Spittin’ Chiclets Episode 652

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You can't even get a fucking shot on goal. And now it's tied up. But we could be head. Towards a masterpiece of a final. But who who now also quickly. Sorry, I put out on Twitter. I said, did we just witness the greatest games one and two of a Stanley Cup final? And I got to admit a little embarrassed last year. If you remember last year, Edmonton's down three one game one. They end up winning. And then Marshawn scores after Perry ties it up. Make it about the Oilers. So we had a little recency bias. But but. By the way, the last two years, games one and two Hawks on a heater is go ahead. Sorry. Oh, don't be sorry at all, buddy. I mean, like, look, look at the viewership. I mean, it's the fact that it's doing this again. And like we talk about Carolina, maybe sometimes being a low scoring team. Well, all of a sudden they got eight goals through the first two games. So it's high flying offense. We got the flip plays on both sides of the ice going down. Carolina's fucking power play. The dog shit power play finally came alive. And like you said, what? I'm just happy that we're watching amazing hockey right now. There was a little bit of there was a little bit of nonsense online. Like, oh, who's going to be watching this final Carolina versus Vegas? Who cares? Who cares? You got some of the best storylines in the NHL going right now. You got Mitch Marner going for a con smite and a Stanley Cup. His first year removed from being a Toronto Maple Leaf. And we got a and he's itchy for Mitchie. You know, who's not itchy right now? Who's got the better drone? A system bloody is bloody. Who's now went dead silent. On the group chat. Him going silent is so Bush League like own it. But bloody just come out and say we're on the game three. But you can't go silent. And I know he's watching. I'm looking at you. You redheaded blood man. I love you to death. But you need to say something. Wow. I mean, speak. Well, he speaks all the time when my team loses. I know. But to his defense. So there was two days in a row where there was no hockey talk on wake up barstool. Is that really true? That's that's true. And bloody went off on it and now money is going to be on it tomorrow morning and I'm actually waking up at 5:00 AM here to go on tomorrow, but let's get talking about game two before we go back to game one, obviously, a few pivotal moments in this game that ended up getting Carolina back in it McNabb taking a puck to the face boys that is a significant significant loss for the Vegas Golden Knights will not only did last game did he have three apples? This is one of the NHL. Premier shot blockers. This is an original misfit. This is a guy who does not allow you to get to the house area in front of his own goalie where maybe staying coven coming on that wraparound. I don't know if he gets to where he got to if he's the net front guy there. So he helps out their penalty kill drastically in which he wasn't around for were finally the levy broke for Vegas where they allowed to power play goals one of the third and one in overtime. So that is a significant loss. So all of a sudden they weren't playing. How do I pronounce his last name? Coughlin Coughlin Coughlin Coughlin? Excuse me. He wasn't playing a lot when when McNabb went down. So basically you're down to 4D and then yeah, as you kind of mentioned, it looked like Hannifin was fighting it a little bit. Maybe he's battling injury as well. If that's the case, all of a sudden little bit of depletion on this unbelievable Vegas back end, which as I said before, it's going to be a lot of fun. It's going to be a lot of fun, but it's going to be a lot of fun. It's going to be a lot of fun. The Levy broke a little bit like they were able to come back in this game. I believe because of those reasons and the fact that they were a little limited on the back end. Yeah, especially the way that Carolina plays like to have 4D. You can't survive it. Like never mind going into an overtime game when I think Noah it was Noah was playing getting double shifted. He was out there for like two minutes before they scored and then he's right back out there. So there's no time to rest for these guys. It's tough tough break for Minnesota. McNabb you hate seeing that especially with that dentist in Carolina that told me that I was going to have to go behind the shed when I lost all my teeth. But yeah, honestly that's a game though. No, no, I ended up coming back. I actually I'll be shocked if that guy's not in game three. Oh, he's playing that guy seems like the biggest warrior ever full cage on let's not forget. I mean the fact he stood up and you see a guy that tough he skates right to the door in the corner. I'm like, oh no. And then Emily Kaplan said he wasn't even in the building anymore. I don't think so. That's the only wary if the jaws completely fractured. Maybe you can't but if anyone can it's that animal and and just the fact that he was able to get up from that. I was shocked but right away right away. I said this is going to change things way more than people think I think all no offense to the layman hockey fan or but it's like oh, you know a big shot block a defensive. But I watch Vegas enough. No, this guy just eats minutes and I was the one who texted biz Lozon. I think maybe you know McNabb's bigger. He might get over there a little bit quicker on the stank first one. Now who knows if he's out there and I know it's kind of armchair quarterback and whatever this body that you could tell something there. There was a glitch in the force as that game went on and they were basically playing 40 like even 5D against that Carolina. Team you're having to switch pairings all the time. Yeah, it's like you're not used to the guy. Yeah, no, you're not used to the tendencies that where the guy is going to be when you know, he's going to move if you're playing with a different guy, especially every other shift. It's brutal and on that like the way Carter Hart was kicking you knew it was going to have to be something fluky that went in like the stank oven goal looked like it banked off someone then hit his knob and went in and then you know how it is as a goal scorer. You see one go in. Then your whole team gets going then the crowds into it and you knew something was going to happen and man that last 10 minutes of hockey was legitimately crack hockey as you say Woody. So let you want to rewind it and talk about how didn't before we get to the Barbashev play or should we go right to the Barbashev goalie interference slash Messier one to kill Dave Jackson on live television and mess also mess was I don't even know if mess knew what planet he was on. He's like what are you talking about? And he's like and oh, let's go. Let's go chronologically though and start at the beginning when we get there. We could discuss that because to not show it all. brad howden and i after the second one i said i think he just won the con smith r.a tweeted out i'm sure it's already coming on later you're gonna have a little bit we'll get we'll get the takes and this is r.a's time by the way this is when r.a usually wakes up from a nap like no he'll wake up right before the game so this is peak hours like we're exhausted output he had to have an early dinner he's not the only thing though you might get a grumpy r.a because this is his prime movie time consumption this is where he has the godfather part two lined up for the four thousand time usually at midnight but he actually said on on tuesday's show a monday show excuse me mixing a howden con smith bet he was a hundred to one i think he said he said after the second goal he was two to one he goes i think his tweets have never seen odds change like that he was a hundred to one and it was two to one after making yeah he's two to one right now two to one so he said if he scores four or five goals in the finals like and r.a showed a couple clicks he set the record for vegas gold knights away goals in a playoff run he's got 10 on the road right now yeah he's also the seventh player in nhl history to surpass his regular season goal total in the ensuing postseason scored more goals in the postseason than the right yeah but that's not hard because there's probably guys in there who scored like four like four in the regular in the regular it's the only one with 12 minimum 10 goals it's a minimum 10 goals okay okay all right okay i thought i read he was the only one with 12 or more goals to get more in the playoffs i either way what we're witnessing these aren't like some these aren't like shit goals either the whole body they're under unreal individual efforts the most shocking time the most shocking thing about that stat is that he didn't have 40 goals this year like he looks like a guy that's getting 40 every year the way he's playing i do not understand how he only had now the first one guys i got a screenshot that came across the wire he's holding he did he rip walker's stick out of his hand yeah he he gave her the he gave her the heisman and maybe got a piece of it but fucking playoff how many times a game does that happen yeah where you're actually holding the guy's stick okay but the second one okay fans were bullshitting on both the second one you grab a guy's stick driving that like that that's hockey that's a power forward you're gonna get your hand into that defender stick who by the way that was jacob slavin on the second one and then he tucks it around anderson and and on the first one though when you're not driving the net you're middle of the ice and you just kind of grab it and you're holding it but he was sneaky with it it was it was it was sly it was smooth it was smart triple s shout out me and i i was i was like this kid i i don't get how he was i didn't even know he was drafted by tampa and then the rangers had him then they traded him i'm like master class so so i don't know if you guys saw the mic'd up on the bench where torts at the beginning of the game he was like too much east west he's like let's get it going north let's get it going north and they were mentioning how much howden and marnderson's playing together they like that given the fact that they're playing together and they're playing together and they're playing and where marner got it he knows exactly where howden's going he's forcing it down ice they said they like to play up with their pressure so their d-man are always man on man so if all of a sudden you can just start bolting you might get that quick stride on them so you create that one-on-one marner i don't know if there's a better guy in the league at doing those like flip flobbles in the in the neutral zone those lob passes that thing sat perfectly like it hit the gap and just died where he put it with a little bit of english on it so create that one-on-one and then you're like i don't know if there's a better guy in the league credit him with that beautiful apple and once again howden individual effort just like the second goal where yans i think it was you texted a group chat like that the seas parted slavin was taking a nap back door on on the wide side there what the fuck's he doing yeah i'm not sure he had a couple plays and i don't know i mean obviously everyone's banged up right now but he doesn't look exactly himself through two games of this series which when if he's not at his best they have zero chance of winning this this series but yeah i don't know something seemed a little off even the one that got called back on barbershop he was like swimming around like i don't i don't know what he was doing there but uh yeah man howden is the sneaky sneaky player and it's just one of those guys and we've talked about it like guys like like a guy like barbershop it's like who cares what he does during the regular season he's going to show up when the games matter and he's putting the team on his back but barbershop is more of a meat easy i get him like you know going through maybe hot hot spells cold droughts whatever it may be through the regular season howden's so fast that you're right like yeah he's a 30 goal guy in the nhl and my i see him right now i'm like all right yeah standard 25 30 goal boys he's playing with mitch marner i know but he's playing with marts but biz here's a great point you just made about the pressure with carolina a d is always pinching down the wall constantly they'll go there'll be pucks around the you'll see teams the forward goes to get it forwards don't even attempt it knowing the d's coming down other teams fan bases that have played them i think they've been screaming send a guy send a guy and obviously vegas has kind of figured this out and boom howden's gone and that was the exact way to beat their pressure that first goal it was like just high flip create a one-on-one battle and you never know what happens i'll grab a guy's stick the ref won't see it i'll get a breakaway and i'll get my 12th that was just that tied his regular season total little did we know we'd get another one so i mean so basically 50 minutes through this game i was having the same feelings as you guys i'm like this is going to be a sweep of a series kane's power play was shit um yeah they they started out great in both games like i thought this game they started out great yeah they had the shot volume going i think vegas might have had what two shots in the first period they had nothing really