Spittin' Chiclets Episode 654: Cup Final Update + Babs is Back?

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All right now back to the show and show it on everyone listening right now we're tuning in and watching on Netflix. I know we aren't live so I don't even know why I'm mentioning that but we had to go after game five right we got to do the stream on Tuesday night, which was a plaster. We got another great game. We'll get into that one. I don't really know I'm going to throw it over to you based first to see what you want to say and where you want to start this all off right now. God I think before we get to bussy I think we have to mention what Jordan Stahl is doing right now. I think that right now he has to be one of the main story lines. I mean for years now he's never scored at this type of rate but you know as his career he's on the back nine and it's coming to an end. Maybe he plays another two three more years. I don't know how much gas he has left in the tank but it feels like he knows that this might be his last opportunity to ever win a Stanley Cup and he is leaving it all on the ice boys and it's been it's been unbelievable to watch such a ferocious leader and doing it everywhere boys like in the face off dot. Yeah as you talk about how they'll have power plays they'll throw them out there. Let's go win possession then he gets off and I've noticed that they've also done an unbelievable job with monitoring his ice time and not overplaying him to let him concentrate concentrate on that penalty kill bringing what they bring obviously the pp which I seem to have brought to life obviously the mishman himself. It's incredible actually buddy they just tied the highest amount of goals they've ever scored in a playoff series and their organization's history going against I think coming it was the best pk in playoffs in Vegas it was clippet at about 85 90 percent four or five short handed goals you name it and all of a sudden they the canes power play has come to life for six goals in five games so far the series and a couple clutch ones in in game five that I mean let's say let's let's call spade a spade I think that they got the the benefit of the doubt when it came to the amount of power play opportunities the stone high stick double minor yeah that one that power play goal sealed the deal but even before that they had the back-to-back ones where they were well I mean McNabb's that was such a big panel that was a dumb one I was a dumb one man and I saw Bootsie our guy Bootsie's tweet no dive it's like I don't know Blake's like five six he moves the pockets plays dead just I get you know he's a machine of a defense McNabb he's he'd already gotten away with the hall cross check and then he gets that one I thought Blake was dead for a second at least because it was on though you couldn't see the boards with that camera view and you know he gets up thank God but stupid penalties and I'm gonna say this right now Sunday night I'm not starting Carter Hart and I actually I'm starting them because I'm a Carolina hurricane oh yeah I can't see puck right now he's giving up four goals in every game so wait so so so who's gonna start for them we're guys miss your guide I don't know if you two remember our walk home from the stream the other night though I said it I said leave Carter Hart in Vegas don't even bring him on the flight cross country eight and hill has to start that game because it's the away game I was in my ass hole ripped upside down over here for mentioning his name for mentioning his name yeah and then he let him fly goals or whatever it was that are four in an empty net after you said I can't stop the puck right now I see how many what can we get a look up on from G or fish him when was the last time in a cup final goal he gave up four goals never it never it's the first time a goal he's ever given up four plus goals in a all five games of Stanley Cup Final I mean my how the turn turn tables what I said my how the turn tables I don't even think you can finish it I think the turn tables is kind of your line and yeah you were saying it earlier and people kind of laughed and you ain't for what do you mean people would you take some goddamn accountability yeah but buddy I don't consider this like at at the same uh the same scenarios when you originally bringing it up when yeah he did look question but they were winning they were winning and winning and winning and now I mean that's two in a row where all of them they're not on heart but it's like he's not making the big save that's special called goal can't go in it's on the ice five yeah so the crazy part of this series but one of the 15 crazy things that we're witnessing and anyone who's listening right now everyone thought once they made it four two I guess a couple of minutes ago I was like they're gonna fuck a tie this one up this is just gonna be a of no flop the whackiness the crack hockey nope not on bussey this goalie situation and Brandon bussey and getting the chance to talk who called that one um I don't know but was it you is this like the big show yeah I call it from we've been on for seven minutes he's already taking credit for their power play he's taking credit for bussey and he's now gonna be taking credit if hill goes in which I don't think they'll go to hillbiz I think you got a ride with heart see it's game six he's got here you have to ride with him and hope your team scores five goals hey but that's why I wasn't I wasn't taking credit for bussey I was in a point to the quarter that we flipped well then I flipped well I was going to flip that yarns flipped and flipped very well so credit yarns for starting bussey in game four and now game five he looks confident guys he's making those big stop people were shitting on him for last games performance but he he start he stopped the the stone breakaway off the hop like that first right out of the gate he stopped that breakaway and that settled them down gave them the confidence so they were able to go out there and do their thing so I think it's a completely different series with him and that and oh my god do we have a great one it's unreal just going back to the Jordan stall and I just think it's so cool but it's it's he's the first player to score in five straight games in the Stanley Cup final since 1956 like think of how many good players the Gretzky's the Lemus the amp everyone and since 1956 that hasn't happened for a guy like him to do it is affordable yeah he has six goals so I tweeted out what's the record somebody came back with 14 but I think that was like before the original six I and I saw nine since the original six like so I still don't have the answer but I'm gonna go with nine I'm gonna go with nine I mean buddy this guy he is so strong in front oh yeah so good at tipping puck some of the passes he's getting these shot passes they're phenomenal He almost had another one in the third period. That was actually a pretty good save by heart. But the busty story to me is just incredible. And to get picked up on waivers, to sign with the Stanley Cup champs, drive to the AHL, get grabbed on waivers while you're in Carolina going to a friggin' Charlotte, take the left or the right or the whatever the direction is to Raleigh, start your career the way he did, then whatever. I think he probably understood they're going with the veteran and Anderson's playing great. But here's my question to you guys. Like, Anderson's concussed, right? Like, this is kind of a two-part question. But it almost made the decision easier. It's all the stars are aligning. And is there a chance, like, so he's concussed, because obviously he'd be the backup, right? Yeah, Barba Shevgotten. It's pretty decent. But Barba Shev buckled him, finishes that game, couldn't believe he didn't get taken out by a spotter. Finishes that game. So then it's all right, no questions. He's injured. We go with Busy. And I would say there was a little worry for me game four, because he gives up those goals. Like, it's three or up three, one. All of a sudden, it's three, three. But then he slammed the door, shot. Jammed the door. And tonight, he was great again. So I don't know if he's obviously he's fresh. I know that. Is it that much of a difference for Vegas shooting on a lefty? I just think he's so fresh. You could tell that he's been staying in shape. You could tell he's been putting the work in, and then he wants to seize the moment. You could tell by the way a guy carries himself, the way he stands in the net, the way that his eyes are bugged out as he's looking through his cat eyes. And right now, he's kind of got that pop at his step. And he waited his turn. I think it's one of those situations where he's probably just grateful to be in the NHL, regardless of the fact that he had the start that he had. Well, Anderson was, I think, a little banged up and not playing great. So he got to ride his wave and, you know, through his experience and whatever decisions they decided to start, Anderson and playoffs, he's deserved the net up until now. If even if he, if Anderson after game three was still saying, I'm OK, I can go. The hardest decision in Rod the Baud's career would have been like, I'm still going with Busty. I don't know if he would have done it. That would have taken some balls. But it was the, it was what needed to be done. It had to be done. I didn't feel the confidence from Anderson anymore just from a viewing perspective, especially with the amount of breakdowns and grade A is you're going to see from the Vegas Golden Knights. Grade A scoring chances or at least scoring chances to begin game five, like the tarot card lady said when she do a Vegas, we're going to come out swinging. 11 to 1 scoring chances in that first period. 