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Snatch the Biscuits with The Cool Kids

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Snatch the Biscuits with The Cool Kids

The podcast features a heartfelt conversation between longtime fans and artists about the evolution of music, listening habits, and creative expression. The guests reflect on how early rap culture, particularly through groups like "y'all," introduced them to a raw, authentic style rooted in real-life experiences and vivid storytelling. They emphasize the value of physical media—vinyl, CDs, and tapes—as a return to tangible, immersive music that fosters deeper connection. The discussion explores how streaming has disrupted music consumption, reducing emotional engagement and turning listening into passive, algorithm-driven habits. The artists argue that true artistry thrives in authenticity, as seen in Prodigy’s use of deep-cut slang and Bodie James’ storytelling that feels like a lived reality. They critique the music industry’s outdated structures, like remix deals and label demands, which often prioritize commercialism over artistic integrity. The conversation also highlights how music has become a form of cultural storytelling, where fans now seek real narratives over manufactured content. Ultimately, the hosts advocate for a return to meaningful, personal listening—where music is lived with, not just scrolled through—emphasizing that the best art emerges from authenticity, lived experience, and human connection.

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Y'all what the fuck is up welcome to my favorite lyrics podcast where we talk about music lyrics except for when we talk about other stuff and today we've got some very special guests uh they honestly i didn't i'm just meeting y'all y'all one of my favorite groups when i was coming up when i was in high school i remember i remember seeing y'all's shit on myspace for the first time and really was like yeah this is for me the space man you feel me yeah that was where it all started you feel me welcome to the show the cool kids thank you yeah yeah i appreciate y'all mikey chuck thanks for having us man yeah yeah i appreciate y'all pulling up man how y'all uh how's your time been in new york so far it's been good man just been uh working working uh gone fishing re-release you know um mixtape that we made in about 2009 with don cannon we decided to bring it back in physical form put it on dsps now make vinyls cds tapes and the whole nine so we've just been out here uh you know working that release and doing some promo we did some uh signings and stuff at barnes and noble yeah you know uh i had a couple other interviews and podcasts to hit so you know just grinding it out just been running around wait i'm trying to see i'm trying to look back through going fishing because i like i specifically remember when this one came out because it was like yeah it was like in the spring i remember this yeah man this was the hammer bros specifically i remember the production on that being like i don't think i've ever heard anything like this before that was you really you know what i'm saying i just want to give you all flowers you know thank you yeah appreciate it you know what i'm saying i really feel like uh you you brought something that i had never really heard of before you know what i'm saying y'all really had jaws on style you had your own flavor you know and i really you know i'm a big appreciator thank you man you know of everything that y'all been that y'all been up to i mean tell me tell me about y'all hot top fade which just dropped uh last year yeah last october yeah yeah tell me about uh tell me about like where you where you feel like you want to go next or like where you feel like you want to move from um it's a good question i think next is the most important word just just next yeah you know what i mean like building a catalog that's worth keeping collecting you know kind of like how star wars is yeah um you know having a little bit more fun with our imagination um experimentation with sounds yeah you know most people say they're in the kitchen are they cooking or whatever in the lab but are you you know so that's kind of how i think about it like i'm really putting some scientific you know science like chemical reactions yeah you know what i mean like what does this go with this does this go with this you know like what am i talking about today so i felt like with high top fade it was a really good reintroduction not that it's we ever gone anywhere but you know from a special edition of grandmaster luxe to before she got weird you know before she got weird came out during covet i don't think as many people caught on to it as much as i would have liked but i'm cool with that because if people go back and catch it yeah it's going to be like it's going to change them the way we intended it to yeah and now i'm more focused instead of trying to catch everybody's attention just what's next let's do what's next yeah and they'll find us i'm not tripping on them me finding them anymore yeah the covet of it all was really interesting because like i feel like there's a lot of projects that came out that were really quality during that period of time but i feel like i don't know if y'all agree with this but i feel like so much of what helps me appreciate music is like living to it yeah you know what i'm saying it's like really like you gotta really you can't just listen to it just like it has to happen outside you know what i'm saying you gotta like you gotta hear it on at a party you gotta hear it while you're driving around you gotta hear it when you like it's gotta be a part of your life you know what i mean you gotta like live with it right yeah and uh i feel like it was hard because we weren't really like living lives nobody was living so you know what i'm saying it was a weird time i was actually like i know we romanticized you know not having to like do too much and all that yeah that was terrible it was terrible it scrambled a lot of people's brains yeah i think a lot of people are still fried from that because it's like we never had an experience of no freedom like that and and and the experience of like uncertainty in that way yeah and it hit everybody at the same time kind of kind of you know kind of hard and i think that uh we're still seeing the effects today because people still like people kind of weird you know people kind of like still scramble bro like the world never went back to like that base level of like normalcy bro like people are still got some money that's what that's what that's what the game up yeah what yeah that money was crazy yeah you got it and i didn't i didn't run up nothing i ain't never had to worry about coming and look for me for running up a ppp too much i got exactly i got exactly what was getting you know what i'm saying right right you got what you got i got a couple partners and and people that i know that know other people yeah they never in their life they ran it up 210 grand people gonna come looking man look some of them is in jail yeah that's what i was like it feels like enough time has passed they probably probably in theory the prices was low and people had money yeah the crabs was losing their legs for sure them didn't have no legs yeah it was it was a fest on the crabs man the crabs was under attack under the crabs was in trouble each boy his legs was under the rest yeah man so there's it's just it's tough to like try to release something during that time bro like that was nobody knew what was really about to happen or how long this was gonna last so everybody of course was just still putting out their music as usual and trying to just you know keep it normal man but like if i would have uh known that it would have extended as long as it did covet and the effects um yeah maybe i would have held off a little bit on that one you know what i mean yeah i think i thought personally that it would have ended quicker i thought like you know the lot we thought it's gonna be like we thought it's gonna be like six weeks whatever you know what i'm saying maybe a little bit extra and then just ever lie to me like that outside even when it was like it's over and it's back open and how weird everything was when they were trying to like reopen that was like a whole another year and a half during lockdown i wasn't um we did a lot of it together man we went to vegas to work we worked out there for a minute okay we went to palm springs worked out there for a minute it would have been nice um yeah because the restrictions was like like you can go to the grocery store without your mask on yeah not that i was smart but you know it's just a little lighter nobody hold us now no puff daddy i mean i'm i'm curious about like you're talking about putting out music during the pandemic how much thought do you think goes into like the timing of like like the actual like time of the year that y'all put the album out in like some people i know are like oh i'm putting this out for the summer how much do y'all i used to think that matters it doesn't matter bro no no it can you know what i'm saying but it really it it can but you know like the day of the week it matters you know the time of the month matters but like trying to catch a summer album you to catch a summer album that gotta come out like in april right right right yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah people can sit with it for reality yeah yeah it's not coming out in the sun you're not releasing it in the summer sure sure to be a summer you gotta let it load up yeah it has to be like familiar by the time summer hits so people are already into it and familiar with it like it can't be brand new as the summer is starting and then it's a summer album it's gotta already be a part of the part of this you gotta take into account this ain't this ain't the golden era where people bought cds and everybody was listening to it at the same time because you wouldn't buy a cd and then not listen to it that day right now an album can come out you know you can listen to it when you can got time to get to it yeah so even your fans or whatever that's why streams are kind of a scam because now i got the freedom to listen to it when i got time but that makes it look like you're not getting my listen you know what i'm saying like so in my opinion it's it's whenever you feel it's like if you got an art gallery or if you got a um some sort of uh kind of an art gallery um some sort of you know art display it don't matter when you have the gallery opening yeah people just gonna come to look at it like feels like it's the right time for them yeah so it's like the world's changed a little bit and now you can kind of make up your own rule but it's got to be specific to you just trying to chase around people like that when they're not really that responsive it'll stress you out yeah i think we got good at not doing that yeah i mean i think there's a certain like level of respect that i have for people who are just like all right like i see i see what everybody's doing i see what y'all want me to do but like i'm gonna do it this way i'm gonna do it the way that like feels right to me because they just gonna talk about you anyway you feel me so or they gonna like it so it's two things because now you know albums are being listened to on streamer stream and all you're doing is watching a whole bunch of texts and binary codes come up and it feels very strange to me that should be a music stream it's definitely crazy that makes me feel old but i'm just like i got a nephew that's 13 and he'll be like so obsessed with this premier music do a stream is crazy yeah that's asinine and the streamer is like y'all not popping on the kaisenat stream to do it to do a dance when the song pop up To me, it's stuff like that. Like, I understand the world that he brings speed, all of them. But at a certain point, you got to be like, you know, it's not my style. Yeah. I can't go on nothing I don't watch. You know, like, I watch podcasts. I watch, like, music coverage. I watch, like, Questlove shit. You know, I watch a lot of sports stuff. So, chasing, you know, an audience that ain't even checking for you is guillotine. It's