Smoke Boy Andrew Wilson Crushed Again; Smokehouse Rumor Lives Another Day - Ep 168

Bob, just getting back from an Icelandic sea fishing trip. Oh, I'm sorry. That's the wrong show. No, I just got back from a wedding, guys. I got back from a wedding, and it was absolutely beautiful. A beachside wedding and family and a lot of fun. So I appreciate you guys bearing with me for a few days while I was out. I forgot how to podcast. Everything sounds weird in my ears. Took me forever to get everything lined up. So if I was a minute or two late, I do apologize, ladies and gentlemen. I do apologize. I had everything broken down before I left, and now I am back. Now I'm back. Yeah, I did get a little sun. You can see that. I got a little sun. It was blazing hot. I was in Southern California in the La Jolla, California area, and it was blazing hot. I mean, blazing hot. I was on Pacific time, not God's time. And let me tell you about Pacific time. It sucks. Everything's too early. But it did come in handy because the night after the wedding, got back to the hotel. It was still early because everything happens early. In California, everything's over by normal times. And I settled in just in time to hear Diligent Denizen absolutely dismantle Smokeboy. It wasn't even close. It was a systematic destruction. We'll go through some of it tonight. A systematic destruction of Smokeboy and his. Let me turn this delay up just a little bit. Smokeboy and his. There we go. I don't know if that's going to help or not. It might make it worse. A systematic. A systematic destruction of Smokeboy and his ludicrous decision to try to make Candace Owens somehow responsible for what everybody on Earth believes. I don't understand where it's coming from. I don't understand what the methodology behind it is. I don't understand where he's headed with it. But we will explore it. I did lose my voice a little bit. Airplanes tend to do that to me. And it was a couple of long flights. So I apologize. But I will do my best to stay. Focused and engaged, ladies and gentlemen. Focused and engaged, even though nothing's in the right spot in this room. I'm going to go through a bit of an opening, but it's a little different than an opening. It's not going to be a prescripted opening. It's more top of mind. Just on a thought I had on the airplane on the way back after listening to Smokeboy v. Diligent Denizen. You know, after you watch somebody. I actually watched that two times. I started watching it a third time today. After you watch a systematic destruction of another human being, it causes reflection in life. It causes reflection in life. And it's hard to sit back and watch somebody manhandled and not have some moment of reflection. And that's exactly what happened today. I had a moment of. Actually, on the way back on the airport last night, I had a moment of reflection. I started thinking about where this case is, what it is that people are trying to accomplish. Is there any sort of. Well, let me get into it. Let me get into it. Because this is kind of how I wanted to open. Again, I don't have any prepared script. This is all top of mind. But I find this case unusual. I find this case unusual. I've watched a lot of true crime stuff in the course of my life. I've watched the O.J. Simpson trial. I was in high school during the O.J. Simpson trial. There were very strong opinions on both sides of the O.J. Simpson issue. We had people who were convinced O.J. Simpson was guilty and still to this day remain convinced O.J. Simpson was guilty and he killed Ron Goldman and Nicole Brown. And he got away with it. Now, O.J. has since passed away. He did serve a little bit of time for stealing his own Heisman Trophy back from somebody in Las Vegas. But there are a lot of people who are upset with that verdict. A lot of people disagreed with it. They saw O.J. as sort of emblematic of a jury run amok. In this case, instead of a jury run amok convicting an innocent man, a jury run amok setting free a guilty man. I actually fall on the other side of that. I don't think O.J. did it. I think he was covering for someone he knew and loved dearly who he loved. He thinks may have done it and who I think may have done it. But if you're saying you think someone else was involved in a murder, they should sue you. Well, that's kind of what this feels like right now. It feels like there's a legal landmine being set up for everybody. The deployment of Andrew Wilson, a.k.a. Smoke Boy, a.k.a. Pickles, a.k.a. Small Forearms and Little Bitty Hands. The deployment of Andrew Wilson into this entire case really has uncapped. What it looks like to me is some sort of a legal strategy to try to trap people through debate or conversation or provocation into saying certain things that could cause them legal harm down the road. I don't understand the thought process behind that. We have a proud history in this country of news and commentary covering controversial topics. And largely, when the commentary covers those controversial topics, people give them sort of free reign to speculate, free reign to speculate. Now, if you guys remember the Nick Sandman case, do you remember that case? It was a 16-ish-year-old kid. I don't know if he was 15 or 16 or 17. Looked like he was middle high school age. He was on a class trip or some sort of trip from Kentucky. And he was visiting Washington, D.C. And while he was there, they happened upon a protest. The protest sort of spilled out of control, and it had a lot of racial overtones to it. It was back in 2020 during the Black Lives Matter, summer or somewhere near there. I don't know if it was 2020 or a couple years before that or a couple years afterwards. But there was sort of during Trump won this aura that every protest had to have a racial element. You couldn't have a protest unless it was, well, the feminist element as well, unless it was women or it was some sort of minority protest, immigrants or black people or religious minorities. Everybody had to protest Donald Trump in their own way. And every protest had to devolve into a protest against Donald Trump in some way. And so Nick Sandman, and his classmates from, I think they were from Covington, Kentucky, they happened upon some protesters or some people that were there protesting. One of them was banging a drum. And there was some, some footage that showed up. I did an opening on this, so I don't want to go too deep into it, but I did an opening on this several months ago. But the, the protesters started banging a drum. And when you watch the expanded video footage, it looked like he was sort of being the aggressor in the confrontation. Sandman did not want to get involved. He just kind of stood there and smiled. And the news media ran wild with it. They started saying he was racist, that he was the provocateur, the provocateur, whatever that means. He was the one provoking it. They started saying he was, I mean, they said all kinds of horrible, awful things about this kid. He was a private citizen, somebody who's not in the public eye, who was in high school. And all of a sudden he is sort of the face of the racist right, so to speak. And he's filed a lawsuit. And I think he got some pretty good settlements. I don't know that any of them actually went to trial. I think a lot of them settled out, settled out of court. And I think it was in the eight figure range, if I'm not mistaken, very high settlements. And a lot of people looked at that and said, that's great. Including your humble host. I thought that was, was relatively justified in that case. Here you have a private citizen who's being labeled a racist, not hinted at that. He was a racist, not asking, could this have been racially motivated? What really happened here? Are there expanded clips? Are there more video footage? Is there audio? Uh, have we talked to anyone at the scene? What do they have to say? Nothing? Nothing like that. There was no investigation to it. It was just conclusion. He's a racist. And, and so I thought in that situation, when you're a 16 year old kid and you're being branded a racist in front of the entire world, well, that's harmful to your employment prospects is harmful to your friendship prospects. Frankly, who wants to be friends with an avowed racist? Um, it's harmful to your dating prospects who wants to date or marry an avowed racist. I mean, it, it, it definitely harms your life. It, it sort of begins shrinking the available social and employment pool available to you for the rest of your life. Uh, the internet's forever. Don't forget. And so in that situation, I looked at it and thought, well, that's probably right. He should be compensated for that. They should apologize and he should be compensated, but OJ Simpson was different. OJ Simpson. A lot of people have called him a murderer. A lot of people have joked online, uh, that he's a murderer. Um, a lot of people have done comedy routines. Dave Chappelle famously did a comedy routine about the three times he met OJ Simpson. Uh, and it was hilarious by the way, Dave is, is a master of, in his, in his prime, Dave is, is one of the top, probably three to five comedians on the, on the planet right now. And it was hilarious, but the entire premise of the joke is that OJ did it, right? I mean, that, that was the premise of the joke, um, and that he's crazy and he got away with it and, and how it affected Dave Chappelle when he was in his presence on those three occasions. So did OJ Simpson run around suing everybody for suggesting he did it? No, no. Why? OJ is a public figure. Hey, it's a, it's a very high burden if you're a public figure to file a lawsuit against Dave Chappelle. I mean, he's a public figure. and I'll agree that there's a degree of problem in her life here, but how will the jury find that? And if the jury finds that she's not ultimately criminally responsible for taking their lives, does she have a cause of action against everybody who says she is? Well, I mean, would she even pursue that? I don't know. I don't know. I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't think Clancy versus Colvette or Clancy versus Sneff would be a very sexy lawsuit. I think it would be legally problematic, and beyond that, I think it would be socially problematic because it undermines the great American tradition of commenting on public crimes. It's no different than the Karen Reid trial. A lot of people said she was guilty, and then the jury found she wasn't. A lot of people wonder, does she have a cause of action against all these people? I mean, maybe, maybe. And I think that's what's happening here in this case. with Charlie Kirk, but it's taking on a little different spin because the people who are threatening to sue or talking about suing are not Tyler Robinson. Tyler Robinson, for his part, has said nothing about anything, nor has his family. They've been very quiet, very mum behind the scenes and in public. Rather, it's the hangers-on. It's the people around. It's the people that you would have never heard of but for Charlie Kirk. It's the Andrew Colvettes, the Blake Neffs, the Erica Kirks, and frankly, Erica, despite your desire to be famous your entire life, nobody knew who you were until he died. Not very many people. Maybe a few people that knew Charlie and just knew who his wife was, just like people who know me personally and know who my wife is. But my wife is very much not a public figure. She doesn't come on camera. She doesn't have a blog. She doesn't have social media. She's private. She raises her kids. And, you know, for better or worse, that's what she does. And it's those people. It's those hangers-on. It's the people in the periphery. And the question becomes, do we have the right to speculate? Do we have the right to ask any questions? Or is any question at all become a grounds for a cause of action? Take the Brian Harpoel versus Candace Owens suit. I mean, it's pretty cut and dry that if you're hired to protect somebody and they die, you necessarily failed in your duty to protect them. Now, whether the duty was your fault, legal fault, or whether your duty was some sort of moral fault, that's to be determined by somebody else, but simply stating the fact that you were hired, I always mentioned the barbecue guy. If I hire a guy to do barbecue and he doesn't show up at my house with barbecue, he necessarily failed. Now, he might've gotten a car accident. Someone may have stolen the barbecue. The barbecue may have burned. Maybe his barbecue shed burned down the night before. But the reality is I hired him for one job and he failed. He did not deliver barbecue. That's kind of the situation with the security team and Charlie Kirk. They had one job. Their job was to keep Charlie Kirk very much alive. And that job didn't happen. They didn't keep him alive. He did not leave the arena alive or the, uh, the menorah, whatever it was. He didn't leave alive. So what about the other people? What about other people whose names tangentially come up in this investigation? I'm thinking of, um, obviously the, the owners of smokehouse barbecue or the, the servers at smokehouse barbecue. There's been a lot of discussion and we'll talk about it tonight. Whether or not Tyler Robinson was in Penguich or, uh, or, uh, Penguich, Utah. Was he in Penguich, Utah? Between 18 and 19. I think 45 and, or 8:55 and 9:47 PM on, um, on September 10th, obviously if he was, that's problematic to the state's timeline. If he wasn't, it really doesn't have any impact on the guilt or innocence of Tyler Robinson at all. It doesn't add a fact or detract a fact. It doesn't tend to make him more guilty. It doesn't tend to make him more innocent. If it can be proven, he actually wasn't there at all. He was somewhere else entirely. And so why is everyone getting all been out of shape about this issue? Um, I'm going to play. A lot of clips tonight from a debate he had with diligent denizen a couple of nights ago. And in that, I didn't count the number, but, but I think Andrew Wilson used the words official timeline, like 4,000 times or something, it was some obscene number of times, not really, it's probably a hundred times. Um, but what is it about this official timeline? Why does anyone care what Candace Owens has in her private file and what it's titled, whether it's titled official timeline or unofficial timeline or potential timeline or probable timeline. Why did, why does anyone care what the dadgum timeline is scheduled, uh, is, is titled? Well, the reason they care is because, um, I think because someone wants to get lawsuit happy, the best way to shut somebody up is to make them poor, poor people don't have as loud of a voice, uh, Candace Owens has done very well for herself as a commentator. She's accumulated a lot of resources. She makes a lot of money and she should, she's very good at her job, but if you take that money away from her. All the money that advertisers have given her all the money that, um, that people have donated to the cause. If you take that away and you transfer it over to some other entity, some other organization, it will necessarily lessen her ability to continue producing quality content, to continue investigating things. She's not only investigated the Charlie Kirk case, her public life. She's investigated a whole lot of things and she's done a pretty darn good, a pretty darn good job at it. So that's kind of number one, it seems like they want to, to side silence people. Seems like they want to quiet the crowd either through lawsuit or threat of lawsuit, but it's interesting to me, which items they key in on, which items they key in on. They're very much keyed in right now on this Penguich smokehouse visit, the, the cowboy smokehouse visit. There's a, there's very much a key point of contention right now. Well, the reason may be because they know he wasn't there. And so this is an easy victory. You know, we have proof he wasn't there. Let's let's make a big deal out of it so that when it turns out, he wasn't there. Everybody looks foolish. They have egg on their face. Okay. That's kind of number one. But number two is it could be because it absolutely matters because if Tyler Robinson was there and they don't know whether he was there, but if he was there, it creates a real problem for their timeline. That's an option as well. Both options are on the table because right now we don't know. We have an eyewitness who says he was there. And we have a lot of people who through no eyewitness testimony at all think he had to be somewhere else. Okay. Well, let's let the chips fall where they may. Let's wait until the evidence comes out. Let's see what happened. So that's one thing they've keyed in on, but they've keyed in on a few other things. If you notice very early on in this investigation or several months ago, many, many months ago, there was a question about whether Erica, where Erica Kirk was on the night of September 8th, night of September 8th, we had an eyewitness who places her in Southern Arizona near Fort Huachuca. Well, if she's at Fort Huachuca on September 8th, that's problematic because she's denied being at Fort Huachuca on September 8th. So again, now it's an issue, but they've keyed in on it. They attempted to provide some photographic evidence, but it turns out that photography was from the next morning, or at least it was dated the next morning. So it didn't really answer the question of where were you on September 8th. I think through a lawyer, maybe she said in a letter to Project Constitution, if I recall correctly, one of her lawyers, either a male or a female, I don't remember the name of the lawyer, we'll call it a she because I don't remember, but she said that Erica absolutely was not there and was not anywhere near there at that time. Okay. That's a data point. Fair point. But that's another thing they'd keyed in on. Another thing they keyed in on was where was Andrew Colvette at the moment of the Big Bang? Was he in his house like he claimed, or was he on an airport tarmac in Santa Barbara getting ready to leave to go to Scottsdale instead of Provo? His official story is he flew directly to Provo with his wife on a later flight. But there was that mysterious earlier flight, and it doesn't seem to have any reason for being in Santa Barbara and then going to Scottsdale. Why was he on that earlier flight? Who was on that flight? Why did that flight exist? It obviously took TPSA people from Scottsdale up to Provo in the morning, and then it went Provo to Santa Barbara, Santa Barbara back to Scottsdale just in time to catch another flight from Scottsdale to Provo. So it raised the question, and that's another thing they chose to address. There's been a whole lot of things in this case they've not chosen to address. They haven't talked about it at all. Where's the Rode microphone? No one's talked about where the Rode microphone is. That's not something they want to discuss. Where's the audio? They don't want to answer the question, where's the audio? Did Terrell Farnsworth alter or somehow change the photography that was in the camera behind Charlie Kirkwood? They haven't talked about that. They haven't talked about that at all. Where was Blake Neff that morning? He said he doesn't know, and they've never mentioned it again. So there are a lot of things they haven't talked about. These are serious questions. A lot of people have raised these questions. They've asked these questions, and they've not been discussed. It's the ones that they key in on. It's the ones that they provide some sort of an explanation to that raise my suspicion. Primarily because in each instance, each of these things I've named, the September 8th whereabouts of Erica Kirk, the September 10th whereabouts of Andrew Colvette, whether or not Tyler Robinson was at the Penguin Smokehouse, and finally, one more that they raised. What was it? It was one more thing they raised. Oh, the text messages the night before Charlie Kirk passed away. Allegedly, he has sent some text messages saying he was scared the left was going to kill him. Well, each of these things that they've addressed, they've chosen not to address themselves. They've gotten it out through third parties, and that's important. That's an important part of this analysis. Why would you put something out through a third party when you could just release it yourself? Andrew Colvette has a very active X feed. He's the press person for TPSA. He could easily put out a press release. They do that all the time. They put press releases out. They put stuff up on their website. They put stuff out on X. Why would he put it out? put it out through a home improvement blog. blogger or some failed podcaster or some failed debater? Why would you put stuff out through these people instead of just releasing it yourself? Well, you're creating a buffer between you and the information. I've got the information here. Now I'm putting a third party in between the release of that information and me. You guys are out here. You'll get the information, but it won't come directly from us. It's going to come through a home improvement blogger for some reason. It's going to come through some failed debate strategist for some reason. That some reason has my mind absolutely reeling. I've never seen this before in practice. I'm not familiar with this game. I can't ascribe any kind of motive or strategy behind it. It doesn't make sense to me. The only thing I can say is because it's so unusual, it makes me wonder if there's something nefarious to it. That's an opinion. That's an opinion. In this country, we still have a right to an opinion for right now. We're allowed to state opinions. I'm allowed to state an opinion that I find Erica Kirk a pretty dishonest individual when you look at her biography, her statements, what I think are demonstrably false statements. So I have a basis for saying that I think she's dishonest, but I find her to be a dishonest person. That's an opinion. Am I calling her a liar? Well, I mean, even if I'm calling her a liar, it's my opinion that she's a liar. Okay. Well, I have an opinion that there was an airplane that flew from San Francisco. I don't know if it's a plane. I don't know who was on it. And I also know that Andrew Colvette had a prerecord for the second hour of the Charlie Kirk show that day. So he would have been available to be on that plane. I think it's reasonable to ask if he was on that plane, particularly in light of Candace Owens saying that Andrew Colvette told her, Andrew Colvette told Candace Owens that he had a hug on a tarmac with Erica Kirk. Now, maybe Candace is lying. Maybe Candace is mistaken. I don't believe that's the case. I have faith in what she says. So I believe he said that to her. And I believe she accurately relayed that to us. And if so, that's the only time I could put them on a tarmac together. I can't put them on a tarmac anywhere else. So was he on that earlier flight? Well, I have an opinion he might have been. Does that mean I'm stating that Andrew Colvette was in on a murder? No, no. It means I'm raising the suspicion that he could be. He could be. a lot of people could be, right? We've asked this question about a lot of people. Could they have been ahead of the game? Could they have known something was coming? Well, is that calling someone a criminal? No. No, it's not. I've never said that anyone has been in on this. I haven't claimed that the military was in on it. I haven't claimed that the federal government was in on it. I haven't claimed anybody's in on it. I've asked a lot of questions, some of them very hard questions, and some of them have a lot of factual basis for me to want to ask the question. I think the question should be answered. But I'm intrigued by this new strategy of release stuff through failed podcasters, release stuff through failed home improvement bloggers, release stuff through failed debate strategists, in order to try to counter the narrative. Well, color me shocked if I don't believe this stuff. I'm not saying these people are lying, but, I mean, I don't believe that the story is as simple, cut and dry on its face if it was, stand behind it and say it with your chest. Release the statement yourself. We'll look at a legal letter tonight that was sent from some health care company stating that Erica and her mom were together at this place. Okay, great. You know, that's fine. I have no issues with the letter at all. My issue is why did it come through a failed debate strategist who purportedly does not work for TPSA? He claims he doesn't. So what's