Something’s Burning: Nick Simmons + Evan Stanley Talk Nepo Babies and Reality TV | S7 E14

One comment literally said, "This is verbatim because I've screen shot it and saved it." "This is gay. Your dad's never dressed gay." "Excuse me?" "Arguably, the gayest." "Arguably, the gayest." "Arguably, that's gayer than David Bowie and Freddie Mercury and a hot tub together." Get the fuck out of here. What we're about to do is something's burning. I love you. I'll talk to you later. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I'll send you a picture of me working out today and you're going to end just for a while. I look fucking great. Jesus Christ. I take more nudes just to send to him. I only send my nudes to two people, him and my wife. But look how fucking great I look in this. What do you send him to? Kristina, I'm sure she'd enjoy that. This is the one I'm sending. You've seen her take talks. This is what I just sent to him. Pretty great, huh? I look fucking incredible. He's thin. He hasn't gotten big yet. You know what I mean? When he fucking gains it all back. So you never do you think it's over? Did you ever meet Fatton? No, I only met him when he was vaguely getting into this sort of like modern. It's so crazy. It's like knowing Jesus only as a carpenter. Yeah. And then and like and everyone's like, wait, so what was he like when he's a carpenter? He's like he was great, man. He was like pranky. He was fun. He was fun. Not only known as like millionaire Tom. I never knew like he's struggling comic Tom billionaire Tom. I only knew Rich Tom who talks about like losers who don't have Rolexes. That's my. That's the top. That's the Tom I've met. I know Kristina better than Tom and I obviously friendly. But like Kristina and I text everyone knows Kristina better than you know Tom. Well, they'll find she talks. Yeah, they'll find the body's. He's still fun. You just got to get him in the right in the right place. No, I love I get his personality. I understand it. Well, it's personality wasn't always this. I think trauma happened. Listen, I'd be very candid. I know everyone loves to hear stories about Tom and Kristina right now. And this isn't. Hey, we don't have to after he got after he got in that accident. I think it scared the fuck out of him. Trauma. Look, I'm going to give him the accident. Give him the the basic. It's on film. Tom is Tom was born looking athletic but he's not athletic. So it's like it's like it's like you ever seen someone who dresses like a rock star but can't play an instrument. You're like, what do you do? It's me right there. He's like, I just think I'm a front man. And he went to go dunk a basketball because I'm way more athletic than him but I don't look at what I'm like. Like how everything is. No, they're in composition for two decades, yeah, constantly. And so like I played tennis with him. I destroyed him. I humiliated him in front of his shoulder. I did weightlifting. I bench I benched 225 10 times one time and he was like, for real? I I overheard his trainer, right? They were talking about my shoulders behind my back. And this trainer went up and felt my shoulder under my shirt. And I watched his trainer look at Tom and go, it's real. Like he, the great thing about Bird is that he never exaggerates. Never, never. Everything is balls accurate. Just balls accurate. So, which is a phrase that I've heard before. So, but when he got into, he went to go dunk a basketball because the first thing he was ever excelling at, the very first time you looked at a sparkle in his eye where he went, I'm going to beat Bird physically. This has never happened in his entire life. And things he go, I mean, even financially he had to move to Austin to make more money so he could take for taxes. He tells a very different story. I know, I know. So, he goes to, by the way, I am like joking kind of. So, so, he goes to dunk and his, his patella ruptures. So, as he goes, what was this? Yeah, this was the, at the peak of COVID, December 2020. Looked on contest. Of code. So, they got this in like 4K from like five different angles. Five or bangles, this is the most, for, for the record, just to put this, this is a man who has made a living humiliating people when they get injured. Correct. So, Tom goes to dunk. His patella ruptures, he goes to stop himself with his arm and his feme, his humerus, this bone breaks in half. He falls on his arm. And his spins and circles and then we covered it in 5K. Yeah. From five different angles. And then. Drew, watch it. It's, oh yeah. I mean, I haven't seen it. Let's watch it. Let's watch it. Oh, dude. By the way, I told you exactly what happened. And it's still, it's like two girls won't come. It's hard to watch. It's, you're not ready. When you see it, you're going to be like the sound of him hitting the basketball court floor of like, of like, you hear like a few different impacts. It's like, bone body. It's, it's bad. It's real bad. I think he scrubbed the internet of anyone's screen grabbing it so that he was the only one that, because he wanted to be in control of it. Yeah, that people made beams of him like break dancing when he's like on the ground injured. They made him like, oh, he's spinning around and people are going, oh. And then there's like one of him, I don't know. Someone turned him into a swastika. I think it makes him put his arm bent around. Yeah. And this is, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, lands on the arm. There's the arm. Oh, the arm is, oh, the arm is fucked. Oh, dude. By the way, look how fat he was. By the way, what great music choice. Can't clear that. Fucking. So yeah, so then that happened. And I, so like, I had a blood clot in my leg and it got my lungs. And then someone tells me the chance of survival for that is like 5%. And you're like, huh? You don't hear that until you're out of the, out of the woods. Yeah. And then that trauma shows up one day where you don't realize you're like, holy shit, like I could have died. And then you're like, and I, and, and then ultimately you deal with that like a month later. It kind of fucks you up. And, and within, within like a two week period, I get a blood clot. My bus burns down on my dog dies all within two weeks. And so I've, I fucking. Oh, the bus. I remember that. So like, I've been dealing with that right now. Like real heavily in like panic and therapy. And like trying to figure it out. Well, that happened to him. And I think he realized his mortality. And he was overweight and, and, and he got COVID. That's why he got off of it. And yeah, and I think I think it changed and his dad passed away. Yeah, no, no. All this shit happens. That was his best friend, too. It wasn't, it wasn't like, you know, there are different levels of dead dead club. And he was like, they were the bad, they were the buddy. Like they were friends as well as he was on the show a bunch of times. His dad was awesome. Yeah. His dad and his dad. No, stories. Even like in their family, like the, the girls would be on the side of the table and be top of his dad. Like they were boys and, and yeah, that, that, that was that bad one. So we were making, I'm making you guys rib eyes with a beat salad. It is a coffee and crusted rib eye with a red, red wine glaze. I will make them medium rare. I'm gonna season them right now and let them sit at room temperature. And then I'm going to make our glaze, whip our, uh, feta, and, well, put our beats. It's gonna be awesome. Did we pick the right podcast or what? Let's fucking go. So wait, I, I'm dying to know. Let's talk about you and, and not Tom Segura, although that's what's getting views these days. If I fucking could leverage my friendship with him. I want to talk about the moment you guys decided to work together. When did you guys first meet? Like childhood, right? Yeah, I don't remember. I just remember you being around. It was like, we're like cousins, so like, and our fathers are co-workers. So we, we were just at family events then. At what point do you realize what your dad does? We get this question a lot. It's like, it's a weird one because, you know, you only have your own experiences. You're from a reference. So as a kid, you're like, yeah, that's what dad does. But for me, it was weird. I moved to New York right when I turned 18. And I'm like, as far as I could get away from home in the US. And of course, that's when they did that for our Vados campaign. So I shit you not. I'm on 11th and 3rd. And on the South corner of that is a giant billboard with our dads looking into my window in Vavados. And I'm like, all right, I can go super far in there here. Like, I guess they're really, really big. Like, I knew they were big. But that was like, damn, they're really big. Me, it was like, we did MTV cribs when I was a kid. I don't know if you're aware. Yeah, yeah, yeah, how old? I saw that. I was like a teenager. I was a young teenager, maybe 14, 13. And that's what caused us to have then a reality show on Annie for a while. And family jewels. Yeah, family jewels. So it's great. It was a great reality show. I haven't watched it. But can I tell you, my first takeaway was, my first takeaway was, it's an attractive family. Like your sister's beautiful, you're a good-looking guy. I was. Your mom's absolutely undeniably one of the most beautiful women. That's very sweet. And the sweetest. Yeah, she's a sweetest. She's Asian like wine, I'm Asian like milk. When cameras show up, you kind of go, okay, I guess this is something. But I mean, whenever you grow up with someone, like our experience of these guys are not, it's first and foremost, we know them as sort of like, like your kids know you, like they do. We know them as the home life. My dad was getting up early before elementary school and making French toast. Yeah, the best guy we know. Getting on me about grades. He's like normal dad and then he puts on makeup and does the same thing. So the thing everybody else knows is this sort of secondary trivia about this guy that we know. So it's like it's weird interacting with the other guy in public with people because it's not, that's not the guy. - By we know intimately, there's this home guy that is different. - Do you guys want anything to drink? Do you want any cocktails? Any, I want-- - Did you just have surgery? - I did. That's why I'm so quiet. I feel like I'm crippled 'cause I'm not supposed to talk that much. - Seriously? - I like a little polyp removed. Thankfully, the doctor's like it's not from singing wrong. It's not really, it's an accident. I don't know what caused it. Guys can get him. But had to get it removed before a tour. So there was a week where I couldn't even go like, I used one of those like Robo talk apps and-- - That's weak in my life. (laughing) - You missed it. Lindsey was about ready to kill me, dude, 'cause I was trying to sign to her and she didn't get it. And then my buddy Max came over, he understood everything. - So we were, we were, we were polyp, right? - Oh yeah, yeah. Now it's not