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SOURCE: Erika Kirk to Step Down as CEO, Remain Chair of TPUSA - Ep 172

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SOURCE: Erika Kirk to Step Down as CEO, Remain Chair of TPUSA - Ep 172

The transcript explores the potential end of Erica Kirk’s role as CEO of Turning Point USA (TPSA), with a trusted source indicating she may step down but remain chair, citing internal acknowledgment of leadership failures and a need for her to step back from constant public engagement. This shift comes amid growing public scrutiny over TPSA’s direction, particularly regarding foreign policy and political messaging. The discussion draws a direct parallel between the true crime podcast *Death of a Pastor’s Wife* and the case of Charlie Kirk, both of which feature unresolved narratives, public skepticism of official conclusions, and the cultural tendency to question institutional closure. Critics argue that Erica Kirk’s actions—such as publishing intimate personal reflections in the New York Times and attending a high-profile event in a $4,000 cape—directly contradict Charlie Kirk’s well-documented criticism of the outlet and his preference for conservative media. This is seen as a profound dissonance, suggesting a deliberate misrepresentation of his legacy. The analysis also highlights a security lapse during Charlie Kirk’s final days, including his exposure on a public street with minimal security, and questions about Blake Neff’s whereabouts, suggesting potential dishonesty. These elements collectively point to a broader crisis of transparency and credibility in TPSA’s leadership, with the author urging a return to authenticity, transparency, and alignment with Charlie Kirk’s actual values—especially as the one-year anniversary of his death approaches.