11 to 1 for Vegas. And who was there to stop all of them? Bust, the bus man. I want to tell you who was there. And when I saw this, I said, oh, well, Caroline's got the chance tonight to win the Cup because this game fives over. And Mike Commodore. Oh, yeah. In full. In amazing fashion, obviously a big time player for that 2006 Stanley Cup team in Carolina. They had the robes. That was part of their storyline. He got the robe on. He looked at Carrot top up there. And it's also on the heels of Babcock, which we'll get to possibly being back in the NHL. Holy shit. Do we have to talk about that? And Commodore cranked out. He cranked out horn harder than any of us. Remember cranked our own horn or any other horn. Remember cranked out the sirens, not like of humans. I want to make it correct. Not this is anything wrong with that. But Call me and now here's a thing. Here's a thing on this series. OK. I want to ask Murr, you're the Vegas guy. We got mix. We got the Vegas insider. What has happened the last two games? Like what are you not seeing or seeing that maybe doesn't work for a team who just looked dominant up until game four, basically? I don't know if I've been speaking Swedish or not, but I've been screaming at the top of my lungs to anyone that will listen. Torch changed the lines. You should have left Eichel with Dorothy of in Barberschev. That line was super. You had Mariner, Carlson, howden, super line, and then Stone with hurdle made that a formidable third line. When he switched that lines, they haven't been good sense. The whole team fell apart. It's a disaster. Now we have William Carlson with a broken wrist. He's done for the series and he threw the lines in a blender again panicking. He threw Mariner up there with Stone and Eichel. Who scored the goals today? Doraphia of both goals. Who were they assisted by both goals? Jack Eichel. It's not fucking rocket science. Wow. Moral's what I told you so. Yeah, that coach is just I told you so. It's just, yeah, if Moral says it, it's going to lead to an I told you so because the man knows puck buried the lead a little bit. You just mentioned that Carlson gets driven into the wall by Walker. Now I don't remember game four, but Blutman and Blutman, Blutman is down bad right now. Walker was playing like a saffron. He played unbelievable tonight. That pass on real. But Walker rides Carlson and Blutman and mentioned in game four. He messed up his arm or wrist or whatever. But immediately you could tell he basically is like, Oh no, goes to the bench. Trainer looks at him, skates off the ice and torts then goes to the trainer and ESP or ABC did a great job and the trainer whispered something to him and you just see him. That was that was the same guy who told me my ACL was torn. Really? Yeah, yeah. I had him in Ontario. Same guy. Both of them. Okay. And then he, yeah, he, he knows that over. And then the coach did the palm of what he told you. Yeah. Yeah. Got him. Get back. I finally get him back on Twitter and all the guys are like, coach, did he tell you business healthy? Nothing's bad. He's like, no, he told me. He's fucking done. I've never had to play with him again. He's like, you promise. It was both. You promise? Yeah. Oh, that changed him up. We all remember listeners and us remember Gary Lawless coming on saying, I don't know if he's going to play this series and him playing that night against Anaheim. And since he came in, they had, they had, they had Mariner back at the wing. They had their second line. They were dominant, how'd and score and all these goals. And now it's like, fuck man, Blutman called them the heart and soul of the franchise. I said the franchise doesn't have a heart, but if Vegas fans want to say that he's the heart, so I would agree with that. And it looks to be that he's done, right? You can't do anything if your fucking arms broken. No, but how much like, how much are we putting on Gary Lawless for not coming on the show before the, oh, but maybe there's going to be a point like he should be begging to call in right now with them being down. Like he should be begging to call in and as much as I want Vegas to win, I don't think we take that phone call. He tried to big time. Yeah. I agree. Also Vegas, they should be calling me. I'm three and oh in the building in Vegas in the shadows of finals. My phone, I'm looking for a free flight, free hotel, you know, Vegas, sweet couple buffing. Oh, we should send you the jet. He should send a jet over. I'm leaving for Sweden tomorrow, 135 from Boston. You got a little bit of time. Vegas golden nights. You breaking news. This is John Torrella just now. We'll be back here. We're just going to do it in a different order. I'm leaving my clothes here. I'm leaving them in the hotel. So I mean, bulletin board material, torts and messier. I could see it. We will win. We will win game six. That's basically what Torrella just said. If he's leaving us, unless he's Alan Iberstage is leaving, close it every, every hotel. Torrella is guaranteed. He's like, my wife got me this suit. I hate it. I know murals just said it, but torts also said William Carlson will likely not return to the series. I think you got to get willy crank and the horn with the good arm. Yeah. That's what I think if you want to get the boys going, murals, if you really want to win. Wow. Four and oh, you want to be four and oh. Call me up. Murals, how are you not going out there? He wants to keep his marriage alive. Vegas is a young man's game now. We have another unbelievable quote from torts here. Oh, we got more torts here. Torrella, this is from Greg Wissinski. Torrella responds to a question about swapping Aiden Hill for Carter. He heard you. He heard you. He heard you. Anyone who says it is an asshole. Exactly. He goes Christ. That could be the stupidest question I've ever heard. But it's not the stupidest question that he's deflecting. He says that. He's deflecting. Boys. Boys. Once again, it is. This is you. This is. I'm going back to you. He comes in incredible regular season where Hill didn't. But Bussie comes in. He's never played a playoff game. He's like, Cup finals. Hill won the Stanley Cup. Why is that a crazy question? Why? It's all. You just stepped in halfway through that final series either. Like, Hill played in the Stanley Cup final. And he was unbelievable. I remember watching a series. Yes, was Florida banged up? Were they getting opportunities? Fuck, he stood on his head. I don't know. I got so much hate. I even had old teammates in my tummy. How big of an idiot via text. I had to hop on the phone and defend my take about saying, what is so crazy about saying a Stanley Cup winning gold tender, potentially coming in who's been farther and a cop is more in the NHL than Kat. The difference is they put Bussie in on the road in a non elimination game. It was the perfect chance to throw him in. And then you go at home. It's exactly why Vegas should have put Hill in on Carolina. It's not an elimination game. It's on the road. You maybe you steal it if not Carter Hearts rested at home. - So you can't do it at home now? - No, because it's an elimination game now. Eden Hills first game in three months is gonna be an elimination game. Can't do that to the guy. - The argument would be that he was just so upset this year. I mean, that's probably like quartz. Like, "Ah, did you watch this guy this year?" - It was just brutal, but back to Carolina, obviously stalls the storyline. He is now the chalk minus one 10 to win the cons might this year, which makes total sense based on this series and just being the captain and the leader he is. - I can't get over it. - He was plus 5.50 yesterday with Memesy. We're having a couple of dope beverages. It said, "What's the odds on stall to win the cons might "and I said, "Memesy, I'd like that idea. "Let me look it up plus 5.50." And now it's down to minus one. - I believe he was, well, is he not 80 to one like after game two? - Probably. - It's just been, it's been domination by him, but I was kind of talking about him, but Stankhulvin is unbelievable. - He's been awesome. - He is, he gets in on the four check. He gets underneath guys. I saw a clip on social of his dad being interviewed. His dad's tiny too. He's just talking about basically the heart he has. He's like, "It doesn't matter if you're small, "you compete like him." And he wasn't being cocky or anything. He was just like, "Yeah, the kid's just kind of a dog." And I watch him out there and he gets underneath McNabb a couple times tonight. I didn't love and I love his game, "Shate Theodore's Game Tonight." I don't know, just, I mean, he got the assist on the door fee of second one, but overall, I lost a couple battles. And Stankhulvin just continues to just kind of shock me, I guess, because he's so small. And we all were like, "This is your second line center." And he's making us look like an idiot. - Well, you mentioned his father, right? Wasn't it his father? He talked to during Olympic break and he had a little heart to heart with him. And I think he was more of a little bit of frustration. The points weren't coming. And maybe some struggles at moving to a new position at the NHL level, but my God, he has been just an absolute bulldog. That whole line, I love Watts and Jackson Blake play. And then Halsey, when Tripp Tracy first used the Bennett comparison, I was like, I thought that that was a bit of a reach. But as the finals, as those series progress, I think he said it in the conference finals, or right before it, I mean, fuck man, he's making some big plays. He's always making the hard play too. He's taking it to the inside himself. He's completely changed his game from maybe what it was like five, 10 years ago. So just a credit to that whole second line. And throughout a lot of these playoffs, there's almost a bot time for that first line to show up. And then tonight, I was such a fucking big game for Svesh. Like he needed one of those big times. I think he only had a goal in the system. Aho was marvelous. So really both of them and what they've been able to do last couple. - Yeah, to stay on Carolina. And Theodore is not a great game. He was a Martinuck when he got in on that four check. - Oh, yeah. - That was a manhole. - Was that Theodore who was back there? Yeah, I think it was right away. - Yeah, that's what I thought it was him. That's kind of what I was thinking of is, I mean, give Martin a credit, but. - That was when he tried to go to healers, I believe, and missed him and it went to Walker at the point. And he's the one who sent it over to Aho. And talk about us, talk about the skate to stick play in flick of the wrist, top G's, man. Like that's hard, man. Carter Hart can get over quick, right? But he didn't give him much time with that skillful play. So just remarkable stuff. And it all starts with Martinuck. That's a heart and soul guy right there for the Carolina Hurricanes. - Carolina Hurricanes, most multi-point games in Stanley Cup final history. 2026, Ebers has three stall as two, Gloss despair has two. So you're just seeing so many different guys from this lineup make an impact. Gloss despair look awesome. He is like, I know we've kind of set it over and over, but underrated him a lot. And then he's just been dominant. And I'm just. - Do you see that stick play he made defensively in the first? I think it might have been on the corner. Oh my god. - Yeah. - He's gonna done both ends as well. - Yeah. - Didn't notice Martin much tonight, but you know what the way he's been playing this playoffs, like they're gonna be ready to go for game six. They're gonna have a leadership meeting on the playing back tomorrow, whatever it is, this team's gonna be ready to go on one of this. - So what happens? You've had Mariner who stepped in as second-line center when Carlson was out the whole year. Are you putting them back right there, Mar? - As long as you keep I go with Dorothy of. - In Barbershed, then I don't care. Do whatever you want with the rest of them. Stone would hurtle. I need stone would hurtle too. I need those two big, slow, smart players. Just, just forces. So who do I got left? Which scissors in the middle of those guys? - Everybody's gonna have to step up. Who we got in the minors? 