he doing? What's he doing with his letter? And why is he the one that was chosen to release it? So I want to get into some of this stuff. I want to run through some of these failed debate tactics in trying to dispute the Penguich narrative. And I also want to run through some of these. I want to run through the letter. But first, tomorrow we have a big hearing. The big hearing tomorrow. It's the finality of the hearing. The preliminary hearing will come to a close tomorrow. I don't expect there to be any new. I don't expect there to be any new evidence. I think that would be shocking. Now, it's possible we'll get a line or two, maybe an additional text that has been submitted in evidence but has not yet been released to the public and it will come out in the summation. That's possible. It's possible we could get a line or two, new line from the medical autopsy, the examination that took place after Charlie passed. It's possible we'll hear something from that. But the likelihood is we've already heard all the evidence or the vast majority of the evidence. I don't rule out that we could get some new stuff tomorrow. We'll have to listen carefully as it's going on. It's scheduled to start tomorrow at 10, 10, 8, excuse me, 11 a.m. God's time, 10 a.m. Mountain Time, 9 Pacific and 1 p.m. Eastern Time. That's when it's scheduled to start. Excuse me, 12 p.m. Eastern Time. Don't worry about the time. Just let's go on God's time, 11 a.m. God's time. I think each side gets a couple hours. I think it would be overkill if they took the whole two hours, but they get it. You know, it's their time. So assuming they get, two hours and a break and two hours, you're probably looking somewhere in the neighborhood of four and a half or five hours total. So if it starts at 11 a.m. God's time, you're probably looking for 3.30, 4 o'clock it would end in time for the evening podcast to sort of pick it apart. So I'll be watching it closely tomorrow to see what happens and if there's anything new that comes out and if there's anything that just has to be discussed. I'm not going to do some live commentary all day tomorrow. I don't think that's a valuable use of my time during the day when I'm trying to put a show together for tomorrow night. The timing is interesting. Erica Kirk's lawyer several months ago, a month or two ago, filed a notice with the judge or filed a motion with the judge saying, I want you to rule on September 1st. At the time, we didn't know what to make of that. That was a very strange request. Who are you? You're not a party. You're a victim representative. You represent the victim who's passed away and you're the wife. So, you know, under Utah law, we give you a say in what's going on. But why are you ordering the judge around? And it was, it was very, very Kirk, very to the point. At the time, I didn't know what to make of it, but now it makes perfect sense. We have the one-year anniversary coming up on September 10th. That's 10 days or 11 days from today. TPSA has morbidly chosen to go celebrate this event at UVU, the site of the crime, not in the menorah itself. They're going to be in the basketball arena next door, but that's where they've chosen to go celebrate the one-year anniversary. I think Glenn Beck is scheduled to be there. I don't know. I don't know who else is scheduled to speak. But it makes sense to me that they want a ruling in advance of that. Because once you get that ruling, you can pretty much take the heat off of, of this notion that he's innocent until proven guilty. They're going to just come out at that point. I think everybody is and be like, well, the judge found he did it. Well, that's not exactly the case. Very low bar to a preliminary hearing. Very low bar, all evidence viewed in light, most favorable to the state. Certainly not the standard at trial. The jury is free to draw inferences in favor of either party at trial. They don't have to draw inferences in favor of the state. They don't have to draw inferences in favor of the defendant. They can draw inferences in favor of either side. Not so at the preliminary hearing. All evidence must be viewed in light, most favorable to the state. And so it's a low bar. It's a low bar. I think it would be shocking, frankly, if Judge Graff did not bind this over to a trial. I think it would truly shock me. I do think the state, I think the state met their burden, frankly. I had a lot of questions about a lot of the evidence, but these are questions that would go towards weight, not sufficiency. The weight of the evidence, not the sufficiency of the evidence. And weight is determined by a trier fact. It's going to be determined by the jury. So that, I think the suspense is already taken out of it. I think the state probably met their burden. I think the judge probably in all likelihood will bind it over for trial. The question is, how is that going to be spun in the media? And you know it will be spun. Any organization who put influencers in that courtroom on the fifth day of the preliminary hearing and watched them go out and, in my opinion, misrepresent what they saw on the screen is probably an organization that's planning to sort of spin the results of the judge binding this over for trial. At that point, it'll take, I don't know, 12, 18, 24 months to actually get to trial. At that point, though, I think Tyler Robinson's in really grave danger, really grave danger. Something happens to Tyler between now and tomorrow. The world will never know whether the judge would have bounded over trial or not. Preliminary hearing is not over. After tomorrow, we'll know or probably know after a few days, we'll probably know. The judge in all likelihood will bind it over for trial. And in a lot of people's minds, that's equivalent of a conviction. It's equivalent of a conviction. And so we will see how they play this, I anticipate them going really hard on the Tyler did it narrative after you think they've gone hard on it so far. Friends, friends, wait, wait, wait. They absolutely. They absolutely will go even harder. But other than that, I don't expect many fireworks. I think it'll be pretty straightforward. I don't think it'll be particularly, particularly crazy. Now, let's go to Penguich real quick. I want to spend some time on this Penguich issue, the cowboy smokehouse issue, and I want to do it in the context of the the pending lawsuits, the threatened lawsuits, and smoke. Smoke Boy's absolute crash out the other night. It was embarrassing. You'll see what I'm talking about. So cringeworthy. So cringeworthy, him talking about this official narrative, this official timeline. And keep in mind, I did not mark every single piece of use of the word official timeline. No, I kept a lot of this out on the sidelines. So let's go to the first use of this here because you'll get a taste of what this entire interaction was about. You'll get a real taste of why it was that I think Andrew Wilson came into this space trying to have a debate or a conversation with Diligent Denison. All right, let me get this pulled up. You're going to like this. This is going to be a good use of your time. If I do say so myself. All right, we've got a short clip here just to introduce the official timeline narrative, what it is that he's trying to say. Why would I try to tell you to believe something that I have no way of confirming? So that first voice you hear is a guy named Diligent Denison. He is a citizen journalist, an independent journalist. He's been working on this case a long time. He has spent weeks and weeks and weeks on the ground in Utah making relationships, interviewing people, videoing the scene, you know, taking photographs of the scene. That's his voice. So I just want to kind of familiarize yourself. If you're not accustomed to spaces, it's typically a train wreck. This one went mostly okay. Right. So then why? That other voice you hear is Smoke Boy. You can hear the nicotine stains in his voice. What you can't hear is pickle juice because he can't get the jar open. You can't, you're never going to hear pickle juice on his voice. Would it ever be a part of an official timeline? But you just, you, but you're, you're trying. Would it be a part of an official timeline? Are you going to let me answer your question or not? They answer the question I asked you. Why would it be part of an official timeline? You don't, you don't dictate what I say. All right, I'm going to, I'm going to mute up whenever he's done. Why would it be part of an official timeline then? Anybody know what he wants an answer to? The question is about Candace's use of the word official timeline to describe her sort of, you know, sequence of events that she's investigating. One of the things on that sequence of events is did Tyler Robinson go to Panguitch, Utah at 847 or 855 PM to 947 PM to enjoy a delicious steak at the, a well-respected establishment like Cowboy Smokehouse? That's the question. Did he go? If so, why? And what, what effect does that have on the case? Smokeboy is asking this question. Why would it be on an official timeline? In other words, it's disputed. Whether or not he went. And if it's disputed, whether or not he went, why would you put it on an official timeline? Well, who, you know, who cares what she calls it? Who cares what she calls it? I'm going to make that a little smaller since there's no actual video you have to watch. Here is the second little exchange on this very same topic. Let's try this again. If it's the case that that's unconfirmed, which it is, why is it that that would be a part of an official timeline diligent? Please answer the question. Is, is witness testimony considered evidence in a court case, Andrew? Of course. Okay. And so. That's an important point. Diligent raised is witness testimony considered evidence because they keep saying there's no evidence. He was at Penguich that night. Well, we have an eyewitness diligent, went down there and interviewed a server who checked him out, who took his credit card, who came and filled his drink a couple of times that eyewitness said he is one. 100% certain he was serving Tyler Robinson. He recognized his face. He recognizes very distinctive voice and he's 100% certain that was Tyler Robinson. And he just smoke. Boy just admitted that's evidence. So you can't say there's no evidence. He was at Penguich. There is evidence. He was at Penguich. The question is, was he at Penguich? Is the evidence sufficient to prove he was at Penguich? Not, is there evidence at all? Of course there's evidence. He just admitted. If a witness swears that they 100% ID Tyler Robinson, not only visually, but mostly by his voice, right? Is that evidence or no? In a court case? Of course. Okay. And so out of all of the evidence or out of all of the Tyler Robinson cases, as a matter of fact, is there any individuals, any eyewitnesses that say they 100% ID Tyler Robinson that day at all? Um, that we're aware of like, you mean on the, we had five days of hearings, right? Five days of hearings. Yeah. Yeah. Is there, is there, was there one person who testified that they a hundred percent ID Tyler Robinson? Just one in the, no, in the hearings? No, no. Okay. So what you're, what you just admitted was, is that, uh, I, I, you know, diligent denizen, uh, with the help of Candace Owens providing the lead have provided the only witness who says that they. ID Tyler Robinson, 100%. And that's a fact. That's a fact. Only one person in this entire case has 100% identified Tyler Robinson, not even Tyler Robinson's roommate. 100% ID Tyler Robinson as being in Orem, Utah. So the only 100% identification that anybody's willing to stand by anyone's willing to put their reputation on the line is a, I, I server at Cowboys smokehouse. 100%. 100% promise. I believe with all my heart that I saw Tyler Robinson. He's the only one who claims with 100% certainty. He saw Tyler Robinson, every single other person hedged the police officer, hedged officer, whole officer Bagley. They all hedged. Well, I'm not sure it looks like him. We believe it's him. We think it's him. Even his own roommate was like, well, he wears jeans. That guy's wearing jeans. He has shoes. That guy's wearing shoes. He's. He's got an affinity for sunglasses. That guy's wearing sunglasses. He wears hats. He's a big hat guy. See him in pictures all the time. He's wearing hats. That guy's wearing a hat. Yeah. I'd say it's him. I think at least in those last two pictures, it looks like, well, what about the other four? There were six pictures. Only two of them kind of look like him and solely based on his accoutrements. Come on, come on. So we have evidence that Tyler Robinson was in Penguich, Orem, uh, Penguich, Utah, a hundred percent evidence. Or at least a guy who 100% IDed him, is that enough? Is that enough to include on an official timeline? Well, let's go back to smoke boy. We'll find out. For the court to decide. Yeah. I'm asking you, do you agree with me that it's unverified? Of course. Yeah. Not that it's unverified, then if it's unverified, why would that be a part of an official timeline? Knowing that it's unverified. Can you answer that question? In other words, just because there's a human being who interacted with this guy for an hour and 100% believes the person he interacted with was Tyler Robinson. Why would Candace Owens put this in her notes? I mean, that's the best I can make of this discussion. I have no, I mean, it's, it's unreal how fixated he is on this official timeline jargon. It's unreal, but it's telling, it's telling why? Because why? Why would he be doing this, but for trying to set up some sort of a lawsuit? I think that's Andrew Wilson's entire purpose is to try to set up some sort of a lawsuit against Candace Owens, and he's using this phrase official timeline to try to get there. So when you say official. All right, I skipped ahead a second, but listen here. So when you say official timeline as a diligent denizen timeline, who's official timeline are you talking about? Candace Owens, the person that I'm falsifying. What is she an official of? Well, included in her timeline, when I asked her during the debate, isn't it the case that you have, have added this as an official timeline, even though it's completely unconfirmed and there's no actual good evidence for this at all. Except for a witness testimony. Zero. That's not. Yeah, no good evidence to include on your official timeline, ma'am. Your private timeline on your own MacBook. How dare you? How dare you, madam? Pregnant mother of four. Use the word official. At the top of your Google doc. That's where we are in this case. The other side is exercised about the fact that Candace Owens has titled this official timeline instead of unofficial timeline or personal timeline or my timeline of events. The fact that she calls it official somehow offends this man. And I think that's because they're trying to set up some sort of a lawsuit. Well, you just admitted that was evidence. If you admit that witness testimony is often wrong. But it's not always wrong. And there's nothing and there's nothing to corroborate it in this case. And there isn't. And there's lots of reason to not believe it, which there is. Why is it that you would add it to an official timeline? Diligent, please answer the question. You just said that it was Candace's timeline and not the official timeline. Yes, her official timelines. Her official timeline. I am. I'm just angry beyond angry. That she has called this the official timeline. without evidence, except for the guy who 100 swears pinky swears double extra swears that he saw tyler robinson at the cowboy smokehouse in penguich utah other than that there's no evidence and we're going to disregard that because sometimes eyewitnesses are wrong we know what's happened there have been people convicted on eyewitness testimony and then supreme court later comes back and looks at some dna or some sort of other evidence and they say well he couldn't have done it he wasn't there no that's not his dna he wasn't guilty and he was they know the guy was convicted on eyewitness testimony so we have we have actual evidence that eyewitness testimony is not 100 foolproof but there's no court in america that if you claim to have witnessed an event is going to prevent you from testifying because they'll say that's not evidence well my friends not only is that evidence a lot of juries consider that the best evidence you could get bill saw him do it bill you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you a lot of juries considered that the best evidence you could get bill saw him do it bill saw him do it bill saw him do it bill he waited on him i don't know what the server's name is nick bill steve i don't know what his name is nick bill steve i don't know what his name is nick bill steve i don't know what his name is bill saw him do it bill saw him do it bill saw him do it that's the best evidence you could possibly that's the best evidence you could possibly that's the best evidence you could possibly get that's oftentimes get that's oftentimes get that's oftentimes to juries more reliable than camera to juries more reliable than camera to juries more reliable than camera footage footage footage people think camera footage can be people think camera footage can be messed with maybe we don't have the right angle i'm referencing why do you keep using the word official when she's not an official what is she an official of she's an official of her own time so that's her he said that with a straight face she's an official of her own timeline well i'll be i had no idea i have a timeline daisy put together a nice timeline we use it often we reflect on it frequently we're constantly adding stuff to it we highlight different things different colors depending on how sure we are something happened if uh i think this one is actually highlighted in yellow whether or not he was in oram utah because i mean penguin utah because we're not sure we're not sure but it's on the timeline does that mean we're somehow liable to somebody for saying we have an official timeline that's a very strange nitpicky position and and lest you think why am i playing all these clips of him saying official timeline wait till i get to the end wait till i get to the end because he said it so many times that you have to believe there's some sort of lawsuit reason for him saying this opinion then right it's her official timeline which she produces to people as though it happened even though it's completely unverified she disseminates her opinion on her personal show and for that reason ladies and gentlemen we're going to call her bad candace you can't produce your opinion tell me what you can't just tell people you believe things you're not allowed to have an opinion in america not in trump's america no no you're not allowed to have your own opinion uh ladies and gentlemen we continue questions would you do you think that it's wise to add this to an official timeline knowing that it's unverified there's tons of reasons to not believe it we have no problem that it was a candace time we have no time i'm asking about her timeline i will say this if anyone is ever held liable in a court of law in some sort of defamation suit or some sort of some other cause of action because the notes in their computer say official on it instead of unofficial or personal or probable or my belief my opinion my opinion timeline if anyone in this country is ever held liable because in their own notes it's unverified it says official at the top of it or they casually refer to their timeline as let's go to my official timeline let's look i will lose all faith in this country not in the judicial system the country as a whole i will lose all faith in the the idea of america all faith all right now we're going to jump ahead a little way we're only 15 minutes into the discussion we're going to take about 30 minutes off not because they didn't talk about official timelines but just because i got bored playing the same stuff over and over and over and over and over it got repetitive so let's go forward to 4340 on the so then again all we're left with then at all of this is that it's unconfirmed that tyler robinson was at the steakhouse so why is it in an official timeline it's unconfirmed whether or not tyler robinson killed charlie kirk i like diligent denizen let me say something about diligent denizen i bet you he's been in thousands of spaces and he talks a lot and that's not a knock on him that's just me objectively stating facts he is not afraid to talk in the next space if you've never been in an x space now's not the time to go they're they're total chaos but for the few brave souls who go into these x spaces and take the microphone i was on one for five hours the other night answering any question anybody asked no pre-screening no anything anybody that wanted to chime in and ask a question as long as the guy uh i think it was uncle tom hosting but as long as the guy uh was and i'm not calling him uncle tom as a slur that's you can see at the top left of the screen there that's what he goes by um as long as tom handed the person the microphone i answered any questions some of them were hard questions some of them were hard questions they were not all softballs but diligent denizen has been doing this for literally thousands of hours maybe maybe ten thousand hours of online twitter debates anyone who thinks they can walk in and roll all over them because there's some sort of debate expert because they go and they they they they go after some of girls on on some cheeseball podcast and they think they could just roll over diligent in an x space is out of their minds this guy was boy he's been training his whole life for this moment i can't think of anybody better prepared for this moment than denizen all right i'm going to go forward just a little bit more i thought i thought we agreed that she said it was not official no she told me in our debate that that is her official time i said it multiple times her timeline yes but i believe she said my timeline that's what people are going off of is you're you're the one that is presented as you keep using this buzzword official you're asserting it you insert it right officially daisy were you telling me to turn the volume down on the on the on me or on the uh video oh it's fine you know what happens when a woman says it's fine that means it's not fine i'm turning the volume down on the video apparently i mean listen you can't accept it's fine that's not acceptable so can we agree that official means like a government body institutional like an institution it just means uh it just means usually when official official means like i am the official ambassador for bud light right like i am officially they are being me as their official ambassador it would be it would describe something that's backed by an organization government or leader or leader in this case candace owens is a uh i've never heard her describe herself as an official well i didn't say that she she doesn't need to she's a leader now we get to the meat this is what it's about this is what it's about they're trying to alex jones her they're trying to suggest that when candace says here's my official timeline and there's an entry on that timeline that from a uh 8 55 to 9 47 has tyler robinson in panguitch utah at the cowboy smokehouse that anything that happens to the cowboy smokehouse anybody harasses them anybody fresh gets frustrated them anybody that leaves a negative review anybody who's remotely upset whatsoever with this notion that tyler robinson might have been there it's candace's fault candace needs to be held responsible you see what they're setting up here this is what i mean by i don't know what his role is apart from this that's what they're setting up they're setting up the idea that these all these private businesses that candace has mentioned along the way um what was the name of the uh uh there was some business along i don't want to start naming businesses but i don't want to start naming businesses but there's some business very early businesses but there's some business very early businesses but there's some business very early on she mentioned a couple of times in on she mentioned a couple of times in on she mentioned a couple of times in passing there were some people that passing there were some people that passing there were some people that worked there the fact that she mentioned them if the fact that she mentioned them if the fact that she mentioned them if anybody