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Alright, I've been working on the sound, so if you guys complain, get over it. I'm just kidding, I'm just kidding, I would never say such a thing. Welcome in, welcome in, welcome in. We've got a lot of stuff to talk about today. We've got a banger of a source that's giving us an insider scoop that I believe may be accurate. And we will talk about the claim that, well, it's in the title, so I don't have to hide it. Erica may be stepping down as CEO, hanging on as the chair title at TPSA. I'll give you a little bit more information about that in just a moment. We're going to look at several other things as well. But I've got to tell you, I don't feel great. I don't know what's going on with me. I used to wonder why Candace took so many vacations. She'll take a vacation like every six or seven weeks. And I used to think to myself, Self, why would you do that? I love being on air, but man, it is hard on your voice. I don't think I'm getting sick as much as my voice is struggling. You know, when I used to be on the radio, every eight minutes you got a break. And the break would last like two, three. Four minutes, sometimes six minutes. There's no break on the podcast, baby. You're just going, you are going for a long time. Sometimes two, three, four hours. Nevertheless, I'm not complaining. I'm glad you're here. Welcome in. Welcome in. Welcome in. Um, the open is fun tonight. I kind of gave you a hint last night. What was it going to be about? I gave you a hint last night. What is it going to be about? We're going to talk about death of a pastor's wife and some of the similarities that I see in the, um, the Charlie Kirk case, the Tyler Robinson. And I cannot imagine there's anyone at TPSA. USA, anyone in the Erica Kirk orbit, any of her little hanger on lackeys that are trying to cause chaos on social media. I can't imagine any of them are happy to watch death of a pastor's wife. Cause when you get to episode three, it, um, it it's pretty wild when you get to episode three, it's pretty wild because everybody's sitting around saying, um, did, did he do it? Did the grieving widow do it? Um, so I will, uh, I'll, I'll get through the open as well. We also have a first look, uh, it was making its way on social media today. A first look at some, um, some, uh, uh, footage of Charlie Kirk in Salt Lake city before the TPSA event, I noticed a couple of things in there and we'll talk about that. What else was on the agenda? Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, the Erica Kirk, New York times opinion. Well, I've got strong opinions about that. Very strong. Opinions on the New York times, um, Opinion piece that Erica Kirk pen. I will say it's labor day. Those of you not in the United States may not know what that means. Uh, labor day in the United States. We celebrate the first Monday in September. Sometimes it's Mrs. Coleman's birthday, not every week and every year, every six or seven years, it falls on Mrs. Coleman's, uh, birthday, but it's about the labor movement. It celebrates the labor movement. Um, I am one of those rare Republicans that actually likes unionized labor, not necessarily like unionized labor. I like the threat. Of unionized labor. I like that a lot. I think it keeps management honest and it keeps, uh, workers being treated fairly. And sometimes you got to unionize in order to keep that threat alive. So I know, I know I'm a bad Republican. I've been a bad Republican for a very long time, a very, very long time. It's okay though. It's okay though. I'll allow it. I'll allow it in my own instance. I did see, well, I don't want to get into that. Um, so let me get into the open, uh, let me get into the open daisies. The sound. Okay. It sounds kind of weird. Am. My ears. Um, as long as you think it's all right, I'm going to keep going. All right. I've got to jump into this open because it is, um, I thought it was fun to write. It was really fun to write. It, it took me down memory lane a little bit because the, um, the national phenomenon we see of these true crime podcasts and, and who done it and all that, it, it, it's really fun. So let me get into this open. And with your permission, ladies and gentlemen, and then we will jump right into the big headline story of the night, because this is your opening statement. Uh, millions of people now treat the new Netflix drops the way earlier generations treated a network mini series finale, three episode true crime documentary appears on a Wednesday and by Friday, it has colonized group chats. It has. Taken over comment sections. It is dominating the dinner table discussions, making a murderer. You remember that show making a murderer turned a Wisconsin murder case into a national argument about police and prosecutors. There was tiger King tiger King turned a chaotic private zoo into a pandemic era, cultural event, later entries like the staircase, American murder, the family next door, even the murder. all films, they all followed a similar pattern. There's intimate footage, there are conflicting personal accounts, and then there's an invitation for viewers to decide whether the institutions got it right. The effect on the cultural conversation is not subtle. The series accelerates skepticism towards first reports. They shrink the perceived distance between professional investigation and amateur investigation. They give ordinary people a shared vocabulary for talking about crimes and criminal investigations. They also reward narrative neatness. A closed case that still feels incomplete is far more watchable than a messy documented tragedy where there is no villain. Enter Death of a Pastor's Wife, arrived on Netflix just last month, and it sits squarely inside this film. In short, Death of a Pastor's Wife is emotionally intense. Do not go into it thinking it's casual watching. It's built around a gap between the official ruling and the people closest to the, I guess the heroine of the story, the dead woman, featured in the series. Viewers binge it because it promises the same thing that those earlier hits promised, which is the promise that looking harder at a closed file might somehow change the story. The series follows a story that is not necessarily a true story. It's a story that is not necessarily a true story. The story follows a woman named Micah Miller. She was the worship leader and the pastor's wife in a Myrtle Beach, South Carolina church. She met her husband, John Paul Miller, when she was just 13, and he was the charismatic pastor of her family's church. An affair, while both were married to other people, led to their own marriage. Friends and family describe the relationship that moved from intensity to somewhat dominating control. In April 2024, two days after Micah served divorce papers, she was married to a man named John Paul Miller. She was married to a man named John Paul Miller. She was married to a pastor's husband. Micah was found dead. She was in Lumber River State Park, North Carolina. It was a couple hours north of her home in Myrtle Beach. She'd called 911 and said she intended to remove herself from this life. She wanted her family to be able to find her. The local medical examiner ruled the death inflicted by herself, and the case was closed. But her family and those closest to her never really accepted that ending. They put her in a hospital, and they put her in a hospital. She pointed to her earlier statements that she feared her husband. They identified a history of alleged abuse. And they even looked at her own reporting that warned if she ever was found with a bullet wound, it would not have been by her own hand. Federal investigators, for what it's worth, later charged her pastor husband with cyberstalking and making false statements. Those charges were pending when the series aired last month. No one's been charged with causing her death. The documentary doesn't pretend that the homicide question is settled. It presents the family's fight for answers. It looks at the speed of the original closure of the case and the contrast between the woman who had just taken a concrete step towards leaving her husband to start a brand new life and an official conclusion after just a very brief investigation that she instead chose to take herself out. A combination of a closed local case, the federal federal follow-up, the persistent local belief that the widower pastor had some role is exactly the type of unresolved structure that true crime streaming now feeds. This cultural habit, these series train the habit of treating an official narrative as nothing more than a first draft. The habit doesn't stay inside entertainment. It migrates into politics the moment a death is made public, especially if a death is sudden or ideologically charged. And you can take, for example, the Charlie Kirk case. Charlie Kirk, of course, the co-founder of TPSA. And I'll just give you a brief summary of the official narrative. I know a lot of you disagree with it, but the official narrative is that he was shot and killed on September 10, 2025, while speaking at Utah Valley University, just 31 years old. Authorities immediately or nearly immediately identified a guy named Tyler Robinson. At the time, he was only 22. They said he was the shooter and the lone person involved in the case. He was immediately charged with aggravated murder. They said he acted a loan, and they described a political motive tied to Charlie Kirk's political positions. There's court filings. There have been subsequent hearings. They've released text messages. There was a note for the roommate. That, combined with physical evidence and statements about the planning, kind of leads to the official narrative's conclusion that Tyler Robinson acted a loan. For his part, he's pleaded not guilty after the preliminary hearing, and a judge is going to send the case to trial. Prosecutors are seeking the death penalty. That's the official account that's moved through the court. Around that official account, other conversations formed almost immediately. There was speculation than a patsy. There was talk that the shooting or whatever happened to Charlie Kirk was an inside job, that staff at TPUSA or perhaps other people were involved. And in some versions, there are stories that Erica Kirk, Charlie's widow, may also have played a role. Those claims have circulated on podcasts, social media. It's important to note that while we have discussed those conversations on this show, and we've even engaged in analyzing whether there might be any merit to those or other suspicions, we on this show have never taken a position pointing a finger at anyone else's involvement. We've researched, we've investigated, we've analyzed, sure. We've wondered if there's evidence to support a different position, sure. But we've never concluded any particular person has been involved with any particular aspect of this case. For the record, that goes with Tyler Robinson as well. We've never concluded he or anyone else shoulders any share of the responsibility at this point for Charlie Kirk's death. Erica Kirk has publicly rejected any suspicions she was involved. FBI and local prosecutors have presented Robinson as the lone gunman. So the parallel between this binge-watch culture and the Charlie Kirk case is an easy parallel to draw. But it's also easy to overstate. While watching Death of a Pastor's Wife, I couldn't help notice the similarities between the questions raised in the show and the questions raised in the show. There's a family that never accepted the ruling. And there are federal charges that at least acknowledge the husband's conduct after the death was weird. In short, looking back at the time before and after the wife's death in the series, those who knew the couple now see things that make them wonder. Treating Tyler Robinson as the lone assassin and abusing his wife is a great example of what happened to Charlie Kirk in this series. Erica Kirk may be involved as equally forbidden questions collapses those differences. There are obvious differences between what happened in the series and what happened to Charlie Kirk. The Tyler Robinson case is being litigated, for example, with physical evidence in a trial against a defendant who's entered a plea. Those aren't the facts of the miniseries. But the cultural complaint about how certain parts of an official story cannot be questioned is a real feeling. High-profile political deaths, however, produce exactly that feeling on every side, almost every time. It's not the same as saying every alternative theory is equally serious. True crime streaming has taught a generation that institutions sometimes close criminal files too quickly. They also have taught that grief and suspicion combined can be the basis for seeking additional justice. Apply carefully. That lesson is a demand for transparency. Applied indiscriminately, it becomes a machine. It converts every widow, every staffer, every political statement, every official statement into a plot point. Death of a pastor's wife belongs in the first category, stays with Micah Miller's life, documented patterns around her, the gap the family still feels. The death of Charlie Kirk is the second question, whether it's proper to extend that same template to his murder. The broader question for public policy and social order is whether it's proper to extend that same template to his murder. The broader question for public policy and social order is whether that question is even allowed to be asked. I submit the answer to that question is yes, the question should be asked. If the first question is proper, under what circumstances may people answer that same question in Charlie Kirk's case in the affirmative? And what circumstances may a case open to the investigators, the public investigators that the officials have deemed closed? So the appetite for a better story than the one on the charging documents is understandable. The question remains whether that's true in the case against Tyler Robinson. And that is as neutral as I can give an opening statement on that. I tried hard, ladies and gentlemen, to cut it right down the middle. I try to play fair on the opening statements. I try not to put my thumb on the scale one way or the other. I have serious concerns. Obviously, I've stated on time and time again about whether or not Tyler Robinson has any responsibility in this. My gut instinct is he does. But my gut instinct is also he was not the shooter. He was not the lone assassin. He did not plan and execute Charlie Kirk on his own. And if he didn't, who did? Or who helped? And so that's your opening statement. I hope you've enjoyed it as much as I have. I did want to talk about that because as I was watching the death of a pastor's wife, I kept thinking, golly, what timing. We're coming up on the one-year anniversary of Charlie Kirk's death. And they release a cultural phenomenon miniseries that everyone's watching in which they're talking about the death of a pastor's wife. And they're which everybody kind of looks at the grieving widower, in this case, the widower, the husband, the man. They look at the grieving widower and say, I'm pretty sure he did it. It's wild. It's wild. If you've not seen it, it's wild. All right, I want to get into the main headline here. I want to jump right into it. I don't want to hide the ball. I received word from a source, a source I trust, a well-placed source. And this source is close to the CEO of Turning Point USA, Erica Kirk. And the source says they are likely to keep Erica Kirk on as chair, but have recognized sort of the failure of the Erica Kirk experiment over the last year. And they want to give her time to do what a lot of us recommended from the beginning, which is go home and raise your kids. Go home and raise your kids. You don't have to be on the road all the time. You don't have to be in the office. You don't have to be, you know, jet-setting around. You're free to hang out in Scottsdale with Mac and Gigi, raise them up, talk about Charlie, teach them the way of the faith, school them, take them to school, go to ball games and all that kind of stuff. But keep her on as the chair so that the Kirk family retains some say in what happens with TPUSA. Now, the question I immediately asked was who would they use to replace her? And the answer is, I don't know that there's an answer to that question yet. I don't know that they've gotten to that yet. It's pretty wild. The source was clear that everyone around Erica Kirk knows there's an issue. They know there's an issue and they know the issue is not going anywhere soon. And they've made an effort in the last few months to kind of draw her back. If you've noticed the last couple of months have been pretty quiet around TPUSA relative to Erica Kirk. They recognize there's an issue. The public obviously has for now close to a year recognized there's an issue. And it may even be that Erica Kirk herself recognizes there's an issue. Now, let me let me give the disclaimer here. This is only as good as the source. I am not the source. I am not the one inside TPUSA. I'm not the one engaged in these discussions. I cannot say with 100% certainty that this is true, but I can say with 100% certainty, I believe the source and I believe these conversations have taken place. I can say, that I also have a source about a recent TPUSA faith event before we get to the content of that source. I want to go back to something that happened at a recent TPUSA faith event. There was a picture that circulated. I'll show you that picture. Now, there was a picture that circulated and it is this picture. You guys remember this picture? This was the flag. This was the flag of another nation hanging inside a church at a TPUSA faith event. To the credit, there was an American flag on the other side, but these were the only two flags of the world that were hanging at this event. There was an American flag on the left-hand side and a flag of another nation on the right-hand side, the blue and white team on the other side. And the question was, actually, I'll show you. I've got a picture of the whole setup here. The question was, who put that flag there? People looked and they saw previous services at this church from the week before, the month before, and the flags weren't there. It led to the obvious conclusion that the flag was put up for this event. Did the church put this flag up for this event? Did TPUSA faith put this flag up for this event? Did they recommend this flag be put up? No one knew the answer to that. Andrew Colvette came out. He came out and said the following. Essentially, we didn't have anything to do with it. I'm going to tell you right now, I don't necessarily agree with this, but I'm going to show it to you just to be fair. We didn't put up the flags. This is Andrew Colvette, PR for TPUSA. We didn't request them. The church put them up all on their own. We don't micromanage churches, especially when they're gracious enough to host us. For my part, I don't like putting flags up. I don't like putting up foreign flags at all. Count me in your group, Andrew. I don't either. I don't want a flag of Ukraine or Russia or Australia or the United Kingdom or Israel or Saudi Arabia or anyone else. Let's just have an American flag up or no flag at all. It's a church. Why do we need any flags? Whether it's Ukraine, Israel, Mexico, Palestine, et cetera. I don't even like the American-Israel or America-Ukraine lapel pins. Well, I'm going to come back to this in just a moment. He may not like it, but do other people at TPUSA like it? We're going to get to that. to that in just a second. Many churches we work with feel the same way I do, but despite what some on this platform would have you believe, we don't control world events, let alone regulate how an independent church in El Paso chooses to decorate its sanctuary. But there's a whole corner of the internet that apparently has nothing better to do than to react to all the things we're doing, which is a lot. They don't register voters. They don't host events, let alone attend any. They don't organize. All they do is complain and blackpill. Anyway, thanks for all the free attention. See you at the next tour stop. Well, not so fast, my friend. Not so fast, my friend. Because I had a source that was at one of these recent TPUSA faith events. And I asked about this very issue. And I got to be careful how I say this, because I don't want to out my source. But in short, this source was part of a group. And in the event. That this group attended, a TPUSA event. On the table were exactly what Andrew Colvette said he didn't like. You know, he said he didn't like the lapel pins with the American and Israeli flags. Well, would you be shocked to learn that on the table setting was American and Israeli flags? Kind of teamed up with each other? And that the sum total of the entire event was basically, here's why everyone should love our greatest ally? And it was complete with kind of, let's get some feedback on what people are saying in your churches and your communities and on your social media feeds about our greatest ally. I just am starting to not believe anything these people say. Or Andrew Colvette is just not plugged in. Because this is. A promo for the next, or one of the next, Make Heaven Crowded events. This is in Austin, Texas, at the Vintage Church, October 14, 2026. We've got a list of speakers. Most of you have never heard of these speakers. Lucas Miles, Stephen Martin, Graham Allen. But zoom in and notice what our TPUSA faith event speaker in the middle is wearing. Now, you're free to wear whatever you want. You can wear whatever you want. Most people who are representing themselves as Christian pastors might wear a cross or nothing at all. You're not beating the charges, is my point. When that's the picture you choose to put on your promo, when those are the types of events you have for groups that attend your TPUSA events, when that's the type of feedback you're soliciting from people, you're not beating the charges. You're not convincing anybody that that flag was placed there by mistake. It looks like you're not telling the truth. It looks like you're lying. And I don't know any other way to say it. But you guys have got to understand that we see what you're doing. This is why we call it TPUSA 2.0. Not only making fun of Erica, Kirk for calling it TPUSA 2.0. But because this was not Charlie. This is not what TPUSA was prior to Charlie. It was not obsessed with other countries and their foreign policy positions. I don't understand how you guys don't get it. And because I don't understand how you don't get it, I do believe you do get it. I believe you don't care. That your concerns, you answer to a higher calling than the public. And when I hire calling, I don't mean God. I mean foreign policy positions. I think it's gross. I think it's a gross misuse of Christianity. I think it's a gross misuse of politicking under the guise of Christianity. And to the extent Erica Kirk is responsible for any of it, and I don't know whether she is. Maybe Lucas Miles is responsible for all of it. He's the head of TPUSA faith after all. To the extent someone is responsible for this incessant push on this issue, they should probably be removed. You're losing the public on this issue. You want to know why she's having to step down? Or the rumors are that she's having to step down? You want to know why? This is a major issue. People are free to have these foreign policy beliefs. Reasonable minds can disagree on whether or not intervention in Iran, for example, is appropriate. But I'm not sure the church is the place to air this out. I'm not sure that that's appropriate. So I leave that there. I don't want to make too big of a deal out of it. I don't want to say too much more. But I do want you to know that your people, your people are talking, right? Your people around you are talking. The people closest to you guys are still talking. They don't like what's happening. They don't like the direction this is headed. They're eager to see her go. They're eager to see, well, they're eager to see her slip into a new role, a less day-to-day management role. And this is one of the reasons why. This is a big part of the reason why. So if you want to regain the trust, I'm telling you, I could turn TPSA around a week. It would, it would involve transparency and, and realigning your values with what Charlie Kirk was preaching the final couple of years of his life. That's it. It would be that easy. It would, it would take no more than that. Complete transparency. Stop gaslighting people. Stop saying something when the facts are directly in opposition to it. Answer questions, reasonable questions that are posed by a great number of your fans and followers. If you're an interested public that loved Charlie Kirk and wanted to know what happened to him, keep in mind, I'll say this time and time again, because it's true. And I think you guys forget it. The only reason anyone on earth knows who Andrew Colvette is outside of the Colvette family is because of Charlie Kirk. The only reason anyone knows who Blake Sneff is outside of the Sneff family is because of Charlie Kirk. And dare I say it, the only reason anyone knows who Erica Kirk is outside of the Kirk family is because of Charlie Kirk. And for you guys to do this to his legacy, to crap all over his legacy, to turn him into something he definitely was not, to take every foreign policy position, every policy position he had, every friendship position he had and say, you know, secretly he believed exactly the opposite of what he said publicly. It's not cutting it. It's really getting bad. We're coming up on the one year anniversary of his death. It's going to hit a lot of people hard here this week. We're three days away. It's Monday. Now we're talking Thursday. We'll be at one year. And