‘Single White Female’ With Bill Simmons, Van Lathan, and Mallory Rubin

The rewatchables is brought to you by the ringer podcast network where you can find House of R. Yeah, with Mallory Rubin, my longtime friend and coworker, more than a decade together. Unbelievable. Long time. Van Lathen, you can hear him and watch him on higher learning. Yes. Midnight boys. Keep you. Thank you. I appreciate that. And the single best podcast on the ringer and ringer tailgate. It's very special or the Joel Anderson show, as we like to call it. My name is Bill Simmons and this is the most important month in rewatchables history. It's from Hell Month and it's next. It's the rewatchables presented by Fandall Predicts. You can predict the summer soccer showcase with Fandall Predicts from the opening game to the final whistle. Stay locked and sign up now for your $25 bonus on Fandall Predicts. Go to Fandall.com/Predicts to sign up, offered by Fandall Predicts and Markets L.S.C. a registered futures commission merchant, 18 plus restrictions by C terms at Fandall.com/Predicts/Bulness-Offer-Terms. All right, it is the official start of From Hell Month. We kind of test drove it last week, squeezed our guys Steven Spielberg in 2001, a space Odyssey, technically in the parameters of From Hell Month, computer from hell. Absolutely. Not really considered. Now we're in the sweet spotter from hell. Yeah. This is it. Starting with single way of female. I'm just going to read through some of the From Hells and then we can talk about it. Fantastic. All right. So what's From Hell? Mallory was on a couple of them. He affair from hell, fatal attraction. The fan from hell, misery, all of our worst nightmares for a podcasting fan, just losing their minds. Husband from hell, sleeping with the enemy, me and van did that one. Great one. Great one. Boss from hell, disclosure. Were you in that one? No. I was on. No, I'm sorry. I was on disclosure. Here's ones we haven't done. The little kid from hell, the good son, the tenant from hell, Pacific Heights, amazing movie, nanny from hell, hand that rocks the cradle, movie Craig Worldbeck has not seen. You're in for free, Craig, because it's coming this month. Second husband from hell, domestic disturbance, one of the funniest movies of the 2000s, teenager from hell, the crush, Alicia Silverstone, boyfriend from hell, fear, Mark Wahlberg, dog from hell, kujo. Cops from hell. Cop from hell is late uterus? No, that's neighbor from hell. They were from hell. Okay. Cop from hell is unlawful entry with radio, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Temp from hell, larflin boil, ex from hell, the ex, nobody's seen it. Yancy Butler, her one great moment, ex, ex husband from hell, what's that one? I just have a blank slate next to that one. What's that type of thing? I don't even know. Trucker from hell, duel and break down, and then today, the roommate from hell, yeah, single wave female, a movie that provokes visceral reactions from female watchers, including my daughter last week, who didn't know anything that was happening. And the haircut scene happens. And my daughter was like, what the fuck, it's an all-time man, she's absolutely furious. What is it about this movie, Mel? Oh, my goodness. What isn't it about the movie? It has everything, right? It has sex and intrigue and terror. It has psychosis and deep-rooted fear. It has distressingly violence against animals, which is going to be painful to talk about today. Hey, talk. I have a whole section carved out for that. You didn't tell us that you might have a golden retriever puppy here with you today. Yeah, we're just going to stroke it like, "Headie." Wow. I'm glad you don't. I think that would be true. I was just trying to stroke it. But the haircut is kind of the answer. It's that the movie is all in. Does the fullest and most obvious, but in the right and great way, version of the thing? There's nothing subtle about the movie at all, and that is kind of necessary for what it's trying to do. When you say the thing, or you say the thing, or you're saying the actual sci-fi-cut Russell movie, "1982" the thing, because you could have said either. Either, I guess. Yeah. The thing, like, the idea of, do I want to fuck you or kill you or be you? Let me give you a little bit of all of it before we make our final decision at the end. Then, this is really, I think everything you've ever looked for in a movie. Yeah, it's tough. It's tough to find a movie that was more in my willhouse now or then, right? Because I have no -- I went back and did research. I have no recollection of this movie, like, actually, in theaters. This was a home theater cable -- I saw it in the theater. There's something that you did. Yeah. But it was a big hit. Not a lot going on in August 1992. Incredible. When you watch the movie, the movie not playing with you, now, this movie takes itself seriously, which is the difference between movies like that, "Vin" and now, now they've got to kind of give you a wink and a nod, like, look how crazy this is. But this is, like, a drama with a lot of real-world stakes and actually kind of justifies itself throughout the run of the movie. And then, that's why, by the time you get to the end of it, you're like, yo, how the fuck did we get here? And that makes it even more awesome. And you also have Bridget Fonda just in various stages of dress for two hours. A lot of nudity in this movie. Jennifer Jason Lee is just like, I just hopped out of the shower, I'm completely naked. Can you hear me tell over there? Yeah. She's naked the whole movie. And there's some -- there's a weird backstory with them where Jennifer Jason -- I remember this when this happened -- Jennifer Jason Lee dated Eric Stoltz, who broke up with her and then started dating Bridget Fonda, who he dated for eight years. Oh, my. And then they made the movie together and I was like, I didn't have the premiere magazine for this one. But it was part of the research, like, yeah, it was a little awkward, but we made it work. But so there's a tension with them that you can really feel that's part of the movie, but also -- What? I don't know. Should have renamed Sam, Eric. Maybe if it hadn't been based off a book. Or if it was had Eric Stoltz play Sam. Yeah. But it could have done that as well. Yeah. Yeah. Bridget Fonda, is she Hall of Famer for your band? Yeah. Way up there. By the way. First foul at Wake Girl Hall of Famer. Yeah. At least I had to wait a year. At least in the 90s. Let me compare it to a player. It's called Way to Be. It's called Clio Drexler. Oh, yeah. I put her in a Clio Drexler territory. Dreamteamer. Dreamteamer. All the tools has every single accolade, but still not talked about as much because kind of just like, you don't see Glide around, you don't see Glide hanging out, whatever. And the same thing kind of happened to Bridget Fonda. It during that time, it was such a hotly contested race for who was going to be the base. It's like what a class of actresses with Julia, Julia Meg Ryan Sandra Bullets coming up. Reese Witherspoon's lurking in the distance, waiting for mid 90s, the back half of the 90s after clueless. And Davis is holding on. Yeah. The Davis is holding on. Liv Tyler is storming the castle. All of this happened at the same time. Bridget Fonda was as well-positioned as any of those actresses between singles, between what was the, what was the, the, what I haven't, Peter Fonda's daughter first of all. Hollywood Royals. It changed. Yeah. Grandfather. Henry Fonda. That's right. You were an on Golden Pond person. Yeah. Yes. Oh, yeah. Well, woman of taste and character. Showed up Scandal 1988 with Val Kilmer's wife. Mm-hmm. Yes. 1990 Godfather. Yeah. Apparently cut out of a lot, like film more stuff, cut out, but had a little affair with the Indie Garcia. But then, Cinqway Feeam on '92 and singles '92. Right. It's easily wearing the spoiler. That's Apex Mountain. She felt like the eighth thing. Yeah. Both of those movies, singles actually didn't do as well as this movie, but had like a distinct look too. And it just kept going. Never really happened for the way that, I think we all thought, and the big one later was Jackie Brown. Yeah. 97. Great end. Yeah. And then has this great fork in the road, Mal. Yeah. Turns down, Ali McBeal. Well, and then only acted for a few more years after Jackie Brown. Right. Stopped acting in the early 2000s. That's it. They classed 1999, simple play in '98. Her last time, D.B. is in '02 and had a serious car accident in Malbo in '03 and fractured a vertebrae. And then just stopped acting. Her IMDb just ends. That's it. Like she died, but she didn't die. She's still around. She married Danny Elfman. The Ali McBeal nugget is fascinating, because now, of course, I'm forced to think, what would that have meant for Callista Flockhart and thus, Paris, maybe you're with Harrison Ford right now? Maybe you. Maybe you're Mrs. Harrison Ford right now. You know, we met recently at a whiskey event. I heard. I saw. I studied the pictures. Magical. The parents will have the earring. They're wearing a kill. Does he have the earring men? No. I don't think he's currently wearing the earring. Okay. So the earring's gone. First of all, Ali McBeal was a phenomenon, of course. Yeah. It was legitimately like one of the most talked about shows of the late 90s. And I think it Bridget Fond is in there. It still is. There was a little bit of discovery with the Callista Flockhart because nobody knew she was. Sure. But I think Bridget Fond would have been huge. And that probably would have carried her for another six, seven years in the spotlight. I thought I had as a hot take, I'll just do now. I think Sandra Bullock might have market corrected her. Oh, interesting. It's because you look at the movies Sandra Bullock makes, and they're basically, they're born in the same year in 1964. Sandra Bullock's in the vanishing, demolition man's speed, the net while you were sleeping in a time to kill. I feel like Bridget Fonda could have been in all of this. Yeah. Bridget's like better, bigger movies than everything that happened to Bridget Fonda. This is your best taking a while and I'll tell you why. Thank you. Yeah. So, because even in '92, you see what Bridget Fonda is capable of, because in this movie, she plays the socialite about town, the completely independent, achieving beautiful lady, but a little week, a little week. But then in singles, she's actually not that. In singles, she is sort of a little bit more every girl type that's actually Sandra Bullock role. Sandra Bullock role. Yeah. And that actually became Sandra Bullock's thing, is that Sandra Bullock could play every woman. But then when Sandra Bullock, when you have to go wow, look how gorgeous, she could also do that, which was kind of Bridget Fonda's thing. But one that messed with her that I think was a good fork in the road, she's in that movie with Nick Cage. It's called, they changed the title. It's called, it could happen to you. Originally, it was called something like, a cop wins a million dollars or something. My God. A cop leaves a million dollar tip or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a real life story about a lottery ticket and the cop leaving it, part of it for the waitress and then they fall in love and it was a good idea for a movie and it just didn't make it. It's weird because Nick Cage's career takes off right after. But it was, that was another one. That was a Sandra Bullock role. So I don't know. What do you think? Nick Cage, Renaissance, Spider-Nor. Oh, huge. Right. This is interesting because I wouldn't, you're compelling me, both of you are compelling me, you with the take, you with the defense of the take. I was prepared to say, the first thing that pops into my mind with Sandra Bullock is like the sweetness. Huh. And I think that at least when we're thinking about this movie in Bridget Fonda right now, there's something, I mean, this like, you know, the kids say Bradget complimentary like alien about her, right? Completely inaccessible. That's why she's perfect for this role. It's interesting to know that she was presented with the opportunity to play either Ali or Eddie and chose Ali because that makes sense to me is the, I think the choice and feels right. It's like kind of a weird alternate history to consider her and the other role, but the idea that she would be the person someone else needed to be near, needed to be with, needed to be calm. You'd be coveted. It's completely, now I think Sandra Bullock could do that. But that feels like the Bridget Fonda kind of like essence to me because this is such an iconic role in the apex mountain. Singles, she plays more of what you're talking about. Yeah. She plays. She's just so fucking cool. I was so in love with her in single. She was. She was. And like in singles, you're watching her and you're going, Jesus, when is somebody going to see the value? Yeah. She's right here. Yeah. She's the one. Yeah. And then he sneezes at the end. He's a great, but Cameron beyond his shit, like what a great character. But I feel like if Sandra Bullock is in this movie that she's heavy. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Exactly. That Sandra Bullock role I would have wanted. That would be great. That would have been great. So if Bridget Fonda's, because it's a great whatever with this movie that I never know about, if Bridget Fonda is actually heady in this movie, what do you think about that? I don't think it works. It's difficult for me. She's a very talented performer. I think she's fantastic in this movie. And I think rightly, most of the conversation is around Jennifer Jason Lee is heady because that performance is like debauched in the best possible way. But Bridget Fonda as Ali, as the person who you look at and you're just like, I need to try to inhabit that space. You know, when Sam says to her in the early sequence in their bed, he's like, well, you know, she's like, I know Graham, I'll invite Graham to the wedding. He's like, everyone in New York is going to love you as soon as they get to meet you because everybody loves you. You know, when Ali and Heady are walking down the street, they're talking about the fashion, there's some performers, some aspects of the plot where they would have to like work harder to convince us that this person could be this effortlessly like fashionable, right? Right. She's not from New York. She moved here and she just dresses like a supermodel. She dresses like a superstar and you believe that fully. So this casting and that choice for her to be Ali feels right, I have a harder time than that. I agree with that. You're also in the Carolyn Bisset era. She's got that kind of same fashionista kind of feels very really nice to me, but more importantly, Jennifer Jason Lee's incredible. Just going crazy. She rolls apart. Unbelievable. I actually like this movie kind of ruined her for me. Oh, she's so creepy and weird and gross, but that's her, that's her thing though. I know, but this one I like couldn't come back from where I'm like, I think you're just like this. I don't think you're acting. I really talk. This is you. Very talk. You're revealing because that's how convincing she was as Eddie, I was like, this is beyond acting. Like when Eddie starts like really sizzling, I mean, when the anger gets there, it's like scary. It's terrifying. It's scary and it's focused and it's intense. And I think that's the thing that I probably would have had trouble with Bridget. With Bridget. Yeah. Yeah. I would have felt like she was acting it. Right. Like when she, when she's tied up in the end with the thing on her mouth, yeah. And Eddie's getting mad and all of a sudden you hear stuff breaking in the background and it cut and Bridget found us like looking around and then Eddie just comes back in with the knife. That's like, Jesus Christ. I love this fucking movie. By that point. Surrated knife. Holy and crazy. Oh, yeah. But we are fully there. You know, in look, we weren't fully there when she blew, blew out his boyfriend. That is the Janus thing about the movie. We really are always in crazy land in the movie. We're all, we're already there. We're in crazy land when she is erasing messages. We're in crazy land when she's hiding letters. Right. All of that. And that's right away. Deeply, deeply crazy. I said, not the puppy murder. The puppy murder. Poor buddy. Quite sure. If she actually, because I'm going to come on. I'm going to make a defensive headie later. Absolutely. Absolutely not. Yeah. She said, I'm going to make a, you're going to make a defensive headie later. But by the time we get to super crazy land is tied up knife screaming in the background and you are just laughing and having a great fucking song with the movie, man. I think there's a case that the scarier aspects of the performance are actually early, like subtle indicators that something is lurking beneath the surface. Really early. You mentioned like the letter, you know, we learn that's in like the first couple weeks of them living together that that stuff is happening. But you know, something like even just the quiet menace of like the looming harbinger of the way she says, well, this is like their first conversation. She learns about Sam, the photo, I'm not going to like get back together. I don't want to catch you on the rebound. There's a threat in the first conversation when Ali doesn't call. She spends the night out after recaling with Sam. Oh, I love it. She's lying in the bed with the puppy. How do you, like, it's, do you have things happen? Where the hell have you been? That's so hilarious to me. But he was really upset. Yeah. But he was. Poor buddy. You're going to get me started early. I just want to say something real quick. Eddie asked her. She did. She asked, she goes, Hey, this connects to one of my out of states. You're not just going to leave me right and go back to him. She asked. Yeah. And what's your name? Fucking lot. She deep down. New. It was a chance. What happened? I'm not going to get into it now. I'm going to do this later. But, Eddie, she was looking out for it. She was trying to protect herself. And Allie wouldn't let her. I'm with you. Bridget Fonda. She flips roles. What is this? Is this a different movie for you? You didn't know anything about this movie. No, other than knowing the phrase, single white female. Yeah. Not a whole lot. No, Fonda can't be. Fonda has, like, this old school Hollywood looked to her. She's like so clean and refined. Jennifer Jason Lee, the whole movie's in, like, giant t-shirts. She's like, like, adored in her body. She's always on the ground. She's like, uh, she's like a little spider. Yeah. They do the job of filming it too. Yeah. It's always looking up at Bridget Fonda. It's looking down. It's looking down. Yeah. Um, she's daughter Vic Morrow, um, fast times in '82. And then it has a religious run, Fusha Bud, Hitcher, Last Eggs at the Brooklyn. Miami Blues is a really good app on the movie. Love. She's in Backtrap. She's in Rush with, uh, Jason Patrick, um, um, back when I don't love. You don't love Rush. I've never been able to quite connect with the movie. I never loved it either. Yeah. Everybody always loved it. But she was like, very well reviewed. Yeah. She was very respected actress. Oh, yeah. And then ends up with this one. And, uh, she's had a good run. I mean, she got nominated for an Oscar for hateful age. She was incredible and Fargo just a few years ago. Yeah. Yeah. She's never bad. It's really a question of whether the role is so perfect for her that she can be iconic in it. And she's done that multiple times. And I've never recovered from her from this movie. Every time I see her in a movie, I'm always like, watch out for her. Watch out. Don't give her your keys. I'm trying to think of other roles like that where I can never quite get over the role that the person played. Usually, it's like supporting characters. It's weird when it's like a start. My mom never trusted Danny Glover again after color purple couldn't do it. I'm just saying, couldn't do it. Couldn't do it. Danny is somewhere right now. He's asked, well, psychically, by my mom, we will watch, uh, we will watch like Luther Weppin. And my mother would be like, I wonder if he beats his wife and we'd be like, come on, man. Come on. Come on, man. That's fucking my life. There's just like Michael Shannon. Every time I see Michael Shannon and something, I'm like, I'm not trusting. Well, yeah. Are we sure? Yeah. We talked about this. Was sleeping with the enemy. Oh, that was that fucking guy. That guy can never work again. Yeah. That was his song. Yeah. He tried to come out right after that and go do Robin Hood. Yeah. There's no way. No, fucking way. I'm not watching you do this to me. It's the best thing of music. Yeah. Uh, single way female taps into a few things, including, uh, real life. That work for really everybody who watches it no matter what age you are even for my daughter last week You never really know with your roommate. You never know with anyone man. We're really now. Yes, tough female friend a Kind of getting on the corner of female friend B a little bit like Yo, you she borrowed my stuff. Yeah, sure. Oh, yeah. Oh, you Wait, you wore my jacket, right? Are you wearing my perfume? Oh, yeah, did you fuck my boyfriend? Yeah Yeah, yeah, you blew my boyfriend and kill them. I don't remember seeing this in the theater, but I would imagine if it was a Credit theater a gasp. No question would have been in the audience for no questions like oh my god What are you doing? It's crazy and Bridget fondest face is great. Um, and then when you get like two something happens with the roommate and you get too close and There's kind of no way out because you have a lease right where it's like oh, this might not be working out and that's it You're stuck together. It's like a country. It's like the Lamar Jackson raven contract. Sorry, Mel brood Not in this case direction of the plot is you can't be on the lease You can't be on the lease and no one can know you live here And so there's a built-in opportunity at any point for Adley to say You freak me out. I just need you to leave. Mm-hmm. That'll be a through line of my commentary during this podcast Which I went and let she's a weak person. Yeah, as is been established. It's You're familiar with the term idiot plot. Yeah, there's a little bit of an idiot plot thing going on here with Ali and Particular where it is just the the list of things that he has done grows so long and so severe so quickly that it defies Believe it. This is a staple of the from hell For sure, you need the character. Yeah, who's just overlooking all the signs of like And since van showed up, we're shit's been happening. Yes, they can't be advance fall, right? Yeah In the book this rent control New York situation is a much much bigger deal on when looked at that that a little bit because it's actually Sam read the SWF buck or you read the book. I wouldn't like a description of the description of the book It's actually Sam who she's actually hiding who they're on the lease with which makes it Necessary that all of this stuff kind of gets kept on the hush hush Hello, they kind of halfway do that in The the the movie a little bit, but to Miles point she's actually more empowered to say get the fuck out of here Yeah, because nobody she's not supposed to be living there because it's right controlling this great building It's effective because it creates this like it enhances the idea that she's a specter Right that like the person the woman who's getting on the elevator could see her be like who are you as she's looking You know in the lobby window across to watch Sam An alley or the idea that Graham could say I like was chasing after you and I thought it was you because it was your bag and your jacket and then It wasn't you, but I've never met he and I was like well, she shy and also I'm hiding here Most of all you mean trusty gay friend Graham. Yeah. I have some notes coming for Graham as well, right? You know something else about the alley character though is that The alley character throughout the entire movie is always portrayed as a character that's not quite confident about anything Yeah, she's she's afraid and that's that's about the look with the fake the forge suicide Know it like I was never this afraid no one will believe I was this afraid. I was like I was this afraid or afraid in a different way The set up for the idea that that he can say at the end They're gonna. I'm gonna be able to pin this on you because I was never here. That's very effective and very compelling. Yeah That's good. I mean people she was there for a while at that point It's all about that. She's actually looks at it by that point Ali is convinced that Ali's girl she goes people know that you are here. You fucking nuts like the fuck is wrong with you, right? Yeah, we had ice cream cones together We were like hanging out taking pictures pictures of me you and the fucking dog what are you talking about like people are gonna know that you You threw a dog off the balcony. Yeah, everybody saw it, but but so like Ali terrible. She's she's a little bit She's the power play between her and the boss character. Which is one of my favorite characters. Oh my god I'm tired, but that's just that early 90s personified Unbelievable right over the top sexual harasser, but these all these early 90s movies are trying to tell you that that's wrong Because that's like the first time that society has continued with the fact that maybe it's for real It's this was like 92 93 ribs. We just don't do whether or not to say harassment or harassment it was say I remember so yeah, so there's a character like that that shows up in all of these movies because they're trying to make this guy The new high school jerk of the 90s because they're trying to make this a larger Conversation what about when he's in the office and there's somebody else who's on a chair and he's just like leaning over Yeah, maybe you can a scale back this guy like 10% he's going for we get it. He's a scumbag This movie was directed by Barbay Schroeder Barbay Barbay Barbay. I thought it was Barbay Barbay. Yeah, directed by Barbay Schroeder From a screenplay by Don ruse based on the 1990 novel SWF Seeks same by John Lutz. I do not have that one of my Movie crew election so he made reversal of fortune singaway female and then The movie that we've been dying to do and rewatchables forever kiss a death with crews on cage that is not streaming and basically doesn't exist 16 million dollar budget made 84 million dollars. Yeah, I'm impressive. Well, Jimmy hit Roger Ebert. Do you know the answer to this? Craig. Oh, man, I do I read the Wikipedia three stars. Mm-hmm. Pretty good. No genres beyond redemption or beneath contempt And here the slasher genre is given its due a strong performances and direction Raj loves a good story incredible stuff Like this movie was fairly well reviewed some ups and downs, but they were it's Schroeder The seriousness that he put into the direction of this movies Especially with all the the coming off reversal of fortune, which was like sort of a mini phenomenal Like the depiction of the big arms though. Yeah, this hit he wins the Oscar and then brought us to die hard three exactly So like he kind of brought a lot of credibility into the movie and it seems as if a lot of the critics that viewed it said Hey, in less capable hands this movie would have been a complete zany ride into bullshit land But he takes it so seriously and he crafts it so well that it actually turns into a somewhat serious kind of actual movie He does a really good job with the apartment. Oh, yeah, I never You have no map in your head for where the rooms are where the main room is the kitchen. It's just kind of Yeah, it's almost like they're using three different apartments But I don't think they did and you just kind of never know where you are in a good way There's something really brilliant about the kind of like apartment in the round Geography of it the way they have that foyer and all of the room so go back Kind of another version of what you were saying about a spider, right? There's like every room is a leg off of this middle hub and so this idea that everybody has their own space There's this discussion early about privacy. That's about the other neighbors But then I kind of you shrink it down to inside of their own home privacy Of course, it's not a thing that exists for any of the characters ultimately But the idea that you could always hear and see Because every room has like a point of visibility into another from across this foyer And then it makes those moments where like heady has left her door open to loudly masturbate in the middle of the night or something like that Can't wait to talk about that sense All the more notable because you know she's like You can see me you can hear me you can walk over also the apartment complex is unsafe The elevator is old and rickety. There's a balcony that your doll can fall through. Yeah, you don't have any safety from Your neighbor listening to you for your boyfriend, right? Like the place itself There's an incinerator that anyone can boil the rooms and like boil the rooms We don't have any movies we talked about that too. So the apartment building itself is a character It's kind of in a good way in a good way is as destabilizing in a way as heady is listen There's a lot to get into with this movie. We have to take a break. I cannot wait to do the rewatchable scenes. That's next The rewatchables is brought to you by fandoo predicts you can predict the summer soccer Showcase wink wink action all the way to the final match with fandoo predicts all you have to do is sign up To get your 25 dollar bonus from the opening game to the final whistle Stay locked in