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Solo Thoughts 18: Welcoming Rough Seas

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Solo Thoughts 18: Welcoming Rough Seas

In this episode of "Solo Thoughts," Dr. Peter McGraw explores the tension between achievement-driven control and the raw experience of being alive. He recounts a friend's emotional turmoil over unrequited love, which cracked open a suppressed emotional life. McGraw argues that many high achievers, including himself, optimize for calm seas—planning, controlling, and flattening emotions to avoid disruption. While Stoicism offers rational tranquility, it treats emotions as obstacles, missing the vitality found in Epicurean, Dionysian, and Tantric traditions that embrace deep feeling as a guide to growth. He introduces "psychological richness" from researcher Aaron Whiskey, where novelty and discomfort—not happiness—define a life worth reading about. Practical advice includes small acts of courage or "misogi" challenges (a 50/50 risk) to build self-efficacy, citing Bandura's research and a 2022 study showing discomfort signals growth. McGraw concludes by inviting listeners to help name this elusive quality—"aliveness," passion, or something else—that separates a merely lived life from one truly felt. The episode urges leaving the harbor of safety to embrace rough seas as the point of the journey, not the obstacle.

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Welcome to Solo, the single person's guide to a remarkable life. Your host, a behavioral scientist and bachelor, talks to leading experts and successful singles about living solo and living well. Travel more, make things, sleep in when you want to. Here's the playbook for the person who is unapologetically unattached. Now please welcome Dr. Peter McGraw. Welcome back to Solo Thoughts 18. Welcoming Rough Seas. A friend came to see me recently. His story inspired me to share an idea I've been tussling with. He text and asked if he could come by my apartment. Sit with that for a moment. No one does that anymore. No one just shows up like in Seinfeld. They schedule the text, they trade voice memos. With this guy, a former elite athlete, now an entrepreneur, someone who has accomplished extraordinary things through discipline and willpower, needed to sit across from another person and talk. Oh yeah, something important was happening. He came over and we talked for two hours, two hours, two men sitting in a living room talking about feelings. He'd fallen in love and the woman wasn't quite reciprocating. She was interested, leaning in, then leaning out, warm one day, uncertain the next. And my friend, who was used to setting goals and executing, who wins when he puts his mind to something, was completely off balance. He was swinging between ecstasy and anticipated heartbreak. He came to me to figure out how to handle the situation, how to succeed in love and how to cope with heartbreak. He was honest and vulnerable, it was profound and beautiful. I listened to him. Of course I was going to talk coping tactics and angles. But first I said, you're alive right now. More alive than you've been in years. He responded, you're right. I used to be like this, but I've pushed all these emotions down over the years. For most of his adult life, like many high achieving people, he had been trying to find calm water to sail. He planned his route, he controlled his conditions, and he was rewarded handsomely for it. Trophies, books, businesses, accolades. The calm seas, as the saying goes, never made a skilled sailor. More importantly, and this is the part that gets overlooked, calm seas are boring. Yes, you can be successful on calm seas. But can you be alive? My friend had turned himself into a good stoic. He keeps the lows at day, but also the highs. And that along comes this woman, a squall, then might be a storm. The seas are rough, the wind is blowing, and it's blowing hard. The boat's rocking, it might capsize. He may need to repair his heart, or this whole thing might turn into a giant gust of wind that takes him, them, somewhere thrilling. He can't know. I certainly don't know. And that not knowing, that's the thing. That's what makes him you me alive. Now if you're a regular listener, you know I've been circulating this idea for a while. In solo thoughts 13, every day is a big day. I talked about the difference between merely living and being alive, all caps. I discussed the difference between lifespan and health span, but there's something I've been calling a lifespan. Corny, I know. But think about it. How much of the time that you are on this planet are you actually really here for? Not just breathing, not just executing your to-do list, but present, engaged, moved. In the solo book I put forward what I call the foundation flourish model of well-being. The foundation is your health, sleep, nutrition, movement. Get that right and you have the hull of the boat. It keeps you upright and turbulent waters. The flourish is a sale where you catch wind, meaning achievement, engagement, pleasure. But I've come to think there's something missing from the model, or at least something that deserves its own emphasis. And that's passion, aliveness, the willingness to feel the full range of what human life has to offer. I hope you see where I'm going with this. Because here's what I've noticed in myself, and a lot of people I