going towards the net other than that grade a that howden created and then all of a sudden second period and then halfway through the third you're like they got the anaconda chokehold they got nothing going but finally that second line that we've seen come to life so many times throughout this playoff run stankhoven rounds that net and gets that lucky bounce and then boom it really felt at that point the whole game shifted right there big time now the question is and you anderson on the bench after the stankhoven he was not happy why not go strong side and i don't blame him because he they win the draw it's exactly what you need and i would love to know like that's when you do anything for full mic'd up uh ability or you know well i can read lips what do you need to know i want to know why anderson didn't put it up the wall after he wheeled the net he was obviously saying something like i didn't see somebody no what he said to him he says you want a fucking contract extension with the vegas gold knight you put it up the wall after he wheeled the net you put that up the strong fucking side or i'll pinky in the brain down here trading your ass in no time motherfucker weak side weak side weak side he went back to the strong side well sorry but yeah but he was holding the puck and he skated to to now what was the strong side right like like make the play up the strong side he's on he brought the puck to the strong side now go he's now the him turning back is going back towards the weak side now no but does that have anything to do with them being depleted on the back end and his oxygen in his brain like you say is just shut off and yeah like when you're playing more minutes and playing harder minutes like playing that much and getting out there every other shift against that team is a nightmare yeah but after stankoven with just an incredible effort as army said right in the chat it's a whl effort i think he considered the michigan oh 100 i think he was gonna do the michigan and then he couldn't really settle him and i was like oh my god and then he did it was a little bit of a lucky bounce but even attempting the michigan there i'm like what fucking league am i i played in this league i didn't play in this league i think sfetch did it against montreal in the in the in the third round right he tried it too he had a lot more success at getting it up and almost trying it but do we can we show like a screenshot of him trying that in in this game tonight it's kind of it might it might just be like video you have it's like a one second clip which we can't show all right of him it just looks like he's trying to pick it up but just amazing and then and then biz the high flip on the other end the flip creates flip fits that's that's the new saying these these high flips create fits think of pittsburgh when pittsburgh was winning their cups like that's all they did they did that over and over florida does that a ton with ekblad's really good at it uh meekle is really good at like these guys especially against carolina when they're coming down when you're trying to go out if you can high flip it and beat guys to races and wit you know how it is as a d-man if you're backpedaling the puck's coming up it's a panic a guy's usually coming at you 100 miles an hour you're backing up trying to find it the lighting's different it's a nightmare of a play and obviously you have to be good at it because if you're going to be icing the puck all the time you're going to hurt yourself but if you can do that put it in a good spot in the neutral zone somewhere you're going to get opportunities huge huge huge conversion by jankowski going top titty there on heart all of a sudden it's a tie game now we got to get to mess first jackson rough and rowdy i think that vegas got hosed here you tended to disagree with me on the group chat have you changed your mind with then i saw and i don't know how i didn't see okay throughout the throughout the replay being shown i was kind of busy on the internet i'm tweeting and i'm i'm like this is the dumbest challenge of all time i'm like but that's the boochie tweet that's the picture that it was never frozen for one second like it was still live basically in this area here and when barbashev made contact there was no sign of him freezing it there and they didn't call it they didn't call it a no goal they called it the interference and that's why mess was pissed off like if that's free and loose and you can see it you're allowed to poke at that thing yes there was no no interference there whatsoever i think this is a botched call so you're saying that and now i'm on your side so i'm saying the same thing that goes to the league that goes up top how do they how do they get there that one wrong because i think what do you think they're saying it i think it goes back to the referee on the ice who when he lost contact of it okay it's in it so keep in mind look at how he is right now the ref can't see that puck which is fair to him okay bring that picture back up please so when when barbashev comes around the net he tries to stuff it and the puck still moving around like at no point was it frozen and it wasn't like it was like it was in the net there for a long time either it came back out and then he hits it again and then it goes to that area and as it's loose he pokes at it it's all happening in one motion so for them to say to him to say okay he lost contact of it and therefore even if the whistle wasn't blown at that time his intent was to blow it not in the right position it's a clear blown too early there's no goalie interference whatsoever but he thinks because it is frozen and that his stick goes underneath and pokes at it that that is the goalie interference but i guess the the people up top in toronto can't change that ref's opinion on the fact that he wanted it blown when he wanted it blown and that was communicated therefore they can't overturn it but i believe that vegas got hosed and that should have been the go-ahead goal three two at that point in time yeah i agree with you it's a ballsy review it's a ballsy challenge because only reason they challenge that is because of how bad carolina's pp has been and they're like ah fuck it it's a free challenge and then boom they wake up so i agree so that so that's the other thing too i can't blame torts for that challenge if i would have seen the angles that that were playing on the tv of like when barbachev and keep in mind he's making hockey plays and that puck is never in there for like any type of extended period of time he whacks out to try to score it pops back out he whacks out again it's sitting there he gets it and it's in the net there's never any type of dead time so torts is like okay well they're gonna go upstairs and use their common sense and this is gonna come back a goal so and like you guys said the fact that the pp's been dog shit i don't know if that's in the back of his mind as to why he wants to be aggressive about calling that has to be more like i'm more like that moment you think you think that that has to be has to be i'm not gonna do it i'm gonna do it edmonton's power play you're not challenging that yeah no chance do you go towards post game towards post game i challenge you at 10 out of 10 times and i agree and and i kind of disagree with you that i don't think that the the carolina's power play being dog shit mattered i think that he watched that and all the people on their side were common sensing it like that's a fucking goal and it should have been okay but let me ask you this no matter what's going on with goaltender interference once the ref decides to blow the whistle and we all know that if he doesn't even blow the whistle before it goes in just the fact of him attempting to that's a whistle blown right so wouldn't it have never come back anyways because he blew the whistle do you understand what i'm saying like that yes i agree with because usually the ref will come over and tell you why they're they're calling it no goal dead it's over yeah i blew it dead or if i'm wondering if he told him the reason why it's no goal it's because it's goaltender interference then he has even more of a right to even want to challenge it because he's looking at this photo freddie anderson was swimming that entire sequence of play like he came out quick fell back he's great first save great first one on the wraparound yeah yeah so you're saying if the ref i i don't i don't remember this in real time you're saying there's a chance the ref goes over and saying the reason we're calling it not a goal is because a goalie in interference and then they watch that and they're like there's no goalie interference there so let's challenge it and then in fact it was more about when he wanted to blow it that played a factor that's why i thought it was never coming back at least because i'm like oh he blew it dead he blew it dead no matter what so that's why i was like why is there a challenge the play's dead so i'm i'd love to know if if gee keep watching the um post why we need refs we need refs doing pressers after the portarello's full quote there is i saw a lot of people who were saying that they were uh portarello on what made him challenge i saw a loose puck in front of freddie our player stabbed at it didn't move the goalie and it goes through and went to the other side i challenged that 10 out of 10 times that's the way i saw it boys and if and if it kind of it kind of goes back to to when uh oilers got their season hosed with well they didn't get hosed it was over the line but how the ref in the corner was like uh uh uh and then his initial call was a goal so that initial call probably was a reason why even though you couldn't see the puck across the goal line as to why they ended up calling it a goal right yeah 100 uh throw the throw the still up there again because i just want to mention something if you can fishy or g whoever's doing it all right maybe this is impossible because barbershop had just come around the post on the bottom of the screen for the wraparound i think though most elite refs are already standing on the back there that's that's that's tight that's if you can get there that's why because because he had just wrapped it around but but if if you if you could widen out that picture which i know we can't he's further away from the net than he should be maybe he couldn't have got on top when they're looking over over the crossbar but he if you watch he's not like right it was also a broken play because slavin fucking ate shit right yeah well no matter what the fact is that i i we we on the group chat it's been this power play they're not gonna win the stanley cup like you can't win the cup without that was my main reason and all of a sudden and i didn't even know this aspect talk about not paying attention so stall just goes out for the face off and then after if it clears he's off yeah he stays out there because they had possession and he what a beautiful tip enough to the point where when they took him off before the ot winner i'm like how the fuck is he coming off at this point you gotta leave him out there he already got the lead with one of these things but once again i was wrong because they got it done anyways but man what an incredible play to get body position and just a straight up caveman celebration kind of little running man on the feet places going bananas and i'm like they're gonna fucking do this and wait if that if if it's in the second period or uh yeah just in the second period he'll still change but because it's the far change and he's in front of the net even if they have possession sometimes he'll go off while they have possession okay you're saying because it was such a far way to the bench that he didn't go it's like might as well stay in on it right yeah 100 like his job is net front he's obviously he did what he does and uh yeah unbelievable tip and did you see goss's bear too his celebration going in he knew he tipped it was amazing so he's been awesome like he had to he had to be their theodore this series as far as providing that awesome offense walking the line dipping and diving making plays their power play was shit because they kept looking for the perfect play the perfect play the perfect play going through seams yeah they've they've they've thread the needle a few times but he just finds a lane and he fucking just zips it through a sifter it ends up getting tipped by stall that's what you need and all of a sudden after that then things started opening up a little bit more especially as they got that next power play so to me simplification especially if you're carolina with how good vegas's penalty kill has been all playoffs i think they have fucking just as many goals scored on their pk as they have allowed on other teams power play so maybe maybe maybe now they're minus one considering the goal today or the two today excuse me but just a remarkable execution at a time well needed but if there's one thing we know the cardiac kids the comeback kids whatever the fuck you want to call them from the regular season to the playoffs they're not going to be able to do that they're not going to they don't die and they will score like you saw against utah six on five if they have to they are never dead and they are never out of it what a fucking goal what a play by marner to get it through and a huge huge goal in front of the net you guys have