with every pass every goal every moment that moves us closer To crowning our first champion in four years sign up now for your 25 dollar bonus on fandoo predicts Go to fandoo dot com slash predicts to sign up. That's fandoo dot com slash predicts to get your 25 dollar bonus Offered by fandoo prediction markets LLC a registered futures commission merchant 18 plus restrictions apply c terms at fandoo dot com slash predicts slash bonus dash offer dash terms All right Most rewatchable scene we already know the answer but let's do a couple of alternate candidates At least possible roommates check the place out. This is incredible roommates montage Incredible. This is There's a way to look at the movie and just this scene and say this is a reductive like offensive string of stereotypes, but then there's the way you should watch it, which is to embrace the like very intentional comedy and parody of it. You have like the contractor, the biker who's coming in, I'm banging on the walls, I'm gonna fix it up. You've got the gorgeous stunning hot chick who's eyeing Ali and Ali's eyeing her. You have the third candidate who says, and I quote, "I'm an incest survivor, you know?" Yeah, yeah. I haven't remembered the incident yet, but I know it's there somewhere, therapy girl, right? Yeah. And then of course you have like the seemingly normal woman who also seems like she could maybe be a secret murderer or there's something very kind of like creepy about her perfection. So you're hitting all the beats and then in walks, heady. It's just a perfect set. It's not crying, holding on to our picture. And the interesting thing is, the woman that the seemingly the way to Sacker and Nicely, the movie sets her up as the roommate that she should have actually chosen. Yeah, and what's about to? And what's about to choose, and then Heady earns her way into the apartment, right? She actually earns her place in the movie, which gives the audience the opportunity to say, "Hey, Ali's not an idiot for picking her. She caught her at a low moment, then the water sprays them. She fixes the water and ice cream comes in and ice cream again." Make sure, there's like the nurturing aspect, which is a through line, and there's always something that's one of the things I actually love about the movie. When Heady is trying to be like a caregiver, it is comforting and like incredibly discomforting at the same time. Like the breakfast scene later with Sam is a good example. She's like, "I made you breakfast. Scramble to fried." She's like, "I'll just take this orange. Can you stop trying to fuck my boyfriend?" Yeah. What do you guys think about me, maybe like would you trust me to make dinner tonight? It's our anniversary! Yeah. We're good! But you do understand how Ali who like didn't want to be on her own and is mourning the loss of this relationship is like seeking that nurturing presence in her life. Even though Heady is not like that, she is able to like, provide that in bursts so that Ali leaves it. Well, this is another trope though. Yeah, absolutely. No family. Right. No friends. Her only friend is Graham, the trusting gay guy. Upstairs or downstairs. Upstairs. Available all the time for her. That lover. Just says the cat doesn't have a job. Carmen. Anytime I'm here, let's do a podcast. Also listening to her have sex. I've got some of you to take your shit up, right? Graham is a freak. Yeah. How long did Graham wait how many years to tell her that? Well. Yeah, that. By the way, I've been listening to you have sex for three years. Yeah. Well, lab one last night. You're like being on a topic, Sam. Graham is like quietly a rose from Titanic Award character who sneaky sucks candidate. Because he's supposed to be like, I'm your friend. You can come talk to me. You can tell me what's on your mind about Heddy. You can tell me what's on your mind about Sam. But not only is he listening and not telling her for months on end. Here's my big or no for Graham. I'm just gonna set up some of the pet stuff to come. You're waiting till a couple days before you're going to Boston for a wedding to set up cat care. Cat care. Stuff. What the hell? What's going on? That is just not sufficient. Hey, here's some keys. Would you swing by? Yeah. What can loyalty? Hey, is that why they have kitty litter? That he's commentary on the litter box was going. He's an asshole by the way. He said something. And the cat loves it. And the catch some next to him when he was seemingly dead. By the way, that's terrible. Listen to something. That's very upsetting. Listen to something that happens at the end of the movie when she's giving her voice over. She says, I cried all the whole week of Sam's funeral. Graham told me that's not going to bring him back the week of the funeral. Graham says that I'm not going to bring him back. Stop crying, bitch. This motherfucker's dead. Graham, are you nuts? If he was crying six years after the funeral, maybe you say that. The week of the funeral, he says that. What the fuck is up with you? Stop crying. I can't hear your conversations and your sex through the vent if you're crying. Stop crying. I cried all week after the funeral for my boyfriend who died because my roommate, Graham, to high heel in his face after blowing him. To let out of the eye. I'm stuck. Let him go. Move on. What did it go with Rubik? I have for alternate rewatchable scenes. Heady walking in on Ali, trying or earring some perfume. Great one. I mean, I know you. We probably think they'll come in later. But there's some violations on Ali's side. Oh, yeah. We'll talk about it later. Definitely. Random topless scene. I like when there's nudity early to be like, all bets are off this movie. Yes. There's no reason for this girl to make it. Get ready. Fuck off. Yes. And then he does the. Take the purler and try him on and try. And we're just like, okay. We're getting up there and we're new. And she's niffs her neck. Yeah. It's just getting weird. Heady buys a golden retriever puppy without telling her. And some of the worst puppy raising possible. No crate. Here puppy. Just go in this room. We'll close the door. What could go wrong? Yeah. Tough. Terrible. And then all of a sudden it bonds them together and they do the family portrait. Family portrait. It's really creepy. You know that that's after after they do this. Any time. Family portraits. Tough. Any time in a movie where. Three characters get together and they take a picture. Somebody's fucking data. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um. Allie disappears with Sam comes home after two days. Incredible. Heady gets super pissy about it. This seems amazing. Unbelievable. This is where it's like, all right. I got a. Maybe I'll go upstairs. See if cramps home. I got to figure out an exit plan right now. Yeah. And we see stuff that, of course, Allie doesn't including heady kicking buddy. Terrible. By the way. Horrible moment. I had that in one stage. The worst. Awful. Didn't feel like CGI or anything. Oh. That felt like a straight puppy kick. Very upsetting. People like the actual buddy took one thing. Like, where was Peter? That's why. Man, we used to raise these dogs flying five feet. Very exciting. We used to raise these dogs. These dogs are soft. And I'm just joking. We'll share. Chair sex. And I said too. So. Chess X is a great scene. Chair sex is great. Hey, can I be honest with you? Yeah. Two beautiful bodies in this fucking scene, right? There was. Yeah. I don't remember seeing as much of Sam as you end up seeing in this movie in one particular part. Oh, yeah. You see his dick. Yeah. You see his balls hanging from between like his shoes. That's the Douglas. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's right. But right around when basic instinct. Yeah. I think basic instinct came out first. Maybe he was like, keep the balls and Douglas. What did I tell you? Yeah. There was a white male butt competition that was going about. It needed to be possible. What was the thing? Um. The next thing I wrote down was. The masturbation scene right into everyone having eggs. Mm-hmm. That's right. Um, yep. What a fake out on the masturbation scene. You think she's riding some dude she met. Does the rover. I did the first time I saw it. I thought she was having sex with somebody and then she does the roller. And it's like, oh, she's by herself. I thought clearly, I think the fact that the positioning is like she. She looks like she's riding somebody. Well, she is trying to approximate the idea of being with somebody, right? Or maybe the approximate and what she saw. Well, that's the thing. The fact that she has just gone and like brought Sam a post-coitle soda and he's like make it in bed. Allie has gotten up to get a drink. The room at least has a smell of sex. I'm guessing. No question. No question. She gives Allie a kiss on the cheek. Very deliberate. She's trying to like soak up any aspect of that that she can. And then she has to go. Go to masturbate. So I think it was like very clear that she was masturbating because she wants to fuck Sam and she wants to fuck Allie. She wants to be in that relationship with them. The fact that she is in that position when Allie first sees her before turning over. Do either of you watch Shorzy. You don't, right? I've tried to get you to watch Shorzy. Incredible show. Please watch it. The most recent season of Shorzy has an iconic opening scene where one of the characters, Ted Hitchcock, who they call 10-inch cock, is masturbating in that exact position. And there's like legitimately a 15-minute conversation about how most people masturbate. I can't recommend it to you highly enough. It is so funny and so good. So that was on my mind watching this. Which of course the best part of this is the buddy Yelps. Yeah. Well, he's buddy Yelps. Well, buddy. What did I get into? I always thought that buddy was Yelping because he saw his second mom masturbating. That's not why buddy Yelps. Buddy Yelps because he was Yelping at Allie. What the fuck are you doing? Get it out of here. You don't fuck out of here. Well, he's like, give her surprise. Yeah. He's like, you don't see mom. Mom is working it right now. Get the fuck out of here. Why would you hear that? And then walk over to the goddamn door. I'm telling you. To get a question. Allie is the villain of this movie. Why would you walk towards your roommate? If they're fucking or if they're masturbating. She's having a private moment. Had he knew that she would? So why she left the door open? Listen, I can't let this mom go by without getting bands take on the top five Face Down masturbation scenes and movies. Oh, shit. She is. Face Down masturbation. I feel if anyone is prepared to go on the dome with this one. It's you. That might have been the only one. I can't think of another one. Again, I'll direct you to Shorzie. Right. I don't ever remember seeing that in a movie. But face down. Because the face down. I would say her thing. What is just like the face down her head. He's doing. Yeah, like being being. She's dominating herself. He thought. Yeah. Yeah. You like that. I'm just saying. I didn't see the movie. You know, I get invented it. Leading to the eggs. And had he just. Being. A little. Cading. Come on, buddy. Three is a crowd buddy. And Bridget. to Fonda who's a really good bitch. It's like, he's fine, honey. - It's like just like coming through. So anyway, you know it's time for Buddy to die, which leads us to a non-rewatchable scene. The murder of Buddy. - Marvel. - The second worst thing to ever happen to a dog in a movie. You know what the first one is, right? - No. - Why? - When Michael Douglas's fatal traction character fets spaghetti and meatballs to his dog that had been alone for two days, the most single-validated I've ever seen Mallory. - Terrible. - I don't know, I was thinking about the rabbit. - The rabbit. - Boy, I'm boiling the bunny. - Boiling the bunny, whatever. The bunny just died. - I understand. - Eating your dogs, spaghetti, meatballs, the diarrhea. - Terrible. - Recipe, the dog had meat and are going out in two days. This is the worst thing that's ever happened to me. - TV, not movie, but what about when Tom has to pull pantyhose out of Mondale's ass in succession? Remember that? - Oh yeah. - Well, we-- - That was very upsetting. - We talked a lot about Mondale, the most neglected dog in TV and movie history. - Powerful. - By the way, right now for pets, we in the dirt. We in the dirt right now for pets. Pets are being killed for-- - Well, I can't handle it. - And like fucking, like-- - I'm very worried about Supergirl. I'm very worried about crypto and Supergirl. - Supergirl. - Crypto has been victimized twice. It was victimized as Superman, victimized as Supergirl. - Well, the plot of Supergirl seems to be-- Oh, the Punisher thing was awful. - The Punisher thing, at the beginning of the movie, I'm watching it. - Terrible. - Tell her, Bill, you won't see it. You haven't seen it. It's a special presentation. - John Wick. - John Wick. - John Wick. - I mean, kind of-- - John Wick. - John Wick, I feel like-- - I had nightmares about that. - Ushered into this, kill the dog for the plot of the thing. - You know what, this is a new foraging. - The new foraging is the killing of the pet. - You know what? A lot of people out there care more about pets than humans. - Well, yeah, I mean, I do. - So if you kill somebody's dog in the beginning of the movie, you want revenge more than if you killed like their wife or something. - Right. - People are weird. - Especially the killer of the pet. - I also had the puppy murder as the OK Motherfucker Award for when this movie just goes up a notch. - Right. - They're coming home. - There's a fucking dead gold retriever in full of blood. - Harmful. - And it's like, oh, OK. - Harmful. - We're ratcheting up a small scene. Devastated Heide, devastated Heide hits on Sam. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Weird scene. - Gives the hug and then a little more. Sam's thinking about it about a second and a half. - Sam's a dog. - Sam's a dog. - Right, in the book, in the book, Sam and Heide, actually have sex and alley catches them. - Is that true? - That's true. - In the book. - Well, we know Sam went to visit his ex-wife and couldn't make it an hour. - Right. - Sam, by the way, I gotta say something to Sam, man. I gotta say something to say. - But he's dead, so he stopped calling him Sam. It shouldn't have happened to you. It was accident. It was accident, seriously. Sam, just his explanation for having hit, for fucking his ex-wife, Sam didn't even fucking try. - No. - Sam, no, he didn't, man. Sam was like, she calls him out. - Sam never strived for divorce, she was a Sam. - She was a Sam. - What the fuck were you doing? - What do you want me to do? I go over there, we got divorced. I feel like it was, what do you want me to do? So what, people make mistakes. - Am I supposed to? - First night. - Not fucker? - Yeah. - The craziest part about that to me is that the bulk of the attempt at reconciliation from there for Sam is, or, and honestly, Ali's reception of it too, is really oriented around the idea of like, well, it's scary to me that you, that I wouldn't have known. That you wouldn't have told me. It's much more about him not telling her than the fact that he fucks his ex-wife, the day that he's in bed with her, saying-- - And can we go pick out the engagement ring? - And by the way, Sam didn't even try that bitch line. - No. - So like, Sam didn't, hey, baby, I don't know that bitch line. I never happened, prove it. Prove it, it's my word against her. I divorced her, she crazy. Sam didn't even try it. - Why would I have done that? I'm here with you. - Exactly. - I was going to say to her. - I'm going to have sex with her, then come back and plan a life with you. - Exactly. - Fucking crazy. - You just answered the phone, she knows you're here. She's dang it on purpose. - She's trying to put this on the message. She's trying to break up. This is what they do. - Sam, very lazy. - So didn't even try. - I don't say, I liked it. He knew Ali was kind of a pushover. - Right. - And he was getting way with it. Huge power put, by the way. - He was kind of on his hands. - I can pull this off a little bit. - A little bit. - He was gonna go tell Ali, "Hey, Eddie gave me a blow job. Just letting you know." - He was. - This is so crazy. - He was gonna be on the internet. - He did. - He says, "I'm gonna tell you." - Yeah. - My dog. How can you tell her? - Right. - Like, you nut it, dog. - Like, you, like-- - 25 seconds. - It was one thing. - She comes, we can get to it. - Wait, we gotta wait on that. - Yeah. - I have to-- - That would, how would they, and they think get out of this one? Should be changed to how it's Sam get out of this one. - Right. - Hey, come on, it was our anniversary. - Right. - We're gonna do it enough of you. - Yes, incredible. - Which we talked about right into the shooting scene. - Into the shoe box, yeah. - Mm-hmm. - Help. - I just wanna say, and this is another great, this movie has 15 great movie tropes. I love when our deranged future at the end of the movie is gonna be a killer. Keeps a collection of all of their stuff from their legs. - They don't actually do this too. It's like, I'm not really crazy, but it's super easy to find a road map to how crazy I am. - All of the newspaper clipping is awesome. - All of the newspaper clipping is in one place, and it's not even locked. And I loved it on my bed, and then I threw a wet towel on it, so you know I didn't want you to see it. So you definitely go back in the-- - Not even high in the shoe box. There's no sweater over it. - Crazy. - It's like shoe box evidence, like a big name tag on it. I love it. My favorite scene that's also the most frustrating scene in the movie is The Sex Club. Which features Ali just walking 12 feet behind. Heady for locks on end, not worried that Heady's gonna turn around and see her. - It's not even just 12 feet behind. The best part of it is that then Heady goes down the stairs. - And it's looking at her. - Yeah, look at me see. - She's the worst spy ever. - But all of a sudden we're playing in Nigbo, which is a big horny music, in Nigbo and then we're the two horny music things. - And we have The Sex Club. - Yeah. - There's like, I guess a live sex show happening? - Yeah, right. - There's people on cages. - Yes. - Yeah, it's like a BDSM club. - We're there for 38 seconds. - Yeah. - And it's like, this is, what else is gonna happen in this club? Heady's having a drink, pretending she's Ali. - Right. - And then we're just gone. - We're back in the apartment. It's like, can I have a six more minutes? - Well, you get one thing that's very important is Ali gets approached. - Right. - By Ali. - That's right. - And then we're continuing the very present LGBT subtext that exists in this movie, which is the same sex attraction thing that they keep playing with. Is this obsession not sexual? Is this obsession sexual? Ali in rebuffing the lady basically reiterates to the audience that she not down for that type of shit. She's not legally split, right? - Right. - So she's, - Not like she was also kind of scary. - That lady was kind of scary. - Quite, you want to play? No, I don't have that. - She's like, - She's not with you. - By the way. - Film that a club. This will be for Mallory and I film that a club. Not, come on guys. Film that a club. - Film that a club. - Yeah. - The Hellfire Club. - That's right. - Yup. - Shout out stranger things. - That's where this was. - Dungeons and Dragons. - I was looking for them in the club. I just had more questions. I wanted to be there longer. What happens there? Is there like private rooms? - I bet. - Are there mattresses? - No questions. - What else is going on? - Right. - And then why would Heady know about Heady? - This is the one scene I don't feel like adds up with Heady. She's like this social awkward librarian who all of a sudden is at this sex club where everybody knows her. - Yeah. What's going on? - No one has ever lived a life in the day. - Right. - And then that life is in cringot with what they do when they- - I'm not saying that. - It just feels like they cut out a scene. - Yeah, maybe. - Yeah. - I just felt like the way they presented her was incongruous with her just waltzing into this club as a second person. Is she in that world? Is she participating in the BDSM stuff? Why is she there? - I think that question is kind of works actually because it's like to your point. You can believe that she's maybe always had this secret life and the like I showed up in my frock with my frizzy hair and convinced you that I was just this like bumpkin is an act or you can believe that she was that person and has been the- - The entire time and was playing a part of Heady. - That's the thing. - When she put on her scene though. - Again, it allows her to go do this thing that she has maybe wanted to do. - How would she know about that club? - Bill, when it came to her- - Like when you were- - It's like when you were in there. - It's like when you were a sex club. - Yeah. - I know, but I'm just saying, I've probably got missing a scene. - Do you think that the movie, I can see what you guys are saying with that. Do you feel like the movie though, over the course of a couple of scenes, is hinting that there's something more to her, meaning she's clearly trying to seduce Sam. She's staying there in her panties, right? - That's where I'm getting that. - I needed one more with this. - Right. And then you also see that she tries to kiss him before that there is some part of her that isn't as safe and mousy and non-sexual as what we think, that there's more to her as she's been able to hide it before. - I think Sam steps in. - I do, I don't think he's able to resist. - Oh yeah. I mean, as she says, men are dogs, right? And Sam certainly is. I think that the fact that we know definitively, there are questions about Heady. We'll get to them in some of the unanswerable questions maybe, and including the original trauma, what happened, she's Ellen, what happened to Judy, the other twin. But she has this line about, well, my parents, the girl in Tampa called them too, in the shoe box, the newspaper clippings that you mentioned, like some of it is about the twin who drowned, but there are newspaper clippings in there about automobile accidents. My read on this is that there is a long trail of dead bodies and lives. - Well, the Western union lady says that. - She's like, "Oh, you're always a different person." - You're a different person, so I think that the sexual, I'm sorry, that blowjob is delivered by a person who has given some blowjobs, for sure. Like, Eddie is a sexual person, and so part of it is like, she is mentally ill. - Face down masturbator. Face down masturbator. - She's experimenting with not only different motions, but different modes of pressure, right? Good for her, get to know your own body. But why not? Try new things, but now it works for you, you know? She is mentally ill, right? There's like a lot of, you know, actual scholarship and then like half-assed internet scholarship about what actually, like what affliction. Does she have borderline personality disorder? What is going on? What sort of sociopathic tendencies for me? - She had separation with her twin sister that she never saw trauma. - Well, let me ask you guys a kind of fundamental question. - Like, she's trying to replace her sister. That's how it's taken away from her. - And she healed her sister? - Well, that leads to that regret. - Yeah. - I think she accidentally killed her or-- - I think she killed her. - I think she killed her, she entried to. Yeah, and so back then the murder. - Although, although we know her, - Right, it's like her down this path. - At the end, they say in the voiceover. - Yeah, but although-- - Well, they say her parents tried to tell her, it wasn't her fault, but that doesn't mean it wasn't. - Right, at the same time, though, there is a part where she is talking to Ali, and she is talking about the fact that in a way she resented her sister. - Yes, for leaving her. - But she says, one twin is always sort of prettier. - Exactly, the other one does the hard work. - The other one does the hard work. So there did seem to be some animus between her and her sister that would like - Nobody. - She's a motive in it. - I think it's definitely possible that there's a really valid read that it was an accident, and then she, or something happened in that moment that then set her down the course of doing this stuff on purpose from there, which is what the ending of the movie positions is Ali to be, right? This thing happened that was not of her design, but then she's got the crockled split face photo, and she's like, maybe Ali's the sociopath moving forward now. But I think because of that line that you quoted, the idea that the one twin is always prettier, there's this covetous aspect right away. My cannon is that she killed her twin on purpose. It doesn't mean she didn't then miss her or regret her, and spend her entire life trying to fill that void. - But the jealousy and the longing are extricable for her. - It's like the JFK cessation. - An answerable question. - Our next scene. - Yeah. The blowjob. (laughing) - It's a great, like the hip is elevated to like, yeah, amazing. - So I have thoughts for you. - Yeah. - Number one, the first thing I have to say is, this leaves me to believe that Ali isn't sucking enough dick, and I'll tell you, well, because you wouldn't know, you wouldn't know as Ali just from the top of her head. - Right. - But he's doing something a little extra special. - Different technique at a minimum. - She does different technique. Whoa, whoa, you at least mentioned it. You'd be, oh, what the fuck, but babe, what's good? And then you go, you look down and go, oh shit, that's not you. - Yeah. - But he doesn't really do that. - Well, he kind of does. He's like, Ali, right? - At the same time, he, what, look? - No, it's Heddy. - It's Heddy, it's Heddy. - Heddy, and he's, what do you think they call me? - He's like, "Heddy, Sam." - He has the clear chance to opt out. - A clear chance to opt out and he goes. - Well, that's the question. - We're on that right. - There's no question. - There's no question at all. - He rides this to the end. - Yeah. - And then afterwards, you legitimately watch the scene. - He turns over and does the shameful after sex - No question. - Where you, where you, - Feetal position of change. - Feetal position, you turn over and grab it like you're ashamed. - Yes. - He does that. - This is one of the best scenes of the 90s. Craig, what was your reaction? Did you watch it with Liz? - I did. Yes. What was your reaction? - I would love to know how many relationships ended right after the movie when the guy driving home went, well, I mean, he was pretty close to finishing. Like, it's kind of hard to stop. Like, you don't know what it feels like. Like, what's it's building? What are you gonna do? - Oh my God. It's, I honestly, one of the best scenes of the 90s for me. - It's incredible. - It's iconic. It's so fucking funny to watch it with somebody who hadn't seen it. I mean, I'm watching, obviously not a, not a scene I'd want to really watch with my daughter. - Yeah. - Right? Wouldn't be in my top 10. - Yeah. - But you did. - No, I kind of went like this 'cause I didn't want to pretend I was watching. But then, as it unfolded, it was so fucking funny. My daughter, my wife, for acting. And then leading to the whole, they have a great argument. - No, it's amazing. - It starts like escalating and it just leads to all of a sudden he's getting a shoe in the ass. - Yeah, it's fucking dead. What a last 10 minutes of life. - Yeah, for him. - Yeah, I know. - The whole day, somebody you thought was your girlfriend, but wasn't, but you kind of went with it anyway. - He was still a friend though. - In the beginning, for the beginning it did. - In the beginning was she first walks in. But God, I just don't believe. - Exactly. - After a certain point that you don't know. - 100%. - Again, it is only 25 seconds, which is tough for say. - So you got my phone on time, it's 25 seconds. - But don't you think he got-- - Would nine minute van like a time in? - Scared and excited that it was heady and that kind of got it going. - 25 seconds in, no nine minute van. - Well, but not like eight minutes and 35 seconds. - But I'll tell you guys though, I'll tell you guys though. Like, he, it's just so funny that nine minutes is a herculean. - No. - You put it out. So, I'll say that in the van. That, the fact that she is so dope, we're talking about one of them ones, like a fucking lazy doval, pinkie type of situation going on. Shout out to them and everything that they've contributed. But like, the fact that she's one of them ones, like that, Tiana, I'm not gonna go on. But like it-- - But you could. - That makes sense that she was going to the sex club. - Yeah, yes, exactly. She really undercovered her-- - You see that blow job and you know that she has in how many different guises and disguises and assume personas. She sucks him dick before that is clear. - There we go, Sam, the blue light, unbelievable stuff. - Yo, by the way, I believe sincerely that Heady has an ironclad self-defense case in the killing of Sam. Sam rushed her, I mean, it's not Florida where you could like, you know, do that five or six times. - Oh, yeah, she definitely gets off. - Yeah, if Florida-- - Although the prosecutor would be like, why did you go in the Sam's room in the 345 morning dressed as your roommate? - And he's dead, he's got a stilett of the eye, so he can't say, "I was violated." - That's tough, that's tough. - Sam called, he wanted to talk to Ali. - Yes, he was asleep. - And he said, "Hashtag, why don't you come over?" No, Sam