, I mean, I think it's, I feel the same way. [BLANK_AUDIO] I was welcomed here when I was 18 years old and it was a pretty special run. I mean, there's a reason why I'm still here and living here with my family. My kids were born here and I call Boston home and it's been special. I think it really means a lot every time I'm able to have a conversation with someone. So one is on the street as kind of shakes my hand and talk about what hockey has met the dam and what the Bruins has met the dam and it's always very special. I mean, sometimes it's kind of too really. You don't really think about it all that much but then it's always very special. And yeah, it's due to my heart. I mean, obviously the people have been awesome for all my time here and it's been welcoming with open arms even though I couldn't speak English back then. It was cool. It's been a great journey. It's been so much fun and that's why it's so special to be a Bruin. And just a funny story for you quick. So my dad used to have season tickets down below like right behind the net. And I think it had to be 2007, maybe 2008. He was like, we're going to move to first row balcony right behind where the Bruins sit, right behind where the Bruins shoot twice. Great sea. So you can learn Patrice Bergeron's game. So all me and my three brothers, every game we'd sit there and you'd be like, I saw Patrice Bergeron watch this kid's little smoke before the game. Oh yeah. Didn't work great for me. But it's crazy that like you had such an impact on Boston where my dad would move our season tickets up to the balcony just because it was better to watch like how you develop the play. So that's what thank you. That means a lot. That's that's awesome. You did mention fate. My last you mentioned face off the lot. Is there anyone who owned you? Anyone you have time with? There's a lot of guys. I think like like kind of kind of a good number on the turtle neck. Yeah. Sid was Sid was a. Could he cheat more? Could certain guys cheat a little bit? But I can't really talk about that because I feel like I was cheating as well. Yeah. But if any guys when you win the cell like I won the soky every year. No one gave me a hard time. No, I don't know. Without it. Like Sid was was was obviously like we had some great battles. Jordan Stahl was really good. He's a four. Yeah. He's so big Paul Gostad. He was oh, yeah, he was a. He was getting so low. He was strong. He was a good player. Good on draws. Yannick Perot. He was really good. Yeah. Well, my first couple of years, I definitely a lot of guys dusted their views in you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I got I got one more. Um, so you guys win the president's trophy. Marsha. I'm never forget. I think he had a break away to end that series against Florida. And then fast forward a year later when you see that he gets traded there like at like four o'clock an hour past the deadline. Were you in shock or were you aware like were you made aware that that was coming? Uh, yeah, I was, I was in shock. I wasn't, uh, I wasn't sure like I was kind of like, I feel like Mars. She's been, you know, drafted with the Bruins. It was pretty much a staple for for the bees and a face of the franchise. So for the same time, like, you look back, it's like, you know, it gives them an extra cup and I know, you know, the way that he played other six years. Yeah. Six years. Like, he was more shocked that he saw six years, he'll come over the bucket. Yeah, I think he was still writing that, uh, that high of winning when he signed that six years. He's like, I can play six more. Why not? Well, thank you so much. And you have a documentary coming out as well. Oh, really? Is that true? Do I? No. Oh, I, this is it. Oh, oh, oh, sorry. It was the, it said Patrice doc as in like, we had a document for questions. I thought, maybe, I thought, yes, he also thought that Leon Dry said it was coming out of the Cologne because he Googled on me from Cologne, Germany. So thank you so much, Patrice, unreal guy, unreal player. Great. Do you have any questions for us? I don't know if I do. I didn't, came prepared. No. We can wait. Hey, uh, you live with Marty La Point. Does he have more scars on his face or do you, um, is he the one that has the, the, it doesn't you have a crazy nose? No, Marty's actually like, he's jacked and he's like, he looks like bird, yeah. Like that. Okay. Maybe I'm thinking of the wrong guy, then who was the guy who played in Philadelphia who used a scrappy guy? Was it another La Point? Oh, you're thinking of, um, what you know, you're, no, you're thinking of, um, oh my god, a little tough guy, uh, ran around. Filly. Oh, this gonna drive. He's the point. He's got the white beard. Oh, yeah. Yeah. What the hell is his life here? Yeah. Yeah. He had a lot of scars. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like, I was watching you, uh, you know, that game that, um, prospect game, yeah, like you hit pool yacht. You killed. No, that was beyond. Was it not? Oh, you went in. And I thought you're right. You're right. Yeah, that's right. So I remember that. That's, that's the one thing I do remember, uh, about you. It was like a pool yacht agent came in the locker room after and it was like, thank you so much for doing that. Yeah. That guy should never play hockey. So you weren't playing in the game and he was, but I was the MVP of the game. I scored because Don Cherry gave it out and like the rock I saw, no, I scored on flurry. No. But you did it for yourself. I believe in that. Like, you had a game. I had a game, brother. Yeah. I was at any fart five months later as an 18 year old defenseman, Dan spoke to six seven. Let's keep talking about my, my own. I was supposed to be Patrice Bergeron. I was supposed to be Steve on the camp. Hell happened. It's a good surprise for you, Patrice. I was at fifth round draft pick in junior. Oh, that's a wrap. Thank you very much. Thank you guys. Thanks for having me. Guys, I'm going to be honest with you. I don't usually get excited about loyalty programs. They promised the big rewards and then it's like you actually have to eat 48 pizzas to get one free. They're always a little, they're always a little sketchy. So when I heard about the Shell fuel rewards program, I was skeptical, shocking. I know me being skeptical, but here's the thing. It's actually kind of annoyingly practical. You're already getting gas. You're already grab and take out. You're already buying snacks. You definitely didn't need, but you absolutely deserve. And with Shell fuel rewards, you just get rewarded for all of that and not in a fake points. You'll never use type thing. It's actually saving on gas and the part that got me the saving stack. It's not like one sad little discount. You fill it up, you eat, you shop and it all piles into real savings at the pump. Joining takes less than three minutes in the shell app and you'll save on every fill after that. Literally every single one. So if you want my wreck, join the shelf, you rewards program and save. Alright guys, draft Kings. If you're a draft Kings person and you're a slot fan, the weight is over lightning link is available online for the first time ever. And draft Kings Casino has it, in fact, draft Kings Casino is your home of the lightning link. New Casino players can play five bucks and get 1,000 spins, including 500 lightning link spins. That's 50 spins a day at varying values for your first 20 days. Strike now to claim your offer, download the draft Kings Casino app and sign up with code chicklets, CHIC, LETS, then spin lightning link high stakes anywhere anytime the crown is yours in partnership with draft Kings Casino. Gambling problem called 1-800-GAMBLER. In Connecticut, help is available for a problem gambling called 888-7897777 or visit ccpg.org. Please play responsibly. 21 and over, physically present in Connecticut, Michigan, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, West Virginia only. Void and Ontario. Eligibility restrictions apply. Non-withdrawable spins issued as 50 spins per day for 20 days valid for select games only in expire each day after 24 hours. DC Terms at Casino.DraftKings.com/promos and July 22nd at 1159 PM Eastern time. Thank you, Patrice. I'll tell you one thing he's not doing is hammering Apple strutals the way business right now. I'm born. You know, I don't think that that that's a part of his diet. Look at you. I would take a zippers. I mean, I like yoli for another one. It's some just fell out of his mouth. Scale of one to 10 biz one to 10. How is it? A zippers with food falling out of your mouth. Let's bring it all right. Let's bring it up. Let's bring in our guy right now. Hello, everybody welcome to Ari's world here in the Spitton Chicklets podcast. What's going on, boys? We absolutely hate this humidity with dog. I would rather put a snow out my door than this humidity. That is the easiest thing I've ever heard. It's not even that hot either, but I'm talking even if it was worse than this snow, you'd rather have a seat. I do, but it's just like I went outside a few minutes ago. The muggyness, just the stickiness I don't I just I much prefer the width of the sun. I know I'm in the might already, but glad to see you boys did get to to the Odyssey. I went for round two the other night myself. But when you were getting to talk about the crowd, I thought you were going to talk about the audience in the theater. Was there any things that would violate my my Zeus's loss in a movie theater? Yeah, I did actually I probably should have mentioned this that. So we had, you know, the assigned seats, right? You buy your seats. We get in there. And like I said, we were a couple minutes late and we so there's the two seats on the aisle and then we're the next two in. We sit down, breeze right next to somebody, she's like, Hey, like, are those