a quick way to die. Yeah, it's pretty terrible, man. It's a terrible way to die. Well, because then when you're swinging in a direction that, like, you don't even want to be swinging in, and then you miss doing the thing that you didn't even like. Man, people have been doing that on these streams, though. I've been seeing artists clip their knees, you know, by trying to go on there and be like, yo, how many followers you got? A million. Oh, I got to go on there. I want a million followers to see me. Like, everybody. Everybody got to this level of thirst that we haven't had before now that music is starting to, like, music is taking a turn, and they're, you know, trying to, like, deprioritize it. Streaming has already, you know, cannibalized a lot of people's sales and a lot of the money in music. So, it's like everybody looking for, like, oh, what do I do? What do I do now? What do I do now? And everybody's like, streamers, they're making a bunch of money. We got to go over there. Hurry up. We got to go over there and get some clout. So, everybody. It's kind of like tripping over each other's feet to go to these streams, and they be looking crazy, bro. I be seeing, like, people, and it's not an ageist thing, but, like, it's rappers that be older than me going on, like, you know, 20-year-old guy streams, and you looking wild just because, like, there's no sort of, like, connection between you and this platform. You're doing something that's not. The people that are watching you, they're not connecting with you. You're not really connecting with the streamer like that. Because you're not supposed to be over there. You're not supposed to be there. That's not where you're supposed to be. And the thing that they meet in the middle on is celebrity. Like, oh, you're a celebrity? Am I a celebrity, too? Okay, then we can both do something because we're both celebrities. But that's not enough no more, especially with the kids that are watching stuff now. Like, they have a very big appetite for content and shows and entertainment. So, they kind of already sniff out when you're trying to promo something or when you're trying to make some money. They're like, nope, we don't want it. We want you to hurt yourself, make us laugh, tell us how to get girls. Uh-huh. Or sell us. Don't tell us. Or don't tell us how to get girls. Tell us how to not get girls. I don't know. The way that I think young kids are learning how to get girls feels. No, look, because the thing about all of that is if you see the end game of it. You know, like, when I would buy a CD. Like, for example, when Blueprint came out, I'm in high school. No, I don't go get it because it's 9-11 that day. And I skip school because I didn't feel good. And then didn't even get to sleep through that motherfucker because my grandmother calls me. I'm like, we got attacked. I'm like, oh, my God. You skipped school on 9-11? No, I didn't skip school. I was a, you know, pretty decent student. And I didn't ask my parents to not go to school. I was trying to get through that shit so I could get, you know, get the fuck on. I didn't want to have to make up no classes or nothing. But, you know, I played football. And I had a good game the weekend before that. Yeah, what'd you play? Wide receiver and corner. I was kind of like a hybrid linebacker. Wide receiver, running back. But what happened was this was a cold game. Like, it was, you know, fall. But it was like probably 48 degrees and raining. So every catch I was getting, I'm banging my fingers up. I got dirt up my nose, all sorts of shit. So I just asked my mom, like, yo, that was, I had a good game. They was fucking with it. They was like, yeah, you want to sleep in? Sleep in. So I slept in. I can't even sleep in. I can't even fucking sleep in. Because 9-11 happened. Now you're going to war. But that was just a backstory for, like, because my plan was to go to school that day and get the Jay-Z album. And then when I get to school and, you know, the black table where we always talking, you know, rapping, all that shit. I wanted to be ahead of the conversation. That's what it was then. Like, you listen to it because you wanted to listen to it. And there was impact from it. Like, you didn't just set it down after that. Like, you know, like. It was like you said, you also had a physical thing. Yeah. And you're just not skipping through, like, you know, the music being on your phone and you got infinite skips. Yeah. That's not good for the human brain. Because it's just like, like how they do with mice. If you keep on giving small rewards, like, why the fuck would they stop? Why would they stop and enjoy it if there's another piece of cheese coming? Yeah. Fuck this cheese. Where's the next cheese at? And it's hard to sit with it, too, because it's like. There's more cheese. You know what I'm saying? I've had situations. There's a lot of cheese. It's tight, but there's more cheese. A lot of cheese. And that's what big tech did to music. And they knew it. They knew what the fuck they was doing. Of course. So it's not really like, you know, I don't think that music and streaming and all that is a good marriage. I think it's a terrible marriage. What do you think? Do you think there's like a version? Do you think there's a version that feels better for the artists that we can. Yes. There was one way to do things. Like, it's one way to make spaghetti. It's one way to do plumbing. It's one way to do electricity. It's one way to make spaghetti. Noodles and muffins. I hear what you're saying. You know what I mean? The combination. You can't. There's only. Like going and taking your ingredients and making it in the bathtub. That shit don't make no sense, dude. Right. Okay. So what I'm saying is there's only one way to listen to music. Through speakers. Off something that it was copied to or printed to that was mixed that way. Like, you can watch movies on the back of an Escalade, but that shit, that's not tight. So my thing is. Exhibit would beg to differ. He had a lot of people trying to. And look at, look at all that shit. And he did. TV and anything. He didn't put a TV in your ass. He don't pay attention. That nigga put a, uh, uh, uh, uh, IV drip in one of them girls. Yeah, because she was a nurse. He put a fucking operator table. I see you always dehydrated and sick. So we threw the IV drip in the back of the Kia Sportage, man. We got you, baby. Yeah, we see. I've seen. But look how, Pimp My Ride, they have a documentary on how bad that shit was. Oh, really? Do they have a follow up on it? It's like winning the lottery. Everybody, everybody that had got their carpet out is fucked up. Yeah, it ruined their lives, bro. Because it's like you just put 30 fish in the back of my fucking Kia Forte. Yeah, ruining people's lives, dog. Now I got, now I'm responsible for all these damn fish. I don't know how to fucking take care of that. They didn't think that all the way through. They did not. So that's what I'm saying. I think the future. Put lawnmowers in people's trucks and all types of helicopter propellers inside of your trunk. You put a fucking pizza oven in my engine. Yeah, it's a GameCube coming out the dashboard. Like, yeah, it's trouble. It's shit. I'm just, I'm just trying. I'm trying to go to my job at the state. It's catfish grease here. And your boss seeing your car, your boss like, was that a cheetah in the back of your Jaguar? Yeah, there's a fucking iguana crawling out of your tires. Oh, you're a friar, bro. You can't work here no more. Yeah, it's ruining lives. You got your oil chains with catfish, with catfish grease. Because it's a, it's a deep fryer in the back of your shit. You got a deep fryer in the trunk. Because he heard you wanted to make a wing spot. Yeah, he heard you like chicken wings. So we decided to throw a whole deep fryer in your trunk, man. Yeah. But yeah, that's what I feel like. It's, I think. And the original way, you know, CD tapes, vinyls, building your own, you know, digital collection, it's, it's going to be rediscovered. Because not every, everybody's going to not feel cool about the fact that everybody's doing the same thing. I'm watching, you know, my nieces and nephews figure that out on their own. They be in class like talking about Led Zeppelin and shit. And then come to school and be at the. The school table trying to stunt on their little friends with the knowledge that they just discovered that you can't just have. It's not on TikTok. This song don't exist over here. It's not popular right now. It's not trending. Popular is going to be the worst thing you could do in like the next four or five years. This is, these generations are like, they're starting to like rapidly separate, if you know what I mean. Like they're separating in, I guess, all their characteristics now. So like Gen Z and. Millennials like myself and him and probably all of us in this room, we all got our characteristics, you know what I mean? And like he was saying, I'm seeing like the smaller kids or the Gen Alpha kids and stuff, it's like they're kind of circling back to where like art was when it was like really exciting in our like generation, you know? I feel like we came in into music at a very exploratory period, I think it was like almost like a renaissance. It was a renaissance of like people excited about music again and finding new music and the internet was helping that and like blogs and stuff were helping that and it was just a level of discovery that was new to everybody at the time and I feel like that has kind of been pushed to the wayside a little bit over the past 10, 12 years because of streaming, you know, streaming and all the things that come with that and I do see like things kind of run a course though, man. I saw iTunes come and go. I saw CDs come and go. I saw, shit, we was on the Rapsody platform, you know what I mean? That was our biggest big commercial that kicked off a lot of us, but that was a music platform, a technology that came and it went. Rob Markman: Even the other Rapsody came and go. Rob Markman: Right. Stuff come and go. So it's like I'm curious to see like what this is going to lead to next, you know? I see people are getting into like a lot more physical media now, like it's becoming really cool to have physical stuff now, you know? Rob Markman: Do y'all have a lot of physicals? Yeah. I collect a lot of records. Rob Markman: The only thing I don't think we got is. Before shit got weird Which we are going to change that But like I said COVID was happening I don't think You know It was hard to find A good print press I was asking like If y'all listen to Other people's music Oh yeah I got a collection I got my Yeah I've been a big collector I'm a DJ too Yeah I mean you strike me As somebody who kind of got Young and everything And I buy I buy what I want to listen to You know like I go to see movies Ain't nobody going to Shake me off my square And then I'm walking around Acting fake depressed Because ain't shit cracking When shit's cracking I take my black ass outside Physical makes It makes music feel fun again though You know Even though it's not like The practical solution To listen to music Because like obviously You can't carry your vinyl around And listen to it all the time Yeah you can pull up An mp3 on your phone What can you do You know what I mean They making boom boxes again Oh for real You walking in Best Buy They got Best Buy's getting Best Buy's with everything Prioritized again Because it's making it fun again You can buy tape It's got a CD player in it Some of them got a 45 Oh shit They making them Them entertainment centers Like your grandmother used to have Where we had a TV With the record on top of it Yeah Yeah I got a buddy that has one They putting flat screens in those now Instead of just putting it on the wall Like And I knew this was going to happen But it's a It's a good reaction Like now they got Just TVs with nothing Right And ain't got no plug And ain't got no nothing Right No buttons on it Yeah Oh man like Just screen Just screen And then The TV I got at my house I straight up one time I was like I couldn't find the remote I was like Wait I don't I can't turn this off You can't even operate it I can't like For real I cannot do Ain't no buttons