'Cause I don't want to break up the other lines. I like that fourth line. They play good together. - I like the fourth one. - And I want that third line to cheer her out. And I got to find a guy from the minors. Maybe I can play in a game too. - I'll tell you. - I'll tell you. - Hey, Chico's fans, we're gonna take a quick break for a message from one of our partners. - It's Fran from Chico's in the office. The weather is getting cooler and Abercrombie's fall drop has everything I need for the season. The best selling A&F Sloan Taylor pant is a closet staple for me. I'm always wearing it to work events. Happy hour. Anytime I want to be a bit more dressed up. And the viral Dylan dress is easy. One and done perfection. But my fall uniform will always be denim pair with a Henley sweater, a bra free top. It's comfortable, effortless. It just never fails. Find your fall capsule at Abercrombie, shop in the app online and in stores. All right, now back to the show. - This is what I want to talk about. And we've mentioned Stalvo, we didn't mention what could have been an all time blooper in game four with a wide open net to take the lead for three. He completely bites it, Ryan Whitney's style on a pivot. And this guy just no quit falling down, gets a backhand or off heart swimming around again. Like he has been all series and the thing goes in. And the celebration is what made it. He's on the ground, face into the ice, just this shaking, going crazy, like a Viking that he is. So that goal, what a, I mean, Keith, I think you said it during the last two. Like that had the chance to be a straight up blooper. One you never, ever, ever want to remember or be a part of if it's you. And he bangs it in and just makes a beautiful goal happen instead. - Yeah, it's just like, I felt like while he was falling, he could just picture 'cause I played with Mark and Eric Stahl, both hilarious guys and relentless churpers. I feel like Jordan could foresee the text messages. He was gonna be getting after the game if he missed that. And he was like, finalists are giving it to him, you think? - Oh, I'm one million percent. And then he's just, I gotta get some wood on this and finds a way to score. And Hart got over, almost made the save, just the off. - Just took over his glove. - Yeah, so yeah, I mean, just shows what a fucking horse that guy is. Anyone else is on the ground, not getting any wood on it. - Another big time move. We're flip-flopping between games. Obviously, right after this one, you're thinking more of this one, but. - Rod the bod, man. This guy makes a hell of a movie, puts Martin Hook up with Aho and Svetchenikov, then Jarvis down with Stahl and Eelers. Probably makes those two lines a little bit more even, right? You get a little bit more offense from Jarvis, who's now with Stahl and Eelers. And Eelers has been so good offensively. And then you get Martin Hook, maybe grinds it out a little bit more for Aho and Svetchen, Aho, both score. No granted Svetches are on the power play, but I like that. That's a ballsy move and a murder. That's kind of similar to the way you liked Vegas's lines with Stone on the third line. - You gotta spread it out a little bit. But another thing I noticed in this game was the crowd down in Carolina. They were going nuts and I loved how half of them were standing the entire game it seemed. - Tarps off, still. They just gave that team the extra energy and that's what home crowds are supposed to do. So gotta shout out those bligerant Carolina fans. - Ray Ferrero said that it's way louder in Carolina. - And they don't pump fake noise in, which is kind of BS. If you're pumping fake crowd noise in the building. - Is that like happening in Vegas? - Oh yeah. - Yeah, yeah, that's a thing. - They're pumping like tunes or fake crowd noise. - I think it's to elevate the crowd noise to help with it. I mean, we were there at the start of the year against the Kings and I'm pretty sure that's what goes on. It's loud in there, like don't get me wrong. But I think you can tell when it's coming from people rather than just the sound system. And when we were in like the, I've never been there but I would imagine like is Bristol the NASCAR the race? It just feels like, they say 'cause the buildings like all cement that it just vibrates and the noise kind of radiates off the walls. And it was louder than munch at all. - They're like an SEC football crowd. - Yeah, they're like a NASCAR crowd. They just get rowdy, they're drinking, they're having fun. You get that guy in that silly classroom. You say that guy in a blow up outfit? That's always there they always show with the big bus sign on it today. - Hey, where's yellow now is this bus? - Yeah. - Yeah, they're not drinking athletic brews too many athletic brews out in the tailgate the way they looked, some of those fans walking in today. Did you guys. read this one. Jordan Stahl would overtake Tim Thomas as the oldest person to win the cons might by 150 days if he were to win it. Did you or did you read that yet? No, I didn't know that. Did he read it? He didn't. So we did not. We talked about it like so it's not all you do in the finals to win cons might. It's kind of everything throughout the playoffs, right? But him putting this performance in. Oh, when it was so even like there was no no one on the markers like above everyone else and then the finals obviously he did even more, but Carolina was kind of like Anderson, I think, was the guy. Yeah, he wasn't even the goalie anymore. And Biz had to remind me because it feels like it was two seasons ago. It was an 11 seconds in or three seconds into the first game. He fought Brady Kachuk. Yeah, everything off. So he does have the full body of work for the whole playoffs. And he's one eight million face offs. No, yeah, the face off things getting out of control. Murned and Biz, I know you guys are together with the guys during this one, with all the comebacks we've seen, including Game 4, it's 3-1, Carolina, all of a sudden it's 3-3. Were you waiting for Vegas to get one or didn't it? Did I feel a little different to you? So if we're going back to Game 4, I was confident that Busy was going to close the door because of the tarot card lady reading and she has been right about every game and they said it was going to be a barn burner, but then yet they were going to prevail. And I just favor tonight. She said tonight that day that that it was going to be a storm early from the Vegas Golden Knights in which it was 11 to 1 in scoring chances. And that ultimately that Carolina would prevail. Yeah, I know that she's five for five. Simulation. And she given out her Game 6 pick yet? No, I think she does it like a day or two in advance. In this case, it might come out tomorrow, but I would imagine it's two days. And memes found Game 5. I actually didn't watch Game 5s until Game 5s was over. Yeah, memes gives them gives out the picks after the games, but no, but time out. But I saw it on my own timeline before Game 4. That's why I kind of knew that what was going to come because she'd been bang on the three prior games. But tonight, though, felt a little different when they when they were up for two and they took that puck over the glass from Elers, I thought that they it's something squarely was going to happen. And off of the night, like going back to last night, the Knicks had a 29 point come back. So I'm just like, oh, we're going to be getting some crazy playoff finals action going here. So I just had this weird feeling that Vegas was going to come back. But ultimately, Bussi, three, was it three puck over the glass battle? Three tonight, Kyonja Miller had one and then Elers had two. That was their only penalties they took. I mean, discipline teams, just if they're they're very disciplined. I noticed that when they're on, like a couple times, like defensemen snapping up nice passes in the neutral zone and like, you can't you, it's hard to even tip it in for Vegas. Like they're just in your face. In your face. And when they're going like that, that's like the, I mean, obviously, Montreal was not not a team like Vegas. They're not that good. But it's it's like the same feeling at certain moments in tonight's game of like, you can't get anything. I mean, what was it? They had 13, 14 shots with like 10 minutes to go in the game. Yeah. Another thing too. I mean, we mentioned McNabb getting injured and then Carlson now luck as far as guys staying healthy and the injury bug is a major, major factor here. I mean, all of a sudden the PK has struggled a little bit since McNabb got that puck in the face. Like he's a big part of that. He was in the box for the one that the Blake one went in. I think that was the five hole from from Svetchenikov. And then, and then also, I mean, Carlson, that one doesn't we can't we don't need to overstate that one again. But right now, just a couple significant injuries in the Vegas goldmine lineup. What do you got? Anzi, anything else? No, I think we touched on right for both games. Boss man. Boss. Yeah, first goalie in NHL history to make his first two career playoff starts in the cup finals and win both of them. So just to see his interview after game four as well, where I think it was Kyle Bukowski's mentioning and showing him the video of his parents and the crowd. And he got pretty emotional. And I think for a guy like that, it's it's probably even even more emotional to watch because like you were never a sure fire vet to even play in the NHL. Like you were on waivers and camp. And now you're winning a cup final game and your parents are there. And it's like the emotion takes over. But it was a pretty cool moment that shows it. It takes a village, right? Like his imagine what his parents have meant to his career. And it's not just like the rides and what people talk about in terms of being having good hockey parents and all the time they give up. It's probably a lot of like therapy sessions at times with his dad or his mom when you don't know if you ever make it and you get you get sent down. You don't make the team. And they're just the ones that are probably keeping him pretty positive, which he seemed to be a very positive guy when we interviewed him. I really enjoyed chatting with him. So that was pretty cool to see the emotion that he was going through even saying like, I didn't know you're going to make this ride. You're showing him again tonight. Especially as a goalie too, right? When you're younger, you probably don't have the goalie coaches on the ride homes. You're talking with your dad or your mom getting everything off your chest, whatever it is. But when we interview, he just seems so in the moment with everything that he kind of does. And you can tell on the ice, like he's never too high, never too low. He's, you know, he's smiling up there if he needs to. He's serious. He's got the crazy eyes going. He's just, he seems like just a prototypical perfect goalie that nothing really rattles on him. And he's been incredible. And I don't know, like it does honestly seem which it shouldn't in the NHL, but that opposite hand is just screwing with the Vegas golden nights a little bit. Yeah, there's definitely some things that go different on it. I got to ask you guys, is it his net the rest of the way? No matter what happens in Vegas on Sunday. I think so. Yeah, especially if Anderson's actually hurt. Yeah. Yeah, that if it wasn't hurt, maybe he doesn't play well game six. They lose. They go back to him at this point. Now it's like and and and it's just back to like the guy who's unbelievable all season, whatever he play. I mean, what