empty? I'm like, yeah, I mean, like we're late. So she just moved over one. So I took one of their seats and she had one of ours. Well, sure, she had about 10 minutes later, the people coming, buddy, I had the popcorn resting on my belly. I had Lucy here, I had my phone over here, I had the peanut on my knee. And I'm like, oh, sorry, sorry. I'm like, grab all this stuff. And then she's, but she was wicked cool. She's like, no worries, I would have done the same thing. And I'm like, getting over like some of the popcorn smells like, oh, no, I'm like, buddy, I'm holding four things, two in each hand. And then I'm like, hey, sorry, is my phone there? I think I think might be saying my phone. And she's like, no, and then she's checking. And like her husband's like, looking over. And then I see my phone's in my hand, dude. So I was completely disaster. The people next to us and behind me were probably, if it was, if it was you are, are you mind it? Like, attacked me. And I had my screen on. I had a full brightness in right in her lap. Cause that they're still selling it. I went to a college corner the other night. And I mean, you know, there's very few empty seats there on a Sunday night, which is just so real. There's no monster jam near there in their college corner. Yeah, definitely didn't have that. But, you know, I don't, I think you cannot go to the theater and have it at least one pack ahead. Right behind us, classic, you know, shit head boomers. Like, there was an old Eddie Murphy stand up. And he talks about like people talking in the theater. Like, specifically like a woman asking her husband or her boyfriend what's going on. This woman asked every fucking five minutes. Like, which, it's like, watch the fucking movie. That's the plot they're going to tell you the whole time. And like, you turn around and you stare at them. That, because you don't want to say nothing. Again, draw attention and disturb other people. And they, it didn't stop the whole time. Like one, one scene is like, dude, he's standing up in the movie. One of the characters, she's like, he's dead. And I was like, no, it's like a fucking watch. Oh, it was infuriating. So afterwards, I walked by and I go, buddy, you should do like the talk a lot. I started a movie, man, I just go and like, oh, the mitts. You gave it to the guy's wife, you gave it to the guy's wife. I said, well, I said it to him because like, you know, he, he's just answering the lady. Like, yeah, but we've all been there. Incessant, a whole fucking movie. Like, every one of you call her out. Every plot point, it's like that, you, that's why you watch the movie. It explains itself. But before that, like, you know, like, and these are my roles. These are the theaters. No talking, check your phone off the typical rules. Dude in front of us. I picked his phone up. Now, I level just literally that the studio credits are coming up at the beginning of the movie. He's got his, I'm like, oh, he's probably going to shut off. He's holding it. It's a, there's a game there. It's like not even the screen. And I was like, bro, can you put that phone down, please? Oh, it's funny. Next to him, snaps his head back. Here's me to fucking Manson Lips. And I was like, what is that? What's the Manson Lips? Like, that's a surprise line. We try to give you the crazy eyes. You know, he said, oh, oh, he said Prado says that's why I'm, oh God, the fucking richie of real. You give me those Manson Lips, like he tries to, you know, give you the bug. I was like, what? I was like, I asked him to put his phone down. And I just like, buddy, you know what I mean? He turned around. That was it. They didn't pull the phone off of. Are you solo? Aray is just on edge walking in there. You should actually be hired by theaters. Yeah, you should be. Theater police. You're like the by plane police, like, Avery is to the movie theater. But it's just, you know, it's, it's annoying. It's gotten worse. I mean, I stopped going to the movies for years because I figured I'm going to get fucking shot one of these days because, and again, it's not my, what a way to go to the world. Yeah. You went that way. Yeah. Like what happened? Like he said the wrong thing to the wrong guy at, uh, uh, uh, creed seven. Yeah. At 40th, the anniversary of the theater was playing solitaire before the Odyssey and just Aray said the wrong game on his phone. It was watching a game. I don't know. It was no lot like a sports team. Like, I don't even know. You've watched a monster truck, but like, he was just sort of whole that day. It wasn't like he was shot off of the main screen and he didn't turn out his, but his body did. And I said, I said, please, I just said, hey, bro, can you put your phone down, please? Like, you know, I didn't. Yeah. He's watching the, the grave digger on the live stream from Gillette truck a tourist. Uh, man, Glendon's not playing. I don't want to do something in the theater as soon as the screen goes, hey, everybody, make sure your phones are off. They give you the whole. Yeah. Okay. Aray. Hello. Everybody shut your phone up. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's, that's the thing. It's like they tie that and it used to be common sense, but, uh, you know, everybody fucking so with this and, and it's not picking on young kids. It's just entitled people in society. Again, the boomers are as bad as fuck. Anyway, I can start to see why the millennials can't stand the boomers. That's like the biggest rivalry on the Internet. They should be the next Odyssey movie is like a millennium versus boomers and like, that whole, the war, the war of the millennials. Yeah. I also went to show Friday. I saw this one. The invite with Olivia Wilde. It was awesome. Unbelievable. Funny. Funny as fucking movies. You heard of it is that it's getting rave reviews. Seth Rogan. It's just four of them. And I think all of it takes place in an apartment, right? Yeah. Seth Rogan and Olivia Wilde. There, uh, Mrs. married, miserable couple. I guess that might be redundant. But they invite to upstairs. This name is now for dinner and would go out and in Penelope Cruz who still looks phenomenal. And basically like, hilarity ensues. I wouldn't want to spoil anything legit. Piss your pants laughing. There was like two other people in the theater being afterwards. We were like, we were like, well, kind of all laughed at the same shit. We were like talking to them. Total stranger. I think it was that was funny. I thought they like it was. There's a couple like serious moments in it, but Olivia Wilde and I didn't know she was this funny. He heard Rogan. They were like, like, like, Abbott and Costello, like they're like the banter, like I repotted. They had like the comedic lines and the writing was awesome. Legit hilarious. Yeah. If he thinks that great with the old lady, I wouldn't maybe recommend going to see it with that with her. Or you should because I don't think it could be Penelope Cruz and, uh, and Edward Norton, like, are they telling them to like getting a like group sex and shit? I don't. I, uh, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I don't know. I don't know. I don't want to spoil any parts of the movie. That's why I took, I left it vague. But there are a much more chill couple and they kind of like just kind of getting this conversation. But legit. I don't know how much of it might have been improv because some of the lines that like Rogan come up, comes up with, but hilarious. Go see it. If you look at for an absolute name of it, it's called the invite, any, uh, any bad behavior people in that show, uh, no, that, uh, there was three of us in there because I, I went Friday. I'm at Nate over at the guy in front of the guy. So it was only three of us there. So what's it? I didn't have to brawl it to ladies in front of me. But highly recommend that, uh, moving along to, well, sort of hockey related. Did you see this quote from the vent kuva mayor? I tweeted. Oh my god. I saw this on the group chat. This, I, I'm so happy you brought this up. I, I couldn't believe it. This guy. Yeah. He was asked, uh, something of the interview. He says, as a fan, I want to see the connects have an exciting run and make it to the Stanley Cup finals. His word, not mine. And hopefully win in game seven and over time. As the mayor of Vancouver, I do not want them to play a single game in the playoffs because the stress that it causes for safety. What the fuck are you talking about, bro? You're the mayor of a Canadian city with a team like, even if you went game seven, that's like at least 12 games you're going to have in your city. Man's and man's of dollars dumped in that people, you know, wait for your spots and so many people made money and you're worried about safety, which obviously Vancouver has a riot history. That's what you're fucking law enforcement professionals apply. You've already had a few of them. You, you know, call them monkeys. You can, you know, it's a huge deterrent. What we've had. I agree with you. I agree with you. Just put a couple speed bumps in yeah, that's how you stop them. That's how you slow them down. Well, that's not going to create safety. It's going to create havoc when we've had, you know, the red socks on your body, there's not enough. There's not enough people at the hospitals to take, take up all those people coming to sell apples, fruitles everywhere, just everywhere. You put a couple of like garrisons of cops out there and that's a huge deterrent. So I know I just thought was like a foolish thing for a male again of a Canadian NHL city to say safety, dude, I don't know, the last riot actually was what 15 years ago shut up. Pro ones. The other one is, is they are not going to make it to the extent they want to become calls. Yeah. It'll be AI riot by the time they get back to the, we got a better chance of making it to the finals of the trickle's cop. Yeah. But I was actually reading up on the history of riots in Vancouver, the last riot prior to the 94 one, 1972, a little bit called the Rolling Stones are in town. I guess there was a big riot. They got arrested, arrested a bunch of people, also Tumuah, the 66 great cup the night before the Saskatchewan Rough Riders were playing the Ottawa Rough Riders. Those are big. I love that they had the same name. The same name. 18 more right? 