a big, it's just, it feels fine, but I couldn't talk for like a week. And now I'm supposed to talk like 15 minutes an hour. So I'm sitting here like, shit, I talked for like 30 seconds before I can't say something now. So I'm just like. - Wait, how was the day to put you under? - Yeah, but they didn't give me any fun drugs after. They're like, here's a prescription for extra strength Tylenol. I'm like, all right. - Did? - Yeah. Thankfully it didn't hurt, so it was fun. - Jesus shit. - I'm good. - Did it feel, what does it feel like now? Can you tell? - It just feels better, my voice feels, I was like really hoarse for like a month and I was trying to figure out what was up. - It was from talking like, it's not more than singing, right? It was like talking in loud environments. - No, that's the thing is, so that's what you can get nodes and stuff from that. - I got, I have to be covered in nodes. - You don't notice it much if you're speaking, but the doctor was like, no. He's like, I don't know what caused it. Some sort of one-time injuries. It's not from singing, it's not from talking. - Are you like Josh Potter, or are you like don't go to the doctor? - No. - You don't like the doctor? - I was at the doctor's yesterday. - Dude, I see a factor when I get a check. - I get every three months. - I get everything checked. - I'm neurotic. Not neurotic, I'm cautious. I have a longevity doctor, I have a doctor, and I go to the doctor every three months to get blood work, to get my heart checked. - So that's part of being financially sound. You get to do all this stuff in this country, yeah. - Yeah. - You get to actually do all the stuff. What was the guy like, you know, drinks his son's blood or whatever the fuck that guy is? - Oh, I met that dude. I was in the sauna with that guy, Brian Johnson. - Doesn't he have some like a issue now that he can't cure? He's like done all this stuff, and it turns out he like has something that's been eating him from the insides. - Oh, guys. My beautiful daughter, Georgia. - Can you blur her face out, please? - Actually, you never show, you don't. - No, I showed all the time, you kidding me? - Yeah, that's how we get to. - Do you want to come on the pot, like come on the pot? - George, you want to hang out? - No, no. - Come be NEPOs with us. - I'm always fascinated by the NEPO term, because there's people like Jack-- - I get it. - Jack, Susan's Rand and Son. - Jack's Rand and? - No, Jack Robbins, Jack Robbins. - Oh, go ahead. - 'Cause he's Tim Robbins son also. - Got it. - Jack Robbins does a bit about it, and it's fucking hysterical. But like, I've never understood that. Part of the fun of Kurt Russell was that he was, what's his name's son? Part of the fun-- - But he was also great. - And Michael Douglas. - That's kind of the important thing. - That says you. - They're all great at what they do, and they clearly put time into their craft. I think the reason, especially in the social media era, it's become kind of a derogatory thing, which both of us get. It's like so many people now are the kids of whoever, and they're like, "Oh, well, I'm the kid of whoever." So I'm great at this, and it's like, "No, no, you're not." - You're not great at this. - You didn't actually put any time into working at this skill, but they have a big platform, so they're able to grow a following with really nothing to back it. I think that's what people kind of-- - People don't like undeserving nepot Babies. I think when you look at Angelina Jolie, you don't think like, "Oh, it's only 'cause of John Boy." You go, "No, she's a great actor." - Oh, I forgot her dad is John Boy. - Exactly. - The goal, the goal is that, right? To be so fucked. - You guys are fucked. - Yeah, we're fucked. It's not harder to just get bigger than KISS. - We're not, no, it's not, not whatever. But the goal is to be like-- - Have you thought about the page, or if you thought about just doing a band reusing all their songs in French? - Dude, you have no idea the comments that we get. - Well, just why? - I already got the domain name for Smooch, DM me, and it's like-- - Someone said that. - Smooch. - They got it because they honestly thought we'd be interested in like, "Hey, you want to do a play on that word, right?" "No, I fucking don't." - It's the same energy as people come up to me, and I've actually had people, ran to people come up and say, "Hey, I want to tell you sort of that is kind of crazy about your dad or this back in the day." And I've heard some stuff that's really fun or really, you know, whatever, kooky, but there's one phrase when ever someone comes up and goes, "You're gonna get a kick out of this." I don't know why it's this way, but every time someone uses that, I've never gotten a kick out of it. It's the worst. And it's like, we get that kind of energy from a million comments. - We don't hear the one I get. - Why I get is-- - We get a few joke and they're like, "Yeah, he goes like, "Hey, this is black." And you're like, "Yeah, fuck." So we take this, we pour this over this to melt this butter. - When did you get into cooking, man? - When I started dating Leanne. I had a period of my life. - Did she know good? - She was not. You know, one of the best decisions she ever made was to stop cooking. She goes, "You know what, I'm done cooking." I was like, "Thank God." The dogs walked into the room. They're like, "What did she say?" My daughters were like, "We're coming back from college." - You know when the meal's over and somebody says, "I'm full." You know, it's a great night when nobody gets up from the table. That's my favorite part. Dinner's done. Plates are cleared. Nobody's hungry anymore. Nobody wants to leave either. Someone started telling a story. 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And I talk about it on Rogan. - Oh, please, please, give him the detail. It's, I mean, it was, it was pretty epic. - What did he say? - I mean, he was like, I mean, it's, it's, there's so much to it. So it's, first of all, six, in his own defense, it was like six in the morning. - You don't have to defend him. - He's, we do, we're doing a show. He's selling at the time, Kiss Coffins. He's got Kiss Coffins. - Double his coolers, by the way. - And he, it's not a joke. - And, and, and he's on the show. Very interesting, he, he came in and to check his own lighting, which was really fast. I've never seen someone do that before. - Yeah, he's vain. - He'll be able, so, he gets there early and then he goes to his green room. And now, I am, as a child, I have to say, and as a young adult, and up in my whole life, the number one kiss fan. I mean, when Ace really came out with his solo album in like 87, I bought that. Like, when Peter Chris left the band, I was heartbroken because that was my guy. I mean, 7/11 used to sell kiss cups, and my parents would wake me up by playing the, the 7/11 commercial that was come on, and they'd be like, "Burt, and I'd pop up on a bed." I was obsessed, obsessed with Kiss. There are pictures of me, plethora of pictures of me dressed as your dad, your dad, and Peter Chris. Never, and Ace Freely. Everyone, I dressed as everyone. I mean, one of my- I'm one of my strongest memories is driving to school in my mom's black leotards, what underwear? White underwear. Her knee high boots, her whatever chain belt she had dropped across my face as ace freely, and in the car next to my dad's shirtless with a cape on. And my dad was like, "Do you wanna bring a change of clothes?" And I said, "No." And he goes, "What if you get cold?" I said, "I won't get cold. I'm in my best outfit." And he's like, "Well, what if not everyone else is dressed like this?" And I go, "Then I'll look like the coolest guy at school." And so like, to say, I mean, I dressed as his dad, or in time, it might have been your dad. There's a picture, but you can find it. We will get it and put it up here. And I did a talent show. And so it was a party all night and rock 'n roll all night and party every day, right? More or less. Yeah, close enough. So I did a talent show. It was when they said, in first grade, when they said, we have a talent show, I went, "This is not me taking this fucking trophy home." And so I signed up, number one on the thing. I go, "Easy." I put on the costume. That's a deal, I mean, I already got the win. All I have to do is walk out on stage and then I'll just air guitar. I'll just play the music, music crushes. Of course. People are gonna hear the music. I'm gonna air guitar. And I put on the outfit. I have the album ready to go, there's no tapes yet. I have the album ready to go. And the dude next to me has a violin. And he goes, "What instrument are you playing?" And I was like, "Huh?" He was like, "Instrument for the talent show." And I said, "Instrument." No, I'm gonna play this record. I'm gonna jam out. And he was like, "So you don't have a talent per se?" And I went, "Huh?" And at that moment, I remember a talent. Oh shit, just like the band. And I was like, "I was like, fuck, "I don't think I thought this through." And so I did not win. But man, I fucking jammed out. So hard. I mean, I think I hurt myself. A for conviction. So that is my childhood, right? When the makeup came off, I was a Pat Fagan's house. I was heartbroken. That Christmas, that the haunted amusement park, the. - Was that a Kiss Me Safan on the park? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was a Pat Fagan's house. I remember the day Pat Fagan stopped listening to kids and started listening to Elvis. And I was like, "I can't go to his house anymore." I was obsessed with this band. Six in the morning, one of my four heroes is two doors down and they come to me and they're like, "Would you like to interview Gene Simmons?" And I was like, "My life has led me to this point." - I said, "I think I'll be good." And they're like, "We have many pre-everything." - Pre-worked out fines. - Everything worked out. - This is gonna be perfect. - He is gonna be so excited when he finds out that I'm a fan. He's gonna be like, "Shut the fuck up, you like Kiss?" And you like to me? - Hold on, you're telling me these are all things that I think are gonna be the top of its time. - Humility. That's just what you think of when you-- - Can I see how far your tongue is? I go, "Gene, you're gonna fucking love this." - It's actually decent. - It's a nice tongue. It's 'cause I was fucking young doing it my entire childhood. Knock on the door. Door opens. It's Gene Simmons. I'm a Simmons. My name is, "Sh." And he shuts the door and I went, "Okay." I didn't go the way I thought it would. Maybe he's on a call, I'll give him a minute. I sit there for a second. Another knock on the door. Door opens and he goes, "You again?" I said, "Yeah, and he just shut the door." I went, "All right, don't worry about it. I'll catch him in hair and makeup." So, 'cause I gotta do a pre-interview. So I sit in hair and makeup. And I'm getting hair and makeup. He comes in and he goes to get his hair and makeup done. And I go, "So