do you lose five games? The way this the way this series and season have gone. It's going to be Anderson vs. Hillin game seven. Fucking give me a break. No, it'll be like co-check off first bill. Holy shit. Now I said Keynes and seven before the series. So I still think with the madness of this series, Vegas could pull it off. Paulson things. It's heart not being able to stop the puck or not be able to not give up four goals. And then the Carlson, I don't know what's more worse or more important. I guess heart considering Carlson's now done and towards thinking we're all complete idiots. For even mentioning a former Stanley Cup winning goal tender for that organization possibly playing for a guy who can't save the puck. Don't you think just confidence-wise like Carter Hart seen those quotes from his coach. And he's like, I know I've given up four every game. This guy's got my fucking back. I got to go out there game six. Yeah, out of my nuts off. And I like to play from towards to stick with his guy. Yeah. And what was the last game? Hill played, right? So it's like you stick with your guy who's got you there. You got to ride them. And and if he can get you two more wins. If not, it's like you still you still you had your guy and you went with him. You you lived by the sword, died by the sword. I want to say to Carolina fans, there's one thing I don't love. And going back to 2024, the Oilers, they went three in a row to force a game seven in the two days off. And I think Carolina would be begging to play this game Saturday night. That extra day off going home, I think it helps Vegas. Maybe the pace Carolina plays with just to get them a little bit more energy they like. But I'm looking to get back on as quick as we can to try to lift Lord Stanley. And now Vegas, just an extra day leader, you know, a very veteran group. Would you not agree that that helps them? I think it always helps the losing team. It didn't it showed in game four. They had to break after game three two days. Carolina, you know, it's not as bad a thing. So you get that extra day and just it's a brand new start. Yeah, especially for I think bossy would rather play that, you know, one day in between, fetching a cob, aha, those guys who scored got feeling good about themselves. So with the extra day might be worse on them. So yeah, I think if you're a golden night fan, you're happy for the extra day. Pretty crazy that that was the first game of the cup final that wasn't tied at any point of the third period. And the rating they've just gone up and up and up. I'd like to see tonight's, but I'm assuming it's higher than game four, which was higher than game three, which was higher than game two and so on. So the ratings have been incredible. The hockey's been unreal. Let's hope we get at least one. If not two more, more nutzo crack hockey games, that would be ideal. Um, what anything else, but any you guys on this series? No, I think we've I think we've covered it all and it's been great. It's lived up to every bit of hype and we talked about it before it started. Like people are like, ah, there's no one's going to watch it. Boring storyline. Are you out of your fucking mind, buddy? This is on everything we expected and more so far in this series. We didn't, we didn't think Caroline was going to be able to keep up goal wise with the Vegas golden nights. Yeah, it is crazy, but it's insane. That was that. That was one thing. Can they score? They haven't really had to score that much. And they're scoring. I don't ever remember seeing them score like this. I'm sure there's times in regular season they're putting up this many goals, but I thought these would all be two one. Well, let's, this will be the last pod. There won't be another pod before the game on Sunday. Right now it's a coin toss minus one 10. Who are your picks for game six? Who you got winning? Whit. I got only because I picked Caroline and seven. I'm going to just stick to my guns there and script. I'm going to say four to Vegas with an empty netter. So heart is able. And I'm called for his job, but he's able to not give up four goals and we see a game seven. Yeah, as much as I'd like to wait till the tarot card reader lady puts out perfect to give mine. I'm going Vegas and I like a four or three overtime win. I have a feeling it's going overtime to and I I'm going to say I'm going to say four or three overtime as well. Yeah, and I'm going to steal your pick. I like that. I think he's up, Doc. What opposed to go is an overtime. Say it on three, one, two, three. Do you have what'd you say? Houdin. Oh, all right. That's what I got. It's going to be a great game. Yeah, I got to, I got to go with Vegas. I think it's going to be low scoring. We're going to get one low scoring game. Give me the three two overtime Vegas with stone doing it and coming by with his big hand and all that. And then I'll fly back from Sweden for game seven because I got to see the cup on the ice every year. Yeah, big knob. March. But the cup would be in the building for game six if you want to change that flight to Sweden from. Yeah, I see. I have you. Pinky. I mean, Vegas calls me. I'm in. Take it easy tomorrow night in Vegas. Rip it up Saturday. Rip it up Sunday. Then fly to Carolina where there's another two days off. They wouldn't play till Wednesday game seven. You got this. And then right back to Sweden on the grind, a daddy daycare style. Hey, Chickles fans, we're going to take a quick break for a message from one of our partners. Being lucky, you should be meet the new lucky one sweet tea from Miss Peaches. The vodka drink that's positively doing good, made with real tea and real vodka, non-carbonated, the 100 calories. And here's the scoop. 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Sometimes if you forgot to dress shirt on the road, but you had a collar to one on the tie. Exactly. I mean, I don't even, I didn't even like the short sleeve dress shirts with the tie. Oh, those are my favorites. That's a bad look. So I think next in the docket is quite obvious, just a wild, wild story that is very funny. That kind of indirectly like comes back to us a little bit. We're not looking to ever get people fired. We're not looking to really break news. We're just kind of the guys who talk about what's what's happened. We don't dig what has happened. It's busy. It's not big. We're not diggers. But Mike Babcock is apparently the oiler's choice to be their new head coach. Now a bunch of things to discuss here. Like I'm going to start it off with like what a fucking clown show the oilers have been. But let's let's go over the oilers during this and they lost. Let's go over the oilers since they lost. It breaks that they want to talk to Bruce Cassidy. They need permission from Vegas. Vegas says no. They have not said a word about Chris Knoblock. They think they're going to be able to get an interview Bruce Cassidy quietly. If they get him or want to hire him or decide to hire him, they'll then fire Chris Knoblock. Well, the news breaks because they're not allowed to talk to him. So then they have to fire Chris Knoblock. They're then talking about trading or making nurse make his no move clause, not valid and work with him to make a trade. That leaks before they talk to him. All of a sudden they want to hire Mike Babcock. That's the guy they're going to go with because they must know Vegas is never going to say yes to Cassidy. Then the NHL PA has to go and launch an investigation that was going to happen before he resigned from Columbus, but after his resignation, before he ever coached a game, by the way, the investigation was canceled. What a cluster, fuck. What a clown show. And then now it's coming out that nurse is requesting a trader. Is that false? And then I don't that's an I don't know where that I saw that pop up, but I'd never know what's these probably seeing all this shit go down and saying, fuck, I'm done. I'm done with my name getting dragged to the mud. Get me the fuck out of here. Yeah. And I don't want to play for babs either. Now I do have to say that it's the players obviously in Edmonton. And when people say the players, I'm pretty sure it's two plates, like, and maybe it's not just those two guys. And I'm going to be asked Jari. And then Hyman. And yeah, they're exactly they're asking people have said, Hyman's been the biggest advocate. Oh, I think Hyman, Hyman is a part of that leadership group. I think New York, Hopkins is a part of the leadership groups. I thought nurse was, but he's now gone. Well, they asked me, said no, so they told him he had to go. They want Babcock. Okay. That is why it is hard to sit back and just completely carve this considering the players were brought in and just and everything was discussed with them. And apparently they met with Babcock. I don't know who, but some of them did. And they're like, this is who we need. On the other side of it, I'm going to say this is a fucking joke. I cannot believe. I cannot believe the amount of talented hockey coaches that are in the world right now. That Mike Babcock, this, this, this, there's 15 to 20 guys who publicly have spoken about how bad of a guy Mike Babcock is. And, and we got a team that literally needs to win Stanley Cup next year, Rick and Mike Babcock, who hasn't won a playoff series in 13 years. He want to Stanley Cup with the legitimate like, whoa, look at that team that beat us. They were all the fucking hall of fame half of them. It's not exactly like a one gold medals. You've seen the rosters of the gold medal teams. Gee, could have used them this year. I don't understand of all the people out there. Mike Babcock. That's what it is. No, it's great. Well, so from from like the sheer like when it broke entertainment perspective of it, it's like, Oh, you love this. You love it. Well, no, but there's two, two sides of the coin. I love it because it's like, Oh my God, like this is a fucking insane storyline. Like what are the chances that this dysfunctional team we just talked about who went through the Cassidy situation is now bringing in Mike Babcock. Like, that's a crazy thing. Like, right? That's like, like if you would have said, give me your top 50 craziest headlines, nobody in their mind would have guessed that. Nobody would have guessed that. The other side, I think we mentioned this joking on an episode. Yeah, because exactly. That's how far fetched it was. We were stupid enough to say it. But the other side of it, I don't, I'm okay if this guy coaches again. Like, I'm okay with it. Like who the fuck am I going to break any laws? Yeah, I mean, maybe, maybe in some cases with taking a guy's phone and asking because I think they like handed over the phone. Well, I get there's some discrepancy there. Like, I don't think legally this guy, like ever, right? But, but also, but if you got my Commodore saying, fuck you busy, no way he should coach again. I'd say, well, I'm going to sit this one out because I wasn't a guy who he personally like, basically shit on, bags gated to try to strip all of his confidence. And it said she play mind games with him. And my Commodore is not the only guy who talks about it. We've told plenty of examples. We talked about the Mike