Spittin' Chiclets Episode 641: Featuring Sean Avery & Erik Johnson

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I'm still not willing to say 100%. I'll say 99.8% chance the puck was in. I then released another video where I made it very clear that my entire opinion that I'm upset about is based on the fact that those refs called that a goal in the ice. I will never understand it. I will never understand why they were able to do it. They were both standing on the boards. No one could see anything. They saw Ryan polling, put his hands in the air and they heard that the pawn go crazy and they were like, okay, I treated out that they said, hey, do you see anything? No, I didn't see anything. What do you think? I didn't see anything either. Oh, we can't call it a goal. They know the fans are cheering and polling has his hands there. So let's call it a goal. We have a goal in the ice. The puck was probably in. The puck was 99.9% chance in. I just don't get bizz how you call it a goal in the ice. I don't get it. I don't understand it. And I don't care if everyone's selling me, okay, wait, if they didn't call it a goal on the ice, but it ended up being a goal, then they got the call right. But no, no, no, no, no, no, because you have to have full proof. And if it was called no goal on the ice, I do not think that that is called a goal once they review it. Somebody say something. Bizz, he literally kicked it over to you, Bizz. You put the jersey on two days ago, absolutely mushed this guy's team. And now you sit there in silence and say nothing when he throws them. I'm not collecting my thoughts. I'm like, I'm taking it all in. And I just want to express the level of gratitude I have right now to be recording this podcast. And not just with this situation, but just with the amazing competitive insane hockey we've seen over the last few days, like I have the best job in the world. I have the best job in the world. I just want to thank everyone I want to even oilers fans out there right now listening, even though you want to spike your phones or punch your steering wheels while you're listening. I'm going to start with this. The fact that people keep posting that still image of the referee in the corner and then the two other refs out saying, how can you call that a goal on the ice? How can you call that a goal on the ice? He clearly as the player for Anaheim starts celebrating, you could see him start making his ways closer and closer and closer towards the net. Does he ever go like this to signal a goal? No, he actually kind of goes like this. No, he doesn't. He goes like this to be like what the fuck's going on? What's he celebrating? Let me ingest what's going on here. Whoa, whoa, whoa, everybody. And as he comes from that angle, people say, how can he see that the pucks in? You could see the puck is in from where he's skating from as he gets closer to that way easier than you would be from that overhead camp. By the time he gets there, but I'm pretty sure Murphy had already put it under his skate though, had backed it back. He did that. Rough didn't get there in time to see before Murphy hit it a split second. Okay, that's fine, but he would have at least started creeping up a little bit and had a better angle to like see the red line and see where the puck was because the blade is like this far off the ice. It's not like right on the puck, right? So you would be able to see it way of way better from an angle coming from the corner that he did compared to that picture right there that you see on camera that we all saw. So to say that the ref didn't see that this thing was across the line because he didn't signal a goal. He was, I think he just put his hands like this like, whoa, what the fuck is going on? This is chaotic. We got a guy celebrating like it's Patrick Kane on game six when he scored over the flyers like, whoa, whoa, whoa, what the fuck's going on? He never signaled a goal then. He never said the referee was just as per question. Usually, if you don't see it go in, you do nothing for this reason for this reason. So you're just trying to ingest it. So he's like an and a credit credit to was it pulling? Is that you see his last feeling? Pailing, Pailing, credit to Pailing. I think his celebration had a lot to do with the influence of the fat. Why are you laughing? Because that's like kind of my point. Like if this is well, it feels like I trust him. I trust him over the rep. He's the guy. What do you tell me? Any player who puts it there, whether it's in or not, isn't going to fuck it start. No, don't you think you can't criticize somebody's natural reaction as far as the referee and like, whoa, whoa, whoa, when then a player sees it over the line and he's going crazy just like Patrick Kane. Let me tell you something. I can criticize anything. That's fine, buddy. That's fine. Let me ask you. Actually, let me get this out there. Do I think it was a goal? Yes. So in the end and okay, but, but, but, but, but, but, and I agree. That is, that is, that is it. If they called that no goal in the ice, do you think it stands as no golpes? I honest. Okay. So, so if you're going based on the rule and them saying, well, we can't technically see across the line. What I tweeted out with is clearly the way that the skate blade is and where the line is, you can essentially see that the puck is in. I think everybody on planet earth, if they were hooked up to a lie detector and you said, is this puck in the in the net? Yes or no, they would fucking, it would be yes. Okay. So what I think is for fucking the first time ever, it seems like common sense has prevailed. Yeah. And if, and if fucking all the others fans want a bitch and complain and blah, blah, blah, direct your attention towards the fact that this has been an absolute fucking gong show as far as roster management and all the fucking nonsense with goal tenning that they put up with over the last three years. Jerry was talking, it's a, listen, I'm not talking about last night's performance in net, all right. Hey, I thought Jari was solid. How about let's talk about the fact that leading up to this, okay? In the last six game fours when trailing a series two to one, Edmerton has found a way to win the six straight wins in game fours when trailing series two to one. They go into Anaheim in a do or death die situation essentially. They're down three one right now. Their backs are against the wall. If I, I, I think you think there's no chance they come back. I think if there's one team that could do it, it would be the end of the night. We know because we know that they play crack hockey. But I think that this series with coach, coach Q behind the bench, the same thing we saw all season long down two. They come back to tie it down one late. They tie it. They're the comeback kids. Jans brought up the stat right before the end of regular season, what coach Q's done with this roster. But the fact that they go into Anaheim game four, do or die situation and they get outshot and outchanced. Forget, forget even the outshot and outchance. They were up to nothing. They're up to nothing and three to two. And what happens? This fucking ducks fourth line. I'm so sick and tired of this ducks first line. We got a fourth line. We got a defenseman. We got a guy who played at Western Michigan last year. Western. And we got a guy who the Bruins had for about eight seasons that was in Providence, most of the time. They're dominating. They're dominating. We got McDavid injured. Okay. On the PK still I duck. Can you explain that one to me? Because he's on the PK and the ducks second power play. Go. Why is he on the PK? He's he's hurt. He's injured. Now last night, I don't think the straightaway speeds that affected. But obviously when he went around Seneca, I think that little burst he's missing is what gets him around those styles to put it around his honor. How many times have we seen him hide and then the goal he's too fast, but it was that split second. That injury has been the killer. Jari was good. Now at the same time, that wasn't a great goal. That wasn't a great goal at the end. But no matter what, you're up to nothing man. You're up to three to two. And you can't close the deal. And what did I say? No, man, my second, my other video last. I think I made a couple saying the ducks fans shouldn't watch the series is just at an all time fumble saying I'll never root for the oilers again if they don't win. That's an all time fumble. Oh, you're on a run right now. Oilers, the oilers are not as good as last year. I thought, whoa, whoa, whoa, I thought you said this was the best team that they've assembled. I thought, have you ever taken back a lot of shit? Have you ever changed your mind, bass? Because I believe you said that. Wow. And who was the other guy that was good? They were going to add up to take Mariner's offense to the same level. Wow. Wow. Has been. It was I think it was why was it who's the other guy? Well, if you're going there, no, I don't because was been more effective than Mariner. Have you ever changed your mind? It's my point. Now, yes, the oilers, I don't understand. I want to give credit to the ducks. The ducks are nasty. What I don't get is, and you guys can tell me if you remember a situation like this prior, they were horrible at the end of the season, horrible enough to the point where it's like they could miss the playoffs. I don't remember a team turning it on like this. Maybe the oilers are just that bad and they're just and with make David hurt. They're just like, oh, the ducks didn't even have to turn on that much. They look incredible. And I don't remember a team, boys, that's why I was so cocky. Did I get way over my skis? Yeah, I was on a dull black diamond. I'd never skied before. I can't. They were horrible. They were giving up seven goals a game the last month. When did it? When has a team ever done this? Do you guys remember one? And with being that young too, you would think that would have bled into the playoffs. But I don't know whatever's been going on in that lock. I don't know if it's Q. I don't know if it's the older guys in that locker room. But the way that they the way that they've settled that down and put these young guys in a good position, like the young guys are carrying them too. Like this go TA is a sick, sick joke of a play. That shot he had was insane. Leo Carlson. So I think it was maybe one of those things where we all know, and especially in an Olympic year with a crazy schedule, maybe just towards the end of the year, they got gassed out and just didn't have anything left. And then whatever they had, their their pregame meetings before this playoffs, their practices before this playoffs, whatever was said between those guys has got them going. And the young legs are winning right now. I will take I will take the heaters. I will take the heat to this because everyone's always said you're a one man team. You're a two man team Leon Connor. I just can't help but think if corners healthy, it's a different story. I buddy, that's I understand that is the loser mentality. And it's next man up and everyone's playing injured. But when you have a guy who literally is like wing Gretzky in the playoffs that gets hurt and can't do what he always does with cutbacks and ninja moves. It's just it is what it is. I would miss. What do you think of it? If McDavid was McDavid, and you can obviously tell he's injured, I don't think it's three one. That's all I'm saying. Yeah, I mean, I think it's obvious he's a wounded duck. But it sucks, man. It sucks not seeing him 100%. I agree. It's probably a little bit of a different story. But I mean, fuck, man, I don't know, man. Leon put on quite the performance when he had that high ankle sprain a few playoffs ago. Like, I mean, you know, there's a lot of guys banged up right now. I know, but Leon, I agree. But Leon doesn't his game wasn't his game wasn't the cutback stops. It starts quick turns so it it. Do you don't do? Do you get that? I buddy, I completely agree. And it sounds like maybe there's some fucking going back to the drawing board for McDavid and and finding a way to maybe add some different things to his bag that translate better to play off hockey. Like I'm not saying that he's not a fucking listen. When he's fucking 100% and he's zipping around out there. Yeah, he's one of the best players in the world. If not the best. I mean, you sought at the Olympics. You got the MVP. I don't know. Couldn't find a way to really penetrate in the fucking gold metal game. Now, could he? I don't know. Fuck, man. But goes back to what Jan said, man, like look at these veterans. Like I think a lot of people, G just messaged in there. Like I think people thought when Alex galore and got the deal. He got even though it was a four year deal. Like there's a lot of money. But galore is not paid to fucking dance and fucking shine in the regular season. He's made for when the hockey gets hard. And I think that like Troy Terry's been awesome. And it's been a perfect blend of these veterans. Like credit them for having the balls and the persistence to go get John Carlson to bring him over. Like goodness isn't even in the lineup. And they're getting this done. They don't need that fucking toughness. Jackson Nicole man. Easy guy. He's a joke. He's leading the playoff of scoring for fuck's sake. Yeah. He's got points and guys in classic fashion. We've talked many times about the the decision to not draft wall step. You know, the wall of St. Paul. Yeah, pretty fucking good. In 2019, the NHL draft went down. And with the 38th pick, the Edmonton Oilers selected Raphael LaVoy. I don't know if I'm saying that right. Oh, that's a voice cousin. Yeah. Yeah. LaVoy. The 39th pick was Jackson fucking LeComp. It's just it's just a comedy show after comedy routine. Steve Harvey, Theo Vaughan left and right of Oilers decisions and Oilers management of their roster. And listen, Matthew Savoy had a great season played in every game. Would you rather him or Ryan McLeod right now? How would Dylan hallway and pro burgluck? Having said all that. How about how about how about this too, though? How about this this fucking wagon of a team that's supposed to be a cup contender. They couldn't even win the pillow fight of a fucking Pacific division. They put themselves in this situation to go against Anaheim in the first round too. They should have been fucking playing. They should have been playing Utah. I'm not saying it would have gone any better for them in that series either because the way that Utah is buzzing. But definitely a lot easier in my opinion than going against one of the if not is either all time or second all time and wins in playoff history coach Quinville. I pretty sure we all came to an agreement on this podcast that we'd rather play Anaheim than Utah. We we like talking about that. I think mostly because of the way Anaheim finished. Yeah. Exactly. Like yeah, I think 100%. I bet if you could go back, I would 100% choose Anaheim over Utah. Utah's look great too. But this Jackson LeColme and like the the American D in this playoffs right now are absolutely incredible. Him, Hudson, Faber. It's a real fucking joke. How good they are. But I just love the Quin hues. Quin hues. Yeah. I mean, yeah, I was thinking more younger and younger guys. But this it's I mean with the only thing you can be looking forward to is like it like this said, if there's any team that can do this and come back and make this a series and get to a game seven. And if you get to a game seven with Connor McDavid, it's a coin flip, right? And it's it's one of those things where you'll take in Connor McDavid's team anytime. in a game seven. So I don't think it's complete, complete panic time yet in oil country, but it's, uh, it's pretty damn close. It's far from over. I'll say that. Do we talk if they lose their homebiz, if they lose a game five at home, I, I don't even, I don't even want to think about what's going to go down. I would hope there wouldn't be complete panic with the front office because you got two million years of honor and, and, and, and, and listen, listen, listen. Well, that's if he doesn't ask out to Detroit. Um, yeah, that's that, that, that would mean that he doesn't ask out for Detroit. Yes. Correct, sir. Correct. Correct. Now, you think if they lose this first round series, he's going to be like, all right, let's saddle up and get ready for next year here or oil nation really signed, he signed it to your extension. Just go, go, going back here quickly though, we talk about these veterans for the Edahine ducks and I'm going to throw calorn, Troy Terry, Criter. How about that grandland signing? How good is that? That guy's a fucking dog game, right? Offs. And then Carlson and the first four games of the series combined 22 points for those veterans. Oh, those guys are grandland, grandland. This guy is unstoppable. I, but the coverage on that goal, I mean, just, well, buddy, let's, let's, let's be real here. The defense has been a fucking issue since, since Christ was a cowboy. Like, this isn't just like, I don't know, man. But I think you sometimes forget that they went to the cup final back to back years. Like, this season, I can give you that. The defense has been a joke all year. Like, you're acting like Christ was a cowboy. Like, you don't think they played solid defensive hockey the past two years against Dallas and then against like, what do we talk about? They didn't win. They lost to a better team. Can you not say they played good defensive hockey? The past two playoff runs. Okay, I'll just, I'm just going to read a stat for you. Okay. Oilers, most goals against the first four games of a post season. 20 goals allowed in 2026, which is right now this year. Yeah, horrible. 20 goals in 1982 in the first four games. 19 19 goals allowed in 2025. So in back to back post seasons, they've allowed 20 and 19 goals in their first four games of the playoff. And one of them went to the comments. One of those they won the round and then won two more rounds. What do I know? But we're as they can all explore every we're talking about defensive hockey. I'm saying is like, sure, I guess there's been signs of some okay defensive hockey, but I wouldn't say that that's what they're built on. No, I agree. But I think that their defense the past few years has been much aligned. And you look at like there was games that they were team defensively incredible. Now this year, this is a joke. There are guys running around. They give up, buddy, they gave up a four on two last night. I think it was late in the third with Bush pinching and Nugent Hopkins is skating backwards. Like he has rollerblades on facing a four on two and the third period. Yeah, it's, buddy, it's, it's, it's, it's not a sound hockey. Just some words of advice. So be careful what you say about your own team because like you could drive guys out of town. I'm just saying, I'm just saying. I think that our city in Edmonton is, is so much more like loyal and hardcore than Toronto and what you've dealt with being accused of. Oh, yeah, is that why I speck blocked you? Hey, do you include everyone? Speck is sensitive. If spec doesn't unblock me before game five, we could be done. But before we end this, it's, not over guys. And if they win at home game five, they got to steal one on the pond. And then game seven is anyone's ball game. Now right now, the odds are, the odds are against us. Our backs are against the wall. And I asked a few days off in between one of these games. All right now he wants the two days off. He's in the chat asking why are these teams got two days off between game. He wants to fucking what he wants to call time out. He wants to call time out. I'm sleeping. No, I want an extra day of treatment for me. Jesus Zach Morris over here. Time out, time out, time out. Time out. Fuck. Um, speaking of fourth lines. Where is your guys? Oh, non-existent. No speed, no physicality. They're getting eight year deals though. So you're calling out Fredrick. Yeah, I mean, I'm fucking I'm just saying is like, I don't know. No, what do you mean? No, you mean calling out Fredrick? I get it. Yeah. Eight year deal. Um, really hasn't been the player that I saw in Boston a lot of years. And has come over. I know he had a tough injury. He's kind of battled through that at this point. I think he's healthy. And it just seems like a little kind of a step behind the entire team is a kind of a kind of a step behind. I mean, Leo Carlson's flying down the fucking ice. He looks like he's six seven. He's setting guys up left and right. He's back checks. Yeah, he's yeah, they got Carlson. How old? See, he's amazing. I can't keep sitting here and talking about it. They got the call. They got the call. The went to the ducks. It was probably right. I still will never get it. I'll never back down. I don't know how they called it a goal, but they called it a goal. And I guess it's correct if they did that because it was in according to everyone. So congratulations to the ducks. K, Hey, you guys won the series, right? This thing's over. If you talk to ducks fans, talk to ducks, talk to ducks. People talk. It's over. It's over. It's called David. No, ducks fans, ducks fans don't, it's all it's literally over. Like they're like, Oh, what do you mean? There's another game. No, we won. So whatever we, I think I think we gave everybody the appropriate double rister on the Anaheim side because what they've done, we haven't though. I was just kind of just going to that toe save on McDavid. And I think you went that extra pep of speed gets that over the goal line. Like he beats his toe to the post, but R.A. R.A. was the only guy who picked the Anaheim ducks in the series. Something. R.A. also picked the Kings. So R.A. is a big, R.A. is a big fan of like when he makes a call, right? Which great call. He has been on the ducks for a while and congrats. R.A. and he's coming on. But R.A. or pump out the call he made, right? And I really sat down the, the Kings and seven pick and not mention like goes with baited breath. You know, you think you'd be like, yeah, I got the ducks. I also had the King. So you know, I'm kind of 50%. But he's just like, no, no, ducks, ducks, ducks, ducks. Well, you have the Kings beating the apps. Yeah, Kings and seven should negate his, his, his ducks pick for sure. A little call. And then there's me. And then there's me. I mean, I had the ducks in five. I mean, the, the, the oil was in five. I had the, the sends in seven. This has been, I think two years ago, I went eight for eight in the first round. I am basically, it's, it's opposite day in my life. Everything I say isn't correct. Um, dare I say you've turned into me. I'm, I'm approaching you as quick as a shit. Well, hey, you got more teams than me now. You get your going to fucking public appearances and