Spittin' Chiclets Episode 661: Featuring Sean Avery

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Welcome back to episode 661 of the Pinky's Up Spit and Chicklets podcast. What is going on? Biz, great to see you. Yance, what a week we had. G, can't wait to hear about your bachelor party. But shout out, Pink Whitney. Not anywhere in England. We did not see any Pink Whitney. We saw a lot of whiskey. The only thing we didn't see. The only thing we didn't see, basically. But shout out, Pink Whitney, and shout out everyone who's ever tried it or is willing to try it if you haven't yet. Yeah. Before we get to the trip, Noah Kahn, hole-in-one. The round, you were probably supposed to be playing with him. Did he reach out to you? So it was never. No. I've told you like a hundred times. No, he has not reached out to me. He's only spoken to you. He has not reached out to me. But I'm not going to say that I was supposed to play with him because, once again, this goes back to you in which you told me he can play Monday morning. And I was like, oh, but we had to record. We recorded that day. And then we were. We were leaving that night. And what do you know? At one of my favorite golf courses in the world, Boston Golf Club, he gets an ace. He gets a frigging ace. That should have been your ace. I'm not going to say that's my ace. No, that was your ace. It's your ace. No, it was my. It was my. It's your ace here. It was my going to be witness ace. I was going to witness the ace. But I was not. Now, I had talked to the Boston Golf Pro who had said the day we were trying to golf. I think that was Friday when I went to the show. And we were. He's like, yeah, we can play here in the morning. But once again, I never heard from him. He's a busy man. Unfortunately, I saw you had to cancel a show. I think it might be Foles reaching out to me or something. Oh, it's from his Instagram, isn't it? Yeah, but somehow Foles. I mean, you guys said he's the best prankster going. So, I mean, yeah, the song. My playlist continues to. Oh, speaking of that, I should go get it. I got a special gift from Spotify. Boys, I got. Did I show you that? I believe we might have mentioned it in a prior episode. Or maybe it was somebody. Let me go get it. Let me go get G when we signed on. I think G texted it to us. G texted. Okay. Yeah, which is nice. This is very cool. And then this will tell you how big the wit dog's house is with how long it takes him to go get this. So, all you folks at home listening, it's been about 10 seconds right now. Where are you right now, Biz? I met my friend. Jackie's in North Vancouver, British Columbia. Had a great boating weekend. We went on the boat Saturday. Nice. Shout out to the. Okay, here. He's back. He's back. Very modest. Must have been at the top of the stairs. I think you just made fun of me, but what did you say? No. Yans said you're going to know how big this guy's house is based on how long it takes them to go get this. That was like maybe 11 seconds. Maybe. Now, okay. Here it is. Boom. One hundred million streams from Spotify spitting chiclets. This is a pretty bomb ass plaque. It's heavy as shit to my forearm. My four. My four arms. Okay, Wyatt. My four arms. My four arms. Gets it. Now, this is the bronze medal type of award that Spotify gives up. So, my guess was that silver medal is 500 million and gold is a billion. So, we're going to get to 1 billion streams. Wow. We're going to be podcasting when we're wearing diapers if we want to get to 1 billion streams. Yeah, talking about bladder issues and other things. Now, my wife did have to mention, oh, you got a bronze and you got a silver now. You think you'll ever get a gold in anything? I'm like, kind of unnecessary. Although, it was a way for five nights. I was going to ask you guys this exact thing. So, as married guys who have children, when you get to go on that type of trip, is there a little bit more duty when you come home? Is it kind of like, is there a little, especially when your kids are a little younger, right? So, it's a lot more on your partner's lap in more difficult years. What is the feeling when you get home? Bro, I got home to the driveway in monster, like seven foot bubble letters. Welcome home, dad. Wow. Wow. Wow. Chalk, giant hugs, just love all over the household. Just love the entire time I was away. I just, I salute her and saluted her. I bowed down and I was like, now, granted, here's a side factor. Wyatt was in Nantucket all week with my mom. So, Wyatt, he's the heart and soul of this household, right? He makes things a lot better and at times he makes things a lot tougher. But overall, you know when he's not here. You just know more than anyone else. So, I think that probably created a little easiness, a little more easy. Of writing the welcome home wit. Of the welcome home dad. It was Wyatt. No swear words in there. And Keith's girls are older, so that's not really an issue. Yeah, I slept yesterday from, well, we had to go back. I flew to Boston with Witt and then I had to go to Baltimore because my girls were here in Baltimore for a lacrosse tournament. So, I met them in Baltimore and last night I slept from 9 to 11.30. Oh, wow. It was completely out cold. It was just such a grueling day of trip. And then I had to drive two and a half hours today. So, that was probably my punishment, driving the two and a half hours to Delaware. And then we got another tournament this weekend coming up and then tournaments are done for the summer, busy boy. Oh, thank God. God, you grind. The girls lacrosse, I mean, it's no different than the youth hockey madness. I know. You guys have had, what, 20 tournaments this season? But at least yours is during the winter. Yeah, well, no. Well, mine are, but plenty of kids Ryder's age are all summer too. It's crazy. And granted, you're outside during the tournaments. You're on some dump rink in July. But, yeah, shout out our trip. Shout out Dan Cleary and Sean Horkoff. They put this thing together. We had a blast. Incredible time. The way Keith started off the trip, I mean, he almost gave me a goddamn heart attack. Like, we left. We had a nice meal at the airport. Took an Ambien, right? Because you have to sleep on the way over. You have to sleep on the way over. Oh, those are nice. We were next to each other on the plane. He was asleep in seven seconds. Oh, yeah, like me in Detroit when you guys put me in the burrito in the hallway. Yeah, exactly. The minute the Ambien would hit my tongue, I'd be like. Done. And I was like, oh, I thought we'd talk for like 30 minutes before we try to go to sleep. He's done. So we land. And we land about 45 minutes before Commodore, Horkoff, Cleary, who else? Samsonov have landed. And we're all going to take the same bus to the hotel. So me and him are just sitting there, grab a coffee. I'm reading the paper. The paper is like, you know, they hadn't played yet. England hadn't lost to Argentina yet. The paper, the first 10 pages are just soccer. So I loved it. It was like you could tell the whole place is alive. So he went over to get a coffee and I'm just sitting there. And all of a sudden he's he's being escorted over to me with the fear of God in his eyes by a police officer with a machine gun. And he's like, dude, dude, dude. And the officer's like, this your friend? I'm like. Yeah, he's a take his bag. He's like, dude, he's saying he's going to. cavity surgery. I'm like, what did you? And I'm panicked. I'm like, what? all of a sudden this cop starts dying laughing he's holding his gun i'm surprised he just started shooting a couple rounds i gotcha i love i can't do an english accent i love you boys holy shit can't believe you're here i was like he was a chiclets guy he was a chiclets fan he he said he took the job at the airport because it gave him a longer commute so that he could listen to the show on his commute fuck out i swear to god i wrote luke luke luke i wrote luke cop cavity search in my trip notes so shout out luke buddy he's a great guy he actually told me so your first thought when he goes hey i'm a trickles guy you're like hey let's fuck with wit well i i went to the i went to use the bathroom and then he stopped me walking over it and i was like he's like oh can i grab a picture and i go oh wit's here too why don't we get a picture with him and as we're walking over i go you know what let's just throw a little prank at him i go pretend like you're gonna arrest me like have the gun go and say you're gonna cavity search me and everything and i had the look and he played it off like he was a professional yeah he oh he this guy played it off like they played me like a fiddle but he's acting skills like there was no i i didn't think you could have pulled that off without smart buddy he was like that you just went white and you yeah like one of those ones there yes it was like your acting ability to be honest and it was an actor and the best was what's his name was with us uh shanks was with us too so and he had he barely even knew us one of the guys who was a late ad to the trip um that was the hazy ad as opposed to hazy yes yes why is wit laughing so hard bro this i want to know all about him okay i want to know all about i want to know what he had for breakfast daryl scheller daryl great guy the fact he just called him shanks i had so he's shank scheller okay oh he was on a golf trip if you leave a golf trip and your nickname shanks you had the worst golf trip of your life yep okay so this guy no business what happened to this guy on the last day i i was crying i'm gonna start crying now great guy we meet him he's the first to arrive he comes up he's like hey with heath um i'm daryl i'm feeling you know i came i'm like awesome awesome dude very very very nice guy amazing and i and i believe i believe he's a three-handed no no there's no yeah three there's no unless it's justin williams i don't believe you i i believe he's a three-handicap i actually know he's a three-handicap because he's bertuzzi's buddy he's birth buddy and we had a great time now he he played the first day we played with him keith he was great he shot 77 like he was and once again great guy but as the trip went on and you know they're drinking and he's kind of playing a little worse and worse and worse so you get down to the final two rounds of the trip we're playing my mind you he's the oldest there too and he's drinking like a viking and yeah yeah okay so you guys are talking about how much you're golfing and the fact that yans before we hopped on he said that there's there's there was only one time you got to use carts yeah the last day the last day and and you had no legs hey and then uh and then the last day no caddies this we had oh yeah we'll get into it and and once again everyone we'll get into the news you know conor badar big contract steve eisman and the steve eisman story that comes back to the golf trip a little bit crazy enough so it does so we get to the last two the last two rounds the last two rounds sat uh friday's round is at this place saint george's hill i think it was my favorite course i loved it no that's royal saint george's that was a different one this place was sick now the golf guy we did the trip championship on the final two rounds so the lower money winners the lowest money winners because you always try to make it so everyone pretty much wins the same amount of money like that that figures out the draft order the night before the trip championship then you have a partner and then you're playing two rounds and it's just stroke play with with everyone's strokes and it's best score at the end of the two rounds win it so ray whitney um he had i think the second pick right or first first first and yeah and and based on like it's kind of it doesn't even matter you couldn't you couldn't pick certain people he could have taken mike commodore mike commodore is a hell of a play together in the bagger exactly their chemistry's unmatched and wizard hadn't played with shank scheller yet but he'd been told that shanks was like a really good player and you know once again and his name wasn't janks yes his name wasn't shanks yet either and once again he is a good golfer so and i hope i'm i hope i'm gonna be able to get to this story so the first round they shoot they shoot two under they're in a great spot that's unreal um uh who was three uh who was three under somebody's in the lead oh it was nyquist and mike commodore so nyquist is the best golfer on the trip he ends up with call me and they're three under after the first round but shanks and wizard are and he's not shanks yet they're two under they're right in the mix dude they're paired together the last day in the final group okay first hole shank second hole i think there was another shank the third hole he goes shank shank shank scheller he just lost it buddy listen this is i haven't got to the part that made me cry laughing his phone is connected to the speaker to play the music all right biz so he's pumping out the tunes and he's in control he's got the aux cord and all of a sudden the guys hear the music stop wizard hears the music stop wizard telling me this story i would go back in time no way no way he youtubed i how to fix the shit so all of a sudden no i'm over here you no i'm over here reading don't kill myself books the bluetooth's like you know an unreal song dripping are you hitting shanks on the course here's three tips to get you to hit the ball no oh my god and that's when you know and buddy this poor guy that was hole three there's a third hole that's a long round buddy that's a long round and wizard's so good that was like me googling how to skate when i was playing how to make a tape to tape it was me before the cup file googling how to throw a body check and the whole the boys hearing me youtube it but oh no man yeah great guy though great guy how was the how was the last 14 holes or 15 i think god awful i think he i think he ended up saying he hit like 11 total and i think he might have had four through three so there was still seven more out there right just and what's funny is on the range beforehand i want i drove the cart up and then i see him just striping him no no no no no no no this i pulled the card up i'm mixing my drink and i just look up and i see a hosel rocket going 100 miles an hour dead right i was like whoa daryl daryl little did i know that now when i see him i'll just be like yo shanks what's up bro but he kept being like i'm good at golf i'm like i know you are i played with you first round i saw you're very good at golf but i mean having so you think that's fully mental or you think that's booze and also like when you play fatigue it was fatigue it was fatigue i would have been toast that's a lot of golf man we got better no nyquist is always nasty i won't call me call me because he's a legit viking yeah call actually call me how much call me got really good call me got call me the last two rounds was incredible yeah he's just built for long lasting events i actually think wizard scored better every single round um when i was a kid i was like oh my god i'm gonna be a viking i'm gonna be a when we were walking the one day we were walking someone was like jesus christ calm he looks like a clydesdale it's because he's so big his hair was huge he's he's enormous and his hair when we went out the one night ernie else buddy his hair's down to here right now it looks phenomenal but it was like just out of the shower maybe some products slick and keith i want to say five hours later outside a pub you know i mentioned how excited i was to have drinks outside the pub and keith goes look at call me buddy his hair was fucking three feet out both sides just sorry joe bob yeah i think i think what somebody asked him is that your natural hair color uh but it was the one line on that trip man yeah yeah a lot of stuff um so i who are uh who were the other guys you guys mentioned some other guys last last time uh oh you because you you drew in eiserman hork off so that that news drops when he's on that trip yeah and and and clearly works for the red wings too and i was like guys we didn't go on this trip for i think six or seven years because they've just been so busy and then like you know hork's son was he was doing a ton with him and now will's 19 or 20 and it was just kind of the timing wasn't right and of course we go back on the trip and and the whole eiserman thing you know happens but that was more just like all of a sudden hork's on the phone the whole time and and if they stay within the organization for their next hire i'm pretty sure it'll be sean hork off like okay wow yeah and i think it would be the best decision the red wings can make personally you like um but obviously there's going to be all these