there are a lot of people who are pretty disgusted with what you guys are doing. Why don't we use the one year anniversary to dial all this back, reposition ourselves more in line with what he actually would have wanted, how he actually would have led this organization and stop lying to people. Remember his advice to Andrew. We don't lie. We don't lie. And while you're not lying, why don't we go through and look at some things Charlie Kirk said about a particular media operation and then analyze how you guys chose to proceed as his one year anniversary. Approached. I want to show you some thoughts. Charlie Kirk had on the New York times. Here is one example. This is from July 4th, 2023. Instead of simply reporting the facts that a federal judge just delivered a blockbuster injunction in Missouri versus Biden, blocking this administration from outsourcing its censorship regime to social media companies. The New York times spends it as a ruling that could curtail efforts to fight this disinformation, pure propaganda. That was Charlie Kirk's thoughts on the New York times, pure propaganda. Well, is that the only thing he ever said? No, not at all. For example, he also said this in 2024, New York times is being accused by racism by its own union. Management's trying to figure out who leaked information about an episode of the, a daily, which discussed intimate violence and Hamas is October 7th attacks. The news guild of New York and ledges staff has been targeted for their national origin, ethnicity and race. New York times management denies the charges. When you hire a bunch of petulant entitled activists who front as reporters, that's what he thinks of the New York times, a bunch of petulant entitled activists who front as reporters. Don't see, be surprised when they eventually call you a racist in the service of the woke agenda. Yeah. That's Charlie Kirk on the New York Times. Petulant, entitled propagandists. That was in 2024. Now let's go to November 2024 to hear more about Charlie Kirk's thoughts on the New York Times. This is what passes for a fact check at the New York Times. The media lie a lot, but fortunately for us, they are also very stupid. So what did he think about the New York Times? Very stupid liars. Very stupid liars. Okay. That was November 17th of 2024. How about November 24th of 2024? Charlie Kirk have anything to say about the New York Times on that day? Yes. As a matter of fact, he did. New York Times is so committed to the trans insanity that they've now resorted to describing good old-fashioned women as non-transgender women. Good thing. We're the media now. Ironic that they tried to launch a war against trans movement on the death of Charlie Kirk when this is what he thought about the New York Times. We'll get to why all this discussion in the New York Times is valuable in just a second. Well, geez, Barron, that's four or five different quotes about the New York Times. Surely you're done. Oh, baby, we're just getting started. He had strong opinions about the New York Times. For example, this from March of 2025. The New York Times is back to agitating in favor of crime. They want you to think a man jumped a turnstile then was instantly gunned down by bloodthirsty police. If you bother to read the text, you'll learn a man jumps a turnstile while carrying a knife. Police approach him, tell him to put the knife down. Man refuses, starts screaming, shoot me. Cops use tasers, which don't work. The man charges at police. Only then do they open fire. How does he refer to the New York Times? Absolutely disgusting pro-crime trash. Fortunately, nobody is falling for this anymore. Americans are sick of living in fear for every subway ride. Because the left wants violent maniacs to roam with impunity. Charlie Kirk on the New York Times. Okay. Okay. Anything else, man? I mean, this is, I think we get it, brother. You don't like them. Oh, yes, there's more. There's more about Charlie Kirk's thoughts on the New York Times. This is crazy. This New York Times article claims we need to broaden the definition of death so that hospitals can consider more patients legally dead in order to harvest more organs. I'm sure this won't be abused at all by big medicine. Trust the science. He's calling the New York Times pro-death. The New York Times arguing we need to broaden the definition of death. Well, surely when something's published in the New York Times, at least he thinks it's true, right? Well, not exactly. Not exactly. How about Charlie Kirk on the New York Times ability to fact check? Current state of the New York Times fact checks. At least D.C. isn't as bad as Cape Town or Haiti. The left does half of our PR work. The left does half of our PR work for us. The left. Remember the people that Charlie Kirk thought was trying to kill him, according to Smokeboy? The left is trying to kill me. I'm somewhat worried the left is going to kill me. The left does half our PR work for us. He calls the New York Times the left. Comparing D.C. to Cape Town and Haiti. How about three days before he passed away? Surely by then he had forgiven them. He'd repented of all his ill will towards the good people of the New York Times, right? Well, no, not exactly. I'm going to have to censor this one because it's got some imagery that is not YouTube friendly. So I'm going to have to cut the pictures out. But dear CNN, WAPO, New York Times, ABC, NBC, etc. If you want to know why your ratings are in the tank and no one likes you, no one likes the New York Times. The ratings are in the tank. Look no further than the brutal unaliving of Irina Zerutska, who moved to the U.S. to escape the war in Ukraine. A story you refuse to tell. Sadly, she couldn't survive the Democrats' criminal justice system. Yet you, New York Times, wouldn't shut up or stop villainizing Daniel Penny, a hero who was probably. Stopped a murder just like hers. Why? Because he was a straight white American male and the perp was black. That is Charlie Kirk three days before he passed away, September 7th, 2025. Decrying the New York Times as trash that no one likes. Whose ratings are in the tank. It wasn't just his Twitter feed, though. He actually said things on his podcast as well. Here. Excuse me. He was dead by this point. Here is Beavis and Butthead talking about the New York Times. Want to understand the world? You won't by reading the New York Times. This is from March 20, 2026. Just a few months after Charlie Kirk passed. The show looks at an appalling article that hides the disturbing rise of transgender shooters, plus the team remembers Turning Point hero Jeff Webb, national icon Chuck Norris. You want to understand the world? Why are you going on and on about the New York Times? Well, it's important. It's important for one reason that Charlie Kirk hated him so much when they asked to interview him. He said no. He actually refused to be interviewed. By the New York Times. Here is an article. I'll show you the headline in a second. I want to get to the money line here. Being banned from Twitter is a badge of honor among some conservatives. However, and it did little to stop Mr. Kirk, who declined an interview request for this article. Well, what was the article? For Charlie Kirk, conservative activist, the virus is a cudgel. This is back in 2020, the height of COVID mania. And Charlie Kirk would not sit for an interview with the New York Times when they wanted his opinion on something. He didn't deem them worthy of a response. He did participate, from what we could tell, in only one piece the New York Times has ever done. That's the only thing we could find. This was a piece originally written on February 10th, 2025. Updated two days after he passed away, how Charlie Kirk became the youth whisperer of the American right, collecting donors, voters, TikTok viewers, and high-powered friends on his way into Trump's inner circle is the only time we could find that Charlie Kirk had agreed to be interviewed by the New York Times. So why do we say all this? Well. Because this morning, this came out. A guest essay in the opinion section of the New York Times. Erica Kirk. What I've learned about grief. That's this morning, September 7th, 2026, 5.03 a.m. Eastern Time. By Erica Kirk, the widow of Charlie Kirk, the founder of Turning Point USA. So she goes on, there's really nothing new in here. There's really nothing new in here. I'll go through it in just a second, maybe. But I find it interesting that twice now, at pivotal moments since Charlie Kirk passed, Erica Kirk has chosen to give the New York Times preference to her thoughts. We just looked at the one from this morning. We also have this that was from September 18th, eight days after Charlie Kirk passed. For Erica Kirk, a husband's life cut short by violence he seemed to foresee. In an interview, the wife of the conservative activist, Charlie Kirk said she had implored him to wear a bulletproof vest. But she sees divine work in his death. This aired September, this went to print September 21, but it was September 18th, I believe, that she sat down for this interview. It's interesting that this interview took place in the family home, the home she shared with Charlie Kirk. The home in which Charlie Kirk probably penned most of those thoughts, or many of those thoughts, about the very organization she has now chosen to team up with. The New York Times. Eight days afterwards. She wasn't sitting down with conservative outlets that Charlie Kirk liked. So was it Newsmax? So was it Fox News? She did do a Fox News piece with Jesse Waters, but that was later. Months later. The first national splash she did after he passed was with the very organization that Charlie Kirk called pure propaganda, trash, agitating in favor of crime, crazy, unstable, dishonest, liars. But when he passes, that's right where she runs. Why? It's the gray lady. It's the newspaper of record. If you want to be widely circulated, there's no better place in the United States to go than the New York Times. But I would argue if your husband despised the New York Times, refused to participate in most anything they did, constantly criticized them, called them all sorts of terrible names, it's a little bit of a slap in the face to invite them into the family home. It's a little bit of a slap in the face. To sit down with them in the family home. Not surprised. I'll cover that in a second. And I think it's an even bigger slap in the face coming up on the one year anniversary to publish your intimate thoughts on your healing. The very intimate moments. The first time you walked into the shared Beth bedroom, smelled his pillow, looked at his bathroom towel. I mean, all the things she talked about. It's a, it's a huge slap in the face on coming up three days short of the one year anniversary to then publish your most intimate thoughts on his death in that same publication. The one he hated, the one he thought was trash. I don't know who's advising this woman. I doubt she picked up the phone. And called the New York times herself. Maybe she did. I don't know whose idea this is, but I would suggest one of two things. Either they're the worst PR people in the history of mankind. They don't understand the conservative movement. They don't understand the movement, Charlie Kirk led, or they're trying to sabotage her. They want her gone. She may be in the way of something they were trying to accomplish. They want to make her look bad. They want to spit on Charlie's memory. I can't think of a third option. I can't think of a third option between terrible PR agent. One of the worst that's ever been in the business at all, ever at any level. Failed screenwriter, whatever. I don't know who, who recommended this. Or that someone is actually a pretty good PR agent, but wants her to look awful. Those are the only two options. I can come up with. If you can come up with a third option, tell me, I don't know what it could be. It wasn't just that she actually went to the New York times book summit. If you remember back in December wearing a Cape, you remember when she wore a Cape at the New York times book summit, we did a whole, I think we did a whole episode on this or a part of an episode on this Erica Kirk takes on the mantle of leader. A leading turning point USA, the widow of Charlie Kirk promoted conciliation and portrayed her late husband as a seeker of dialogue. I know one organization he didn't seek dialogue with the New York times. There was no dialogue seeking. He considered them the enemy undermining American values, undermining peace, undermining prosperity, a bastion of racism, a bastion of trash propaganda. I think it's time to hang up the failed Erica Kirk experiment. I do. I understand why they made that decision in the immediate aftermath. I really honestly do. I think particularly had Tyler Robinson not survived to turn himself in, I think it would have been probably an effective appointment to put Erica Kirk at the top. But as the case began to unfold as retired green beret snipers began looking at the wound saying that doesn't look right as military operators, more and more of them came online and started looking at this and thought, that doesn't look like a 30 odd six shot to me. And then people started looking and saying, what are all these people doing around Charlie Kirk? Did they even try to save his life under the table? Why, why does it not look like they're rendering life-saving aid? What are they doing? It looks like they're just grabbing stuff. What are all these people doing? People doing handoffs. Who's running around in the background? Where did Mikey McCoy go? Why did he grab his ears and wander off? As people started asking these questions, it became a real obstacle having somebody there who is relatively unqualified and acting very strange. A $3,000 cape. Daisy's telling me that's a $3,000 cape. I could have made one for 50 bucks. Give me a bolt of cloth and some scissors. I could have tied it like I do Tilly's bandanas. Just double knot those babies, leave a couple fingers so that she doesn't choke. That's fantastic. That's fantastic. A $3,000 cape at the New York book summit. What is that? Oh, we've got, we've got the actual cape. Are you serious? Wow. It's a $4,000 cape. I'm not, I don't falter for wearing nice clothes. I falter for wearing a cape. That's what I falter. I don't falter for wearing a $4,188 item of clothing. That's what I look. If you want to wear expensive clothes, that's great. You want to wear a cape? That's where you and I part ways. I'm just being honest, ladies and gentlemen. That's where I part ways with you. I can no longer accept the cape. Now, I want to switch gears ever so slightly. Actually, I want to show you this here. Andrew Colvette has weighed in. He must not be in the know. I leave open the possibility my source is wrong. I don't think he is, but I leave open the fact that my source may be wrong. But on this thing today, Andrew says news to me that Erica Kirk may step down as CEO. Remain on as chair of TPSA. I mean, look, your reporting is only good as your source. I leave open the possibility the source is wrong. But I would think if one of them was wrong, it's going to be Andrew Colvette. Because I don't want to go on and say any more. But Andrew, I'm not sure you're going to survive the transition either, my friend. That's probably why you don't know about it. I'm being honest. Go eat some more food. Back to stress eating, big boy. All right. I want to switch gears because somebody found a nice piece of video that I had not seen until today. And we get several good pieces of information out of it. We know that on the day Charlie passed, there was an unusual set of circumstances that took him far away from campus to Salt Lake City. He left. He appeared at a restaurantology event. We've played a portion of that on the show in the past. He did a sort of a Q&A type interview with a leader of a trade group of restaurant owners, restauranteurs. It was in Salt Lake City. They flew into Salt Lake City, landed the plane, and then rented some SUVs and drove down to Orem, Utah, where Utah Valley University is. That's where the event was, where his life, unfortunately, was taken. There were a couple of things we've noticed. Number one is most of his security team, in fact, nearly all, I would say, of his security team were in Orem while he was in Salt Lake City. In the video I'm about to show you, I don't see any security at all. I see no security anywhere in the vicinity. And Charlie Kirk's just out on a public highway talking. So I was a little concerned by that. That's the first thing we noticed. The second thing we noticed is. It actually caused him to be late for the event at Orem. And so late, in fact, that he had to, like, hustle up and go to a bathroom in order to get down and be seated, I think, six or eight minutes after the event was scheduled to start. The event at UVU was scheduled to start at 12 o'clock sharp, and it did not. In fact, there was going to be a little meet and greet with some of the volunteers beforehand. That got canceled because he was late. It's a little unusual, I would say. be an hour away from all your security detail at a public event at an event where people are. And he was with a guy named Christopher, we believe. He was with a guy named Christopher. Christopher is the one member of the security team I don't think anybody can identify. Candace has shown pictures of him. I think we showed pictures of him a couple of episodes ago. All over social media, people have shown pictures of this Christopher. Nobody can seem to identify him. Nobody has a last name. Nobody even knows if that's really his first name. Brian Harpole on the Sean Ryan show did reference a guy named Chris. So we believe that's probably the same person. On the dash of Charlie Kirk's Denali as he's driving in, there's the name Christopher. This is Christopher's iPhone. But I think it's a little unusual that there's a guy named Christopher no one's ever heard from, that no one knows his true identity. And he seemed to be more the body man that day than Dan Flood or Brian Harpole. So that's kind of number one thing we've noticed. But now we have imagery coming out from that morning. Now we'll open up here. Oh, wrong one. Hold on. That's not the one I intended to open with. There, that one. So there's the Denali he comes in on. This is a short video. It starts here and then it backs out. This is obviously someone parked across the street that noticed Charlie and pulled out their camera and started filming. Now, let's just put this in the context of the fact that he'd be dead an hour and a half later. Is there anyone remotely concerned by this situation? That he's out on a public street? That as we zoom in, there is no security around him? He's completely exposed. Yet there's somebody sitting across the street that far away that recognizes him, pulls out a camera and starts filming. You guys remember the last thing Charlie texted? One of his security professionals the night before. I'm somewhat worried the left is going to kill me or maybe I'm somewhat worried they are going to kill me. Remember, you only have one job. It's to keep me alive. Remember that? Somebody climbed up on a roof in front of a crowded amphitheater. May have taken a shot from there. Either way, he left dead. Then he had like 12 security people standing around him and he still died. Here you have him exposed on a public street in Salt Lake City. No security to be found. No one standing next to him. No one looking around, making sure nobody's sitting across the street with eyes on him. I would argue this would have. It would have been an easier shot if you wanted to take Charlie out. It seems closer. He seems more open. Why was there no security around? This is a pretty damning image right here. It's a pretty damning image right there. Now, so we got this inside the car. I mean, look how easy that would be. A couple other things we noticed. One, first thing we notice here when this picture clears up, right behind, right, I guess, in front of the mail car, there's a guy getting in the car. That is Nate Walker. So now we know Nate was up there with him. I think that was a question before. But now we know Nate Walker was actually in Salt Lake City with him. We don't know who that woman is with him. Is that somebody from the restaurant event or whatever? But look, look how open Charlie is. I don't know who this guy is on the left with the beard. He's not wearing the Charlie Kirk security uniform of the day, which seemed to be brown or gray flannel with brown shoes with white soles. He doesn't seem to be close enough to Charlie to prevent any harm. And I don't see anybody between Charlie and the car. Except three people who seem to be with this trade group because they come out here in a moment. I'm going to turn the volume down. I don't know if there is volume, but I'm going to turn it down. And they seem to come out in a minute and start taking pictures. Now, he obviously had a chance to change clothes there. Obviously, he had a chance to change clothes because these are the clothes he would be in when he passed away at Utah Valley University. But I find this kind of shocking, frankly. I'm going to let it play for just another minute because there's one more thing we notice. Well, you kind of got to see it before she zooms in. But both of the SUVs are there. You remember Blake Neff didn't know where he went? He just went to mark time. If you look behind this postal carrier right here, you've got a postal carrier driving what looks to be some kind of minivan or something. And both SUVs are right there. I don't know if you can see this super clearly through all the YouTube compression, but it's there. You've got the car Charlie's going to get in and the car behind him, which seems to be a mostly identical Yukon. Here's the point I'm going to make on this. I think this is evidence Blake Neff is a liar. In my opinion, allegedly. Allegedly, Blake. Keep your lawyers at bay, Blake. I'm covered with allegedly here. I think this makes Blake Neff a liar. Blake Neff came into an accident. X space. I'm not going to play it because I think there was some foul language on there and people were talking over each other. I'll just explain what happened. I've explained it before and I think I've played the clips. Blake Neff went into an X space a few months ago. While he was in the X space, someone asked him. I think it was Muppet Masher on X. He said, hey, Blake, before the event, where did you go? He said, what do you mean? I flew in on a private jet. Where did you go? Did you go to the event with Charlie? No, I didn't go to the event with Charlie. Well, where did you go? I don't know. I'm paraphrasing here subject to getting some of the words wrong, but I think the sentiment is correct. And he eventually says, I don't know where we went. The guy says, well, did you go to Orem? Did you go to the college campus? Did you, where did you go? And he said, I don't know. We went somewhere and marked time. I think this right here, this image here with both the SUVs lined up back to back as Charlie's leaving, including the SUV that Blake showed up. In with Danny Phillips driving. I think it's probably a 99.9% certainty that Blake is sitting in the backseat of that SUV right there. And Danny Phillips is driving. If you went to the event to mark time, if you just parked behind Charlie's SUV, how would you not know where you were? The answer to that question would be easy. Well, where did you go before the event? Well, we drove to the event. We just didn't go into the Salt Lake City event. We just sat in the parking lot. But I went somewhere to mark time indicates you did not go to the event. You did not go sit in the parking lot. You didn't sit in this alleyway. You didn't sit on site. You must have gone somewhere else to mark time. Where did you go? I think this is evidence he's lying or that they, well, let me say this. I think it's evidence they might've gone somewhere else. I also think it's noteworthy that Blake was in the back seat and Danny was driving. Indicates to me that when they went somewhere to mark time, someone else may have been in the front seat. Surely Blake is not so high profile that he's like, Daniel, drive me around. Show for me, fat boy. Yes. I'm going to sit in the back back here all by my lonesome while we mark time. And I'll be back here. Should you need anything? Young Daniel. I think it's far more likely there was someone in the front seat. And when they showed back up, that person jumped in the car with Charlie or they dropped them off and they went somewhere and Blake just thought, hell, I'm already in the back. I'll just hang out back here. Go on, follow him, follow him to Orem. I think that's probably more likely. So the questions on the table for Blake are, is that where you were the whole time? If so, why don't you know that? Were you just at the restaurant ology event that appears to be in Salt Lake kind of downtown area? Just parked in the parking lot or parked in an alleyway with Charlie's SUV. And you're just hanging out. I don't know what you're working on, but working on your computer, playing snake on your Nokia 3310. I mean, what are you doing? I think that question is now still on the table. Seeing what we see here. Because by the time they leave the restaurant ology event to head back to Orem, the SUV is very much back at the restaurant ology event. It's not like they went to Dunkin. And just kind of hung out at Dunkin. And when I say Dunkin, I know in this case, I have to specify Dunkin Donuts. I'm talking about Dunkin Aviation. Not like they went to Dunkin Donuts. And hung out at Dunkin Donuts eating, you know, ice drinking iced caramel macchiatos. © transcript Emily Beynon because then you'd say, well, we went and got a cup of coffee. But I think he should now be forced