Spittin’ Chiclets Episode 649: Featuring Tripp Tracy, Erik Johnson & Liam Blutman

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I got the rucksack pink Whitney on that leg, McKinnon. Oh, my God. That's crazy. We're going to get into that. And we got Carolina just biting back, biting back against Keith's Habs. Biz is on the hurricanes because Jeff Gordon said, don't you come near our Montreal Canadiens. Don't you even think about coming near us. I'm in witness protection here, dude. Yeah, you got to be careful. I'm in some high-rise building. And it's actually funny you mentioned you don't know if it's in Montreal. The province of Quebec is the only province right now, I believe, that is selling pink Whitney where the tariffs didn't affect it. So shout out. Shout out. Shout out to one of the three victories. The sexiest provinces there is. Oh. We don't need to dive into that. You're there right now. I can't imagine the messages you're getting. For anyone who's wondering, Biz has a, if you're not watching, Biz has a hockey dad, a new hat, 47 brand hockey dad, great lid. But he said, is this faux pas? I'm not a hockey dad. I said, you're a hockey daddy, though. And I know in Montreal, it's really going to be some Biz daddy time. So, guys, we're going to start out west. We have Eric Johnson coming on today. He's just dialed in everywhere. We've got Trip Tracy, boys. I don't know if you saw Trip after that overtime winner, the clip that went viral. He got credit for a couple of hits on the game. Did it even go viral? Yeah, it did. It's Tripper, dude. You know it did, Keith. Don't be hating on Trip. Keith and Trip have a little rivalry going. Kane's habs, and it could get ugly when he comes on. And we have Blutman. Blutman, I would say, took over. The internet on a Sunday night, Memorial Day weekend. At least hockey internet, because this guy went to the game, and they're down 3-0. He's on the glass, but boom, did he bring back that team from the dead? We're going to get chatting with him in a couple minutes, but I wanted to go over some league trends here, Biz. Gee put these in just at the beginning to tee things up a little bit. Right now, I'm seeing teams with a 2-1 series leading a best-of-seven series in the round before the final hold an all-time series record. It's a record of 92-28. So when looking at game three tonight, when looking at what's happening tonight, this is a big one. This is probably, possibly going to show who's going to win this series. Another thing that's just crazy to me is the fact that ESPN and TNT, when they've had the avalanche, they are regularly showing when the Avs are leading going into the third period, they win. They have not lost this season. And when the Avs are up by two or more goals, they win. While both things have happened in the last two games, and we said they might be dead after game one, they're officially done. It's over. It's over, boys. Write the obituary. And I'm shocked. I mean, obviously, I'm more shocked at the turnaround that Vegas has had and what they've turned into than I think I am on the Avs going down 3-0 because if you guys remember, this team was dead. They couldn't get a save all year. They trailed the second. Most amount of minutes in the league this year. Comeback kids. Goddamn Canucks trailed more than them, and they were the worst team in the league. And then they fire their coach with a chance of missing the playoffs. And, buddy, it's just been domination, Biz. It's a joke. You got to just. I hate them. I hate them. I'm disgusted by this. But sometimes you got to tip your cap, man, and I have to. Oh, buddy. These guys, not only the right moves at the deadline, but just like even after the first round, you were like, oh, OK. These guys. These guys got something cooking. They got some steam going here. And there was a few shaky games for Carter Hart. And I always go back right now to crediting Tortorella for not pulling them and not deviating from the plan in that series. And ever since then, I think I read that nine. Well, now it's probably I don't know about last night, but before last night, it was nine of his last ten starts. He had a save percentage of 926 or higher. So Merle's kind of touched on just how confident he looks. How he's kicking. And when he's in the zone, I mean, Jens, you played with him. This guy is locked and loaded. And sure enough, the one game where maybe he gets off to a little bit of a shaky start lets up, what, three in the first or three in the first half of the game there. And the offense all of a sudden comes storming back. And you also kind of felt like they were going to come back because Tort's kind of felt like he lit the bench up when they called that when they disallowed that goal, that cross checking goal. I don't know how you guys feel. I don't know how you feel about that one. We could talk about this after. But he kind of brought that fire. And he kind of went at the ref. And Dorofeev was actually sitting right in front of him. And Dorofeev didn't say a word to the ref. All Dorofeev was doing was staring forward. He was worried about fucking what the task at hand was. And the quote postgame for Mitch Marner, he's like, the boys didn't turn on each other. We didn't get yelling at each other. I thought that was, that was, I thought Merle's and G believe that's directed at old Maple Leafs teammates. I think it's. It's directed at the abs a little bit. And it's probably just not directed at anyone. And they just love each other. We're at the point in playoffs now where every single postgame quote is being fucking scrutinized, turned into something. It might not be going back to Bednar talking about Kale McCarr. I'm wondering what he's going to have to say about Nate now. Nate's not playing like fuck. And this is, this has gone completely off the rails more than anyone expected. Like, yes, did I expect this to be a series? And it goes back to the abs. Fans to being like, being like coin flip coin flip. We're going to dumb. We're going to dummy and drum these guys. The cockiest fan base has cursed themselves. Oh, it was there. They're getting a taste of their own medicine right now. Now, what did you guys make of that non goal? Were you guys, did you guys think that was a goal? Yans? I thought, I thought it was a goal just from seeing it and then knowing. And then you saw Marner who's got some of the best vision in the league. Dora Fia thinks he scores. I usually tell. By how the player reacts or the teammates around them. That's why they don't need to call it. If it's a no, if he waves no goal on the ice, right? The ref. So then they don't have enough evidence to overturn it. Can they not just not make a call and be like, okay, let's review this. And then it's a 50, 50 type thing. I like, this is what we said about the goal upstairs. I don't know what happened. Go upstairs. It was it. It was paling the goal. I went bananas on that. I was wrong about the oil. Yes. Yes. I think it is a rule. You got to make a call on the ice. Oh, you. You do. Okay. I think you do. Based on that. When it goes to replay, we need to have something that if it's not conclusive, we're going back to, but I'll agree with you that Dora Fia of like the confidence he had, like, Hey, that hit my stick. That didn't hit my glove, but I'm pretty sure. And maybe I'm completely missing this Puerto Rican brain. Did it not? Was it not in the end, not called a goal? Cause it was a high stick. That's what I thought. Okay. So what do you mean? No, that's what, well, Ray Ferraro said that the explanation that the ref gave towards was that it was because they didn't He didn't have enough evidence to overturn it. He didn't go pinkies up. He went thumbs up. Yeah. And that's the problem. How about the fact that that, you know, wind gets taken out of your sails, boom, we get a big one there, and it didn't even slow them down. No. It's not like they didn't lose their composure. Colorado went right back and scored to make it 3-0. So that swing. The Drury sickle. Oh, so that swing alone would have crumbled a mentally weak team. But once again, this Vegas team, they do not deviate. They don't get down on themselves. They don't start turning on each other. And just an incredible, incredible comeback. I mean, the minute they scored that first one, I'm like, oh, here we go. Here we go. And, I mean, you tweeted it out. I think it was right before playoffs about abs goaltending. April 1st. April 1st. Now, April Fool's. Now, Merles now wants to take credit for it. I know. Of course. Of course. I mean, what do we talk about? For people who don't know, I tweeted out, if you're not questioning the avalanche goaltending going into playoffs, you don't know puck. I got crushed. Considering they are the Jennings winners. The Jennings winners, right? And at the same time, I got to admit, I don't necessarily remember sending that tweet. It was late night. We were on another vacation. Shout out to vacation for the witness. You're like Hank Lockwood. This one's no kids, though. This one's no kids. So you guys know, you know, Keith, you know, vacation, no kids. You're on the work bench. It's a vacation on steroids. What? What? That's the only thing you packed. New sponsor. I'm not. Yeah, I'm not going to include that rouge yet. So I got and I'll go back to game two in this series. Like the barbershop goal after Eichel tied up. Eichel's goal was incredible. And Devon Taves, I didn't like how he played that. Like he had a guy in the middle. You're going at Taves for that? I thought Eichel won. I thought Wedgwood was off his angle. He was way off. Okay. I'm not all on Taves here. But dude, he's backing. He's backing into the middle of the ice. He had coverage in the middle. Malinsky had come back. There was a forward too. And Eichel. We're turning on him. Eichel slowed it down looking to pass. And then he's like, oh, wait, I got plenty of room. It was a perfect shot. Whatever. Angle off. The barbershop one, which people are telling me, you're ridiculous. That's bar down. It's like, dude, it's out. It's the top of the circles. He's on his knees. Yeah. I don't. I just. I don't know. I just can't believe the way Colorado gets out into that lead. And then their second period, like you, you, you game two, right? You got the one nothing lead. Everything's good. And Vegas takes over in the third. Well, this time you actually. And the lucky thing was in game two, Vegas in the second period was trash. They were so lucky to go into the third period down one nothing. This time you actually get three in the first. You win that call that could have gone the other way easily. And then that happens in the second. But I'll tell you, we've always talked about fresh ice on the power play in the second. Oh, yeah. And you're. That's a dream situation. And Marner, that pass. Now, mind you, also, Stone gets it. Stone comes back in the lineup, makes a big impact. His pinch on the Drury goal was the most belligerent pinch I've ever seen. He came flying in like a caveman. And I think. Was it Marner next to him? Like, what the fuck? All of a sudden, Drury buries. But Stone comes back and he taps. I mean, not hard work on that one, but that pass. And Biz, I didn't necessarily agree with you. That's when you were like, oh, this thing, they're coming back. You were that confident. Just on that one. Well, not only that, but because that Bluntman texted Yans in the group chat and he said, I think it was they were down three nothing. They said, Yans, I need you to put on the comedy network. Right. Is that what it is? Yans TNT because I was FaceTime and I'm the other day and I showed him my screens and he was like, why do you have TBS or TNT on? Because the games weren't on TNT. It was just like a random show. And so he made me turn my TV because I didn't. I only had just the one on. He made me turn the other. I only had the other one to TBS. So I got National Treasure with Nicolas Cage on up top left. Shout out, Nick Cage. Horrible actor. I think he's great. I'm just kidding. So top. And then I'm like, why? Why does this guy want me? And then he changed his hat in between periods, too. So shout out for him for going to buy another hat. But yeah, it's little things like that. The fandom when you're your team's down and he needed a win bad. Right. You're on the glass. Vegas flies you out there. Gets you tickets. It's like you got to show up. You got to show up for your squad. And he did. And I was so happy for him. When did he do the siren? And we'll ask him. After the second period. Oh, my God. Yeah, because they had the comedian Maniscalco. Is that how you say it? Yeah, Sebastian Maniscalco. Sebastian Maniscalco did it. And I don't know. Have they ever done a double siren? Or was that a special occasion for a comeback victory brought to you by Blood Man? They must do it every period, right? I don't know, man. I want to believe that it was just for Blood Man, but I don't know. They got him living for the rest of playoffs in the dragon. There's like a little there's a little caught up there. He looks like a dragon's keeper. Yes. Yeah. I and then it goes back like I mean, listen, it was a team effort. They have all hands on deck right now. Like a huge goal from Colasar in which Manson Manson was not happy. I guess you could say it was partially interference. Like what? He was the same. He was the same penalty that that Nelson had got called for. Yeah. So I didn't I had I agreed with Manson on that and just Manson just cross checking him. But then like Colasar's chirping him the entire way to the bench gets through the bench. Manson's right there. He's giving it to him again. It's a tie game. You're like Colorado is falling apart. Is there any worse feeling than when a fourth liner gets a goal on you and has the upper hand and chirping you? Never. And I remember a time I think it might have been. It might have been Jansen. He's like, you're so soft. And I was just like, oh, I want to fucking crawl to a hole right now. Like it is. But Manson isn't like Manson soft, but he got owned there. I mean, I do think, though, that if Nelson's getting called for that, it was the same thing. But I'll say the Chushkin we didn't even mention. He didn't play the final two to 22 minutes. McKinnon's obviously banged up now. He went out at the end. And what did we talk about also with Colorado and Merle's brought it up? Give Merle's credit on this one. Their power play. Their power play has not been good all year. And that's probably what's really killed them the most. That and the goaltending here. And Makar being out. I don't understand why they don't have Natchez on the side where Kadri is on right now coming downhill shooting. Like if Makar walks it, because a lot of teams are just taking away McKinnon, right? They're going to cheat up to him. So if he can walk the middle, then