it they look more confident when they're down a goal like there's zero panic to their game they're not forcing dumps like you can tell when a team gets nervous when they're up a goal and fighting and trying to score they are just so calm like they're just holding on to it they're just so calm like they're just holding on to it IQ is so high he's in a spot where he knows like he feels that puck maybe hit him in the ass and just turns around wax it in and boom gets you a huge goal so I it's remarkable how confident they look when they're down to goals like if you're up a goal against them or two you can never be comfortable and that's a tough way to play so where was it you who mentioned it in the chat or maybe it was Yan so at that point in time on the face off they were uh shorthand they were still killing they were still killing so six on four so I think they had it was stone on the wall against Chatfield yeah so even though they win that draw the reason they can't get the clear is stones all over them so Chatfield tries to pound it around the weak side and I think it only gets to Blake like just past the goal line on the other side and boom it's alive you weren't happy with with the way that Jackson Blake played Marner on it yeah but I'm like really nitpicking but if you walk watch Blake comes flying out of the zone as Marner's like bringing it up to the top of the circle at that point all right so it's six on four you're making it six on five I think you're just running at him like you could you could body him you could get your stick there what he does is he kind of peels off and if you watch when the goal is scored he's kind of standing in no man's land covering air like I want I'm I'm more curious if Brindamore saying in video tomorrow like hey here just run at him at this point because nobody's around them you know with the patience of Marner like he's gonna find a lane the other crazy part of that is when we all played maybe Keith towards the end of your career you noticed obviously it changed it was like you never really left a forward behind you alone it was about tying them up and now you're fronting guys okay well you're fronting it especially knowing Marner's at the top he doesn't have the big bomb he just sips them through so I know but you have to get it and when you don't get it all of a sudden Stone's behind you now Anderson makes the save it of course it bounces off of of Stone's leg and then at some point was it said that Slavin tipped that it looks more like when Stone whacked at it I think that they said there was a different angle on Sportsnet where it clearly shows that Stone gets it but Slavin and Stone's stick meet basically at the exact same time and then that's where it just squeaks through Anderson but I don't know if it's a good idea to do that but I think it's a good idea I I feel like Stone got a pretty good piece of that and that's where that guy with that stride makes his money is net front and uh I think if you added up all the goals that he scored he still wouldn't hit center ice as far as this playoff so the crazy part was I felt bad for Jackson Blake because I once we had him on I like him a lot good kid hell of a player can't believe he makes five million bucks for the next fucking eight years but I don't know what he was thinking when he when he stuck his hip out on Barbashev just a really unnecessary play there and he sold it no doubt I mean he didn't just sell it he was laying down like he was injured but just no need right like he's kind of on like the back pressure back check and he and like I don't really blame like you're just trying to make a little you're just trying to put that puck in the neutral zone and get fresh bodies on like he doesn't need that extra time and space to make that play and essentially that's kind of the the breakdown like they get the penalty kill quote-unquote but it's on that sequence of the guy coming out of the box your reads are a little bit different not having your your full six on five structure and ultimately it leads to the tying goal but I I had a bad feeling for Carolina going into that overtime boys so did I but the first shift I think it was Stankov flying flying in and he almost got it and I was like oh okay okay okay like they are no surprise like that's how they start games too but they're they're coming right now and they get they get it they draw a penalty pretty quick I have no complaints I would hope nobody has any complaints a trip and hurdle doesn't get the puck out it was him who didn't get it out right yeah because unfortunately the view of the of the you know the tv you couldn't really see what's going on on the wall and all of a sudden you hear the crowd go nuts and then the whistle blows with the arm raise I'm like I want to see this because even rooting for Carolina I'm like this better be a legit penalty and you have to call that one you gotta call the legs opener that that's what torts is when they had him mic'd up and he's saying we gotta go north we gotta go north stop bringing it back like that play right there you're definitely seeing that in video hurdle's gonna have a sit down with torts tomorrow be like hey dude you gotta just punt this out at least into the neutral zone especially in in overtime um it's one of those plays that you can't like five feet inside the each blue line has to get in or has to get out so that one he'll be kicking himself for that I feel bad for him because hurdle's such a likable guy but yeah it's one of those things you don't get it out something bad happens and then boom you're the series is tied one one pretty crazy stat uh vegas as far as their two nothing blown lead uh in the third period g just posted it with I don't know if you can read that bad yeah I can read this so there's two parts to this stat now I'll read the first one that that they mentioned on the broadcast as they signed off it's the first stanley cup final in a hundred like ever 108 years where a team has come back from multiple a multiple goal deficit and won it in games one and two so that's that's wild just to know that vegas is down to nothing early they win game one all of a sudden caroline is dead in the water to nothing game two they end up winning so amazing and in this stat carolina became the first team since the 1944 canadians to win a stanley cup final game after trailing by multiple goals in the final 10 minutes of regulation in 82 years it's been so you're seeing things happen in this series where we all had the feeling it was setting up to be an all-timer and it's happened and biz you mentioned the power play and how keeping it simple got him the got him the first one the stall tip and early in the game their first power play they actually had one great scene pass blake found hall and heart made an awesome save on him but after that they kept kind of trying it while they get the stall tip in goal and then this one no question now what's funny enough when ajo had it if you look spetchnikov beat his man out of the corner oh my god all alone in front slamming his ticket looked like it was gonna be a like if he slid it to him like a tap in empty netter almost but he doesn't give it to him goes up top goss despair fakes it a little bit with a shoulder and jarvis boys he fucking needed it and sean mcdonough was saying yeah the the big guys have been called out a little bit and if one of them gets it here like everything shuts up all the noise goes away and it happened biz it happened and the last game go ahead yans no i was just gonna say the breakdown of that the pk sequence it was wild bill and eichel they got they they were covering the same exact spot in the middle of the ice when goss is very busy you were talking about him earlier the way he can walk the walk the middle of the ice and get guys out of their position both eichel and wild bill were standing right in front of each other no one on on jarvis and they just slide it over to him so you're so are you referencing typically the the high forward on the strong side who's killing the penalty if he's with goss despair and goss despair start starts walking the line in some cases when they get to mid ice they hand it off to the other winger to the other side whereas some teams they'll say just stay with that guy you roll up top and then that weak side forward will now come underneath and below him and then he'll take down the other side once goss despair goes by but going back to jarvis like he had a grade a last game that he flubbed on he got he barely got any wood on it he probably should have put that one in the back of the net and then he basically had an identical shot on that that power play last game where he completely whiffed on it and kind of like lost his balance and fell over when it was kind of pretty much right in his wheelhouse as you saw today so for him to to to get to redeem himself and also get the power play last game the big boys going as well as like that third period boys 50 minutes in you're thinking where the fuck is the stankoven line where the fuck is the the aho line like really you go back to game one it was it was it was the third line stall ehlers and martinuk who were getting it done they had three of the four goals so for them to to get those two lines going with those two huge bounces now going back to vegas with potentially them down mcnab and a complete shift in the series now it's starting to look like six or seven games we're 50 minutes in we were bringing out the fucking broomsticks and thinking about the complete restructure and maybe where tolski was going to be gm in next year no i was like this team is a joke i can't believe this this is exactly what happens when they play a legitimate big boy hockey club contender and they're getting worked again even though they i mean they were they worked in game one no but i'm just at that point i'm like oh my god i'm gonna be like oh my god i'm gonna be like oh in the second period i was so mad i saw one of the well the shot attempts are 50 to 12 but i don't fucking care about the shot attempts don't but they turned it on they got it done and we just got to witness an all-timer it was um and it goes that's the way they play like they wear you down and you're gonna have guys out like it's a seven game series and like they they're built to wear you down over a seven game series yeah they've done it an easy work the first three series but when you're down to mcnab your guys are going to be more injured every guy's getting hit every shift like by game three by game four by game five you're going to be the biggest guys are limping around yeah um i'm just i'm just thinking is that when we bring up these insane two games and then last year's insane first two games where last year both teams won in five in the conference finals, maybe it's like these teams are pretty fresh. Like that's why the hockey's so good is because they've, it has, I mean, obviously Vegas has played more games, but they haven't really been through that much. So they just have so much left to give in the tank for the final. Now it turned up. Now let's, I'm interested to see how this momentum shift, like this is the first time in a minute here that Vegas has faced adversity. Like, hey, listen, yes, they were down in the Utah series. I believe they were down early in the Anaheim series as well, right? Were they ever down in that series? But against Utah, they were, I think they were going to be down 3-2 in the series when they ended up pulling their goalie and then pulling a rabbit out of their ass and stealing game five from Utah and then closing it out in six, right? So, or maybe it was game four, but either one, either way, they rolled off three in a row in that first round series, but they were set to have their eighth straight win if they wouldn't have choked that one away. But all of a sudden now, first loss in eight games, you're down a D man, you're going back home. You got to feel good about yourself and the fact that you split those two and now you get home ice advantage and you're going back and you get plenty in the building game four. If McNabb is back and I'm Vegas, I feel great. They're going to feel great either way. They have home ice advantage. They got the split. But if he's out, it's like that, that's a lot. That's a lot to deal with because he's so important to them. And, and even if he's playing, man, if you're wearing a full cage, it's, it's a little bit different handling the puck. Like you just had a, a pretty, you know, a pretty, what do you say? Like a shocking thing happened to you. Sometimes it fucks a little bit with your psyche and your anticipation and your reads and maybe things are off a split second. So if he's able to come back and play like he was before, despite that injury, well, one, I already have so much respect for him because he's fucking nails Stanley cup winner, leads the league in block shots, or at least top 10 guys every year over year. If he can get back to doing what he was doing before, it's all gravy. If all of a sudden they're down to Lausanne and, and, and, and, and I always fuck up that guy's name. Well, and they have that Corsac who could go in, right? He just came back from injury, right? And he was, like a week ago, he had the practice Jersey on like the non-contact, but I believe that he's slowly coming to clearance. Okay. So I thought he was ready to go. He could have been. I remember last week