interviews and but almost getting to that i do have to tell call me told a story that was incredible so call me his first year pro was playing um i believe he was in the mind yeah he was in the minors and he got called up and he was paired with scott stevens and they were playing the penguins and the first two periods he said it was the cleanest hockey i've ever played no chances against nothing going wrong we got the lead and all of a sudden in the third period mario lemieux decided to turn it on he goes the heat got turned up 66 had four points we lost and next game i'm sitting there getting dressed tying my skates and look down and it's an albany river rats jersey like i had the world by the i had the world by the balls for two periods where what so he was in jersey he was in jersey that's who yeah because lou yeah lou oh i played every round with todd bertuzzi biz i fucking love him he is oh i heard i had never raves about him he's the most like he he's the most like he's the most like he's the most like he's such a good guy like he's honestly one of the most loyal good guy i don't say whatever the fuck you want about him if you've ever met this guy he's unbelievably funny and he's got he's one of those memory guys he remembers everything crazy every single thing you mentioned one guy he had a story he told you how much he loved him had an unbelievable story about him he was just all time that's unreal you forget some of those guys like the wizard and and oh and those guys like they played they were in the 20 years early 90s you know what i mean so they had different stories than we've ever heard so it was a ball just to be around like in uh his his new gig as coach he loves it yeah yeah he said they're i think they were i think they were 61 and 6 that i'm right i think they won they won it all and he has this whole team back yeah they had like 17 rookies or something like that yeah so um uh one thing we didn't mention is uh the logo you sent the group chat before the tournament started so this was the full logo for everybody for both teams very funny and we'll throw it in i don't have the t-shirt on me right now i meant to wear mine but i sent it home who thought of that oh for sure cleary and hork but you know if you're listening on the audio it's it's a silhouette of me with the saber sword with the you know the worst chug of all time and the funny thing was when i opened the package with all the stuff we got i i i just looked quickly and i thought it was like somebody with the claret jug shout out that guy ryan fox oh my god what an incredible story and when that was for so i was gonna ask you you were there while well that started right because it just ended i believe yesterday and the dem um england advancing to the semifinals so a lot was going on no no england had already advanced when we went yeah we knew they were playing oh okay that they were in the semis so we got to watch a game we got to watch the game at a pub that pub was awesome i don't remember the name of it it was like half indoor half outdoor it was cool biz and were you guys doing the guinness pints uh yeah yes i was drinking guinness at that and um they went up one nothing and the place went bonkers incredible and then england like they just sat back they like it was bizarre there i was like i don't think this is the team you want to just sit back against and then messy magic and boom they lose to one the play you could hear a pin drop we immediately all left we were like all right because there wasn't much time left right when they when they went up one nothing uh no they went up one nothing with like 35 minutes left or 40 minutes and that's why yeah and then they subbed out two offensive players apparently for like midfielders and just sat back and then and then they subbed out this uh declan rice who plays for arsenal who's nasty and the guy next to me is like what the fuck why is he coming out and then like all of a sudden like bing bing bing it's like something you would never know and then this guy just boom you should have seen how fast irish merles you should have seen how fast wit sprinted out of this bar so we could beat the crowd walking normal pace for yeah true speaking of speaking of walking so the first place we played sunningdale which is incredible i i like i love this goal it was sick but we show up and you know oh where are the cat no we we had caddies right we had caddies we show up and i was like oh my god i'm gonna go to i was the third group and i'm sitting there with keith and i see cleary go to the first t and then i see him walking off the t towards the clubhouse i'm like where's he going on and on and he and he's walking back over with push carts i'm like what's he doing and i go out i'm like what are you doing barry's like there's no caddies i was like what he's like there's no caddies especially for a course you've never played before i'm assuming yeah so we went and bought the book where you can read like you could see what every hole is and where the bunker is and you know how far to hit it and stuff but it's like oh my god so we're finished the round and the next day we're playing royal saint george's which is incredible we knew we had caddies there but we were back sunningdale thursday was the only day of 36 holes because they have two courses and i'm like oh at least we have courses for thursday he's like we don't no caddies for the thursday for the 36 holes i wore my nobles because my feet would have hurt so bad not his noble golf shoes either his journey twos where he's like dude the journey twos how are the knees after though unreal but having a push card i think is worse than even like carrying a bag because you're pushing this thing up the hill i like doing it uh if i'm playing 18 but i'm playing like like i would be playing once a week max it's good for exercise you get your legs going everything like that but you guys are trying to go through this this this gauntlet of golf matches and then the first day it was you know you land you go there you play and you're like oh my god i'm gonna be like oh my god i'm gonna be like oh my god i'm gonna and like i got a beer but there's no cup holder in the push cart so i'm like oh this is kind of like so you finish finish the beer over there there's no cart girls or anything but i was like oh let's grab a water dude there wasn't a water there wasn't a water to be i don't know if there's water in that country so like guys are coming in just potato chips and lamb that's it funniest line hey funniest line of the trip we're on we're on like 17 first round we're playing with burt i go dude how dry is your mouth right now he goes he goes still having a cig he's just old school throwback eh yeah what other stuff though he's just like one liner after one liner after one liner yeah it was yeah and it's it's hard to just like i don't i don't know hard to describe yeah it's hard to describe just just like any any guy's trip i mean it's just like so funny there's just like so many times you laugh at great people so teddy purcell has lined up for us al michaels so teddy's close with al and his son do you know that al michaels has never eaten one vegetable in his life yeah and there's actually an interview that i because i didn't believe teddy he talks about it all the time yeah there's an interview where he's talking about it he's like i would never eat a vegetable and the guy interviewing him and i think it's like it looks like it's one of those like dead serious interviews that they do for like legends you know that one who does that guy who's that guy who does the serious interviews al michaels that's what i guess that's what i yeah but uh no so we're gonna get we're gonna get al michaels on samson off said he'll come on he's great sammy's got some crazy stories about the one who played in boston yeah now he works for dan milstein i think it's gold star agency he has like tons of russian uh clients okay i don't know russian clients so um but the other part of the the trip i have to talk about it does al michaels have a reason for not eating vegetables he says he goes look he goes look at him why would you look at look how gross they all look why would you i think from an yeah nutrition he must take what about a carrot he's like what about a carrot he's like you look at a carrot you think a carrot looks good and the guy's like yeah i guess you're right he's like i'm never eating one i mean i like the crunch i like i love carrots you love vegetables dude you love me and al michaels just having a fuck you match over he doesn't come on summer up he doesn't come on vegetables are unbelievable you know they broccoli look sexy come on he finds out how much you hate veggies so we don't even get him as a guest yeah but uh so one of the meals that we ate it was at the hotel so we ate at the hotel it was a michelin star restaurant okay lamb and potatoes i'm just gonna i'm just gonna put this out there they're they're fucking horrible they're they're horrible i've been to one and i said then i and and brie was with me she's like oh that was like brutal i'll never do that it's like a tasting it's horrible yeah it's horrible there there's like seven courses they're all the size of your your thumb and you're starving after and they're they gave us a piece of the first six dishes i'm like oh my god i'm like jesus i was giving mine away you and then i'll find them like i see on the menu one of them's a piece of lamb dude it looked like a kit kat my mouse is double the size of this piece of lamb yeah double what double it was it was half the size of my mouse see this mouse i'm holding up for my computer so it was three ounces no less no yeah it might have been an ounce and a half 2.2 maybe but it was delicious yeah the lamb was so anyone out there who's like i love it and by the way i was the only guy pretty much saying this these guys are like i love it it's so good that's why i always eat at the same restaurant i don't trust you i had keith i go get pizza he was at the dinner table ordering uber eats pizza that everyone wanted after everyone's telling me how good it is everyone's dying for a slice of pizza after but at one point they brought out and it's all like hero act it's all like looks crazy and agreed so they brought out bread and then they brought out like a it was what frozen butter no the coldest butter you've ever seen in your life no it can't spread like it looked like what would it look like keith what i thought it was it looked like you opened it up right like a smoke thing like an old-fashioned you know when you get like uh dumplings at like an asian restaurant oh yeah yeah they have that thing the top the top and you know there's a big handle there's a handle and i just i grabbed the handle take the top off dude the handle was butter it was the it was the butter my hand went through this butter buddy the butter was scorching hot mind fuck it's like it's like an escape room of meals i haven't had a bite of food give me the goddamn food we walked 16 miles without a water and i'm finally like oh a piece of bread like is it under here boom i got butter covering my fingers and i farted in there and it was so bad they like kicked me out basically hey witt's got the shut up have caddying for him on the thursday that you're fucking no take your seven courses and shove up your ass these guys hated us these guys at that course hated us so much witt found these kids he offered the money to come caddy for us the caddy master found out and was like not happening oh yeah i found a member i was like hey you want a caddy for me thursday i'll give you 500 pounds for two rounds and he's like yeah for sure and then and then guys were like oh he you can do two right i'm like hey that's a thousand pounds for you for all day with us i heard the kid call his mom he was like mom you can retire and then and then so there's an instagram video of him buying his mama house but he goes i'll get five other buddies because i'm like we need six caddies who can all do doubles yeah and then he called me the next day he's like caddy master said no i was like so was there just not enough throughout the course where you guys hadn't booked them in advance like how could you just not no you know what happened uh cleary ended up realizing that he was on an email exchange with a woman from the club and horkoff and he replied but it it was it wasn't a reply all and it only went to hork so they never even got our request the other yeah so it wasn't the course's fault the caddy master just you know he was like no there's just a big no but um yeah so it was it was it was a great trip dude it was oh that sounds so fucking i wish england had won if england had won it would have been even better but it was that was such a buzzkill when when i saw that and especially with you guys there like that plate that pub would have been the next like for the next two hours would have been the fucking coolest place in two weeks yeah yeah true you'd still be there yeah i would have come home and the welcome home signs like flapping in the wind at wits house brie sends a video watering it off of the driveway from the chalk i said no i'm back of being in england jersey i'm actually i send her a picture from new york i'm at the i'm at the final at met life in an english jersey with with larkin and zegras oh my god it was um it was but it was great it was great that was so good amazing people yeah get some new friends it was all shanks man we gotta get we gotta get him on the pod oh when bird comes on shanks will come on for sure shanks his nephew's in the nhl by the way who uh cole schwitz yeah i played with him or he was at training camp with us in florida he got traded he was part of the huberto trade for uh kachuk but now he's back in florida yeah and then his brother's in um where's their minor league team charlotte charlotte yeah yeah so he's got two nephews yeah so uh last can we talk world cup before we get to hockey i just wanted to mention how crazy um and i don't think you could think of a wilder scenario than a 19 or 20 year old leonel messi is how you say it leonel um lionel i believe lionel lionel damn it lionel richie uh lionel messi in a in a like a like a baby tub with the player the the probably the one of the better players for spain and then all of a sudden they end up playing against each other in the world cup final it actually is you couldn't dream up a crazier probability if you know i told brie that and she usually the like the sports stuff i tell her she's like yeah cool she was like no no and then wanted to see the picture and then she could she's like that's what what are the odds of that legit 50 billion like that a baby uh he looked like a three-month-year-old baby he's a big baby laminia mall and messi's washing his hair like when he's 19 and then they're like i still can't believe it i still can't believe that picture that picture had come out before when spain won the euro two years ago the kid was 16 i think when they won the euro dominating and now he's a world cup champ now the game itself kind of like it ended up getting great at the end they almost tied it a couple times spain spain were the new jersey devils they were so yeah they were just lock it down boring as fuck i don't think that that uh argentina had a shot in real time full time right the 90 minutes they didn't think that spain goalie gave up one goal in the whole tournament so um but i think england might have given him a better game maybe i agree people be like you're an idiot but like i don't know argentina they just had they just had nothing spain was a complete wagon and then they they showed like then they scored one they called it back they show they showed alcaraz he's going bananas then he stops it was uh it was overall like the game at the end was pretty exciting and i think it was a good game it was a good game it was a good game it was a good game it was a good game it was a good game it was a good game it was a good game it was a good game it was a good game it was a weird uh weird halftime show well bieber played like the saddest most depressing song i've ever heard you think at a halftime show you gotta belt out like a banger with energy what was it i was on a flight i missed hallelujah i don't know hallelujah it's not even his song it was very i think that he remixed it kind of right was it his version and then madonna was nice 40 i think shakira is 49 years old well yeah those hips don't lie the the madonna came out with um with ronaldinho and then ronaldo like the other ronaldo the the one named ronaldo i mean he's he's talk about he retired he's like yeah i ain't ever sweating again that's the ovi of uh of soccer ovi was at the game i think was