Spittin’ Chiclets Episode 659: Free Agency Frenzy

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He goes, I can only have two, but I get four every time, because biz. Where do we have breakfast? In Boston. Yeah, but. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. At the same place we went every day, because you made a. You made us go every day. Boys, you know, I know what I'm getting at. That's what I'm about. You know, I know consistency. That place was unbelievable. Because it's consistency. What's that place called in Boston that we went to? Right across from what, the Four Seasons? Yeah, was it like Hatch or something? I don't know, but it was. You got to go there. You got to go. Yeah, but I'm not ordering four eggs there. Oh, you got to. They got the poached ones. Did you get them, though? Did you get them all? Oh, yeah. Dave and she brought them out, finally. After I went to the kitchen. They're like, sir, you can't be back here. Where the fuck are my eggs? I'm going to crack one on your forehead if I don't get my. He slaps the chef on the way out. He's like, dude, man, I thought you liked this restaurant. You've been here 400 times this month. But, like, I go in there, and, like, obviously, nobody notices me. But the other night, or was it for breakfast? Yeah, no, this is for dinner the other night. I'm going to the bathroom, and there's this guy with his wife and two kids, and he gives me the. It kind of caught me off guard. I was like, what's this guy doing to me? Hey, buddy. So I got my first one on the road where I was a little bit startled. It felt great. So shut out, pinkies up, and I've been having a ball in Jackson Hole, Wyoming, I'll tell you. That's awesome. I didn't want to admit this part because it was funny. It's very funny. But it got to me a little bit. But I was walking today, Keith, after camp. So we're at the Yandel Hockey Camp weekend, Nantucket. It's awesome. I went for a long walk after, like five miles. I wear the weight vest. It's really pathetic looking. Get out of here. Yeah, buddy. He's a stay-at-home mom. I'm a middle-aged mom. But a family, I'm assuming it was the son. He looked like a 16, 18, right around there. He went first. Then the wife went. Then the dad went, and he turned around as he went by me. He's like, what? What's up? What dog? And I was like, nothing. What's up, bro? I actually gave him the pinkies up. And then as they're continuing to go, his son was like, who's that? And he's like, oh, it's Ryan Wynn. He's like, he's a squid. No. No, he didn't. He goes, that guy's a squid. That's what I heard. I wanted to fucking run after him, but I had a weight vest on. I can't run without a weight vest. And put a stick in the kid's spokes. Ryan Goggins couldn't get him. That guy's a squid. That's all I heard. He called you Ryan Goggins. Actually, it's funny. It's funny. To say that, like two days ago, I was at the same place going for like a dip in the creek. I was eating at Nora's and I went to grab a dip in the creek and somebody honked the horn, but it was the guy in the passenger seat and he leaned over and gave me the finger. And like gave me one. But do you think he knew who you was or more were you in the middle of the road like texting? No, no, no. I wasn't in the middle of the road. I was like off by where Nora was walking to where the creek is, like on that side of the road. Was it a random middle finger? Just a random. Yeah. Did you give him the pinkies up back at least? No, I gave her the squint like, hey, is that my, like kind of like the, hey, oh, that guy's giving me the finger. Oh, that's a tough one. So I do want to make it. I don't have many enemies here yet. I mean, maybe it's because I keep taking all the seats up at Nora's or, or, or that guy's like, I've listened to his show. He has 19 favorite teams. Fuck him. Gives you a big middle finger, but Hey, announcement boys. Before we, uh, really kick this thing off is, um, chicklets cup is coming back to Boston. Maybe October 8th to 10th at the same spot, the harpoon brewery for anyone who attended last year. First off. Thank you. Second off. I think it was, it was basically perfection. I mean, obviously, you know, we had the incredible matchup of the stranglers versus the big deal selects in which neither team won, you know, the, the, the stranglers lost a big deal slice, but big deal selects lose again. And they're going to lose again this year. It's just, is what it is. But we got a rematch within those two teams. Then I believe, is it, is it Mississauga or Brampton? Where's that? Brampton, Brampton, Brampton, those animals. They're just, they were on stop on the express. So info on where and when to sign up will be released on all our social media soon. But I think everyone who was there was, was pretty complimentary of the, of the venue, the area. I mean, that's a beautiful time of the year to be in Boston early October. I'm fired up. I'm fired up. And it's just another year. I've seen the big deal. So that's just, just fall flat on their face right before the finish line, but it's amazing content and a great tourney. So October 8th to 10th in Boston, start planning your flights now. Um, if you want to get in. So I called our captain Terry Ryan the other day, he was, uh, having a few cocktails. I think he was, no, no way. I think he was in yellow knife and he's like, yeah, he's like with all the traveling gigs and all the, you know, acting stuff. Now he's like, I'm not in the best shape. He's like, I think I'm going to like hang out. Hang them up basically. Like after not paying, not play like competitively, like with the national team and stuff. I still think it's crazy that he can make the national team. Like, like he's having a hard time keeping up. Actually, shut out nose face. USA just won it. Correct. USA saw it. I saw a picture of a nose face in the camera. Oh, geez. Another tournament. This guy's face. But yeah, what happened to the US one? What happened? What happened to the US one? We're down 2-1 to Belgium right now. We're even getting out of red cards, which apparently is impossible. But that was an amazing storyline. Okay. We got, we have to go over that now. We have to talk about it. I think we got to save it. There's so much. R.A.'s world. R.A. Buddy, there's so much new. Yeah. Cause you know, R.A. is bullshit that the Trump man, the Trumpster got involved and got rid of this red card. The storyline is amazing. You want to talk about it now? Maybe we should shift to hockey. Cause there's probably a lot of people who want hockey. They do love the summer episodes, but before we get to the hockey, I want to ask you guys about your 4th of July. I saw a few pictures that you posted. You posted on your, your Insta story. And I never post. You never do. And it was the first one on my grid when I, when I. I'm going to send this pic to G so he can include it. I think it's the greatest picture. He said it was his favorite. He said it was his favorite 4th of July of all time. You know he was posting a photo. How did you get on a float? So, no. So my brother-in-law's buddy, his cousin, um, lives in Nantucket. He runs the rink. He's a great guy, Brian. And he had said last year, so it's kind of funny. So they have downtown on Main Street in Nantucket, 4th of July. They've forever had this huge water fight where the fire engines come down everyone's bringing you know machine gun water guns and you're just it's like a war down there and so last year they actually there's a drought so they canceled it which was a big bummer and then of course there's a drought this year so word was that it was getting canceled again i was actually getting on the boat with the guy you give him that water so um this guy tom green that me and keith know bubba's bubba's is it uncle or something bubba's uncle yeah great guy he runs the car ferry the steamship this guy's a legend and i said to him like yeah usually july 4th they have this water fight it's just so it's like you're in 1950s america it's just the cobblestone just the whole vibe down there and and but they're canceling it again i was hurt because there's a drought the guy's like it's a fucking island like oh i know buddy i believe me i got no idea why they can't get water where there's salt water this year so i don't know i would be fine with that somebody somebody donated i don't even know how much water but they donated enough water where it was the law the guy said it he thought it was the longest water fight that had ever gone down downtown so this guy brian had said hey your kids and riders cousins are here they can ride on top of the 1926 fire engine like i'm talking it's 100 years old so that's the third fire engine to come you know the other two have the actual hoses this thing you were putting out fire in 1926 with basically something less powerful than those squirt guns the kids are using now but they got to ride in on the top so they pulled down main street and all of a sudden that this water fight begins now at one point i said i gotta get up on that on the top of that fire so i got up and as i got up brian brings me over a legit fire hose that's ripping water buddy i was picking people off that went downtown with no plans to get wet women with louis bags i was burying these things were shooting bag gets you five yeah yeah you know nantucket lady's got a six you get an extra 500 liters of water if you get the birkin she's like i'm like let me uh yeah let me pour the water out of your birkin bag before you go get a margarita for breakfast on the fourth of july actually fourth of july you see fudge kid around the corner you're licking your chop oh i would have had acid i would have had acid for him i would have fudge kid is the kid who called him a squid he's great i would have had acid i would have had acid for him i would have grown up now oh really we did think we were talking about this the other day i think he's probably like 18 now but uh so so we start off with that it was just amazing right you know you go down there and it was just an awesome time so this picture i'll show you guys now but g can put it in i mean buddy look at how happy i am and look at rider over my what would be my right shoulder your left i mean it's like you won the cup look at rider i i literally it looks like you won the cup i thought you were at the panthers cup parade outside of elbow room no i'll be in edmonton's cup parade next year we can talk about them in a minute what a wagon stan bowman is cooking cooking so so he's a red card so then we went back we went to the pool then we went over to keith and i's buddy zach he owns this great restaurant here sea grill and he had he had this this cookout buddy he had this restaurant obviously the chef is his brother-in-law he's doing all the cooking they had kegs of beers they had kegs of margaritas and they had kegs of beers they had kegs of margaritas and they had kegs of margaritas they had a volleyball court so we did that that was an awesome three hours and then we went down to the beach set up a giant bonfire there's the dunes kids are running up the dunes then you watch the fireworks from the harbor i mean 10 o'clock i sat there i said that was the best day of my life it was honestly one of the most memorable fun fourth of july so it was awesome man you want to hear how my my morning started i want to hear yours yeah so i'm walking downtown to go watch the parade my kids aren't here they're at camp but i was like i want to go see wits kids whatever see all the kids and i'm like i'm going to go see wits kids and i'm like i'm going to go and we were just going to hit up a couple bars i'm walking down there i just hear hey kiki they all got guns pointed at me just lighting me up i didn't plan on getting wet i'm part of this crew that just went down there not to get soaked wyatt squanto squanto and rider and lighting me up off the side of the truck i'm like boys boys it was unbelievable oh yeah it was so much fun it was just uh um yeah it was a it was a did you go to that same cookout afterward no we ended up getting lost in the sauce downtown and uh just kind of hung out there had a couple meals and then came back watched the fireworks from the porch and then just kind of shut down early night in bed by 10 30. oh god i love i love going all day and then being in bed at a decent hour that's the i do too but i have a brother-in-law moose who like you know you have this amazing day where you've been drinking legit 11 hours and then you get home and and he hands me like a quadruple xl with pink whitney mixed in i'm like buddy we're going tito's and pink whitney when i gave him a pinky thumbs i gotta have this with you i gotta have this with you so next thing you know it's 1 30 and then the alarm's going off and i'm like all right but you know what sometimes you gotta pay the piper in the morning for a day like the one we had i mean honestly too i got this picture of cowboys like i'll tell you right now this is getting framed for my office i mean look at this kid look at him with the steps up to the beach oh my god america just a kid he looks a lot man just a kid holding a flag it's crazy he actually is i never told you brie and i we got this sick server we built one of those farms that ai that's right elon gave it to you that's what took the basement so long we drew him up no it was going to be earlier but the basement flooded that's why we had him three years after why he donated the water from his basement that lemon that legit lemon you bought so listen uh yeah it's yellow you're right so biz last thing before the hockey we know every listener knows man you're obsessed you told gavin mckenna obsessed with fly fishing dude how'd it go today well first of all uh bad news on that front is gavin and uh and his team are out on the fishing lure no there will be no right hook yeah unfortunate i actually saw paperson put the x on that i think it probably came from the leaf that's sort of that's my guess you hadn't quit the leaves you might have right hook in like fuck i might be an outdoorsman bass pro shop legend like i might own bass pro shop what so i'm a little a little disappointed but you know um i went down to the south fork in idaho and i i caught like i mean look at this fucking fish i caught boys like look at that thing holy you can't show your hammer on this is is i thought you were legit about to show me a 44 inch or that hey and he's holding it up that's how you hold it out to make it look bigger so that's way smaller than it is hey that's the real pink he's up it's just that fish uh hey so is that your biggest one you reeled in but i caught like three or four that was the biggest one i got all day wow hey i go better than nothing i can't show the boys on the pod look at how small that is so little our is that a baby is that just come out of it how are fishes and eggs i'm guessing yeah that egg must have just cracked well you know what no that was the egg he missed with pissick well the uh the uh um our our fishing guy the same one we had last year adair what a this guy is a beauty dude he's got the best playlist me and ross went out again and i have a couple other buddies in town uh connor and arthur blue he's a local guy as well his dad's the coroner that's kind of fucked up isn't it yeah like people are dying to get into that business yeah i know jesus oh okay oh no oh no we can recover that was just a dad joke that was that's a dad joke they actually they were telling jokes on the raft that we were we were in and yeah you see this is fish that was the best joke of the day it's a same size as his hammer i'd have to get them to retail i'm not a really good joke teller yans you're pretty good you remember a lot of jokes right no no no no i think it's a dying breed my dad's my dad's good at it it's a dying breed though greg ogar we were talking about a kid that i grew up with is still hitting him yeah yeah his dad like will like just like basically stand in the grocery store and melt and just bang people going by him getting their groceries like boom you ever heard the one with the priest and the rabbi you're just like i gotta get a piece of lettuce mr ogar he's just soliciting jokes at the fucking local hey witt says he does open mic at the uh at the what's it called the fruit center he just goes there for open mic and just hits dude he'll hit you with the most crazy joke as you're sitting there and there's like a million people around you yeah yeah jokes like like around a fire pit you'd be like oh shit but like with like a 73 year old woman getting a fucking yo play yogurt you're like ah mr ogar what a fun day nonetheless oh buddy you're out you're listening to tunes you're catching minnows it's the best man but the funniest thing about it is like there's been like record-breaking catches because right now like it was a there wasn't a lot of precipitation snow this winter so a lot of it is melted off so a lot of the fish were and the big ones were caught earlier in june normally like july is the big month june was the big month so uh no excuses play like a champion i had but saying that there's sometimes when you're doing something you're doing something you're doing something you're doing something doing it, you'll, the bigger ones are obviously smarter and that was one of the things that he said today while you go they didn't be they didn't get big by being dumb so they know when it's like a fake lure so they'll go up to it and look at it and before they bite it if they know that it's shady they'll fuck off so like two or three times there were some like nice big ones and i was like oh fuck obviously i'm not gonna catch it because i'm stupid we all would have got caught before we could walk we would have been oh my god oh we got that whitney kid again yeah it would have been i would have been in a diaper like the fish that fucking biz just caught yeah no that one's tough that one was tough boys i thought you guys would have fun with that one but that is so good yeah shout out to a dare and