to answer this question again. Where did you go, Blake? And to the extent you're unwilling to answer it, I think we have at least a reasonable suspicion that you were up to no good. I think this raises reasonable suspicion you were up to no good. You're sitting in the back seat of a car that Danny Phillips is driving. No one's in the front seat. You're parked directly behind Charlie Kirk. And you don't know where you were. You don't remember if you went to the event. You don't remember where you went. Are you on narcotics? I'm not joking. Do you take drugs? Is there some reason you would not have your mental faculties that morning to remember where you went or that night to remember where you stayed? Because on that same X-Base, he was unable to say where he stayed that night, whether he stayed in Orem or something. Salt Lake, he said he thought he stayed in Orem. That's where UVU is. The rest of the team stayed in Salt Lake. He came back a few days later, I think, and tried to correct that and say he actually stayed in Salt Lake with everyone else. I don't know that I believe that either. I think these people are fundamentally dishonest people. I genuinely do. I genuinely think they're blatantly, fundamentally dishonest people. And I'm beginning to see that every single piece of evidence that comes out tends to favor that. Tends to favor that interpretation. There's no way you didn't know where you were if you drove to the event and parked behind Charlie's SUV and waited for him to finish his interview. That's not marking time. That's just like hanging out. That's just sitting there waiting for him to finish. Marking time is like, I know he's going to be done at 11. We've got to be back by 11. So let's make sure by 1045 we're headed back that way. So that we're in line with his SUV when it's time to go. So that Charlie's not late. Now, I would suggest TPUSA. This is an obvious security failure the entire day. From now on, when one of your protectees is out and about, maybe put a security guy on him. Maybe put, maybe survey the danger a little better. Because if somebody's across the street recording you and zooming in, you're going to be in trouble. You're going to be in trouble. They can take you out. And he had said the night before he feared that was going to happen to him. Feared so much that they upped the number of security personnel they had. He was asking them about the lay of the land. And he said, remember, you have one job tomorrow. Okay, well, we're that concerned. We're going to put one guy on you, but he's not going to be standing anywhere near you while you're out in public. We're just going to have him. I guess in the car while you're out taking pictures on a public road while people across the street recognize you and you're a sitting duck and they zoom in on you. I think there's one more question. Who the hell took this video? Who was this? I don't know that we have an answer. We know what tick tock it showed up on, but I don't know that we know. I don't know that we know who actually took the video. So I. That's just my recommendation. That's that's my recommendation. Now, if you believe, as I do, if you believe, as I do, that whether or not you agreed with everything, Charlie Kirk said that he was a once in a generation talent, that he's essentially irreplaceable. I mean, there are people like that. Right. Rush Limbaugh was that way. You know, there were there was a lot of discussion who would take over his radio show after he passed. The answer is really nobody. I think Clay Travis and some guy named Buck. I can't think of his last name. I think they sort of have that spot, but it's not the same. It's not the Rush Limbaugh show. And obviously, TPSA went with Erica Kirk. It's obviously not the same. The organizations in free fall, people aren't showing up to their events. They're they're giving away tickets and. Canceling events and Erica is now mailing in sort of may or may not be AI generated 30 second videos instead of showing up at places. I think there's a lesson there in for everyone else. I think there's a lesson there for everybody else remaining behind at TPSA. There's this. Approach they've taken where they get snarky and mean where they're hiring a bunch of people. Or they've got all these hanger ons and all they do is attack, attack, attack, attack, attack. And they try to create dissension and discord in and call everyone liars and con man and demonic and all this kind of stuff. I would argue that a far better approach would be to just be honest. Take the Charlie Kirk approach. You might have disagree with Charlie Kirk's foreign policy. I certainly did until the very end. I did notice the last year or two. He started coming around to see things my way. And not that he even knew who I was. I sincerely doubt he did. But his foreign policy views started aligning with mine a little more towards the end of his life. But I would argue that the snarkiness, the meanness is having the opposite effect that you guys think it might be having. And maybe it's time to retire it. I'm not one of those people that want to see TPSA fail necessarily. I want to see this iteration of TPSA fail. I think that what you guys have turned it into is horrific. And I don't want to see it fail. But the idea that there's a place, a common ground for conservative college students to sort of call home, I don't think there's anything fundamentally wrong with that. I think that probably serves a pretty good purpose. Whether they divide up into chapters or they just have a social media feed they follow or anything like that. I mean, there's good in that, right? I'm a big fan of speech. I'm a big fan of free speech and political expression. I think people have a right to congregate with other like-minded people, whether that's in their church or political groups. I was a big fan of the Tea Party. I actually kind of like the Occupy Wall Street movement. I didn't like their objectives and their ideals, but I like the fact that there was some sort of common ground for people to sort of air out their grievances. Wasn't a big fan of the Black Lives Matter movement, only because it sort of turned violent at times. But to the extent things don't turn violent, I kind of like when people have a common source of inspiration. I'm a big fan of national holidays, I'm a big fan of things like the Super Bowl, not because I care who wins the Super Bowl, but because I like when everybody's sort of doing the same thing. I love driving around neighborhoods near Christmas and everybody's got decorations up, driving around near Halloween, I don't even like Halloween. I think I hate that, it's one of my least favorite holidays, but I like the fact that everybody sort of decorates. It gives us a sense of shared identity, it gives us something in common when we have something in common with our neighbors. We are less likely to be violent, we're less likely to seek things like revolution and overthrowing stuff. We're less likely to turn desperate. We sense commonality, and to the extent that TPSA provides some measure of commonality on college campuses, I'm in favor of that. I actually am in favor of that. I don't love that they're pushing this crazy foreign policy political position on people and basically using it as a litmus test whether you're a good conservative or whether you're a good person. I don't like that. I don't like their new obsession with our greatest ally, or reverting to maybe their old obsession with our greatest ally. I'm not a big fan of that necessarily. But I'm not one of these people, and I know there are some, like Z Cohen just wants TPSA to fail, that's it. She hates conservatism, she hates conservatives, and she wants them to fail. I'm not a fan of that. I'm not a fan of that at all. But what I think you guys need to take away from this is, you're causing it to fail. This approach you guys have taken, that anybody who asks the obvious questions at this point, did Tyler Robinson kill Charlie Kirk? Oh, you're the enemy. Why? Why? Did Charlie Kirk believe the foreign policy objectives being advocated for right now by the Trump administration? Did he believe those were correct at this point in time? Is Erica Kirk the right person to lead TPSA? Speaking of, you know who's coming around on my way of thinking? Let me see if I can find it. Where did it go? I can't remember what word she used. Well, we'll just read through it, because I want to find this. This is this, and I don't want to waste a bunch of time looking for it. Let me pull the New York Times thing back up, because I think Erica Kirk is starting to maybe come around on this one particular issue, and I think it's noteworthy, if nothing else. Where did it go? She said. She's talking about Tyler. robinson and she it's the first time i've heard her say that she she doesn't 100 believe he did it now where did it go it shocked me when i read it but i can't find it though i can't remember if she used the word alleged daisy do you see it in there anywhere i can't remember how she said it now finally but i would i would strongly encourage people to stop attacking the people who have legitimate questions about what happened tpsa needs to stop attacking them they need to stop attacking them with their employees and their surrogates like blake neff and andrew colvette they need to stop attacking them with their little hangers-on and wannabes um on x and all these social media feeds they need to stop and here's why right now i read a poll today that i think 49 of americans polled identify as democrats only 39 identify as republicans that's great you know whatever who cares that's just a snapshot in time but then i read that in 2024 november of 2024 republicans actually had a two-point advantage in that same analysis meaning 12 have flipped they've primarily flipped on one issue the war in iran people are sick of it they're tired of it and when you guys come out and attack us for asking questions you're lumping everybody into the same set that you know you're trying to say oh these are just leftists trying to divide it no not at all i i'd be hard pressed to be described as a leftist most of the people i know would be hard-pressed to be described as leftists nevertheless we have questions nevertheless we want to know what happened to him we don't want to see someone who did not shoot charlie kirk go to jail for shooting charlie kirk if in fact he didn't did you find it there it is the man accused of murdering my husband that's the first time i've heard any hedging whatsoever now it's possible the new york times added that as a little bit of a hedge that was sort of a condition we'll publish this but we're not going to let you accuse him of doing it we're going to have to say the man accused of doing it but if those were indeed erica's words or blake neff's words or andrew kovac's words or whoever wrote that that's the first bit of hedging i've heard out of tp usa in a long time you remember erica kirk stood up and said the man who shot my husband i forgive him that was like 11 days in there was really no investigation yet they didn't even know how far the shot allegedly came from at that point i think we had barely i think i don't think we'd seen any of the video footage the footage from behind uh candace owens had just seen it a day or two before and reported on it this was very early on and it's been a consistent message ever over and over and over they just talked as if it's a fact that he's the one that did it that was the first little hedge we've gotten maybe it's a corner they're turning i don't know maybe it's a corner of the attorney but i would i would i would argue that you guys are doing more damage right now this is where i was headed with this and i'm kind of close with this you guys are doing more damage right now by pushing back on this investigation and by lumping anyone who has any questions in with the left you're damaging the right you're damaging the movement you claim to care about you're damaging the prospects for a success in an election that you guys claim to want if you call someone a leftist enough eventually they say well i guess i'm not one on the right i'm not voting for you if you don't want me and then they don't vote if they have any kind of influence they just tell other people i don't care if you vote or not you'd make up your own mind no i think what you guys need are people out there vociferously supporting people voting for conservative candidates and they're not going to do it not with your attitude because we don't want to reward people like you a lot of us on my side of this investigation a lot of us asking questions about who killed charlie kirk how and why view any success in the midterms as rewarding you and i don't want to reward you i don't want to reward you i don't want to reward bad behavior i don't want people like you in proximity to power i think you're dangerous that you're dishonest i think you're tarnishing the legacy of an otherwise good man and to the extent that getting obliterated will make you look bad i'm okay with that right now you've got a couple of months to fix it will you will you something tells me you're too prideful to fix it i'm just that's just my gut instinct that you're too prideful to fix this problem you've created you guys have run around attacking otherwise political allies and you've been doing it now for a year i don't know what it is you're covering up i don't know why it is you're afraid to answer questions i don't know why it is you only answer certain questions but you are attacking otherwise political allies people who have historically been political allies people have fought in the trenches for the same ideals you claim to want to succeed and have done so for decades i've been fighting in these conservative trenches for a couple of decades now publicly privately working with organizations working behind the scenes working in public and if you want to make an enemy out of people like me because i have questions about whether a 30 out 6 can do that limited amount of damage then then you're fighting the wrong fight it seems like you're hiding something it seems like you're covering something up and to the extent you guys are a-holes about it constantly time and time again over and over and over and even time someone asks a question a legitimate question like where's the road mike why would you want to know where the road mike is you sick well because it's relevant to the investigation and i believe you guys might have possession of it or at least the audio of it and there's real questions about whether or not it's relevant to the investigation and i believe you guys might have possession of it or at least the audio of it and there's real questions about whether or not it's relevant to the investigation and i believe you guys might have possession of it or at least the audio of it and there's real questions about whether or not it's relevant to the investigation and i believe you guys might have possession of it or at least the audio of it and there's real questions about whether or not it's relevant to the investigation and i believe you guys might have possession of it or at least the audio of it and there's real questions about whether or not it's relevant to the investigation and i believe you guys might have possession of it or at least the audio of it and there's real questions about whether or not it's relevant to the investigation and i believe you guys might have possession of it and i believe you guys might have possession of it and there's real questions about whether or not it's relevant to the investigation and i believe you guys might have possession of it and there's real questions about whether or not that she's a little awkward. I don't think as many people would ask questions. I heard from somebody recently, they were on vacation, and they met a nice couple. I won't say where they were, but they met a nice couple from the American South. You know, prototypical, upper-middle class, maybe 50s-year-old couple. And they noticed there was a TPUSA connection to this person. And the question quickly turned to, what do you think of Erica Kirk? I'm just telling you guys, it's not a hidden secret. It's a legitimate concern. Hello from the state formerly known as New Mexico. I'm one fan in Alamogordo. Go Max, Christ is King indeed. I saw that Trump was trying to change the name of New Mexico. Wouldn't the state legislature have to do that? Wouldn't the people of the state of New Mexico have to weigh in on that? The president doesn't name the states. Was he kidding? New Mexico is a fine state, by the way. It's a beautiful state. Kitty litter box, but beautiful. Maybe they were going to get CO and CK said, take me. I doubt it. I doubt it. Looking to Erica and John Casablanca. That would be John Casablanca, the American modeling agent, and Scout, who founded Elite Model Management. Credited with inventing the supermodel. Also the father of front man for the strokes. Never heard of him. Good advice, thank you. CK Edge. I know you get bent out of shape when I don't call your name. I don't look at everybody's name, but I do notice your picture pop up. CK, one year later episode, I learned two things. Frank Turk went to dinner night before with Blake Neff in New York. And Danny Phillips, which explains part of Blake Neff timeline. Frank Turk claims Charlie Kirk referred to Blake Neff as his secret weapon. Code for Judas. Oh, where did you learn that? CK, one year later episode. I didn't see that. Frank went to dinner the night before with Blake Neff and Danny Phillips. I did not know that. But that's, in light of the fact that Blake Neff and Danny Phillips were just out marking time and don't know where they were, that raises a lot of questions. That raises a lot of suspicions to me about Frank Turk the night before, if I'm being honest. I've been here since Google Trends. I haven't missed a single show. We actually talked about doing a Google Trends summary show today, but have put that off for a few days. But thank you. That's George. Baron, you keep us both hopeful and sane. Thanks, my B. Christ is king indeed. Who's George? Oh, the dog? Had to make that big to see it. Thank you. I'm so happy I finally caught you live today. I swear I've still been watching and contributing. Thank you, Sabrina. Your contributions are greatly appreciated. That was a very kind one, by the way. Thank you very much. And we love the replay crew. I'm a big fan of the replay crew. In fact, there's more people on the replay crew than the live crew. You guys didn't know that, but it's true. They've got you outnumbered like two to one. Sometimes three to one. And one show last week was like 11 to one. I have no idea what happened. I have no idea why the live crew was small that day, but the replay crew, like, was huge. Thank you. Did you do any research on the restaurant owner to see if he's connected in that mess everyone else is with kids? The rest owner? I'm assuming you're saying restaurant. I don't know what you're talking about. What restaurant owner? You said the. That's a definite article. I don't know who you're talking about. Do you know what she's talking about? I mean, maybe. The only restaurant I know of is, the only restaurant I know of is Pengwich, but I wouldn't know anything about, I don't really know the kids. I don't know. Oh, I think the referencing last night's topic. Oh. No, I've not done any research on the restaurant owners in Pengwich, if that's what you're asking about. And by the way, Edge's comment, that's why I popped in. I guess Frank, Frank has a video he put out yesterday called like one year later or something. Oh, okay. Yeah, I'll have to watch it. I'll send you the link too. Yeah, send me the link. I'll watch it. As much as it pains me to, to watch Frank Turek, I'll do it for the cause. I'll do it to prep for this program for you. I'm watching for you guys. I'm not looking forward to that. That's like going to the dentist to get like 13 cavities filled, have two root canals and some sinus surgery while you're in there. I just can't imagine anything more painful than going to a dad, watching a dadgum Frank Turek episode. Ugh. I'll do it. I'm going to take the slings and arrows for you guys. You don't have to. I mean, you can. Howdy, Brian. I believe that if this autopsy was in any way real, then the stomach and chest burn explosion marks would have been included. Thoughts? If it's a real autopsy and there were real wounds on the stomach, yeah, I think they would be evident. What I'm interested in, in addition to the, let me pull your comment down so I can show you what I'm talking about. We showed that image of what appeared to be some negative space right here, I'd be very curious to see if there's anything on the autopsy about that, but there also appeared to be like two or three marks right here in the center of the chest on an image, one of the images of him being carried away. It might have been the one I released. I'll be interested to see if the autopsy talks about those or has any pictures of those. Of course, we probably won't see the pictures. You watched what because of me? I don't know what that means. Love you, my B. First super chat. We are high IQ from, Lafayette, Louisiana. Crisis King, indeed, indeed. Thank you for joining the super chat crew. Just tell me the ultimate outcome of the trial. I can't. How would I know that? I can't possibly tell you that right now. I mean, if you're just saying wait till the end until I tell you what happened. This AM working at Gate for Airline when a PAX came to board, it was a person we're looking to get their alibi. Wanted to say, hey, so bad. Where were you on 9-8 and 9-10? When a passenger came to board, it was a person we're looking to get their alibi. Oh, wow. So you work. Okay, let me translate. You work for an airline. You're working the gate. Someone's boarding the plane, presumably. And one of the people boards the plane you're looking to get an alibi for on that date. So it's, you know, Brian Harple, Andrew Colvette, Erica Kerr, you know, the normal crew. You're going to get your alibi for it. Interesting. Did you ask? No, that would be inappropriate. This pastor's wife show was wild. The husband's mannerism, flaring hands when he does the interview reminds me of Blakey when he lies. Quivering lip. Yeah. So one thing I really stuck out to me on that was when the guy asked, do you feel responsible in any way for, do you have any responsibility in her passing? And he goes bananas. He goes bananas. Oh, what a great question. What a great. Yeah, it became an even greater question after that big man. Not the way to answer that question. Sorry if these are spoilers, but it's still a good show. Professor B, I watched the docu-series last night to prepare for class. I was in a very similar marriage as a very young woman and I could have easily had the same fate if not for my family. Christ is clean, king indeed. I'm sure glad you didn't. I'm sure glad you didn't, Kelly. Thanks for joining us. Evidence you didn't share the same fate. But Aaron just got back from Dave Matthews Band weekend at the Gorge in Washington State. It's an excellent place to them. I was going to wear my, I love you, my B tank top, but it was too cold. Appreciate your too cold for a tank. It's like 150 degrees here. I walk outside and burst into flames. It's a big country. Volunteering as den mother for North Georgia. You've been mentioning your elder role in the podcaster group. I'm old enough to be a mom to all of you. And here you are. You need a digital hug. Yeah, I was, I was taking my walk this afternoon. I do a walk around the neighborhood sometimes. And I was taking my walk and I ran into one of my neighbors, great neighbor, friend, known him since the day I moved in the house, really. And, and we were, we were reminiscing about the kids growing up and reaching different phases in life. And he was talking about, you know, not having time to fully enjoy each phase of life because life moves so quick. And I said, you're telling me I was just holding my grandchild before I walked over here. It still doesn't seem real. I'll tell you what though. It's, it's amazing. It's amazing. Baron blink once if you agree, blink twice if you don't. Okay, let me get the blinks out of the way so I can. Okay, I think I'm ready. Security and sound and visual teams and EF and AK and TB select few others all had their hands in the removal process of CK. All right, blinking now. Okay. So I'm going to go ahead and start the video. I'm going to go ahead and start the video. whenever i think of carol baskin i think of that blank carol baskin because that's how the tiger king referred to her the robbie harvey has done the most thorough investigation follow-up of micah's case imo check it out if interested i am interested i will check that out uh the more we learn the more people it seems had to have had knowledge of ck death plan how are the organizers keeping people quiet uh well i'm not suggesting that what you're saying is true but let's just assume it is true um meeting the same fate is a good way to keep people quiet the threat of meeting the same fate i went on a dateline binge today and in almost every episode the widow widower was a suspect or had to be ruled out why is it so difficult to understand for people i don't know i mean it i don't know i mean i would tell everybody this if your spouse goes missing or comes up don't talk because they i promise you they think you're a suspect don't say anything to the police i promise you they think you're a suspect get a lawyer work it out even if you had nothing to do with it there's some random occurrence on the other side of town i'll talk to you in the morning i gotta make a few phone calls first i'm absolutely going to cooperate but let me get in touch with a couple