Buffalo. You're part of the blade game. I'm going, I'm going, I mean, I'm going to Buffalo as a, as a sign of like, hey, guys, I fucked up and I'm somebody that can own this. I'm somebody that can walk into the belly of the beast, hand up, hand up. I got this one wrong. Okay. And I'm, I'm putting my seat and my row on Twitter to let people know you want to come in and let me have it. Rub my face in it. Tell me how stupid I am. This is where I'm sitting. If blade gang, I'll have me. I'd love to. Apparently it's going to be like, I'm on soon with hurricane winds and Buffalo. My rollerblading in wind and rain. That is a recipe for a disaster. But in terms of having a million teams like you, no, I would not say that's true. But I do. I'm happy for Buffalo fans. Um, I think, uh, I think that's, I think that's a wrap on, on, on that series so far to the Anaheim Ducks fans. Well, it's not a wrap. Can't come out. McDavid. The Ducks fans. Yeah. Okay. Guys, Montreal and Tampa Bay. This has been an all time series so far. Unbelievable. You get three games in overtime. You get the game for on Sunday, which was basically an overtime game. Brandon Hagel is a maniac, a complete lunatic. But I want to go back to game three because Marta St. Louis with a masterclassic coaching. Everyone said, Doc's gone. Doc's out of the line up. Get him out. Horrible icing gets burned by Moser. You said, no, okay, whatever. Yeah, you're genius. He keeps him in. And what happened is you texted the group. This is, this is scenes. This is feelings. The bell center channing his name. Take us through that whole entire night game three. Well, I just thought I had a feeling I texted the group chat. I think I think Doc gets one. So credit to Martin St. Louis for giving him another opportunity. Um, I didn't know what the odds were going into that one. It actually wasn't as good as I thought for Doc to get a goal. But buddy, that whole game was was the fourth line. Like they played probably the least amount of any line. They ended up plus three. And they had six points total. And then it's in that first period. Doc makes that beautiful play inside the blue. And it was, uh, it was, it was, it was Bulldooh who ends up picking that pass out of midair. What a play. Did you see that? Unbelievable. Oh, dude, that line in him and in text. Yeah, they've been fucking unreal. And then, and then after he bats it down, a beautiful pass over to text. Yeah. And he makes no fuck a mistake bar down. And then to see after that, the crowd chanting Doc's name, because obviously everybody's well aware of what happened. Like he had that horrible icing, the turnover. A lot of Habs fans in his DMs. And this is how you get, get, get to these modern day athletes. man, you go after their social media. So he deactivates it. His girlfriend deactivates social media. He gets refocused. He gets put in. And then what do you know? He ends up getting that fucking second goal to just pucks on that. And even before that, he had that beautiful opportunity where he got set up in the slot. And then he shot it. And I think he hit Vazalewski like right in like the throat area. And then boom, gets the rebound and they keep going. And, and a Arbor Jack I man, he's been fucking unreal this series. And he was, he was in and out of the line. He was, he was bad earlier in the year. So just to see him turn it around is awesome. Unbelievable. And he's the one who pinches down and keeps that play alive. So Doc can get it on the half wall. And he throws a kind of like a unknuckler towards the net. And then it's deflecting off one of the Tampa Bay Lightning defenseman. So that tied it up. And then of course you guys saw what, what ends up happening over time. And I mean, this series, like between the, the fights, the hits, the chaos. And like, I mean, the one other thing and we're going to have to get into it for game four. And it's kind of like a, not as bad. Obviously, of controversy in the Anaheim Edmonton series is the high stick. And the embellishment, the embellishment and the, and the stick play has been, it's been the top, the highest topic of focus for me. That is like the, you know, every year, you kind of have one thing that stands out. That's like, Oh, like this is happening over and over. Like one year, I remember it was like goals off of face offs. It felt like half the goals were being scored right off of draws within five seconds. Well, right now, especially in that Tampa Montreal series, if you go back to the game before you saw Anderson and Demadov with these like unnecessary, like high sticking, their sticks are going everywhere, buddy. And it goes back to the beginning with Gensel. It's been, well, it's weird. It's some, some of these series, this playoffs, it's been like these guys are losing their brains. And we talk about the league getting younger and younger and younger. I just feel like sometimes some of these young guys, obviously Gensel, the big surprise air is veteran, like guy back on his back pressure, like the fact that he swung a stick like that was banana lands. But I get it from some of maybe these younger guys who have inexperience. And you saw Martin St. Louis, they pennil on the bench. He's like, my fucking God, boys, the Montreal Canadian shouldn't be taking more than three penalties a game against the Tampa Bay Lighting. That's it. That should be your number. Okay. If you're taking more than that, you're fucking being irresponsible and you're doing it wrong. And once again, on the back, check there, listen, once you're all fans, sure, you have a gripe. He did swing his head back a little bit. And wait. And he did it like three seconds after he got it. But here's the thing though is he got him and you don't know if the ref saw it. So he did get hit in the face. You want to make sure that you're, you're, you're, you're, you're getting the call, man. So you don't mind the embellishment. But he hears the thing. So I had, I had somebody reach out to me yesterday, basically being like a little bit frustrated about it. And I personally feel there might have been a little bit of Canadian bias towards it. So I said, Oh, okay. So if you think that's embellishment, then you think the Crosby ones embellishment, right? And they're, oh, I would never accuse Crosby of embellishment. It's like, well, then fuck you. Like I'm not, then your opinion means nothing to me because you can't be honest about it. If you're telling me that that should have been embellishment, I'll agree with you. But you can't sit here and look in my eyes and say that you didn't think Crosby when he got nicked in the face was also partly. I think I think I did say that at the time. And my thing on this one was if, if your head snaps back the moment you get the high stick, I'd never blame them. I never get it because that is a natural reaction. If you get high stock and then take two, three strides and then throw it back, I don't know how you don't call embellishment. I don't care. And that's good. And another thing. He got hit like that. And when he, when he snapped his head kind of went like this, like to like, it wasn't like a, like that. It was, if you watch the replay, if you go back and watch it, you get stuck in the face and he did get hit. And then after that, there's a slight second delay. And then he kind of turns his head this way to like grab it as if though it he's cut or it's hurt. Okay. I get why he's doing it. You're trying to get the call. You're battling for position. And then a guy just stuck in the face. And then you, and then the way that the, the, the, the, the, is it James? That kid is nasty. Dominic James. Oh, this kid is unbelievable. Another Tampa Bay Lightning out of nowhere guy. Yeah, I'll call it guy. So he, the way that he's facing the, the ref is in the corner. So he's trying to basically make sure that this ref is going to call it. And there's no hand up initially. So that's why I think he grabs his face after to be like, fuck dude, I'm right in front of you. I just got stuck in the face. Where is your hand? So I'm okay with that being four on four. But I'm not okay with, with, with Montreal Canadians fans, bitching about officiating when you had a two nothing lead, you have allowed them to all of a sudden get all this momentum at the end of the second period by allowing Jake Gensel to get free alone in the slot for a backdoor tap and then you give up another grade A in the last minute, even before the period ends. So you should be lucky that you're not even going in there tied to two. And then what do you do when you come out for the third period? There's no reason to high stick James on the back check there. Your sticks out of position and you high stuck them. And then on top of that, what does Evans do? He gives fucking Kouture off the cross track. And that was just, and then, and then much raw Canadians fans are bitching that they said Kouture off. Don't know what Martin St. Louis I like his wording in the post game press conference. He goes, they're very good at drawing penalties. Listen, if Kouture felt that and he fucking kind of went down. Hey, man, call the credit to him to get the call. Buddy, I don't even think he dove on that. That was the dangerous play. That was dirtiest shit. I like that play at all. As the Canadians guy, this is coming from a person who had a full blown mental breakdown the other night. Last night, Canadians fans, for you to sit there, they were going crazy that that wasn't called a dive. And then it wasn't. I was like, he was Evans. Evans had had one of the best shifts of the playoffs. That shift. You've been making plays. He had the stick lift on the back check. He's going for a change. There is no reason whatsoever to give Kouture off that cross check. And when you're that going that fast and that close to the boards, that's a dangerous one. I thought he might get kicked out of the game and so did Koop. Koop was going bananas when they only called it to. So Canadians fans, Keith, you, I don't get that. Yeah, zero. You cannot argue that for one second. That not only is that a penalty, that's a dangerous play. There's no reason to do it. You're in good enough position to just skate with them. If you need to or get back, I did not like that play at all. But it's also to like member. It was either last year or two years ago when the cross check from behind with a big top topic of conversation. And you'd see guys, you'd take one cross check and then the second one, you'd see guys dive to get that penalty because the coaches you're having meetings with your players. Like, hey, if you get a stick up close to your face, snap your head back, put your hand on your face. Like, you know what you have to do to get a penalty in the power in the playoffs because it's they're so important. And if you can score on them, they're obviously even more important. But the little things of even having those conversations in your locker room where it's like, Hey, if the sticks are up by your face, you got to put your snap your head back to get that power play. Because yeah, at the end of the day, that's one of the things that's being called the tightest right now is the high sticks. People like, people like that are complaining about him snapping his head back. It's like, buddy, you do whatever the fuck it takes to win. Yeah, shut the fuck just because it should have been four on four. Buddy, you fucking, you threw that game up all over yourself. You were up to nothing at home. You took two stupid penalties in the third period and you gave up a last minute goal at home leading into the third. I also put a little, I put a little blame on the, on the Canadian fans too. You do not start booing Kucherov during the playoffs when he's a little bit sleepy. You let him sleep. Do not wake him up. Yeah, but that's been a time on a tradition of booing the best player on the other team when they get to talk. Not him. Let him sleep, man. Like that. Like if they weren't booing him, does he shoot that one from the corner at the end? He might dust it off a little bit. I don't know. I think you leave him alone. Don't boo him. Let him sleep and try to win other ways. 12 minors for the Montreal Canadians in their two home games, amateur hour. You should not be taking more than three penalties for Max. If it goes to overtime, sure. I guess we'll save the best for last. Brandon Hegel. Bro, he's got six, he's got six goals. That is, that is a fucking dog right there. That is a guy that every day of the week, twice on Sundays, that guy's on my team. Just an animal, an animal. And he fucking, he set the tone with that fight with Slath. How about Slath? And both their losses. He fights Hegel. Boom gets the fucking right hook right to the, the dome drops. He's the one who turns it over in the, on the tying goal to Hegel. And then in this game gets lit up at center rice. Who ended up getting them again? Crozier. Crozier. Hey, the view I saw that hit. It is shoulder like directly to the face. Yeah, but he's driving through his body. There's no way with the hit man. No, it's a beautiful hockey hit. But I see a lot of people like, wow, it's shoulder directly to the face. They might not know how the rule is like worded. Yeah, they also smoke cigarettes for breakfast and eat jolouys and a diet coke. Good for them. And they speak and they speak with a French accent. That's who thinks that was a dirty and sick. Yeah. That's it. Hey, Kauffield getting on the board though. He's got his first. Okay. So now leading in. Oh my god, for Canadians fans though, I just they had it. If they make that thing three one, they're in the driver's seat. And now you got two of the next three in Tampa. You got you got kooch coming alive. Who knows how Slap feels today. Slap is taking. You got knocked out by a Hegel and completely Scott Stevens Paul careered by Crozier. And credit to him for coming back into the game. He came back into the game and on the ESPN broadcast. He's got him on the bench. And he's going. He gives a nose a little adjust. He looks over at Kauffield. He goes, there's my nose straight. He was on Tampa's bench. Did we talk about the Cole Hudson goal? Are we kind of breased over? This kid has been so impressive to me. And I know in the beginning before playoffs started, it's the question market as a smaller defenseman for him. Like, can he get to that next level of that tier one NHL defenseman? This kid is so impressive, man. Like what he does on the ice, every shift is in. Have you ever seen they interviewed him after the after the game after he scored the overtime went. He didn't have a drop of sweat in his hair. And he's moving a thousand metric interview though. An all time and I couldn't believe that interview. They felt like he scored a goal goal in beer league or something. Who was who was doing that interview? I said to go that pile the caucus, he just 30. Yeah. Yeah. I felt for him man. He was I think he asked them like 10 questions where I think usually that's a two or three question interview, but he was giving them absolutely nothing. And you know what with Lane Hudson. He's a hockey player. Hey, it's hockey. It's a hockey guy. But in his mind, he's like ask hearing the question. He's like, I want to go back out and like work on like a bad play I made in my own zone. I would feel in the net a little tighter. And then he's like, what'd you say? Oh yeah, it was awesome. I mean, they asked him, you don't take many slap. You said it was the first slap shot of the year you take. And he's like, well, I took the last one was a one time. He's just hockey brain hockey mind. And that goal. He's like hockey autistic almost. Yeah, I give you that one. Yeah, hockey spectrum. That's a great call. That's a compliment too. That's a tire pump. That's a tire. You're on the hockey spectrum. Now, the video, the distilled image of the game three winter and overtime, I will never understand how that puck went. And if you've seen behind him this, there's seven bodies. I don't even know. It was like the seas part. Maybe his hockey spectrum autism is like, it's like Jesus. No, like the seas part. He was able to do that. Who's the guy? Who's the guy from X men, the guy in the wheelchair, like with his mind, he could just like part, part things, like he'd make things move. Yeah. Big C is the bald guy. I know you're talking. He was also in Star Trek. Yeah, he's the leader of them, I believe. Big C is. Oh, it's that's right. That's right. Boy, yeah. Yeah. What a what a fucking series. I and Vasey's found it is. Vasey's found it, boys, and I in my gut, I picked Montreal on seven. I knew this was going to be an unbelievable series, but I think that we're going to be looking back when Montreal loses the series and we're going to remember game four and how they had it. Hey, this, this is, this is like, this is like the Leafs. The Leafs were up three one again. It's Florida and game four last year. This is the exact same situation. And then boom, they made it three, two, and then the three, three goal. We all know about my martyr, Rand. This is exactly this fucking exact same situation, just a high scoring game. I feel like it slipped from their fingers. What? No, it ain't fucking over, biz. It ain't over. You go. I'm just telling you what I'm telling me, ball. Yeah, well, fuck your gut. The, like, what do you think the conversation in the coach's room is about what can we do to contain this fucking haggle mutant? All right. Yeah, the motor on them. There's not much you can do. And now Hudson has a very similar type motor, but on the back end, it's just different because you're never in on the four check and running guys. And in front of the net and having box hit in the stomach and go in and fighting people like it's another thing too. That's another thing too is people are like, oh, like, like, oh, it's all cool. It's all cool. It's all haggle. You just stand there without the shin pad. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Imagine being that size and having the fucking balls to go to the blue paint the way that he does. Yeah. And if it was so fucking easy, why and everybody else doing it? I see a little where would people say hymen's only good because of mcdavid, I think it's kind of similar. Like nobody, not everyone can do it. Yeah. Yeah. And I think that right now the way that that Hegel is impacting the game in the areas that he has, he's, I think he's above that. He's consmife. He's consmife. He's the front runner right now. I think I think I think it's incredible. The impact he's made. Like I, if I'm if I'm the discogled black hawks, I'm sick to my stomach. How about the Canadians and the Sabers? Now the Sabers are loving life and the Canadians, they got tons of young talent, but Chicago. Yeah, that is as I'm sitting in Chicago right now. It's like, hey, you guys see Brandon Hagel play. He's seen the six goals he has in four games. Oh, yeah, you guys. What was that trade? Exactly. Can we get that trade? I think they ended up with. It was too first. Okay. Be you and the other first round, there was pretty, it's pretty good too. I can't think of it off the top. My head, gee, check that. I thought it was less. I'll be trying to package those for for for for Brady to chalk and a bold fucking two months, two minutes. Well, we'll get to that. We'll get to that series. Before we have on our first guest, we got to bring up the Boston Bruins and what was probably the most embarrassing home playoff game I can ever remember seeing the Boston Bruins and and G just in classic kind of, you know, kind of like I've been just so cold. I mean, you said this place is buzzing as I think you walked into the arena. I mean, that place was completely asleep. They were horrible outside was buzzing outside inside the arena. I'll be the first one to say it. I've gone to a lot of playoff games in Boston guys a ton. That was the most quiet I've ever heard that arena and by far the most visiting fans I've ever seen. I mean, there was let's go Buffalo chance at some point in Boston for a playoff game that should never ever happen. So it was it was tough and then in game in game three, I feel like it started when Bruins score. Arvinson gets the penalty shot. Doesn't go up to nothing. Yeah, I was it later, Byram scores entire life is sucked out of the arena and then it's just for two to two games in a row. It's just trash after that. To have the road team score nine straight goals in the other team, that is you might as well take a shit on their logo. A statement of a team and a franchise. They were one of the best straight in the garden. They were one of the best home teams. I know this year too. That's why it's so crazy. But I guess at home, their past 10 games in the playoffs, they have not been good. I believe they're three in 10 in their last 13 home playoffs games dating back to 2023. That's awful. That's I can't have we we got to go back to one of the EBR rules and something that we were talking about in the group chat was the fact that I kept hearing about how good of a matinee team this was and then I think it was backed up with chat GPT digging up what their actual record is, but mind you this season because I once I fired that tweet out, I had a bunch of Bruins fans saying like what Bruins fans told you that. So they're 500 this whole season now playoffs when it comes to the matinee games. They're five five and one. So if there's a Bruins fan out there that tells you they do not like an early start game. They are lying out of their teeth because that is Boston Bruins fans Super Bowl to get a buzz on by 9 30 AM. Go to the game. Get waffle. Share for your team. Have a good time. Obviously not in those games, but when when they have that early game, that's their absolute Super Bowl. I get group chat text from people back home. Who's going to the matinee game? Matinee game today. That is their super so busy. If anyone's saying that to you, they are completely lying out of their teeth and fucking idiot Bruins fans in my in my mentions right now because I said, oh, I thought this, but mind you, I just gave you the record this season though. They're they're five five and one. So this year, whatever you guys told me as far as your EBR rule number two, always bit that Bruins in the matinee game. So they had in the regular season, they had 13 losses at home, I believe, and four of them were in day game. So I guess this year they could complain. But for a long time, the Bruins afternoon at home have been like a money bet, a money bet. Now that's like going that's like going red on roulette. Like it goes 15 times in row and all the sudden it's eventually going to turn the other way. And I think we're on the other side of it. And boys and boys, the penguins and who stayed alive will get to that and the Bruins who are barely alive. All year, I didn't get how they were so good. I never understood it. I believe I