he he's actually um he works at that south fork lodge and that's the one that that jimmy kimmel owns that's basically where you end you end at but it's like a they built like a like a two million dollar like place where you go in you can get all the toys that anybody can go in the area to buy from and then the lodge that they have there specifically for specifically for the people who are staying in like the hotel slash the a-frames and kimmel's got one there that's like just for him and stuff like that but like that whole part on the idaho side where you fish and like you you you get in the water and these little boats that they buzz you around in it is like it's stunning like i i have a video right now the last thing i'll show you about it there was like bald eagles like swooping in within in their nests and stuff just chilling as you're going by that's a bald eagle that's a bald eagle just chilling and then above it i would have been like i would have been like i wanted to see that thing get full wingspan go you know flying away that would have been sick he's like have fun with that appetizer biz there there there's that the one on the lower tier and then on the upper tier there's the other one but that one doesn't have like the the white head yet and so that one the only other hawk or something the only other cool thing i i saw was i was golfing three creek the other day and there was a fox or or maybe that was a coyote that went buzzing by while we were on the golf course so that was pretty cool too so you get to see a lot of wildlife here as you're just looking at you that's the ketones right there how how uh how far could you hit the ball up there he's like 220 but as far as that minnow i got 190 yeah it's like i pounded that one it's in the fescue short of the fairway beginning um but no it was it's a blast here man yeah get that one close so enough enough of my uh week and a half here in jackson but i'll be leaving in a couple days it's been a great trip and uh like happy canada day and happy uh fourth of july to everybody 250 for the united states that's a big number yeah that's a big one that's a big one that's a big one yeah two two amazing countries oh we got knocked out three nothing by morocco didn't realize they were such a wagon and morocco is good morocco is very good yeah they're solid do you guys want to get to hockey before we get to the usa soccer stuff yeah yeah because that game i think they're losing we we watched the first half and then we began this um before this yans was there anything else that was funny about your time in nantucket that like you can remember that sticks out to you any funny story for the pod nothing too crazy man i got like a bunch of my nephews and nieces over the little kids it's always just fun having them around uh you know just shit that they say um but no everything's been pretty tame uh like i said my kids aren't here so me and chris have been having fun but no hasn't hasn't really been anything crazy just a lot of um yeah i mean you know how it is when you're over here and you got people you're just kind of showing everybody a good time trying to trying to enjoy the days uh with everybody golfed with uh we golfed with brendan lemieux who's over here for the month of june july it was good to see him and he was telling us you know some stories about his dad i guess the services they had after was great he said broder was there sackick wayne gretzky darren mccarty had showed up and wow it was good to play with him he hits the golf ball buddy it's it's actually like he fucking murders the ball and that funny story told about the guy who won the u.s open after he played with him yeah he said that um who was that was the guy with the beard it was no it was the it was the uh the players it was um so he was at whatever course he was at where did he say it was a panther national i think so claude was there and and cameron young was there and he was hitting bunker shots bunker shots bunker shots and like claude went over and he's like dude my dad's like he he would say shit that i would be like cringing because he went over to be to give him a tip it would i said it would be like like a guy walking off a men's league ice shift like grabbing like mcdave and being like hey coming out of the corner you gotta try to like you gotta move your feet a little bit finally there he's like giving a tip to a top five golfer in the world but but i guess cameron young was just talking to him and they were legit talking about bunker shots and how to hit him and and then he won the players the next week and he said they were sitting there and his dad's like that's unbelievable so that cracked us up but um no other than that i was kind of just like like he said very relaxing over here but man when that news broke about big bad danny briere rocking the nhl to its core with a five-year offer sheet to leo carlson which was then signed for $18 million a year. I texted the group boys, and I'm not exaggerating. I think it changed the league forever. Is that maybe a little aggressive comment? I don't know. I don't know. Because look at now what's going to happen. Imagine, you know who the first person I thought about was? Like Celebrini and like Bedard even and all these guys coming up. And there's so many things we got to talk about with this discussion. But the main takeaway for me, and this is not just me saying it. Everyone's kind of rumbling around the news that Verbeek completely fucked this thing up. Oh, buddy. This guy, I mean, what a player he was. He had built Anaheim into a team where it was like, holy shit. You watch him in the playoffs this year. Like we could be watching a complete dynasty be informed here. And the whole organization's completely hosed now. Whether they don't matter. Whether they do match. They have to sign Gauthier. They're going to have to sign Seneca. But Biz, I'm going to throw it to you for just initial reactions about everything. Like going back to Verbeek. If he actually tried to lowball him and didn't try to get anything done before the offer sheet. Like we don't throw the R word on this podcast, but that's retarded. Well, listen, also, and I should have mentioned back to you. Elliott said today that they offered 12 and a half. Okay. And. And they said, like, an offer sheet's coming. So when they offered 12 and a half, Carlson went back with Cater. I didn't know Ryan Cater, Matt's son, is we're working together now. They said 15 a year. And he still said no. And it's like, what? Yeah. He deserves to. This is all over Twitter. Like there's Twitter feeds that recap Elliott and like what he says on his show. And that was the one I read that they went back to like 15. No, it's like, buddy, we have a fucking. You have an offer sheet. It's coming. Hey, shut up. Danny B. Elliot. Once again, we got no hats off all summer to him. I mean, what a run in everything we talk about as far as what's breaking, what happens behind the scenes, like 99% of it's coming out of his mouth or his Twitter account or his podcast. So obviously, like, we got to give him the recognition there. I am just in shock. And we talked about this, me and G before we started recording, before you guys even hopped on. Like, so Verbeek has been a little bit of a. Hard ass when it's come to contract negotiations, but you look at the two guys who are the main culprits of that. You look at Zegras and you look at McTavish. Okay. You know what? Given that maybe the year that Zegras had before he was offered that contract. You know? Okay. I get it. I get it. Same thing with McTavish. There's a little bit left or left to be desired. These guys are not Leo Carlson. There's 15 teams in the league where Leo Carlson would probably step in next year. And may probably be their best center. Right. And if not in a few years, he will be. And right now, I think it's safe to say, if you're looking at trajectory outside of Celebrini, he's the best young centerman available outside of Celebrini. I put him out of Bedard. If Chicago Blackhawks fans want to argue with me, whatever, you can argue with yourself. If they're arguing that they've never watched him play. The fact that, that they went back and try to work out a team friendly deal, which is clearly team friendly. It's a $3 million discount. And he was probably going to offer them three more years in term. It was probably an eight times. That's what I was thinking. I know. Eight times 15. So now all of a sudden you've put yourself in this situation where you've got to pay him three more million dollars and you're going to have them for three less years. And it ends when he's UFA, which is the dirtiest, most sickest part about this. I love this league, dude. Biz, it's the fucking best. It's, it's the best. And this kid. Obviously hit this period of time at the perfect time, right? Like we know the caps going to, I think it's projected right now, not next year, maybe not the year after, but the year after that 126 million, it might even be, I think it's 28, 29 is the year that it gets to that. So for a team like Philadelphia and many other teams who maybe aren't exactly in win mode right now, they're like, let's just solidify having our, our, our main center. Let's in, in, in retrospect to maybe next season. The season after overpay him. But by three years down the road, when the cap is one 26, they got their first line center. They have all these young stud wingers lined up and it makes perfect sense for them. And the fact that repeat couldn't see this coming from not only Anaheim, is it reported that other teams also put in offer sheets, but they weren't when I texted you guys, I texted you guys the night before that. Somebody just told me Seattle was offering him 17 and a half. I sent it to the group. I said, somebody just told me Seattle's offering him 17 and a half, a eight year deal on an off or seven year deal on an offer sheet. And, and then it was, so I think there was other, I don't even think I'd rather go back to Anaheim for eight or for four. I think there was two, I think there was two other teams. I think there was four teams maybe. And the argument and the discussion that, that that's come from this, I get all of it. And there's one side of ducks fans being like, well, what the fuck? The guy just completely screwed our organization. Like, even if we match it, it's like, buddy, what are you talking about now? Now I will say I do get, I get a portion, a portion of that where, you know, you see the deal. McDavid just took granted. It was two years, but he, he kind of took a bargain before that. If you want to be honest and what Crosby did all the years, I, there is an argument for it, but body, like you get offered fucking $90 million in which I think every year is salaries like 900 grand. It's all signing bonus. July 1st, he can make $39 million in his first 13 months. I believe. Wow. That's fucking, how are you supposed to say no to that, man? Like I can't. Yeah. I mean, and figure it out. And, and here's the thing. You get the four first round picks. I, okay. So we haven't even talked about this. I think they have to match it. Not only because Verbeek came out and said anything he gets, we will match. Cause if you do that right there, it's like, all right, well, you kind of have to do it, right? You said you would, but you're never, what are the chances you find a guy like that? Like with a first, I don't care about first round picks. I was a first round pair. Cook out that went first round picks. You, you're not going to get a Leo Carlson, a 20, 20 year old, six foot four, 220 pound guy. Who's probably a 95 to 110 point player for the bulk of his career. How, how, yes. How does, do you think Verbeek, it thinks that nobody's going to do it. Cause he says, whatever you offer him, we're going to match like you. He can't possibly be that naive, right? I mean, you got to know something's coming down, especially with all the young talent that they have. At some point, one of those guys are gonna get offer sheeted. My thing is, is like the way, the way that the league's going, the way that the players have more of a voice of where they want to be. The teams that aren't on guys, you know, must want to be there. They have to go out and do things like this. So Danny B doing this and Jonesy doing this is the best thing a team like this can do, because would they get him as a UFA? Probably not. Right. Like, and I mean, unless in four years there, they start to hum a little bit. And I play in Philly. You don't even get UFAs now. Yeah, exactly. So it's like, this is how you have to, if you want to be a contender, if you want to be a defending team, that's going to go out there and drop your nuts on the table. You got to do stuff like that. Cause the players are doing it on the other side. It's one of those things that if you're a GM or an owner of the team, it's time to play a different type of ball game. Nowadays, it's changing. Like what said, it's changing the entire way that the NHL is going. And I love it. Like these offer sheets we love, right? Like if you're a player, you're like, this is beautiful. It's more money. You see what other teams think of you, how much respect they have for you. And then it's like, okay, Hey boys. Now, now, now it's your turn, but either offer this same contract to me or I'm leaving. I think also fucked over San Jose and he fucked over Chicago by this. Cause the number for those two other guys just went up where, well, that's what I wonder is this. Now this can't, I don't think that can be the number for all these guys. I, and I mean, it can be by the, by the letter of the law and the rules, it can be, but it, it, are you going to get bent over is celebrating going to be like, yeah, this is what I want. Now he has the a hundred percent right to, or you can just offer him, a deal that he would have taken the first time if they had offered him the 15 million. We didn't even bring up yet that for beak, he could have done this July 1st, last year. Correct. Exactly. Like forget the conversation, the day of the offer sheet, like, okay, you didn't, I'm pretty sure everyone watching the ducks and pro scouts and GMs were like, Oh, this Carlson kid is going to be a problem. Everyone. So last year, now you have to, you have to do it the year before the last year of their deal. You better get, you better sign your guy, man. You better sign your guy and you better immediately do it because at, at one point it may look like a crazy number, but you're probably going to be laughing at the numbers that come in the following years for people. Yeah. Um, and another thing too, for Philadelphia, all of a sudden, if they somehow land him and it isn't matched, I don't think that that's going to happen. They have, um, but the amount of other guys now you could attract in free agency because not next summer, I believe it's the summer after that is when there's a lot of guys up. And when I say that, I say a lot of guys, I mean like the was aquarens keys, the Austin Matthews, the Connor McDavid's, like all the absolute big dogs, the big swing and dicks of the league. You want to think that this is a revolutionary contract. You wait till some of those start popping. So agreed that the, the snowball has started at the top of the mountain and it's going to be snow plowing for beacon and other GMs and owners over. But for a beak is known. And I mean, I don't know him at all. Uh, he's known as a hard negotiator, right? So, but it's like at some point when you have all these young talented guys, you got to realize that it's going to come right down the pipe and sure. Shit. It did, man. You can't do it. There's a couple of guys you can do it too. There's a couple of guys. You can't, obviously there's always going to be a back and forth, but you can't like, so my, my other thing would be is like, so Merle's was saying, he goes, man, like he's a Swede, like he's a type of guy who would just fall in line. So like you're saying if last summer they would, he would have said, Hey, how about eight years at 12 million? The deal, the deal that they offered him now after not having to prove it for a full season, then maybe I see him accepting it. So boom, you just saved yourself six, 6 million bucks, right? I bet the PA made him. It's one of those things, whether if he wanted to stay in Anaheim, like as the union reps and all that, like you need to say yes to that. She's saying he said last year he would have accepted 9 million. I never saw that anywhere. That was a quote from like a, like a paper, like an article he got asked. Like he was just, I think obviously his agent was probably behind the scenes being like, yeah, no, but eight times 1213, that seemed to be a very fair number. Now, if you do get offer sheet, it's something like that. And I know that if her beak was being a bit of a hard nose and it was being dumb about the situation that you would probably be like, screw you, I'm going to sign it. You think there's a world where you could say, before I sign that, go back to Anaheim and say, give me eight times, 15 now where I'm signing this offer sheet. Or I wonder if that's like a loud or is that, but I think he might've done that. I think that's basically what he did where he, I don't know if he knew it was 18 a year that was coming, but like after the call, he went back and said, give me eight times 15. Maybe he did know it was 18. I would do anything to be on these phone calls with her beak and his agent right now. You're saying, you're saying I was told that's exactly what happened that, that they did know about the offer sheet. They went back to the doc said, Hey, give us one more offer. We have something in our back pocket here. I don't think they told them it was 18, but when they went back to him, it was like, Hey, we have something here just to let you guys know. And they still lowball them crazy. Now here's what's nuts. And part of how Philly did this was, and they got that Comcast money, right? Like you're laughing with that. Top five. So