before the series started, he, he came out and he had the red one on, but he was skating with the team. Do you guys think that they, they all fly or at least Vegas tonight, or do you think the new age style science, they stay overnight, they get a good meal, they get a proper rest. They get a proper rest on that time zone and then they fly back tomorrow. Okay. Well, traumatic was the word you were looking for. Thank you. I was looking for the word traumatic. You're right. God damn it. Keith shouted him out. So we, you know, we have that madness we just discussed and we haven't even spoken since game one. Now you mentioned, so 4.5 million people, that's a big number, right? Like what are we talking? We talking a rank. Do we have a rank there? Like what is, what is the past? I don't know, but, but hockey is doing so incredibly well right now. You have, I mean, you had heated rivalry. Now you have this on off campus show, another smut TV show. That's knocking off the hockey world. My, my culture is not your costume. It's up 54% from last year in 14% from 2022. And it's the highest rated Stanley cup final game since 2019. It's unbelievable. That is fuck that, which was probably game seven. All four. All people were doing. We're complaining about all Carolina. Carolina is not going to draw Carol. Shut the fuck up, man. Hockey's on a heater, baby. This might be one of the bigger signs that hockey actually is like not going anywhere because I, I was excited for the series, but I really did think that it would not do big numbers. The fact that that game one, and it wasn't a Saturday night, like that's I'm feeling pretty. I, I, if this is good about hockey right now, if this keeps going to, and this is a close series, like it's just going to keep getting better and better. I mean, and the fact that you don't have to compete with the NBA and they're doing on and off days, that is a big bounce as well. So good for the sport and it's on full display and we have two amazing teams going at it. So shout out to Carolina, not bending over and going down. Oh, two at home. Game one starts. Um, incredible video that ESPN made about Ray Bork. Ray Bork was kind of the main story behind it. They are at his restaurant in the North end Tresca. And then they're throwing in the clips that, that, that song by the killers is that's an all time song. And just how hard it is to win it with the clips and the hits. And it was as well done as you can imagine. And our guy, John Ham doing the narration was what is, what a start off. Uh, they bring the cup out now that's been new in the past few years. I kind of like it. Some people think it's a little corny. No, no, no. This is what you're playing for right here. They bring it out. And Nikolai Ehlers was shot out of a SpaceX rocket flying down the fucking wing snipes one. And I was like, Oh my God, like this is, this is incredible. I haven't seen this is, this is even more nuts than most Carolina hurricane starts. And then he gets another one. And I, at this point I was like, Holy shit. Okay. So not only are they, they're not overmatched, they can play with Vegas. They might run them out of the building and busy. You were smart. Cause after the first one, you texted the group, you go, Hey boys, calm down. They did this game one against Montreal. They lost six too. But then he got the next one. And I think you wrote, okay, okay. We're dealing with something different here. They, they realized don't let up. Don't let up for them. All of a sudden to be down three, two in that game. I, I, that's when I thought I was like, I don't, if I think Vegas might just, be way better than them. I've been all over the map. As you can tell, I can barely talk right now, but when it went three, two Vegas game one, and they ended up getting that win. I, I really was like, I think Carolina is completely fucked. Yeah. And that first, the first goal, like how infuriating for a coach, you seen what Carolina has done the first shift of every game. And you're like, okay, just survive the first shift, survive the first shift. Boom. Ehlers, like you said, shot out of a cannon score. So I, I would imagine, torts was pulling his hair out of his head there, but like we said, like pinched, he got caught and Theodore, how about him turning his game? I think he, he had a goal and two assists after that. Like just new, like they showed him on the bench smirking after he was like, all right, I got to pick up my game and take care of the boys here. And he did, he showed up at goal. He, he scored, um, he scored in the first, right? He scored their first goal to get them going. Like I like when, when guys, if they make a mistake and it's a crucial one, they're able to just, bounce right back. And you don't have your head down, you're not bitching and complaining. He's like, all right, next shift, next shift. And it was like a minute after either scored too. So since we're on that topic where I think you texted to remind us about something that McCrimmon said about Theodore before the series, it even began. Yeah. He was talking about how he just keeps getting better and better and better. And I believe he mentioned like when Petro had to retire, right? With the injuries, he wanted to be, he wanted to become that type player. And I think earlier in his career, no doubt it was, he was a power play specialist, very offensive. And McCrimmon was just mentioning like every single year, the guy's getting better and better. And now he's out there. He's PK. He's playing last minute. Like he's, he's changed his game. He's become a more complete player. The way Pronger talks about guys becoming true number ones enough to the point where I felt so foolish because you mentioned on the, the preview of this series, how they did not have, have a shade Theodore and Carolina. Cause I thought Carolina's D overalls better. And I was like, yeah, they've got this bear offensively, but like your point mainly was, yeah, but this guy does it both ends. And for the GM to be talking about him and then for him to have a game one like that, one and two, the pass, the pass to Houghton, that was so silk. Forget the past, the movie did who, who did he embarrass at the top of the circle? I, I can pull it up. Um, but just incredible, like awareness, all over the ice. And that's why it was surprising to see him make that decision. But I think early on, like the, your mind's racing, the crowds bananas and he gets caught, got caught. And Keith, you mentioned he was kind of smirking like, all right, I fucked up here. Now, now we go. And that was, you're talking about on Theodore's goal in game one. It was on carry a, um, at the top, who was his guy. Yes. Yes. That's who, that's who we kind of avoided, at least got out of the shot lane. And, and listen, like I said that, and it's not to take anything away from Goss, to spare either. Like I have so much respect for his career trajectory and how he was basically pigeon tossed by Philadelphia. He ends up in Arizona. That's where I started watching him where I'm like, fuck this good kids a lot better than like, I thought he was goes over to, to Carolina. Then all of a sudden they let him go. He goes over to Detroit. Now he's back in Carolina. Like this is his series to, to put himself in the Theodore category. Like Theodore was able to win a Stanley cup with the Vegas gold Knights. Yeah. He didn't have to be there. number one 'cause they had Petro around and he kind of Kind of did a lot of the dirty work and things that maybe Theodore didn't have to do then. But, you know, as you've seen Theodore evolve, it's like, ah, you kind of, you know, he's way more of a household name. Well, buddy, if Caroline is able to pull this off and figure things out, guys like Goss Despair, the Stankhovens, the fucking Ajo, the Jarvis's, those guys are going to get the respect that they deserve. That maybe a lot of people right now at this point in time, just like their team, kind of disrespect them a little bit. Like, we still honestly truly believe, though, the three of us, that Vegas is going to win this series. Like, there's no way that even after watching that game, would you say you think that Carolina could win this series and they're going to? I think they can, but I think right now Vegas is an overwhelming, like, favorite. Unless, unless, unless, if McNabb's out there. They're going to win the rest of the series, which I can't imagine Cup Final and that guy. But if he's playing, yeah, it's going to be hard. And my main thing is, OK, so they come back in game one and Stahl gets that goal. By the way, the stat that came out after that. Oh, yeah. The time between playoffs, Stanley Cup. Jordan Stahl set the record for the most elapsed time between Stanley Cup Finals goal by a player. Six thousand two hundred and two days. The previous record holder, Eric Stahl, six thousand one hundred ninety eight. He's like, huh? You're telling me this isn't simulation world. We're not in Sim City. I don't get how that's real. His older brother had the record of six thousand one hundred ninety eight days and then he broke it by four days. Are we fucking serious? Henry Stahl. I don't know if he's still in a sterile or if he's at the farm at Thunder Bay. My sperm. Holy shit. Oh, yeah. Look at what I'm doing. Well, he's got one kid cranking the horn, the siren. He's got the other kids scoring goals with that much time elapsed between Stanley Cup final goals. But back to what you mentioned about Vegas being like probably overall better. I think Hart's better. That was big for him to kind of, you know, like lose a game. Anderson stepped up enormous, right? Like that. Was he great in game one? No. And then two goals in girly game two. But mainly for for Carolina to even come back and tie the game. Game one. It was just all Vegas mistakes. So I'm looking at it. I'm like, it's not like they're they're just dominating play. It's like Vegas would make a mistake if they got a goal, right? Like it wasn't it was Vegas looking at the tape of game one and being like, boys, we won that game and we gave them three goals. Freddie. Freddie is going to have to steal a game. Every time that Carolina has a breakdown and Vegas gets a great day, it usually ends up in the back of the net. There was a few in the third period, though. After. After they ended up, you know, scoring a few goals that he came up with some big ones. We talked about barbershop. Hey, at least good enough to so it didn't get allowed. But there's going to have to be some breakdown instances like you see from heart where he'll make that save and it just completely gets him out of trouble. And you don't even remember the mistake was made like game one. Every time a breakdown in the back of Freddie's net had had. Like it's I don't want to come off as disrespectful. It's not like he was challenged. That much in the first three rounds. Well, he was in some of the games. He was getting 12 shots a game. And the one game that I can remember where he was was Montreal game one of that series where they had a few breakaways in the back of the net. Every time there was a breakdown, it was in the back of the net. So can Freddie can Freddie go beast mode and steal one on the road here where he puts up a performance of his lifetime? I mean, someone said it in the group chat when it was to nothing during the lulls of that game. Do you start bussy next game? Hundred percent. I would have if that game would have ended the way that we saw it through 50 minutes. Okay. Wow. And then but like, I mean, he's got you there. He's I don't know. Well, Anderson's now got to be feeling great because that's what I mean. What was the one? What was the save? I think it was going wide, I believe, but it was a great save either way. The reason I like that one is because he came out, he challenged, he made the glove save, and you could see he had some form of cockiness. And confidence that I don't see a ton from him. A lot of the times it's just, you know, he's like, look at some of the like, even going back to the Ottawa series. Everyone Brady had in front of the net and he like fell back on his ass and still somehow made the save. Like sometimes he gets he gets swimming around a little too much that I felt like he was on his edges. He came in challenge, made the save, and he kind of popped back up like I got a big swinging dick here. And that's what I need to see from a starting goalie. Going into the fortress. And that's what Justin Williams said about when we interviewed a member. He said like his his calm confidence kind of helps their team, their group, because he'll make a save like that. And it's like, oh, OK, he's he's locked in right now. But yeah, you're right. It's almost going to be where he he makes that part of his game where, hey, if I make a save, I got to look like I'm confident, big, making these saves. Because if that group, too, if they feel like they have something on you with especially the goaltender, they're going to abuse you. Vegas will. Talked about the first two lines for Carolina having like big moments where now they got their confidence going. Listen, the fourth line for Carolina. I don't think I'd seen him made a mistake all playoff long. Like, I don't know if they'd been on for a goal against all playoff long. That's how dominant they were in game one. I thought they got chewed up a little bit by Vegas's fourth line. Well, who comes through tonight as well