people before we talk i promise you they think you're a suspect i don't know why this one everyone just assumed you may get to this later but i think suzy skinner new wife lured her out there and was the female voice on the 9-11 911 call she blanked micah and used her phone to call 911 um boy that's dark i'll be honest it crossed my mind but that's dark that's dark um nevertheless i thought it i'm getting to watch you twice today i watched the member show with zach which was phenomenal bravo sir i thought so i thought so zach is a great guest he did a great job so thank you thank you uh jp miller was a wolf in sheep's clothing warned in matthew 715 similar to frank turk and rob mccoy in your opinion look to jesus not these men with bad fruit well i kind of brought that on with my opening didn't i happy birthday to me mrs c september people are great uh i agree big fan of september people i'm celebrating my birthday today thank you and your team for all you do jesus loves you and christ is king indeed thank you little red hen happy birthday happy birthday indeed uh is the divorce theory about to be taken mainstream that would be a real similarity if if updating their you know i think what you're referencing is charlie kirk allegedly i think candace reported that they were due to go on the monday following to update their end of life documents if that involves seeing a lawyer to formalize some sort of separation or i i think that would raise real suspicions i think that question needs to be answered a great opening b if case isn't closed why were they allowed to be here jury pool pollution hmm christ is our lord and savior why well if it's not closed with what case is it closed um let me get to this jury tampering for just a minute jury not tampering jury influence or jury whatever that's about the defendant not getting a fair trial it's not about the state not getting a fair trial there there's no like change of venue because too many people think the defendant's innocent that's not a thing the question is always in the context of the defendant's innocence that's not a thing the question is always in the context of do too many people here think the defendant's guilty in order that we can't get him a fair trial it's you've never seen the state go well judge everyone in town thinks he's innocent okay then why are you bringing the charges why are you bringing the charges if no one thinks he did it it's always the other way so investigating the crime asking whether or not the person did it is not enough i just noticed i got this beautiful new teddy roosevelt somebody uh mailed it to me to the p.o box but he was shiny there now you can see him that's teddy back there watching you guys watch it he's watching what is that it's um it's just teddy yeah so it's it's teddy but it's a it's a card on like on the back it's got a little brief bio on teddy okay yeah so i got like a little space you can write it it's a nonchalant i'm like wait a second well he was shining like it the the the video light was shining on him and he and you couldn't see him we've got to we've got to get teddy put up somewhere yeah yeah now he looks great that looks great back there that's teddy he's watching guys don't uh great opening okay if the case isn't closed why would they love it yeah jury pollution yeah hmm can you mentor some of the other podcasters dumb stuff isn't getting uh dumb stuff isn't great they need help navigating disagreement like adults you'd bring wisdom um i have offered some advice to a few of them they seem to not take it i don't know what else to say the few i've been been in touch with i've said don't do this don't go down this road you don't want to get involved in all this stuff just walk away and they don't seem to want to take my advice so what can i do uh is it possible will the pastor create a name for the pastor in the future i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know an ai recording of his wife calling 9-1-1 thereby making it possible for him to off his wife um except she seemed to be answering the questions he would have to anticipate the questions do the recording and i don't know i don't think that's possible i don't think that's possible can you please clip some funny shorts on youtube of your show you're hilarious and authentic and i think some funny clips is sometimes needed we did have somebody very early on in the program and they were hilarious if i do say so myself but uh they hadn't been done in a while um i could talk to the editor of the clips channel about finding a few funny bits to string together i love you baron would you ever consider putting ck's photo you must not watch very often you must not love me too much because i've answered this question a thousand times i will answer it one more time only this is going to stay blank this is going to stay blank i'm not adding anybody anytime soon um i'm irritated with the way that this picture had to come down i'm irritated with the fact that the president couldn't leave well enough alone and just stay out of a foreign war when the signature plank of his platform for all three campaigns was no more foreign wars and so for that reason among others his picture came down and i think it makes a greater statement when people say why is it blank so please i appreciate it i appreciate the contribution but i am i could do a compilation of people asking me that very question and the answer is always going to be no my gut tells me that jp guy is guilty the whole interview he did towards the end and kept repeating that's a good question was so cringe yeah at least he did a um at least he did an interview i mean i'm not saying he's guilty by the way i'm not suggesting he's guilty i just i don't know enough about the case but man i've got questions i don't think she did it herself i'll say that uh slow learners took him a year to realize ek sucks yeah i don't you know at least they're learning b my hub's family is from ufala he used to live in country club of alabama we first met there my father-in-law worked in law enforcement for 40 years and has seen some things any update on your wife's family member's case no update no update uh what a small world though i wonder if he lived there when i did my case there that would have been in 2007 maybe i may not hear you read this but i think i heard tr is being kept at the police station not in county jail is this true i doubt that highly strongly doubt that too late they already ran tpsa to the ground we know too much about suspected operations there will be no organization for her to come back to that's assuming they would ever have her back i stopped watching the pastor's life to listen to guys to listen excuse me guys she didn't remove herself just saying i don't think she did either and if you're gonna doubt whether she did it the list becomes very short of people who might have been involved like two or three people tops mikey just did an interview in which he said charlie hand selected coo the cfo he did not mention ceo that was interesting yeah that is interesting i need to find that interview too where are all these interviews uh baron after charlie was taken down the woman directing traffic under the pass sure looks an awful like a lawful lot like the woman who was filming behind trump and butler after these shots rang out there too uh i don't think it's the same person both both of them have been identified curious if you heard mikey's interview this morning any thoughts or a count on times he said young people i have not seen that i haven't either no not yet but i'm gonna get that i'll send you that in the frank turek video because i found that one yeah thank you i'd like to watch them both i'll take the slings and arrows I do not want to do it it's dirty work it's like crawling in the sewage to unclog something somebody's got to do it what do you do for a living I crawl in sewage to unclog things yeah well that sounds like a bad job but I have to watch Frank Turek and Mikey McCoy oh gosh how do you manage I know I know pastor uses pulpit to cover for his sins familiar yes very went to Sprouts grocery today in Fort Worth cashier was drinking goat water not a sponsor I commented about it being goat water she said yes yes Baron and I love it ah you have high IQ Sprouts employees good to hear good to hear that makes me happy let's shop at Sprouts how much wood would it would chuck chuck if a wood chuck could chuck wood um I don't know do they not chuck wood Baron you are awesome that's all thank you appreciate that Lauren Lagrasso Salem Waterstone's recent documentary 910 called can you hear me now around in the last alleged last unreleased interview with CK I have much distrust it's going to be saving western civilization a la Jahama I believe well I'll watch it too how much is going to be him being AI do you think he's going to appoint Erica in there I have Tyler was coerced to play now let now that just raised a great question for me how can they take her down when Charlie appointed her that going against his wishes or is it an admission you know Tyler was coerced to play a part in the unaliving of chuck despite the reason he was captured doesn't that make him not guilty at least regarding the case Tyler's online history aside it does not make him it makes him not guilty of aggravated murder now he might be guilty of aggravated murder depending on his level of involvement now you gotta be careful on that but certainly not for pulling the trigger which is the allegation charlie kirk equals julius caesar ended by brutus in the senate imo at two brute anyone ever figure out where the backpack came from the boot of charlie's suv could it be the serial killer for dummies starter pack that was found christ is king indeed go max baron for charlie praying in dublin uh i don't know if anyone ever figured out whose backpack it was what might have been in it or whether it was the famed bus stop backpack i don't know 501c3 in order to be tax exempt no mixing church and state tpsa shouldn't be fundraising or endorsing political parties no exemption status that's a that's a close one that's a it's an issue i've veered away from honestly um i'm not sure we have a complete understanding of that i i'll say this in short i agree with you 501c3 should not be endorsing candidates but what level of involvement may they have i think there's some some gray there is the most obvious reason why ck is gone taking over their operation it's crystal clear i agree is there anybody here from liverpool if not then i'm your first scouse grand jury member i've watched you since day one we like straight talk where i live i like your style sir the hell's a scouse scouse liverpool english is called scouse the distinct accent dialect and cultural identity of people from liverpool england as well as a traditional meat stew welcome scouse jai you're glad to have you here are churches that are painted black inside really churches well that's a sore subject i mean i don't i'm not gonna get into that the absolute lack of beauty of the church is a source subject i mean i don't i'm not gonna get into that the absolute lack of beauty of the church is a source subject i mean i don't i'm not gonna get The absolute lack of beauty in so many of today's churches is like what our government does by making government buildings grotesque. Well, I will agree with the second part. The black churches thing is a relatively new phenomenon. I mean, I think 30 years ago, there weren't very many, if any. My kids are homeschooled and they went to a co-op a few years ago that met in one of these churches. And I went to the kind of meet your teachers night or whatever. And we met in the main church building. And it was so dark. It was so dark. I got the creepiest feeling in there. Like everything was painted black. Things that weren't painted black had like black shades or black drapes around. The stage was black. The actual stage itself was black. All the backdrop, all the ceiling, everything was painted black. And it felt so unlike any church I'd ever been to. Now, if you go to a church that way, I'm not judging your church. I'm not judging this church. It was just weird to me. It was very different from what I expected. And I would not have described it as beautiful. But is it still a church? I mean, that's up to the individual congregation, I think. Google vintage church in Belton, Texas. Look at the reviews. My family attended this church for three years. I already did that for you just now. I don't know. I don't know why. The reviews are great. It's like 4.9. It's like 4.9 stars. Everyone's like, I love this church. So I don't know why. And also, they do this on the Make Heaven Crowded tour. If they're actually going to the vintage church in Belton, that's not Austin. That's not what? It's not Austin. They said it's a vintage church in Austin. Remember, they did that in LA. Yeah, they always name the biggest city next to it. Yeah. They did it in Nashville, too. They met in Murfreesboro, which is like 45 minutes away from Nashville. Yeah. I'm like, it's like a totally different. But yeah, I don't know. The reviews on that. The reviews on that place are great. I didn't see anything weird, so I already looked. Okay. Yeah, I just did a little scan myself. I saw one negative, and everything else was five stars. My hubby thinks it's funny that if I nod off during one of your shows, not because of you, because of insomnia and lack of sleep, but your voice is the only one that migrates into my dreams, I can wake up and still tell him what I heard in my dream and be pretty spot on. Crisis king indeed. I will say that, A, A, Thank you for listening, even in your sleep. I hope they're good dreams. I had the wildest dream last night. I woke up in a state of panic and terror. I'd forgotten about it until Mrs. Coleman reminded me this morning. She's like, do you remember waking up in the middle of the night last night, like in chaos? Yes. As a matter of fact, I do. I heard the word hello, and it was so loud. And right in my face. It was like someone was right over the top of me and went, hello. I mean, I was like, ah, it took me a long time to get back to sleep. I was panicked. My heart rate probably went from 42 to like 185 in one second. It scared the bejeebus out of me. I was cooked as the kids would say I was cooked. So I hope that doesn't happen when you're listening to this show. But in case you're asleep, hello. Sorry. This is why Charlie left the pro blue and white cause. Once he passed, they took the offer to have TPSA taken to the next level. TK couldn't justify blue and white's actions. That's certainly one avenue of speculation. JD Vance, end of times comment. Your take? Okay. Yeah. So I saw the Tim Dillon take on this. Let me just say I agree with him. If you didn't hear it, JD Vance basically said, yeah, you know, people complain that our policies could bring about the end times. Well, if that happens, that happens. Bro. Let's not bring about the end times. And he's like, yeah. And if it doesn't bring about the good times and everybody's successful and prosperous for the next couple of centuries, that's good too. And Tim Dillon had a great analogy. He said, yeah, that's like the pilot coming on the mic and be like, yeah, we might. The actions were taken up here in the cockpit might cause us to crash and burn, but we might land in Phoenix and everybody will go get their bags. And that'd be cool too. No, no, no. My friends. One of the great. Ironies and all of this middle Eastern war stuff is that I've been told for like 30 something years that some of the people over there leading some of these countries are like nihilistic and they're trying to bring about the end times and they, they want to do this. And that, to bring back their Messiah or their, what I, I hear this all the time. I know you've heard it too. I cannot be the only person who's heard all this. And then I listened and it's supposed to distinguish them from us. And then I listened to people in America saying, yeah, we need to fight this. Cause this will bring Jesus back. You made the end times like that. Have you read the book? You know what that means? I just, I just wonder like, does, does anybody not take a step back and look and say maybe we shouldn't do things we think are going to bring about the end times let the end times come when they come and we'll do our best here in the meantime let's not try to usher anything in saturday night my husband and i went out to eat when our server came he said welcome in and my brain continued welcome in welcome in well he should have said that he might have been a fan he might have made a connection that same church in austin has an event called experience our greatest ally 2027 next year hosted by guess who rob mccoy on brand that's all i can say is i mean it's right on brand and and again andrew colvette that's this is why people are hanging up these flags if you're indeed not the one doing it this is why they're doing it because this is what they expect from you people fun fact castoreum is a natural flavoring made from the beaver's backside gland used for cooking and it's a natural flavoring made from the beaver's backside vanilla strawberry and raspberry yum that that that is a fun fact i think did i hear you right when you said you haven't met the amazing daisy you both work so well together nice to see mrs coleman and nurse casey your dream team uh you heard me correct and thank you for the uh kind words appreciate it you did hear me correct uh the way you say the word was sounds exactly like one of my favorite voices of all time keith morrison of dateline and that just tickles me i don't know that i know who keith morrison is but i believe you and i appreciate the compliment i didn't know i said that until you guys started pointing it out it makes certain people look more guilty what does what is it uh charlie leaves the pro blue and white cause then charlie is taken out and now tp usa is focused on our greatest ally and making it all the more all about the blue and white cause the puzzle pieces are coming together i mean it sure seems that way it sure seems that way he was pushing back on that on some of their foreign policy positions and now he's gone and they've gone all in on those same foreign policy positions almost seems like he was in the way of those foreign policy i mean i i agree with you uh when tpsa announces this that will also confirm the legitimacy of the sources speaking with you and candace ah i agree that's why i did it just to let them know i know they can deny it all they want i know today's my baby avery's 21st birthday can you yell happy birthday so she can hear you in morgantown west virginia at west virginia university please and thank you happy belated to mrs coleman happy birthday avery that was the echo from morgantown it made it i'm starting ocia tomorrow they mentioned that twice as many people signed up this year than usual which i thought was really interesting more people realizing christ is king yes you know our parish has had to do multiple ocia classes for the first time ever we used to get like 10 people to sign up for the first time ever and we had to do multiple classes for the first time ever we used to get like 10 people to sign up for the first time ever and we had to do multiple classes or 12 sign up i think we had 50 something last year and more this year something's happening something is afoot uh my cousin is pastor stephen martin of vintage church he's going down a dark path he also created the american pastors guild with rob mccoy i'm deeply concerned for him thank you for all you do oh is that the guy in the picture that's the guy yeah i was gonna i have i'll show you i'm not gonna pull it i'm not gonna pull it just just put a link on the run i'll pull it okay i'll put it in our private chat oh okay well then i'll have to pull well okay i'll put in the run yeah that'll pull it up on the other computer um wow dark path you say i could have guessed that i could have guessed that all right i'm pulling it up let's see if this is share worthy what am i looking at here which one the it just opened to his profile it didn't open anything in particular um oh i can't say that i don't disagree with you but i can't say that i mean it would it would be on brand with tps the males that work at tpsa if he was but i can't say that i haven't been able to catch these live like i used to but i want to say thank you so much for all you do start reading the catholic bible and i've been taking oci classes i love it christ is king indeed i'm telling you something's afoot out there something's going on and i i think honestly it's the pushback to the foreign policy positions of a lot of these churches they find that the catholic church doesn't really take foreign policy positions it's a it's a global church it's not like america centric or centric to some particular country and i think i think there's comfort in that i love your show but barone from brissy australia i love the name of australian cities they're they're so different than any other any other country can't catch you live i love to listen on spotify when i'm watching each morning christ is king indeed um that's why we upload them usually within an hour or two after the show ends we go ahead and put it up on spotify so our early morning replay crew has that option a lot of people have spotify premium which allows them to watch without commercial interruption uh far fewer people have youtube premium which would allow them to watch without commercial interruption so the replay people we get a lot of replays on spotify um more so than we do on youtube but we have a very good replay crew on youtube as well uh my b sir who do you think would be the closest to moving tpsa back in the direction that charlie kirk had envisioned god bless you and your family god bless the usa thank you for your brilliance christ is king indeed i think what tp usa needs is not a big personality i think they need a tactician i think they need a tactician who will look at what tp usa has the assets it has available to it the college campuses the churches it's affiliated with and and try to figure out how to maximize its effect with the assets it already has rather than trying to align itself with a particular political figure and i think to its great dismay it's done that the last 11 years it's basically tied itself to trump's coattails and now that trump's popularity is waning it's hurting tp usa's ability to to be effective and so what i would think is get somebody in there who is a non-profit kind of guru who knows in other words the answer is it's probably no one you or i have ever heard of but somebody who can who can focus on what they do and what they're doing and what they're doing and what they do best which is take messages to college students that prepare them for a better life get out of the boomer game no offense boomers get out of the millennial game no offense millennials get out of the gen x game i'm in gen x no offense to me get back to the college campuses make that your priority and and seek funding from people who want to take that pro-america message to college campuses economic libertarianism christianity pro-america whatever it is you guys want to focus on but take that message to college campuses get out of the foreign policy game get let let college students work that out on their own get out of the um other country game let let let people figure that out on their own but go back to the heart of what made tp usa great not profitable great not wealthy beyond your wildest imagination but great tp usa was at its greatest when you guys weren't involved in all that stuff that's what i would recommend countdown came on and my wife and i and our little girl stopped making our plates and all three started dancing christ is king indeed shout out to my wife amber keep speaking the truth be god will protect you what does making our plates mean you mean like dinner making your dinner plate i i'm over here thinking you're on like a a clay plate and you're a pottery thing and you're like spinning plates like you're making plates i i did not understand what you were talking about tpsa are mobilizing into our churches and schools they think we wouldn't notice go max yeah it gets back to what i was just saying a second ago stop with the high school push even stop with all of that get back to college campuses get back to young people who can vote 14 year olds can't vote stop with the all the different outreach groups and tpsa faith and all that just get back to college campuses and get back to college campuses and get back to college campuses and get back to college campuses i saw the saddest picture of the other it was the inaugural Pick Up the Mic event and there were like 10 people there. Obviously, you guys have ruined your effect on college campuses. Drive back into that. Get right back into what made you great. Hello, RB. I want to thank you and the Grand Jury for all your prayers. I would ask that all of you continue to pray for me. If you don't mind, I don't mind. I'll continue to pray for you, Faith Aven. I'm having a thyroidectomy next Wednesday. God bless. And I didn't know that was a thing. But I will pray for you and I hope it goes well. And I hope, I'm assuming you'd have to take medication after that because thyroid produces hormones and things. But I will certainly pray for you and your surgeons. Oh, Captain, my Captain. Had someone at work that used to say that to me. I want to make sure you weren't that person. I'm studying John via a class called Precept Upon Precept and reading Bible commentaries. I truly love it. Charlie Kirk's Approaching People with Respect and Truth mimics Jesus' example, in my opinion. Christ is King, indeed. Well, John's my favorite book in the Bible. I love John. It's mystical. It's