Mr. Simmons, I'll be interviewing." He goes, "Can you, it's very early. Can you please give me a minute?" And I went, "Yeah." I do no pre-interview. I then get the producers walk into my room and they're like, "I heard it's not going so hot with jean." And I said, "Who said that?" And they're like, "Jean." (laughing) And they're like, "What?" And they're like, "He would rather someone else interview him. He doesn't want you to interview him." And I was like, "I don't think I've gotten to say anything to him." I was like, "Let me tell him that I'm a big fan." And he goes, "And so I go to his door again." I knock on the door. He has not excited. I go, "Mr. Simmons, I gotta tell you, I'm the biggest kiss fan in the world." And he goes, "He goes good for you." And he shuts it on, I'm like, "Okay." So I go, "Listen, I go, I can win this back." I go, "Let me do the person that's interviewing, Daphne. Let me tell her all the questions I have about kiss." And then she's gonna leave. So I give her all my pre-interview questions that I'm obsessed with. She sits down, it's me and her, Engine Simmons, and the interview goes, "Fucking glowing." And she says, "In the interview, he's like, "This is really, I can't believe how much you know about kiss." She says, "I'm like, I'll tell you, Bert, Jean. Bert here is the biggest fan of kiss." And he goes, "Really?" And I'm like, "All right, we connected. Cameras or break, we got to go to commercial." And then I go, "I gotta tell you." And he goes, "Hey, turn around." He says, "Excuse me. There's, turn around. I'm speaking to someone." Like, "Jeep, I might." And I'm like, "Huh?" And he's like, "Please, I'm speaking to someone." So he's talking to Daphne. I have to try. It's my show. I turned my back. I'm like, "Huh?" They go back from commercial. And I'm like, "Okay, I get." And so then at the very end, he comes up and he goes, "All right, fanboy, you want to get a pic?" And I was like, "I'm good. I call my mom, I go, fuck Jean Simmons." And I was like, "This is the worst." So then, I tell this story on Rogen. I tell this story a couple of times. - Didn't he say something like it near the end of this? I mean, you told me he said, "Get this guy the fuck out of here." - Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's, yeah, that, I believe it was like. - Well, because it all writes, the boat writes itself. - I was getting locked out of here. It was the sort of figure for me. When you told me that, I was mortified. - And so Mark Cronin, my executive producer was like, "I think they're going to want you to leave the interview." And I was like, "Okay." It did not go well. I've told this story a couple of times. I get blocked by Jean. - What? - I got blocked by Jean on Twitter. - What? - I went on Twitter. - I didn't know. - And so. - Jesus dude. - And so, wait, can I, so can I preface the redemption bit with something? - Please. - So I take him to Bert's show, not knowing the story. I take it at the forum. And, you know, Dad's like, "Look, there is us on the wall "at the forum, what we've played here at the forum." And then I, you know, oh, yeah, I'm big fan of this guy. Like him, and then he already loves Christina, 'cause she's Hungarian. They've already spoken Hungarian to each other. - Wow. - So he's like, "Oh, he's part of that." Okay, that's great. He has no memory of this interaction with you at all. - Zero. - Zero. - And then he tells me that. He takes me side and he goes, "You know." - No, no, no, no. - Yes, sorry. Go ahead, he comes over. And I said, "Dude, and I know he's been on YMH." I think he's fucking hysterical. Really approachable, really regular. Anyone who listens to podcasts, I always get, that if you, you know, I get that world of time in that world. I listen to podcasts, and he comes up, and he's like, "Great show, whatever, you know, "I would love to introduce you to my dad." And I went, "I'm good." And he went, "What?" And I said, "I'm good." And he goes, "Why?" And I said, "I had a bad interaction with your dad." And he goes, "Hold on for a second." He gets his mom, and he comes over and he goes, "Can you tell it to my mom?" And I go, "I rather not." And she goes, "Don't leave out any detail." So I give this, I tell them the story. And hear mom is like backstage of the forum. - Yeah, this is backstage, I'm shirtless. - He's over there. - My parents are there. My parents are there. - My family. - My daughters, my sister Georgia was there. And I tell the story, and his mom is like almost enjoying it. The way I loved it to Trash Tom, she's loving it. And she goes, "Let's make him apologize." - Yeah. - Yeah. - And so, you can, that's-- - Oh, yeah, that's nice. - So, Dean comes over and he has clueless, and he goes, "It was a fantastic show. You were a real talent in his mom and him go, "Hold on a second. Can you tell my dad the story you just told us?" And I go, "Had rather not." And it didn't go well the first time. He was like, "Wait, I'd love a good story." And I go, "I don't think you're gonna like this one." I was like, "In 2000, I was on a show called The Act Show." And he goes, "Never heard of it." And I was like, "Okay, this tracks." I tell the whole story, and his dad looks at me, and he goes, "I have been known to misbehave." I would like to sincerely apologize. I don't remember any of this, but it sounds a lot like me. You also, you told a very nice, you were even nice then. You were like, "You left out the fuck off." I left out. So I chimed in and I go, "You told him to fuck off." Yeah, I would go, "No." And I go, "Yeah." And he was very, you know, apologetic. I already put it in. No, I did all of it. Garlic, I chopped it up already. So, but it was, it was, and we hugged. He gave me five dollars for my troubles. He did. He gave me five dollars and he signed it. And he signed it on my back. And someone took a picture and posted it. And the internet comments were, Gene Simmons just colored Bert's shirt. And I was like, "What?" The internet always gets it right. The internet, Jesus. They really do, they really just 10 out of 10 to the accuracy. The internet, man. It made, so the reason I don't comment on anything, 'cause you're never right, you're always wrong. We've learned, we've spent way too much time on the internet the last year. And I've just, I've learned. It's, there are a lot of lovely people out there and none of them are online. Well, the fuck is always trying to outskate a bit. Boy, is that the fucking proof? I mean, it almost makes you say, like, and I know there's people hearing this going, "Yeah, but I comment on the internet." And that's not me. And you go, "No, no, it is." - Okay, well, we-- - I also don't know, we talk about this. How many people do you know in real life that leave me and YouTube comments on someone they don't know? I don't think I know anybody, so-- - Well, no, who are these people? - No, we definitely do know. - Who? - We just don't know. - But like, no one-- - And who would-- - And who would-- - And who would-- - And who would-- - Sitting at home. - He never admitted to it. He said he would never-- - Really? - I don't know anyone who would admit to that behavior, but clearly there's a lot. - No, there's a ton. - I wanna know who these people are and if they have, you know, who their friends are. - Marcia's a burner for sure. - No way. - For sure. - For sure, band-made-- - Like this? - There's no way Marcia doesn't have a burner. - Happy people don't do this. - Yeah. - Yeah. - If you're happy with your life, you don't feel the need to go, "Lady Gaga, fuck you." Like, you know-- - I've definitely gone back at a couple of people. Like, late at night, I've seen a couple of things, I'm just in a mood, it's 3 a.m., I'm alone. I'm like, "Yeah." - I've never even come in and back, and I've wanted to come back. And by the way, there's a guy I did a rant today about a guy-- I watched a video a guy did about a friend of mine who's going through some rough times. And a guy left a really nasty video commenting on my friend's life. And I know my friend's life. And I know that it was somewhat inaccurate. And it bothered me. And it got really in my feelings. And I did this. I'm not gonna post this. I don't think. But one of the things that's very popular, people that don't like me, clip out, "Burt Crusher Crash is Out." That's a very popular, gets a lot of views. "Burt Crusher Crash is Out" over Joe Rogan. But Joe Rogan cancels "Burt Crusher." And it's like, "None of that's real." But they get views. And so I thought, "I'm gonna do my own crash out moments." Like, "Why not monetize what I'm already good at "is crashing out?" And so I did a crash out on this guy who did a video about a friend of mine going through a rough patch in his life. And I fucking torched him. And it was so mean. And it was so arrogant. And it was so fucking, the internet would love it. If I said it right now, they'd clip it out. And they're dicks, we get hard. Their fat wife would be like, "What are you doing on here?" He's like, "Shut the fuck up, horror." I'm getting those views. If you want a bass fishing boat, then goddamn it, I gotta make my YouTube channel. I'm a YouTuber, honey. - I remember you heard you do accents, it's decent. - I'm great at accents. I wanna do a cooking show. Where I wanna do a cooking show, where I do it in the accent of the people I make the food for. - No, it was decent. - I like that. - I was going to make a little bit of spaghetti, eh? - A small billion spaghetti meal, eh, eh. - I shouldn't have said this. I'm too bad I'm making you staked. So I just gotta be like, I hope you guys support the military. - Looks awesome. - Put some curry powder on there and go crazy. - You guys shoot guns? - I bet the sound guy loves it. - Dude, let me tell you something about Joe Rogan. - Oh, you mean my primary source for news? - By the way, I have to say, he clearly was mine for a very long time. I've been like, I crossed, let me tell ya. I got Anderson Cooper's number. I call Joe Rogan Perse. I go, tell me about fucking peptides. - Yeah, you're like, this guy has CTE. - If you think Joe Rogan's misinformed you, you should see me. I call him personally. - Have you seen the clip of Gillis and. Hold on. If you're saying, have I seen the clip of Gillis? - That's like saying. - That's just Ari on Rogan and him telling him, hey, do you hear about the bribery thing? I pay $100,000 and get early tweets from the president. And Joe's like, no. - I go. - Yeah, your algorithm's fucked, man. - This is my key. - No, that can't be true. He wouldn't do that. Not my boy. Not my special boy. - I, Jesus Christ dude. - My algorithm is just shameless. - Well, first of all, I love shame, I love shame, but it is all my algorithm. And can I tell you? - He's one of the goats, man. - There's a lot of comics that are jealous of him right now since he's doing such big things. When you're not jealous of someone and they blow up and it's like him and Theo are my two joyful algorithms. I've watched. - Yeah, I don't get it. - I