South Africa Sessions: Staring Down Death Twice in One Week ft. Khaya Dlanga
1h 39m 24s
The transcript blends personal storytelling with cultural critique, exploring themes of accountability, tradition, and human behavior. The narrative begins with a humorous anecdote about a mother's shock at Dolly’s pre-planned funeral, illustrating a sense of control and routine. This shifts to a vivid account of a life-threatening bike accident, where the physical trauma is balanced with reflections on survival and memory. A central theme emerges through the cultural significance of South African taxi stickers—simple, witty, and deeply rooted in everyday interactions, symbolizing social norms and humor. The conversation expands to a serious critique of institutional failure, particularly in commissions like Madlanga, where repeated arrests fail to lead to meaningful consequences. It contrasts this with South Africa’s flat organizational culture, which may reduce errors due to open communication, especially in aviation and public services. The piece also highlights the emotional power of rituals—such as funeral singing and church traditions—where communal rhythm and storytelling create strong bonds. These moments, like singing "Singene Jerusalem," are not just entertainment but acts of memory and healing. Ultimately, the transcript reflects on how small, seemingly mundane cultural practices and personal experiences reveal deeper truths about society, accountability, and resilience.
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'Cause me and I was there, Kaya, participating,
like, we all said that Dolly died.
So then my mom, she, like, flips immediately.
She goes from, like, mourning the loss, the whole thing,
and then she's like, "Yo, by the way," she's like,
"Did you see that she planned her whole funeral
and, like, rehearsed it?"
And I was like, "What are you talking about?"
She's like, "Yeah, she saw this thing where planned it,
rehearsed it, told everyone what it's going to be,
how she's going to dress, whatever.
She's going to be buried in high heels, whatever."
Then I was like, "Oh, that's cool."
Then my mom was like, "No."
She's like, "What control freak?"
-Summersault one. -Ah!
-Summersault two. -Damn.
Land on my head, on my back, pass out.
Now I'm on the side of oncoming traffic.
Ah.
So I can't hear the.
But this guy's telling me, "You know,
that's why I'll never support informal small businesses again."
Now imagine there's a thing here.
Now I'm this guy.
Nah, bro. There's no swag here.
Here, I'm going to stop at red lights.
Here.
Oh, fuck.
Every few months, there's those pilots who do like a trick
and something, and they fly past the people.
There was the one, did you see the one where they did
the supersonic boom?
You know, when they go like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And they did it too close to the people.
-I like that. -Blew kids away, everything.
You know when things go flying, bro?
People discovered their fathers were actually bald.
If I was a kid, if I was a kid, but yeah.
This is What Now? with Trevor Noah.
Ah, Mpana, let me do the honors.
Let me handle this.
Let me handle this for you, boy.
Let me handle this.
Wow, amazing.
Yes.
Amazing.
Yes.
wait wait wait
wait
if wouldn't I clap
that's the one isn't it
and then if they clap
no we're fine
in fact any clap is fine
the one that comes after the first
but any clap
education for some of us
any clap is fine
I thought you could only clap once
no no no the clap
is just to sing
Claps once means something else
than clapping once.
Yeah, it's claps once.
That's a good one.
I know claps once.
But it's an essay thing.
You clap once, right?
Yeah.
Because it's like,
yo.
Is that only a South African thing?
Yes.
Because we're like,
yo.
No, man.
I'm pretty certain in America,
people clap once.
It's not in the context here, Tula.
It's to be like,
yo.
Do the South African one.
Yo.
Which is claps once.
Yeah, that's claps once.
When someone has done something.
preposterous
some stuff
yeah exactly
no you're right
it's the same thing
as we
my man
if you do that
in America
yeah
you stop
all conversations
you stop
all
conversations
I've been in
serious conversations
with people
delicate conversations
and serious ones
and then I make
the mistake
of doing that
finish bro
people just stop
I'm sorry
sorry Trevor
can you
what just happened there
What just
What just happened there
Are you
Was that your hand
Are you holding something
What are you doing
That
Sam
Sam
Do you explain
Yeah
But it like derails meetings
Then
I'm not even lying
It completely throws everything off
Save it for when you testify in congress
Ne
That is funny
That would be dope actually
That would be amazing
Sitting in front of the senate
Yeah
And Mr. Noah
Where did the money go
So
Okay the money came in
Ne
Next thing you know
Yatsi
Then they're like
Wait, wait
That's your car
That's
That's
That's your partner
Next thing
Debit order
Next thing
Car
Next thing
Next thing
Senator
Let me not lie to you guys
Senator
International sweeps
That's going to last forever
Senator
Next thing
Next thing
Next thing
Senator
Let me tell you something
I regret
That I stole that money
Only because
I regret I didn't steal more
you know that's a
actually can I ask you a question
because you guys keep up with this
is the Madlanga commission
because in America
when you testify
in front of the Senate
almost nothing happens afterwards
every time
yeah I've never really heard
something happening
no almost nothing happens
when the big banks came
and testified after
after the recession
when they created that
you know the recession
with the default house
what was it called
default did what yeah credit swap whatever yeah i forgot it's called but yes yeah when they did
that yes they went and testified and then nothing too big to fail um when um when the social media
giants went to testify nothing happens to those guys nothing nothing happened you just you just
go there and testify i think i think it's performance of of accountability without
actually the consequences of accountability and i think that's what they do yeah but i'm
So now, I'm asking, do our commissions have teeth?
Let's say, yes.
Yes, do they have teeth?
Yes, people have been arrested.
There's a guy.
Yeah.
There's one guy, I think, who's been arrested seven times.
Well, this is now. You're in the commission.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Wait.
Wait.
Julian's been quite nice.
What do you mean he's been arrested seven times?
He's been arrested.
Bail.
Then. Another case.
And then another case.
Someone else tested liars in the commission.
You're lying.
He's implicated again.
Bam.
Arrested again.
They fetch him again.
Put him in a car.
Bail.
Puts him in the car again.
Bah.
Like, what?
Again, like, one, two, three, four, five now.
We're at number five.
Number five.
Five different cases.
Do they not go at some point?
I mean, just stay.
Just stay.
And the cop who comes to arrest him
always wears the same uniform.
He wears a red jumpsuit.
Wait, is this televised?
With a hat.
Yes.
You guys are lying.
As shanghain as you can get.
A cop that arrests him.
Yeah, but he's shanghain.
Red jumpsuit with like a red hat that like goes here.
And then he hit a smoke break outside with the cameras waiting for him to. Wait, wait, wait.
Okay, so they bring cameras.
Yes.
With the police.
Yes.
So the news is told ahead of time we're going to arrest this guy.
And then they come there and then arrest the person.
And I think this time around, he even had like when he comes out of the van.
Yeah.
At the back of the van.
I think he's got like this cuffed in as well.
And it's just, he's like out here.
Because now he knows the process.
Wait, so he's got a lunchbox?
Yeah, he's got a lunchbox.
Yeah, yeah.
Like a family meal bag.
Yeah, the family meal bag.
And he's smiling because he's used to it.
Dressed warm.
No belt buckle.
No strings.
Yeah.
Wearing slipping shoes.
Oh, yeah.
Dressed already for prison.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, okay.
So arrested seven times.
But then does that mean something's going to happen?
Well, there are cases that are literally being,
going to process through the courts right now.
Yeah, but I'm saying, have we,
Because the last big one was, it was a Zondo commission, right?
Oh, that was a waste of money.
So nothing happened.
I don't think it was.
That guy, nothing really happened.
Without Zondo, you don't get. Madlanga, yeah.
No, but you only got. Oh, so this is. No, but guys, those are two. Those are very different.
Wait, so Madlanga is the better call soul of Zondo's breaking bad?
Yes, 100%.
Yes.
So now you must remember that at Zondo, it was state capture.
Zondo writes a report, so he. Wait, wait, wait.
Just to refresh my memory.
So, okay, the first commission we had in this country. Yeah.
was, or the big one, the Zonda one,
was because the Gupta
family, that family from India,
yeah, but they were part of it,
and a group of other people, we had
found that the president
or people around him had sold the country
to them, essentially. Yes, through
parastatus. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they had
liquidated the country and sold it to these people,
essentially, power utilities, etc., etc.
Trains. Trains.
That's why our infrastructure was, part
of our infrastructure was screwed, okay?
That's what that was for. Yes.
and then what happened so after the commission the commissioner must write a report yeah so now
documents are compiled the report recommendations for people to be charged everything happened yeah
then nothing happened but for that to happen remember you must have um the national
prosecuting authority okay they must press charges okay so the main product actually
something did happen yes what happened i remember now they arrested jacob
but they arrested him for defiance not for state okay okay that okay that is that is also true
that is yeah i guess you're right yeah that's similar you see that's what i mean in america
as well you'll like now you saw anthony fauci oh yeah he's now in more trouble for not testifying
than for what he did or didn't do they're just like no we're coming after you for not testifying
yeah but so i need to i want to zondo writes a report yeah makes recommendations sends the
recommendation to the npa said national prosecuting authority department of justice basically
prosecute these people yeah now they're the state prosecutors that's where they all live
but then it turns out there there was no willingness to prosecute in the first place
enter mkwanaz mkwanaz is like no the police are captured not only the police okay you guys are
building the story nicely for me yeah is mkwanazi the guy that came out the press conference the
- The press conference.
Yo, this was one of the most gangster things I've ever seen.
'Cause I just saw a video
where this top cop came out with no-
- Warning, nothing.
- Warning.
- It was a Sunday, we were chilling.
- Everyone was chilling.
- Still in bed.
- That Sunday was the best.
Best Sunday of my life.