the ducks don't give out Samueli as the owner of the ducks. They don't have signing bonuses on these contracts. So like look home has no, it's just salary. The only signing bonus on there, I think is Chris Crider whose deal came from New York. So that was another thing to be like, Hey, we're all, we're giving them this 18 times five, but it's also fucking 97% and bonuses that the Samueli's definitely they do for a reason. They don't do that obviously. And now they got an $18 million bonus July one this year and another $18 million. This guy couldn't even go on his yacht July 4th because you got to fucking sign Leo Carlson to an offer sheet. But I saw this tweet. I wanted to read this because it was interesting. Cause a lot of the, the, the, the discourse of like, wow, this guy does not want to be a doc. Like this is bullshit. So the tweet, the original tweet was, um, it was by Sean Martin 23. I don't know. It says after sleeping on this Carlson offer sheet, here's my take. There are two types of players in this league. Carlson who goes out and wants big money. Then there's McDavid who deserves a blank check, who took less money to help Edmonton's cap situation to go out and build the winning team. But listen, the reply to this tweet is what got me. BK hockey talk. McDavid signed for 16.6% of the cap on his first big deal. That was the eight times 12 or 12 and a half. He took a two year discount and we'll sign another huge contract in two years. Carlson just signed for 17.3% of the cap. The revisionist history has got to stop. So it's like, buddy, based on the cap and where it's going, 18 million. It's not what it sounds like now in a couple of years, it's just different. And the whole fact is that I think he would have loved if Anaheim gave him this deal. I think he would have loved if Anaheim gave him this deal. He probably loves being there. The funny thing was he dropped a video on July 4th of him skating in Sweden, doing stick handle moves with his ducks Jersey on, which I got to kick out because it may be a flyers uni soon, but the flyers fuck. Now it's like, Hey, who's coming after more Tom Martone, but Danny B I'm guessing we'll have him signed after next season. And you think he's going to want to leave if he gets a chance to play with Leo Carlson all of a sudden now. Exactly. Who is there? Who is there tops? I mean, now, now you got Couturier. Who does he have? You just had the big year there who came over. No, he's a winner. Seagrass was their 1C before. Yeah, yeah, but now he gets bumped down. I was thinking the Dvorak, where now Dvorak, who's a true third-line center, he fits in perfectly. So I wouldn't mind if it actually went down. I wish the players could say no. If Anaheim did match it, I wish they could choose. Well, that's straight-up UFA. Right. Let me ask you this question. Can you now, if you're Anaheim, can you trade him? Here's the thing. If you sign an offer sheet, okay, if he signs with Philly and Anaheim doesn't match, Philly can trade him right away. But if Anaheim decides to match the offer, they can't trade him for a year. Okay, wow, okay. So he's not like you would, obviously, or either team would. But what about now while it's in limbo and they have to trade him? He doesn't have a chance to decide. No, because he's a free agent right now. He's not with anyone right now. He's technically with Philly right now. Well, no, but he's restricted, though. Right. Elliot mentioned on 32 Thoughts that Carolina was planning to do that. Carolina was planning to offer sheet someone just to bring them in to then trade them because they could get more on the return than the original offer sheet. So that doesn't mean it was like a guy you were going to be paying $12 million and giving up $4 million. It could have been like one of those ones. I think it was Minyakov. I think it was going to be Minyakov. They were going to offer sheet him for around that $7, $8 million, which I think is like a first, second, and third. And then you can flip him probably for more than that. And has he received an offer sheet? No, he signed. No, he just signed. But he was going to get one. Oh, God. And then we're going to trade him back. Then there was Minyakov's got one coming. I imagine Rabik said, what the fuck is going on? The trap girl's coming in. Elliot said that the original offer was the same. It was Zellweger, which was three by three. They heard the rumor of the offer sheet and then signed him for Brant Clark's deal, which was 7.5 or something. Yeah, that's good for him. I just, yeah, I just don't know how or why Rabik managed it like that. And I would love to get him back on. I won't use the R word when he's back on. But my God, he kind of put them in a bit of a jam here. And the fact that they went back to them and they still lowballed them. Like, clearly. Like, there's the NHL that the fans know and then there's like the real NHL of the shit that's happening behind the scenes. Like, there's. Is there tampering going on? Absolutely. Do I give a fuck? No. Do some of these hardcore fans? Maybe. But it would have been easy for him to know exactly what the number that was going to be coming at Carlson was. The fact that if he wasn't even willing to go eight times 15, even knowing that that was coming, 16 million, and explaining to your owner, hey, here's another thing. Here's another thing, too, man. Maybe Verbeek's landing on the sword and him offering that was the most that the owner was willing to go. Very true. We haven't even talked about that yet. Very true. He might be taking a bullet here right now. Very true. And if it's that owner, then fucking. But he's got to come out and say that because the fans are going to want Verbeek's head on a stick. They have to match it, boys. You get a player like that. You get a guy who is looking like a. I mean, in the playoffs, he was a complete superstar. Now, he hasn't. He hasn't gotten to that other level points-wise, but I think he's so young. He's played two. What has he played? Three years in the first year. He didn't even play half the games. Yeah, in and out. You got to match it. You got to match it, and you got to figure it out. But, boys, it crippled the Ducks. It crippled them. And then Mityakov gets that money, and then they got to sign Gauthier. I heard Gauthier is like, yeah, see you guys in January when he left. Like, God knows what he's going to want. That's a joke. But. And then Seneca is coming. So, they were so set up, and if everyone was signed at the right time or had agreed to take the right dollar, you're laughing, and now it's like, holy shit, this kid is so rich, and he's going to be a UFA when he's 26 years old. Oh, my God. Crazy stuff. So, will they have to. If Anaheim does match, is it the same exact structure with the signing bonus? Yeah, same everything. So, that'll be the. Oh, wow. That's why the Comcast money jams people up. Boys, I think you have. Comcast, Comcast. I think that the league changing forever is like, what's to stop GM's move? What's to stop somebody from offering Bedard 19 and a half right now on an offer sheet? And then it's like. Did you see his last summer skate? I mean. I hope he's okay from that, by the way. Yeah, I'm sure. No, he's an unbelievable player, but if you give him 18 million, you're out of your fucking mind. I'll tell you that. He should. Carlson's getting offered 18. The max, if Chicago wants to sign him to an eight-year deal, he should be making 15 million bucks. Give him 15. But there's some people who think that Bedard's a bigger name, better player. Than Carlson? Well, last year, before he got hurt, I mean, you could really make that argument. He did have a great start. The size factor's a lot different. You think about playoff hockey. But I'm more saying, like, okay, you offer a guy something on an offer sheet, and then you're, like, basically thinking, well, there's no way they won't match, but then the team matches, and you just completely cripple the team. Like, GMs could start just trying to bury teams. So, you nailed it. That's another reason, as a GM, why I would do it. It's like, I want that player, but if I can't have him, I want you playing a premium so your depth suffers. That's the game that I'm surprised that the GMs haven't been playing more of. Oh, it's common now. Wouldn't you be doing more of that against teams in your. in your division and in the East and stuff like that, as opposed to a team out West? Well, as G said, if you genuinely already have a. It's weird that he said that a team already had a deal in place to, like, provide more than that they were essentially giving up for the offer sheet. It's like, well, why didn't the other team just offer sheet them then? Like, maybe they didn't want to be the bad guy, or maybe it was his buddy for some reason. I agree with you, Jans. Maybe do it a little bit more in division, but ultimately it's going to come down to, like, listen, is this a player that we think can change our franchise? Are we willing to come off of four first-rounders for him? Like, and if you're Philadelphia, you're thinking, well, once we get them, we're going to be. Even if they're a cusp team and they don't make playoffs in year one, like, you're still not getting that good of a draft pick. You're getting 10 to. between 10 to 20 in picks. Like, nothing game-changing like Leo Carlson. How many teams do you think wish, and I don't even know if Barkey was, like, in the same situation, but wish that they offered him an offer sheet eight years ago? Like, when you see these guys, what they turn into, they're bringing you Stanley Cups, you know what I mean? Dude, I think it was, for a long time, it was just, like, so taboo of, like, hey, if I bury someone, I could get buried. And it's like, I don't know, this has become so cutthroat and this money has become so insane that it's going to have to be just, hey, I'm on my own here. It's me and my staff, and fuck everyone else. Does that work? I have no idea. But I think in the past, it's been, like, kind of a gentleman's agreement here, like, don't bury me. And it was more of the old boys club, too, where all these guys were all, like, buddy-buddy, and it's a little different now, the guys that are coming in. A little different. Well, you also got, like, the Tulskis, the Chaykas. You got the mad scientists. You got the sunny bettas. Yeah, I'll never be in the old boys club anyway, so fuck them. Here's your offer sheet, bitch. But the final way I'll put it for the Ducks is that you have the best player on your team, a true number one center, which, what is their biz? Nine of them in the league. We could go through the list. So you either lose him, and your team's worse, or you pay him to become the highest paid player in the league for a little while before some other guys sign, and your team keeps getting a little better and better and better, hopefully. Like, it's a no-brainer. I think it's a no-brainer. I think you fucked it up, and now you got to pay the piper on matching it. Why wouldn't they have signed it already, then? I don't know. I don't know. I think because they're probably figuring out how the rest of the money's going to go. and how they're going to snap it around. So not only did either A, the owner being so cheap and not okaying a bigger deal for Verbeek to get it locked in, or Verbeek completely being unaware of what the fuck is going on with how the league is working and how these offer sheets, and we knew one was coming to Leo Carlson. Like, it's a colossal fuck-up, and they're going to pay the piper for it. It's going to make their team worse, and these GMs, man, you just have to be aware of these situations. Like, you have to get the. It's the same reason Demidov just got nine after playing two years. The same reason, because if he goes and does what Leo does, then all of a sudden, they got to pay him 12-13. And he really only played one year. He burnt two years, but remember, he came in with like five games to go. And then this year was great, and then all of a sudden, next year, he lights it up. It's like, Ken Hughes is like, no, no, no, no. No, no, no. And I love that deal, by the way. Any good player right now, like Jack Hughes, he's contracted. Some of these guys are making eight times eight. It's like, this deal just made you look at it and be like, what the fuck? And Larkin now, Larkin is like, he's making what? What does he make? Nine? Eight and change, like almost nine. So it's like, wait a minute. Eisenman's like, I'm not fucking giving this guy away. I wasn't giving him away for anything I didn't love before. Now, if you've got centers making 18 million, yeah, I don't know. This is just, it just changed the market. It's so good. The PA was probably popping up. Oh, yeah. life marty walsh and hainsey just ripping it up in a room like holy fuck we're only going up from here boys but uh a crazy day in the nhl so um we had a lot of other things kind of go down boys a lot of other things robertson has filed for arbitration we mentioned this briefly last week this jason robertson situation i'm so confused boys i'm so confused i think he's being a bit of a headline hog right now i know but i think he just wants a contract just pay the guy am i i think he's playing hardball for what they did to him last time he sat out till i think it was right before training camp or maybe during training i think i said last episode like he shouldn't make more than rontan and i get it but at some point just trade him figure it out now he's going to arbitration so i don't really i don't know what's going on there i don't know what dallas has planned i don't i mean obviously they had the worensky deal that then got nicks we'll get into that but the robertson thing filing for arbitration what the hell would he get in arbitration he just had 98 points yeah what's the highest what's the highest deal ever given out in arbitration that's a hell of a question we should have something we should have researched before hopping on um but i mean usually they get settled usually they get settled before that which i think it has to be done by what sunday i believe what to to file yeah like that that's when the arbitration is shea weber uh 2011 a 7.5 million with the predators on what one year deal or was it like a long-term deal does it say one year deal i think it can only be a one-year deal right yeah usually that's how it's how the predators made him go to arbitration no i think that that was probably the verbique was the gm that was probably the bridge deal yeah exactly exactly he was the consultant was that because then he got offer sheeted i believe from philly right he got philly offer sheeted yeah philly has done this in the past okay philly yeah philly savage um i did want to bring up actually this uh the offer sheet since 2010 you're almost in i forgot that's another one you're almost in sign one with the uh with the sharks the blackhawks matched it it was right after the blackhawks won their first cup shea weber uh matched by the by flyers ryan o'reilly got one from the flames the avalanche matched aho got one from the canadians the hurricanes matched so then the uh hurricanes got back at the canadians by offering yes can call oh yeah they really got them back canadians coke yeah take them bud uh broberg and holloway the oilers obviously did not match good move there and then we got barrett hayton so that's a story where new jersey offered him a one-year deal at where do we wait where do we think robertson ends up uh a lot of people are saying no clover pittsburgh's got a ton of cap space i don't think they they've done a lot of work yet they didn't resign ryan shea mantha's gone mantha's gone so available i i think the fact that that robertson's brother ended up in pittsburgh it kind of seems maybe the bros want to play together they got the money robertson's maybe not happy with dallas and how they're treating him and and but listen like as many regular season points as robertson got as good of a playoff performer as he is i don't know if i'm are you paying him 14 15 million bucks like are you i think the old 12 million dollar martiner um rontan and mckinnon mcdavid number is fucking now that it's gone you can't look at it like that are you as a gm paying robertson 15 million really why not why not he i mean he's doing it because i only want to pay that much money okay and number one defenseman i don't want to pay wingers huge dough agreed i don't want to do it i think you win through the middle you win in net which i also don't want to give goalies big money either so maybe i'm completely uh fucking this statement up but i want to pay number one number one centers since 2020 he's 10th in the league in goal scoring like in like that's fucking something to be said like yeah he's a sniper goal scorer you need to you guys money and it's not like dallas i mean i don't know what they have in the minor league but they're losing guys like well they had that maverick bork and he got a great deal on the move over to nashville um he was coming up through the minors um obviously wyatt johnson's so young i think wyatt johnson's one of those eight times eight yeah where these guys are like what the fuck happened he might get 10 now for big offer your big offer she's some five times five i cut you off because i just want to know what you guys have opinion on was where robertson was going where would you say you think he stays in dallas i think he does i like your pittsburgh take i think the bros ain't broil is i mean as you've been saying but uh yeah i i think he i think he stays i just don't see a world like how can you let him go i don't understand it like you lost stankhoven who just went and won a stanley cup yeah you have wyatt johnson but you need goal scoring to win in this league and he does that year in year out i know but like i said last week they're not winning something's off there they need to switch something up there's something you think you think neil lost his fastball no i think no no might have