Spittin' Chiclets Episode 627: Trade Deadline Recap

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That's b-o-m-b-a-s dot com slash audio code audio at checkout. All right. Now back to the show. So, Biz, Keith, it's great to see you guys. Biz, I'll tell you. I mean, who would have thought Gallo would have known, knew what they were doing with the Pinkies Up campaign? I mean, we thought we were dropping an RTD. They're like, nah, nah, nah, nah. We got we got something else in mind. You know, we got we got the hard liquor, 30% vodka coming at you. They're like, oh, okay, boom. Who would have thought this conglomerate knew what they were doing when it came to alcohol? They got 4,000 different liquors. They just said, hey, guys, you two idiots are going to go down to Hoboken, film a commercial and just hold your pinky in the air and barely say anything and we'll figure out the rest. We're going to put the stars around you and you clowns are going to look somewhat decent by the time this thing's done. And everybody in the airport, everybody at any charity event you go through is going to be just coming up to you and saying, hey, boys, Pinkies up motherfucker. I got to start cutting my fingernails more regularly solely because if I'm going pinkies up all the time, I can't have like a long fingernail. You should have a pink, you should paint just a pinky. That's probably a good idea. And grow it out a little girl should do it. Just ain't the vodka. What about what? Oh, okay. I see that. I see that wink right there. What about what about if I just got a tattoo where my entire pinky finger was pink? And biz, I think we recently saw a tattoo of somebody who did their entire foot like a cheeto. Who was that? You showed me that cheeto. I think that was, I think that was the the big baller brand guy. Lamello ball. He got the cheeto toes. You know, that guy made his kids wear those God forsaken shoes. And I think one of them like mangled his foot forever because of it. That's kind of like a 50% story. Yeah, I think one of them has been injured. Lonzo ball is bitten. He might never play again. I mean, his knee is completely fucking toast. Okay. So what's the part of the wheels? People say it's because of the big ballershoes. Yeah. Those big balls of wheels. You might it was like wearing a shoebox. Like you take the shoe out of shoebox and you put the shoebox on those big balls doing a big busy brand and doing skates, but like doing like the double blades. So the guys who wear them could like stand up out there because I always had a hard time. Bitch, you're a very positive person. We've been over that a million times. I found you forever. I felt pretty bad for you. Friday, buddy. It was a little bit of a dud. I saw at one point you were there. Just you and juice were making fun of each other and the timer said five hours and 27 seconds left till three o'clock. I was like holy shit. What the hell is he going to do the next six hours? We did get some fireworks at four 15 p.m. right around then with the cadre deal. So I want to hear about your day. I think you've done that. What three years in a row and with all the big hitters. Yeah. Yeah. It's a blast. I love going in there. Last year was a little bit different where I feel like so many more trades were breaking where we had a lot more time to obviously like break the certain ones that did that went down and early on it wasn't like majorly eventful. I mean, we're going to eventually get into every team that made the big ones. Some teams that were really, I mean, they left a lot up to the imagination as to why they didn't make big moves. And I'm sure that they're going to have their respective press conferences. But awesome day. Love the fact that there's the different desks, right? You got like Sam, Sam Konstantin, Buckela and Futes who, you know, you got the GM mine and guys who have been head scouts at the pro level for a very long time. And then the coach where army was at with Verstieg, Smith Pelley, in the mix now who we ran into it at the NHL network. And then obviously Elliott and Kyle, who turned into a coffee maker because there wasn't enough trades to break down. So he got the barista barista. Bucascus. Was it barista Bucakis? How do you say his last name? Yeah. You say it Bucascus? I think so. Yeah. I like, yeah, barista Bucakis because it sounds like Bucakis a little bit. A little bit. Yeah. But I'm sure he's heard that a million times. I'm not somebody to pile on. And work a pile on. I'm not a pile on guys. You know me. I'm not a pile on. But there's just for like the whole going into trade deadline day, we thought that the absolute fireworks are going to happen. All these big names being thrown around. And then absolute dud. Was it? How is the vibe in there? Like we had to be low at some point had to be honestly, buddy, we were having a lot of fun. There was a lot like we got to weigh in deeper on certain things where we weren't being cut off because there was another trade going like honest to God, my morale was was probably the highest it's ever been there. And probably just the fact that I've gotten more familiar with working with all of them. Luke Gazdick was in the mix as well. I think the most exciting move of the deadline was he closed on a property while we were at the desk. Wow. That one too. I don't think he broke that one. But Gazdick was pretty fired up because it was in a nice neighborhood. And he'd been eyeing this neighborhood a while. So that was exciting. Juice brought his Louis Vuitton backpack, which we kind of made a prop of. Don't know if it's real or not. Hey, you know, it doesn't really matter. I guess like Ocho Cinco says, right? Why make waste your money on the real stuff when you get the face, fake stuff that looks the same. And David Amber and Jen, so great crew. I got to do that. I did the game between the flyers and Leafs. Leafs ended up coming through in that one. And then the last thing I'll mention was I leave one that game. I don't think he leaves. I don't want to shoot out. I don't believe that. They're the only team to leak to not win since the Olympics. We'll get into them because as you could tell if you're watching on Netflix, thank you very much for that. Biz has, I think it's under state of union. We're going to get into. It's going to be a little different than the before the year preview of what we were going to see in Toronto. I've been, but taking a lot of else this year, guys. A lot of it. Yeah, it's been, it's been L city. I mean, God, the Oilers could miss the playoffs the way they're rolling right now. That would be the ultimate L. Well, you know, time out, time out one thing that I did offer at the desk at the deadline. Mark Spector did a hit. And he was talking about the potential of moving for a goal tender. And I put it on the table. I said I will talk the tree living. I'll talk the donor and the rest of the management in Toronto. And I will work out a deal to send Stolars your way. If spec unblocks you didn't hear a piece. The rest of the broadcast. Well, let me check. Let me check right now. So them not getting a goalie is all on spec. That's on spec and wit for not working out their differences. Unblock still unblock still. And they can't get a block in the pipes. Hey, uh, Biz, I thought for some reason you had told us that you were going to be giving back your ambassador jacket. Or was that just a sick dream I had? I there's a lot on the table going into the summer right now. And we're not, let's not chew up all the clock right now. We're going to get to a way more important things. And then the disastrous Maple Leafs. And I'm self admittedly saying that let's save it to more towards the end with you can you can address your oilers, but there's way bigger fish to fry early on here. And one other thing that I did this week before the trade deadline on Thursday night, um, Christine Simpson. She invited me and I want to say I'd maybe been invited in years past, but I wasn't in Toronto. Um, it was the cons might dinner. And this year Wendell Clark was being honored just for everything he's done in the community. And um, they work with Easter seals and they've raised now close to $14 million. Oh, yeah, for kids with with disabilities, born with disabilities. And it's, it's a great thing that they do. And obviously they honor Wendell and Doug Gilmore was there. They like give this speech to bring them on. Plenty of other amazing athletes as well. But it was a really cool, a cool cause. And I just want to thank Christine Simpson and the rest of the Easter seals and the cons might dinner and people run it. Just one of those like places and things you do if you do like one or two a year, we did the one and how facts that just it just kind of like a reset puts a lot into perspective and it was, it was awesome to attend and great to meet, great to meet some amazing young people. A few of the kids who have been to these camps gave speeches in front of, you know, six, seven hundred people. They absolutely crushed it. The one kid can sing the national anthem in 40 different languages. Forty. Yeah. He did, he did, uh, 40 different, like national anthems of countries or he can do one. He can sing 40 different national anthems, like the different countries, like how they would sing it. No, she did. He did Japanese and then he was asked to do Sweden and then he goes, uh, Sweden's a little boring, didn't know that. No offense to Swedes. That maybe we have a lot of Swedish listeners. I love sweet, great country. Maybe your, maybe your anthem's a little boring. I'm not holding it against you. It was one of the kids who said it, not me. Take it out on him. Like I said, yeah. Yeah. I had my guy. I had just relaying the message here. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't hear it. So, um, yeah. And then yeah, that was, that was just a cool night. And then obviously it led into the deadline day. So, uh, Elliott, boys, uh, that he's been crowned the king what three, four years running now broke. He broke more teams than all the, of the NHL and NHL teams did. I think it went with, uh, Elliott, way at the top, they dropped down to, I think five trades broken by the NHL or NHL teams. And then just under that was four with, with, with dragger. So fucking hell, man. Yeah. He's turned it. He's obviously the Adam Schefter of the, of the, of the, and now granted, he broke, he broke maybe one of the biggest trades this year. Schefter did in the panaren deal, but Elliott, yeah, he's taken over. I think it was 15. I did see that tweet. You're talking about about the rankings. I don't know. If the internet is more mean than they are to insiders because the people who don't get them, they get, they get it. And it's bullshit. I've said a million times. The internet's mean is hell to us, man. I catch it. I have subheating on the, I get bullied on there every day. I get, I get, I, I, I, I just sometimes I'm curled up in the fetal position from the internet. But the poor insiders just, man, they're, they're trying, right? And then you got this fucking McDavid McKinnon combo, Elliott Friedman. He's just like the super genius. And he's broken down in the ball. And then the other guys are getting buried by the internet. I think they're trying. I think Elliott just has every source. But these, some of these guys are taking major. He, I feel bad. It's their profession. They're just trying to break trades. The, the, the information that Elliott has on his phone is like more important than any like CIA agent in Canada would have. Yeah. Fuck yeah. Fuck like I don't even know if we have the CIA is there even such thing in Canada? I'm going to guess. No, but you might, you might, you must have something. You must have a couple guys up there that are really working, really working to find some deep dark secrets. And then they have to call Elliott to find out like, what's going on in on and I ran? You know, like that's how dialed in this guy is. I, I, I do want to get into the trades. But Elliott, yeah. I just can't imagine how stressful that job is for everyone. We've talked about. I mean, Kobe Armstrong describes him as an alien. So we don't really truly know if he is human. I woke up. You know, I know me. I do my, my late night pisses or early morning pisses where I'm waking up in your bed. In some, I did not wet my bed during the trade deadline, not in the W comfortable bed. So you were the big winner. You were the big winner of this year's deadline. Well, the W sheets and P pad was the winner of the deadline. But I think I woke up at four, four, 30 in the morning on a deadline day. And Elliott had just broke the John, John Carlson news. So I don't know if he ended up even going to bed that night. So it's kind of ruthless on how much he has to work. Now, uh, I want to start with, too, is John Carlson. You want to start with that? Okay. Yeah. I was glad you went there because, you know, there was a bunch of big deals, but thinking back to the capitals and all those seasons and like, God, president, trophy, president, trophy, top team running into Pittsburgh can't get by him. And they finally did it, right? And if you remember, Mike Green came into the league. I remember first planning it's Mike Green and the A H L's like, this guy, it was, it was a different level offensive defenseman, right? There weren't a lot of guys like him. I think he had 30 goals twice in the NHL. Just want to let you guys know I play with him under a team, uh, gold medal for team