said, "Why don't you come over?" And I said, "Okay." And I came over. - Yeah, the cover story would be pretty easy to spin, for sure. Sam, the fact that he's expecting, because he said to Eddie, like, have her surprise me, that he's expecting Ali to show up. That Eddie has the haircut that she's wearing the like shiny silver trench coat. - One of the worst coats of the 90s, really awful. - Their bodies are so radically different. Like they're like half of a foot in height difference. The second she's up against him in bed, come on. You know that's not your girlfriend. The second she starts sucking your dick, you definitely know that's not your girlfriend. - You got to know. - The technique is so different. - I have a hot take, greatest orgasm of Sam's life. - Yeah. - Yeah, well, I mean, there are worst ways to go. - He's woken up the old fashioned way. - Yeah. - Real eyes. - He's so fat. - He's kinda had already been thinking about, maybe I should whip it in there one time, and here we go. - Yeah. - And just really went with it at a great time. So on the backside, that's not outrage. He's taking out his misplaced guilt on it, 100%. Because as we said many times, could it stop there? - The moment he, no, it's heady. - Yeah. - You're just rolling over like what the fuck are you doing? - Right. - Did not do that. - He's like, huh? - No, we didn't. - Great to see you. What a scene. - Incredible stuff. - Rewatchable scene of all time. - I feel like I remember over the last few years, you pantominding the scene of the guy who doesn't want to get the blowjob that he's getting. Is that from this movie or is there another movie where this happens? - Yes. - It is this. I could have remembered if it was a previous movie we had already covered or if it's single white female. - I don't know what to do with the last rewatchable scene. We've already, we already know what one, but it's, there's a couple different scenes when Heady loses her mind. - Yeah. - And I don't know. I like when she's about to kill Ali with the knife. - Do you like it? - Can we count the entire minute? It's basically a whole one long scene. - Yeah, it's like 30, 40 minutes. - Yeah. - So we all have the shoe scene as most rewatchable. - Oh, yeah. - Okay. - Has to be. - What's the most 1992 thing about this movie? - Mm-hmm. - Mm-hmm. - It has eight entries. So what was your best one? - I think, especially given the role of plays in the plot, landlines and answering machines. Like someone leaving you a message that plays a loud in your home. - This is just not a thing that happens. - And also the, you have no messages. - Yes. - It was a very. - And being able to like, someone else just goes into your house, they play the tape, they rewind the tape. You know, they don't need your phone password to like hear your messages. - Mm-hmm. Dan, what was your favorite 1992 thing? They literally explain the internet, then use it. - Yeah. - They literally go early. Like, yeah, they literally go, hey, you can book a flop. Which by the way, I did not know that you could book a flight using the internet 92. I did not know that you could do that. - A pie. If he could yeah, well, they literally explain and then they didn't they use it. Yeah, also at the end Boiler rooms in movies. Oh, yeah, this is the thing that used to exist all the times shit What happened in the boiler room it would be a bit boiler room situation I just don't see as me fucking boiler rooms in movies. I guess horror movies kind of yeah boiler room got boiler room in the movie a dial Up modem sound - on the phone. That's just that's your back. That's great This depiction of also these New York apartments like this reminds me like remember the apartment in rounders We what we rewrote rounders and we go look at that apartment. She got a great way to fuck up. I Have a nigma Finding a roommate at a newspaper. Yeah classified ads for sure. Yes, erasing an answering machine message as a plot device The early internet stuff and I just seeing old-school email like when they show the computer when she's making the Airplane trip just felt very thankful but that for me the most 1992 thing is Bridget Fonda Just like her with this and singles at the same time just feels very rooted in that year to me more so than snail mail someone mailing you keys Yeah, that's really use what Bridget Fonda made anymore the top five Gin ex darlings of the 90s you have to thousand percent who would they be It will be an owner rider it would be Bridget Fonda, but when I notice when I know that I want multiple less that's another one is the number one Gin ex darling queen without a doubt. I think Ethan Ethan are we going male female or just you don't male if you want to Uh, I think Ethan Hawkes like you think Jen ex you think Ethan Hawkes. Yeah, Ethan Hawkes there. I mean we're really just doing the cast reality bites No, I'm just saying like when you think Jen ex it's those two movies and right But Bridget Fonda will have to be in there because singles is yeah One of those films as well, but she definitely would be I would say I would have Josh Hamilton and kicking and screaming Like I that feels like distinct to me, but then all the music from back then would be the other one John Qsack Was too late. Yeah, he's more late. It is. I think he's late. It is. Oh, okay. Yeah, I would have I would have put him up there But I guess I have a 1992 thing. Yeah, taking a Polaroid of your roommate candidates. Yeah, you know what they look like Right. Yeah, it's just insane to me making them pose like right TSA. It's crazy. Yeah Oh, we're gonna take a break and then do the Floyd Gondoli award All right, the Floyd Gondoli flutter of my ass, lollipops of my mouth award for something I just enjoy it What do you have now? So we already did the do I want to fuck you kill you or be you story Which doesn't have to be two women like this like talented mr. Ripley right any movie the kind of oriented around that idea But because we already talked about that I will throw out to you guys Something that in a movie we don't enjoy would feel disqualifying, but when it's done well I just fucking love even when it is So telegraphed and absurd a check-offs TK list that is as tall as this New York apartment building the air ducts the incinerator the elevator screwdriver This still let us every single object or or aspect that is going to prove crucial in the plot Has like a blaring siren when it is presented to us. It is undeniable that it will play a role in the climax of the film And then they all do right all of them and it shouldn't work But I love it. I just enjoy it check off sex. That's mine I love crazy women in movies man Yeah, I love crazy women in movies the crazier the better Fatal attraction single-white female a thin line between loving hate. There's never been a crazy woman in the movie that I have not enjoyed and I I mean, this is the lifetime model of crazy women and crazy ex-husbands or boyfriends Ripley is Kind of in there. Yeah, he's in that because there's a saying Ripley to me where he's dressed up like him and he's always like dancing She's like what the fuck are you doing? Incredible. But I love it. And I especially love the scene where The characters no longer play like that woman isn't crazy anymore. Right. Hey Did you out of your fucking mind? I love it. So like this movie to me is the the energy is everybody finding out that she's crazy And her no longer caring about trying to hide the fact that she is deeply deeply disturbed There's been 40 years of these movies really starting with fatal attraction. Mm-hmm. And I think I've seen 99.8% of them. I would have guessed a hundred percent Even like when Hillary swank made hers What was hers? She was the one when she she was the one night affair. I don't think I've seen this It's a black couple. I can't remember who the actors. Oh, you just came out. It came out like two years ago. No, I didn't get a chance to watch it Khaliko went so I didn't see it though. Yeah, they make it every year They just put different actors in it and it works every time um my afloy gondale When a movie or TV character has an inexplicably incredible apartment that becomes a character in the thing So this apartment wins the denatives Benihana seems to look at it for sure It also means the Amanda Davids were for best piece of real estate And it's used in a great way and I was thinking like the best apartments In movies, we just did this with ghost busters. Yeah, that was a good one. Mm-hmm. Devil wears Prada. Mm-hmm. Yeah Her apartment's great in half the way is then ghost has a really good one Sure all New York City, but there there's been some good ones over the years But this is a good one because I really feel like I said before about the yes where you never know where you are in the apartment I think really helps the movie. Yes, there's never lights on No, it's like dimly lit and 50 natural light. There's another good one too that I always loved as a kid When he finally starts to get money and big. Oh, yeah, yeah That's a great finally starts to get money and then he puts all that kid like stuff in that apartment That's like a fantastic. Yeah, the bunk beds. Yeah, pop shot a lot of apartment complex. So right now You can the the cheapest apartment there is About $700,000 that go all the way up to 3.5 million dollars But if you want to rent you can actually get an apartment at the Estonia Um on the upper west side for 5,000 a month Yep Does it still have the incinerator because that would be a big thing. Yeah, it's the screwdriver still on a string in the elevator That's $5,000 a month apartment. It's gonna be a pass is 574 square feet Well, I mean, that's the thing about this set you have like the basement you have the whole apartment You have the air vents, but they're actual apartment to your point bill about like the you know, I just enjoy it She's like a struggling computer designer. It doesn't make any sense and the cover of like the rent control and The history with the former business partner and she inherited this place and their separation which makes absolutely no sense None of that that's all just lamp shading to explain how she has this place and can't let it go. Why she can't leave you Yeah, it is So how large that apartment? Well, the most famous TV example this was the friends apartment. Of course. Yeah Because you have Monica and Rachel live in there Rachel's The both of them are scraping by she's like a wannabe chef Rachel's a waitress and they have this like spectacular two bedroom tunnel eight Was there a better title for this movie is a category we never do? I just wanted to flag this one because I think this is one of the best titles of the 90s. It's great Single white female is just an incredible title. You know exactly what the movie is um, I think it got used In the years later like a single white female became like kind of a running joke. Yeah, you had a roommate that turned out to be a little It's become a little sick white female. Yeah, it's way into the vernacular. It became its actual like Psychotic yeah, being it became an actual thing like so shorthand for single white female female You know somebody's roommates nuts would say it's the best other than early and end his bridge of fond are just wearing Cute outfits and various stages of dress for two hours Uh, so I put killing putting animals in danger for the sake of story. No I mean, I that's a direct attack. Well, I have to say that it had it aged the best It didn't age well, but it aged the best because everybody is doing it now. We can I can I interrupt you in that one? Well, that was one of my would say it's the best My wife's reaction Every time there's some sort of pet murder or injury in a movie. It's horrible She's seen this movie 20 times and as soon as buddy comes in she's like, oh, no, oh I actually like it's like you already know what's gonna happen. Where are you going to upset? Anyway, go ahead crash I gotta say this Jim for Jason Lee is fine. Okay, it looks great. She's right hidey's what's great body. Yeah Has aged the best purky purky bra every time like I'm like I'm watching the movie. I'm like Fuck Agent the best is me realizing that he's kind of my type Actually kind of fuck one handy. You know what I mean? There was if like this all tracks does there need to be more black people in the movie Yes, they needed a what's not your type is a better question That's like on the on the top floor the next floor that like I don't know. He worked for UPS or something like that This movie wouldn't have even existed because he would have taken a hitty off of their hands She'd have been hanging out with fucking Darius Where's where's he had he up here he would have said it through the video here About the awesome pizza. Don't worry about where he at like I watch this. I was like, yeah, man every time she was like Taking off guard by hitty like being naked. I was like I want to be taken off guard a little bit more She was doing a thing, man. Sure was. What do you have now? - I think we pay most of them, just the roommate horror premise, kind of. paired with the erotic thriller framework, the two lead performances, the specificity of the haircut. We already talked about the haircut, but it's not just that he gets Allie's haircut and Allie has like a bob or something. This is the most specific cut and color so that there is no way to get that cut and not tell Allie and us everything we need to know about this character is just such a perfect red hair and a distinct cut. This was not like Rachel and friends, I have a review of that and it's going to be in recasting. Okay. Oh, interesting. Yeah. I think Allie's fashion has aged quite well. Oh my god. It's kind of iconic. It's just fantastic, except for that one shiny coat and yeah, not just like the apartment as a character, but this kind of vibe of New York as a setting. You have this like classic Upper West Side apartment building and this kind of like aspirational slice of life, but then you have the sex club. You have this idea of like a city where you can go to reinvent yourself. The fact that neither of them are from there is really perfect, like they've both sorted out for different reasons. It's all great. I have any scary movie within an incinerator. Careful. The moment you see that thing, you just know shit's going down. My biggest thing though, Peter Friedman is green, the cat loving gay neighbor. Frank, from succession. I shouted at my TV. Frank. I was watching him going, "Where the fuck do I know this guy?" Yeah. And I'm just staring it down. And I realized when he said, "You have my dick in your hand, Hetty, but I have yours in mine." Oh no, that's he didn't say that, but I just can't believe this is Frank. Yeah. Just picture Graham Bolt. It's Frank, there he is. France knew not to do "Bore on the Floor." Sure did. "Bore on the Floor." It's a car. You fucking do "Bore on the Floor." I'm going to