there he was there so i actually watched the first two episodes of that ronaldino's uh um uh biography i saw that on netflix yeah yeah it's on netflix like i find it funny that if you took out the actual soccer clips i think his brother is in it more than he is who's his like agent like money manager but his brother was the stud player before him i think i think they were like street ballers weren't they like street ball players yeah but i just found it like funny that his all like and he kind of looked like ronaldo as well because he had like the beer belly and kind of looked like him too so i was like wait is that ronaldo no that's still his brother getting interviewed in the chair more so and talking about his job and role compared to the guy who's on the pitch it would be like a documentary about wayne but like keith's doing it all and he's the one getting interviewed more for the one-on-one it would just be weird right weird element but yeah yeah i thought that was bizarre but yeah he dresses he dresses kind of funny for an older guy right they must they must have made him wear that no i don't know i know most of his outfits though yeah it's like how do you do how you doing fellow kids you know steve buscemi yeah yeah backwards It's like me. I get that a lot. I get that meme sent to me a lot. He's almost like Neymar and Allen Iverson had a baby. You know? No. He still got the long hair. What do you mean? Are you talking looks or how they dress? How they dress. No, not how they look. I think Neymar dresses crazy, too, though. Kind of like Ribeiro. Remember Ribeiro? Yeah. He used to dress like, yeah, just like the long jean shorts where the top of the white sock would like meet the jean short. And it's like, okay, man, like, I don't know, time to, yeah, you know, time to just go to John Varvado's, take the discount, but just ask for the mannequin. Just get the mannequin. Just get the mannequin, bud. But what else was I going to ask you about? It was that picture. Well, while we were there, the sandbagger dropped. Oh, yeah. And we're going to have Bob does on because, you know, we have their match is coming out. Right. I believe they I think they wanted to drop that thing like two days after. It's like, I'll wait for ours. And, you know, all of a sudden, you know, I have another kid by the time ours came out. But it was it was another win. And I don't know what Bob's going to say. I don't know what Joey's going to say. I don't know what F.P. Well, they're definitely not going to collapse. I don't know if they're going to collab or promote at all. Why are they not collabing? I just like, oh, they won't collab. Maybe they're mad. They must be. Well, I just haven't heard a peep to the point where, like, Joey Coldcuts, my fellow Canadian, he was heading over to Victoria this past weekend. I FaceTimed him with Bert. OK. OK. So was he was he at VGC in Victoria when you did it? I lined it up, got my buddies to take him out because you kind of have to have a guy with a man. The membership take. Yeah. I don't think they just let you go out there. Well, he went and played. My buddy said, hey, great round. Hung out with him. I never got a text. Not even a thank you. Not a hey, love the core. Nothing. And we just played and dropped in this bagger. Now, I'm going to say I'm going to say what I think it could be. And I'm almost going to side with them a tad on this. The thumbnail was completely egregious that we dropped. I forgot about the thumbnail. And I don't know. Have you seen the thumbnail, Keith? I swear to God. I just looked at it and didn't realize what it was. And now that you just said it. I saw it. I saw it. Who thought of that? I don't know. Somebody can hop on. But I saw it. And I was like, whoa. And that could be bad karma. That was Pasha. So the seven. So I. Yeah, that my thought is that they're not collabing. And Joey didn't reach out to. And I literally just thought, like, that thumbnail was once again. Okay, that's fair. Just that's fair. I never. So whose idea was that? But they might not have cared. They might. I don't. But I'm guessing I'd probably be like. Yeah, I don't know, boys. You're putting us in dog collars with us on all fours. Yeah, but I've been a dog collar before on the page one. It's like all. Yeah, but you put it. You put it on yourself. Oh, that's true. That's true. So Pasha with it. Pasha might have ruined the relationship with the Bob does. You think. Do you think this is just Pasha acting out because the New Jersey Devils haven't really. Well, they signed Anthony Manta. And listen, everyone, once again, summer episodes. We'll just get to stuff randomly. Yeah, that just that was organic. Anthony Manta. I said on the trip with all these hockey guys. I'm like, man, that guy scores goals. And I think there's some. Opinions out there that. And I think we've said this, too. At times, it's just like you're like, dude, can we get a little bit more effort out of you? But last year, he had the most goals he's ever had. And I think a ton of teams were offering him one year. But the Devils gave him two at four and a half. Right. But he scores. I mean, he's at least last year. He scores. How many. What's his other years? He's definitely a twenty two or three times. Right. I think the most he ever got beside that would have been in Washington. He had one pretty decent year in Washington, didn't he? He's going to be rattled. Seeing all these other contracts. And he got 30 and be like. That's. Yeah. It just sucks because it's like you have this prove it year. And then yet you're still being offered a prove it contract. Yeah. I guess he's what? He's 31. He had 24 in Detroit at 25 in Detroit at 20 in Washington. And all the other years he had 16 within 43 games, 1142. Basically, I'm saying he scores. Right. You need goals. Goals. You need size in New Jersey. So. Yeah. We just talked about somebody who paid a lot for goals. We were talking last podcast or the podcast before. Oh, it was Paterka in Boston. Like they. I mean, he's a 30 goal guy. And now they got to guarantee him what? Five, six years more at seven million and change. So I guess I guess maybe Pasha wasn't bitter about that. He didn't sign that deal. Paterka signed that deal in Utah, not Buffalo. Right. Did they sign a trade him or did Utah give him the deal? When he got dealt there? I think that he was a sign in trade. No, I think Utah or Utah signed him for sure. Yeah. Utah signed him for sure. But yeah, you got to pay for goals, man. Now, man, in the playoffs, I believe all of us were like, what is man for doing? Why isn't he trying? But in the regular season, you need goals. And I think you're penciling them in in Jersey for 25. He's healthy. Yeah. I think we also need to mention there's a guy like a Cali. Calgary Flames fan who's been coming at me. We haven't mentioned the Simone Nemec trade yet. We missed it for like two or three pods. I don't believe. Thanks, Pasha. I don't think we went over it. I don't know what Pasha. We should get Pasha maybe on to summarize the bagger and also what he thinks about moving on from Simone Nemec and why he put the other guys in dog collars. What was that about, Pasha? Well, I think we know what it's about. You guys have been dog walking them for how many rounds in a row? And yeah, it's a bit of a spicy thumbnail, but we're currently at 996,000 views. We'll probably hit a million while we're live right now recording. And fucking 30% of the comments are talking about how ridiculous this thumbnail is. So it's getting clear. Good or bad. There's a lot that are like, this is hilarious. And then I think a lot of Bob does his fans are like, this is unacceptable. Like, it'd be a million if it wasn't. Thumbnail comes out and you don't know who won. So it's like we won the last two. What was that? Year? Was that two years ago? No, a year ago. So all of a sudden you click on and you see these guys in dog collars on all fours. And it's just like, whoa. I mean, I'm sitting there in England. I go, whoa. I saw that. So, Pasha. Yeah, you get. Now, once again, I would play golf with those guys once a week for the rest of my life. And I'm not just saying that because we always win. I love those guys. People are reaching out to me. The Bob does sports fans. They want me dead. They legit want me dead. The YouTube golf crowd and myself, we don't vibe. I guess we don't. I don't know. They think I'm the meanest person alive. It was just we were talking shit on the golf course. Once again. They talk shit to us, too, though. I know. But I think, like, I don't know. They say, like, everyone else is joking. And you're just serious. You're a mean fucking prick. I'm like, dude, I'm not serious. So I might come off as I'm serious, but I'm not. They don't like the curse in the F-bombs. I think some of these golf fans, you know, it's a little more proper. The videos they watch. That's true. They're taken aback. Bob and them, they swear. Yeah, true. Yeah, they swear all the time, don't they? Yeah. If you would have seen the thumbnail and it would have been up to you, would you have said, let's not go with this thumbnail? Or you would have said, no, all gas here. Yeah, I probably would have seen. I swear to God, if I was asked. Before I even saw the third dog and the third member of our team, I would have said no. Depends. Who was I walking in it? Yeah, who was I walking? Was I walking? If I was walking Bob. Jens is walking Bob. This is walking FP. I would never do that to FP, and he's three times the golfer I am. Yeah, no, I would have. I love them too much. I hope they don't think it was us. But either way, we got another match with them. Let's drop it on their channel. So go check out the one on our. I believe we collaborated on that, though. It's like a YouTube collab. So shout out 465,000 followers at this point and almost at a million for this sandbagger. So check it out. Those guys do absolute numbers. Numbers. They do. Those guys who are on a video, dude, they do numbers. So shout out Bob. Speaking of good numbers, 4.75 for Anthony Menta. Oh, I thought it was 4.5. Okay, so you love that. Love that deal. Yeah, there's no no trade clause, which I haven't seen in Jersey in many, many years. So it's refreshing that Sonny's not dishing those out like Skittles. And I think, yeah, they need scoring. He's a big body. You know, he's streaky, but I think like five on five, he's been efficient and he's a clinical finisher. That's what Jack's been missing his whole career. He's put it on a platter for Eric Hall. I like him as a player, but couldn't finish a lot of chances. Palat couldn't finish chances. So finally having a guy who's like a clinical finisher, I think will be huge. But he's a bit injury prone. He's a bit streaky, but I think at that price, on that term it's a good ad i know your dream was was obviously in every team's dream is like kind of a meaner scoring winger right for jack now he doesn't really have that but if he stays healthy like i said like mark it down 25 and it's actually a guy if he stayed healthy and jack is healthy himself and flying around i mean when jack was playing last year he was dominant so if he has a year mantha stays healthy he actually could get 35 40 goals it sounds crazy but i don't think it's that nuts i'm not expecting i think 25 but do you see what i'm saying if that guy plays 82 games which has he ever let me look i don't think so yeah 81 this year and he played 80 his second full season other than that there's there's one over 60 no two over 60 and then a lot of 56 18 13 42 43 so oh i guess that's the covid year did we mention the nemec trade when it happened pasha do you remember talking about it i don't i think we talked about it on game notes i don't know if we talked about it on here and what were your thoughts overall matt just to summarize while we got you uh my thoughts overall was that like overall i'm disappointed you know you draft this guy second overall i kind of pictured him being a pillar on the back end there for like the next decade so obviously don't like how things panned out with him like i still think he has a high ceiling uh i think sunny did a really good job of recouping assets for him uh getting you know a couple firsts um i think in the right system and you know with the right usage he can have success there's like he's got kind of like offense you can't teach and he's got that clutch gene but he's a complete defensive liability so um i think he'll go on to have a pretty solid career and i would have liked more of a second overall pick but i think sunny did a good job of getting you know good value for him they ended up signing him i think for seven and a half uh which is you know at the time it was only a couple years right or short five or five years ago okay five yeah it's something like that which seems to be the new length that everybody wants to go now dude yeah pasha that's you are so you're such a joke like why why you're a joke if this was anyone else's team on this podcast and they had a second overall pick that they were ranting and raving about and i quote and i quote gonna win a norris trophy no i never yes you did no i'd hold on let me finish you spoke you find a clip of me saying nemeth's will win the norris it was at a dinner we aren't filming our entire life we're not streaming like we need to start filming the dinner conversations we have to i i know but then we can't know because we say stuff that we don't want out here but we just have some hearing in terms of stuff oh and then we just edit it and shit no no we just have some honor and admit to it i never fucking said either way i didn't even finish the point what g's saying in the chat is true i did say i wouldn't trade him for brady kachok i did say that but i never said i mean that might be worse you that might be you can get hot for one year and win a norris you would be burying us if this was if this was the oilers okay and i was ranting and raving about him the way you were you would be sending me images constantly since the trade of logan cooley cutter gauthier frank nazar and jimmy snuggerood and plenty of players that were picked after him like idiot moron dummy what's the first thing i said i said i'm very disappointed how it panned out you came on like you were a professor or a librarian like gonna go on to have a long career and you know and and it's like bro you this was a complete fumble and you're not being honest and forthright about it i think sonny matters got his hand so far up your ass me too pop it at this point me too he said he got some great assets for him yeah he did you get a couple first rounders back i think it was sort of equinox membership and fucking and frequent flyer miles so he can fly first class and pasha gets to sit on the bench during warm-ups next year with a helmet on like all the little kids when watching the guys white gloves is as a jack's fluffer um i think that about does it right yeah see you pasha see you great job on the bagger pasha great job on the bagger another awesome bagger um shout out bob the sport so the main story though eyes oh oh i gotta ask yans one question what so no none of the jug water i tried to get the boys some cold water we had no uh we had no cold water bottles left so i tried to get the boys water during the bagger and i dropped it off to you and you fucking threw it over your shoulder at a golf course buddy i worked at a you do not drink that water that course why be different why because they're never cleaned they're never like they stay in those things yeah but you're opening up the bottle you're hearing the click what no no we're i'm talking about i filled up three no no like the ones that are out on the golf courses that you oh yeah yeah i'm not drinking those but mind you i worked at a public golf course that was a whatever wasn't as nice as the one we're at i forget where we played that one but yeah you do you do not drink that water on a golf course so i tried to kill you guys yeah okay and what did i threw it over my shoulder good that's why i'm still here okay i figured it would like help build up like good immunity in your tummy and and she's saying it's hose water now it's a hundred percent hose well i do i do and you're in florida that's not the best water i love i grew up i was just constantly chugging out of the sink in my non-stop come in from playing outside i mean i felt like i was under there for a minute or two and i'm six three and a half sometimes six four i guess i'm shrinking i was six four uh i don't have a problem with it i i think i'm taking back if i'm thirsty i'm drinking out of it the reason why was is we had uh bottled water but it hadn't been put in the cooler so it wasn't cold and i was just trying to cool our core temperature down