lost his fastball when our fucking numb nut dickhead producers decided to put his picture next to fucking bonnie blue when we were talking about the porn star on the youtube fucking headline picture four guys got 19 stanley cops and he's fucking on a on a youtube thumbnail with bonnie blue that was my birthday thumbnail those are the dark days of biz bring up bonnie blue fucking ten times an episode she was supposed to jump out of my cake at my party but she canceled last minute thank god i should also mention i didn't did forgot with the robertson thing i i forgot to say that it if he signed if he going to arbitration makes sense because if he gets a one-year deal he's then ufa so maybe he's just like just give me another one-year deal and he'll get 15 or 16 on a one-year deal oh yeah because he'll get 40 goals next year 95 points again and then he's saying from arbitration arbitration now they're and where the number and where the no i don't think you can i don't think you can look at um how does that you oh no you can't look at ufa you you can't look at one type of contract with arbitration and i'm thinking it's ufa because you're rfa and carlson was rfa so yeah maybe maybe that actually helps him a ton he's probably exercising every possibility and right he has right now to then eventually land what he what he gets and they played hardball with him why can't he do it yeah i agree no i i it's just it's just that's what i said at the beginning it's been so long it's been so long about this like robertson traded robertson on the market it's like what's going the guy keeps scoring and scoring and scoring where's robertson going i don't know but maybe sign him that's the one thing like some people like who are listening especially stars fans who like have his back because of how clutch and like you look at sometimes when they they are playing so well in playoffs he's always the guy that steps up the fact that he's done this through all the quote-unquote bullshit that he's had to deal with and not getting the loyalty and love from dallas and then they go out and give rotten in a fucking 12 million dollar deal before they ever signed him to one and i know that they've offered him that now i think he's just kind of taken out his vengeance on on the the owner's budget yeah dude you look at their roster right now like they need him and not only did they not need him next year they need him for the next 10 years like there's no reason why he shouldn't be signed for a long-term extension because he he would have said yes to some of the trades that were being offered right if if he wanted to go somewhere else i bet he wants to stay there and he's getting trying to get as much as he can which i you got to respect it respect respect what you were saying something else with after when we right as we were moving on from i'm reading i'm reading uh yeah i'll get to that in a minute i'm i kind of saved a bunch of tweets is that carlson news broke there were so uh professor hockey so this idea that celebrini will take a massive discount on his first big contract because he's quote cut from the same cloth as crosby seems to overlook the fact that crosby signed for 15.3 percent of the cap on his first deal the equivalent of a deal right now that celebrini would sign for 17.4 a year so that is that if if celebrini signed for 17.4 that's crosby taking the 8.7 on his first deal so yes everything changed with leo carlson sorry to go back to that no no i love it buddy i love it stelle blue coffee's new can lattes are here crafted with 100 percent colombian coffee each can is a good source of protein and comes in two smooth 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Like, obviously, it came out based on the godfather, Elliot, that he vetoed a trade to Dallas. Now, obviously, that means that he had told Columbus something, right? There was rumblings that he had said to them at the end of the year. Now, mind you, we don't know any of this is what's true and what's not, but that he had said he won't be resigning after his deal ends, which is two more seasons. So then they start talking to teams and where he wants to go. I think they assume he wants to go to Dallas. They trade him to Dallas. All of a sudden, he's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. This is as the news had broken that Wierenski wanted out and all this. And all of a sudden, dude, there's smoke everywhere for him. And I don't know if he's seeing everything. Oh, yeah. There was a phone call. The old clip of Laine when Laine kind of insulted the team. I think he'd moved on to Montreal at that point where Wierenski was. Like, like, they see, like, oh, if you don't want to be here and you're not down with here, we don't want you here. And, like, he backed up Columbus and the cannon. And then it comes out that they ended up having a meeting with Waddell and Judd. Can I tell you what my theory is on all this? Of course. Yes. My theory is, is that super agent Judd, who runs the league, he's like, you know what? I won't revenge. Wierenski playing in Toronto, considering all the unbelievable things that they have going on with Gavin McKenna, Bobrovsky, and maybe at that point, Bob hadn't signed yet, but he probably knew because he's a super agent. He knows everything. And then getting Gavin McKenna, Bieber's calling out Matthews to drop the welcome message to Gavin McKenna. I think that Judd wanted to cultivate one of the super teams in the league and all of a sudden, Wierenski's just trying to, you know, get his buns and his hot dogs ready for July 4th. And he's like, what the fuck is going on on Twitter? Yeah. What is going on? He checked Twitter for fun, like, to check the, like, the fucking score of the Detroit Tigers. Joey Chestnuts. And all of a sudden, he's got death threats from Columbus. And I'm a big Wierenski guy. He had the greatest shot in sandbagger history to extend a match. I love him. But I think this is a selfish move on his part to not help create another super team. I'll leave it at that. Well, yeah, in Toronto. In Toronto. Gee, put in the outline, like, where does Wierenski play this next year? At this point, I think it's for sure Columbus. Yeah. I think they came out with team and player statements like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on, everyone. Like, I like being here. Like, obviously, just trying to put out this fire. But Judd is so good at his job. I could see, like, Judd, he kind of does run the league a little bit. But he's got all these. He's got all these superstars. And he's figuring out what he wants to do and where guys want to go. And I'll get this done for you. And then all of a sudden, I guess Wierenski's like, I don't really want to go to Dallas. And boom. Because the guy, there was a trade done. And then it goes back to Nill. Now Nill's got to go to Harley. And like, yeah, buddy, sorry about that. That's a part of this you don't think. Like, Harley signs a huge deal there. And then he finds out I'm being traded to Columbus. Oh, wait, Wierenski said no. Oh, I'm going back. Like, it's a little awkward. Yeah. But it's also flattering. It's, like, flattering. It's busy. To be traded for a guy who just won the Norris. Like, it's one of those things you're like, oh, okay. I mean, at least they think of me as a high return. But, yeah. It's a good way to look at it. I think it's one of those things where I think Judd did it without him saying, without him even asking Wierenski. I am on your page, bitch. He had a couple glasses of red wine. He's like, I'm going to fucking send a text to Waddell right now. Hey, fuckface. Hey, Zach, new phone. Number eight doesn't want to play there anymore. Shoot that candidate up your ass and trade him to the Leafs. And if you ask for knives back, I'll have your job removed. Bitch. How do you guys think the call went? What do you think the call was like? Buddy, whenever I get a call from Judd, I put it on speaker. I'm like, I'm in the car. It's already on speaker. I'm in the car. I'm like, I'm going to get 30 minutes of some unbelievable stuff, man. Stuff I never repeat on here, obviously. No. But, like, the way he talks and how confident in his ability is, I fucking love it. Amazing. So, picturing him on the phone. I'm on the phone with GMs. I'm like, oh, my God. Like, this guy, he don't give a fuck. He cares about one thing, and it's the client he's talking about. And that's it. And I think that's really what you want as a player. Like, this agent, he's going to bat for me. And as he says to me. You maybe don't want him cultivating trades that you don't want. That would be one. Yeah. But, hey, at the end of the day, he's trying to go above and beyond for his client after a couple glasses of red. He's also helping his other client. Matthews. That's what I mean, dude. That's the main guy. It was a double whammy. So, Wierenski, I think he stays in Columbus for two more years. No, my prediction is he's going to be Quinn Hughes. They're going to start the year. They're not going to be in a playoff spot. Marty, I think Columbus is coming. I think Bones, that postseason Game 82 press conference, Fantilli could have a big time year. By the way, Fantilli could get off her sheet. They say it every year. That's the Blue Jackets' complaints. Every year, it's the year. Was I reading a Burner account or maybe Judd's Burner account? Did I hear that Marchenko is not resigning there after he's done? Or is there rumblings? I feel like somebody sent that to us. Apparently, there was a deal for him to Montreal with a huge return. And they didn't want to do it. I think Columbus is going to be Columbus. Marchenko is nasty. If I'm Columbus, okay, and I agree with you. You think with Bones' end-of-the-year statement, which, listen, we were joking around about the Judd stuff. Maybe the fact that the coach saying that in the postseason press conference, Wierenski, fresh off a gold medal, is like, am I really going to burn my prime years with a team where we had to trade coaches because we can't even get guys that are motivated enough to come to the rink and win and make playoffs, and we can't get out of this right? I love a lot of things about Columbus. I want them to win. They're the underdog organization that, no matter how many games they're winning in a season, the fans are still showing up, packing that building, and make it a rowdy environment. But if they're sitting 12th spot in the division, and you're halfway through the season, you have to think, guys, it's clear that Wierenski's probably not going to resign here. It's clear. Let's get the best. The best possible return. And guess what? If it is the Leafs, I know there was rumblings on the fact that they were, no, boys, you're laughing, but their name came up. Yeah, no, I know. If he went there at the number that he's making, and they don't have to send back nyes, if that's the case, and that was one of the rumblings that was happening on Twitter, the same rumblings that were saying that Bobrovsky was going to sign with the Leafs, that everybody was like, oh, yeah, Bobrovsky. Bobrovsky's going to sign with the Leafs. So what I'm saying, if they're able to make that return, the Leafs are like a top three team in the East. They are. Would you not call them somewhat of a super team if they ended up getting Wierenski? And obviously, if that is the case, Riley's coming off the books as well to fit him in. So I would say that they're a top three destination if Zach Wierenski ends up getting traded. Now, now, the realistic. The realistic trade, if that is the case, if they can get back nyes, and you know that he's not coming back, do you make that trade? If Toronto knows he's not coming back? How do you know that he would sign in Columbus? Oh, in Columbus. Yeah, yeah. He's already signed. Wierenski, or excuse me, nyes, I believe, does not have a no move, at least in the first few years of his deal. So he doesn't have a say in this. So if you're a team that knows you're losing your number one D man, Zach Wierenski, and you know you can shell a huge return, I guarantee, the Leafs are in win-now mode, man. Like, they got to do everything they can to impress Austin. You're laughing because this is turning into a Leafs thing, but stop laughing. Can you agree with me that they were the frontrunner to land him, considering he nixed the Dallas trade? Do you not think that Judd was concocting a- Well, did they land him? No, yeah. I'm guessing that that was a place he said he'd go to. But, like, the Leafs don't. Yeah, they don't have first-rounders coming up. I'm. But I'm telling you, though, if you're going back to the Quinn Hughes situation, if you can get back Nyes, who's locked up for another power forward and get you 30 goals, who's making just under $7.5 million, you make that deal halfway through the year if you're not in a playoff spot. And he's saying, hey, guys, it's time for me to move on. Yeah, and you could probably get something else too, although they just don't have it. He's going to be Quinn Hughes if they're not in a playoff spot next year. I know we're saying, oh, he wants to stay there. Everything got squashed and we're all good now. If that team's losing halfway through the year, he's the next Quinn Hughes. And he has every right to do that too because what he's done for that organization has been incredible. But I honestly think he could be one of those guys, and I don't know him like that, but he could be one of those guys who says, oh, I want to play here the rest of my life. In this statement, it was like, I talked to my wife. She wants to be here. I want to be here. It could just be a good fit for them as a family. But does Judd want to be there? That's true. That is fucking true. Well, you mentioned Bobrovsky, and he signs a three-year deal with Toronto. Yeah, I was surprised. I was more surprised because then the news breaks, so then Florida decides, all right, we're going to go with Markstrom. Markstrom was in Florida. I was there with him. I was in the minors with him, but he got called up at the end of the year, a super prospect at the time, and has really, I think he's inconsistent. Ronnie's incredible. When he's off, it's kind of ugly, and the Panthers talk about a super team. They're loaded, and now they're like, all right, we're going with Markstrom. Bob's gone. I don't understand why they didn't re-sign Bob. You know, his regular season wasn't great, but look how much he's played. I just thought they'd keep riding this thing. They got two with him. Why don't you give him a three-year deal or whatever he wanted? I don't know if they have the cap space, but I just thought Bob would stay there. I think he was asking for that money, though. I think they wanted him to stay there, but I think he was asking for the money that he got. What did he get, $7 million? He got three years, 21. Yeah, they couldn't afford that, and it's kind of one of those things. It's like, if you're not going to help us out, then you got to go, right? I don't know. Bob, his first couple years in Florida was not— He was the worst contract in the league. It was shit constantly. It was always talked about. I would have figured he would have been like, you know what? I wasn't great the first three years here. Let me give you guys a bargain deal, and let's try to fucking win one or two before the end of my deal. I can sign for three, four million bucks. We can maybe even bring in another guy, but I think it's just a money thing that happened down there, and you see what happened. I had heard he was going out to L.A. I guess this one makes sense. Maybe he was pissed that they wouldn't give him the money that he wanted, and he's like, you know what? Fuck it. I'm staying in the East, and you're going to see me a couple times a year. That's crazy. You talk about seven in Toronto. You're telling me a four-year deal at five and a half? Can't get that done? No shit. Buddy, they gave Gudis a six-year contract. They gave Marshy a six-year contract. Just do what you do. Make it seven years at fucking three million bucks a year. I don't understand it. I agree with you, Jens. You guys, too, saying the front part of when they got him and when he's signed it, he wasn't very good. Alex Lyon got him in a fucking playoff so he could actually turn his career around and show that he can play in playoffs. Then he bangs off two in a row. I would love, love to see that group chat. Do they have to remove Bob from the group chat? How does that work? How does that work, Keith? We never had him. Do they leave, or does a player just remove him? No, I think it. I mean, any time I've been on, you just say, see you, boys, and then you're out. You remove yourself. How do you say, if you're Bob, how do you say bye like that? I would be like, hey, I pranked you two years ago. I fucking pranked you three months ago. Fuck you. Peace out. I'm bye. Because, like, you just mentioned it. Look at all these guys who essentially lowered their AAV to just take longer deals to just make it all work with that group. To just cheat the cap completely. Which is fine. I don't give a shit. Circumcise whatever the fuck you want. Chop it off. But, do you think that, do you think he's able to get back to the level he was at, at his age? Do you think he, do you think he essentially needed this challenge in order to prove that he could do it somewhere else? I think he's one of the hardest working players I've ever played with. Never mind goalies, players I've ever played with. I don't think he'll have any, I mean, he might have, he might start off a little bit slower because it's a new team, new system, they do everything differently, but he's one of those guys, man. He works his fucking ass off every single, like, day in, day out. So, I don't, I don't imagine him aging like other guys do. I think the goaltending position, you can play a little bit older if you take care of yourself like that. Like, you look at guys like Flower played late, Luongo played late. Like, some of these high-end Hall of Fame