be over here. It's as good as TV I ever got, man. So did you know that was Frank? No. Not at first. I looked up the character and then I saw. Yeah. Yeah. Not at first. Fucking Frank. I could have enjoyed succession completely differently if I knew he was grand. While you're not on your next sauna rewatch. That's the thing. You can pick a Graham Bolt. That's where we're coming handy. Great shot quarter award. I think is the shot of her with the tape over mouth when she's doing this as Hetty's like we can have it behind. Just the way they use. It's really legitimately scary for like five seconds. I took the little to the eye though. Pretty good. I feel like CGI would have done a better job. Yeah. There's just so many questions about this. There's a really good shot. I thought of when Allie is in the foreground and she's silhouetted and just she's all black but she's like taking off her clothes. Yeah. And then Hetty comes up behind her and you can fully see Hetty but Allie's in the front and all black and you can't see her fully silhouetted by the light. It's really good actually. Did you get the answer now? Oh shit. The great one. I like the way the credits play over the tapes together photos of half of each of their faces. That's like a kind of tantalizing image to close on in terms of thinking about Allie's future from there. Craig, I'll let you take the Chess Rockwell and Brock Landers word for best character names since you made the joke last night. Hetty? Yeah. Yeah, they know what they're doing. Great stuff. Hetty. Hetty. That that Raj review has a great quote about her name. Her name is Hedra Carlson. He didn't make a blowjob joke like Craig but you know, that's why we need all of these different creative things. That's why voice is better. She is played by Jennifer Jason Lee as a sweet face, friendly little innocent. Those are the ones you have to look out for. I cannot find Hedra in my unabridged dictionary and yet somehow the name teases me. Surely it is the name of a mythological beast. That is in the actual Roger E.B. of you, which I assume means he thought Hedra. Hedra? Oh yeah. Great stuff. Kid Cuddy pursued a happiness or a best needle drop, obviously a nighbaugh. No question. No question. There's the subtitling on that is so good. Men singing Gregorian chant with disco drum beat. Mallory of a flex. You can skip it because I think you might have already done it. I did. The rose from Titanic characters, Nikki sucks for Graham. Let's see. Um. He really did suck. He did suck. He just got some notes for. And then he was just lying in the bathtub with his cat for two days. Poor car man. What if I were talking about that last week? That's a nighbaugh. Well, I can suck conscious until then. Because we were like, would Murf lie in the bathtub with us if we were unconscious? Because crazy Heddie knocked us out with a golf club. It's like a relief that Heddie didn't kill Carmen the cat, but it's a different form of torment to like leave him there to feed off of Graham, who she thought she had killed. Very upsetting. I guess for like the, the, the, this movie needed a better sex scene. You know, we get a lot. We have Ali, Sam make up chair sex at the hotel, which we already talked about. Sam and Ali fucking at the apartment, Ali seeing Heddie masturbating, the severe vibe shift into bitch on buttoning his pants, because he thinks that he's about to get a blow job as he is trying to rape Ali, the sex club. And then of course, the blow job sequence, which we've already talked about. And then Ali kind of kissing Heddie at the end, so that her throat isn't slit. So did we need anything beyond that on the apartment front? This caught my eye on on a rewatch. You guys notice the mirror above the bathtub? Oh, I think we could have bailed ourselves of that in some way. Ali's taking a bath. Heddie comes in. It's uncomfortable. She's encroaching. She's going too far. She just wants to like offer to wash Ali's hair or something like that, but really she's looking in the mirror to try to see all the things she wants to see. Maybe she offers to just like wash her back. Where does the hand go? That scene fits perfectly in this movie. It does. And I think it sets up to your point about like single white female seeking, single white female in a different way. The subtext is there already, so to make it more active text, I think, and also I think we just kind of gotten, there's plenty of Heddie voyeurism already, but a more like clear house, the peep and Tom, Heddie is just like watching through the crack and the tummy. I have a note on the Mallory Rubin category, even though it's your category, tell me just I don't the chair sexy. I don't know. Not enough light. Well, fucking with it. It felt very like missing coordinator was staging it. I just felt like very active. That was for all that bullshit. We have that thing. I know. It's just like go for it. You know what, Fonda, she's naked a few times this movie, but not really, right? It's always like discreet or she's covered or whatever. It's like, you know what you signed up for. What's age to worse? Listening to someone in a different apartment through an air vent. Tough. Tough. Does anyone know anyone that has ever able to do this in real life? Because I don't. You know what? This just, this was just used as a technique. I thought wonderfully and sentimental value. Did you guys see this movie last year, this dog structure was the gorgeous film. So they had the like from upstairs, you could hear into the downstairs study. This comes up. This is a thing. This was a real action movie thriller device, though, for a decade. I think there's a giant nitpick here that we can hit later, but wasn't there a reality show about people in prison, where they were talked to each other through their toilets or something like that. Oh, wasn't there like love after lock up or something like that? Because the sound is like traveling where they would talk through the toilets or something or whatever. Maybe I just don't know what your cable habits are. I apologize. Don't you? Ali's crazy silver, purple, raincoat. Normal. Yes. There was no error where this coat made sense. Awful. Headed kick in the puppy. Terrible. The, we mentioned the early 90s sexual harassers and movies were just the most over the top version of them. I have a related. I don't think I for that. I don't know. They ruined Ned Ryerson from Groundhog. I know. Yeah, and the movie flirts with the fact that he might save the day. This is my one day. It's the worst. This is genuinely like you watch it now. The purple sexual harasser. Are you saying the day? I think we edit that out now. There's a note on that now. But then she's all tied up and he goes to basically untire, but gets on top of her ass. I don't think he's going to undo her and go. Yeah. Yes. What you got for me. Yeah. What do you have? Anything? Okay. Two things. Number one. This movie never happens today because you Google your new roommate. I mean, yeah. So you Google. You Google the roommate and then you see all the fucking shit. You don't do it. And then number two. This is really age the worst to me. The 80s and 90s kink shaming that used to go on. It's crazy. Think about it. Like you have to be a freak if you went to this club. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. The police academy. Remember the running Joe police academy about the blue plate lounge or whatever was going on. There was an assault on the BDSM community in the 80s and 90s. I don't appreciate. Yeah. Right. Over. I'm with you. We're over that. Billions opens with Chuck Rose getting burned with a cigarette butt and pissed on. And that's how it should be. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We're back. You know, you know what? It income all the way around. When the BDSM club was kind of the club that outed Vito's battle for in the sprawl. Because he was there. It's a fucking joke. You better not tell anyone. After that, we kind of came to it because we love Vito. Any other would say it's the worst because it's the two more. I think just like what alley colon tech genius. Oh, you don't like it. What is her business? Exactly. We've talked about this in other products, 92 to 95. You could basically do anything with the internet. Nobody knew anything about the internet so you could just pull it off. Crazy. Like, yeah, she's just, and then the account shuts down in 24 hours. Right. She's like, none of this stuff exists. of a coding genius to put in a payment bomb, but the business seems to be basically like, change from solid olive to leopard print with one click and when Mitch the rapist asked to see it, it's like, here's the invoice. - It's proprietary, yeah. - By the way, we never see her voting. - Even though I'm a coding genius. - Never see her working, coding, anything. She just seems like she goes to get ice cream and go shopping. - Great old school laptop though. - Go shopping. All right, I have a couple important, what stage is the worst? - Okay. - When Eddie dies when Ali kills her, I really think it needs a line like, you're off the lease. Like some sort of Schwarzenegger line. I think we need some sort of levity there. - You're evicted. - Yeah, yeah. - This is your eviction notice. - 'Cause the movie's so campy at that point, like just have fun with it. - Now you don't need to find another apartment, yeah. - This quote, did you know that identical twins are never really identical? There's always one who's prettier. And the one who's not does all the work. She used me and then she left me just like you. I'm giving this the earn this award for the line that should have been shown to William Goldman first. They're just important on a little too much. It's like, let's do better with our screenwriting guys. - Yeah. - And then this is just for me personally, but the gender for Jason Leigh, I have to give her the Ted Levene award for her performance so good and distinct. It may have ruined the actress career. Did not ruin her career. - No. - Rune her for me. I just see heady after every movie she made after this. I'm like, watch out for her. Hans Gruber scale villain ranking. - I'm in. - It's way up there. Well, you ever way up? I have her lower because I actually feel bad for her and kind of like there. - No. I'm sorry. She threw Buddy off the balcony. Previously had kicked Buddy. Leaves Graham's cat to feed off of his supposed corpse. She thought it was a corpse. Also, Malik murders a lot of people. - But it's the animal stuff for me that takes it up to. - She was activated, but at the same time, she's cool. - Okay. Roughly hand in ribbon at Partridge over acting where obviously Steven Toblesky. Just Steven Toblesky. - Yeah. - Just dallying it up as Mitch Myersson. - Boy, I see. - He's basically like, he had to go back the other way with Groundhog Day to just make us like him again after the Mitch Myersson thing. What do you have for your flex fan? Liz, I'll be quick. Top five, this motherfucker is crazy moments and movies. Like the moment in the movie, you realize that this character is out of their fucking mind. Number five is a tie, bishop, in juice, and old dog and man's society. - Yeah. - The killing of the convenient store people in these movies where you go, yo, why did you do that? You're crazy. Number four, Haley comes down the stairs. - Yeah, with the new haircut. - With the new haircut. - Yeah. - Just an all-time, no. She's really out of her goddamn mind moment. Number three, still seeing that creeps me out. The Annie, I hate profanity moment from misery. - Oh, yeah. - You remember this? - Yeah, sure. - It's always going crazy over where he realizes, yo, I'm in trouble. Number two, the fight club self-beatup. - Yeah, sure. - By Ed Norton. You could also go with, later on, when you realize it, it's all in his head and there's no Tyler Durden. - Spoiler. - Number one is clear, the craziest moment of anybody that's ever been crazier in the movie is Buffalo Bill. - Yeah, of course. - In the Goodbye Horses scene. - Of course. - Bill's favorite. - I was going to say. - Bill's favorite. - Bill's favorite. - Yeah, you're right. He's now got the skin on and the whole night. He's looking at this is the craziest care that we've had in the movie ever. - We've done a number of those unrewatchables. Strong list. - Anything. - She's got to get the hose again. (laughing) - I would have thrown Wengro in there. - Oh, Wengro. - Wengro just shoots the guard in the van. There's no way for us. I had to get it on. - But you could go for that. You also could go for the time at Wengro, like randomly kills a prostitute for no means. - But we already know he's crazy. - We already know he's crazy, but we know that he's got an impulse control problem. At first, the second one is this guy's actually like a homicidal maniac. - Just killing random people. - Gans afforded hours, that's a good one too. Yeah. Oh, the CR thinks Luke Wilson could have been Harrison Ford, how does take word? - Yeah. - I kind of did mine with Fonda and Sandra Bullock. I have another one, but I feel like Van's gonna do it or one of these is gonna do it. - I have two. One of them is what Van kind of already has alluded to a couple of times, which is like, "Headie, better roommate than Ali. Is this where you wanna talk about it a little more?" - Yeah, let's do it. - This is Ali's fault. - I think we all have this side of steak. A lot of this, I could make a, was Ali asking for it? - Was Ali, I could make an easy pro-Headie argument here. Easy. - Headie fixes the plumbing, makes breakfast, offers to make dinner, makes tea, dries your wet clothes and complements your fashion, encourages you to stand up for yourself at works, defends you to your shitty boss. Ali, snoops through your stuff. - Yep. - Allows, Headie, to think that she was abducted and killed in the scary city of New York. - Lies to her about the least. Yeah, my boyfriend, Ryan, come back. - Yeah. - The original sin of the movie is Headie asking her, you're not just gonna go back to him. Ali completely lies and then puts Headie in the bathroom. - Oh, so be a good roommate. She wants to hang out with you. - Wow. - Just like, have breakfast for there for 40 minutes. It's done hard. Walks into her room while she. - Watches her masturbate. - With the dumb, with the goddamn puppy. - Yeah, buddy. - Follow her to the sex club. - That's right. - She can't go to a BDSM club. - By the way, goes through her stuff. Not the second time, but the first time. - Yeah, she's like looking at her prescription pillow. - Look at her, look at her. - She's going through her shit. Walks up to Graham's house, Graham's apartment, just to shit talk her for an hour. - Yeah. - With the vents. - Yeah. - Yeah, I'm with him. - Yeah. - I do have a related sort of like the inverse of that hottest take. It's still an anti-ali take, but it kind of, is also thus an anti-Headie take. Let's get back to the idiot plot