18 June. 18 more. And then the 63 great cup BC Lions lost a Hamilton. There was another, another ride. So yeah, Vincoum is going to see the Hamilton Lions. Substantial. Is there a Hamilton? No, another Tiger cats. Another, another line, another cat of the jungle. And speaking of things that can't get out of their own way, the WNBA man, they, they just, they finally kind of got to this level. They've been scratching it in carren for ages to get to. And then the, the video, I don't know if you saw it with page buckets like AK, M&M, an angel Reese, they made a, a video of making a bet on the yaw style game and they have like legit cash paper. And the league fucking put shaded on their own Instagram. Now, I don't know if they would joke. It was fun. But the way gambling is the way leagues are so sensitive about the fact that they made this video. And they only tweeted it. I'll put it on Instagram. Whatever. It's absolutely bit in is because there's so much regulation. The last thing you want to even like joke about this day and age is having players in your league make, make them bets on stuff. So the WNBA, they took it down and they out are the players, we do. The players didn't then they reposted it. Yeah. The WNBA posted it. Their official account. What's up is? I haven't been following. There's been other shit that's been going on too. Like, there still seems like to be a Katelyn Clark issue. Like, why can't they figure out Dave's always talking about it and how like the, I don't know, there seems to be like a still a Katelyn Clark problem. I don't know how to treat the league seems the league seems like it's like they get all they get her coming in and and all you never see good headlines about the league. They got the other player. What is it so we got a hand. So she's like talking like trans and like women be only women could play women's sports. Then that's a story and other plates are getting asked about that. It's like I thought that it was all about like the league was getting better at basketball and the ratings were going up like why is all your story here or see any of the basketball. No, she's all the bullshit. Yeah, but she did an interview at ESPN and you know she gave her opinion and then it became this firestorm and like like what you said, these these cows are playing basketball and you got these reporters who do have agendas and they're asking like the same question over and over. It's like you don't see this in any other league like just just move on you can disagree with her but you know and then owner of the Seattle team. There were two girls obviously someone hooked them up with front row seats and you know they had you know shirts support and Sophie in some way and the owner of Seattle and over. I'm like I costed these like teenage girls like you know talking shit to them. It's like craziness. So they suspended the owner whatever the hell that means like another fan spit on another fan. Like it's just like I said they they and I don't watch much w NBA but I was kind of high level. Can you get the score and buying the pack in the cell. Can you get the scores on ESPN dot com array. Yeah, if you can't get the NHL final scores on there, but they don't get this discipline yet. Here's what they said the w NBA. We'll use this as an opportunity to reemphasize the players involved of a wager and I've joking about wager on games. They basically just like didn't take any rap part like they're not going to get in trouble. I'm not saying they should but any other league of two players did that. I mean look what happens to our body in Ottawa. He didn't do anything illegal in last but half a season a couple years back. Oh so I don't just like to say it's crazy. This lead they finally get somewhere and it kind of pissed it all away. You're talking about the Pinto Parley. Pinto Parley was a hilarious storyline and what made it great when we had them on. The kid just laughs at everything. I love Pinto Parley. I'm a big Pinto Parley fan. That guy didn't give a shit. Here was the quote. I was like, yeah, we recognize that the post missed the mock removed it shortly and addressed the bad. It's like, honestly, I don't just to not have the will of all the force. I know that that was going to be a shit job from the from the job. But either way, did you guys see this post from my buddy St. Louis? No. He said I speak into an NHL exec. He suggests if a player negotiates a no trade or no move clause in their