don't understand that, especially if you're friends with the person. Like I get sometimes-- - Well, but it's the same thing with music, when you see a friend. - They try to pit us, you know? - You know, a friend's band blow up and I have friends who have gotten so jealous of others. I'm like, no, they're making great music and they're doing well, they're good people. It's good for everyone, man. This is a good thing. - I don't get, no way if it seems undeserved. Like this material is blows, there's no reason for this. But like I, people try to do that to me and him or me and my sister. They try to be like, my sister's doing really well with songwriting. - It's like killing it. - Even going back to kiss, it's fun. - Aren't you jealous? - People give our dads a ton of shit for the makeup and the costume and everything, but if you strip all of that away, the songs are great and talk about harmonies. It's funny. On the last tour, watching them, like, wait, their harmonies are fantastic. There's just so much other stuff going on that it almost can take a back seat, but can the buildings defend your father's for a second is, here's the thing. I will say I share a common ground with them. It is very easy to shit on something that's got a thing. Like if there's a guy who formed shirtless. I'm a lot like kiss. I mean, they formed what I loved and I understood what your dad's thought is like, listen, there's a million bands out there. - What's a hook? - Yeah, it's a hook. And you know, when I did my first special shirtless, I thought I thought I was wrong, but I was like, if you see someone's shirtless, you're gonna go, what is that? Well, I didn't realize that when television, you're in someone's shirtless and you're living room, you turn it off. That my special did really poorly. I didn't realize that it's in a front to be shirtless in someone's living room, but that same thing that got you to turn the television off and the internet wasn't what it was when I did that special, when you see someone's shirtless on the internet, you click on it because you're like, what is that? And so it did help me on the internet. It didn't help me on television. - Brad Pitt gets both. - With the shirtless. - The head of showtime was like, I think you're giving people a reason to turn the channel. So like, can we just do it with your shirt? And I went, yeah, but this is how I do all my, this is how I do all my stuff. - Are you going back to shirt? - No, never going back to shirt. And so, but it's very lazy for someone to criticize kiss because they wore makeup. There's another lazy take, you know? And it's an easy take. And quite honestly, if you're going to criticize, no, whatever. - Find something, oh, there's plenty. - Well, the comments that we get are hilarious 'cause most of the people trying to shit on us are due to the dads and they haven't even listed the stuff. - Yeah, and again, we talk about them 'cause it's easy to focus on. It's actually been really surprisingly positive. I mean, we've been, I was like, I was expecting a lot more fuck you when we started this. - People have been really cool. - I mean, the reason we're going on tours because the response has been unexpectedly positive. So we focus on the negative because that's what I do. - Yeah, it's focused on the negative. - The fuck is to me is people, you'll see online saying, yeah, the tour nobody wants me. I don't know, man, we're selling a lot of tickets. 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Like, you want to, "Mick is always better than Keith." No, no. Keith is always way cooler than Mick. I go, "Why don't you just listen to a stone's record, man?" Yeah. What are we doing? This is narrowed shit. I mean, this is crazy. It's like, "Spock or Kirk better." It's like, "Get out of here, fuckin' work." Listen, just watch the, yeah, but let's watch the show, you know, why don't we just watch the show? We just watch the show. You know, it's just weird. I don't know. But I also like, I think you guys have the right take of it, is like, if you put yourself in the public eye in any sense, you are volunteering to be criticized, and I think that's all for the good. I think anybody who's like, "I don't want to get criticized, like, I'll show them." I'm like, "No, no, that's the deal. You go and throw in a camera." That's the price for doing what you love to. You get shit on the end. So, like, I think I welcome it. I hope they're harsh. I don't give a fuck. Enjoy. Like, I really don't care. Well, the truth is, it's great. It's like, and I feel bad because I've punished the people that love me because I don't read comments. So, like, if you leave a positive comment on this, I'll never see it. Now, here's the reason. Less interesting. I got, well, it's not less interesting. It makes me feel good. It doesn't make me feel good. Equally is what the bad one makes me feel bad. Yeah. The bad one makes me feel bad so much more. But I can't allow someone access into my personal feelings. My brain is not a great place. I'm not in love with it. But I deal with it. And I can't have other people come in and fuck with my brain. And, you know, it's like the reason I've changed numbers is because my number gets leaked. And then when someone can call me, I only call you because they're with their boys and they're, like, videotaping and they're, like, dude, you fucking suck. Ha! And you're like, oh, man, I was with my kids. I'm in the park. Like, I can't let you do that to me. So, that's why I stand in the comments. And I don't mean it. It bums me out that I do it. It's how I. I can't imagine what it's like for you because we're, I mean, we've taken half a baby step. And already, I kind of log off the comments, too, because, like you said, it's great to hear the nice ones. But, yeah, you hear one bad one, you're like, cool. That's my day right there. Yeah. I don't want to give them my emotional energy. I got to write songs. I got to do all the other stuff. So, your level, it must be, you know, it must be far beyond, you know, what we do with it. You know what? It's. I'll tell you what the payoff is. I have a nice house. Yeah. My kids get to go to college. It is the price. You pay for any sort of public work, is that you get to be judged and talked about by the public. The thing that sucks is that my daughter would have to deal with it, like my daughter. Yeah, that I hate. That I fucking hate. See, I pulled up to you on the Royal Canyon. Oh, yeah. So, I was helping this other. We had this band called The Velvet Day Dream open up for us for one of the early gigs that we tried out. Your big house party, basically. And they. We threw a big house party. We brought them in. A pool bus that they toured in, that they converted into a tour bus. And I was helping this guy with gear on this other road. So, I pulled up my car and I kind of put my hazards on and I was about to like help him with stuff. And this guy was like laying on his horn by me. This is on the Royal Canyon, like a busy. It's not. It's not on like. It's an off-street. It's one of those sort of small residential streets, right? So, there's like, you know, if I had seen that, I would have just gone around. Whatever. There's no one there. But he pulls up next to me and then trouble parks and starts to yell at me and I go, "Dude, just go around." And I see him kind of register me and then he goes, "You should probably move your car. Oh, and your dad sucks." And then he drives away. And I kind of go, "All right, all right. Okay. Like, because I parked wrong?" Like, "Dad sucks." But I was like, "What does he think is going to happen after that?" Am I going to go, "Oh, my God." He sucks. I'm going to stop talking to this man. I'm going to. I'm done with him forever. Like, that just changed my life. My dad sucks. My dad sucks. I didn't know. Dad, did you know that you suck? I didn't. And he goes, "I do." And he's, and we're all going to, "Yeah, you should kill yourself." Okay, I'm going to do it today. Click. And then that's. That's. He thinks it's going to have some sort of big impact. And really, it's just going, "That's a bummer that that guy dislikes me." But to take the extra step into yelling is weird to me. Unless you're like a war criminal, I get yelling at that guy on the street. But there's a lot of celebrities I hate. I would never walk up to a celebrity who's movie, I fucking hate, and go, "Boo." You know, like, fuck you. I'm just going to not watch that film. How about taking another step? Would you walk up to their brother? And by the way, not a celebrity. Yeah, it's like. By the way, they're kid. They're. You're not even walking up to the person you don't like. You're walking up to someone who's related to them or knows. I hated Conair. So I walk up to Nick Cage's son and I go, "Fuck your fucking dad's movie." And it's like, that guy didn't do anything. He was born. He was born. He was born. And he used to do that to, he used to do that to, like, Obama's kids. They used to be like, "Look at this fucking, this fucking kid." And she's just going to school. Like, she's like 12. And they're like, "Fuck, and over the book." And she's like, "Hi, I'm a little girl. Like, I just want to play with Barbies." And that's a grown-up. That's fucked. That's a. I can't. I can't get behind that, man. It sucks. But relative thing is fucking. But it's also like, you know, "woe is me" says the man from the castle. You know, because it's like. I think people. No, no, we had no complaints. We had a great life. I have zero complaints. I have a really great life. And I'm, you know, I'm really happy. And the things I'm upset about have nothing to do with them. It's with me. It's like, "The shit I'm going through personally as an artist and as a dad and as a husband and as a guy who's got an exterior lifestyle." But also, the reason those people are saying that is also because of that, right? Something happened that day. They had road rage or something about it and that you were the punching bag for their emotional life because you're in front of their face. It would almost make it great if he didn't know who your dad was, but that was his go-to thing. Your dad sucks. Yeah, it's like your mom. I fucked your mom. It's like one of those just general umbrella. It would be crazy like if like Jenna Jamison's kid hears, "I fucked your mom" and he's like, "Oh, it could have been." Probably. Yeah, probably. But even then, I understand people who shit on me on the internet, because I do it to people. I do it. I've done it. And it's like. And I didn't mean it. There was a kid who shit on me on the internet and he was a friend of mine and the kid goes "Burt Chrysler." And I was like, "Oh, I know this guy." And so I clicked "Follow." I clicked "Like" real quick and then I clicked "Follow." And then I went to their page, I said, "Follow both of them, giving me a little love on the internet." And then I went back and watched the video and the guy was like, "Burt Chrysler fucking sucks." And I was like, "Oh, I've