took any action anybody who anybody took any action anybody who anybody took any action anybody who watched her show picked up the phone watched her show picked up the phone watched her show picked up the phone and called them and said are you guys and called them and said are you guys and called them and said are you guys involved in this business did you did involved in this business did you did involved in this business did you did anyone on earth even if you've never had anyone on earth even if you've never had anyone on earth even if you've never had contact with them even if you've told contact with them even if you've told contact with them even if you've told them don't do this even if you've um them don't do this even if you've um them don't do this even if you've um could not possibly have foreseen could not possibly have foreseen could not possibly have foreseen that this might happen the fact that that this might happen the fact that that this might happen the fact that millions of people watched a podcast or millions of people watched a podcast or millions of people watched a podcast or hundreds of thousands of people watched hundreds of thousands of people watched hundreds of thousands of people watched a podcast a podcast a podcast and five of them and five of them and five of them ten of them picked up the phone and ten of them picked up the phone and ten of them picked up the phone and called somebody or left a negative called somebody or left a negative called somebody or left a negative review online or did something else review online or did something else review online or did something else that is somehow her fault but the the that is somehow her fault but the the that is somehow her fault but the the connection is so tenuous we have to connection is so tenuous we have to connection is so tenuous we have to invent something we have to invent invent something we have to invent invent something we have to invent something because obviously candace has something because obviously candace has something because obviously candace has never said you should call these people never said you should call these people never said you should call these people you should hold them accountable you you should hold them accountable you you should hold them accountable you should try to contact them you should should try to contact them you should should try to contact them you should harass them you should leave negative harass them you should leave negative harass them you should leave negative reviews these people are like she's reviews these people are like she's reviews these people are like she's never said any of this never said any of this never said any of this and so traditional defamatory law is and so traditional defamatory law is and so traditional defamatory law is not going to provide any relief not going to provide any relief not going to provide any relief enter the official timeline enter the official timeline enter the official timeline i think that's where this official i think that's where this official i think that's where this official timeline notion comes from i think that's timeline notion comes from i think that's timeline notion comes from i think that's why they're so why they're so why they're so bent out of shape over the fact that she bent out of shape over the fact that she bent out of shape over the fact that she calls it calls it calls it an official timeline or it was a i don't don't even know that she's ever said that maybe it's just been on the sheet when she pulls it up it says official timeline at the top but an official timeline doesn't mean anything if it's just candace's personal official timeline but if she's the leader of an organization now we've got a problem on our hands that's what they're trying to say now we've got a problem on our hands because she knows as the leader of this organization that these people might do something and she will ultimately be responsible for them because she is the leader of the organization we jokingly call this organization the candace intelligence agency the cia the decentralized investigation a lot of people call it this is probably the largest real-time decentralized investigation in history that i'm aware of you have literally thousands of people who all day every day investigate this crime turning over leads calling people asking questions making contacts you know uh just in the last week i took several days off last week just in the last week i took several days off last week just in the last week i took several days off just in the last week i've had an opportunity to return a lot of phone calls that have been hanging out there that i haven't had an opportunity to call people back and i'm hearing crazy stuff not crazy in a bad way but crazy and like oh my gosh i had no idea these parts of the investigation were so far what long people sitting in living rooms with people adjacent to this organism to this investigation and making good contacts and getting good information i'm not talking about just one or two people i'm talking about dozens of people people i i sat on a call the other day and took notes for i don't know what was it 15 or 20 minutes of somebody telling me all the different people they had talked to all the different people they had researched all the different connections to the characters in this case that's what they're afraid of they're not mad at candace i'm not a candace i mean candace just has a podcast she's just giving her opinion they're mad at you but they can't go after you and then they can't possibly go after all of you you're not public figures you probably don't have much money to give them and then you know you seem like greedy sobs right they wanted shut down candace they think if they can shut her down the entire investigation goes away and they can get away with whatever they want not just now but in the future so the big problem with this this investigation is it lets them know that in the future they can't pull this off again you can't do this twice if hundreds of people are going to tune in on a daily basis for a solid year and tens and tens of thousands of people are going to tune into these x spaces this x space that i'm playing right now was 14 hours long it ended at like 4 a.m on sunday morning i listened to a lot of it and got up the next morning went to mass on three and a half hours of sleep i figured i'll sleep on the plane i was keyed in i was listening i do this a lot i listen to a lot of these spaces i listen anonymously guys you don't know i'm in there and i hear you bad mouthing me from time to time that's okay no hard feelings no hard feelings no hard feelings i get it this is this is there's a lot going on in here there's a lot going on in this investigation and everybody has an opinion i'm fine with that i'm fine with that i have people defaming me on a daily basis these people send it to me oh can you believe he said this about you and you're looking it's patently false am i gonna go sue over it no no that's nonsense all right let me um let me flash forward just a little bit now that we know the reason candace is a leader of an organization and as a result she is somehow responsible for everything done by any member of that organization i think that's where this is headed i think this is the theory the legal theory that they want to use to support this cause of action so let me keep going you are trying to assert that candace is responsible for all of these people that you placed in an organization underneath of her correct she's the leader i'm only saying that she's responsible for what she says and her official time line as a leader so if she's only official timeline as a leader no no no no no no i don't want to spill the beans now i don't want to let you know that we're going to try to hold her responsible for absolutely everything that's ever been done i just want you to know she's a leader and she's calling this an official timeline and that's sending a certain message to all her followers in this organization they're creating a fictitious entity as if this is some sort of a a legal entity through which she is pushing forward driving this harassment driving this campaign now let me let me back up well is it here i don't want to say it let me go ahead and say it i don't want to forget to say it undergirding this entire discussion is this idea that defamation law should somehow apply to candace's timeline i don't want to forget to say it i don't want to forget to say it to the to the to this particular entry on candace's timeline in other words you candace saying tyler robinson went to the smokehouse in oram if you don't have i mean in a language if you don't have a good basis for saying that you should somehow be held liable as if it's defamatory defamation is when you say he stole a steak he left without paying he's a criminal and that would be tyler that would have a cause of action against you or you could say he stole a steak and he left without paying you say while tyler was there the the good people of of cowboy smokehouse committed some crime against him well that would be defamatory towards them clearly and they didn't for for the record all accounts are it's an amazing place people should go visit they should order the food they should leave a good review they should do the things they do at any restaurant treat treat them like normal stuff don't don't harass people we've said that from the beginning on here let's just just leave people alone but i reject that premise it is not defamatory to say someone ate a steak i had half of a steak today anyone who comments on it is not saying anything bad about me they're just saying i had dinner mrs coleman provided a nice steak i ate it with some garlic cauliflower and brussels sprouts it was phenomenal by the way it was spectacular cooked a perfect medium rare right at about 118 degrees absolutely flawless but even if you said it was a now i mean even if i didn't have a steak and you said i had a steak that's not defamatory nothing defamatory about saying tyler robinson might have been there there's nothing defamatory about that at all defamatory is when you say something that's not true and there's some sort of a uh an illegality or some sort of a bad moral quality to what you're saying i'm accusing you of doing something wrong when you didn't do anything wrong i'm i'm reducing your reputation in the eyes of the community if anything i'm improving his reputation i'm suggesting he might not have killed someone you can't get better than that now you can't possibly say something better about somebody and in terms of the steakhouse all we're saying is they serve steaks steaks so delicious someone might drive three hours to get one i mean that's the reputation of this place you're in a room all day and you get hungry and you're like oh my god i'm gonna eat this steak i'm gonna eat this steak and you think i'm not gonna eat around here not when there's a penguin smokehouse three hours away i gotta get there if anything we're elevating the smokehouse in the eyes of the community we're saying they serve delicious steaks what's wrong with that absolutely nothing all right i continue i just had to get that out because i had it i had in my notes to say it but i didn't remember when i wanted to say it uh so we're actually getting done with this believe it or not we're getting close to the end of him talking about the steakhouse three hours away he's talking about the official timeline would you believe he keeps going though it's part of her official timeline it's not an assertion she's saying it's not an official timeline if she says okay let me just okay she literally says i got the clips okay so she says this this happened is what she's saying this is in fact the case this is what happened she said she said it's a witness she said that it was her official timeline yes many times including during our debate dude during the debate did she say that she was willing to change correct that timeline yeah but do you see okay okay she has an opinion she titled her opinion okay when you hear official timeline don't you think that's like from the fbi or from the oram police or the utah county sheriffs or the prosecuting office or maybe the defense team this is the official timeline if candace owen says here's my official timeline is anybody like that has to be what happened there's no debate i know he ate a delicious juicy steak and penguich i'm confident well okay even if you are nobody's being harmed by that nobody's being harmed by that no maybe the prosecution's being harmed but i don't think he's doing this so the prosecution can make a claim um now it's possible all this is just because they don't want the jury to go out there looking around and say if it comes up a trial and say well did he go and they find candace's official timelines that were right there candace said he didn't go but that needs to be cleared up important that needs to be cleared up all right a couple more clips investigating authority official i'm using your word who's the official here so whoever the investigating authority is is going to be the official yes that's going to be the leader here and and in the case of tyler robinson being in - Who is the official that capacity on the investigatory side it's going to be the police is is is candace owens the official from for the investigatory side if you she's official to the things she says on her channel yeah i'm actually going to skip the rest of this this was a four minute clip i'm saving you three and a half minutes because he just goes around and around and says the same thing over and over all right let me roll forward i got a couple more short ones here the this will this will uh move quicker without me playing that four minute clip here so let me uh let me roll this forward to 26 just a couple seconds here and i'll hit play on this all right i don't want to pick people up mid-sentence mid-sentence if i can avoid it your is it your official timeline that tyler robinson was at the steakhouse i don't i'm not an official sir yeah you've already established it is it in your unofficial timeline like yeah oh yeah unofficially i believe the witness that testified okay so you believe he was there i believe the witness so when you relate there's got to be some motive here and that motive has to be setting something up for a court of law i refuse to believe he has just been out of shape over the fact that candace i mean maybe he's like super autistic i don't know maybe he's just super autistic can't stand the word official you know everybody has their own little thing and and he's like hey oh you said official that's not official i'm gonna have a three hour debate over it now i doubt that i doubt that i gotta believe he's setting something up here it just doesn't make sense to me another way um but bam bam and you keep playing clips of him saying official yeah because he keeps saying it and and i'm just weirded out by it it's the only thing i could focus on while they were debating i mean you're not allowing for the cabins you're not allowing for the cabins you're not allowing for the cabins you're not allowing for the caveat of i will change if different evidence is presented then it's not official and shouldn't be part of an official timeline what do you mean have you ever gotten angry with somebody over what they titled their personal word document then it's not official and she shouldn't call it official okay smoke boy maybe that's why he's upset smokehouse smoke boy maybe he feels like a kinship with this place i am smoke boy they are smokehouse we're practically ken oh she's not an official it's true you don't you're not sure you just agree you already agreed that in the case of tyler robinson she is not an official so how can it be an official timeline you're equivocating you're using the you are actually the one we're using the word you're using the word official here in two different contexts you're saying who's officially in charge of the investigation we agree it's the police that has no bearing on whether or not she's in charge of her own official timeline when when you watch it over the course of two hours and you don't condense it like i have here you you almost lose the fact that he was obsessed over this point that's why i wanted to break it down this way because and all the things i've heard people talking about this debate and a lot of people have been talking about it and trending on x for like 24 hours all the things i heard people talking about it almost nobody keyed in on this obsession with the word official her official timeline then you don't put it on the timeline what does that mean that he doesn't believe his my turn even if he doesn't believe that robinson was there just answer that please i already did he can right of course i said it already why do you make me repeat myself and all we're left with one is this a fatiguing debate official timeline that is completely unofficial because there's no when the owner says he believes is that an opinion uh yeah sure okay so is is that opinion evidence um yeah that opinion is evidence yeah just like the opinion of the eyewitness is evidence i put that in there for a reason i'm gonna pull this down for a minute i put that in there for a reason andrew doesn't know how courts work he actually said in there if you kept listening that the owner would be able to testify about his opinion that tyler wasn't there that night that's that's that's nonsense i cannot imagine a scenario where that would be permitted now maybe some judge somewhere would let that in but i think that would be so improper in fact witnesses are not there to testify about their opinion that's an objection to the court's decision they're there to opine on what they believe they're there to opine on what they saw heard felt tasted smelled that's what they're there to testify about that's it that's all they're there to testify about they're not there to opine well and based on the fact that i called the fbi and they didn't call me back but and at one point he goes in on this and i'll play a little bit of it this this this other server who isn't a hundred percent sure that it was tyler robinson kind of 50 50 i'm not really sure if it was him or not he said well he could testify about what she said well no that's not at all the case that she would testify about what she said if somebody wants to call her and say were you confident it was tyler robinson she's like i don't know it could have been couldn't have been i don't know i mean it'd be a waste of the court's time but they're welcome to put her up to say that but you can't get the hearsay of of the owner saying well i heard her say that she wasn't sure that's that's that's nonsense that's not how it works all right now i want to back up um actually let me let me do this real quick let me play a different clip i've got a clip of the smoke boy versus candace debate the smoke boy versus candace debate and whether or not positive evidence or negative evidence is required in order to believe something can you believe something based solely on the fact that you're a fbi and you're not a fbi so let's go back to this debate and this is going to play to the next thing i'm going to play here is the rabbit i mean not even that's like everything was about trying to convince the public how much he liked it so then other than intuition how you feel about things do you have any evidence israel i i was involved in killing charlie kirk i have already said and if you're watching my show in the context of what i said this is the general sense of why people think israel's involved we don't nobody has made the claim that is israelis there were also you know made the claim well joe kent who i i think would uh have the right to assert it uh noted that there were 12 israeli cell phones on the ground that day i think most people would like to probe that now it could be maybe they were students you know and they were israeli students in utah that day but we'd like to probe that narrative because what we've seen after coming from the israeli government the israeli prime minister uh kind of denying that he did it which wasn't really necessary was quite busy uh the phone call that happened which no one wants to discuss in the hamptons the week prior uh or not the week prior i think it was uh around august 5th or 6th that took place and again the almost desperate lies about charlie shifting opinion on israel lead us to believe that there could be an israeli angle in this and so the question here that they're asking and i'm not trying to litigate this issue i'm using this for purely pedagogical purposes the question is is that sufficient to probe are you allowed to form an opinion based on the fact that these things are weird that you're noticing a lot of things that you're not aware of and you're not aware of the lot of weirdnesses and inconsistencies that's what she's saying is i have questions about whether our greatest ally was involved because of these five or eight things however many things she named listen to how he responds uh but we cannot say for certainty that israel called the shots and this is how it happened but it is definitively i think a thread that a lot of us would like to say there's no positive evidence so there's no positive evidence i whatever you want to say are we positive negative however you want to say it like positive evidence would have a conversation material evidence and other evidences which what we've said is on our show is what we said which is we this feels like a conspiracy building there's no reason to lie about these things and yet people are lying uh bb ain't acting right the hamptons thing was weird and the way they tried to shove the israel narrative down our throat immediately i mean the day he died posting a picture of him with an american and israeli a.i'd photo on the president's feed doesn't feel right do you have any evidence that so you have to have positive evidence that's the only thing smoke boy will accept do you have any positive evidence in fact we have a whole a whole montage here of smoke boy talking about positive evidence it's not terribly long we've included a counter in case you get lost i want you to follow along here as smoke boy demands positive evidence oh don't have any sound let me start over well it was positive evidence yeah do you have any positive evidence whatsoever that israel killed charlie kirk do you have positive evidence and the question i'm asking is about positive evidence i'm telling definitively i think a thread that a lot of us would like to say there's no positive evidence well like positive evidence i can just have a conversation material evidence and other evidences which would be what we've said so i'm going to follow along here as smoke boy demands positive evidence evidence and other evidences which would be what we've said so i'm going to follow along here as smoke boy demands positive evidence - What we've said is I can't do that. I'm not the United States government. - But you don't have any positive evidence of that. I have every right to ask you about your claim. And if there's positive evidence for your claim. What I'm asking is if you have positive evidence. - Don't you think that like tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of people would want to know what Candace Owens' positive evidence evidence for why it is that Israel and France were involved in the most traumatic public assassination of Gen Z's lifetime is? That's why they watch my podcast. She didn't have a single claim. She didn't have a single solid piece of evidence. She had no positive evidence Israel's involved in anything. No positive evidence that France is involved in anything. No positive evidence TPUSA is involved in anything. No positive evidence that Erica Kirk is involved in anything. What's your best? So positive evidence is a good thing. Well, what is positive evidence? Well, positive evidence would be an eyewitness testifying that Tyler Robinson was at the Penguin Smokehouse or the Cowboy Smokehouse. That's positive evidence. That's the definition of positive evidence. An eyewitness asserting it. Well, what about Smokeboy? Is he a hypocrite or does he hold himself to this same very. very high standard of positive evidence? Well, let's find out here. Let's go to 119. 