talk to, we get very good at building foundations. We optimize, we achieve, we plan, and in the process we flatten out our emotional lives into something manageable, safe, smooth waters. Let me confess something. I spent much of my life this way. A planner, a controller, I carefully managed my environment to avoid disruptions. To avoid the storms you might say, so that I could produce, write papers, write books, make podcasts, produce, produce. My identity as peaked, the achiever, depended on keeping conditions calm. My friend Darwin said to me, "You're the only person I know who should probably sit back and consume more." That hit me. I took it to heart. I've since doubled my reading, and I'm loving it. But the observation went deeper than reading. What he was really saying was, "You're so busy creating output that you've stopped taking in life. You've stopped experiencing." It came to a head about a year ago. I was in Budapest. It's a beautiful city. I walked a lot. I sat in century old mineral pools, and I thought. I reflected. I realized that my comfort and planning were helping me to achieve. Yes. But they were getting in the way of passion, of improvisation, of the kind of discomfort that leads to growth. My life had become so routinized, so ritualized that it was becoming, "I'll just say it, boring. I was living. I was not alive." I'm getting better at it, but that to-do list over there is so tempting. My morning ritual has become a compulsion. I've always to go. And while I don't envy the rollercoaster my friend is on, I've certainly been there. He has reminded me of the fitful shift I'm undergoing. So how do we all get here? I think part of the answer is philosophical. Stoicism is having a moment, and I understand why. In a chaotic world, the idea that you can train yourself to remain calm and rational is deeply appealing. Marcus Aurelius, Sennaka, and others, their advice is practical and often wise. Before you can control, don't be enslaved by your emotions. Indoor. But here's what I think Stoicism gets wrong, or at least incomplete. The Stoic's treat emotions as diseases of the soul. Things to be managed, suppressed, overcome. Anger, grief, desire, even excessive joy. Pathological. The idea was a kind of rational tranquility. A calm sea. And ambitious people love this, gives philosophical cover to something we already are socialized to do. Keep your feelings at bay while you execute. Don't let the emotions in, stay in control. But there's an alternative tradition that I think deserves more air time, and it begins with the Epicurians. Now most people here Epicurian, and they think indulgence, hedonism. Well, that's a character. The real Epicurus was practically aesthetic. But here's what he got right that the Stoic's didn't. Epicurus believed that emotions, pleasure, and pain are the fundamental guides to a good life, or as I say, a remarkable life. Not obstacles, guides. And here's the kicker, the ancient biographer Diogeny's Latterius. They're atarius. I think I'm saying that right. In any case, he recorded that the Epicurian wise person will experience passions more deeply than other people, and that this depth of feeling is no hindrance to wisdom. Get it? The wise person feels more, not less. Nietzsche picked up on this thread 2,000 years later, with his famous distinction between Apollonian and Dioenacian. Apollo, the god of order, reason structure, com seas, Dioenasis, the god of wine, ecstasy, the god of chaos, ruffsees. Nietzsche argued that since scarleties, western culture has been dangerously biased towards Apollonian, too much order, too much rationality, and it comes at the cost of vitality of art of life itself. Nietzsche believed, and I agree with him, you need both, the structure and the wild. But most of us, and certainly most of western civilization, has over-indexed on control. As I find some resonance in the tantric tradition, and I don't mean what most westerners think when they hear that word, you know what I mean? its philosophical core, Tantra teaches that every experience including discomfort, including desire, including uncertainty is a doorway, not something to transcend or suppress, but something to move through with awareness. Where the stoic say, "Rise above your feelings," the tantric practitioner says, "Go deeper into them. Feel everything." The body is not an obstacle to wisdom, it's the vehicle. These three traditions, Epicurean, Dianasian, tantric share a common insight that I think is radical. The full range of human emotion is not a problem to be solved, it is the experience of being alive, of being passionate. Now, I'm not romanticizing recklessness, you still need a good boat, you still need skills, that's your foundation, but once you have it, and many of you do, the question is, are you willing to leave the harbor? 