can be part of the team. I, I know I didn't see the ice with them. I was more of a shutdown pair, uh, but I did room with them in, uh, in Germany on the way home after you'd won gold, unbelievable guy. Just want to say I was team. They beat, I think they might, they must have beat Manchester in the, or they beat a team near Boston and one of the rounds in the call to call playoff. So Chris Bork and a couple of the guys came over. We hung out awesome dude. And then if you remember, and now why am I going into Mike Green? You may ask, I'm going into Mike Green because he was there. He was great. He's very offensive. Then John Carlson came and it was Mike Green better defensively, right? It was this guy who has all the skills offensively. He has all the vision he has. He could jump up into the rush. He could produce points, but he was an awesome defender as well. And it was like holy shit. They have their number one now. They got a true number one. And it's still even with them there took them a little while. He'd been the world juniors hero. And then they finally won the Stanley Cup. And you look back at that team. Um, it was over in Carlson. Those are the only two guys left. And he's traded. Okay. Now I understand him, him being moved. I really, I love the move for Anaheim, right? Anaheim's a hell of a team. They've had a great season. They're, they're thinking, all right, we're young, but we're ready to add something that's going to make a big difference. I just didn't like how it went down, man. I didn't, I, I don't know, I, to wake up to that is just, I think it's odd. I think it's like different players should have different types of respect. And I know the capitals have crazy respect for him. And the way that the team and the brass talked about him, it's just like kind of weird to me that it goes on while he's while he's sleeping. Like why couldn't you wait? I don't know why that couldn't wait to be done. Apparently that had happened already. Who else was trading the middle of the night? Was it, it was, what's his name from Washington, Devegas? It was doubt, I believe. Now I just feel like John Carlson and then seeing the team and the way the team spoke about it, dude, I don't know if they're, they're not, they might not do anything the rest of the year. The Bruins beat him on Saturday. Like what, what, what, what were they going to do? They were, they were four points out when they traded them. And, and I did not consider them dead at all. And it's just kind of like seeing the reaction. Dude, I've, I've, you weren't on the, we were on the game notes trade note, trade, trade extravaganza. I never, I set the morals, I never seen a team that's down in the dumps after someone was traded. Guys were just down trod, just Tom Wilson speaking, Ovechkin speaking, guys just, I mean, I felt like, I felt like a, a, a, a, a, Bruinet was pretty distraught after he found out McCarran and, and Smith were down too. I know, I know it's not to the level with, but like, like, are you kind of taking murals aside where murals was like, I feel like it's bullshit for them to do it in what could be all these last year? Like you think it's the, see, I don't, because oh, listen, Biz, I don't think Carlson wanted to be traded. He said, he said he wasn't naive to the fact that it could happen. So obviously he knows, you know, UFA coming up, he's getting older, but chances are OV's playing his last season right now, right? Considering there was a leak before the year that it was his last season season ticket seller and, and, and, and OV said he wants, he wants to play in, he wants to play in, I think Russia, like he's going to play there. So maybe it's next year, maybe he's not done. If he's not done, this is a moot point, I feel like an idiot. I just thought. So it's more the overall and, and, and, and, and, and, and you know, for a fact, so he was not told, he basically woke up to this news. Yeah. That's what we need to find out because if he didn't know anything going in, if even if they didn't come to him, be like, Hey, if we get a deal, would you be willing? Do you want to go to Anaheim? Do you want to lead this team? You've been here so long. I think it's great. I'm with you. We're like, he's one of those guys and, you know, we've talked about it with the Geno, Malcolm's in the little tangs. Like he's in that category of player, especially for the Washington. He was the only guy left in the league who didn't have a no move, no trade clause. So they had to, how did he not have one? No, I think he used to be a modified, he had a modified one. Listen, I get Washington right there kind of doing this thing on the fly last year. No, nothing was expected. They had a nice little run lost to Carolina there in the second round. But it's a first rounder. Now if Anaheim misses the playoffs, I don't think that's going to happen. They can move it. They could say we're holding it this year and you can have our next year or one. Yeah, I guess you don't want to lose it or nothing. I do see both sides. It's just like some guys deserve. I don't know. One final run. One final chance. Try to get in here. Yeah. So I don't, I don't just, so if he wasn't aware, the team was shell shocked from it. It does suck, but the GM and this management team does have a job to do. And on top of that, I feel like this would be a lot worse if we're backing it up a few years ago and they wouldn't have put themselves back in a situation to give OV at least one more chance at another run. The way that they replenished and retooled on the fly, I would say that was one of the biggest master classes I've seen as far as a retool job that maybe we've seen in the last eight years. Would Do not agree, Dylan Stromb. for nothing, okay? They end up getting checkered and who do they sub out? Another D-man, I'm drawn up. I'm Jensen. Jensen. Unbelievable for that one. Like, come on. They end up getting pair Luke Dubois over and rejuvenating him with the work. They bring in car berry on top of that, okay? And then who else do they get in between the pipes? Logan Thompson, who I think at the time was making like a million and a quarter, a million and a half. So they wrote us. Protoss. Protoss. Protoss. And he's got a brother. Yeah. Like so, you know, signing and making sure they ended up bringing and getting Tom Wilson walked in long term to continue to be part of that core. I thought when they brought doubt over that was an incredible move, who I'm also sad to see go. So I think that that management, you know, despite this, there's a lot of credit to trying to get over one last kick at the can. They make his run into the goal chase one of the most enjoyable things that any guy could experience ever in their fucking life. Yeah. And if it goes back to the conversation we were having with Merle said, I think it's bullshit that they did this to Ovi in his last year. It's kind of like, well, man, I don't exactly think that fucking Ovi's like, like he's fucking 280 and hasn't taken a diesel and draw all year. Like, come on here. Like, come on. Come on. No, just look at the East. It's so open. What if they snuck in? So they get to replenish their stable and get a first rounder for a guy who that and guess what, man, maybe it isn't Ovi's last year. He comes back for one more and they resign Carl sent in the off season. Then they're even laughing even more. Yeah. So when does that ever happen though? Oh, plenty of times guys end up resigning and coming back and they end up helping out their team. Like in my going, switching over the Leafs, I'm praying they bring back lot. Like I'm praying they end up signing them in the off season. Same type of thing they end up getting the third conditional second rounder form. So I from Merl standpoint and even G agreed with Merl's in a sense giving up on Ovi. All things considered with what I just told you is the retool and the fact that he's 280 fucking Ovi's giving up before I'm saying that that you could say they equally gave up as much at least if that's the case, right? Like it's not like it's not like he went into fucking the boss and was like, I'm going roggy style my last year here. He hasn't taken on his own draw. Perfect. That's going to be my favorite record. Forget the most goals in the history of hockey guy went a season without a defensive zone face off. And no disrespect to him. And if he was shell shocked and that group is very disappointed. And they essentially taken the heart beat out of the team by making that move. Well, they'll be sipping margaritas in six weeks. And life's still going to be pretty Gucci and hopefully brings back in the off season. So don't you think though with Ovi just for what he's done for the league? And I know a lot of a lot of NHL guys want like the spotlight on them all the time because he had it all last year. Don't you think he would tell the league when he's going to retire though? No, I think maybe he's not that type of guy. Okay. No, I don't think so. I think he's just like, Hey, I'm going to let you know randomly one day. And then I'm going to be on like, I think he was a dynamo. I think he played dynamo K. Show. Maybe he goes back there. He wasn't even a St. Peter's burger sesca guy. He was dynamo. Great rank. That was the game, a quick side story that I basically took speed before the game in a what are they call in an IV? Oh, nice. Was was flying around like kill McCarr and was like, I'm going to be in the NHL again. And then when it wore off the next morning, I was horrible again. I was like, Okay, that was a crazy drug. I just took before that game. That was the Russian gas. That was dynamo. That was, I love the rink. I have great memories of that IV going in and be flying around. Is that the same way, the same one we took before the sandbaggers, this last trip. No, those were standard IVs at a nice, classy place. And what was that little town we stayed in? Dunedin. Dunedin. Dunedin. Dunedin. Great little spot. God, I great. That's, that's, that's business 41st place. He said he's going to buy a house. Yeah, I already did. Um, final thing on that part of a, a part of a community that's 65 and older, but I invested early. Smart. It's kind of like a Ponzi scheme, but I don't really give a fuck. Yeah, you don't care. Busy made up. The age of four C's for you, you know, well, business, business met a beautiful 67 year old woman named Ethel. That's Garf. Yeah, he's, it's a 7200 for the age of way, but that automatically gets you in the botchy league. Like, yeah, top of the list. Whoa, that's huge. Yeah. But you're Canadian. So like, you know, with curling and botchy, like you got cheating issues, you better keep your fucking head on the French. I know they already explained it. These sat me down before I signed them down the line. This is the game of honesty. Final thing, uh, when I tweeted out, uh, best defenseman in capital's history question. Yeah. A lot of responses, Rod Langway, I get it. Two Norse trophies was a beast of a player, but I looked at the numbers. I think Carlson played close to 500 more games with the capitals. He got the cup. He was dominant. He had way more points, obviously. Langway was defensive defenseman. I think that John Carlson. He's got the fifth most points in the history of the capitals first for demon. And the amount of games he played, he's the, he's the best defenseman in my mind and if they're not running into Crosby, every second round over those years, they might have two cops. Yeah. Mm-hmm. You think you're the one that they still had to go through Pittsburgh in the second? Yeah, they did. They did. I think he's a Hall of Famer. I don't know, Hall, it business Hall of Fame, fucking. Yeah, he's the first ballot record. This is in my Hall of Fame. Oh, he's in every while he was until he had said 1771 points. He's like a, he's like a hall of very good. He's like might right be, might be right beneath it. I mean, the USA all to the 270 point seasons are 68 points. No, three 70 point seasons, 68 point season, a bunch of seasons in the 50s last year at 51. He's got 46 points at 55 games this year, which should bring us to Anaheim. What a move by them, right? And, and I think we've talked a lot, we'll get into Detroit about like, when do you know it's your time to kind of give it a go here? Like Anaheim's like, all right, we got a bunch of guys on like rookie deals, right? Goat, the A's not making anything yet. Carlson's not making anything yet. Leo Carlson, I'm talking about. Let's bring in John Carlson and get rid of this first round, right? I think it's going to be a later pick anyways. And now you got the young bucks on the left side, right? And you got the older vets on the right side. You get the butcher, you got Carlson, and you got the true portraying. So you got some real toughness in two of those guys. Carlson could do it all. And then, fuck man, that look home. Is it Zellwigger? They got a nice team over there. My, my, my, my, uh, ranting and raving about waxing the Anaheim ducks. I, I think I slept on that one a little bit. I'm getting a little bit over my skis, considering how bad the oilers look. So Anaheim, the fans should be excited. It's been a while since they had some, you're looking at those other two potential opponents in Edmonton and, uh, and Vegas and very winnable series. I would say coin flip, but neither series. No. Yeah. I wouldn't want to face Edmonton just because you're going against the two headed monster. Um, Vegas, no stone right now. And, and they've had a real