contract, then request to be traded prior to the expiration of the deal. The NTC should be voided and the team should be allowed to trade the player to any team in the league. That has to be the most boomer executive take from NHL guy. Yeah, what's their punishment if you ask a guy to wave his no move because you want to trade him. Exactly. Exactly. It's like, I mean, I know it's just like a mentality. I don't I'm assuming it was probably a guy on the oversight, but that's been in his man. It's like a CBA. You guys negotiated, it's all it's all in the laws that, you know, if you don't like what a guy's doing fine, but if they're doing it by the bookbats to say like, oh, you lose your rights and we could trade you anyway. Although this it would jazz the league up a little bit, I suppose, right? So I was just asked you guys, would you be okay seeing less like a rule in enforcing less no move and no trade clauses? I would be okay. I would be okay or understand if at one point the league in the next CBA was like, it's max limiting teams. It's max three a team. I would get that. Yeah. That'll be what's next like the legal want that next and they'll probably get it and how many? My guess would be like five per team you can get, but I don't know. I hope everybody gets one. Like from the player side of it, like I get it like it's ruthless. It's cutthroat. You don't want to get traded your families to deal with from a fan element. It's kind of like, oh, fuck all these like sick trades are getting nicks because of these these no move clauses. And I think that did they not say like 60% how what percentage of players now have them to some degree in their contracts? Wasn't it like over 50% of guys now? Really? Out of entry level contracts. 50% of the league has no move clauses. I don't even know like a modified no trade or a certain amount of team some type. Yeah, I think progressively it's gone up. Maybe it's a breach like 37% or something, but they have a they had a chart of year over year. How much it's gone up? 80 50s and over over exaggeration, but obviously entry level players can't have them in their deals. Kind of crazy here. So just across different leagues, the NFL eight no move clauses, the NBA two no move clauses. The MLB 35 no move clauses, the NHL 245 no move clauses. And there's what 700 players in the league. So they're they're they're gone in for this and they just redid the CBA. So that it's going to be a while before it can get changed. Wait, did you see the clip of that? The woman's golf a Charlie how the prank she played on her caddy? Did you hear that? Yeah, I didn't love it. I didn't love that. That's what talking about. That's a puzzle. Keith is this woman Charlie Hall, who's she's the one who rips it. Yeah, rips starts. It's unbelievable. And she somehow faked. She she faked that her caddy won $100,000, $100,000. A fake scratch ticket, one of those like fake scratch tickets that, you know, makes someone think they want. Sorry, we're good. No, no. Like you brought it up. Yeah. Imagine he's like, you mother fucker now. The next one. It's first to you. The next major. She's got a fucking exploding ball. Ha, ha, fuck it. Funny ain't it, cunt. She stepped on it. She stepped on his speed bump. Kissing. That's eight inches. Word, I guess. Yeah, Keith. It's one of those you can probably buy the joke shop. You know, it's a it's a fake ticket and people think they want, but it was her caddy. I mean, it's probably makes anyway from what a 50 to 100 times more dough. It just just seemed like like punch it down. This guy was running around. He thought he won like $100,000. And one thing he's doing to your boys, Boston balls and ha ha. That's, you know, that's whatever. A prank amongst the fellas. But I thought it was, I thought it was kind of a low blow blow. She said, oh, he didn't care. And maybe he didn't, man. But I thought I was kind of cringed up. Actually, but you're gross. Posted it. Maybe they do pranks on each other all the time. And that's just part of their relationship. Yeah, true. Probably should have said that in the press conference room. Yeah. Instead, he's like suck on that one. You win shit. And I'm a time he makes a triple. He's he's looking for ball in the back. Three cups out to the left. Her punishment. She's got to like ride, ride with me in the coffee. 18 holes exploding cigarette. Next one. Yeah. No. Just telling her next round all about the stars in the galaxy, like a granite links with Iql. Oh, I can't wait for Vermont next week. Ben Stage is involved. Right. I don't know if you saw it. I'll put all the Netflix to decide a whole murders doctor here on Netflix. This cigarette tastes funny. Yeah. I put crystal meth in it. Thanks for the scratch. 