'Cause there really are only three kinds of people, those who stay on land and avoid the water entirely, safe but going nowhere. The stoic sailors who white-knuckle through every storm, waiting for it to pass, and the passionate sailors. The ones who understand that rough water is not the obstacle, it's the point of the journey, the spray on your face, the fear in your gut and the thrill running alongside it. That's where aliveness lives. I think about the solo episode I taped on psychological richness with Aaron Whiskey. A psychologically rich life is one filled with novelty, complexity, and perspective-changing experiences. It's not always pleasant, in fact, it's often uncomfortable, but it's interesting, it's the life you'd wanna read about if it were a novel. Back to my friend, sitting in my apartment with his heart exposed, was having a psychologically rich experience. He was not happy in that moment, he was not a piece, but he was present, more present, more there than he'd been in years. The situation with this woman had cracked open something in him that his discipline and success had kept sealed. I don't know which way things will break for him, longstanding love or horrible heartbreak. Neither does he, but he's writing more profoundly than he has in years. He's not merely living anymore, and I'm happy for him, and the world around him is better off for it. I recognized this 'cause I had my own version of it in Budapest, and in my psilocybin trips, which are well-documented on the solar podcast, and in the slow, sometimes painful transition from Pete to Peter that I've been narrating across the show for years. Every time I've grown, truly grown, it wasn't because the conditions were calm, it's because they were rough. So here's what I wanna leave you with. If you've built a good foundation, your health is solid, your finances are stable, your friendships are strong, and you still feel like something's missing, I want to suggest that what might be missing is intensity and emotional range, the willingness to be moved, to feel not just contentment, but also longing, and excitement, and nervousness, and all. No, you don't need to fall in love, or take mushrooms or move to Budapest. You can start small. Have the conversation you've been avoiding, start the creative project, the scare shoe, travel without an itinerary. Say yes to the thing that makes your stomach flip, or do what my friend did, show up at someone's door because the feeling was too big to fit inside a text message. If you wanna go bigger, try a misoggy, or misoggy, I don't know how it's pronounced. The word comes from a Japanese shinto purification ritual, standing under freezing water to cleanse body and spirit. Marcus Elliott, a Harvard-Train Sports Scientist, adapted it into something different. Once a year, take on a challenge so hard, you have a genuine 50/50 chance of failing. Michael Easter popularized the idea in his book, The Comfort Crisis. Not reckless, but genuinely uncertain. It should be quirky, personal, and inward facing. You don't post about it on social media. For example, Marcus Elliott, an NBA sharpshooter, Kyle Corver, carried an 85 pound boulder, five kilometers along the ocean floor, taking turns diving down, grabbing the rock, moving it as far as they could, surfacing for air, and doing it again, over and over again, for five hours. In another challenge, they literally chased and chose rough seas, paddle boarding 25 miles across open water from the Channel Islands to Santa Barbara, with a crosswind that could have blown them out to sea. Easter himself spent 33 days in a laskin' backcountry, no cell service, no schedule, just extreme weather, bears, and boredom. The point isn't the achievement, it's the encounter with yourself when the outcome isn't guaranteed. As Elliott puts it, you always think your edge is close, and it's almost always further out than you believed. And there's science behind this, by the way. Albert Bendoor's research on self-efficacy found that the single most powerful way to build belief in yourself is what he calls mastery experiences, taking on hard things and persisting through them. Not easy wins, hard ones. And he found that the optimal level of confidence is actually slightly above your actual ability, just to make you reach. I talk about living on your edge. As you can see, there's research on this. Too much confidence in you coast, too little, and you don't try, that sweet spot. Well, it's basically 50/50. Sound familiar? And a 2022 study by Wolley and Fishbok, published in Psychological Science. It found something even more interesting. People who are told to seek discomfort, not just try to learn, they persisted longer, took more risks, and made more progress. The discomfort wasn't the cost of growth. It was the signal that growth was happening. The Stoics taught us to endure the storm. The Epicureans, Nietzsche, and the Tantric tradition teaches us something harder, and I think more important to want the storm. Not because suffering is good, but because feeling deeply is what it means to be alive. And a life without rough seas is not a peaceful life. It's a small one. Every day is a big day, but some days, the one when the winds pick up and the boat starts rocking, those days are bigger. I'll close with a confession in a request. I don't know what to call this thing I'm talking about. I've been using the word "aliveness," but I'm not sure that's right. Is it passion, psychological richness, vitality, intensity, or something else entirely? I've been wrestling with the language across multiple episodes now, and still haven't landed on it. So I'm asking you, if you haven't joined, join the solo community at pewtermograw.org/solo, and tell me, what do you call this thing? This quality of this separates a life that has merely lived from one that is truly felt. I want your help naming it, because once we name it, we can chase it. Thanks for listening. Hope you enjoyed this solo thoughts episode. Cheers.

