Spittin' Chiclets Episode 639: Featuring Derek Stepan & Tripp Tracy

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Oh, they took a while. It took a while. Listen, Saturday afternoon, Ottawa, Carolina, Carolina suffocating. I was OK. Brady tried to start early. Brady tried. Brady tried. Right. But it's like, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. And then Minnesota just we'll get into all these Minnesota. Just a thumb. Whoa. Not a great game. I need some action. Pittsburgh, Philly. We saw a little hatred there. We saw a pretty. We saw a pretty good tilt there. But then Sunday came and Sunday started slow. Biz, you were there. You were there. The L.A. Kings get the L.A. Kings out of my face. I'd rather go watch like a four hour harmonica concert with the Korean ladies than watch them fucking play through the neutral zone. OK. OK. Right. But then then it's I'll tell you, Montreal, Tampa. I think I think we're in for a special one there. Montreal. Keith is now a Montreal Canadiens guy. He's got his jerseys. He's got his hats. They sent them everything. And then we went to the drunkest city in North America. Home where Buffalo. And then we really had ratcheted it up and playoffs was here. And Utah in Vegas. That got nasty. So. Oh, yeah. Death threats. It was seeing death threats. Who's getting them? Dowd is giving it to everyone. Oh, yeah. Cooley. Cooley got a death threat. And I don't even think Cooley did much. We'll get into that. But it just it was like a slow burn. And now now Monday's here. Spitting. Chickles. His. Live. We're talking all things playoffs so far. It's it's it's happening. It's now happening. There's no worry that. Oh, my God. What's going on with the first round? I don't know. This start has been great. No, no, no, no, no, no. Buffalo brought us back. Oh, yeah. We can talk Buffalo and we could talk this city. Also should mention Derek Stepan coming on today. He's all dialed in with the wild. He knows what's going on in the West. And my guy, Trip Tracy, the electric factory, the man who basically runs the show for the. Carolina Hurricanes. I could be in one. I could be in one with my bet. We'll get into that. But is this dog coming on? Who is this dog coming on? His dog is not coming. Who knows? Actually, Frank is in the middle of this one. Frank could be on. We'll get into that. Peter. Peter might be coming after you. Just like the Buffalo Sabres have been. So here's the thing. Buffalo and I. Buffalo and I are lockstep. Buffalo. OK. OK. I'll tell you right now. They they had a laugh. They had a laugh. They had a laugh. My expense. Great for them. But they've known. They've known 14 years. Spitting chiclets was four years away from even being created the last time they're in the plus. And throughout those 14 years, while making fun of them and calling them just a complete joke and a comedy show, I've said the fans don't deserve this. So they know they know I got them. But biz, the fans are back. And I'll tell you right now, I don't know if there's ever been a better pregame video than what we would. I was just going to say, I think that that. Beat out the whole Carolina Ottawa game. I think that was more entertaining than the Minnesota Dallas game. And we have to thank our boy, Matt Murley. He sent the video to our group chat in which was taken by a bill scout. So I don't know if he was scouting for maybe getting a couple cheap options for safety. Oh, D line. Yeah, that's a line that tackle. Oh, that was a D line. Yeah. But that video that ended up circulating on the Internet before puck drop. I mean, fuck that. That. Anytime. I'm in a bad mood moving forward. This is in a Risto Jersey. So. So listen, the video starts and we can just just quickly go over this video starts. And I'm like, oh, my God. Like these guys, they've created this giant circle of drunks in Buffalo. I think they've still been drinking since Chicklets Cup. Those guys were members of one of the rollerblade teams that was there. And when you see the Bruins, the Bruins dummy, Cam Neely, and then all of a sudden, this, this wrist, the line, and he's squaring off. He's backing up. But then the glove, the poor guy's glove. I don't know how it ended up behind. That's why you need a linesman. A linesman kicks those away. You're right. You're right. You're right. But they don't need linesmen in Buffalo. You're just drunk, too. Look, he's already he's behind him, but he's going to fight a man. But there's the glove. Neely would have jumped them if that was real life. If he'd fallen, Neely would have jumped them. That's true. And I think I think and then I don't know if that was planned. Because the guy comes from behind on roller. But the rollerblade crew, we've even mentioned them. I saw clips of those guys. They're bombing around downtown Buffalo hours leading up to they're waiting for the call. They're spearing each other. They're cross checking each other. They're squaring off. And then all of a sudden, like somebody brought the Bruins dummy there. And it was wrist alliance turn. But once wrist align falls, you know, his teammate, he's like, oh, I got him. I'll crush him from behind. Take a 20 game suspension. I'll then punch his head in. Completely just just crushing his temple. That's a broken orbital bone and Buffalo and the kid in the back with the green pants. He's like, it's like they just won the cup. He's like, kill like Jeremy Roenick when he scored that goal against Toronto in the second round. The one year. Yeah. Flyers high stepping. He had the knees up to his goddamn chin for Fox. How much wolf do you think those guys were on? I can't even. I can't even. It might have just been Pink Whitney, though. Honestly, you know, those those that fought the upper. You don't think so? I think you need a little wolf to go full Todd Bertuzzi on a fucking UFC dummy. I don't know about I don't know about you, Yance. What do you think? Yeah, no, I think that's just a lot of pent up emotions. They haven't been in playoffs for so long. That guy's there's probably been snow on the ground for the last six months. He hasn't been able to roll yesterday. I know, but at least like the snow gods kept the snow away early so the boys could roll blades because you can't roll blade on snow. My favorite part of that whole video is the the guy who comes in doing the splits. Let's get in the video in between. If we can pull that up, that guy's got unbelievable hip and groin action. And earlier there was a Sabres fan who he crawled at that cam nearly UFC dummy. And you're like, oh, what's he doing? Is he going low? No, he pretended to pee on him. Yeah, so it's just the whole city is so alive. And then in classic Sabres fashion, they had nothing to cheer for boys. And I'm sitting there and I'm like, oh, my God, like these people. I actually thought they might get a goal like early on in the game. And then it's. It's just the. roof blows off the key back key bump arena we'll call it and but no the Bruins man they played 52 minutes I'm not gonna say perfect hockey because Buffalo controlled the game but Swayman looked as dialed in as I've seen a goalie in a long time he looked like Hellebuck in the gold medal game yeah I'm like I don't know if they're getting one by him they were frustrating the D were playing great for Boston I thought physical physical oh my god Zadorov who did he kill was a donor that was don't that could have been bad on his left knee too luckily he kind of got that out of the way that was a that was a monstrous hit yeah but like I I when Morgan Geeky who scored the first one beautiful nice they get a one nothing lead they're on the road when he didn't shoot that puck I think that was the first period still end of the first I said I don't know man seconds I I by the way this is a sniper this is a guy who's turned into a you know 35 40 goal guy at least McKinnon in the Olympics shot the puck and missed the net I don't know I said I think his controller the battery died on the controller I don't know what he was thinking I was like that might come back to haunt him but they get the second piss maybe not maybe they're okay and then I don't know what happened to the Bruins defense I put the I put the loss on the defense I don't know what happened to the Bruins defense I put the I put the loss on the defense and and like I know what happened okay the Sabres fan started booing yeah I didn't like that biz you're right I mean hey you may maybe you didn't yeah maybe you didn't but it got them going the booze got them going man they got booed early in the season they got fucking bitched at when they didn't score in the opening game they had a tough start to the year and sometimes a when you're not playing well and you're not getting to the blue paint enough you got to hear it from the fans and you got to hear it from the fans and you got to hear it from the fans and you got to hear it from the fans and you got to hear it from the fans and you got to hear it from the fans and you got to hear it from the fans and you got to hear it from the fans and you got to hear it from is going to be so high in that locker room. So I'd be a little scared if I was a Bruins fan. But I think when your goalie plays like Swayman did, you're going to have a chance to win. And, you know, you just get looking forward to next game. I was very, very kind of surprised. Like, pasta misses two breakaways, right? Yeah. That's something where, and I don't know if you guys remember a couple of weeks ago, I asked R.A. I'm like, what's up with Bruins fans, like, questioning Pasternak? Like, all the guy does every year is dominate. He doesn't really have, like, another star to play with. And he still had three points, but I think the playoffs is when they kind of question him. Now, mind you, he's got 90 points in 91 career playoff games. So it's like another, but they question some of the turnovers and stuff. And last thing for me is when I mentioned the defense and the ability to not break it out, just the final 10 minutes, it all started, I don't know if you guys remember, Zdorov got the puck behind the net. He shot it 100 miles an hour off the glass, icing, almost took Pasternak's ear off. There was nobody near him. And they scored, like, a minute later. It was the first, Thompson's first. It was kind of like, I don't know, like, they just lost their cool. Like you guys said, they didn't play the entire 60 minutes. He was kind of giving it to him where he was like, hey, you got to tip that. No, no, no, no. He didn't say that. Yes, he did. That's like when Jovo used to fucking send, like, 100-mile bullet passes from 10 feet away, and they used to ricochet off your blade, and he'd be going up the ice doing the wrist curls thing. That's Pronger. Pronger says, this is the NHL, buddy. He's like, I was four feet away from you, and there was nobody near us. Like, why did you pass 100? Physics, bro. I couldn't have caught that with a fucking lacrosse stick there, Zdorov. Jesus Christ. I believe Peek had a tough one, too, right? Was that on the second one? Yeah. He tried eating it. He kind of couldn't have kept moving it up the wall, and then he fell over, and then it's in front. Thompson gets another one. Peek, I noticed, this is Twitter talk, Bruins fans, we're not thrilled with Peek's game. Yeah, I think you'll see Yokihari in next game for him. I wouldn't be surprised. All right, right to the press box. That's the Jeff Skinner treatment. That's what they call the Jeff Skinner treatment. Hell of a run. I think you've got to put him upstairs. You have to. Yeah. Going back to Thompson's first, too, though, for him to get his stick around the post and sneak that in before Swayman ended up closing that off, that was a pretty remarkable move. I mean, he's got that. He's got that short stick, too. Like, he's a big, long guy, but he doesn't use a very long stick. So the fact that he was able to, like, reach around and tuck that in, pretty clutch goal to get things going for the Buffalo Sabres. But, oh, my God, like, a lot of these, a lot of the entertainment, like you said, was coming from outside the building and celebration after that one, too. And I will say, I think, I thought Byram was outstanding. I mean, I thought he was the best player on the ice for Buffalo most of that game. He looked on. At one point, Kastelik had him. He had him lined up. He was going to send him to next week, and he just kind of danced him in the defensive zone. He was all over the ice. So we'll see what happens game, too. I'll tell you one thing that will happen, though, is it'll be the exact same madness outside the arena. And according to Merle's, every road game when the Sabres are in the playoffs is the same thing. So the city, they love drinking. They love sports. They love the Sabres, and they love drinking. So I also, I'll mention this. I have been invited as a guest of the Buffalo Sabres to be there for game five. That's a true honor. They told me they have a content idea for me. I'm down to do anything. Laugh at me. Make fun of me. Through a table. That is something that I would love to experience. Based on what I witnessed last night, I need to see a game there. The only thing I'm worried about is this family feud thing. That's a different storyline. Barstool sending family feud teams. I don't know when the tournament is to try to get into family feud. I really hope I don't have to miss the Buffalo game for family feud. At what point, like how deep of a run? Do they have to go on for you to get slammed through a table and or the ketchup and mustard thing in your face? I'm not dying for either one of those, man. I know, but where you got a table, you got all season coming up here. Why can't I just go like hang with them all? Let them make fun of me and chug beers. Why do I have to get ketchup mustard in my face? You're going to do that. You're going to do that game five. But if they go on a run, you got to fuck it. There's got to be some sort of build up here. You got to. What do you think? What if they make them? Watch the game from the billboard. Just sit up there and he has to watch it on his phone. It's like, hey, yeah, we got something planned for you. Big ear dickhead. Yeah, we where's my seat? It's I climb that 400 step ladder to the top of that billboard. And then in the second period, I go over the other billboard on the other side of town. What about what? What about this? You have to join the blade gang round two. Oh, that would be awesome. I feel like I could. I feel like that might end up worse than the slam. I think I think if there's one person who could get beat up by a UFC dummy, it might be wet. Yeah, true. True. That if that UFC dummy hits me with like a maybe. Oh, a Sean Dursey head. But we'll get surprised. That was that was a little interesting. But all right. Buffalo takes Buffalo takes kind of funny because that he did it to Rasmus Anderson and Rasmus Anderson has a