The podcast host begins by reflecting on a calendar quote about the calming effects of water, linking it to evolutionary psychology. He explains that after just two minutes near water, blood pressure and heart rate drop because, ancestrally, water meant hydration and safety. Similarly, background noise aids sleep because total silence in prehistoric times could indicate predators or storms. He applies this reasoning to other comforts, like sleeping on your stomach to protect vital organs, and being outside for natural, unpredictable patterns that calm the brain. He also touches on parenting guilt, noting that historically, children were often cared for by elders while parents hunted or gathered.
The main segment covers a “Tell Me Something Good” grab bag. He celebrates birthdays, his first kiss anniversary with Kendall in Paris, and his daughter winning a sportsmanship award at T-ball. The weather forecast shows a beautiful May week, and he’s excited for Bloomsday and the Marmot Race. His Mariners are back to .500 after a poor start.
In “I Owe You One,” he discusses a phone call with a therapist who embodied a rigid, regimented style he dislikes. He contrasts this with his own clinic’s laid-back, clubhouse approach, which he adopted after being turned down by a pretentious internship. He’s grateful for that path, as it has led to success and low staff turnover.
Finally, in “Sean’s What Are You Into,” he shares his latest photography learning method: joining a Facebook critique group where beginners post photos and ask for feedback. This mirrors his efficient OT board study technique of reviewing correct answers directly, rather than guessing.
(upbeat music) - Hi again everybody, welcome back, Miles Paph Cast. The flagship podcast of Primitive Comparisons. I have this desktop calendar, like one of the little rib-off calendars that kind of got me. And it's from an author that I like, Adam Grant. And the one that is today says, "The best place to relax is near water." After just two minutes of viewing water outdoors, blood pressure and heart rate drop, it's more calming to look at a lake, pool or stream than grass. Beaches are popular for a reason, wider bodies of water bring more tranquility. Now I remember in a class once, they talked about how obviously a lot of, there's been, how do I phrase this best? There's been 500 or so generations of humans. And really like the life that we know it, even going back to just like the invention of TV, that's been all of five, six generations. I mean, barely a hundred years. So it's so easy to think that like how life is now is, you know, it's changing genetics and people are spawn accordingly. It's so different because people were locked in one way for so long. So when I learn about this stuff, I always think like, ooh, there's gotta be like some reason, like when we were running away from saber-to-tigers or whatever it may be, like there's a purpose for it. If that means any sense of law, I don't feel like explained that at all. But in this case, I would imagine like being near waters on some level, deepen your bodies, really calming, 'cause you're near a sure source of hydration. Like if you need one thing to live, it's water. And if you're by water on some level, like deepen your nervous system, like that's really calming and it calms your body down because of it. I've always thought like for sleep too, like I love having like background noise. It's sleeping in a spot where there's zero noise at all is so hard for me and so when nervous, and I've always thought like that's probably because, you know, back in the day, like when we were running from saber-to-tigers or whatever it may be, like if it goes dead quiet, that means either A, like your fire's gone out and you're gonna get cold and freeze to death. B, like if you're falling asleep and you're like a, obviously you're not here as stream because you have that constant babble of a brook or the ocean, again for hydration purposes. If you don't have any sound, like there could be like a storm coming because all the birds and the cricket stop or whatever it may be, or like maybe there's a predator coming. Like there's a reason why background noise is so calming for sleep. Or like sleeping on your stomach. When you sleep on your stomach, it's the single most like deep effective way of getting the most restful sleep. Probably because you're covering up the most like valuable, delicate, fragile part of your body. Like if you're laying on your stomach, the, the, the, what we keep coming back to the saber-to-tiger, gonna have a harder time like mulling you and your guts out because you're back spacing towards it. It's just, I always like, I always think back. Like if it's really calming and comforting, there's probably some really deep natural reason for it because human meats have been around for so long and this stuff was, you know, up until just several generations ago, a drop in the, drop in the bucket. So important. Another one, like just being outside, obviously being outside is gonna be almost like calming and regulating places with all like the natural patterns because like when you're in a built environment, like your brain finds everything predictable, not as calming, being outside. That's, that's all pretty, pretty obvious. And then one that I've always thought of too is like, being home with my kids. Like there's, there's, I would love to spend more time with them. Like it's, it's crazy that I only see them for a couple hours a day, you know, like right in the mornings, in the evenings, I get all that time and I'm at work the rest of the time and it's like, oh, that