119.05. Let's listen to what Smokeboy thinks about positive evidence now when it doesn't. when it cuts against him. Oh, but I would never play it without showing it to you. That would be ludicrous. Why would I do such a thing? Why would I ever do such a thing? I would never play a video without showing it to you. Nope. So what evidence is he drawing his belief from? The he there is the owner who now claims he is not sure whether Tyler Robinson was there. The fact that there is no corroborating evidence for this eyewitness. So he's drawing a collusion from a lack of evidence? Not just that. Not just that. He's also saying that the positive evidence that he had sent off, he heard nothing back. So there's a good chance that this was investigated, which is a reasonable inference, and there just wasn't anything there. So he's drawing a collusion from a lack of evidence, correct? No, that would be a collusion from positive evidence. What positive evidence? You said that there's a lack. Yeah, well, no, there's a negation and there's a positive. There's a lack of a response from the FBI. There's a lack of surveillance footage. There's a lack of a name on the receipt. Yeah, but negative evidence. There's a lack of him being there. You see what he's doing? He's holding himself to the same standard. That's negative evidence. There's nothing there. This lack of being able to prove he was there. Yeah. This lack of being able to prove he was there means he wasn't there. No, that's called negative evidence, smoke boy. Do you have any positive evidence? Do I need to play the montage again? Do we need to montage him up? Bro, do you want me to answer it or no? So the way that this ended up happening, the positive evidence, which would be the receipt. You see what had happened was. This was sent. Yeah, this was sent off. And if he gets no response back, that's a reasonable inference. A reasonable inference based on negative evidence. He'd never heard back. Therefore, he infers that it was investigated thoroughly and found he wasn't there. Smoke boy. If Tyler Robinson didn't do it, there's a reasonable inference that there's a multi-agency cover-up. If the evidence that Tyler Robinson was at the smokehouse would undercut or expose the multi-agency cover-up, are they going to get back and say, you know what? As a matter of fact, he was there. We checked this out. That was his card. His cell phone pinged to you. Your cell phone. Your parking lot. At these times. In fact, we do believe that was him. No. No, that's ludicrous. That's ludicrous to suggest that. It's either Tyler Robinson or it is a multi-agency cover-up. That multi-agency cover-up would include the FBI. Now, are you suggesting the FBI is covering this up? No, I'm suggesting it's one or the other. It's either Tyler Robinson or it's a multi-agency cover-up. Those are your options on the table before you today. It's one of those two. And if it's a multi-agency cover-up, one of those agencies is the agency tasked with investigating whether Tyler Robinson was at the Panguitch smokehouse. That's the fact. And so you can't draw a conclusion based on the fact that they didn't confirm he was there if the confirmation that he was there would expose the plot. That would undercut. That would destroy the whole thing. We had people set up. We had high technology in place. We had novel weaponry. We had decoys in maroon shirts. We had insiders at TPUSA. We had a George Zinn lined up ready to take credit. We had a guy going hospital to hospital so we could gaffle the footage. We had all this stuff in place. But doggone it, the guy at Panguitch smokehouse asked us to investigate if that was Tyler Robinson or if that was Tyler Robinson. And we had all this stuff in place. But doggone it, the guy at Panguitch smokehouse asked us to investigate if that was Tyler Robinson or if that was Tyler Robinson or if that was Tyler Robinson. And it was. So I guess we're just going to have to tell the truth and expose the whole plot. No. Now, that was just me speculating. I was not suggesting that's fact. That was opinion. Not even opinion. That was a thought exercise. But if it's a multi-agency cover-up, the agency leading the multi-agency cover-up is not going to expose the plot. And so therefore, any negative evidence from them cannot be drawn a reasonable inference. Not the way it works. Corby had, when he got a call asking about whether or not he had the information related to a full day or I'm not sure if you're familiar with the story, he gave them the information, right? Like when the FBI reached out to him or law enforcement or whatever, I think it was the ATF actually, he never heard back from them. Do you know if it's regular practice for the FBI to contact people who are not directly involved in a case to update them or give them information? Do you know if it's regular practice for the FBI to contact people who are not directly involved in a case to update them or give them information about their investigations? Probably not, generally. That's an omission. That they probably would not get back in touch with the owner to let them know whether Tyler Robinson was there. If they were truly investigating whether Tyler Robinson was there and they concluded he was or wasn't, updating him, updating the owner of the Penguin Smokehouse or the Cowboy Smokehouse in Penguin probably isn't high on the priority list and may not even be proper is kind of what Andrew just agreed to. Does that mean that you can draw a conclusion from a lack of that communication since it's a general practice? You can draw an inference. That's not what I asked. An inference is a conclusion. That you look at evidence and then you conclude what that evidence might mean. That's an inference. That's the definite, I mean, you're just playing word games at this point, Smokeboy. Yeah, so then, yeah, it wouldn't be a conclusion. Okay, so an inference, but we can agree that inferences aren't conclusions. Right? Correct. I disagree. Correct. Okay, so then with no degree of certainty, which is what a conclusion is, the owner is saying that Tyler Robinson wasn't there. Well, a conclusion doesn't mean with no degree of uncertainty or something. That's not what I said. Necessarily, yeah. Inference is not a certainty. What did you say? What did I miss? You disagreed. You can have certainty with an inference, yes. Okay. But not always. So he doesn't have any evidence that Tyler Robinson wasn't there. He's just saying he doesn't believe it because of a lack of response from the FBI. No, it's the opposite. There's no good reason to believe Tyler Robinson was there. So then you're saying that there's no. Except for the eyewitness. I mean, that's what I'm saying. This is such a dishonest actor. He is not being honest. He's twisting the English language. Oh, you could draw an inference based on this, and then the inference itself becomes positive evidence, even though it's an inference based on negative. What? What are you talking about? There's no reason to believe he was there, except somebody said they saw him with 100% degree of certainty. Other than that, yeah, maybe not. No good reason to believe his own employee. Yeah, and there's no good reason to believe that you weren't there. There's no good reason to believe Candace Owens wasn't there. There's no good reason. If you have no good reason to believe. I mean, I talked to him. I mean, you know that. So did I. So did I for a long time. I mean, I was actually at the restaurant. Did he go there? He has no. Do I need to go there? Yeah. I'm muting for a second because they say a foul word. Go there. Try Cowboys brisket. Highly recommend it. Why is it. But if there's no good evidence to believe that he was there, that's a reasonable. Okay, so I mean, that's. And on top of that, why would you add this in to your official timeline? So he said that. He said that his. Wait, I'm just curious. In your back and forth with him, did he say that his server that I interviewed, did he say that that was not good evidence? Yeah, he said that there was no good evidence to believe that Tyler Robinson was there. So he said that he didn't believe his server. This, again, this is a dishonest attempt. One of the fundamentals of debate is both sides have to be honest. The reason the court system works is because we swear people in and make them tell the truth. Now, can they still get up there and lie? Sure. But we have a jury there who's able to look in and say, "I don't think they're being honest." And they can disregard. If they find they're dishonest about anything, they can disregard everything. But the idea is that they raise the right hand, do you swear, affirm, you'll tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth to help God? I do. That's it. That's the basis. But when you have somebody who's engaged in these debates and they're just fundamentally dishonest, there's no evidence to believe he's there, no good reason to believe he's there, except the eyewitness, the most assertive eyewitness in this entire investigation, the only person in the entire investigation who 100% certifies that he is 100% confident he saw Tyler Robinson is this server. Nobody in Orem, nobody at UVU, nobody anywhere. The only person 100% certain that they saw Tyler Robinson is this servant. But there's no good reason to believe he was at the steakhouse, even though we have that. But there's good reason to believe he shot and killed Charlie Kirk based on people who are less than 100% certain they saw him. That seems fundamentally dishonest. This is a long clip, and it's getting late. I don't want to play the whole clip. Trust me, the rest of this was a disaster. He started saying that somebody saying, I don't know if Tyler Robinson was there, negates someone saying they were confident they saw Tyler Robinson, as if a neutral statement somehow negates a positive statement. That's nonsense. No logic dictates that you must believe that. No common sense, reasonable person would say, oh, well, he said he didn't know. Therefore, I can't believe. This person. And what Diligent adeptly pointed out was, if you say someone said, I am confident it was not Tyler Robinson, and somebody says, I don't know, does that somehow negate this person? In other words, the I don't know becomes positive or negative based on the certainty of yes or no on this side. And it's ludicrous. It's an absolutely ludicrous proposition. But I don't want to keep going because I'm going to run out of time, and I want to pull up this letter from En Vida. From En Vida. Actually, this is a better version. Let me pull this up. Oh, not that one. Hold on. That's the one I didn't want to. This one right here, Daisy, is the one I did not want to show. I want to show the other one. Can you drop that in there? I want to pull up this letter from En Vida. For those that don't know, En Vida is a natural medical clinic. I'm sure they do great work. I have no issue at all with the work En Vida does. I have no reason to doubt. Anything anyone says there. I want to clarify that because obviously they're setting this up for some sort of defamatory claim. So I want to be on the record that as I look at this letter in just a second, there's a letter we're going to show from En Vida. No, yeah, this is correct. Maybe I clicked the wrong one. You're right. As I show this letter from En Vida, I want to be very clear that I am not defaming anyone, Smokeboy. Smokeboy put this out on his podcast the other day. I don't know what day it was. Again, putting information out, not directly, but through third parties. In this instance, a discredited podcaster who's now 0 for 2 on the big stage. This letter is from En Vida, from the health care center where Erica Kirk's mother is believed to be getting treatment. And I'll just read it. It says, En Vida. En Vida. En Vida Medical Centers independently confirms Erica Kirk and her mother were present at its facility in Scottsdale, Arizona at the time Charlie Kirk was shot. Erica was accompanying and supporting her mother while she received treatment. Charlie Kirk had encouraged Erica's mother to seek care at En Vida, which specializes in precision oncology, the treatment of chronic illness and Lyme disease. All three are terrible conditions. All three, if you have them, I encourage you to seek treatment. And all three of them, I bet. I bet En Vida does the best treatment around. I don't know. I don't know. En Vida is providing this confirmation publicly at the request of Erica and her mother. Well, if Erica and her mother are requesting it, why are Erica and her mother not releasing it? That's my only question. That's one of my only questions here. Why would Smokeboy be releasing it? This whole middle paragraph right here. So if they get it, the request from Erica and her mother, En Vida is providing this confirmation publicly at the request of Erica and her mother. How does it end up in Smokeboy's hands if he's not working with them? He claims to not be working with them. To protect patient privacy and medical confidentiality, En Vida will not disclose or comment on any diagnosis, treatment, medical records, or other protected health information beyond the limited information authorized for release. Question. Can En Vida Medical Center independently confirm anything? Or would En Vida Medical Center independently confirm anything? He released this letter on the personal confirmation of a single individual that they saw or knew Erica Kirk was there. And it's accompanied by a letter that says, you must believe this testimony or you're impugning the character of the person who's making it, who's giving it. Now, think about what we just listened to an hour of smoke boys saying that just because someone is 100% certain they saw Tyler Robinson, there's no good evidence he was there. I want to repeat it because I don't want this point getting lost on anybody. I'll even pull this down because I want you to, I want you to look in my eyes and make sure you understand what I'm saying here, because the irony is not lost on your humble host. We just listened to an hour of a conversation of smoke boys saying, yes, I'm aware the guy at Penguin Smokehouse said he saw Tyler Robinson, but that does not mean there's any good evidence he was there. Even though he went on the record and said, I saw it, I'm 100% confident he was there. Or he kind of went on the record. He didn't show his face and he didn't give his name, but he was standing in the smokehouse and he claimed to be an employee. And Diligent swears that, that the guy was an employee and he's the one that he talked to. And smoke boy says no good evidence he was there. Now, is that defaming that man? Is that defaming the server who said he was 100% sure he was there? I don't think so. Because I think smoke boy's right. You are free to believe or disbelieve anything someone says. But in this case, with Invita, those rules are out. You are required to believe this eyewitness testimony. You are required to believe that Erica Kirk was at Invita. You're required. There's a lawyer's statement that accompanies this that he also released. I'm not going to show it. I got my reasons for not showing it. I'm not going to show the lawyer's letter. But in the letter, the lawyer says, essentially, if you don't believe this, you are defaming his character. I'll leave that up for you to decide whether that's true or not. I'll leave that up for you to decide whether you believe this guy or not. I'm not stating one way or the other whether I believe this guy. I'm covering this to point out the irony that smoke boy would spend an hour of his time at one or two in the morning debating diligent denizen and saying there's no good evidence. Tyler Robinson was at the Cowboy Smokehouse in Panguitch, despite eyewitness testimony saying he was there. And on the very same weekend, release a letter from Invita. That says Erica was there and you must believe it or you're defaming the person who made the statement. Do you see why I find smoke boy to be a fundamentally dishonest character? If it weren't for double standards, the man would have no standards at all. None. You can't have it both ways. Smoke boy. If we're free to disbelieve the server because people get things wrong, then why aren't we free to disbelieve? The person. The person from Invita. I'm not saying whether I believe either one of them. I'm not saying whether I disbelieve either one of them. I'm covering this merely to point out smoke boy's hypocrisy. Making no claims whatsoever about Panguitch, the smokehouse, Cowboy Smokehouse. Making no claims whatsoever about Ralph, the co-owner. I'm making no claims whatsoever about the server there. I'm making no claims whatsoever about Invita. I'm making no claims whatsoever about the employee of Invita. The lawyer who sent the letter. I'm only pointing out smoke boy's hypocrisy. That he's the vessel through which they chose to release this statement. That you must believe Erica Kirk was there. And if you choose not to believe it, then you are defaming the character of the person who placed her there. While at the exact same time saying there's no good evidence he was at the smokehouse. Am I the only one picking up on this dishonesty? Does smoke boy himself not understand the predicament he's put himself in within a 24-hour window? it's pretty obvious, guys, it's pretty obvious that he's trying to have his cake and eat it too. Was Erica at Invita? I have no idea. Was Tyler at Penguins Smokehouse? I have no idea. Are both facts vitally important to the case? Yeah, I think so. Honestly, I do. I think both of these cases could end up being dispositive on different issues. One would be dispositive on prior knowledge that Charlie Kirk was going to die. Why else would you lie about where you were? I don't know whether she lied. That's not my point. My point is, if it turns out she wasn't there, it's pretty dispositive on whether or not she had good motives that day, I think. And if it turns out Tyler Robinson was at the Cowboys Smokehouse in Penguins, it's pretty dispositive on whether he was sending those text messages, because the text messages said he was in Orem watching police dog sniffers. So it becomes pretty dispositive. Both of these issues become pretty dispositive, which is why I think they're addressing both of these issues. They only seem to address certain issues. They don't address everything that's come up. There have been a lot of questions that have come up that they've looked the other way, and they've chosen not to respond to at all. But on this particular issue, the Penguins Smokehouse, they've invested a lot. They've got Smokeboy out there doing battle at 2 a.m. on the phone, in public, and on the event, in VEDA issue. Now they have lawyers and CEOs and other people saying very threatening things if you don't believe the story or if you speak out against the story. So I think they're both pretty important. But on the one hand, Smokeboy says this is bulletproof evidence. That's where she was. At 12.23 and 34 seconds, Erica Kirk was at, and VEDA in Scottsdale, Arizona. That's Smokeboy's interpretation of this letter. That's the lawyer's interpretation of this letter. Why do we know that? Because someone said so. Okay. And at 8.55 to 9.47 p.m., they say absolutely not. Tyler Robinson was not at Cowboy Smokehouse. There's no good evidence. And the people who think, why did they think he was there? Why did they think he was there? It's the exact same scenario. Someone said they saw you there. And I just have to marvel. Your humble host has too much integrity to pull something like this off. And I've speculated about a lot of things. Those things may turn out to be right. They may turn out to be wrong. But I've always given you the reason I've speculated. One of the most famous might be that I speculated the fact that I was at Cowboy Smokehouse that Tyler Robinson might have turned himself in before 6.25 p.m. on September 11th. And that he might have been Mirandized. For those of you not in America, Mirandized means you were given your rights to remain silent and to get an attorney. We have a timestamp of 6.25 p.m., but we don't have a date. We don't have a date. So I looked for contact clues. I looked at those contact clues and came up with an independent determination that the contact clues tend to tell me he was in custody being Mirandized at 6.25 p.m. on September 11th. If that turns out not to be true, who cares? Who cares? It does not tend to show that Tyler Robinson did or did not commit a murder. But if it turns out he was not there, it does tend to show he did not commit a murder. And so it is an important issue. If he was there, it's very important to the case. If he was not there, it doesn't have any bearing on the case whatsoever. And so I speculate, I guess. But I told you, I believe that, but I can't state it with certainty. I don't know. And if good evidence comes out, if there's an eyewitness who 100% puts Tyler Robinson somewhere else at 6.25 p.m. on September 11th, I'll reevaluate. Is it on my official timeline? No, Smokeboy. It's on my unofficial timeline. It's on my personal opinion timeline. But I cannot possibly let the irony go without mention. Cannot possibly let the irony go without mention. Now, let me address a couple things. There are a lot of people who think this is a fake letter. This is not true. And here's, let me address a couple of those things. One basis is they say this is a HIPAA violation. To suggest that this is a HIPAA violation, that Erica's mother was there, that Erica was there, some sort of HIPAA violation. That's nonsense. That's nonsense. HIPAA can be waived. And the waiver was implied in the statement, if not stated explicitly in the statement. I am providing this at the request of Erica and her mother. Her mother's the patient. Erica's not the patient. So her mother is the one that would waive it. Erica's presence at the clinic is not a HIPAA violation at all. Erica's mother's presence at the clinic could be. But if she waives the protections, the privacy protections implied or explicitly stated in HIPAA, if she waives those privacy protections, then anyone's free to talk about it. You know, when you go to the doctor, a lot of times one of the many forms you sign is a HIPAA waiver. And it'll say in there, you know, do you want us talking about your treatment with someone else? And I always put Mrs. Coleman's name down there and Mrs. Coleman's email address and Mrs. Coleman's phone number. And that way, if something happens to me and I'm incapacitated or they can't reach me and they need to give me some sort of important time-sensitive results and I'm not available, they can call her. Hey, your husband has a raging sinus infection. He needs to get treatment right away. You know, every second counts. Okay. Well, I'm doing a show. I can't answer the phone. They can call her. They can talk to her because I've waived that privacy. If I don't waive it, they can't call her. They can only talk to me. The HIPAA waiver is implied or maybe even explicitly stated in that statement. My guess is they have it written down somewhere to protect themselves. There's probably a letter to the clinic saying from Lori, from Erica's mother, saying, I waive my protections. I waive my privacy. Please tell them where I was and that my daughter was with me. So it's not a HIPAA violation. So stop saying that. Number two, the misspelling of the name. Oh, it's not Erica. Erica's name is spelled with a K. This letter spelled her name with a C. Stop it. Stop it. The purpose of communication is to be understood. Is there anyone who didn't know who they were talking about? Is there another Erica with a C who would have accompanied Lori to a medical appointment? No. No, that's nonsense. That's foolishness. Foolishness. Does it show that the letter was maybe quickly prepared without being double-checked? Yeah, probably. But that's okay. That's allowed. That's allowed. These are busy places. Do I think the letter. Do I think the letter's real? I don't know. I don't have an opinion on that. I'm not required to have an opinion on that. I'm not saying it's fake. I'm not saying it's real. I'm not required to stake out an opinion on whether the letter is true, whether the letter is real, or whether the contents of the letter are accurate. I have no. Just because you tell me that I'm required to believe this does not mean I'm required to believe this. I don't. I don't know what to believe. I have no idea what to believe. Part of the problem is there are different people saying she might have been in different places around town. And I have to weigh all that evidence. So I