for Carolina? That Jankowski goal to get their confidence back and get one back for their team where I felt like they let. Them down in game one. So you basically at this point in time. Everybody's had their shit moment and everybody's had their success moment. So it's his confidence and full strength. The legs who drag the leg to stay on side there. That was sick because right right off the hop, you saw a Vegas player throw the arm up. It did look off sides. It was an awesome play by him, but looked like the Vegas guy tried to push him off side, too, and he still stayed on. But yeah. You're right. Back to game one. So you mentioned Jarvis kind of whiffing on the chance. And then more than that, right before the hurdle goal, the the save that Hart made on him. Now, he did whiff on that one, too, a little bit. Yes. But still for Hart to get out there and he made that glove save. And I want to say it was within a minute. Hurdle buries that winner. And that that shift that was so like how you have to beat Carolina, how Vegas plays. This isn't throws it over. And I mean, you know who threw it over from the corner originally because the hurdle cycle that it was a cycle. He rolled up and he cycled it down to Sissons. And that's the man on man bullshit. If you want to pressure to the outside and outside the dots, that's not how Vegas rolls. They're always protecting the middle. They allow you the perimeter stuff. So if you could beat your guy to the inside, that's how you beat that man on man pressure with. What a pass, though. Oh, it makes passes like that. That's what I had no idea. I had no idea. And he didn't either. That was what's the stat here? Gee, I'm trying to read this quick. Thomas Hurdle gave Vegas the lead with three twenty four remaining regulation, making it the latest go ahead goal in any Stanley Cup final contest since game six in twenty seventeen when Horcrux got the winner. It is also the latest in a final opener since two thousand seventeen with Jake Gensel got one. So just like I was thinking we were getting O.T. And then all of a sudden it's. Over and I'm like, oh, I think Caroline is completely fucked. Also in game one. I think Eichel at one point had me saying he's the best player in the league. Eichel was so nasty at one point. I think he gave a guy a tap in that was missed or it bounced. Then he hit the crossbar and like the poise he has. I was like, and he still he hasn't scored a goal in the cup final yet, but he's got nine assists in six games or that was through game one. Did he get any points tonight? I don't know. I don't think he did. Yeah. If I. If I had one gripe with him in. I mean, what do you tell a guy like Jack Eichel? But I would like to see him shoot it a little more, like especially on the power play. That power play is not going great. I he's got an absolute cannon. That's why they broke him and Marner up. Right. Yeah, because it's like, no, you shoot. No, you shoot. No, you shoot. But yeah, but like he can he can rip it like let the goalies now like they know you're going to pass. They know you're looking for for pass like surprise them once in a while. Like the sift one in there from the corner. Because he. He gets it and he has time because all the D play off of him because they know he's looking for pass and let a couple rip. Yeah. Like he did in the in the last series when he exposed Wedgwood far side post and in there. I don't think Wedgwood thought he was going to shoot that either. No. And and in the all time funniest moment is the end of the game. If Mitch Marner's on the Toronto Maple Leafs at the end of the game, Brynden Moore does it. Incredible job of like running down to the D and tapping Nikitian on the on the shoulder. Go, go. It's probably the only English you know. Go and stall who I think I think he I think he might have beat three different centers. He was just snapping them back. That was doubt. He's a moose. It was Sissons. I don't know who else went in there. Boom, boom. So Brynden Moore's like, all right, he's going to win it again. And it works out perfectly. And it slides over Nikitian and Marner blocks it. Now, if Marner's up. And let's say. Honestly, Marner look like he's getting out of the way. I don't really blame him. I guess the guy shoot. at 110 miles an hour if he's on toronto that puck goes in and he's getting carved oh front getting out of the way front page of the toronto star and he goes over to vegas and he's like oh fuck it's like kind of flamingoing blocks it and it's the hero look at him blocking the shot i'm like this guy has just won at life he's in vegas his fucking teammates had him over their shoulder rudy style leaving the ice what are you talking about he's like i didn't even mean to he's already got a statue look like he's kind of trying to get out of the way of that one they move they move the dragon at the fortress it's a marner statue of him blocking that shot i think it was one of those ones where you track it late and you're like oh fuck yeah you're like oh shit like he's a guy he blocks a lot of shots for like a scared guy he's not a guy like me flamingoing out of the way so i think it was kind of he saw it last second and then was like oh boy what do i do here and it hit him but i was going in great hundred percent it looked like it was on the angle where it went posting in but i'll i'll shout out heart here heart threw out his blocker and it was like the same level of where that was going so i would have kind of liked to have seen it we should do some sports science show to see if it would have scored let's have memes try to do it yeah see what he figures out with like an equation and maybe ra's uh world will figure it out when we go there after this or not all right well it's been it's been amazing i cannot wait saturday night fired up no it's sunday two days off no no no it's no no it's two days off before games four saturday four they go back to tuesday on um for saturday 8 p.m what a city to have that extra day often okay so a couple things colorado's in it all of a sudden we lose the kushkin again hey to go back to the ray boar thing it didn't someone say that the reason why they had him do it because they expected colorado army said maybe they already had that done because they thought it was going to be colorado which not the craziest thing still a great feature but it was unreal feature yeah a little bizarre because it wasn't colorado playing yeah i i guess arm he's got a point there he's got a point for sure i mean i always love seeing bubble because when it started with ray i was like why is he what's he now by the end of the video i'm like that was incredible i already showed it it but i did for a second go oh what's ray like they're at tresco what's going on here bruins aren't doing shit um the the even going back to quickly game one i thought like torts calming down the boys after they went down to like i think that he's been really good with his bench stuff like they got him miked up and you can hear what he's saying he's been pretty bang on i mean some of you might say you could coach a monkey could coach that team and they could win but i thought i think he's hitting all the right notes and all the right buttons and he has gone he broke a record for the longest time in between cup final victories or a game in the cup 8028 days between game seven and oh four and game one on tuesday so towards and then i think uh the the clip i saw i was like what have you done or what have you tried to change as being a coach i'm trying to be a better listener i'm trying to be i try to listen better it's like me like i'm trying to listen better i'm sorry what if what if next year he's still the coach and by playoffs he's got like the whole like uh the outfit like he's like a monk oh if he's coached next year and they're struggling with eight games to go he's gone he's gone if they win it this year you know now pinky and the brain are like oh so we got another thing we can do we could just call a guy we don't even know eight games to go and he's like oh i'm trying to listen better i'm trying to listen better to go and then just run through the whole league darren mccarty's behind the bench he's ripping the ripping the bong drawing up power plays uh what about uh scotty bowman imagine they pull him out of out of retirement makes sense that'd be a lot that'd be a lot of days in between stanley cup finals cool um we got a little bit of house cleaning so we are we are actually going to boston uh we will not be attending games three and four i would go to six in vegas if it gets there and and vegas has a chance to close out i don't know about you guys but we're going to be doing a live stream for game four in boston that's going to be tuesday um and then we got a bagger plan we're not gonna should we say who no no make them wait because they're so mad that that gruden and patty maroon and mcdonald isn't out yet we just got to keep them mad so they're watching angry you know you're watching something angry you're fucking chewing on nails i'm finally getting another bagger who those next guys when is that when's the gruden one coming out i i i thought it was during the finals i don't know 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cans lattes now available at stella blue coffee.com or subscribe on amazon for 10 off you know who's not hot the detroit red wings the boss it's not often um i guess it's happening more and more now but a captain coming out uh born saying trade me right fucking now was he not born in michigan yeah went to michigan for college born there yeah this one is original six one was the yeah you'd never see that that was a friedman bomb that was can i can i speak like openly here and like i don't want to upset anybody but like i would love to be a fly on a wall if you put dylan larkin and steve eiserman in a room together alone buddy the first thing i thought was the balls it takes because i'm guessing he does that in person maybe the agent calls but there's obviously some disconnect and a disagreement or friction between him and eiserman and it goes back to two years ago press conference the press conference end of the year yeah where we all at the time were like oh man like i'm just i mean stevie eiserman is my idol yeah it's the first jersey i ever got the red eiserman captain red wings unbelievable number 19 that's why i wear his number and to just be standing up there and like yeah we thought we'd get some help we never get some help we probably should have known then that this thing's coming to an end at some point biz i kind of respect dylan larkin basically telling stevie why i don't give a fuck how many stanley cups you have i don't care what you did for this organization he's giving you know he's giving it to you he's giving it to you he's giving it to you he's giving it to you he's giving it to you i'm saying i'm not fucking waiting any longer for you to make some moves to get guys in here to help me win bye bye i want out i don't want to win not even win get into the dance get in i i'll throw it over to yans do you agree with the fact that larkin's kind of like i'm not staying patient anymore i've waited as long as i have now here's the thing i'm not staying patient anymore i've waited as long as i have now here's the thing i'm not staying patient anymore i've waited as long as i have now here's the thing i'm not staying patient anymore i've waited as long as i have now here's the flip side and here's where some red wings fans might say give me a fucking break yeah i think they are saying that larkin had a great first half of the year i've i've sang his praise he had a great olympics he had a great four nations he didn't have a five on five point in the month of march when they was injured okay okay sorry i'm i'm just i'm playing devil's advocate here i know all i keep hearing from these two guys on the podcast are like everybody's playing injured this time of year everybody's playing injured this time of year well he's not playing this time of year not playing what do you mean after the olympics everybody's playing banged up yeah i have a crazy i don't know if it's bad i think there's a difference between banged up and like a knee okay so you're a larkin defender you're saying fuck you to stevie why um what's what's the stat g what's the stat dylan larkin has played in more games in the winter olympics than he has in the stanley cup playoffs through 11 seasons in the nhl so i think i think he's only played in one olympics six games in the olympics and no playoff games i think he's sick in the playoffs but i think he's sick and tired of hearing like you know especially since he's been the captain but since he's been there since lidstrom left zetterberg left datsuk left they haven't done anything right and he's probably sick and tired of hearing that maybe the guys from there maybe it's adding a little more pressure you know he could be hearing it every day he could be hearing stories you look at a guy like mitch marner who grew up in toronto played there he might be hearing some shit then wants out maybe uh larkin sees what marner's doing he's like you know what fuck this i want out too i just did it they're best buddies yeah i respect the fact that he did it man i i really do to have the balls to go into a guy like stevie why to i mean detroit's a first class organization that was like the one team i always wanted to play for but