seems like I'm a bad parent. But if you dial it back and you really go back in time, like that was never, it's never been in deep human history where the parents have had soul, for lack of a better word, like custody of their kids. Like back in the day, you know, the younger, more fit parents probably off hunting or gathering berries or fixing things and the kids are probably, you know, not with their parents, they're probably with like a group of elders or whatever it may be, you know, like the, the set people in the tribe watching the kids and that's developmentally appropriate. I don't know, that's where my mind always goes. I don't know if any of that's true. It's all kind of theory based off what I've learned and things that kind of make sense. But this little thing made me think of all that. Anyways, today on the show, it's telling me something good. I got a grab bag of things. I couldn't narrow down just one. So it's a whole bunch of like little things for the tell me something good. We got to talk about a fork in the road and professional wise that I feel like I went down and I very much looked down on it for the IOU one. And then Sean's went into a couple, a couple, a new way that I'm learning about something I love. But tell me something good. Tell me something good. Kind of a grab big thing. First off, happy birthday's all around. Happy birthday to Lori, to Kendall's mom, to the girls, to the girls Gigi for all that she does. Thank you for all that, to Alexa, and to Sean, both their birthdays, as we record this on April 30th, their birthday's are today. So happy birthday, Alexa, happy birthday. Sean, bigger days be filled with everything great 'cause you guys are awesome. Also today on April 30th is Kendall and I's first kiss anniversary, which I, so mad at myself. I got our flowers a couple days ago 'cause I knew I wouldn't have time today. And it's been great because for whatever reason, like everybody at work has noticed these flowers. Like one of the people who like drives by my window, they're my window, they drew by it and they brought it up like in front of a ton of people. I'm like, oh yeah, it's our first kiss. And everyone thinks it's so sweet. So I, I looked really great at work lately. But I was supposed to take him home last night and Kendall came and spent some time where I work because she had time to kill. So I hit him and because I hit him, I didn't think to take him home. So I didn't give, I wasn't able to give him to her this morning, which is just crazy. But I remember it 'cause shout out, "Dad, dad always get it to mom." And that's what like made me think of it. That's what left the impression on me. So I was trying to remember that the first kiss helps. It helps that was in Paris and we have a picture of it so I can just go find the timestamp. I don't need that, but that makes it a lot easier. It wasn't just like a random situation. It makes it a little bit easier. But anyways, first kiss to Kendall in Paris. Next to the Apple Tower, I was told to, even though it was a plan all along, she kind of ruined it. She should've done it Disneyland yesterday several years ago, but that didn't happen either when it was raining or lasting fireworks. Anyways, there's that last night at T-Ball, ME1, the Sportsmanship Award. Every time after their games, like they all get together and they decide which person on the team earns this little pin for the Sportsmanship Award. And ME1 yesterday. And part of that might have been because she was playing first base. Like they always switched positions like every time they go to the outfield. And she was playing first base. And I think every time a kid got on first and she was talking to him. Like she could've been paying attention like to have people throw the ball to her when the ball was hit, but nope, she was facing the kid and talking to him. And she went to Sportsmanship Award out of it, which is cool. Also, if you look at the forecast right now, like I had it pulled up on my phone, it is here. Let me get it updated real quick now. This is at noon on Thursday, technically for Spokane. It's like a beautiful May forecast. The type that you always hope to get and I feel like we never necessarily do. Oh my gosh, you're gonna load? Hang on, I'm gonna pull up my computer, I guess. Oh, such lame podcasting, hang on. Because it was a beautiful site. Oh, here we go. 71, 74, 76, 77, 78, 77, 80, 78, 73, 72. For the next 10 days, sunshine every single day except for possibly Saturday. That's as good as it gets. Man, going into May, if you have that kind of weather, you've done it. 'Cause I think back on so many times that we would finish up like college, WSU, second week of May and we go start working on the farm and we'd be like either cleaning out the, I think of the name right now. I never think of names on the spot. I know me. Cleaning out like the drain pipes, like using like a rotor ruder-cut thing and like drilling into there and like pulling all the stuff out that's been caught up because it's trying to drain out the different draws or cleaning out grain bins the long time ago. It's just, I always remember being cold and rainy. And it's like, man, it's May, like right at school. What is happening? So the fact that we've got literally the lowest temperature being what, I guess 72 10 days from now, but we're averaging 77, 78 for the first week of May. And that is fantastic. I'll take that. That is telling me something good at the perfect side of it. This weekend, Bloomsday. I haven't done that in 11 years doing that. And then we also got Emmy signed up for the Marmot Race on Saturday, which