- Dude, and that guy is the one,
He just came out and he held the press conference
and he said by himself, he was like,
guys, the police are corrupt.
corrupt yeah the police the people the police report to are corrupt i can't report this to
my superiors because they're corrupt yeah and the people under me are corrupt and the people
to the sides of me are corrupt my wife is corrupt and the wife was like yeah yeah and then it's
that the judges are corrupt the judges are lawyers are corrupt yeah prosecutors are corrupt so this
all came from that yes came from no ways so when they when they dig deep on at idac which is
supposed to investigate malfeasance in the police yeah and the npa they find out these when when
cahoots not to prosecute people so those cases the state capture they're the ones who are supposed
to prosecute them they didn't and then npa cartels were involved now drugs coming in what do you mean
cartels like what do you mean like south african cartels yeah like we have american drug cartels
no man what are you guys are lying okay well guys i've been gone for like a few years what's
happening here man wait wait wait wait wait wait wait can i tell you i want you to tell me
so let me tell you let me tell you as i feel like you guys are at my commission
what's been happening here guys oh um wait what's been happening here i i i can i and that's how
people can have their yeah what did they say uh i revoke i revoke what not i invoke my right to
remain silent yeah that's that's what you can invoke that one why not i'm getting out here we
don't have the fifth amendment so in america it's actually the 35th in south africa 35th when we
have it it's the 35th but you say the right to remain silent yeah not to incriminate yourself
yeah that one you can only incriminate yourself yeah that one you can only incriminate yourself
yeah that one you can only invoke the right not to incriminate yourself if there's a criminal case
against you okay so you have to say i'm accused for this thing and i'm being prosecuted then you
can't but the right to remain silent only works when you are being arrested so as you're being
arrested yeah you can say yeah i have the right to remain silent not to incriminate myself yes no
the right to remain silent is when you're being arrested it doesn't stop you from arresting you
yeah it just stops them from questioning you oh okay because remember that when you're being
arrested okay even someone's saying to you ah why did you do that okay got it and then you reply
yeah that's already part of your statement yes that's why that's why you're not because it's like
it's it's against what your counsel might have told you to say or not so you must just keep quiet
but it's different if you're in like court now in court you can say i invoke the right not to
incriminate myself however even okay but now guys can we even then there's a blanket but wait can we
talk about this for a second yeah like okay here we don't have juries yeah i'm not gonna lie yeah if i
was on a jury i would have been arrested yeah i would have been arrested yeah i would have been arrested
jerry twitter let me tell you something i wish south africa had juries south african juries
would be the would be the most gangster juries in the world yeah in the world because if you
have you seen footage of american juries yeah they just sit there sometimes they scribble
sometimes they're right here in south africa we'd have people be like yo
you
you
you
that's very true that is but we've we've had the version of that with um i call it legal twitter
yeah i'm listening when those people that speak on whatever is happening at the commission
we have great minds there oh that's true i mean we're all graduated with llp's cum laude
it's so funny even i'm going to a graduation this afternoon of my own yeah online because
you're so funny so funny and i should say this right there is i saw a comment on twitter yesterday
because you guys remember i said i'm going to a graduation this afternoon of my own yeah
i remember like yes yes the springboards were playing the all blacks yeah yeah and those planes
you know and my man okay
so a comment wait wait wait wait wait what the planes and then no we'll come back
yeah yeah come back yeah yeah yeah so so this comment says this guy says okay uh today we're
all pilots tomorrow we'll all go back to being lawyers
yeah
we're good at this thing okay but yeah
i am not a pilot but you know what i am i'm so relieved yes i am a driver
and as a driver and a good one i aim to avoid obstacles yeah i'm just saying yeah
i was unaware that it is safe and normal
mm-hmm to fly through
the green poof plume of smoke like if you here's my thing you know the way those planes flew over
the stadium yeah i i wouldn't have thought oh they're high they're low they're not it's because
that one flew through the room and then made a turn and like a hard turn yeah i won't lie to me
that didn't look like it was the correct thing to do to me that didn't look like it was the correct
thing to do to me that didn't look like it was the correct thing to do to me that didn't look like
height
it was the correct height maybe for the stadium because it didn't hit the stadium yeah yeah but
i don't know that anyone would flan would plan to fly through plumes of pink smoke that thing
looked like the most expensive gender reveal in history that's what that thing looked like
did you see that thing right i mean like that yeah it's so funny when i was watching the game
like on tv live and i was like and and i was like and sasha was just about to kick off and then they
told him to wait because the fly over was they were still waiting for the plane right yes and
then i was like ah i remember making this comment it's like ah these guys are late you know as the
plane is they're coming through and i saw nothing wrong i was like yeah yeah because i'm used to it
right it happens but that i've never have you ever seen them fly that low yeah the flag you have yeah
the flyover is i have i have actually a picture when like global citizens yeah but then like you
are backstage so you would have seen this but one flew and it's like it feels like it's so close it's
so low it's just our thing in south africa you can just touch it like i was there i think i can touch
this thing i think this might have been actually the smallest fly over plane wise because those
were embryos yeah those were maybe that's why they could fly so low because they were embryos they
weren't um seven four seven yeah they weren't seven four seven or seven three seven but isn't
is it is it the first time we were flying too yeah because i think yeah it's because they're always
flying because they're small because i think it's and i think that's what this is it's a link yeah
it's not a it's a link is like a regional carrier it's not a long haul international carrier yeah
oh they were like we're going to show you talking about them but i think the turn is what i mean
but i think it's the turn that got people talking if he had gone through the plume it's not that
turned do not that they're completely they're saying that it's so low they're saying i don't
know what feet are but in america they're saying what is it like they said 50 feet 50 feet it was
50 feet which is how do they know which is 14 meters 14 meters from like no you're the roof
of the stadium because from the yes because the plane they have to tell you where the plane every
plane you know it's high the flight plan has to yeah but guys traffic control in cape town would
have never approved that height if it wasn't okay within the league that's in the flight plan
that's not what people are arguing people are saying did those pilots hit the correct height
yeah but there's no way that they could not what do you mean because they are flying a machine
that tells them ten thousand five thousand my man have you heard of plane crashes
yeah but this guy you're gonna act like but there's no turns yo week in and week out there
are professional pilots who fly those like those jet exhibition things and like every few months
there's a crash okay if there was one every few months there's those pilots
who do like a trick and something and they fly past the people there was the one did you see
the one where they um they did the supersonic boom you know yeah and they did it too close
to the people yeah i like that blue kids away everything you know when things go flying bro
people discovered their fathers were actually born if i was a kid
wait wait
yo that is the enemy of a toupee son don't play games
i want to divorce you know there's some bits where you're like i wish i thought of that
wait if it was a 737 747 yeah flying on its own yes then that happened it went too low i believe
yeah two planes going low at the same time yeah smaller ones yeah yeah but i'm saying it couldn't
have been a mistake oh you're saying okay you're saying because two were at the same height yes
okay then i'm with you yeah then you are you actually thank you yeah this commission i'll
write a report i agree with eugene fantastic argument thank i i mean with all right but also
like two professional pilots or cabins making the same mistake with co-pilots on board no no no no
four people now i'm completely in agreement with you now yes 100 say this uh remember outliers
malcolm gladwell yeah so in his book there he specifically speaks actually about
safety protocols and all that when it comes to airlines yeah because he was talking about like
south korea used to have like a lot of crashes yeah number of crashes and one of the reasons
that happened was because the pilots the co-pilots because of the hierarchy you know hierarchy yes
yes yes the co-pilot you were not allowed to tell your boss about chef captain you're going to kill
us now yeah so you have to imply and they must figure out what you're trying to say so you can't
really tell jong are you going to kill us right but then and they found that the countries that had
hierarchy high rates of hierarchy yes you were more likely to have crashes
than countries that did not and south africa flat structure yeah south africa
does not
it's not that we don't respect authority
we question authority and because South Africa
questions authority we have one
of the lowest fatalities in the world
and you know what
forget our co-pilots
here the people in the front row are like
hey check check check
hey pilot pilot
watch watch watch
hey mountain mountain
okay sharp
check check check
hey hey
okay you saw it
you saw it
I'm just making sure
have you ever seen do you remember in taxis
there was literally a sticker that said
there was because you remember
taxi drivers had the stickers
there was the to know me does not mean you must not
pay then there was the when days
are dark friends are few
I love your perm
but not on my window
and then one of the other
ones
this taxi can stop anywhere at any time
yes yes
yeah
you don't remember that one
no that one
this taxi can stop anywhere
I think we still need it today
yeah yeah yeah
but there was one
that used to say
it was something to the effect of
just because you are in the front seat
seeing something with me
does not mean you are driving this taxi
it was something
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
that's true
because people in the front seat
would always be like
because now you're sitting right next to the taxi driver
and remember
taxis in South Africa
they're not like normal cars
in that there's no hood
it's just like yeah
so you it's like being in the front seat
of a roller coaster
yeah actually yeah
you know what I mean
so everything's here
so then everyone next to the taxi driver
would be like
then taxi drivers are like
nah bruh
hey just because you're sitting here
doesn't mean you're driving
so they'll put that sticker on the dashboard
yeah
for the passenger in front
there were lots of them
remember there was the other one that says
my name is not donkey driver
yeah
yes
you don't remember these stickers
bruh there were so many
I could have made a killing
there were so many
we could have back in the day actually
oh there were so many
and they were amazing
that was like some of the first comedy
I learned actually in my life
was the stickers that I saw in taxis
because as a child
I used to look at them and be like
yo
if you asked me
when I was five or six years old
who's your favorite comedian
I'd say the stickers on taxis
best gags I've ever seen in my life
bruh remember
who was coming up with those things
did you not take taxes
all the time
but do you remember
I mean I went out going to taxis
I minded my business
there was even a sticker for that
do you remember
there was a
so you had stickers that went in
all different places right
so there were stickers that were
specifically for the front passengers
there were stickers that were for
above the door
above the door
on the overhead yeah
then there were stickers that were
at the overhead
facing all the passengers
then there were stickers
outside on the back of the taxi
for people behind the taxi
for people behind the taxi
the stickers that were in the front
those were generally geared
towards the front passengers
telling you a few things
so for instance
it was
must count the man
yes you're not driving
you're counting
yeah
then there was another one
which was
oh it was the one of