such a mystical book. More so than the other Gospels, which seem more like fact-based. Not that it's not fact-based, but you know what I mean. Tells the stories with flourish, and I like that. Keep up the good work. Charlie Kirk, said repeatedly he had no control over any of his social media, so anything that you're seeing more than likely was written by Andrew Colvette because Charlie said he had to go through him to do all of it. Yeah, but maybe Charlie said, hey, we're going to put up a post blasting the New York Times. Go through Andrew to put it up. Now, what my understanding was that the posts that Charlie really didn't have much say in were just the, like, morning Bible verses and stuff like that. That was more just Andrew manipulating people's religion, which makes sense from Hebrew Colvette. When EK told employees to talk to their director, about using PTO if they needed more time to grieve, I was done with her. 12 days after, I even looked past the casket post. But PTO, nah. P-T-freaking-O. Yeah. Yeah. It became a little too institutionalized. I think that's what I'm getting at with getting back to what makes you great. Get back to the ragtag group that's out there assaulting college campuses. Not in a good way. I mean, assaulting in the best way possible. Like, taking the team to college campuses and winning people over for pro-America messaging, for conservative ideals, values, pro-family values. Get back to the college campuses doing that. Stop worrying about your guys giving $10 million. Stop worrying about carrying 700 to 900 employees. Get back to what made it great. And stop with the casket photos. If I was an innocent EK, I'd call you and Candace. Reboot. I would take that call. I would definitely take the call from TPSA. If they said, hey, let's just get on a plane. Let's chat. Let's just, I would take a week off and I would evaluate how to go forward. I don't want enemies. Like, I'm not an enemy guy. I don't want social media enemies. I don't want TPSA enemies. That's not to mean I'm going to compromise my values, but to the extent I can find common ground with somebody, and they can explain things like Erica flew to Candace to sit down to try to clear the air, I would listen. I don't know that she'd be able to answer all my questions, but if she was, let's clear the air. Let's clear the air. Short of that, I'm going to keep going. She's backing down from TPUSA for a political run. Oh, I hope not. Oh, my gosh. You know how insufferable that would be? Yes, ma'am. Sorry to jump in. I'm about to hop off, but I wanted you to see this. I did this because I pasted the link in the run for you, if you want to see it. Oh, that's funny. That's funny. What is the Hindu Stand Times? It's just like a blog. No, I think it's from India. It's like a news thing. Oh. But if you want to pull it up, I have the. They're out scouring American headlines for clicks? I guess so, but if you do want to see it, I have the link in the run, but I'm going to hop off. All right. I trust my source. We'll see. We'll see how it shakes out. All right. Maybe it changes their mind. Maybe they say, oh, we can't give in. Okay, good. Let's dance. I will be looking for that. Thank you. Hi, Baron. I've had more impact. I've seen. I have some more important UVU documents. I'll be sending you in Canada soon. Thanks for all you do and being such a beautiful soul in this dark world. Jesus loves you. Jesus loves you too. Talks with two. Third option. EK knows exactly what she's doing and doing it intentionally. IMO, which would be disgusting. Thank you, B. Uh, that's an option. I guess. I guess. Uh, it's purposeful and they're rubbing our face in it. Seems that way. Feels that way a lot. Uh, did Charlie Kirk have access to his own social media or not? You've stated two different things now, so which is true? Well, listen, I've not stated two different things. I don't believe he had the ability to push play. Like, but I do believe he had the ability to tell someone I want to post this and they would post it. I don't believe he had the ability to tell someone I want to post this and they would post it. I don't believe he had the ability to post it. So that's two different things. That's what he said. He said he would text, uh, he would text what he wanted to tweet and then they would put it out or veto. Right. So that's not two different things. It's the exact same thing. I'm just saying that they could veto it. They obviously didn't. TPSA has the same issue as the administration. They're surrounded by a group of people that are used to getting their way by lying and buying. They don't hear truth. Yeah, it's been that way for a couple of years. Anyway, as a cradle Catholic, I can tell you, I've never known any Catholic who went to our greatest ally to find a husband. Well, there's one who said that's what she did. This is like all her stories indicate a deeply disturbed individual. She needs a prayer. She does indeed. She does indeed. It's the humiliation ritual been done 2000 years. Yeah, gosh. Sad. Still so strange to me the threat on his life was serious enough to meet with a priest yet no shared bed or goodbye kiss. My husband is a pilot so no specific threat but always riz. So we always kiss goodbye. Always risk. Yeah. There's a lot about the story that doesn't add up. I mean, my gut instinct is they were on bad terms. That's my gut instinct. And I'm allowed to have a gut instinct. I'm allowed to have a gut instinct and I have that gut instinct. I'm pregnant with my first girl. A girl! A list of all epics. So this should be a high IQ baby. Very high IQ. Put the headphones down on your belly. I bet she kicks more. Shut that thing off. Ow! I just did my toe on them. That hurt. Brilliant. Nicely done. Thank you. I appreciate that. Your comment was brilliant as well. AK loves your show and his recap of the debate was almost exactly how you described CO winning in the beginning by AW conceding 75% but in reverse. Yeah. He must be a fan. He's trying to up his IQ game. It's not working. He needs to watch more. Watch him twice, Andrew. Watch him twice. You're missing some stuff. You're multitasking. You can't do that. Laser focus. What are your thoughts on AK and Sneff's obsession on X with the Clancy case? I feel like it's a diversion from something they're plotting. Sigh out. I feel like the obsession is. I gave my thoughts on this the other day. So I don't want to do the whole segment again. But I really feel like they're trying to prove that social media can affect the trial outcome. When the case first came down the pike and everybody first became aware of it not too terribly long ago, it seemed pretty cut and dry. And then during the course of the trial, it seemed like they were losing the prosecution. All of a sudden, people were like, hey, wait a minute. This story's not adding up. This doesn't look right. Now, maybe the retrial will come with some different facts or different evidence. But for right now, it did not look ideal. And I think they wanted to prove kind of as a dry run for what's coming with Tyler Robinson that if the prosecution starts failing, which I anticipate will happen, the case won't look good. People will see the evidence go, this doesn't add up. This is not what we were promised. They want to be able to jump on social media and create this overwhelming narrative like they did with Lindsey Clancy. It didn't work. It didn't work at all. That's my gut. Mikey never left. He was in the video with Terrell. He came back. He did leave. He came back. What do you mean by leave? Like leave UVU campus? I'll agree with you. He didn't leave. Leave the immediate surroundings. He left. I promise you. I stopped drinking alcohol so I can age healthy, but I use a bottle of wine after watching my brother's dog. But I can use a bottle of wine after watching my brother's dog. No dog was as good as my boy. He's been gone six months and I miss him so much, but buy Tilly a treat. Tilly's a good dog. I will admit I don't like other people's dogs. That's not to say you shouldn't like your own dog or your dog's not amazing, but I don't know your dog and I was bitten very badly by a dog when I was young, so I'm a little nervous around other people's dogs. Has there been any confirmation whether or not UVU wouldn't allow Charlie to have the event elsewhere? That's per Brian Harpold. the UVU documents. have, says another area was being considered, but I don't know who made the final call. I don't know that we've gotten a firm answer on that. Add that to the list of things we'd like to know. Who made the call on putting it in that particular location? Was UVU, as rumors suggest, pushing to have it somewhere else? And did TPUSA, as rumors suggest, override that desire and demand that it be in that particular courtyard at that particular time? That's a good question, and we don't know the answer right now. Dad joke incoming. What do you call the father of a student at the University of Indiana? Drumroll, please. Who's your daddy? One gentle correction. Indiana is one of two flagship universities in the United States of America where the word university follows the state instead of university of. So it's Indiana University. It's not the University of Indiana. The other being, does anyone know? West Virginia University. There's no University of West Virginia. There's no University of India. That's the only thing I would add to that. It's a great joke, otherwise. Thank you. I don't think there's a third. No, it's been talked about before, but do you have any inside info about why CK sold his mansion a year after buying it? I do. Seems like E wouldn't be in favor of that. Always been curious about this. Thanks. E was very much in favor of that. I would say E was the driving force. The driving force behind that decision. And I've had that confirmed multiple places. Multiple places from people very close to them. I was watching you while trying to pass a kidney stone that is currently in my bladder. The bad part's coming up. Please send prayers. I want this thing out by tonight. I'm on day six. I'll say prayers, but I don't know how big it is and how weirdly shaped it is. But I feel bad for you. Kidney stones are terrible. What a just tragic force of nature they are. I'll pray for you. What's your name? Stephanie. Felt pulled back to Catholicism last summer. Found your podcast in October. Started the Bible in December. Finished last week. Just started the catechism. Thank you for modeling the faith. Thank you for the kind words. I don't know if you're familiar with Father Mike Schmidt, but he has a Catechism in a Year podcast. And Mrs. Coleman listened to that and she loved it. She absolutely loved it. Did you see the video of the person walking down the stairs, possibly at Fulton Library around 1250, worth probing or already explained? I addressed that at the last, we had a commenter in the last show that asked that same question. I don't know anything more about it than there was like a flash of a person go by. I've not heard any context about it. I don't know why that started making the rounds. It didn't seem to catch much traction. But I don't know anything other than that, that it appears to be taken from an elevated position, sort of looking down. I don't know what made the person think that it was suspicious. And I just saw a little flash of a person. So I don't know what that means. I don't know what it means. But yeah, I'm familiar. Barron, third option regarding New York Times. E.K. is and always will be a narcissist and a fame seeker. No press is bad press and nothing is sacred to her kind of person. I just feel like if Mrs. Coleman hated like Time Magazine, if she was well known to just despise Time Magazine and something happened to her, and I had to give my very first interview about what happened, I wouldn't like go to Time Magazine. Be like, no, out of respect to her, I'm not going to do this. She was like on the record hating Time Magazine. To be fair, we don't hate Time Magazine. I don't know much about Time Magazine. Charlie was executed. I thought I had a Time Magazine on the wall. I do not. Charlie was executed the same way because the way he was because the message from those who wanted him gone was you are not safe no matter who you are or where you are. I agree with that. And I think to some extent it had a very profound effect very early on. I talked to several people in the immediate days, like the day of and the first couple of days afterwards that were scared to go out in public, really. These were conservative type of people that were well known. And they all kind of said, I'm not going anywhere until we figure this thing out. So it had that effect. The soles of all the shoes in the group picture look like the soles used by workers of electricity. The soles I'm thinking about do not allow the conduction of electricity. Very interesting. That is interesting. If that's true, that's interesting. I don't understand the white sole dress shoe look. I've never had a pair. I see it all the time. I don't mind it necessarily, but I see people wearing it in the Oval Office. I'm like, put on some straight tips or at least wing tips or something for the Oval Office. Come on, guys. The Oval Office. They're wearing those sneaks in there. One year anniversary and this community won't stop. Don't stop. We refuse to be JFK'd. Period. Paragraph. Amen. I think it's a good way to put it. It's a great way to put it. You know, we still don't know what happened to JFK. So we continue looking. Mr. Com dropped not one but two Mimbos. Out of the heavens. Thank you, Mr. Com. Today's my birthday. Yes, every seven years my birthday falls on Labor Day. My wish is to finally know about the picture you hinted of. Eric at Fort Huachuca. Fort Huachuca. Well, happy birthday to you, classy llama. I've never met an unclassy llama, if that makes sense. Weird or is it me? Same exact Clancy case in Ireland. Also a nurse. Same alleged mental issues. Also three kids with same initials on the exact same day. Just three years before. Deirdre Morley, her name. Yeah, I saw Owen Benjamin. I think was the first one that I saw that identified that. And at first I thought he's just making up. You know, he's a professional comedian. I thought he's just being funny. I don't think he was. I think that's the thing. Best I could tell that was real and I don't know what to make of it. It's too much. I believe in synchronicity, but that's like another level. Cowboy Steakhouse receipt is real. I can assure you. I believe it is. I don't know. Let me say this. The receipt is real. I don't know whether that means that Tyler Robinson was there. I think it's I think the preponderance of the evidence sort of points that direction. But the receipt itself is a real receipt for a real customer on that very real day eating that very real meal. Candid events presented in court when it begins as an alibi to prove he couldn't have committed the crime. Well, it wasn't at the time the crime was committed. It was hours later. It would go towards he he couldn't have written those. Text messages, but you can't just bring the receipt in. That would be hearsay. You would have to bring in somebody who's a records custodian of the receipt. And then you would have to bring in the person who can identify him like there would be steps to this. You wouldn't just like throw the receipt in front of the jury. It wouldn't quite be that easy. But could you bring? I think so. I think so. What can we expect for the next three months regarding lawyering and hearings? Etc. Anything you're interested in specifically during this phase? Yeah, discovery disputes. Very interested in the discovery disputes. That's probably the only thing in the next three months that will interest me. Down the road, we'll get to the 702 hearings, which will interest me a lot. Those are the expert witness hearings. I will be very interested in those. We could get to some evidentiary hearings that would be interesting to follow. I don't know about how public those will be. Because if the judge rules, the evidence is not admissible. How much of a record do you want out there about the evidence? So that might be more closed. I don't know. But the 702 hearings, I think, should be pretty open. And those will be very interesting to me. We'll learn a lot about the defense theory and the prosecution theory of the case. So those will be interesting to follow. The discovery disputes will be interesting to follow. Why are they not turning over discovery? What discovery is not being turned over? What is the defense asking for that the prosecution is refusing to provide? What excuses is the prosecution offering for not giving everything the defense is asking for? Those will be very interesting. The motions in limine could provide a little interest, but that'll be very close to trial. That'll be a long ways down the road. I was running errands, came home, and spouse told me about Charlie. I immediately sat on arm of recliner and cried. I can't forget the great racist Snake Bleff remembers what he did, probably with clarity. I tend to agree, but Blake says otherwise. Perhaps Blake went to pick up a rental car. Gray Dodge Challenger that was observed being driven by a bald man with three passengers. I doubt it, but I don't know. If that's true, I think it would already have been an Orem. Gifted one memo. Another one. That's a third one, Mr. Com. Pray for the guy videotaping Charlie in Salt Lake City. Wonder if Charlie questioned why so many extra peeps flew with him that day. I don't know how many people normally flew with him. So I don't know if he would have questioned or not. Yo B, there's no saving TPSA at this point. Corrupt and badass. Actors have their tentacles entwined. I like the way you said that, tentacles entwined. That's very visual language. I like to consider myself a decent writer. I like to add a little visual imagery and some nice turns of phrase in my opening statements, for example. I like that a lot, tentacles intertwined. Tentacles entwined through the whole org, as I think Charlie was learning about before his death. I feel so sorry for Charlie's kids. I do too. No matter what happened, I feel sorry for Charlie's kids. I'm thinking the left was code for, I don't know, maybe for another four-letter word, the Jaws. If he sent that text while being berated on Zoom, maybe he knew he had to use code because he knew they were spying on him. That's my suspicion. If the text is real, he was using code. That's my suspicion. Oh. I forgot about this. I just got a notice via Twitter. I will be on James Lee, 5149 tomorrow at 10 a.m. Pacific, noon, God's time, 1 p.m. on the East Coast. Very much looking forward to this. I lost it. I hit the wrong button and it went away. I was going to retweet it. Not very much. I like James Lee. I'm a big fan. Big fan. Burgers for dinner. It was great. That is all. Thank you, Mr. Com. Thank you. Never mind the direction. The direction of TPSA 2.0 and the betrayal of CK's ethos. EK is not talented, skilled, or eloquent enough to be in this position. Dare I say, she wouldn't be for any organization. IMO. I agree. And that's not knocking her, by the way. Not everybody should be the CEO. Compare it to sports. Not every position coach should be a head coach. Too many of them try. You're a good offensive coordinator. You've been a superlative offensive coordinator. One of the best in the country for years. And someone offers you a lot of money to be the head coach. And then they fail. They can't keep the organization together. And I think that's Erica. She's just weird. Maybe she'd be a good middle manager or talent. I don't know. I'm in Austin. Tried to register for the faith event. And the website is down. Uh-oh. Funny that. Maybe they're getting overloaded with people wanting to show up. Marking time is what we used to do in marching band. Mark time. Mark. Love the show and everything you and so many others are doing to bring justice to Charlie. Keep going, Max. Christ is king. Did you see the coach of, I can't remember what school, Southern Miss? He walked in with a Christ is king shirt and the media gave him hell. Like literally. I can't think of a better word to explain. Express what they did. They gave him a hard time about it. And I loved him. He was like, buzz off. I'm going to do it anyway. Gifted one memo. Got another memo gift falling out. My B joined the membership being on loving on the side of truth with you. Candice and other truth seekers for Charlie. Will you be doing anything special for CK on nine 10? Your number one fan from Gilbert, Arizona, Brittany. Uh, just call me Brit. Stay tuned. Stay tuned. That'll be Thursday. So I believe, yeah, stay tuned. Brittany state to a brilliant episode and thank you for joining the membership. I really appreciate that brilliant episode, Baron. Thank you for being you. Uh, do you think there's any chance that there are any background investigations being done by the Joe Kent's of the world? I pray that someone good is looking into everything coming out. I don't know what Joe Kent can do now that he's out of government, that he couldn't, that anyone else can't do so maybe as better. Connections. I don't know. Thank you for yet another thought provoking and insightful episode prayers for you and your family. St. Michael pray for us. Christ is King. Indeed, uh, tax you over the target. Truth equals enemy to liars. That's correct. That's correct, man. When you pick a team, they, they bring the thunder. They do not like this program because they do not like the success that, uh, our community is having, making their lives better one day at a time. Better every day. Marking time is a military maneuver and drill where the group marches in place. Well, snap was never in the military. No, I guess he sort of was tangentially close to the military. Baron Blake had to be in the back car seats. Aren't allowed in the front. Happy birthday to Mrs. Coleman. Great show today. Christ is King. Indeed. Maybe he wears a booster. It might be. There's so much sissy drama amongst the male investigators recently. I know you don't play into that, but what are your thoughts on it? I feel like there's been a clear schism after the AWCO debate embarrassing and gay. Um, my, my advice is that people don't shouldn't go down that road. I'm staying out of it. Uh, that's why they have all these betting sites. Now I bet most or all our greatest allies underneath they're sending texts. I got one asking my opinion on it. Oh, I get those all the time. We love you. B can't wait for those zip up hoodies. Thank you. Appreciate that. Got that on the list of things to consider. I love how you teach lessons with a fatherly method. Best storyteller ever. I'll thank you. That, that makes me feel great. I appreciate that. Uh, Baron, I've been freeloading for six months, but I've decided to become a member. Hope Graham Allen was listening to your closing. Uh, God bless you and Christian King. Indeed. Much love to you and the great Daisy. Thank you. I appreciate that. Welcome to the membership. Uh, my B was watching a show recently where you touched on miscarriage. We had one recently and I'm so scared to try again. Any advice? Love you. Um, I don't think she would care if I told this, uh, Mrs. Coleman had two before we had our first child. Um, and they, they are, they are painful cause you get so excited about expecting. And then, and then after that, you're nervous, right? Um, no, I'm not going to give any medical advice, but, uh, my advice is try, try again, you know, be fruitful and multiply. Uh, and I wish you the best, best advice. I can give you, I think everything happened as it was meant to, so that we could all wake up and see what was happening. It was a turning point, so to speak, just not the one they were hoping for. I'm grateful for the awakening. I do think it was a turning point. I think people have turned on that nonsense. I think if you went back and polled American sentiment on our greatest allies, September 9th, 2025. And today. It has drastically turned against our greatest ally. And I think Charlie's death is a good part of that because it was handled so weirdly. You think TPSA watches all this and changes plans based on what is reported. Now they will keep EK just to say, just so they can say, see, they got it wrong. Um, I mean, they can, but that's just going to mean they continue circling the drain. I mean, if they've acknowledged the problem and want to keep the, keep the problem going, I mean, they can, but that's just gonna mean they continue circling the drain. I mean, they can, but that's just gonna mean they continue circling the drain. I mean, they continue circling the drain. I've been through that many times with people. I think CK and his employees aren't the most moral peeps. I would agree with you on the employees. I don't know what Charlie knew or didn't know. Thanks, Baron Daisy, and all who helped put these shows together. Asking for prayers. Had knee replacement August 11. Been fighting pneumonia for past two weeks. Makes rehab hard. I'll pray for you, Tim. He talks about 1431. I'm sorry to hear that. I know when you get immobile, sometimes you get pneumonia. Do you have one of those things you breathe in on? It's got a little valve that goes up the more you breathe in. I used to use those. I used that a lot when I had my ankle surgery, and I couldn't go anywhere for a while. And it helps keep your lungs open, all that. You can buy them on Amazon. For the SLC short vid, did you see CK rub under his arm side? His shirt also pulls. Hmm, pre-existing injury. SLC short vid. Oh, let me look. I didn't see that. We'll watch it together. How about that? I don't recall seeing him pull on his side. What did you say? Let's watch together, shall we? All right. Creepy guy zooming in. No offense, creepy guy. Oh, he did pull on his