history of headbutting a guy, too. I think he got Yamamoto back. He's got a big old bison head, too. I wouldn't want to get hit with the Andersons. That was great. Wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy. All right. We go down to Florida now. We're kind of hopping all over the map here. The Montreal Canadiens power play guys. It finished 10th in the regular season. This is Keith. This is Keith's team. It might be his team because of the power play. He loves to hop in here. Yes. That that top unit was the second best power play unit in the league other than Edmonton's. So when those top five guys are on the ice. Oh, they're the second best. Power play. Yeah. And those top five guys are Lane Hudson, just a superstar defenseman. It's it's come so easy to him. Can't believe how good he is. But but I totally can. I guess Nick Suzuki, 100 point player Slavkovsky, who in typical wit fashion to call them a boss. He's incredible. I think third youngest Canadian to ever get a hat trick in the playoffs. They got some decent guys and players in that franchise. Then you got Demogod, who's just a wizard. The next Kucherov. And then. Who am I forgetting? Cole Caulfield, 50 goal score, second in the league in goals. They scored three goals. Slavkovsky gets a hat trick on the power play, including the game winner. I take away from this game, though, what we said last week at Secaucus. Vasilevsky. Playoff Vasilevsky. Something's going on. That was a 790 save percentage last night. And the winning goal. It was one of the worst angles I've seen him ever have. And he was cheating blocker side. He looked like he didn't even get tipped. I don't know if he lost it through the stick on puck where Slav did a good job of getting around it when Chernak came out and try to try to at least tip it and make it go wide. But my goodness, buddy, even that Anderson goal, the first one, like he was cheating back door. I mean, it's not fair. That was a little two on all. So I get it a little. I know. But as Hank broke it down, he's like, man, he's like his stick was going to block the pass. There's no way his sticks end up going to get in that lane that far out. And he said, like, it's good to be ahead in your mind, but he's reacting as if though that play is already being made. So he kind of put that on Vasilevsky as well. And I mean, I would say that that's probably the easy scapegoat, but the fucking stupidity of the Tampa Bay Lightning taking four offensive zone penalties, including the I mean, one of the most clutch players of our time in playoff time, Jake Gensel. What was he thinking there? It would have been a high stick if he hit it. Not only that, but it's like you're thinking, oh, OK, maybe he didn't think anybody was around him, but he got back pressure like he got shoved from behind. And and then all of a sudden he busts out the lightsaber and fucking hits Goulet right in the yap, man. I I couldn't believe it. And then on top of that, you're going into the third period. You're like, oh, my God, Florida is going to be coming out here with the fresh ice. So, Jens, you're you're the the can I do the habit on insider? What do you what do you got for us? What do you got for us most? Yeah. Yeah. I think especially. Going into an overtime, you get fresh ice coming out. I think the the way that Slavkoski beat Vassie on that, I don't think Vassileski thought he was going to shoot it because there's no one in front of the net. I think he's just like, all right, he's going to pull up, look for somebody late. And he kind of just surprised them. Great shot. And then the least, you know, the goalies nowadays, they just go down. They're not like I mean, Vassie is a good catcher and all that stuff, but they kind of just go down and hope it hits him. And I think he got a little lazy with his glove and it just went a little bit over it. But their power play, man, like you look at you look at Colorado and you look at Montreal like Colorado is holding on to pucks, waiting for lanes to open, you know, not moving it around quick, not getting shots where the Montreal guys, they have it on their stick for a second. Then it's to somebody else. Then it's a shot. Then the seams open up and guys retreat pucks, retrieve pucks really well. Demogod, you don't know if he's passing or shooting. He's so deceptive with the puck. Hudson up top, walking, opening lanes. He's up for everybody. I just love where all their guys stand and Caulfield's obviously always ready to cock and load, but he he didn't have to today. But, you know, he's another guy. Once you give him a couple reps, give him some good looks, he's going to get hot. But when a power plays humming like that, you can't take penalties, A, but you cannot take penalties in 200 feet from your own net. And I saw a press conference with Coop after he was disgusted with it. I'm sure in his mind, he's like, listen, a lot of my guys have been there, done that. They're going to, you know, they'll figure out for game two this is a brain fart of a game but if you're gonna win series and put teams away you can't do that in the first game and give teams life because you know with a power play like that it's all confidence right like when you're on a power play and in you know you see that ref's arm go up and you're licking your chops to get out there it's it's it's a huge uh momentum boost for your team and um suzuki who's probably gonna win the selkie that's what everybody keeps saying like i'm not as dialed in as maybe some of these other guys who get votes but that zone entry um in that overtime and shout out to martin saint louis to call the time out yeah keep his guys fresh like that's one thing that i mean you could talk about that play in particular or the fact that like you just mentioned those five guys on the power play wit outside of suzuki who's who's a little bit older now all those guys are young guys all those guys he's not that old what is he 26 no i know but i'm saying is like you can you can like directly correlate like he was he was starting to come up even before martin saint louis took over as head coach and obviously he's probably had just as big of an impact on suzuki as those other guys but to take those young guys and you mentioned like you know talking about slab being a bus like in this short period of time what he's done with caulfield in in the acceleration of the goal department um the mike kelly came on before the game and um year over year the distance of his goals and how much closer he's getting to the net so obviously he's working hand in hand with martin saint louis to like get closer get to those harder areas there's a reason he got over 50 tucks this year uh demigod to step in and doing what he's doing like a lot of this has to do with coaches and how you're communicating and talking to these young guys which as we know isn't always the easiest thing especially in today's day and age so a lot of credit to saint louis and also there was a few times in that game where i don't know what you guys thought of that call where they called the interference and then they called the four minute high stick so it's kind of like chicken before the egg like does he interfere with or does he get the high stick up if he's not interfered with and as frustrated and angry as martin saint louis probably was he kept the cool he called the ref over he's not yelling he's not fucking throwing the ref under the bus and making him look like a fool publicly he just having a conversation and as frustrated he is he kept his cool and i think that's what he's doing and i think that's what he's doing and i think that's what those things matter especially in over the course of a long series when you're going against a coach who's got two stanley cups who coaches team canada and who has as much as respect as coop has so pretty remarkable stuff from the canadians in game one yance yeah but when you when you have a coach especially with a young group when if you have a coach behind the bench losing his mind game one it's gonna it's gonna affect the younger players they're gonna be like okay he's losing his mind maybe we should lose our mind but the way he he handles that bench and his players is remarkable and you know i i played with him i i you could tell he could have been a coach even when he was playing he was always helping guys helping guys in the power play five on five just so smart uh and and so willing to help out so you can just tell his fingerprints are all over this team and it's cool to watch and in in the past hundred years in the nhl and in the next hundred years there will always be players that they're just waiting for the playoffs they they they have a certain role throughout the regular season 82 games there's moments you see it and then moments you're asking for more josh anderson was just chomping at the bit to get into the playoffs i thought that was tom wilson he was running around like tom wilson he reminded me of tom wilson i think he completely i i don't know if that that's true that that's too however you say his name is okay he crushed him behind that ended up getting a penalty on that one in which montreal scored i think that was the radish goal but i think st louis like don't care don't care don't care don't care don't care don't care because for much of all a super skilled fast maybe a little bit smaller team no no we'll take this we need this this is another aspect that we have now with a raging lunatic running around killing people anderson's willing to fight but he is just the definition of one of those guys kind of like barbashev and you saw it in the utah vegas game just get me to the playoffs and then my game translates so much better to the game that we're playing i played against that anderson in the ahl when when lake erie won a championship he was on the playoffs and he was on the playoffs on worensky's team and he had that fucking you'd tell when the wires can cross uh what what an interesting game for anderson he scores the first one then he gets the one disallowed then he murders that guy behind the net uh just a just a wild game i actually thought he was going to get the ot winner but uh definitely a gamer and i mean i think it was his first playoff goal going back all the way to the bubble when they ended up playing tampa in the finals it was one of the ot goals i think it was to force it to game five uh we're going to see what happens next but i think it's going to be they ended up getting beat but uh he was was he the one who fought tom wilson on the bench last year too i believe so yeah yeah yeah yeah because they had beef going back to like junior right oh they have a history yeah oh okay interesting okay well yeah he's uh he's mini wilson out there for sure so uh pretty uh pretty frustrating game if you're a tampa bay lightning uh the positive takeaways obviously radish still has that fucking bomb uh cooch was making some plays uh but to me it's all about haggle man that guy's a fucking mutant i looked up last night because i i i was like when was he drafted six round six round i and you know i almost don't want to include russians you know how like you get like datsuk or guys like that that were six round like he might be one of the greatest six round picks in the history of the nhl and and chicago gave him away fucking chicago chicago don't know what they're thinking there um all right hey chicklets fans we're going to take a quick break for a message from one of our viewers our partners stella blue coffee's new can lattes are here crafted with 100 colombian coffee each can is a good source of protein and comes in two smooth flavors espresso cafe mocha and espresso sweet cream and whether you're braving your morning commute or chasing your pup stella blue cans are for those always on the go and for those who care stella blue is more than just great coffee it's about 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go to the slam to the table or the blade gang i have some sick rollerblades um i don't know if i'm dying to be like dripping sweat and spearing ufc dummies before the game so i might go table slam but table slam would have to be cup finals if they're in the cup finals which by the way if they play edmonton then i'm going into the belly of the beast with my oilers jersey on and i'll still let them slam me through a table so we'll see how that goes all right maybe we can get steps opinion let's bring them in derrick step on this guy's been watching a lot of hockey boys he's been watching a lot he's ready to go what's up step what's going on fellas how are we doing we're doing great man we're we're as excited as anyone because you know 82 games you played a long time it's a grind and as a player you just can't wait you get into the playoffs you're the excitement level in your in your soul is just different no oh it i like i'm i'm trying my best not to sound like you when it's like if you're watching some other sport right now and you're not tuning in to the nhl you're nuts because it's been two days of like non-stop action it's been it's been so much fun to watch holy cow i think the the maybe the drama leading into the minnesota dallas series was the fact that quinn hughes was a little under the weather now i saw billy g walking him into the building is it true that he made him chicken noodle soup ahead of game one like handmade chicken noodle soup with with some of his some of his woods wood stuff it was a wooden bowl he made i was just gonna say that you took it from me yeah you you brought him away from me i was just gonna say that you took it from me yeah you you brought him away from me i was just gonna say that you took it from me yeah you you brought him away from me wooden bowl uh i don't actually have any intel for you there so uh i'm not sure what happened but it didn't look like he slowed down at all he was they looked so good i mean it's a it's a good start long ways to go but um yeah they look they look good and they were firing all cylinders which is great step uh minnesota kind of you know i think it was merle said they were the fraud squad coming in the last like month or so they just kind of looked like they were on cruise control going into this i mean they were locked up for a while knowing you're gonna play dallas do you sense that it was just kind of like all right let's just get the playoffs then we can turn it on because you saw a different level from them uh than what you've seen probably the last you know month and a half oh we've been there you know like when you're locked in and maybe not as early i don't remember ever being that early locked into who you're playing um but it's hard to play and i think you know even if you you want to say all the right things and you want to do all the right things but it it doesn't always translate and you saw spurts of it like i think uh the detroit game was is like towards the end there you kind