no fat people allowed
yes
remember that one
yeah no fat people
you don't remember the sticker
they said no
no fat people
in the front
you don't remember that sticker
yeah that's a great way
we're gonna start saying that
my man
you remember it
there was a
so there was a sticker
and it had
it had
two
fat people
yeah
and the driver
like this
i remember this so well
and then the sticker
basically was like
yo bruh
no you must know
whether you sit in the front seat
or not
you must know yourself
yes
yeah basically
to thine own self be true
they were like
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
you came out your house
knowing your weight
don't add surprise
here at the front
yeah
so like they
so they had
so those were all the stickers
in the front
what about slamming the door as well
so that
yeah
but the slamming the door
one that was above the door
yeah
yes
so it was something
to the effect of
those were new texans
no man
what did it say
it said no
the doors used to fall out
no i know i'm joking
i'm just saying that
remember like
because those texans guys
the freaking doors fell out
all the time
but that's why they said
don't bang the door
don't slam it
guys
if you slam it
but the problem was that like
the door would fall off
if you slam it
but then there were some
if you didn't slam it
the door couldn't close
yes
so you had to slam it
so no no no
there's technique
there's technique
so if you slam the door
it falls off
okay
so what you do with the bad ones
is
you're supposed to
slide hard from the beginning
while
but at the end
you must push it in
ah yeah i remember
i remember the technique
no i remember
yeah
now people would just slam forward
then it would derail
and then the door would fall off
and then the funniest is
they would just leave
yeah
those people never stayed around
who would
and then if you're sitting by the door
it's your job now
yeah to fix it
yeah
and that was the shittiest scene
and now there's a door
that rickety one
remember that rope
yeah
now there's a rope
that rope
now the rope is your responsibility
now the texan driver's telling you
to pull the rope
so that you can now get
the door back on
now you're lifting a door
brad at this point
you're 10 years old
what am i doing with my life
and you're being shouted
over the shoulder
yeah
so there was
so there were those ones
and then there was
the stickers on the windows
that gave you general etiquette
there was another one
about speaking loud
i know
i don't remember
there was a sticker
there was also a music one
yes
but like
yes
but you can request
yeah
yes
don't request music
don't request music
and then there was
some people would tell the texan
tell the texan driver and say
oh can you play this song
yeah no
it's like
listen
i'm not a dj
i'm a driver
there were a lot of them
simi can you look them up
and see if you can find any
the exit one at the back
no one has ever used
that emergency exit
okay but you tell me
because i used to look at this
all the time as a kid
you tell me
who
that thing says kick
my man
look how i'm sitting
and you're sitting
this is more space
than i've ever had
in the backseat of a taxi
okay
now
and where your head is
is where the emergency exit
is
the window starts
now you tell me
yeah
in what world
some shit goes down
so now we're in the taxi
we're there
now i'm there
ah
we can't get out the front
hey
go out the back side
hey
put my emergency exit
kick
here
there's no hammer
there's no
they didn't give you anything
yeah
they said kick here
guys not punch
not header
not push
it said kick
here
who
my man
what jetty life am i living
that i'm gonna kick this window
guys
the seat was here
also
yes now that you say that
the seat was here
this kicking thing
why is it that when there's a car accident
shoes are everywhere
why is it that when there's a car accident
it's a good question
yeah
all right
this is a good question
i was in during a car accident
even if you got bumped by a car
yeah shoes but socks are on
shoes are always like yeah
yeah shoes leave the chat first
yeah
why
i've never known
i think it's because maybe as people
when we're in like a very very
when whenever humans are in a situation
no whenever humans are in like a very like
exciting stressful situation
i think our feet like do things
ah nah
i'm telling you
every accident nigga
there's shoes everywhere
yes yes
i've always wanted to use that word
you used it correctly
strewn everywhere
all sorts
shoes
you're not wrong
shoes with no socks
you're not wrong
why
and i'm saying
there for us
and i'm saying it's because
what is the impact
i'm saying it's because
like you do like a
there's like a
thing that you do
they just don't tie their shoelaces properly
my man why are you blaming them now
no it's the shoelaces
so you think every time people are just running around without tight shoelaces
i think so
people are not getting the proper shoelaces
it makes no sense
wait if it was one type of shoe
yeah
that just flies out
eugene is completely correct
pillar there you see flip-flops
you see pumps
you see boots
no eugene eugene's not lying
yeah but
yeah
remember whenever you are stressed
the shoes are too big
your toes curl
and the shoes are either too big
no no no
oh
so you say accidents expose your shoe gains
exactly
no but remember this whenever you are tense
yeah
your toes do that turbo holding onto your shoes
yeah
yeah
in an accident high impact
yeah
your your toes are already doing that automatically
that's your that's your butt clinch for your feet
uh-huh
like this thing for your toes
i'm trying to think
is butt clinch for your
you understand what i'm saying
but maybe that action pulls the foot out of the shoe
no but if my shoes are too big and i do this my shoes stay
yeah it's it's a difficult one i don't know i mean my mom used to tell me that all the time
no she'd say like
that's why you must make sure you wear shoes like this
that's why you must make sure you wear socks that have no holes and clean underwear
then she's like because if you get bumped by a car those are the two things that are gonna show
your underwear
then i was like mom what are you telling me here
then she said in an accident i'm not even joking she'd say in an accident
in an accident she'd say everyone's gonna see your socks because your shoes come off
and then she was like and everyone's gonna see your underwear because that's another thing
when you get hit by a car for some reason your pants always come here and then your ass is exposed
it's true though
have you ever been hit by a car
no jesus
have you
no
have you
no no never
i've been in a bike accident yes
motorbike
yeah yeah
when was this
wait you're riding
two years ago a day after my birthday
you're lying
you didn't tell me
yeah he was embarrassed
when that rough money comes in my man there will be signs
road accident fans
there will be signs
wait
are you being serious
yes
what how did that how did it happen
can we first deal with this one yeah okay we'll we'll come back i think i was embarrassed
no no no it was a it was a
oh okay you want to know what happened no really yeah so i was writing dude we've written for years
you never told me that story oh we wrote for you yeah this is yeah because you know also you never
tell these things because all praise to the almighty allah if it wasn't for him
what happened bro so i rode out normal day in the afternoon came out cedar went at the back
behind this place yeah see that roadway yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah went
so i'm like oh it's clear i can go so it's two lanes going this way two lanes going the other
way yeah you know if there's one thing about squatter camps and informal settlement it's
called informal for a reason okay i see okay yeah for many years i've been
guys defending you from informal there's nothing formal about what that person did yeah yeah
yeah yeah there was no robot there was no stop sign there was nothing came out of that school
it's a teacher came out oh no in a red in a red haval suv oh no so i've already passed her on
yeah took the right turn so i'm like i know i'm fine here so i'm like
so i'm like 120 i'm like but i'm clear i can see far as far as i could because i'm going yeah
ducked in everything you know when you tucked in everything this car comes out of nowhere
goes on the road on the lane that i'm coming on no but came fast and then stopped in the middle
of the road because he's trying to she's trying to go the opposite direction so the car's coming
this way she waited for them the other side of the two lane then in that situation pair there's
only two things you can there's two teams involved there are two teams involved so wait so then the
car flies so the car pulls up yeah then i'm thinking this person's gonna stop so i'm on this
far right lane right in the middle of between the two borders oh my goodness so i swerve to the right
left thinking that they're obviously gonna i'm making space so they slam the brakes because
it's a truck coming this way oh my goodness so then i'm like because you know if you so if you
right if if you lock the the rear brake the front becomes light yeah yeah yeah so if you so you must
trail brake basically so you must hit the front yeah and then so hope hope hope hope hope so i'm
hoping hoping i'm hurt but everything is happening in slow motion angels
were there my grandfather was there everyone i knew and loved was there
all singing i was like guys why are you guys singing the same language
smell my breath inside the helmet i knew it was but then i knew i was still alive when i could
smell my because i was like if i'm dead wait that was the next thing you you you like experienced
no no i'm lying about that part everything was just no everything was just in slow motion yeah
because i'm like
head on the t-bone the car yeah so you t-bone the car t-bone and i fly over
somersault one
somersault two damn land on my head on my back pass out now i'm on the side of oncoming traffic
ah so i can't hear the
but there's guys selling you know that's why i'll never
never support informal small businesses again
no
oh my god oh your beef
they were minding their table never mind me i was lying on hot tar this is the 16th of november
two days after my a day after my bed 16th of november i'm lying in a hot tar these guys were
minding their business so finally i come to inside my helmet i'm like oh what's going on
then i'm like why am i looking at the sky why is why am i hot here i get up
bike is t-bone to the car yeah yeah the driver's side oh the bike is in the car yeah it went in
yeah the driver's out came out she came out on the other side now she's towering over me as a
teacher you know she's wearing those teacher skirts she's asking me questions about what was
i thinking
i don't have time to think now yeah she asked me what what were you thinking i'm like i don't know
who you are i don't know what's going on and why is my bed so hard can't be an accident that
happened wow so i look around i'm finally going okay let me do check because i need to know the
rules yeah you must first check if your neck is fine because you can cause more damage so i try
move my feet first and i'm like okay feet can move
yeah i'm like hands can move then i'm like okay i'm gonna try twist my back without turning my
neck twist my back twist my back i'm like i'm grand then i get up undertaker style yeah then
where i am versus where the bike is maybe they're where the tables are that's where the bike is and
the car so i went all the way opposite direction of oncoming traffic i get up then i'm all good
again where were your shoes
you
i'm glad you're okay though yeah i'm also glad i'm okay so it's the helmet that obviously
helped you as well i think it was god i think it was the fall because you hit your your head
first like yeah but hit the helmet yeah yeah and then because you also wearing your jacket yeah
jacket yeah but that's okay i'm glad you're okay i'm glad you're okay i'm glad you're okay i'm glad
those things are not helped the thing is if you break or fall properly on a bike you survive
that's true so mostly with motorbike accidents people don't get killed by the fall they get
killed by cars running over them yeah they say you don't get killed by the the accident you get
killed by what happens after the accident like hitting the wall or hitting another car or
hitting something or cars running over you after you fall in oh my so i survived i got up and then
two days later i was going to a shoot i was in the back of an uber relaxing minding my business
wow
huh the car was rammed at the back no i flew i hit the drivers
i don't want to laugh but you're like are you serious
are you serious you know how production managers care about the shoot only
guys i met an accident you're like yeah so we are figure mind you no you're lying i'm telling you
no oh my goodness a week later i was like no i'm fine i'm fine i'm fine now then i can film
numbness on my back numbness on my back i'm like no i'm not fine
went for it
it was the accident and then that like by yeah they're being rammed from the back
in two days if you if you were telling this to your american friends they'd be like man
eugene you were super unlucky if you tell me to your african friends they'd be like
somebody was trying to kill you there is some witchcraft somewhere in their world and somebody