No I can't do nothing to it And you know like They used to have TVs with the CD And the VHS in it That's true You could really watch movies Yeah Now you gotta Find your Roku remote Which I know you lost Yeah And Your Wi-Fi gotta be set up Your Wi-Fi gotta be jumping Yeah Your Wi-Fi gotta be going crazy Because So much data Is used on these streaming man And then you gotta sign in And then you gotta Find the profile You gotta remember Your password You gotta set up a No and Man I'm at the crib And we Thought we was being smart And Got the The fire stick With all the Different streaming apps On them and shit That's the worst thing You could ever do Because it's like They're gonna take you to jail And you're going to And you're going to jail You're gonna crack Fire stick They're gonna take you Hey man You're gonna be in there With the PPP loan guys Right It's me and the PPP loan guys Don't omit that on camera All types of fraud Tell them you bought Your fire stick Tell them people Hey yeah I bought it I purchased it I mean we did purchase it But like You know This is the world We live in now man Like it's just A billion Different streaming apps now So we trying to find Like one show Like we trying to watch From or something man I'm like man Where from at man It's like Oh I gotta go Search for it on here Nope they ain't got it yet Oh I'll go search for it On this Oh they ain't got it I'm like dog I'd rather pay for cable man Like this shit Honestly when they put I'd rather Just bring cable Just bring cable back Go ahead Give me my 200 channel I got nine apps I got nine different apps That I pay for Yeah I only watch one Some of them don't work And when they put Sports on Tubi It's a duh I swear to god I'm never changing Some of them don't work They gonna start putting Some sports on Tubi It's not gonna be The sports you wanna see It's even tough To watch the game now The game don't even come on Like regular TV YouTube won't let me Watch the world cup Talking about Oh you ain't in LA right now I'm like bitch I paid y'all $99 a month Don't get fucked up It's crazy They said it's local He said you can watch it At the crib But don't you go outside And watch it Especially like We all travel We go on the road Tubi When you be on the road Trying to Tubi if you're listening We know that you are Hey you already know How I feel about you baby Let's go Tapping with Chuck Yeah for real Tubi Tapping with Chuck He trying to He trying to make some shit Hey Tubi or not Tubi That's my That's my You know Take that and run with it Nah they gonna have to Meet up with us For real I wanna shoot a Low budget film On Tubi High budget film Fuck it Oh I like the low I like the low budget qualities That's the bread and butter Over there man That's the good stuff Have you thought about What the film's about Oh plenty of them man Plenty of ideas One of our Maybe like Uncle type of vibe A dad friend Type of vibe Yeah He struggling to Take the block back You know He get out of jail Or something And he fell off Oh he trying to Take the block over Yeah he fell off It's a street movie Yeah it's an old street Old street Low budget Oh yeah yeah yeah Low budget street It's like a new guy There's a new guy On the block Who's kind of Got it cracking Yeah yeah yeah He gotta figure out How to take him down Yeah he gotta figure that out Low budget You know what I mean Real Real Real janky camera work I wanna see if I get Martin Lawrence For one of my movies Okay Oh yeah Yeah yeah yeah See yeah It's all type of Spectrums on too But you get some High brow You get some low brow You know Whatever your flavor Did y'all ever think About doing any kind of Like duo Like buddy comedy Type thing Nah we wrote Yeah we've been Writing shit for 12 years Writing stuff So we We got so much shit We just need We just need One of our One of our Angel investor friends In the world To believe One of them billionaires That's about to go to jail To believe in What we about to do Cause we got movies We got brands We got clothing designs We got Techno We got furniture ideas And all type of shit bro It's just like Once we meet up with Whoever I'm thinking of In my head We're gonna do it We're gonna meet up With this person You got a rich homie In mind Nah I don't even know Who it is I don't know who it is But it's You know he's out there Somewhere He's coming He's gonna be here Yeah cause he's spending His money on dumb shit Right now Yeah he's out there And we're gonna link up And then we're gonna Open up this Emporium of Cool kids He just bought A yacht For one of his side businesses He got a baby with He's trying to hide Yeah yeah And then before The news come out I'm like bro Just give us the money We're gonna tell I'll talk to her first Yeah yeah yeah He's paying for new titties Not even that It's past that Okay that's already We've already He bought her a boat The titties was already on her Child support coming now Yeah yeah Real child support Now you're on child support A child support trust If you're a wealthy man And you found yourself Caught up in a situation 1-800 Call the call Call the cool kids Call the cool kids If you're looking for a place To park that Two trillion dollars That you just made Come on over here And reach out to the cool kids Wander with the cool kids And some of our businesses Before everybody Luigi's your ass Speak on it That's coming next Speak on it Stop doing bad stuff Start investing in the cool kids Stop doing bad stuff No I know I know that there is There's a cool Billionaire somewhere In the world Cause when you think about How billionaires used to be Back in the day They used to be kinda cool Like they'll build a library Yeah They'll build the highways Yeah Museums Museums Put everybody in school Right Cause they wanted to flex It's like our billionaires Now kinda got a little lame man They don't wanna flex On each other no more They just wanna flex On the poor people Yeah Which is like No you're supposed to flex On other billionaires By doing cool stuff For the world Not flex on the poor people Or they're just trying To go to space Fuck you trying To go to space for I don't know what anybody Ain't nobody I never wanted to be in space There's nothing up there There's nothing up there That I need to be involved I'm gonna tell you What's gonna happen Flex on the other billionaires Bro like don't flex On a dude with a job Don't do that You're gonna go to Mars right Yeah You're gonna get off That motherfucker Yeah It ain't no Uber Who the fuck About to pick you up There's nothing fun You can't even walk Ain't nothing to eat You can't breathe The air is You can't get fresh What are you looking for up there The game is for sure Not coming on No no no Ain't no dominoes YouTube TV don't work at all At all No not on Mars Your cell phone don't work Nah you can't do nothing You can't do shit And it took you two years To get there Now I get why Katy Perry Only went up there For like 15 minutes Shit ain't go up there Space I'm gonna break I'm gonna be Real with y'all Space is the biggest Scam of all time Space is ass Space is ass bro Space sucks Space is a scam Space is a scam bro What the fuck You wanna go there for This is why it's a scam bro This is why it's a scam We damn near Haven't really Even been there yet We always claim We've been to the moon And all these other things I don't even wanna Get into all that But like The amount of time The amount of time And space and distance That it takes to get To any of these places It's useless for us To try this Like we're never Going to Mars Like it literally Would take Hundreds of like Human years To fly there You're gonna be dead Unless you do a little Hyper freeze in space That's what you gotta do Whatever you try to do To make it there But then if you You're human body But you're gonna wake up And now there's an alien On the ship Or you're gonna You know what I'm saying Now there's diseases That you drew on you While you were asleep Like you're dead Now you're trying to Take one of your arms off And you're gonna get off That ship And you're gonna be Like the little car wash nigga That be just flying Now you're big and floaty You ain't even gonna Be able to walk And they said Space smells like Burning garbage They said it smelled like Just a smoky garbage Yeah they said That's what it smells like If you can smell in space It smells like Burning garbage Like that's what The air atmosphere We don't need to go there It ain't nothing up there I won't be going The sub Hey that little submarine Couldn't even go down In the ocean How the fuck Did you go up to space Right we can't even see What's in the bottom Of the lake yet They did get in the ocean They got two in the ocean They got down here They got down here Like a balloon Oh yeah They popped They not supposed to be As far down as they The niggas went out Like a coke can Yeah it's also like No we can't go past Antartica How are we supposed To be going to space I'm about to stay right here My arm's working You know what I'm saying The air is right here It's up my nose This was made for us You know what I'm saying This wood and fire And air and grass here And water and shit But nigga we got cherries I just bought some cherries Yesterday You know what I'm saying Pineapples We got pineapples They don't got that in space They don't got no pineapples It rains Bangles It rains freezing diamonds On Saturn On the planet Saturn Freezing diamonds Is that true They'll slice your shit up It just rains freezing diamonds Like what you gonna do with that You gonna get icy You can't You can't live there Not in the Gucci way You know what I mean It's gonna be a bad ice It's not so icy boys at all Yeah that's why I'm like We gotta stay here Cause there's nowhere else For us to go bro We can't go nowhere They didn't design it for that And if you ever took Some psychedelics And looked up at the sky You like Man that shit ain't real You're like that's for them That's for them We took acid one time And seen the clouds Turn into ice cubes Did we not It's for the God From today It was a good day From the video He had the hat on And all that Yeah Yeah and a little light Through the hat So it looked like The light The logo was on it. Okay. Yeah, I'm dead ass serious. I believe. Right there. I believe. So we don't need to go nowhere. We don't. Chuck, can I ask you something? Yeah. I follow you on Twitter. Okay. Start with that. You just got to start with that one. This is day two of this shit. Start with that. Didn't they say that yesterday? Yeah. All right. All right, what's the next question? Right, now where does it go? You be beefing with niggas on a daily basis. Beefing on a daily basis? Beefs? Yes. You be going back and forth with people pretty regularly. I pick and choose. You be going back and forth with people on a regular basis. It surprised me because when I listen to y'all's music, the music is, it's no smoke in the songs. Well, the going back and forth that you catch, I know it's a bot. I'm just letting niggas know, hey, play with something safe. Got you. And I'm not arguing. I'm just like, bitch, shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up. Bots. Yeah, the bot game is different now. But most of the things I say is hilarious until somebody tries to be like, well, actually, they're like, bitch, shut the fuck up. And you will be telling people that. I'll tell you to your face. Yeah, yeah. That's the beautiful part about it. No, this is about keeping Twitter safe. Anybody that's ever seen me say something, yeah, we got to keep Twitter. Keep Twitter fun. Keep Twitter safe. Because you be going back and forth. You ain't heard him. Oh, yeah. Yeah, he be cutting into shit. People be trying to ruin, they trying to ruin Twitter and turn it into something that I didn't initially sign up for. And I'm not letting them change my. I'm not letting them change my. Experience of Twitter. I'm on Twitter for the laughs and to see some cool shit and have some fun. Probably talk about some music or something else I'm into. And that's that. I'm not, we're not about to do all this bickering and fighting that they tried to turn Twitter into now and all of this rage baiting and all of this vague posting and weird shit. Everybody's just trying to get their four cents from