thing. Okay, Ali, to dumb to live, that's the take, is Ali, to dumb to live. I'm sorry, the list. - She does get, she does get very resourceful with about 15 minutes left to the movie. - It's way too late. - For reasons that make sense. - Turning up the volume on a TV smart. - That was smart. - Way too late. - Way too late. - Way too late. Missing mail, missing messages. The steady, the growing volume of the matching outfits, this person is stealing your wardrobe, got your exact same very distinct haircut, has a secret identity in a shoebox, waiting for you to look through, uses your name at a sex club, responds to you going out for a night with your boyfriend by screaming at you where the hell have you been, finds you and your boyfriend in bed, goes and brings you boyfriend a soda, talks to him while he's naked and then immediately masturbates with the door open. Says threes a crowd to your dog as she is feeding your boyfriend breakfast, scares Mitch appropriate, but does it by threatening his family worrying, right? Allie calls Ellen's parents and is like, "I'm sure you have the phone number." Based on what? Why do you think they have the phone number? And know where your daughter who has assumed a false identity is. Unfeased by a sink full of bloody clothes, all he has to do for 10, she got her period. And Allie's like, "Yeah, that makes sense." So there's a sink full of blood, including. It's like the fucking OG and your clothes are coated in blood. And you're like, always hits when I'm wearing something nice. Allie, do dumb to live, I'm sorry. - Wow. The only person I think dumber in all the From Hell series is the mom and hand that rocks a cradle. She's like legitimately, she likes her poorly written character. - Yeah, she's the stupidest person. And we might have to deal with her in a later episode. I have a hottest take as we're thinking about this. That I didn't know I was gonna have, but I have now because you mentioned Mr. Ripley. Is this movie a better ending if Allie just gets killed by Heady and Heady takes her life? In the last 10 minutes, she's just now Heady. I mean, now just Allie. - I kinda think so. - She has all her clothes, she has her haircut. She's not on the lease. She just starts, I didn't thought about it. - She goes to the sex club and she's like, "Hey, Allie, what's it?" And it's just like I've now taken her life. - Well, I tell you what. - Yeah. - It's a better ending than the ending we had. - If that doesn't happen, the movie is for some reason more memorable because her becoming Allie doesn't know anyone. Allie doesn't seem to have any family. You could pretty much take over Allie's life in New York. - Honestly, works Mr. Ripley really well. I really enjoy when he becomes, what's his face? What's Jude's last character? - I can't agree in this. - I can't agree in this, yeah. - I like when it becomes, they can't agree in the first half of it. - You know what's funny about the end of Mr. Ripley is with everything that Tom did, you almost still feel sad for him at the end of the movie. - Oh yeah, of course. - That the walls were closing in on him. He had it all figured out. - Great, yeah. - So Kay Flanchette shows up on the cruise. - Did you guys watch the Netflix, Andrew Scott, like a white remake of it a couple of years ago? I thought that was really good. - Yeah, I tried. - Okay. - There's a great cat in that one too. - There are no cats thing what ifs for this movie. - I don't know what we mentioned. - So there's not a, there's, oh no, we have to do recast accounts from Confucius. Best act I word is clearly Steven Tobalowski. - Any time he's in the movie. - Do you know what his name was, Craig? - No, although I'm starting to learn it, he's been in enough of these movies. I won't shut out. - I mean, he was just a that guy for basic instinct. - Brief moment in this movie is the happy Gilmore Grandma. - Yeah, Francis Bay. - Yes, right? - That's a great one. - Yeah. - I honestly, the winner might be Graham for this, 'cause it's Frank from Succession, [BLANK_AUDIO] I'm not positive I knew his name was Peter Friedman. - Did you know that was his name, fam? - Nope. - Yeah, I think that might have been the answer. - Yeah, wait, there's a word weirdly as Stephen Weber. He's only in like three scenes. - What was interesting? - I went with-- - Including-- (laughter) - You couldn't go with him. I don't know why I thought he was in the movie too much. I went with asshole boss. - Yeah, me too. - I went with him. - Okay. - Mitch, yeah. - See, support sexual harassment. - Recasting couch director or city? - There's only five characters in this movie. - I know, it's a small cast. - It's a weird one. - Like, I actually feel like there should have been another neighbor next door or something extra. I don't know. - Let's say, for recasting. - I like your idea of-- (laughter) - You guys are adopted, Eddie. - Dude, yeah. (laughter) - Hey, not, not Eddie. - Hey, man, are you kidding me? (laughter) Hey, come on, girl. Hey, come on, don't worry about them. Hey, bring it down, man. We want some of them. Come on, no. Hey. - Ready? We could have a little word about it. - It's a great movie. - We could be incredible. - Recasting couch, Halle Berry as your lead. - Oh, man. - Same haircut. - Oh, wow. - So what I thought about the iconic-- - This is the Boomerang haircut. - This is great. - The Boomerang haircut. Halle Berry as your lead. - This is why you're you? - Now, you got all kinds of fucked up shit. Now, you would probably have to make the movie in like '96, right? 'Cause, you know, we come off the rise. We don't need to incite people more. But like, it is, it's like, we don't need to, we need to get back together. We need to get back on the side. - It reincited the rise. - Like, we don't need to give it. But like, if you had Halle Berry, and now you got something really fucked up. - Great one. - That makes the same scene a little tougher. 'Cause Hattie's white, but it also makes it a little bit better. - Well, you have to recast Hattie too. - No. - You don't think so? - No, it's still single white hair. - Like his red hair. - You leave it there, you leave it the exact same. Actually, you lose the red hair, red hair thing, but you gain, you gain all of this stuff. - Extra stuff. - Yeah, you gain some really good stuff. - Is the free single white female referencing Halle or Hattie? - Well, it's in this show. - It's Halle, it's Halle. It's single white female Sikh Sam is the classified ad that she puts in to look for a roommate. - She's not looking for a single white female. She is a single white female. - But Sikh Sam, so she's looking for you. - Yes, right, exactly. - Well, ironically, I was the next category I had thrown in here. It was the Van Leith on the word, for did this movie need more black people. I think we've answered it. We needed Darius, Darius from the fourth floor. Craig, what's your flex category? - Oh God, I have kind of a lot I can throw. I don't even know what category this is. I guess it's a hot take. I just think this movie features the weirdest sleeping arrangements and preferences that I've ever seen in a movie. - Stretch me crazy when people turn around where their feet and heads are in bed. - That makes no sense. - Hate it. - Everyone is sleeping with the door open, with roommates you just met. Why is everybody sleeping in like flimsy nightgowns? I don't understand that at all. - Well, that's I think more like it's New York. - We're setting a mood. - Yeah, and it's warm. - You just met with a brand new roommate and you're just roaming around in some little gown. You're leaving your door, like they're not even locked little and closed. - This is the crazy email version of dudes whipped their dicks out next to each other at the year and all. Like if you have a roommate, you wear a nightgown without a broth, it's fine. - Like, now would you ever keep your room open when you're sleeping with roommates in your 20s? Like, were you doing that? - I don't do it in my house now. - Yeah. - I'm like, I'm a crazy man. - Oh, the doors are wide open. - Yeah, I prefer a closed door. - Yeah, a closed door, so it's so comfortable in this film. - I don't know what category that you just created, but it's definitely something. - I don't know what it is. Also go a single way female sleeping arrangements award. - Great one. - But it's awesome. - Also, I had the same thing that okay mother fucker for the exact moment when this movie goes up and I was with Buddy the dog. But I think we need to add a category for, I don't think we have this. The second you see a character you know they're gonna die. - Love it. - The second I saw Buddy, I was like, that dog's dead. - What is that? - Yeah. - You know, almost, I promise you, swear on my dad. That almost was the list. The list was almost, I couldn't think of enough characters. The list was almost, and then I misremembered the movie because Graham survives the movie. But like Graham is a character and Sam, you know they're out of here. - Yeah. - It's fucking best set. - Well, the late time movies will have like, somebody's friend who starts getting little notes here like, I don't know. - Right. - It kind of fits on the check-offs list. It's like check-offs, pet who the crazy roommate's gonna kill. And like even a subset within that is you know the moment because when she calls Buddy over and he won't come to her, you're like, well this is it, she's gonna kill Buddy now. Because he prefers that. - Buddy should have come over. - Just like everybody else. - Just like everyone's a psycho. You gotta suck up to her. - Great. - Yeah, the Buddy from Fatal Attractions like that too. - I will take one more break and then we'll rip through the rest. - All right, half ass internet research. So there's this poor test screening with the ending neck out reshot. I really, really did a lot of recon on this trying to find out why it was different. I found an article about Schroeder said, the studio said I could go ahead and reshoot. There was a technical problem. I decided with the extra money I could do better. I ended up adding another beat to the climax. Spent 60,000 a day for two days. I don't know what the reshoot is, but when you watch it, it's one of those movies that feels like it's gonna end and then it doesn't. - Yeah. - Then it ends again. And I wonder, was this a better movie if she just killed the elevator fight scene? It's just the last scene. We never go back in. We're not climbing in vents. There's not a rat. We just get rid of that and they die in the elevator. Better been the better way to do it. And the elevator was foreshadowed a little bit too. - It is. The screwdriver. Or the elevator. - Or like we do the elevator stops halfway through the floors and somebody gets dismembered or you know. - Yeah, that seems likely as well throughout the film. - It seems like something's missing. - It seems like the movie didn't really want to commit to Heddy's death. Heddy could have had a grander death. - I mean, yeah, even like there's something about the voice over at the end where you're like, that sounds like Heddy talking, you know? - I think they're trying a fight. - I think the ending's really weird in this movie. - The theorizing and the mystery and the intrigue. - What's the point of the photo with the split thing? Like who would have that? - I think to put Ali in the Heddy position, like this trauma and that goes back to the unanswerable of like, did Heddy always mean to kill her twin or was it just a terrible accident or some impulse that then let her down this path? The idea that Ali has now done this thing that will lead her down this path and that she is now in the Heddy position. She's keeping Heddy's possessions. She's talking about trying to forgive herself. The ending of the book, which like Van, I have not read, but did a little like, okay, what happens in this book is really different. So that makes it even harder to try to figure out what they changed because it's so distinct from what the actual story is. - You mentioned the Hellfire Club. They wanted it to look like a club called The Vault, which was another fetish club, which is why they had the red signature V from The Vault, which I know you know, probably not. But it was all an interior set. And then, so in the blowjob scene, Bridget Fonda is actually in there for a second because there was some Jennifer Jason Lee wasn't ready and they needed somebody for a shot. So she actually is in there at one point, which is why that's what the audience is a little bit too. - Yeah, okay. - Apex Mountain, Bridget Fonda, 100% definitely. - For sure. - 1992, was it? Jennifer Jason Lee's a tough one. I don't even-- - Well, you gotta go with the-- - Really know what it is, she had a long-- - So really storied career, the fast times, that's not it, you get here. It literally was her breakthrough role in a lot of ways. But then-- - But someone'd say rush was, so it's probably early '90s or something. - But then she gets, but then hateful ages, like an Academy Award nomination. Now she's back and more relevant than almost ever. - I mean, fast times is 82, hateful ages, 2015. That's just a long run of-- - Right, what do you have for New York City movie apartments? - Oh man. - Got a lot of good ones, including the runners one you mentioned. But it's probably ghost, right? Ghosts, that apartment was-- - Yeah, ghost is awesome. 