guys, they play long into their, you know, late 30s, early 40s. So, I think he's got the, the mental, you know, state of the game to, to do it as long as he wants. It's just one of those things. Like, I truly think him signing in Toronto was a fuck you to Florida for not giving him what he wanted. Because I, I think it. But he made, he's made before this deal 120. Fucking beautiful. And you're telling me, like, you won the two cups there and. Like, you have your house in Florida. Yeah. And you have to go somewhere, buy another seven to ten million. And do we know what they offered him? Did that come out, G? I thought I had heard maybe five million for a year or two, but, I mean, how can you not take that? I know. And they. Is Judd his agent? No. Oh. No. You'd think. But 120, you get the two cups, you're in Florida. It's Juddinov. It's a, it's a guy in Russia. If, if, if I would have hopped off the wagon and they would have got Bob and got Wierenski without hopping off of Nye's, I, I would have no shoelaces. I would have no shoelaces. But you'd have a little tiny fish to grill tonight. I would. I'd have a little fish stick. Okay. But back to Florida. So Florida, they got Marky now and they, they have the rest this year. They have Brady. They, they have a legitimate super team. And they got Gudis as a goalie too. And Gudis is a goalie. But it's like, wow, they're, they're just, they're throwing it all on the table with Marky. Like that's, I think it's a little risky. Now they could be looking at it and like, buddy, we watched the Devils play. They give up fucking grade eight chances all night long. We're going to be like, lock it down. You know, we make them 22 saves, giving us three, two victories. Maybe that's the thought. And is Rob Tallis still the goalie coach there? Yeah. Okay. So he was there when I was there, when Marky was there. So maybe he's saying familiar with him. Yeah. He's saying something like, Hey, I love this guy. He's got crazy skill. Yes. Inconsistent, but we can win with them. But that was interesting. Jersey. I'm interested to see if, if, if Marky can kind of get over that. Mental hurdle, like in a sense of like, like, yeah, like I, I love him. He's an elite goalie, um, you know, and, and extremely well liked, which will help integrate them into that locker room even easier. Although he probably knows, like, he probably knows five, six of the guys already that he's already played with down there. I'm pretty sure Barky was there when he first got there. Like, uh, who was there? Yeah. Kulikov was probably there in his first stint. But, but, but like what I'm saying, if, if I'm looking and I'm at a round table, if I'm saying, Hmm, would I rather have Bob at that number and trusting a guy who's been there, done it and the hardest worker in the league, or am I going to trust this guy who like, like Marky's never brought anyone to the dance, right? Like he's never done that as a starting goaltender. That's what he's gonna have to do. I watched him do it in the AHL with the, the, the Utica comments and he was tremendous, right? And then that's what kind of propelled his NHL career again, going to Vancouver and playing well there. So it's a little bit of a risky move in a sense of like, we've never seen the ceiling for Markstrom. We already saw it with Bob. Why wouldn't you at least try to come close and then just jack up the term? So let's say Zito has made in that organization have made so many unbelievable decisions to get where they are. Let's see if this is one of them. But this could also be a classic overthink when it's like you have an elite world-class future hall of fame, goaltender that you've disrespected. And now he's playing on, on another super team up north. And they had the goalie that just won the Stanley cup and they put them on waivers. Yeah. Okay. The goalie coach. I want to bring in Pasha for a second. He sure gets done. That's a, that's a, that's a great deal. You love, you never wanted to trade. He sure. I respect you on that. You love the guy. I love that contract last week. Now with everything that's happened, I really fucking agree. That's one that that's one that's like, Holy shit. Right. After the Carlson thing. But my question is, I don't know. The question would be, so it's Jake Allen and, and Nico Dawes. Like, is that, that's, that's what you're going. Yeah. I don't know. Listen, this whole, like you went from a, you know, you had your starting goalie and then the last few years, it's a one, two punch. Now you got the one, two, three combo. You saw Carolina run it. It looks like your Edmonton Oilers might be doing the same. Listen, it couldn't get worse than it was last year with Marky. And I agree. I think Marky is going to do great in Florida. I wish him all the best. As you know, the Panthers are my second favorite team, so I hope he does great for every game unless they're playing the Devils which I think you will but yeah I mean it couldn't be worse than it was with Markey last year and you know injuries aside the Devils did decently when they had you know relative health so I think I think the platoon system will be okay for them they let go of Dave Rogalski who was their goaltending coach for a long long time and Devils fans were kind of calling for his head for quite a while so I think changing that position will help out a lot it's kind of seen like every goalie that went to the Devils started struggling um so yeah listen it's far from a sure thing but uh I'm cautiously optimistic okay and now take me through um the the Barrett Hayton it's just a kind of a random one-year deal offer sheet where I think they don't I love that yeah this was it's sunny it's sunny touching his toe in the water and then watch next year the year after he's going to be coming in hot with so you're a big fan of him Keith I love Sonny yeah great guy yeah okay yeah he he seems like the man I love what he's done so apparently there was a deal in place of the draft to do a trade a handshake deal for Hayton to be traded to the Devils and Utah backed out at the very last second so apparently Sonny was pissed about that and he this this offer sheet's very conniving there's layers to it because now first of all it was basically for like one penny less than what like the next tier of uh compensation picks would have to be but also if Utah everyone's like oh it's a one-year thing like Utah is going to match but if Utah matches as you discussed earlier they can't trade him for one year which will walk him right to free agency which most likely they'll lose him to free agency so I mean I could see this going both ways it's cutthroat it's cutthroat and you know a bit of vengeance there I love to see it I love Sonny kind of just showing up out of a trade too like like it's not like he's not doing he's not doing it unprovoked exactly exactly and I love to see that sort of pettiness that bloodthirstiness whatever Sonny wasn't even there for that trade no no at the draft this year oh it's a draft though I thought you said the deadline sorry yeah no at the draft so then so uh Barrett Hayton that was that's a John Chica disciple I wanted to ask you quickly about Barrett Hayton so fifth overall pick I think eight years ago two years ago he had 20 two years before that he had 19 in between both years like injured and not like what is there something left to be desired there he's a big guy right which the devil's knee yeah yeah so he's got size I think he's uh deceptively fast maybe doesn't look it because of the way his stride is uh he has a very unique release like I like he's able to really get like his shot off quick and it seems to trick goalies but I think that there's still a little bit left to be desired like I would not be shocked if he ended up on a team where he got a little bit of confidence where he ended up becoming exactly what they thought he was when he was drafted I you know like a 30 goal guy like like a 30 goal 60 point guy I could see him see him being an un like like if he's a third line center making four and a half five million bucks and he's getting regularized time and he can get you 22 to 25 goals I think that's an unbelievable job like he I don't think he I think through the process of like getting sent down having to play a little bit in the minors and developing and and kind of slowly coming up now and also when you're fifth overall sometimes you you can't really fly under the radar there's like a lot of pressure for you to develop I don't think it's necessarily like been there and he hasn't really been in the spotlight especially being in Phoenix and then now Utah I think that that he could be one of those guys that finally like you know at mid 20 range finds his game and he's going to be a good guy how old is he now he's got to be like 25 26 yeah I think he's 25 26 he just turned 26 but I mean it's he's pretty thick too like he's not like a skinny guy either like he's I I think at what they offer shooting him for that amount of money it's an absolute no-brainer and I hope that he ends up in New Jersey to get a fair shake and I think that just being on the east coast will open up people's eyes to like how good he actually is I think he's good I agree but yeah I think I think he'd be a great 3c for the devils and he does bring that size and he's very good defensively but I don't want to get my hopes up too much because I did see tonight Andy Strickland said you can expect Utah to match it yeah they got dialed in they got it but but then also you're most likely going to lose him for nothing in a year yeah that's crazy or he has a good first half of the year and you re-sign him and or are you you're saying that you can't no matter what you can't trade him this year right no matter what you can't trade him for a full year that's such a weird that's such a weird rule it should almost work both ways that you can't trade him for a year if he if you match and you can't trade him like the fact you can trade him if you if he signs your offer sheets crazy you don't think they'd have like a conversation with him before and be like hey will you re-sign here if we you know match this offer sheet Elliot said the relationship between him and Utah had started to erode so there was obviously there's something there yeah so it's interesting yeah maybe they let him go but in the Markstrom deal I love getting Evan Rodriguez love that man now now he kind of like isn't what you need based on like the undersized guys you have but he he's fucking awesome he I remember he can play up and down your lineup I remember him at BU and I think it was the year Eichel was there and he popped off playing with Eichel but a no like not an NHL prospect at the time or like a big one and he's made a hell of a career I mean dude think how good he was in those finals so that's a guy coming to the Devils that's one like just almost the experience of winning helps a lot and then who else plays a plays a hard-nosed game like you said Jens up and down the lineup what killed the Devils in the last few years is lack of depth their big big guns show up you know like basically what you expected them but they've had zero depth score in the last two years so Rodriguez will help a lot with that hard-nosed game and then getting getting Boquist back you know I was not happy that they let him go a few years ago okay I think he's you know a great fourth liner can play third line like can skate well so I love bringing him back so Sonny made has done a good job of filling in the depth on the bottom two lines but still they need an elite top six winger Cypher I've been saying that for years and I still think they're gonna make a move for one for who should I offer she did Leo I think it's gonna be a sneaky a sneaky name that no one's really talking about I think I Sonny's gonna pluck a guy because the guys that I talked about like the Cairo's and stuff those guys are no longer on the board so he doesn't even know he can't even think of a name but he knows it's gonna be sneaky but he's he's he's like the fucking butler and Mr. Deeds very very sneaky and he's very very sneaky so I don't know I don't know I think they're gonna be fucking mid again and Jackson will want to go over to Minnesota that that that uh Bill Guerin was kicking tires on Jack Hughes okay that was the dumbest fucking the the thing was Russo who said that Guerin is called New Jersey about Jack Hughes no fucking shit like obviously obviously Guerin would want Jack Hughes if anything it shows me that he's a little bit antsy that Quinn might not resign that he's like fuck let me get Jack here to help oh you're trying to do the uno reverse well it's just like yeah I like that Jack Hughes and also it came out that there's been no no progress uh in contract talks with with Quinn in Minnesota and again I'm just as a wild fan that it came out this morning that they haven't progressed in talks because uh Brisson and Guerin have both been too busy with other things what is more important than getting Quinn Hughes's contract again like Quinn and Jack are gonna be on the Rangers hey so Quinn and Kale McCarr could both sign tomorrow right yeah holy fuck when are those extensions gonna drop wild it's a game of checking of like one of them's waiting I don't want to you know I know who's gonna be the bad guy first no just like Kaprizov Kaprizov took the bullet and now fucking what's Burrell's gonna say about Leo signing for 18 hey well his hands were forced I know Burrell did not love that a sweet did that he has the dog of now he has shambles she just brought this up in the chat it is crazy we're talking McCarr we're talking Quinn Hughes I mean both guys if they signed for 20 a year I'm not blinking an eye Bo Byram is currently the highest paid defenseman in the NHL that is fucking crazy it's kind of crazy boys he's never been a number one he's never been a number two I legit I love him I'm not coaching my camp this week I'm doing the camp I'm making a comeback you could make five now buddy if you fucking trained your dick off all summer and somebody gave you a chance and then the power play d-man went down early in the year and you were on a one-year 850 deal get your coin end up getting you could end up getting a two-year like 10 total deal perfect Klingberg style that's Klingberg no hips opening up everywhere so I met him uh and got to talk to him in Jackson when I first got here I told you guys on the last pod Bo Byram Bo Byram hey he didn't even have open bar no no it was ticketed event at his wedding in Snow King you could you had to walk up the mountain he didn't even pay for the tram he wouldn't even decide to bring the fish that he caught it fucking it it fed a rat in the kitchen Ratatouille Ratatouille yeah I was uh but that's a that's a heavy heavy tag i don't i don't agree with how chicago did business on this one no like the whole thing is it was the hard part is is you can't tamper right you can't hey like they couldn't yeah exactly i talked to a front office guy in the league um on the phone the other day who told me that the craziest part of that deal was that crevier was thrown and he's like crevier's fucking awesome he's gonna be an awesome bottom pair guy he goes when i saw that that was part of it i almost puked that's exact words whoa and all of a sudden too like you if you're if you're buffalo like you you now have like you you had to go pick up logan stanley you had to pick up shen to add some toughness um like because like we've talked about power power is obviously in their top three defensemen and he he's not gonna play that like killer physical game but i think you can get that out of crevier so it kind of frees the other guys up you don't gotta pay him jack squat they already got guys that can do what bo byram does so when you're when you're looking at buffalo like that is like they won that three trade three times over yeah and the fact that he ends up getting paid have to get paid that much like he had him by the balls man like come on bo byram bo byram should be making 10 million bucks 10 million bucks and even that i i actually think like if he signed that deal because it's five years of 12 and a half right it's beautiful six six years 12 and a half like if he signed six years at nine aav i'd be like yeah i get it yeah 12 and a half more a year but he had the same money as mcdavid the next year next two years yeah you can't even say that i mean we did joke before but that was fucking brutal that video speaking of chicago of of of a badard like i never saw it oh bro that's because you're fucking fishing for fucking moby dick in the in the creek river that moby's dick but no this he's battling in the corner playing three on three cross eyes and all of a sudden you hear like and he's skating off grabbing his shoulder like guessing i'm bad guess dr whitney here whatever happened to him during the season he didn't have surgery on and it just happened again so say it's dislocated shoulder like i would be i wouldn't be shocked if all of a sudden we hear like yeah he's gonna get it fixed now like and he didn't want to do the surgery and was good but you know it was the same shoulder so something it happened again whatever it was i know that's a fucking bummer now it's only july july 6 but oh i thought you had seen the video no because i know because you said what like you talked about the number i said why do you think he's not gonna make that because i said his play like i don't think he's an 18 19 million dollar guy do you think this affects what what he's being offered by chicago right now like do you think that affects these contract negotiations the fact that he got injured training no that number is affecting the badard and celebrini and obviously fantilly's not that level but there was one tweet that said if anaheim matches the cost of one that philly's just gonna give it to fit give one to philly and he's gonna get injured training one to phantilly at a lesser number why wouldn't they right i still think phantilly's gonna be sick yeah