obviously they were a wagon when we were playing and just to have the balls to do it and i would imagine him winning at the olympics probably helped that have the confidence and going into it and he's seeing other guys doing it maybe some tampering who knows but yeah i mean at the end of the day he's probably like lava cake luncheon meetings yeah he's probably like i i want to be happy every day going to the rink and i might not be doing that having that right now in uh in detroit so i i tip my cap to him for doing that do you think that do you think that it's a fan base divided if you could say larkin stays and he he continues under different management and or no i'm i'm sick of stevie why i want stevie why out of the seat because how long it's taken and i'm sick of this eiser plan eiser plan like who are who do you think that they're the fan base is siding with here i would imagine siding with with eiserman and the team based on more so him like kind of quitting them like you know fans look at things like he's quitting on us he's quitting on our cities quitting on like what we're trying to build but i would also say there's a lot of people online kind of saying i'm done with hearing about this eiser plan eiser plan it's moving at a snail's pace we got we got we're in a tortoise race here by oh we need better players we need better players we need better players well how about fucking trading some of your draft picks and some of your prospects like the vegas golden knights do like billy g does like some of the other teams getting creative right now and making their rosters better a lot sooner like being very very patient no doubt um thinking as a if i was a red wings die hard so you're two years into uh what was it it's a two i got a seven year deal i got a jock sniffer fan write me today he goes and this is a guy who's been around sports please blast eiserman on your next podcast so inept that you run your homegrown captain out of town yeah do you think i don't know if it's a random amount of yeah that's i don't i don't know there's this guy on tilt i'm not just i think they're all until i don't really blame him i i'm why couldn't they keep that why couldn't they keep it quiet and try to trade him without having this in the middle of the no one will no one will part of elliott's article said nobody will comment on it eiserman won't comment on it probably wants elliott friedman dead at the fact that this was talked about it puts pressure on the team though too if if this gets out there now there's pressure from the fan base they're going to get a lot more offers from other teams now that his name is out there but at the same time darren dragger said this is something that's been going on behind the scenes for months now so i don't think this is new to other gms i didn't want to say this but i heard larkin took a shit on his desk i i'm not i'm not even i'm not even going to allow you to mention something so ridiculous as to someone disrespecting steve eiserman that way and i know you're you're it could be a rumor but i heard he took a shit around here's the thing now did you hear that nope never heard that if you think that steve eiserman is going to allow himself just to be bullied like this though you're crazier than the guy who told you that he took a dump on his desk or maybe you just made that up i believe and then so you're the crazy one because i'm going to sit back now and say oh you want to trade i played the fifth what's it what's his no trade no move two more years of a no move and then it goes to a 10 team no sorry no trade no trade two years and then if he took a shit on his desk it adds a third year of no move i just think wings fans probably are thinking like if if after next year you don't make the playoffs like one more year almost now yeah you you could argue both sides like another fucking year but it's like i don't know you're two years into seven it's a hell of a bargain he makes it's an eight seven eight point seven cap hit he gets 30 every year this year at 34 never had 80 points never had 35 goals i know it doesn't get paid does it get paid for i just told you two stats and you got defensive i'm just giving you the information i'm i'm i'm having a conversation i think at the beginning of this you agreed with them so it we're we're just talking we're talking like fans do at a bar right the whole creation of barstool sports the platform we're lucky enough to be a part of we're having a goddamn conversation call me sensitive again at one in the morning i'll fucking jump to this computer i'll shit on your desk okay i'm just trying to say that's why that's why i call you sensitive i'm just trying to say that one more year dylan one more year that's wings fans talking one more year i agree and then i get it if they miss next year because that's like all right if they miss next year i think eisenberg could be gone i think that it should be like a like a russian roulette style they go one more year and if they don't make playoffs they basically do the standoff to whoever draws the short straw and they're gone forever forever never to be talked about again eiserman's banner would have to come down from the stand like let's go all in here but you're making you're making this sound like they hate each other and that the beef is with i think they actually might hate each other really oh okay i it sounds like they they they certainly hate the that's a dan whitney phrase they certainly disagree on things and he just is the captain of an original six franchise he's from the state and he just said get me the fuck out of here i'll beat that that they hate each other's guts drum until steve eiserman comes on this podcast and says otherwise well and also rips the bong with us do you think there's a chance that um with drager saying this has been kind of going on or in the works for a while that that's why billy g didn't go out and over pay for somebody at the deadline because you know if there's one team that needs dylan larkin it's the march it's the minnesota wild and if there's one use them too actually and if there's one gm i don't want to say they can bully but that would have as much respect for anyone as he would billy g that that would be the team that he would trade with but billy g i think they would be able to give up to even get larkin back oh no they already got goaltending but merles has already said that kaprizov took too much so they can't get him merles and i'm telling you guys i know merles we are going to be hearing about kaprizov took too much money for the rest of time oh if they never win it it's you will hear that for the rest of the time and he's the one who said it first boys oh merles said it first now other every single team i mean yes everyone needs centers this guy's now i said before i actually believe dylan larkin on a stanley cup team is an incredible second line center that is kind of the difference between mcdavid and and um you know the eichel and i but i i think you get larkin as your number two and you're fucking laughing or or with erickson eck that's a good enough one too do you agree with me hundred percent okay um i think minnesota is very intriguing um i also people keep bringing up the fact and i don't know maybe we'll get posha to chime in on this one i believe he sure's deals coming up that feels like too much of a same type of center where i kind of feel at this point in time and posha's probably gonna argue with me i feel like he sure is also a second line center on a stanley cup winning yes i agree with you know he's that he's in that 15 to 20 range so what about dallas dallas for robinson but going back to how you cover him call him robinson i love it i love love it what about what about david robinson would would you want would you want larkin and he's sure on the same team would simone nemick get that deal done not just nemick okay throwing a little bit more you're saying oh i thought you were talking to pasha you're saying bring passion look at this guy's fit right now he doesn't do the the light late at night he does the red light he sure is not going anywhere let's just put this to fucking rest like oh yeah don't change up your core bud why would you wait so you'd rather he share over larkin he sure is better than larkin not even a question it's it's not like night and day but he sure is better than larkin no keith it's look at the analytics man he'll send you he's better than larkin is that red light or better than larkin how this is a blue light blocker how why is he better why is he better than larkin uh because well if you want to look at just straight like on top of the hood stats he's had more points than larkin before he's he sure has cracked 80 points and defense has fucking jack hughes on his team they don't play together power play okay sure power play but fuck it's where you get your points that's where you get them this guy is your eye oh larkin doesn't have fucking lucas raymond to play with and fucking patty we're talking this is apples to oranges buddy you just mentioned points but like i said in the group chat it doesn't make sense for the devils to get larkin because he would be a 3c on that team and that's overkill use your assets like nemetz why you laugh larkin well i mean we always talk about strength to the middle strength to the middle strength to the middle and if yeah but they have bigger needs they have bigger needs then larkin would be a 3c he's not playing above he sure he's not playing above jack hughes they need an elite scoring winger use nemetz use your assets to get an elite scoring winger they don't remember this is the guy this is the guy when when talking elite scoring wingers i don't want anything to do steven stamkos yeah true and you talk about elite guys eelers comes over from winnipeg he's playing third line the man's playing in the fucking stanley cup finals he had two goals the other night and granelli just mentioned he sure has hit 80 points once then his next highest season was 69 points so i'm listen i love larkin i'm not shitting on him but i'd say multiple times i i think they're very very close but he sure is a better player i'll take that to the grave do you uh let's go to yans's mock trade so that's the other thing other than the battle between the great mock trade times great great mock trade time the mock the mock trades the mock trades yans the the robo not signing with dallas and it always being a storyline of whether he's going to end up there they're getting tight against the cap and they got some they got quite a few guys to lock in before next season begins could you see them bringing larkin over and moving robo yeah i don't see i mean ideally you'd like to keep both of them but did they have the cap space who knows and i think dallas has to look at like you have an elite goaltender like ottinger you got to be in the wind now you got to stack your team if you're losing a guy like robertson who's scoring as much as he does bring it in a guy like i mean obviously you'd like to have them both but stevie why isn't gonna get bent over in this deal he's gonna get some fucking players and some prospects so i don't know if um who knows like would he even sign that right it's there's a lot to a lot to go into that but i think a guy when i soup when i'm not gonna say superstar but when a high-end player a captain requests a trade demands a trade does the team ever win that deal like look at the quinn hughes deal a lot of time who knows what booyam could turn into but like as of right now i think that was like oh my god that was also during the season too right so less time to deal with it and i think that's a good thing i think that's a good thing right now they have they have plenty of time to deal with this they got i do think that this is bringing up what could be uh a legendary draft this summer yeah i think we're gonna get the most noise and action and i think that we're we're entering an era it's the the player empowerment era where these guys we're in the middle we have we're not entering it we're in it we're in it i think we're in it it started with matthew kachuk yeah yeah that was what i'm saying is like that was kind of the domino and now you're gonna see way more of it it's beautiful way more of it so when you say it's beautiful like i as a former player yeah it is because players never i don't want to say didn't have the balls but they just didn't do this and now we're like kind of getting like a little nba style biz to the point today on the group chat for everyone listening says he wouldn't mind if there was eight powerhouse teams in the league i've been beating this drum for a while and then 24 shit bums and then these eight just run through the playoffs and it's always like we got that and i then said well that's what the cap was created to stop but now the player empowerment error that we're entering is kind of flipping it back where guys are just the problem is they're all they're all gonna want to go to vegas yeah they're all gonna the southern teams are gonna just stack up for years to come here this is just we're in um but i i have beat the drum of i'm okay with them making the contracts even shorter in length in order to create a little bit more movement i think that everybody's gonna eventually get fed and and you know listen i i think that right now you're probably looking at some canadian markets that are going to lose some star