before we finished the last two three holes i was trying to poison them it might have been i don't know but yeah but no i just i worked at golf courses i know not to do it's straight up hose water that the those big jugs they're like the gatorade ones in there they're never cleaned okay good to know yeah okay um what else do we need to get through well detroit that was that was what we had to get back to and and and eisman's gone i was kind of surprised now i was kind of told not gone as gm yeah he is now i think he's now i think a special advisor to chris illich who mike's mike illich's son who he's booking the travel like the team boss in the hotels and i'm not gonna i'm not laughing i'm not no way that's what they did to him do you think do you think he's like who needs tickets tonight do you need these cod that's my favorite player of all time i'm not laughing at that i'm not but i'm laughing at what they did to him yeah do you think detroit fans were more upset or more all right yeah i get it it was time for him to move on what was your first thought my first thought was was this a loss of the power dynamic because of the larkin situation and i'm not trying to put it on him either i'm just like was that like a a big component in the way this was handled now all years ago where he's like we we were hoping to get help at the deadline eiserman remained patient i'm just here to like provide context to people listening like i don't fucking know what's going on behind the scenes like i would never in a million years question steve eiserman or what he thinks is the right way to stay patient and handle an organization he helped out in tampa they were able to win back-to-back cups i was he there for both of them or did he i think he left right before them didn't he maybe he left right before but i think he obviously helped and and build what they had going on there and i mean the guy's been around the game long enough i just did you guys feel that it was a like a power dynamic as to what why he was moved out of position because of the larkin situation or collectively a base on everything i think collectively everything i bet he's one of those guys it's like man i never questioned anything my gm or coaches did my entire career and now i'm a gm and i got these kids doing it like you know what i got no time for it but also i think it's a it's a it's a it's a it's a also everything here is like he's a competitive guy wants to win and you know i'm sure he'll be a gm again right if he wants to be i don't know if he wants to i don't think there's a i i would say there isn't a uh a person that cares about the red wings alive more than steve eiserman right yes where like he just wanted to win so bad and biz i think at the end for this to happen with larkin like there's no way it didn't have something to do with it because when i saw it the first thing i i thought was like wow i thought at this point after july like you think if they were going to let him go it would have been earlier in the year you don't you know at least i agree or before like decisions were going to be made at the draft or free agency or whatever and maybe they wanted to give him maybe one more opportunity i will say based on the draft and them trading that that cosa goalie and then basically just getting a late round first round pick to now have to wait and see if they're going to let him go because they're going to let him go if they're going to wait for him to develop it's kind of like okay like i would if you said like based on one of the i'm waiting to to see how everything transpires with how patient he's been that would have been one of the five things i would have hoped that would have been like oh they would have got a starting goalie out of that yeah but it didn't and then they gave so that's where i was like oh maybe that's where that along with the larkin thing along with the fact that it's like okay we we when someone's tell you be patient be patient i respect that it's like okay you know it's like you're teaching the young kid yo wait wait especially from him right and then it's like i don't know man you're seeing a lot of like successful moves and teams that are making aggressive moves that are then having success where it's like okay well how fucking long we wait in here and and here we are but i would definitely like you would agree it would have to the larkin situation has to push this over the edge now because he's out of that seat do you think that larkin is more receptable to stay now like is he going to stay more now it's still the same roster and all that shit they're like he i don't think he was asking for a trade because steve eisenman was his gm i know i wonder though it's actually a legit question i think that they they were butting heads i mean think of the way he spoke out about him two years ago i remember being like holy shit yeah that was aggressive yeah it was really aggressive it was using the the media to get your message across which hey that's the new league like that is actually the new league that is actually now and and personally like if i was on that side the management side i get why you'd be pissed off but as what we do and as a fan i'm like this is unbelievable like storyline this is unbelievable content it's unbelievable we're trying to relax in the summertime we got offer sheets coming in we have not even him getting fired here i'm talking the larkin the larkin uh when he did that that's when i was like oh my god and i was like this is great content though and then this and then so when keith says i don't think it was eiserman maybe it was but still then do you go back and then you're gonna make it that much more obvious in a story that you disliked him that much that you're like no i don't need to be traded now yeah that's kind of like that's even sticking it even more that's making an even bigger story it's an easy way to save face with the fans though because if they're like if they're butting heads in their year-end meeting where he's like i need you i want superstars i want to play with superstars and stevie wise like no that's not the plan we have these prospects we're gonna wait for these guys to come up that could have been the divide right there and they're like all right i don't agree with the direction of this team yeah that's that's kind of what i'm saying sometimes though it's like the new guy and um there was a name that came in the group chat like if whoever texted it can claim it um about shanahan name came up i said that yeah like you i said that he would definitely be interviewed for that no i so they were very close when they played that's what i'm saying how many how many years have there have the holland and eisenman been there like this is a huge hire original six like so shanahan's name having been having been in the league being a part of this although he was president right would are you saying hire him as president then he hires the gm or he's the gm i would assume maybe just yeah i don't yeah maybe he doesn't want that smoke i just the name when it popped up made sense it's such a strong position it comes with that cachet um he's obviously had time in a in a power role in the league already where and he's obviously going to have to work pretty well with steve eiserman who's still probably somewhat strongly involved in his role there and they got they got along great when they played there's that famous photo um that i think that avery has it sean avery it's uh the batman and robin i don't know if we could post it we're posting the podcast so um yeah any any other name come to mind i'm by i'm by yeah oh yeah and i talked to cleary and he's he's like he would be so good at this he's so ready for this he and i just know how dialed in hork is and just talking to him and i i really hope they hire him yeah i agree with that too i think he's a thousand percent gonna be a gm and you have to need new blood it's not like you can't go back to this old i think it's a different time it's different times are coming he's hungrier right like he's got to prove to be a good gm shanny's you know or any of the old guy any of the old blood of the league like these guys like it's time for the new guys to come in and to start running these teams yeah and and uh where do you do you believe that the chances of larkin staying have gotten higher because of this move yes but i still think the trade request will remain yeah i agree um but yeah crazy that was that was nuts i just i couldn't believe you wouldn't have done it before free agency that was kind of my first thought but then i was told that sometimes that's how it goes because it's too late to bring somebody in and you i don't know so do you think biz do you think his name was steve smith he would have lasted as long as he did in detroit because you were always saying the eyes are playing we gotta like enough of it almost i was i was more saying like when's the end of the line based on like what he's accomplished as a player and who he is like i think that he's earned the right to get longer than steve smith or steve shanks or whoever else whatever other name you could throw at me we haven't even we haven't mentioned either that like all of these things the larkin and they the overall they haven't made the playoffs their route is longer than any other team in the league and so yeah i i think that um i think i would have just delegated and been like oh like this wiser older person is telling me to be patient and therefore i'm going to listen to him and i would also believe that in order to set it up from the ground up and bringing in like you know high-end scouts and high-end people that are probably already hired by other teams and living and comfortable and and being paid accordingly you kind of slowly have to poach those and or like bring up these people in those positions so that just naturally is going to take time to to whether to put those proper people in those places or allow people that you trust to evolve in those positions to take place and like but but after the that's why like like you said when that news came out when when larkin took the podium and said that i'm like oh here we go because everybody was like hey like i would never fucking cause we grew up in that era of the league where it was and then for for and keep in mind like larkin it's it's a very difficult position to be in regardless of how great of a player he is is before the olympics when it happened he hadn't won anything right so it's hard for for you as this like captain of this team who hasn't been successful to like all of a sudden call out a guy of that stature at the podium i think that that's what through shock waves i think that as time has progressed people are seeing more in the eyes of larkin being like yeah like like you said the fan base is probably divided like maybe they're like thank god somebody had the fucking balls to say hey pitter patter let's get out of here so and with him moving positions like you guys said as far as the saving phase i don't think the uproar or the boo birds are as bad or significant to start the year if larkin starts in that position nor do i even know now like you're saying 100 if he starts the year in detroit he doesn't have a c on his jersey we kind of went over this not anymore i guess yeah wow that changes a lot changes a lot right so there's a lot a lot of moving pieces here for detroit and this is kind of a big move and i would lean to believe that this is a message from man from from the ownership saying we don't want to get in the middle of this but let's move you here let's see if we can give this another rip and let maybe a new guy can make something happen in the midst of a deadline and if we haven't found a proper trade for larkin let's just hope we're in a position so we can make playoffs and his attitude on everything changes given the fact that they you know maybe can make something happen with with wawrenski coming to free agency soon mcdavid like who knows right maybe you get a crazy offer sheet that they send someone's way like philly's trying to do um but yeah here we are the last thing i'll say about hork and i get people saying oh you just played with him you just played with him but i think having played with him just proves that you see all these guys you play with and you you can tell kind of right away could they be a gm or not and not to be the guy that like oh you kind of had to play to know this but there's certain guys you play with hogliano was another guy just like hork where i was like these guys do you know what i'm saying boys they're so dialed in there i would have said derrick step on but okay is it just because he's he just like he's obsessed with it and he's like always in the know of everything that's going on in the league like luongo luongo is the same way when even for a goal he was like wow this guy's gonna be a gm or a president or whatever he wants after because he saw every transaction and like had an opinion on it in the locker room and just dialed um i think more than opinions on transactions while they were playing is hork's one of the guys that since since he retired he's just been all in and he's one of those he's kind of a crazy worker like his ability he's a like his workouts used to be insane he he challenged himself like he's just one of those type a dominant personalities And now that he's just put all the energy into the second aspect of it, the second part of his career, the managerial side, it's the same work ethic, and he's just climbing the ranks. And I think it would be an awesome hire. A younger guy, I think. Yeah, I don't know. I do know, actually. I do know. So if they hire him, based on what you know about him, would his first action be, I'm flying to Dylan Larkin and I'm having a meeting with him and trying to repair the damage? I didn't ask him that. That's a good question. But maybe they had, because sometimes your relationship, what's Hork's, was Hork assistant GM? Currently, he's the assistant GM, and he's also running Grand Rapids. Like my relationship with Brad Tree Living, when he was the assistant compared to my relationship with Don Maloney, was a million times different. So maybe they already have that. Yeah, maybe they already have a great relationship where it's like, hey, listen, boom. Start over. Who should we get in? Who's the guy you want me to get? More input from a player. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. That could be the detriment to Stevie Wye is like, because he's of that status, maybe he wouldn't be as open to talking to the players and picking off of them. And guys are probably scared to talk to him, man. He's Stevie Wye. They're intimidated. You've got to be more in tune with guys now. Player coaches. You've got to be talking to them. And you're not their buddy. You're not their friend, right? But at the same time, you can have relationships where it's a lot friendlier than the old way was. Yeah. So do you guys see a time where I think most people would agree there was a time in NBA history where it finally got to more players speaking out, right? And I think that we can all agree that we like the fact that players have a say and have input and it's moving in that direction. Do you see it? Or ever getting to a point of a problem? Like, do you think, because I think we can all agree that from an NBA standpoint, it's maybe gone a little too far the other way. Do you feel like it's inevitable where the power dynamic will just continue to pendulum and it'll swing fully? Like, where do you, because hockey, I would say that most people who follow hockey, they love maybe that older school element about it. They like the fact that guys would show up wearing suits. They like the fact that it was more about the team than the individual. Like, I'm not saying it's in a negative place or it's a bad to any regard right now. I think it's, it's a, it's a benefit and it's good for the players to have this much say, but I'm asking, do you see it maybe snowballing out of hand or maybe there's examples where you think that it has already? I think there's definitely examples. And my only theory would be that it, as the money gets that much higher, right? Did that start happening as the money in the NBA? NBA got so ridiculous. And all of a sudden with that money, you just have so much more power. You have, you have so much more power. Like now, granted the teams are also there, they're making more money. But now, I mean, in the NBA, when did it start where guys were making 20 million a year? It was way, way before the NHL is even, we're not even there yet. I think a lot of it has to do with like the agents and stuff too. Like even back in our day, like if you called your agent, we're like, Hey, I think I should get traded. They'd be like, ah, no, just hang out. Now you got guys like Judd, you got guys like, they were almost obeying by the GM and not saying mine, but like they were obeying by what the GMs and the owners had to say. It was like maybe a little more cordial. Yeah. It was a pecking order of how it went. Nowadays, these GMs, like they work for the player. They're going out and they're getting them what they want. Guys not happy. The agents. Yeah. Sorry. They're, they're getting the guy out of the town. If he doesn't want to be there, they're going to a team, you know, if he wants to be traded to three separate to three different teams, Hey, you got to trade them to one of these three teams. So I think the agents and the players coming together have a lot to do with it. And I don't think it's a bad thing. I love that the players are getting what they, you know, deserve and what they, you know, work their asses off for. Yeah. I don't know. It is an argument though. If you're drafted, that is the, that is the whole discussion though. If you're drafted by the team, how many years do you have? If you're drafted by them, they trade you in two years. No, but if you're drafted by them, they trade you in two years. If you're drafted by a team and you give it, how many years is it then? Okay. To be like, trade me. I would say Larkin's had enough time there where it's like, I would say, I would say once Brady did it, it made it even more acceptable for, for Larkin to do it. Um, I believe that, but Brady was probably at that tipping point, like in a sense of fairness. Um, and he didn't, he didn't even really ask for a trade. Did he, who? Yeah. Brady? Oh yeah. Brady asked for a trade. I mean, and then you tell, you tell, you tell me. Then gave him a couple of teams. Yeah. I mean, it's the, I was, and I also more look to it of, of, uh, like Brady based on how, I don't want to say how things were being ran. Cause, uh, stay, Oh, Scott put in a little bit of a difficult situation, but with all the, like the noise and some of the bullshit off the ice. I would have thought that that would have accelerated things a little bit sooner. There was a little bit of chaos for them, not only with the switching of management a few years ago, like, you know, didn't they get a fucking draft pick, take it away and then given back. And then like, just like other shit, other shit that's been going on. So I think that that is a, a, a, a pretty much a fair tipping point amount of time. Yeah. Um, but with that said in the power dynamic and everything changing and where we're at, and, uh, I think maybe we could talk about, uh, another special player signing a big, a big five-year deal. Uh, there were, there were maybe rumors started by us. Was it, was that us that he, he he'll get offer sheeted. Um, and Chicago's like, Oh shit. It's kind of sick for Chicago fans to, to see that happen. Right. Where you're all right. It's been dark, but he looked incredible last year. He has the, he has this special, that guy has a special quality, like star power. Yeah. He's got the power, right? He he's marketable. He scores. And then they get them locked up after the Leo Carlson thing. So I feel like every Blackhawks fan was fired up. Definitely fair money. Now looks like there'll be a hundred point guy based on last year. Would you be surprised at all? If, if he's over a point per game this season, I think he'll, I think he'll get to the next level this year. It's also nice. Probably like getting a little bit of comfort where he hasn't like had to commit this big long-term eight-year deal. He gets to see how they're able to handle things over the next five years. Cause I would still say there's like, if they miss playoffs the next two years, I think we would all be like, yeah. But in year three of that deal, I think that major expectations start to come as far as like, okay, here, what's going on? What kind of moves are they making? Like the Bo Byram thing makes a little bit more sense now and in rushing and getting him locked in for only the term that they got him locked in for. I believe that they align perfectly now, right? You got a six year deal. Uh, was it a six year deal? He got either. It's right. It's right around the same time, but I mean, right around the same time, the term he got locked in for is the highest paid D in the league. So it's right. Like it wasn't, it wasn't the Bedard signing for me. And you said it biz he'll dominate next year. You think he'll take the next leap? Cause he's going to get healthy and he's not going to have to, he's not going to rush back out of that shoulder. He's going to be a beast. Somebody kept saying Maya Culpa online where it wasn't the same. Shoulder. He heard his last season. Okay. Well, we need to know that. That would be, I, when you guys even told me about it, I didn't even see the video of him getting hurt at training. Now I just imagine it was 50, 50 of these comments might've been completely wrong and it was the same shoulder and the video was in reverse. I don't know, but we should definitely know that. I don't even know what fucking shoulder he hurt last season. I just know that he hurt his shoulder. I'm going to look at the video right now and we're going to see. It was the opposite shoulder. No way. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. It was his left shoulder that he recently hurt and it was his right shoulder. So he should just get them both done right now. No. Yeah. I would agree with that. Yeah. I just kind of tighten them up like rookie of the year. The right one might be, must be completely fine. The fact we didn't know that, that is, that's a tough one. You guys are the ones talking about it. I'm like, I haven't even seen this fucking video yet. I'm the one who said it. Yeah. Oh, sucks to be you Shanks. Yeah. The Shanks on the pod are just, you reach a little bit. There's such a limit of saying things that are completely wrong. At 10, it's like, he's got the Shanks. Shanks. Shanks. But, but happy for him. And I think it's a great term. And it goes back to that question. How long do you think a player should have to wait? I think that he gets like an eight year commitment is a long time. Yeah. He, if, if at the end of this five years, he hasn't been shown anything. I don't think anybody in Chicago, based on how things are progressing and things are moving in the league, that anybody's shocked. If it's like, Hey, time to move on. It's more of like a, like, Oh fuck. Management couldn't figure it out around them. But, uh, I liked the deal for him. I'm happy for him. Uh, I think that based, like you said on, on what Leo made, like, you're like, Oh, this is great. This is great for $3 million less. And everybody keeps sending us the stat sheet that he's got more points, uh, more points per game, more of this, more of that than, than Leo Carlson. So according to them, they got a bar goon, but if you're him, you're like, well, I got a little bit of a setback here. I'm not going to be playing the first 20, 25 games of the year. This is a nice comforting, uh, comforting contract for me to just play through, get it. And then on the next one, buddy, in five years. years if he's who we think he is conor mcdavid money 200 million if that's if you could still get the eight-year deal or i guess seven-year deal now the the league wants and i i want chicago to get good again that's a market that maybe and i'm from the years that they were just so dominant as i was playing it's like that was a that when they're good the amount of money that they can make the league and and and the amount of like sellouts that they've had in a row during that run didn't they have the record at one point for sellouts in a row during that that was it five year dynasty i want them to get good again do you guys think they make the playoffs in the next two years no and i agree with you this they got the two-year window i think it's going to be him just getting better and better guys wanting to go there and play with them like you hear it now guys wanting to go and play with celebrini like guys are going to want to go there i think the two-year window of him kind of getting to be that dominant player that everyone thinks he's going to be and then that third year is when it just kind of takes off hopefully so what would be his sixth season g put the chicago blackhawks uh historic consecutive sellout streak uh 535 games it ended on october 24th 2021 13 years and covered both regular season and playoff games shout out to patty kane i just i just i just went from the anthem singer i just went from the hosel rockets to just smacking it dead center middle of the face with a driver with ripping out that stat out of out of nowhere that a boy hey you're back after the the shoulder wrong shoulder right streak right shank baby g says so g patty kane resigning there so god chris chelios possibility he's saying yeah chris chelios is on a radio show or like a tv segment and he said that right now the front runners after talking to patty kane i think he was at fanatics fest as well um either between the buffalo sabers or the chicago blackhawks either one would be a win in my opinion and personally for selfish reasons i would like to see him back in buffalo or or in buffalo excuse me yes just because they have a better chance and they're going to be a better team right than chicago yeah yeah i agree with that is is patty kane a lefty who plays right wing yes he's a center that plays d that's yeah that's our ways his his curve is pretty straight his e-bug um let's um well zegras biz zegras and drysdale it's pretty cool these these guys are buddies they get traded separate or no that was that the same trade separate trades right i believe so i believe separate okay they end up back in philly separate either way they end up on another team together they both signed four-year deals zegras 9.1 drysdale 6.5 i love zegras's deal too now with every every contract that's out there is just different in my eyes after the deals now like it's just all changed you get that he was zegras was so good in the regular season he was awesome in the playoffs i i love that he earned it earned every dollar of it gets to go to a new plate that that's why we're talking about like you get this certain amount of years with one with what one team and it's like okay things might dry one coach might not like me like he went from having a coach in anaheim um what was his name cronin who hated him didn't want to play for him then he goes to philly and has a coach that loves him plays him on the first line and and there you go boom he's now he's got how much money in the bank so i think it's awesome for him and drysdale as well great player but yeah on monday so i need to see some good arbitration um do you think uh so so so zegras i would imagine got that deal after the leo carlson thing had been settled do you guys think that maybe he gets that type of of money if carlson's making 18 with philly or do you think that's a little bit less because there's more to go around because i sometimes these things happen one after another so probably have to be less right yeah i feel like i feel like maybe that number is a little bit more down and or maybe they they paid him more money to have to commit less time to him you know let's let's see what you can do the next couple years and then you know because like i feel like if he gets him or the team that wanted four years i think that's just a great come to the table and like for him he's probably like oh i could keep doing what i did last year i just need the ice time and and he uh i know that he gets along really well with the core group of guys there like they all like hang out off the ice and so i just feel like it's a good spot for him to be and yeah yeah and he gets that's got to be top end money for for trevor greece zegras like him getting over nine million like i think we're all he proved it last year no hundred hundred percent but were you a little surprised when you saw over nine yeah i'm not surprised with anything anymore okay yeah i was really not i was a little i'm really not surprised with anything anymore i'm really not surprised with anything anymore i was a little surprised but more like happy for him and like okay i like this because like the team didn't have to commit a crazy amount of time for him and and obviously i thought of the leo carlson not going through and like oh they got a little bit more money to play around with so all the money like is is nuts but at some point not every team's gonna spend to the cap that's what's kind of weird about it all like there's no chance that like just think right now sid has never made nine million dollars i know but how was winnipeg going to pay 135 million in salary whenever it gets to that so that's actually going to be interesting if there's just going to be teams that are spending so much less there's really no difference than a cap well i mean i and also carolina just proved they went on 11 million under and and won a stanley cup or they'll move them i mean we got all these we got all these talks about the houstons the going back to phoenixes that have the money if you're not willing to do you think winnipeg's still in winnipeg in 10 years no and i hate saying that to jets fans but five years the way the league's going i know i think that yeah where does it go i think that biz to atlanta back to phoenix keith and i were hearing because we were talking about another phoenix move we're talking about two new teams coming in and then we're being told that on this trip that there'll be four new teams coming in i never heard that did you i think i think that you're well the reason they say that is because then there would be what 38 and then or no it'd be 36 and then nine in each division and they just want weird they want more teams in the united states like the baseball has won right like they want more markets in the united states but i never i was like wow two awesome guys will get paid 23 more guys a year making tons of money than in the nhl but the league is going to win probably already a touch bit watered down i'd say and then you're going to go two more that's a lot they're going to be playing 120 games by then regular guys are making 33 million but they're guys they're getting they're getting 10 days off they're chewing sunflower seeds during their shifts spitting tobacco on the ice warming up warming up on the bench with a donut on the bench pitching shutouts practice slap shots holy shit oh i can't wait all right we got some more signings the blue signed conor mcmichael biz six-year deal 6.75 a year so they made the trade and then boom they lock them up that that's what feels good as a player yeah they got a lot of guys in that that like seven million dollar range that i like i like him i think he's got a good motor on him maybe like definitely a little bit undersized but um i understood the trade i would say that you're probably getting more from him on a night-to-night basis than you are with kairu but i don't think his high end hits kairu's high end if that makes any sense to you would you agree with that or at least yet i think that's a solid because mcmichael got dealt for kairu over to st louis so kairu over to washington i was i i think that washington is like i think this is an untouchable resource that our coach who's unbelievable at working with players that we've brought here before who have untapped potential that he's going to bring it out of them just like them uh chikrin strome um thompson uh can you guys help me out with other names maybe on washington who have been able to get there and then all of a sudden they're having their career years yeah yeah i like that i mean and i and but i also like the deal for st louis because i feel like i'm going to be able to get there and i'm going to be able to get there and i'm going to feel like they get a like-minded player based on what they're trying to build there they're they need every guy lunch pail yes they have some high-end skill guys like snuggeroo but i would say the identity of the blues is more of like we're bringing our fucking lunch pails like a few years ago when they were they were ramming the jets through the end wall and every game in the second half of that season they were cut they were going balls to the wall yeah mcmichael is one every shift um great yeah it's a great signing for them but i think did you say That you think he's as good as Kairou? He said he's getting more bang for your buck. Well, I think you're getting more bang for your buck. I said I would say that you're getting more from McMichael on an every night basis, at least proven. I feel like there's 20 games a year