they got their two center the only problem for doing it to phantilly is like you wouldn't have those first rounders anymore to give up no because i'm saying i'm saying if anaheim matches oh okay they're gonna do it they just do it again okay okay do it till someone till you get someone okay guys we're gonna take a moment here and talk about phantilly and i'm gonna talk about phantilly and i'm gonna talk about pin golf pin golf is a golf tech company that makes products to help you play better golf and have more fun on the course range finders speakers and the caddy gps tablet the range finders are phenomenal they have you can use 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know because you said always and everybody said if if uh nurse was making six and a half no one would ever be talking about i agree nine and a half is six and a half now no not really with d because byram's the highest fucking paid defenseman at 12 and a half we don't have one of those 20 million dollar defensemen yet being that's the biggest part but dude that's pretty good i mean and also i want to say i want to say i hope when darnell goes back to edmonton like there's a big round of applause for him like the guy for sure yeah it was it was it was too high of a contract they they overpaid but fuck he played hard he was pretty good a lot of times man it was one of those things where it was just too much money but fuck he played hard obviously the guys loved him and now he moves on to san jose and guys love him yeah and then at the same time he goes out and gets freddie anderson i love that deal one year deal he got devon levi from buffalo so now they got the jari and pasha mentioned this the three-headed monster i don't think that they probably start the year with three but anderson there that's like the best goalie the oilers have ever had since mcdavid's been there absolutely right yeah i mean he's just coming off a stanley cup he's a guy that is gonna get you wins yeah i think 100 he's the best goalie they've had since fucking liquid duane probably i don't know i mean i think it's a i think it's a great trade obviously maybe he's getting a little older he's not going to play 65 games but you gotta you're gonna spread the wealth up in other spots too all right considering stoff has his hand shoved up wits ass and he's his puppet right now i'll give stan bowman a couple clicks yeah i got anderson and got off nurse for a for a 22 year old defenseman and he got shazo so you got ryan shay biz ryan shay who grinded and grinded he got a five-year deal for 20 million bucks he had dude i i well i retweeted something ryan shay at the 12th most five on five points in the last year he had more than eric carlson daryn radish charlie mcavoy roman or even even i'm assuming d-man but i mean he had more than heskin he had more than schaefer so he can move the puck he's making five million four million bucks which is more than half of what you know darnell was making and he can pk that was good those were good moves he made good moves he re-signed kapanen kapanen's money in the playoffs uh they re-signed dick they got the conor murphy deal done their d's nice i'm telling you it was a good off season and maybe they're not done it was a good off season for the oilers stan bowman did some work on july couple clicks bunny a couple clicks no red cards yeah now the sharks on the other hand yeah sharks let's talk sharks sharks on the other hand they're paying some insane money to some defensemen that i don't i yeah i respect jacob truba he's a fucking killer he'll run you through the door he'll run you through the door he'll run you through the door he'll run you through the wall put his elbow through your temple he plays like a complete man child out there i honest to god thought he'd get like maybe four or five million bucks a year he signed for four year deal for 8.2 a year and darnell's making 9.25 san jose has to have respectable respected veterans in the locker room man they're so young they got nobody on the back end like i get these contracts are an overpayment like nobody is nobody is denying that one they have so much fucking money to spend that they had to spend it somewhere true yeah do i do i agree that that's the place they should have spent it no but if there's nobody else available and nobody else willing to go there why not why not Why don't make your back end bigger and tougher? So you actually like the guys. You're just saying the numbers are a little high, but you like the guys there. I would like them in playoffs. When playoffs start, those are the type of D you want to have going during the regular season. And they got Mason Marchment. Mason Marchment was a nice signing. Yep. Yeah, and like Trouba, you go back to a few years ago when they were struggling in New York. He had that game against Chicago where he got in the scrap, throws the helmet. You need big, tall, mutant D-men who have leadership and veteran qualities. And they need veteran presence in that locker room to help. Listen, I don't know Trouba personally. He seems like a good guy. He seems like he's well-liked. We just said the same thing about Darnell. So you got to also find guys who are not only veterans but are well-liked that are going to be received well there to keep those other guys happy. I'm not saying. Like, who knows? Celebrini and Smith and these younger guys are like, by the time they get on the ice and see what they're providing for the money they get, they might be rolling their eyes saying to their agent, get me the fuck out of here. I don't know. But A, I respect the Sharks for making that move and solidifying those two positions. In this case, with them having that much money and them having Celebrini and Smith and a few of those other younger guys cheap, at least for next year, those deals will be over before you know it. Yeah. And who the fuck else were they? Who the fuck are they going to get? No. And they just crushed it at the draft. They had a great draft. So it's one of those things where if you can bring those guys in, have them around. The biggest thing that when the league's getting younger is having those older guys around who are still serviceable, can still play you good minutes. Like, Jacob Troube is a warrior on the ice. I actually wouldn't have cared about the number if it was a three-year deal. It's that fourth year. It's like, but I think to get them to go there, that was probably, I bet you a lot of teams were offering them three years. Right. Or two years. And then he gets the fourth year. Yeah. It's for Earhoff, our boy, who just got drafted there. The earlobe off. No, Verhoff. But let's say Verhoff is able to go there this year and step in. And he's a 7th D man. He's in and out of the lineup. You need Trouba and you need Darnell Nurse teaching him off-ice habits. And let's say he pans out where he's snapping it around and he's in the lineup every night. All of a sudden, let's say he's lined up with Darnell and or Trouba. That's a D pairing that's making fucking an average of four and a half to five million per guy. And it's also, you have a young D man that both of those guys will fight for him. They'll let him have his ice. They'll get him the puck. Let him do his thing. You need to have these guys around. Guys like that. I get it. The money might seem crazy right now, but to bring in a lead, he was the captain of the New York Rangers. He knows what he's doing in a locker room. He knows how to handle all types of situations. So, yeah, I mean, it's not our money at the end of the day. Who gives a fuck? And I'm happy for him. So Darnell ends after, Darnell's got four more years too. So they're probably thinking, you know, maybe that third year of their deal we're possibly trying to win the conference. I'm guessing it's not going to be before then, but all of a sudden in four years, they're both coming off the books when they're really in like, if the way it looks with the draft this year and all these guys, you know, five years from now is like, could be, really go time if it hasn't, you know, really started yet. So buddy, you could trade those contracts. Like somebody will take them, you know, for one year, take a second rounder. You're all good. I actually. Oh, that was a nice one. That was fucking, it was, it was like 6.5 a year, I think. Let me find it here. 6.75 a year on a five-year deal. That's awesome. And his dad passed away a few years ago, worked for San Jose, played in San Jose. So, you know, he's going to be going, you know, he's going to be going, you know, he's playing for something bigger too, right? I love that. I played with Marchie in Florida, a guy who battles his ass off. He works so hard in practice every day, like making other guys better. He's got one of the best sticks that just gets in the way. He's one of those guys who just gets in your way. You know what I mean? But at one of those big, big, tough forwards, he's going to be hard to play against every night. And, you know, the way that that division is, like you need those guys. And we forgot to mention Dickinson too, who's a young defenseman. G put in the chat, like you were raving about him. So you could have a few guys who are making cheap money on the back end for San Jose. Yeah, for a couple more years. For a couple more years. Yeah, and I guess you're right, because Verhoff, I don't think he'll go pro this year. So then he comes in, and as his deal ends, Trouba and Nurse would be coming off the books. But if he had, I mean, they just had their rookie camps, right? Like if he impresses, you don't think that they would? I don't know, man. He went young to college. He went early to college. Yeah, that's true. And then Verhoff's going back. Verhoff's definitely going back to North Dakota next year. Okay. There it is. What if he has a sick camp? He can't go to camp. He can't go to camp if you're a – What? If he was still in junior, he could have. But if you're in college, you can't go to main camp. Which is surprising now that you can't based on like there's no rules. Right. But maybe it's because camp is when you're already in school and you're skating every day. So it kind of is like one or the other. You don't go to camp. You don't go to camp until you turn pro. All right. But John Carlson, boys, kind of shocking that Carolina traded for his rights. It seemed like, oh, usually – you know, Keith, that happened with you. Florida traded for your rights. You signed the deal with Florida. It seems to be that most times when an upcoming UFA rights get traded before July 1st, they sign with them. But he ends up in Tampa on a two-year deal, eight and a half a year. I love it. Kind of replaces Radish. Doesn't have the bomb, but probably a better – He does, though. Remember when he was – Not Radish. Not Radish. But he has a cannon. Like, when they would take away Ovi, when guys would – when I was on the Rangers, we would just, like, shadow Ovi and have Girardi, who was a goalie, stand in front of him, and Carlson would be ripping. He's got a cannon. Okay. Okay. So, yeah, that's a good move. He stays, you know, in that – well, actually, fuck, they're in the Atlantic, so it's not the Metro. But stays in the East where he wanted to be. So I like that signing. 60 points last year. I know. Biz. Keith just brought him up. Ovi's back, baby. Oh, yeah. Ovi's back. Ovempic. You called it. You called it. I thought with Tuck and all the – what did he say? Ovempic. He did look skinny in the picture, though. Oh, he's on it. He's on it. Dude, like you said. His wife's a very unattractive girl, huh? Holy shit. Putin had him cook up a new peptide in the Wuhan labs. Really? Yeah. Ovi's wife was standing over him. Him and his two boys, just like an absolute rocket master of the clan. I'm like, okay, okay. I see what Ovi's work was. And listen, we mean that with the ultimate level of respect. His wife is the greatest goal scorer in the history of the game of hockey. Of course he's going to have a rocket launcher Russian wife, Fembot. So good for Ovi. He's back one more year. Washington's good, dude. Washington's forwards are fucking huge. Jason Greger sent out a tweet. They're all enormous, dude. Massive. Are we still in agreement that Ovi should be able to, like, just take whatever steroids he wants if he keeps playing? Yeah. I'm pretty sure that's why he's coming back. You made the rule. He put it in. Washington signed Boone Jenner. That's a great sign. That's another good depth add. Oh, my God. He's a great third line center for them. Washington's coming back with a vengeance. Alex Tuck's huge. Tuck's a big boy. Like, they're big and fast. Those Russian guys they got that they made in the lab. Protoss brothers. They got the two twin Protosses. They're both monsters. Tom Wilson's killing people. You bring in. Boone Jenner, a captain of Columbus for all those years. Ryan Leonard. Ovi's back. Ryan Leonard's maybe, like, undersized compared to them, but he plays hard. That's a fucking. Yeah. Kairou, man. Washington's going to be nice. That might be my undercover sneaky pick with the good goaltending that they have with Thompson. Hudson looked good last year at the end of the year. Oh, yeah. He'll be running the power play. Washington, in my mind, is clear cut second best team in the Metro after Carolina. Like, who else is not the shit bagged New Jersey Devils? I'll tell you that for free. No, they got the three headed monster goalie. Like, you had not the Rangers, not the Islanders. I don't. Yeah, I don't know. You'd be hard pressed to find a team like Washington, where after they were like the Oshie days were over. Like, I'm like, oh, they're going to go days. Kind of right. Remote or back from Oshie. I meant to say, oh, she not John Carlson. They got rid of Carlson. I don't know. I'm like, everybody thought that they were going to fall off a cliff. They have done the complete opposite. So, hey, perhaps off. I think it a lot has to do with Carberry and what like guys. Well, it looks like guys want to play for him. What's the GM again in McPhee? No, no, he's he's in Vegas. No, Chris Patrick. Chris Patrick. Oh, that's right. If we're given clicks to Stan Bowman, I'm going to suck the dick off that guy's torso in Washington. Okay. Okay. That's the difference. And if he's getting clicks, he should get a gummer. Okay. We got a shout out. We got a shout out. It's you doing it. Yeah, sure. Ryan Smith in Utah. They went to work. They went to work, boys. They get Vinny Trocheck. I mean, I love that. I didn't think he'd go out West, but surprisingly, he's out West with Utah. They get Anders Lee on a three-year deal. 5.4 million. Can't believe he's not on the Islanders. They just didn't want to. They didn't want to give him. I don't know. Trocher. Coach was wearing garments when we did our sandbagger, I knew that was comment what's a garment that's what mormons wear oh really garments no when they soak what is a garment they wear like white garments under their clothes it's a it's a mormon thing oh so they wear oh that's like their underwear uh kind of it i think it's like a is this a onesie uh no i believe it's a two-piece thing okay yeah can we get some uh gee do you know anything about that do you have any yeah so mormon garments are a special modest undergarment worn by adult members of the church of jesus christ of the latter-day saints they're a physical reminder of sacred covenants made by god symbolizing personal purity and a commitment to living virtuously through christ a christ-centered life i don't think he thought at miller definitely didn't have one on no he didn't he was not he refused to wear the garments he refused and i think that that ultimately troach thought that that pink whitney would not affect him if he had his garments on but also at the fact that he knew that he was going to utah okay fair enough why didn't you think he'd go out west just from being in the east a lot of those guys want to stay i just i i don't know i thought well i i definitely thought he could go to minnesota but i just figured he kind of wanted to be on the east um but i mean utah's looking good i mean andersley another captain captain on the move boone jenner's on the move brady left um so i think utah got became a better team you know absolutely i think they like you know they got two great forwards did they do anything else uh i would imagine too like cooley's a pittsburgh guy i would imagine they skate together in the summer i'm sure he's telling them it's unreal true but to bit so i i like that and i mean it's a familiar face too i'm sure he's buddies with him if they from the same place so i think it's a great deal for them and i mean they look great biz you've been on them for a while they they were awesome in playoffs fun to watch this team is like how many years does troach have left two i thought it's also like i think it's i think it's three is it three okay wow but but ultimately you're looking for troach you're probably looking listen i just had a year from hell our team couldn't even score at home last year we're not going to be good in new york now you have this up-and-coming utah team where like they're they're going to be in the mix to make playoffs the next two three years like they're on the rise like he makes five six five six is now fucking league minimum yeah so um but uh dersey's good dersey went back to new york i like dersey's game and so did cole boadine uh g let me look this kid up uh he's 24th overall pick 2024 so he played in the ohl last year 88 points 54 games world world junior world juniors two years in a row that's if you make canada world juniors two years in a row usually you're a complete stallion i feel like a lot of those guys only make i haven't even got a medal um true true true um and t jagen was coming so utah is looking good uh who else is coming we mentioned the demodob deal that demodob deal is going to look incredible year after year it's going to look better everybody's falling in line there it's because if you if you had to bet who the