american players as a result of other bullshit off the ice that's gone down and maybe like media wise and yada yada yada you guys know all the reasons as to why that's going to happen but i always believe that the pendulum will swing back the other way at a certain point and that's kind of the era we're entering right now and right now after july 1st hits i think that the players who still have like players coming off of entry level will still have the opportunity to lock in for those eight years even if it's beyond july 1st but once that new seven years i i believe that if there's players who are coming off of their entry level where certain organizations yes you're right i was wrong about that earlier it's september 15th for that i believe correct they're going to get that little extended period right before training camp where they can lock in these guys for these final eight-year deals and then after that it's going to be the six on a new team seven on a current team i think the next cba would not be shocked if it's five and six and then maybe beyond i don't think that guys are going to be able to lock in for those eight years i think that guys should be signing deals longer than than i think six years is a very healthy number nba went short where i think that it's five years for your star players but any it's four otherwise maybe that's a little short but i like the five and six i want to see guys changing teams a little bit more listen do i respect the sydney crosby's and the steve eiserman's and the the the mario lamuse that played for one organization but man it was pretty sick when gretzky got dealt it fucking blew up the hockey world man it's what all everybody was talking about and imagine getting to see a guy like connor mcdavid going to nyc getting him play for the new york rangers apparently he's buying a house in montreal that's all that's all the that's all the rumors gone online right now he was in montreal and he was looking at houses obviously that is crazy you said that i got a dm saying hey my my friend in edmonton is a realtor and i guess they're shopping their place now take what i'm saying with so much big grains of salt like you can't even imagine so many big grains like not those mini grains you know those big grains no no no no we're doing like the salt like big chunks of salt like that you salt the roads with oh shit oldie style those ones we're de-icing right now yeah the de-icers grain of salt you're taking with what i'm saying i guess mcdavid's now on the move i'm getting to the quick hits portion of the show here well yan's brought it up don't i know he did he's fucking someone his algorithm is probably some fucking crackhead hockey rumors guy who's like ah mcdavid's buying a house montstream saint blanc what's the fucking area called the i i i'm not doing this i'm doing quick hits shout out showed up yes zach warensky wins his first norris trophy what an incredible like race for the norris this year very surprised um kale mccarr was second dalene ends up getting third evan bouchard fourth uh but warensky he deserved it he deserved you could say they didn't make the playoffs you don't agree i disagree with you um i thought that may hurt him but it didn't and the way they did the video of presenting it where they said it was very funny for anyone who didn't see it they said it was he went golfing and then they set up all these hidden cameras and then i think dan rosen was there to or somebody was there to interview him it was a new it was going to be a a little kind of father's day father's day quick hit on what it's like being a dad and you could tell he was probably like what the i i think his son's like two months old he's like and in the interview the fake interview is like uh not much change like i uh he's just like a little baby and then boom the guy's like oh my comes from behind with the norris trophy and all his family's there his dad by the way complete machine stallion machine he looks like a professional fucking bodybuilder i was like no wonder this kid's an animal and then his brother who had a baby the day before then got to go play golf with him i think so i'll shout out his wife and then he comes home it was cool and zach lorenzky's an awesome guy very funny side note to this he slept through his interview with ra and i so i had to call merles and that was merle's first ever appearance on the show no south korea where i believe he might have just taken an ambient too merles was so mad at me he didn't give me time to prepare dude i invented this show i invented the norris trophy the mer so that was mer's first appearance when lorenzky blew us off but then we got to know him a legendary shot in the sandbagger he played on business ball hockey team they lost and he wins the norris so shout out zach awesome person that was the turning point that's when he took a look at me and i was like oh my god i'm gonna be like oh my god i'm gonna be like oh my god internally after nose face got him at the og chicklets cup in detroit and he said i gotta step my game up and he did and then he sunk that amazing shot in the bagger one of the best bagger moments of all time until the gruden one you guys will have to wait for that uh another another um award winner i'm gonna let ra talk about that award um and finally here uh the oilers um in a new story they're uh they're looking to trade darnell nurse um and in the article you know who wrote the article biz uh i would assume that it was stuff everybody reads spec spec spec came came in with it with a hammer and in the article mentions that they were thinking about scratching them before game seven of the cup finals two years ago um and they decided not to but that was part of the article and they were like oh my god i'm gonna be like oh my god i'm gonna be so not just saying that edmonton wants to get rid of them just really just just making them feel even worse bringing up the possibility of a healthy scratch in game seven so apparently um bowman and nurse will meet this week we'll see what happens coming from somebody who had more healthy scratches than games played it's not as bad as you think the first time i was scratched remember ralph kruger came in and i saw my name in the morning skate and it was seventh defenseman and i was like oh my god i'm getting scratched never been scratched he comes in scratched me i was devastated i was bummed i was like oh my god i'm a healthy cry i got i got healthy scratch no i didn't cry and then probably a sign that like things were coming to an end i was like this is like got a workout in i had some popcorn i was like i could see why biz likes this so much it wasn't as bad as i thought it would be now i think i ended up being scratched like i don't know like 12 of the next 15 it was a long run of being scratched but um yeah biz you were on to something with the healthy scratch life uh mandy malhotra hired as the 23rd head coach of the vancouver canucks i imagine that they'll be just horrible again next year but this guy won a calder cup for this organization and um still hasn't got his ring but he but they want it and and now the question is do they draft his son who's a super prospect uh that's something to keep an eye out on this one kind of very confusing to me uh then i i read more about it chris mcfarland uh leaves the colorado avalanche and becomes the president and the gm i believe of nashville and that was i was like why are you leaving is it lateral no he's just has more power and nashville obviously waited for a reason everyone was like why haven't they had a hired a gm well they had their guy they wanted colorado loses and he moves on so were you surprised by that um i was surprised but i think that as one of the best gms and of course now presidents in the league getting to go to a place as desirable and off the grid as nashville with the support they get no state tax i think that he could turn that team into a wagon in like three four years okay i think that that is a very undercover organization that i could see quickly on the rise especially with that hire and such when you're a gm going in a situation with that much money to play with given the the salary cap and and the no state tax i think that is a great great situation for them to to lock in and land their guy as well as yeah i i just see a lot of guys wanting to play there in the future like 100 we never mentioned their name when you talk about like oh matthews where do we think he ends up where do you think larkin ends up where do you think all these other we never talk about nashville i think that they could slow or uh pretty quickly here turn it around and create a wagon well don't trade reicher lee that that kid i love that i watch that kid i think he's gonna be a stud um we have we have a request for everyone listening when we're all together next week we're gonna be doing a bunch of stuff we'd love a ton of questions we're gonna do one of those mailbag episodes where we're all together in the same room we're gonna be doing a bunch of stuff we'd love a ton of questions we're gonna do one fire away any question about any questions good questions hopefully but 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It's about time he's had a fucking. show on my clock my time this is my butchery right here love it great game tonight dude you mentioned earlier with brett howard crazy before game one 100 to 1 to win the con smith after game one he went down to 25 to 1 he got the two goals tonight he was friggin 2 to 1 i've been playing in the streets for a long time i have never seen a line go from 100 to 1 to 2 to 1 within four and a half periods absolutely bananas crazy you bet it at 101 i uh i i i got a little taste yeah i felt the wagon nothing crazy what does a little taste mean honestly like for him 10 grand no no no no no that's i mean that's not kind of a max play no like just like just like a close to a c note under or over 500 bucks uh no no just 100 just uh like actually less than 100 but i'm like i haven't you know like i said i've been a good boy lately i was like i gotta get a couple cons out there like i think jack was a good bet 14 to 1 but like i said dora fey of 50 to 1 howden i mean he's eight to one right now so obviously he hasn't won it yet but you know two to one you said right boys he did during the game he was down to two to one but then oh carolina come back so they they flex you know what i'm saying but but like i said i mean i mean the last time i mean i dropped the odds at the venetia one time that was september 2010 i was betting the bruins the year i loaded up on him when they won the cup and i i was like i only put like two grand on him and they went down from 16 to 11 to 14 and i called my father i was like dad i'm like he was like a proud pup i was like i just dropped the odds here but like we were also like when did faggots turn a bunch of pussies to it it was only two grand they should be dropping the odds off a small bet like that so it's it's wild like when you when you see that actually at action so anyways howden down to that tortorella he got bailed out i thought the challenge was awful awful challenge on that play like just the optics of that you know the intent to blow like i don't know why you would put that risk at that point in the game it cost them but they did make it up they did get it to ot and also i don't know what he waited to uh yeah to pull hot that long they had a power play they were in the zone two two minutes left and i don't know you gotta pull you gotta play a goalie they have a six on four opportunity i know they did end up tying it anyways but i don't know so i i don't know you get the you get the free icing if you're carolina they do have a good penalty kill and they're pretty good six on five i would i think i'm letting my power play get a chance okay all right okay yeah sometimes it's too many guys out there when it's six on four i like it for the face off because you have an extra guy to go get the puck uh but they didn't they didn't they didn't pull them oh they did pull them when they got the face off win right uh yeah yeah so he was it did end up working out that was at the end like it's not like an asshole right now but basically i don't know i just thought like when they were in the zone i would you know get a six on four opportunity but yeah you guys played the game i certainly didn't but either way i love strong opinions though r.a and i'm interested to hear that you didn't back torts up considering i thought it was a botched call i thought that you didn't back torts up he he was going to put it into the like the guys upstairs hands to come through with the common sense as we saw with with in the edmonton against anaheim series but i guess it always goes back to having to to start with the what the ref called on the ice exactly like just the initial optics even it's like and it wasn't called the goal it's like like what do you think you're going to see here that's going to flip this the other way i just i was shocked we mentioned it earlier the fact that it was potentially labeled as a botched call i don't think it was a botched call i don't the goalie interference yeah was the fact yeah i just yeah either way like i mean the thing is though it was a careless stick that killed him i mean hurdle yeah that's just a careless penalty that stick when he knocks it all down tripping there it's just he's got