of saw him turning on a little bit um but yeah i think it's it's just a tough time to play when you're already locked in and it's like let's just get to it yeah i kind of heard you guys talking about like they were just jones and to get to game one and step like i couldn't believe this stat that the wild have never led a series to nothing in franchise history this game this game coming home if they can get up to nothing like it's enormous and we can't believe this stat that the wild have never led a series to nothing like it's enormous and we play off hockey like minnesota same thing man they got to that conference final years ago they haven't been able to get out of the first round and all of a sudden game one i picked dallas kind of regretted it because i think without hints and i don't know when he's back they're not the same team but looking at the first game like there's no way you could have expected that right no no i you know i it's funny you look at the brackets and like when i look at the east i could look at it and pick one team and and predict it one way and then walk away from it and come back and completely look at it a different way but in the west you look at it and i looked at the series and i was like this is going to be a war this these two teams are going to go at each other and they got high end skill um so yeah real good start uh you know take care of business tonight and and you know you just try to control what's in your your ballpark all right game one's about that we're going to game two and and try to take advantage i think i would say the one not not criticism but the one thing that dallas for sure had coming in this series was more strength up the middle but no rupee hints is a big factor here i don't think a lot of people realize how good eric sinek is yeah yeah i i underestimated him he is he is such a gamer and like uh you know mike kelly once again he came on before our game with tnt and talked he's one of the league leaders and puck battles won and just talk about what like he brings to the table and maybe like what goes unnoticed from a guy who's such a dog and doesn't get the credit he deserves yeah and and i know you guys are talking about anderson this is a similar player that loves to play playoff hockey like he loves it like he gets into people's faces um he scores goals like hard goals like this he is such a big piece of this team and and he's a leader um he plays he drags people into the fight which you know that's hard to find and he's just a huge piece and when he was out of the lineup throughout the year it's it's a very noticeable hole so he's a ginormous piece especially at this time of the year uh step a lot of i mean you guys did the pretty much the two goalie system going in and you went with wallstead last game were you surprised by it or was it kind of one of those things if you're around you knew he was going to get the net first game i you know i wasn't really around much of those conversations or anything like that so i don't know but from my view and what i saw is two goalie system both played well all year uh towards the end it looked like wally kind of just had the better edge uh just had had better matches down the mat uh down the down the stretch so i'm sure they just went with the hand that was was playing well and uh obviously he looked real solid when you talk about you know poise and control um you know he did he did his job and that's that's what you need at this time of the year step if before the series had began like what would have been your key factors in order to come out and and win this thing despite going against a a very difficult dallas team like ahead of time and are you in involved in some of these conversations via like pre-scout and and maybe helping with with pointers going in nope not involved in any of those uh just um i'm actually not really around the big club a lot at all uh throughout the year just do a lot of college stuff run into g all the time uh but i would say the big factor for me and it's always the same thing when it comes to playoffs is power play like i think you know you talk about the montreal canadians you need to score early and often and get that power play rolling because they can change a game and and the two teams dallas and minnesota are very similar and similar and matched and it's going to come down to special teams for me i i think we should mention too though last year dallas lost 6-1 to colorado in game one so they've they you know they've been through this they're not good in game once i think they're horrendous yeah horrendous it's weird and then you are putting yourself like it's you know you're they always have a tough matchup like you said this matchup we knew these two were playing before buffalo started winning like that's how long ago it was kind of set in stone these two um so dallas i think will come back i just do wonder about ottinger a little bit like last year you know his last game he's pulled the boards fired it's a totally different staff everything's changed but i don't know if there's confidence issues in the in the playoffs he just he didn't look great but like we said they they did get crushed in game one last year for many though i think hartman's important and i know it's a it's a goal he scores he doesn't really you know he scores it he doesn't do anything it's just a favor shot that goes in off him but that's another guy kind of erickson x style rat pain in the ass and probably he's a piece of shit probably is almost told from john heinz like to to keep it like within himself a little bit because he can get he can get a little insane out there at times well then he fucking headbutt somebody or like choke somebody off a face off yeah i didn't i mean some guys like that but i don't know about you steph yeah i listen he again you talk about the middle of the ice and ecky and how important he is and artsy's moved to the middle with um grill and zook and his game has been excellent and i think he always has to play that weed line a little bit like he has to have some of that edge but also now you're playing with the big boys so you gotta play some hockey too um and he's done a great job of balancing it and yeah some middle of the ice is important he he is kind of really stepped up in a big way down the stretch steph zook like we played with him we know what he's like in the locker room how good was he like just like his patience coming in over the blue line making plays holding on to pucks and if he's dumping it he's making a good dump so hartman can go and get it and then they get it to corral but how good is he and like what does he bring to that line before you answer that what was he like in the locker room the best and just said that was he a silly bastard he's unbelievable he is one of one like he will give it to you if you need to hear it and he doesn't care who you are he'll give it back to the coach like he is he is unbelievable he's funny too so he's he's a it's a good it's a when it's not going great he's a guy that can you know maybe say something to kind of loosen up the group and when when you need a kick in the balls personally he's not afraid to be like hey you're taking too long shifts what are you doing yeah you know like i i got a story quick i think it was torts he torts is like zook why are you taking such long shifts like you're you're out there for a minute and a half like and he looks at him right on the bench he goes sorry i'm in great shape i don't know what to tell you so like that's the stuff that's the stuff that's the stuff that zook is just like and then hockey was like his hockey iq is stupid it's unbelievable like his hockey iq is what makes zook so special he's got talent but he's just so smart like he's two three plays ahead and and he executes he he's pretty much executing everything he's thinking about which is is you know that's what makes him special so he like he likes taking the piss um uh there was a clip when he threw that charity game overseas somebody like dressed as him it was thorensen i think okay okay it's an all-time clip it's an all-timer i don't know if we're able to pull it up while we're still talking to him to run it uh g but uh does he so he uses a very long stick too right i think he shortened it too like he when he first came in it was like i think he shortened it up a little bit and then he got it really short and then he like went back the long way like it's crazy how long the stick is but it's like he'll come in and he just like flicks pucks and he just the puck just goes man like he shoots the puck extremely hard like really hard for a guy that doesn't pull the trigger very often the ends do you have a funny zook story uh when i left new york signed in florida i was talking to the guys before the game whatever just had a stick in my hand and he was like hey can you sign me a stick so i signed him a stick and in the middle of the game i look over he's using the stick he's like he's like gino where he could just like grab a stick and use it he didn't give a shit and and he's like yeah i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know he's like yeah he's like ah well it looked good when i was walking back to the locker room so i used it no shit or you you must have been howling i was crying how many how many how many guys on the bench did you nudge and say hey look at a stick i called the time out and told everyone well it is nuts because he's not big he's not fast so it is it is just a hockey iq type guy where like he's just always making the right play with the puck but step before we go on i want to talk pittsburgh philly being in minnesota and and mentioning like the lack of success they've had like those fans are starving huh like i imagine game three is going to be incredible atmosphere but like talk about the passion in minnesota for the wild even without a cup and without really any runs lately at all yeah it's uh it's you know i i don't think we have the buffalo atmosphere quite there because that alcoholics is yeah it's it's but it is something that you know this state is ready for um they you know it it is it is needed and billy has put in a lot of work for it to to the time has come and and um yeah i'm looking i'm i'm i don't want to say too much i don't want to get too jacked up here because yeah like this is this is something that this state this this minnesota wild fans have been waiting for and they they've got the pieces in place now so now it just it needs to happen all right well we'll be be tuning into that one tonight can i ask him one last one yeah go ahead biz most underrated underappreciated minnesota wild player right now that you just love and and and who doesn't get talked enough about well i think i think your office had a good good first full season like he's he uh you know he's he's got he's a really good hockey player and he's playing a role that maybe is is um new to him and so he's i thought he i thought he's had a really good season and um yeah he's a big piece with that russian line love it i actually i got one more for faber we saw a little i mean you see him in usa you know he's obviously after being hilarious had his glasses on you see that he has a personality a how good is he on the ice for you guys and what does he bring to that team in the locker room too because he seems like a young guy that can kind of bring everybody together whether you're old or young like he seems like the guy that is bringing everybody together yeah absolutely and i think you know since quinn has come over uh babes his game is like went way higher like he is learning so much from quinn just playing alongside of him and you know offensively you know doing some things that quinn is doing you see brock start to do it now so it's it he's just like i think he's just such a good defenseman as it is like defending wise and quinn is just making him even better offensively and and just keep pushing that and those two guys on the ice together it's it's fun to walk man like they they're out there for 30 minutes a night and they just and they're able to do it at a high level so they split them up at one point right like for for like a hot minute yeah i think it was like kind of in that you know we're talking about that little like stretch down where they just i don't know i'm not sure why they did but they did and i i think uh they they seen enough of that and they're like let's just get them back together back together okay sometimes like they're both like good enough with the puck and offensively i just figured maybe that they would break them up to like spread it out but you think they're going to be able to do it that they'll remain together uh for the rest of the playoffs i mean i would i i think maybe it was i i don't know maybe it was for you know down the stretch going into playoffs maybe to kind of limit ice time to split them up so that they're not playing half the game but i'm not sure why they did it but i like it when they're together i mean i i think the ability to then have brodeen with spurgeon like that top four is crazy and then middleton and bogosian are kind of the perfect five six i mean i love harley i love heskin in but then you see quinn hughes i personally he's at a different level than miro heskin in um the ability to just he has the puck on his stick when he's out on the ice the whole time it's it's crazy and the quick turns and just he never throws it away so i think it's i think we're in for a long series you're right step can't get ahead of ourselves but that game one we got to pump the wild a little bit and going to the battle of pennsylvania boys i was i was adamant i like pittsburgh a lot that was one of those game ones where it's like oh shit i'm kind of i'm not switching my pick i'm not regretting it but it went completely different than i thought it would go and philly pissed them off they were in their face skinner who was i saw catching heat from penguin spin skinner was the only reason they were in the game through he was unreal yeah he was unbelievable he he bailed them all big time they had uh philly had 13 chances and in in pittsburgh gave them 10 of them so it's like they were giving pucks away they were making it easy and skinner was bailing them out he i thought he was tremendous i didn't see that he was getting any heat but if he was that's bullshit because if it wasn't for him that game could have been six two and it seemed like uh pittsburgh just like eric carlson said after like they outplayed us in every way we did not deserve to win that game it was just shocking for for a pittsburgh team who's surprised a lot of people but they've been solid all year besides a little tough stretch um you know like 10 50s and stuff like that games in they gave up four breakaways darth vladar is back pittsburgh gave up four breakaways through two periods but it was the physicality like that