58. Just a little penis like the thing. It finishes around in an hour. Yeah. I'm usually a murder guy. Murder. Murder. I murder porn as they call it. There's so many of them. And I don't know. It's depressing. But I did watch that. That I had a whole murders one. Like I said here on Netflix. And I mean, I didn't really fall that case because it was such a gruesome thing when those four college kids got killed. But I watched it. I, you know, between the basic. If you watch this and think this like lose an insult, didn't kill these people. You're brain dead. And you should probably log off. So that's my guy Jeff. And I do. He's like, oh, let's debate this. I was like, oh, like how like you really think he, he put like a laundry list of reasons. He thought so he literally just DM you on Twitter. He wants to do his spaces later to have a debate about the conviction of this like cycle path. You're in a debate mode right now. So I think you should do it. Yeah. I don't even want to watch that because that story is so horrific. It's too sad. It's too bad. It's too sad when I watched it. And it's like sometimes like I just a documentary doesn't need to be made about everything. And this one, it was too soon. Like I'm watching it. And it's like these kids are still healing from this. The best friends, the kids who were next door, like there's so many things that are still like ongoing issues that these kids are clearly dealing with. And I don't know. I just don't think this documentary is what you're what you're the murders. I leave it was around 2021 or 2022. Oh, yeah. So did they not find the guy? No, no, they got them and they got them like a million different ways. He like, didn't he leave the sheet there for a knife and then they pinged his cell phone. They had all these ring cameras. It's like. Just taking classes like studying serial killers like it's he was like, this was months and months and months of planning. They have every step. If I couldn't agree more with your tweet, R.A., like if you don't think this fucking idiot did it, you are a moral. Is that the premise of the documentary to get you to maybe second guests? No. No. Okay. They definitely early on because you know, they want you to watch all three apps. Like, you know, sort of bring something up that might have, but then they make it clear that does press that not to do it. And then when they build the case with this guy, you just like honestly, gee, like when his face come up on the screen, I was turning, I was turning my face away. He just like such, such a creep like he had like what they say, he had like eight contacts in his phone. Like when they went. Yeah. I mean, just speaking about how he ran by the room of the one girl and made an eye phone. Yeah. Brutal stuff, but easy. Well, eight contacts like only eight numbers. Yeah. whole phone. Well, I, well, I, from one set, I talked to another, I was gonna make another recommendation for Netflix, but it's how the bombing of PNM 103, it's a, it's a, it's not a documentary. It's like a six-pack movie. Oh, so I know. I didn't know. Holy shit. All right, we'll get darker. No, if you look at what was the one that was a huge hit years ago, it was on Netflix. [BLANK_AUDIO] American. Was it making a murder with the, uh, yeah, Dassy's brand and Dassy. All of that was just want to go back and watch WrestleMania. Yeah. He's like, well, well, I'll be on the watch wrestle, make me into like not dude. You're going to be a clink. We just 700. That's what I call Rick Nash, Brandon, Dassy. Uh, yeah, that, and that was during, I think COVID, two Keith, everybody was cooped up. And yeah, but anyways, it's a, it's a good documentary series about an incident happening that incident, a terrorist attack that happened back in 1980. Biz would a plane. It was blown out of the sky. And it crashed over it's locker be Scotland. Like, it was, I think it was intended to blow up over the ocean so there'd be no evidence, but it blew up over Scotland because they had to take a different route. And so all of a sudden this plane just falls out of the sky in the middle of Scotland and, you know, killed everyone in the plane, obviously, but it also killed like, uh, scots on the ground. So it gets into the investigation. They probably could have maybe shaved a pot or two off, but it's, it was, you know, you have the scotters people that happen on the land. And then they're trying to get info from like CIA and the FBI. And it's all bunch of hot, I was like, they don't want to share room full. They don't want to tell this. It's like, dude, you, let's try to figure out who did this. But the invest, the investigation, it's pretty impressive. Like what, what they, they were able to, how they were able to track down who did it. I was just like an awful event, but it's a good take. Give that a watch. Uh, one more sad thing and then we'll get to something for. Oh, for fuck's sake. All right, we're missed. I'd be remiss if I didn't mention this. Last week, my classic recommendation was the Irish movie, uh, the commitments, uh, and the very next day, the guy Glenn Hansen, who he was, he was in that