was trying to kill you i hope you prayed after that i prayed i i was like yo
there's no way you survive something like that you think everything is normal
don't press anything we've got more what now after this the reason your life flashes before your eyes
before you die is because your brain is searching for any um memory that could save you from this
oh
which makes me think when you
die do you know it's happening when you die do you know what do you know you're dying or do you know
you're dead let's say for example yeah you die in your sleep you see when people say people die
peacefully in their sleep yeah you've slept and you've remembered that you were sleeping now when
you wake up you're like oh there was this one time i went to go pee yeah yeah where when you die while
you're asleep yeah when do you know as a sleeping person that you're dead you know what great person
to answer that would have been jesus john because he's the only person who came back he came back
you know about that thing no one ever saw him walking out of there you're not wrong
but no one wrong no one saw him it would have been great if people were just a little more
curious about those kinds of things just tell me no dude so what um no no good to have you back
yeah really good to have you back that was crazy yes because judas yo i mean yo i mean we knew he
was sus but damn bro damn wow judas because look if if but listen to me i'm not gonna lie to you
listen i have a question like right afterwards where where are you like where where were you for
those three days how does it feel so when he died like how did it feel like how did you know my
friend eugene wants to know yeah because yes you know i heard i heard something the other day i
don't know where it was it was really it was just really fun and fascinating might have been in an
anime i was watching or something but they were like they're like the reason your life flashes
before your eyes before you die is because your life flashes before your eyes before you die
your brain is searching for any um memory that could save you from this moment oh you're scrolling
through your like literally your that is your final survival instinct so just before you die
your body's like your everything going like wait wait wait is there a way to escape this is there
is there something i've learned somewhere in my life that can help me escape this they it was just
a hypothesis and i like me there's two things that happen yeah i go to the bathroom at night
and then also my nose gets dry so i usually put like
vaseline in my nose okay that's how i know i'm still alive uh okay
I'm like
Kaya the day
Yo what
The day my nose
Feels moisturized
Throughout the night
I don't need to put
Vaseline to make sure
This is your
I didn't go pee
This is your
This is his
What's it called again
Ah man
This is your inception
Yes
This is your inception
That's your totem
Yes
Eugene is like
When my nose
Is not dry
Yeah I'll know
I'll know
This is not reality
Even on a flight
I'm like
Then I'm like
Yes this is sharp
Because the day
The day
Throughout the night
Fully moisturized
No dry
You know that dry part
Of the back of your
Siders
Yeah yeah yeah
I know exactly which part
You'll know you've moved on
Yeah I'll know
The day
I'm breathing easy
I'm moisturized
Man you know what would be
So funny to do to Eugene
To prank him
To prank him
We
We find where he's sleeping
We hide humidifiers
Extra
Humidifiers
We make him sleep
Through the whole night
Moisturized
Then he wakes up
The next day being like
Ah I guess I'm dead
And then we
He just moves through the world
Here we see Eugene
Running naked
He can't see me
Damn
You just came back
From a funeral didn't you
Yes yes in Switzerland
How was it
I say it like it was a gig
Sorry
That's so funny
It was fantastic
No
I didn't mean it like that
I didn't mean it like that at all
What a great show
You know black people say
What else could you have done
No but that's what I mean
So it's hard to ask it in English
That's true
Because how was it
Is the correct translation
Yes
But if you say it in Venek
If you say like in Zulu
If you go like Benjan
Or like
Begenjan
Begenjan
Like you would go
It's more like
How did it unfold
How did it turn out to be
As opposed to like
How was it
Because what you say is like
Usually people would say like
We have put him
Yes
Or her
The direct translation
Yes
Right
But actually
Because I'd never been
To a funeral service like that
In my entire life
Why
What was different
Because in Swatini
There was a DJ
Come on
If you're ready to see this casket
Going to the ground
Let me hear you make some noise
If it
If it
If it
If we
If we
If we
If he is
He ain't
If it going nowhere
But he is though
Did
Did
Did
Yeah
Sorry
So what was different
So the funeral service is there
You have to be buried
Before sunrise
Before the sun rises
Or like in Limpopo
And not only that
So
Which meant
Supposed to be like
At four
In the morning
Okay
Right
And it's like
An hour
Right
The service
The service
The service
You know
Very efficient
Very efficient
Only the people spoke
Was someone read the obituary
Okay
And there was a
A family member
Who
Spoke
Yeah
That was it
Walked out
Went to the graveyard
And
An hour
Done
I'm not mad at that
I
I mean
I was very
I was
And I was thinking
We were having breakfast
Like at
Eight
But breakfast
No more
So
Full on
Full on
You were having
Daytime food
Yeah we're having
Daytime food
Daytime funeral food
For breakfast
Yes that's what we're having
Which was a bit
I was like
Oh this is
This is very amusing
You know what Kai was like
Yeah
Cause that's one of those
Weird situations
Where you gotta be like
Guys guys guys
You're killing me here
Wait sorry
Let me rephrase
What I mean is
I can't live like this
Sorry let me rephrase
Guys
What I mean
Oh hey
It does
Check his cut
Yeah
It does
Very interesting
And I remember
Thank you
I was like
Yes
In the Eastern Cape
We're already having breakfast
It would not have started
The funeral
Didn't started by
So
Did you prefer it
Or did you
Yeah that's
How did you
I did not
You know like
You know
You know
May my friend rest in peace
I didn't appreciate
Waking up so early
I was like
Why
That's the least you can do for him
I was like
Hey this is
It's like you wake up
But they accommodated
I think
People from out of town
They actually made the service
At six
Rather than four o'clock
Just for that
Yeah just for that
But otherwise
I mean
I did appreciate
How quickly
Everything happened
Because when I think about
Hours like
Back in the Eastern Cape
Or Eastern
And they go on
Forever
Like for a long
Long time
So you see
I'm torn on that
Because I think
Both have their merits
So
I think
A short and efficient funeral
Is great
If you're not particularly
Close to the person
Yeah
Right
But like I remember
From my grandmother's funeral
It was weird
Because I watched
My grandmother's funeral online
Because it was during COVID
Right
So I couldn't travel for it
And then
Were the comments open?
If they were
It would have been amazing actually
That would have been amazing
Because I would have been there
In the comments
R.I.P.
G.G.
Doing it
No who's that in row three?
Yo my man should also be
In a box soon man
No I
It actually wasn't
So
But I had to watch it
Which was very
It was a very surreal experience
That is weird
It's the most surreal experience
I've ever had
Because I was watching
People I know
And my family
But in a
On a screen
On a screen
At home
Yes
Because you're at home watching
Yeah
So I'm watching them
And I'm like
You know
But what I
What I noticed was
Because it was long
It was like four hours maybe
Yeah
Four hour service
Did you make snacks in between?
Yeah I took breaks
I was
I
That was the part
That I did enjoy
How did you time
When to go pee
Make a sandwich
When who was talking
Or what was
Probably the singing
Because you can come back
Singing there
No singing
Actually Kai is right
Yeah
Singing is an easy one
Because what would happen is
People would speak
You know like
My grandmother's friends
Would come
People
But then in the middle of
While they're speaking
The person would start singing
Yes
You know
So they'd start a song
Yeah
They'd be like
Ah you know
When I met Francis
We were this old
And we lived together
And this was our time
And the first time
She helped me
And this is how
We knew each other
And what what what what
You know what I mean
And then the person would stop
And they'd be like
And then they'd start singing
Then I'd be like
Oh now you can go
Because I can go do something
And I can hear what's happening
In the background
Yes
Great
Some of the songs
I like stayed for
No some of them
Like the ones that I knew
So the ones that I knew
No the ones that I knew
Were my grand favorite
Yeah
That I had known
Then I would sing those
You know what I mean
Singene Jerusalem
Masangu vulegani
Singene Jerusalem
Masangu vulegani
Singene Jerusalem
Masangu vulegani
You stuck around for that one
Singene Jerusalem
Then I'm
Ah because
That like fully brought
My grand back to me
Sure
Does that make sense
So those ones where I was like
Ah Gogo would be here
Because she used to give me
That little
Maybe it's
Ispampam
Ispampam
Ispampam
Ispampam
What do you call it
Mkamelo
Mkamelo
Yeah
Yeah a pillow
Yeah
But it has a name
Ispampam
Because people invented that
Ispampam
Ispampad
Yeah
But it was the leather
It was a leather pillow
Ispampam is the person
Who's not supposed to sit
At the front in a taxi
So it was a leather pillow
That you had to hit
So that everyone
Could be on beats together
Yeah
It had like a satisfying
They touched metronome
Yeah
Perfect way to put it
It had a beautiful
Thumping sound
Yeah
Like a deep
And as a kid
I used to hit that thing
I would argue that
My sense of rhythm
Is because of that
Makes sense actually
From a young age
Makes sense
Because you had to keep
Rhythm for a long time
My friend
It was like
And you can't mess up
With that thing
Not only that
Not only that
You had
You had to know
How the song is gonna go
Because remember
When we're singing these songs
They always start very slow
Yeah
Because it has to give
Everyone time
To get into the song
Then they start getting
Faster and faster
The BPMs go up
Maybe that's why
I became a DJ as well
So the BPMs go up
Go up, go up, go up
You know the story's
Supposed to go
That's why I became a pastor
And then
And then
You also have to be like
At the end
Because you know what I mean
Because it goes
So when you start
You'll be like
The person starts
With no beat first
Right
So it'll be like
Yes
Then like the men
Will come and lower
Vulegani
Singene
Jerusalem
Masangovulegani
Singene
Jerusalem
Masangovulegani
You see
You gotta keep this
Singene
Jerusalem
Masangovulegani
Singene
Jerusalem
Masangovulegani
And you go
And you'll go
And you control
The tempo
Yeah
But you have to feel
What they're doing
Because I'm a kid
I'm not controlling this
This is the prayer meeting
I'm not controlling this
This is happening
I have to keep this going
But I have to feel
The people
But you're the only kid there
No
Sometimes there'll be like
Two maybe three
But I was the one
Who was doing this
You know what I mean
So I'm there
I'm doing the beat
I have to keep it going
Jerusalem
Masangovulegani
Singene
Jerusalem
What we don't know
Is the slowdown
Symbolizes the ending
The worst thing you could do
Is hit it
Not necessarily the ending
By the way
It could be a
Yeah just the loud
The loud
Because the person might just be like
Sange ne Jerusalem
Ma sango vu legani
And as the rhythm came out
Sange ne Jerusalem
Ma sango vu legani
Sange ne Jerusalem
Ma sango vu legani
Yo, that's how it was!
Don't you have homework?
Hey, my man!
Hey, my man!
You don't know!
Yo, I would be there as a kid watching
People's mouths
Yeah, because I knew
The person who started, I'm like
Because the first few times they hit me with that job
Obviously, I was just beating the thing
Then now, my mom was like
First of all, she's like
You know what I mean?
Who did you take the gig from?
No, from adults
So one day you were hanging around
They were like
Guys, adults used to do that thing
And then I took Ispampam
Which I wasn't supposed to
Because remember, all the church goodies
Were like put away
You know, the things people would wear
Yeah, the bells
Everything was like put away
Yeah, the Ark of the Covenant
Jesus' Shroud
All of it
All of it
It was all put away
It was all put away
The nails from the crucifixion
Everything was
The rock from God
Everything
The rock of Gibraltar
The donkey that Jesus took to Jerusalem
Everything was there
Everything
The present-day test
Everything was at the corner
By the room divider
So we had everything
Everything, it's literally like that
Everything was there
Everything was like that
The specific Bible that we read for that
For those
Was it that leather one?
The leather one
The leather one
So all these things were specific
So Ispampam
You were not allowed to just touch it randomly
My gran would be very lenient to me
So I would
And then I would just walk around the house
Because I was like, there's nothing
Imagine you're a kid, bro
You're like a three, four-year-old
You've got a leather pillow
That you can hit as hard as you want
This is the greatest gift of all time
With a strap behind it
With a strap
You'll never lose it
Yeah
Bah, bah, bah
So then
Outside of church
This is not
This is not during church time
It's at home
So then my gran said
My mom would always be like
Like, what?