Medano 1500 game. And the fact he wasn't able to play it because whatever, whatever reason, Babcock had some personal vendetta against him. Well, that's when he said, we didn't bring in here to play 1500 games. We brought you into when the Stanley Cup, when they could have done both. They could have done both. Possibly. The Johann Franz and stuff's probably the worst stuff we've heard. It's minor. The Mars shed is kind of ridiculous, too. What do you have? What do you do? He told them right, right down to like the five laziest guys on the team, basically, and then he called the most and then and then he went in the room and read the list. So just stuff like that put in guys behind the eight ball and stuff where it's like, there's enough like mental energy to go around to like fix the power play and help this guy and help that guy were, why are you taking brain power to to do the type of shit that we've heard that he's done behind the scenes. obviously the most recent, get the younger guys and it's also been described publicly as the fact that it was, oh, he would show pictures of his family on his phone and then ask the married guys with kids to show their family photos. And yes, that type of situation has happened with Babcock and former teams and maybe even some of the players in Columbus. But the problem what was happening was he was basically getting these younger players to open up their phones and scroll through. Do I know what he was looking for? Could it have been maybe text messages between some of the younger players and their other buddies about the fact that he's even a fucking head coach again in Columbus. Could it be that he wants to see party pictures like in the past, like we've heard from Tyson Barry, where he wants to know what your habits are off the ice and wants to get the upper hand by looking at what you have as far as pictures. Oh, this is, this is what you think's funny. This is what you're sharing with your buddies. This is what you're taking photos of. So I just think it's a, it was a massive invasion of privacy. It was a type of, you know, another way to get a mental edge because maybe he can't get away with the stuff that he did earlier in his coaching days. But with all that said, maybe he will finally learn from all that. And maybe we're going to see a different version of Mike Babcock. I don't care. I don't got to be in that fucking room. I don't give a flying fuck. If that leadership group are there, that desperate to find a coach that they think can steer them the right way to win a Stanley Cup. And they think the answer is Mike Babcock will then go have it. And, and if they win it and he's a change man, it's a great story. If he's going to continue to be an asshole, like, like Commodore says, it's not the, the McDavid's or the dry side. Also those, those guys who made the decision for him to be coached are going to suffer. It's the arena staff guy, the parking lot attendant. It's the people that in Mike Babcock's world don't really matter like the fourth liners and the guys he can fucking toy with. It's, it's, it's, it's those people that you got to worry about. And that's why Mike Commodore has been doing the media tour and talking about it because he dealt with it firsthand and he can speak to it. So once again, there's two sides to this. The entertainment, Babcock's back, oh my goodness, Edmonton Oilers, they're in desperate need of a Stanley Cup during Conor McDavid's core years. And if they don't get it in the next year or two and this doesn't work, he's probably gone. Yeah, that's fucking entertaining for what we do here as a podcast. But I'm not taking away any of the feelings that the Tyson berries, the, the mariner's, the, the franzans, the, the Commodore's. I'm not taking away their firsthand experience as to how hellish this guy can be. There's more than kind of goes into this. This is according to Frank Zarevali. So he said, um, yesterday, no, Wednesday, if the oilers elect to continue down the path with Mike Babcock, sources say the NHLPA is in receipt of significant additional claims from their own investigation with players that were so not publicly reported. Then he says furthermore, sources indicate that asking players to see photos is not what ultimately resulted in Babcock's resignation. It was the subsequent unknown allegations reported below. So it's like, there's even more that we didn't even know about at the time of the Columbus resignation. The only thing I was going to say is like for McDavid and dry side on that core group, like, it gives them an out in a year. If it, if it goes sideways with him as the coach, they can be like, Hey, listen, it didn't work here. Now I want out. So I, if I was them, it's like, yeah, whatever. If you really want to bring this guy in, whether do you think McDavid and dry side will went to Kate's and said, Hey, we need, it's them coming to exactly in saying, Hey, home and coming to, to hit them saying, Hey, look at what this guy's done. We're thinking of him. We can't get Cassidy. Why don't you guys meet with him? What the fuck you think he's going to say to Leonic? I don't know. Hey, boys. How's the summer going? We'll get 130 points for the next year. It's like fucking ruin of fourth line of life and end of what I'm in therapy. Which by the way, that's a joke because McDavid, I mean, it's just, it's just kind of ridiculous. And like standard moments, the GM at Babcock's, the coach is like, listen, and I'd love to get stuff on the talk about it, but it goes back to the management shit. And he said, well, you know, you weren't hard as hard on Colorado as Edmonton. I think there's been a lot more fumble fucking here from Edmonton Euler's management. There has been from Colorado. And then now you stuff is saying, like, there's no doubt in his mind that that Connor McDavid is going to be here for the next seven, eight years after this deal. Okay. So all the sudden, the Babcock hiring's going to change that or was he just given them a couple of free years at 12 and a half? Like, what's going on here? You tell me if we get the next year of what we just saw this year, that he's going to stay for that second year of that 12 and a half million dollar deal. No. I don't know. I'm not calling stuff a liar either. I'm just kind of saying like, hey, man, we're just, we just posed the questions around here and it seems a little ugly on that side right now. And it seems like a major, major desperation move. Didn't, uh, I'm in just higher Babcock's son and for the junior. Yeah. That's what I was going to ask you with. Don't you find that funny that they hired him first? And it was kind of the news, Babcock's back as coach saw a land, L team, soft land. Yeah. And then they bring them there. So I just feel like, maybe that's how it went. Leon, they're all meeting around and they're like, hi, man. Like, what was he like? You think he's the one that could get us over the. Oh, Hyman, Hyman's career took off with him. And I'm guessing that he's a guy that Hyman would say, Hey, like, he played the shit out of me. I he probably taught me a lot on how hard I have to play. Like, you know how hard that guy plays forward checking wise in front of the net. And Babs gives him a real chance and he goes on to be a real good player of the leaves. Signs a huge ticket and look at him now as a player. I mean, he scored 50 fucking goals last year, two years ago. So that's a guy that would probably have some things to tell Connor and Leon, like, Hey, like, and by the way, like Toronto is pretty good with him. Is I know they never really did much, but they had some good teams. But I like, like I said, I have no problem with him, even getting another opportunity. But that's yeah, I'm not a dude. I kind of do, man. You're more so this. They're so different. It's such an honor to coach in the NHL. I know I'm, but great. And I'm not trying to like make light of what has happened. I'm a big second chance guy. You could, you might be saying, well, fuck, you already got a second chance. The second chance was coming back with Columbus. And you didn't even make it over to training camp. That crowd right there, I just refused to be the type of guy to stop on someone's grave. You just got to hope that somebody like that, like, you know, it learns from what he's done. I mean, what's the guy, 50 something years old? He has to learn at some point to not be a fucking asshole or treat people respect. Yeah, I think there are some people in life who never learn. I think that I'm with you, dude. I know you're, you're an optimist and you, you see the best in people and I, I wish I was more like you. I think I'm getting better as I age. But there's definitely people who just don't change. And the fact of the matter is that guy can obviously coach. I was making a joke before about the Red Wing's team he won with. And but he brought that duck's team to the cup file in 03. And he obviously excellent old wise knows what he's doing. I mean, you're not running hockey Canada and wouldn't two gold medals. If you're not dialed, it's just the off ice stuff. And like beyond the fourth liners and the six and seven defenseman, we could torture because it's never the superstars who catch the heat. Once it starts coming out that he's like giving it to arena workers and parking attendance, too. It's like, this guy's coaching the fucking oilers in the second to last year. McDavid's contract. But, but McDavid's like, okay with it. So that's where as an oilers fan, I'm kind of like, I mean, how are you supposed to say like how are you supposed to completely carve it? Although I think I'm completely carving it with the best player in the world being like, no, like this is who we want. Obviously you're an Edmonton fan. What do you think fans are saying? Like, have you read anything on Twitter? I've seen, I've seen, I think I've, I would say what I've read is like 60 40 don't like it, but there are fans who listen, all oilers fans, I think agree. You need a little bit of a hard aspect there now. You know, I don't think Woodcroft was super tough on them. The all blocks are a lot of barely spoke. I mean, I don't even, I never see that guy make a facial expression on the bench. He was just even killed. And now I think they want somebody that's demanding. And, and, but once again, like, Leon and Connor, they don't, what are you going to say to them? They're, they're the best players. They don't really fuck up. Now, would a guy come in there, like Cassidy or Babcock would be like, hey, I was bullshit from you guys tonight. You, where were you defensively? You were cheating. I assume. And maybe that's what they want to. It's just for this Babcock, like Babcock, what are we doing? It's crazy. Like Babcock. I'd rather like, like, I would rather, and I saw a couple reports that like, say the NHLP, they, so they now have, this is, they now got to go do that. And keep in mind, I was saying that based on not knowing what this other investigation ended up finding. Like I, I genuinely nobody knows. Yeah. So I don't know what was found. Okay. So here's the thing. When he resigned, the NHLP investigation was canceled because it's like, oh, well, they should have just done it then. They should have done it, even though he resigned to, to find out if this guy and whatever he did is now like done and like banned. You know what I mean? Because by not doing, and I don't really blame the PA because he resigned. So the P is like, Oh, we got rid of the problem. He can be. Yeah. They're like us. They didn't think he'd be coming back. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. So Marty Walsh and Haynesi, they're like, yeah, well, this guy's done for us. See you later. Yeah. And and now all of a sudden, I'm sure Haynesi and Marty Walsh are like, what the fuck? They got to go back. They got to, they get us meet with all those guys on Columbus. What do you think those guys want to do? It's June 12th. They're just like trained. Oh, we got to talk about that day. Babcock took my phone and scroll through my pictures. But like I said, there's something else. So if this comes out that whatever else he did is too bad to allow him to coach in the league again, then the oilers, then what are they doing? Because they're not obviously they're not getting Cassidy. I also can't believe that they didn't just wait and say, Babs, we're going to hire you and if we don't get Cassidy and then Vegas gives them the official no after the cup final, okay, Babs, come on in. So if they, if they're not allowed to hire Babcock now, I saw some, I saw some Darryl Sutter stuff fish. Oh God. I saw Darryl Sutter tweet. Well, Stoff told us, wow, a month ago, it's going to be a guy guy that's one, one, a cop and I forget what word he used like gravitas. My new favorite word, cadence. I don't think Babcock ever coaches a game with the Edmonton oilers. I agree with EG. I just think it's going to keep snowballing here and I think the ownership is finally going to realize like, hey, the juice is not worth the squeeze here. What a waste of time and energy to get to that point. And the season, like this season could end in three days and then Vegas is like, they're kind of obligated to, I mean, they're excused before was we don't have the time right now to figure this out. Well, you've got the time now. So you can go Bruce Cassidy could go to Edmonton. So it's like, I don't at this point, at this point, they're saying, I don't, I don't think Vegas is letting Cassidy interview with the oilers. I think they're out of division. Yeah. And now that this has happened, they're like, oh, a division rival is a complete clown show over there. Like, nope, sorry. Batman should be begging the Vegas Golden Knights to let Bruce Cassidy interview in Edmonton, I swear, I swear to God right now. The second rounder. If they can't get Cassidy and Babs is not allowed to coach, they go, I'm calling my, I'm calling Tarryan. If you need an, that's as an old guy. If you need an adjustment guy, he's demanding and he's an exes an old wizard. And I'm trying to pick who else is they obviously want an old school hard-ass guy. Terry Ryan senior. Who else is out there best seriously? Terry Ryan senior. It seems like, but did Edmonton even reach out to the league and to the PA to get this get, because it seems like it just kind of hit the headlines in that it was just hit everybody over the head with the new, but I don't know. They traded Stewart center is a UFA for Jari's contract. If they just kept Skinner crazy, he's now off the books and they could offer big money if a broad scare. So I'm Thomas Thomas shit. I've ever seen it is a clock. It's a clock. That might be dummer than the Babcock there. Imagine right now if they just had a bunch of, if they were able to unload the nurse contract, then had a bunch of dough to get a goalie. By the way, a goalie that was on waivers might win the Stanley Cup in two nights. Why not Craig Barubi? Like, why haven't they like, Craig Barubi is a hard-ass. Like, he's not going through people's phones. I don't think he's the best X's and O's and like, adjustment guy. I didn't see a lot of that in Toronto. It's like, well, I was going to say it wasn't a great year, but like Cassidy got fired and they wanted him. But I mean, that's not yeah, I don't know. I don't know. But the way that this all broke, it was incredible when that came. It was incredible when that news came. And I can't really think of any other coaches who could like, just step into that situation, who have any type of gravitas and cadence. Like, I'm not even fucking around. I can't even think of any names outside of that. But Labio would have been an option down the line. But now he's gone, he's in LA. So it's a wild, wild time. The league that the league, they do not disappoint right now, this league. It just comes up with wackier and wilder story. Let's get Mike Babcock. But by the way, I think a month ago, Craig had a sweetie-ass babble about coaching goes, I love being retired. He's like, okay. And the oil. So now Mike Babcock, crazy stuff. Well, torts could be a guy. He might be available for that. If they decide to not go with torts, that is for sure, or they just offer him a way better deal. He thought he isn't signed for next year. Yeah, but if he wins a cup, he'll be all happy right after they'll get him signed. I don't know, man. They win. He says five times five for torts at his age. He's probably thinking, Jing Jing. Well, in better news around the league, Cooch did it, boys. One of the closest MVP votes ever. I believe was it. Did he beat McDavid by a hundred points or ten points? It was close. Real close. But Coocherov is the MVP, his second MVP trophy. Gee, how many people have won the MVP two times or more? What's your guess? My guess is 10. No, not that many. I don't know, man. We might be able to name 10 right now. MVP, a guy who won multiple. So McDavid, David, Coocherov, Bobby Orr. I'm guessing Gordy Howl. Sure. Maurice was shard, probably. Yeah, I bet you, I bet you, it's around 10 really. More than you think. Gila Flore. It's 20. Whoa. Yeah. Gretzky Gordy Howl, Eddie Shore, Bobby, Bobby Orr, Bobby Clark, Mario Lemieux, Alex Vetchkin, Connor McDavid. There's, there's a lot of guys here though. Yeah. Okay. Still pretty sick. Cooch just doing his thing. And that run he went on this year, something that was to, well, I think it was around 60 points and like 25, 28 games that run he went on. Incredible season by him. So that was pretty sweet. It was kind of crazy, though, that I saw Colorado having the season they had. They didn't get the MVP. They didn't get the noise. They got the rock at them. They got the rocket. That's it. The washard. Yeah. He went over this today. McKinnon ended up getting that one, but I agree with you. Rob led the league and assist per game, points per game, even strength points per game, third in goal differential, seventh among forwards in like percentage goal four. They advanced that in incredible season. So who should always want to get better too? That was the video. I think Cooop said, and then he goes, he's just never ever satisfied. The sign of a true legend. He wants to do more. He wants to win it again next year. So we talked about it with the sandbagger that just dropped. I can't remember if it made it to the cup, but Ryan McDonough, that was during Olympic break. And Ryan McDonough was saying Cooch was on the ice for two hours every day, skating by himself just out there working on his craft. He's not one of those guys. You might look at him be like, oh, everything just comes natural to this guy, but he puts in the hours man. That guy works his nuts off on the ice off the ice and to be a two-time hard trophy winner is incredible to do. Yeah, happy for him. Yeah. I mean, I would have been happy with either like every guy winning it. I feel like it was one of those years where just so many different players had exceptional years, but that point run you talked about and what he's able to do year and year out. Yeah, he's a legend. So Tampa got Vassy won the Besner, right? Yep. Cooch won coach of the year and then they got, wow, that's an incredible year for them. Yeah, pretty good off here. The voting was interesting. You guys obviously, you could pretty much name the top four, right? It was Kuchirov, it was McDavid, it was McKenna, we knew that. Celebrity and obvious four. The fifth place in MVP was Suzuki Suzuki. Oh, pasta was six. Werencky seven. Cole Caulfield was eight. Raspestaline nine. Vaseleski was 10. So actually, Moritz Cider was 11th in MVP voting. It's pretty cool. Last thing, we just mentioned quick. Lavi Alek gets the LA job. This guy, I didn't have a job forever. I think he just gets hired. For sure. For a couple of years from LA, it gets hired. We hired that summer. It's an endless family cop. Yeah, you just, you get a job forever. Yeah, just deeper side, than him. He'll never, he'll never coach the upstate stars at the chicklets cup. I can guarantee you that. Okay, fair, fair, fair. He did, he did cut you after scoring a goal and exhibition again with him bullshit on the plane, handing me the plane ticket on the plane. Talk about like, can I start a babcock thing about him? We're, we're going through a coaching search too with the Gargoyles. Okay. So I think we should hire the guy who does the TV, the radio, the PR, that guy who's always on the Instagram hire him as the coach. We could do that. I agree. Just, but like, he still has to do all the other stuff too. You're a jackable. Can Cassidy coach another league? Or is that still kind of like tampering? Well, he could coach in the NHL. It's just certain teams Vegas won't let him. Okay. Hey, chicken's fans, we're going to take a quick break for a message from one of our partners. On game day, get sub stacked high at Jersey mics like the number 13 original Italian loaded with meats, cheese and toppings or the number 56 big Kahuna cheese steak with grilled steak, peppers, onions and mushrooms topped with jalapenos and melty cheese. Get your sub fixed on game day in order in store or the Jersey Mike's app. Let's throw it over to R.A.'s world who has perfected his jump shot. I don't know if you guys saw that. I stopped at a shell gas station with R.A. A couple days ago and all he was doing is come playing it. Well, let's save it till he gets on it because he drives it. He's a great driver to bring on R.A. [MUSIC] >> Hello, everybody. Welcome to R.A.'s world here on Spit and Chick. Let's late night. I love it. I feel like David Letterman when we go to this our fun stuff. Great to see you boys this week at a fun time catching up. Great pizza yesterday at Dashi's K.Y. Good pick. Dude, you know what time I got home last night? No, I didn't stay gas in the beer. Not at the years left. I didn't get home until 9 o'clock last night. Dude, the signal doesn't work in that bar. I couldn't get an Uber. I couldn't get a lift. I tried walking down the street. I had to call a taxi. I waited a half hour for. I didn't get home until 9 o'clock after the game time. >> Oh, sorry to do that. >> But I had a good cab driver. Actually, that's the way to go when you hit log of bike. No, good to catch up in the locks. >> 9 o'clock's like two in the afternoon for you though. >> You know, through my whole cycle off wet. But, but, Murr, what would I would complain about? >> Remember you at the gas station there? Well, of course, you knew the guy too. The one guy, the other customer. Were you're complaining about the gas prices these days? >> Well, I think every American that had that, and I don't even own a car, but I, you know, I, but I borrowed a car, he put gas in it. Yeah, I think anybody who's filling in the gas tank now is probably pretty pissed off when they look at the price and, well, whatever, the specific. >> You should get in the electric car. >> I'm not getting any kind. I don't, I don't, like, he'd ban from the streets wet. >> I know, I'm not, he'd answer. >> We, we, we, we got a lot of calls. I think both our wives were not impressed with us. Rollerblading on Interstate 90. It was more dangerous drive around Boston with all right. Then Rollerblading would be dead in there. >> He doesn't, he's, he's openly admitted. He doesn't believe in red lights in the city. >> Correct. >> Down, down, down, sometimes optional. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, I don't, I don't know. There's like white riders and like, people walk it everywhere. >> But I mean, bro, bro, and I didn't meet up the story about a baby casualty. But I mean, I think, I think I knew how like, much of a shit you pants, I think I might have been maybe up on the troll fact a little behind the wheel. But I mean, you know, I, like I said, I've had one accident in my life. I wasn't found that fall five. >> Well, you don't have a car. >> I did for several years, up until a few years ago. >> Where did you have? >> Oh, God, I just 600 back on the day. A Subaru hatchback, back on the day. The last guy I had was Toyota Cambry, which is great. >> You had a Subaru hatchback? >> Yeah, yeah. I was in college, it was an experimental phase. >> I'm a sticker of this car climb out Washington. >> Oh, for sure. >> No, it's actually my, my mother's. It was a, he hit me down and, yeah, it's a terrific vehicle. That I enjoyed it. >> What was your favorite thing about it? >> The reliability, honestly, and it was a stick shift. It was one of my cars, like, I bet many of you guys know how to drive a stick shift, right? >> I do, my dad's a truck driver, dude. >> So what the fuck's happened to it, you? My father fired me and that told me I'm going to go put the fucking fire. >> Well, he had stick shift cars growing up. So that's all I know. >> All counts, so you learned on a stick shift. >> Okay. >> Did you learn on a truck, though? >> Yeah, 18 really. >> All of us did those both ways. Anyways, boys, tonight, I think the Russian has cut. This is the first game where we were watching Vegas and they just, they didn't look nervous, they, but they just looked all, all kind of. I think the first time maybe Panic has set in, maybe among that team, that fan base, maybe the team is a Panic, but yeah, they just, they didn't have that pushback that we've seen so much from both teams this series. Just want to absolutely give it a shot. It will cost us to be a man, you know, a guy who started off great in the career, kind of bounced around a bit, but he's been playing terrific clocky, particularly in this finals right now. Also, I love root for old dudes like that. I came in at Judd Martinook, you know, two, three, three old guys been hunting for a long time. So, but particularly, it cost us to be the way he's been playing. And I don't know if you saw this Twitter relic clip, Elliott actually asked him if Thursday's afternoon press conference about, you know, making mistakes late in games. And to what's to say, and how he was watching the next game last night, well, Wednesday night. And basically how mistakes happen and guys kind of freeze up. Far right side, Elliott. John, you watched the end of the basketball game last night? I did. OK, so I just, you know, wanted to ask you about, like, they've been watching our games. Oh, yeah. So there, your guys show support back, right? Well, I just, I mean, who would have thought, I wanted to go to bed, but when they got it down to 15, you knew something stupid was going to happen. I'm just basically saying the same stupid stuff happened in our series. Well, that's kind of what I wanted to ask you is, like, there's the play at the end of the game where the spurs player goes in to take the layup when he could take it back out and kill the clock. And I just wanted to ask you as a coach. In moments like that, you've got really smart players who really know hockey, like, in the excitement of the moment and it forces them to make decisions that maybe they wouldn't normally make, like, just when you watch that and you see that, what do you think is a coach? Yeah, and you watch that play, but I forget the guy is the basketball player's name. But he's probably a very intelligent player. I think the intensity and just the moment that's going on in the finals now. I mean, they're human beings. It just overcomes you sometimes to do some stupid things. And yeah, I don't have an answer. Who can explain some of the things that's going on in this series? One thing is a coach you look for as long as they care. As long as they're trying, that's all you can ask. And there'll be some crazy things that go along with it. Basically, he was saying like, as long as he has a coach, as long as you guys don't, you ask them to and give them the effort, then, you know, these guys are human beings. It's a much longer, like, a labyrinth of answer, but it's good stuff. It was just pretty good. Well, that's why he was so disgusted about game four. Is he's like, we gave them that stall call, a complete pizza. I think it was Theodore. Jarvis gets the mini breakaway, save on that play, and then it goes to the corner, I three guys are standing around Jarvis. He wins the battle. Nobody just eliminates him gets it to dealers who find stall and I think towards it, that's what I can't handle that. Like, that's what that makes me so mad. We gave them that. And it has been a theme that like a lot of Carolina goals, not necessarily tonight, but like throughout this series, because it's kind of just like brainfarts, couple brainfarts. And you mentioned the MacNab penalty earlier. And that was a shock. I mean, obviously credit to coming back from that injury, but it was right after the previous penalty. It ended up essentially being the difference of the game, Carolina got the two one lead, which they never relinquished. You know, it's never the first game back coming back from that nose thing. It's always the games after that. Because you're able to ride on adrenaline coming back from that to getting hit in the puck with the face or getting in the face with the puck. And it just feels like maybe energy-wise and like he's like a step behind right now. And yeah, as you talked about when you're playing with the cage, it kind of fucks you up peripherally a little bit. So that'll help like or hurt with your stick movement, your stick plays, and maybe just a little brainfard there as a result of it, too, against Blake. And as far as that cloud spike, the odds stall is now minus 120. Mine is up to plus 320. Stank over and plus 650. All seven of one deal is 16 to one. And everybody else is way over 100 to one. But murals, what's interesting? I wrote the odds for the next game. That one we started here. It's still a pick on minus 110. But the over and under one from six and a half down to five and a half just in the last like half hours. Plus see they heard my pick. I said 320t was my pick. What's your pick for Sunday? I think it's going to go seven. I think we haven't really seen a goal 10 in the battle. Although tonight's game did go under murals. Am I correct? Wasn't it six and a half? I didn't look at that. Well, wow, murals not like you. I believe six and a half the last ice ride. So for us game to go wonder, I think we do feel like a real goalie battle. And I think Vegas sits the yuggle for two with an empty net. That's what that's what Whit had, right? Yeah, that's for two empty enter. By the way, Whit, how do you feel after now the video is out? We could talk about it. You dunk in that from the fairway in the last time that was awesome. Yeah, we were waiting for that to come out. I mean, just with Groot in there. And like Maroon and McDonough run over and Groot in there. But Groot and what do you say? Well, you didn't come over and graduate. He goes, I got a new hip man. Make it over there, man. But Groot is the fucking best. Oh, he's the best. He's so funny. Starts with good guys, funny. Great story teller. Great storyteller. A million stories. Just his voice. Everything about him. I love that guy. And then he's, I think after that was the part three. Keith stuck it. We won that hole. And then the next hole is when he gave us the Brett Farve story. So that was a great, that was a great bag of a puttin' yeah. Keith hit an eight iron. I'm one iron. I'm all, if Keith hits an eight, I hit a seven. Keith hits a six. I hit a five. And Keith hit eight. And I think it was just, it was there. But like maybe a little short. No question seven iron, right? Right when I hit it, we knew it was good. But that was, that was incredible. The fact that went in. What a unbelievable, that was one of those moments. It's amazing. I'm like birthed right now. A lot of the comments like, holy fuck, it wasn't a hole in one. It wasn't an album. Oh, shut the fuck up. It's fucked up. He's fucking losers online. Man, I drive these fucking dudes. There was our buddies against Grootin and two awesome friends of ours who were Stanley Cup champs. And we hold a shot for an eagle, even if we're going to fuck it. Sit there and just give a couple of nox pinkies up. No, we're going to go bananas. So we went bananas. Where'd you read that? Some asshole on Twitter? A couple people wrote me like, oh, fuck, everybody on a golf course. It's like, I don't know. But if you ever hit a shot from 160 yards. up hill. Probably not. With a seven iron that went directly into the hole. I don't know. Sorry, I celebrated too hard. Sorry for having a good time. Sorry for enjoying my job and my friends and my life miserable. I will say there was very funny comments of like this. This is this is AI. There's zero chances. Happened. These guys edited it. I did like those. Just like the squirrel mauling my face. What do you think? Yes. Now I was going to say before you gave that rundown. I was going to say I wish I could have bottled that like excitement that we had because I mean you don't get that too much excited anymore in life like to bottle that and have it and I didn't even make the shot just to know the egg for it. It was I was a bottle. We made the shot. We made the shot. What'd you say? I get your bottle. That's the key. Oh, we know. All right. I let you off. I don't want to end this. Brothers who weren't done with. No, what was that? I didn't want something. What shock was that? Because someone did ask me if there was a hole in one and I believe it. What was the yardage to their with? No, I'm not being a dick. I didn't want to see. No, you hit one from the fair where you dunked one eagle. I just said wasn't a hole in one or wasn't. I know I was and I just acknowledged. I know it wasn't a hole in one. Some of the else asked me. I didn't. My second shot, I think it was the 