give it to Natchez coming downhill. Natchez has a shot opportunity or he's really good at making that seam pass over to Nate. Like Kadri kind of just gets it. He's not really a one-timer threat. He never really hits the one-timer and he just like gets it and holds onto it and just slows everything down. Like I would put Natchez over there and tell him, hey, dude, shoot pucks till you either kill somebody or you score a goal. He looked like he was drunk in the first a little bit there, Natchez. You see when he toe-picked, he like lost the stick battle, like toe-picked. That pass to Kadri was sick though. Oh, yeah. The saucer. Yeah. He totally made up for the toe-pick for sure. But also. The second goal. So Carlson makes it 3-2. Wedgwood. And I think it was the Sportsnet broadcast. They're like, he's punching it directly to the slot. Like that's a shot that he originally got. Was it Marner, I think, who just like that can be steered off into the corner. Maybe I'm not a goalie guy. No, it was a tough rebound. And luckily his own guy got it. Once again, is there a worse feeling than when like it comes out like that and you try to make it? He literally gave Carlson a one-timer. I think it was. Was it Kelly? I don't know. 17. Parker Kelly. Yeah, Parker Kelly. Yeah. He just put it on a tee for Carlson. And Carlson's kind of like, okay, fire it off. So it just felt like things were going bad to worse. And yeah, it was a snowball effect. You got to give Vegas credit too. Like, I mean, you mentioned it when Torts was flipping out. Like they don't panic at all. There is zero panic in their game. If they're down, they don't give a shit. And you saw it too with Jack. Jack getting his first goal in, I think, a month. Like how excited he was. Like he knew like we needed that goal. And then you see his teammates come over, how excited they are for him. Like this is a team that they know how to win, man. Like they proved they can play the fast games against Utah. They proved they can play hard games. Like this team's a real, real issue. And obviously, we're seeing it now with Colorado. And Colorado's obviously banged up what every team is. And I don't know, man. Do you think they get swept? Oh, yeah. It's over. I said it last night before the game. If they get swept, all right, so then there's a couple things we can go into. First, and Avs fans, you may hate us right now, but you got to look in the mirror. Look in the mirror. And if you were one of those Avs fans who was saying, oh, my God, you think this is going to be a series? Yeah, losers. You think we have any chance of losing? You got to look in the mirror. And it's not over yet, but you're inone.com. And when we go back to the statements about Makar, I texted the group when I immediately saw them. And I think Army agreed. Keith, you agreed. It was kind of, it was weird by Bednar. I feel like. Really? Dude, I don't know. All right. What's he supposed to say? He can't play right now. Say nothing. He didn't say shit. He's not able to play right now. And saying, by the way, dude, I love Bednar. Like that guy. Although I did see if he goes back to the shorter hair when they raised the cup. I know, but he's been ripping the bong too much. But he looks fucking. The guy's a complete stallion. He is. He's like, you know. kale's deciding when he could play kale's deciding when he could deal with the pain and I totally get what you're saying, Biz, but in terms of just brushing it under the rug and making it not even a story, was it not a bigger story than after the press conference? Buddy, when you keep getting asked the same question over and over, you finally have to. It's part of the patience you need. You've got to protect your guys, though. Take the Belichick playbook. Just have a cliche answer. What did he say that was wrong, boys? He didn't say anything that was wrong. He's saying it's clear that the player who's dealing with this knows his own pain threshold. Like, if he's got a bad chicken win and every time he goes out there and he's snapping the puck around, he's wincing and he knows that guys like. By the way, Vegas, I believe, right now has the top three hit leaders in all of playoffs between Cole Smith, Colasar, and Barbashev, who, by the way, as soon as Makar made his first pass to the game and it was on, Barbashev was like, oh! Right at the shoulder, he knew. I know, bro. He's licking. Okay, so Biz, like. With the ribs in his mouth. I think it was made to be more than it was, but it was just. I think there's a different quote that could be given, right? I think he gave all 60 other answers before that and then finally the fucking reporter asked him one more time and they're like, we got him. We got him. We got the story now. And. And. And also, if. Let's say you're. Let's say you're in that locker room, right? And you're like, obviously, we need this guy in order to win this series, which, by the way, Abs fans didn't think that that was the case. And you're maybe like, okay, he's got a bit of a separated shoulder. We're in this spot where we get a chance to win a Stanley Cup. Maybe that is him putting a little bit of pressure on his guy saying, hey, like, shoot that fucking thing up and fucking let's get her. Let's get her out of here. Okay. Which is kind of what I was saying. But I'm saying is, like, he never said it like that. All he said is, Cale knows his own pain. He knows what he's dealing with. Like, this is Cale's call, just like it would be anybody. Like, nobody's forcing anybody to put the gear on and get out there other than Bud Kilmer. No. He probably realizes, too, Bednar realizes, like, I know we can't win without this guy and I know I need him out there. Yeah. And. And. And. And what's, like, the. And if you're hurt, you're not even doing media, right? So Makar isn't going out and answering questions. So it's like, fuck, man. Yeah, I got to say something. Yeah, it was just. It's just as things got bad to worse after game two and then you got that and then the McKinnon injury. But we do have a special guest here. And before I. Before we. Yeah, I was going to say, before we get to him, do you want to. Considering we're scrutinizing every quote and we're dissecting it, do you genuinely believe that Mitch's quote is true? That Mitch's quote was directed at the Leafs or maybe. Or maybe even across the ice at McKinnon? I think if anything. If it was directed at anyone, talk about just pulling stories out of thin air, which is what we're doing right now. Oh, yeah. I truly think the answer is that he was talking about how much that group loves each other, which you can tell. And any team up 3-0 in the conference finals loves each other. How could you not? Yeah. But the way it was worded after seeing clips of McKinnon, very poopy pants in game one. Oh, yeah. Right? He kind of has the body language going that you could. Infer that it's like, well, that team, they do get a little mad at each other once in a while and we don't over here in Vegas and we're up 3-0 ready to go to our third fucking Stanley Cup final in nine years in the league. And I'll say this, the quote by Torts after last night, he goes, this is a game where we showed some balls. I want them to feel it for a little bit as far as what they just did against a really good hockey club, but then we get back to work tomorrow. And Torts, he. It was like the perfect job for him to come in right before. Oh, yeah. We're going to do a battle, right? We're going to get you into the war and then we're going to battle and I'm your guy and they must love him. Oh, yeah. Small doses. And how could you not? And right now, Blutman's going to come on, but I'll finish it off before he comes on with this. Since Torts came, this is a Gary Lawless tweet. Oh. Shout out Gary. Vegas is 18-4-1 in 22 games. 23, excuse me. They've scored 89 goals, best in the NHL since March 30th. They've allowed 50 games and 32 goals. Second best in the NHL since March 30th. Plus 37 goal differential since March 30th. The best in the National Hockey League. So, Blutman, come on. By the way, at the presser, too, he dropped his nutsack on the desk. His tan nutsack. I heard that. Is his nutsack tan, too? It's the most tan nutsack you've ever seen. Basically, it looks like dried up raisins at this point because of how much he's been tanning. But we've got to bring in. Oh, legend. Legend. What a run you've been on. Everything coming up, Blutman. From the start of the year, dude. Tell me right now, though, your thoughts as you get the on-the-glass seats from the team and you're down 3-0 in the first half. He was there before the same panic, dude. Yeah, yeah. I was there before anyone showed up. They let me in there so early to just see the whole place and, like, I got to see, you know, the castle dragging, everything's crazy. Down 3-0 after one. I'm just seeing tweet after tweet after tweet. And I'm just. I'm embracing it. I'm embracing every tweet I see. Blutman curse. What you're saying. People are saying the guy ejected me. The guy had to take me away from the arena. I've never said to eject you. I wanted you to stay. That was Army. That was Army. My bad. That was Colby. My bad. Pull up Witt's tweet. My tweet was great. My tweet was fucking insane. It was the next second. What was your tweet? You didn't even see it. My tweet was, holy shit, Blutman has completely mushed the abs. He changed the series. He's on the glass. And I think. I swear to God, I think Colorado. I mean, Vegas scored like 10 seconds later. I was like, holy shit, I've mushed the Blutman curse. They saw it on the tablet on the bench and they all showed each other and they said, we need to get going here. Fuck this guy. But like, we're down 3-0 after one and my thought was like, you knew you were going to get Colorado's best in that first period. It was going to be absolute desperation. You just didn't match it. But, I was depressed and everything but like, there wasn't ever a part of me that was like, this game's over. I texted you guys, I think, like, I think we can make this 3-2 going into the, into the third. I texted my, my buddies who root for Vegas, like, I'm not giving up on this one. I'm not giving up on this one. Stone scores immediately. I start doing this to Wedgie. And you changed your hat after one. And I changed the hat and you put a Comedy Central TBS on whatever. All the little things. This is the one thing that I'm not going to like winning a Stanley Cup is so difficult. You guys playing the game know and understand like how truly difficult it is. But there's so much more to it than every player on the ice. It truly does. Takes, it takes a village and we all got to play our part. I played my part in game three. Yandel, you play your part. Biz is doing his thing. You're doing your thing. I'm so sick of this fucking shit. I can't believe that this team, I can't believe, I cannot believe and you will not admit it, but if I told you they'd be up 3-0 in the Western Conference Final 23 days before the playoffs started, you would have said you're fucking crazy and you know it and you won't admit it, but why won't I admit it? Because you're a fucking lunatic fan, which I respect, which is what makes hockey so special. Look at the ad fans. They didn't even think this would be a series. They're, you're, everyone's lunatics. Look at when the Oilers are on. I almost had a fucking brain aneurysm when I was yelling about the no goal against the, this is ducks. This is fandom, but you have to understand that what's happened in Vegas, this is beyond like your, your wedgie little hand signal that you did. This is black magic. This is a Portnoy bet too. I was doing the Flames fans, the Odinger. It's just crazy. Like I, and showed out torts, but we haven't even really mentioned, I think Biz gave the stats, but they have, their goalie, he's the fifth fastest goalie in NHL history to 20 playoff wins. Like he's fucking unbeatable right now. I mean, so like what I had texted you, I'd say what two months ago, two and a half months ago in my group chat saying, I've lost all confidence. I've lost all hope. Everything switches when, when they fire Cassidy. And I, I, I gave them time. I wasn't going to like go straight into it. We beat Vancouver and Calgary. Who cares? It was beating you guys. It was beating Edmonton. I'll be it. Like you're not at your best and everything, but that was the first one where I'm like, we're finally playing a different game, a different style. There's some passion there. There's life. They had been so stale. They'd been, it'd been such a slog from January to the middle of March. And then we beat Colorado too. And I think the fourth or fifth game under torts and, and Colorado's got the, the league wrapped up on at that point. Right. So it's whatever, but that meant a lot to us. I think that the turning point in this, I mean, we haven't lost since, but the turning point in this post season has been game five against Anaheim is just completely stepping on their throat. They scored the late goal to force overtime. And that's Eichel cross crease, the door of Fayette and everything from there is changed. We've been dominant ever since clicking ever since. And bloody, you called it last night before the game, you said William Carlson goal. And Merle's has said also, he is maybe the straw that stirs the drink with this team. You miss so much. He looks incredible. That's like when Dave was getting all the hate on wake up barstool for the bet that's just that you remember this is why he says we're gonna get william carlson back he's coming back and then gary told us he wasn't sure and he played six hours later yeah gary gary you know shout out to mr lawless he had a crazy quote last night too i don't know if you saw that no what was it you gotta go to his twitter and find it because i don't remember it uh word for word but he was losing his mind on the door fee of no goal no no just at the end of the game i think he said holy fun okay gary's quote was i get paid to talk keep your money i'm speechless i've never seen anything like this wow that guy would take a bullet for that everything's just coming together and like and hurdle who's a laughingstock for 40 games i felt like that guy and malinsky who's a hell of a player he just bit outside and the best part about it is that he's not a player he's not a player he's not a player he's not a player wasn't the toe drag or the move laterally it was he ripped that backhand as he was still moving to the right it was like a one-time backhand it was like a dry saddle paddle bubble hockey paddle on a pass to himself another one where wedgewood's caught leaning and granted that was just an incredible goal but they got that with what eight minutes to go maybe 10 minutes to go and i was like oh my god they're gonna fucking do this and you must have just been going i i