is not junior Bloomsday, but it's like Bloomsday for the super young kids. And I remember last year we like, I wished we'd signed it up. It fills up right away, but it'll be cool. I think they run a mile and then they get, you know, like a medal and everything. And that'll be cool. That's on Saturday, Bloomsday on Sunday. Ah, what else? Everybody's not good wood right now. Everybody's healthy at our house. It has been a wild month of ear infections and throwing up and RSV, but everybody's been healthy for a week. Everybody's on the right track. That is fantastic. And then the Mariners. Mariners have won five out of the last six games. They're now at 500 again, as I record this on Thursday at noon. And they are in the month of May at a 500 record, which is in May. Ended in month of April at a 500 record, which is insane because of how poorly that season started. I mean, they've had to play so well to make up so much ground. They're a half game out of the division. And if you'd told me that two weeks ago, when the sky was falling, when our two, three and four hitters, Cal and Julio and Naylor were doing zip, this is fantastic. I talk about turnaround, like we're back in it. You never really out of it, but it sucks when they just can't pull it together, start the season off, but hey, we're back. We're right there. And it's, it's, it's, it's finally flipped. Everything's looking good. And tomorrow's Mariners game. It's my favorite. I usually don't watch games on TV, but the tomorrow's game is on Apple TV, which is my favorite, because they have the single best sports feature that should be everywhere for whatever reason. It's not. But you can change the audio feed to a radio broadcast that is perfectly lined up every single time. Like this is something I tend to do, like if I do watch like play of,
games on TV, I'll pause it, and then you try and line up the radio feed just right so you got the two synced together. But the fact that Apple TV just allows you just to go on and click local TV broadcast is as good as it gets. Because man, I love Aaron Goldsmith, but I feel like he's so based on TV because the play by play on TV is so much more, radio is just so much more nuanced, and it's so much, I've covered this a thousand times. It's so much better. So the fact that you can kind of sync those two up and it's broadcast and I hear a Brit right, so it looks a lot prettier, it's awesome. And it only happens a couple of times a year, but tomorrow on Friday, it's gonna make a lot of people mad because they wanna watch it on the stuff they paid for, but hey, for me, I am very selfishly excited about it. All right, so many good things. I owe you one. (upbeat music) ♪ You know who you are ♪ ♪ Yeah, who you are ♪ This was a product of yesterday. Yesterday I had a student who I had last year. He's like, he wanted me to be like a referral source. So I'm like, yeah, of course. And I had somebody call me and ask about it, essentially. And how do I describe this? Like I feel like in OT, not only backup. When I have students come to our clinic, I always, for whatever reason, feel like I have to almost like defend our style. Because I feel like there's two distinct styles that I've kind of noticed in therapy. One of them is where you are very much, very much like a therapist or like a teacher almost. Like where the kids come back and it's very regimented. All right, you have to work on blanks. We're in a sit down table, we're in a work on blank, and then we're gonna go and do this, and then we're gonna go to this. What we do here is like much more of like a clubhouse, hangout style. Yeah, we get to work done, but you also get a little bit of free time at the beginning. And you're gonna earn it at the end. And it's much more chill and laid back. So A, we wanna play a place where like the kids wanna come. And they look forward to it. So it's cool and hip and chill. And that's not always the case. Again, there's much more regimented places. And I feel like they would be at Horde perhaps, like if they saw like the style that we've used. And you know, I've always wondered about it, but we've got a lot of success. We've had a ton of success. And people like it and parents like it. I feel like it's better for the kids. It's better for the staff. Our turnover has not been crazy by any means. We've had a very, very good retention rate, which is not always the case in therapy. Every time we have students, they wanna come back. They were like their favorite spot for that from students, as well as their professors that sent them to us. Like we always get great grades as far as that stuff goes. But as I did this referral and I talked to the lady, I'm like, you are the holder opposite. And what I'm so glad that I didn't go down that route, 'cause I didn't realize there was choices. Because she was, she's one of the people that you just talked to her. And she just, it seemed like she just wanted to be mad. Like she, she called about this student and like I told him he was great. And like if we had had a spot for him, I would have hired him on the spot. He was fantastic. And she had like this weird idea of like she, she didn't like him and she was trying to like defend that idea. And it's like, look, I just had him as a student and he was fantastic. Like what, it just, it was so weird. I looked him up and I, I feel like I know that personality type a little bit as far as like therapists goes and I get it. I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't get it at all. 