said that they both could be lottery teams in the preseason preview. And now you're kind of seeing. Now granted Pittsburgh's alive and they're going home. So let's not like Pittsburgh is in a better spot than Boston. Do we agree on that? And that was not in a great spot. But both teams to me, I didn't get it. I didn't get the regular season success. And now you're kind of seeing like, oh, maybe, maybe it was a little bit smoking mirrors. Maybe they weren't as good as the regular season said. The Bruins, they are outmatched, There outmatch skill wise, I think pasta was getting booed by the fans I don't want to blame Boston on swimming flipping out on the bench. Now, what did you guys think of that? What did you think of that? Hate it. Absolutely. Wow. Listen, here's the deal. Golees. They're like, I don't know, they're untouchable, right? You can't call them out in the media. You can't yell at them in the locker room. You can't do anything like they have this protection about them and then they can go out and do something like that. I always think it's such a double standard when it comes to goal tendering and whether they're playing good or bad and if they're yelling at the team, oh, they care, nobody else cares. I don't like it. It's got to be something. And if you are going to call the team out, you do it in the locker room in front of your guys, not where 20,000 people can see it and every a million is watching at home. So I, what if, what if the guy holds more of a leadership role in the locker room? No, normally, like normally a goalie isn't necessarily a vocal guy in the locker room. But I feel like Jeremy Swainman, it's a bit different in Boston. Like he is, he is. Do it in the locker room. It's locker room. Gee, tell me or any of you guys tell me the last time you remember like a Stanley Cup winning team. And I can't think of one now of a player on that team screaming at his team in public on the ice, not in the locker. The McDavid one after the first two games in in Florida, a few years ago was in the locker but just happened to be Amazon, right? I don't remember a Stanley Cup winning team where a player is screaming at his team in front of the entire world to see. No. The coaches do it. Maurice. Maurice did it to the panthers one year, but that's the coach. That's the coach's job to do that. Would you guys have liked to see more of like a McAvoy approach like after the game, McAvoy was asked about it, which is an average of every 100% were a team here. Like keep everyone from myself to everybody down the list. We got to be better. We should have been embarrassed. Now, the other side of that is if you look at Swainman's playoff numbers, I believe in the last 16 games that he's played. He has a 925 safe percentage with the Bruins. His record in those playoff games seven and nine, so he's got a reason to be pissed. He does have validation in what he's brought to the group. He's been the best Bruin in David hasn't had a goal in fucking 12 years. He doesn't bitch after every game or when they lose and he wins the games for his team. Yeah. Agreed. I was just, I was just bringing some numbers just to maybe why he's frustrated. Now, every reason to be frustrated, but do it in the locker room. Now and Sturm was asked about it and Sturm said, well, I'm glad somebody showed a little bit of fire. So he doubled down with Swainman because I, I would guess that we're in the minority having played saying that's bullshit yelling at his team in front of the cameras, getting off the ice, where I think most fans probably loved it. And then the fans see Sturm back up the comment and the fans, I would say do you guys agree that most Bruins fans loved that Swainman did that? Oh, buddy. They're jerking off. Yes. They're watching that on loop. That is a difference, I think, between having played and not and that's no offense, no shot. It's just kind of how I feel. I do think Sturm is getting a bit out coached here though. Me and R.A. were on the phone last night talking about this. Like I think you're seeing right now, Lindy Roth, 24 years of coaching experience, Marco Sturm won. I don't think it's, it's even close. You see it, you see it in Philly too and in, and in Anaheim Edmonton, like that's why they don't give out the Jack Adams award during the playoffs because you telling me fucking Rick talk it wouldn't get it over Dan Mews after what he's doing right now. He coded, didn't they? That's what I'm saying. That's why they do it before. Oh, oh, you're saying like the playoffs don't count. Yeah. Yeah. All right. I, we need, we need some opinions. Well, we got it, we got it. We got to pump some tires here on Buffalo side boys. All we did was fucking rag on the Bruins. We haven't even talked about Alex Tuck. Like I mean, what the fuck do this guy's had an impact on every single game. He gets the primary tying assist on the stage Thompson goal game one to revive them and on the four check good body puck springs loose. He ends up getting the empty netter, which is the eventual game winner because Boston got a third goal. I mean, let's, let's go down the list. If you're, if you're going to say an Alex, though, it might be Lion King. Oh my god. We're not even, we're not even done with Puck. Yeah. He got the fucking game winner and fucking game three boys in on the four check reverse hit on low right. He fucking, he punted him out of the lineup on that reverse hit and then he kept going in that shift and then he scores the winner. And then what did he do? What did he do? Last game. Fucking great read off the Boston could even make a 10 foot break. Yeah. Set control on us on a set breakout. Tuck just fucking wheels in. He probably called for the reverse gets it fucking no look back. Door dish to Quinn or I think it was Krebs and then top titty the games on. Let's go. Tuck six points right now in the first four games. The way that Buffalo four checks like their sticks. It's Josh Done. It's Benson. It's Tuck. It's Thompson. Like they four checks so well with their sticks. It's incredible. It's forcing Boston to make these bone head plays that they don't usually make like the one on a, I think it was Josh Done's goal. It's like two good, good sticks. You get a turnover. You get a goal. Like they are so good with their sticks. And that's coach and that's Lindy Ruff saying, Hey, get your stick in first. Like a lot of guys, especially in playoffs, you like to go in. You like to hit the glass, make a big boom noise. But no, use your stick. Get your puck on a stick on puck and you're getting turnovers and they're capitalizing on their turnovers. It's, it's, it's truly is like really, really good fundamental for checking the way that they're scoring. I had a, I had a call before about, uh, Daliene, either taking a suspension or somebody taking a suspension on him. We got a little close. Mr. Doral. Yeah. We did. Yeah. We did. Yeah. Everyone gets sick of Dali. But we got to bring in our first guest. Yeah, we do. Cause he's going to have some thoughts. This guy. He's pretty much a carnie himself. Yeah. 100%. Quick break for a message from one of our partners. Stel blue coffees, new can lattes are here, crafted with a 100% Colombian coffee. Each can is a good source of protein and comes in two smooth flavors, espresso cafe mocha and espresso sweet cream. And whether you're braving your morning commute or chasing your pup, Stel blue cans are for those always on the go. And for those who care, Stel blue is more than just great coffee. 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I mean, it's just two totally different worlds. So I haven't been watching, I've watched the series, I haven't been dissecting the games as much because I'm just so focused on obviously one series. But the LA King's last night really shame on them for the performance that they put in Copa Tars last NHL game. I don't know if Kempi's hurt, but that team is, and you know what? All these coaches, they pulled the goalie early now. I don't know if it was 3-1 or 3-2 with 5 minutes left and LA went on the power play and DJ Smith didn't pull his goalie. You're facing elimination, you're done, your season's over. You got to pull the goalie and go 6 on 4 with 5 minutes left in the game. I do not understand it. So yeah, obviously no one's talking about LA because, well, that series is over. And I think Colorado just, they did enough, you know what I mean? When they got pushed on, they raised their level of game. They didn't put too much energy, it wasn't too much of a battle. They're in a good spot. They're in a real good spot. Yeah, very similar to Carolina, too, where they kind of just breeze through. Yeah, some games were a little stressful. Now both of those teams could get 8 days off, right? But I guess the series that you're talking about that you're really dissecting is Tampa Montreal. Right, and you are all in on this this series. What do you think happens in these final three games? What are you looking at as a as a kid if you're a Canadian span? Did you completely blow it and by blowing game forward? Did you blow the series? Oh Man, what a series. Yeah, what a series. I mean all the series are great But these guys after every whistle they want to kill each other St. Louis I'm a huge fan of I'm a huge fan of the Montreal Canadians as a team I think it's interesting that they've gotten good again With minimal French players on their squad. I don't know if that is a hot take or coincidence, but They got some dogs on that team. They got and St. Louis is the best coach in the league Barna, there's no question about it That series is incredible P.K. Sue bands on the train. You know Hangle The fuck it's a joke. It's an anomaly Kutcheroff needs to pick his game up right away, you know Kutcher's he's been good in spots But we need Kutcher who's a little bit more angry Who's slashing guys getting involved a little bit more? I think Braden points game is starting to pick up I think his game is getting better and better as we go along in the series, but Kut, obviously, there's a structure there and those guys are dogs and they ordered the rings way too early in Montreal That is the problem with all these Canadian franchises their fanbase is starved for anything and They win one game you guys all know these series are seven game series and they have to win for and if you don't win for You're probably going step It's just the way this thing works. So that series is incredible. It's incredible I love watching the Tampa Bay lightning plant and I love Montreal Slavkowski. I got to give this kid credit. I mean he's been killed twice in this series And he's still he's still going he's still going So it's going seven. There's no question about it is going seven Listen, how do you obviously the goal tending? I think if it goes seven you have to take Tampa and that if you're splitting the The deck on that one and that I think I don't know where headman is. I don't know what's going on It's done by business. He's skating. I heard okay Okay, I mean how Victor headman wherever he is has to be chopping at the bit to say I'm coming back for six or I'm coming back for seven And if he comes back, that's a major difference maker. Those are major minutes by a Hall of Fame player So I take I take Tampa and seven. I have to That's tough. We asked I asked you know with the guys earlier What it what do you say if you're Marty St. Louis? It's a slowdown haggle What do they have to do as a guy that was a shit disturb a you got guys off there off their game What are you telling your guys to do to get this guy who is absolutely putting his team on his back out of the game? Well, I think you got to pick one player and just and just do a matchup. I Think you have to you know I got this whole theory about we need to bring back the game of the shadow player, you know, the head to head Yeah, absolutely Absolutely if a guy's causing too much problem too much separation, you know the little kid in Buffalo Benson or Krebs Krebs, I don't know anybody's name. I say all their names are off. I think it's Krebs. Welcome to the club That's hard man. There's so many of them And there's a lot of these euro names where it's like who's like who's number 49 for Dallas. It's like Ritz Kovian. That was a tough one. It's Kovian. We get to the age. We get to the sounds like a drug law like a weight-loss drug Doesn't it does By the way, you gotta get on that Ritz Kovian. Yeah What were we talking about? We were talking about Benson in these little routes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and also I think that that Somebody needs to really quickly look at the penalty killing in the league Because Tampa's doing it now now their power place starting to click a little to double loop back the double late guy I think you need to send pk1 with the late guy Because you're flat-footed at the line and the entries. I don't know what the percentages. There's probably a stat but Offensive zone entries on the power plate. It seems like it's got to be 80% Yeah, but aves your so you're saying that you want to loop a killer with the last guy coming up Yeah, but then but then the like then there'll only be three other guys left on the ice and that'll be an either easit Even's easier zone entry like that's the reason they do it Right because if if you swing a guy like so basically now it's a four on three zone entry because you have one guy Swing and all the way down with that late guy Yeah, but I don't have Connor McDavid coming a hundred miles an hour of Braden point or coach or whoever it is You know, but the whole the whole purpose is to just gain zone entry and they I think that you're you have a better chance Having four guys basically it is crazy that In the past few years now it is like they do get in set up every single time If you have one super skilled player you're in the zone now and that was not the case when I came into the leaves Remember there'd be times power plays couldn't even get in the zone Oh, you see the right play was to rim it remember you used to go over the red line rim it like yet Bawk that is yeah same, but when when because I thought barcobs one of the best that getting it in zone And I would be the one dropping into them and there used to be a guy that would cut off behind me as soon as I got to the blue Line Tampa. I believe did it the most where they would have a guy waiting for that That back pass, but the guys now are so good at either going left or right you can make a play and get it to them Yeah, I I don't know I think okay, so segway out of that you got a shadow players You have to shadow players There's matchups that can be had that can you know if you want a shot a guy down Put another guy on them. It is a good point man. We I talked about this earlier this year With little kid hockey and I was considering doing it, but they're eight and I didn't and the kid at eight goals But what if you took What if you took Jake Evans and literally he was standing next to kutra because it's more kutra off to hang up than hang up to me But you stand them and you're like kutra isn't even a touch the puck. He's not it's gonna be four on four I'm yeah, I'm interested because like you just said like now all of a sudden like hegel if you're off to the side It's kind of like when when Colorado if if they're in the ozone they put that third guy high across the blue right Well, all of a sudden they have so many dynamic offensive players where all of a sudden if you have a two on two down low with natious and McKinnon Because you brought a guy high or if you're shadowing hegel and he's like okay, I'm gonna stand off the side and let these other two guys go to work It makes it a little bit harder structurally defensively to shut them down especially when you have dynamic offensive players like kutra off So you have to be careful what you wish for and aves who would be your guy Let's say it's not Evans. Is there another guy that you would maybe sick on on hegel or maybe give one particular line that responsibility to shut him down Because I feel like Suzuki's been a little bit quiet this year like that's the one off 100 points like all fucking much y'all Canadians fans want to do a stroke this guy off and tell us how good he is all time Like he's the most underrated under appreciated guy in the league. Well, now's your time to make your presence felt Well, yeah, uh or you could say the same for let's put Nick Paul on to Caught field or Slikowski And I need just getting dummy Right good, but he's been good, but I need Nick Paul to be better Okay, so who am I picking on Montreal? Um, I mean honestly I don't know they kind of have this team that's sort of layered in the same way You need your best skater and you need a guy that can handle minutes defensively Um, but but kutra is the guy. Yes, you do it on kutra because kutra loses mine He'll either lose his mind or it'll get him so fired up That hill out thank you and he'll use it to his advantage So I agree it's a dangerous game to play you have to pick the right matchups Uh, but but Buffalo comes to mind more because they got a couple of those smaller crafty guys that can really uh that that can really play um, oh, I want to come back to one thing also I believe there were numerous times where Henrik Longquist in the playoffs Did it drive by of our bench? Okay, and his brain exploded and he just Half Swedish half English You fuckers, you know Tighten it up and Hank never said anything ever Ever but I know two occasions where he did do a drive-by and when he drove by the bench You're like oh shit. Oh shit. Okay, you can ask him biz, but I I'm always I need a bit by the time he had done that Uh, keep in mind torts was probably the coach so he can make you go crazy in his own right Uh, what would you compare his resume at the time of doing that compared to where swamon and his resume now? I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't I wouldn't have a comparison like that. They're the starting goalie that That's your guy. And I also mentioned, no, a Stanley Cup winning team that we've seen it done. And that's no shot. I didn't fucking win a Stanley Cup, but the Rangers didn't either. Now was that on was that on long question? No, that was not at all on long question. He won year when we were playing Pittsburgh, he flipped the net off of the mornings, the one year, and but didn't call anybody out, but you know, he was pissed like he was saying, it's like, okay, the big fellow is pissed off. We get a fucking shape up. So there's other ways to go about it. Is that what you're trying to say? Well, no, I'm saying that, you know, I, you're okay with it. I'm okay with it. Of course, of course. And would it have to be, you're saying you're okay with the goalie or the star, the best player on the team? Do you understand? Or are you okay with anyone on any team in front of the cameras and in front of the crowd on the ice, given it to their bench? No, I only did it. Everybody got pissed, remember? Yeah, because he was, he was saying, he wasn't doing any of that stuff. He was saying, buddy, right. Come on, come on. We're talking about a guy, we're talking about a guy who, who I don't think he had a fucking, I don't think he had one goal in games, five, six and seven throw the last 21 games of his Leafs career and playoffs. Come on, we're talking about apples and apples and oranges here. No, I think your goalie gets a pass. Okay. I think, I think the goalie gets the pass. I do. I mean, the buck stock stops with him, you know, sometimes they're just too dialed in. It's not in their nature, like Vasilevsky. I don't think I've ever seen him do that, but holy fucking Tampa, Tampa Montreal, what a series. It's incredible. It's incredible. And we got to move on to another one that's over. It's almost, it's tough to have a lot to say on this series. It's more of what will happen in Ottawa after, but I'll start with this. Carolina is legit. They're for real. They're, they're, they just, they just are in your face. You can't get anything accomplished. And the fact is that I picked Ottawa in seven and I, I made it, I made it up a point to say that's if all Mark plays great. Guys, all Mark, all Mark 931 first game save percentage, 939 gave to 926 game three, 929 game four. Alma, if you told me that through four games, those were going to be all Mark's numbers. And that Ottawa wouldn't win one game. The offense disappeared. And when I tell you, Aves, I've never seen a five on three. That is that bad. They had four of them. And I don't know if they got a shot through games three and four. And I'm talking not like 20 seconds on the five on three. Like a minute 17 where they couldn't even make a pass. And I don't know what happened. I, uh, where was stutzle, where was Brady, all these guys, they just offensively, they dried up. I think if you told the entire league that all Mark would have those numbers, they'd say, Oh, fuck, that's two two through game four. And it was a sweep and give credit, give credit to Carolina, man. They, Nikesh and gets knocked out. Game four was a brave heart battle scene. Okay. And Ottawa was actually Aves. I'll go to you because biz made a hell of a rant on TNT. You played on the edge. What did you think of that Ridley Greg hit? And that's a bunch. Well, I was the first to go live with it because I don't have barriers, right? I have the pointer stick, my Instagram. So I'm in. All right. I, that was incredible. I mean, I thought it was a body shot, a closer examination, and maybe it was a chin shot. That was, that was, I'm all for it. I mean, I don't. Okay. Okay. I'm not. Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. I mean, that, that was a wild. What a fucking punch. Look at that view. Look at that still image. Just a wind up as a guy's wrapped up with somebody and a straight sucker punch. It goes back to when Bobby Clark baseball battered the Russian and the ankle knocked him out of the 72 summits years. And they won the next three games. That is hockey. Now, biz, you disagreed. You were disgusted with it. Yeah. I think that's fucking bullshit. What do you mean? I mean, I kind of even get a little bit annoyed by all the scrums, too. I wasn't a big scrum guy. I was like, let's fucking do this. Let's just fight. What do you mean, Aves? What do you mean? Well, the scrums are the best part. I mean, much. No, no, no, no, no, no, the fighting's the best part. No, no, I disagree. I disagree with you. Hagel punching out Slav Koski, as opposed to just seeing stinky mitts for fucking five minutes till everybody collects their gloves and sticks and we could drop the puck again. If you want to fucking go, go, go. You sound like torts. You sound like what do you mean? I sound like torts. I understand the mental game. It's not like I'm being heard. Understand the mental game. Do you understand the mental game? Yeah, I do. I'm also, I was just being a hypocrite. I'm not being a hypocrite. I would have rather just fought than scrummed it up going like this the whole time. No, and you're and and when, listen, and whatever, I'm not saying I'm not okay with the scrums. Go scrum it up, but if you want to give a guy a couple little rabbit punches in the back of the head, while everybody's linked up, that yeah, that's fine. But when Fogel's got Walker in a headlock, and you go like this, like that, that's, that's a suspension to me. That's fucking bullshit. As entertaining and as much as like, yeah, I'm on TNT saying that should be a five gamer. I'm also saying, oh my god, this is fucking amazing. And this is entertaining because I have no skin in the game. But this is bullshit. And if it happened to me, I would, I would probably, if I played against them again, if we were in the minors and maybe there weren't as many cameras around, I would probably have my butt end out and look to catch them on the jaw and hopefully the refs don't see me. Like, I'm looking for massive retribution. If that happens to me, to the point where I said, I might even be at the other locker room after the game waiting for the guy and saying, let's go fucking figure this out in the parking lot. You fucking scumbag. I never did what he did in my entire playing career. I never did that. The worst thing I ever did was I bit a guy's finger, but he tried to fish up. So if somebody puts a finger in your mouth, Dave's, I mean, listen, you might like that kind of thing. I don't mind it once in a while either, but not on the ice, not on the ice. No, I, I agree with you. I agree with you. Here's what I'll say is that I have personally and Brady Kachuk. I'll tell you a quick story. I think we were playing Buffalo in the second round. Game one. I don't have any points. I'm playing on a line with Shanny and might have been me, Shanny and Yogs. I can't remember exactly, but it was Shanny for sure. And he took me out for lunch after game one because I was ashamed of myself. That I went pointless in game one and I wasn't effective. I was ashamed of myself. Okay, my fucking world was over. And he talked me off the ledge and said series are seven games. And the momentum can change immediately. You come back. You have a big game too. What the fuck? How does Brady Kachuk sleep at night, putting a series up on the board like that? Like, don't you say after game one or definitely game two. Okay, I am going to completely dominate game three, whatever I have to do. And this is where it comes back to the scrums. The scrums to me, when I played the way I played, that was, that was beauty because every single time we had a scrum, I could get global chuck. Even more mad, I could whisper something to him in his ear. I could fucking, I could light the lamp inside of his head continually. It's like, it's like when boxers come together and they're dirty boxing, that's what I like to see. This is the type of game that I like to see because who's going to keep their shit together, but also be able to push the envelope as far as it can possibly go after every fucking whistle. And so yeah, I mean, the the Greg kid. And by the way, it was the most electric moment of television that you and Anson Carter have ever had arguing on TNT about that punch. Oh, buddy, entertainment value. Give me that every fucking playoff game. But the act itself, you have to call it out, Aves. Like, if somebody did that to you, Aves, what would you want? Oh, fuck off. This is the playoff. I mean, what where's your moral compass? This is ridiculous. I just told you I never did. Aves, I know, but I never did that. So you would have been in the box with that guy losing your mind. Yeah. If that guy didn't know, Aves, you'd be digging up so much information on that guy's personal life and his wife that like you fucking you hired a private investigator like variables old lady. Yeah. Well, I wouldn't is that who hired the investigator? I don't know. I'm just speculation. That's speculation. I do think that if if Walker had been knocked out and then landed on his face, it's probably 25 games suspension. He might still get five. Yeah. No, Aves, let me hear it from you. What do you what do you think that you think no discipline? Five five thousand dollar fine for fucking giving a guy an uppercut? I mean, the season's over. They got embarrassed. Let's talk about the little guy on Carolina and how I think he's unbelievable. Third lines are. And if you're going to go to their second line, they're the second line. Yeah. Jordan stalls third line. I didn't remember. Jordan stalls the third line. Centeraves. That's how cold I am. Thanks, Colvin. Stan Colvin had been playing second line center all year. I think he put up 40 points, not to say points or everything. I was a little concerned thinking, oh, fuck, they want to go on a deep run, moving this guy to center for the first year. year, what is this guy going to do? Come playoff time and question Tulski and that decision and not pushing all of this chips in. Holy fuck, because he and that fan base made me look fucking dumb. All of us really, all of us. Well, he's one round at the same time. That's, that's, that's fine. But he's also not being paid a hell of a lot of money. And Taylor Hall was supposedly on the back half of his career, the back nine. Well, they had seven goals combined in that series. Check your line. They didn't even need their first line. And if you remember Jason Blake is he was good, man. He had I think he had a couple 40 goal years and he was a rat. I think his son's better than him. That kid is nasty, man. That's his son. Yes. Yes. And he played two years at North Dakota. And he came right out of college ready to go. His stats have gotten better each year. And he's a rat too. And that line is humming. And the fact is that they got through with ease without much from a hoe and Jarvis and Svetschnikov. And they're going to at some point pop off. So yeah, you brought up Stan Kovan off the hop here. I don't think they have the death to push it. There's no third although. Yeah. I'll say I am, I am 1000% a believer now in the care of my hurricane. Okay. And I think the narrative of that they're boring. Yeah. There's been some series in the past where it's been brutal. Like I'm no interest. But they provided more entertainment than a lot of teams in the first round against the auto center. If anybody's to blame for being boring, it's the fucking scumbags of Ontario. If we're going to bring the scumbag word back up because that's what they performed in game four. They didn't lead for one second of that series. Carolina, Carolina outchanced them on auto was power play for the series. They had one power play goal. Carolina had a shorthand of goal. Auto was power play finished even for the fucking series. Oh, outside of outside of all Mark, that was the most embarrassing playoff performance I have ever seen. Oh, auto was auto was an embarrassment and not I'll take it a step further. Brady Kachak, all his bullshit about being so sad that he has to watch his brother. And I thought it was funny that's a Matthew. He kind of took a shot at auto. I said, I'm not going to go watch him in Ottawa. So he went and watched him on the road. I think on our show. Yeah. And our show goes, I ain't going to Ottawa. Yeah. Who's that? I mean, that was a clear cut. That was a shot at auto. I mean, his brothers were a pro-Kachak playoff or we're a pro-Kachak podcast. So we don't we don't tend to rag on the conchucks here. Well, let's do it because Brady, I mean, we have to address this. He needs to think he would if I did. He's got to go. Oh, you want the question. So that's been brought up a lot. Is he going to be there next year? It's kind of like, wow, we're like pumping Carolina's tires. That's the story. That's a big, big discussion. This offseason. But I think business, as much as we love those guys, I think even Brady would say, fuck, man, I didn't have it this round. I didn't have it. I don't know. He couldn't get anything going and he starts off with the fight with stall. And I respected that. I like that. All right. Let's get this series going and it, it just fired up Carolina. I mean, it's not just Brady. All these guys, they're just pathetic and stutzel. Is he a playoff type player? I don't know. Man, he's fucking one of the fastest players in the league. A little perimeter. He didn't get anything accomplished. But what, what I want to talk about to in this series is the handshake line boys. Aves, did you see? I think that's being blown out of proportion. They'd already shaken. They've already shaken hands. So you think Travis Green was just, it wasn't anger. It was just a, okay. But I reached out to our boy trip. And I said, hey, I said, are they making something extra this? I know they already shook hands after the game right by where like the coaches walk out of the door. So it obviously looked like, like broad brinda more was pissed because it looked like he threw Travis, Travis Green's hand away. I don't think that that, I don't think that's anything there. I think it's being blown out of proportion. And then the fact that like people are saying that like he stubbed Mike, yo, I don't know. So they'd already shaken hands though. You're saying? That's, that's the, I did a little digging on it. Now, okay, nothing, but you don't dig, you don't dig, but. Well, I, I dug because everybody was making a big deal about it. So I wanted to come on the podcast and be prepared to talk about it. That's a pro move. Trip's going to try to, you know, downplay it too to not get the shit going first. So you think that there's something there? I mean, I don't know. Didn't do any digging, but it sure looked like there was the way that they, that handshake was. I agree. I mean, do you think Rod's not pissed off that how many players did he lose in that series? Two, definitely, I thought it was valid and Euler. No, it's Nikkei, Nikkeesha, Nikkeesha, Nikkeesha, I get those mixed up all the time. That hit boys, that was one of the biggest hits. I think they're both around 230 clean it. It was clean it. Yeah, it was crumb wall. Pick your head up and what's amazing is our buddy Brandon Yips sent me a video of a Nikkeesha hit in the KHL against the Shanghai dragons or whatever the cone moon red star. It was bigger than that one. There's some little Chinese kid. That one was huge. You got to post that. That's one of the biggest, he's he's scorpion dumb. It was the same exact hit. And Nikkeesha got clever. But man, I, I think Dolore, I think if he'd gotten on the ice, he might have ripped Ridley Gregg's head off. Like I'm talking like the mountain. Well, he was on the ice. Oh, he was on the he was on the ice there, but he was tied up with Brady Kachak closer towards the bench. Okay. I like. He didn't he didn't see that with he was tied up when that punch took place in the afterward afterward. He was like by their bench like yellow and at them. Perfect game for Dolore to be put in. I don't know if you saw him walk in pregame. He looked like a refrigerator. I didn't know he looked like that off the ice when you were saying it. I was like, what the fuck? He like 240 and he had the vaseline on his face. Like, you probably used to do waves. They should honestly, he should really think about it at a certain point. I don't know how much longer he's going to play, but you remember the mountain on Game of Thrones? Yep. Dolore is way scarier than that guy. Oh yeah. He looks like the Rock Lesnar's kid. Yeah. If he can if he can string a sentence together and hold a frame, he should really think about act it because that's a face. I mean, you just don't have that. Imagine you saw that guy in a in a haunted house or a dark alley. Oh, we fuck. He's terrifying or on a mountain in armor. My god. But I want to come back to Travis Green for a second. Please. I like Travis Green. But Travis Green, you got to go, bro. You can't get if you can't get fucking Kachak and Stutzle and these guys playing. You're out. I got no use for you. Same with the guy in L.A. Smith, DJ Smith. I played against Smith and juniors. I he played hard. He played hard. But if you can't get your troops fired up, you're fucking gone. I don't know. The reason I disagree, man, is they dealt with a lot of injuries on the back end. They still got into playoffs. Like the no Sanderson thing was just the death blow. And then Shabbat is pretty obviously playing through something bad. And he was giving it what he could, right? I mean, they they were they were down men and they needed everyone to be. What did they boys? What did they finish on the power play? And like, listen, like the only thing I'm going to say about Brady is like, I I feel like he had one foot on the way out. Okay. So let me ask you, is Brady on the senators next year? No, not a fucking chance. 4.8% on the power play. 4.8%. That's my percentage in picking and making calls this playoff. And I'm a failure. That biz. I agree with you, though. I don't see him back there. I don't see it. And I and I don't see. I don't think that this should be put on Travis Green. I think that all things considered with the power play being that percent, like what what were the difference in goals in the series? I feel like every game was like a one goal game, right? Up until the last one. But how did how did auto have us all so full that going into the series? Because because the advanced stats, which say what you want? When they got goal tending, they were good. They were not just good. They were like top 17 in the league. And then they got then they got the best goal tending. They've had all year for four days. And you take away when you didn't believe in the Keynes either. You guys don't believe them. You guys think they're a joke. Trip came on here and told you that your takes were laughable. Wait. What do you mean? You put you were the same. You were with us. You just said you changed your mind. You had the king. You had the king of Ontario hat on you jerk. You just you just at the beginning of this segment said, I'm a believer now and I wasn't before. I picked them to win the series though. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Hold on. Top 24 hours for you, buddy. Oh, I'm a believer. But I said I'm a believer in a sense. I think they can win a Stanley Cup. That's what I'm a believer in. I pick them to win the series. I knew they were going to stop them. I knew Ottawa was a joke. That's why I kept saying leafs are king of Ontario. And this this series couldn't have been played anymore perfectly for me to prove the point as much of a laughing stock is the senators want to label them Toronto made beliefs. Look at the season they have. the amount of rumors and bullshit off the ice trying to torture their captain for being proud to be an American for starting rumors about their fucking gold tender for them dragging him through the mud because he won a little bit of rest. It was a fucking three rings and send in the singer to Thailand. Don't forget that. They sent one of their clients to get executed in another country halfway around the world. Did you see the video Blutman found if he did it in 2017 too? So he's done it three times. Not just twice Kyle Ivan kicked out of SENS nation. I believe her life. Oh, yeah. So here's a take. Here's a take. Guys. Okay. We got we got Brady Kachuk. We got Jack Hughes. There's a couple American players that obviously they won the Olympic gold that came back to their team and really didn't step up the way that they needed to be counted on. Okay. This is a brand in Hagle or who else who out some of the other Canadians that have come back. Sam McCarran and McKinnon have ever been amazing, but LA was an HL team. Sandheim's been amazing. You know, you got a question. Let's just really kill it back and go, what's that all about? What's that all about? Because there's some Canadians that are rolling and there's going to be some Canadians that are on teams that win Stanley Cups that are huge, huge parts of it. And that's a big, you got, you got Matthew Brady. Who else off that team Jack came back? Michael's been a little, little off in this series, I'd say in Utah, Vegas, who didn't make the playoffs. Who else didn't make the playoffs off that team? A big shot. We're going to point. We're going to point now. I was going to correct you. Like Jack Hughes is pretty light out when he came back from from Olympic. I think he had 45 points to close out the year, but yes, they didn't make playoffs. I agree with you and all that, but I don't think he's a guy that's what I'm talking about. It's not just about the points, like Brady didn't do enough to lead his team. He did not do enough to lead his fucking team. So, so where does he go? Do you, do you want him on the Rangers now? Because I'm a little, I mean, obviously, I, I, I know, I believe in him as a player. But am I going to take a big swing and say, you know what? I think this is a cornerstone piece to the future of our organization. He hasn't done a fucking thing really in the NHL going to be on the Panthers, but who could, who could have done anything for that team to get past Caroline in that series? They would, they scored four goals. Well, you need individual efforts. You need individual efforts, you got to sometimes put teams on your back and carry them into tough barns and, and, and, and do whatever he needs to do. Take the focus off everyone else and put it on him and be that dog. And I didn't see an ounce of that. You need a score. You need a score. You need a score. Yeah. It comes down to like, you can run around and you could be physical. It's not just Brady. It's everyone like, if you don't get points and you don't score at the end of the series and you're making the money and you're the captain, the fingers going right at you. You need to lead by example because I also think we're focusing a lot on, on the negativity in Ottawa. And it's Carolina. Caroline is awesome. Dude, they're awesome. They're awesome. Let's fuck it. Talk about it. Anderson, unbelievable. Carolina will get shit kicked by Tampa. Okay. So if they get there, I listen, I'm, I'm all in on Carolina, man. What a, what a resilient group what, Rod, Rod has these guys firing on all cylinders. He's got them bought in everybody knows their role. They just dummyed a team that you guys thought that they were going to lose to in four games. They didn't lead for a second after all the penalties that they took and all the bullshit that they dealt with. I didn't get coaches. These coaches are also brain dead. Honestly. Here's how you win. You get the puck behind the other teams D if LA had a fucking hope of winning one game. They would have said at the start of the series, every time you get to the red line and Panarin is a dog. What a horse shit. What a fucking joke. I watched him last night yesterday. He is embarrassing. They just gave him 22 million for two more years. When you get to the red line, you dump box in and you get behind their D. You fucking hit McCarr every chance that you get. Okay. So in Montreal, Lane Hudson. You hammer, hammer, hammer him every single time you have an opportunity. You put him through the fucking boards because seven games is two weeks. It's 20 days, whatever it is. And you need to turn it into a nightmare for defense. So the teams that are going to win are going to do that. I don't know. Carolina did. That's what they did. You can't you can't break out against the Maves. Yeah. You can't get out of the zone against them. So you're saying they're doing exactly what you need to do. And then, you know, the auto with D and there's a lot of other teams D that you can't do it. But look at Florida. And I guess in your opinion, what Tampa would do is they would just pound them. And that's the only way you're going to beat them is beat the fuck out of them. And auto would try it and they couldn't do it. Yeah. Well, they didn't try it the right way. They didn't get the puck behind their D enough. And whoever's going to play Colorado. I watched Colorado's got some, man, they're very good. And you can wear on Macar. You can make it painful on him. You got who else is their D? Malinsky. They got Brent Burns. They got made Manson who's who's who suffered injury. Devon Taves. Devon Taves. They have an unreal D core. And quickly before we get before we get there, sorry, though. But in terms of the Carolina's defense, because we just brought up Nikesh and getting knocked out. I got to give some credit to the former ranger, Kyandre Milliman, that was, you know when you say we've said hall fits in perfect as a Carolina hurricane and Taylor Hall said it himself Miller's the same way. Like, I think he's similar to slave and not as good, but just makes the right play. He can skate all their D can skate that Sean Walker moves like he's like the window there. So they have all these mobile guys, right, that have great sticks. None of them are super offensive besides ghost. And then he's on the third pair and it's just built the correct way. And if Anderson plays like this, that is the one thing. If Anderson keeps up like this, yeah, they can win the cup. Now Anderson, Anderson at times, I think has as shown week goals go in. I like it. You know what though? But they got, but they got bussy. They got a two goal. He's just a buddy. They got bussy back. Come up. Does them not, I mean, they scored 11 goals in the series nine five on four, or they had two empty net goals. So nine, not with an empty net. Does that scare you scoring nine goals in a series against a team that we clearly do just saw they all class them. Yeah, but I mean, it goes, but other teams are going to score other teams are going to score. Yeah. Okay. Okay, our other goal, our other goal is going to play as well as all Mark, bro. That's it. There's your answer. Well, yeah, goal Tedding's going to get better, piss. Uh, what was, what was all Mark's safe percentage average nine thirty now? I don't know if you, you, you, you might, you might get that. Well, clearly it wasn't good enough. I mean, he didn't pitch a shutout. He didn't pitch to, I mean, you got to fucking, but, but, but, but, but, but, but the conversation that Yann's brought up is are they going to be able to outscore teams moving forward? And I said, well, they generated a ton. They got their great A's all, uh, uh, all Mark was shooting fucking, uh, Roman candles out of his assholes, keeping them in the game. And, and yeah, I think that they're going to be able to score. I think that they're going to drum who they play next. I was just going to ask you, I think they're going to drum who they play. Oh, okay. So Philly Pittsburgh looks like Philly's going to win that series. You think they just drum Philly. I would say it goes, I would say no waves, no Philly's doing what Philly's doing right now. I think