next owner would do a big offer sheet would ryan smith be on your top of your list oh a thousand percent dude that guy'd fucking throw a basket of money outside of an airplane man he didn't give a shit he's loaded he's loaded and he wants to win he's building a he's building a ridiculous uh practice facility there like oh that's done i think one of the kids at our camp this week is from utah he actually asked me to sign his hat because you signed his hat when you were out there biz at utah but um he's not going to sign his hat because he's not going to sign his hat he said the practice facility is amazing i mean this is coming from a 15 year old 14 year old kid he was like it is so insane how nice it is yeah no i think that i don't think they're going to be fucking around anymore where the money and how they're treated and the family life and the setup i think that's going to start luring guys into to utah yeah and the garments we mentioned um the jets they signed stewart scanner two-year deal for an average 3.75 um you know coming off kind of a tough year between edmonton and pittsburgh he goes to winnipeg the red wing signed arvidsson two-year deal average annual five million bucks why making moves i thought he'd go back to boston actually but uh he had 25 goals so he gets 10 million on a two-year deal the golden knights did sign the rasmus anderson rasmus anderson got 8.5 a year for seven years he's got to look better than he did in the playoffs has to and they went to the finals um but that was basically kind of like a handshake deal i think when he went over there we mentioned gudas a six year deal for 1.5 a year that is a hilarious contract at some point the league's coming after florida for these deals well you forgot one part of the contract what he's living in yanz's beach uh house there at the back a little no he's got too many he's got too many kids he wouldn't fit he actually kept his house in florida so that makes it a lot easier we talked about having to go somewhere buy a new house he kept his house in florida so he's gucci he can just walk right into it turn the key veteran move probably gain probably gain a bunch of equity in it too the way the market's humming down there yeah uh wild re-signed bobby brink one-year deal 2.75 he looked great he looked great yeah i played with him a little bit in philly he's a highly highly skilled guy with a with a big motor i thought he was awesome uh towards the end of the year last year when he got moved over how did you guys hear the zuccarello thing about like how like like he was bullshit what he was bullshit that minnesota kind of low-balled him well that and like i don't like i don't think billy g like ever reached out and like like try to like yeah like there was some rumblings i don't know if it's another i don't know if this is true then i hope i don't step on anyone's toes but but long story short is there was no real communication between both sides until it got too late and then zoop got a good offer and he and he was out of there which seems kind of crazy to me because when he wasn't in the lineup in minnesota they were a completely different team that is a wild fan a wild fan um put up their their four lines or their 13 fours as of now and said i'm kind of underwhelmed like looking at this forward group right now now they look pretty fucking good i mean colorado they got him right that last game was crazy but zuccarello was a big part of that team they almost got to replace that they got to figure that out um and then we got to bring on ra but before that jack drury five-year contract 4.5 a year with nashville showed up jack drury and a a move we saw coming from miles away was montreal eating a little bit of money on the last year for brendan gallagher uh and he goes over to vancouver where he's from and you know a veteran guy on what's going to be just a horrible hockey team they're going to be horrible and you know why montreal is able to do that because they sign these guys they sign hudson for cheap they sign demodov for cheap they're just making good moves and you know a guy that i mean he's only been there he's been a consummate pro there i mean that guy played his ass off for how long how long was he there 15 years 16 years he was he's gonna get a he's gonna get a hardcore yeah oh yeah i want to see how many games he played for them he played my guess i think nine i'm gonna say 9 11 20 and 11 9 11 and we played uh he played half half of the first year in the minors in hamilton so one two three four five six seven eight nine ten eleven twelve thirty fifteen years the league the league is rigged if he plays his thousandth game versus the montreal canadians those things always happen now i know it always bring in ra there's a couple things i want to ask sorry about hello everybody welcome to our race world here in the spitting chiclets podcast i want to send a happy fourth of july out to all our listeners here in the states a belated happy canada day to our great fans up in canada as well uh tough going tough going for the united states on the soccer side tonight i know you boys wanted to get to that i don't know if you're if you want to jump right into it or discuss fourth of july matters before then biz how was your fourth i know you did a little fishing you said it was great buddy yeah honestly like just like i mean obviously i celebrate canada day down here as well but we're very blessed to live in in two wonderful countries well at least i am right born in canada i've spent like basically all of my life in canada and i've spent all of my life in canada and i've spent all of my life in canada my adult life as a primary resident of the united states buddy could be more grateful for for living in two countries and wait i don't know if you caught this one and and um and obviously you're the one who brought it up ra was um port noise like i think it was a post he sent about how there's like a lot so much like negativity surrounding it and how like everybody complains about the united states all the time but like everybody wants to be there like it's such a an unbelievable country so i think the world cup's been cool like it's just yeah it's been pretty good for america canada mexico it's made the world smaller all these people are coming over and saying they're having the best vacation ever i mean buddy every country's got its issues no doubt united states does but i fucking love living here we're very proud to be american i love canada i think canadians are so proud to be from canada it's two amazing countries that we kind of get to represent here at least you can't get seasick when you go fly fishing like we did fishing a couple years ago i had a tough time during covid so all right i gotta ask you is that an england hat or is it just a oh fuck no no this is a bunker hill it's the bunker hill hat like basically the battle of bunker hill the big monument in boston right down the street from where we stayed it's it's actually a blue flag it's this this is just sort of the top corner of it that's a cedar tree so yeah it's it commemorates like the battle of bunker hill and okay it's basically sort of charlestown's unofficial hat we don't have like an official flag i'm sorry official unofficial flag we don't have like a flag per se but if you're from here you definitely have what you do on the fourth all right i just had a kind of chill weekend man i stayed in for like four days in a hundred degree days here in boston for the first time since like 1944 i can't deal with it i just stayed in but the fourth time my good pal maca he had a small crowd here he's at a nice i actually believe it an underground pool here in charlestown so went up there i had a couple cocktails went for a dip you know uh it was just a nice you know chill night with a lot of close friends so that's already they still have the pool up at the um the bunker yeah oh yeah yeah that was the best pool in the world back in the day the diving board oh my god yeah the 16 footer yeah they was actually sneak in there at night jump off it was the best yeah after hours yeah there was a little like bend in the fence so we'd go up you know after midnight whatever go for a little dip but yeah they did it over last year so it's uh looking pretty good yeah paul public you know like exactly wendy peppercorn that that same type of like public you know municipal yeah municipal pool we all go so i actually keep them what i know we're just talking about fourth of july you guys are down uh nantucket did you happen to bump into the sandman at all adam's no like so apparently he called the police office like the non-emergency line and said hey where is there a chance there's a pickup basketball game going and they sent him down to a court where there's always kids playing no he did it's the one next to the rink with yeah he loves pickup basketball he just showed up and he played for about an hour took pictures and i guess then gaz tweeted he was in the same exact outfit at crew eating lunch so he makes me look like mr tux the way he dresses oh yeah we were actually talking about this so i have all these my brothers are at my house and my my brother-in-law were just shooting the shit but when that news broke sandler's the man i don't know him but he has all those guys that he's put in every movie he's ever done like talk about taking care of your people i've never really heard a hollywood bad story about him oh wouldn't you wouldn't i don't think he's like the fucking best person going and i i've gone to his stand-up he has all those guys open up for him like that dante guy um what's the other rob snyder and then um what's the other guy who's uh joe dirt nick swatson no joe dirt david spade like he has all those guys open up for him too so he's like the ultimate friend yeah you don't hear a bad word actually i got to give him a little fist bump remember uncut gems come out a few years ago i would say no movie the pre the premiere of a movie is a straight up panic attack gives me anxiety i'm telling you i watched that movie the first time i was not comfortable leaving i'm like i've been on the edge of my seat but like in a bat like i like the movie but it's just like it's not exactly like you're a relaxing watch i'd rather have a million on the game myself than watch this freaking thing uh one last note on the 4th of july i don't know if you saw the video from the international space station where our pal colonel mike hopkins was a couple years back you could actually see the fireworks in la like from the video you could just see all the stuff kind of yeah yeah i retweeted it on my feed if you want to watch it i don't know if you've seen it i don't know if you want to check it out yeah it's pretty pretty cool stuff um going back to sandler he um he was the guy who like officiated the wedding for taylor swift and travis kelce that's probably why he was in the air yeah dude he officiated their wedding it's crazy that wedding went it was at msg i kind of love the move i think it's awesome crazy that she got married at msg i think it's weird and it wouldn't be what i would want it's like silly like but it seems like they did it silly like adam's apple i don't know if you've seen it but it's like it's like it's like it's like adam sandler was like the like the one officiating it all and they had every star celebrity athlete and a lot of people i'm assuming like go over to like whatever mon poc or or where you guys are at and in places around new york around july 4th so it's kind of an easy out boom you're there at msg everything was already locked down i think for the most part because of the world cup so bingo bango get them in there you could you could seat and fit them all in the stadium and then see you later everybody go enjoy the rest of your july 4th weekend so i thought it was actually smart they took so much criticism for it obviously because it's like anything she does that people want to shit on but i actually thought it was it was a it was a good move you only know once i think the idea of just like the msg's so gross looking i know i'm like that's why we got a front row seat but sam probably did it because he's like can i shoot hoops before like on the court yeah uh one quick gambling note i i've never seen um stanley cup odds this high in my gambling career uh broen's 100 to 1 on draft kings but right now the canucks and the flames are a thousand to one to win the stanley cup wait have you ever seen odds this high no but already like i know you want to bet it don't bet it don't bet that's what you're burning i'll give you a hundred he's bringing this up because he's like dude i gotta touch this like it's a thousand to one for a reason they're not winning i i got i got issues but they're not they're not thousand to one on calgary or vancouver how much is san jose right now uh san jose is now we're talking biz uh 35 to one uh along with ottawa and toronto all three of those are 35 i i would i would put my life savings on toronto getting farther than than san jose well i think we can arrange a little side side thing maybe not right now a little something you know what fuck me you don't want to bet you all right that's awesome new jersey let's do it that carlson ra um that carlson offer sheet fuck me on that five thousand dollar bet i had with pasha with the ducks winning before the devils because now the cap's completely mangled and that pissed me off i forgot about that yeah for a big under the gun he's definitely i mismanaged this i think you could say and that was stunning news i know we already went over it earlier but i mean i'm a huge carlson guy merle's got me on to him years ago but the idiots online like oh he only has x amount of points in x amount of games it's like bro if you watch this guy especially the last season he had you you know he's the next great like just watch what he did against edmonton right right right i mean he's like they say back off but maybe even would it touch more skill so right whoa whoa whoa sorry who can't talk about ky's boys more skilled than barkov i think barkov has top five skill ever suck on that all right okay all right you just got shoved in a locker put it back to him all right time will tell how you do it actually i thought you were gonna say if anything not as good defensively um well i think that's a skill of guys you know particularly forwards they get better as the years go by it's just i mean it's all just commitment to it's just sort of like or do they care about it exactly defense is more of a mental aspect uh i know we're gonna get to the soccer in a sec but i can't imagine like and i've you know i've wore a bag over my head to a bruins game once but i've never painted my face or like dressed up but there's got to be no worse feeling as a fan than leaving a game like your face like half red or half green like or dressed up as a character so like some dude in seattle's like walk at home like going to like toss a salmon in downtown seattle dressed like william howard's half like right now after the u.s disaster of a game what an ugly i would have never i mean i think that a guy on this podcast painted his face on the concourse at a nhl playoff game no it was i got a caricature those caricatures you know those things all right yeah like like a big head no i was in the cup finals and like all my buddies were there and then keith was were you in the nhl yeah yeah and like because apparently there was you know people walking around and they were like what the fuck is that keith yana and he's like posing like this is the caricature guys me you know on his face you mean like well keith when they draw like the costume with the guy has the big head yeah like small body do it all over daytona beach you wouldn't know it oh yeah oh yeah just just just grinding him down like like the character of me would be like the monster ears oh yeah yeah you know how they do those you know boys we should actually get them done next time we're somewhere we gotta get these done as a group would you be able to see uh much of the first half of the ugly soccer game uh keith and i watched the beginning they scored tied it up then it was 2-1 then we started this what was the final score 4-1 they gave up four goals oh i think you know what about you know well yeah so the story goes this guy gets the red card bullshit red card shouldn't have got the red card but he's out the the first fact is that portnoy tweets that it's getting reversed i'm like what the fuck sure as shit it gets reversed then the news breaks that trump talked to the head of fifa i'm like this is gonna become news and europeans and people around the world were so disgusted but i saw that that uh that uh what's his name the ronaldo awesome the swedish guy that's doing the fox broadcast he said i can't believe that it didn't get reversed sooner. So if you've got an all-time soccer legend saying it was a complete joke and it should have even been taken away earlier, then I'm kind of like, well, it was the wrong call. It was kind of like if a guy got kicked out of a game in the NHL, and then everyone's asking about the suspension, and then they're like, oh, there's no suspension. He shouldn't even have been kicked out of the game. I don't know. I heard it wasn't Trump, that it was Judd that called. No shit. No shit. Obviously, yeah, it was controversial. It did seem like I read up on Article 27 of FIFA's disciplinary code. The judicial body may decide to fully or partially suspend the implementation of a disciplinary measure. But then later in the bylaws, it's like suspensions can't be appealed in the World Cup. So there was sort of contradictory things there. And then until I know FIFA Peace Prize winner Donald Trump called up the FIFA president there. And obviously, they changed the ruling. And I think, yeah, penalties usually aren't rescinded. Like, unless it's in the game, like we just talked about, if a guy gets called for a high stick and they look at the replay, they fix it right then. But it