'Cause I know the type and it's the type that I don't jive with or don't vibe with in the slightest. But I was thinking back because I almost, when I had my field work, field work is like an internship that you do right after you finish like the actual like school classroom type project or the type portion of your work, like an internship. And I was supposed to go to one place and I went there and I interviewed and which is weird. You don't usually interview for this kind of stuff. Like it's, it was odd. And I remember they turned me down because they thought, again, this is a pediatric place. They thought it was too specialized for someone who was gonna have their first field work rotation there. Which, it is just oozes pretendousness which drives me nuts because it's, it's, pediatrics, I'm gonna be the first to admit, what we do is not wildly difficult. You're, you're working with kids. Yeah, you have to know some stuff, but it's not, it is not rocket science by any means. And the fact that that, that was like the reasoning for it's like, okay fine and I went somewhere else in the place. So that, and that was the place that I feel like is the, it's much more regimented, it's strict, it's not as enjoyable. I've heard a lot of things from staff there and it's not, it's not here. I can tell you that, it's black and white and we're the color. Because I went then to a different place to the achieve center and they had the approach that I feel like I've tried to emulate where I'm at now, like the culture and the more of the laid back vibes and hey, like this is a fun place, come and hang out and we're gonna work on some stuff and it's gonna be great and we're gonna talk to the parents and do everything we need to do. And that's the style that I've emulated and it's, again, I always feel like I have to defend that now because there is the people that would probably think that what we do is wild, but I mean, talking to her, it just made me grateful that I went down a different route and I saw that it's cool and it's fine to do it this different way and it works for us and we've had a lot of success with it and, ooh, it makes me grateful 'cause I don't think I'd nearly enjoy this job as much as I would if that was how things, if I felt like things had to be run and hey, I couldn't stop talking about it. She was just, man, she was such a, such a weird, it was a weird, weird conversation and a weird interaction that, hey, is what is? All right, last but not least, Sean's what are you into? - All right, listeners, it's time for hidden passions, wild hobbies and that one thing they didn't know miles was obsessed with. Buckle up, it's time for Sean's, what are you into? - And I got to get out of here, I got to have a patient coming up. I've, I've tried to learn photography, obviously I've documented this on the podcast and I went through a phase where I was trying to like read stuff about like you'd Google like composition or you'd Google lighting and you kind of read these different articles about it. Now that's one way of learning things. And then I started watching you in two videos, different like tutorials and such, which has been helpful. Like I've loved that, I've watched, there was one time where I watched a two and a half hour YouTube video broken up over time of a guy editing like an entire wedding batch of photos, hundreds of photos, I've watched the entire thing and that was helpful too because you see like, oh, he changed this because of that and it's so weird but it was really helpful. But what I'm doing now is, it's funny 'cause it's from Facebook and I, not a fan of Facebook, it's not my scene anymore. I miss what it was, that's the whole point of this podcast. It's not that anymore, so I don't usually use it. But I'll go on my computer and I'll look up, there's this group, it's like a beginner, I should have looked at the name of like photography for beginners group where people will post their pictures and they'll ask for like critique of them. Like ask for help, like what could I do? What could I change? How could I get better? And that's how I feel like I learned best because when I was studying for boards for OT, like I would do like the study program and they'd have like these quizzes that you could like practice quizzes, practice tests. I'd go through and I'd get the entire, I'd just click A for all of them. I'd get them all wrong on purpose because it seems like a waste of time to try and guess through some of these things. And then I would just like look at all the answers and I'd read the question and I'd read the right answer and that to me was really, really helpful. Saved a ton of time, I could get right to the fact, and understand like the purpose behind the questions. So having this, like seeing other people's photos and then seeing other people's critiques, I feel like it's very similar. And it's been really helpful to the point where I can now like recognize, oh, somebody's gonna mention A, B and C. And sure enough, like that's what gets mentioned. Like, oh, the, your subject isn't well defined enough or the lighting's wrong or it's too a cool of a picture or you know, too cool to warm or there's too busy of a background. All these like little things that kind of come up. It's like, oh, that makes sense. Like I feel like I'm learning kind of from a different approach and that that's been awesome. It's been really helpful and it's been kind of a cool different way of doing it and you also get some cool ideas for pictures and different creativity based things. But then you also get the keyboard warriors out there. Like the people that, like there's some things that get said, it's just like wild. Like you never say to a person's face, but because it's