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. A friend's emotional crisis over uncertain love reveals how high achievers suppress feelings for control, trading aliveness for calm seas.
  2. The "Foundation-Flourish" model of well-being is incomplete; missing "aliveness"—the willingness to feel the full range of human emotion.
  3. Stoicism's suppression of emotions is critiqued; alternative traditions (Epicurean, Dionysian, Tantric) embrace deep feeling as a guide to a remarkable life.
  4. Psychological richness involves novelty, complexity, and discomfort; it's not always pleasant but is the essence of being alive.
  5. Practical steps include small risks (hard conversations, creative projects) or "misogi" challenges (50/50 success rate) to build self-efficacy through discomfort.
  6. The speaker seeks community input to name this quality—the difference between merely living and truly feeling alive.

Summary:

In this episode of "Solo Thoughts," Dr. Peter McGraw explores the tension between achievement-driven control and the raw experience of being alive. He recounts a friend's emotional turmoil over unrequited love, which cracked open a suppressed emotional life.

McGraw argues that many high achievers, including himself, optimize for calm seas—planning, controlling, and flattening emotions to avoid disruption. While Stoicism offers rational tranquility, it treats emotions as obstacles, missing the vitality found in Epicurean, Dionysian, and Tantric traditions that embrace deep feeling as a guide to growth. He introduces "psychological richness" from researcher Aaron Whiskey, where novelty and discomfort—not happiness—define a life worth reading about.

Practical advice includes small acts of courage or "misogi" challenges (a 50/50 risk) to build self-efficacy, citing Bandura's research and a 2022 study showing discomfort signals growth. McGraw concludes by inviting listeners to help name this elusive quality—"aliveness," passion, or something else—that separates a merely lived life from one truly felt. The episode urges leaving the harbor of safety to embrace rough seas as the point of the journey, not the obstacle.

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The episode explores the concept of 'aliveness'—the difference between merely living and truly feeling alive—and argues that embracing discomfort, uncertainty, and a full range of emotions is essential for a remarkable life.

Stoicism treats emotions as obstacles to be suppressed for rational tranquility, while Epicureanism views emotions as guides to a good life, with the wise person feeling passions more deeply.

The speaker suggests that the model is missing an emphasis on passion and aliveness—the willingness to feel the full range of human emotions, beyond just health, achievement, and pleasure.

A misogi is a challenging, uncertain task with a 50/50 chance of failure, adapted from a Japanese purification ritual, designed to foster self-growth and encounter with oneself.

A 2022 study found that people who seek discomfort persist longer, take more risks, and make more progress, suggesting discomfort signals growth rather than being a cost.

Start small by having avoided conversations, starting a scary creative project, traveling without an itinerary, or saying yes to something that makes your stomach flip.

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