Stop being naughty
You know what I mean?
Put that thing away
Then my gran said, no
Clearly he has a gift
Encourage this gift of his
Because Ispampam is a very
Like, it's a very stressful job to have
Let him
You know what I mean?
But then my mom was like
Yo, bro
Don't mess around at church
Wait, wait
This feels like
They're much like a communist
Wait, go on
Clarification
We don't know what you were busy with
When Trevor invoked on you
You dropped everything you were doing
But
Like in a church, né?
Yeah
Why is it that kids
Have the most difficult jobs?
Like in the Catholic church
Oh, yeah
That thing
That thing can start fires
With robes
Yeah, that's so true
And wouldn't it be
You chose to give
To give that gig to a kid
The holding of the wine
During the
Yes, yes, yes
And the lighting of the candles
The lighting of the
Yeah
Yeah
So Ukoko
Knew
Yeah
The innocent
Pure souls
Suffer little children
To come unto me
For theirs is the kingdom of heaven
Amen
And forbid them not
So
My gran was like
Yo, man
Instead of
Chastising him for doing that thing
Right
Let him do it then
So now every
In fact
That was the reason
I now started enjoying
Bible service
I was like
Cause I was like
Yo, man
Most of the time
I'm sitting there
Waiting for them to finish
Bro, you're just like
Yo, these prayers don't end
And they used to come
During cartoon time
My man
I wish it was cartoon time
It wasn't even about cartoon time
Cause it was at my gran's house
In Orlando
We didn't have like a TV
In that way
I don't even remember
Us having a TV
So it was at night
Oh, it was one of those
It was the evening ones
Where everyone
All the other grannies
Would come over
For Thursday ones
And then the ones where
Not only that
But remember
They would all throw shade
At each other in the prayers
Do you remember that one?
I remember
Prayer of
Prayer
Guys
Guys
That was the most
Cause I remember
As a kid being like
Cause what they would do
Is they would go
They would pray
They would pray
But they would be like
Oh, Heavenly Father
Up above
Then they'd be like
Oh
Oh, Heavenly Father
We thank you for being here
You know they do the introductions
So my gran would always be like
636 Orlando East
They should give the full address
And even
As a kid I used to be like
Ow
He doesn't know where we are
But can I tell you
I appreciated the humility
Cause I asked my gran once
Not to assume
No, I asked my gran once
I said
God knows everything
Why do you always introduce yourself?
And she was like
Trevor
How busy is God?
Why do I assume
That he knows me?
Let me make his job easier
So I was like
Damn, it's humility
So she would introduce herself
Then they'd pray
But then I would notice
There'd be some grannies
In the prayer circle
Who would throw shade
At each other
Cause we'd all be
Praying
Before the prayers
They'd just talk about life
How are things
What's happening
And then they'd be like
Hey
Hey
My gran's side
And this week
And so everyone would tell stories
Yes, yes
Then the prayer meeting would start
Do the prayers
Read the scriptures
So they're donating the trauma
But then now
When the praying would happen
There would always be some grannies
What they would do is
They'd be praying
They'd pray normally
Then they would just be like
And oh
But wait
You know
Just Heavenly Father
Can we also just pray for
Eugene's mom?
You know
For the tough time she's had
With her son
And
Not all of us
Can have a perfect son, Lord
And we just want to pray
And say
That you know
We ask you to give us
Give her guidance and power, Lord
So that she can try her best, Lord
Try her best
And let the rest of us
Be grateful that we don't have
A son like Eugene
And
Oh
Bruh
And now
Now I'm there like
Because I want to see
I want to see who
I'm like
Who did that?
Then I'm like
Bruh
You'd hear everything
Who's having an affair
Who
Stole money from what
No
Yeah
Who stole the
Stock fell money
Whose kid is failing in school
Who can't pay rent
Who had an affair
Who
Whose uncle or husband is drunk
Who came home
Because marriage did not work out
Yeah
Yeah, exactly
Yeah
And they would all
But they would all like throw it
On behalf of the other person
As if
As if it's a prayer
But I was like
Ah, this is shade, bruh
And then the song would start
And that's when I would come in
And I would nail it
I killed
Bruh
I was absolutely phenomenal
Ah
My timing
Without fail
I would never
Hit his bum bum
After the person is done
And I still judge people
Who do that till this day
And I still judge people
Because sometimes people
Finish singing
And then the person
Will still go
You hear the boom
There's no
No, you failed
You must watch them
You must study their rhythm
And you have no time
Because these are strangers
Was it looking at the lips
Or was it
Knowing
It's a rhythm
It's also learning
It's like in comedy
You learn an audience as well
You know
So you learn
Yeah
They're sort of
Finishing the laugh now
Now you can carry the
Because you don't want to
Throw in more jokes
While they're laughing
They might miss
You get what I'm saying
It's innate
It's rhythm
It's rhythm
What happened to the bum bum though?
It's still there
It's still there
At my grandmother's funeral
There was some other guy
Very unqualified
Very unqualified
When Quincy Jones
Was bum bum
No one will ever be good enough
I'm just going to say
Very unqualified
Quincy's like
Wait so
I think it was like
A random person from the church
Who came with the pasta
He was hitting the same bum bum
This bum bum
It was their bum bum
At least
Yeah no no
It wasn't my grandson
That I could see
My grandson was like
Because you had different ones
I also used to judge people's bum bums
Because sometimes
They'd have like
A really
Like my grandson was
Top
Like real leather
Proper leather
Brown or red
Brownish red
Yeah I know that one
The brownish red one
I know that one
Yeah
Brownish red
And then when she would
Polish it with something
It would go darker
Yes
Yeah so she had that one
With a beautiful sleeve
Yes
Yeah so you could
Slip your hand in nicely
On this side of it
The hand didn't
You know what I mean
Full hand coverage
Oh so it doesn't
The one with the
No no no
Full hand coverage
Okay
Full hand coverage
That is a fancy one
Yeah it was
I had a full sleeve
Full sleeve hand coverage
You were in there nicely
Yeah
All of it was stitched beautifully
Had enough of a border
So you know like
You could flick
You know the border
Where the stitching was
Yeah because the cheaper ones
The stitching just goes
Into the edge of the bum bum
Yeah because it wasn't
Like there was pleather
Yeah so her one
Had the full border of leather
Piping they call it
My man
Yeah the piping
Yeah
And when you
When you'd hit that thing
It had the most
Satisfaction
And then I would go to like
Some other people's
Houses and stuff
They would have like
A thinner one
I hope you didn't do that
Face at people's houses
I did
No guys
I was a pump pump snob
If you ask me to do it
With like the wrong two
I'd be like
This is not
That is so funny
I was like bruh no
You know it's so funny
It's like
You know how you have
Like guitar sharps
And all of that
I feel like you could
Could have opened
A pump pump shop
Yeah I could have
Been that guy
Yo bruh I was a full on snob
When it comes to that
Guys
Full on snob
So you'd go
And then you'd be like
My man
They'd ask me to do it
Like
Cause sometimes you'd pray
At other people's places
And they'd be like
Trevor do you want a pump pump
And I would have already seen it
And I'm like nah bruh
You'd flat like
I know I can't play this thing
No I can't
I can't roll like this
Guys I'm the Jimi Hendrix
Of pump pumps
Now you're giving me
You could have been
At Carnegie Hall
Playing pump pump
I could have been there
Ha, ha, ha, ha.
guys there's two industries i think we have one like the oil industry petrol industry related
and then petroleum jelly vaseline byproduct of that situation hear me out okay yeah the material
the sound closely linked to the same people that did the upholstery for the taxi seats
it did have a similar sound guys those seats had a similar sound i think those seats you talk about
the originals yeah the original original the perforated with the piping yeah yeah the perforated
leather yeah with the sponge if you burn your ass yeah like an ass has never been burned before bruh
the material is the same yeah uh the material is the same except for when it was not looked after
no not the premium yeah premium there was a total that's always said who had that tender somewhere
yeah yeah but the original
the the cheap ones that you used to scoff at they were derivative from that you're all right actually
it was the same why did you never yeah but you you drove it my grand's pom-pom never cracked why
didn't why did texas never have a head rest on the other passenger seats what what head are you resting
oh oh flip no but they no they took that out though it comes with a headrest all of those
out yeah they used to come with yeah you buy the car yeah and you got it no the weight so
how it came is like
we made our own version of it yes but they came with headrests and i think they still even do and
then they you just take that thing out for like a bunch of reasons first of all headrests are not
facilitating people passing money yeah it's easier to pass the money your whole job it's not a head
continental pillow hey my man hey my man my man yeah they pass it hey my man okay do this
do this kaya do this hit the back of you that's all i need no bruh when why is yours covering the
whole entire thing nah bruh also like as a taxi driver you want to sit like this yeah now headrest
here is killing me because this is the middle seat already this i need this room to stake my claim
this is how i roll guys but we know what headrests are for look at me yeah but doesn't matter look at
me look at me they're not this is it yeah yeah this is it bruh
now now imagine if there's a thing here now i'm this guy
nah bruh there's no swag here here i'm gonna stop at red lights
see what i'm saying so the difference between being a responsible citizen
and an irresponsible one is the risk of whiplash in an impact
we've got more what now after this
mr mandela is like ah how are you brett and he's like mr mandela i heard the most amazing
thing today stevie wander was doing an interview yes and he said that song you
know i just called to say i love you yes he wrote it to you
did you find out what the what the story is behind the shoes yeah what is it it's the violence of
the impact it uh really has the human body so that's the force this guy just said it's the
violence of the impact no but i said that yeah yeah i did say wait but there must be but guys
remember there must be something about no but okay but okay let me let me elaborate on what i meant
yes let's go further the reason i'm saying that is because the the thing so the reason no you must
read it no for you yeah no but the reason i'm saying that is because maybe this is why it makes
sense to me shoes are one of the only things that you wear that only come onto your body from one
side even those would come off in an accident that's how babies are made i'm willing to bet
by accident i'm willing to bet i'm willing to bet where's your shirt it has your head
both arms and your torso holding it down your pants have both legs holding it right get what
i'm saying right so i'm just saying it's a lot harder shoes are the only thing where
think of like a passionate night where two people are and you're trying to get into
shoes come off like that yeah everything else is like oh here we go yeah you can kick off your
shoes there's even the phrase yo kick off your shoes yeah yeah you can kick off your shoes yeah
you can't you can't there's nothing else you can kick you can't kick off your pants you can't
there's nothing because apparently paramedics when they reach a scene and they find your toes
sticking out they're like wait really what do you mean yeah because there's no ways your shoes
if an impact takes off your shoes oh you're not they use that as a proxy for interesting yes
yeah read it read it read it read it on your mic shoes come off during severe accidents because
extreme physical forces sudden stopping and violent body movements overcome the hold of the
footway so this makes complete sense you know why because if i think about it as well thank you simi
and one of the times when i would also lose my shoes the most is if i try a sponsula dancing
read all the descriptions there yeah yeah yeah violent movements say them again extreme physical
forces wait wait i'll show you i'll show you on each one extreme physical forces yeah yeah yeah
yeah yes sudden stopping yeah yeah and violent body movements
you laugh but you know what to help people who watch this you must put on a little sponsula video
under me while i'm talking and you must show the feet and everything so people can see
the violence stops the violence and the sudden movements yeah and the
yeah if if your shoes are off it's chai time for you does it there's a funeral when you're at a
funeral does it make you start thinking about your life like because you've been to a lot of
funerals i feel like yeah like it's so funny like literally over the last few years it's like i never
went to funerals and then and then it's just funerals so i it's so funny for me it doesn't
make me think about my own mortality i just think about the person who i'm i'm like oh wow like i
can't be with this person anymore that's beautiful but maybe i don't think about mortality because
i'm like guys i can't be with this person anymore that's beautiful but maybe i don't think about mortality because i'm like guys
why i mean it's all going to happen at some point yeah and i kind of but also partly yes i think i've
said this before partly maybe maybe the reason i don't think about it anymore is because i thought
i was going to die young right and then and then now i've gone past that age where i thought i was
going to die i was like ah okay what limit did you give yourself what i gave myself a limit of 41.