like Kairou might go missing, and hey, that's just, you know, sometimes those high-end guys, they're trying to fly in their flow state, and that's how they play and whatever. I feel like the coach in, what's his name, Carberry, will be able to push the right buttons and get him to buy in from Washington. And if you're Kairou too, you have to feel like, well, if what happened in St. Louis happens again in Washington, you look more like the idiot. Like it's easy to say, hey, it just didn't work out and it wasn't going well, but especially with a team like that and Carberry as a coach, then you got to start looking in the mirror. I agree with all that. I'm excited to see Washington. I think Washington's going to be really good. I also think Montreal's going to be good. They re-signed Kirby Dock one year, 3.6 contract. He's been through a lot, all the injuries. And then this year, to be just ridiculed by the fans and then come back that next game against Tampa and score, happy for him. Interviewing him, I really hoped he'd be good. Good. What? Does he still have the G-Wagon? Did he have a G-Wagon as a rookie when you guys interviewed him? First thing he bought. Wow, what a legend. Legit was at the dealership waiting for the deposit. He slept in a tent outside. And then it was, oh yeah, drove off. As soon as it hit next morning, drove off like a flat screen TV on Black Friday. Just left cash. I don't even think that the sign-in bonuses nowadays, you can even get a G-Wagon. No, I don't think. Well, used. You got it pre-owned. Oh. Yeah, pre-owned. It was an old one. He was drafted in 18. Biz bought it, flipped it, made more, selling it to Kirby Dock, put some clothes in the back. No, that was Horty. It was a Chrysler 300. The Bentley. I put the Bentley emblem on it. I didn't. Didn't Hortuchuk. I didn't sell a G-Wagon to Luongo. And there was an alligator in it. Or am I mixing up two stories? No, he put an alligator at somebody's front doorstep, I believe. Oh, that's right. That's right. Volcoon, I think, right? Oh, yeah. But Kirby Dock, like you said, if you would have said after that game where he didn't get the red line, I would have said his days as a Montreal Canadian are numbered. He's gone. I know. But his coach had faith in him. That's why. He's a player's coach. Backed him. Backed him. Right back in the lineup. And then that fourth line went on a bit of a run for two rounds. Yeah, they were great. Their whole team was on a run. Yeah. I think it was him, Bolduc, and Texier. Bolduc came out real hot at the beginning of the play. Real hot. There was one other guy that got, maybe it was Kapanen, who got put in with them at some point. But either way, they were buzzing. Who do you think goes further next year? Is it farther or further? I never know. Either one. Either one works. Montreal or Washington. Either one. I would say there's always a drop-off. Wait, who did you ask? Both of us. I just said either one works. No, no. What team? What teams? Washington or Montreal. I would say that Washington goes farther next year. I bet they play each other and Montreal beats them in the playoffs. Retribution for two years ago. When Wilson ended up on the bench with Anderson, I would love to see those guys go back at it. That would be conference finals. Montreal's going to the cup final. Would it? Yeah, right? No, unless one of them's a first and there's a wild card in there. Yeah, last year they played first. Or two years ago. God, I just can't picture either one of those teams being a wild card team. But that would be a sick series. Payback. Wilson kills three more guys in the season. You're like, oh, man, this didn't go great. I mean, the way that Washington looks right now, I wouldn't want to play them in the playoffs. They're big, fast. They're huge. They are huge. Biz, I'm pretty sure I think I know who this surprise guest is coming. Who? Avery. Yeah. I got Sean Avery as a special guest for you guys just because. I got to go see this movie, Biz. Yeah, so I'm going to go see it this week. It's one of the best movies. And he's ready now to come on, so we can congratulate him. Congrats, buddy. This is awesome. It's unreal. And we want to get on and talk to you about it. And you can kind of set the table for what I'm about to witness because the online reviews speak for themselves. Number one movie around the world right now. I think it's going to shatter some box office records or at least be in the top five. So congrats. And how has the reception been for you? The reception? Reception. I'm a little partial. Right now, I need another water. Another body. Playing in Sunningdale. Aves, I have a question for you. Hold on. Should I answer Biz's first? Yeah. Yes. Sorry. The reception's been good. I think there was a lot of hate online prior to the lead up of the release of this movie. And so you didn't know, you know. It makes you realize like the online world sometimes is not reality. Or for the most part, it's not reality. So the reception's been good. I mean, people love the movie. I've seen it twice. I don't know what to say, man. It's really good. I saw R.A. I mean, R.A. I think R.A. liked it, right? R.A.'s coming on. We should have R.A. He's coming on after that. We should just have him on now. We should have him on now. Because R.A. is a movie guy. Let's go, man. You gotta put spoiler alert. I actually texted him to just say, make Avery a part of R.A.'s world. So I must have forgot to do that. But hey, it all worked out, right? It worked out. And yeah, we can't, you guys can't spoil anything. I know. I don't want spoilers. Yeah, I can't spoil 3,000 B.A. fucking film. No, Avery, don't do that. Actually, can we roll the R.A.'s world clip, please? Hello, everybody. Welcome to R.A.'s world here in the spit and chip that's podcast. Sean, unbelievable movie. You were great. Tons of FaceTime. I've been telling people, this is why you go to the movies, movies like this. The craftsmanship on display, what Nolan does is unbelievable. Like, no CGI, all practical effects. Just a stunning movie. Jar of gape the whole time. Can't wait to see it again myself. Congratulations, my friend. Thank you, sir. Did you see it in IMAX or 70? I saw it in IMAX. There's only one 70 million. IMAX in New England. It was down Providence. I couldn't get a ticket for that, but I saw it at IMAX just north of Boston. It was just stunning, man. I didn't read the book, so I was kind of going in blind. Matt Damon was incredible. Definitely going to get an Oscar nomination. I thought he was almost like, he was almost like reminding me of Good Will Hunting going through a midlife crisis because nobody did accents. They just kind of used their own. And he was kind of cynical, sarcastic, funny, kind of like a Cleveland Browns coach a couple times during the movie. But he's definitely getting nominated. I thought Anne Hathaway was terrific. John Leguizamo, awesome. He looked like Feech LaManna from The Sopranos with his getup. But just tremendous stuff. And Himesh Patel, who was in Tenet. You must know him. He was incredible, too. It was just, like I said, just a slobber knocker, jaw drop, awesome flick. Slobber knocker. That's an unbelievable breakdown. That should be hell of a pitch. If you listen to that and don't want to go see it, you're nuts. That is Siskel and Ebert. That was Siskel and Ebert-esque. Like, R.A., what would you compare it to? Geez. You know, I know the obvious thing is people are going to say is Gladiator, but I think that's too easy as a comparison because of the swords and sandals aspect. I don't know. It's such a unique movie. I guess a little bit of Castaway in there, I guess, at a certain point. Wilson? I don't know, man. Like yelling for Wilson Castaway? Oh, there's some yelling in there, too. Fish. Fish. The producer. The producer said it was like Avatar where, like, you go out, like, you need to see it in theater, that type of, that type of movie. Do I have to see this movie in IMAX or am I missing out? I wanted to go in IMAX. I've seen it in IMAX and 70 millimeter, and I got to be honest with you, I was able, but the 70 millimeter was the second time I've seen it. The first time I saw it, I didn't really, I didn't have the ability to retain any information. It was at the premiere. Um. The second time I watched it, I was like, oh my God, how did I miss that the first time? There's a lot of nooks and crannies. There's a lot of connecting the dots, not in a overly heady way, but like, IMAX, there's so much on the screen. When I condensed it and watched it in 70 millimeter, I could sort of dial it in a little bit more and, and it was, I don't know, I just, I retained the information, but again, I, I, the first, time was IMAX at the premiere and like it was overwhelming you know there was a lot going on so was it a little bit more fun being at the premiere in a sense of like the work is done and like everybody's enjoying the success of it compared to maybe how like dialed in and aggressive the shooting days were because like you've mentioned before being on set with them not a lot of bullshit going on you're there to fucking work yeah i mean i guess the thing was we were i mean when we shot iceland we were in winnebago's so like when we would finish work we would come back to camp and we would all be together again so we had a lot of fun we had a lot of fun the guys in this movie the crew of guys oh man these guys are some wild dudes i mean you really got some wild dudes on this movie i don't think you could make this movie without casting some wild dudes on this movie i don't think you could make this movie without casting some wild guys on this movie i don't think you could make this movie without casting some wild guys on this movie like just in the appearance and like how everybody meshed and and and yeah it was pretty wild it's you got to see it it's like this thing is so massive it's so are you referring to the fact that like the buy-in and commitment from the guys who might like for instance you like you were on screen a lot but uh like you i think you had maybe one talking role i heard about you like threw a pig or something but we won't we won't we won't give any spoilers out but just like when you're rowing the boats and stuff like that these are long hard days where you have to have like buy-in from all these like extras in a sense yeah i mean i i don't necessarily it's funny when you see the movie you realize there's not that many people in the movie that talk like matt carries this movie anne hathaway carries this movie tom holland carries the movie hamesh there's like 10 people in the movie right ra kind of when you when you boil it down yeah pat's it was great too he was oh yeah pattinson's incredible leg was almost but you know so you add it up there's like it's almost like there's 10 leads in this movie and everybody samantha morton um charlize theron's incredible in it like yeah you needed a bunch of guys that were seasoned actors so that they could step to the occasion when called upon but also live in a world and and and make a world look real when you're not driven by dialogue all the time like a lot of it was uh i mean i was lucky i got a lot of it amongst our group but but some guys didn't get any and they're still in the movie like viscerally they're in the movie and physically you feel them at times there's a last scene in in in our section whatever it's not a spoiler we all die except odysseus that we worked with matt lasky who's this giant he embraces me at the end because you know we're dying and like what he did without words was incredible it's so you'll see it once you see this movie and every bit and piece ties in together and it's like there's no fat on the bone on this thing it's really a rocket launcher it's it's yeah no it's wild like how grueling was like the physical work compared to say like maybe training camp or a playoff series because i mean you guys everybody was buff i mean david freezing how how many days were you there total filming it was like 70 days maybe on set but that was spread out over five months yeah there were a couple of times i mean i saw john bernthal they had to take bernthal out of the horse at a certain point because he was turning blue and you know he was shivering so much he couldn't get his lines out he couldn't even he couldn't even grab the hand of a guy beside him to try and ground himself just so he could say his lines like yes this was the most physically demanding movie than anyone has ever made i'll go on the record and say that aves you seem and i mean this uh with all due respect very humbled to be like a part of this like the way your demeanor is about this is kind of something we're not used to seeing when you're talking on camera is it more so like just because you've seen the movie now and came and all these guys that are in it like you seem very blessed to be in it i mean i might be staring down the barrel of a gun of like one of the greatest movies ever made you know it's awesome i don't know i mean it's tough for me to say i've seen it i've seen a reviews they're all the reviews are incredible so i haven't seen a bad review for this movie that's not that common nowadays right all right no no what did rotten tomato say it was unreal on rotten tomatoes yeah i was kidding i ate 98 the only idiots complaining it was just twitter like it was like just these fake made-up things like it's a 3 000 year old you know littered piece of literature about mythology and people are complaining about like who was cast it's not like they got like russell crowe to play mountain luther king or something it was like it's like take take a breath here it's like it's a movie just didn't enjoy it i think that was just a lot of online noise yeah and let's focus on the positives i mean you got to work with probably what will go down as the best director of all time if not like a top three like i'm not the most privy to like your guys mount rushmore of directors but but christopher nolan i mean fuck an imax taking that risk what was that like yeah i mean the imax cameras are i mean it was incredible at one point we were in the middle of the ocean i think we were in the mediterranean and you're on this boat it's a replica of a of a 3 000 year old viking ship this guy in sweden made a bunch of money and decided he wanted to build a viking ship so this is the most incredible ship you've ever seen like a a 3 000 year old ship that can manage the water better than modern day ships like they built things back then that were just they didn't have technology it was stay alive or die type of thing and that's really kind of what the movie is it's very interesting it's like stay alive or die and then tying in zeus's um zeus's rule and and and then the gods yeah this thing was a monster there were times where i was colder than i've ever been in my life and like really just thinking about whether i could get through the next half an hour and i would say i was one of the tougher guys on on this whole entire shoot yeah but then some incredibly beautiful moments like all right you saw that shot with the dolphins yeah that's really unintentional yeah zero cgi in the movie everything is is practical so it's shot through the camera maybe the whirlpool obviously chris and the fx team they enhanced it a little bit but to to get a real whirlpool they had like i don't know 10 or 12 boats just going around in a circle manipulating the ocean so that our boat that we were in got pulled towards it and it it so yeah there's it's all real there's finishing aspects that obviously color grading stuff but that the effects when sylla comes down and eats six guys off the boat those are like ratchets that that actually came down in a and it was a hand that grabbed a guy and pulled him 20 feet in the air like all that shit is real yeah the the horror elements i wasn't really expecting them and not the scene in the cave i'll just leave it at that like holy shit man edge of my seat it comes relatively early in the movie but i had no idea what i was in for then are we dropping a spoiler alert before this interview like are we are we getting buried right now all right it's a 3 000 year old story guys what about cersei ra oh oh yes i mean at the morning oh she was phenomenal we're not gonna spoil anything she was absolutely phenomenal in that in that scene man she was so so scary so creepy yeah she's awesome and everything but yeah that scene that was another another like horror element and when you just said stay alive or die that's what i almost said to the fucking boomer next to me in the show who kept pulling his fucking phone out like he pulled it out and i and i looked and like because everyone's a pussy like i'm joe tough guy but i was like i was like