Philly wins. I think Philly wins that series in seven business. Right now, you're picked to come out of the east of Carolina, Harcans, um, I think Buffalo would work them if they made it to the, I think Buffalo would scare me, Buffalo would scare me. Okay. This for anybody like knocking Carolina and the people who are picking against them in the first round and like the fact that all of their boring, I just, I'm way more all in right now on the Carolina Hurricanes than I ever have been in the past. I think the fact that they did what they did to Ottawa and their first line wasn't even a factor in a, in a, in an offensive scoring sense, like Jarvis was quiet. I think Aho is pretty quiet up until the empty enters, at least as far as point production, what I am proud at is Svetchnikov, the response after the club and hit and, and the dog, the, the amount of dog in him that has been gained over the last few years, like I think Svetch, I think there's going to be a massive, massive moment for Svetch, this playoff. I think he's going to come out of his shell and you're to say holy fucking shit. That's the power forward and the guy they've been missing this entire time and there, there's been a big evolution in his game. I think that the Carolina, I would be willing to say the Carolina Hurricanes are going to stand the couple. Okay. All right. So that said, and I think that should lead us over into the discussion of Philly Pittsburgh. I don't think anyone, I mean, I guess going into game four, a lot of people did think they pulled a sweep off there at home. The crowd's incredible. I had to think Crosby wasn't going down like that, right? He gets the, he gets the nice goal, nice little dish there. I think it was, did Carlson give them? that little past to him, one time or Pittsburgh stays alive. Now they're going home. Okay. Now Philly. It's the hardest game to win. Aves, you know that to close it out. Now they're in Pittsburgh where they walked all over them in Pittsburgh. It wasn't even close. Game two was an embarrassment. What ends up happening in game five? Does Pittsburgh continue this? They got the momentum now. Cross be showing up. Or is it finally the time that Philly moves on? I don't know what to think going into this game. Five boys. Well, Philly doesn't have what it takes to win the Eastern Conference, but they're proving to themselves as a team that they can win and they're understanding what the level needs to be at to win big games. And by the way, let's bring it back to Sid. Sid dominated that game. Let's say he put the team on his shoulders and he won that game. That's what you're supposed to do when you're the fucking star of the team. You have to do that at least twice in a series to win. That is the difference. That's how you win the Stanley Cup. So when I talk about guys like Hagel or somebody told me that a Vassalevsky's got Vesna numbers from the regular season. So you guys are all fucking you're all yip yapin and about Carolina. You got a Vesna winning winning goal tender playing lights out right now with headman possibly coming back. And you're talking about Carolina winning the East. Get fucked. What are you analyzing? Well, well, Dave's like they would still have to pass all Mark. You're talking about all Mark. They would they would still have to get past Buffalo and Montreal. That's a tough. That's a tough. I agree. I agree. So that won't that wouldn't be their matchup until the Pittsburgh was a lame duck. So it's tough to say Philly's got what it takes. They're they're winning the series. No question. Can you ride some of these young guys that get hot? We've all seen it. You know, something happens when these kids come in and they just don't have the pressure and they're playing free. That first playoff run. Yeah, no fear. And that's dangerous. That is dangerous. So that could push them a little bit and connect. He could say, you know what? I want to become a fucking superstar right now. This is the playoffs where I become a superstar in the entire elite. And you don't know what happens when a guy makes that decision. Unlike fucking stuital and Brady Kachak, who just, I mean, Brady needs to go have a long, long chat with himself. I'm telling you, Lynn, and if the Rangers want to go and make that stupid move to get Brady Kachak, oh, thank you. Okay. I don't know what we were talking. No, we were talking Philly. And listen, I think Flyers fans have been disgusted. And I'll give him credit in terms of like, they're up three. Oh, and the main conversation is like, should meech call be in the lineup? Well, there was a reason it was being brought up because he's out of the lineup. Okay. Kind of, I understand not doing it before game four. You haven't lost the game. How can you switch the lineup? I get it now. Philly fans are a little disgusted, but they're trying to balance how happy they are with being up three, one, and they're disgusted. Mechkov isn't going to be playing. I get that this is not the biggest storyline. The storyline is Owen Tippett and Porter, Mark Tone and how zegrous, who with the great, with the great regular season, you may be, you're maybe like, oh, what's he going to do in the playoffs? Different style hockey? He's been excellent. He's been excellent. So the Flyers, they just have so much good judo around their team and good momentum that I think talkets. I boys, we weren't going to win this thing in four. This was never going to be a sweep. And there's like, seems to be zero panic with that room. Why would there be? And going into game five, I, I don't know what's going to happen, but it's Philly closest thing. This thing. Oh, there's no surprise, no surprise whatsoever. It's also learning lessons too, right? With the young team like that, how to close out series there. They're hopefully, you know, with the way that they've looked the last half of the year that they're going to be playoff contenders every single year, especially under talk like they've been great. But it's learning and trying to close out Sidney Crosby, one of the best players to ever fucking lace up the boots. So it's, I think for them, this game is huge. What you'll see from them. I don't disagree with the Meech God thing. I think having Mark Tone there, it kind of probably takes a little heat off of them with the fans because I feel like they could probably switch on them as much as they do love them. Now that they have Mark Tone, you can just kind of ride his coattails. But this team's been fun to watch, man, and you got to give a lot of credit to Sanheim and Ristalline and what they've been able to do to the big dogs are like, back there, they can skate, they can defend and, and, and business boy of liddard holding, holding down the four. Did you see biz the slash Ristalline and gave Crosby when he was laying on the ice? Yeah. I mean, that's just like, people, people come back. Like you, you, you said the word scumbag in our group text the other day. I've said it for seven years, seven years. And I'm like, I ended up saying it on TV. So people think it's just be who said it. Where I'm like, we're pretty much all in agreement that these, that organization is full of scumbags in a complimentary way. Like people also forget like we played for the penguins, right? I played in the A cell against the phantoms at that old bar next door. What was it called again? The spectrum spectrum on the spectrum. I had fucking guys running me through the end wall. I had, I think the guy's last name was Grant. Fucking through grade three MCL spraying fucking dirty need of me. Like I want to know all, all, all those meet heads. Oh, no, no. There's no question. Let's say the, the city of Philadelphia and the Philadelphia Flyers fan base are the grisiest fucking rude, obnoxious assholes in the entire NHL. And that says a lot coming from you, apes. They are the worst. I played there a lot. I had, they threw, they throw quarters at you and trying to take your eye out when you're walking down into the tunnel. I used to get changed throwing at us at the spectrum. Yeah. They're the fucking worst. But that's what makes them great. Yep. And again, zegrist. Let's talk about zegrist. Here's a guy. Here's a fucking guy that says, I want to be a dog. We're watching a guy unravel, unpeel himself, whatever catapillard does when he turns into a fucking butterfly. Zegrist is doing it in front of us. Everyone else again, Brady could chuck get fucked. Trevor Zegrist. Talk about a guy breaking out and, and showing you what it's all about. And, and I'm not going to question talk because we're not in the room. So if Mechkov needs a wake up or he can't play right now because he's just not at the level, then that's talk's decision. He's not a guy that you'd rather have zegrist than Brady could chuck. Oh, in a fucking million years, based off of four, three, four playoff games. And the second half of the kid's season, absolutely dog. Oh, are you joking? No, I'm going to go take a hose. Yans and Aves can go at it. I'm going to go. This is getting uncomfortable for me. Yeah, I'd rather Brady, of course. Oh, no, guys. No, no, no. I mean, shout out to Zegrist. He's been playing great. He's been unreal into talk. Sometimes a guy needs a different, a different coach, a different setting. And it's been great for him. He's been amazing. But to say that is a wild statement. Do you see? Well, let's see. Do you see Zegrist's body like his, his vibes right now? Well, the play was confident. They're winning auto. We couldn't even get a fucking shot on. Well, that's, that's the problem. That is the problem. It's not because they were physically dominated. We have physical parity in the NHL. Okay. You can go out there and be a one man show and take over games. And Zegrist is dominating right now. Would we say that he's not one of the best players? He's been great. He's been awesome. Now I don't think Pittsburgh is Carolina. So it's like if he was doing this against Carolina, just a, just a team who smothers you to death, I'd be like, holy shit. There's a lot of open ice. And the way the penguins are playing, I could see him having way more of an impact than in a tight checking just Carolina hurricane in your face type series. Oh, imagine Philly Tampa. What a fucking series that would be. That's a fun series. That would be a fun one. That would be, that would be sick. I mean, I respect a she loves comes. And he looked good. That can switch up some momentum. Get the new goalie in for Pittsburgh. I want to see. I want to see pits. Hey boys, if Pittsburgh can get it done at home. Yeah, I thought all of a sudden it's a little panic. The tang's been off. He scored a big goal, but he's not been. I thought he retired years ago. I swear to God, I was watching the game. I was embarrassed to myself thinking Jesus Christ shot. I go, that's fucking let's hang. He's still playing. Yeah, he played all season. He took a lead. He had something going on a couple of years ago, right with. Didn't he have something crazy? He said something. He had an issue with his heart at one point. Yes, yes, penguins fans have been on the little tanks, little tanks case this round. It's scored that big goal on a beautiful guy, a beautiful kick pass by Crosby. That was kind of sick. All right, Dave, we have Eric Johnson coming on to this has been great. Hey, chickens fans, we're going to take a quick break for a message from one of our partners. Football is back. And with draft King sports book September comes with a boost. All September long opt in and get a 50% profit boost every game day with the draft King's game day [BLANK_AUDIO] new Draft King sportsbook customers sign up with a code BSS and get 50% profit boost every game day. That's code BSS and partnership with Draft Kings. The crown is yours. 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What is this? Oh, that's the thing. That's the banana hammock. Holy shits. Thanks. Wow. Go check what they've outscored the Vegas gold night since I throw this thing on. If final question. Who's winning the cup? Carolina. That's the road back. Carolina. Oh, shit. I can't too much clarity. No answer. No answer. What about the finals? No cake of the finals too much parody. Too much. His headman coming back is the question. I know. Fucking if you want to don't avoid it. If he's coming back. Look out. All right. Look out and Brandon angle. My guy from day one. Let's go. Johnny, everyone. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. We'll talk to you soon. We're going to bring on Eric Johnson. We got to talk. Oh, West a little bit. But hey, Chico fans, we're going to take a quick break for a message from one of our partners. The course is calling and your Chevy equinox can take on whatever the day throws at you. Stylish and ready for anything. Equinox handles your commute weekend trips. 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As you guys know, when you retire, it's kind of there's a lot of uncertainty and, you know, I knew I wanted to stay involved in the game and I had to talk with Danny Breer. Well, maybe doing some stuff with the flyers, but the TV thing popped up and I just thought like you stay close to the game. You know, I knew I want to stay involved in the NHL. And for me, the biggest thing was, is it going to be hard being between the benches being that close to the game so quickly out of retirement? Like, am I going to miss it? Is it going to be hard to be out there? But it's actually been the opposite, guys. Like, I think it's been such a great transition to stay that close to the game. And I don't think maybe that would be the case for everybody, but for me, it's been unbelievable. I've really loved it. Love the travel, love hockey. Love the people I've been working with. And just it's been a really a blessing to be able to stay involved in the game like this. It's been a ton of fun. Do you almost feel like it's easier because you're hockey knowledge from just like getting out of playing is like, you know, your your brains essentially firing on all cylinders. So to be able to like talk about it and break it down for the people at home, the transition has been nice where you just didn't take this like layover. Yeah, like I think the thing for me, Biz, was I wanted to enjoy life a little bit to first year of retirement. So I wasn't super busy the first half of the year. My schedule was kind of packed towards the second half, which has been awesome. Like I got to do a bunch of shit I could never do as a player at that time of year in the fall and the winter and earlier in the spring. So that was great to be able to enjoy life a little bit too. And then just going right from the ice to the microphone has been way easier than I thought I think like you said, it's it's easy because I know all the players right now. I think it'll probably get harder as it goes because you don't have those relationships. You're not sure. No, it actually gets easier to start carving guys the more and more. But now we got everyone. Oh, he's over ready. Yeah, exactly. But no, like that's it's miss. You have to critique your buddies, right? That's that's can be difficult. Right. So that's the hard part. You mentioned like doing things you weren't ever able to do when you were a player. Like some people like obviously skiing is something you can't do for you. You're posting a lot about your your love for wine and then also horses. And we've talked about that before what sort of things were you doing in the first half that you weren't able to do while playing. Yeah, so I like bird hunting. I went on a quail hunt in Georgia. My buddy's got a plantation. You know what a fucking quail is. It's a little bird. It's from like a from a movie. That's what wedding crashes. Oh, yeah, he's got a big big place down there. So we we hunted on horseback for quail with his dog. Oh, it was fantastic. And then I got to play Augusta for the first time. Oh, fuck. Did you pull that with? We're not getting to Utah Vegas and Minnesota Dallas because we're going whole by whole. I'm sorry. How did you drinking through the thing right now? How did you pull that off? So there's a there's a buddy of mine who's a member out there and he's said for your retirement. I'm going to take you down to Augusta. So we flew down there. The three three Denver guys and Dustin Lynch, the country singer came with. So we had a we had a good time down there. And it's everything. It's cracked up to be the food. Like it's so proper. You had to show up in a a coat and tie and you can't go anywhere with your cell phone. It's crazy. But it's a spectacular place and didn't embarrass myself too bad. I did. Skull one out of the bunker on the first hole into the grandstand though. So not ideal. But it was fun with what a retired after year four of somebody promised him that, but speaking of like, you know, what you shoot. Yeah. The first day I shot 85 a second day. I shot step first day. Yeah. You got to play it twice. No, he's there for a week. You usually go down and you get you get to play. Stay over and play again. I think that's kind of standard. I got cottages on on property. And um, yeah, 79 the second round. 79 the second. Wow. That's awesome. It jumped out for eagle on 15 still. Pist that one down my leg. But wow, man. Yeah, it was it was a great time. Just, uh, it's as special as he as you would think. So I was pretty, pretty lucky to be able to go. Man, that's awesome. You deserve that. Good for you. Um, all right. Back to the hockey quick. Let's start here. Uh, what series have you done so far? What have you done a game for which series? I did games one and two Dallas, Minnesota, and then I did game two Colorado LA. And then I'll do some second round games. And I don't have anything past that. But, um, yeah, it's been fun. That, I mean, that Dallas, Minnesota series has been we should start there. Okay, let's go there. I'm going to make a statement. And any of you guys you can disagree. Game four for the Minnesota wild was the biggest game in franchise history. Yes. Absolutely. By a mile, by a mile. And were they going to go down three one and Minnesota wild fans, EJ before the game. We're going to lose this game. This is what we do. Minnesota sports and Felino over the top of art and your berries it and Matt Bull, the EJ, we have an American super blown superstar. And he's one of those guys that you could always kind of see it playing against them. It was just when is he going to break out, right? Like this kid is, and I interviewed him after the game, he's a big dude, man. Like, I didn't know he was that big, but his skill set for a guy that size. Fuck, is he fun to watch? I mean, Caprice off. If they can get one more center, like everyone's been bitching about, they need a center, they need a center, they need a center. I mean, they can be a contender for a long time. That, that favorite he was bearing might be the best in the league. I mean, I probably give the edge to McCartan Taves, but I wouldn't. Pairing is fun to watch, man. I wouldn't. And, and quickly, Boldie could, Boldie would give you six on the front, six on the back and still beat you on the 14th of all. That's the most incredible part about him, best golfer in the NHL. So I digress the Augusta talk got me just like a little, I got some blood flow here. If, okay, now you're going back to Dallas, right? So you could get game four, they did it. Now build the momentum here for the wild. Like what do they have to do from what you saw in games one and two? Like what is their game plan and the way that they're able to beat Dallas in Dallas for game five? Well, their power play in game one was spectacular. Dallas tightened it up a little bit like they wanted to be so aggressive. You could tell on the penalty kill, but they kind of got a little more patient against Minnesota. They were just picking Dallas apart with their one touches, especially fun. And this is, by the way, this is the most overused term in hockey. They found the bumper. So while I hate the bumper, just so you know, walk the bumper. I hate the bumper, but they use the bumper as in, as in what the guy in the middle. I just hate, I hate bumper. I just hate it. I just think it's the most overused term in hockey. I don't know if you disagree, agree. I say middleman. I don't like bumper. That's my rant. I don't like the bumper. Okay. So I thought they used bump, the bumper, the, the middle man so well. The middle man so well in the power plate. And I think this has seven written all over it. I'm sure you guys all thought seven or the series started. We deserve seven hockey fans deserve seven. Colorado probably hopes it goes seven. They're licking their chops with eight days off till they have to play next. But that series for me, I hate that it's the first round, right? Doesn't it feel like a conference final almost of, you know, back to Colorado. But that's a shame that's done that to those team. One of those teams will be out in the first round. But for me, Minnesota, they have played with better pace than Dallas. I don't think that necessarily means that they're going to win the series. But they look like a faster team to me. But I mean, what to the two of those games gone over time? Three, what I don't know what it is. But Minnesota seems like the, the quicker team, the fresher team. But that doesn't mean anything at the end of the day, right? But what a, what a great series. That's been to watch. And I just think the officials got a lot in play. I want to see this five on five, put the whistles away. Let these guys play. Yeah, I thought I was a pretty crazy stat in the game. Three where I ended up going to double over time. Minnesota didn't generate one scoring chance from inside like the tighter house, which is where 50% of the league's goals are scored from. So I found it odd that Minnesota not being able to do a good job of getting inside. Obviously, a lot better at that in game four, who's impressed you the most for Dallas? I mean, Autinger put on an absolute clinic and net and probably deserve to get the win in game four with how many 10 bell saves he hadn't over time. But who are the other guys for Dallas that you've been impressed with? I really like that. That's the lendel. I think he's really underrated. I think people know in the NHL, the average, not the average NHL fan, but a lot of people within the league know how good this guy is. He's such a beast defensively. He's tough to play against. And I remember when we're playing against him in Colorado, McKinney would just say he's a complete nightmare miserable to play against. So a guy like that, I kind of try and give him some love. I don't think he gets a ton of love nationally. I think he's a total horse for Dallas and that wide Johnston. I love him. He's everyone knows about him, led the league and power play goals this year, but he's not the fastest guy, but for he's not