really yes you thought by 41 it would be curtains yes because my father died young at 26. my
grandfather died at 41 and i was like okay i think that you had no record i had no yes and then in
your family there's no pictures of old people no no from my yeah from my dad's side yeah there's
no old people yeah yeah no old people and so that's weird when you're actually never thought
about it your ancestor looks younger than you currently and you have nivia yeah and it's male
figures yeah that's what i'm saying when people are like oh that's my grandfather you're like yeah
i think i was 26 going damn bro yeah then we'll look at you like you've had a hard life yeah
they're like no i've lived twice their age yeah that's crazy which was which was insane and then
i was like yeah i think but then what i found interesting was that i remember reading like a
bill clinton's autobiography and bill clinton wrote and i was like god damn i have the same fear
because his grandfather died young his father died young and he thought i was going to die
that's why he lived like it was his last day and he did they're in the oval office
and uh wilson churchill same thing he also thought i was going to die young
i reserve my right to not incriminate myself depends what guys what do you call again
35th amendment yeah yeah numbing guys and up again
my my my my best bill clinton quote is when he was being i think he had to deposition that yeah that's
what it was and and and and then someone asked him a question and third clinton said it depends
on what a definition of the word is is i was against that that guy and i was like i've never
heard anybody you know you know if i borrow your brain for that i'll say that is a person
who has had a long life of infidelity if i think of like how eugene would think of it because i'm
like that's a person who's like so when you say when you say were were you were you what word
do you mean when you say where where when you say who is she what do you mean by she what does the
word you mean who is she is she as a person who is she to me to her family who is she that's what
that sounds like yeah yeah so what's beyond i need to you live your whole life thinking 45 that's it
yeah then what's beyond 45 i mean 41 what's beyond that beyond what do you replace that it's like it's
confusion oh because you i suppose because you'd set this limit i think for yourself and so uh for
example where i was like i'm not gonna have kids because i'm gonna die young right and then i'm not
to die young right and then now all of a sudden those things are like god damn i'm not dead so
i have to rethink what i'm gonna do you're with my life and every loan you've taken out
because you were sure you were leaving kyle was a big boss out there put it on my loan account
this is 36 months kyle was like put it on i was like i'm outie kyle was like how many months
oh yeah 24 month contract i got it and now and now they're like hey so guys let me show you a
picture of my grandfather so this is my grandfather i know what you're thinking i know what you're
thinking i was only using sunlight so i actually didn't know that so so a lot of how you planned
or how you were living your life is because you assumed is that i mean not why you're so outgoing
and so like gregarious but damn
damn
before we carry on because i want to put gregarious over your head now
gregarious is an adjective that means fond of company sociable or tending to live in groups
does not not describe you perfectly that does describe me well perfectly yeah wow yeah yeah
gregarious is an adjective that means fond of company sociable or tending to live in groups
does not describe you perfectly yeah wow yeah yeah yeah
gregarious is an adjective that means fond of company sociable or tending to live in groups
but but because i confuse gregarious and verbose
but but because i confuse gregarious and verbose
the unnecessary use of additional words and phrases
what is what is it this hey verbose mean means using or containing more words than unneeded
what is what is it this hey verbose means using or containing more words than unneeded okay scratch that one
because you you you know more people than anyone i know maybe maybe lawrence maybe but i still think
maybe maybe lawrence maybe but i still think
maybe maybe lawrence maybe but i still think you know more
you know more
you know more i've never been out to lunch dinner or in
i've never been out to lunch dinner or in
i've never been out to lunch dinner or in public with kaya and not had kaya greeted
public with kaya and not had kaya greeted
public with kaya and not had kaya greeted by somebody yeah in a very familiar way
by somebody yeah in a very familiar way
by somebody yeah in a very familiar way like genuinely i remember once we were
like genuinely i remember once we were
like genuinely i remember once we were they were like is he is he like is he
they were like is he is he like is he
they were like is he is he like is he like the mayor or something what does he
like the mayor or something what does he
like the mayor or something what does he do
do
do like is he is he like is he the mayor
like is he is he like is he the mayor
like is he is he like is he the mayor because everywhere you go you don't you
because everywhere you go you don't you
because everywhere you go you don't you don't sit down at a restaurant
don't sit down at a restaurant
don't sit down at a restaurant i would say it takes five to ten minutes
i would say it takes five to ten minutes
i would say it takes five to ten minutes for you to sit down when you go to a
for you to sit down when you go to a
for you to sit down when you go to a restaurant yeah i would hate to be his
restaurant yeah i would hate to be his
restaurant yeah i would hate to be his partner it's terrible
partner it's terrible
partner it's terrible yeah because you get there and then
yeah because you get there and then
yeah because you get there and then before you sit
before you sit
before you sit oh table oh table oh table you know like
oh table oh table oh table you know like
oh table oh table oh table you know like in the godfather yeah yeah that's how
in the godfather yeah yeah that's how
in the godfather yeah yeah that's how kaya is
kaya is
kaya is damn you kiss babies and everything
damn you kiss babies and everything
damn you kiss babies and everything everything bro yeah yeah i send them up
everything bro yeah yeah i send them up
everything bro yeah yeah i send them up prayers and tenders
prayers and tenders
prayers and tenders no no but it's i don't know it's okay
no no but it's i don't know it's okay
no no but it's i don't know it's okay but then again it's that
but then again it's that
but then again it's that i don't know if it's a personality thing
i don't know if it's a personality thing
i don't know if it's a personality thing or that's why but
or that's why but
or that's why but i mean that i think there was partly the
i mean that i think there was partly the
i mean that i think there was partly the reason actually uh i think i i wrote
reason actually uh i think i i wrote
reason actually uh i think i i wrote books in the beginning because you
books in the beginning because you
books in the beginning because you thought you were like i'm gonna i'm
thought you were like i'm gonna i'm
thought you were like i'm gonna i'm gonna be dead at least i've left something
gonna be dead at least i've left something
gonna be dead at least i've left something behind you know what's actually
behind you know what's actually
behind you know what's actually beautiful about this funny enough is
beautiful about this funny enough is
beautiful about this funny enough is they say and it's i know it's a it's a
they say and it's i know it's a it's a
they say and it's i know it's a it's a platitude
platitude
platitude but they always say
but they always say
but they always say live as if you are going to die
live as if you are going to die
live as if you are going to die and people always like yeah well of
Well, of course we're going to, it's like, no, no, no, no.
Everyone goes like, oh, you're going to die.
But people don't actually live as if they are going to die.
And it's interesting that you now say that because it's like,
you were living like you were going to die.
So you're like, let me write books so that I've left something
and I've told my stories and I've like, you know,
my family and our histories and our lives.
You know what I mean?
It's like this whole vibe.
So now what's changed, as Eugene says, now that you've ticked the-
Like I said-
Now that the odometer, so that it can go further.
It can go further.
It's like, ah.
It went to 9, 9, 9, 9, then it clicked back.
Then you're like, how?
Back to zero.
And I was like-
The year 2000.
Can I tell you, like, you're right.
It's been, it was for maybe a solid four years where I was a bit,
where I couldn't find or place myself properly because I was,
but I didn't figure that out yet.
And I think when, when the penny dropped,
I was like, flip, it's because I thought I was going to die.
This is why my life just feels,
like, all over the place.
And I've been really defined the second stage of my life
because what I thought was going to happen hasn't happened.
And so how do I plan my life now?
Because I need to plan my life.
And it's almost like I'm starting from zero.
And that's what I, that's what's happening now.
And I can see that evolution.
And I think I can, I can feel it in myself.
And it's, and I feel a little bit different, I think, because of that.
Does it bring you relief or does it bring you discomfort?
It's, oh, that is a very good question.
I think that actually it gives, it's, it's a, it's a bit of both.
And I like the discomfort of wanting to try new things.
You know, things that, I mean, for example,
there's a thing that I've always said to myself, which is like,
the one thing I know I'll never ever be able to do is to start a business.
Like, I don't think that I have the capacity for it.
I don't think I have the, the, the, the, you know, the, the mental,
like, aptitude for it.
But now I'm actually seriously considering, like, you know, doing something,
like, in that sign, you know, a business that I'd love to, you know,
to, to be involved in and started,
which is completely different from anything I've ever done in my life.
Like, completely outside of that scope.
I love that for you.
I will say one thing.
If there's one thing that will kill you, it's starting a business.
I'm just going to tell you as your friend.
Yes.
Oh, my God.
That, man.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Death is such an interesting, Eugene and I were, we're hanging with my mom yesterday
and it was so funny.
She was so annoyed.
So my mom was devastated.
And I mean, devastated at the news of Dolly Parton's passing.
Oh, yes.
My mom, she sort of lives in a time capsule.
There's the life she lived before finding Christ.
And then there's her life in Christ.
That period is almost like,
stasis because it's like the Bible doesn't change.
The scripture doesn't change, you know, and she's comfortable in that world.
But then there's this world that she still loves and fondly remembers and all of that.
So that's when she was listening to secular music and she was like part of the world and all.
Those things hold a special place in her heart.
Bro, let me tell you something.
People have died.
And my mom will be like, oh, I heard whoever passed away.
Oh, I can't believe it.
I can't believe it.