can't imagine the blotman heart rate which doesn't go above 85 usually they were grilling me about that when right before i was doing the siren the the guy who plays the night mask i was are you hyped are you like are you sure you're like they make fun of me for his all time my heart rate always stays the same but yes i'm very excited i'm very hyped up this is a big deal i understand it before hurdle scored i'd say it was a minute before hurdle scored i'm in the seats i'm just thinking myself i mean we're just gonna go to overtime and the only way that this story ends is if they score a goal and they score a goal and they score a goal and they score right in front of us and they start jumping into the boards in front with me and luki i thought that was the only way it was gonna end um it's just an incredible is that a common thing where somebody rings it before the third period too or without a special occasion ring because you were in the building so they do they do like a celebrity or an athlete for first period second period is uh a season ticket holder and third period is just anyone you're not just anyone you're not just anyone i mean i don't know if you guys caught the clip of blutman's pump up speech to the ucla football team oh yeah outstanding i signed up for pop i mean i could have ran through a brick wall after seeing that speech and so no surprise vegas gets it done in the third but blutman you'll appreciate this one i'm sure you might be aware but i don't know if biz and keith are um so they had 13 blocks in game three this article i read says that would give them 255 in the playoffs and 52 in this series i think it might be a little less based on the number of games they've played based on how i counted but that was the article in the athletic and it kind of became a story because torts was asked about his saying in the room he's like what are you talking about and they said the boys say that you said that it hurts more if it goes by you and he was hilarious he's like i never said that yeah he was stone faced i didn't was he lying or was he telling the truth well no it turns out john stevens had said it first like joking around almost but then the players took it as like a mantra and i don't know if john stevens was joking maybe like in a no buddy it it hurts a lot more seeing the red light go on unless you're mckinnon and it hits you and you can't play the rest of the game but they are blocking shots that is a tort staple right there dave king special too remember kinger loose pucks and ice bags loose pucks and ice bags especially especially if you're a pk coach right because like that's when you really have to block shots now buddy that vegas team they are one of the best team at fronting pucks and getting in and just eating them and eating them and eating them and that's why like you some of the moves they've made like people all of a sudden because they're so evil and people are like oh they got handed that team on a silver platter because of the expansion draft like people are just trying to drag this organization down and the more it's an easy to hate group is it's an easy i know but the more it happens and the more people hate and even these leafs fans still going after mitch like oh you never performed they're still fucking crying just let it go it'll feel better if you just let it go and embrace it it's it's it what it is is it's pure genius from management to the moves they made to the guys they brought in to things that other organizations wouldn't have done like carter hart probably could have been signed from other teams and people didn't want to go near well yeah what do they do they go they don't give a fine fuck jack eichel how how did they pull that one out of their ass they got that one done they just keep getting it done they keep getting it don't forget that there was probably some fucking tampering on that marner signing you remember all that noise you remember all that hundred percent your team but you know what they got him there was no penalty now in the process of this run have they lost the second round draft pick and don't care find 100k they don't care they're gonna get it back for letting cassidy talk to a team as blutman says he goes to draft picks don't matter they give us seven of them every single year and we'll keep moving them so at some point i'm pretty sure this team's gonna be horrible i don't know when but when it does happen we could celebrate drive but i can't not tip my cap right now i can't do it i have to be honest and through my hatred as business saying just just let it go and say i hate you so much but you're in that you're gonna be in the cup finals again nine years they're gonna be in three cup finals and if they go on to win mitch marner who right now is leading the con smith race i would say don't kid yourself i would say if he if he goes and gets that con smith and then gets the win i'm gonna be in the cup finals again nine years they're gonna be in the cup and brings it back to toronto that is something i can really get behind the script writers the script writers are exhausted they're gonna need a three like a four month layoff they shouldn't even start the start of the season actually they should get the first 15 games off and blutman when you're at that cup party can you apologize to him for me from the bottom of my heart i am so sorry for driving him out of toronto maybe he'll end up like the win will have him be like all right biz i don't care nothing he's thanking you what are we talking yeah no fire this guy's the happiest guy in the world uh blotman we have a couple of yeah itchy to make itchy for mitchy at the public saying we do have a couple other guests so i'll give you one final um word or rant or what you want to get off your chest leading into game four all right i i got my pillow here too where where one went away from truly being the uh pillow fight champions of the world uh everyone was saying that we've got this easy path whatever whatever i don't care colorado gotta play la colorado gotta play a team that might be ot merchants in minnesota that needs more free space on the ice doesn't matter to me uh this is incredible team there's been so many similarities to 2023 we've got the top three leaders and hits this postseason absolutely asserting our will asserting our dominance uh they're dominating the board battles all the puck battles on the boards this series they are dominating colorado i think that's a we just wanted more you mentioned the quote that uh stevens created i know dylan codlin has been using that a lot a few years ago it was hurts to win my thing you gotta be lucky to be good all these little mantras it takes a village we're all playing our part we're all doing our thing um last thing i want to say they're keeping colorado out of any high danger chances i don't care what the analytics say when you're what they're really not getting great nothing everything's out on the for carter and make saves i have to sing behind the glass it's crazy too i don't understand how these goalies do it there's so much traffic yeah it's how they see it it's unbelievable there's there's the um uh by the way cod al pacino quote in in and you gotta crawl that itch and then there's liam blutman signing off spitting chicklets after being up 3-0 and and one or one is they're the same thing last one i got for him um well by the way uh codlin uh he had an assistant plus two uh in 11 minutes played colasar uh colasar came up with a big goal i was gonna ask you from watching this team closely we know the big names and a lot of them have stepped up throughout this playoff but who's the one guy you don't think has gotten enough recognition who's almost like the unsung hero where you're like wow that was such a good ad or like who do you who are you like that's my that's my guy who hasn't been getting enough credit you can shout out right now i mean you've done it with doubter uh with what he's brought to the table someone who wasn't an acquisition it's just a day one guy brand mcnab i mean he was out for for a few games but that's a heart and soul player yeah uh when when i think about the cup team i think about alec martinez and all the pucks that he ate brand mcnab mcnab does the same thing having him out is such a big loss it's crazy that we were able to just win casually without him but the the presence that he makes you feel the hits that he'll lay like brand mcnab is just a hard and soul guy i i have to say him and um you know what lukey pointed this out too in warm-ups keegan coles are commanded the warm-up like he's never coming i can't do this i can't do this no no no i'm going full gary lawless if keegan coles are commanded the warm-up way it's something you gotta see him oh he was the guy that passed to the half moon oh yeah like oh get him out they were having congrats buttman get him off congrats family cup winning team to see it Thanks, guys. sorry real quick you mentioned the athletic uh 28 of their experts picked the avalanche one picked the knights so good for them no donkey okay all right bloody we got a cup to win show us the pillow what a guy if i'm at a closeout game i'm bringing a pillow yeah fuck yeah see you bloody i love you buddy thank you so much thank you so much great guy great just a ball of energy too you guys know bloody you love bloody how can you not even know if you hate your hate you can hate him yeah the hate is because they aim us we have trip trip tracy coming on right now this guy he must be feeling great after game two hey chicklets fans we're gonna take a quick break for a message from one of our partners it's fran from chicks in the office the weather is getting cooler and abercrombie's fall drop has everything i need for the season the best-selling anf sloan taylor pant is a closet staple for me i'm always wearing it to work events how do you feel about it i'm always wearing it to work events how do you feel about it i'm always wearing it to work events how do you feel about it i'm always wearing it to work events how do you anytime i want to be a bit more dressed up and the viral dylan dress is easy one and done perfection but my fall uniform will always be denim paired with a henley sweater a bra free top it's comfortable effortless it just never fails find your fall capsule at abercrombie shop in the app online and in stores all right now back to the show hey chicklets fans we're gonna take a 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screen right now because i gotta ask him about that old trip that overtime celebration with you and your guy and i'm gonna be honest with you i'm gonna be honest with you i'm gonna be and and correct me uh what's his name again i'm sorry but you guys were fired up and biz said you got credit for the couple hits on the sheet after that you got a score sheet well good to see you guys and um when they introduced the the booth cam you know i i mean i had no idea what turned into what it has and um just being myself and when i appreciate you there and that's a pretty darn good looking setup in puerto rico i mean i have all i have always um you know i've always you know jumped in the trenches with the hurricanes but i pride myself uh on being objective and you know i sit here and think about when keith yandall during his iron man streak i can't remember he was playing for florida at the time and he had to go get some dental work and i probably spent half a period when he returned in that game and rally singing his praises so i appreciate you saying that you know you're in puerto rico i'm thinking about the best player on montreal through two games it wasn't puerto rico but another sunny locale i spent a couple years in puerto rico consecutive days with josh anderson in the canes cool hit what a great guy oh can the canes cool him off i'll tell you they did well they didn't because he had those two huge goals in game two but they were able to come out with a win i want to ask you this the game game one and we haven't we haven't been on since game one so we have both games to talk about a meltdown but also like i totally got it like even though they scored quick like that many days off and slavin who never plays bad having the worst game of his life i get it and we'll get into that game but game two carolina dominated the game but once i saw the numbers some canadians fans are saying it wasn't as bad as it maybe looked on the stat sheet do you agree with that or do you think that was complete hurricanes domination um i you know i'm back here in montreal in the meal room right now and you know i haven't been in a playoff series here in 20 years and blessed to call a couple of really good ones in 2002 and 2000 2006 when the hurricanes ended up winning the stanley cup the first round they were down to nothing to these montreal canadians they started a rookie in cam ward when we came here and the reason i bring that up is because i thought that even though the hurricanes won in six it took until game five to to show a semblance of what their game should look like and you know that's what encouraged me most about game two is that the hurricanes game looked the way it was supposed to look uh um and you know i i probably put as much stock into that boys as i do with the fact that healers found a way to win in an overtime because you just don't have the runway to you know in the case of 20 years ago in my opinion wait until game five and so to see a look after the break after how poorly it looked especially defensively in game one to look the way it did in game two um that made and makes me hopeful that was probably one of the biggest storylines we talked about at the game two where the guys making the money for carolina had to step up right i think it's been a little underwhelming for ajo's fetch and i think that jarvis's game has picked up maybe the overall points haven't been there but for healers like that big off-season acquisition signing him to over 50 million and and him getting those two goals and and especially that ot1 he was very emotional after the game i guess his father had traveled in for the game and gave him some very encouraging words um uh before the game and i think that's something that i think is going to before hand before he left for the rink and he was he was he was very very emotional post game in that interview did he say what he what he said to him or no no he kept it between him he just basically said i think that that you know healers was like fighting it a little bit right he wants to contribute offensively he he loves this group of guys and even as we were doing the interview trip a few guys were walking by and they kind of just gave him that like grab on the shoulder and you could just tell this group really loves one another yeah you know boy healers and if you want to go back to the