tough time. I think they finally, uh, got a win over a playoff team. Um, sit for the first time since, uh, since November 20th. But yeah. So they, they're, they're, they're in good shoes, man. And we talked about Cutter Goethe. What is he got? Thirty one, thirty two goals now on the year. It's a machine crazy, too. The pp is twenty second in the league. So like, bringing him over, that's going to help out your power play. I think he's one of the best in the league still in the power play. Like, you have to have a good power play in play. Austin, I'm sure Q knows that he realizes, you know, you have a guy up top who's seen it all done it all. Like, you have to bring in a guy like that. If you have the opportunity. So what for that power play to, to get a legit boost from him all there. Yeah. Um, all right. Then we got to go to Colorado. I think this, this one, this one was rattling to a, to a guy who's not an abs fan. I don't know if they can be beat. me saying this. Can this be what, what needs to happen for them to lose? Possibly the four centers they have are out of control. And they still have other centers without the list. We're gonna get you. You got McKinnon. Okay. How's he? He's okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's pretty good. He's pretty good. He's pretty good. Who else you got with? And then they bring over Nazum Codry. Now the funny is part of both Codry. He, if you remember, when the Rontanon went on the run in game seven of the third period, I believe Codry sent out one tweet that said, you always keep the dogs. And he's talking about Nico Rontanon. And he was definitely talking about himself a little bit. He had to be a dog when it comes down to it. Okay. And everyone was wondering, where's Codry gonna go? It was Codry and it was, it was throw check. It's like, wow, neither one of those guys got moved. And four 10 p.m. This was my problem with it. I don't know how that happens. You have to have the trade in before three o'clock. She's done some digging for me and told me that basically it's since the disaster of the trade to dad and off, right? The Ottawa dad and off feels you remember that with Vegas? Yeah. And then they lost the list. They lost this year's first rounder. First round pick for That the league is like adamant on making sure every single trade is okay and all works out and is getting okayed by the registry and all that, but I've never seen a trade come in that late. I haven't seen it and it was a big one because the app said fuck it. We're all in and the only thing we're missing is a guy who was maybe a top three most important piece when we did win the Stanley Cup. Nazum Kadri's back. He assisted already on a McKinnon goal yesterday, right? Or was that even today? I don't know. He's a game changer in games that are mean, violent, and physical. He's amazing defensively. He gets shut centers down a little bit older. It's got some term left on the deal. Calgary agreed to eat a little bit of the money. I think it's 20%. 20% yeah. And Colorado makes a statement on saying we got four centermen that can just play with anyone. Yeah, I don't know what I'm I'm bump for Minnesota a little bit. I'm bummed for many. I'm bummed. I'm bummed for Dallas because it's just like oh my god. The fact that they didn't get troach, then you're sitting there like okay, you know what, they got a pretty deep center pool and they got Jack Dury there who when they ended up getting over in that rotten and move who is like, I don't know, I guess essentially a throwing with natious. Obviously, we know how Brock Nelson's worked out after getting comfortable with those settings and he's probably going to slot as the number two. And then they ended up picking up Rua. They gave up a first rounder for for Nicholas Wa scored already scored to score our rather. So they so so when they got him, I said on the panel, I said man, they they made a move. They have cap space left like I still think they go get Calgary and this one fucking guy goes, hey, tell that idiot, miss Annette, they got law yesterday. Oh yeah, not a fourth line center, Nazum Calgary, you fucking moron. Okay. So now Nazum Calgary is in your ear, one of those guys. What do you mean in my ear? I'm saying, I'm saying, are you saying some idiot, like a producer that's in your ear? No, no, no, no, some jackass on Twitter who was watching sports net. He's like, hey, tell that idiot, miss Annette. They traded for they traded for a while yesterday. It's like they traded for a while. Oh, so they're not going to go get Calgary because they got a while. Oh, that's fun. Let's balance the scale out here a little bit. The way that you talked about while this the in the beginning of the year, maybe that's true. He may eat that. That's the first right. Yeah, it was McKinning. McKinning, McDavid, why? Yeah, this is mine before the league season. You fucking asshole. You fucking asshole. It was me tweeting at you. You piece of shit. But hey, buddy, it goes back to management for the Colorado avalanche. Because if you go back to the beginning of last year, what do they have? They had gold tending problems just like a lot of other teams in this league. And what do they do? They went out and got two of them that are awesome. That all of a sudden halfway through the year, people will think and maybe they make the Olympic team. Okay. Who did they bring in and call up and then give a very team friendly deal. Malinsky. He signs for three and a half. What is he? He's a bigger version of Gerard, who's probably a little bit more dominant defensively. Well, they get him to agree to those terms and all the sudden they could ship some money out and save about what two million bucks on Gerard. And then it just kept freeing up more cap space and you look at all the other moves they made boys. They finally get their captain back. It's now he's out. Unfortunately, he's out right now. Landiskog is, I think he's week to week. So it's lower body. I think he'll be okay. But buddy, they're top nine. They got leccanon. They got a fuck in the chew, chew train. What don't they? They are natious. They got weapons, man. They got weapons on weapons on weapons. Waking in and you look at you look at a management team that has these unbelievable pieces of Nathan McKinnon and and and and kale McCarr and how they're able to put pieces around him in order for them to have success. And then you have to look north of the border and be like, oh my god. If only we could have had McFarlane. I know. We could have hired that guy here. We'd probably have three or four on a row at this point. Thank you. He's that guy too. Like you don't even, I bet 90% of the hockey world doesn't even know what he looks like. He's just like a behind the scenes. He doesn't get involved. He's not in the media. He's just making his team better every single year. Yeah, he just snuck in when sackic moved up. And it's like they knew exactly what they were doing. Obviously, sackic was quite comfortable with this guy taking over. And I just yeah, they're deep. They got they got puck movers. They got Manson to be physical. They got two goalies. So one of them struggling. You put the other woody in there. And then they got skies. We could score and check up front. And I thought like I thought they'd have to get rid of Ross Colton to do some of this. They kept him. It's just crazy. The fact they didn't have to get to get rid of a solid roster player. Right. Is and you have to imagine when that that trade came through, there was probably a few guys on the team who were like, Oh, God, who's going? Who's going? And to hear that it's Olson. And then what's the rest of the deal? The end of the prospect max current conditional 2028 first round pick and a conditional 27 second round pick. So I like that. You know, Calgary gets a decent return. They're a first and a second rounder. They're not really going to compete. Okay. Okay. Mick that's what he looks like folks. He kind of looks like James Dutty there a little bit with the cigarette, the sunglasses, the gold chain. Yeah, it's a absolute fucking GB gangster right there. He's a boy. What do you what do you think like Billy G and the other GMs in the West when that comes over your phone at four o'clock and you don't like the martial trade? That was at least in the threes. It was like, no, I think that was like 320ish. Yeah, this, this was like, Oh, we're done. We signed the game notes extravaganza. It was like, I think I know, 3 30 G. You could write around 3 30 like, all right. It was still 40 minutes after that. I tweeted out what the fuck just happened because I'm thinking of the conference finals, right? Oh, no. Codges. Might be another sweep. It might be another Colorado Tampa. Do you guys think? That's what I said. Take away. Take away the Bruins record breaking regular season. With the Panthers broke them in the first round. Like, have you ever, can you remember a team with more expectations going into playoffs to win it all? Probably Detroit. What back. Or even the last time that Colorado won the expectations were very high. I mean, by I saw them go against the other, we followed that series around. We did it for TNT that conference finals and they and they lost Kemper in that series in Frank, Frank, Frank, who he went in and they still worked them in four. And then they ended up beating Tampa. I believe in six games. There was never a doubt in my mind. They were going to win the Stanley Cup that year. Every, every game, they would just control it, control it, control it. It would be like, okay, like 50 50 for a few shifts and then boom, they'd have a chip where they took over and they'd roll three four lines over. Like, oh my god, they're just coming in waves. So, and it's the same feeling now. Yeah. And I wonder if they keep, if they keep fucking Nutrushkin in the Baza, this one's over. Yeah, you think you're calling it, you're calling it. If they keep him in the Baza, it's game over. Yeah. I think maybe the '01 Colorado Avalanche probably had just as much pressure with ways last season stuff like that. Because with the expectations comes a lot of pressure and you know McKinnon, I'll tell you God help if Seattle does sneak into the playoffs, which right now they're in. Can you imagine the dog before that series? They lost to him the last time they played in the playoffs. He's going to be a complete. He's going to be a rabid dog out there. Bark and spit and yelling. I heard he's got a picture of the guy from the Olympics who handed him the stuffed animal in his walker, right? Yeah. And he's going like lipstick on like in Billy Madison, ready to cross him off the list. I think we should bring everybody else. We should bring in one guy right now who for a long time, he's had an Eastern conference team, the Buffalo series, but he's had nothing to cheer that is his squat. And in those years, he's been a Colorado Avalanche guy. So just come on in. Come on in. Eric Johnson. Welcome. Well, no, this degenerate. Okay. Okay. This is a real plan. He's better. He's a little better looking. What's up, girls? Nothing. Nothing. Ryan high over here that my sabers are great. My Avalanche are great. I just put a bed in on the sabers to win the Eastern Conference. And yeah, things are great. How an RPI do the other day? RPI lost two to one. So that's not so great. Before we get there, I think we should complement Calgary on the way that they've been able to bring this thing down to the studs. It's going to get probably a little sad for a year or two here, but this is what they had to do. They were delineate inevitable. They get rid of weager. They get rid of cadre. I think they've stockpiled the first round picks. They could build around. How do you say the kid, the defenseman's last name, he's offensive play world juniors. Perrek. They have Dustin Wolfennet. So they do have a few young pieces to build around. But this is how you you burn it to the ground and you get potential first or second overall pick. You need a high pick. They've never never really had the one crazy. A stat goal and they've never had a pick higher than four. And who did they take Jerome? Sam. Oh, Benny. Oh, wow. That was their friend. That was the highest pick in their organization's history. And apparently ownership is pretty heavily involved in decision making and they've never really wanted to go with a true rebuild. There was always a retool, a retool, a re-tool. Finally, they've gotten them to agree on to bring this thing down to the studs, but we can move on from that. No, I have a little something for you on the flames, guys. I got a little tidbit for you. If you look at the NCA scoring, this was before last weekend. If you looked at the top 20, Calgary is five guys in that top 20. In the top 20. So, yeah. So they got, they got some prospects coming that, that are ready to go. That was a castagna or something from Cornell, they just got, he's on, he's a player. He's like a, I think he's like more of like a second, third line guy can do it all type of player. You know how Cornell is with. Yeah. And who's the kid at Quinnipiac was leading the nation in scoring as a freshman and he was up on a round back out. Yeah. So Calgary flames. Now, I did want to, I thought of this the other night, it was Friday. No, when did I go out to dinner, Friday night, sitting in the bathroom, just taking a leak and I started thinking about the trades. I was like, wow, Calgary, I feel bad because, man, they had something special there. If you