tippet hit on connor doerr he i mean talk about just standing up a guy and then staring him down along with travis sanheim was the best maybe player on the ice easily tone gets one of the you mean you mean mccarr he did i'm a biz he looked like mccarr that's like mccarr and sleep are you kidding me did you teach him that yans oh yeah yeah he he learned it all from me no sandy's unbelievable like he was a wet blanket as biz like to say on sid and to do that you could tell like at that last um when they had that exchange when they were going back at each other and sid ended up slashing him like sandy's such a respectful guy like you could tell he really didn't even want to do it he's like dude this is one of my idols i don't want to take advantage of him but he's like hey fuck it it's playoffs i absolutely loved sanheim's game obviously when he's scoring goals and being offensive like that that's just the added bonus because i think what he makes his money at is being a really good defender breaking pucks out getting pucks up to his forwards quick but uh the way that he can skate and defend uh he's gonna get some opportunities on the offensive side and he did and he and he made it count and uh he he was unbelievable if he can play like that then this series i we're all gonna wish we can go back and switch our pick please tell me while i was putting on my mask you guys mentioned captain couturier we have not mentioned him yet but that was dude are you kidding me who didn't you crush early in that game who didn't he crush he had fucking seven or eight hits career high in playoffs guy fucking took a time machine back to his prime that was to me the most valuable line you know why boys they started the game with them it calmed all the young guys down he went out there he started laying the body and all the younger guys said fuck we can we can play with these guys we can keep up with this penguins team and listen i think army said it best in the group chat i think there was a lot of guys who you know i don't think doer played the last four games of the regular season i think they had maybe had some injuries coming in that was one of the best fourth lines in all of the nhl all regular season they were completely out of it and they were out of it and they were completely neutralized by captain couturier and the other mutants uh uh glenn denning and then who's the other one that missed the empty netter in utah this year i'm forgetting hathaway hathaway so just a a an incredible game by the fourth line for the flyers to calm things down and buddy it was they they were they defended so well in unison where it wasn't one guy going it was all guys perfect timing where they were given no time and space to the pittsburgh penguins they dominated that game and deserve deserve to win it and the fact that i feel bad for that soda blom he had the fucking he had the fucking walker stick out going out to the blue line i don't think anybody in the world thought that sanheim was going to pull that move off to his backhand and then walk to the middle and zip that thing i don't think anybody thought that the the guys uh in the like zegras was mentioning after getting back to couturier like what he was saying in the room before the game was pregame kind of what to expect i think there's 10 guys on philly who've never played a playoff game and just like explaining how different the pace is and we've all been through that first game i've talked a lot about mine auto outshot us 20 to nothing in the first period you're like this is a different sport right now but step you're talking about all the college scouting you've done we got to see porter martone in penn state right away it was like holy shit this kid and riker lee looked different out there what did you see from him and and i think that was his game he's got five goals 11 points already did you see it happen in this quick for him uh so i watched him all year we had charlie scramble their first rounder for the wild and they were on a line together and they were their line was solid all year long and he was a big part of it of of bringing like that physicality in college hockey and bringing it to the net and having skill and on the power play like not passing up on shots now i probably would tell you i didn't think that it would start like this for him i mean i i guess that you know you could tell that he was different like you said than the rest of the guys you just never know when you take the next step sometimes it does work sometimes it doesn't he's been excellent and i'm sure i'm sure you know if you if you wanted to if you were if you think about it too like if michigan state goes to the final you know goes to the finals yeah he he's not in the lineup maybe for philly at all like it's it's a crazy crazy way to think about like i don't even know if you would get a regular season game so then is he just playing game one so for him unfortunately for michigan state they lose but he gets to go start his nhl career and he starts it with his hair on fire he's he's he's a key piece of the series now as a as a first year guy that's a great point you you dealt with it with when you saw crider do it in new york right like when a guy comes in does that how much help does that give the locker room when a young guy can come in and bring you that juice i think it's it's it's cool just like the the the amount of energy they have just like coming to the rink and just seeing the facilities let's not even talk about hockey like just bringing that energy back like oh look how cool look how much fun he's having just being here it kind of just gets everybody on the same page like this is awesome we this we get to do something awesome and then on the ice they're younger they got the fresh legs and you know they're they're jacked up to play their game so they just kind of drag you into the the excitement of the game again i don't think uh i don't think sid's best game i think he looked a little bit frustrated uh people questioning whether he's fully healthy or not i think that that's been kind of uh shot down he is healthy just you know maybe just not his best performance wit dog yeah i i thought that was for sydney crosby it was like i just which makes me think he's gonna be flying tonight um just figuring like him bouncing back from a very very rare off night for him you got to think he's ready to go but you said frustrated malcolm was pissed off from the start latang looked pissed off it was like philly did exactly what they wanted to do they just wanted to be in their face they were way more physical and shout out vladar biz's boy he's got the mask on i mean russ makes it 3-2 and there's still time left dude manta oh yeah front like he tries going five-fold that was a big save they i mean they they were this close to tying it up and then that's one of the things you go into overtime with the momentum who knows how that game goes with vladar what's crazy is that pittsburgh only had 17 shots like a great offensive team this year was just smothered and this could be an example of these teams that are fighting and fighting and we've said this a million times like when you're playing playoff hockey with 12 15 games to go in the regular season a lot of times the series starts and yes it ramps up but like you've already been in these do or die games and and pittsburgh's they've been pretty good to go like they've known they're they've been in a little longer obviously and all of a sudden philly's not changing a thing like that game they wanted to get into the playoffs against carolina they're down to nothing in that game they get that win and it's just kind of like you could tell their confidence there is crazy and mitchkov didn't do anything he played 11 minutes but and flyers fans probably wouldn't have believed this but he doesn't need to like be your star player for you to win games right now because martone's come in and he's kind of the young guy all these other older players are looking at like this guy's our horse if we're talking about young guys he's kind of the young guy all these other older players are looking at and then even that denver barky kid he's screening the goalie on dry stills first one he's in front of the net he only played around 11 minutes too but the ice time's pretty even all throughout the flyers uh forward group and i think pittsburgh ends up getting the win tonight but if they don't it's going to be shocking to me uh pretty pretty cool things you guys see the t-shirts the bernie parant t-shirts no with the old school goal that's kind of their motto going in uh belief with the front mask and then the 3.8 percent uh which is what they had as far as a chance to make playoffs except why are you laughing i'm because i can't take you seriously the helmet nobody can take me seriously nobody does without the helmet on i've came to the dark side wait i think this is a huge game for dan muse because he's gonna have to make some changes right like they've been playing the way and they just got beat on a different type of game like he's gonna have to show if he's a coach of the year caliber here by making some changes here you know getting the guys to buy in for this next game and another guy i need a little more out of his mantha he's got to play more like anderson he's huge out there he i don't know if he even i saw him hit the glass a couple times but he's got to be a guy that's making it uncomfortable for the d-men on philly i would think that brazzo would come back in um he didn't play i don't think it's an injury get soderblom out of line soderblom is a he's six foot ten it doesn't really hit i it's like i don't know that's just and this is coming from a six four guy who didn't hit so i feel like i could talk about this um but that should be a good one tonight pittsburgh they gotta bounce back doing the fucking chopstick dance on the sign at sanheim goal so get him in the press box eating sushi yeah for sure all right we're gonna go back out west um a series i was very excited for vegas utah very different styles utah's fast i never really think of vegas as a super fast team um and utah man that turned into a physical like kind of nasty game pretty quick which i think vegas would like i don't necessarily think utah like was looking at it that way but they seem to have no problem getting involved with that they get out to a lead i got to admit guys i got to admit this is when i i said this on wake up bar so this is when we make our money playoffs i passed out halfway through the third period uh actually i passed out about four minutes into the third period and woke up to a to a you know it was 2-1 utah all of a sudden it's 4-2 that that's on me i can admit that i i then re-watched vegas just came alive i couldn't believe though barbashev and blutman our vegas correspondent he said since the cup run barbashev has not been the cigarette machine killer that he was no i think torts talked to him i tweeted that torts might have made a highlight film from made him sit in the dark and watch it from the stanley cup run barbashev was murdering everyone and and vegas they look like a real threat boys yes they do yes they do that power place mark stone my god that guy just knows where the fuck to be all the time eh just a piece of shit in front of the net just mocking a physical just a slippery motherfucker any step he it's it's i i have so much respect for him because at times he looks just horrible ugly ugly and this guy just gets it done and it's it's uh you know it's funny because torts is i i know torts and i he's not much of an x's and o's guy he doesn't do a whole lot of that with the with their group it's just motivation and it's just it's just how can i squeeze that little bit extra toothpaste out and i'm sure he had that conversation with barbashev and said hey this is the new highway that you're going to be going on so it's they came up with a new highway and yeah what i mean what a physical series or what a physical game one though i i didn't i did not expect that i did not expect that from those two teams i don't think a few of the utah guys who are new to playoffs uh expected it either they looked a little bit shy one guy who didn't though cooley cooley was easily the best player on the ice for utah if he would have scored that one goal oh my god he fucking dangled i forget who it was the defender where he went inside outside and he was on his backhand and thankfully eichel kept back checking and broke it up because if he didn't he might have had the nicest goal in stanley cup playoffs bar none maybe it would have lasted the whole fuck this whole year this whole playoff year but uh just a little the inexperience in that third period definitely uh paid off for the vegas gold knights capitalizing on that pp and then a guy i played with want to call their cup with doubt what a trade that was i don't know why they let him go in washington but a great fourth line player great on face off he competes his dick off they go and win that battle in the offensive zone on the turnover and then they go for the high tip in front of the night i think it was hannifin who saw him yeah unbelievable just a beautiful play instead of sending it to the net he finds that stick and then that made a 3-2 and it game over and i think with vegas too we talked about it with buffalo not getting away from their game because utah was trying or they were a it was like all right keep trying to hit us we're bigger and stronger we're gonna hit you it's gonna wear down and then you see it in the third period it's just taking their tolls on and taking their tolls on it and biz you remember tip used this or it was a king or that used to say loose pucks and ice bags like that's what you wanted after after a game the amount of ice bags going around that utah locker room must be insane they all must be like holy shit this is a different level so i think they're just going to continue to wear them down um you know just they're not going to win the game in the first period right vegas is going to just lean on you lean on you and then boom score some goals when they need to but i thought noah hannifin was their best d the play that he made on the dow goal was unreal a lot of guys would have just grabbed that and shot it he held on to it for that extra maybe two seconds to let dow turn and puts it right on his tape and you know gets them that huge win so i i was curious as i mentioned ownership fell asleep i was like what did cooley do to doubt i'm like what happened here and finally i figured out it was just off a face off cooley you no doubt in sicko mode right now He scores an enormous goal, ends up being the game winner. He's running around their line, fourth line. They get the first, Sisson scores the first goal. He gets the winner. I mean, talk about an incredible game for the fourth line. Cole Smith, who came over from Nashville, was