diaho line after biz because they're going to need to be particularly good on the road but i'll stick with with healers you know i remember either right before the hurricanes signed him and he chose carolina because he had some big time suitors i mean and certainly think you know right near the top of that list the washington capitals and you know that's a big moment that nicolai healers chose the hurricanes um and i remember paul maurice calling me because paul coached a lot of his career and paul told me he said he's going to be a perfect fit and the other thing that paul told me and i think he referenced i don't know if it was a regular season game or a playoff game but he said trip he has no problem when there's no room and things get physical and he referenced i think that healers when he was a jet challenge ryan gets left at one point in time and you know so you know what i've liked most about nicolai healers is a carolina has has had a an abundance of trouble scoring big goals at big times and specifically historically in eastern conference final but i've watched in the playoffs so far when teams try to get physical on him he responds immediately and his game seems to elevate so he's been a perfect fit um and it was on display for him to have that emotion and talking to your turner crew after the game biz and to do it with his dad there was a coach in switzerland heinz i believe is his name has been a forever coach and really a dainty coach and he's been a great coach and he's been a great coach and he's been a great legend but to do it in front of the the huge canyx was was visibly meaningful to a guy that's fit in beautifully and another thing too like to not complain that he's on the third line like i love how they're able to distribute and and you know they got two snow plows on that line and martin hook and stall guys who can create space win the board battles but like for him to be put on that third line and not bitch it seems like that's a that's a pretty selfless thing right for a guy who's making that much money and who's probably played top six most of his career and quickly quickly trip i just want to mention i was surprised that they went to stall against suzuki in game two they didn't have it in game one it was a kind of soft aho it wasn't a hard line matchup they go to stall and i'm like oh geez which by the way stalls 37 years old he's a beast and and the way brindamore talks about him he calls him jordo which cracks me up jordo yeah jordo you know what you're getting from him but i think that's going to be a lot tougher than suzuki aho's line like i'd much rather that if i'm them than the way stall can just clog it up well you may be in san juan or wherever you are whip it to dial i'm buzzing you're buzzing i'm buzzing and and so two quick things number one i don't know if i shared it with you guys before but what a story vegas is when the hurricanes were in vegas in october and the dealers was just about pointless i know he was goalless in october in october paul stastny i have supreme respect for his hockey iq and for him flat out as the first and played with healers in winnipeg he sent me a text in october and said tripper i think that the best fit for healers is going to be with jordan stall and jordan barden and he explained why that was in october so is when paul stastny says something to me you know i think you guys have either had ej or you're going to have ej on i i got to know guys like eric johnson paul stastny and a colorado minnesota series i did about 10 years ago for nbc and stastny Disney's IQ is through the roof. So was he dead right? You bet he was. said that in October and with regards to the Ajo line that's why I think it's time it's got to be time right now because if I'm Marty San Luis with last change you know I am I'm getting the Suzuki line away from Jordan Stahl and you know Sebastian Ajo along with Jarvis and Svechnikov I actually thought they're better the two games was game one in that route from Montreal they were the one bright spot they're gonna have to be complete period end of story if especially if they spend a good amount of time against Suzuki, Caulfield and Slepkovski. I was just gonna say the you know you guys held Montreal to five shots through two like when you look at a Carolina team and you know that they're playing well they're playing the way that they need to do to win it's the shot totals they're gonna get way more than the other team they I think they finished with 12 Montreal finished with 12 but like you think they can do that? on the road in a building like Montreal because it's a little bit tougher when you have last change you know to do it at home is a little bit easier but to do it on the road you think they can go out and do that tonight? No as a matter of fact I spent some time with Rod Brindamore and several members of the coaching staff last night when we arrived here in Montreal and I know they anticipate that Montreal is going to have a higher shot volume and Keith my hope is that that's going to be a very good thing for Frederick Anderson I mean I look at game two in particular you know you almost have to have played the goaltending position to just recognize just how incredibly hard it is when you're not seeing any shots you're looking down and you know if you're not mentally strong you're like I don't want to be the weak link your mind can become the instantaneously the biggest enemy and within that third period I know Josh Anderson tied the game but Freddie made some quality saves and so I'm hoping Keith that that's going to be a good thing for you as you're on the road because yeah I think like Rod Brindamore anticipates that that shot volume is going to be higher. I couldn't believe Svechnikov before game two um said we were completely dominating them and we're going to dominate them. Yeah that was a confident quote. I was like whoa and then they went out and they they they did I mean they got to win now the slot shots as I read it was nine to seven Carolina so in terms of like the shot number it was a little different like grade A scoring chances but another guy my guy who was all over me after I picked Ottawa to win then he texted me all over biz after Taylor Hall he has now taken out Sanderson in the Ottawa series Sanheim in the Philly series and he gets Hudson with a good one now Hudson's good he's already on the ice he was on the ice his standard 30 minutes before the Canadians this morning but he's got that physicality to his game right now okay boys you know and how many private conversations have we had okay for years now about the Hurricanes you know at this time of year need to get heavier they need to get tougher individually and as a group and so far I haven't liked all these games one and two like I beyond loved you know every game against Ottawa and Philadelphia um to the point where he almost he got taken off that line for a couple shifts I noticed yeah he you know if I were to stall line and then this x factor of a fourth line where you remember every millisecond that jankowski carrier and robinson are on the ice with that being said even within i need to see a relocation of stan coven blake and hall here on the road tonight thus far he is the sam bennett of the playoffs for carolina where he's not going to win any publicity contest contest with opposing fans but is it desperately what carolina has needed you bet your ass it is and so i mean i i'm i think taylor hall has i think i've spoken to you guys about it before professionally personally he's already become and approaching 30 years one of my favorite hurricanes and that heaviness that sandpaper the fact that he's public enemy number one he's sam bennett of the playoffs so far and i happen to be completely in love with that because it's been lacking in years past another guy who's impressed me a lot and you know if you look at their back end you're probably not going to think of him first but chatfield and yeah i was gonna play that the play that he made in in the overtime game just recognizing that montreal needed to change the um i think it was captain who didn't get it deep he just makes a nice little simple play getting it up but he's been awesome all playoffs and i just want you to stroke him off a little bit with how good he's been for that that group because he's not a lot of he's not a guy that gets a ton of love he often leads their team in ice time which i found surprising too i think he was plus three with two assists in game two as well uh the veterans that you guys are and i you know i'm gonna tell jaylen when i get on the bus to go to the hotel what you said keith because not alone not let alone from a former player but a defenseman i mean that's the strongest compliment that one can receive jaylen chatfield uh the biggest praise that i can give jaylen he's a pure michigander he's from michigan like me is that every game that he plays he's a pure michigander he's a pure michigander he's a pure michigander i don't care if it's in the preseason or here the conference final he's trying to prove that he belongs in the national hockey yeah and that is the most impressive thing this is a great athlete like a tremendous athlete that had a tremendous bounce back game and jacob slave and that's his partner but every game that chatfield plays with his preparation and his intensity aside from his god-given talents he's playing like he needs to show everyone that he belongs in the national hockey league and he's a pure michigander he's a pure michigander he's a pure michigander you know carolina had a terrific start to that overtime period and if i had any concern it if montreal was going to win in overtime it was going to be early and right from the stall line and the opening face-off of overtime the hurricanes dominated the overtime period and jaylen chatfield just did not allow captain and company to take a breath you know you got a couple defensemen including dobson going for a change he makes the play i mean jan collarski finishes this shift in ideal fashion to get it to healers kneelers ends the night but um jaylen chatfield wasn't available along with another righty and sean walker in the conference final against florida last year you know that's the stanley cup championship florida team with the series have been different nobody will ever know but i know you didn't have a chance when you didn't have chatfield and walker on the right side let's talk about i want to talk about slave and just a little bit more because like he was like he ate it the game one and then has an unreal bounce back game and i jackie redmond interviewed him after the game and you don't often hear a lot of talk about their faith and like he's pretty open about it and i would imagine being around him he just seems like the the like the perfect person like a type of guy you want on the team and i just want you to talk about like what what it's been like being around him and and a guy who's obviously one of the best defensive defensemen in the league and to have a bounce back game like that contribute offensively and uh and then have a post-game interview like that uh biz i'll tell you a story i don't share very often um but just over four years ago i was in the league and i was in the league four years ago and april 2022 i missed a game uh drinking in new york i haven't had a drink since the hurricane stood behind me and uh i flew back to raleigh jacob flew with the team they won the division that night at madison square garden he flew back with the team i stayed in new york and jacob slavin offered to fly back uh by himself to fly back to raleigh with me that's the type of guy from hockey he has been very central in my journey with regards to faith but as an analyst i think just as an analyst i think that it is a colossal part of his defensive greatness i mean here i am in montreal where you know he really put himself on the map in the four nations with the first couple of games being in montreal before going to boston and because his faith is so he has an element of self-belief in his abilities that after a game that i simply haven't seen from number 74 as a hurricane in game one just as an analyst that faith and depth to his self-belief allows him to grab the moment and not let the moment grab him so just breaking it down as an as an analyst that faith and depth to his self-belief allows him to grab the moment and not let the moment grab him on on most nights awesome i i love hearing that because it's all about taking away time and space and then the first time you see him live you're like i think he's one of the fastest skaters in the league like i people would love to see him in the league but i think he's one of the fastest skaters in the league and i think he's one of the fastest skaters in the league and i think he's one of the fastest skaters in the league and i think he's one of the fastest skaters in the league um i'm wondering what you're seeing is it gripping the stick because once it starts going bad it snowballs a little like as an analyst as you mentioned what are you seeing that's that's different from his usual game i i don't think that listen he's one of the fiercest competitors that i've ever seen yeah he's got some rat in him too which is pretty good and which i love and he you know but i think there is another level and i think you've gotten to the point where it has to be there tonight and when i look at sebastian like i just looked at the face-off numbers of of game two and suzuki was 50 percent dino was 50 i would take that for the rest of the series and run for the hills when you look at the lefty and dino and the righty and suzuki i bring that up because sebastian ajo when he plays his best games how he does in the face-off circle is a direct barometer as to whether or not he's going to be on the score sheet you whether or not he's going to be complete and when he has played his best best games i mean he's he's a minimum of 55 in the face-off circle and when he's really rolling he's north of that he was in the 40s in game two i didn't mind his game one and if he draws suzuki if marty san luis wants that his mindset has got to be i'm not thinking about points there is going to be no cheat in my game it's a successful night if we keep that line off the board and i always believe when you don't have cheat you produce more offense and so that's five on five i did think that the hurricanes power play the one they had in the second and then the third period took some positive steps but i think there's a lot more room for guys like al whoever's got the puck on the goal line for his group to attack the puck on their toes without hesitation as to see which power play is going to get going first in this series so that's just touching upon what i'm looking for at five on five um and also on the power