Facebook, because you know, in social media and general, the internet in general that matter and you can just type and say whatever you want. Like it's like you see some things where people are like really working hard to like give these pictures good and somebody else will come on and say like you should just sell your camera and all your stuff because this is not your deal. And in some of it's funny, some of it's like, oh, that's awkward. And you get to the point where a lot of people are like, please be kind on their posts and whether or not that actually happens is always up in the air. But it's been a cool way of learning and I've been into that. Like it's been fun, like to look at all these different pictures and like go through them, like, oh, I bet somebody's gonna mention this and they could fix that and I feel like I'm actually learning something, which is cool. I feel like I try and get better each time I could do like a big set of pictures, whether that's from a a T-ball game or from a birthday party or from Christmas, whatever it may be. And it's cool, 'cause I look back and I'm like, oh man, I've gotten better at recognizing how to use a mask and sharpening and all this stuff. And I'll speak cool. That's been, it's been helped before me lately. All right, I appreciate y'all listening. Thank you all so much for listening every single time. This is episode 106, I think. It's just, it's crazy. I appreciate y'all's time coming up. I mean, Gabby's sound bite. There might be one of each and there might be a little bit longer. I have some and I gotta figure out what I'm gonna put in there. But that's coming up as we fade to black. Thank y'all and enjoy the sunshine and have a great week. Bye. (upbeat music) Gabby, how old are you? Two. What's your favorite color? Pink. What's your favorite animal? Cheetah. Achita. Yeah. What is your favorite food? My nose. Nudos. What's your name? Gabby Pat. What's your sister's name? Gabby Pat. Mm-hmm. What? What does Miss Dana say? Oh my, oh my love, my pie. My love, my love, my love. Boo, boo, pie. I try. Do you like watching princess movies? Show. You like watching shows? Do you like Minnie Mouse? Yeah. What's your favorite princess? Show. Moana. Or Mirabelle. Yeah.
Podcast Summary
Key Points:
Being near water (lakes, streams, oceans) quickly lowers blood pressure and heart rate, likely due to ancient survival associations with hydration and safety.
Background noise (like a babbling brook) is calming for sleep because total silence in ancestral times could signal danger (e.g., a predator or storm).
The speaker’s therapy approach is a relaxed, “clubhouse” style where kids feel welcome and enjoy coming, contrasting with more regimented, strict therapy methods.
A recent referral conversation made the speaker grateful for choosing this laid-back style, as it leads to better outcomes for kids, staff retention, and student feedback.
The speaker learns photography best by seeing others’ photos and critiques in a Facebook group, similar to how they studied for OT boards by reviewing answers directly.
Summary:
The podcast host begins by reflecting on a calendar quote about the calming effects of water, linking it to evolutionary psychology. He explains that after just two minutes near water, blood pressure and heart rate drop because, ancestrally, water meant hydration and safety. Similarly, background noise aids sleep because total silence in prehistoric times could indicate predators or storms. He applies this reasoning to other comforts, like sleeping on your stomach to protect vital organs, and being outside for natural, unpredictable patterns that calm the brain. He also touches on parenting guilt, noting that historically, children were often cared for by elders while parents hunted or gathered.
The main segment covers a “Tell Me Something Good” grab bag. He celebrates birthdays, his first kiss anniversary with Kendall in Paris, and his daughter winning a sportsmanship award at T-ball. The weather forecast shows a beautiful May week, and he’s excited for Bloomsday and the Marmot Race. His Mariners are back to .500 after a poor start.
In “I Owe You One,” he discusses a phone call with a therapist who embodied a rigid, regimented style he dislikes. He contrasts this with his own clinic’s laid-back, clubhouse approach, which he adopted after being turned down by a pretentious internship. He’s grateful for that path, as it has led to success and low staff turnover.
Finally, in “Sean’s What Are You Into,” he shares his latest photography learning method: joining a Facebook critique group where beginners post photos and ask for feedback. This mirrors his efficient OT board study technique of reviewing correct answers directly, rather than guessing.
FAQs
It lowers blood pressure and heart rate after just two minutes, likely because water is a sure source of hydration, calming the nervous system.
Dead silence might signal danger like a predator or storm, while constant sounds like a brook or ocean are calming because they indicate safety.
It protects your most vulnerable organs, making it harder for predators to attack you, a deep evolutionary instinct.
Natural patterns are less predictable and more regulating for the brain, while built environments feel too predictable and less calming.
Yes, historically parents often hunted or gathered while elders cared for children, so limited direct custody is developmentally appropriate.
It's a laid-back, hangout-style approach where kids earn free time and feel excited to come, contrasting with more regimented, teacher-like therapy.
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