side. He did pull on his side. Got guys hugging, lots of pictures. Is there another shirt puller, or is it just that one? Hands behind the back, like he's getting arrested. Just kidding. I didn't see another shirt pull, just that first one. I didn't notice much there, but I don't blame you for looking closely. I also followed Micah Miller investigation. That man was covered up for years by the FBI. His father's an Einstein. No neighbors. Neighbors reported young girl. Whoa. I need to look closer into this. Just got my Haikyuu outfit, shirt, and love it. Thank you for being you, and happy to be part of this community. Celebrating six months in remission from NH lymphoma. Number two, Middle Tennessee fan. Mrs. C is number one. You got to get behind all my kids, too, and my mom. She lives here as well. It's birthday palooza month in here, I guess. Mine was on the second, but it has been a bit since a birthday mattered. Now every birthday matters. Congratulations. Conquering death. One year at a time. My Brian, Mr. Brian, please watch a quick video. When you see it, you're going to say, OMG, how can I send it to you? Who's Mr. Brian? I don't know that guy. I'm sure he's great. Funny clips. Need to come back for sure. Baron, I had a case once. I'm not going to say where it was. It was in Ohio. Yeah, I did say that. Yeah, I did, didn't I? I forgot I said that. I shouldn't have said that. It was in Ohio, though. Just using my super chat to say that I think, still think about the fact that you said you have two backup mouses, but Officer Buggy Pants had one buddy cam on. Yeah, I do. I actually had to switch to one in the middle of a show the other day, and you guys didn't even notice. I always have two backup mouses. They have three different names. They have a backup keyboard, too. You never know when something's going to die, and you need it. Yeah, I switched over, and you guys didn't even see it happen. Baron, thanks for all you do. Thank you. Appreciate that. As a big fan, I think you actually missed the difference between conservative and Republican in your thinking, especially with the new Republicans. I would agree the new Republicans don't seem very conservative. Do you think Erica would be stepping back to focus on her vice presidential? Aspirations? Oh. I hope not. If they have any chance of earning my vote for a presidential ticket, she better not be anywhere near it. Anywhere near it. Day 28 check-in getting easier every day. Carol Baskin's husband was found alive in Costa Rica. Oh, he ran away from her, huh? I did not know that she was found away. Congratulations on day 28. Yes, it gets easier every day. Just mental at this point. A.B. to Judge Graff. Get Google search. From our greatest ally, Christ is king, indeed. I'd have to go back and watch the specific jurisdiction. I know he showed up in the Google Trends searches. I think it was over there, but it might have been just the District of Columbia, and I'm not sure which. I watched D-O-A-P-W last night to prepare. Oh, oh, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Even if he's not guilty of murder, what do you think about culpability in a wrongful death suit? Is it too late to do that? I don't know what the statute of limitations is there. It's been more than a couple of years, hasn't it? I don't know. I don't know. Maybe. That's not a bad theory. Daisy, go ahead and change your profile picture. Is she contemplating a change? I think a lot of Christian women stay in abusive marriages, believing it is Christlike choice. What would you say to them? I'm not going to weigh in on that, because I don't know. I think there's so many varying levels of abuse. I don't know what's safe and not safe. I don't want to give blanket advice on that. I think it's individualized, and they need to talk that out with their priest or pastor or religious authority and come to an individualized determination. I don't think you should take advice from somebody who knows nothing about your scenario. I'm late, but AK definitely listened to too much Shaggy growing up. He straight up wasn't me-ing the flags. It wasn't me. It wasn't me. It wasn't me. It wasn't me. I'm familiar. Number one fan from Denver. May God bless and watch over you be Christ is King indeed. Thank you for tuning in from Denver. Thoughts on the Italian GP. That was an amazing race. Hope you got a chance to watch. I watched a lot of it. I didn't watch the whole thing. I would have liked to have seen what could have happened with Lewis if he didn't spin in the first lap or two. That would have been interesting. I would have liked to have seen what Leclerc could have done if he wouldn't have snapped and ended his race. I think the Ferraris were fast, and it's always fun to see a Ferrari win the Italian. Gasly has won that. No, he didn't win that one. He won Imola. Or did he win that one? I think he won that one a few years back, six or eight, ten years back. Man, I'm getting old. I'm a fan of Max. I'm glad he had a good drive. Kimmy's drive was amazing. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't like the McLaren. I like McLaren as a team historically, but I don't like him this year. I'm not wild about him. Are you related to any Fullers in Cadiz, Kentucky? You look so much like my uncle. Thank you for your wisdom and awesome personality. Well, funny you should say that. Where is Cadiz, Kentucky? Let me look it up. Probably not. Now, there's a little town in Kentucky. There's a little town up by Louisville named Shively, and I know that I'm related to people in that town or the people who founded that town because that's a made-up last name, and it shows up in my lineage. So, it's possible, and that's a very strong gene pool because I look a lot like my uncles who share that name, and they have very strong genes. But I. I don't know. I mean, it's possible one of them branched off and married someone in Cadiz or moved to Cadiz. I don't know. Look, Cadiz is sort of in the southwest part of the state. I don't think I have anybody over there. But, yeah. Interesting. Crisis King, indeed. How can they remove EK if Charlie appointed her? Genius thought, admonition baron, priceless. Yeah, it's a good question. If he was so adamant, how on earth could you remove her? Credo Catholic, who lost faith as a kid because Christians were so fake. Thank you for calling out the imposters, going back to church six months. Oh, Lady Liz, congratulations. Yeah, the church is made up of flawed people. Don't blame God for flawed people. Find a home where people are mostly trying to do the right thing. They'll make mistakes, but mostly. An exception, Sir B. Bernie Tieda, Carthage, Texas. Had to change trial location twice because people love him. The Bernie movie is great. Now go eat your spicy Tom Yum soup, but not in your PJs, then go to bed. Okay. I'll check into that case. I've never heard of that before. But that's wild if it's true. It'd be the first one I'd ever heard of. I do like Tom Yum soup. How did you know that? I was fortunate. I don't know where PJs. I can't eat anything in my PJs. My PJs would scandalize people. And I don't eat in my PJs. I was fortunate enough to tour the Painted Churches in Shulenburg, Texas this past week. Those are truly beautiful churches. Everywhere and everywhere you go. Good advice. B, Tennessee first family here. Why is road mic not in evidence? What can be done? Well, we don't know that it's not. That's the key. It might be. And that would be an answer. That'd be a great answer. We can't give you the mic because they have it in evidence. I'll accept that answer. I would love that answer. Maybe preface. painted black church, I don't know what that means. but granted uh never mind apparently oh i see what you're saying maybe yeah so all black churches i'm not talking about the race of people i'm talking about the walls and all that i think that's pretty clear um nobody can watch this show and think i'm complaining about black churches uh never mind apparently it was only carol's own claim so probably a scooby snack for tigers god bless you from minnesota oh you're saying he was not found alive in costa rica duly noted uh love nurse casey she helped me correct an oopsie i made on my merch order last night love you b crisis king indeed nurse casey's the goat she's the goat of merch just want to say thank you with my membership milestone chat also wanted to be shawnee when i grow up uh shawnee's great shawnee's great so supportive bros stay focused on graph seems he might not be allowed to preside district issue his creepy csa stuff kind of puts him in conflict twigs is csa well we don't know that that that's twigs is tie and the jurisdictional stuff as long as he moved to utah county that would resolve that my question is why are you going to another county to find a judge for this county that's my question history teacher my own online business teaching mostly homeschoolers and charter school kids got a survey on online hybrid teaching from none other than uvu we'll report back later crisis king indeed let me know how that turns out i'm curious very curious el colombo we believe your was actually comes from learning at the knee of the incomparable el rushbo if i'm not mistaken he was also on rare occasions our humble host you have his cadence uh he's the humblest of hosts the very humblest of hosts uh the cradle the catholic church i attend has added four new service times just since i started going at the end of april oci class has over 50 people crisis king and jesus loves you sounds like a church on fire that's a good church imagine tpsa takes a ceo break and then boom january 6 thomas massey coup saves ck's tpsa version 1 until he runs for office again in 28 i doubt they're gonna host uh to ask thomas massey i just doubt it hello my b and daisy you mentioned new mexico do you know about loretto chapel staircase i do not i do not i would love to know more about it you know what i need to do is a compilation of everyone who's mentioned that in the comments it'd be like hours long saw can is welcomed like a celeb so proud her four huge guards made me wonder how you coach stay safe he just announced he's in vatican city with his mic off yeah i saw his um his live this morning and i i saw he was using his mic or his mic was present but it was not on he was talking sounded like from the other room he just made me check because i always check to make sure the right mic is on when i start and i did not today but it is but it is um yeah i saw that using my super chat say i still think about the fact you said you have two mouses for backup for your podcast and officer baggy pants had one body cam on five percent during the crime of the century yeah i think you used your super chat twice to say that we stayed at studio six in california over the weekend there was a christian church service at the hotel tpsa much put phones on airplane mode immediately um it was that one of the places that they're geofencing there's a whole list maybe they've added to it i don't know have you looked into chemase i have not prosecutor and az that filed against ck and why he felt he was going to jail if trump didn't win israel connect recently did he file something against charlie kirk uh i don't see anything or she i don't see anything about that oh there it is hold on i do see something chris mays attorney general chris mays would have to convene a grand jury and share the text of the act and it's entirely if she wanted a grand jury and share the text of the act and it's entirely if she wanted ruling was appealed in ruling was appealed in ruling was appealed in september 25 and that was denied oh september 25 and that was denied oh september 25 and that was denied oh interesting timing arizona republican interesting timing arizona republican interesting timing arizona republican party issued response to the denied party issued response to the denied party issued response to the denied appeal reiterating the indictment was appeal reiterating the indictment was appeal reiterating the indictment was politically motivated politically motivated politically motivated okay okay okay that was about tyler boyer though i have to check in i don't think that i i have to check in i don't think that i i have to check in i don't think that i i don't know that that's connected based i don't know that that's connected based i don't know that that's connected based on the limited reading i just did our on the limited reading i just did our on the limited reading i just did our boy ryan heflin whatever speaking at tpsa boy ryan heflin whatever speaking at tpsa boy ryan heflin whatever speaking at tpsa faith event hope he knows faith event hope he knows faith event hope he knows christ is king love you b house full of christ is king love you b house full of christ is king love you b house full of teens listening here in virginia teens listening here in virginia teens listening here in virginia oh we do great with the teens we're oh we do great with the teens we're oh we do great with the teens we're great with the teens the teens love the great with the teens the teens love the great with the teens the teens love the program program program i don't know if that's true but in your i don't know if that's true but in your i don't know if that's true but in your house it is in your house it is house it is in your house it is in your house it is in your house it is uh yeah i hope he knows uh yo b what do uh yeah i hope he knows uh yo b what do uh yeah i hope he knows uh yo b what do you think really happened to ck did he you think really happened to ck did he you think really happened to ck did he get shot or another cause of death get shot or another cause of death get shot or another cause of death um if i had to put my cards on the table i would say it's another cause of death i don't know what that is but he did did not appear to be shot to me not in the pictures i saw i don't care what they found in his neck it does not look like a gunshot to me but i've not seen the autopsy report i've not seen any pictures i you know limited information we have i'm going by the imagery does not look like a gunshot wound uh how did you and daisy meet uh mentioned this many times uh she was an email tipper tipster and kept proving that she was fantastic uh over and over and so i asked her to come work with me gbc andrew's knowledge of the event would or could be a dead man switch from being removed from tpsa thoughts yes i have thoughts um that would be a tough position if that's true tough position they find themselves in vintage church in austin started by pastor stephen martin didn't look hard enough in the reviews oh my bad i mean i'm not going to read every review while i'm on here hard to say but michael knowles would probably be a good ceo pick i hate that i didn't don't hate him go max my b uh wouldn't be a terrible pick i feel like they could do better i don't know what he knows about administering large organizations i mean that's that's that's really what he needs and this is something i think charlie ran into is you know a lot of a lot of people who found a business aren't good at running running it when it's large and successful that happens a lot there's some people who can bridge the gap but but most people who start a business have a good idea they can get it off the ground and get it going but someone else needs to come in and sort of take it to the next level they they sort of think like an entrepreneur um or they think like an inventor or they think like someone who's solving a problem rather than somebody running a large complex organization and that's that's where i think charlie sort of broke down um he had the campus vibe he was very good in speeches very good in q and a's but i'm i'm not sure he was great at running a large organization and i feel like it got away from him and i don't know where michael um knowles has has any experience in doing that either watching the pastor's wife i can't help but be saddened that the pastor's father was a pastor and he allegedly had multiple affairs with men and women he also made his abuses oh gosh i hope not uh thank you thank you very much uh love you be going to read john in your honor i was trying to figure out where in the gospels i wanted to dive back in always praying for you your loved ones and daisy pay particular attention to john chapter six would you pay particular attention to john chapter six uh he would chuck what he would chuck how he would chuck what would a wood chuck chuck if it would chuck a joke would uh okay the denali was purchased february 2025 um maybe theory ek offered choice to aid greatest ally plot pre-910 okay following help as directed and keep ck's wealth and legacy following uh b blackmail via einstein ties scapegoat bankruptcy impossible prison couldn't save ck's life only her own that's a wild theory but i mean you've thought through it i don't know if there's any evidence to support it but you know we're speculating in the absence of evidence we speculate did anyone else notice the pic of a guy looking like he's in an ice bath on the victor mark site 5607 mark how is that helping kids i did not notice that uh you're mentioned in the hindustan times article which was posted only 20 minutes ago wow i'll check it out last night's show guy and i bet i believe you i believe you i'm just not pulling up last night's show speaking of cringe have you seen the trailer that dropped today for the upcoming documentary about elizabeth holmes yikes love your show now i'm a bit of elizabeth holmes stan i will say that so um careful i did an opening on elizabeth holmes where i suggested she's a patsy and did not know it and i still kind of feel that way uh i don't know that she should be in prison necessarily i understand the the limitations on the test with the one drop but it's a complex case i hate that i hate that it worked out the way it did i don't know if i'll watch it if it's going to make her look bad don't know that i'm going to watch it baron tell me what to do i might let's see what happened uh who should we vote for in the midterms illinois i've tried to do some research but it seems like all of them have ties to our greatest allies pack love your shows thank you crisis king indeed i will not tell you who to vote for but i'll tell you what i would do i'm not voting for anybody with ties i'm done so i would just skip that race that's me though you do you i'm not telling you how to vote there's a video from 9 10 showing charlie talking to df with df presumably saying we have to leave and then ck saying i'll do one more posted by honest ash i can't remember if you've covered this no i've never seen that why would why would dan be telling him we have to leave one questioner in i think i know the exchange you're talking about but i've never heard that interpretation of it great magnificent baron oh you finally figured it out did you grandma char ut gram char now 11 not 10 you got a tip to daisy regarding judge graff and the person who signed his appointment certificate who's from hebrew utah like mr butch hibbs an odd issue he got himself in from bench regarding praising the grape for being so great i will let her know i'll let her know i don't know what you're talking about but thank you uh hello baron huge fan as the far as the nyc article option three she doesn't care and it's unfortunate do you think ek's recent visit to tucker was to try to convince him to speak at america fest this year no i don't i think he was trying to keep him on the sidelines in this conversation my wife watches every day michaela michaela's great she's a great commenter always happy to have her thank you msu and you have m michigan here i believe you i believe you not the weasels the wolverines uh oh i do genealogy and on charlie kirk's records one of them there are a few it was searched and modified by someone in our greatest ally the day of 9 10 25 also they have listed as cremated family search my heritage ancestry i don't know how accurate all that is i don't know where that where they pull from is it just people online doing that or is it like pulling from official government records i don't know for voice research what singers do yeah my voice is not doing great this week uh mrs coleman's coming down with a bug i'm hoping i'm not coming down with it i designed an edge of the seat chair for you on ai tagged you on x uh email it i don't see x tags so if you want me to see something email it and nurse casey will we'll see those but thank you prayer and fasting on 9 10 for truth charlie christ is king um thank you queenie queenie bobini i like that could the text aw red been sent by ek she could have had ck's phone at the time and been really worried about him and scared of leftists it reads more like a worried spouse than ck himself maybe i don't know i don't know if they i don't know if they operated that way i don't know do you think that the flooding of meat into the u.s is the place uh is to place the cattle king grand grand grandson on notice i have no idea what you're talking about on his obituaries 1916 was considered the largest landowner tucker carlson uh i am not following that at all the grand grandson of the cattle king is ducker carlson is that what you're saying i don't know are you still on cows i don't know uh gbc kirk franklin is a baptist i said protestant is that protestant that covers a lot of them i was too vague specifically do you think anyone in the cia fbi etc could be quietly investigating tpsa in the background joe kent's of the world equal good honest people in position to follow up um maybe maybe maybe i hope so i hope so i hope the investigation is not dead might be if you actually love writing please listen to ren i think he is a complete artist lyrical acting make music making thing okay thank you uh not focused on vp yet anyone else have a guess on who's about to lose their job i'm gonna have to go with cash they think they're always a step ahead of us shaking my head uh i don't know that cash is about to lose his job i think blake's went to the mobile station vehicle when when because he was at the hospital at 115-ish 105-ish 115 happy b mrs c happy birthday mrs c happy birthday still getting happy birthday wishes but baron i have family from baron kentucky yeah but we don't like to use the word baron spelled that way because it means dry arid and in fertile your humble host is none of the above none of the above quite virile no i'm just kidding i think blake was at the mobile command vehicle i mean you said that but i don't i don't know when you got to give me a time when would he have been there ck was posted posing with his cousin's husband brian simowitz on the street in the video you showed house and had it articles said three people with ck at the event yeah we've covered that article none of them were um were his typical security detail just that just an unnamed security guy i'm assuming that's the chris or christopher if that is his real name which i'm starting to doubt why do you think he pushed to move from mansion um i'm not going to comment on that i'm not going to comment on that but i'm confident she's the one that pushed to move away to verge in illinois skip it we have no options ick oh it must be to someone else gbc from a cyber pro stop using wireless keyboard why you got to give me more ivan why i need to know why i like my wireless keyboard plural uh judy thank you judy thank you um guys that was a good show if i do say so myself a good holiday crowd um i will be back tomorrow probably for a member show if i had to guess um if i don't do a member show tomorrow it will be friday probably for a member show uh don't forget noon god's time one o'clock on the east coast ten o'clock on the left coast and i have no idea what time on the other side of the world because i can't do all that math and add 12 here and six there and 18 there figure it out yourselves i'll be on with james lee on his channel james lee 51 49 i have no he did not tell me how long so i don't know if it's 30 minutes or an hour or 10 minutes or one minute but uh that's set up for for noon god's time tomorrow so uh show james lee some love for inviting your humble host on his program one more and then we'll get out of here man the only one on 9 10 25 press conference that looked like he saw a ghost was governor thought cox any thoughts on this um i think no i disagree i think the sheriff down in washington county also looked like he saw a ghost he looked terrible but that his was the next day so maybe at that one yeah okay i'll give you that i don't have any thoughts i don't have any thoughts on that um but i do have thoughts on this jesus loves you it's a fact jack it's a fact there's nothing you can do to stop it um you know we mentioned all the great successes people going back to church people finding a new home and getting baptized and all these wonderful success stories i remind you that's why they don't like us succeed seating because they don't like the success of people getting better every single day so just keep getting better that's the everybody says how on earth do i fight back against this behemoth you improve your life you get healthier you get you know find your place with god you get dug into that you put down the drugs or the alcohol or whatever's bothering you and holding you back and you you press ahead press ahead you reduce your debt burden you get just get better every day every day get better every day get better um but in the meantime i will either be back for a member show tomorrow or i'll be back for a live show on wednesday if i do not do a member show tomorrow the member show will be on friday uh but but i hope everybody has a wonderful night and um i'll check you out if you if you want to watch james lee tomorrow noon um i look forward to seeing everybody then bye guys you