play it seems like he has the most confidence in any dimension right now shorthanded seems like he's created more chances shorthanded with jarvis than he has in the other dimensions of the game i think we've gotten to a point where he needs to be sebastian ajo this is the team that um you know the offer sheet was involved he has a history against montreal producing the time's got to be now in my opinion the last one i had is just like obviously if you get to the conference finals that's going to be a lot of work but i think some point in time you have to have depth step up and you mentioned them earlier that jankowski robinson and and carry a line like that they are unbelievable and you know they're a team that if you look most nights they're in the 11 minute range and every time they go out there and they make an impact obviously they rewarded jankowski they just re-upped them but what is it about them that how are they able to have such good chemistry and and really if they you know they have a few bad shifts ronald throw them out there and they're going to be able to do a lot of good things out there and they're able to turn the tide it seems like most times they go out there and they've obviously been producing offensively for this run well i think uh collectively biz that they can feel the trust and uh the value from the coach i think that's a factor and i looked at the sheet after the first period after the second period after the third period and then when i went home on saturday night and i swore they played more that's how that's to what degree i remembered every millisecond of every shift that they had so quickly touching on all three guys will carry it i mean my gosh has he been good when he won the stanley cup with vegas no doubt about it hands down his best series was the conference final against dallas where i thought he was a huge part of the golden knights even get into the final where they beat florida so he's got a history in conference final he's got it's a classic story that will carry a has said even his wife being from quebec is rooting for the montreal canadians he's been outstanding eric robinson i still think is scratching the surface when you look at his size his speed ultra likable teammate um i like the fact that he's shooting in stride from a distance here uh so far in this series with the flies he flies and i i i like on on dobish i like that blocker location um you know he scored there in game one that's where ehler scored that's where jarvis scored jordan stall hit the post but uh you know robinson recognized oh about a week or two from free agency that the toss isn't greener because i think he would have made more in free agency but it's tough to be in a spot where a coach believes in you like rob brindamore does and eric robinson i think eric robinson realized that what a signing that was speaking of signings i thought it was really smart to extend jankowski between series because he has had a ton of chances he's had two goals taken off the board so far in these playoffs and you never know you guys played the game you'd know better than me but signing him extending him which i think is a great value for the hurricanes might settle those hands now that that's taken care of just enough that that could be the difference now that that extension is in place so i thought that was really smart by the hurricanes in his particular case to get the swiss army knife that he is extended between the second and now the conference final trip we appreciate it buddy um legend it's going to be a good one and and jankowski i mean he won the uh he won it all at providence i remember seeing him then and you know it's like this kid's good and he's changed his game to be in the nhl but a hell of a player and the team looks good but we'll see what happens at the bell center montreal's two and four and the i mean the canes haven't lost on the road yet so we'll see if uh that stays true or montreal can flip it we appreciate it buddy i might have to come find you in the press box and get a couple shoulder checks get on the score sheet tonight trip biz do that thank you for having me guys and have a great day you're the best trip um see you trip before we get to eric johnson quickly i just wanted to talk capitan's out tonight so it's already been announced i think it sounds like valeno's coming back in but i was i was reading the part of the press conference after game two that was interesting it was in french um a reporter asked saint louis about kind of the line that was out there for overtime it was short in the bench doc and capitan now they were out there for the goal against in tampa they were out there for the ot winner against tampa game six and then it happens again and i guess so so saint louis said i don't know but why are you asking me that and then the reporter mentioned like well you had the fourth line on the ice and either scored he's like yes they were out there and then he just got up and left so like marty wasn't happy with that i think they mentioned it was the last question okay that wasn't in the article that was coming but hey don't let they don't let the truth get the truth get in the way of the story a little salt and pepper on this bad boy yeah and then he spiked a water bottle in his face the one that he grabbed from the bed and he was like oh my god i'm gonna die i'm gonna die i'm gonna die i'm gonna die it was a body armor water bottle by the way um but here's another thing too and i think this was brought up like like they had fucking 12 shots on net like it's not like anybody was going that unbelievable and the fucking bottom six for montreal has been tremendous so far in this playoffs like give me a break right so yeah but you do but capitan scored 22 goals he hasn't looked like he's a little a fish out of water i think in games and then that that play like i think it was out of time like i didn't get it deep in ot dude yeah it's that's a soft play right there but also to be fair in like earlier in the playoffs when doc made that mistake they after game two and they lost they stuck with it coming home so i would i don't listen obviously it's like it's a different player and maybe there were other things over the course of that game or the first few games where he was like trying to tell him and still made the same repeated mistake but you going back to the little bit of contrast in the sense of reinstilling that confidence in a guy who made a mistake to now all of a sudden another guy's coming in but i think that one like you can tell like he heard footsteps and he kind of got a little shaky instead of like you can tell as like a you know player he just kind of got a little shaky and heard footsteps tried to get it in like that has to get in but you know what we haven't talked about is the blake toe pick like wait you love it you love it it was right before uh the anderson goal and then halls he turned it over blake was skating up the ice blatantly by himself that's right on the two on two it was an all-time toe pick i was glad they ended up winning the game because no one wants to be on that uh that side of it but a good toe pick i thought uh i know you and scuds love a good toe pick and anderson by the way that was like the sign of like what is ajo doing anderson made ajo look like a 10 year old like a bitch in front of the net on that tying goal and ajo tried to hit him yeah that's not the play i don't think you're trying to hit anderson just go stick on stick but fridge guys a mutant hey if you go back to the eelers goal to the first one by the way that was a fucking nasty goal it looks like he almost toe picks but the fact that he's got a stick on the ice it's almost like he uses it to stay up like if you go back and re-watch that it looks like he hits a rut and his toe goes into the ice but he's able to keep his footing and and he goes right between the wickets on caulfield and then slides at five hole and do this show incredible goal incredible game by eelers but boys we need to uh we need to go to our next guest and essentially write an obituary oh man that's gonna hurt him hey chicklets fans we're gonna take a quick break for a message from one of our partners on game day get sub stacked high at jersey mics like the number 13 original italian loaded with meats cheese and toppings or the number 56 big kahuna cheese steak with grilled steak peppers onions and mushrooms topped with jalapenos and melty cheese get your sub fix on game day and order in store or the jersey mics app all right now back to the show let's bring in our guy what a setting i thought i had a good setting holy shit taking a page you look like an absolute retired legend right now uh yeah just i was in santa barbara boys just uh little atv and a little avocado picking life is good retirement he's making his own mezcal i'm in puerto rico i'm in puerto rico you're picking avocados and where is that cali yeah montecito um nice you know what he sounds sad he sounds sad he is no planning a golf trip for the no i think i think the horses are cheering him up you must be doing something with the horses there yes yes yes going to santa nita today boys i got malar chuck named after malar chuck today in the santa nita gold cup so i'm gonna great name for a horse dude that's awesome we got to know clint yep he's by nyquist so he's got a he's running today at santa nita so i'm gonna pop down to santa nita for the afternoon and hopefully hopefully cheer him home but uh yeah i am a little down for it right now for sure that's uh that's not how you draw it up through the abs and it's like i can i could see how like you could maybe give him a pass if it's just a four to three loss or five to three loss but when you're up three to nothing like that like and then you lose with scoring five straight like that's that's a tough way to lose right like that's that's tough like their their their heart got ripped out of them last night i don't see how you recover and and bednar said everyone's just so down in the room obviously but i gotta go on the other side to you as a guy who played for torts um is this not the perfect situation for him coming in and just like he's gotta flip it you gotta get into the playoffs first but there's not gonna be the camp tortorella there's not gonna be the 82 game grind it's just like him back in the boys it seems and you dealt with him in a different way but do you not see how this fits in perfectly with like his personality and persona as a coach absolutely and i think i've talked to him a little bit down the stretch and i'm sure you've heard him say it in the media but in philly he kind of had to babysit a little bit right young team guys that didn't know how to navigate themselves through the league and he steps into a proven bonafide winning team that just needed a a little bit of direction to steer the ship and that's what he's done and his presence in front of a team is so mesmerizing like when he speaks you're just like and as far as i'm concerned like you are so locked in on what he's going to find him so fascinating to listen to when you go into a team like he has in vegas they just needed a little like a little tweak in the right direction and and i think he can wear out his welcome in certain situations but i don't see it happening because even if he's there long term he he's a guy that trusts the players if he's if they're in a situation where he's they've earned his trust and i think those guys have based on what they've done in the past ej do you think it has something to do with him being a like him him going into the olympics and being an assistant coach and not having to be the head coach and just being a guy to you know be the shoulder or lean on whatever but it seems like every guy when we talked to them after the olympics like dude he was unbelievable as an assistant coach like was there making jokes having fun like you think it changed him a little bit or he's still the same guy i think he's the same guy but i don't think he's the same guy he was 10 years ago 20 years ago like as as a player you have to evolve your career and as a coach you're no different so what i think is is so amazing is he's he found a way to stay sharp while he i mean let's face it a month ago a little over a month ago he's you know eating hot dogs on the espn panel with right and now he's coaching a team to maybe one went away from the stanley cup final pretty pretty incredible i don't think anyone sucked towards coaching the nhl this year especially when he got hired and i'm i'm really happy for him because i know he was still hungry for this and you can tell he's pushing all the right buttons and his voice is not wearing out i mean these guys clearly love playing for him it's obvious so i gotta ask you because you played for bednar and people were trying to make a little bit of his quote uh with kale mccarr and and and how he phrased it about saying it's basically kale's decision now what did you make of that i thought personally it was a bit of a nothing burger that spiraled out of control what do you think knowing bednar and obviously knowing kale mccarr i agree biz i think this time of year media is trying to find absolutely anything to run with right i mean i think you know they're trying to make something out of nothing there do i think that the abs were saying maybe to themselves or in the back of their head like let's go kale we might like we need you here like maybe i don't know that for sure i'm just guessing but i think i don't think bednar was trying to make a big deal out of it in the media wrong place wrong time not how he operates so for me complete nothing burger like you said but at the same time i think they were thinking like if we're going anywhere we need you you know maybe that's the obvious but maybe you miss the start of next season because you get a little bit of time to think about it but i think that's the obvious you know maybe that's the obvious but maybe you miss the start of next season because you get a little more dinged up right now who cares those aren't going to win without kale mccarr and you could tell obviously by watching last night he's probably 70 75 percent at best but if that yeah and but that's better than a lot of guys best right so i think what a what a steep hole to climb out of i mean they're all but done but you never know right i mean if a team can come back and and win it's it's these guys but probably no natushkin probably no mccarr do they go to blackwood or sorry not no mccarr but not a hundred percent mccarr do they go to blackwood do they stay with wedgwood i mean a lot a lot of balls up in the air right now tough tough uh tough sledding at ageland right now one one thing i just want to quickly say is so you saw what marner said after the game about how the group stays positive regardless