don't know where Erica was. But bam, bam, bam, bam. Are you calling that guy a liar? He said she was there. No, I'm saying I've yet to formulate a belief one way or the other. I don't believe she was there. I don't disbelieve she was there. That's part of the problem here is waiting 11 and a half months to address these issues. And so you can't come out and say the letter's fake. There's no. There's no positive evidence that the letter's fake. But you also, in my opinion, can't come out and say, well, that settles it. It's over. No, because if it's over there, then it's over that he was at Panguitch. If we're required to believe she was in Scottsdale, then we should be required to believe Tyler was in Panguitch. And I don't know what to believe about either one of them. I've got it on my timeline in yellow, meaning maybe, maybe not. Follow up on. Something to check on. The final thing I'll say, and then we'll get into some of your comments. I know we've gone late today. There's been a lot made of the volume of discovery, and maybe tomorrow we'll look at some of it. There's been a lot said about the volume of discovery this week. It's. It's. It cuts both ways. I've seen a lot of people on social media saying, oh, they've got 26,000 data points for cell phone pings. Okay. Fine. Even if every one of those pings pings to a device purporting to be Tyler Robinson's, can you put the device in Tyler Robinson's hand beyond a reasonable doubt? I mean, first you've got to put him somewhere beyond a reasonable doubt. Then you have to put the phone in his hand be on a reasonable doubt. That's two very big hurdles. so if you're going to use that as some sort of element of the crime that he was at the facility he was there he was on the roof how do we know he was on the roof his phone pinged on the roof okay i could i could see this example hey we're going to commit a crime everybody throw their phones in this lunchbox we'll get your phones back afterwards we don't want your phone pinging where you are all afternoon okay here's my phone put it in the lunchbox okay great and then if you're going to frame tyler robinson you would pull his phone out and stick it in the hands of the guy who's walking all over town who gets up on the roof i mean is that far-fetched i don't think it's really that far-fetched again if you're going to frame somebody you're going to frame them if i'm going to frame somebody being on the roof i've got to have something up there putting them on the roof a screwdriver with some dna and a phone would go a long way now maybe tyler robinson was on the roof and his screwdriver fell out of his pants and his phone was in his pocket it seems kind of foolish to me though if you're trying to get away with a crime that you intend to take to your grave to take a locating device tied to your home and your name to the scene of the crime that seems a little a little bit like you overlooked a key component to getting away with a crime that seems like a key component second where's his phone where's his phone you can turn over all the points of data on a sheet you want you can turn over all the the zeros and ones in a computer drive you want has anyone seen his phone does the defense seen his phone has that been listed of the things that turned over no as a matter of fact i don't believe it has i don't believe his phone's been turned over which means his phone is still in federal custody at the fbi the one that has not gotten back to panguich about whether to turn over his phone or tyler was there that fbi that fbi and where's the gun you can't kill someone without a gun not if you're supposed to have shot them with the gun i can't shoot you with a gun that that i don't have no where's the gun has the defense had an opportunity to look at it has it been turned over has has any independent investigator gotten a hold of this thing is no no it's still at the fbi as well that's still at the fbi as well and so the very government that might be potentially involved in a multi-agency cover-up has possession of all the good evidence so don't tell me they turned everything over hey they haven't we're still getting notes that there's stuff that hadn't been turned over but you can't turn everything over if you don't if you don't have access to any of the actual evidence to evaluate and review to get an independent analysis let's take a look at the bullet fragments the gun the cell phone key components of the gun that might be potentially involved in a multi-agency No. The good stuff is buried in mountains of stuff that's irrelevant or may not matter. Or it may matter because you may see some sort of cover-up taking place, but you can't find it because you've got all this stuff to sift through. Hundreds of thousands of hours of video footage from all over campus. Tens of thousands of phone pings from all over the state of Utah. So we don't really know what the defense has. We don't know what they make of it. We don't know where the key evidence is. We think we know where it is, and we think the defense doesn't have it. And so this notion that the defense has everything and still has no defense is nonsensical. It's nonsensical. It doesn't add up. It doesn't make sense. So I just wanted to mention that just because it's a talking point, and sometimes people don't know how to respond. That's just a fact. It's just a fact. A couple things. One, hit the like button. Go ahead. Do it now. If you're watching TV, there's a menu button. You've got to push that. 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Decoy number 95669 in the house. Christ is King indeed. Go Max. You go Max, Nurse for Mercy. We've sold enough of those decoy shirts. You should see one in the wild. I'm curious if any of them are going to show up on the party on September 10th. 34 nights sober, 10 days no shampoo, nine days in the gym. Welcome back, Baron. You, my friend, are making your life better one day at a time. One day at a time. I can't see your picture. Do you have enough hair for shampoo? It looks like it. Some people joke that they don't use shampoo because they're bald, but you don't look bald. Congratulations on the, you know, your hair. You're bald. You're bald. You're bald. You're a 34 days sober, by the way. Lost all brain cells without you, sir. It was a rough weekend. Welcome back and congrats to your niece. Yeah, it was a beautiful wedding. It really was a beautiful wedding. And she married a gem of a guy that she's known since she was a teen and went to prom with the guy. That was like eight or nine years ago. So they've been together a long time. Welcome back. Welcome back. Welcome back. I can't play music on this, but when I used to come back from a break on the radio, I would always play Welcome Back, Cotter. I can't do that here. Went back and watched old videos on Spotify. I feel ponytail lanyard guy flips his lanyard for HK as a sign. HK glances over at guy just before asking his last question before the big bang. Was he ever named? Yes, that is Charles McClintock Wilson. I've talked to him many times. I'll admit the flipping of the lanyard is uncanny timing, uncanny timing. Baron O, how I've missed your humble host. You, our humble host. I'm an adult accounting student, and I have just to say I would love to have Professor Coleman at my college here in Knoxville. Hit the like, y'all. Well, you will not have him. I will never go back. I used to teach accounting. I will never go back to doing it. Teaching people who hate accounting, accounting is not ideal. It's a tough life. Curious if you looked into the Snake Eyes movie and the very odd comparison it has to the CK assassination. Hope you had a great trip. I'm glad you're back. I have, in fact, looked at that. Price is king indeed. Claiming number one in Tasmania. You may be our only fan in Tasmania. Although we're big in Australia, aren't you guys part of Australia? Or close to Australia? You inspired the Tasmanian devil. I know that. He used to spin around on my TV on Saturday mornings. Said they have an icon of Saint Maximilian Kolbe. Do you have any others, and how did you choose them? Emma. We do. We picked the saint for each of our children, so we have all of those. Not going to go through all of them because that'll give you our names of our kids, but we have the saints for our children. We have the saints for our children. We have just some other saints that we as a family look up to. We probably have maybe 15 or 20 around the house. Big fan. It's like a cloud of witnesses. You know, in Hebrews 11, they talk about the cloud of witnesses that went before you. We have a cloud of witnesses on our walls. Loved your show with Owen Benjamin. Member show request, NateVFT. He said he'd love to be on your show. Welcome back, Baron. Thanks for all you do. That would be a fun interview. That would be fun. SmokeBoy's master debate vocabulary. So what? You're making stuff up. Positive evidence. Welcome back. You were missed. Daisy2. I could add some stuff to that. He likes to say the F word. Hey B, sorry if this has been asked before. Could CK's life insurance company sue a security team for their negligence? Thanks for being a voice of reason. Crisis king indeed. CK's life insurance company sue a security team for their negligence. You know, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. CK's life insurance company sue a security team for uh one of two my b i followed candace and smoke boy for years and now on the jury i have what many call a successful life but i have a hole in my heart i'm not a christian but aw has made a case for orthodoxy and you and candace for catholicism i feel like this is a sign of uh of some and it is moving me but i don't know thoughts um yeah god spoke through a donkey to some people we can speak to a donkey he can speak to your humble host candace or smoke boy no doubt about it so follow your heart follow your heart actually don't follow your heart a lot of people's heart i'll lead them astray uh my husband is teasing me for being so excited for baron to be back i hope your break was relaxing and enjoyable it was it was so relaxing i forgot how to do a podcast i couldn't get it set up today i was like what do i hit next how do i turn the sound on why is the mic not working uh don't give smoke boy the time of day i think today may be the last time i talk about it be honest with you but i had to do that because it was such a you thorough smashing he got absolutely obliterated it was beautiful to watch thank you so much i agree with you on oj half forever christ is king you were brilliant god bless you and your family god bless the god bless the usa oh my gosh hold on i don't know if i want to tell this joke so i went to a church on um the singing made me think of it because the singing at the church wasn't ideal um i went to a church in uh in la jolla on uh on sunday morning and the priest was funny he told a joke and i don't think i can tell it on air but he told a joke that absolutely cracked me up maybe one day i'll tell it all right i'll tell it i'll tell it so this uh this jewish kid moves to a catholic area he's the only jewish kid at the school he goes to a catholic school and the nun is there sister mary and um well i gotta give you the background he's telling the joke because there's a nun who's there to raise money for catholic schools he's there to raise money for catholic schools he's there to raise money for catholic schools that day so she after the service she's going to give a speech this is not uncommon in catholic churches i don't know how you protestants do it but it's not uncommon that there's some missionary that comes through raising money and and they'll take up a second collection they call it the second collection and they'll take up a second collection for the missionary all right so you drop another 20 in the basket or whatever um and she was gonna ask for money so he decided to tell a joke about money and it was funny it was funny i'll tell you the joke now so there's this jewish kid moves to this catholic community he's the only jewish kid at the catholic school and so he's there sister Mary's up in class and she says, I've got a crisp $20 bill. And I'm going to give this crisp $20 bill to the first person who can give me the answer I'm looking for to this question. And the question is easy. Who is the most consequential human being who's ever lived? And the first guy raises his hand and she's like, yes, Matthew McGillicuddy. What is your answer? And he's like, the most consequential person who ever lived is George Washington. And she said, oh, George Washington, why do you say that? And he said, because George Washington founded the country. And she's like, ooh, that's a good answer. But it's not the answer I'm looking for. So Matthew goes, ah, shucks. So she goes to the next guy. He raises his hand. Oh, yes, yes, Sister Mary, I've got the answer. Okay. Luke Johnson. What is the answer? And Luke Johnson says, the answer is Abraham Lincoln. Ooh, that's an interesting one. Why do you say that? Well, the country was falling apart. We had slaves, you see. And Abraham Lincoln kept the country apart together and freed the slaves. He is the most consequential man who ever lived. And Sister Mary says, well, that's a very good answer, Luke Johnson, but that's not the answer I'm looking for. Ah. Well, then the Jewish kid raises his hand. She said, yes, Abraham Zimmerman. What is your answer? And Abraham Zimmerman goes, the correct answer is Jesus Christ. And she said, oh, why do you say that? And he said, he came and saved all of humanity. Redeemed all of humanity. Made it possible for us to be reunited with God. And she said, that's exactly the answer I'm looking for. And hands him that crisp $20 bill. So later they're out at recess and she sees Andrew Zimmerman playing off by himself. And she walks up and she says, Abraham Zimmerman. She said, Abraham, may I ask you a question? And he said, sure. She said, why did you say Jesus Christ? He said, well, what do you mean? She said, well, I figured you being Jewish, you wouldn't have the right answer, but you had the right answer. How did you know? And he, she, he said, sister Mary, business is business. I couldn't believe he told the joke. I couldn't believe he told it, but it was hilarious. Everybody laughed. A great cackling took over the congregation. If you're in the diocese of San Diego, don't complain. You'll never figure out where I was. But it was funny. It was funny. Originally from California. Hope you had a good time. I remember saying something about yoga a while back. I used to love yoga until I realized I may be worshiping other gods. My opinion thoughts. That's also my opinion. Not a fan of yoga. Um, didn't I used to be pretty neutral on it until I listened to a podcast called the exorcist files. And there was a case study on a woman who was possessed by yoga. Then it was terrifying. It's terrifying. And I gave up. I can do a Christian stretching or, stretching fitness. Both acceptable. I'm out on yoga. Uh, Hey, Baba Baron, my husband made you a gift. Can you remind us your PO box? Glad to have you and Daisy back. Yes. Get ready to take a screen cap because I will display it for no more than 10 seconds. And there it is. Ladies, the world famous PO box. My wife just checked it while I was out of town. Uh, I thought only I noticed a W little girly hands. No, no, no. They're pretty obvious. Uh, thanks for watching smoke boy, AKA pickles. So we don't have to sound of his voice is like being pet to death by a duck. It's an interesting description of a voice. Uh, your older videos have new meaning. Spotify video. Number three, live nine 28, 25. You mentioned CK's 10 o'clock being more important than low C CS building. Have you seen John C's ex post from this weekend? He determined it was a similar trajectory. Uh, no, the 10 o'clock for me was the, uh, Robinson center. The computer science building would have the same trajectory. Um, as, uh, as the alleged Tyler Robinson shot. I think TPSA. No, they can't debate the evidence for alleged reasons. So they have deployed smoke boy and others to try to get people to make mistakes and start defamation suits to discredit podcasters. I have come to a similar conclusion. Stop with smoke boy. He's pickle boy. Sounds less. I'm cool. He clearly thinks smoking's cool. Well, okay. Well, let me, let me explain how to effectively nickname someone. You have to be both infantile and go after their biggest weakness. Now you might be tempted to say pickles is his biggest weakness because his most humiliating moment on air was being unable to open a pickle jar. It was actually an olive jar, but we've all moved on and called it a pickle jar. Cause that's much more hilarious. Uh, the problem with that is that's not the most, that's not his biggest weakness. That was a moment. We've all had a moment where you can't open a jar. I've got a tool in my house that opens jars. It's mounted under the cabinet. Uh, we've all been in that spot. Owen Benjamin correctly diagnosed smoke boys. Problem with the pickle jar was he couldn't laugh at himself. He kept getting mad. He kept making excuses. If he'd have just done it and said, Oh, good dog. Got it. What an unfortunate time to meet one of these jars. We all meet that you can't open. I can't open it. Sorry guys. That would have been hilarious. And nobody would have remembered it after the podcast was over. But the fact that he like threw a fit about it and started making all these excuses, oh, it's wet. So you got anything a grippy. I, it made it look like he had a real weakness. The reason smoke boys, a better nickname is because the smoking is a stick. It's obviously covering for something he's unsure about. He's, he's putting out a false machismo or a false bravado, right? He he's, um, he's trying to act macho. Um, sort of like, uh, uh, Danny. Zucco from Greece, right? He's got the, the, the weird affect where he does his podcast in the dark with a little red light going on. He smokes cigarettes. He drinks beer, very manly, but tells me that's his biggest weakness. So if you identify that you're using this as a crutch to hide the fact that you're a little girl inside, and that's what I believe. Um, then, then he knows every time you say smoke boy that he knows. I know he knows. We all know. Fun fact. I've met Dave Chappelle. A couple of times at a job I had as a nurse. He lives a couple of towns over from me. Super nice guy. Very chilling down to earth. His wife was lovely too. Very sweet. Yeah. Dave's great. Dave's at the top of his game. No question. Um, you must live in Ohio. Doesn't he live outside of Dayton, Ohio, somewhere over there? Um, he's very public about that. I'm not outing him, but he's, uh, he's a cool, I, I, I really like his comedy. I think he's very funny. Man, I lost my voice too. Happy Monday. Humble host and Daisy. Anyone else noticing deep state? Rhino connections. Yeah. I've been noticing that for 40 years. We talking about critter. I've been noticing, uh, Mr. Lamb rocker Baron. We just watched a great show from Danks about Freemasons. You should check it out. Hey, you aren't a Freemason. Are you just checking? Ha ha. I am not. I am not indeed. Welcome back Baron. Oh, that's trigger smart. Ladies and gentlemen, the world famous trigger smart. I feel honored to have such a famous podcaster in my midst. Now I got to be on my best behavior. Everyone hit that freaking like button. like button. We are live tomorrow for the final preliminary hearing and the verdict on if Tyler goes to trial. Join us tomorrow at 10.30 a.m. Central. I'm not reading the rest of those times, but it may get a little spicy tomorrow, see you there. Yeah, I will be watching because I'm not going to be on anywhere. But they did a good job covering the preliminary hearing the first time. Trigger had three or four people on with it most days. It was good. Baron, you're a weapon of mass information. I try to be. I try to be. I remember you talking about the time TR turned himself in. What happened to that? I already explained it. I did it later in the show. I hope you kept watching. Are military service records discoverable under FOIA? I don't know. I've never tried to get them. I really don't know. You were so close to me, my BM, in Southern California. You were this close to meeting your favorite fan from California. Hope you enjoyed the weather. I'll be honest. I enjoyed the weather we left the day we left. It was hot the rest of the week. I mean, really hot. The wedding was a scorcher, but that's okay. It was beautiful, but I was sweating. The FOIA thing for the military records, I think they're private for a specific amount of time. I don't know if it's 50 years, 60 years, but I just saw that one come by. You can't ask for, you can't FOIA current military records. There's some type of time limit on those. Okay. Fair enough. I'll allow it. I will allow it because we have the number one fan from Appomattox, Virginia, and that has a key role in the Civil War. So it's on brand. It's Trad Rene. It's right in line with what we're talking about. Welcome back, Bubba Bayroll. Thanks to you and Daisy and Mrs. C for sharing you with us. Wishing you a great week. I'm wishing you a great week, Texas mom. Shawnee, look at that. Shawnee, sometimes you're a woman of few words. A woman of few words. But thank you very much. I appreciate that. Very kind of you. Here's a few nickels. Let's enjoy. Let's ignore Mr. Pickles. I think that's my plan going forward unless something ridiculous happens. He's gotten too much airtime for someone who has no connection to this case. He just has an opinion on the case. I mean, so what? I can't get enough of the investigation, but I feel like we're giving this admin a pass. I miss the in-depth investigations Republicans used to do. Oh, I had a check this out. I had this pulled up today because I shared. I had this screenshot on Twitter. Over two-thirds of Americans disapprove of President Trump's handling of Iran war. That's two and three. Four and five say the war has increased food and gas prices. Guys. If the Republicans stumble in November, don't come looking at your humble host and people like me. Don't come looking. Not our fault. Not our fault. His picture would still be up there. But. But for the Iran war. Keep that in mind. Two beautiful souls were missed terribly every day. I love you so much. Can't wait to see you again. Marty, dad. Brenda, grandma. My grandma and I shared a birthday. Well, I know your birthday is December 9th. Thank you, Tara the Terror. No. CEO made Penguich maybe an alibi. If he wasn't there, it doesn't look good. I just could not disagree more. What she did was report eyewitness testimony, putting him somewhere. If he wasn't there, then the eyewitness was wrong. How's that? I mean, that doesn't look bad. Welcome back, my B. PT sucks still. And yes, I'm doing it good. Moon God is good. Breaks my heart. But I think about what TPSA is doing to Charlie's legacy is telling us who the real Charlie was. Candace spoke of how Charlie spoke about her brand when she was marrying George Farmer. It's bothered me ever since. I think he was on board with more than. We like to think. So there have been rumors that their next move is to try to release a bunch of information trying to demonstrate that Charlie somehow thought poorly of Candace. I think that will backfire. I think that will pretty much cement Charlie as having a bad legacy because publicly he was very supportive and publicly he said very kind things and publicly he said they were friends and he would never turn his back on her and that they disagreed about some things. But. I mean, I disagree with Mrs. Coleman on some not much, actually. Maybe something every now and then. And I think it'll be a bad look. I think it'll be a bad look. I hope they don't go that route because it'll I think it will harm Charlie's legacy. And it seems like right now they're more worried about harming Candace than protecting Charlie. It's plausible deniability create the distance between TPSA and the information. So if it doesn't fly, they don't own it. Well, that's what happened with the alibi pick. It was. Eric is supposed alibi pick for September 8th. And it ended up being September 9th. And then people start saying, wait a minute. It doesn't look like her kids. Kids look too old. And then finally, like, yeah, at first they were like, no, those are definitely her kids. And if I like, OK, it's not one of her kids in her kids. OK. OK. You don't just get a pass on