already followed him." Like, "Well, that smells good." I find that hurt. I can't tell. The two things that really do throw off, people like that, is one, you agree with them. You double down and self-deprecate. You go like, "Yeah, you're right. It really does blow. I should probably kill myself." And then they don't know where to go. Or you do what you do. You follow them and try to make friends and then they don't know what to do. Oh. Because they got your attention, which is kind of what they wanted in the first place. And they go like, "Well, I don't know. I was just trying to. I mean, someone said something like, "Antisemitic to you." You were talking to that part of that guy. A crazy, anti-Semitic. Put your Jewish? DM, yeah. Or my tax life. Or my tax life. It's like. Only ethnically. It's. And I called him out. And we've gotten a couple anti-Semitic things. That's the only one we're like, "Oh, your Jewish too, toast for everybody." Look at my face. Look at my fucking face. It's like. Yeah, it's my first. Where did the curls come from? Yeah. And I was just like, "Hey man, it was one of those weird ones that like, "Do you hate me or do you like me?" A bunch of anti-Semitic shit. And then he said something like, "Really? Nice stuff." And I'm like, "I. What?" So I. I. What? And then he just. He sent me. I was with Nick, like, probably seven minutes of multiple voice notes being like, "You know, like, I was just mess around man, but you guys. " The guy voice note him. You know, like, "Jews do run Hollywood." But like, I'm just asking, like, "Do you know anyone who isn't Jewish who's in Hollywood or in a big band?" But like, "You know, I didn't mean it like that. Like, we're good man." But like, "Jews do. Kind of run everything." And like. So he has this idea. He has like this sincere idea and he thought he didn't realize it was much of an insult, really. He was just like, "Yeah, we all know it, right? Jew." And he kind of whipped it out. And when we were like, "Hey man, cool with the end of Seven to Them." He was like, "Oh, I'm not anti-Semitic." Like, I'm not. Oh, like. I didn't mean like that. What do you mean about, like, "You Jew?" Yeah, like that's. Like, that's a weird way to start a DM. Joe Pesci. "You Jew might a fucker you." Like that fuck you. "You Jew." But I'm not anti-Semitic. And this weird cognitive dissonance where we're like, "Oh, this guy's just been fed some bad info." Yeah. All the way we do run everything. But other than that. Well, the Jews. What, hang on. The Jews started Hollywood. I don't know if they run it. But they don't really start it. Can I tell them the story about Dad watching the news? Okay. So do you know. So when Kanye started the "History" prince? I already love where there's this ghost. So Kanye started. This is pre-Swastika T-shirt, but post him talking about the Jews in general. Yes. So Kanye starts talking to his Jew shit. And Dad is. I was. I went over to my parents' house and Dad is kind of kicking his feet up watching the news. And it's like. Kanye says something along the lines of like, "You know, the Jews just run Hollywood." And then without missing a beat, my dad turns over his shoulder and he goes, "We do." And then he turns around and without missing. And I kind of go, "What was that?" And he goes, "No, it's true." And I'm looking and my mom's in the background and she just goes, "The fuck is wrong with you?" And he goes, "No, like historically, and he just weighs in." and he goes, "Oh, I would talk about how they were. It used to be a vaudeville and it used to be looked down upon." But the way he said it sounded like, "Yeah, I'll take you to the meetings." Where we control the weather. And I was like, "Excuse me? Pardon me? What the fuck was that?" That was crazy. I do, I heard a guy, I won't say the guy's name, he's a friend of mine. And he was talking to a very famous comedian, or very famous actor. And they were explaining how the Jews were on Hollywood. And I was like, I gotta be honest with you, man, like Stacy's Jewish. And I said, did you ever hear the thing about like the Jews have horns? Tell 'em, tell 'em right now. - You, you. - Tell 'em. The gist of it is my dad was with a nice young lady who started poking around in his hair and when he was like, "What are you doing?" She was looking for horns. This is a very long time ago. - A young girl that came on tour. - The funniest part of that story. I heard that from you. - Yeah, Paul told it to Dad who told it to me. - Yeah. - You know, this is gonna sound naive, but like, I'd hear the thing about horns and I'd laugh hysterically and go, it's funny. And then I'd make a joke about it casually. I didn't realize people actually believed that. - I didn't know that people actually believed that until you told me that story eight months ago. - I don't know how many of them are left, but there's some, probably. - Come on, I'm like, do actually-- - It's Joe Lawrence who's like, fucking, this sucks. He's got a crazy head of hair and he's like, he's like, yeah, it's a Jew fro. - That's all it is. - Open Uncle Bald. - But so when I hear people talk about anti-semitism, I assume they're joking, I assume it can't be real, I assume they're making a joke about the people that believe that. And then there I am with two guys that are really talking about Jews running Hollywood. And I'm sitting down and I'm laughing. - And they get into this-- - They stop laughing. - They know that and they start saying they go, I mean, the proof is in the fucking. How many movies do we have to hear about this goddamn Holocaust? And I was like, this is a pretty big event. And they're like, yeah, it's got a big deal. - They go, I mean, can you imagine two movies about the Titanic? I mean, they did one, we get it. And I was like, well, six million is a little different than like 700, and they were like, I mean, and they were just going on and on and then, and then they started talking about actors who shouldn't be famous but are because they're Jewish. And I'm like, oh, you guys are being serious. And I was like, oh my God. - Oh my God. - And then, yeah, and I was like, oh, I didn't know that you could, I was like, I always believed in the joke of making fun. Like, make fun of a Jewish guy because he's Jewish as a joke to make fun of people doing that joke as opposed to really believing it. - Well, we've had those moments where we've talked about this. You know when you're in a group of people and there's like the new person you're joking about, something what you're joking about is the absurdity that someone actually believes this. - Yes, they're playing that guy. - That dude's like, yeah, right? Am I right? And you're like, what, excuse me? 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All right, I'm not going to compliment you. I've got to tell you, do your parents ever discipline? Okay, this is a, I wrote this joke last night. 'Cause I was at the black crow. The Jews. Okay. I was at the black crow's, trucks into the, to the asking trucks in Whiskey Mires. I say all the bands, say all the bands deserve respect, but it's a black crow. That's nice. And so, and I, and I noticed that Chris Robinson has talks rock star. What's up? Hollywood. Yeah. Monday night, rock and roll. Did your parents ever discipline you that? I need everyone down here for dinner. That'd be Paul, if anybody. I mean, that, I was pretty much like, why did you get a B on this? No, he never went rock star on you? He never went Dr. Rock so. No, it's way scarier when he doesn't. And he was like, "I made dinner." There's a meme going around of Paul Stanley calls you when you're sick. Have you seen that meme? No. Yeah, that's pretty good. What is it? It's a guy doing a really good Paul stage anti-impression calling. Do you have a fever? It's like that shit. You know, it's not that really good, but he does the impression. It's, it's making the rounds right now. Dude, I wish I didn't have this Paul up. I could do a pretty fucking different impression. Of you dad? Yeah, I get Nick with it all the time. We'll be in the studio and just go off. You say it into the mic and I go, "You cannot do that on the show." We cannot. Well, I love it. It's so easy. We've switched places where, you know, our dads have spent 50 years together of Gene make my dad go, "No, no, no, no, don't say that. Please don't do that. No, no, no, no." And we've switched. And now I get to Needle Nick and it's my favorite thing. Yeah. Dude, dad, as your dad ever said, it's what's, my dad has a business partner, Larry Fuentes. And my dad said to me one time when I started being business partners with time, I have a business partner, Tom Sagerra. Now, I joke about Tom all the time. But there are things that I have made fun of Tom for that then I go thankful for and my kids would know that. My kids like know my relationship with Tom. He's your dad ever said like, "I mean, the merchandising, a kiss is crazy, but then all the sudden I'm like, "Hey man, this vacation's paid for by the coffins." Well, because your dad was in charge of merchandising. No, it was really a joint. Oh, for real? My dad always took the hit though. Everyone was like, "Oh my God, these interviews are all about how much he loves money and whatever." But here's the thing. I think they're a different approach as to that, it comes from a different child. People forget, my dad's whole thing about money, money. He literally acts like a Jewish stereotype and it's sometimes makes the rest of the family stress out a lot. That comes from poor immigrant mentality. he was a ten-year-old. of immigrant in New York, like struggling to learn language. And that's that level of like, I must amass money so that no one can hurt me is that. So he forgets, he leaves that part out. He just goes, I love money, fuck anyone, it doesn't love money. Rich is good. - He's totally not a material. Jean is not a material, isn't he? - It's like stuff. - At all. - I've saw his shoes, he wears regular people's shoes. - He wears free hats all the time. If you give him a hat, he'll wear it for 10 years. He doesn't know what's on it, doesn't care. He wears dirty t-shirts and it's not about that. It is a wall between him and the starvation he felt when he was a kid. - Yeah. - So no one remembers that, but he talks about money more because of that point of view. - And Paul was also like very poor, but he's poor in America and he had, he said, he had the sort of cultural training of, hey, you know, it's kind of rude to like rub someone's face in that and dad doesn't have that background. He has this sort of, I claw my way into the American dream and fuck anyone who gets in my way and it comes from that. - But is what makes partnerships great? I mean, you have to have the same, I think foundational values and the same goals, but having a great partner is having someone who balances out you and what you're good at and what you're not good at. I think it's something that really just by chance but luckily clicked with us, whether it's personality