of what situation they're in and you know sometimes it's easier said when you're when you have all the confidence in the world and everything is going your way i do feel like the abs are a little tight and they're not really dealing with their adversity as well as as vegas is does sometimes nate's intensity maybe rub guys the wrong way and force other guys to maybe grip their sticks a little tight like i know we love him for his intensity and what he brings but do you think that that if if they end up losing and getting beat out here in the conference final do you think that's something that they maybe have to evaluate and work on in order to get themselves back to winning another cup in the near future great great question and i think for me nate's not going to change and i think that's part of what makes him great as as you all know but they have enough counterbalance in that locker room to to level that out and i think a lot of it gets overblown with nate because he's not just going to hide it in the public eye he's not going to hide it because he's on camera or anything like that but he can really uplift you and be a lot of layers to nate that a lot of people don't see and he's not just yelling and screaming at guys all the time you know he's he's picking guys up when they're down too so i think they have landis gog and burns and manson and nelson and all these guys that can i can do that for nate but he's just a guy that wears his heart on his sleeve but i think you're looking at the abs now and you're looking at their core like they're getting a little bit older here like how how big is their window i don't want to say it's closing but i think they're getting a little bit older here but it's not opening right so yeah they're still in the window to win but i mean this is just shot you're so shocking to me like you if they if they lost in seven which you know that's that's a that's a stretch right now to happen but if say say it was a back and forth you know teams traded wins and you know went one one two two three three and they lose okay so what but when you get swept like this and lose game three like you did last night i mean a lot of questions have to be asked and they've already played shake up the core card with ranting and right so they've they've played that card what's the next card they play if they still feel like their windows open which i think it is but what do they do is it is it the coach is it another core shake up are they trying to tweak around the edges with guys i don't know they've revamped their goaltending they traded ranting and what's the common denominator i think jared badner is one of the best coaches in the nhl he gets scooped up in one second if he gets fired but well where do they go from here if they get swept or lose in five or whatever you know i mean it's it'll be interesting to see what happens like as in you think maybe they need a little bit more tougher love kind of like vegas just got i don't know what it is exactly i think i think jared bednar is a heck of a coach but at that at the same time if you go through the window of lauskog mckinnon and mccarran you only get one cup in that whole avalanche era of their greatness i i think that's a failure right and i i don't pin it on bednar i think he's an awesome coach but where do they go from here if they lose in the conference final which it looks like they probably will you never never say never you know they could go on a historic comeback but what's the next move i'm interested to hear what you guys think there too because um i don't know you played the franchise player card like you did with ranting and you shake up the core you know they've done everything what's next well the carl situation that's what everyone's talking about yeah that's merle they're saying he's gonna coach both teams i don't see that happening i'll see carl come down merle's saying that oh my god you bednar's like Like, oh, Carl doesn't have to move, and he takes over. Seems a little crazy, but you never know. I do think that this one's different because, yeah, like, Rontan, it's gone. They've made all these moves. But, and Blutman said it, our guys, there's so much luck. You went through this. There's so much luck that you need to have to win a Stanley Cup. And Makar, he's been banged up since before the playoffs. Now McKinnon's injured. Now, granted, it was in a game where they're trying to stay alive in a series. And there's just a bunch of, like, bad luck that it seems like they've dealt with, at least in the playoffs so far. So you're looking at it like, well, if Makar is healthy, we're a completely different team. Or is it just like everyone's battling injuries and we have to shake something up again? That's the question that'll be asked. But I just can't believe, and I know you, Avs fans didn't think this would be a series. Like, a lot of them. Shouldn't put everyone under the same umbrella. And I was like, I don't see how they're this confident going into this, the way Vegas has looked. Even though it was the Ducks. And Utah. Yeah. And I want to mention one other thing. You need goaltending in the playoffs. And if you get the hot hand, like Vegas has gotten with Carter Hart, I mean, his numbers are ridiculous. And that was the one thing missing from Vegas all season long. All their metrics were top 10 throughout the entire league. They had the second worst or the worst five-on-five save percentage until Carter Hart came back. So they were just missing goaltending. And they got Hart. And the other thing Torts does is he can empower you and give you a ton of confidence. And that's what he's done with Carter Hart. I know he went in there and said, Hartsy, you're my guy. You're our number one guy. If we're going anywhere, it's because of you. And you could totally tell Carter Hart's playing. Like, he knows how valuable he is to that team. And that's what Torts can do. He can tear you down, but he can also build you up. And so, yeah, I mean, it's, I didn't think it would be a sweep or Vegas in five, which is looking like that's probably, what it's going to be. I mean, I thought Colorado would win in six, but Colorado's not getting the saves. Vegas is. Colorado's power play has not looked good. And McCarr's at 70%. And now you're probably looking at no McKinnon next game. I guarantee you he feels worse right now this morning than he did, as you guys know, than he did last night. That's not something Norma Techs are going to fix. No, exactly. He went in, got the shot, tried to come out. But I don't know if you saw the play when he came back and he got the puck coming out. He got out of his zone into the neutral zone and he's usually gone and in two steps. I mean, he was like swallowed up by the Vegas attack. Like you could just tell he didn't have that separation and that burst. Like he for sure took it on top of the knee. And if it's a fractured kneecap or patella or something, like you just, you can, I've had that. It sucks. You just, you don't have, you have nothing. If that's what it is, I'm speculating, but. Even a deep bone bruise, it's awful. Yeah, same thing, right? You can't even put the weight on it. It's it's. And yeah, his pop is what makes him like so dominant. It's just, it's crazy. It's crazy what's happened. So you're going to be traveling for the finals with ESPN, correct? You guys are going to be on the road. Yep. Yep. Okay. So you're, I'm sure you're going to be fired up. Now we do have to get to a rollback last question, but I'll ask one right beforehand. You mentioned. Well, let me do it before your question, buddy. Well, mine's not hockey related. So if you want a hockey one. Okay, sure. Go ahead. That's okay. Hey, Chicklets fans. We're going to take a quick break for a minute. We're going to take a quick message from one of our partners. Hey, Alabama. 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He's got an incredible story of resilience and what he's doing now with the ranch and helping former military. Anybody who's really struggling, get through whatever they need to. R.A. actually went there for about 10 days. You mentioned you have a horse named after him. How, what's the backstory to that? Yeah. So we bought this horse last July out of an auction and his, his sire, his father is Nyquist and the guy bought him with his name's Paul Reddick. He owned Nyquist and Nyquist won the Kentucky Derby. And so Nyquist has turned into one of the best stallions in the world. And so this horse came up for sale. Paul likes to buy sons of Nyquist since he raced Nyquist and, um, asked me to take a, a quarter of share in the horse. And I did, and he, he battled some injury issues when we bought him in July, but now he's coming back and, uh, doing pretty well. So, so we're optimistic today and he's the morning line favorites. So, uh, $200,000 pot, and we're hoping to take it home. And, and, and is like, because he's battled through these injuries and he's on the other side. Is that why you named him Millard Chuck? Sorry. Sorry. He was already named. Yeah. Someone named him, bought him out of a sale, named him Millard Chuck with the Nyquist hockey tie-in, excuse me. And, uh, so we just bought him after he was named. Someone put him in a sale after he had raced and we, and we, we bought him and, um, the name, it's a great name. Uh, and, uh, we, we hope that, uh, he's got a big, uh, big summer in him. Maybe it's Saratoga and Delmar. I am so intrigued by all the horse stuff. Like I follow Dave Portnoy online. We got to get Portnoy and EJ connected. Oh yeah. EJ's diehard. And obviously Dave's huge into the ponies, but you've been crushing her on McAfee. And I saw one of the, I think it was a clip on there where, or maybe somewhere else, somebody asked you like, oh, as your horse, like won the Derby or something. You're like, that's like asking a golfer if he's like won the masters. I don't think people understand how, like the levels it takes and the obviously same with the cup. The luck it takes. Well, there's only 20 that run and you have to do it before you turn four. Only three-year-olds. So you get one shot at it. You're a three-year-old Colt or a Philly. They do run Phillies in it, but you're, you have one shot. You have one shot. Are you able to get into the race based on obviously prior races and placing or winning like almost a circuit to get into the Derby? It didn't used to be like that where now you have to qualify for the race. Exactly. It used to be based on earnings. Now it's a tiered point system. So there's races from October up until the Derby where you qualify with points and the top 20 horses with the most points get in. So if you finish first in a big race, you'll get 50 points. If you finish second, you'll get 20. If you finish third, you get 10 and then, you know, the top 20 with the most points qualify to get in. So it's, it's tough. It's, uh, you know, they say the, the best way to become a millionaire in the horse business is to start with a billion. So that's what Dave. Portnoy says. He's like, I'm poor for this game. Oh yeah. The amount of money these guys have. So that's where the luck comes in. Now what is my large truck? A two year old. He's five. He's five. So he's, yeah, he's, he's an older horse, but they're in a senior tour. Exactly. What real million dollar races he can win, uh, down the road here, but it's, it's called the Hollywood gold cup and, uh, it's at Santa Anita. It's in the fifth race today. So, so I'll be there. I'll be there live on site. I I'm pumped. I can't wait. The, the quote. From McAfee, where I was like, damn, this could be something I'd like try to get into, but I'd be like running Greyhounds because I can't afford horses was like to see your horse coming around the turn and winning a race is like the feeling you would get from scoring like an OT winner or a game winning golf, like in your own career. I can't, I can't relate it. Close enough. Like these two things. And you guys all know you score a huge goal in a big moment. You get in a big fight. You take a, you know, you win a huge game. It is so cool. So close. If you have the horse bug and you love horse racing, it, I can't even describe how close the feeling is to, to the same as scoring a goal or like literally winning the Stanley cup and then seeing your horse when it's like some people have the exact same feeling. I mean, the cups a little bit better, but that adrenaline rush between the, the two sports is, is, is amazing. It's, it's a, it's a adrenaline junkie sport for sure. And it's a team sport too, right? It's not just the horse and the jockey out there. Like everyone's. Always. Thanking the trainers, thanking the owner. Like it's a complete team effort. Just like I could go down the line. Yeah. And it's about how many people it takes to get there from the boarding farm to the vet, to the van company, to, uh, the trainer, to the groom, to the blacksmith, to the chiropractor, to the jockey, to the jockey agent. I mean, you could go down the list of people. I mean, it's a multi-billion dollar industry and it's, it's supplies so many jobs around the country and it's. It's the oldest sport in America and, um, you know, it's, I try to get people involved in the game and it's, you gotta love it though. I mean, it's, it's, you're going to have your pitfalls and it's a money pit, but it's a, it's a total blast. So when you say the money pit, I mean, you made, you know, just about 65, $66 million in your career. Have you put like a cap? All right. I could spend this much on horses and then that's it. Like I try not to think about it. Okay. Smart. Smart. I shouldn't have brought that up. Yeah. Yeah. We got good accountants. Yeah. All right, EJ, you're the man. The wife gets the Hermes bag. You get the hoofs. And no surprise, buddy, as ESPN has the finals, you've come on like a lightning bolt with the coverage, dude. You're really good at it. No surprise. Thank you. Good luck in the finals and with the race today. Thanks, guys. Appreciate you. See you, buddy. You're the best. See you, Horn. Good luck today. Big Horn. What a guy. Great guy. Great guy. He's all into the pony. What a setup. He's on a beautiful golf range. He's going to the racetrack today. Jesus, Biz is sitting in the hotel. Some guys get it all. I know, man. You got the big rope. And some guys are hockey daddies. Hey, what he said it takes to get a horse ready, it sounds like Biz getting ready to do a TNT game. It's like you need the chiropractors, the blacksmith, the fucking room service lady. Biz is getting his shoes just belted into his foot like a blacksmith in the TNT. We were texting last night because could you tell the Bluntman story? Like about the love? Which one? Oh, me? Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, I was FaceTime with Bluntman. I'm like, he's sitting there with his brother and his thing is he'll never tell you that he loves you. He's not an emotional guy. He doesn't show his emotions. No. And he was sitting there with his brother and I had never met his brother. We're on FaceTime and I was like, oh, that's pretty cool. You guys live together. I go, you guys must love each other. And Liam goes, no. I go, wait, you don't love your brother? He's like, no. He's like, I appreciate him. I appreciate him. And I was like, that's crazy. Cause like, I'll tell the fuck it. I'll tell the girl who brings the food up. What do you call them? The help me out. What up girl? A waitress? No, the room service guy. I'll be like, love you, bud. Like, thanks for cleaning late. Love you, bud. So it's just weird how he has a, like a, he's unable to tap into his emotions like that. Where if you remember when we had that golf match against Bob does that comes out soon. And, and we 23rd. Yeah, we, and we, and we try to give him a hug. He'll just keep his arms to the side. He will not hug you back. It's very uncomfortable. It's so uncomfortable. So if he's, if he was in the NHL and scored a goal, like you'd be like, something's wrong with this guy. Like he just, he'd be given that Wedgewood, like death hand signal. He add to his teammates, trying to hug them after a beautiful game. He won't shake hands either. Isn't he like a huge germaphobe and like, won't even shake. Howie Mandel. He's a, he's a. Canadian. He's, he's a, he's a, he's a public speaker. He's in a w what's the word when you get people fired up, motivational speaker, motivational speaker, guys like lay off them, lay off them. Uh, we got another motivational speaker, the rear Admiral he's coming on. Let's bring him in right now. Hello, everybody. Welcome to our radio show. He's rolled hair on the spit and chicklets podcast. Miss you guys time out. I know there's a few games being played, but we got to stroke Vegas off a little bit more fifth comeback winner of the post season. Right? First time they rallied back from a three goal deficit and playoff history for them. I go at another level, but the difference to me, Vegas is doing great forcing them. So a lot of errors, but the crease right now in the series, Wedgewood say percentage, eight, seven, six, hot nine, four, one. That's the difference right now. All three games have essentially been one goal games because they've been empty netters. So things have been tight. Powell plays pretty much a wash Colorado one for nine Vegas, two for nine. But I like this quote from, uh, from minor business. I'm not sure if you're sorry yet. Minor on the comeback quote, we have an older group that just stays patient and stays calm. We don't turn on each other. We don't get mad at each other. I was like, I didn't hear that one. He said that. No, I didn't hear the audio, but like, wow. But like really setting all the, all the common. Wow. You think he's talking to Colorado or Toronto? All right. Oh, I think like Toronto fans are going to take that personal a hundred percent. You know, absolutely. But you think that was direct shot to, to, to the, to province of Ontario. It's Keith. He said, we, we have an older group that just stays patient and stays calm. I mean, cue the clip from the bench when him, Nylander and Matthews were going out one other. I'm assuming. Right. Yeah. I'm sure. I'm sure Toronto Twitter's out of control, but I saw Nylander's just ripping up the Montreal Grand Prix all weekend. Oh yeah. He's getting, he's getting in on the four check. Um, all right. Like, yeah, I will say the, the, the idiots in Toronto who are still kind of like trying to dog him somehow. It's fucking embarrassing. They need to come to the dark side. Like me, like I hand up, I was a fucking idiot. Like I was totally wrong. Like Mitch Marner is a playoff God at this point and they need to start glazing him and give him his praise. Like everybody else who's turned the page is doing right now. So how do you feel about it? I mean, like I tweeted last week that I think he might have the, the, the best highlight goal of the playoffs and the best highlight assist of the playoffs, like arguably and the best highlight quote that we hadn't heard. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. That, that as well. But, um, going back, that Taves goal the other night, though, even though last night that Colorado lost, I thought that was maybe the best two passes leading to a goal. I've seen all playoffs, like the stretch pass up the middle for me, uh, and then they just did that little twirl. I mean, that was just, how about the move Manson did behind the net? It was a wicked song. Little fake pass the right corner. And like, that was sick play. And then he tried to cross. Who'd he try to cross checking in that game too? Everyone. Colasar. That was, yeah, that was the game before, I guess. Oh, yeah. I was taking a look at the, uh, Conn's Mike thoughts. If minor is the chalk right now, plus one 80 Freddie plus five 50. But a few days ago, Carter, how it was 40 to one, I guess he was 80 to one like a week ago. He's still 30 to one right now. Yeah. I don't think the league's given Carter Carter. Carter could get a shutout the next five games. And he ain't getting the fucking. The odds makers know who votes on it, but, uh, Taylor hall, 10 to one, uh, Blake 11, one Dober's 13. There's some good prices out there. I mean, like last year, right? I think I got Bennett at maybe 20 or 22 to one last year. Cause if a guy has a good run on the finals, man, that that's going to give him much more, uh, you know, credence for the Conn's might. So, uh, I got this question from a Twitter follow, uh, Cody Millette. Hey, all right. A playoff, be it still a thing for players or did they kind of fall out of tradition? I seem to remember a bigger emphasis on them when I was a kid. And I've been kind of looking at some faces and, and I don't know, is this maybe key? League's gone young. League's young, man. Cause some guys can't grow a beard. Even like you look at some guys that just who were a low T. That's G low T. The boys are. You think it's a low T league, G? No. That's what I tell. I think it's just they're young. I can't grow a beard yet either. So I'm just telling myself it's a league wide problem. Yeah, G, aren't you 30? How old are you? 33. It ain't coming, but. It ain't coming close, boy. I think that they started putting soy milk, uh, in the coffee. In the coffee stand, too. That probably has a little bit of that with their guys getting those, those titties. Those little man titties. Uh, I know this is something I bitched about before. I'm going to, again, I hate this no matter what team, what country, whatever. When they do national anthems and fans do this, like, call back, like, like they're at a fucking rap concert or something like, like Carolina does it, Dallas does it. Yeah, they say red when they say the red part. Again, any, it's not because it's USA. It's just shut the fuck up. That's the stand up. Okay. Well, time out. Time out. So are you not down? Are you not down with when Chicago claps and gets louder and louder as a whole? You know what? That's probably the lone exception where like noise during the end, because the way they literally do it, the entire anthem. And I believe that started during the first Gulf war in the early nineties, if I'm not mistaken. So it was, you know, obviously time speaks for itself. And I think that sort of is like baked into that tradition. So I, and I've been there, man, and it is, it is quite a thing, but I don't know, call them back, you know, uh, like, you know, a word or a fucking, even like a corporate name. It's just, I don't know. I didn't just, I don't know. I think of Dallas yelling stars and, and this is a, you know, coming from a guy, a rider was five. He's taking his hat off, putting it over his heart for the, for the, you know, the anthem. But I don't think it's as big of a deal as you do. I feel like the fans respect the anthem and it's just a little bit extra fired up. Yeah. They're into it. A little bit of Abe Simpson. Old man yells at cloud. Maybe, but I don't know. I'm just, maybe it's just old school. And I just, I'll raise that. You know, you keep them all. The Panthers still yell night. For Spencer night. They still yell night. No, they don't. I swear to God. Okay. That's that. They should be kicked out of the league. Not even on the frigging team. I know. Take away their six round pick. Should we put up a Twitter poll for, for RA? Maybe clip that and put up a Twitter poll. I mean, I don't know. I'd be curious to know how many people that it grinds their gears. I'm guessing that's going to be a low percentage. Probably. Especially on Twitter. I'm like Jesse James on fucking Twitter. So I don't think I'm going to get much support there. Bad boy. Yeah. Uh, well, hey, I want to say, congrats to my pal, Hannah Brandt. She retired last week, played five pro seasons, including the last two here with Boston of the PWHL. Uh, this resume unreal. She went Olympic gold in 2018, Olympic silver in 2022, three world championship golds, two world championship silvers, a U18 world championship gold. And when she was at the university of Minnesota, she went three national championships in four years. I was the frozen for most outstanding play her junior year. When she scored the title winning goal versus Harvard. And the other year they lost. And the final. So a great kid. I got friendly with her when she played here in Boston through our friend, Kelly Babstock. So a shout out to Hannah. Enjoy retirement, my friend. I'm glad you brought up the ladies. Our race. I want to shout out Aaron Ambrose. She's won a national championship. She's won an Olympic gold medal, a world championship gold. And then she just won the, the PWHL with the Montreal Victoire. And on top of that, Mary Phillip Poulin, who was the captain in the, and won it with the Montreal Victoire, she has a girl girlfriend on the team so fucking heated rivalry hold our drink on the team they beat not on her team with same team and they're wow and then they did like a photo op after like boys the pwhl espn better clean up their fucking act right all right shit yeah you better get them on the goddamn website but i know you're making moves but i know who won the fucking chess tournament last week though at least i got that biz i hear you buddy popular as shit oh buddy it's going i think they're expanding two more teams to the pwhl why are you laughing yeah he said i thought you were talking chess i thought there was chess teams i didn't know about that's why espn oh shit uh i throw it a little uh all right hamilton got a little feedback uh boy sings he checked in he actually pretty pretty cool question i'll ask you guys first do any of you have family that currently serve or have served in the military of course today is a memorial day see we uh love all guys and gals who's laid down their lives so us goofy idiots can do what we do here and make a living off of it so uh and you guys have aunts uncles whatever like grandfathers who served my grandfather did um a marine legend of a guy and actually my parents went to uh normandy recently and they they went on a viking cruise where you go and and you see um you know you see everything you see omaha beach you see all the beaches you see the cemetery you see just something there's a museum and they said it was the most touching like my dad couldn't even describe it he's like i was so emotional um and that's something that is for sure on my bucket list to get over there and i think the the feeling you have like the eerie feeling and the respect and i mean there's canadians america there's so many different nationalities that that fought that war that i have to get over there and see that the way they were just fighting and i think that's describing it to me yeah true true yeah yeah i got both my grandparents uh both my grandfathers uncles py my uncle py was in the army um my father-in-law purple heart uh from vietnam uh my brother-in-law bobby noonan um yeah so a ton of us and uh yeah i i told my parents if i didn't make the nhl when i told them i was leaving not going to school they were like what's your backup plan and i want to go to school and they were like what's your backup plan and i want to be in the military so it's one of those things where it's in when it's in your family especially especially you know you see what they went through you you hear the stories like you just have so much pride of being american and having people that in your family that have fought for you and uh truly a special day for them so make sure you reach out to everyone that that was that served us and you know they're the reason why we get to live this beautiful life absolutely what just like the fact that like you know we get to to live in in free countries and and and we have the ability to do what we want to do because of the ultimate sacrifice that people made for us it's one of those things where like wait i couldn't even imagine going to like normandy and just like sit and stand there in silence and just picturing what people had to like get off a boat knowing getting off a boat getting gunned down like it's insane at at you know 17 18 19 years old like kids like yeah we were we were going off to japan we were going to japan we were going to japan we and you know we were intimidated fucking going to you know on the bus and going to away buildings having to play against 20 year olds maybe thinking we were going to get beat up like could you imagine flying overseas knowing that you might not be coming back all to just provide the freedom for your country so it's pretty like crazy and it's obviously huge that we take days like this to stop and remember what these people did for us and uh we live in amazing amazing world for the i mean north america we you know we get to live the way we we do because of of the sacrifice that people made so i can't i don't think we could speak highly enough from those people who did that and and and obviously we're so grateful that they did especially you hear stories like kids like that with like you know lied about their age going in like 15 and 16 years old you just think of that well how about the guys who like were crushed like souls crushed when they had a an issue that wouldn't allow them to serve like right you know a bad feeder like an example like club feed it's like they were they were they were crushed by that so i mean my parents said that when you go there like the cliffs my dad or my mom was saying like i don't know how they got through like i don't because the weather was so bad so they didn't have a lot of coverage overhead from planes and he's like i don't understand how these guys like ended up getting up there and like stopping all the gunners that the nazis had set up it was just something