their engagement checks, man. It's like. They don't even pay no more. I never even got it. Because I'm like, I don't, I just didn't even want to give them an idea. All cyber guys was like $168. Okay. And was that like. Was that like a huge, was that like a huge tweet? I think I go play every once a week. That probably was a tweet. That probably was a tweet with like 20 million views. And they probably gave them a hundred. Yeah. That's the, that's the scale though. They don't pay you well on there. That's not worth it. No. Yeah. And that's why I be seeing people on there every day just like getting rage baits and arguing with people. Just say the wildest shit. I'm like, bro, you about to get two cents for that, bro. It's like you need, you need $80 that bad. You just threw your cortisol through the roof. You know, you about to have a heart attack at 29 because of all the stress you under. It's a. Rage baiting people every day. It's a thing that I like, uh, that I find myself like explaining to people who are like younger. Like I said, I have like teenage, like nieces and nephews and I'm like, man, like, which I don't realize the internet used to be like actually a fun place. Yeah. It's not. Now it's like a place to go get stressed out. Like there was a time where it was like, oh, you would be like, oh, what are my friends up to? Right. I would be happy to go see my MySpace messages after school or something. Oh, come on. Come on. Get on the computer and be like, damn, what's up? You and somebody's top eight now. Right. Like it was, it was a positive, cheerful place, man. But now it's just like, I literally get rage. I'm ready for war when I'm going on the internet. Cause I'm like, I'm not going to let none of these motherfuckers talk to me crazy. We not about to argue about this and that. Y'all not about to trick me into something and rage bait me. Like you got to prepare for war when you going on to these socials. Now, if I'm about to post on Instagram, I'm like, all right, let's line up the line up every picture and put the, put the reels together and make sure that the carousel works. Cause if I don't post it at five 29, then it's going to get fucked up. And it's like, dog, this social media ratio, right? It's. It's war now. It used to be fun, man, but it's, it's just war now. And, um, I want to, I want to turn it back into fun. Like it used to be, man. But the algorithm, the algorithm ain't going to be your friend, but fuck it. Yeah, kick some shit over. You know? I mean, I mean, y'all, I mean, this has been a good conversation. We having a good time, but, uh, y'all brought some lyrics for us. Of course. That y'all want to dive into. And I want to get into these lyrics, uh, you know, while we got time. So there was a song that both of y'all wanted to talk about. So I'm going to pull that up first. Oh yeah. Because y'all was both into this one. Okay. So what, what, what are we supposed to speak on why this is our favorite? Are we just bringing them to. Usually. We're just bringing the light to. Just, yeah. You can bring like something you appreciate about it or like a bar that really stood out to you. Something that felt really like, oh, like this went crazy when he said that. Or a lot of times on this, it's a lot of like people. I'll stop. I'll stop before he hops on the BQE. Uh, yeah. Let's say we got guns in the grass. It's three at night. I'm about to take the last swallow of the easiest Jesus. That's E&J. Who got 50 on the next tree. I got to stop at the store to get D batteries for the theme music. So Prodigy to me was always setting a scene and he didn't, like as an author, it wasn't so literal that you was bored. So to me, you know what I'm saying? East side Detroit shit. I don't really know how New York works, but off that I'm like, oh shit, we in Queens. Yeah. Oh, they had guns in the grass. Yeah. They need this. Yeah. Like they've been trapping all day and all they need is some weed and they ran out. Do you know rappers never run out of weed on their songs? Right. It's always a win. Nobody ever got a cop. Yeah. They never, it's never, uh, they never take losses. So he said, uh, who got 50 on the next tree? Got to stop at the store. We need three D batteries for the theme music. We took our, uh, what'd he say? He took it. What out the, um, what's right after that? For the theme music. Grab the biscuits from out the lawn. So the guns they stashed, they just picked them back up. Yeah. He say, Hey, fuck a cab. Let's take cracked out Yolanda sob. I gave that bitch two wibbles. Wibbles. Wibbles is crack rocks. I just learned something new. So this nigga just rented, he rented the car for, for crack. Right. So he could hop on a BQE. He's bartering. Yeah. Community system. Everybody wins. Yeah. So when I hear it, it's like when we rap that, I'm like, you can't get more creative than that. Yeah. Then he said, when I sparked a sequel, my niggas got lungs. When we smoked, that bitch only go around once. And if you ever been in the cypher and smoked a blunt and you rolled it and it was your weed and when you got it back, it was no more weed. That shit's deep. Real, real, real shit. How you gonna take over from there? I'm trying to see. You kind of danced all around. No, I'm not. Then we got an, oh. Yeah. You at the BQE. You said. Skated off in a bitch. He said. Outside the borough. Done what happened to Queens. Got something in one, two, one. Farmers in 116. They got us on the BQE just to get a taste of that greenery. Took a smoke out the Coney Island. Posted up by the Himalaya. Call it a champagne. That's St. Ives or Dunn lingo. All right, I'm gonna stop right there. Yeah. Okay. What is, what's always crazy about Prodigy is like, he would put you on to so much deep cut slang, you know. Wibbles. Wibbles. The BQE, I just found out, that's the real train. Like, real, what is it? The Brooklyn Queens Express? Yeah. The St. Ives. You know, obviously, y'all all know what the St. Ives is. Do they even still sell St. Ives? That shit gone out. St. Ives. St. Ives. Malt liquor. Do they still sell it? That shit gone. It's probably somewhere. But yeah, man. Like, Prodigy has just put you on so much deep cut slang, man. And they kind of created a language themselves. Dunn lingo. The Dunn lingo was real, bro. Like. I remember being in, like, sixth, seventh grade. Yeah. Trying to, like, decipher Dunn lingo with, like, my sister boyfriend. Like, because he was one of the dudes that put me on Prodigy heavy. So, we would be just trying to break down, like, what the fuck is he saying right now? Like, what are the, what does this word mean? What does this word mean? Like, they kind of came up with a language of their own, man. And the history behind it is they had a homie that had a speech impediment. So, the Dunn lingo was because the nigga couldn't say son. Like, what up, Dunn? Oh, yeah. Oh, shit. Yeah. Yeah, man. He couldn't do his T-H's and S's. So, he swapped it out. I don't know the nigga, but I think, I'm pretty sure that's, all great things are created in an accident. Yeah, true. You know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, man. But, yeah, this whole verse is just an exhibition in slang creation, storytelling, man. Yeah. Really creative writing. Slang creation. Descriptive writing, man. Visuals. Like, it just. It turns into a little movie if you really pay attention to it. And for those who don't, you know, know what this song actually sounds like, with the beat with it, too, like, it's cinematic. Like, you could see him walking through this entire experience, you know? So, I think this is a verse that is definitely a staple, a cornerstone in some of the best verses in rap, you know, of all time. This is definitely one of those cornerstone pieces, for sure. It's not over-rapping. And I think that a lot of people think lyricism is just, you know, compounds a lot of syllables, you know, rhyme after rhyme after rhyme after rhyme, with words that might not even train track off each other. That's something I could see. Like, when you pick up a really good book, and you know within three pages, you're like, oh, yeah, I'm gonna finish this shit today. Yeah. That's what I think me and him share. Like, we understand. And, you know, oratorial skills and ways to put words where it excites your, you know, the imagination that creates the visuals you see when you read. Because that's why people read. You can make your own movie. You know, that's why people complain about how the movie don't look like the book. How the fuck would you know? The book don't got no pictures. But that's good. It's like you painted it. You painted the picture. Being human is cool if you really learn how to use the tools. And so. I'm curious about this with any artist, because it's like, y'all brought. a lot of songs a lot of songs y'all brought was from you know kind of past era, some classics, some classic joints. Who are y'all listening to right now? Who are y'all listening to right now that you're like, oh, I'm fucking with what they're putting out? - Man, King Hendrix, man. That's one of my tops right now. - I don't know, I don't know him. - For sure, man. He from Houston, I believe, but-- - Oh shit, he's a Houston dude. - He worked with Babyface Ray a lot. - I fuck with Babyface Ray. - And a lot of Detroit people. - Okay. - King Hendrix. - He did a couple tapes with Topside, yeah. - Okay. - But yeah, he go crazy, man. He got a way of delivering everything that's super unique, bro. And it's a combination of obviously street trapping shit, but at the same time, dawg, he talking a genius game. It's kind of the best of both worlds when it comes to the musicality of it all, the lyricism of it all, and subject matter too. - Mm-hmm. - And even the beat selections and shit. So when I first started getting into his shit, probably like last year, two years ago or something, it was real refreshing. That shit was super refreshing, man, to see somebody come in with the street angle, but creatively and spitting too. 'Cause a lot of times you can win on street shit just by being a real street nigga. If your stories are real, you could win being a street rapper, just as long as you telling your shit. It's gonna be a crowd for that. But a lot of times, I laugh with a couple of my friends and shit, 'cause in Chicago, it's this thing where like, all right, if somebody was a big street dude, usually they'd just try to rap eventually one time. We'd be like, man, here go the street niggas, always thinking that they supposed to rap. Like every street nigga-- - You could see it all, you could see it all. - Every street nigga-- - They sell drugs to rap. - Yeah, it's like, every street nigga don't need to rap. - I love the idea of somebody selling crack on the corner and be like, ooh, I can't wait to get-- - I can't wait to rap about this. - I can't wait to write a poem about this. - Yeah, you feel me? - He chop the wibbles up. - Every street nigga don't need to rap. Sometimes you just a really good street nigga, you know what I mean? But over the past umpteen years, there's been this big infatuation with the streets again, you know what I'm saying, when it comes to rap. And it comes from a lot of voyeurism of people from good situations, suburbs and nice places that want to voyeurize. They want to voyeurize into some of the dark street shit and get a feel for that. And that's intriguing to a lot of them. And a lot of them have caused this big swell of like, ooh, is he a real, did he really kill somebody? Oh, he really killed him? Oh, I got to listen to that. It turns people on to know that I'm listening to a real criminal, this is great. But that doesn't always guarantee good artistry, just 'cause you a real criminal, you know what I mean? - Speaking of which, speaking of which, I got to give y'all flowers again. Y'all put me onto one of my favorite rappers, who really be talking about street shit in a very beautiful, eloquent way. Y'all put me onto Bodie James. - Of course, yeah, that's a archetype example of like what I'm talking about here, you know? It's combining the reality of it, the stories of it. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Yeah, and he from a whole another planet with this shit. - Watching him turn things that I've even seen into, you know, like real scripture. - Real like movie scripts, bro. He'll give you street names and tell you what happened over here and that's for sure what happened. - The best part about him is like you obviously, y'all grew up together and I met him later on in my life and you know, we got close and I would listen to stories that he would tell me where we talking about, you know, shit that was going on in his past and just stories, you know, and then I would be maybe visiting in Detroit or something, riding around with him and then I'm seeing, all this shit from all the songs and all the people from the songs and it all connects and it's a real world that he's built, you know what I mean? And I don't know if people get to experience that level of like world building with artists. Like he built a world that like really existed. He could really drive you through like a, what's that ride at Disney World? It's a small world or whatever and he'd point out all the little landmarks and all that shit. - I sure used to scare the fuck out of people. Take you through one of them, you know what I'm saying? And I think that's what creates like a legendary writers when they can bring you into their reality for real, you know? - He has a joint, I was trying to remember what it was. No, it's not this one. He has one where he's straight up is just like telling the whole story and like, he's literally like, he's like, yeah, I had to drop my son off and then I had to pick him up and then I had to go over here and then I was like, oh, this is like, it's a real day. - Yeah. - Like you don't like a real shit, bro. - There's some real shit, that's, but. - What song was that? - That's almost like the antithesis of what we're talking about. Where when we were younger, this wasn't, it wasn't like he was living this life to rap. It was, he was always good with words. You know, like we would have like little family functions. We would play like word games and I ain't never seen nobody do that shit. Where it's like, you know, you'll play the game where you'll start off with an A word and then you gotta remember what everybody else said. - Oh yeah. - Bro, you not beating him at that. No one's beating him at that. - Yeah. - I sat at the kitchen table like, bro, what the fuck is wrong with you? How did you, how do you do this? - Yeah. - Nah, he ain't hitting it with it. - And like, he don't, he can go to his concert. He don't miss one word and it's all in his head. He write it down one time and it's like, he just knows it, you know, and got it rehearsed. He's really rain, man. But that's, you know, sometimes you gotta have talent. - Yeah, of course. And he like, he putting out a new album. Like I feel like he be putting out like six albums a year. - I mean, it's therapy, fam. - The volume is like. - It's just what he, you know, it's like hooping. - It's easy when it's like, you just recounting. He could just pluck the stories out of his mind. - Yeah. - You know what I mean? Like that's, that's the beauty of it all. It's not like you gotta create or fabricate something from scratch that doesn't exist. All he doing is he just could pluck one of the billion stories he got from his head and put that bitch down on a song. And it's gonna be fresh every time. - That's why he's gathering such a fan base where it's like, you go to something he has or an album release, you'll see every single human. - Yeah. - Every single person. - It's like a real mixed bag of like every type of person. - It's like literally like the Marvel universe. - Yeah. - You know, and physical music. - Yeah. - You know, every single Bodie James album has got a vinyl or something behind it. So that has a lot to do with what we were talking about earlier, like just, he don't really, he's not, he's not trying to find people. People are finding him. - Because he's like. - You know, like I don't, he don't need no joint for the radio. He don't gotta get so-and-so on it. He don't need a hook from so-and-so, like it's his world. - Did there ever, did there ever feel like a time for y'all in y'all's career where you're like, oh, like we got to like, like a label or like anybody was like, oh, they want you to make like this type of music and you- - Oh yeah, that shit happened before us. That shit was funny as hell. We was about to, we were getting quartered by J Records and, I think all through that whole little time when we was getting quartered, me and him would just laugh. Like, bro, it's free food. Like you get to sit up in there and they put you in hotels and all that, but we not going. And I remember one time, like, I'm not going to say his name, but he liked a very big person in music. - Okay. - And he's cool as hell. I love him. And he likes our music. So he would come to shows and he said, "Yeah, sign with us. We're going to put you on a remix to 'Teenage Dreams' by Alicia Keys." I'm like, "Nigga, what the fuck did you do?" - For some context too, like this is during those years where the record industry and like internet music and blog, music and shit were like kind of still fighting to see who was about to come out next. So the, the traditional like record industry ideas of doing shit was still very prevalent. And back then it was like, oh yeah, we got to get you on, you know, get you on the hook with so-and-so and get you on the big remix. And you know, it was like, - We got to get Wale with Lady Gaga. - Yeah. It was that era still where people were still trying to just fit a square peg in a round hole, you know, just because that was the tradition. - That song aged well. - That was the tradition. - I liked that song. - I liked that song when it came out. - I forgot that one. I forgot that one, but. - But Lady Gaga wasn't Lady Gaga when that happened. - Nah. - Yeah, she was still very new. - She was brand new. - She was still on the comeback. - She was still very new. - No, she was brand new. - Was that brand new Gaga? - Brand new. - In my mind, I guess she's been poppin' for such a long time. - She was still new. - She's just always been. - I think she had some shit before that. - She had. - I feel like she had a little bit. - She had the "Just Dance" song. - Yeah, it was just a little bit before that. - "Just Dance" was poppin'. - And she was signed to Akon. - Yeah. - Which nobody talks about. Nobody's talking about that. - I'm talking about Akon. I remember that. - She was signed to Convict Music. - She was. - Akon is. - That's crazy. - Akon, hey, good lookin'. - That's crazy work, man. - Yo, Akon. - That's crazy work. - Akon saw the future. - He be seein' somethin', man. For sure. Akon a different dude, man. - You know what I'm sayin'? - That nigga big up. - That's a different dude, man. - That's a different dude. - He buildin' the whole, he buildin' the city, right? - Shit. - I don't know. What he on? I'ma stay out there, man. Busy. - Yeah, man. Nah, he had that Sub-Zero from Mortal Kombat. Christian Dior fake vest, though, in that time. It had me dyin', bro. What was that? - I ain't drink champs. I never seen this vest. - You gotta watch his drink champs. Yeah, he on there with a Sub-Zero Scorpion Mortal Kombat. - We gon' let him have it. - Karate vest. - You gon' tell him somethin' about it? - I ain't got shit to say to him, nope. - Hey, look, you discover Lady Gaga, you can put on whatever type of vest you want. - I'm pretty sure Akon is a gangster. I don't know nothin' to do. - He look like a nigga to definitely know a roundhouse kick with the hard bottom. Some hard bottom shoes on too? Of course. He look like the type of nigga that definitely hit you with a quick one of them. Yeah, hit you with the roundhouse. He hit you with a roundhouse with them hard bottoms on. I already know. Yeah. Every time a nigga's fighting and they bring a kick out, I'm always like, let's shut it down. You got to reestablish things. You kicking? I'm kicking niggas. Off the top. I'm definitely kicking. What if, you get into it with somebody and they first initial move into the confrontation is like, he just crane up on you. One leg in the air. You fighting or flighting? You staying or you leaving? I'm going to go ahead and get out of there first. You don't know shit about doing it. He's like, oh, what? You said. And then you lift that leg up a little bit. You sticking around or you going to be not at all. I'm going to go ahead and fly. Hey, brother. Hey, you got it. You got it. Oh, okay. Yeah, you got to leave. You got to leave. I might try. I don't end up in fighting situations that much, but I might pull that out just so like just what you got to commit to that. Yeah, you got to really put something. No, because if a nigga don't believe that and you don't got that crane in you, he's going to sweep that other leg. You're done. You're getting liquefied. Put you in a Gatorade bottle. We got a couple more bars that y'all brought. Let's get into those too. Let's go. Let's go Twista. Let's go. That was you, right? Yep. Yep. Yep. All right. We got emotions. We got emotions. We got emotions on this one. Shout out Johnny P on the hook. R.I.P. One of the greatest. Let me see. Oh, yeah. You could just start from the top on this one. Well, a motherfucker could never control me. Only squeeze me and hold me. That's what the hoe came up and told me. Now, ain't she bold, G? But my mouth is what a gold be because I'll be pimping it like Goldie. Got to get paid in this age. My fingers ain't made to just be chopping up confetti with. It's already thick. If it's already thick, you better study nigga. If you ain't with it, you can get it because I ain't even on that petty shit. You hear me? Like these are a lot of very direct, very direct statements that Twista is delivering to you here, man. I always just fucked with the way that the way that he is able to obviously spit fast, but still be very, very clear in enunciating what he's saying and like positioning his breaths, between words to where he don't got to stop. He don't got to like, no, he's like carrying on every, you know, syllable without even having to like take that big breath, man, because of the way he spaces his words out, man. And obviously, man, like coming from the West Side, Twista is definitely one of the best player rappers to ever be. I think that's what really, you know, kind of raised me and what I was raised up on, you know, coming from Chicago is just a lot of player stuff, man. And him and Do or Die and Crucial Conflict, a lot of them were super instrumental in like developing that style for the city and giving us that, you know, that cadence and giving us that, you know, that style that was our own. So I always try to, you know, every so often make sure that I'm refreshing my mind with the stuff that really inspired me in the first place. And the stuff that really is like the foundation of how I learned how to write, you know? And I'm glad that I learned how to write like fast first. Like this is a lot of the stuff that I would listen to to, you know, kind of emulate to try to learn how to like position these raps and learn how to like, learn how to pace myself, you know? And starting out with a person that's like Twista that's rapping fast, obviously, when it became time for me to like slow it down and learn how to rap for real in other ways, then it was easier for me because I'm used to already like having to cram a lot into a little. Now when I'm able to space it out more, it's way easier. I can see it way more clearly, man. And that all comes from, you know, starting out with a quick kind of rapid fire foundation like this, you know? Can I ask you something, Mike? You from Chicago. I acted in a show. That's what, I acted in a show in Chicago where they Oh yeah, I meant to ask you too. What show was you on? It's this, they're doing, they're doing Barbershop the Show. I heard about that. Yeah. You want to know something crazy? What happened? They sent me the script for that. Yeah. And I was supposed to audition for a role on there. Yeah. I don't know if, is it already done? We already shot it, yeah. You already shot it? Okay. So is there, is there this dude, is there this dude on there that was like, I think it was right? I was supposed, that's you? He took my motherfucking role, man. That was supposed to be me. It was