Oh, so Mandela died.
Yeah, those vibes.
Those guys.
Jesus, guy, you took it there.
Let me tell you something.
Are you sure too high?
He didn't even start yet.
He went straight to Tata.
Dude, not Masatini, nothing.
She was shaken.
Like shaken, shaken.
I can't believe it.
I get it.
I get it.
Yeah, she was shaken.
And I've tried to break it down to understand why.
And I think it's a few reasons because I was talking to her about it.
And I was like, I think.
She was shaken for.
Let me go.
I go.
I think she was shaken by Dolly Parton's passing.
One, because Dolly Parton defined an era of my mom's life.
Right.
And you know, when an artist defines an era of your life, when they die, it sort of makes
you feel like that era of your life has died as well.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know?
Yeah.
I think her dying also shook my mom a little bit because I guess she saw her as a peer
in age in a way.
So she's like.
She was an icon as well.
Yeah.
No, but before that, it's like, just like, this is like the person I'm in line with.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Then there's the icon of like, oh my goodness, Dolly Parton.
Right.
Because some people seem so larger than life.
It's almost like the idea of them.
Dolly Parton becomes ephemeral as opposed to concrete.
Yes.
Yes.
Dolly Parton is an idea.
Yeah.
Dolly Parton.
No one's even like, where is she right now?
She's Dolly Parton.
That's true.
Yeah.
Then when you go, she's dead.
It's like, wait, what do you mean?
What do you mean?
I didn't even know she was like alive.
I thought she was just.
Oh, yeah.
Existing.
Yeah.
Fully shaken.
That's actually a good description.
So now I'm on my way to pick up my mom.
You know, it's Sunday.
We're going to go get lunch.
The usual thing.
And now I'm like, oh man, Dolly Parton.
Because I saw the email my mom sent me in the morning.
And I was like, oh, let me like play Dolly Parton's greatest hits.
And because that's my childhood.
So now I'm in the car.
Oh, having the time of my life.
Busy there, singing there, enjoying myself, you know, get to
my mom's place.
She gets in the car.
She's like, turn it off, turn it off.
She's dead.
Then I'm like, what?
Yeah, that's why I'm playing the music.
She's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
And I've never genuinely.
She's not like that kind of.
She's like, no, no, please.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
I play a call to say I love you.
Please just a call.
Just call.
Then I was like, who?
Because the title didn't come to mind immediately.
Yeah.
And then I was like, who?
She's like, the blind guy, man.
And I was like, oh, Stevie Wonder.
She's like, yeah.
And I was like, damn, she's like shaken.
And then during the day we talked about it.
And I know my mom is like one person, but I also started
seeing like the impact that Dolly Parton had on people's lives.
And people's minds
lives that i don't think anyone could have ever predicted i can see dolly parton a country
superstar having an impact on many parts of america's lives i can see dolly parton an american
having an impact on many parts of american lives you know regardless of where they live etc etc
brah i i really hope dolly parton knew that in random parts of africa and i'm sure other parts
of the world there were black people going you are my person yeah that's very true not just
because of your music not just because of your message but even in the way she lived after that
yeah she lived her life yeah she lived amazing yeah but and how she lived it the fights that
she fought the sides of history she chose to be on the you get what i'm saying when everything
about where she came from yes told her to behave a very particular way not being apologetic as well
not being apologetic you're right about it yeah sorry incidentally
you're right about it yeah sorry incidentally
when you said that uh your mom asked you to play i just called to say i love you do you know why
that song was written no no he wrote stevie wonder wrote that song as to madiba while he was in prison
that song to nelson mandela yes i just called to say i love you yeah wait wait wait wait wait wait
wait yes stevie wonder stevie wonder wrote that song dedicated to madiba to nelson mandela nelson
mandela
what yes damn yeah and and and of course happy birthday to you mlk
yo that's crazy yeah but that's all right we're talking about you know what i'm thinking now
just the comedian part of my brain don't don't the comedian part of my brain don't shoot just
for comedy just for comedy not for real life okay comedy disclaimer the following is not
appropriate for sensitive viewers do you have a disclaimer for sensitive viewers do you have a
disclaimer for sensitive viewers do you have a disclaimer for sensitive viewers do you have a
yeah just for comedy i'm picturing now the song comes out mega hit all over the world
nelson mandela's in robin island he's in prison the the god comes through busy playing it on a
mini radio i just called to say ah you know mandela's like ah just he's he's like who's that
song what an amazing song who's that the god is like uh mr mandela that is uh the new song from
stevie wonder then mandela's like oh he's got a new song it's so great can you can i hear it again
he's like i'll let you know when it comes on the radio again sir he's like okay yeah because then
you couldn't just play it again so then he comes back like in the next hour block where they're
playing he's like oh mr mandela here it is you can listen to it then mandela's like i love this song
i love it then every day the god comes back plays it for mandela every day he's like oh wow what a
song what a song i can't believe it i can't believe it oh wow wow what a song and then the news comes
out someone
reports on it and then the god comes there he's like mr mandela mr mandela he's like ah how are
you a bit then he's like mr mandela i heard the most amazing thing today stevie wonder was doing
an interview yes and he said that song you know i just called to say i love you yes he wrote it
to you what do you mean to me it's like he wrote that song to you mr mandela
then mandela was like wow that's okay
you know that
you know that line from that movie that's funny every time i try to leave the game keeps calling
me
oh that's
funny
you guys were like them
i'm sorry man oh that was good but halfway through the story i had hope
like there was time where you won me over i was like he's not gonna do it
like i yes i looked at him and i was like yeah
oh man
oh man
ah god that uppercut was unnecessary
okay hey yeah i'm back i'm back i'm back sorry i'm back i'm back i'm back
yeah man hey flying i'm flying too low to the stadium guys
sorry guys hey flying too low to the stadium guys sorry sorry guys
that was amazing oh man wait do you know do you know do you know what who i said ah oh
I was I quite connects me to Dolly Parton yeah guys I don't know about you but this was my life
and Dolly Parton manual labor at home every Saturday I'm there cleaning the stoop red polish
playing Dolly Parton oh yeah and then I'm like my mom wants me to use a brass so to clean the
the primary primary stove so that it's like yes glistening and I'm taking the like newspaper
cleaning the windows and Dolly Parton is blasting in the background that's my association with
Dolly Parton it's amazing bro every single it's amazing Saturday we're playing Dolly Parton and
that's what's happening you guys don't you it was just me no no no so it's all right yeah no no no
funny enough for my maybe just because of an age thing or where we were playing it
Dolly Parton was the music my mom played for me that was her music my stoop cleaning sweeping
music was
all like boys to men Mariah Carey yeah them them too yeah yeah but what I'm saying is like
Dolly Parton for some reason was never played like around cleaning time I was always there by the
stoop literally in my head I was just like we belong together I know I know and you know
oh our parents let us sing I'll make love to you just presently
ah my man they were like I'll make love to you yeah
as long as the house is clean yeah you can sing what you want
ah
skit skit
from the window to the wall
that's a perfect that's a perfect feeling song actually so she but you see Mina caught already
story at the end when I meet you yeah at the beginning yeah when she was telling you good
and then at the end oh at the end man it was so fun because Mina was there Kaya participating like
we all said that Dolly died so then my mom she like flips immediately she goes from like
mourning the loss the whole thing and then she's like yo by the way she's like did you see that she planned her whole funeral
and like you rehearsed it and I was like what are you talking about she's like yeah she saw this thing where
planned it rehearsed it told everyone what it's gonna be how she's gonna dress whatever she's
gonna be buried in high heels whatever then I was like oh that's cool then my mom was like no she's
like what control freak yeah then my mom was like yeah that's very sad yeah me and Eugene are both like
then my mom was like hey control freak she's like you're gone why do you care what shoes you're wearing
oh yeah yeah you're gone what are you talking about then I was like mom that's you can say
and then the only the only way I can get her to like at least see a point of view is I'll go like
okay in the bible how many people made requests before they died about what they would like to
happen after they were dead and then she was like yeah yeah okay well the people that did that all
the time all the time in the bible all the time yeah all the time there's so many of them
once I'm gone you must do this you must do then you must go to where we and do that or
I want to be buried like this um I mean like Moses was one was like bury me on a mountain without my
things and my this and my that King David had his request as well bury me like this and the thing
must do that in my oh what is it yeah Peter said that he's um uh bury me like what is it when they
crucify him it should be upside down yeah oh and then there was um Tupac said the holes that I used
to know from long ago I was like oh my god I'm gonna die I'm gonna die I'm gonna die I'm gonna die
kiss me from my head to my toe that's similar but not the same but he said it but no it's it's so
then she was like okay yeah she's like okay I get it so wait because she was also mentioning
what the people are doing final holidays now people yeah when they know that they're gonna
die yeah they plan their death they're gonna get that injection that's funny she was actually
talking my mom was talking about you without realizing it she was talking about you without
realizing it she was saying she's fascinated by people who like pre like live the last years of
their life but like knowing they're going to die or either like planning their death yes or whatever
you know but they go I'm gonna die so I'm this is my last big trip vacation this is my last I'm
throwing a big party and throwing this and throwing a outfit you know what I mean your
baba in advance yeah and then but then we were having a discussion we're like maybe it's because
we've never had the luxury but we don't know of any like black people doing that ever yeah
I can't I can't think of anybody unless you are state president but that's what I mean like we
couldn't think of anyone saying yeah we're going it's our last family trip because grandpa's going
soon yeah going away yeah but when your grandmother stops drinking tab that's funny that's when you
know just so funny like I remember like you know like in 2014 from the world cup in brazil my
grandmother you know from my dad's side you know she was getting sick and and you're just being
hospitalized and you could see it as like the last few days and I remember thinking there's
someone that better not die before I go to brazil for the world cup
Because she was also there like,
yo, bro, I want to watch the World Cup.
And then I was like, she held on.
I'm in Brazil and I'm like,
if I get any message from home,
does this mean that I have to, you know,
cut my trip short and then to fly back home?
She hung on for another two weeks.
And then, you know, I got back.
World Cup was over.
And I was like, well done, Grant.
That's a Coco who loves you.
Grant, I'm betting your grandmother
would love you so much
that she would hold on for you knowing that.
Your gran also held on.
I think she did.
I told you that story.
I think I did, right?
Remind me.
Where I came back to visit one of my trips.
Oh, yes.
Yeah, and she was like, Trevor's here.
And my mom was like, Trevor's not here.
He's in New York.
And she was like, nope, Trevor's here.
And then I was here.
I hadn't told anyone.
I was supposed to be surprised.
I went to see her.
She was there.
And then she said, you came to say goodbye.
And I was like, goodbye?
Came to say hello.
I just walked in the door.
I thought it was like dementia.