that old, but he's so smart, right? He just knows how to get open, finds the right areas. He's got a heck of a shot. Everyone knows about Ranton and how good he is in the playoffs, but Johnston and Lindell are guys for me that are told. And I think Hayeskin and his plan, he looks a little nicked up to me right now. He's still playing well, but I don't think he's at a full health. But let's face it. No one is this time. You're a guy you didn't mention Jason Robinson, he's got four goals and four games. Like this guy got snubbed out of the USA team and it just looks like he's on a vengeance to be, you know, even playing against Billy G where it's like, Hey, listen, I'm a guy that can perform in these big type of games and he's been outstanding. Yeah, him too. He's another guy that like he's not super strong. He's not a great skater, but like he just knows how to get it done. Great shot. Thanks to the game. Super well. It seems like he's kind of a step ahead out there, but yeah, I think Dallas, I mean, what was the draft that they had where did they get? Robert. Hayeskin and Robertson on one draft, like, yeah, Jesus. Change is a franchise. I mean, incredible. Those three guys and yeah, I'm happy for Rottinger too. He, you know, he could have maybe gotten yanked in game one and what a response. He's played so well. After all the shit he went through last year, right towards the end of the playoff. So I'm happy for him too. He's played really well. What was it? I was just going to ask, what was it like being there alive for the black wheelhead on Trenon? Oh, I mean, you could feel that one, right? I mean, black was not a big guy, like not big at all, a little bit of a sewer pass from Bagotian. He admitted it after to the media, but Trenon's a huge guy. He had 13 hits in game one and then he gets steamrolled in game two and I think he's going to play in game five, at least he skated yesterday or today, but I mean, that was as bone crushing as you could, you could just feel it at ice level, right? I mean, you could hear it or see it on TV, but man, he trucked him. So I think back to that game, you had one of the greatest breakdowns of the puck over the glass. People didn't see it and you pointed out the mark on the guy's stick as he had white tape that it ramped up. So I just wanted to give you your props on that. That was an amazing eye by you. I can't believe I saw it either, Jans, because I legit can't see like I have the worst eyes ever. And I'm like this. What's my monitor and dismiss like, what the hell are you doing, man? Because the backup is right next to you at ice level when you're between the benches and they can hear every time everything you say. So like sometimes I'll want some affirmation. I'll look to dismiss and he'll be like, nice man, nice call, and then he'll be like, not right. You know, like just giving me shit, but yeah, it's fun, man, that was a fun one to pick up live. I really thought you were going to finish off. You know, my vision isn't great with that's why I missed the Eagle put on 15 at Augusta National Golf Club, but that, you know, good for you to not to not blame your eyes on that. I watched game. I watched game four with Brian Yandell, his three boys, and I sat there and I said, I can't believe that the Nashville Predators bought out Matthew Dushan because you look at him and you look at what's happening with Nashville and the signings of the older guys and what's going on there? It's like, what the hell were they doing getting rid of him? He looks fucking awesome still. I mean, he has, he has, I think he's got four assists already in the series. He's a, I'll give him dog status. He competes like a bastard, and that's just part of like the Dallas. I mean, I will say I don't know if Minnesota can win this series without Zucorello. Any word from anyone on this? Have you guys heard anything playing tomorrow? I think he was cracked. Okay. First power. That's huge for me. That's big. He's actually on the first power play probably game time decision, but last I saw you playing. Yeah. That's huge for Minnesota. Why? The priest. If he's practicing on the power play. Yeah. If he's practicing on the power play, that usually means you're in, right? Yeah. Yeah. And EJ we had Billy G on biz. Was it the season preview last year or this season? I think it was two year, like, yeah, when we're talking about boldie. Yeah. And he's like, I think this guy is a 40 40 40 guy. I thought he might have said 50 50 either way was it was like, okay. And now you're seeing it. I didn't know. And he never mentioned with us. I saw an article that said he did grab him maybe two years ago and said, you just need a little bit more like a few to your game. And I think he has it like on the four check his sticks incredible, but he's also like laying it on the like his body. He's taking hits. He's giving hits. And he's, I think Billy G probably meant like you're so big. As you mentioned when you interviewed him, like you can take over games physically because forget your skills and how many times is this guy going to flick the puck over somebody's stick or body to himself? He's, he's mastered that move. So showed up Billy G as a GM and then Boldy just he has reached a new level and that's incredible for wild fans. To me, it seems like all those us Olympic guys came back and have played with a level, a new level that they they weren't telling us. They have such confidence. You can just tell they have a swag from that. And I can see it with all those guys like Faber and Hughes seem like they're on a different level. Like I have a new appreciation for Quinn Hughes. I mean, I played against him for a long time, but this kid is unbelievable. Like I'm, I'm beating a dead horse there, but I think like I have a way, way more appreciation for how good he is. And I think playing out a better team, you're seeing that now too. But all those guys, Boldy, Hughes, Faber, they just seem like they have some type of swagger confidence that they got from the Olympics because I remember coming back with after 2010, and I didn't want to really play the rest of the season. I was miserable after we lost in, in over time in 2010. So what those guys got from that goal, it just seems like they're playing with a, a new type of, you know, swag to their game that they didn't have before that. And going, I mean, we talked about Marcus Felino on that, that huge time goal that sent it to overtime. They just like made it unreal, like given goal play, it was just sick, who I would bring them together. Well, I just meant more so that the individual effort, like beating the one guy at the top there by the blue line, and then two guys got sucked into Quinn Hughes. And then he kind of just takes that step, goes to his back end, and then gets stern with speed who ends up taking the shot where Felino cleans up the rebound. I thought it was pretty sick, too. He used the side of the net in order to keep it alive. He banked it off of it, and the bounce off of that ended up getting in behind Otinger. And for him to find it over the top, like that was actually, for the guy who called the Minnesota while the fraud squad, Merls's X factor in the series was Marcus Felino. Now I would be interested to get Merls on. I don't think we are. But if he had the opportunity to maybe switch his pick at this point, whether he would do it to save face, to not get absolutely obliterated by a wild fans if they can pull this. I love Marcus Felino. He's so hard to play against. Like, that's a guy I take on my team anytime. When we would play against him in Minnesota, you just, one of those guys, you always know when he's out there because he can truck you great leadership. Like, and I love what he did to a couple of years ago to Oscar Sunquist when Wilson laid out Sunquist with the bad hit and Felino told Sunquist, I'm going to, I'm going to get Wilson for you. Like, who does that? He's just one of those ultimate team guys and now that he has his brother Nick with them, those are, that's just a terrifying fourth line, McCarran and both Felinos. Like, are you kidding me? It seems as though I would tell me if you guys disagree. The general consensus was that Montreal Tampa and Dallas, Minnesota were going to be seven game series. And it just, it's just shaping up to be exactly what everyone thought. I can't wait for that next game. Did you to go back to one particular play though, this series could be three one. It was two one at the end of that game when they had that crack on the goal line, when Hartman essentially saved the goal with his glove. Like, that game was, and the hit before that, you see the hit before it killed that, that guy who's last name starts with an H that doesn't sound like a guru. Ritz Kovion. No, Ritz Kovion. It's two guys with H. Yeah, and fucking, I like to buy a foul, but like that play that Hartman ends up dying. He makes that hit. And then on that scrambling play, I think it was Wyatt Johnson on the other side of the net, hit it. It ends up hitting the inside post and then somebody else was there to clean up the rebound and Hartman just grabbed it, fucking slung it out and kept it out of the net. So that was a huge way of the net, too, through the crease. Didn't he miss open net? Was it FOXA? Yeah. I think it was him, too. Yeah. That's a huge play. Electric. Hey, where are you guys picking in the Kentucky Derby this weekend, you got any picks? I saw Portanoi's got a Philly run in the oaks. I don't, I don't know the horses yet. I'm kind of like Saturday, two o'clock, like check the emails for a pick. Yeah. Who do you have? Uh, well, he drew the rail, which is like the kiss of death and the Derby the one, but I like Mike Rapoli's renegade. He's the morning line favorite, but the rail is like the kiss of death. So, so we'll see. And then in the oaks Friday, I like Percy's bar. Okay. Yeah. So we'll see, but that's the, that's the best day of the year. I think just. Yeah. Kentucky Derby. Have you guys been it? So it's a total blast. I got to walk the horse out one year. I got to walk out Vino Roso's unbelievable. One of the most interesting. With any Vino. Yeah. That is so random. I think it is, uh, the horse that he's talking about, Rapolo's horse, that he's the noble guy. So you got to, you got to put some on the, yep, yep. Oh, shit. Okay. I'm all in there. Yep. Yeah. I was hanging out with Mincey recently, though. So that might be a mush on him. Oak stays way better horned. Don't you think? It's bull. They're both fun. Yeah. I thought you can't go wrong. The party's Friday night. Right. So you go Friday. Leave Sunday after the race. It's, it's great. You go once. You don't need to go again. Um, I think we can move it over to Colorado because that was probably your, your favorite team to play for, uh, one of Cup there. And would you say that that's where like your, that's where your heart's at? Yeah. It's funny. Like, uh, I'll look at my Twitter mentions sometimes and people are like, you should never do a Colorado game. You're the biggest part. And then I get mentions from abs fans. You're way for the other team. You got. For Colorado. You can't keep doing it. Right down the middle. Yeah. You can't keep these people happy, man. This is lighting candles for the Leafs on, on national TV lighting candles. You at least played for the team, want a Stanley Cup for the team. You can do whatever the fuck you want. But I got a long thong on my fucking, and I don't care who wins. I hope it's a good game. Literally. It's like you want to talk about a good play for the one team, for the other team. I don't give a shit who wins. You just want to see good hockey. Um, but for the abs, I think. No surprise. They swept L.A. But I thought L.A. Played them hard. Like they, they could have maybe one or two. That could have gone either way. Obviously the abs all played them, but you got to give L.A. They're marks. I thought they hung in there. They're, they're really well and, um, I mean, if the abs don't go to the Western finals at least, like, are you looking at a coaching change there personally? I don't think so. But I think people are asking that question. I think Bednar is one of the best coaches in the league, but, you know, they've won one playoff series since 2022, right? Now two since they beat L.A. So, um, we'll see. I mean, they, they had the team to do it. I mean, that, that team's a freak show, right? I mean, that, and Wedge would've been unbelievable. Like, if you had one question about the abs, it was their goal tending for me. Wedge would never started a playoff game, but, you know, if they have to turn to Blackwood, he can give them good minutes too. So I think you're going to end up using both of those guys, but I mean, I think it's going to, you guys did when you want it. And so we had friends. So he was six. Yeah. Edmonton against the Edmonton. Yeah. He was six in home. Horned. So I, uh, I tweeted, uh, uh, it was about a month before the playoffs. I said, if you're not questioning Colorado's golden and go under the playoffs, you're crazy. Gotta get ahead of this one. I was on ambient. That one doesn't count. So I, I was, I was on ambient in the next morning. I was like, Oh, man. I was kind of right. And so people are sending me that tweet. Let's get this out in the open. That was an ambient tweet. Yeah. Okay. Okay. The shift Leckon and had on Panarin in game four, what a absolute dog, like he cannot, and we overusing the term dog, maybe a little bit. He is one. He's all over the guy. He ends up clearing that pocket. It was just the perfect. So I just wanted to shout that out. Third thing. It's the question for you, Jay. I know when you won the cup, you swept Edmonton in the conference finals. You had a little bit of a weight, you had a little bit of a weight. Now they're going to be getting their eight days off. It's great. Guys get more healthy. In terms of Colorado, I'm sorry, mini douse going to seven. Do you think it ends up causing anything for terms of rust or what are your thoughts on that? No, not for me. We swept Nashville in the first round too. And I think we have five or six days off. So like we have that. And those guys, I know those guys, they're not going to be, they're not going to be rusty. The rest is so key for those guys. And I think Manson got nicked up a little bit. So like, that's going to be big for him and it gives a chance for wedge wood, blackwood to practice and get some practice time because the abs, they don't practice all year. I bet you they practice the least amount of any team in a chill. They're so big on rest and recovery. So I think I think the rest is going to be really good for him and it gives them a chance to get healthy. I don't, I think Dallas and Mini are going to beat the shit out of each other and, you know, it's going to be a tough series for Colorado. But I expect them to go to the Western finals for whoever they play in the second round. I think those teams are going to be so beat up if they aren't home or, yeah, if they aren't practicing hard, I would imagine they're still getting on the ice and still working on the power play. They have to. They're 9.1% bit. They should really be straight of doing correctly. Love the face off play they had the other night on the power play with natious locking up lot in there and then McKinnon slide in back door. They're, they're big on set plays. I would assume off of ozone draw wins, maybe even all over the ice. What would you see as the issue with the power play from the regular season? And like, how does a power play with that many weapons struggle the way that it has? It's a good question. And I think for years, everyone's called for the head of the power play coach. And the power play coach only has so much like it's not just the power play coach. You don't think Bednar has any input. You don't think Joe Sackek has any input. You don't think any of these got dogwood on the power play. Like it's not just the power play coach. You shouldn't have five players like that though and have a nine percent. It's unbelievable. And it's been bad all year. It was good from the Olympic break to the end of the season. And now it's kind of rear its ugly head again. But imagine they get that thing going like, oh, why, Jay, what have you seen? What is it? What is it? I think McCarr needs to shoot more from the top. Yes, I agree. I think they, everyone knows they want to go to McKinnon or maybe find whoever in the middle or cadre on the side. I think McCarr just has to shoot more. And I think, you know, Nate might be in his ear a little bit about not shooting a ton because Nate has a good shot off the flank. But Cale's got to shoot more because once. you shoot from the top, as you guys know, everything opens up. Everything opens up because everyone starts to respect the shot and they know it's coming. And I just think a little bit more simplicity. It's not always the perfect play this time of year and they know that. But I think kale needs to shoot more from the top, whether it's one time or it's riskers, any of it. Yeah. And then that opens up the bumper guy. But they also, but their PK was 80% to against LA. And we talk to Matthew Cuchuck and I had mentioned the, you know, with Colorado having a tough power play going right now. But he said in playoffs and to win a Stanley Cup, you need your PK to do well at 80% right now against the team like LA, probably not where you want it to be. So like the special teams are the big question right now. Yeah. I think what were the number one in the NHL all season long? The PK was maybe second, but I wouldn't worry about that one either. Um, yeah, I think their penalty kill like they have, they have so many guys that they can rotate in and out of there. And I think like having, having burns this year has been huge because kale doesn't have to play all the penalty kill, right? Like, yeah, you're gonna have to play 27, 28. He can play like 24 or 25 and have Manson Burns, even Melinsky kills penalties. So I think having like that depth to give your top players or rest has been so big for those guys. I don't, I don't worry about their PK one bit at all. All right, um, I guess we got it before we get to Utah, Vegas, Biz, at least bring up on Jay Copapita. We've talked a lot about him and, uh, yeah, I think it was, was it Bootsie somebody saying that if you redid the draft, that was Crosby's draft, he goes second overall and the career and I just want to shout him out. I mean, he's given the waves after it sucks to go out with a sweep. Did the press conference with his kids, which I think is the big reason why he's ready to be done and be around his family more, but what an unbelievable player and person and just the fact that they ended up getting in this year kind of for him and they were able to at least get him four more playoff games, it sucks with the sweep, but we want to shout him out as that series ends. But yeah, we've talked about him quite a bit here, the, the, the, you know, the second half of the season, just kind of pumping his tires to what he brought to his team, the franchise, the league and how he's handled himself, EJ, you probably played a lot against him. I took for a guy to be as good and competitive as he was and to also be like a lady bingwinger winner. Excuse me. It's a kind of like an anomaly. How well and how hard he played to have done it with such class and grace. Yeah. And I think about Copi is, he could keep playing like he's that good, right? It's just done to spend more time with his family. It's unreal. What some of these guys are doing at this stage of their career. What is Copi 39, maybe almost 40, but whatever it is, I mean, he could keep going and be effective. And it's, I, I just, I think it's, I've so much respect for these guys who can keep playing this well late into their career. And you mentioned Dushan earlier with like, he's a guy that has gotten better as he's gotten older, almost too. And you don't see that too often nowadays. So I think he, they always just handled himself with class, Copa Tardid, right? Like he was just a great ambassador for the game. He played in LA, so like the East Coast people maybe didn't see him that much, but he was right up there with a Bergeron type as far as how he played. Like he was kind of the West Coast Bergeron, in my opinion, 300 more career points than Bergeron. Yeah. 92 point here. Just crazy. Crazy. I know. Biz, you got, you got the look on. You called the mammoth. I think you've done every one of their games in this series, maybe three of the, three of them. No, I know. I think we're on ESPN, but just, no, just watched them and was dialed into them. I thought, I thought game one, obviously the cooling line for Utah was their best line. I thought that, you know, Kels and Schmalsy definitely needed to get their feet wet and dive into the series. They were way better in game three. That was an unbelievable goal-tuning performance, especially in the first half of the game by Veggie. And he's been great the whole series. And I think they were peppered in about 15 to five in shots and it was too nothing for the Utah mammoth. The first goal from Wieger, probably one that, probably one he wants back, Carter Hart, right? It ends up hitting them kind of right in that mask and they hit some in the stick and it's almost like an own goal. I thought it was a bad bounce on that one kind of like, yeah, bad bounce, but still one that, I mean, it hits you right in the middle of the chest or like the helmet you should have it. Tough, tough bounce for sure. And it's, I mean, Wieger gets all alone because of that weak side winger hat would drop down in the slot area. So it kind of left him open. So I actually thought it was, I think it was Liam O'Brien where he was in the slot and then boom, all of a sudden it just pops out and Wieger gets to step into one. The second goal, I'm trying to remember all Gunther again, Gunther score 50. He's a Dylan Gunther is just as lethal from that spot as Alexander Oventure. If you leave him all alone at the top, this, this, this, this, what do you mean? We're talking about the greatest goal score of all time. That's fine. That's fine. You can't say it. I'll agree with you. I, it's like Stamco, so Vechkin, you think he could get there? You're saying right now I'm saying he's just as lethal. If you give him a one time or there as Alexander Oventure, he's, I think he's automatic from that spot right there in game eight and game two, he gets the backhand cross ice from Yamamoto. He literally flicks his wrist and it's fucking top pitty down. It's the best guy. He's in hockey right now. It's insane. Thank you, thank you. Best release. Take it over. Take it over. Um, goalie's hated this guy because he would get on the flank like Sam Irson when I played with him in Philly. He's Gunther torched him for maybe two one night and Irson's