supposed to be me. Dog, that's hilarious. Man, that's you? Damn, I can't believe I'm sitting in front of, dog, took the exact role that I was going to do. That's crazy. Who would have thought? My bad, dog. I wouldn't imagine I'm flying out of New York to meet dude and his podcast is playing the role that I was going to play on there. I didn't even audition for it, but they sent it to me though and they were like, yo, you want to do this? And I read it. I was like, oh, that could be funny. That could be dope. But I think the, the audition time had passed by then or something. I was like, oh shit, it's too late. And I just was like, fuck it, bud. I mean, y'all already made, y'all made y'all acting debut. Yeah. Oh yeah, that was fun. That was fun. I'm trying to do some more though, man. That was, that was fun, man. That was cool. What's it like to get killed on camera? It was, it was hard work, honestly. Like we had to fall a lot, like repeatedly fall and shit, man. That kind of got a little painful, but other than that, it was, it was pretty fun, man. Daniel Kaluuya's super, super, super talented, bro. Like acting with him, acting with him make you feel like a better actor. Yeah, one day, one day your XP goes up. I believe it. Yeah. Yeah, shout out, shout out. Y'all gotta go, also go watch Widows. It's a good movie. It's for real a good ass movie. No, it's good, man. And Mike and Chuck are both in it. I need to go update my SAG address. I might got a check in there. Right, you know, they just sent something crazy. You got it? It's an online thing now. They told everybody. But you ain't got the money though? They said, it's something about the music part of it now. The soundtrack, they're trying to pay for that now. So you gotta sign this online thing and then they'll start paying you for the music part. I gotta get my address. I probably got a couple bands in that. He's like, where's the money at? Go see what's up. You got a SAG check recently? No, I didn't. I didn't get the check. But I signed up for that thing though. Have you gotten one recently? We tried to get to the bottom of it. Probably a couple weeks, a couple weeks ago. But them shits, man, like SAG checks after the movies, man. All those people out there just watching and wondering how show, show business goes, they be real dope at first. And then after a couple years, them bitches will be $8. Them niggas will send you a check for 17. Seven cents. They'll send you a check for seven cents. The numbers look cool at first. Yeah. When it's in the theaters, it's dope. When it first come out, you're like, yo, we. Them checks is good. When it went out to theaters and they had it on the airplanes, yeah, they was sending us Brick Ferry. Oh, yeah. It's decent. It's decent when they get on the planes. You think like your next check, you kind of, counting out the time, it's been like a couple months, my shit finna hit. You going through, you got the letter opener, all that, pull that bitch out. Yeah, movies are funny, bro. Movies are hilarious. It could go from $7,000 to $128. Yeah, movies are funny. And if you ain't never had your heart broke by a woman, you can get your heart broke by some paper. I'm like, y'all spent more typing this up than paying me for this. Y'all could have just kept that shit. Y'all should just let somebody just like add up for a little bit. Yeah, y'all spent more typing this than what I'm getting paid. So, yeah, movies is funny. Movies is funny, though, man. The reality of it is, yeah, they'll be big at first, but after the years go by, you'll start getting those dollar checks. That's why I get why motherfuckers be doing weird-ass movies. You be like, damn, you was just an Oscar Award winning movie, now you in this shit? Yeah. Now I'm like, oh, you gotta keep the bands up. They trying to keep the lights on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You created a lifestyle for yourself. Now you better get in the next movie. I mean, we gotta wrap up, unfortunately, pretty soon. All right, now I know which one. Let's wrap up on this one. I already know we're going to. Which one you want to go to? Go to Ghostface Nut, man. Got you. I got you. Okay. I forgot what he said he was doing when he wrote this. This is a controversial one right here. This is real controversial. A lot of people like to say like, oh, man, he wasn't saying shit on there. He wasn't rapping. He was just making up words and rhyming words. Whoop-de-whoop. Nah, man, we about to break it down and go into the meat and the potatoes of this one. I ain't got my glasses on. Can you blow the screen up a little bit? Yeah, I got you. I got you. I got you. Hold on. Niggas is aging. Let me pull up. This one controversial. My skin look good, but my eyes is fucking up. My kneecaps, too. We was talking about kneecaps. Yeah, man. Knees be hurting. Teleprompter size. Yeah, I got you. Okay, so if you ever heard Nutmeg, you know, yeah, you know it's one of the greatest rap songs of all time. But like, see how this sample comes? The first time I heard it, I'm like, okay, you're going to spit some real woo shit. Then the beast. Like, switch up. Scientific. My hand kissed it. Robotic listed. I missed it. You probably missed it. Watch me dolly dick it. Scallywally copied to me. Rock, burn, foam, hippie, hippest, kipsy, crispy chicken, virtual, stone richie, chop the O's, sprinkle a little snow inside the Optimo. Ring the bond, micro, rap, rock and roll, tiny bowl, gung ho, pro, starski with the gum so, hit the rum slow, perot kids, live Rapunzel, really high, the vivid laser I got, jump in the Harley ride, clocks are flipping, lemon pop, bout it, bout it, Lord forgive me, Miss Sally Shop. "Tracy got shot in the face, my house was overcrowded. You fake cats done heard it first on how I shitted on your turf half-time, keep the links verse soaked, check out the rap kingpin, summertime, fine jury dripping face in the box, I seen your ear twitching soon, so I drop off," man, it don't stop. I know we got to wrap up, but if you just read this, you're like, "Oh, you was smoking dope." Rob Markman: Yeah. Some of that special dope. Some space age. Rob Markman: That's why I like the Wu, they was like, "Shit, we used to get dusted and just say shit." Yeah. Rob Markman: And to me- "Crispy chicken verse, throw up a stone, Richie chopped the old sprinkle, little snow inside the optimal." Rob Markman: He said- They crazy. Rob Markman: You know what I'm saying? He wilding out, man. Rob Markman: Hey yo, even the second verse is crazy. Yeah. Rob Markman: And you know, I think, when I think of lyrics, I think of just rap music in general. It was always like comic books to me. You go buy the CD, you pull the CD sleeve out, you're looking at who produced it, you're looking at all these characters, and now you watching the story play out. To me, this doesn't age. Every time I hear this song, it's a brand new song, because I'm like, "You really said that shit?" Rob Markman: Yeah. "You really said it?" He said, "My man got bigger diamonds, son." Rob Markman: It's a new line. It's a new line. Rob Markman: Yeah. Rob Markman: Yeah. Rob Markman: Yeah. Rob Markman: Nah, I think that's the beauty of the woo for sure, man. Especially Ghostface in particular, man. Just the way that that nigga, he'll give you six meanings for one word. One word that means six different things, dog. It's a slang meaning, he'll hit you with the literal meaning, the noun, the verb, all of that shit, bro. Rob Markman: I'm going to look at which camera we look at. Hey, listen to the Ghostface Supreme Clientele album. Classic. For real. Rob Markman: Get your education. It ain't nothing wrong with going back, man, and listening to the top 10. Listening to the foundations and shit, man. That shit is cool. Don't let people tell you that knowing shit ain't cool, bro. Being an idiot is going out of style, dog. The dumb, just oblivious- Rob Markman: You look like you got shit on your face. Rob Markman: I only know what I know from today. That's going to play out real soon because the younger, young, young kids, they looking back at all type of old shit. My niece is 14 asking me about Portishead and shit, bro. They on some other shit. Rob Markman: Yeah, they maxed out. Rob Markman: They're about to spend the block on all of the creative shit that was really cool to us in the first place, man. Get your knowledge up, man. It ain't cool to not know shit. That's real. Rob Markman: Yeah. You might as well end right there. Rob Markman: We got. I mean, that is. That's a good place. That's a good. Rob Markman: We got one voicemail. Okay. Rob Markman: We got a voicemail from a fan. Oh, yeah. Y'all got call-ins? Rob Markman: Yeah, yeah. Oh, I didn't even know we had a live call-in. Rob Markman: Headphones right there? Yeah, I'm going to do the DJ ear. I just got my hair braided. Rob Markman: I got you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Rob Markman: Yeah. Yeah. Rob Markman: Yeah. Rob Markman: Yeah. Yeah. Rob Markman: Yeah. Yeah. Rob Markman: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Rob Markman: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Rob Markman: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. - The dresses is so big, they got it in commercials. - Yeah, no he got 'em. - Or shit that don't even got nothing to do with E-40. - Right. - Yeah, he in like a just regular chicken commercial. They're like ranch, nope. Blue cheese, yup. - Oh, that's what that's from? - Yeah, that's E-40. - That's E-40. - That's E-Fizzle, bro. - I did not realize that's where-- - Monzarelli. - Fody water, man. - I did not realize that's where it came from. - That's big Fody water right there, man. - Honestly, one of the greatest rappers that ever exist. - Yeah. - I don't wanna hear no, "E-40 ain't in the top." - Nah, shut the fuck up. - Yeah, you gotta get the fuck on with that, bro. And we wanna talk about creating a slang, creating a language of his own, that's one of the godfathers right there, man. - He got a lot of, every song got 16 words I never heard of before. - 16 new words for your ass, bro. - Bro, you thought Bodie James had a lot of albums. E-40 got shit you ain't even, you forgot, you didn't even forget, 'cause you didn't know it happened. - You didn't know it happened. - And he been in the game for 40 years or whatever. - It was the first rap album I heard. - And don't got no whack verse. - Never. - Ain't never came on no track, and did nothing weak. - He said, "Izza, Izza, can I save her?" - Yeah. - "I wanna be saved." - Oh, yeah. - Yeah, see, you watching it, right? - Yeah. - See, look at him, look at him face. - Narc? - Nope. - Shark? - Shark, yup. - Yo, shout out, shout out E-40. - Narc, nope. - And shout out to Cool Kids, man. I appreciate y'all pulling up. - Oh, thanks for having us, bro. This was fun, man. - Y'all got anything y'all like to plug before we get out of here for the people? - Just stay tuned. - Yeah, man. - Just stay tuned, man. - Pay attention. - Follow us on the things, man. I know y'all hear it all the time, but that's how we can stay connected and stay in tune, man, so. - And y'all got the album. - Yeah, of course. "Gone Fishing." - "Gone Fishing." - "Gone Fishing" is out. - Yeah. - "Hot Top Fade" is out. We in the studio about to create another one, so y'all just stick around, man. Buy them physicals. Physical media, bro. Physical media is gonna save music, man, so make sure y'all just support. - Open your hands, boss. - Boss, yeah, hey, yo. - Yeah, that's what we gotta get out of here on that note. - With that, with that we gone, I appreciate y'all. - Wrap it up. - Yeah. - All right, man. - Yes, sir. - "My Favorite Lyrics" is a production by DiscoNap. If you guys like what you hear, leave a review and tell a homie about the show. And make sure to follow us at My Favorite Lyrics Pod on all social platforms, except for Twitter. We offer that. You can learn more about this week's guest and the "My Favorite Lyrics" team by checking out the show's notes, and thank you to the guys that made this show happen. Executive producer, Lauren Mandel. Producer, Carmen Kerrigan. Our editor, Nicole Lyons. Fringe Podcast. Who engineered this episode. And yeah, that's all the people that I'm gonna thank for now.