great. And he's screaming at Cooley, the next game I'm going to kill you. I'm going to fucking kill you. All Cooley did was just push him. It was like, I think that's when you, it's like Jordan trying to think of things to like make him even like more upset. Doubt is on tilt right now, but I think that's exactly what Torts wants. That's what Torts does to you, man. He makes you fucking crazy. He makes you salivate. I didn't have death threats game one on my bingo card, but obviously, you know, playoffs things ramp up. But my goodness, what did you make of that step? You ever give anybody a death threat? No, no, I did not. I barely, yeah, no. I was on the whip program. I wasn't touching anybody. Non-confrontational? Yeah, no. Maybe a linesman or two when they weren't dropping the puck. Well, I was going to ask Step if he'd ever had any teammates that were that crazy. Were they, who was the craziest guy who was throwing death threats out that you played with? Oh, boy, that's, I don't know. No death threats. I think I was with Carson when we scored in Philly when he gave the fan the bird right out in the glass. That's actually, there is a, yeah, there's, I played with some guys that were, they got a little, a little spooky. The wires touched and it was like, like they couldn't see anything else. They just saw red and they were, they're going out to kill somebody. Trying to think, I played with a lot of tough guys. I think Yarko Rutu was telling people like, you'll never walk again when I get you, like stuff like that. Yeah, Yarko Rutu was, he was a menace to society. That guy, talk about a playoff type player. Was it, did he mean it? Was he, was he a savage? Like, would he do dirty shit all the time? He was running. Everybody from behind. But not like anything like Matt Cook style, you know what I mean? Like a little bit more in between the lines. Step, I'm wondering, you, you've had torts and it's, it's been known and, and kind of talked about a lot that he came into Vegas and he keeps saying I'm a guidance counselor. I'm just getting these guys confident again. And they are, they, they haven't lost since he got there, but something's gone on with Carter Hart. His numbers under torts, 7-0-0, 935 save percentage, 171 goals against. He's been out of this world. Would you be able to guess anything maybe torts said to him or talk to him about to like get this impact like this early? No, but I do think like he, he has a presence about him that makes everyone around him. Like the guys work harder. And I think that the quality of chances guys are coming back, helping out. Like it, I think that it's a, they go hand in hand. Everyone's playing better. Goaltender is going to have, you know, easier nights and maybe he said something to him. I, I, he did, he usually kind of leaves the goalies alone. Like, I mean, Hank, he had Hank when I was with him. So, I mean, no one really said anything to Hank, but I think it's, I think it goes hand in hand. I think he, you know, you play to your coach's personality towards as an intense guy. I think guys, the intensity in Vegas got ramped up along with their confidence. I think he came in and just turned the volume up big time. Like, Hey, we got to go, we got to get to another level. Well, I I'm, I'm looking forward to the, to this series. I think based like that's kind of similar to Boston where they're on the road. Seems like they might've had one. I know. I think there was 14 minutes left when they tied it up. They, they got doubt, got the winner, you know, shortly after a minute later, but I think Utah is going to be, it's, it's tough. It's going to be tough for them. I'm regretting the banana hammock at this point. You are, you are, I'm still, I'm still kind of scarred from seeing you wear that banana hammock. Do you want to see it step? No, please, please. No, I'm good. I'll send you a picture after. Yeah, that's fine. I'll send you a picture. I, I, I'm guessing O'Brien comes back in the lineup, right? You need a little meet in Utah. I don't know, man. I don't know. You think so? Yeah. I don't know. Like McBain is tough. McBain will get in there, but in terms of like Vegas and their size and how physical they could be, that's, that's a, that's a big time advantage for them going, going against Utah. And I think Clayton Keller, you'll probably see more from him. Gensel. I mean, I'm not Gensel. He's Gunther was flying at the beginning. He slowed down a little bit, but a coop. I mean, step Jesus. I'm all over the place before we let you go biz. I want to start with you, but I want to hear step talk, Colorado, LA, my take, get this series over with. Yeah. Biz, you watch that game. LA was kind of hanging in there. It's poor. It's very boring. Hockey with LA. Very boring. I'll say this. I think it's the perfect series for Colorado to get their feet wet, where if they would have met a harder, better matchup with the power play, not clicking and maybe deal. I, I just, I like the matchup for them to gain their confidence and, and get things buzzing and things figured out. Like once again, like I think the power play is, is the main like issue with Colorado step. You talked about it early and often take alleviate pressure from five on five scoring. And it's not like that's something that they had an issue with in the regular season, but we all know you're facing better goaltenders, better defensive teams, better teams, five on five, and just teams who have things way more buttoned up. And I don't know from watching if what you see, like to me, they're Yan said, they're hanging on to a little bit too long, but take what you're given. They got to do the low play more and, and fucking bring it to the net. And then things will open up more up top as things did. The later the game went, they had a power play where that happened, but what are you seeing that needs to be fixed with the power play with Colorado? I, you know, it's like it, sometimes when the snowball gets wrong, rolling in your power play, just that it gets out of punk. That's why I say early and often in the playoff, you want to get that ball rolling and, and hitting on all cylinders. It's, it's always, it's not one fix on the power play. There's always multiple things that are going on. You know, you have, you need to shoot the puck more. You need to hit the net. You need, you know, it doesn't, there's not one answer for you. It needs to be fixed. And that's, it's a big piece for them and they need to find a way to get it rolling. I don't, I don't know if there, I don't understand it with, with the talent they have. I don't really get it. I'm, I'm baffled by it. But yeah, it's a big, it's a big part of them moving forward is, is you can't, can't win unless you're scoring power play goals. Nikisha not being on our, our Natchushkin. I keep saying Nikisha when I think of Natchushkin. Well, that's Carolina's on your mind. Yeah. Well, that's cause trip just signed in. I could see him in the background here. Yeah. It's why isn't, why isn't Natchushkin on the power play? Yeah. Good question. I mean, such a big body. I would have, I'm out there just taking up space in front of the net, even getting pucks off the wall. But I don't know. How do you, the five guys that they have out there are all willing guys that could, could be on the power play. But my biggest thing is, is the shots. They're not taking the shots that they need and then nothing's opening up. But when, when you're not scoring on the power play and you're not getting momentum, like that next few shifts, it's, it's a buzzkill for everybody else. Cause everyone's like, Oh Jesus, we're not going to score on this power play. And you see it in their group where it's like, it takes them two or three, three shifts to get it going again to where they're back to their normal, normal ways of playing fast. So they'll, they'll get through this series. I think pretty easily not scoring on the power play or having troubles, but you're thinking Stanley cup, you have to figure this thing out and you can't be, you know, hoping to get power play goals and stuff like that. Like those guys got to go out there and get it. And you know, Nate, like he's a complete animal, like he's going to be doing whatever he can. And I think they can turn it around. Obviously if you're LA, you got to stay out of the box and hopefully they, they don't get hot, but I think it's something, if they're going to go on and win the Stanley cup, they really, really need to figure this thing out quickly. And that team. And you mentioned Nate, like there's just no way that now I'm not, I don't want to say awkward, but there's definitely tension there, right? Like every game that goes on that they don't score, like it's just five unreal players. So then you're starting to just feel the heat a little bit more. And I do wonder if they try switching up. I think Landis Cog was in front and then Cadre's on one of the flanks. Maybe Natchushkin, goes in front. Cadre could stay on a flank. Even he could go in front at one point, but it is so bizarre to have those guys and, and, and not, or was it, was it not? Is Nelson not even on the first unit? I don't know. He's not. No, they have so many weapons that maybe you, maybe you just look at switching it all up and just having my car and Nate be the guys that are out there the entire two minutes. But I did love from Colorado, a Kempe, who is just a playoff gamer. That's one guy. I don't mind watching on LA. He's funny. He's fun to watch. He's fast. He's skilled. He was going after my car. And then who comes out and just like Landis Cog. He just, he goes right at Kempe. You kind of reminded it, like how close this group is, what Landis Cog means to them. And they've won it before and they just stick together. But you see Kemp. He's trying to get something going for LA. Panarin scores a goal. He probably didn't look his best. Pasha's all over. I'm saying he's a perimeter player. Can't do anything in the playoffs. Once again, Pasha, just, just a complete, complete Muppet, but I don't see LA. Maybe they get a game. Maybe. I think that series is over in five. And you're right, biz. That probably could help Colorado get, get a little bit of rest. There's a little time to figure things out. I don't, I don't think they got a chicken, chicken Dick's chance to, to, to win the series. Just shocking. Colorado 27th on the power play this year. The only good thing about playing against LA, as I believe LA was like, like third worst PK in the league. league, but now saying that they looked a lot better on the penalty kill uh pressuring we talked about how defensively Philadelphia was pressuring I mentioned actually um I'm not just saying this because Tripp's on here Carolina when they pressure they they all go right it's all all one there's not like a delay there so LA was doing a good job of that and that's why it was a tight game but uh I don't think this one's going longer than five and it's nothing to do with LA like they're working hard they're playing hard for each other they're just outclassed in this series it's got yeah yeah and and I couldn't believe I didn't I had no idea 41 now 42 and 0 Colorado this year leading going into the third period wow that's wild um that's just a team that just knows exactly what it takes to finish off games and quickly the no goal okay I tweeted out originally I said oh Doughty just buries into Jack Drury and then I watched it again I listened to Ed's out nope Drury he skates into Doughty right that's on him he ends up falling down goalie interference I thought that that goal should have you know been a goal or the no goal should have been a goal but I took it back right away I think they got that call correct so the league is one for one on goaltender interference calls in the playoffs no disaster yet we're kind of like bated breath here waiting for something and something ridiculous to happen around the crease to really affect the game but Colorado's a wagon we'll see what happens in that series step step thanks buddy thanks dude thanks for having me and make sure you tell trip right say hi okay we will trip's the best he's about to give it give it to me I think because uh trip put his dog on the line I put his freaking dog on the line step he is coming out put his freaking dog in line so thank you very much Derek step on before we get over to trip Tracy our guy 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yeah that trip is frank frank is trip it's the same thing and no i meant the teams you idiot oh all right buddy buddy you don't think people are gonna understand that you're gonna understand it's the ottawa senators the carolina hurricanes are gonna be done if they lose everyone will know why would he be painted like a carolina hurricane he's painted like a senator and trip i know you love you love the canes you always have always will but i thought that bet i i was like man we'll see how much he believes in this team because that's his that's his dog man that's frank he's always with you on all your walks you send us videos you didn't blink an eye at making that bet and then in game one man i i kind of realized why suffocating jordan stall who i believe kachuk kind of called him out i think kachuk was asking for that fight correct me if i'm wrong they looked exactly like i was afraid they'd look you just can't get anything against them well just a little of uh land the plane uh quickly background uh with your legend you know we were leaving from long island on tuesday night last game of the regular season and before we took off i saw your predictions and i've always been afforded all these years decades in carolina i can move freely about the plane so i saw it i i said wow this is the ammunition jordan stall was sitting about five rows in front of me once we get airborne to go up and make because he's not on social media to make sure that he's aware that you picked ottawa and as soon as we got to our cruising altitude i sat next to him and he said trip i love wit i love biz i love playing with them both but thank you for telling me that and trip you're a nice guy for not you're a nice guy because you really you kind of buried the lead here the lead being that when i went over this series i mentioned uh i mentioned a lack of center depth and i talked about cockney and emmy being the third line center for the carolina hurricanes he's not the third line center um he hasn't done that in quite a while and it's jordan stall who i actually played with hurricanes for the third line center for the carolina hurricanes he's not the third line center lit me up like a christmas tree deservingly so completely forgot a guy who's won a stanley cup captain unreal defensive center that's on me another ownership that's what i do on this show i take ownership unlike some other guys unlike some other guys so what do you mean other guy who say well i believe that you you didn't know