can you put that away please loud enough sweet he puts it away he took it out five seconds later fucking at least 10 times now i don't want to keep saying shit now i'm gonna ruin the experience for other people and i'm just like kind of glaring at him and the worst part is he puts it down and he doesn't even hit the button so you had to wait for the fucking diminution you should move on from the bike lane lanes to being the guy in the theater who checks for people who bring out their phones buddy honestly i had i had the same type of thing going on beside me and i was with my buddy budman uh shout out matt budman he said to me after the movie he goes man i gotta tell you you're you're ready you're ready to take the next step because if there was ever a person and a time to lose their shit it would have been you on those people beside us that came in late and then spilt their coke on me like i went through you know people haven't been in theaters a lot and i i'll give them some leeway like they forget the rules and the etiquette you know because we haven't been going regularly yeah fuck that they're just entitled yeah i think we should talk more about like uh my gear segment sponsored by all right this is this is taking the cake here we're kind of mixing ra's world in the grind my gears did any of them uh could any of the actors take um royalties on the movie as opposed to getting paid up front I heard only. That's over now, isn't it? I heard Nolan was the only guy. Back end points, yeah. You got to be a list. Maybe Damon. Yeah, I don't know if actors get points on Chris's movies. I know for us, if you work a certain amount of days, you hit a full residual. So it's like you get your maxed out share on whatever it is. So yeah, this movie, and it's funny because when I think about it, and once you start working and you see how residuals work, they're actually real. And they don't stop forever. So Nash is going to get my residuals. So every time you put one of these movies up on the board, they just keep stacking. They're like these beautiful annuities that certainly. I'm talking about the blue chips. Chris's movies, of course, there's a handful of people, James Cameron, Villeneuve with Dune. These are real movies that pay out real money. So yeah, I mean, this thing's going to. I don't know who's going to take this thing out. I clawed it. I said, I knew when we were making it, I go, this thing's just going to blow people away. It's going to make a fucking shit ton of money. And it seems like that's the case so far. You said it was going to be the biggest movie of all time when you came on, I believe. Or maybe that was Merle. I don't know. No, I think I might have said that. I mean, it's. R.A., you know, like, the thing is just massive. Biz, it's going to be your favorite movie, I think. And you're a finicky movie guy. He's got one movie. Don't you think, R.A., he's going to walk out and go, that was, that's my type of movie. Well, that's why I kind of wanted to give you one. Or he'll be on his phone. No, no, no, not when I'm watching the movies like that. No way. I might leave mine in the car for that one. Interactions with the big stars, like, who would have blown you away as far as, like, humbleness and. It seemed to feel like it was one big family and everyone really got along. Yeah, I mean, no, I'll start with Damon. He got down to 167 from 200 pounds. The guy was, like, sharpened steel. First on set, last off set. Carried the entire production. Like, he's in every shot in the movie, pretty much, with the exception of probably maybe 10 or 15. This guy put one up on the board, like, championship season. Like, like. Give me the NHL comp. Stevie Wynne, 2002. Stanley Cup and gold medal on one leg type of thing. Yeah. Damon's, Damon's Boston, you know? He really is. Like, he embodies what we love about people from Boston, which is not afraid to get into the trenches, no bullshit, fucking get to work, let's get the job done, let's have some fun, too, and get after it, you know, and have some laughs. He's a jokester. I mean, he. Listen, he put up. He listened to my shit for five months, saying some wild stuff, getting in the kitchens of our other actors, he was sort of. He was kind of like. He just sort of hovered over everything. He only got mad at me once about one thing. I started a little bit of a. A couple of the guys, I pitted them against each other in an afternoon, said one guy took a lying from another guy. It was really important. Wait, you're an agitator in that. You're just stirring it up behind the scenes. I mean, we were best friends. There was, you know, a group of us, Odysseus' men, like, we're all, like, best friends now. Like, we will be for life, you know? So, yeah, and these guys are wild. It's not like it was a one-way street. I mean, we got some. We had some real good shit-talkers. Everything from Jimmy Gonzalez, a Mexican orphan, you know, to Anthony Molinari, who's the most Boston dude of all time and talks with a Boston accent in the movie. Like, it's incredible. These guys were animals. And Matt was our guy the whole time. So, yeah, yeah, no, we. They'll make a behind-the-scenes about this movie someday. You guys have never seen Hearts of Darkness, have you? About Apocalypse Now? Yeah. Yeah, I've seen it, yeah. What did he say when he got mad at you? Did he snap on you, or was it more lighthearted? No, he told me to fix it. He told me to fix it by the end of. Demanding. Because he didn't want any tension. He didn't want the room to be in bad shape. You mentioned being cold in the Trojan horse. Now, that's something that came up in the movie Troy as well. What, like, what do you mean? You were stuck inside this horse for so long shooting that, like, guys were freezing? Explain the whole day. Yeah, well, yeah, we started at 6 in the morning. The horse is on the beach. The tide comes in. The waves come in. The waves come inside the horse and fill the horse up with water. We're supposed to be hiding in the horse. We don't want the Trojans to know that we're inside the horse. So, Chris gets in the horse with the camera, and we film all day, and the water's freezing. And the water's freezing. And then it gets more freezing, and Morocco's. People think Morocco's hot. Morocco's freezing. Morocco's freezing. Morocco's freezing. Morocco at night, oh, my God, it's, like, the coldest place, one of the coldest places I've ever been. No snow. No, but it rains, and, like, it's just so cold there. The sand gets cold. So, yeah, we were in this water, and it's. We're drowning in the water. We're breathing through little tubes, little straws that we've made. So, we're under the water. We're soaking. We're soaking wet. Our clothes are wet. You can't really wear a wetsuit underneath your costume, because if you do, it's just so thin it doesn't even matter. There were times we were in a pit in Iceland where I just said, like, oh, fuck, man. I don't know. I don't know if I can do this. Did anyone quit? No, because you would have gotten ridden so hard. We had such ball busters. You would have never lived it down. Everyone would have known. We would have told everyone. Like a successful locker room. Yeah. People say that Charlize Theron could be difficult to work with. Did you see any of that? So, her and Matt worked together alone for five days, and that was during one of our breaks to come back home. You know, very rarely in a movie these days do they do that. Do they let you. We flew back to America three different times and had, like, two weeks off, because this thing was so. You know, you just couldn't do it. Yeah, you had to give us a break. You really did. So, Charlize and Matt were. They were in Morocco on their own for five days, but I heard she, you know. You'll see the movie. She's so good, Nick. She's like. It's like. Uma Thurman in Kill Bill, but, like. I don't know. She doesn't raise her voice once. She's so good. Calypso. She's playing. She's playing the ultimate goddess. She's playing number one? She is. She's playing, like, you know. She seduces Odysseus for seven years. Yeah, I could see that happen. What about Johnny Bernthal? She'd take his dog. Well, don't spoil that one. I won't. I won't. I won't spoil that one. Oh, she takes more. Bernthal's the best. And the Trojan horse. Bernthal's the best. Bernthal is the best. I mean, the memes, the let me tell you something. This guy's got one year. And, by the way, incredible actor. I saw him and Chris. There's a great story. We're raiding Troy. We're coming up the steps. And my whole thing was like, I don't chase the camera in this movie, okay? There's a couple of guys that chase the camera. Oh, yeah, right. You weren't a fucking camera chaser. You fuck. With those teeth? Those are made for IMAX. By the way, I'm not allowed to smile in any Nolan movie. And my teeth are getting more. They're finally getting fucked up. And, like, one of my teeth is getting fucked up. And one's bigger, dropped down the other. So they're starting to get a little. But Bernthal followed me on a take. And my whole thing was like, I was always on the back. I would come up on the end. Partly because I was, you know, buffering the civilians and the background extras and the stunt guys. And, like, that was my own war that I was fighting back there. So John decides to follow me one take. And Chris, at the end of the take, is like, John you can't follow Sean okay he's always hiding from the camera if you want to be in the movie I need you here I need you in this area which was incredible because then John's like that was sort of a challenge to Bernthal and then he's got to figure out what am I going to do long story short I watch Chris walk over and take a trunk pull a trunk out of a burning fire and what you'll see in the movie is a lot of fire but the fire is all it's all piped fire so they can turn the fire off and turn the fire on he goes into the fire he takes this trunk out he walks it over and he puts it down on the ground and he says sit on the trunk that was one of the most incredible things I've ever seen it was like Scotty Bowman and Steve Eisenman having a little bit of a like a spirited discussion about the half ball and coming to an agreement Bernthal's and Bernthal's the best I love John I loved working with him I'll work with him again he's the ultimate guy I mean he's so fun another wild man looks like right yeah a little bit I had I had one more question about the IMAX uh so they say that the longest you can go with uh like one IMAX really is the longest you can go with uh like a one IMAX really is the longest you can go with one IMAX really is the longest you can go with uh like a one IMAX really is the longest you can go is about close to three minutes so you could never have like dialogue longer than that or you'd have to kind of like intertwine it they also say when you're filming in it it radiates this like noise that might be a little bit annoying so how was it for people to like do their lines while this noise was going while you're filming it did you get to see much of that uh well I did on Oppenheimer but then on on the Odyssey they built a blimp so it goes over the camera and it it encapsulates all the sounds so when the camera's running you don't really hear it anymore um how much was this movie to make it doesn't matter they made it all back already well I think good answer I think they said 250 to make and then 125 to promote for a total of 375 quick math not a big deal um which that's got to put it up there as one of the highest to make a movie of all time like what's what's the lead Titanic maybe every person that I've talked to that has seen it has said they've seen it twice that's the craziest thing and I guess you can't get a ticket like I mean certainly in New York or LA that's what I said about IMAX well you don't need one you can just listen on this episode you can't uh how many of the spoilers did we give up of a two hour and 40 movie since we've been talking I've tried to already forget certain details but I said I don't want to bring them up again you guys are forgetting it's a 3,000 year old story there's no we don't know about it but it's a 3,000 year old story we didn't read it they didn't read it Sean did you RA no I never got assigned it though but you I never actually got assigned it I wasn't even familiar with it how I read it through kids you read it yeah I read kids books to Nash they have some great kids book adaptations of the Odyssey and the Iliad the Iliad was the is the precursor that's essentially Troy when Helen that whole thing was based off of I I think he's gonna make the Iliad now I mean who knows but like that would be wild right Ari backwards has anyone ever gone backwards Godfather 2 didn't they go backwards yeah a little bit on Lydia I mean he said actually he might do horror next sorry cut you yeah I don't know well this one felt like a horror movie at times definitely Jurassic World Dominion Dominion 2022 658 million to produce that doesn't seem like I made it made its money back I never even heard of it still make those I know the Jurassic is it Dominion Dominion yeah if you don't even know how to say the name is there anything else that you feel like you have to share from this experience that maybe we haven't asked you yet or you're like you just right when you think of doing this movie your mind goes right back there all the time maybe it's an interaction maybe it's more of the the the torture that you feel like you have to share from this experience that maybe we haven't asked you to capture this like anything else that really sticks out the different landscapes and places that you got to travel maybe for the first time oh yeah I mean there's that portion of it like some incredible locations Favignana Sicily Lipperie I had never spent that much time on the ocean I didn't know the Mediterranean was a cold ocean even in the summer Morocco is a wild place that I don't think I'll ever go back to unless I'm getting paid Scotland is incredible like Scotland is awesome but I think Damon's got to take the lead on this whole thing just watching this guy like we're on the beach in Iceland everyone was tired we didn't have a lot of time whatever I watched him do three takes where he just turned the dial and he was like I don't know what's going on and he was like I don't know what's going on and I don't know what's going on and I don't know what's going on and I don't know what's going on and I don't know what's going on on each take a little bit and what the output was it was like oh my god it was like watching like Connor McDavid like tweak an angle based on speed and timing the way that he does it where you're just you're you're totally amazed and it was a little tweak you know it was making that cut a second earlier because he knew that you weren't going to be there like there was there was so many moments like that watching Damon but that guy is a master of the craft he really is he really is he's a he's a fucking incredible dude an incredible actor on the highest level guy that guy goes toe-to-toe with pretty much everyone everyone talks about the bales and and you know DiCaprio when is Damon ever like he's so good always this one is his tour de force he absolutely at the end the final sequence all right I mean when he takes don't say it off yeah don't say it yeah I mean he was even good and we bought a zoo yeah I never saw that one wait if you if you can't get the IMAX obviously that's preferred but I've seen some critics that have seen it in you know two different formats and like you you won't enjoy the movie any less if you don't get to see an IMAX obviously people prefer that but I mean how about the score all right what about the music yeah oh yeah I heard it wasn't Hans Zimmer it was a different guy who's like one of the best up and coming up and comers Ludwig Goranson yeah yeah he did awesome it was funny too I mean it's sorry when it's like a 250 move two hour 50 minute movie I didn't move dude at the end man I my knees were killing me I was like rubbing my knee and a dude in the aisle behind me was like struggling to walk out he's like oh man he goes I feel like I was inside of that horse because he was sitting still for the whole time I was like oh man I feel like I was inside the whole friggin time the guy next to you lets him he lets you use his phone light so you can actually get out before you fall over yeah you're like thanks gonna get rolled by a boomer and end up on fucking and going viral fight guess what I just was in Montreal for a week shooting this new TV show this new CBS show called Einstein and it's about Einstein's great grandson who's a genius detective and I play a hockey coach suspected of killing the referee not you