remember, right, they had, they had a hell of a team, Edmonton beat him in the second round, it's three, four years ago, Matthew wants to leave. Donnie leaves. Like they had a lot there. They had a team that could have gone on a run and it just, Matthew want to leave was kind of the death sentence for them. That was the first nominal. And that was it. And then, you know, Ben, it's, well, Ben, it was gone first, right? And then Matthew wants to leave and Johnny doesn't resign and then they did a good job in terms of like, Huberto is coming off 100 points season and it just seemed to come. Bobby, that goes back though to ownership wanting Sutter in the seat and at the end of Sutter's career, like, hey, man, he's probably a Hall of Fame coach, but he was a nightmare to deal with. I think anybody you talk to will tell you that and and then all of a sudden, he's not, you know, not playing Sam Bennett, they end up getting rid of him for nothing. And then, you know, Matthew's probably like, fuck, you know, oh, you're going to get rid of a dog and I got to deal with this coach. He's a miserable fuck every day, peace out, see you later. And then the bottom, because there are city, like, there's places in the NHL, not just cities, some certain cities in Canada, guys don't want to play Calgary, I don't think one of them. I love Calgary. Weager. Weager was sad, man. Weager was like emotional about having like eventually moving his no move clause, but probably wanted to go win. And he knows that it's going to be a little painful for a few years. I, I, you know, I don't think anybody's got a problem with him doing that, but he was very emotional and said that Calgary was very good to his family. And it's a good place to, to raise one and, and they got a great fan base. I would say one of the more like less intense media markets and then nicest places to live in Canada. I would put it at the top of the list. Yeah. Once they get that new barn, what's that going to be a couple more years like, if they can start building, start building and then get good with the new barn, that'll be incredible. And guys will want to go there. But they got, I think it's two more seasons, the 26, 27, 27, 28, I think they hire the guys from Italy. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You're right. You got a bunch of chicken parms. Sub's finished that thing up 2045. Mer. I actually had a question for you guys with before we've, so we finished up on the trade. Did you ever have a no move clause or whatever that? Do you have to put them in when you sign the contract or is it every season, a new list or is every season a new one? You can change, you can have, you can change your, I guess I said you get a 12 team. You can adjust based on, wow, okay, they have to ask you, they have to ask you like, hey, give us your 12 teams and then you do that every year at like a certain point or they don't ask you. I, when I got traded for Pittsburgh, that contract, that six year contract had a no trade after the second year, so they dealt my ass before that thing. Yeah, yeah, they knew what they were doing on that one, like, yeah, we'll give you no trade the last four years of it, buddy. Oh, we're shipping your ass out 100% to like put them on the power play with Sid for the first half a year and let's inflate his value and then we're bait and switch bitch, see you later. Was that because it was an age thing because isn't it at a certain age, you can only have no move. No, no. I think it was an ears thing. It was an ears thing. Here's yeah, I think I think they probably look at it saying, hey, we have a few offensive defensemen, the pipeline, let's give them two years to develop and then, you know, if it doesn't, hey, this guy's seen seven foot and ankle doctors around North America. Let's throw the note to the last four years. That was before second opinions were allowed too. They were probably get this fucking ankle dickhead out of here. But Charles, I wanted to ask you, you've been on the Colorado train for three, since they wanted, even maybe four then you're mainly a leccanon guy. That's what I don't think I think you're a mechanic of a car. You're leccanon junkie. Do you see anyone beating them? Do you think it's possible? I mean, Dallas is good. Dallas, Dallas took care of them last year. They're, they're going to be there. But yeah, if you look at that center depth, if you guys talked about him yet, like that, the center depth is just, it's ridiculous. I know. They could not even have country playing center if they don't want it. I can't play on the wing on the second line or something. It's crazy. It's just like, I don't know, it's, it's going to be very difficult to beat. And there's a lot more trades to get into, but I did want to bring up because you're a Buffalo guy as well. Those are the two teams with the most regulation wins in the NHL. I think that Buffalo is 32 and the abs have like 36, 37 maybe. So the fact that Buffalo's in the discussion right now, they're tied for the division lead. I think that Tampa as a couple games in hand, you're taking them to win the Eastern conference. And they almost had Paraco. We went over that last episode. But the Buffalo sabers are for real boys, which by the way, that game's going on right now. And apparently there's been a few scraps already in that matchup. So both teams really trying to, trying to show, show the other what they got early on in case they ended up meeting in the, in the conference finals. But murals like, what did you make of all the Franco stuff? Let's start there because I think a lot of people, including Buffalo sabers fans and I want them to go on a run too, just as much as anyone to see that city light up. That back end with Kessel ring, Paranco, Samuelson, Dahlene power and who's, Samuelson is the other one I'm, is it they miss the one? Or an old bull. Byron. Byron. He flies around too. That got me excited. Like that, that's one of the best back ends I can think of in a very long time and big and long. Not to say they didn't also get big and long with Stanley and Shen, but I got a little bit more excited over Colton, Paranco who just finished at the Olympics. Yeah. That's when I threw in my future on them when it, when I saw that come because draft Kings hadn't updated it yet. I got him at 10 to one. And actually when that trade, like maybe a few hours after that, it dropped all the way down to eight to one. I haven't looked today to see where it's at. But they're, they're great team like those, those left D can just fly around Byron, Dahlene, they're flying around. And then I don't know if you watched the game last night, that building is electric again. It's sold out. You know, they're on the, on the booze. They're having a good time. So come playoffs that first round, they're going to have a huge, huge home ice advantage there. I think the one game that set it off was taped, taped tops and towel night when they came back to celebrate is a little bit gold. That was when you're like, okay, these guys are in playoff mode. You know that they're probably bringing in 25 to 30% more booze to each game on, you know, in the basement there. So yeah, you, you seem to think that they're going to run out of alcohol if they make it to the second round. Yeah. The first round is going to be out of control. I actually cut a deal with our buddy Heat Daddy on game notes on Wednesday. So I'm going to go up there for those first two games, Tim Conley, Saber's legend is going to join me. I'm in talks with Tyler and his to get him over for it. So we'll get the Heat Daddy myself and a couple Saber's alumni and we'll, we'll shoot the lights out out there and cover the first two games for you guys. Get a ton of his panic reunion up in Buffalo. By the way, so Boston and Pittsburgh right now, Boston up four, three, nine minutes up. That's a big game. I'm thinking of Pittsburgh because it involves Buffalo in terms of Malcolm decided to baseball bad thought leader head. And I don't know if people have always realized if getting Malcolm's a complete snapshot long Ben and underrated very dirty hockey player, it's a compliment guys. It's a compliment. He loses his mind several times throughout his career. And on this one decided to slash Dalline in the face, I, I will say though, Dalline's dirtier than people. Dalline's a gamer. Yeah. Dalline runs around and he's not just like cross checked him in the head a few years back. Yeah. Oh, it's the outdoor game. I remember that. Yeah, it looked like Malcolm's like brain broke and he panicked like, oh, I got to try to fight to try to cover up the slash though maybe nobody saw that like no, no, no, Gina. We saw that. So yeah, he got, he got the maximum you can get from a phone call hearing the five games. So he got lucky with that, I think. And with sit out Pittsburgh's kind of I said on them and the islanders could potentially fall off a cliff. I said that at the trade deadline. Well, let's go into the islanders now. They go out. They get Braden shed. Cool story. Gee was just filling me in. So I knew that the islanders and the who else was at the same hotel in San Jose. And when it was announced or the deal came to fruition. They had to get Braden chenzo. Okay. They had to he had the no movie. I do agree to it. And apparently he went into Patrick was hotel room. They requested him. They reached out to St. Louis and said, and he was obviously like we talked to Weeger as well on sports net, right? He got about three to four hours to go home with his wife and talk about, hey, like what do we think here do we want to wave this and move our family down to Utah and be in Salt Lake City to where this is obviously just random timing. And then they requested, "Hey, can we talk to Braden Shen?" So Patrick Waw and Darsh, they got to sit down with him and say, "Hey, and pitch him on coming to the New York honors," where if that doesn't happen, like what if that was Buffalo to Perenkel? Like imagine you get Dahlene in that leadership group with Kekele Linen in a room to sit down with him and say, "Listen, I know this doesn't seem ideal right now and I know it's a big change," but talk to your girlfriend like, we're all in and we're going to be a contending team for the next three, four years. How much, like, how much you can almost play with a person's emotions to get them to agree to come. - Like face to face, face to face. If you see Patrick Waw. - Patty Waw too, yeah. - He's passionate and being like, "Come here, we're going to win and we need you to be part of it." Fuck, pick whatever you want, let's go, baby. - And what, what said it over the top two, they said, "You can live at Matt Martins' house." - No fuck. - Yeah, okay. - It's kind of interesting with the Sabers and Peraco apparently via the PDO podcast. They had Josh Allen reach out to Colton Peraco in order to try and convince him. - I'm on. - He's like, "I'm not, I'm not even a bills fan." I just got called. - Yeah. - He's like, "How many interceptions did you have in the game you guys got beat?" Yeah, we're up there. - Hey, hey. - Should have had Cal Vio call him. - We've had a lot of discussion about Schaefer changing the franchise, right? And like a couple of people have written me, but you're overblown this one. I'm like, I don't know. Because then I see Brad Gens quote. He was asked about Matthew Schaefer's presence playing a factor in him waving his no move to the Islander. He said, "There's no secret. He's world class, he's elite." I think what guys say is how good of a person he is, how funny he is to be around. When superstars in the league are good guys to take care of teammates, guys are only going to want to be around him and guys are only going to want to come to the New York Islanders in the future just because of his talent and character. So there you go, guys. - Fucking 18 years old. - Did you see the reporter? The reporter asked Schaefer about that and like, you could see he was like, he started to like smile. Like, imagine hearing that at 18 years old that like you're the reason. - You're a couple winning captain. - Right. - It's not like some scrub. It's like a guy who's done it, bent to the top of the mountain that's basically saying I came here because of this kid. - Yeah. - And it's just, I'm happy for the honest biz. - No, I don't see. I know you say them. - No, I said, I said them to you because I also said, like that, first of all, that was before the Shen trade. And, and if you look at the highest, high danger zone, save percentage and save above expected, Sorokin's way at the top. So I use the term slapping lipstick on a pig that seems a little insulting to the rest of the lineup. I'm not trying to do that, but I'm saying is, if they're getting Ottawa Senators goal tending, they're in the bottom of the season, right? The bottom of the league excuse me. Kind of like the Ottawa Senators are with Linus Omar, but I also believe that that lineup up front and down the middle is probably a little bit better. Then overall, then the honors, are we agreeing here? - Omar's turned it around though. He's, he's turned it around, correct, correct. Watch out for them. That's definitely a team that could come up. - I think the Ottawa's could end up getting in. If they get in there, they're going to be a hard out. And David Amber said that as well on the deadline show. He, I'd agree with him there. - Considering how good Ottawa was been all year, it's literally only goal tending. So if the goal tending figures it out, then like if you look at all these advanced stats, Pasha style, like they have a legit chance to like do some damage. So the problem is now with Ottawa, Sanderson left the game. And I think Jake Sanderson at the four nations, then the Olympics like random hockey fans, they don't watch a lot of centers or like wow, this guy's actually unbelievable. If he's out long term, that's, that's a big problem for them. Because he's better horse, he's a true number one. I don't know if anything's come out today in terms of his injury, but that sucks. Considering that they're on a run right now. - Hey, Chick what's fans? We're going to take a quick break for a message from one of our partners. - Football season is finally upon us, which means it's game on with Ryobi, with over 400 core of the solutions, including speakers, fans and lights for the tailgate, leaf blowers and string trimmers for yard maintenance, stick vacuums and spot cleaners for cleaning up after the party, and drills, sols and more for your DIY projects. Ryobi has you covered from the tailgate to the garage, backyard and everywhere in between. 