Which she didn't have.
I was like, no, hello.
I came to say hello.
She's like, oh, I thought I wasn't going to see you
before I leave.
Then I was like, what are you?
But she was like very casual about it.
And my gran used to joke a lot.
So I didn't assume.
There wasn't a heaviness around it.
But yeah.
And then I left.
And then after that week,
maybe like a few,
maybe a month later,
possibly in her sleep.
I remember that.
She was just like, yeah,
my nose is moisturized.
And she knew.
So, Kyle, this is exciting.
Before we go,
what are you going to do now?
New life, new life, new K.
I'm excited, bro.
I didn't know this, by the way.
No, I'm going to tell about it
and invest in my business.
As I was saying.
But really, what do you have?
So tell me some of the things.
Tell me some of the things
you didn't even allow yourself
the luxury of considering
that you now are considering
and you're going like,
actually, because I was afraid
I wasn't going to be here.
I didn't even allow myself
the possibility of thinking about it.
But now I am.
Now I'm.
What are you entertaining that you didn't
because you thought you couldn't before?
Being married.
Love it.
I know it's so funny
because sometimes I think I was like,
well, I'm a bit older.
Do I want to have kids?
And then I think,
I mean, my father died when I was 26.
You know, he was young and had kids.
You know, you could die.
Yes.
And so there's no,
there's no, you know what I'm saying?
And then even that.
You'd be a great dad.
Yeah.
So now that, thank you.
I think so too.
The only dad telling his little child
about Bill Clinton's autobiography.
You know what is, is.
You'd be the only dad.
No, but you would be.
And your kids talking from the bedroom.
Mom, come fetch your man.
Because you love,
just like you love learning.
Yeah.
You espouse curiosity.
You love people.
You, you love people.
You, you know what I mean?
Yeah.
I can see that for you.
And then obviously I'm like,
I'm going to take a brave step
and just do something I've never done before.
I love this.
Which is what?
Return our text messages.
I can't.
Wow.
Reply to our texts.
Now I get it.
Guy was like,
hey guys, I can't respond.
I might be dying, guys.
I might be dying.
These blue ticks,
they are not what you think.
It's the blue ticks of death, boys.
I can't respond.
It's so funny.
And you know,
time, time,
there's been timely death
using calendars.
Chinese calendar.
Gregorian calendar.
Then there was that,
what was that one?
The Inca one?
Oh yeah.
But it's so funny.
Like,
you just actually reminded me.
You're like,
I don't know.
You're calling me.
I think,
I think you're Ryan.
I don't know who else was in the car.
Yeah.
I don't know what you're calling me about.
And then
the conversation ended.
whatever.
And then you call me like,
like 30 seconds later
or a minute later
and like,
yo,
the conversation wasn't done.
Like,
how are you ending conversations like that?
So what Kaya,
what Kaya does is,
he will,
it's like a sitcom.
He,
he,
he,
you'll be talking.
Yeah.
When you get to the end of a point
or an idea,
he then just automatically assumes
that's the end of the conversation.
And then he stops.
Terrible Spum Pump Ticket.
Wait.
Terrible.
Terrible.
He never got it.
My friend.
Wait, wait.
So you'll be like,
okay, let's do a conversation.
I'll show you.
Let's go.
Sure.
Sure.
Yeah, sure.
Chep.
Keep on love.
I know.
I'm great.
You cheat.
I'm great, my man.
How are you?
Hey, I'm fine.
Did you know that
Steve Wanda wrote that song?
I just called
to say I love you.
Chep, I know.
I read that, Chep.
I read it, Chep.
That's crazy.
Yeah, man.
That's wild, Chep.
That's crazy.
Do, do, do, do.
No, man.
Chep.
I found him back immediately.
I'm so confused.
I found him back immediately
and I was like,
yo, what happened?
Then he's like, what?
I said, did we get cut off?
He's like, no, Chep.
I thought we were done.
I was like, my man, my man.
No, brother.
No, brother.
Wait.
Why?
Why is Chep treating
every conversation
like it's a mosque code?
Bruh.
Do, do, do, do, do, do.
That's how Chep does it.
Wait.
How do you determine
when it's over, Chep?
I, I.
I just think it's over.
I don't have, I don't have,
I don't have like a thing,
but I just,
there's a moment,
ah, I think this conversation
is over and it's so funny
because it's something
I'd been told before
that I end conversations
awkwardly
and then for a while,
it's okay.
I need to be conscious
actually of how I end
conversations now
because I know
I've got to wait for that.
Okay, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye.
Yes.
Okay, bye, bye, bye.
And you're a cusser, dude.
Come on.
On top of all of these things,
we cuss.
I know.
We've never said goodbye
like one time.
Yeah, that's true.
We said goodbye to my mom
how many times yesterday?
That's true.
Six, seven times?
Wait, wait, wait,
at the house.
All over.
We said goodbye in the car.
Yeah.
Then we said,
then we got out of the car
and said goodbye.
Then we walked her to the gate.
Then we said goodbye.
Then we walked her in the house.
Then she said,
wait, can you just come with me
to do something?
Then we went with her.
Then we went,
we did things, did things.
Then we came back
and said goodbye in the car again.
Then said goodbye
when we got out of the car.
Then said goodbye at the gate again.
And then said goodbye inside.
Yeah.
And then you hooted
the final goodbye.
You know this.
Yeah, I know, I know.
But now here you are.
Yeah, I know.
I don't know why.
I don't know.
But it's like a thing.
But I can see where it comes from.
You know,
black people,
when someone has died,
they'll ask you,
what was the last thing
that person said?
Yeah.
There's always a thing.
Yeah, I've been cool with my eyes.
We were having a conversation.
He was telling me,
yeah, no, I should have known.
I should have read the sign.
So Kaya was like,
you will never quote me.
What was the last thing
that Kaya said?
Toot, toot, toot.
Oh, man.
Kaya was like,
you'll never quote me.
Damn.
Okay, yeah.
This is the thing
we're going to work on.
Oh, yeah.
But this is dope.
I'm glad you actually told,
because you've never told me this.
Now that you've told me,
I'm excited to be part
of like your new life.
It's going to be dope, man.
You know,
it's been a year
since we first,
exactly a year.
Do you realize?
Santa Maria, you're right.
Since the first time we hung out,
you guys were the first,
like my favorite people.
Yeah.
Oh, wow.
Exactly.
Literally, it's been a year.
Santa Maria.
That's amazing.
So another one, man.
My man,
I'm going to celebrate
your birthday's extra now.
You know that?
I'm being serious.
When is your birthday?
April 16th.
I'm going to celebrate it extra now.
But he's like,
it's so funny.
Like you,
last year,
or the last year,
you forced me to have my birthday
because I was like,
ah,
I'm just landing from Canada.
And Trevor's like,
good for you.
We're doing this thing.
Yeah.
Yeah, bro.
And I didn't even know this.
Yeah.
And I didn't know this.
Yeah.
Let's do it.
This has been dope, man.
Thank you, guys.
Here's to another year.
Another year.
For five.
Another year.
For ten.
Let's do one at a time.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We don't want to fly too low.
One at a time, guys.
One at a time, guys.
One at a time, guys.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
One at a time, guys.
One at a time, guys.
Thank you.
Yeah, dope, dope, dope.
Oh, man.
I just called.
Yeah?
What is it?
What is it?
Wait, tell us.
Stevie Wonder did not write,
I just called to say I love you
for Nelson Mandela.
But he famously dedicated
his 1985 Academy Award
for the song to him.
Oh, it's close enough.
Okay, okay, okay.
No, it's not like a non-story.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, okay, okay.
But thank you for that clarification.
I really thought, okay.
No, no, but that's good.
No, but yeah,
if you sing here,
Bambara and Jeopardy,
I think Leanna.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
At least now,
now Mandela will be like,
oh, that's better.
That's better.
That was so funny.
What now?
What now?
What now?
What now?
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Podcast Summary
Key Points:
The speaker recounts how their mother reacted to the idea that Dolly had meticulously planned her funeral, highlighting a sense of control and premeditation.
A personal accident involving a bike collision and a somersault leads to a reflective moment on survival, injuries, and the physical aftermath of trauma.
The discussion turns to the absurdity and cultural specificity of South African taxi stickers, which serve as humorous, everyday social commentary.
A critique is made of systemic failure in accountability, particularly in commissions like Madlanga, where arrests occur repeatedly but real consequences are lacking.
The conversation touches on the role of hierarchy in aviation safety, citing South Africa’s flat organizational structure as a factor in lower accident rates.
The power of communal rituals, such as singing during funerals, is emphasized as a source of emotional connection and memory.
A recurring theme of "rhythm" emerges—from taxi stickers to church singing—showing how cultural traditions shape social behavior and personal identity.
The narrative blends personal anecdotes with broader reflections on accountability, trauma, and the cultural significance of rituals in South African life.
Summary:
The transcript blends personal storytelling with cultural critique, exploring themes of accountability, tradition, and human behavior. The narrative begins with a humorous anecdote about a mother's shock at Dolly’s pre-planned funeral, illustrating a sense of control and routine. This shifts to a vivid account of a life-threatening bike accident, where the physical trauma is balanced with reflections on survival and memory.
A central theme emerges through the cultural significance of South African taxi stickers—simple, witty, and deeply rooted in everyday interactions, symbolizing social norms and humor. The conversation expands to a serious critique of institutional failure, particularly in commissions like Madlanga, where repeated arrests fail to lead to meaningful consequences. It contrasts this with South Africa’s flat organizational culture, which may reduce errors due to open communication, especially in aviation and public services.
The piece also highlights the emotional power of rituals—such as funeral singing and church traditions—where communal rhythm and storytelling create strong bonds. These moments, like singing "Singene Jerusalem," are not just entertainment but acts of memory and healing. Ultimately, the transcript reflects on how small, seemingly mundane cultural practices and personal experiences reveal deeper truths about society, accountability, and resilience.
FAQs
Yes, according to the speaker's mom, Dolly planned and rehearsed her funeral, including details like what she would wear and how she would be buried.
The speaker says this after being involved in a car accident where they were struck by a vehicle, and they believe it reflects how informal businesses are unsafe and risky.
A plane flew very low, through a plume of smoke, and some people thought it was dangerously close, especially during a turn, raising concerns about safety and flight protocols.
In South Africa, clapping once is a cultural gesture used to acknowledge someone who has done something remarkable or preposterous, often causing a pause in conversation.
The speaker highlights that police and prosecutors are corrupt and complicit in state capture, with cases being ignored due to systemic corruption and lack of accountability.
The man was arrested multiple times for alleged misconduct, always in the same red jumpsuit, with cameras present, and he was seen smiling, indicating he was used to the process.
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