like, man, my angle was perfect. Like I don't know how he gets this shot off so quick. Like this guy is a total stud. Utah reminds me of the abs like six years ago. How fat they play like they're going to be a problem for a long time and they always give Colorado a really tough game. So I'm going to be interested to see if Utah can get to the western finals and end up playing Colorado. Like that's, that's going to be the fastest series ever. Well, the craziest part about this is the Anaheim wins and Utah wins. One of those teams is going to the conference finals. Crazy. Crazy. And think about how fast that happened. We knew they were coming, but we didn't know they were coming. This quick and going back to that game three, I'm, I'm interested to see how this story develops with with Aiden Hill and Carter Heart. If Carter Heart has another tough start to this game, are they going to go to Aiden Hill? I feel like they've wrote an Aiden Hill off. I agree. The fact that they didn't go go to him in that game at any point. This guy want to fucking Stanley Cup for the Vegas gold night. He was unreal in that cup run and he stood on his head in some moments. I mean, we were there live in attendance when they played against Florida. And he was fucking incredible. So I don't know what is going on there, but going back to that, that game three, I don't think tourney gets enough credit as a coach. He is probably the least paid of any head coach in the NHL. I think his job was in question at certain points. It was. It was. And they, they, I don't think Clayton Keller has taken a face off. He was 38% during the regular season. I don't even know if he's taken one face off so far in this series. So they have, they're up to nothing and they have a D zone draw and they throw their fourth line center out, Stemlin with the top line of Kraus and Schmaltz. Remember when we used to have Boyd Gordon on our team, the repairman, you know, the fence of zone draw. Gordo get out there, win the draw and get off and then we're going to get the fuck off the ice. And then you're throwing that centerman who's supposed to be there. Well, what does Stemlin do? He snaps it back. They go up strong side, a beautiful job through the neutral zone. Krauser kicks it out to Schmaltz. And then boom, it's right in the back of the net off a tip going to the net. And as that pucks going in the net, Keller stepping on the ice and the repairman's going off. So that to me, great coaching, great execution. That puts the game out of reach at three nothing and sure enough, Kels and Schmaltz see that line ends up connecting again for Krauser second of the night and to make it four nothing. And after that, it was pretty much game over, boys. So credit to the first ever playoff win at home in the Delta Center to Utah, mammoth. And they have a big opportunity because like you said, EJ, this is a fast team. And when you have those first top two lines going, man, and Veggie's kicking, they are going to be very, very difficult to beat, even if you're the Vegas Golden Knights. I totally agree with you about Andre Turingney. I had him as a, he was a deep coaching Colorado for three years with Patrick Waw. And we always said this guy will be a head coach one day. If he can figure out the English, English language, his English was very poor at the time. It got better over time, but we had a tough time understanding them and we just said when he gets more comfortable with the language, he's going to be an unbelievable head coach. You can hear this guy on the ice when you're playing literally yelling commands on the penalty kill, like pressure, pressure, hold, hold, it was, it was unbelievable. I never had a coach that you can hear that clear in an NHL game, but he, he, he did a lot for my career too personally, just pushing me in different areas to get better. And he, he's a really good coach, like a really, really good coach. So I'm happy to see him have some success there. And I think torts is going to stick with heart. That's kind of his guy from Philly. He had heart and Philly. So I, I don't think they're going to go to Hill. No way. I was just going to ask you, Biz, like, did you want Hill to start game three? He was good in game two. No, he said if he struggles early, I thought he's going to be good. you said who was who was good game two heart. Yeah, how was he in game three? Yeah, so you're saying you want Hill to start game four. I don't know, man, but you're acting like he's a career backup. He want to fucking stand the cup as a starter. What the fuck is heart done? Uh, yeah, I think Hill was overall pretty brutal this year and heart's been pretty good. Heart, heart, heart didn't play half the fucking year. Yeah, I'm talking since torts came. He was awesome. How was he last game? Okay, he had one bad game. So you're pulling the goal. I was saying it's crazy that he got lit up for fucking four and he's still between the pipes when you have a fucking Stanley Cup winning starter. Okay, so okay, so you're saying they should have pulled them in that game. I'm saying that I think there's something going on there and the fact that they didn't. Okay, now I'll say this about Vegas. I'm not panicked if I'm them. No, I mean, dude, like they're they're neither. Now they the way they like dominated at least a shot clock in that game. It's more, it's more a question of like, I see hurdle right now and I see Dora Fee of Dora Fee of in the playoffs. Dude, this guy's like a 35 goal score in the regular season. It seems he shives away from any physical contact in the playoffs. Hurtles hasn't scored and I think 24 games. They broke up stone, uh, Eichel and what was it? Yeah, because now Eichel's was stone in barbershave. Marners with Howden and Dora Fee of hurdles with Riley Smith and then Blutman, our guy, our Vegas guy doesn't understand why colas are stays on that third line. So there are questions, but in terms of the way game three, when I don't think there's panic for Vegas, put it this way, the oilers are in a way worse spot than Vegas is in my mind. Utah's faster, but I still think Vegas is a great chance of winning game four and tying this up. That's kind of my thought in terms of not panicking. I'll say this if tor if there's a goalie in that that torts didn't like, if he would have had the start to the game that that Carter Harhat in game three, he would have been getting the hook in no time. Agreed. So I'm saying, yeah, it's his guy from Philly and that's fine, but I feel like there's something going on where there's like literally no trust in Aiden Hill. And I don't think that that's fair in a sense of he's will accomplish way more in his career than Carter hardhouse. Do you do horn? Do you think Vegas kind of overlooked Utah here in this series because it kind of looks like the last two game? I don't know about that. And on the hill thing, I think he had the worst five on five save percentage of any goalie in the NHL this year. Like, I don't think there's any trust there, right? Like, yeah, it's great. He won a cup and like, that's great then. But what have you done for me now? You know, like, I don't think they can go to him. I like, they had, they were like top five in the NHL and every metric accepts five on five save percentage. Yeah, some of that's on your team in front of you. I don't think they can go to Hill. I just think they got to ride it out with hard. I don't think I'm totally old self, right? I'm totally okay with them going back to heart and game four. Yeah. But I'm saying if it's a similar start to game three and two goals go in and all of a sudden, it's like, don't we're not seeing help put a stuff on. I'm saying, okay, like this guy literally hates his guts. Yeah. Yeah. I'll agree. I'll agree with that. And it's funny. So Mariner gets out of gets out of Toronto. And obviously the, the, the, the, the attention and the pressure is totally different. He doesn't have a goal yet. I thought that he would light it up this playoffs. I think I said in this series preview, I think he's going to explode and just being out there and how different it feels. And he doesn't have a goal. So it's like, they signed him to this huge ticket. They need the guy to score stone performs every playoff, right? Ken Mariner performed. This is a huge game for Vegas. And obviously this series, I think they've had, is this their second two day off? They've had, they've had two days off between. I'm all about the two days off, EJ because Edminton hasn't had it once. Yeah. But I don't know. I, I, I don't know what you think happens in game four. If you anyone want to want to give a take or a preview, I think that Vegas is fine. I think they'll, they'll figure it out and regroup. I think this is going to be a long series. But and I, and I don't think that they overlook Utah. I just think that when Utah, when they got everybody going, including goal tenning, they're a very, very, very good team. Oh, yeah. And, and Logan Cooley has surpassed my expectations on how much of a, I know we keep throwing the word bumper and dog around, but he's been a dog bumper. He's been a dog. Yeah. He's dog bumping. He's dog bumping. Yeah. All right. EJ, buddy. We appreciate it so much. You're, you're crushing it. So we'll see you next when? It's maybe game seven for Dallas mini, not for sure. That's KBD. And then if not, second round. Okay. All right. Well, congrats on everything. Congrats on playing Augusta. That's the coolest thing. Forget the in between the benches and the Stanley Cup playoffs. You're a legend, buddy. And, thanks, guys, appreciate your time. All right, guys. You're the best. EJ. Thanks, guys. Take care. Man, missile. Yeah. Man, missile. Okay. So we still have our aid. Come on. Correct. I think he's just going to be venting about the bees. We're just, this is a therapy session. Yeah. And he can, he can glow about the ducks. Very true. Very true. I, I have been crushing water. So bring an R.A. Well, I pee. R.A. needs a few minutes here. R.A. needs a few minutes. I'll just, I'll keep everybody entertained. Go ahead. Whip. I won't leave you hanging, buddy. Okay. I won't leave you hanging. How the hell is already not ready? What am I missing here? I, I think you're still getting back from. No, that's on me. I didn't send him the link X. I didn't want to come in and distract the EJ interview. No problem. No worries. We can, we can, hey, listen, this is going to be should be able to just piss. You know what we should do? I'm on till, I'm on till this is his down as I've ever been. I'm bad. I'm down bad. It's, it's, it's one thing to, to be, and now I said on part of my take, like, it's man in the arena type shit. I'm going to give takes forever. As long as I'm doing this, I'm going to give takes and you're always going to miss. And if you're back three, 300, you're, you're, you're a Hall of Famer. But I'll tell you right now, I'm, I feel, I feel small, I feel little, I feel like a failure and it's tough getting beat up nonstop on the old worldwide web. Buddy, listen, everybody goes through it. I was getting roasted after the Leafs got beat 6161 games five and seven last year. I felt like a complete loser. I still am a complete loser. But before we bring an R.A. I think that we should just even the people at home listening, you're in your car. Let's just take a few deep breaths. I need a very, I've been a very stressed reply off. So we're going to do a little box breeding. They were going to go four on the way in, hold for four, four on the way out, hold for four. All right, let's do this together. All right, four on the way in. All right, come on in. Let's bring them in. That was enough for me. Thanks. Hello, everybody. Welcome to our raise world here with the spit and chicklets podcast, what's going on gentlemen and other awesome weekends of NHL playoffs. Before you get to the Pucks biz. I know you mentioned the yeah, Quack, Quack. I got my bucket right here. You were talking about that label thing earlier. Biz, did you hear who actually who took those photos? I know you mentioned the possible private investigator or popper out. So it was I have no idea. It was another couple staying at the resort. Like they recognize them. And so they they didn't know them. They weren't working for anybody. They just took pictures, sold them to the post for under for four figures. So even if they got $9,900, I have to tax is basically these people, you know, a fuck cheaters, but like these people like nuke those other people's lives for like $3,000, which is like basically with that place cost per night. So they basically probably got a free weekend just by fucking Nuke and Rable and fuck a receipt. So assuming that they knew who Rable was and the fact that maybe he wasn't with his wife or just being like sending it to people, being like, oh, look, I saw Rable at in Sedona. And then next thing, you know, they're like, oh, like who's the girl he's with? It's like, oh, that's not his wife. They probably knew as her. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sure they recognize Rable. I think that couple is about to get sued to RA because that that hotel has a pretty strict no photography policy. It's like one of those hotels. I hope they get. Yeah, you can't take pictures. Yeah. No, that's bullshit. Sedona is one of those types of places where it's very private. Like you're going there to like get off grid and fly under the radar. That yeah, all of it sucks R.A. Not like her since we're into it, her tweets and all of it was just one of the most bizarre things I've ever seen in my life. Yeah. The fact that like if I was having a fair with a woman and I ended up having a kid with my current wife, the last name on the planet I would name my daughter is the woman that I'm having the affair with name. That is just like Luna. It's my daughter shitty Cindy right here. This is my that's coming from a guy with a fong shwong on. That's coming from a guy with it. Yeah, it was with a fucking cockless face. We'll go to a worse topic and that we the Boston ruins effort yesterday. I mean, particularly the first period. I mean, I've watched every playoff game in that building, whether in person or on television. I can't think of a worse game. I mean, obviously there were traumatic games, game seven, 2019, game six, and 2013, of course. But just that first period, it was just just a waffle effort. I mean, sloppy. I never saw them just so outperformed like that. I mean, they were not ready for prime time and credit to Buffalo. They couldn't get in the zone. They could really get out of their own zone. Buffalo took full advantage, but but but it was ugly man. And the bronze fans that they They want to revolt now. They act like we were like, you know, two to one Stanley Cup favorites. Like, it was It was ugly and, you know, the game collectively was ugly, but they, they were a little bit better than the second period. I know they had a couple of clankies, but it was just a horrific loss. And, you know, I think it, you know, it's a learning experience. I know people like, oh, blow it up trade. This one trade that way. It's like, if you, what a fucking trade swimming after that game. You shouldn't want to talk to you. You're absolutely moron. Uh, I had said the business, I did a space after the first, the business said you should do one. And I was like, you know, swimming gives up a fifth poem. And I don't know why they waited for a six, but, uh, just ugly all around what, what's going on, buddy? What do you have on this one for us? Oh, yeah. It was just pathetic. Truly pathetic. Ryder had a baseball game, so I'm coaching that. It started at one. It went to, I had to leave actually at like two 25 to catch my flight to here in Chicago. So I quickly, oh my god, I had probably 10 minutes in. It was three nothing. I, I, I was, I, I gasped. I said, there's just no chance. It's three nothing already. And then I see the goals. And we mentioned already. And we're talking 15 foot set breakout passes that they couldn't just completely not ready to play. My question to you is your opinion on swim and given it to the bench. Did you not mind it? Loved it. Absolutely loved it. Um, he did get high on to dry. It was a wolf. I left it. And I know, you know, Golly's aunt can't be captains or they don't captains and, but like that was like, I thought that was captain like behavior to it. And I know you guys said, you'll keep it in the locker room. But I know. I mean, we see date. I'm doing on the bench to his, his teammates once in a while, just because he's a Golly doesn't mean he can't snap at him. And obviously the coach was fine when it's dream thought it was okay, that he did it. And even Chuckie Mac scored off the game, man, man to man in here. If we're not fucking embarrassed by what just happened, then I don't know what to say. And, you know, I think that quote combined with what we shot from swimming kind of go in and in. A little love. All right. All right. I think you're on the same page as me here, though, too. We're like, you know what? If the Bruins lose in the next game, they lose in five, yeah, it sucks. But I'm really not that mad because we were talking last night. This is all gravy. This season here, no one expected the Boston Bruins to be in this place. They were plus 10,000, I believe, to win the division at the beginning of the season. No one saw this coming that they'd be in the playoffs. So the fact that they're even here and in this rebuild that we were talking about 365 days ago is a lot is sped up a lot faster than we originally expected. Yeah. It's on the on the fly fix all house money right now. And honestly, like, that's an awful game to play. Like, I think those are like learning experiences that help, you know, young guys laid it down the line. And, you know, and people like, oh, they should have traded the deadline. They only had two fucking pending UFA's on the team, obviously, and I believe might be peak. So it's not like, you know, they had a bunch of guys like that. We're going to be leaving at the end of the year like last year. It's like, okay, well, what would you have real, realistically got from what a fucking six round maybe at the four. It wasn't even worth doing anything. I think like I said, they just, they had what they had lay. Let's see what happens. What a boys and, you know, we've been saying that from the jump. I mean, but it was still logging. You don't let the type of a stop you want to see, but all right, you got, you got a little good news coming your way in that, um, and oh, God, what I love to see Buffalo, bury you guys in Buffalo game five to move on. But murals and I are there. And that's a sign that could be a tough sign for say, not a chance. You guys are closing that fucker out while you believe in me. I believe in you, but absolutely, I appreciate that. Not even you can mush the blade gang. I'm with girls, I'm with most double mush, double mush, double negative equals, a positive positive. Yeah. We're math guys. What are they? What? Like without saying Swaman needs to steal it. How do they beat them? Game five. All right. That's, that's the problem. There isn't really anything there. Swarm down, boys. It's coaching right now. Like G like we talked about last night. You know, you know, what is as good as a year, Sturm had Lindy Ruff has 24 more years experiences. They had coach them. They had 2050 or Sturm's first and just watching the Bruins, like I said, try to get out of their own zone was ugly, but it was like, I can basically, the Sabers had like, you know, the Great Wall of China with the blue line. The Bruins just couldn't barely get any penetration a little bit in the second period. So they got to do some adjustments. You know, I've never been an X's in those guys, as you know, but, you know, that they have to change. I don't know. Maybe mix the purse now. The lines up a bit more, but more so figuring out just how to, you know, break through with Buffalo stifling them. And of course, once they get the lead, you know, they didn't even have to sit on it. They just basically, like I said, I look like they'll put four eyes at the blue line sometimes and the Bruins could break through. So they need to do some strategic and to, you know, get a much better than the four track. They've been outshot all four games 30 to 20, 35, 27, 30 to 25, 35, 24. They haven't even got 30 shots on goal in one of these games yet. So they got. I think the, I think the coach's scapegoating is like a little bit much. I agree with you, Biz. I think I've never, I've never, I'm sorry to interrupt you, I've never been like, Oh, oh, coach, completely. Brody is either one snapping fucking 20 foot passes off the tape, like on, on, on easy zone entries. All right. Not to tell you what he's got. What is rough done to out coach him? That's what I never get. Well, I, well, I, again, like what you basically Buffalo stifling the Bruins, they kick in the zone. So to me, that's like, okay, the whatever system again, I'm not, I'm fucking not familiar. That's a street hockey guy, but whatever they're doing, it's, it's a coaching strategy. So like, Sturm isn't able to figure that out apparently, at least from very rudimentary way to put it. But, you know, the Bruins can't get entry into the zone. So it's to me, it's like, all right, whatever Buffalo is doing, the Bruins need to change with their doing. So the fact that, again, the game, they're being outshot, they're not getting great possession in their, in the offensive zone. So yeah, I, to me, I think that ultimately goes down to coaching at the end of the day. Yeah. Efforts a huge pot. But yeah, to me, that's an X's and O's thinking, you know, Lindsay's X is a dome better than Sturm's O's right now. So where I disagree is only that I look at Buffalo is more skilled, they're faster, and they have better defensemen, overall, that it's like, this is a straight up personnel mismatch. So I, but I'm not saying, buddy, you, you, you are not alone in saying like, oh, coach, it gets mentioned a lot in all different playoffs series. I think I've always just kind of been like, oh, that team's better than that team. Obviously, there's times when you have masterclass coaching examples, but for Buffalo Boston, I just am not looking at this like, oh, man, Sturm is overmatched. I'm, I'm like, the team is overmatched. Yeah. That's true. True that as well. I think you got to get Linholm off Pasta's line too. He's clearly hurt. He's slowing him down. They moved him off the power play. Like Pasta was playing with Minton and Kuzda Dinoff at the end of the season. I get there under 23 years old. I get you don't want to throw them into the fire, but he needs to play with someone a little bit faster. Because Linholm's, okay. That's a coach thing. Minton had the pizza to start things off on the reverse start game three. He did. He did him for excuse me. I agree. It's a mistake. But I think overall in the series, Minton's been pretty good and he's been much better than Linholm to say the least. Yeah. One last Buffalo note, uh, some lady tweeted the other day she was sitting down where her husband went and get ready for the game in the door open and some guy walks in and they're like, oh, can we help you? And he's like, is this Steve's party? They're like, uh, no, Steve's three doors down. He's like, okay. And he probably reaches cool. It gives them shots. And they all did a shot together. Like total fucking strangers. Drink Whitney. Uh, I don't know if they would don't pick he's up. But that's just like a quintessential Buffalo story. But we got to give props to our boy, Cooper now has 90 wins with Tampa Bay in the playoffs. Passes Glen and say the for the second most career playoff wins by head coach with a single NHL franchise. He also enters the top 10 in NHL history for playoff wins by a coach shut up to our pal Cooper. And what a series that's been. All right. Sorry. Who's number one for what with one team? It's got to be Simon Coleman, right? With Montreal. Yeah. You know what I did. Arbor. I don't know. If we have that, it might actually be Al Arbor because, because Coleman was with Detroit and Montreal. Right. Yeah. Stretchers of time and Pittsburgh. Yeah. Well, one frame. But what would you only be one franchise? Yeah. Actually, it's a good question. Because Montreal won four in a row. Got to be Arbor. And you know what? It's probably it's got to be. You know what? Because when Montreal would four in a row, there were fewer playoff games. And then when the island is the one that we're in my playup game. So shut out to you. Good stuff. But that's there. Yeah. And you know, I think I think you know who's either second or third, like as winning consecutive playoff series, Pat, the big rig Pat Roon. It's like team team and then the Roon. He's like, I believe number three in most consecutive series. One. Yeah. He's probably at 13, right? 