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So I, St. Louis, right? It's going to be tough sledding here. Very shocking, I think, to see Paraco didn't get moved. He kind of did, but that fell apart. There was rumors of Bennington, big rumors on Robert Thomas. It seems as though those are summer traits, okay? I don't think that there was a way to get that, all that stuff done. What was odd was that I thought when Paraco said, "No, it'll buffle," he just wanted to stay in St. Louis, but then it came out he was open to Anaheim or LA. Now did Anaheim then call and try to figure out something there and then go to Carlson when they realized they didn't have a deal done, I have no idea. But I didn't think he was going to be willing to go anywhere when I heard him say, "No," but it was just buffalo. I still think though that Armstrong, it seems like it will be his last year. Yeah, I think it's taken over next year. I can't think of a better situation to leave an organization and then what he's been able to hand off to Stene. I don't think Paraco's got a good contract. I want to say he makes under $6 million. Yeah, it sucks you didn't move him, but he's still a very serviceable defenseman. It's not like he's like this horrible contract you got to deal with. Robert Thomas is a great foundational center that's still only 26 years old. So if you don't end up dealing him in the summertime at the draft and who gives a fuck and Bennington's still a world-class goal, that's only making six million. I think next year's the last year of his deal. So yes, would you want to get some more assets in order to strip it down? And would you not say that between Broberg, Holloway, they got some pretty good pieces. Snuggaroo, Cairo's still there somehow. Cairo's making eight million bucks. Probably like, I don't know what you do with him. I think that you obviously, he doesn't, I don't know, he just seems like a guy who's maybe a little bit disinterested there where it's like, okay, we'll see if you can get that off and someone else can work with him. You don't think that they're definitely gonna trade Robbie Thomas now after having, you know, go through all this bullshit during the year? Maybe they will, but they're gonna get either way. They're gonna get a good value in return where you've now stripped this thing down to the studs and you replenish them with a bunch of first round picks, a lot of drafts talk and you made some pretty good moves in giving those guys off her sheets off of Edmonton where you got, you know, three, four young guys to start building your team around who are legit NHLers. Like the other one I'm thinking of is Bull Duke who they ended up getting for, or roll. Sorry, that was a tough trade. I don't, that Logan Mayu for him was, that was a tough one. So Logan Mayu's been playing pretty well lately. - Playing better. - That has put them on D. - Yeah, they had known it anywhere. - Yeah, I was happy I didn't talk to the Blues because you see they were chasing down the phone records and everything, Army wants to know who's the leak. I'm like, thank God I haven't texted him, Monty or Steener in the last couple of weeks, I got it. - So I'm glad you brought that up because that was interesting. That was straight up like CIA shit. We talked about the CIA earlier. Who leaked this? Who let this out? Now I didn't even know, like they went Babcock style. They grabbed the phones, they grabbed the computers, they want to check everything. I guess it could have been somebody in Buffalo, right? Like, or, I mean, if they're only checking the work phones to guys of other phones, but if somebody had been caught in St. Louis leaking that trade before Paraco was able to hear about it on his own and not have it be public because that is a huge aspect of it. Like all of a sudden you're like, well, now this fan base is going to despise me. And now I got all this different pressure on me that like I have to accept, I don't want to accept. I didn't know you could grab the phones like that, but that's a problem with this. Like I don't think the toothpaste is out of the tube though, boys. We talked about the insiders, like anytime anything happens, it's immediately on the internet now. - Isn't it always the agents? That's what I always do. - No, not always. It's a crapshoot. I thought that this would be a good way to segue into the amount of no move and no trade causes. Every year it's percentage wise gone up and up and up and now we're at 37% of guys in the league have some form of modified no trade cause, which, listen, like if you get-- - It hurts your deadline, show. - You know, kill the no double salary retention. And then that right there about the modified no trade causes the fact that like guy doing. the only players who don't have them now are guys on their entry level basically like it's fucking insane. Now, from a player's perspective, from a NHL PA, a player's association, the agents, obviously they want protection for their guys. I'm just more looking at it from a guy who was just happy to fucking be there. They're acting like getting traded at the Buffalo's like they're going to Chernobyl. Like it's like, you know, you know what I'm saying? Like, yeah. And if it'd be dumb not to think that taxes have something to do with it and then certain locations that have something to do with it that have kind of been on the black ball list, like the win of pegs, like the Buffalo's where, man, it's 2026 in the NHL. There's no bad places to play. Really. Big tree. Jesus said this in the chat. Like big trades are great for the league on really are. Like it gets conversation going. It gets, I don't know, people talking and it, and it, it just brings attention to the NHL where I don't think it's easy for guys to get out. I've been there. But you got a ton of headlines and you get a big move. So you, you want those? I mean, that's what the biggest part of the NBA now is their trades. That's the only thing I'm ever seen is who's getting dealt where and when. So, so people hate when we use that comparison because they say, look how shit the NBA has become. So that's, I guess, a fair argument. Yeah, but they'll never be super teams, like the NBA. No. So out of the shadow. Hey, so out of the three, if you could only have one, a cap circumcision, the salary retention or no trade clause, which would you have? What, what do you think would get more trades? I think that double salary retention helped a lot. Yeah. And it sucks. The reason I would be okay if the no move, low trade modification shit keeps going, is just because it does benefit the players and providing them with security. And as Kevin BXA mentioned to BXA ended up agreeing to a contract that was paying on the boat, two to three hundred thousand dollars less each year on this AAV in order to get that security for him and his family. I just think it's, it's like, okay, well, if we're up 37% now, it's going to continue growing because it has every single year. Should it be capped just like the amount of of contracts you're allowed to eat per team, which is now three, like you're allowed to eat money on three bullets as we speak right now until obviously that contract in which you ate runs out and then you get your bullet back. So should there be a limit as to how many you could have on a roster? I don't know where a player's podcast. I fucking hope everyone has has one. Well, then nobody's going to be playing in Buffalo. I want to ask you, Ian, you had one. Did you ask for orders? That's something your agent went and got for you and like, oh, look, buddy, I got you the no move clause. Thanks for that four percent. It's one of those things that I think when you have a family, it's more talked about like, it's like, okay, you know, when they're in school, you want to know that they're going to be there for that next, whatever, however long your contract is. But I think it was something that we talked about, like, okay, now I'm finally a free agent. You can, you know, ask for stuff like that. So it was kind of one of those things we talked about having it and yeah, he got it for me. Shout out to him. I remember the first time I heard about the, because there was always no trades and then like the no moves where you came and get sent down like the big dogs got those ones. Like you can't you can't buy me out. You can't send me down. I'm literally here. You can only get bought out. Yeah, I had no move. I got, but you just can't get sent to the minors or no mind. That's great. That's nice. I never got one. Obviously, I had the opposite of a no move clause. I just, you got, you play one year and you have to move the merely move clause. Do you not, do you not agree as time moves on though that once again, state tax element is playing a factor and then these guys deciding, hey, put it on the list. I don't want to go there. Yeah. That's why I feel that there should eventually be an even playing field when it comes to that because it's affecting other areas, including not having to pay guys as much. So I know I was called a fucking idiot and whatever other R words you want throw at me, but I wasn't wrong. I was just early. So I also, I was nervous for Detroit going into this deadline. You remember the Dylan Larkin comments, right? We kind of like very, very, you don't see much of that in the NHL. Just basically like kind of calling out to DVI. We thought we were getting some help and they went out. They got David Perron. I like that move. He's older. He's played us, played so many games, played a lot of big games. I like it, but I was like, they need help on D. I like that move with Justin Falk. Justin Falk is a hell of a player. He could skate. He could play over 20 minutes. And it just adds to a decor that I think needed something. Would you agree with that one, right? You got Cider, you got Ed Vinson. And then it's like, we just need a little bit more here. All right, we'll get a guy who's played a lot of hockey who knows how it, you know, the game does change. I think he went to St. Louis the year after they won it. But what did you think of Detroit's deadline? It's like, were you, if you're a win, it just wreaked of wreaked of, we're going to plug some holes. We're not going to overpay for anything. We're going to address the subtle areas that we need to now in order to like for sure make playoffs and maybe win around. But we're not going to do anything drastic. I was really, really plug in for them to move for Robert Thomas. I was, and I, we talk about window like how old's Larkin is Larkin 2930? Probably right around. And I, and listen, I don't know, I also don't know what that roundtable thinks of Robert Thomas in his game. I would have just assumed having, having a Dylan Larkin, Robert Thomas, one, two for under nine million for the next five, six years, whatever it may be. And now that would probably mean getting off one of their goalie prospects. Don't know who they get off of, right? They got Kosa who's, you know, six, six, six, seven, absolute monster. He's playing unreal and grand Rapids. And then you got Augustine who's in Michigan where his skating, but maybe a little bit undersized for these new breed of goalies. But I think he's pretty big. Yeah, he's pretty big. What does he think one six two? I thought he was like six four. No, I mean, I, I did the tour with him. And he definitely, he definitely wasn't six four. He got six one listed. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So, but very good skater. Like he has that Jonathan quick pedigree where he's low. He's post a post quick. Very agile. So that would have been probably one of the guys you would have to come off of knowing that Bennington's probably going to be on the way out. And then you keep hearing Casper's name. And I was talking to Bucala. And I said, even to get more aggressive in order to get him, would you give up Bucala? He's an old scout for the Florida Panthers. You know, it does the panel at the deadline. Very, very smart guy. He's always in the bowels of the arena as knows about a lot of guys. I asked, would you do Finney? So he would, he even said, imagine you package Finney, the goalie prospect and a first rounder. Like does that get it done? Or, or Casper a goalie prospect and a first. Does that get it done? They had some great prospects to the like Max plant leading the NCAA and point you have Carter bear who went 13th overall last year. Like they have not ready to part with him yet though. They're not ready to part with those guys. But then again, like do they ever get to the level of what Robert Thomas is and locked in for the amount of money that he's making? So I don't know. And by the time these guys are ready is Larkin now all of a sudden 32. I'm not saying he's out of his prime, but he's not going to be a spring chicken, right? So that felt like a like a fan from the outside looking in. I'd like to see it done for some fireworks. But I thought that, hey, stay the course. And I can't question him the same way that I would probably look at Montreal's deadline a little bit more underwhelmed. But you think I'm going to fucking can't use got shit cooking there and he did some great news that moves in the off season. We talked about Balduke. He did the dobs in one. He got lane Hudson locked in. They're doing a hell of a job. And he's also thinking the same thing like it's not like yeah, we're in the playoffs, but it's not like our window yet. Now how quick you just see windows closed so quick. That's the scary part for fans with eyes of him though. If I was a Red Wings fan, I would be like the guy knows what it takes to when he can look at a team and tell like this team can win it all and right now he's probably saying I don't think this team can win the Stanley Cup. So yeah, I'm going to add a little piece here and there, but I'm not going to mortgage future yet. When I'm looking at a team through 60 games, 65 games of deadline comes. And I've been on these Stanley Cup teams. I can tell all right, it's time. It's time to part with some big time prospects and some high picks. So I get it. I thought Detroit was going to go get tro check just because like he played there, his his wife's from there. Like there's connections there. He wanted to be. I heard that ask was ridiculous. And I'd much rather overpay for and gives something for Thomas with the length of the deal and how old he is rather than than troche. I'll I'll give you one theoretically that I thought of that. Don't know if if Rangers would have went down, but given Billy J G's connection to JT Miller and trochec, imagine they would have moved for both guys to come back with a name called JT. Why not man? You get maybe you work out a three way where you get where you get what a wallstad, young, unbelievable, groly, golly prospect. And I'm sure they have other things in the pipeline where they can give up, you know, what I mean, I don't know. That that to me would have been. That would be sick. Ridiculous fan type trade. Clearly not going to work. But if you're if you're the Rangers, why not just strip it all the way to the stud? You have your foundational piece in Chesterkin. You just sent out this letter to the fans and you essentially did absolutely nothing at the trade deadline. I know they're wasting shesterkins prime here, like you can't have what the fuck. Yeah, 100% like it's it's like the Kerry price situation to Montreal back in the day, like you have this stud goal. You got to fucking put teams around when you have a goalie like that. Even Sirokin in the islanders like now they're putting it around it, but when you have a goalie like think of every team that doesn't have a goalie. That's why that's why the wallsted thing. In a freeway where yeah, they got to sterk and they don't need them. Well, they can go flip him for a good player. So that's a huge piece and then send fucking two, maybe three first rounders their way and then all the sudden you got Ericsson act JT Miller trocheck and then the Karen down the middle Hartman as well. I don't know if they would keep him there. They'd move into the wing once again. That was just one I fucking smoked a bowl and thought of in my brain. So we still have time. You can my might get the room if Colorado's doing it. That breaks right now. One last thing I got on Detroit just to close up on them when they got this fuck when I see him, I immediately think of Sandin pelica. So that's another reason you're bringing a guy like fuck not only for this year, but I mean if there's that that's like the perfect player for him to look at and learn and play that exact style. And he's got a year or two for this year, right? Yeah, I don't know that he signed a nice healthy deal when he did it was five or six years. I think he's got one more year. I wish I was shocked with how many minutes he's still playing fault. Like I think he's over 22 and a half minutes like that's fucking but that's probably be around 18 and Detroit. Right. That's another thing too. It's like just true about Nana. I mean, Truba's playing 22. Well, now they get Carlson. He gets bumped down to 18 minutes, which is probably where he should be at. So, yeah, I'm happy for Detroit. I hope they make playoffs and we get a little bit new blood. And Larkin apparently his the you saw that little injury that he had, but apparently it's better than what they thought it was going to be cool. I look like ACL. Yeah, that was ugly looking stick sticking with Minnesota. I think probably probably hard for wild fans to see that Codrick deal come in so late, right? They think they could play with anyone. It also isn't fair to that. I mean, imagine if he'd done Quinn Hughes at the deadline, he did the biggest move of the season so far. It just happened so long ago. Um, but bring it in Nick Falino was sick. I mean, like I think that that Marcus said his dad is on the phone. His dad is dad was kind of tearing up and just to have your brother there. And I guess they were tracking the phone. He's like, I got traded. He's like, oh, where is like I'll see. In a couple hours like that is so sick. You know, Nick's on, Nick's on the back on the back nine of his career, but you could tell what he meant to Chicago. I mean, those guys are putting out post and he's very involved. I think both of those guys are very involved with like the communities they play in, like they just seem like they've been raised the right way. Like good people, good leaders, stick up for teammates. And so now they get to play together. I don't know if they'll be on the same line or anything, but that was cool to see because you wondered if Nick Falino would get a chance to go somewhere. To try to try to win one of these things and he gets to go be with his brother. I love that. And he just grinded it out, helping, helping with bedard and helping with that situation. So I feel like he deserves all that. Yeah, I think, I think Billy G saw like the power of brothers at the, I think I said it on your show, Marles, like having, you know, Quinn and Jack Hughes and then the Kachak's at four nations. And realistically, Nick's probably going to go in there, play a limited role, just be an unbelievable teammate. He's not going to be playing 18 minutes a night, like he used to, right? But he's, he's one of those guys. He shows guys how to practice the right way. He's such a good guy in the locker room. One of one of the best guys I've ever played, I played worlds with him one year and one of the coolest, like just a nice humble guy. He's going to mean monuments to that locker room in the few months. I'll be there. Imagine they brought B.Y. on your team, you know, it would have done the opposite of all that you just said. Another reason I like doing the panel, too, is you get like little nugget. So B.X.O. was saying that how much that McCarran deal, like how important it is, because between Erickson, that can Hartman, I think that they're each in the low 40s on face offs. So McCarran is a career of 52, 53% guy where that's huge, man, they're just even getting possession. In some cases, I mean, we saw it with Trocheck at the, at the Olympics, right? Going out there is like the repairman, even in some cases, three on three. So that makes a little difference when you're getting down the nitty gritty in the second and third rounds, where all the little details are starting to matter. The hem going out there to take these on draws to get them out of shitty situations, ain't going to be the worst thing either. So that, that to me was probably why they ended up giving up the second and the fourth in order to get them people. I think that that J fresh guy tweeted out like one of the most overrated things to, to, to like acquire for someone for is like a career 52 or 53% face off guy, but I tend to disagree when both your other guys are in the low 40s, like you're talking about a 10 point swing. Well, think of how important puck possession is in playoffs. Yeah, you waste all your energy chasing it back by time you get it back. It's time to change. And you start with that pockets on world of difference. Yep. Seattle Kraken boys, they go out, they get Bobby, McMahon. And I was wondering where this guy would go. And I would have loved to see him in Edmonton. That a lot of others fans were talking about the possibility that chance he could end up there. You heard different rumors is offered it. Yeah, yeah, you offered us the whole team with me and spec could make up. But McMahon, Seattle, like you kept hearing what they had offered. Penaren in a contract like Seattle has been very open in terms of like what they're willing to do. They want to make it. They want to make the playoffs. They want to get people trying to watch their games. This is what they want. Yeah, I know. That's why they want to penaren, but fuck there's still on the no watch list. Yep. And San Jose's one point behind them for the last spot in the, in the, in the West. And they have nothing to even do with booey in this case boys. I'm praying. Celebrini and San Jose made it over Seattle. No offense to see out. No, that that's just a straight up like no brand to see. Celebrini in the playoffs instead of the Seattle cracking. Oh, we are we really having this conversation. Oh, he's smoking. And, you know, he can, he can get in there. Do his thing. He flies. Lately, I just hope he signs a big contract because he's, he's grinded to get where he is. And then the Leafs also sent Scott Lawton to L.A. He scores immediately in his first game. I've seen more Leafs fans tweet about the fact of what they gave up for Lawton, then what they traded him for and they never gave him this correct me here. They never gave him a chance on a top two line in Toronto. Lawton. Yeah. Well, that's what all the Leafs fan to say. I don't think Lawton would even say himself that he's a top line guy. But you're saying, but like more eyes, then yes, I think that I think that the, I think the overall conversation right now is the disconnect maybe between management and their decisions and then how they've been portrayed on the ice. And in, and however, Barube wants to roll out his team the way that he wants them playing. I think that he was a type of guy that was averaging like 10, 11 minutes per game. And when you have a heart and soul guy like that, who puts a lot, a lot of effort into his game, I think that what Toronto fans are, are, are, are yearning for is just somebody who kind of bleeds blue and has the identity of what they want. Like these fans are used to killer and, and Wendell Clark, you know, they don't as much as they love seeing Willie dominate and go out there and have his shifts. Like I don't think they can relate to him as much as they would look like Scotty Lawton. And you could judge it by his post that he sent out. He said, dream come true. Thank you so much. And then all the fans were like, you got holes, wish we would have treated you better. And I'm hoping that it's the old bait and switch where he ends up coming back and actually signing. But yeah, I don't think that he ever played enough here. And it didn't just the trade and what they gave up for him and how they played him didn't justify what they gave up for him. And that's where I talk about the disconnect. So There's a lot going on at Toronto boys and I'm boys with Brad tree. He laughed like that. And it sucks. It's bad. It's bad. I'm bad. I'm boys of tree living. And you love tree living. He was our assistant. Yeah, I mean, he's a beauty, right. And I don't know if he makes it through the summer based on how the team played. He took full accountability for it. I would say that asset management is going to be something that's held against him in how they judge him and his tenure with the Toronto Maple Leafs. And how much is affected by people above him and how much say they have on what's happening with the team, right. So the car low trade was kind of the the car low trade is going to look bad, but I also understood it at the time. In the fact that they needed a, a, a, a top four D man and they needed one cheap who still had a little bit of term left. Tanne of when Tanne is healthy, I feel like it's a different back end. And I, and I feel that with a proper retool this summer, if, if Matthews ain't sticking around for a rebuild. So they have to retool. And so this summer, a lot is going to have to be done in order to make them relevant. And if they're able to stay healthy, I still believe that they could be a playoff team. And what that means after that, the Matthews situation is interesting because if you talk to anybody who watches them all. time. The member when he was struggling offensively this year, like everybody was ragging on him. Boys, he's playing against top lines night and night out. He's starting a lot of the defensive zone draws against them. They can't defend. So if they lose the draw, there's he's spending the whole shift in his