that uh the la king's goalie was forrestberg um but well darcy kepper played 50 games this year i understand but as jordan stalls won a fucking stanley cup and he's been their fucking third line center see lack of ownership trip see lack of ownership a acceptance is the key to all things and i can tell you wit you legend even though we're adversaries right now i love you to the ends of the earth what happened was i talked to both jordan and henry stall this morning and just a little background before jordan even made the penguins at the igloo henry stall immediate chemistry and love for what he's doing and what he's doing and what he's doing and what he's doing and and he's listening to the show on a ford pickup truck driving to connecticut henry and linda stall and he's blown away that you picked against his son but he said you know going into that opening face off that jordo son of a sod farmer said hey brady and i are going to go at some point in this series we might as well go now okay okay holy shit all right breaking news breaking news breaking news breaking news and carolina um i i you know we've talked a lot about them not having a superstar that's my words that's my words and the canes fans out there say we don't need one we got ajo we got svetchnikov we got slave and we have enough here but stankhoven in the first game that's a guy who holy shit he came ready to play they looked unreal i just don't understand why and i think auto has got way more i don't think this series is over by a long shot but no why is it so hard for teams to like play against carolina like what how were they so suffocating and i've it's funny because islanders fans and devils fans they're they're telling senators fans online get used to this this is exactly what we dealt with it's the same exact script over and over again wick can i just start by saying ottawa is an extremely good team like it's it's probably in in all my time in carolina in a lot of ways it reminds me of the supreme respect i had for montreal in the first round when carolina ended up winning the cup and they went down to nothing to montreal and if not montreal 2002 they played new jersey who i thought was the best team in the eastern conference and they rotated between arthur and kevin weeks to beat that devil's team in six this ottawa team is legit and they played a heck of a road game in game one the best line for carolina up front bar none since the end of the season man coven jackson blake and taylor hall period and for me if they keep going tonight in game two, I think it creates a decision for Travis Green. He doesn't have last change on the road, so he doesn't control the matchups the way he will up in Ottawa starting Thursday night. But if that Stan Colvin line is going again tonight, I think Travis Green, with regards to his matchups, his top defensive pairing, Zub did not skate this morning. We'll see where that goes. That's a big loss, in my opinion. I have a lot of respect for Artem Zub, but if Stan Colvin's line keeps going, do you pivot? Or do you continue to have your top priority being the Ajo line? And the Ajo line, if Carolina's going to extend this thing to 2-0 tonight, I thought Svechnikov was great in game one. Discipline, physical, eight hits, but I think there's more there for Sebastian Ajo and Jarvis was great defensively towards the end. But if Carolina extends this thing to 2-0, I have to think the Ajo line is on the score sheet. But you're creating a decision for Travis Green if the Stan Colvin line keeps going like they are. With regards to, what's your top priority with your matchups? Anderson, especially on the penalty kill, had a couple huge, huge 10-bell saves. When did you realize that he was going to be the starter? I wanted to see him make the argument, Biz, because there's no substitute for experience. I mean, his numbers, wins, save percentage in first rounds as a hurricane has been off the charts. You know, Bussey has been a phenomenal story. He beat Ottawa twice and was the better goalie in two wins against Ottawa during the regular season. But I wanted to see Anderson make the argument that you start with him because it's favorable to start with the experienced guy. For me, with conviction on a variety of different fronts. Going back to the Stanley Cup year, you started with Martin Gerber and then that puts Cam Ward coming in second in a great spot. You know, but the last road trip of the season, I needed to see Freddie make the argument, Biz. I needed him to say, this is my crease. You're going to have to drag me away from it. And his starts in Chicago and then Utah, he made the argument. You know, and I look at that huge save with his glove. You know, it's ever so close to was it in or was it not in. But the mechanics of it, Biz, what I liked is his glove. Number one, I love the fact that it's a white glove that made you be able to identify where the puck is better than, say, a black glove. But in desperation, his glove was up against the post and what that does is that creates strength. So the puck, the velocity of the puck can't push that glove back. You can combat the momentum of the puck and that could have been the difference on that goal. His puck handling for me is a difference-making facet against a great four-checking team like Ottawa and now he's just got to validate it again tonight. But I wanted to see him make the argument that it was his crease to start because I think that's favorable for the entire position when you think about hopefully excellent Ottawa team but having a significant playoff run. Tripp, how big of a psyche is it for Carolina even fans and the players to not have Florida in this playoffs this year? Just like going in not knowing you're going to have to play them at some point. It's kind of been their crypt the night the last few years. But just like as a morale boost for that group, it must feel good. Yeah, it's the great Florida Panther you were. They played Carolina. No, as a matter of fact, I was talking to Barky about you this morning because Barky, I actually he is one of my most real friends in life and he has been a real friend when it's mattered most. I spoke to him about the Selke Trophy and what he thinks the criteria should be last week because I think Jordan Stahl has made a heck of an argument depending on how you define the trophy and Barky had some unbelievable things to say about Jordan Stahl why he's the toughest centerman for him to play against. But Carolina played Florida for the last time in the season series in January. Florida didn't have their lineup. We all get that. But the open of our broadcast, my partner Mike Maniscalco said, what's on the line tonight? And I just said, hey, Hurricanes fans, you huge Caniacs, do you want to see Florida in the playoffs? Do you? And if your answer is no, this is your last time to impact that conversation. Your last time. That was the end of the season series and Carolina had a cathartic win and, you know, beat Florida 9-1. I know Florida didn't have their lineup. They didn't have their lineup and they didn't have big Barky all year. But in terms of being tougher to play against, something they've lacked in the two conference finals against Florida, they impacted their last ability to control Florida being in the playoffs with, I thought, a significantly big win in January. Whit didn't mention that Taylor Hall also reached out to him. I said last episode. No, but I'm saying it's a trip. Halsey, I can't tell you how much I've enjoyed him as a Hurricane. He's an old schooler. You know, I think of Jordan Mardinuk, you know, these guys that you know, they're throwbacks. They give you everything they've got. And, you know, you know, Busy, you know, you know how much I love my dog walks. And I know, you know, what a great friend, you know, 99 is of yours. And he's a doodle lover. And so he'd be pulling for the great Frank. This series. But, you know, the hot stoves, the hot stoves never get old with Wayne. You know, it's Wayne Gretzky. And he called me last week when I was walking Frank. And one of the things that I said to him is I said, wait, no, how good has Taylor Hall been for Carolina? And Wayne said, you know, he's a great one for a reason. He said, you know, trip Carolina system is perfect for Taylor Hall. He doesn't have to sit back and trap. He can go after it. And, you know, it embodies bringing out his best. And Halsey texted me maybe a month ago on a Saturday morning. And he said, you know, trip, this is with no disrespect to any other great teams that I played for. But I feel like I should have been a hurricane several years ago. He had a full season under his belt that he didn't have after that trade last year. He has been terrific. And what I loved most about Stan Coven's goal, the all-important first goal of the game on Saturday, if you look at it, Nikitian was great and holds that puck in at the Ottawa blue line. But if you look at the Telestrator look, Stan Coven, who scores it, and Taylor Hall, there was no cheat. If Nikitian got caught, they were ready to reload with speed through the neutral zone. And that just gets, honestly, that gets my juices flowing when I see no cheat to create offense. And Taylor Hall has epitomized that, in my opinion. So this, yeah, this is a series where, you know, you have some regrets after you see game one. I'm like, uh-oh. Um, Ehlers didn't score. Jarvis didn't score. Svetchnikov didn't score. Ajo didn't score. It's like, uh. And then I look at the D. Because you mentioned Zub. He only played seven minutes. The 5-6 there, they barely played. So then Ottawa's got four guys they're playing. Then you look at Carolina. It's even. It's six guys all within, like, two minutes of each other, almost. And the one guy that, talk about playoffs, like, you're waiting for that in terms of being a player that just kind of lives for the, when the games get harder. That Chatfield, I mean, we saw him almost kill a guy last year. He's a, he, he's a pain in the ass to play against. He's a mean bastard. He can skate. And then you add that with everything else they got. Nikitian's a year older. It's just, it's a well-rounded group on the back end. Yeah, there's a couple things there with, uh, you know, I've been looking at ice time in game one. And, you know, Travis, he really leaned on his bill. I mean, you lawsuit, but look at the minutes of Sanderson. Look at the minutes of Shabbat. Even up front, look at the minutes of Stutzla. Now, Ottawa does get two days off after this game, you know, which is the only, I think, two-day break in the series. But my hope is the fact that Carolina balances their ice time, even in the first round when players are fresh, will pay dividends, you know, if the series were to go deep. And, um, Chatfield, you know, you just look no further. I mean, Florida, for all the right reasons, and then some are the two-time defending Stanley Cup champions. But when you lose two righties on your back end in the conference final against the Panthers and Chatfield and Walker, you got no chance. And so they're both healthy for now. And I thought Nikishin, who I think is going to be an absolute stud, but you need him to take major steps right now. I thought he was terrific in game one. He holds the blue line, really makes the play on the first goal. I like it better at this stage of his career. I'd love to get Janz's thoughts on this when he plays his natural side, put Ghost on his offside, Lefty playing the right side, I think he plays it well. Makes that play at the offensive blue line on the first goal. And then the second goal, for me, you legends, when I look at tonight, Allmark, very good in game one. Shoot at his elbow on the glove side. Don't shoot at the glove. Look at where Nikishin shot on the second goal. He has a tendency to reach a little bit. And if you reach, you can't recover if you shoot right at that elbow. And he got his spare phenomenal save on the five-on-three in the second period. It was right at the glove. He's firing away like Nikishin did on that elbow. It's a well-balanced blue line. And I do have a message from Nikishin, because the last time I was on with you greats, it was in Vegas. And Witt, you said it right. Tripp, get out of here. Let's get Nikishin to stick around. And he said to tell you guys a big hello from him, but he couldn't stop by today because they lost that game in Vegas. Okay, superstitious. He's superstitious. I just think this Nikishin wants the moment. I think he does. guys um i fucking can't believe that like philly got rid of goss despair he went to arizona was unbelievable they let him go i think he was off to detroit they let him go detroit too he was and then and i think he's this is second stint in carolina like he is so dynamic the way that he skates like i think his defending is very underrated i think like man on man's probably perfect for him because of the way he's able to skate and maneuver out there like he's a special player just gonna spew facts we were in vegas at the trade deadline and we went to arizona to play a game in tempe and that's where he came to carolina against the coyotes for his first game as a hurricane he was my bench interview and at that point i i said to myself just speaking truth can you win a stanley cup with shane goss despair aside from his offensive gifts defensively on your third pair and he played really well but then he goes to detroit and he comes back and i thought it really started in game five of the second round nikishin was playing his first ever nhl game in a game five of the second round of the playoffs and ghost played his offside and he maybe played the best defensive game i've ever seen him play in the nhl his numbers were about a point a game this year had a couple of injuries at different points of the season but i have truly earnestly and honestly never seen him impactfully impact the game defensively and i think that's a really good game defensively like he has this year and so that initial question my first bench interview with him in tempe i have less than zero doubt that you can win with him not only can you win with him defensively you can excel with him defensively and and he's earned every bit of that um just get this i want to talk about rollback real quick last question with rollback use code chicklets on rollback.com for generous 20 off your first purchase at the end of the week c-h-i-c-l-e-t-s on r-h-o-b-a-c-k.com 20 off polos hoodies joggers everything trip will we see bussy play in this series how are they going to approach having a year full of back and forth and bussy being so good and then anderson gets the shutout i think it was his seventh career playoff shutout too um what do you think they do moving forward with the goalie rotation you know i when i i'll admit i was thinking about this this morning because i try to be total in every moment i used to hate the phrase one day at a time