that, guys. It's her pick. She gave it to Andrew Kovac. Kovac gave it to some failed podcaster. And now you're now you're just like, yeah. Not really the alibi we thought it was, but whatever. I have a feeling Andrew and Blake are both happy. I don't have positive evidence. And I don't know. No, but I know. Well, that's your opinion. Your opinion. But I will say this. Well, no, I'm not going to say. Bear, we missed you. I actually went back and rewatched the Google Trends to get my husband hooked. Those episodes are still amazing. And you have new fans in my family. Wild to watch those now after all we've learned. Thank you. As always, Christ is king indeed. I hope you've noticed the set has improved a little since then. The technology in the room has upped tremendously since those days. Brian Harpole said he heard two sounds, the gun and then the sound of it hitting Charlie. The bullet was traveling faster than the speed of sound. That can't be true. It's the opposite. I have heard that argument. I have also noticed in the video footage I've watched, you hear the crack a frame or two before you hear it. Before the shirt moves and everything happens. And certainly before you see any damage to the neck. So I've also noticed that the one-two is backwards. I don't know what an expert witness will make of that. Blairsville, Georgia loves you. Middle Tennessee loves you. B, love your channel and great content. You have had great shows. Leave your chat with Owen. Takes top billing. Tip of the hat to that. Kudos and keep going. Max with Candace and others on the side. Looking for truth. Crisis King. Indeed. Thank you. I thought that was good. That actually, by 20%, I went back and looked at all the member shows. By 20%, that was the most concurrent people we've ever had watching a member show. There were 20% more people watching that concurrent throughout the whole show than there have ever been on any other member show. It was wildly popular. And I think it has more views than any member show we've ever had. Total views. And that means some people went back and watched it twice. Because we actually have more views this time than members. That doesn't happen every time. Andrew Wilson is like a sideshow at the circus. The more we give him attention, the more the propagandists win. Time to ignore him or we play into their hands and people lose interest in finding the truth of 910 PSYOP 101. I'm about done falling into that trap. We've wasted too much time talking about it. Maybe off topic, but have you suggested your favorite name increase to? Candice. Would love to see her face. Missed you bunches, but glad you had a great vacay. Welcome back to God's time and God's country. Indeed. Welcome back, indeed. No, I'm not one of those people that suggest names to people. If I do, it's always my name. And I got one friend fell for it. And that kid's actually in college now, I think, or out of high school. So I haven't had anyone name their kid Baron in a long time. Although one of the commenters said, they named a kid Baron. So there's a name Baron lives. Name Baron lives on. It's shant die with your humble host. But no, I've not recommended any names to. I stay out of people's parenting if I can. If I can. Sometimes I can't. Sometimes you just got to say something. I missed you, my B. Had to watch your show with Owen three times to get by. The withdrawals are real. And Daisy, answer the phone. Love you guys. Crisis King. Indeed. Daisy, I can't even get her to answer my calls. Oh, are you talking about when I called her this morning? I think there's, I think they're talking about that. Yeah. I thought this person also was trying to reach you. But yeah, no, I called the inimitable Daisy this morning and she didn't answer. But she did screen cap the phone call and posted on Twitter. So there's that. I called him back, but I was taking care of something. That's funny. Eventually call back. Yes, I'll answer the phone. Sure. If postpartum mental health struggles are accepted as grounds to negate criminal responsibility, what precedent does that set for family law? So I think that's a psyop. I think it's a psyop. I'm going to speak very carefully here because I do not want the pushback from YouTube or Big Pharma. Maybe you can read in between the lines with what I'm thinking. I think there's false binary. that we're somehow supposed to choose between she's 100% criminally liable or mere postpartum issues are enough to let women do anything they want or excuse any ill behavior. And I think that's a false binary. This woman was on a tremendous schedule of pharmaceuticals over a very short period of time, like a couple of three months. And nobody wants to talk about that. Nobody in the news wants to talk about it because half their advertising comes from Big Pharma. And I'm not suggesting Big Pharma played a role. I'm just saying I don't accept that false choice. I think all available options are on the table. And if she's found not guilty by some mental deficiency or some, I can't remember what they call it in Massachusetts, but if she's found not guilty because of the mental component, it does not necessarily mean it's from the postpartum. It could mean it's from. Other stuff. Hey, Baron Curious on LC. I don't know who that is. She appeared precise with the band, but the knife episode severed no major vessels. Is that week in the go? What is happening here? I have no idea. Okay, I think it's Lindsay Clancy. Oh, yeah, okay. And the gym, I guess gym band. And then the other emoji would be. Is that a gym? It looks like a butterfly or something. Well, it's like a. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. He's holding a weight bar over his head. Oh, he's snatching. Sure, yeah. Did he lock it out? I can't tell. I wish I could tell you. Ah, that's three lights. Yes, locked it out. There it is. All right, what are we doing here? So, Lindsay Clancy, I don't know. We're not keeping up with that case. I'm not. Yeah, I'm not going to comment on it. I don't know enough. I just know that they're deliberating. And I know there was some. Are they still? Yeah, yeah, yeah. They went home today. Oh, interesting. Going into day four tomorrow. Barron, they are squirming in their chairs because they know we know what we're close to doing. Keep up the good work. Charlie deserves the truth. Why is the. I can't see these things, guys. They're tiny. I am on an 11-inch monitor that is like four feet away from me. I can't see anything on this screen. It's a stake in a house. Okay. Oh, stake in a house. And then we have eyewitness. Okay. Why are these. Why is the steakhouse owner even talking? He was not there. Drives me crazy. Server is an eyewitness. His claim should be investigated. Yeah, I don't know why the steakhouse owner is talking. I know why. Because it suits their purpose. He's willing to tell people that he doesn't think he was there. And they're going, Ah, we got him. We got him. If USU was a potential backup for UVU, which had no evening event, was there an evening event at USU? I think there was. Actually, I don't remember. But I will say this. The USU event, I can't find anywhere on campus that's comparable. They have a tiny little outdoor theater thing, and there's really no courtyard or anything where they would have it. And so if you're believing it's a conspiracy and that this was a backup, and I'm not stating that as fact, I'm just suggesting that it's an option that should be explored. It might be that it had to be indoors. Because it's really not a suitable outdoor place. I don't know. I looked at the campus. I don't even know where they would have held it outdoors. The reason TPSA is using third-party people is because if the truth comes out as facts, as we've speculated, they can say, well, we didn't say it. They did. It protects them from being called liars, in my opinion. I mean, where do you think they got this stuff? My B for Super Chat. I had to go back and watch all your old videos while you were gone. You have become one of my faves. Keep fighting for truth. Oh, you were the one. I saw some of those. I went back and looked. And I saw some of the old videos had a little extra play, and I didn't know if someone. I kept looking on X for why are people watching this old video? Because there were like two or three in particular that had abnormally high views. Like the old videos might get 100 views a day or 10 views a day or whatever. But there were a couple of them that had several hundred views, and I was like, what is happening? Where are all these views coming from? But then I realized that's what I do when people are gone. I go back and watch their old stuff. One of two. My B, talking to someone like AW, is the equivalent. I love trying to nail Jell-O to a wall. Waste of time. Agreed. Agreed. TP USA has a six-pointed satanic star flag Saturday. Roger that. I don't understand what it means that the evidence has to be viewed most favorable to the state. Please explain. God bless you, Daisy, Mrs. Coleman, Candace, and her family. Oh, this is easy. I'll be happy to. Can I take this? Okay, I'll take it. So, when you give evidence, let's say there's evidence. It was spotted in Southern California this weekend. But it's an eyewitness, and they say, you know, it looked like him. He was wearing an Adidas hoodie. A sharp man, very dashing, very handsome man, walking around the streets of La Jolla, California, ducking in and out of a little Middle Eastern bakery. Saw him walk into a Catholic church. If you put that on as evidence, and you say, I'm pretty confident it was Barron, they're required to believe that. Now, if the defense gets up there and says, oh, but that was a tennis ball green Adidas hoodie. He doesn't even have one of those anymore. He hasn't seen that in months. He said he got a stain on it, and he quit wearing it. Couldn't get the stain out. That's a fact. I couldn't. It doesn't matter. The state has produced evidence, eyewitness testimony, that they think it was Barron. I think I was there. And even though the defense has put on maybe even equally compelling or maybe even more compelling evidence that I wasn't there, the fact that they met their burden puts me in Southern California for the purpose of this hearing. The conflicting evidence, as long as it doesn't totally destroy this evidence, as long as it needs to be weighed, has to be weighed in favor of the state. Now, if you have phone records of me, I'm on TV, in New York City, I'm on video. I documented my whole trip on an old movie. I got a VCR-type camera on my shoulder. But if it's just overwhelming evidence, if the evidence is so overwhelming that this becomes incredible, unable to be believed, well, then the judge is not required to view it in the light most favorable to the state. But as long as it meets that minimum burden and there's any kind of an issue, in other words, a jury would have to determine, yeah, but that guy was wearing a tennis ball green hoodie. And Barron doesn't wear that anymore. He got a stain on it. Surely he wouldn't wear that in public. He'd look like a slob. They're not allowed to weigh the evidence. That's what it means. Light most favorable to the state means if there's any weighing that has to be done, it's going to be resolved in favor of the state. Now, how do we apply that to Tyler Robinson? If you want to say that he was in Panguitch, well, they've got evidence via text message that says he's sitting outside of the wood line, in Orem, that has to be weighed. We can't weigh it in favor of the defense. So why would the defense even put it on? Does that make sense? Because even if there's an eyewitness putting him in Orem, I mean in Panguitch, there's an eyewitness testimony that he's at Cowboy Smokehouse in Panguitch. But there's a text message that says he's in Orem. A jury would have to weigh that. Therefore, it has to be found in favor of the state. That's what that means. All evidence and all inferences must be viewed in the light most favorable to the state. Conflicting evidence that must be weighed. Not conflicting evidence is so overwhelming this is no longer believable. But evidence that must be weighed. Conflicting evidence that must be weighed must be weighed in favor of the state. God bless you, Daisy, Ms. So much has come out about TP and the people in the org. What are your thoughts on CK and who he's surrounding himself with? Why these kind of people? Trafficking, liars, odd military, and more naive? Potentially. Potentially. One of two things. Either he had. I'm a delegator. Like, if I hand you something to do, I'm not following up. Just tell me how it went. I had some employees along the way who hated that. They couldn't stand it. They'd never been given that much freedom before. They'd never been given that much autonomy before. And, in fact, at the last place I worked, there was one girl that worked for me around my team. I don't want to say for me, but she worked on my team. And, at first, she was like, I don't like you as a boss. You give me no direction, no follow-up. All you do is answer questions that I have. Like, I need day-to-day direction. I'm like, well, you need a new job because I'm not giving it to you. You will never get that from me. I wouldn't have hired you if I thought you were incompetent. If I thought you needed day-to-day direction, you know, come up with something to do. Find something to do. You know? Make it valuable. Let me know what you're doing. I'll meet with you once every week or two, and we'll talk. Talk about what you're doing. And, if you can't do that, then go work somewhere else. And, maybe Charlie was that way. Maybe Charlie just delegated things and just said, Tyler, boy, you run the place. I'm not going to, you know, you're the COO, big dog. You run it. You run it. And then, later, Justin Strife will be the COO. He'll run it. And, they just bring on people around them, and Charlie doesn't really, not that he doesn't have a say, he just doesn't participate. He doesn't choose to have a say. And that's possible. I've thought about that. leadership style is like your humble host that's very possible very because that could happen to me if i ran a business that big because i just turn stuff over i'm not following you day to day i'm thinking big stuff here i'm not i'm not dealing with the day-to-day uh that's why you hire people if i want to deal with the day-to-day i'll just do the day-to-day um i won't hire you so i've thought about that but i've also thought about it's possible that charlie was so enamored with the benefits he was willing to overlook a lot of shady activity so i don't know which i don't know which josh carr who is josh carr josh carr was invited wonder if it was ek he doesn't like co clearly and it's from our own great intro baron i don't know who that is um so i can't comment on that uh and thank you for the great intro thank you for the compliment uh we need to make it known that if something happens to tr he's innocent and they want to make sure a trial doesn't happen maybe that keeps him alive i don't think that changes anything uh if trial proceeds will tr have to enter a plea since he's being held without a plea will it be at a separate hearing yes and yes there'll be a plea hearing uh there's a guy on youtube who makes videos about bricks and minifigs stealing legos from someone in utah you get a great look at the good old voice system in utah into outsiders worth a watch 100 we've had probably two dozen commenters uh comment that same thing and i agree he does a good job whatever happened to the gag order love you might be um i believe it's still in effect but it's been narrowed over time pickles is the master of gish galloping and sea lioning he uses this tactic to wear you down he isn't debating he isn't seeking the truth he is seeking control your exhaustion is his power it's a trap speaking of sea lions we saw a lot of sea lions on the beach um this weekend and they smell bad i've never been that close to them before they stink they're the worst smelling things i've ever smelled no yeah they smell like rotting garbage wow that ruins my whole life yeah i see them as like these cute little like water dogs they are they stink they smell terrible wow they're horrific i mean it's almost a shame it almost takes away from the allure of going to look at them terrific do what i was laughing you said it was horrific it was it was horrific it was a crime i felt assaulted my olfactory system was assaulted and i got a big nose i got a big nose so i can smell really well like i've got a superpower and they oh it was it was almost unbearable i don't know if you've ever been around sea lions and wall uh not walrus what are they called yeah well uh sea lions it was the other thing they had there seals seals seals and sea lions they smell so bad you can't stand it horrible uh but they're they're cute they're cute nurse casey she's an official of her own timeline that's correct that's correct okay so tr wasn't in pangwich wink wink i don't know if he was or not please please make some merch with i'll allow it that's on the list it's on the list uh best pod and host out sorry if mentioned but when charlie drops the mic his hand open with myotonia like symptoms they can show after electrocuted i agree there's something that happened to his body because if his c2 to c7 was obliterated on the left side and his um spinal cord in that region was traumatically absent those are the quotes we got out of the medical examination how's he holding on the mic how's he sitting up how's he flexing his hands oh something weird's going on there thought the restaurant witness stated another employee had collaborated his statement um yeah i think she got i think she waffled i don't know maybe not maybe she's maybe she's been consistent from the beginning but i do remember early on it seemed like both of them thought he was there and now one of them does and one doesn't know uh aw's a nobody that's the nicest thing about him he's a belligerent hole everyone needs to stop supplying oxygen tpsa next paid shill please uh yeah i'm ready for the next one they've gone through a few so far i just don't know who the next one will be i didn't see smoke boy coming either though i watched the debate with diligent denizen he was outstanding smoke boy got smoked oh indeed indeed it wasn't even close my official super chat thank you danny uh andrew wilson interviewed the owner of cowboy smokehouse owner pretty much now denying everything you need to watch it i just did a whole show on this what time did you send that 7 23. i was 53 minutes into the show at that point i have watched it well i watched highlights and watch the whole thing um you you can't deny anything if you weren't there like if if i'm not in lexington kentucky right now i can't deny who's in lexington kentucky i'm not there uh timeline equals murder map uh okay baron cowboy server says in diligence interview the dude he sure was tyler had two beers with his meal but eat they say is his reads charges for the steak and potato with a soft drink i don't know what to think about that well you got that wrong as well wasn't steak and potato was steak and vegetables um i think i have to go back and look at it i've got it on my phone um i've got the unedited version on my phone somewhere let me be right about this um hold please uh uh where is it man i got a lot of pig oh here it is um oh it just says sirloin steak it doesn't say uh potato um yeah it does say soft drink but here's the deal this guy said he just helped like he visited the table a few times and he was sitting at the bar and i think it's pretty common you think someone sits at the bar probably has some beers i'm willing to give him a pass on that like he didn't know what was in his drink or whatever i don't i don't know what to say about that i am so excited for the day all podcasters go about a month go back about a month to the wonderfully beautiful days before we heard about smoke boy i taste a little vomit every time i hear his voice yeah your humble host is about to about done covering him be honest with you in my opinion the harassment towards the steakhouse staff who seem genuinely anxious scared is most likely from those who did or aided in the big bang the witnesses and receipt are massive loose ends that would need to be silenced well that's you raise an excellent point lydia b anyone who's harassing this establishment anyone who's causing this establishment any kind of harm certainly aren't people who are on the tyler robinson didn't do it train because this is evidence that he didn't do it i mean it's evidence he wasn't where he said he was when he sent the supposed text messages so the only harassment would be coming from the pro tyler did it side i would think i can't state that for certain but i would think that's the only thing that makes sense in my mind um what are we all right why are we quoting the tennessee code uh make present or use any record document or thing with knowledge of his falsity and with the intent that'll be taken as a genuine government record who's who's representing something as a genuine government record i don't know i'm not aware of anybody no context any context by the same token ek is responsible for anything to do with anything negative about tpsa so if co is hurt they're responsible just saying uh i'm not sure that either i'm not sure i believe that either hey b and daisy may i please know the author of the stop smoking book alan carr a-l-l-e-n-c-a-r-r the easy way to stop smoking there are too many christ is king we have already won hallelujah hallelujah indeed uh glad you had a nice getaway glad you're back but secretly hoped you visited maine edge wink back at you i caught up with zach and matt in addition to prayer how can we keep tr safe that's it that's all you got unless you're going to join the utah county sheriff's office uh i'm uncharitable to people who will change their opinion for money i do say what i want and i try to do say things i'm proud to claim same witness testimonies are wrong on small facts like color shoes and a quick act an hour an hour of looking at someone it likely strengthens the testimony uh i don't know what that means uh diligent denizen could have argued back on the official timeline being ceo's personal timeline in the same way the aw changed the meaning of overwhelming to it's convincing to me also can we all please ignore ignore this ankle-biting slimy narcissistic man-child uh yeah i i do intend to do that but this was such a beautiful dismantling of this guy and a complete demonstration of i think what what i consider dishonest debate tactics changing the words like that changing the meaning of overwhelming to eh i'm 75 to 85 convinced well that's not overwhelming sir you know that's fraud you said you were going to debate whether it was overwhelming and you didn't even try to do that my manager demanded any of my thoughts reviewed by her before speaking i'm a senior software analyst why would a manager need a thought approval and keep you hired think about it while it's still legal i don't know it's above my pay grade take it up with hr there's some nitty hr professional out there just waiting to get involved i promise taking down ck resulted in more people raising and asking questions i don't think taking down co to silence her will result in people getting quiet oh i agree i agree and you'll have a investigation into her on top of this one seems mr eyebrows is in good with tpsa now so maybe he's the one who sent smoke boy after co as long as he hates co welcome back the detox was good but we're glad you're back crisis king indeed i hope you didn't detox too much don't over detox ladies and gentlemen don't over detox uh it's bad for your health bad for your health um yeah i didn't even consider the fact that maybe uh maybe eyebrows is the one that sent smoke boy on the loose wow 40 minutes on how penguins doesn't matter okay roger um do they use a buffer that's not why i did the 40 minutes the 40 minutes was about his dishonest debate tactics it wasn't about that it didn't matter it was about his dishonest debate tactics it wasn't about that it didn't matter so pay attention but watch close it's a high q outfit sir or ma'am high q outfit i don't have time to come down to low iq people and explain everything you got to pay attention keep up do they use a buffer so they can later go back and claim the info was misrepresented or even hearsay uh maybe maybe i believe we need to see pickle boy's one day