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. A trusted source suggests Erica Kirk may step down as CEO of TPSA but will remain chair, citing internal recognition of a failed leadership experiment and a need for her to step back to focus on family.
  2. The discussion draws parallels between the true crime podcast *Death of a Pastor’s Wife* and the Charlie Kirk case, highlighting how both involve unresolved narratives, public skepticism of official conclusions, and the cultural pressure to question institutional closure.
  3. Critics argue that Erica Kirk’s recent actions—such as promoting a New York Times opinion piece and wearing a $4,000 cape at a book summit—contradict Charlie Kirk’s known opposition to the outlet and undermine his legacy, raising concerns about poor PR, dishonesty, and an attempt to manipulate public perception.

Summary:

The transcript explores the potential end of Erica Kirk’s role as CEO of Turning Point USA (TPSA), with a trusted source indicating she may step down but remain chair, citing internal acknowledgment of leadership failures and a need for her to step back from constant public engagement. This shift comes amid growing public scrutiny over TPSA’s direction, particularly regarding foreign policy and political messaging. The discussion draws a direct parallel between the true crime podcast *Death of a Pastor’s Wife* and the case of Charlie Kirk, both of which feature unresolved narratives, public skepticism of official conclusions, and the cultural tendency to question institutional closure.

Critics argue that Erica Kirk’s actions—such as publishing intimate personal reflections in the New York Times and attending a high-profile event in a $4,000 cape—directly contradict Charlie Kirk’s well-documented criticism of the outlet and his preference for conservative media. This is seen as a profound dissonance, suggesting a deliberate misrepresentation of his legacy. The analysis also highlights a security lapse during Charlie Kirk’s final days, including his exposure on a public street with minimal security, and questions about Blake Neff’s whereabouts, suggesting potential dishonesty.

These elements collectively point to a broader crisis of transparency and credibility in TPSA’s leadership, with the author urging a return to authenticity, transparency, and alignment with Charlie Kirk’s actual values—especially as the one-year anniversary of his death approaches.

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A trusted source suggests Erica Kirk may step down as CEO but will remain as chair, indicating a shift in her role due to perceived failures and public concerns.

The speculation stems from internal recognition of leadership issues, public backlash over foreign policy messaging, and concerns about the organization's direction and transparency.

Both cases feature unresolved questions about official conclusions, family skepticism, and a gap between the official narrative and those closest to the victim, fueling public debate.

It coincides with the one-year anniversary of Charlie Kirk's death and mirrors the cultural trend of true crime content that questions official narratives, raising similar concerns about transparency and justice.

No, Andrew Colvette claimed the church independently placed the foreign flag, but a source at the event reported that TPUSA-promoted flags and lapel pins were present, contradicting that statement.

The speaker criticizes the timing and content of the interview, arguing it is inconsistent with Charlie Kirk’s known opposition to the New York Times and appears to be a strategic move to gain media attention.

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