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. The host and guests reflect on the early influence of a favorite group, recalling their formative connection through MySpace and the unique "jaws on style" that stood out in the early rap scene.
  2. A re-release of an old mixtape with Don Cannon is being physically reissued on vinyl, CD, and tape, emphasizing a return to tangible, analog music formats.
  3. The artists stress the importance of authenticity and living with music rather than just consuming it, citing how the pandemic disrupted lived experiences and deepened the value of real, immersive listening.
  4. They discuss the shift in music consumption due to streaming, arguing it has diluted connection and creativity, making it harder for artists to build genuine bonds with fans.
  5. Physical media like vinyl and CDs are being rediscovered as meaningful and culturally valuable, offering a more personal and enduring experience than digital streaming.
  6. The conversation highlights the creative power of slang and storytelling in rap, using Prodigy’s verse as a prime example of vivid, cinematic, and deeply rooted urban language.
  7. The artists praise Bodie James for building an authentic, real-world narrative through his music, where stories feel lived-in and emotionally resonant.
  8. They critique the music industry’s outdated reliance on labels and remixes, noting how such traditions often fail to serve true artistic expression or audience connection.

Summary:

The podcast features a heartfelt conversation between longtime fans and artists about the evolution of music, listening habits, and creative expression. The guests reflect on how early rap culture, particularly through groups like "y'all," introduced them to a raw, authentic style rooted in real-life experiences and vivid storytelling. They emphasize the value of physical media—vinyl, CDs, and tapes—as a return to tangible, immersive music that fosters deeper connection.