contract with tpsa no way he spent one day showing tpsa how to use logical fallacies spending way too much time to make tpsa's point crisis king is the one who sent smoke boy after co indeed i'm not going to ask for his private contract he's not a public employee uh my thinking is candace's official timeline is more accurate and honest than anything we'd ever get from our elected officials um i tend to believe that i that's my opinion so glad to have you back sir prayers for my parents as they said bye to their 12 year old dog today to aggressive cancer i'll re-watch in the morning just not in the right mindset jesus loves us all i'm sorry to hear that your parents 12 year old dog uh brant sent tried to establish an organized structure in her expose who's brant i don't know who brant is uh baron and daisy please look into dray dossier charlie kirk data machine she found there was a tip line for charlie set up before 9 10 um i actually talked to her about that that's not what she found i had that same question for her because it kind of came across that way what she said was the infrastructure was in place so that the tip line was readily deployable um on a moment's notice but i don't think she's saying the tip line itself was set up uh widow here number one fan from san diego yes it was hot next time you and mrs seer in town hit me up dinners on me where did you go to mass christ is king indeed go max i'm not going to tell you that now that i told the uh the the priest joke i'm not going to tell you and i can tell you i'll make you wonder ab i'm watching from australia still laughing about candace saying to smoke boy i made it at home yeah yeah so it's her opinion that's real bays i know real bays talented podcaster baron legal question if they try to use candace's official timeline to go after journalists and content creators would set a legal precedent to use my official einstein list to go after actual criminal activity god bless everybody no it would not set that precedent it would set a horrific precedent that commentators are no longer to offer their opinion about timelines i mean what a horrific precedent that would set you imagine trying to cover the news and not being allowed to to have a timeline to help you keep up with events on a complex case that's where we're headed smoke boy god bless diligent denizen if i hear official timeline one more time i might lose it i think it was important to play it the way we played it the same thing with the positive evidence thing in her um in candace's uh debate with him he it's like he goes in with a single talking point all right all right smoke boy he's looking himself in the mirror all right smoke boy tonight's your night all we're talking about is positive evidence tonight right here smoke boy we're gonna say we're gonna say positive evidence as many times we can next night all right smoke boy get ready you're about to call into diligent denizen come on smoke boy wake up it's late all right here we go you ready official timeline official timeline here we go all right i'm in official timeline official timeline now welcome to the program smoke boy official timeline i'm not a candace fan and i was not into her timeline alley top files you and john made me curious to follow more people i do admire candace for her strength greetings from the netherlands i always wonder where that name came from netherlands i'll allow it beautiful place home of max verstappen same verifiable evidence uh andrew spews against the penguin's trip can be applied to the parents turning tyler in has it been verified go max b crisis king indeed no in fact it has not it's not official is aw's moist andrew wilson is mine thank god christ wins in the end christ is king indeed i never understood people not liking that word but whatever uh why is wilson focused on the steakhouse place in your opinion uh in my opinion i already gave that i mean it's one of two reasons either they're not sure and if it's true it'd be devastating to the case and they have an interest in convicting tyler whether he did it or not so that's option one option two is they know it's not true and so they want to draw as much attention to it as possible before they prove it's not true it's one of those two i can't think of a third option welcome back good sir happy to see you again just wanted to say hello well hola uh hey mr pickle boy circular reasoning much crop i have an official sock drawer that needs renaming thanks pickle boy oh no it can't be the official sock drawer that'll get you sued no it'll get you sued no your socks don't even match sir and you got a hole in the heel of one of them can't have that i don't know if you saw it but the night of the debate smoke boy was trending i took a screenshot i'll send it to you if you want love from houston county i'll send it to you if you want i'll send it to you if you want love from houston county i'll send it to you if you want love from houston county i'll send it to you if you want love from houston texas crisis king indeed no i didn't see that that's amazing i wish you could find historical trending things just so you could look back and see what was trending on certain days andrew sounds like my three-year-old and five-year-old when they argue have you ever seen that video of it's sprinkling no it's waning no it's sprinkling no it's waning it's sprinkling it's waning and then the one guy pokes him he goes you hurt my heart that's a great video Can't stand Smokeboy. I can't stand any grandstanders. Hey, my B, Smokeboy's keeping everyone busy trying to guess his BS strategy instead of focusing back on investigating who, how, and why. We're going to get on that tomorrow. Official timeline is hereby renamed the canonical chronographic progression. You know the Atlantic Ocean was once called the Sea of Kronos? You didn't know that, did you? You know Saturn was once called Kronos? Didn't know that either, did you? I can't stand Smokeboy's voice. Well, that makes two of us. My mom said it's like Andrew gets stuck on stupid. First it was positive evidence, now it's official timeline. Also, hi mom, puppy whoopee, we love you, B. All right, puppy whoopee, hi indeed, love you more. The attorney that signed the alibi letters, Todd McMurtry from Kentucky, who defending, Nick Sandman, so fits perfectly the idea of his reasoning for doing this. He didn't defend Nick Sandman. He represented Nick Sandman as a plaintiff. Opposite role, other side of the V. Love this amazing community, our humble host, the best researcher ever. My six-year-old son is out of the hospital and breathing much easier. Ragweed exacerbated his asthma. Very thankful for all your prayers and encouragement. Thank you. I'm glad to hear he's doing better. As a fellow asthmatic, I know how it feels to not breathe. It's terrifying. EF's fam has been largely scrubbed from Ancestry site. Needs more attention. Book released by Amazon on September 9th, the day before the shooting of Charlie Kirk by Anastasia J. Casey. He survives in book. Okay, I'll double check that. I mean, I'm familiar with that when it came out. Correction, official timeline, not evidence. Sorry. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. Correction noted. I already made it for you. Could have saved yourself $2. Tedbits. Amazon claims release date was a typo when book was written by AI. Still proof that plan was present on internet if AI collected data to write book. Author's name, Jamatria888, just like DJT. I don't know what that means. Raising smoke, boy, had to be so exhausting. I'm not going to comment. Baron, I reckon all you guys, podcasters, should hang official. Lists in their background, i.e. official potty training schedule. God bless. Oh, potty training schedule's easy. Take a weekend off. Do it before they're two. I'm waiting for someone to ask Smokeboy if he believes TR was at Chick-fil-A and if he does believe it, where's the positive evidence? Do you have any positive evidence of that? He always does that, like, look up thing. He's got his hand on his cheek all the time because he's not sure of himself. Then he looks up. You have any positive evidence? Like, he's surprised you just said it? I remembered to say it, boss. Ha, ha, ha, ha. Uh. A CCTV receipt, et cetera. This guy is such a doo-doo something. I see the doo-doo. Looks like a little brown pyramid with eyes. It's like a chocolate cone, soft serve. What is your avi? Is it you looking like a, it says I'm watching? Unacceptable. I, too, was obsessed with Pickle's obsessive use of the phrase official timeline. I watched the X-Space three times. Despite the fact that Pickle's smoky voice and insufferably rotten attitude make my ears bleed. Sound like a masochist. Have you done a Google trend search on the term positive evidence in the days leading up to Candace's debate in the state of Arizona, Utah, or D.C. Metro? I have not. I have not. I think we're clear on Smokeboy's kinks, Pickle's, Candace's official timeline, and positive evidence. I don't want to think about it. I'm losing IQ points listening to Smokeboy. I'm done. See ya. Thank you to Coleman family and Daisy. Love you, my B. In the voice of Dalek, official timeline, official timeline. Who's Dalek? Dalek. A fictional extraterrestrial race and the British science fiction. Television Doctor Who. Roger that. I'm not British. I could talk like it if I need to. Welcome back. Sound like a British rapper. That's kind of funny. Welcome back, man. Following LC case closely. All the usual fed sloppers think her insanity defense is BS. And it's clear. They haven't listened to any of the trial of a Maria or a pro novice. Yeah, I've been very curious why the people who are insistent that Tyler Robinson be convicted are the same people insistent Lindsay Clancy be convicted. There seems to be very little overlap. My point is it is a multi-agency plot, but there will never be proof. Because the people who control the proof are the people who are, are potentially in the plot. Everyone is giving a smoke boy airtime. Just as Hunter Biden. We're done with these jokers. Don't give them time of day. Christ is King. Indeed. Indeed. Uh, smoke boy needs to be ignored completely by everyone trying to investigate CK case. Black balled, zero attention for this scumbag. His intentions are clear and he's the villain in the story. Christ is King. Indeed. Yeah. I'd already kind of agreed in my mind before starting this program tonight that this was the last I'm going to talk about. But it was just such a beautiful takedown diligent shared the defense Nester has worked on off for the feds for 21 years. Very concerned for Tyler. Now I'm praying for you in our country. Christ is King. Indeed. Um, that, uh, that's not a bother to me. Uh, everyone needs to stop giving smoke boy airtime. Not worthy of it. Glad you're back. Love you. My B Christ is King. Indeed. Do you recall hearing a few months ago that the owner of the steakhouse is friends with Phil Lyman? Um, yeah, but I've not heard from him. I've not seen any, do you have any positive evidence of that? No, I didn't think so. I didn't think so. My B hoping you enjoyed your time off. I did. Can you look at the FBI in Utah for the trailer that we checked on a while back? I tried and found a few trailers there, maybe something related to check out. I also tried and found a few trailers, but I didn't find that trailer or that box truck where the FBI needed to confirm. If they have CC statements. I mean, FBI prosecutors and defense already know if CC was used there or not. Well, you don't know that you don't know that they already know. And I believe in his interview, I don't want to say, I don't want to say this cause I'm not, I'm not sure I'm right about this, but I think there was some mentioned that the defense had called the owner and the owner didn't answer and they never called back, which am I correct on that? Yeah, I think it was the most recent call that smoke boy had shared and, um, it was during a time, I think it was after the interview with diligent that had been, that had gone around the owner said that they were getting a lot of calls, spam calls, even I think threats and that, yes, they got a call from someone that claimed to be part of the defense and no, they did not call back. He said there was just a lot going on and he wasn't sure. He didn't have a way to validate that. I'm going to leave it there. Uh, AW is all bad faith. Now, let me go back to this for a second. If the, if everyone knew he wasn't there, why would the defense be calling him? Now this, I mean, this goes right to the heart of the, he wasn't there narrative. Why is the defense calling the smoke house? If they they're confident he wasn't there. I mean, the fence is busy. They're not wasting their time on it. AW is all bad faith. I had the pleasure of being in the space when diligent smoked himself some pickles and it was worth me staying up all night. I had a feeling you were there. Love you be in Daisy. Christ is King. Indeed. I was there. That was one of the hundreds or thousands of Anons who were listening. I don't like to listen with my name on the board because they'll not, I don't think they would have there, but a lot of times they'll try to pull me up as a speaker. And sometimes I just want to listen. I don't want to, unless you want to talk all day on this thing. Welcome back Baron. Hope you enjoy the wedding. I did. Thank you. What is that? Is it a rabbit? Is that a cat? An M on the head? What is it like a cute little, like a weasel of sorts or like weasel in weasel? That's clearly an M right? I see the M M weasels, the M weasels. I don't know. Maybe let's not go with the weasel. If I find out, I'll let you know. All right. I'm going to assume it's not the M weasels. Uh, went to New York city to visit. Our son came home to my allegedly. T-shirt and didn't miss a podcast either crisis King. Indeed. Well, you had a perfect weekend. Sounds like official timeline for Andrews. 15 minutes of fame is up. He can't remember one official charge against CR, but he's quite the expert on Candace's timeline. Erica needs to call her dogs off until they are trained better. Well, this has been an embarrassment. Honestly, his, his effort has been an embarrassment. You think he'd win one debate, like if you're hired to be a debater, you have this reputation as debater, at least one one. Yeah. I mean, I think he's, I think he's, you know, he's, he's a good guy. I mean, I think he's, I think he's, I think he's a good guy. I mean, I think he's, I think he's a good guy. I mean, I think he's a good guy. I think he's a good guy. would have been destroyed um well you've got a great last name so let's start with that and your son is remarkable if i do say so myself um but i can't imagine either but i honestly don't know i don't know how they uh i don't know how i don't know what their retention policy is and all that i think smoke boy deserves to be put in official timeline for coming out as a bad actor love you b we missed you um hang on a second oh please guys while he's doing that i would like to apologize to the michigan wolverines for calling you weasels it's you're the wolverines um go wolves and uh you're the wolverines um go wolves and uh i'll never do it again i'll never do it again hail to the victor yeah and hail to the conquering heroes hail hail michigan um i apologize they're not the m weasels they're the michigan wolverines it won't happen again guys but i will notice that the indiana hoosiers are the reigning national champions from the big uh let's see here mr positive evidence official timeline that's his new nickname peot p-e-o-t peot i'm gonna call him peot from now on uh shut up can you can you block him or whatever silence him for a little while i'll unstar them yeah it's official we will stop for a steak and panguage when we move our son back home in december from oram utah to arizona and we'll see you in the next one bye bye hey look i'm sure they have great food be respectful don't bring up tyler don't try to talk to anybody about it and enjoy yourself that's all i would say um i too would like to go visit at some point i'm scared to go to utah after this case any good evidence ck was shot and vita said shot uh well i mean i think people colloquially say that and if erica had any say in it obviously she has a interest in in the shot narrative uh andrew wilson recorded steakhouse owners saying this case is bad for business and that is employees should not have talked about this on the job and that tyler was not there disputing the two servers um i don't know agreed i agree i guess agreed i'm taking your word for it okay baron had uh baron been picking up on the same double standard hypocrisy since the debate with candace he wraps everything up in buzzwords and his crazy delusions of grandeur great to be here and curious christ is king indeed zeesh godwin i don't know what that means i'm gonna use you eventually i'm in pa my daughter and husband to be are taking in a beautiful two-year-old with a bad mother i'm gonna need your advice just a heads up thanks uh you're not gonna get it from me i don't do business with people that watch me on podcasts i used my rule used to be if you heard me on the radio i'm not gonna work with you now i gotta say if you saw me in a podcast i'm not gonna work with you it would be helpful if you explain the nature significance of exculpatory evidence i.e if you're not going to work with me i'm not going to work with you i'm not going to work with you true equals evidence of innocence but if false does not equal evidence of guilt well that i thought that's axiomatic but we could talk about it uh exculpatory evidence doesn't even make equal innocence it can even be just tends to lessen the likelihood um so exculpatory evidence does not have it's not so narrowly defined that that if true it means you didn't commit the crime it could mean if true it lessens the likelihood you committed the crime but obviously if false it just has no bearing on the case so that's i didn't know i had to explain that man versus smoke boys no way feds are investigating this candace higher pi slip in info to defense i wish she could would uh this is interesting you say this i think it's actually better to slip info to the prosecutor for the exact reason that that person just mentioned any exculpatory evidence that the state has in its possession or that they know of has to be turned over to the defense and you'll get a record of it because they will you it'll happen so um giving evidence to the prosecution actually i think has more value than giving it to the fence remember the photo with him with phone while on stairs what are we talking about i don't know what you're talking about uh why is his phone in federal custody if it's a state case why is the gun in federal custody positive evidence now lives in the same category as nails on a chalkboard for me yes do you have any positive evidence of that's in now in that category any positive evidence it's like i think that's where terrell farmsworth got that move remember he was like he did alf uh my b you were in socal at hottest time of the year we're all melting with you here oh that rhymed i don't know if you knew that anyway i love and support 100 but i worry that some super safe things that might incriminate you they sound sketchy i am oh god bless you and your family uh a super is someone else's opinion not mine or someone else's statement of fact not mine uh laurie was gravely ill how does she get permission i mean you can be gravely ill and still be very with it mentally oh forgot to report the arrival of decoy and love the length i almost went full michael's got there but edge i'm respecting you and i'm not doing it it's a family show family show the eye heart rbc is on the short side for me but decoy is just right oh duly noted duly noted edge good feedback isn't the letter claiming ek and mother with a facility while mother was receiving treatment is a hippo violation no no i explained that um i explained that already i just want to say i love jesus christ forever and always i am an empath and a bit psychic what am i thinking how many fingers my hold on huh how many fingers the answer is zero that's a trick question uh and from what i know they've shown me charlie says they were all in on it even erica what's your opinion are you sold out of decoy shirts not on site that i can see if sold out is there an eta from nurse casey on when they will be available again well let's go through this together because um we'll find out if they're sold out or not uh bear with me while i pull up how to find merch so you go to real baron podcast.com and click the merch button up here on the top boom takes you to merch go over here the view all button boom view all and scroll down looking at all this beautiful merch and there's your decoy shirt ladies and gentlemen it's a bit beautiful if i do say my say so myself and it's a great length edge you're right that's a perfect length what a great length of shirt very much not sold out still in stock get yours while they last it's a great length that's a great length it's a great length it's a great length it's a great length if laurie and erica both give their consent to release the clinic visit why do we need witness testimony saying they were there uh because witness i mean generally speaking most people view a witness as more neutral than the interested party so i think it carries more weight youtube won't let me send the message i want to send well shame on you for thinking it whatever it was on saturday i waited on two women one old lady and one young lady and i waited on two women one old lady and one young lady and i waited on two women one old lady and i waited on two women one old lady and i waited on two women one middle age and a young man that looked just like tr on two women one middle age and a young man that looked just like tr freak me out so much i wanted to freak me out so much i wanted to freak me out so much i wanted to warn him i'm glad you didn't because that'd warn him i'm glad you didn't because that'd warn him i'm glad you didn't because that'd be weird be weird be weird i'm being honest you know thank you for i'm being honest you know thank you for i'm being honest you know thank you for expressing the absurdity of some random expressing the absurdity of some random expressing the absurdity of some random lawyer commanding the world to accept lawyer commanding the world to accept lawyer commanding the world to accept something as fact i've been laughing something as fact i've been laughing something as fact i've been laughing since it was released since it was released since it was released i think it's more absurd that we're i think it's more absurd that we're i think it's more absurd that we're required to believe that eyewitness and required to believe that eyewitness and required to believe that eyewitness and we're required to accept this we're required to accept this we're required to accept this eyewitness is of no value i think that's eyewitness is of no value i think that's eyewitness is of no value i think that's even more absurd even more absurd even more absurd you and candace can no longer take the you and candace can no longer take the you and candace can no longer take the same week off so plan accordingly same week off so plan accordingly i'll have to talk to her did i have i'll have to talk to her did i have i'll have to talk to her did i have another week off planned in the near another week off planned in the near another week off planned in the near future future future well not near future well not near future well not near future several weeks out several weeks out several weeks out uh my first uh my super the first sent uh my first uh my super the first sent uh my first uh my super the first sent in didn't get read i'm sorry when did in didn't get read i'm sorry when did in didn't get read i'm sorry when did you send it i haven't skipped any that i you send it i haven't skipped any that i you send it i haven't skipped any that i know of know of know of uh gary got a big dummy buddy andrew uh gary got a big dummy buddy andrew uh gary got a big dummy buddy andrew let me help you let me help you let me help you can you find hers by chance can you like can you find hers by chance can you like can you find hers by chance can you like control f and find stephanie kennedy i control f and find stephanie kennedy i control f and find stephanie kennedy i don't know how i don't know if that don't