own end, trying to win his one on one battle. So you can get the fuck out of his end where you look at dry side and make David and yes, they're playing against top end guys, but they're also starting on offensive zone draws a lot more than Austin Matthews is and their team is putting them in situations to have more offensive success. And if Barube and the way that he won in St. Louis is the way that he thinks that he can win because he did it with that particular personnel. I don't think Ryan O'Reilly, he's a he's a 70 point guy who's unreal two-way player. So is Austin Matthews, but he also needs to be put in situations where he could put the puck in the back of the net because he can do it more freely than a guy like Ryan O'Reilly. So it's hard to take an old head coach who's had success winning a certain way with St. Louis because he's going to try to take that winning formula and how you have to defend and play that two, one, three, two hockey to the new team in order to try to instill in them. But it's like, well, if that's not the makeup of the roster and all the sudden you have way different personnel and then you try to implement that, you get boring. This is all hockey. There's this all fucking season long with Toronto. And also like I saw the clip in in New York when the Rangers smacked them the other night. It was like Barubi was like yelling out. I mean, guys are just like not even listen to him out. Yeah. And so I who the fuck am I to point the finger at Barube or the top end guys or management there. However you want to look at it, there's just a lot of disconnect. And it's not the type of group that you feel proud watching. And I don't know whoever you guys want to point the Blamo too. Well, I'm not going to give it to Austin Matthews. I'm going to beg him to stay because if he doesn't, now we're going to rebuild. You might as well get rid of Willie because he's not a guy you build around because he's got his titties out in the press box. You laugh, man. But he, William Neelander needs to be your fifth or sixth guy showing up in whatever fucking outfits he wants to. But he ain't going to be the one answering the questions. And he needs to be Lucy Goosey. But I'm not storming the beaches of Normandy with William Neelander. No, I'm going on a Louis Vuitton shopping spree with him. Yeah. And you're and you're and you're counting on him being the 90 hundred point guy. It's going to have a couple ridiculous turnovers, but it's he's a 90 hundred. Yeah. He's Phil Kessel on the penguins. Did you guys see the tweet from draft Kings today? Or it was before yesterday's game. Only team not to win since the Olympic break. It's Toronto Maple Leafs. And then they lost again last night. Well, here's the thing. Now, bitch, you got now you got to make sure you get that pick. You got you got to end up. Well, I don't know if you guys saw the TSN mock draft. We got first overall. So we're good. Yeah. Okay. Wow. Okay. Now it is crazy though. As much shit as you give me. It's it's true. It was like Toronto right now. Where is it here? There's second to last in the East with 65 points. That puts them two points out of the playoffs in the West. So it's really sweet in terms of like the East and the Atlantic. And it's been so good. You take away the central and the West, the West, the West Conference is pathetic. Wait, I actually don't think they want to get rid of that pick this year. I mean, like you want, they want the Bruins to have that pick this year because then it gets pushed to next year. And if they're doing this rebuild thing, buddy, that that's the thing. I don't think they're talking rebuild. They got a map. I don't need I get where you're saying G, but they're they're going to they're going to have to sit down with Austin Matthews this summer and tell him, Hey, another point that was brought up and I agree like they brought in Nick Robertson back on like a qualifying offer dirt cheap. And then they go out and they sign Michele and it never seemed like either of them got any system. Michele may be a little bit more, but he was kind of in and out to line up off of the top line where where why not give Robertson some runway to try to have there. They never did. They never did. So once again, the disconnect in and it just seems like nobody's really happy. Nobody knows where they where they sit. And it was just a brutal fucking year that I hope they learned from and I hope the tree gets an opportunity to retool. He did go on Kippenborn after and and and shut out to Kippie. He called it. He asked the hard one. He didn't give a fuck. And then what happened is he said, do you have a plan? And he didn't sound great. Like the audio over the kind of heaven and hall and like, we're going to get a plan. So it's like, oh, you don't have a plan. And that's where the fans are like, what what happened? We were up to, but he might have to keep his pants. He might have to keep his cards close to his vast, yeah, of course, his chest because who's the guy that's there that's been around forever? Like, is it is it is a beast in who he don't he rent runs MLSC. Oh, I don't know. Is it Keith Pelley? Isn't he the guy or Pelley? Pelley, maybe it's Pelley. I know the ambassador. It goes back to like, I know, but I don't pay attention to all the political bullshit all the way at the top. It's Keith Pelley, president of made believe sports and entertainment. How much shade is he have at the round table? I don't fucking know. I can't even get a text to back from donor on whether they, uh, Anaheim offered, uh, meet, who's it? Meet Nakudi says last day in the Russian. Oh, yeah, the rumor of Michikov and McTavish for nice. Her that rumor. I'm not he wanted. I don't even get text back anymore. I think I might have. Well, you know, you don't fish. You don't fish for it. Well, I did on that one. This is fucking means we come on the podcast to try to talk about what I think I know I'm talking about. This guy, boys, this guy, every time we talk Leafs, that some pornians are screaming, I love you for it. I love you for it. But, but if that remains, I don't fucking know what's going on. I'm just trying to be supportive and gas my boys up. I don't think anyone there knows what's going on. That's the main issue we can end this thing with that, that is the big problem. Perfect. Perfect with management then. By the way, that's why we keep this jacket. Hey, Tampa, Tampa comes into town. They get a win and who scores, but new Tampa Bay late in the Corey Perry. Is there a person that loves hockey more than Corey Perry? This fucking guy is going to play until he cannot get a contract. I'm talking like, on each coast league hockey league. He might play till he's 55 years old if you can get a coast league deal at 54. He's and it's funny because like some guys that he's won a cup was a long time ago, but some guys at the end, they're like, I don't want to move. He's like, no, no, no, no. I'll go anywhere. And Tampa has a chance to do it this year. He's been there. I think his quote was, yeah, when you've lost five of the last six Stanley cups, I'm I'm still pretty hungry to get one. And he got right. He got a goal. Quick for him. So I like that move for Tampa. Adds him. That's it. I'm old from the spears in the first round. He's looking at five, five, five and a half spears, a couple cross checks. You know, he's getting two goals in the first round around the net. That's a guarantee right there. And Tampa just Tampa was like, we like our team. I don't think Tampa had to do that much. Usually they're out swinging. I thought maybe Blake Coleman will go back there too, but Calgary never traded him. That was a surprising one. So what other trade do we have? Oh, Warren Fogel went from LA as well to Ottawa. I like Warren Fog. I like Warren Fog. Guy flies around. He's pretty good. He led LA Kings in five on five goals last year. Did he really five on five goals? Yeah, it was it was for a third rounder. I know. Is he's contract coming up? You think about all these guys. The oiler's lost. It's crazy. That's another guy. Warm. Oh, man. But talk about like Corey Perry. Like, what a guy? Talk about a guy who's just, you know, he was he was the MVP of the league at one point. Now he's just he's fine with being a fourth line or two. Doesn't care. Doesn't care. Just wants to be playing. But wherever he is, fourth line, he'll play. He'll play. He's always on the power. But I like, but yeah, I'm in front on the second pp. Yeah, he was he'll fight five, six times a year. The guy's going to walk in chair when he leaves the ring. Like, he's out of his mind. He's out of his mind. He is so and the and the superstitions and just getting to play with him, buddy. I was like, it seems like a different lifetime that I played with him. He's still doing it. And Tampa brings him back. Who knows exactly what he has there. Hey, chickens fans, we're going to take a quick break for a message from one of our partners. This one's brought to you by tick pick. Ever actually read a ticket receipt service fee, processing fee, convenience fee, convenient for who? That's an extra 30 bucks a ticket. Tick pick doesn't do that. Never has. Never will. No fees means the exact same seat, same section, same row, cost less on tick pick, fans, trust tick pick for all their live events, check to reviews yourself. So why overpay for the exact same seat? Download the tick pick app and never pay another service fee again. And for new tick pick customers, take $20 off your first order with promo code PMT20 in the tick pick app. Terms apply. That's PMT 20 at checkout for $20 off your first order. All right, now back to the show. Hey, it's Fran from chicks in the office. It's officially sweater season, and this fall, Abercrombie is setting a new standard. With upgraded fabrics like 100% cashmere wool blends and other natural fibers, this collection brings quality and craftsmanship to your favorite seasonal staple. The one I'll be wearing most is the Rollneck crew sweater. It is so perfect for busy weekends dressing up for a night out. You can dress it up, dress it down with my Abercrombie denim. This is your sign to curate a whole new aesthetic as the temperature drops. Shop new sweaters at Abercrombie in the app online and in stores. All right. So we talked about Minnesota. We talked about Colorado super team. Dallas went out and got bunting. Bizz, you've loved bunting. I guess because he was on the leaves. You loved them. But it seems that you've kept that love from a lot of guys leaving. And you're like, no, no, I don't care. He's an upscale neck cousins. He's a piece of shit. He'll stir it up. He'll get in front of the net. They'll go to the hard areas. I feel like he's a perfect guy that that should be playing, you know, third, fourth line. And then maybe you bump him up to the top two lines for a gamer too. It didn't give you a spark. Don't exactly think that he could have sustained success in a top six role. He did play with Austin Matthews and Mitch Mariner when he was in Toronto. I think he had 29 goals one year in the NHL. So I think that that is a type of guy that you want to you want to bring into a dog fight. I think I don't. That's what I see him being all over McKinnon in that series. Just being so annoying. That's their chance is to try to get him just off his game. And that's the perfect guy to go there and he can skate well enough to keep up with them. And he's just like you said, he's a piece of shit to play against. I think that they were just really looking to fill a void after losing Marchment. And they need somebody who's a piece of shit like that who's really going to give you this thing he met. And he, I mean, he's essentially bang guy is what he is. I mean, dude, Robertson, Wyatt Johnson, Dushane, Rottenon, Rupert Hance, they're a fucking good team. And they bring in Tyler Myers, a big defenseman who can shut guys down. They got Heskin and Lindell's an awesome shutdown guy. Harley can move the puck. You're right, Murr. Like, bitch, the shell is like shell six or something would see six six six seven. Yeah, he's a monster's. Imagine having Myers out there together on a PK. Gee, hop on here for a second. Who is this kid who played at Northeastern? Who now has nine goals for Dallas? He's nasty. Herokian, how do I say his name? Herokian, I believe that's correct. Is it though? No, I'm awful with names. Remember I said Sasha Bouvair was Boosevay on terrible themes. I might be the worst one here. Well, he's good. And I feel really bad right now. And he's a nice player. He was good at Northeastern. I was like, this is the same guy. I remember in the bean pot. He's kid, yeah, all of a sudden he's making an impact. So Dallas has some guys. You don't know. It's the only thing that they only pay him 1.92. He doesn't really make anything at all. I didn't even know we made that nine. It was a two year deal 1.9 950 AAV. So he's making absolutely. And then when you look, right, say call out of place Dallas. We're not Minnesota. It's going to have a say against Dallas. We're not saying that's done, but which would black with their nice, but they're not oughtinger. Neither one of them are oughtinger, right? So if you look at a big D that Myers move was nice. Like that, that's a guy just taking up the space. It's so funny how like Vegas started it. Murls, you called it when one of your best arguments of all time is you need big D. And like since then since Vegas one Florida did it. And now Dallas is like, all right, we'll just