13 or 14. I'm not sure that number off the top, but he's definitely like at the top three of most consecutive series when four, eight, twelve, and then they lost in the, what happened after they lost in the finals, right? Yeah. The car. The 15. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Good, good stuff. There. I'm glad to have many in Dallas. We're getting six games there. This has been an awesome series. No surprise there. Two one goal games, both went to OT. Game two had an empty net goal. So that was a century. A one goal game. Curls get six points of four games. Well, I know you talked about Boulder earlier, but what he's doing man, talk about just raising his game on the big stage like this. It's been great stuff. We got to give him so career going to career like obviously like game one like everybody was good for many like they fucking tested him. Obviously, I think he had two assist last game did get an assist on the winner like, you know, he helped win a puck battle down low low to high. I think we can agree on like the, even though he has six points, not as like vis visibly dominant. Right. Like the regular season like Boulder. It's like, oh, it's visible. He's taking over shifts. He's having solo individual efforts. Just would expect maybe a little bit more of that from Carrille. I think though of Zook is like 90% when he comes back, I think them two, if they get put together, I think that that could help the pre soft get going again. Yeah. I agree. I could really get him going again, which could be dangerous. And we haven't brought up no hints is still like, dude, that is, I think he's done the whole series. Yeah, it has to be at this point, I would think, right? And who knows even the next round, dude, based on what they've talked about now. I mean, they ruled them out of game four, like going into game two. So and I believe hints was injured a little bit last year as well, like miss some games in the run and it kind of going back to copatar and it'll be in jump around a lot. This pot is like the best, what is it? The best ability is availability. Yeah. Copatar was always available. That's what made him special as he was a player. He was never hurt. He was always there to be relied upon. I don't know if he was battling through stuff or he just didn't get un-injured because if you look at his ankles and his body, he is like, he's built like Dolore A, but he moves like fucking putty moves like the whole concouly, like that type of guy. But he is just, he was, he was a force that was always available. Well, also to a shout out now, 35 year old Matt new Shane, he's having a hell of a series as well. Toronto is five assists, seven points in four games, great to see an old guy getting it done like that. We got a shadow of edgy, if I'm out of the other night, I mean, what was it, Vegas 32 shots, he made 30 saves, Utah only had 12 shots, that game four goals on 12 shots. They held on not for day of life, but you know, Vegas got a couple late, but that series, I mean, they could take a three one lead. That's pretty wild. I don't think a lot of people saw that coming. And again, that's another tight series. We've, you know, two one goal games. I'm sorry, a one goal game and empty net game, I don't know, four to the other night. I think that's been entertain as hell. I got to give Freddie in the sentence props. I know you guys briefly mentioned that barely a four and a one point one goal is against a nine five five state percentage, one shout out just five goals against that entire series. But, you know, for a sweep, a very competitive series, you know, I lost two nothing, three two and double OT, two to one and then four to with, you know, but then they had goals. So just five goals. They scored. And I know, you know, this is probably the cap in obvious, but I'd be shocked to shit. If Brady could check us, we're in a sentence uniform, come September, October. Just it's just. Where do you think he ends up, alright? You know what? There's too many, too many places to, I think what do I want to, I would imagine a, you know, a big pack in American team, you know, but he does have two years left. I want to say it about 8.2 million at his capsule. It's not like, like his brother, you know, had one year left and hey, I'm not signing after this year with two years. It's obviously a different scenario, but yeah, it just seems like sort of one of these relationships that might, might be coming to the end and might be mutually beneficial for both sides, but obviously Ottawa, you know, they don't have to do anything. They don't have to trade them. They could sit around and wait for the profit deal, but you know, a powerful to averages, you know, you know, what is it, point eight, all points per game, you know, a tough guy like that. Obviously, I think teams will be lining up to get him, but yeah, for sure. It feels like it might be over on that one. And they had his picture next to Boston. They had his picture on the, he was, yeah, and I was like, oh, that'd be a nice site. What's up, Yance? No, I was just going to say like a lot of it, too, could be these teams that lose, like Minnesota loses, they're going to have to retool, get better, like they could go if Dallas loses, they go all get better, need a guy like him, Florida obviously didn't make playoffs. They're looking to retool, bring in guys. So I think there's going to be a ton of teams that want him, even though Aves wouldn't think it, so, but like the fact that you could add him to your team next year, if you're a team that's on the cusp is going to be going to be huge. We didn't even mention Calma Carmuch secure, Wiggle, Wiggle deck Shakira hips as I'm calling them now. Just going across. Just fucking just give him one of these across the blue lines. If I was ahead coach of a team or playing against him, I would tell my forwards. If you run out at him, I'm going to murder your family. Yeah. Stay. Stay. Stay off him a little. Stay eight feet to 10 feet away from him and just keep him in front of you. And the minute that he starts moving towards your net, just turn around and skate back. Like it's fucking. You saw that guy yesterday, it was a Taylor right. Yeah. It's your rookie. Oh, dude. There's a little pick play there and then he's like, I got to get out. And it's like, oh, man, don't do it. And then Kale was just licking his chops, blows by him. And how will Makar, like the minute that he's got a step on him, he just takes his, he takes his ice inside so now you can't even get to his stick because he's a righty, right? And he zips that puck. These goalies are holding their gloves like this now. And he throws it right at his elbow so you can't, it's hard for them to come down in real time where it's more comfortable to go up. He knows exactly where he's going with that puck. That guy for solo individual efforts at the blue. You can't tell me this guy's not the best offensive of the world. It's a joy and biz. He's like, when he puts his body into you, there's a 50% chance you could take a penalty on him because he's getting inside. You either got to hold them to not, the announcer's last night will like, if he beat you like that, you got to take him down and take a penalty because he's either scorn or you're going on the power play. I would have just skated through the tunnel. I would have just got off of what it's like. That was Taylor word, word's first playoff game, and he's like, oh my god, no, no, no. And you know right away. As a player, you know the second, the split second, you're beat. And then when it's a guy like him, you're like, I'm, this is going to end up so ugly and so bad. And the fact is they look like he might have recovered and maybe most D he did recover. Nope. No chance. You know, he's going to be at the bar this summer showing girls. This is me here. Get back. You know, getting toasted in his group chat by his boys. He was listening to this whole podcast, like all fucking rights that didn't talk about it. The last five fucking arrays world, but we're also saying, we're also saying like buddy. Oh, yeah. One of a million. Oh, yeah. This is not the badge of honor, be ashamed about. Well, like, like the senators, I mean, the Kings, I thought they were, I know, I picked them in seven. I was sort of my, my one upset pick on the first round, but I thought they were, except for the game for, they were in every game. I mean, they were very competitive, just, you know, outman, too much skill. Forsberg was terrific. I mean, except yesterday, he had a tough game in the game for, but Wedge would four or no, but one to one goals against nine, five, oh, say percentage. He kind of probably, you know, definitely quieted some critics right now. And I know you guys talked about Kobataroia, but I just want to, like, just, I love like the handshake line when it's the last guys, you know, going, time going through that, you know, him and Berndy, they competed, God knows how many times against each other. That's just real special shit. But while it's that though, you know, he, he actually only got out of the first round, three separate times in his career, like 12, 13, 14, but you win two cups. It's not the shit, a shabbiest thing in the middle time. They went to the West, the conference finals there. And also the Kings, since the new TV deal, the last couple of years, the Kings are the first and only team to make the playoffs all five seasons under the current TV deal and never have won a series. Just kind of a little statistical anomaly right there, too. And who would have thought a docs defenseman leading the playoff scoring, like Jacks are at home, eight points and four games, Brandon Hagel at goals. He's got six. I don't need him with seven assists as well. But want to give a shout out to our pal Kenny Elbert, named drop Keith. He has the most national broadcast of all time here in the state's Saturday was his 1545th call passing a legend, Dick Stockton through all four major sports. But that's awesome to do all four sports like that, you know, to be able to do it at that level. Awesome stuff. Keith, I know you ask if all right, Hamilton last week, so we'll do a couple, a couple flyer right here. Yeah. Kenny, Albert boys, like I, yeah, yeah, workhorse, machine, real guy, too, all the, all the travel, travel guys do too and the preparation man, yeah, hats off to him and all the other folks doing that. All right. This one is from Sky God 2000, all right, Hamilton. This is for everyone except business, since we know his answer. If you could go back in time and be a spectator on the set of any movie, which one would it be? What would you do with? Wow. Cool question. That is a cool question. So I, so I love Braveheart. And I think just like being around like those battle scenes. Unbelievable answer fields. I think and then being around like because there's so much outdoors in it and the way they film the battle scenes for me, if you're just standing where the director is and where the cameraman are, I think that'd be my pick. I, I actually wouldn't say there will be blood. I would have a different answer. And I would take a page. I would take a mine would be gladiator. Well, what was business? A gladiator's good one. Mine is also a war movie. I would take Ben her, just because I'm interested to how they made movies back then. Like it's just like it was a way, it was a way different era where there, there wasn't, there was no CGI. There was none of that, right? Yeah. Yeah. Everything was practical effects. Oh, very much so in that era. Plus you'd be taken down like extras in the big bushes every day on, what a mature answer is. Like, I'm like, I'm Brian, same, Brian, the beach, yeah, like on Normandy, that is, was it Omaha? Are. Yeah. Omaha Beach for the same. Brian. What do you got for us, bro? I see you sit there. I would say. I would say Wolf Wall Street, just because I actually heard when they were filming that, it was just, they weren't doing actual blow and doing like, I heard it was a crazy party though. And it was nuts and Margot Robbie. I think Margot Robbie in that movie is like the hottest girl of all time, but I'd love to be on set for that. All right. I'm going to go. Yeah. That's it. Catty Shack. Oh, great answer. There's actually a book. I saw it. The show, it's a, he, it's a book, it's probably the last one I read and I read it about three days, the make it a catty Shack. I mean, as you expect, the late '70s, Bill Murray, Chevy Chase, like enough said, they basically, they had it in the budget, I think there was, it was drugs, they didn't have it listed on the budget as drugs. They utilize it with something else, but they literally had it in the budget to buy, like, you know, whatever drugs they needed, obviously, weed, coke, whatever. and the only dude who didn't touch one thing the- like I don't month or whatever they filmed it down in Florida. Um, it was Ted night, you know, the fuck a judge smells like the optite guy with a put the white hair. No way. He was not a charge user. Not at all. That's true. Yeah. That you was incredible in it. Small drink. Check it out about. I've played, uh, you'll get nothing in like it. I've played the course. It was filmed that it's it's grandos. Yeah. Great. It's actually pretty sick. Yeah. Cool track. But it's uh, what a surprise. No one said, um, well, I'm shot. Oh, great call. Yeah. Oh, wow. That's it. Yeah. I don't shit. Well, I said that because I read it. If you're if you were behind the camera in the locker room, that would have been a classic. Even just like I'm sure they brought in, I'm sure they brought in like a bunch of minor league guys and NHL guy or whoever to like show them exactly how lock rooms and show where I bet it was a blast. Bruce Boudreau. He's in it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. His, his, uh, uh, uh, Reggie Dunlop is a Bob one was Bruce, Bruce, Bruce Boudreau's actual apartment because they need, they needed a dumpy apartment apparently. That's what they said when they talked about it. So yeah, pretty good stuff. Yeah. Let's see. Got one more for you. And we'll wrap it up here. Uh, do you have any other answers already? Yeah. Uh, uh, uh, as backup. Yeah. In animal house, uh, in revenge of the nerds, because they basically would just, you know, snakes on a plane. You know, the animal house in revenge of the nerds because they basically, it was like party central because they filmed the animal house. I believe it was the University of Oregon. And then the revenge of the nerds was Arizona University. And again, this is the late seventies of the late eighties like dudes would just got, you know, the whole cast of crew would be out all night, show up to the set on like an hour or two of sleep and just get, get at it once again. Like it was just like, you know, a two month long party here. Obviously, those are hilarious movies too. But oh, you did, you did mention buggy nights a few minutes ago. There's actually a great read, uh, an oral history. I think, uh, grant land that it years ago. When they were filming, um, buggy nights, biz, you know, Mark Walberg, my, my, bag, he wasn't much of an established actor yet. Uh, and meanwhile, he's going with John C. Riley and Julian Moore and Brent Reynolds, all these legends of stage and screen. Right. So Paul Thomas Henderson, like deliberately kept him like away from other, the other people on set. So it would increase his, like, feelings of isolation. They, you know, be coming into this new world. And I mean, you know, obviously seen the movie, Mackie Mac, it's by far his best role ever. So yeah, the director, like, delivered like I said, like to, to make him kind of like that innocent naive character. Yeah, well, just come into it. Just more so like that, you know, he, he wouldn't, he wouldn't get too, like maybe from A or a chummy with his co-stars. But, you know, because he was, he was a newbie in the, you know, in the movie, he was coming into this new industry. So yeah, he deliberately kept them from, you know, from his co-stars or early on. So like sort of feed the role. And I mean, sometimes, you know, direct, interesting, crazy tricks. So I thought you liked that. Paul Thomas Anderson's a genius. I love that guy. Yeah. Absolutely brilliant director. Hey, have you watched one battle after another yet? I haven't yet. I will. I will. That's a problem. I just got to get double 15 more. There will be blood watches in. And then I'm really happy. I watched the Godfather. I have to now watch Godfather too for the fall. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. Which, which is apparently better than Godfather one. I like it more. Yeah, both incredible. Yeah, business. They go flashback to when the Godfather was like 20 years old. That, that's a, that's a prequel. In Godfather too, they go back and forth between when what, what's Marlon Brando's old and comes into power and then back to when right now Michael Corleone's in power. It's I like it better. Yeah, I think you should watch it today after you relax to wind down. Yeah, I'm gonna, yeah, I'm gonna smoke a J and do that. That's awesome. Yeah. I, uh, one, uh, one last one here. This is a good one. This is from B. McCockiner and Y. Ranges fan. If you were in a saw like real life cinema, no, not that. No, not that one that's been on Twitter forever. This another dude here. Ah, anyways, if you were in a saw like real life scenario, would you be able to saw off your own, I'm a leg to save yourself because this is right. I don't think you, I don't think you like mentally can. It's very difficult, although there was a story about a guy who, um, I believe he got caught when he was rock client. Yeah, 127 hours. Yeah. Yeah. And he had to, maybe it was his leg yet amputate or one of his arms that he did to himself. Exactly. Would I personally like, yeah, I think obviously mentally, if it's life or death, you just have to kind of grind through it. I would love to think that like for my kid, like my kids, I would, yeah, I would do it. I mean, easier said than done. Maybe the all time easier said than. Couldn't even get wet and he adds a block of shots. I was gonna say, I'm on off the arm. I've lived a good, I've lived a good, good enough wife. I'm good. Uh, gee, what, what about you? Would you be able to pull that off? We think you could just pull his arm off. He wouldn't even have to cut it. It wouldn't take much hospital. It wouldn't take much. I think three or four saws in my wrist would be. So yeah, I think I risk probably, yeah, probably I could do. It's probably, uh, say you couldn't do the arm, but you had no problem taking some scissors to your wrist. Thought that I did see that movie too. I remember when, when he was, you know, based on the true story, like business mentioned, what he actually is cutting. And like, I, it's obviously not real. It's a fucking movie. But when he gets this, like, I never got the like worst, like, chills, goosebumps, awful feeling like when he cuts through, it was like 10 didn't because you just can imagine like how fucking awful that must have felt, but, you know, it's quite the testament of what, you know, what the human body will do. I'll tell you what, if Buffalo loses game five, there might be a Sabre's fan trying to cut my arm off. All right. Uh, all right. Well, I don't know. Well, boys, yeah, I know it's been a long one for you guys today. I play us, uh, you know, rolling along. Everything's been awesome. So five. So hopefully give you a little energy boost for the end of the month. They hear, and I, boys, I shut up to wit, man, like that despite how many else you've been taking, buddy, you've been carrying the content side of the game. And, uh, I mean, the, the amount of comments on that video you dropped last night, 6400. Wow. On the spit and check. Let's Instagram. I don't know. That's got to be some sort of a record or something. A man in the arena, boys. And I would say, maybe sit, take, uh, give 800 to Euler's fans, would you say 67, 6600? Would how many total 64, 6464. So let's say 5600. Just carving me. Yeah. But man in the arena and these tapes won't stop. And they never will stop. And this series ain't over. And everyone three hours. Thank you for tuning in with us. I'm going to do something very special right now. Little family feud action. The next week. Uh, so thank you to everyone. Thank you to the fans. Unbelievable. First round so far. That's why the shows are a little longer. So we appreciate you tuning in with us. Appreciate Netflix. Love all you guys. Thanks for our guests. Thanks for our sponsors. EJ, all our sponsors. Go get a Reese's. Thank my computer. Go get some more frames. Go drink some body armor. Right. Go bet on draft kings. We love you all. You guys are the best. I'm going to go touch some grass. Peace. Won't happen again. 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