13. Okay. So wasn't a hole in one. No, wasn't a hole in one. It was a second shot on a par for a bird. Either way with the shot was wildly impressive. People are coming up to me and saying how good it was. I'm going with Makati. Look at those idiots online haters. Let me preface this next point with. Okay, every single fan base for every team in the planet has dickhead fans, asshole fans, idiot fans, no doubt about it. But what we're seeing out of the fucking New York next fan during this finals is wow. Dude, they're soccer and dudes ripping their clothes off. Did they fucking try to light a guy's hair on fire and then yet like after they won my match, you let your co-off in the backfire. Right. Atomic. Yeah. They saved me 50 bucks on the head. But like, look, I know the exuberance is celebrating. They've had a lead off series. The other day, the last day, dude, threw a fucking traffic on the end. Now, minimum of seven pounds, 30 feet down, gashed a guy. He probably had to get fucking staples in his head. He's out, you know, leaving a game. I've just seen more behavior. Look, I know New York's giant. There's a ziggins of people there. But the collective amount of asshole behavior like by this fan base or person, you know, ostensibly this fan base. I was brutal and I don't clean it the fuck out yet. Hop behind everybody. Something that when be going into the head. I agree. It's like, remember, we saw the video of the guy getting suckered in the subway. The guy with the Rangers jersey on sucker and some other fan. It's just, they're at a different level and like, yeah, it's like funny when you crowd the streets and they got people wrapping and whatever doing like silly stuff. But when you're trying to light people's hair on fire and you're ripping their clothes off and suckering on my, it's just like, what is this? It's 25 years of living with zero fucking consequences. That's what I think a lot has to do with. Is I know he's not like a fucking grandpa. No, no, I don't. It's just, it's just barbaric sometimes. I mean, these people, they had to hang out. Again, your team won't. I mean, if they do it out of anger, it's not excusable. It's still fucking vile. But I don't. Mixed fans clean up the hell off. And the next team from what I've seen there, they're kind of a likable team. Very likable. Yeah. Yeah, but fans. Yeah. It's crazy. Memes has a great take. The next of the Toronto Maple Leafs is the NBA. And he believes they're going to blow this three to one lead. Oh, yeah. Oh, it's like, it's like the kind of hard. I don't even, I know in the NBA, there's never been a three old comeback. Is there even been a three one? I think once. I think it didn't, it didn't even go to Golden State. Yeah. The little LeBron block. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, really. Yeah. That's because what's his name? Got suspended. If you had his first jersey on and they somehow blow this series, like, there could be like a murder on our hands. I'm not joking either. It's the only city I've gone to where like, like friends who live in that city told me, whatever you do, don't wear any, like it was the Red Sox game 7 verse. The Yankees, you know, for example, he's like, do not have any, like Boston stuff on it all. I was going to gain by myself as well. I did have socks on, but you couldn't see it. Be home on my ankle. But that's literally the only city I've been warned to not wear, to not wear gear. And so, yeah, full-wish behavior. Classic recommendation this week in honor of Steven Spielberg returns to the screen with sci-fi. Go watch Minority Report from 2002, Tom Cruise, Colin Farrell, awesome movie. It's a bite-based. He's sat in the future about police who sort of predict crimes and, you know, how the problems that can come from it. It's an awesome futuristic thriller. Can't recommend it up. Give that a look. See, I'm going to see what's it? Distribution Day, disturbance day. I'm going to tonight. I'll disclose it. And we got some good shit coming up here on Netflix. All right. I sat at a song sung blue. It's with Hugh Jackman in Kate Hudson. She was nominated for Best Supporting Actress this year. It's based on a true story about a guy who had, he was like a Neil Diamond cover being guy. And, you know, he meets Kate Hudson. And it's honestly, I walked out like, like, I didn't felt so much emotion at the end of a while. It is based on a true story, tremendous acting. I feel like Neil Diamond, you'll 1,000 percent love this movie. Even if you don't, it just got a great human element, human story at a top. So that's going to be hit in Netflix Saturday. Definitely give that a whirl. That Raffa documentary about Raffa on the dial. I haven't watched it. That's on my list for this weekend. It's a full rep. It showed docu-series. Looks phenomenal about one of the greatest tennis players of all time. And also, if you haven't seen Blackberry, come out a couple of years ago. Sorry, now my pal, Jay Barrichelle and Glenn Howatton, you would think a movie about the invention of, you know, basically the first smartphone, the Blackberry. It sounds boring. It's awesome. Dynamite Flip, they made it up in Canada. One of bunch of awards up there. Barrichelle, he plays kind of like goofy character. He locked in on this one. Played a great dramatic role. I feel looking for some things to watch. Give those world is the scene in the movie of that guy exploding on the board of governors and Gary Batman. Is that like, did that happen? I don't know. I took liberties with that or not. It's a great movie. Yeah. Oh, you saw, you saw, yeah, it is good. Again, for the topic sounds boring, but the movie is anything but I give that a whirl. And also the World Cup started well yesterday Thursday here in the States and Scotland. They're playing their local games here in Fox Pro. I saw a bunch of kilts after I left you guys Tuesday night. So a million at the airport today. They were getting tossed, they were getting tossed out of buzz already before the thing even started. And another guy, one of the suburbs he posted a clip, I guess they rented a house across the street. They're out six, three, four, and I'm playing the bagpipes in the kilts and stuff like. So it is a great story to out in Lawrenceville, Kansas. Now, you know, this has them in a traditional World Cup. Not every team is playing staying in the country. Some countries have to play the game and then go back to the country to stay in. But in Lawrenceville, Kansas, team Algeria is there. And Lawrenceville, Kansas has embraced this team with open arms. They've sort of adopted them. There's a lot of great clips online guys like, I don't even know where this place is on a map, but I'm going to be back on these people. They've been having all kinds of stuff with the community. And I think it's great. It's showing what, you know, what our country is about and how good a host we can be. And so shout out to Lawrenceville, Kansas, so what they've been doing with team Algeria. It's been a great little story. And yeah, I'm looking forward to watching a lot of footies in the next couple. Canada plays today. 3 p.m. I believe actually way was that a hurricane. They were at game five. Halan. Yeah, Halan was there. Yeah, he was there. He had a king's jersey on. I knew that. And I bet you they were like, this is fucking sick. I mean the crowd for that game was what a first game to go to for those guys. But I'm very excited. I love the World Cup. I love it. And now every day from month, we have two games on. Yeah, so great. Yeah, U.S. I paraguade tonight and that Scotland's playing Haiti downflarge. I don't get why every U.S. games on the West Coast. It's kind of surprising to me that there's no East Coast. They play in L.A. Seattle and San Francisco. So they don't ever come east. You got to think TV might have something to do with it. I don't usually choose. He runs the show on that stuff. But either way, I'll be too. And it should be good stuff. Anything else. Is when you are out of my fine city here, taking off tomorrow? I leave tomorrow, boys. It's been a hell of a season. I know we got a couple games left here. And then the draft and free agency. But oh my God, the hockey's been incredible. They're making the boys on the ice are making our job easy. And it was great to hang out with you boys. I love doing this podcast from the guys on the show. From like me, Ian's Whitton in R.A. and Merr and Armdog and G as well. Like we got to thank all the people behind the scenes for making this thing run. So fishy. All the boys, Luki, aka Niki. Bernadette. Bernadette had his first full year with us. He's been such a huge hell. Pasha, obviously, who helps from the barriers. And then and then big man, yeah, Josh. So, so shout out to the boys. The answer right now because he hates when I give everybody. Oh man. Oh my God. Oh my God. He's the worst. The worst. The worst. The worst one. Rest up in a full on white master's caddy, babe. I don't even know if he touched the flex. He's saying he was. He was officially the cart girl, like the drink cart girl. No, he was as a caddy girl. The whole round. I actually went golfing with memes one time and we played McCormick Ranch in Scottsdale. Oh wow. And he showed up in in cowboy boots. And the guy came up to me and was like, hey man, he had like a cowboy boots cowboy hat on wife, beater. And they were like, hey, just got to shoot you straight. You got to buy gear for this guy. If you want to bring him on. So we had to buy him new shoes, shirts, shorts, the whole year. They love them down the club the other day with me, me girls. on. Yeah, show the infamous club, but they love them. They were trying to get in the state, but we had to drag them back to work. So what a crew we got boys. I love you. It's gonna be another great bagger. And we just had this one drop. We have the, the Bob does one probably coming out in the what the next two, three weeks as well, because we're gonna have to get those two off our our chest as well. So love you boys. Great pod and, uh, mag god, canes have a chance to close out on Sunday. We'll be in the building this 20 years later. Rod the bod is captain. Rod the bod is coach. What a story. Vegas. No quit there, though. Thank you, everyone. We will see you Monday morning, 11 a.m. Live. I don't know. It's gonna happen. It's gonna happen again. Hey, chicken, fans, we're gonna take a quick break for a message from one of our partners. Hey, Alabama, still blue coffees, new canned lattes are here and in a store near you, crafted with 100% Colombian coffee. Each can is a good source of protein and comes in two smooth flavors, espresso, cafe mocha and espresso, sweet cream, whether you're braving your morning commute or chasing your pup, still blue cans are for those always on the go and for those who care. Still blue is more than just great coffee. It's about giving back. I named the brand after my rescue dog Stella who inspired our mission to help more dogs find their forever homes. Every purchase supports animal rescue organizations. So when you drink Stella blue, you're not just fueling your day. You're saving a dog's life. Try the new cans today. 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