movie. He died the next day in a motorcycle crash. Uh, he wasn't very known when the commitments come out, but he was in the movie once that, about 20 years ago at one, uh, Oscar for best, uh, best song. It's like, Kim and the other girl, like, he's like a bus guy. One of the dudes, you know, plays a guitar in the street. And the song, I think it's falling, falling away, falling slowly. You've definitely heard it. It's like the guy and the girl sing it like acoustically. But anyways, I, you know, I wanted to mention that he could kill the motorcycle accident literally the day after the barbecue show condolences to family friends and everybody over the old side. The islands have been like a national morning right now that haven't a public wake and stuff. So, uh, and finally, the classic recommend days, the classic recommendation this week, one of the funniest, uh, spoof movies have a walk-hide, uh, the Dewey cox doors. Unbelievable. It's, it's, but you know, seeing her to this, you don't want none of this Dewey. Oh, it has to do with, um, Johnny Cash, doesn't it? Yeah, it's just, no, it's a spoof of all all those, like musical biopics. There was a runner coming out every year. Uh, no, that's just the musical. They're like, you know, Ray, Johnny Cash, remember all those, like, music, you know, biopic. Oh, I thought maybe Greece was in there, too. No, no. So he's going to be in this movie that spoofed all these, it's a, it's legit hilarious. It should get mentioned much more when you talk about the funniest movies ever, but John C. Riley, he plays the music star, and why I thought of it, he was actually in Charleston the other night. He, he was, uh, I don't know what he was doing in town. He was at the tabbing at the end of the world. I guess he got up and sang a couple songs with the band playing the other night. So anyways, yeah, walk-hide. What a talented guy. Yeah, what the, John C. Riley. Oh, yeah, he's so hilarious. Play anything serious. John C. Whitney. He was in, uh, some people say I look like Han Solo. He was in, uh, gangs in New York, too. Like he just, yeah, he's got a pretty wide range. Yeah, he's, yeah, he's very, very diverse, uh, IMDb page. But yeah, boys, that's it. I know, I enjoy the red socks of an honor. He was a 20, 28 and five in the last 33. So how the ass throws do I, uh, I don't, but is, uh, literally, I've been wearing an astro shit for forever. I got about 17 hats. Sorry. It's, but the right, there's a 47 on there right there. So don't worry about that. Keep the boys happy, when you, when you're going up to Vermont, uh, Sunday going up Sunday, uh, lots of speed bumps. Uh, I'm like, yeah, it actually is a kind of a bumpy, uh, dirt road yet. Yeah. But yeah, I'm very excited. I've been, like I've kind of had a, a boring bit of a summer. So I have a looking forward to this. Just a, I don't go out, chill by the lake for a couple of weeks with the fam and, and, you know, two beers, some barbecue or whatever else. Let's go. We love it. All right. I hope you have a blast. So we'll see you soon. We'll live from Vermont next week. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'll bring the gear up. Absolutely. Yeah. Let's remember. We, remember we did the very first spit and chicken. It's dozen trivia game. Remember that one? Oh, yeah. Oh, there's a few gummies. Oh, I was sure there's something. Yeah. It was me and Bizz versus PFT and, uh, Brandon walking. I, I hadn't met Brandon. We beat them. We beat them. No, you won that one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. R.A. was tripping off his balls and, yeah, I was somehow pulled a rabbit out of his ass. I was enjoying my vacation. Bizz, you, your clutch too, man. We, we, we, we, our great teammates, but they, no way they thought they were going to lose the West. Two peckheads, but chicken butts versus PFT, Brandon walking. Give it a, give it a look. See if you want a few laps. So all right, boys. Great show boys. Patrice Bergeron. Yeah. Thank you, Bergeron. And I go, I'm going to go walk some uplifting. Yeah. I'm going to go. Put it off. I can't World War Two documentary. Meet all the kids who on the front of the boat. Is he going to die? All right. Everyone have a great week. We'll see you next week. Love you all. For better heaven, worth breaking. But it's taking time. I don't know. You don't like it. It's going to happen. It's going to happen again. What happens when you lock 18 co-workers in an office for one week to compete for a quarter million dollars of cash? This is surviving bar stool season five presented by rumble premium, where each episode releases three hours early. So get it out free before anybody else only when you join rumble premium. New episodes of surviving bar stool will be released every Sunday and Wednesday, leading up to the Labor Day finale on September 7th. You can watch surviving bar stool at 5 p.m. on rumble premium and everywhere else at 8 p.m. Eastern.