just seemed like, I don't know if this fueled Belgium more. I think they're way more talented. They might have won the game anyways. But it definitely seemed, I don't know, it was like maybe they felt it was rigged against them or something. Because these things typically don't get lifted. I guess Ronaldo had a three-game suspension that they rescinded that somehow. But I think it was the fact that it was a phone call that was made and then it happened instead of just. And that guy from FIFA, they show him at every game. What's his name? The head of FIFA, Gianni something. He just looks like an incredible Bond villain. And he's like, yeah, Donald Trump and I talked. And I was like, oh, this thing's going to go nuclear. The story now isn't as good. What do you call those guys who live on yachts in the middle of the ocean? Oligarchs? Oligarchs. Billionaires? Yeah, he looks like an oligarch. Yeah. Well, that was the Chelsea owner. It was a legit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was a legit Russian oligarch and they were incredible. And then once the whole Russia attacking Ukraine war started, they forced him to get rid of the team. But they really haven't been very good since. So I think that. That's Man City? No, that's Chelsea. Oh, Chelsea. I think that this story would have been a lot bigger and better if they'd won and that guy scored. Oh, my God. The content that would have come out of that. Dave's content would have been off the chart. He would have done another book. Just from a sheer entertainment perspective, the fact that the biggest tournament in the world is going on and USA is still in it and their guy shouldn't be playing and then the fucking president calls. I know. I know. That's entertainment. That is entertainment. And if it happened to Canada, although Carney probably couldn't have got it reversed, I don't think he's got that much power. I would have loved to have seen him call and try. The FIFA guy is like, Hey, new phone, who this? He's like, ah, it's not happening. But as far as the entertainment factor, like I think, I mean, two of the greatest games, I think in any sport I've ever watched since the last time we got together, Argentina versus Cape Verde over the weekend. Just, just absolute phenomenal that, that, that, that tie and go with, you know, an extra time, the way that just like curved the net, bend it like Beckham and then England versus Mexico, which was last night, Sunday night, just an absolute battle, man. So I mean, yeah, the US is out, but I'm not going to stop watching it. We've gotten so much entertainment, like so many people. I know we say it every week on here, but it just, we're just emphasizing how much people have fallen in love with this tournament in this game. What's the name of that building they played in, in Mexico? Azteca, I think they've, I think they've only lost two games there when they're playing an international play. It's 4,500 feet above sea level, obviously hot as shit. That is an insane, tough environment to go into. I think there's 120,000, 20,000 people in the stadium. And I think tickets were going for 5,000 a pop. Our boy, Nikki smokes was down there with the one time done. I think they went to the game prior. How about the, he went to both games. I think he went to two games down there. How about this Holland Viking? Dude. Oh, he's the best. He's a specimen. He's funny as shit too. You ever see the video of him eating and then he looks at himself in the mirror and gets freaked out like a cat or dog. He's, he's the most visual. Like, visually like he's the biggest athlete in the world. I think right now. So he has, he has, uh, he, he has 112 goals in 132 games in the premier league in the German league. He had 62 goals in 67 games in champions league games. He has 57 goals in 58 games. And in the world cup, he has seven goals in four games and an international boys representing his country. He's got more goals than games played. You're going to shit. You know, who, honestly, I can't even say this without laughing. Do you know who fucking told me about this guy? First, like seven years old, because Merle's was watching a world, a U 20 world cup game and he scored goals. Yeah. Six goals, eight goals. He had in an under him. If I was talking about it on air, Merle's invented Vikings and Merle's legit was like talking about him on a text with me and makes, he's like, you gotta see this fucking Norwegian guy. And I was like, huh? And then like, eight years later, he's just dominating the entire world. All he does is score. He just scores. And then the clip came out of them of his first goal the other day against who did they beat? Who did they beat yesterday? Oh, they, he had two goals. They beat Brazil. And he had the first one. He's just walking around like totally. And then just like a couple of quick bursts and just like dummies, a defender heads it in. And then the other one he got, he like kicks it to himself, rocket left foot. But he, he looked, he's a legitimate, it's like what came was like, it was like the guys that were just pillaging entire like colonies. He was a Viking. He's a Norwegian Viking. So he's amazing. If he, if he wins the, if they win the world cup, I bet you he'll be the most marketable athlete in the world easily. And yeah, he's got that look that he looks like no one else in the world. He's so lovable. Every guy out there is like, ah, he's going to knock on my old lady. I think he's with a girl from like his hometown too. And she's beautiful. Beautiful too. Yeah. Um, no, it's, it kind of reminds me a little bit like of the NHL playoffs. Now, now we're getting to the nitty gritty. We'll get to the final eight. And it's, it seems like a lot of the chalk is here now, like the next upcoming games, France versus Morocco, Spain versus Belgium, Norway versus England. And then the last one, uh, will be the winner of Argentina versus Egypt, uh, and Switzerland versus Columbia. So after all said and done, it seems like a lot of these teams that were already going to be in the mix are going to be the final. So Keith and I, on Monday, we fly to, uh, England for a golf trip. If, if England beats Norway, we will be in London for the semifinals. What? England's in. Oh, dude. So, you know, they're going to lose because we would get to be in London. I've never been to London for an English fucking world cup semifinal. Oh my God. That is, I might fly over there. I would love it. You should just show up. You'll buy a place there knowing you. Yeah. I'll buy a flat. I'm going to buy a flat guys. Um, seven more of them guys. Breaking news here. Breaking news. Claude Giroux's headed back to Ottawa. Hmm. Thought that, uh, yeah. Well, the ripple effect from the office sheet, I would imagine. Yeah. So apparently he was, uh, pretty close to returning to Philadelphia. Philadelphia told him to wait, uh, wait it out till they figure out this Carlson thing. And then he, uh, ended back in, in Ottawa. What's the deal? Uh, it's not reported yet. But Elliot just reported that he's going back to Ottawa. Uh, boys, I know a couple of weeks back, we mentioned that Ryan Craig was, uh, taken over behind the, mentioned Vegas, but I don't think we mentioned, uh, Joe Ward is going to be taken over for him, for him and now Henderson, uh, which is Vegas's AHL team. And he's just the second person of black ancestry to become a head coach in the league's 90 year history. Uh, former Chicago Blackhawk, Dirk Graham was the first when he coached Springfield back in oh four through oh six. Dirk Graham was also the first, uh, person of black descent to be a captain and a coach in the NHL. Uh, he's the, he is a white parent, a mixed race parent, actually busy because a very similar, you know, racial background to you. But I just want to give a shout out to Joe, Joe Ward, the working up, you know, he's been, uh, was an assistant for a long time. I just want to give him, uh, acknowledge that, you know, he's, he's definitely going down there to learn to be a head coach and he'll be a head coach in the NHL in the next three, four years, I would imagine. Yeah. So, I mean, I, we could say he's number two, whatever, but I just, you know, it's a historic thing. I want to give him a shout out there. I know we didn't get to prior, uh, on Netflix. I don't know if you guys seen this new Louis K, uh, ridiculous, his new standup set. I know whatever Louis K people have their issues. What am I? Get it. I understand, but he's hilarious. Hilarious. It was like his funniest set that I've seen in years. I know, you know, he was good for a while. He kind of had a little dipsy. Obviously he had his, his issues there, but Brian, I was crying, falling off the bed, laughing the other night. It's called ridiculous. Give that a look. See on Netflix, a couple other recommendations. If you're on there, if you ever seen born on the 4th of July, he ever say this one, Keith, old school. Yeah. It's a business about a guy who goes to Vietnam and he comes back, uh, in a, in a wheelchair and he's, you know, he's sort of views of, you know, his country and what he served sort of take a big turn, but it was the first acting nomination for Tom Cruise. Yeah. He didn't win nominated for best picture cinematography, adapted screenplay, and all of us don't did when, uh, best director for, uh, yeah, best director for the movie. So give it a look. See, it's a real good movie. You could see Tom Cruise. I know he's the action star, but you could, you really see his acting talent on display here. Uh, and my classic recommendation also on Netflix. I can't believe I actually haven't recommended this one. Fargo, 1996. I know we've talked about it on the show, but I never made an official recommendation. Uh, one of the best, like, yeah, well, whatever. It's a black comedy. It's a murder mystery, but there's a lot of, laughs in it can't say enough about the coen brothers awesome stuff if you haven't seen it get on i like that movie a lot it's fucked up but i like it yeah you know what i watched the other day is uh gone girl with uh ben affleck oh yeah dude what a fuck how insane is the girl in that thing oh it gets me when she's going through what when she could take three of my dogs when she pulled a knife out business like oh yeah when she's describing how she was gonna do the entire thing and she's like then you dye your hair i was like oh jesus yeah that's what that that's that's a deranged movie she'd be leaving my house like she was running like what are they all the huskies are going yeah the uh yeah i did a rod leave in my place oh my god in arizona suck a golf ball through a garden hose who's the actress who's the actress who was who ben if ben affleck was having the affair with in that movie oh that's uh she's a smoke she's she's ended up starts with an s right no she's more like a hangout i hang out with the kardashians isn't she oh no she has cannons that's all i remember absolute handball girl no you know who she is bitch she's like a instagram oh emily yeah yes yes yes yeah she was yeah obviously the best athletes in the united states don't play soccer but we still must have i mean our soccer numbers in youth soccer i'm guessing are just as big as you know some of these countries why do we stink at soccer well you don't stink i mean we don't stink we made it to the no no no we no we stink we stink no you went to the round of 16 no you you we stink for the world because i think that i also think that you're you're you're some of these countries like it's all they have like it's their main thing and it's also their only way to like make money and be successful in some in some cases so i tend to believe that the draw the drive is way higher i tend to believe it's like the skill though and like for sure you're you're based on you're based on like so many kids are like this is my way out whereas maybe you could say that like in sports here in the united states that isn't that aren't soccer but there there's so much better than us like they're so and it's it's just kind of bizarre to me i i think what i think the the u.s priority without athletics is so so much more focused on football basketball baseball hopefully more hockey but those those types of sports you know i mean it's not a fringe sport soccer's made huge strides i mean it was nothing when i was growing up but i think that's a huge factor just you know culture i know but it is one sport where like i don't i don't even know what it's like to be a soccer player i don't even know 50 years from now like we're in the mix of like a top five top eight countries probably because the professional leagues over here aren't like as desirable as to go play over in europe and then like what are the chances you can go and do that so i don't know yeah it's a great question but yeah it's just kind of it's because how many guys i did see landon donovan talking about and you know you could say this with hockey in a sense but not even close like he was on bald stool the youth system is completely broken where the youth system here is like it's just there's so much money in the coaches i think the coaching i'm guessing for 10 12 14 year olds in europe is so much better right and i think they go to academies when they're like 11 years old over there i think yeah yeah but they even have like sister academies in the u.s for those teams over there really yeah well think about think about think about the sport the four major sports like soccer reigns over all those in those country so you group all those kids that would have went and played and been distracted by those other four now they're going to this one but i still think our numbers of kids is is it's gonna be way more yeah oh so it's like it doesn't matter right if you look at the numbers they don't want it bad enough i don't think they want it bad enough that is i'll tell you i'll tell you i've i've you you want to make it in a sport so the kids who make it in the sports they just fucking want yes they have genes they have great coaching but in the end it is who wants it the most like think of every single sport dude you get kids and at 14 15 if you want it you're gonna go out there and do it yourself with all the time at home you have and then the kids who don't they usually don't make it i think i think you just mentioned the biggest fact genetics i think that's the biggest factor in somebody making it athletically i so uh we were i was talking to uh a buddy about this recently he was saying he was i honestly think it's genetics and how bad you want it like it yeah it's kind of like when it's all said and done it's like genetics and how bad does he want it right you have one or the other it's probably not enough i get them both yeah every day down the rink down the street for 10 hours a day for you know until i was two to 22. i'd still never play for the boston berlins you know what i mean like yeah it's you know you need that genetic uh luck as it were so so fish is saying it's a pay-to-play system in the u.s europe has professional clubs scout and fund youth development entirely okay that would make sense where yeah so so the kids don't even pay so any kid poor rich is getting the chance in europe i mean it's not an expensive sport you get cleats and you and you and your own knee pads or shouldn't pads excuse me and i mean there's got to be thousands of soccer players who probably grew up not even with a soccer ball or shoes that are kicking around a fucking little tennis ball like but yeah u.s they'll just never i mean how long did you hear that the 2026 world cup when the u.s host that's that's our team it's like no it's hockey that was hockey you got drummed in the round of 16 can't have it all wit all right i don't know seriously buddy what are you doing what else you want well no i don't know there was a time when u.s hockey was there was a time when u.s hockey was the joke trump took all candlest fresh water so we could have a good time on nantucket what what's got his server he needs a lot that's why he he engineered that flood bit so he can get all that water in his basement i was the guy who donated boys keith tell him about your pool holy shit didn't wear his ass if anything funny happened i didn't even think of this either i didn't even think that's it so whatever we're getting ready we got 50 people coming over to visit this weekend i'm running out i run to the the packy then i run to bartlett farm to go grab some food kristin calls me she's like she's like the pool is empty the pool is empty my pool just completely empty i was gone for 45 minutes biz and my pool was completely empty what happened like one of like the i don't know the guy was trying to explain where's the water he said i don't know i ran down the basement thinking i had a wit situation but luckily it wasn't in there no it was like filtering throughout this i i have no idea they they took care of it and then i donated it to the downtown yeah i was gonna say yeah whip took it all right um great show uh free agency uh you don't you don't you don't win the stanley cup in the summer though boys so the you know you remember nashville they won that couple years ago everyone was saying holy shit and they were horrible so but it was entertaining and now we get to see if if philly philly uh ends up with leo carlson what a great show um we will be back to you next week we love you all and uh g says stanley cup is awarded in june you definitely win it in the summer so that's fair i guess that well he just got me there he got me there you don't win it in july you don't win it in july i'll rephrase g are you are you saying that based on the moves these gms are making yeah i'm saying that now A couple of years ago, fucking Nashville got Stamko's Marshall. So it was like, here come the Preds and they didn't make the playoff. So it's all I'm saying, this. It's all I'm saying. Love you all. Yeah. Good snapping it. Eleven twenty five right now. U.S. lost. R.A. was world. We love you, buddy. We'll talk to everyone next week. Peace. Peace.