get a bunch of monsters. And when we don't have a monster like Huskinen, he's going to be one of the best skaters in the league. So yeah, that is going to be it. I mean, you always see at the deadline, there's a big need for big long defense. It kind of seems like the formula. And we did glance over the backup plan that Buffalo had, which was Logan Stanley and Luke Shen. So what did you, I'm going to throw it back over to you, Murls. Like sometimes the best trades are the ones that you don't end up making. And that Logan Stanley has had his best offensive year. And then you get Luke Shen, who's a great number seven. If you need a jolt in the lineup, you know, he's going to be pinning guys against the wall. He's not the worst with the puck since he went to Adam Oates and started getting better with his touches and stuff like that. If he's playing a number six slot playing 10, 12 minutes and killing penalties, I think he's effective. Yeah, and my whole take on that is just because these playoffs are so long. It's not a one game series like college hockey. It's seven games after you just played 82 games. So you're already worn down. I mean, just in the AHL, I was worn down going into these seven games series. You guys will know in the playoffs in the NHL. It's even more intense every other night. If you're a bigger body, you don't get worn out as much. And like you're playing these guys. It's so annoying. I talked about it with Bunting, but you're running into this Tyler Myers every time. You're going to run into Logan Stanley, like it just gets annoying. These giant guys are everywhere. They're sure you can't move them. They're pushing you around it. It's, it makes a big difference. The seven games, especially in that third round and in the finals. It's Justin Ritzkovian. What did we, what did we say? Did we say, what did we just say? I don't think I know the way you said his name. Because I'm watching clips of this Tampa Buffalo game right now. Are they killing each other ended up fucking giving it to Corey Perry. And while he's already fighting, Perry, Perry fought for Tampa off of the face off. It's getting savage out there. It's currently three one for the Sabers over the Tampa Bay Lightning, sending the message. They also picked up a carrot as well. Correct. As a fourth line depth guy. And he's off. He's a nail going to. I think he's from Strathroid Ontario. Elliot Friedman posted. No one's at the dollar. Where's he from G? He's from some place where they breed mutin Stovill Stovill, Stovill Ontario. Stovill is a new essential nail gun central. Hey, you know what we forgot? We forgot a Connor Garland over to Columbus. Oh, yeah. Love it. Love that. Love that. I felt bad in overtime. They had a great game with Utah Logan Cooley scored the OT winner and the OT winner. Proverov and and Garland had a miscommunication. So Keller ended up walking in feeding, um, feeding it over to Cooley was a sick pass. But Garland happy for him gets a chance to get into the playoffs. I still think Columbus can get in. Let's see right. Let me get all your guys, um, let me get your, your playoff picks for the East right now. Let's say this Tampa's in Buffalo's in Carolina's in. Okay. We got a possible Carolina's deadline. That was fucking brutal. Buddy, I, I don't get it. I don't get it. I think the fans have a right to be pissed off. How are they not going out and like, what does Drury want for, for pro check? Obviously, the ask was, was ridiculous. I don't know, man, like he did it with Rotten. It didn't work out last year. Like, if they don't, if they, if they end up losing and they can't score in the Easter conference finals, it's a fucking joke to joke. Yeah. I just think even like just the lead, the lead up, the build up of you're going to trade throw check. He's getting scraps. And then you don't do it. It's so crazy to me. Yeah. And, and Carolina has a shitload of prospects. Right. What are the center ace for, for Carolina? Do you say cocktail to Niammi second? I'm going to puke. No. He, right now they got stank, hold when it says playing set concept, but still he's not a natural center. I mean, he's not a, he's not a second line centerman in the NHL. Then you got Jordan stall. I still like that third line. Yep. A long way. He's great. Yeah, possesses some speed. And then, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, Jankowski, who I think currently might be on the IR. And then, uh, yeah, and then I think two nights ago or something. So he, he was playing, I think the fourth line center. All right. One game. I saw. Yeah. Yeah, I just, I don't know. He said it like Florida's out, your nemesis is out. You have to fucking be all in. I know. I think you, you, you need a troche there. I, I've shocked the troche didn't get traded. Yeah. Magic and Robbie Thomas and fucking, they had all about him. I know. Yeah. It's just, it's weird. Now, they still got a great team. But, but guys, if we're going to say, uh, uh, Tampa, Carolina, Buffalo, say, Montreal, those four are in. You guys see Columbus, Ottawa, getting in there. Do you think it's Pittsburgh and Boston and, and Detroit, like how we, can you make your mind open? I'm hoping it's Ottawa. I want more Canadian representation and buddy, that, that is a, that is a good team up front. That is a really good team. I think that federaling, federaling guy, the human cigarette machine, I think they had him slaughtered on the fourth line. He talked about fogal. They're big. They're fast. A great center race, who they got stutzle cousins and, uh, uh, Pinto parlay up the middle. That's a great one. Two, three, um, you know, Brady could chuck in the muck. Like who else? Bath or sin? They got fucking good forwards, man. The Bruins blew that game today, man. They ended up losing it over time. That's, I think, I think Ottawa can catch the Bruins if anything. If I had to make one pick, uh, the way it is now, Ottawa will catch the Bruins. They're five points behind with one game in hand to the Bruins. It's four. Oh, unless it has been updated from the point the Bruins got, I think there's a chance that Pittsburgh misses playoffs. Yeah, because Columbus is three points, Columbus is three points behind Pittsburgh. the pitch. That's a big win right there. They need to get Gino back. They need to get sit back. Thank God they got Gina. Oh, yeah, Benz. I'm seeing the highlights of Tampa Buffalo right now. So there's, there's 98 penalty minutes already in that game. There's five minutes left in the second period. Who did parry fight? Who is that on Buffalo fight and parry? Oh, there was, there's a bunch of them. There was, let's see. Thought he said it was Malenskis. Guys, can we talk about Zucker scored again? Nasty insane pass by Dalin. No look. Zucker is, he scores every game, every game I look, he scores. Perry fought Malista back Malista. What a race we're gonna have coming down to the end. Merl's Columbus plays Boston two more times this year. How did you get that, Mr. Rogers? How did you get that? He's got 15 teams and he's got. Hey, don't fucking disrespect Mr. Rogers with that thing on your head. First of all, I would never, you said, number two, I picked two teams that I'm going to be hopping on the wagon. And I know I just said that I think that there's a possibility they could miss. Pittsburgh Penguins is one of the teams I will be rooting for. Oh, no, no. I'm not disclosing my other team right now. Pittsburgh Penguins. It's a playoffs, boys. It's very done. Gina is not even going to come back. This was his sweater. He sent it to me. Wow. Tuesday, Wisconsin chick lets you Tuesday, 2 p.m. Eastern, Joe Pavellski, a big cat. Mark Johnson, a bunch of cameos for G said the coal center is incredible. And biz, this is, this is interesting. You'll be at the Gargoyle's game because if I'm reading this correct, Doyle's party. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Doyle, the Gargoyle, my boy. We're going to be going to the Gargoyle. Why are you laughing? If you're getting a birthday party from Doyle party at the century last year with the technical a rainbow to Doyle. Doyle said you're on a caulk ring for me, too. Okay. I'm reading one, too. Yeah. So we're going to be actually, we're going to do something fun for the season ticket holders. We're going to have a little thing going on. And we're going to be handing out cake to the season ticket holders to thank them for their loyalty to the team. And I just figured they wanted me to come back for another game. I said, Oh, well, I'm sandwiched between TNT appearances. I'm going to be out ease. So why not go there and also go go down and hopefully see the boys. Because last time when we were there, we were doing sandbagger with page dropping piss bombs. And we weren't able to get there in time to order to say hi to them. And then we had to go right afterward. So I'll go hang out with the team. And they're probably like, what the fuck are helmets and sticks, man? Like, oh, God, we haven't had a day off in a month. They all they gave us with these caulk rings. They got caulkable. We'll handle it. Happy birthday. Happy birthday. We got the operating ones. We're going to love it. We'd rather Aqualini owners than you pissing out. You be. I could see Doyle bringing in buoy for your birthday. Not a chance. Not a chance. He knows there could be some shenanigans getting planned for you right now. I love that Mr. Roger sweater. I can't believe this incredible tag sent it to me very, very jealous, very jealous but I'm going to see you on Tuesday with I'm coming in the Boston. So maybe I don't know if I'll come by the Whitney residents, but I got I got lunch planned at Tonys with Mr. Rice himself. And then we're going to the game LA Kings, business old franchise, first the Boston Bruins. And we're looking for goals. So hopefully, hopefully I see nice smart greatest bar before the games and then greatest bar pregame. I'll be there. Gee, Mr. Ice, the ice people. So it's going to be a good time PJ our producer. So it's going to be a good time. So if you're in the Boston area, come find us. Um, we basically talked about every team. Uh, Winnipeg. Yeah, I like that. They obviously got rid of stan coven all says they're making the playoffs. I think they're going to get in. I like they won three in a row now. They think they got five more home games on this little stretch coming up here. And I think they can I think they can steal a spot. I my fault. I said, um, stan coven. I met Logan Stanley and, uh, and and Shen out the door. They they of the teams like, let's say they miss playoffs. They're like the only team who would make playoffs who would have like a foundational goalie. I would consider more to see to be a number, a true number one D trifles and they got trifling and Connor, like they got Adam Lowry, great leader, great, you know, so they got they got a solid foundation. The only problem for them though, nobody's going there. You're not getting any free agents, right? So viewers ends up going out the door. They missed that speed. How do they replenish and become relevant unless they're drafting and developing properly. Perfetti has not panned out the way that they expected. And they've been so good that they never get a high pick. They don't really have a great prospect pool at all. So they're they're kind of in one. They might have to go back to Phoenix. I think they might have to move. All right, guys. Murr, we appreciate you hopping on Tuesday. Thanks for having me. Two Pakistan chickens you Wisconsin. Yeah, wait two p.m. On Tuesday, we got the new chicklets you coming out Wisconsin is just an unbelievable place to play college hockey Madison Wisconsin that downtown right on the lake. It was actually pretty cool. We got to meet some of the guys in the club hockey team as well. So we went over to their giant frat house right on the lake. They played this big massive pawn hockey game every year where they raised tons of money for cancer research. So that was awesome to see. Cole Center is awesome. Like he said, we have tons of cameos in the mix. We also have Cole Caulfield get in the mix too. So noted Wisconsin alum. So just an awesome time. Cole Center 15,000 people can fit in that arena. It's an NHL barn. Just the facilities are absolutely insane. My case, things just an awesome, awesome coach and awesome, awesome guy. So very happy that they let us come in and film this and shout out to Joe Pilatechuk for doing the video with us. And yeah, I think I think everyone's going to really love this one. It's one of the best ones we've done. And Biz, if you're in Greensboro, the Gargoyles game Friday for Doyle and business joint birthday party caulquings included Tuesday night Boston. Do you want to comment more on this boy? Why don't you what do you get? What do you got? Yeah, you fucking smile in your ear right now. I'm looking forward to the picture. I want to see the picture. I just think it's so funny that Doyle's throwing you a birthday party couldn't be more fitting that a fucking East Coast league mascot is throwing business, the a birthday party. I didn't get invited. I didn't get invited at the party's night, but there were two busy going on Milan. So we couldn't get them there with the with the fence dirt and the and the Winnebago. So we had to we had to elect for Doyle, the Gargoyle Cochrane giveaway night on business. He's birthday. I love you guys, Mark. We're chasing goals, baby. Yep. See you Tuesday. 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