that that after hearing from them after their trip i'm like i'm i'm doing that at some point and funny enough rider who's eight and a half he's all he does is play he plays with his battleships he's always watching movies about but he's obsessed with like the navy it's so interesting like he'll watch a hockey game with me but he's right back to the battleships and then watching videos about it it's pretty cool i'm like wow i'm like i think you might have a lot bigger balls than your old man because i had the bad feet i wouldn't have been able to come serve with you guys i would have been back home taking care of everyone for you guys you know me you know i'd be what's your girlfriend doing does she need me to bring over groceries yeah wit take your bad feet over and then clean my house while you're at it that's kind of where i just make sure you get in the right escalator on the way home when you mentioned the cliffs went like when you know what spielberg did with saving private ryan was just absolutely incredible like the like the first time you see that movie man you just slack jawed for the next two hours but another great movie the longest day it was made in the 60s and it's you know about the invasion of d-day as well and it's incredible movie they had like every major star in the world practically uh and like the what how what they were able to accomplish back in the uh back in the 60s was amazing but yeah you brought that up recently right yeah yeah because i hadn't heard of that i'm gonna check that out yeah definitely and band of brothers is the great miniseries to check out as well gee i know you uh you had uh family members were gonna get you here uh my grandpa was a marine uh he was the best and it's pretty cool like my dad is uh he's obviously so proud of his dad he he did so many different things in his life more than catholic hall of fame started all these different businesses but when you ask my dad about his dad being a marine he was like oh my god i'm gonna he almost gets emotional talking about it it's it's pretty cool to hear and one thing i do want to shout out is in honor of memorial day we filmed that chiclets university at army west point very end of the video we had the opportunity coach riley and a few of the guys took us up to the trail of the fallen which is a trail right outside of west point where you walk up the trail and you you have a rock in in memory of someone that that gave the ultimate sacrifice in war so you get to the top of this mountain and there's a giant like 100 foot american flag biggest american flag you've ever seen and all around it is names on these rocks of guys who gave guys and girls who gave the ultimate sacrifice and there's little stories written about each person and when you're up top there you you kind of realize like man like it's it's so much bigger like these kids at army they're playing for something so much bigger than you know just just going out there to score a goal it's it's it's emotional go watch that video but you know shout out to all those who gave the ultimate sacrifice because i guess there's a uh brendan burn keith and i's friend and his son james is on riders team they're good buddies same age he was telling me that i think at 10 years old there's a west point hockey camp it's a sleepover hockey camp and that's one that i know for rider too like he would love that and then you know i'm sure the kids are taught and they see what actually goes on there and the intensity these guys have and what it means so that's something i'm going to be looking into in a couple years awesome with it too like they invite tons of local high school teams they yeah pittsburgh did it yeah they invite tons of people there just to go through it do the trail of the fallen they do all these military exercises and they show what a day in the life is like for these people and it's it's just i i left there being like i am not a fucking man these guys are so much more of a man than me your wrists would have kept you out of the military oh you're like dude you're like you gotta hold this gun i yeah i uh what about you all right yeah my uncle mike my mother's uh brother he uh he was in vietnam you know he he paid his price he come home like a lot of guys and pretty pretty banged up for a while but he fortunately got better and got into the recovery community and helped a lot of people out after he got sober came home with a nice little ak 47 too for a little souvenir uh my grandfather he was uh in the navy he served in the south pacific during world war ii he was on i believe it aircraft carrier i hit by a kamikaze man he didn't you know he survived it and all but saw some crazy shit my old man was in the army fortunately he didn't get out summit for vietnam my father was in the army he was in the army he was in the army he was in the army my father-in-law he's still my father-in-law jack he was in vietnam as well this is these two last two are crazy i didn't know about this till later in life my uncle my uncle my great uncle jimmy my grandmother's brother um he was a medic and fucking the battle of bulge he was a conscientious objector because he was a cat like devout catholic he wouldn't carry a gun so he was a medic uh like like through some of the bloodiest battles in world war ii like the battle of bulge and like yeah he just had you know the red cross thing there didn't carry a weapon and just was a was a medic for these guys because like i only saw him you know as an old guy you know he was always you know under the weather shall we say and i and i realized why because he had ptsd like that stuff wasn't diagnosed back then they called it you know stuff he saw yeah you know uh with shell shock they used to call it so i and i didn't find out about this till later life and then this is the craziest one my my great great uncle hugh mcgonigal come over from ireland and he joined the navy uh to get citizenship and he was on the uss main i know you probably heard of it you know the spanish-american war uh that got blown up in havana harbour my great great uncle was killed on that and like nobody in my family knew this my my grandfather told me not long before he died so it was like not a secret just you know like they just didn't know typical irish families back then they didn't talk about shit i was down allington national cemetery and i saw that once of the tomb of the unknown soldiers you know ceremony there and then i looked at the map and i see uss main memorial i said i gotta go over there check this out and they you know they went back uh sometime later and they and they got the mask from the ship and they put a memorial with the mask like in a big sit like a cylinder of concrete and i look up and there's my great great uncle's name hugh mcgonigal at allington national i had no idea like you know you again hallowed ground you go there it's just such a solemn place and we had no idea our family name was was on a stone there because they went back and they got a lot of the remains and brought them back and they were actually the first soldiers and sailors that were killed overseas and buried at allington national so that's i like i told my uncles and my dad and nobody in my family knew so it was just this crazy history i'm glad i got to find out so yeah pretty uh pretty wild stuff man so again good topic though yeah yeah great job yeah good conversation so uh moving along classic recommendation we'll have a little fun midnight run uh one of the best comedies of the 80s it's actually robert denaro's first real comedy it's him and charles groden denaro's the bounty hunter he has to track down charles groden and meanwhile all these mobsters are trying to chase him down might be on netflix right now i believe but legit one of the funniest like comedy action movies of the 80s and again it's denaro's first comedy role so give it a whirl and keith you never saw that midnight run no i gotta check that out yeah give it give it a world 95 on rotten tomatoes oh yeah it's an absolute classic yeah um i'm sure a lot of the viewers out there 1988 to come out so uh long time columbus blue jacket analyst and former scout uh bill davidge passed away last week at uh 72 so we want to send condolences to his family friends in the columbus family as well we're sorry to hear that and uh i hate to end on a tough note but uh we had a bad bad day in boston yesterday as i woke up to the news that uh boston firefighter robert killed a bk as he was known was killed in a fire in dorchester oh man uh and it's you know like i've said before my you know and keith you know your grandfather was was a jake and you know when you grow up without your family it never goes away so when this happens it just it just it's heartbreaking for everybody but particularly for those people who have you know firefighters in the family whether they're active retired and i got a lot of great buddies on the job and uh you know like we talked about trooper trainer a couple weeks ago and these uh you know civil servants who give their lives for us but uh you know you just go to work one day you don't know if you're gonna come home so you know uh we send out you know deepest condolences and sympathies to the boston fight apartment and the family and uh you know we love you bk and uh thank you for your sacrifice that was just brutal keith is that your grandfather's old yep that's that's awesome look at that look at this thing but it's crazy like firefighters you're a lot of time you're like oh it's such a great job right like they you know it's like i think they work uh 24 on a couple days off 24 off and and in theory yeah but then like buddy they get that bell rung and they're they're walking into a fucking fight it's just so crazy like the difference in when the job is maybe low key at times and then the fact that when it's time it's like here we go and that i saw that i think he was on the third floor the floor gave way fell down just horrible news i'm glad you brought that up yeah that was my pop that that was in the boston globe several years ago my old bin putting out a fire right there so first time you see him in person man you shit your pants you realize how the job they do so again oh yeah i was a kid my my dad was a volunteer for like 30 years and i'll never forget like i was like he got a call and he had me like i was with him and we were just at the he had to drop us off at this house across the street and like obviously the lady took us in and i'll never forget like watching this huge fire and they went and like fought it and and put it out and you know you're you're like six years old you're like holy shit this is what this guy's doing every every wednesday to go for calls and go for meetings for like this is what this is why his pager's going off sometimes in the middle of the night so pretty pretty crazy stuff and the fact that these people are doing it as like a regular job all the time it fucking you know same same thing goes for the people who had the ultimate sacrifices they're laying on the line just to keep us safe and yeah it's a credit to them and we love you guys all you first responders yeah that's all said great job on a day when when all that stuff should be brought up so awesome job all right all right you gotta you gotta pick for tonight's game um i like uh montreal because i believe they're six and oh after a loss so far the playoffs uh they haven't been great at home uh but they they almost rope a dope their way to a two nothing series lead the other night they could have very easily won that game this team doesn't blink they don't care that they're getting out shot they're getting higher quality shots uh i think they're going to be revved up tonight and who knows biz i if it goes six and there's a potential clinch who i'm gonna have to take a ride on 93 to 89 oh it's up i i want to go to game yeah i'll be i'll be all over you all right all right we appreciate it good to see you after an episode off um biz thanks great job looking forward to watching tonight what do you got and last thing i just want to thank mitch garber he him and his kids let me come to their studio here i was gonna ask where you were yeah luckily i was able to just walk over and come use this mitch garber he he's a lawyer and an investor um ended up being one of the founders of the cirque de soleil uh so that whole franchise and then later became um a minority owner in the kraken like he he's one of the early investors in the crack and so did you tell him they're on the no watch list or no absolutely not i basically said i'm considering him for one of my teams for next season so um even even said that i might even make amends with buoy but we know that's not happening no no way too far yeah thank you to him him and his family for for taking me in here and uh and also i don't know who thought of the hockey dad merch but great job even though it's a little bit of a faux pas me wearing it um hockey daddy yeah maybe not hockey daddy we also got tons of uh new polos rowback polos we just released green we released uh pink as well the green one is so classy i got that one sent to me that green one is just like that with a nice pair of of green ones and then a little bit of gray shorts or khaki and a classic gray belt with the gray shorts or khaki shorts and then oh my god gee great idea there good job some great guys and blunny i mean what a run man from the start of the year he came to vegas for that opening game he called somebody getting a hatrick dorothea got a hatrick in that game i think it's the year of bluntman and i don't think there's and he should get a ring if they win it i think he will you know vegas they take care of their own they do if they fuck everyone i shouldn't take the care of their own until they don't need you then they gas you they're just cutthroat villain scumbags can't stand them but you know what they're a hell of a fucking hockey team like i i hate to say it but i think if they would have lost with bluntman attendance they would have probably unfollowed him on social media oh yeah blocked him on on all texts and any type of conversation and i don't know taken back the package they sent him with all the vip merch that's what they would have done it's got like a self-detonating uh device on it the jersey would have to call alan walsh for a meme with a sword going through his back flurry style i'm still waiting on my healer monster residual so i don't know how long that's gonna take i knew that was coming all right happy memorial day to everyone and we'll be back to you on thursday peace love you all won't happen won't happen won't happen again i better have it worth breaking but it's taking time and i know you don't let it it's gonna happen it's gonna happen again hey chicklets fans 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