the refs have to call that it's just not a tripping penalty you want to see in overtime but you got to call that he took him out of play but either way we've had two classics so far so far so good in this cup stuff this is a crazy stat after the game one win vegas has many has as many or more wins in stanley cup than 13 of the 31 other teams in the nhl that's absolutely banana lands when you see that they're not going anywhere yeah oh no absolutely right just throw guys off the off the ship and bring more guys on uh what you mentioned bringing the cup out i don't like that i think like you know bring the put the cup out when you know the cup is in the building save it for that stuff those guys know what they're playing for the fans know they know the dealio i just oh you thought it was a cheesy intro yeah i thought it was like you know it's like then they do the uh the introductions everybody knows why we're here i don't i just like i mean what do you guys think you know you're growing the game i already said i liked it yeah i liked it i think it's part of one of those things of growing the game all for clips and all that stuff i think the sickest trophy in sports so like show it off and then if the cup final i was in they brought that thing out i think the juices are going even more looking at right before game one you would have been like eelers i drank out of it well yeah i i agree i agree with you guys i think that when like dangling the carrot and it's just all of a sudden it's like oh wow it's within grasp now she is maybe maybe pucker some guys a little extra maybe maybe that's what ignited this unbelievable series so far so we should be thanking them for it i don't see pictures of me like when it's 17 times and like that doesn't mean that much weren't you weren't you in a trivia show when you mentioned that like you sneaking in and being a part of like six cup back parties was like i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't the question the question was the question was um oh you can't talk about it i don't know i guess geez give me one of these ones yeah the show hasn't hasn't dropped yet but yeah yeah no i i don't think i guess they don't want to spoil but yeah uh the dog walk on boston chicago yeah my last uh my last i mean it's a dog walk it's not the fucking internet finale it's like jeopardy either way it's coming out soon but yeah i made my last pick personal but like i sent pictures over it was kind of a setup for for a lot but anyways talking about coaches thanks for letting me save this one uh congrats to my my boy coop he won the jack adams i i know a lot of people are complaining online thought rough should i should have won a bubble about whatever congrats to coop man i told him now you get the other uh thanos gem in your fist there you know with uh all the stanley cups and the gold medals and everything he's won so congrats to my pal happy for him but i was like surprised that i guess i shouldn't be considering when we talk about the stuff that what gold medal huh not gold silver uh what am i talking about oh four nations yeah he's got i know he's got an international gold somewhere but um but i know he's at hl uh what do you call it ushl he's got basically every level he's played coach that he's got a championship come on i had a lot of buffalo fans coming at me because they pulled up a like a screenshot of when i was on the panel and at that point in time columbus was in a playoff spot and i had my top three as coop dan muse and bonus i thought that if columbus would have made playoffs i would have had bonus ahead of lindy rough for getting that horrendous start to the season that he was not a part of and he was not to be blamed for because he wasn't the coach there i thought that that would have been more impressive than what would lindy rough had did in buffalo like yes congrats to lindy rough and everything he did um coop has had far superior regular seasons than what lindy rough has and has not won the trophy so some fans they want this consolation prize because they got beat out in the second round of playoffs of their coach winning coach of the year like i think coop's got a good enough resume to have finally won his first jack adams trophy and with how many injuries they had this year and the way that what he got out of that group he 100 deserved to win that thank you was that not one of the closest votes ever yes it was oh really it was the closest ever yeah and lindy's already won one and i liked how i like how they did it too i like how they kind of surprised these guys he was um presented a new wing i think it was tampa general hospital and um you know they kind of surprised and they wheeled out the trophy on a cot and his kids were there and stuff so you know i like how they kind of take these special moments and make it all special these guys but but going back to my point is some people think that i have a vote for coach of the year i did have a vote i reneged my vote i don't want to vote on league awards anymore i said no thank you ryan whitney no i just wasn't invited back oh but she just mentioned a good point that coop's dad passed this year right like tough tough year you know like the olympics and i think he passed a few days after the olympics yeah yeah right after you know going through that and then at least he gets he gets his first jack adams so i'm happy for him very happy for coop yeah absolutely uh also congrats to our chick uh chris rooney from south boston he worked as a he's working his ninth cup of the year and he's going to win the olympics and he's going to win the final wait he made his debut back in november of 2000 man i can't believe he's been on the job almost 26 years already 50 years old yeah he's got games uh one three and five of this series yeah yeah he gave a little uh a little quick talk to the boys before they dropped the first puck so yeah congrats to my pal chick and we go back a little bit um did you see the home plate umpire this uh the philadelphia phillies pitcher chris sanchez he had the uh fifth most uh innings without giving up a run 50.2 innings and you know they finally gave up a run and the umpire actually won the olympics and he's going to win the olympics and he's going to win the olympics actually like you know stepped up he actually went over and like went over like and put dirt the plate and like wiped it off so like the crowd would be able to give him an extra applause like you know he made sure like to waste a little bit more time so the fans could give this guy like an extra like you know 25 couldn't do that move all right absolutely man absolutely i know you hate robots you're not down with that system uh no no i've never said anything about that shit no i mean oh okay i've done i've dumped on ai and fucking elon musk and whatever else but no i never dumped yet oh give me a minute um i noticed that you uh that you were commenting about the potential replacement of the cnn or not cnn is it 60 minutes host yeah yeah apparently joe rogan's in the running to rape replace him is that true i don't i mean radar online i think was the original source i mean i don't know where i originally came from but i mean basically like you say with the anaconda chokeout that's basically what cbs has been doing 60 minutes they're like anaconda choking it out they're making people not want to work there who were there for the right reasons i mean it's been on the air for 58 fucking years it's been the most profitable show at cbs it's a show it's not an old people show it's it has the you know top 10 ratings every week for 50 fucking years now and they're just making it not what it used to be they're choking out what it what it what it's supposed to be about like true journalism yeah yeah exactly and like holding people accountable and that's like and you know media in this country it's it's not a it's not a coincidence in the last 10 years people are really down right now journalism media it's not perfect here we go boys hey it's not perfect it's it's not obviously but it's essential in this country you know like you need to hold like whether it's the government or companies you need things and people and companies and they need to be held accountable and that's why we have a free press in this country and like i mean i know we don't do that type of stuff but we we're under that same umbrella and no i'm interested in it yeah there's been 60 minutes that i watch and i'm like wow that was unbelievable i learned a lot about it like i just didn't know how deep it went and yeah you asked me how long the show was what's that an hour and a half but uh you know and look i can what did he say he said you asked me how long the show was yeah 60 minutes 60 minutes no i i get the joke but anyway no i can know people joe rogan i just i just don't think that you know him the idea of him being on 60 minutes is it kind of makes me laugh a little bit like i i mean i know he's a curious guy pick i i know and i don't have any i i just think they should just left things as they were but again well you should since you have a such a strong opinion on it you should think of a replacement as opposed to joe rogan for well my point is my point is you know they should you know leave say chop fuck with 60 minutes but again this is it's it's intentional like they they're like they're you know it's it's the one critical major like media thing and it's getting like snuffed out i mean it's it's thought that's not a left right blue fucking green red thing it's just it's watch it it's just the people who are put in charge that are firing people who with zero experience it's it's just it's a crazy time in this fucking place man imagine ra gets the gig and it's like tick tick tick tick tick and it just goes to him he's like do you ever notice when you go to the deli fucking gravity bong he's like i'm just trying to get groceries at 902 i don't give a fuck that you close at nine o'clock all right this ain't even politics for real but like dude hunter biden has fucking been lighting up fucking twitter this whole weekend i guess he joined on a couple days ago have you seen any of that stuff i saw that he roasted people left and right dante the dawn yeah yeah he's been like responding to everybody but he's not it's not like again it's not like taking side he's just kind of calling a spade a spade out there but it's i don't know it's kind of made twitter like a little entertainer like it used to be all the time so okay but anyways a couple more things here i saw that movie pressure the one about uh before d-day the weather guy we talked about it last week awesome flick if you anybody out there looking for a go see a movie it's only like an hour or 40 minutes that's an awesome d-day movie it's like a perfect build-up right before saving private ryan and last but not least classic recommendation the bad news beers the original 1976 one of the best baseball movies of all time um language maybe if you're soft you might know walter matthau right tatum o'neill yep yeah i was on with that that that k adams the other day um she's like a like i think she does a lot of work for the nfl yeah she had an interesting take i because i watched uh the batman rises and or the back the batman dark night dark night rises dark night rises is that the name of them that's a yeah that was the third one yeah i thought i thought they were excellent she says like they didn't age well and they were like a little bit cringy when watching them back on them bro i thought the christian bale batmans were were fucking 10 out of 10 robert pattinson batman's awesome it is but no i mean it's like dark and more more than you like a more no i like no i like the christian bale ones better but that robert pattinson one i was like oh check it out it's long and it was good it's like a murder mystery movie it just happens to be a batman movie but like the the dark night and those those movies have held definitely held up is i mean i know i was shocked to hear that horrendous take and i actually thought going from the joker with uh with um with what he did um with heath leisure and what and how he acted and then to go into like uh bane the bane character how scary he was i couldn't understand him though what i couldn't understand him oh it'd because of the way he talks the bane one's the best beginning to a movie one of them of all time remember they're in the jet they're in the plane yeah and he's like one jumps out right down with the wreckage brother i might have just added the brother tom hardy definitely did a couple cycles before that brother man he's like one of us has to go down let's go down there smoking a blunt man have you seen the banana man down there i'll be a white a white villain like gary oldman in true romance blunt man i'll dress like business giant fucking banana banana man all right boys cup's been great so far love the chat enjoy the weekend and uh see you soon all right all right everyone please send us uh send us questions um check out our store for all the new merch we have and what a final this is we will be chatting with you after we'll just have one game to chat with on monday about game three is saturday night love all of you guys have a great weekend everyone live stream tuesday spit and check let's youtube channel game four see you there but it's taking time and i know you don't let it it's gonna happen it's gonna happen again you