or skill set or anything else, we really work together well 'cause the total is a lot greater than the sum of the parts and we're able to accomplish more together. And with them, I think that's the case and that's why it's endured for as long as it has is they have a common goal and for any times that they weren't aligned on small things, you just zoom out and go, well, this is what we're really working on. Okay, great, it's easy to make decisions that way. - I don't know, the Rolling Stone article they had when they were like, you know, 50 years of feuds when we kind of go, what feuds? - Like in our experience, the, I was like, I heard Fleetwood Mac, I mean, fuck, there's a lot of more dramatic interband relationships than them, they just had some members leave sometimes. - But that's, they actually fight a lot less than almost any band I've heard of. - People like to get into this. They kick these guys out and they kick into the curve and say, well, dude, like if you're in a partnership with someone and all of a sudden they're not showing up or occasionally they do show up but in a capacity where they can't work or perform and I'll say, you probably get pretty pissed too and that's not only your passion but your livelihood. - 100%. You show up and you're on, you just drank a bottle of perfume and you know, you're wasted at your mind and you can't play the part anymore. You kind of go, well, what do we do about that? And they tried for a very long time as far as I remember. I mean, this is all from their point of view but they tried, they were like, we could make this work, we could find, but at some point, well, I have to play the show. - Well, it's also evidenced by the records. You know, they were, both those guys were still in the band for quite a while when they weren't playing on anything 'cause that's a hard thing to let go of. You don't want people to leave, you don't want to send them away but eventually the reality sets in of late, it's either we continue or none of this continues. - Yeah, so anyway, it's funny. I know the press they get and it's his fault, for sure, my old man has a huge mouth. But. - No, I respect that about your dad. I like it. I like it. I heard. - And he leans into that character. It's actually not the 100% authentic. It's this asshole character. Like he works, I guess. - Demon. - But it's like also the business guy, the fuck you guy and at home, you know, and if you ask him to justify any of those statements, he will then take you down the history of like, oh, when I was a kid, I had nothing and now I have this and I feel like people are always trying to take him. And then you kind of go, why don't you say that fucking part on CNN? So you'd be a little bit more. - Well, hell, dad. - Because sympathetic character. And he goes, no, I don't want to do that, I go. It makes my life easier. - It's a really nice, relatable part that explains everything. - When I talked about music, he sounds like a musician. He freaks out of, he's a Beatles maniac and he freaks out about little things. And I kind of go, why don't you say that on Fox? No, I want to talk about the issues of the day. You're not supposed to, you're a musician. Talk about fucking music for a change. - Well, when we were up there over New Year's, I found I didn't realize this, like, I'm a Graham Nash freak. I love Crosby Sills and Nash, I love The Hollies, but Graham, right? - I can see that on the top bit, yeah. - I love him, he's my favorite singer. I love his writing, I love his solo stuff. And he has these two solo records that really, you know, at the time, I guess they were moderately successful just because of who he was, but they weren't big records. And I mentioned one to your dad, then he and I just started texting Graham Nash videos, deep cuts. I mean, he, both of our dads are such an nerds and such. - Oh, he files. - His story is when it comes to music. Like, it's such an easy way to reach. - And the criticism of dead will often be, oh, he doesn't care about music. He just gets about money. It's like, yeah, that might be what he says. Talk to him about one of his favorite bands for five seconds. - Talk about my town for 20 seconds. - 20 seconds with that, dude. He will tell you trivia you've never heard before. He will tell you who was in the room when something was recorded. He'll be like-- - I'll win that shit. - Oh, when "Land of a Thousand Dances" by Wilson Pickett was recorded, this guy was standing in this corner. - Yes, he was. - When this guy was standing in this corner and this guy played the triangle and the thing. And he just goes down this rabbit hole. So you go, oh, so you're not just a business guy. You're an intense audiophile. You just don't think that'll sell. So you don't bring that out in public because you think your stick is working. And it's a shame. I think he does himself a disservice by doing that. - Well, you know what? It's a disservice that, quite honestly, history or remember, is your dads are going down in history. I mean, there's, when you die, you take nothing with you except for your legacy and what you leave. - You know what he says when people say that. - What? - He says, you know, you die. You can't take your money with you. He goes, "Fuck you, stuff my corpse with it. "Stuff it into my casket, stuff it in my mouth. "I'm taking it with me." - That's great. - Can I ask you real quick? It just says, so you guys are gonna get on tour. Your first album is out. - On August 28th. - On August 28th. - It's still only though, we're doing vinyl and CDs first. - Okay, then here's my question. - Yeah. - As the spawn of the men that had inarguably, in my opinion, the best album covers ever. - Jay Giles, kiss on a wall. What is your album cover gonna look like? And what is your favorite kiss album? - Oh, it's out. I'll show you. What's your favorite kiss album cover? - That's hard one. My favorite is either rock and roll over or hot on a hell. I love both those covers. - It's rock and roll over. Hold on, hold on. I got-- - It's such cool covers. Can someone get me like a iPad or a computer with the kiss covers? - Hey Siri, get me all the kiss covers. - That's gonna sound weird. - Yeah, so here's the album cover. Do you wanna take a look, see? We have this great artist named Carmen. She goes by sketchy goat. - Is everyone cool with medium rare? - Yeah, yeah. - Everyone cool with just-- - She drew this of us for fun and we bought it from her. And she's now designing a bunch of stuff for us, but this is the album cover. - Wow. - Wow, that's great. - Yeah, she's fucking amazing. - Here we go. This is the best podcast ever. - This is so-- - Like who would wanna go on a just talkie talkie pod? This is amazing. - Here you go. - Dude, young. - Okay, my favorite part of a rib eye is this cap. You can get just the cap, you get some restaurants, but that is my favorite. - On top of the eye. - Okay. Dude, how often do you do this? I'd be the size of a house. I mean Tom wrote a song about that, but remember? - No. - That is fat, that, that, that, that is, remember that whole song? - Yeah. - I remember that. - There's great, great bed. Lasted for 12 months. - Well, it's lasted a lot a little longer. (laughing) - Reason I'm on peptide. - You look slim, man. I based on the last footage I saw, you look half the size. - I'm about 50 pounds. - Damn, dude. - Yeah, damn. - Congrats, that's crazy. - Well, it is. - And without losing muscle, like Tom did. - He lost a lot of muscle. - How do I, how does one? - Oh, here, I'm sorry. - How do I off one? Hands. - Here. - You do me, I'll do you? - Okay. By the way, we didn't mention this. Everyone thinks we're gay, and then in a couple. - We mean things. - That's another thing. - So you guys should really play into that. - Oh, we are. - That's a cool rock and roll. - Oh, we are. Oh yeah. Okay, can I go on this tie rate for a second? Do you mind? - I don't need this one, but I'm sure. - The gay one. - Oh yeah. - Okay. Whenever I see, and it's always like an older dude. - Oh, this is. Call us gay. I click on his profile. Like they go like, you guys are fucking gay, you were like gay, looking at fucking colors and whatever. - Every single one of the profile pictures was taken like this. - Yeah, with Oakley's on in the car. It's always that guy. - Oakley's in the car. (laughing) You know what it is. You know the guy. - That is fucking brilliant. - Oakley's on. - Every fucking picture. - Go team, Oakley's. - If you leave any comments, I got a million dollars that says you also do this. - Yep, that's right. That's right. So anyway, it's that guy. And evidently they go like, one comment literally said, this is verbatim 'cause I screenshot it and saved it. This is gay. Your dad's never dressed gay. - Excuse me. (laughing) - Arguably. - The gayest. - Arguably the gayest. - Arguably. - Yeah. - That's gayer than David Bowie and Freddie Mercury and a hot tub together. Get the fuck out of here. What have you seen of them? - Fucking hysterical. - I've seen literally Licks Tommy on stage every night. - They wore feather boas and pod pieces. Are you out of here? But to so. - Pod piece was a fucking move. - That's not even the thing. So I click on these profiles and inevitably, they will have pictures of rock stars that they like. It would be Prince, Mick Jagger, Bowie, Queen. - Can I go, please? - Sure, everything you like is gay. - Yeah. - Everything. All of 70s rock is androgynous. That was the point. It was scaring the conservative parents by cross dressing and having long hair and wearing tight jeans. That was the whole point of rock music in the 70s. It was to transgress against the conservative buttoned up mad men culture from the time. So when you go, how did we become the most homophobic demographic rock fans? You used to be. to be the most cross-dressy demographic of all time. - It makes no fucking sense. - Fucking sense to me. - Prince is the gayest straight dude in the world. Look at the way he dressed. - Not even certain he was straight. Like that's how gay he was. - But like, how do you love that music and still get weird about a guy wearing too many colors? - How about anybody with a face? - Yeah, how did you? - Poison? - How did the most homophobic people, the most homophobic people on earth, like Judas Priest and Queen and Mick Jagger. And I kind of go, "Dude, have you seen any photos "of your heroes?" 'Cause I got news for ya. They don't look like lumberjacks, do they? - God. - So it fucking drives me nuts. The hypocrisy of that drives me nuts. - It's insane. - Like, dude, you like it. I know you do. That's why you're here. Embrace it. It's okay. - When I was a kid, you get called gay, freeing beats. - I know, and yet we were all listening to people who were like dressed with like eyeshadow and tights. And we didn't see any irony in that fact. - This is so fucking good by the way. - Good, man. Thanks. I'm done. - Crazy. - I'm done with my rant, sorry. - The, um, yeah, I almost think that, like, guys that call people gay. - Closeted. - They should donate to the LBGT fund, 'cause they really get a joy out of calling people gay. - It's a hobby. - So they can't lose gay people. 