believable hey believable yeah that's method acting they knew the casting yeah they're like look at this guy's bike lane videos hired where's it gonna debut Sean it's gonna be up Canada first or down here no it's a CBS show it'll be okay first even Matthew Googler he was on Criminal Minds for a long time really good actor great dude great dude I guess the last one for me is is like did you ever expect like when you were done like finishing playing that your life would lead you to now being in a the top movie in the world maybe in the history of the world and potentially I would say it'll go down as probably a easily a top 25 movie all time by the time it's said and done well it's the first movie entirely shot on IMAX I mean I I think did I ever think it feels like now eventually someday people aren't even gonna remember that I was a hockey player which is so funny to think that's gotta be a great that's great that's gotta yeah great be a great feeling reinvent yourself yeah I kind of know the feeling actually that's true yeah from hockey player to vodka salesman it's a good feeling oh by the way I'm sorry I'm starting a hockey podcast in uh September okay okay fucking right go wave what's the name of I'm doing 30 episodes I'm doing 30 episodes only during season by myself and you know what you know who sent me a nice message today Vincent Trocek oh nice send me a nice message did you play with very good Jans is pretty I don't even know him and and by the way I've been hard on him with the pointer stick over the last couple of years but maybe he's getting ahead of it you know I just realized he was in a no he's just a gentleman like and a terrible you know New York the Rangers I don't want to get into it of life what have they done what have they done last i guess lax hockey question here uh larkin stevie why situation what do you make of stevie why uh stepping down as the gm well first of all it's more about larkin at the world cup looking like he fixes washer machines in fucking royal oak michigan and he's just like totally smashed and all i hear is a big old fuck bomb out of his mouth shirts off at the game i don't know man i don't know listen i don't know what happened i don't know what happened stevie fuck man i don't know i don't like larkin now did you see the clip i don't know what you're talking about you guys have been seeing the clip he's got his shirt off cool cock fields with them they're shit based at the game oh the world the world cup right the world cup maybe i shouldn't have asked you about this you guys haven't seen the clip no all right what was the ending fucking larkin somebody should tell larkin that you know september's like seven weeks away i don't know whatever i'm not gonna do you still think that that carolina has no depth first of all i didn't say that all right we're gonna have to see a clip now we're gonna have to see a clip we're gonna have to see i thought you said that they you don't you think their depth sucks so they don't have enough depth did i say that about montreal no no let me go with this one then are you still trading trevor zegras or taking trevor zegras over brady kachuk oh fuck yeah what are you talking about i thought you're gonna ask me something hard-hitting like all right okay that's all i want to know but i'll tell you what i would not do i would not pay the kid in anaheim 18 million a year and i and conor redard for 15 million now that guys yeah but the money's just they're making a lot of money that's matt damon 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am uh unreal weekend though with the boys pinkies up all weekend couple all-nighters with some of my best buddies it was uh i couldn't ask for a better trip and you know we stayed at old hickory lake which is 25 minutes outside nashville which was awesome it was right next to hermitage golf course which we played 36 holes at 18 the generals retreat the first day presidents the next day where they did a barstool classic it was awesome figured out the slice boys got myself a tailor-made mini driver i got the mini driver so i figured the slice out so had a great week actually saw andrew peak at the course uh former bruins of fenceman utah place for utah now was doing his bachelor party down there as well but uh it was awesome i mean we hit broadway every night basically just ended up at barstool nashville you guys have been there you know what it's like in there uh what a spot we actually had a table next to diego pavio one night i don't know if you guys remember that guy that's the quarterback yeah vanderbilt yeah he was the vanderbilt quarterback i mean that guy that guy just like runs nashville that guy just so did he sign with someone i thought he signed to like the ravens practice this squad or something. So he's just ripping it up. He's just going for it. johnny full johnny menzel oh yeah because it's funny so we we see him out the night before we see him out on friday night and then saturday we got a boat uh pontoon boat with that we actually almost sunk because my friends are a bunch of fatties but uh we go to this place called the two-foot cove it's just like this big like cove where like 300 400 boats just tie up with this two-foot sandbar everyone just gets absolutely buckled and we're walking through this like two-foot sandbar and who do we see just buckled with like a 1942 bottle playing volleyball at two-foot cove after seeing him out till 5 a.m the night before was diego pavia so it was pretty cool it was pretty sick but uh two cold two-foot cove in nashville pretty sick old hickory lake and uh it was also sick too i can't suggest this enough if you got a buddy who's a good cook i have a buddy who went to culinary school automatic invite for a bachelor party he's cheffing the boys up food all weekend it was unbelievable made his own salsa avocado crema dip it like it was it was incredible i'm just uh you tell him pre-trip hey you're getting the invite partially because you have there's expectation to make some dips and salsa i think he's got a bill i think he's got a note oh no we didn't charge him for anything because he just paid for all the food all weekend he was just cheffing everything up so i think when you're that guy you kind of know and he wanted to do it he was itching to cook for the boys and that's awesome yeah just one of those things where you know on the flight home you're uh i was very grateful like very very thankful to spend some time with my friends and my family got to put did a foursome with uh got to play with my bro i got to play a foursome with my four brothers which we've actually never done before oh that's cool yeah it was really cool and just a lot of fun man it's just so crazy boys like i get married in 54 days i started this show like when we started this show i was 23 years old a kid and i was like oh my god i'm gonna be a dad just young dumb full of cum and you know now i'm getting married in 54 years old it's crazy exactly it's great you have any one buddy who's acting crazier than anyone else yeah anybody have to get sent home yeah so anyone get arrested the grinnell family i'll say the grinnell family put on a show uh younger brother got slapped one night at the bar oh nice next night next night uh young other younger brother had to be removed from the bar oh geez yeah so all in all though great performance from all the boys i actually thought it would be a little worse big brawl one night at one of the bars we were at surprisingly my friends were not involved in it good that was great to see don't recommend that yeah yeah i definitely don't recommend it nashville unreal place shout out to barstool nashville taking care of us and yeah just can't wait for the wedding though that's awesome terrific job on the invitations i'm sure she you didn't have much input on those so they come out no thank you guys thank you very yeah that's the next thing on the the chicklets travel menu right now uh everyone's pretty much going to stay put and you said no more lacrosse uh tournaments after baltimore yeah after this weekend so we get off to what internet invitational that's and uh an invitational biz oh yeah that's right that's what we got last i just got a couple couple uh last notes biz right before we do wrap up we're gonna congratulate jack campbell uh he uh dallas's first round pick back in the 2010 draft i looked up his playoff stats he had uh 14 stats in the player seven and eight with a 2.28 goals against and a 920 save percentage two shutouts like numbers kind of jumped out at me so congrats to jack on a nice career and i enjoy retirement uh also i play with him awesome guy you know battled some difficult times guys um him and dusty emu formed an awesome relationship when we were in ontario and he clawed his way back to the nhl i think he played a little bit at the time for him and he played a little bit at the time for dallas uh came over from there and uh and yeah i think uh what he went and played a little bit for the kings and then he went over to toronto and then signed that massive deal uh with edmonton so um got everything he deserved great teammate and really it was really cool seeing a guy firsthand like just kind of reinvent his game and get back to where he should be based on um expectations so great teammate and love you jacko and congrats on a great rip and he's doing did you quickly mention that he's i think he's going to be helping out like from a mental coach perspective like that's the transition he's going to be making i i had mentioned that but i'm glad you did i think he released a video today partly mentioning that where i think one of the people who helped him um you know just reframe and reshape his his way of thinking um and that helped obviously also with dusty emu and i'm sure other people who had a hand in getting him back to where he he felt confident and able to perform at a very high level i think now he's going to help guide and aid people in his his second career uh which is cool to see right like uh you know nate nate was very vocal about that and and working with a sports psychologist so sometimes it's as little as you could you could be you know all the tools no toolbox as they say and and you know meeting one person could completely reach reshape your your way of thinking and lead to success so especially in that position is he doing that on his own biz um he so dusty emu worked as a as if though the guy he tagged was like an independent source like a buddy that he'd either met or came in contact with uh and and uh and he kind of like looked externally where you know we talk about the goalie coaches and how much more they've been reintroduced now every team has one where that wasn't the case probably 15 20 years ago maybe even when you guys uh started your nhl yeah when you first got to phoenix was a grant fear there yeah fears he was there yeah so maybe at that time it was pretty it was still pretty new yeah but that just could have been wayne wanting to bring in you know fears yeah yeah i don't know if everyone did yeah so that's something every team used to have but it seems like every team has a goalie coach oh yeah yeah our goalie coaches still like because i remember back in the day i guess they would not always be there they'd come in and out was that the case they're there every day now but you remember that keith or was that oh yeah any of your teams yeah i think fears he used to go and play in like pro events like golf events right he was like trying to make that one a stanley cup after they see did he play like 36 holes that one won the cup that night or something like that beautiful jordan no i think that fears he fears he was doing that too some guys they had to do it just to kind of keep their mind distracted from i mean you sit around you know you get on the wheel about the game you're like playing it in your head before you're even out there so probably the way to probably the way to do it uh last couple shout out the shanks shout out to the boston red sox 14 in a row tonight back in the playoffs uh yeah what's up here boys you guys were down in the dumps you gotta give wit some credit here wit they're down in the dumps they're the worst team in baseball 10 games or so into the season and you tweet it out don't freak out it's still too early to give up on this team i might have one guy game two i think or game how many games into the season was that it was early it was early but i at some point was like wow this team's horrible truly horrible roman anthony's supposed to be unbelievable this year hurt their ace garrett crochet he's hurt they don't even know when these guys are gonna be back their suarez comes back tomorrow though that's big they're pitching their pitching was good all year they just could get no offense now they just won their 14th straight game it's it's incredible the ball 10 days ago because i was like oh it was i think it popped up on uh my netflix like whatever the the for you page and forgot how good it was and then watching the streak and now this is just happening right now it's awesome love the show to the boston tap water earlier wit too best in the country man i love that shit spit out nickels well i was it was insituate i think it's all the same reservoir uh classic recommendation i don't in honor of chris dolan if you haven't seen memento it's on netflix one of his earlier movies awesome flick you got to really pay attention to it jumps around quite a bit but if you've never seen memento check it out i like it the most confusing movie of all time though yeah it's black and white and it goes like a like a time lapse right of like moving forward it's black and white i think i there are aspects of it that are black and white i saw a clip of him describing it today on like a board of where so you haven't seen it no i literally just saw a clip of him describing it today on like a board of where so you haven't seen it no i literally just saw a clip today of him mentioning that and the reason that i saw it was um it was talking about how he was not accepted to film school he was rejected so he would film movies like on the weekends with his friends and that's how he got his start and then he wrote and i think him and his brother who write all their scripts together he just kind of did his own thing like he didn't wait to like get high he just and that was memento and that was his og break and then he talks about describing how it it's in black and white in some aspects where the that moves in a timeline moving forward and then the color aspect it moves from like like back to front and like you said obviously a very confusing movies but made lots of headways right all right oh absolutely he was nominated for an oscar for writing as well uh that you know that did you a little close so that was his first ever one i i believe that was his big break i don't know if i thought he had one before that like a lesser known flick wasn't one of his big movies but i think that was right before memento i forget the name of it yeah but nothing nothing yeah famous yeah memento was the big big break he got prestige is good too a bit best you know what's black and white and red all over the newspaper there you go keith keith got it newspaper put a stump oh okay i get it i get it uh all right boys a great fun time loved having avery on the talk to talk talk movies that was fun stuff there good stuff can't wait to see that yeah you guys are gonna dig i can't wait to hear what you think about it fish says following was nolan's first feature film never heard of that okay you seen it all right was memento what is second either way either way that was the one that made him made him take off so have you seen that one yes it's that's why i would have thought it was crazy if that was your first movie because that's a pretty big movie right yeah i mean it's pretty significant these guys are insane definitely put them on the map but you look at his run too like memento insomnia batman begins the prestige the dark knight inception the dark knight rises interstellar all at all in a row it's unreal the prestige another another great one if you haven't seen that too so oh is that the movie with hugh jackman yeah the two magicians oh yeah dunkirk yeah awesome stuff dunkirk wow yeah that guy just machine he's ripping he's ripping i think he said he's gonna take a little time off but we know what that means right back in the saddle pretty soon with another sick script absolutely buddy um all right boys great job it's great great catching up all right great seeing you um did all we will be back next week thanks to aves that was awesome and love you all won't happen won't happen won't happen again won't happen 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