The discussion explores how streaming has disrupted music consumption, reducing emotional engagement and turning listening into passive, algorithm-driven habits. The artists argue that true artistry thrives in authenticity, as seen in Prodigy’s use of deep-cut slang and Bodie James’ storytelling that feels like a lived reality. They critique the music industry’s outdated structures, like remix deals and label demands, which often prioritize commercialism over artistic integrity.

The conversation also highlights how music has become a form of cultural storytelling, where fans now seek real narratives over manufactured content. Ultimately, the hosts advocate for a return to meaningful, personal listening—where music is lived with, not just scrolled through—emphasizing that the best art emerges from authenticity, lived experience, and human connection.

FAQs

Y'all's music is known for its unique slang, deep storytelling, and vivid imagery that creates a cinematic experience. The use of regional slang like 'wibbles' and references to places like the BQE or St. Ives adds authenticity and cultural depth, making the lyrics feel lived-in and real.

The speaker credits Y'all for introducing them to a new level of lyrical creativity and storytelling. Their music helped shift the speaker's understanding of rap from just rhymes to a form of narrative art that builds immersive worlds and connects deeply with real-life experiences.

Physical media like vinyl and CDs are being rediscovered as a meaningful way to experience music. The speaker notes that physical formats offer a more intentional, immersive experience and are seen as a counterpoint to the passive, algorithm-driven nature of streaming.

The speaker sees streaming as a disruptive force that has altered how music is consumed, reducing the sense of personal connection and making it feel like a passive, repetitive experience. They believe it has diminished the emotional and cultural impact of music.

The speaker believes music will return to a more authentic, intentional form rooted in physical experience and deep storytelling. They think future music will be less about chasing virality and more about creating meaningful, personal connections through art.

The speaker believes music must be lived with—experienced in real life moments like parties or drives—rather than just consumed passively. The pandemic made it harder to live with music, as people were isolated and couldn’t fully engage with it in the way they once did.

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