'Cause they need gay people in order to call things gay. - Oh yeah. - So they should do what they do with their day. - Yeah. - Yeah. - It's like guys, it's like guys that stock porn, so they can go fishing, you know. - I'm really banging out some fucking drugs. - What would pull cleaners do without a little fall foliage? What would they do? - Yeah. - Nothing, you need it. - Exactly. You need that man needs the Joker, you know? It's like COVID. - I don't know. (laughing) - I'm like, where is this going? - I was waiting. - I was waiting. - I was about to get real Rogan in here. (laughing) - Did you do what you landed on the moon? - Don't fucking do this to me. - No, just ask. - Don't do this to me. - I'm just asking. - He does that, explain what you're doing. - Tell them what you're doing. - I'm asking a question. - You know what you're doing. - All I'm asking is if you think we landed on the moon. - He does this on purpose. - This is a rolling bit. - Literally just a question. - I think we landed on the moon live. - Yeah, me too. Don't fucking tell me. - I think we didn't land on the moon. - Don't. - You think we didn't land on the moon? - No, he agrees with you. He's just fucking with me. - No, I think we're gonna be immortalized on YouTube forever. - Oh, wait, you don't pull, you're anti-vaxxer flat. - No, he's not. He wants me to squirm, and it's working. He likes to do this on TikTok live, so that people will start in 1948, we landed on the moon. Wait, I'm sorry, that wasn't 1948. In 1948, two brothers at a Tennessee created Mountain Dew. This fresh citrus taste gives you a kick that brings back iconic summer moments. Iconic summer moments need an iconic summer drink brought to you by Mountain Dew. - Is that not incredible? - Damn. - Do you think Epstein killed himself? - No, sorry, I don't think Epstein killed himself. - No, no, no, there's no fucking thing. - But that's like, that's not a conspiracy theory? That's a public record. - Well, it's like, Kennedy. - Don't fucking do it for me. - Wait, did Kennedy kill himself? - No, no. (laughing) No, but Oswald didn't shoot him. - Like the wildest insane trick shot suicide I've ever seen. - Just, he just went, tink, tink, tink, tink, tink, tink. - Conservatory call. - I've never heard anyone do that. I've heard a lot of Kennedy's theories. - I've heard a lot of there's no- - Kennedy killed himself? - There's been Kennedy killed himself. - Yeah, 'cause he saw the future. I want one of his family members who's gonna do. - He was like, he went up to Oswald and he was like, listen, here's the deal. And he did kill someone and he goes, sure. And he gives them the picture and he goes, but wait, that's you. And he was like, yeah. (laughing) And he's like, but wait, I don't get it. And he goes, you will. - Stephen King's story idea. - Do you like observatories? Not observatory. What was it? - Looked depository. - Is it depository? (laughing) - I thought you would think there's also one guy that's on an observatory going, I'm not thinking about the wrong place. - Every time, every time you do the moonlight thing, I'm gonna bring this up. I think Kennedy killed himself at the parade. - Can I tell you the one thing I wasted? - Okay, we can run with that. - The one thing I wish I could take off the internet, I was on a, I was highest fuck, and I was drunk, and I was on a black podcast called 85 South. - What's a black podcast? - It's just black people. It's like, it's just black. - I thought it was some, not a gory. It's a black podcast. It means it's black people. Black, I could have said African-American podcasts, but it's just black. And one of the guys said to me, I said, who's your favorite celebrity ever got to meet? And he goes, I'm that Martin. And I said, Martin Luther King Jr. And it was so quiet in there. And they were like, he was killed before I was born. And I was like, ah, yeah, right, right, or was he? - Who was he talking about? Martin Luther King Jr. killed himself. - No, no. - Here's his deal. I need you to kill this man. And then the guy was so racist, he goes there. - He was like, they all look alike. I'll kill anyone you want me to do. - Is that your Martin Luther King impression? - Yeah, yeah, wait, yeah, that was a bad one. I was like, yeah, I said, can you bleep out the whole impression? - That was like menstrual fucking theater. That was crazy. - Full school. - This is Martin Luther, I got a good Martin. - That's Abraham Lincoln. - Abraham Lincoln. (laughing) - Different guy. - I had the weirdest dream last night. (laughing) I was running in a pool. - I had the coolest. - Totally empty, you were there. You were there, Jesse? Jesse? - Jesse, do you really Martin Luther King telling you about a weird dream he had? - Is this an especially? - This is my pitch. He goes, ah, okay, he woke up that morning. The morning before that speech, and he goes, ah, had the weirdest dream last night. And they're like, no one wants to hear dreams, Martin. He goes, no, Jesse, we were sitting at the table with white people. And he was like, that is a weird fucking dream. And he was like, and every man was judged on his valet. And they're like, wait, wait, just take the weirdest out. And just say, I had a dream. And don't tell us about it was last night, because it doesn't matter, it's a middle of the day. No one wants to hear about your dreams. - Is this a bit? - No, I'm just doing it. And he goes, and he goes, okay, and he goes, so I just tell him about how to dream. And he goes, yeah, no, no, no, don't say it like, ah, had a dream. Say, ah, I had the most fucking dream. I had the most fucked up dream last night. (laughing) - Fuck, bro, I had the most fucked up dream last night. - Martin, Martin, I don't think you're getting it. And he goes, guys, it's a mountain, no, ah, ah, ah, ah. And then like, Martin, you gotta lose the chops, man. Just be serious. - I think you have a new clip you wish never existed on the internet. (laughing) - I had the weirdest fucking dream. (laughing) I was fucking two chicks, but they had elephant noses, but Martin was white and we were all getting along. - Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. But what was white? And so we were all getting along and it was crazy. People were watching and they didn't care. And they're like, yeah, we take out the elephant nose part. No, but that's the weirdest part of the fucking dream. We can workshop it. Hold on, there's something here. - There's something good. - Just keep the, I have it, just the white. The thing I think that it will get along, is getting along. It goes, should I tell them about the time? - The threesome? - No. - That left that part. - You leave that. - I had a dream that my feet were the size of cause. And I was walking down the street and white people didn't mind. Just take the car feet out. You were walking on the street and white people didn't mind. No, but that's the weird part. This isn't the part of the dream. The white people, that might happen. The dream is my feet, the size of cause. (laughing) - You better put this in some place. - This is going right here. - No, no, this is where it lives. - As a true chucklefucker comedy nerd, please put this in a show. Please, it's fucking, that thing has legs. You could take that, you could do 20 minutes. - I'm that fucking friend. - Ah, I had a dream, I had three legs. - I'm sweating, I'm sweating now. - Oh, I am sweating. - I don't, I think I use them all. - Oh my God. - Oh, you're moist. - I'm sweating. - Moisture than a noisture. - I almost threw up. Oh my God. - You go, guys. - That might be one of my favorite beds I've heard in a while. - Oh, fantastic. Then I'll start it with the fact that I said to, who was I talking to, was it Carlos? Was it Carlos? - We were just fucking dreaming. - Uh-huh. - That was weirdest. - Well, you know the truth of that story. - Your impression, by the way, got better as it went on. - Ah! - Now it's pretty good. - No, it's pretty good. - Do you know the true story of how that, I have a dream speech happened? This is anti-climactic. But do you know how it happened? He got to the end of his speech and he was kind of struggling in him a closer. And there was a gospel singer. - A closer. - Her name was Aliyah something. There was a gospel, not only in it, but I think her name was someone Google it. And she said, off stage, she goes, - Man, tell him about the dream. - I guess he had said it casually. - Yeah, swear to God. - It was an ad lib? - It was an ad lib. - No, no. - Was it, and he goes, ah, how do I know this? - Greatest ad lib of all time. - And of course, a woman came up with it and then the guy gets credit. Typical fucking suffrage. Martin Luther King canceled. - That would be so great. (laughing) - Can you read it? She was a gospel singer. - And. - Yeah, she inspired Martin Luther King to improvise his famous, I have a dream. - No way. - Yeah. - I'm kind of obsessed. And that's, I mean, she went up to him and she goes, "The end of his prepared remarks, Jackson called out "from the crowd, telling about the dream, Martin." - No way. - And he goes, and he was like, "Ah, I had the weirdest fucking dream." (laughing) - I mean, just the dream. - But also like, that dude has already been let, think about how much. - I'm scripted, I have a dream. How much more legendary is this guy now? Without the, I have a dream, he's, without the, I have a dream, he's just Jesse Jackson. Yeah, hack. I mean, I have, but you need a great speech to be a great man, right? Full school. And that's not him. It's not him. That guy, Abraham Lincoln. That guy. That guy. That guy. That guy. That guy. Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country. By the way, one of the best bits of all time is Gillis on Washington. You've seen that bit. Gillis is a bit of George Washington crossing the Delaware. No. And Gillis went to a, I'm not going to do the bit because he's, do it like Shane Gillis. Do it like Shane Gillis. Come on. I just did a Martin Luther King. Okay. But no, all right. All right. Anyway, so that's my Shane Gillis, but no, he, uh, he went to a, a, like George Washington's childhood home during COVID, like he did during, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, about this bit. Yeah. And he found out that, you know, the wooden teeth thing, it's not entirely accurate. Yeah. It was also donkey teeth and slave teeth in the dentures that Washington wore. And then Gillis goes, ah, don't show me that like don't, yeah. And, uh, and then he, and then he imitates Washington crossing the Delaware with crazy. He's like, no, one of the British were afraid, I got, I got, I got, you know, talking guys like, he's like, give like a 12 foot retarded guy with donkey teeth. That's Lincoln and Washington. Washington. Washington. Lincoln, Lincoln cut down the territory, no, that's Washington cut down the territory. Lincoln got shot. Washington died of tuberculosis. Oh, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I think sickle cell. Lincoln was also the first Jewish president. Lincoln was the first Jewish president. Shot in the temple. Washington, Dallas. What are your cities? What's your website? What's your website? Stanisans.com. Stanisans.com. Can I tell you what upsets me? The guy's at chatterbait. There's something. Where? Where the fuck am I? Nevermind. No, tell me. I want to hear it. Can you know this? If you pull up Google porn in a third window, chatterbait, you have pop-up ads that show up. Sure. And I was showing someone my Google search. And every now and then if I have ever Googled porn usually because I'm having an anxiety attack, I, chatterbait will show up. Good coping mechanism. And the guys at chatterbait ran into me in Vegas and they're like, "Burt, we didn't know you used chatterbait, which is jerking off with strange people." I go, "I don't." And they're like, "Sure. That's what everyone says." And I was like, "No, I really don't." And they're like, "Okay." And I was like, "Wait, you guys have access to the records. You don't see any my credit cards in. I'm sure you got to pay, right?" I don't. I don't have a news outlet. Crazy if you're like, "No, no. It's free." It works on tokens. There's so much free. Why would you? What's the name of your website? To get tickets. StanleySimmons.com. Where are we? We're going all over the place. I'm not going to listen because it's going to be -- Boy, that was a weird detour into chatterbait for a second there, wasn't it? Like we went from like, "What are your tour dates?" Because you must have seen -- You know, chatterbait came up. A little pop up out there. If I have anxiety, I go to porn. So that, I see nothing wrong with that and I bet there's no consequences that will talk to my therapist about that around. Yeah. How does your therapist feel about that? She was confused. She'd support that decision to go there. Anything that's a coping with panic attack. Really? Yeah. So porn's good. No. I don't think she was like, "Talk therapy works better." Yeah. No, hey. Yeah. Yep. Yes. That's what I was thinking. But if your options are Xanax alcohol or Nikewell or porn, it was porn. I would go Xanae even before. You know? I thought Nikewell really. Nikewell's fucking. Yeah. Crazy dreams, man. It slaps. You like when I- You know, I have a Zeke Will. It's not the cold medicine. It's just the sleep one. Why not? Get the cold medicine and knock out a cold if you got one anywhere. Oh, yeah, I forgot. It's cold medicine. It does stuff. It's under under under. It's a whole different thing. November 3rd at the Trubidor. That's my birthday. Come. Happy birthday. Bring the fan. I think I will. November 3rd. I would love to see you guys on my birthday. That's the very last show and we're doing an after party at another place. Okay. Nearby. We'll tell you off camera. September 14th. You got Dallas, Houston, Austin, New Orleans, Birmingham, Nashville, Louisville, Charlotte, Huntington, Washington, Boston, city, winery, October 2nd, New York, again, we've added a show in New York, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Michigan, Indianapolis, St. Louis, is a legit fucking tour. Yeah, almost 30, right? 28. November Salt Lake, Seattle, Portland, Napa, Berkeley, November 1st, in Felton, California, November 3rd, ending at the Trubidor, near me, holiday, at the Trubidor, such a great venue. I know we love it. I've never played there. I've grown up seeing a million shows. I've never played. I've only ever jumped up with somebody there. Can I ask, what's your experience? We should wrap this up. I know we gotta get you out of here, but what like leading into this band, you guys both had separate bands, right? Yeah. We had other projects. Yeah. We just kind of showed up at each other's door. How did this, how did the day it happened? How did it. It's kind of anticlimactic. I mean, we were just hanging out. We're friends. We were kicking it. We're like, let's do a video that'll probably be good for both of our socials and our other projects. And we sang a song in a Garfunkel song because it's something we both love that had nothing to do with either of our projects. And it was crazy because we thought it would do all right. We thought the two of us together would help, but I remember us posting it and checking like 20 minutes later, I'm like, it's like at a million now and then you check like an hour later, like it's at two million now and it just kept going up and up and it's like, oh shit, this is kind of crazy. And a few days later, this was over the holidays, we were talking, it was like, our voices blend really well. You know, like if you can sing, you can sing harmonies, but if you get lucky, I don't know what it is. But like if you get lucky, it's the voices or whatever, they just kind of mesh and create kind of a third new voice thing. Both of us noticed that we're like, maybe we should do a couple of songs together, but even at that point, it was just a song or two, right? We were dicking around. We were like, oh, maybe we'll have a folk side project. I think I texted you that. And you're like, all right. This is like, how cool, whatever. Then we wrote a song. I remember the next morning listening to the demo, the first song we wrote, it was February 3rd of 25. And I remember waking up and being like, shit, this is my favorite song I've ever been involved with. This is so cool. And we were like, let's do more. And we showed Rob Kevala, who's just like an insane legendary producer and discovered Green Day. He produced all our albums. He produced Fleetwood Mac. He produced, I don't know, everybody else. Shine down. Lil Peep. It's like he's so all over the place, but he's amazing. Yeah. And he called me. I sent him this one song because we only had one song and he was like, what the fuck is this? Come to the studio. I'm making this record. It's like, we don't have a record. We have one song. And we were there. He's like, you guys have other bands. But this is serious. Is this the priority? We were both like-- He's like, I'll do this. But only if this is your number one priority, like you better drop everything, basically. And I was like, okay, as of today, it is. Sure. Yeah. Okay. And yeah, my other band was like, yeah, do it. It's got to feel cool. It's got to feel cool to have someone separate from-- He believes in it. To believe in you. Because there's got to be a lot that goes into having parents that are so famous for the thing you also want to do. And we always go like, well, I'm-- will I ever-- I remember someone told me, never name your son after-- never name your son after yourself. Because then he's always trying to live up to your shoes or fill your shoes. Yeah. And try not to even think about that. But it's kind of crazy to then have someone separately go, this is great. And this is what-- I mean, the first time I heard you guys, I was like, oh, fuck you. Like, in a weird way, I was like, well, fuck you. LeBron should go to the fucking-- let's fucking stack a team. What? Jordan's coming back. Like, I don't want to put that weight on you. But like, when I saw you guys together, I was like, oh, fuck yeah. This is what it was supposed to be. Yeah, whatever. I don't mind, whatever. It's kind of cool as shit. And then the first time I heard the first song I heard, I was-- I think it was on probably on TikTok. You were like, this fucking sucks. No, I was like-- Listen to this. No, I was like, this is great. It's really great. And there were all covers. And then listening to your new stuff now, I'm like, oh, this is going to be awesome. It's really awesome. And I say that as a fan of both of you, of your parents and of the music that kind of groomed you. But I think I'm just rockin' Rollin' General. I wanted to say this. I went, you know, everyone says, you know, Hollywood's dying. Movies are dying. And what has happened? Television's dying. And this and music's dying. And everything's getting streamed. And this and that. And then I went to that show last night. And I was like, rockin' Roll is still alive. People still dress like rock stars. Well, not only that, I think they're because of all that news, you just mentioned. I think people are very, very hungry for live in-person experiences. Yes. Because we're sick of-- We're sick of the screen. We're sick of the screen. Yeah. Not the screen connection. And I think it's actually a great time to be doing organic music. Because I think people are like, people want that at the moment. I think that's a wave right now that we're riding. Yeah. So we're lucky. And I think, again, the only thing when you're talking about those expectations, all we can do, and I think anyone in our position should do, is try to earn it in retrospect. Because we can't control our luck when we're grateful, but we're not going to ignore it or pretend it doesn't exist. All we can do is say, all right, I better work hard enough so that it is deserved after the fact. So that's just all we're up to. We're trying to make sure it's actually any good at all. And we work really hard at it. But yeah, the thing that we resent about other, quote unquote, "nepo babies" is when it's clear that they're not doing that. They're riding the easy street wave with no sort of like-- Discipline, and I resent that in anybody. Yeah, just kidding. happens to happen a lot in a specific area, but anyone who's sitting real pretty without putting in work, it's like, that's a bummer to see, especially when someone takes it for granted and thinks so highly of themselves without honing- - They think they deserve it, yeah. - Without the effort. And I think our goal on this tour is, we're gonna, through blood, sweat, and tears show that we've earned this attention. So that's the goal. - I'm excited. If you guys, any of those cities have listed, we're gonna, we should put a, there's a link in the bio. Go see them, go see them live. And I have to say this, and one of the coolest things ever is, go see, go be outdoors. Everyone's on the line. - Fuck yeah, touch grass. - Go go to fucking one of these clubs on tour. Go see it, bring five friends, bring a date. Ask a girl that we work with, man, that not work with. (laughing) - I was so good, I've been doing that. Ask a girl, you have a crush on. If you'd like to go see a show, you have that wagon. - Falling out that wagon. - And fuckies the day. - Yeah, if you haven't been drinking, start drinking. - Start again. - Should I call for the first, no. - Yeah. - Okay. - But no one likes quitters. - The, (laughing) - But thank you guys for doing this. I appreciate it. - You know, it's a huge help. - You love you guys. Anything you ever need me to promote. And by the way, I gotta tell you, if you wanna come back and we'll do the podcast and hang again, and you can play some music, I would love that. - Fuck you, let's do it. - I would love that, I would love that. (upbeat music) (dramatic music)