but now i try to live it but i'm looking at the schedule and after tonight you know you get two days off off but then you play thursday night and saturday afternoon so in my opinion you know thinking about just how on earth do you extend this thing to two nothing tonight against an outstanding ottawa team but that's a pretty tight turnaround games three and four thursday night saturday afternoon bussy beat ottawa twice in this regular season and he was a difference making goaltender to the positive in both games so for me not knowing how it's going to go between now and later this week i would be looking to get bussy in one of those two games three or four trip i know i know you're a big homer but what can the people of ottawa what can they do what can the senators do to you know make it a better game for the game to win a couple games in this series because like you said during the regular season they're a great team they play a little bit like the hurricane so like what could they do to come out and get a win out here yes i like their game in game one i did i mean especially the first period i mean it was incredibly physical you know the hurricanes are a shot volume team they barely gave up any shots i personally think against lenis allmark i don't want him to be a shot volume team because i've looked at his numbers when he gives up less than when he sees less than 25 shots he isn't very he doesn't have a lot of time to play he doesn't have a lot of time to play he doesn't he doesn't have a lot of time to play he doesn't have a lot of time to play he doesn't have a lot of that's not when he's at his best so in this particular series i wouldn't mind seeing him see less work i thought i mean ottawa has as good of a four check as there is in the nhl keith and i i just didn't think they did a good enough job in game one holding on to pucks to really let that four check go to work i thought they played a good road game but that's one area i heard tim stewart talk about it yesterday that you know they didn't whether it was execution or they didn't value ozone time enough i have a supreme respect for this team i thought batherson was quite good in game one um their power play was junk early but you know it was really good in the third period i think also too because ottawa is a premier elite face-off team yans carolina seemed to win on the ottawa power plays the first penalty killing face-off all afternoon saturday and i think that sets the stage for whether the power play is going to be really good for ottawa or if carolina is going to win that first game or not i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know sequentially that just sets everything up to deny entry you know carolina can do a better job killing or clearing puck shorthanded but it would be being able to get to their floor check value offensive zone time and winning that initial power play face-off to to see uh improvement in their power play that was very good in the regular season i'll answer that too yans that that pinto line was brutal asking yeah if they want to win any games they got to be a lot better amadio pinto i forget who was on the other side was it greg it might have been greg but might have been greg they that clevin is good i don't know if he comes back in and then jensen had knee surgery i think it was six weeks like four weeks ago that's two big losses especially if zoob is out so it's like it's the lack of depth on d right now which they've been battling the anderson injury the shabbat injury they're i mean anderson sanderson injury shabbat injury they're back but you know they're banged up that's a tough part of the game i think it's going to be a tough part of the game with a quick carolina team of just not having a lot of d like that's what they need but trip i i think it's going to be a series if they lose tonight they're in one i know they were down three oh last year to toronto and lost in one two games but sweep these fucks because then then toronto we remain the kings of ontario wit hates the fact that i say that but if you get fucking swept in the first round and in a year leaf then make the first round and make playoffs it doesn't mean shit we're still the kings of ontario boys i love you legends and by the way a quick mention derrick step in you know one of the first round wins for carolina game six on long island he kept a puck in and then paul stastny from a sharp end angle ended that series by the way paul stastny told me back in october in october the day that i died stopped by with nikishan and joined your show he told me in october having played with eelers in winnipeg that the best fit for him would be jordan stall and jordan martin that's the intellect of paul stastny and then finally is thanks for having me on boys thanks for the reese's promotion because i don't know i had a big reese's flub a few years ago i didn't say peanut butter cups oh god everything happens for reese's but not if you're not mentioning peanut butter cups so trip what's your dog's name again they're great frank named after sinatra we get one more cameo on the way out frank where are you you legend come here big guy he's hiding from he's gonna try to take him on another nine mile hike through the woods oh your ears you legends he's a cute dog i have a feeling that frank will will will not be getting painted guys and um i might be ringing that bell in carolina and that there'll be booze ripping down on me i'm just getting tortured by every fan base but trip is that a labradoodle buddy it's a labradoodle biz thank you boys i love you see you later boys that about wraps up what's happened so far but there's one series that hasn't started guys and i feel so alive there's a spring tradition in my house of when the edmonton oilers play really yeah you know what it is kids be quiet dad's taking a pre-game nap no way you get the pre-game buddy let me tell you the nhl puts 10 o'clock eastern for all these oilers games sometimes 10 30 and they never start they always start at 10 25 or 10 50 so for me to be on my game with intermission spaces on twitter with post-game breakdowns three in the morning overtime games i need to be ready and that that for me to be ready it's a pre-game meal where i don't cook i don't cook i'm not ruining the lasagna i'm getting my pasta i'm getting my chicken i'm getting my nap and if anyone in this house makes any goddamn noise there's gonna be a lot of fucking problems let me tell you that because the oilers are back in the playoffs in the city of edmonton they saw dickinson skating looking great apparently dry sidle is fucking flying around now i haven't seen the lineup yet but we could have a fully healthy edmonton oilers team ready to go and heartbreak after heartbreak and runs to the finals an incredible performance i the greatest player i've ever seen this is it boys this is our year you know what else i love not one fan out there no one besides oilers fans has said it's our year you got no gold penny you got no depth you got rid of mcleod and broberg and holloway all great players but we have conor mcdavid the greatest player i've ever seen and we have leon dry sidle who's also top five players i've ever seen they do it in the playoffs like no one else everyone has superstars who don't show up guys get better our guys are better in the playoffs than we are in the regular season we got matthias at coleman bouchard playing together maybe the best pair in the league you want to talk quinn hughes brock faber awesome players you talk about evan bouchard what do people say about evan bouchard sometimes he looks drunk out there but And Grinnell, he calls him Bacardi Boosh. You know what else he does? He lights it up in the playoffs. A point per game pace just behind Bobby Orr, Biz. You ever heard of fucking Bobby Orr? Bobby Orr won a couple Stanley Cups, and so will Evan Bouchard. And then the McLeod trade. Yeah, he looks great in Buffalo. He flies. Well, there's this kid, Matthew Savoy. I don't know if you guys have heard of him, Biz. I don't know if you've ever seen the Oilers play this year. Well, he's playing with Connor McDavid and Zach Hyman, and he looks phenomenal. He's a sniper. He can skate. And the city of Edmonton, guys, you could talk about Buffalo. You could talk about all these different cities. Nothing is like the city of Edmonton in another run to the Cup Finals. And I don't care about Anaheim. I played for Anaheim for three minutes. I'll tell you right now, Ducks fans, you might as well not even watch. You might as well not even watch the fucking games. I'm telling you. Like, against LA, I was like, all right, maybe one of these years they'll get us. This series, if the Ducks win this series, I'll never root for the Oilers again. I'll wear Ducks jerseys. I'll have a Ducks hat on the rest of the summer. I'm that confident that they have no chance against the Oilers. Maybe it goes to six games. Will you only speak quack for a month? I'll have to get ten different quacks into every episode at random times. And when you call me, I can then have to, like, just start quacking at my family. Like, we'll have to think of something. I like Anaheim's future, man. I made a bet against Idiot Pasha. They'll win a cup before. The Devils do. That's how confident I am in their future. But we are not in the future. We are in today. As Tripp said, live for the moments, man. Don't worry about tomorrow. Live for today. And I'm living for game one in Edmonton where the Oilers will show that the entire league has underestimated them. And, of course, we will win a Stanley Cup on a year where everyone's like, this team sucks. They're in the worst division in hockey. They could miss the playoffs. Don't worry. Because everything's coming together at the perfect time. And we have a wagon. And everyone knows it. And, Dwayne. Dwayne Rolison. The last cup final. Liquid Duano? Hey. There weren't expectations. Crazy expectations. Liquid Duano. This Ingram, boys. He's battled. He finally got his face mask painted. I think it's still white. But he's got some oiler stuff on there. We needed that to happen. I can't wait to get going. I am so excited. What? What a rant. That was incredible. You must have just got off. Playoff hockey. And all you losers out there. I'm looking at you. I'm looking at Grinelli. Keith, yeah. Panthers. Panthers have run our show. And they've beaten everyone. All you losers talking about your playoff runs. Try being an Oilers fan. Staying up until 2.30 every other night for four months. And watching your team just dominate through the West. Only to get their souls ripped out in the cup finals. Not this year. It's all different. And it starts tonight. I think R.A.'s here. Why don't you bring this guy in? He's got to have some thoughts on his Bruins collapsing. Talk about a fucking franchise who can't get anything done. You should try being an Oilers fan, R.A. Where is he? Bring R.A. in. Hello, everybody. Welcome to R.A.'s World here on the Live Spittin' Chick. It's a little shaky today. A tough loss for your boy last night. Bruins just had it. It was like Bueller, Bald Bricker, and Porky's Keith. I had it right there in my hand. And it slipped away. I don't know how Barco Strum doesn't call a timeout when they tie the game 2-2. I got flashbacks to Game 6. Good point, R.A. Game 6, 2013 Cup. I got mad flashbacks when Khloé didn't do the same thing. And I don't know. It happens a lot. Coaches in hockey leave these on the board all the time. You can't save it for overtime, which they didn't even get to. I don't know if it would have made a difference. Might have just calmed them down. Maybe taken a smidge of the momentum away. But, yeah, it was a tough one. I don't know if it's one of those, oh, they're done from here. Obviously, Buffalo's stacked. But I think regroup. And if they come home tied 1-1, you know, it's a new day. I mean, it's obviously the pause. Sway and pray, R.A. Sway and pray, brother. And perfect example of that model last night. I mean, he was outstanding. I mean, I don't know how many huge game-saving saves he made. And shout-out to UPL down the other one, too. He was great. I mean, he made big saves when he had the two past-the-nock breakaways. And, you know, Buffalo team as well coming back. I'm not saying the Bruins, you know, all choked Buffalo. You know, they got the momentum. Four goals in, what, eight minutes. And the Tate Thompson, what more can you say about him? First playoff game, absolute superstar performance. But, you know, go back to the drawing board. I think, ultimately, the scoreboard, the way it happened, you just got to wash it away. And, you know, the Bruins don't have a ton of experience as well. I don't know if there's any lineup changes they need to make. I know Peek's been getting dumped on. But if I was looking, I mean, the other, Jokey Haru and Harris, neither one of those guys have had a playoff game. So, it's not like you're bringing any experience. I don't think any forwards really need to maybe come out of the lineup. Like, Esamon has, like, I think, eight career playoff games. Reichel, Steve's none. So, you know, it's not like you're bringing in a veteran or whatever. So, I don't know. We'll see what happens. Any questions from the audience? Pretty good fucking rant, R.A. That's good, too. Good follow-up from Whit there. I think a lot of coaches keep their time out for the challenge reason. But in overtime, every goal is looked at, right? That's why Marty St. Louis used his time out because he knew if they did, if something was going to be challenged, it's automatically reviewed by the league. So, I agree with you 100%. Sturm should have taken that time out just to settle. Even though the crowd would have been into it, you're on the road, the crowd would have been humming the whole time. But you still, you've got to get your group and settle them down because they, at that point, their D had completely lost their minds. They didn't know what the hell was going on. So, yeah, it would have been the right time to call that time out. And you look at a coach like Marty who made the call to get a time out and they won that game. Did Sturm get asked about it after? I'm not sure. I saw a little bit of the press conference online. He did. He said, we're bigger, we're stronger. We're going to fucking dominate them. Yeah. It was like they were playing not to lose, you know, and that's not the way you win in the playoffs. It was a rope-a-dope effort that didn't work. Yeah, but Sturm was asked about it. He said, I thought we were in the perfect spot, exactly where we wanted to play, being in that position with five or six minutes left in the game. You can tell we got a little bit frustrated and we made pretty much two mistakes to let them tie up the game. So, very unfortunate that my guys played so well. The perfect spot. It was 112 on the decibel. Two mistakes. It was like two mistakes