know how i don't know if that don't know how i don't know if that works works works uh gary you got a big dummy buddy uh gary you got a big dummy buddy uh gary you got a big dummy buddy andrew let me help you shut up andrew let me help you shut up andrew let me help you shut up oh oh gary you got a big dummy buddy andrew let me help you shut up oh gary you got a big dummy buddy andrew let me help you shut up oh miss stephanie's here miss stephanie's here miss stephanie's here um i think she means it's literally the um i think she means it's literally the um i think she means it's literally the first one that was sent in so first one that was sent in so first one that was sent in so it would it didn't get uh allocated for it would it didn't get uh allocated for it would it didn't get uh allocated for it like it didn't get it like it didn't get it like it didn't get tagged for us because the stream was tagged for us because the stream was tagged for us because the stream was before the stream started yeah yeah so before the stream started yeah yeah so Yeah, that's good advice. He'll see it later. Yeah, I'll see it after the show because I go back and look, and usually there's a couple that were sent before we started the system on our end and that captures Super Chats. So my advice is if you ever have one that you just absolutely want read on air, not just me privately, make sure the show is started or just about to start because if you send them 20, 30, 40 minutes or an hour or two hours before the show starts, they may not get captured in our system because it's whenever we fire up the system on our end. um and i took a late shower today right before the show so the system was not on uh great episode b why does anyone listen to smoke boy i don't think people do i mean i'm not aware of anyone who does i enjoyed the mem drop and shout out of my town which i am now claiming number one fan of kenosha wisconsin christ is king indeed of course i love kenosha wisconsin lovely this time of year where is mikey mccoy i have not seen him lately i don't know i don't live with mikey i don't i'm not friends with mikey i don't follow mikey i don't know can someone in this skilled audience make a music video of candace and charlie through the years with the song see you again from fast furious love the show b you're definitely the goat of humble host your humble host cannot do that i know nothing about that stuff uh your next guest is mikey mccoy i have not seen him lately i have not seen him lately i don't know next can of alps on me they're the best keep up the great work i have some peppermint right here i have some i have three cans of peppermint a can of tropical fruit and i have a chilled mint which i didn't think i would like and i didn't like at first but they've grown on me at first they were they don't have a flavor they're just cold it's weird like peppermint has a flavor wintergreen has a flavor so i was expecting chilled mint to have flavor no it's just cold i don't know what flavor cold is but that's it it's like purple tastes like a flavor like if you get a purple soda you know what it's gonna taste like it doesn't taste like anything it just tastes like purple that tastes cold i don't know how to explain it it's just cold but thank you thank you very much um and that's gonna cover more than one can by the way thankfully i'm not sure where you live that's one can uh but i appreciate it uh was it mary star the sea or all hallows i'm not gonna answer that question but maybe one of them maybe one of them maybe one of them maybe one of them i have smoke boy fatigue crisis king indeed your humble host included hey my b i was thrilled to see a super chat recently from someone else from dubo ost i ordered another four baron shirts hope to find more your fans in town love all the work you do and daisy i love all the work you and daisy do thank you i appreciate that all the way from dubbo ost ladies and gentlemen unfortunately my husband and i are picking pinching pennies right now we're canceling all memberships and subscriptions looking forward to being able to rejoin the grand jury someday i hope you've enjoyed it while you're here we'll be here waiting when you get back thank you uh pickles b wilson ranks below austin powers villain henchman at this point doesn't he how much longer you think he's got uh well i think he's run his course on this show like we're here to find out who killed charlie kirk how and why we're not here to argue over the definition of overwhelming or whether candace should rename her google doc unofficial timeline or official timeline like that's it's it's fun every now and then to cover something like that but i'm not going to dedicate time to and if if tpsa wants me to cover something they've released and release it yourself i'll have i'll be happy to cover it uh word salad smoke boy and kamala are related uh christ is king indeed i i think um i think erica and kamala are a better fit for word salad uh triggers show yesterday wired media article said andrew calhoun p u c k 47 hat that had been stomped in dirt he was 10 feet from ck 9 10 okay roger that uh you were missed about my sister her welcome mat this is welcome in welcome in welcome in it's an option that should be explored remember jesus loves you it does indeed um that sounds fun i don't know nurse casey can we make welcome mats that sounds fun i want to welcome that a few days ago john cullen was complaining that you received too much money in super chats i decided to double my contribution good to have you back look i that is such a weird um that is such a weird attack on somebody like i super chat people all the time i have a monthly super chat budget you guys know that i'm not gonna tell you what it is but it's significant and the reason is because you guys bless me and i want to bless the people who are out there doing good work and so i send super chats all the time to people i send people super chats all the time to people i send people super people i know i've seen people i don't know i've i sent a super chat the other day on a creator that had less than 100 people watching live i didn't i couldn't believe they were monetized but i was thoroughly enjoying their content i thought it was great um it wasn't about charlie kirk case it was about something totally different and i thought this is great here's a hundo bud enjoy your life and man they were thrilled they were like we've never gotten one over ten dollars i was like well that's 10 of them um i think because if you don't support independent creators they won't be any there just won't be any and so i'm all in favor of of supporting people i've sent trigger smart one i've sent nate one i've sent ian several uh i've sent uh zach costello uh i've sent i don't want to start naming people bays danks i've sent everybody super chats i i think it's it's it's how you know it's that or ben shapiro your call maybe john cullen wants ben shapiro i don't know hey baron whatever happened to russell kennington um that's a good question it's a good question his uh uh there's some good reporting out there on russell kennington maybe we'll maybe we'll daisy let's make a market we need to dive into that a little bit because there was something weird about about that whole thing uh they forget that despite what candace says we were all traumatized by having to watch charlie get unalived that's what makes this different from sandy hook well it's funny you mentioned that i hadn't watched that video in a long time and the other day i wanted to watch it because there was something in particular i was looking for and it had been a long time since i've watched it and i and it took my breath away i forgot what it was like i mean i in my mind i've got it memorized right from every all six or eight angles that we have um but it's like it's like you know a broken bone you can't remember the pain you remember it hurt but you can't remember the pain like i i've trapped traumatically broke my lower left leg uh four years ago and i remember it hurt but i can't remember what it hurt like but i remember it hurt really badly um my wife says the same thing about childbirth if she remembered how childbirth was she wouldn't do it again um and she's done it eight times so obviously you kind of forget but i kind of forgot how it took my breath away and then i saw it i was like oh i mean it was shocking it's gory i'm going to uvu on september 10 and going to wear your decoy shirt i'll send pics also missed you uh talks with tiff i would take a cover just in case they don't let you in with it on and then take your covering off when you get in of course um but yeah i look forward to the pics i look forward to thank you during the debate did you notice how specific aw's hypothetical scenarios were calculated move dude is weird i wasn't going to comment on that because they were so deranged and so dark and twisted that i started wondering like what is he really like who has those examples come to mind i'm not even gonna say i'm on air they're disgusting steakhouse owner and he is a steakhouse owner in a politician any thoughts he was guaranteed to be put in office next election to say tyler wasn't there and thought on smoke boy playing a recording after owner said he did not approve um yeah i don't know uh i'm not going to comment on the vote on this one i did hear the owner say he didn't want it recorded i mean he didn't want it played um but he later said he approved maybe of it being talked about or something i don't know uh next time you're there go to sunset cliffs in san diego watch the sea lions there they do not stink and they're amazing to watch oh sunset cliff has shined up their sea lions they've shampooed them they make sure they're squeaky clean they don't stink those poor homeless la jolla cove sea lions the rats of the bunch is that what you're telling me you guys have good smelling ones stop smoking book worked quit two weeks ago after i read it good luck to everyone else who's trying to quit i might have to get this as you can see i it would be like my 14th time to put down the i'm a professional quitter i started quitting when i was like 15. uh baron i was in la jolla and saw the sea lions and yes they smell horrible whole city does it makes it hard to enjoy eating places around there well i had a different experience i had lovely time in town it was a beautiful place um maybe the wind just wasn't blowing just maybe the wind was blowing just right when you were there but um yeah right down on the on the cove there it's it's smells like gary's breath uh i had to bend your first 20 episodes to stave off withdrawals from your absence please don't leave again well i got bad news i am going to take a few days off in a couple months i've already got it planned so but i'll give you plenty of notes i met brandy not brand she tried to introduce the idea of organized structure in the decentralized investigation sorry for the typo and i don't even really know what that means uh gifted five Mimbos. Ladies and gentlemen, if you've not seen the Owen Benjamin member show that did so well. Now's your chance. Hey, my B. There was no date stating the clinic saw Erica on 9-10. It was implied. So that could give them plausible deniability. Is that true? It says at the time Charlie Kirk was shot. Unless it happened more than once. That's a pretty solid date. Can we take a day to silence the noise on X? Do not respond to BS. Simply post justice for Charlie. You can do whatever you want. Do whatever you want. LOL FYIO for your information only. From an earlier episode, Labrador dog was named after Labrador region where they originated. LOL region was first, then the dog. You made me laugh. Oh. Did I suggest otherwise? Did I say they named the region after the dog? I don't know. I don't remember that episode. I say a lot of stuff. I said, now I do know that this lake that was renamed recently. Oh gosh, what lake was it? They called, they renamed it Lake America. That region in Canada was named, I believe, after the lake, not the other way around. So the lake had a name and then the Canadian region was named after it, I believe. If I'm not mistaken. I thought I read that somewhere. But I could be wrong. Welcome back. I just figured out the super chat. Smoke boy is getting more exposure than he deserves. Please do the Mr. Hop. Mr. Hop. Oh. Keep on digging and exposing the demons be Mr. Hop. Oh, so funny story on my flight back, I thought Mr. Harpo was sitting next to me on the plane like for half the flight. I was convinced, I was convinced. And then I noticed he didn't have any tattoos on his arm. There's no tattoo, you see, but I was convinced. Looked just like Mr. Harpo. You got a doppelganger out there. I did catch his name after I got off the plane. Any patron saints you think I should consider? I'm a landscaping architect. I'm really passionate about impacting people's lives by designing beautiful and meaningful places in my local community, Indy. Oh, you're in Indy? St. Francis. Remember, St. Francis was told, build my church or rebuild my church, maybe anyone out and built a beautiful church. And God was like, no, you big dummy. I'm at the church. So that might work. I don't know. Look that up. Spend some time on that. I don't. I don't know. Building St. Catherine Drexel. She built a lot of missions. She's a builder. She's from America, too. If you're from Indy. So she's kind of a North American. So she's kind of a North American Saint. Mr. Wachuka must have been paying 7,000 for each official timeline. Smoke Boy could fit into that spaces. Well, he got paid well because there's a lot of them. I love the show. Really missing my evening routine. Glad to have you and Candace back. Welcome back. There's a reason why 2PSA will only hire dishonest people. They have something to hide. I don't want to say that. Not everybody they hire is dishonest, but they've got a knack for it. Bear. Sorry, I misspelled La Jolla. That's okay. Made up for it with five gifted memberships. Also makes it hard to enjoy your lunch with that ocean breeze. I felt queasy after eating lunch. I consider the positive evidence La Jolla stinks. Well, I ate up further in town, and it did not smell bad. There's a beautiful place there called Sugar and Spice. I ate breakfast there two days in a row. It was great. A little girly, if we're being honest. It's a little girly, but they have a great little skillet bowl with like, I can't remember what they call it. Some kind of stewed meat in there. It was excellent. Excellent. That and some thin sliced potatoes, and I got a chai tea with a shot of espresso in it. Oh, I was living the high life. Yeah, it was a little girly. It was like pink and purple stuff hanging from the ceiling. That kind of girly. I don't think they intend men to eat there. My B. You did promise a follow up to Google Trends. Just a gentle reminder. We missed you. And yes, smoke boy. Is it enough airtime and focus on timelines? Yeah, Daisy, we're going to do that sometime. Go through and break down the Google Timelines episodes and kind of consolidate. We can't do six more episodes on it. Thank you for making me stop drinking alcohol for already more than a half year. Your words did more to me than a clinic. I tried a year before. You do more than research. You inspire in faith. Dutch silver. Thank you. Very kind words. Very kind donation. And congratulations. Congratulations. If you're a half of your sober, you got to be feeling better. You have to. Diligent Brandy and Billy at all are camping at the courthouse. Y'all keep them company on X. Can't be comfortable. So proud of them. Glad to see you didn't wear your dress fans to the wedding. No, I wore my dress shoes. I wore my dress shoes. But I took two pairs of Vans. I took my dress Vans and I took some brown leather. Squared checky checker ones. I like those. Got a goat trophy. Ladies. The irony is not lost on me either. These people are clowns. We need to collectively stop talking about talking to her about smoke. Boy, they waste of time. Leave him to his reassuring bots and TPUSA won't pay him anymore. He'll just disappear into sad oblivion. That reminds me of Mike Tyson saying they said, where are you going to go next? Mike is after he lost an important fight. He said, I don't know. I'm just going to fade into Bolivia. I miss Mike. I still around. But I liked him in his prime. I was a Mike Tyson fan. My guess was wrong. I was hoping we get surprised with Tucker or Sean Ryan podcast. Crisis King. Indeed. Sean Ryan lives like five minutes from me, so I wouldn't have to take off to go to his show. I could just do it one afternoon. You wouldn't even know I was gone. Mikey McCoy's wife just had a baby. Oh, good for them. Congratulations to the new parents. That's wonderful news. One of two with Baron helps with my sadness of one year without CK. Thank you, Baron. Oh. Well, thank you. Thank you. I think I understood what you said there. Can you explain why Andrew doesn't know how defense can get back King records from a card used? My divorce lawyer knew about every card charge. Why defense can't get banking records from a card used. I don't know if they can or not. I don't know how that system works. I'm not familiar enough with the processing systems. I'm on the fence about a decoy shirt. Can it fit in a 30-ounce suit? Jesus loves you, too. Don't be doing anything illegal. We preach legal and moral here, sir. Need a new pick? Nope. I don't do. I don't do new picks. Look, that pick gets more attention being a black square than it would if I put someone new there. Dear sir, you've been away for days and I missed edge. Please toss me one and buy Research Star Daisy a thesaurus on me. Does she need a thesaurus? Edge, does she need a thesaurus? Is there a joke there? I don't know. People were saying that I used a big word on one of my tweets the other day. I would actually love a thesaurus. I got thesaurus.com right at your. You can't say thesaurus quickly. You've got it right at your fingertips. Thesaurus.com. Why would you buy a thesaurus? I'm a fan. I have a bookmark, personally. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's see here. Thesaurus.com is a. An attractive website. It's distinguished. It's exceptional. It's exemplary. It's exquisite. It's fine. It's finest. It's first rate. It's good. It's great. It's magnificent. It's outstanding. Sterling. Superb. Superlative website. All for excellent. All for excellent. Pray for me. Just got out of the hospital. I have bilateral clots in lungs and clots in entire right leg. Thank you. Wow. I wish I had advice for you, but I don't. But I will pray for you. But I will pray for you, for sure. What's your name? Rindy Kamimsy? Roger that. Daleks were the evil race with a horrible, irritating, grating, electronic voice and known for screaming, "Exterminate!" when offing their opponent. Oh. Duly noted. Forgive the earlier chat if defense was worth their weight in gold. They could get that steakhouse receipt if they wanted to, that is. Like they tried to call the owner and he didn't call him back. You were saying Andrew Calhoun still has the hat. Can it be tested for residue? I wasn't saying that. But yeah. I mean, we might want to try it. I mean, but was it on the table or was it 10 feet away? Because that's different. PBS lost 50T, 70 years of historic archive footage over cloud storage, yet Paramount not so tactical insists the prosecution has 300T footage in it. Has 300 tee footage and information. It can happen. It can happen. Mikey's baby was born a few days ago. It's on Instagram. Well, congrats to them. Congrats to them. Sunset Cove has the seals. The lady's their cleaner. so all the stinky ones have to go to La Jolla Cove and all the, like, if they use Suave or Prell, they can go down to Sunset Cove. Do they have, like, a sniffer? Do they have, like, a hall monitor seal that barks and they can come in? What if Lance was a seal? What if that was a furry getup? He was a seal. Makes more sense now with that sleek hair, you know what I'm saying? That sleek, long hair, he's becoming a seal, you see. Oh, yeah, my B, I forgot to ask you, since I missed the Q&A show last week, are you going to do another? Oh, shy. We will. Not soon, but we will. That was fun. I had a great time with that. That was a great time. We have lots of evidence, positive and negative. We seem to be lacking as proof of anything. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you're saying Smokeboy is setting up CA in order to claim that she defamed TPSA? Or set up to defame the federal government? Can anyone be accused of defaming the federal government? Sure. You can be accused of defaming the federal, like federal employees. I don't know about the government in general. I think she's being set up to have private parties go after her, not necessarily TPSA. I think she's being set up to have these businesses go after her. If, you know, it's just my take. Thanks for not selling out, your blessing. I would never, would never. Your Brit accent more like Forrest Gump. I thought it was good. I thought it was a good accent. Jenny. South Dakota native, what spots in La Jolla were your fave? I'm telling you, that sugar and spice, if I ever go back, I'll definitely eat breakfast there. It was great. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. Just kind of wander around town. I don't remember the names of places. Oh, I know you're not friends with Mikey McCoy, but you. Made an impassioned plea for him to turn himself in and poof. He's nowhere to be seen. I can't, I can't keep up with him. Half year with Baron one year without Charlie. Oh, I understand what you're saying now. Yeah, it makes sense. Uh, today's foghorn leg, horns, 80th birthday. Keep boy. I said, keep going. Max boy, crisis King and D and D boy. Uh, did you watch the Netflix doc about the pastor JD Miller and his wife? Micah Wolf in sheep's clothing. Like. Rob McCoy and Frank Turk twist scripture. I did not watch that. No, I don't watch a lot of movies. Uh, when Trump won Charlie cried, I thought it was because he worked so hard. You said it was, he was threatened. Can you tell us more? Uh, I'm only quoting Charlie. He, you can Google it. He was at a, uh, or look it up on YouTube. He was at some college event. I don't know where he was. Uh, one of the professors asked him about when he cried and that's the answer he gave that he said he was thankful because he felt like he would've gone to prison for a long time. Uh, under the Biden administration or a Harris administration, LJ is nice, but Oceanside is better. I work in Carl's bed. I believe you, but I didn't have the choice. The wedding was in La Jolla, but I heard they've got, uh, squeaky clean seals and sea lions there in Oceanside. Uh, but you know, who doesn't stink your humble host? No, I took a shower right before I got on the show. I don't want to smell bad for you guys. Uh, you know, I'm not going to pull a Gary and come in looking like I'm on a four day bender. I'm not going to do that. I'm going to do that. I'm going to always try to look my best for you. I'll try to look my best. Um, guys, I've enjoyed this. I will be back tomorrow. Um, normally we do a member show on Tuesday, but I think we'll try to do a regular show tomorrow since we were gone for four straight days. Uh, we'll do a member show towards the end of the week. I will let you know the schedule. When I know we may do a matinee tomorrow, since we do Tuesdays early. Anyway, people are kind of used to that because we usually do member shows on Tuesday. Uh, or Friday and they're usually at like two o'clock central time. So if we do one tomorrow, maybe it'll be a matinee. Maybe not. Maybe we'll do an evening show. I'll let you know as the show comes together. Um, but I hope you've had a wonderful day. I hope you've had an absolutely wonderful day and I hope you've had a wonderful few days, uh, without your humble host, but he is back in deep, uh, talking about himself and the third person for some reason, uh, Baron does that from time to time. It doesn't happen often, but when he slips into that, you'll be the first to know. Um, I do want you to remember ladies and gentlemen, I want you to remember. Jesus loves you. He just loves you. There's nothing you can do to stop it. Not a thing. Not a thing. I hope you have a wonderful night. Hope you have a wonderful morning or afternoon if you're overseas and, uh, hope you'll join me tomorrow and we'll be here. Have a good evening. Everybody. Talk to you soon.