per shift for like the last frigging half of the third period. The mental errors, that's what killed them. And that was sort of one of my fears. Going into the series. Because, you know, they had a shitload of them in the last, you know, month and a half of the season. I attributed that to the condensed schedule, but it was ugly. You know, icings they don't need to take. I know Zdorov had a bad one you mentioned earlier with, and they scored off that. It was just preventable stuff. And hopefully they can clean it up. And, you know, you know, I'll also too, I mean, Sturm's first game as a coach on the playoffs. And, you know, I looked at, what's his name? Ruff's got 24 more years coaching him. So that's a huge imbalance right there. But I don't, I don't think it's something that they can't overcome. Also, you know, Arvidsson, Kostad, Zaka combined minus nine with one assist. They got dummied like big time last night. So, I mean, again, I don't think you got to be deep to make wholesale changes, but they got to maybe a little tinkering in real time. But I don't, I don't have a ton of confidence right now, but again, they come home 1-1. As ugly as it was, they can still be tied coming home. R.A., you got to have a little confidence with just the way that Swayman played, right? I know the way that the game ended, the Bruins fans are probably up in arms, but if you really look at that game and look at the way Swayman played, you got to just think, okay, if he can play like that the next game, we have another chance to win and just hope he does. Yeah. Yeah, legit sway and pray. But I mean, and all right, a positive spin. This could be maybe a good thing because it's such an awful way to lose like in such quick fashion that maybe like the sour taste of mouth, like we can't let this happen again. You know, again, being a fan here that, you know, it could be a lesson in it. You know, bad losses give you some sort of lessons, but yeah. I mean, Swayman's going to be the reason they continue to go on. What do you got there? Swayman's not playing next game. Sturm just tweeted out. They're going with Corby. No shit. Sturm's got 20? That sucks. Corpo Salo. See if you can handle the heat in there. Give me another thing from the first seven games that maybe caught your eye. Oh, dude. Locked in all weekend. I think the battle of Pennsylvania. Well, if it wasn't the best game so far, it was the second best. Obviously the overtime with Tampa Bay and the Hazards. That game was fantastic. I know there wasn't a ton of shots, but I was down to the tab and watch. I think I scared the shit out of some broads next to me. That's Sanheim goal. I yelled, shoot it! And they all startled the ball when he scored the event. Before he made the move or after he made the move? As he was in the middle of it. I just screamed, shoot it. It's a good question. Not like on the power play. That was an unreal goal. And then Marton. I mean, that thing was like the biggest slow motion 360 you've ever seen in your life. Scored that, bowed down, and I was like, Marton, Maron, whatever. That was some good shit. What else? Oh, the Habs, man. They were getting nine shots they had after two periods. Still tied. Three for five on the power play. You know, Tampa was the most penalized team during the regular season. But Vassie, man, 15-star saves on 19 shots. He's got to be better there. I don't know if this is just a career thing or if he just had a bad game. But, I mean, I think I'm the only one on the board who picked Montreal. Is that correct? No, I did. And I did as well. Oh, you did, Biz? I picked Montreal in seven games. Okay, I'm sorry about that. We didn't mention, actually, the Marton goal. It was tough because it was Achari defending him. And then you're like, oh, fuck. If that's Eric Carlson, like a little more fleet of foot, who knows? But, yeah. It was a big, like, reverse. And he gets the crossovers going. But the release was crazy. Yeah, that was. And what else did you just mention? Oh, yeah. Montreal. We didn't even really bring up Dobish. Dobish. Yeah. I mean, who could. I mean, the fact he's a rookie is crazy. They got two rookie goalies. And he's the one they go with. He was excellent. I mean, he didn't get a ton of shots. But, yeah, that Montreal team scares the shit out of me. How about that Slavkoski, huh? I'll wait. Yeah. I already. Yeah, he already ate that. I already ate that one. I'm eating Nell's left and right standard. I haven't seen many put a beating on something like that since I was up there for the winter classic and this Saturday game, I couldn't believe I was shocked. I mean, you know, obviously after last year, he's got to say, I don't have a little bit of a comeback, but what do you have? Uh, numbers somewhere. Yeah. Basically 23 saves on 28 shots. That's just not good. A couple of bad goals there. So, I mean, we'll see what Dallas has made a man. Cause teams that go down to Oh two, they got a third, 12, 13% chance of winning the series. So, uh, and it's probably less if you lose the two home games. Yeah. Well, cause, uh, I think, yeah, when we bought the Bruins of that, they lost the first one, Vancouver. That's back in 2011. I know we were just talking about the East with Dober. I think that like five of the eight goalies in the West are, are all starting their first playoff games. Like Wedgwood, Wedgwood was crazy off game. Uh, Forsberg started his first playoff game. Um, Wall Street, those stalls going to be for Anaheim. Um, Ingram will Ingram. Well, that's for Wall Street for around Minnesota. We'll start for Minnesota five. Did you see that? Uh, uh, Bednar didn't even know, like when the media told him after he's like, that was his first playoff game. Yeah. Which is kind of shocking though. Cause he's been around a while. Like he started, he actually started in New Jersey with, uh, Blackwood. Like they were the tandem there. And then obviously he was in, uh, I thought maybe they made the bubble when he was in Arizona, like when he was there, but, uh, he's bounced around quite a bit. He was in, in, in Dallas as well. So, uh, Wedgwood was, I wasn't that shocked that he was named starter given his regular season. Like people seem to be more shocked that it was him than Blackwood, but his numbers were better. Yeah. Like noticeably better too. Did you, did you listen to his post game? No, he's an interesting guy. He's got like a book that he, he, he carries around and it's got all these guys tendencies and like, just like basically the way that they set up their release and how they shoot. And Oh yeah. He's studying. He's in the lab cooking. Okay. At Wedgwood. He's an interesting cat. Wedgie. A couple more. I think, I think, I mean, the Sends and Kings both lost, but I thought they both hung in each game respectively. They certainly weren't, neither team was dominated. I know nobody's given either a chance, but I wouldn't be surprised to see either one of those teams bounce back with a W next game. A fantastic opening, uh, Kachuk and Stahl beefing right from the outset. That's always good shit. But yeah, I don't know. I thought, I mean, Freddie was outstanding, a shout out 22 saves, but I mean, Ottawa, I don't know if they were in that game the whole time. LA was in that game the whole time. They're giving them no chance, but I would be surprised to see those things go the distance. If not six games, what would you guys peg is an absolute guarantee that a team responds with a win after a first game loss. Oh, I like that question. It's gotta be Dallas for me. It has to be Dallas, especially at home. I would put Pittsburgh more than Dallas. Oh yeah. Good point. I agree. No hints thing is terrifying. I I'm kind of with you biz. Although I think I'm leaning based on Coop's comments. I think Tampa, I think Tampa, but evens that thing up. I mean, that'd be, that'd be surprising if they lose the first two at home. But like we said, Vasilevsky, can he mix in a save here or there? They got to stay out of the box. Obviously. I didn't know they were the most penalized team. All right. That's a good little nugget. I thought Boston was Boston was number two. Yeah, they were right up there. I know we got a big one tonight. Edmonton Anaheim. It's another team. I feel like nobody's given Anaheim a shot here. I don't know why, but I got it. I said the other day, I think Anaheim and, and six, I think there's a disparity in goaltending there. Yeah. I just don't see why Edmonton's such a big favorite. I think it's much closer to a pick them, but see what happens. How, how the fuck do you think it's a pick them? No, I said closer to a pick them than nine 11, which was a minus two 20. That's the old fashioned line. I mean, minus two 20. That's I would think. No, that's, that's too much, but minus one 75. I'm more with, I just, the experience McDavid. Yeah. Connor McDavid. Yeah, I know. I know. Yeah. But I don't, Anaheim just all had a great regular season. Some great young forwards. I just, I think it's going to be a much better series. I don't think anyone's going to win that in five or six on my rant. I did forget. And I think I mentioned this already, but I'll bring it up again. Dostal, very scary. Cut a goat. The eight could score. There's some scary aspects to that team. None, none more than the butcher. And if Gudis takes out one of those fucking guys knees, he won't make it out of Edmonton. I'm telling you, you think that the Sabres fans, Bertuzzi and UFC dummies are bad. If Gudis takes a knee out in this series, there's going to be hell to pay. I'm telling you that right now, Biz, you could shake your head all you want. No, no. I'm saying fucking send Stoff down to the tunnel, down to the bowels. Stoff could get arrested if Gudis takes a knee out. Steve Buscemi, like fucking checking. Yeah, no, I wasn't, I was agreeing with you where like, I would not want to see that. I, hey guys, I would, I would give my pinky. I said this in the group, text pinkies off to see Edmonton Buffalo in the final, but my heart lies with Connor McDavid. I need to see Connor win the big one. I do. All right. So you're on the bandwagon here. I'm going to take off the crown. When I'm going to give it to you. Well, I printed out the NHL bracket challenge for the family. Why it picked the flyers to win the Stanley cup because he loves the devils because he loves the devils. Cause Jack Hughes and late in the year when Jersey had nothing to play for Philly, he won four to one. So in his mind, flyers up. Um, okay. Good rider has Montreal winning the Stanley cup, uh, because Billy Ryan's son, Teddy, him and Teddy are very close. So that's the Canadians aspect. Bree has the hurricanes over the Oilers. And when she filled out the bracket, she wrote, sorry, McDavid loses again, like Carolina Stanley cup over Edmonton papers. And I, uh, and I picked Edmonton. So that's the Whitney family bracket. Um, Buffalo Edmonton. Oh my God. Yeah. I'm just very excited that we're back. And, and, and like Steppen said, like if you're not watching the playoffs, I know everyone listening to this is already, but tell a buddy, tell a friend, tell a worker, a work acquaintance, just throw on one of these games. Just give it a shot because it started slow. It built up to last night. And then now Pennsylvania, that battle happens again. You see if auto could tie it up. You get to watch McJesus do his thing in the playoffs. Once again, it's like we're here and it makes me so happy. We're back in the playoffs, another four games, four games every night. It's incredible. So boys, Charles Barkley is being paid $15 million a year to break down basketball. And he's not even watching it. I think he said on the broadcast for NBA. Thank God for hockey. Exactly. He's watching, he's watching the NHL. There's no greater thing than the NHL playoffs. Uh, these guys put their heart and souls into it. We got death threats. We got comebacks. We got it all here. In the NHL. Cool. With the piggyback. We said like, I'm sure you're watching with the, with the kids. I mean, you know, I go to cross street, not my brother. Come on. We got some takeout. Watch the game with the old man last night. You know, it's like, Oh, good stuff. It's because I don't like watching Bruins games in bars. You know, you gotta like, I gotta pay attention. I can't be distracted or too much of a crowd. So I like to be either home or with the old man. So it was good stuff. And because I got, I got to put a request out to the fellows out there. Like, you know, sometimes I, you know, disco comes on the DJ. I got, I might get a little happy feet. Like just let a brother get his groove on, man. I don't need to be posted on the internet. Cause I'm trying to get a little, little, little dance wiggle going. It's like video and you, uh, Oh, well that's that once or twice. And I'm not like on the Tony Manila Saturday fever. That comes with the territory. I understand a hundred percent. And I love, and I was, no, I was talking to the dude before that. So I was like, but yeah, it's like, you, you, you're not natural. Now you're aware that, you know, it's one thing if you know you're on, but it's like, I don't know. You're trying to like Mac on, you know, even just fucking boogie and whatever. I don't know. You all said, you're like, what are you going to do when you have your dating show and you're dancing with the girls on that and you're being videoed? Yeah. I mean, I know what I, I hundred percent, I understand you. The cameras are always on whatever, but yeah, but it's like dude to do it. It's like, come on, man. You know, you don't really, you should do it. What's that fucking slaps the phone right out of their hand. There was a video that just went out. Yeah. But I make sure my boys are behind me. I'm going to start a brawl biz. I can't take seven of them on like you can buddy. Oh, I didn't either. I got boot fucked in the head. All right. A marathon Monday. What do you got planned the rest of the day? I imagine you're getting in one. You're getting in one. I can tell you get that look in your eye. No, no, I know those days are long gone. I mean, I had a lot of fun over there. I'll sell detour chest to Charles Dawkins and go to the copy cup and public drink all afternoon. But no, I haven't gone. I haven't gone in years. I don't think I'm sure it's over by now. Uh, so yeah, it was a good time. I was trying to find the old picture I had. Like it was right before I started shaving my head. I was like, man, more people should have been telling me how frigging bald I was when I was 28 years old. You can see right through it. But yeah, it's a, it's a great day in Boston. It's one. It's a Red Sox start in the morning. It's a, it's a typically like unique Massachusetts, Boston thing. It's a state holiday. So, uh, yeah, it's, it's a great day, but no, I got no plans to tie one on today for sure. Boys, hell of a show. 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