'Cause there's also a shot in the window that is set inside of the apartment, which gives it a leg up on some of the other apartments. That was inside the apartment, right? When they were making the fucking clay. - You know ghosts, for example. Ghost tells us what happens to people when they go to hell. - Yeah, that's true. - Told you that. - You see that? - Steven Weber, who's in this and Wings at the same time, I feel like this is it for him. - It's crazy to me that he's the Wings guy. I loved Wings. - There's a whole class of Steven Weber-type guys that I thought were going to be a little bit more-- - Tony Goldbrun was like-- - Tony Goldbrun was that until Scandal comes? - Yeah, like a whole bunch of guys, and they just, they couldn't pierce past, they couldn't even get to their Kevin Bacon level at the same site. They just kinda gone. Puppy murders, Apex Mountain. - I think it's John Wick. - Yeah, it's John Wick. John Wick, is that a puppy in John Wick? I can't remember. - Yes. - Puppy. Like thousands died because that puppy died. - Yeah. - Evil movie roommates. I think this is it. - Yeah, I think so. - I think it is. - And then a negma, definitely. - Yeah. (laughing) - You do it good chance. - Good choral chance. Everyday objects as murder weapons. Is it this, the stiletto or is it the ice pick from Basic Instinct? Huff one. - Oh my God, I got ice picks. - I got ice picks, great. - 'Cause she uses it in a non-murder scene. - Yeah, but the stilettos are also used in a non-murder scene 'cause they have they both try them on and it's who's gonna buy 'em. - An obscure one from a really popular movie. - Of course. - The Joker's Pencil Trick. - Also on the John Wick front. - Right, right, right. - Gonna make this pencil disappear. - You remember that scene? - Yeah, when you go to the dark night. - From dark night. - Oh, dark night. - Like, I'm gonna make this pencil disappear. - This is here. - And then he pushes the guy's head down to the side. - He pushes the guy's head down to the side. - That is like for, if interest to heat out already, we had already seen him for his story. - It's a great one. - We were the arc light light. - Great one. - Great one. - It's. - God. (laughing) - I wrote down how Advane Layton get out of this. one with question marks, but I feel like you already actually did it unless you want to do it. Which one? You could pick the blow job scene. You could pick the ex-wife anniversary scene, but I feel like you already did it. Yeah, let's get out of here, because really the only way to get out of here. Actually, can we do this? What? Heady doesn't kill Sam. She leaves, storms out, and tells Allie what happened. I went in, Sam called me over and ran and up, I gave him a blow job. Come on, say the quote. Say the exact quote. Allie, he came in my mouth, and then he tried to beat the shit out of me because I wanted to tell you. Okay. That's a line in this video. Well, let me tell you something. First of all, honestly, incredible. Honestly, I feel, I feel attacked, haven't even had this conversation with you. That's the first thing. I won't let you know that in the first, because you see her fucking haircut. If you see the haircut, and forget about the fact that it's Kuku for Kuku, she's fucking crazy. By the way, I didn't know it was you, but you even like and dining me over this after you've seen it. Let's go to a room right now. I bet you if we go to her room right now, we're going to find some crazy shit because that motherfucker is crazy. Now, did I enjoy it? That's not a question for you to ask me. I'm a man. There's by how he said you're doing with her, then you kept going. And that's not what happened at all. First of all, like I didn't know it was her sleep. No, you can't say I didn't know it was her. What? That's the, you can't do it. That's the one thing you can't do. You say you were asleep. Yeah, it was even a week. That's such a good job. Maybe you can get out of it. You cannot say, I saw that with you. Oh, let me tell you something. That's the one. You got to go full talk secure though. No, you got to go full talk. You got to say, you know what? As a matter of fact, I only lasted about 30 seconds. That's because I'm not getting what I need from you. This is a separate conversation we got to have. Yeah, because of the Bill Clinton strategy. Exactly. Yeah, we're worth a bill. I want. We were missing something in the relationship. There wasn't the spark that was there. And now I have to say after we get rid of her, because we got to get rid of her, because I feel like she's going to go crazy. Me and you got to get away. Yeah, we have some things to work. Santorini. Yeah, beautiful there. Santorini. That's beautiful there. Cruz or Hanks. So this would be for the same role. I think it has to be Cruz. Really? Yeah. Cruz is Sam. But fighting off the blow job would be one of the great 10 seconds. Relatical sister. Oh, yeah, you're right. Hanks could be grand though. Hanks could be grand. I don't know why. I thought of like probably a step down for him. Charming in common. Error. Bulls and bloody. Error. Hanks. Oh, it's Sam. Yeah. Scorsese or Spielberg. Guess what guys? We're retiring this category. Oh, because last week we did it with Spielberg for 2001. We can't top it. Categor is done. Put a fork in it. We can't top that, Craig. No. We had Spielberg himself weighing in on Scorsese or Spielberg and seemed to be really enjoying it. Yeah, we need, we do need to get Scorsese's take. I'm going to ask you a question. We'll bring it back if Scorsese ever comes on. And I don't know if you're going to be able to answer the question because of all the people you've ever interviewed and had on it to have to notice. Have you ever interviewed anyone who is as good or as cemented at the thing that they do, which is one of the biggest things. I'm not talking about like the best cornhole player in the world. I'm talking about if you're talking about just movie making one of the five guys. Have you ever interviewed or anyone who is as good and successful at the thing that they do as Steven Spielberg? It's hard. You have to have like Muhammad Ali. You interviewed Bill Russell, right? Did you do Bill Russell? Obama? The one moment I could think of that could match Spielberg was, I interviewed Larry Bird and beating in 2012 and we were talking about modern players. And he did this whole thing about Kobe that literally changed my mind on how I felt about Kobe as a basketball player. He's like Kobe Bryant's my favorite basketball player. And here's why. And for like two minutes, I was just took Larry Bird to see it. It really did. Every time I think we're going to get there, every time I think we're going to get there, people ask me, I'm like, Bill's actually a real friend of mine. He basically, Larry says something to piss me off. Larry Bird basically revealed, I am a Kobe guy, not a LeBron guy over the course of like 90 seconds. And it was Ben Spielberg like, no, it's nuts. Like he, you can make a argument that the he's the best director ever, that he has been at the blockbuster. Like he's the reason why you go to the multiplex. Like he, he, there is the reason why this podcast maybe exists in a way. After we finished the pod, Sean did his thing that Sam does after the blow job. Went in the fetal position. Picking nets. Oh boy. All right. Go. Alley, just the most gorgeous computer coder designer ever. Yeah. He can be on smart. I'm okay. I'm just just pointing it up. The lightning partner we're never on. Yeah. Yeah. Why kill buddy? He's your only friend. Nobody likes you because she's not mentally well. Yeah, that's just the sign that she was truly crazy. Go, go. This is your guy. Take him for some walks. Have some buddy time. She wants to be chosen. And he did not choose her. Very sad. Why would Sam think Alley wanted to come over at 2 30 in the morning in New York City? Just topping a cab. It would be totally sad. Have her surprise me. Especially in the 90s in New York City. I have a couple more really good ones, but you guys got to be quick. Number one, heady is like 4 and 0 against grown-ass men. Yeah. She fucking ronda rousey. She like, she legitimately I have this one too. Like she legitimately is undefeated against grown men. Graham gone. Sam gone. Look, asshole boss gone. Yeah. She's basically overpowering grown-ass. Maybe she was doing military. Maybe she was. It specifically is the Sam one though, because she shoots Mitch in the head. But she shoots him after a stroke. She does. It has like a metal crow bar from the door to hit Graham with and he lives. The force, the torque, the velocity that you would need to bring somebody with a stiletto is like a stashing. I believe that you could puncture the eye, but we're going through into the brain so that he is in, he's not like twitching on the floor. Instant death. From long swing. It's tough. Like she really is. I know it's made a metal, but right. And then other than that, I just think, I mean, you'll check the vitals on Graham. Graham is in there. Yeah. That's sloppy. That's sloppy. Sloppy. Sloppy. Sloppy. But, but heavy is sloppy. There's some other related like on the stiletto front in the slot, but she leaves. Sloppy. Sloppy. She leaves the bloody stiletto out on the bathroom floor. That's like worse than having all of your secrets in a shoe box. Come on. I mean, we see her like do the full deep clean on the apartment. That's just that's a big picking net. I think on the air duct front and the sound traveling, there's a really big picking get here. So, heady. Obviously, we know that Sam has been listening to Ali, but in a crucial moment in the movie, heady hears because she dropped something next year. She hears the conversation between Sam and Ali, which means that there's just no believable way that at no point would Ali have heard Graham through the vent and realize that sound traveled through the vent. It just doesn't make any sense. It's just it's like borderline disqualifying, but I'm okay with it. I have a would you actually die from taking a high heel through the eye? It would have to go in your way. Or would you roll around and go? Yeah. Oh, fuck. It should be a longer and more anguish death scene. Did you die from that, Craig? Not me. Not you. No. Not you. I think it would really have to get in there. I think they just died from shame, probably. In that scene. What in heady's like fingerprints, saliva, be all over Sam. Oh, yeah. She's getting caught. Like she has no chance. No, three DNA though. We are still getting. No, we're not. We've talked about some of these other movies in this time period. Like, it's yeah, she cleans their apartment. She doesn't clean the hotel. This is another picking if for me. There is a witness who thinks it's Ali. Yes, the hotel hotel. The hotel, Atherton, Kelsey Ayers, just three third in the morning, just just hanging out. Hey, Ms. Jones. What's this guy doing? Nobody's ever been in a New York City hotel and had anyone behind the counter after like one crazy. The heady's heel still has blood on and after she leaves the hotel and walks all the way home. Yeah. It's still a blood mess. Yeah. Her leaving me heels out is crazy. It's not. And then so this was part of the reshoot thing for me. Graham's dead, but then he's alive. But then when you see Graham just kind of. He's fine. Resurfaces for the fight scene. But if you really look at it, you don't see his face. I almost feel like that was part of the reshoot, but they couldn't get Graham. Oh, interesting. And it's like, there's one moment where my wife and I are arguing about this because I had to watch again last thing. So no, no, you can see his face right now. I was like, I don't know, Kenya. It's weird. He comes in to save the day, but he's kind of like doing the thing. Yeah. It's like the cappuccino stunt man and heat man. Yeah. Remember the Asian guy, he's the cappuccino stunt man and heat. And they didn't realize we're gonna have 4K, UHD, blue race, it doesn't hold up. But the eighties would do that sometimes it was like, not even giving up. No idea. So man, another picking that is like in the end of the fight, a couple of things on the alley front here again. You're about to be burned alive and you let a rat reveal your location. You have to mission impossible Krieger that rat. You just have to. You can't, you got to squeeze the rat. You can't knock the rat on the top of head and like let the hungry. It's like there's more rats to relate it. Great character. Yes. Oh, Krieger. Just been I don't know, great character. - Oh, fantastic. Ali is a mashup of Spider-Man and Rambo at the end. - Yeah, she's like climbing up in the vents. - And hanging, swing hangs from the back of the tower. - We never say something back in words. - This is the Erica Eliniac. You like, what's the name of the movie? - Under Siege. - How did you get this good, this quick? - Crazy. - Starts off, jumping out of the cake by the end, Navy Seal, that happened in the 90s all the time. - Not a single gym scene with her in this entire movie. - Doesn't make any sense. - We've got nine knocks on the back in two hours, nothing. - Sequel, prequel, prestige, CBL, Black cast, are untouchable. I'd like to present to you, single black female. - Starring Amber Riley and K. Michelle. - Shout out to him. - And then they made a sequel, yeah. - There's the second one, yeah. - There's a whole franchise now. I've not seen these. - Yeah. - Is this movie better with Wayne Jenkins, Fergie the Flores, Cain Low, Robert Evans, Dr. Charles Nichols or someone else? - Yeah. - Wayne Jenkins fits right in, called up from Baltimore to New York, takes the Amtrak, the SLX Express. There is apparently a detective character in the book, Detective Sergeant Kennedy. - Yeah. - So there's a role. And frankly, to your point earlier about, it's a really small character set in a small cast. Kind of like need the police to be involved at some point in the movie. - Need somebody looking for a head, yeah? - Yeah, so. - So this could be a better scripted series, almost. - Oh, that would be great. Wayne Jenkins, like I didn't know we were dealing with super software engineer. - Right. - You know, get Wayne up there. - God damn, Ali. - The other pretty knit based on that. You're so right. So the second Ali puts the TV up too loud, like the whole building comes and checks on her, yet there's gunshots with Steven Tobelowski. No one's there. - Right. - True. - Fuck Shots. - Crazy. - I had for this, Mike Breene, who's down in the finals with Ali whirling around. - Hi, you, man. - Great one. - Great one. - It's just one Oscar who gets heavy easy. - Jennifer Jason Lee, no question. - Heavy easy. Jennifer Jason Lee. - Definitely. - No. - Do you think it's fun to? - Steven Weber. (both laughing) - Now, I think it's heavy. Heavy, if it could have been best supporting actor, she had a chance. Probably in Ansible's, we did a heavy killer twin sister or not. - I got another one. - Yeah. - What heavy have died of Hauntavir's anyway? (both laughing) - Oh my God. - Has she not been killed? - Did she sniff any rashes? - She got a rat thrown on her. - She did. - Did she hit him? - She had open wounds. - Yeah. - Like hot a heavy. She got a rat thrown on her. She had open wounds on her. Was she not have died of Hauntavir's anyway? - She has already had it. - Yeah, great one. - I mentioned I'm not sure Grim's in the final scene. I have one more big one. Did you have one, Matt? - We've hit a bunch. Like how many people has had he killed? Does Ali have a psychotic break like had he at the end? What is your explanation for how Ali got a rent control department in a professional dispute and settlement with a former business partner? You walked up with the hardware and a rent control department. Is that a thing that happens? - No, I wouldn't have no clue. I'm not even sure I really know all the rules around control stuff. I have no clue. I have no frame of New York reference for that type of thing. - This is our. - My big one is how did Sam's funeral go? Like let's walk through that for an hour. - Does the ex-wife Lisa give a eulogy? - Ex-wife's there. Probably hates Ali's guts. - Right. - The parents are there. They're gonna want a story for how their beloved son Sam died and the story is. - Yeah. - Oh, Sam's fiance had this crazy roommate that dressed up like Ali and went to his apartment. They had sex and then she killed them with a high heel. Ali, it's great to see you though. - Yeah, what's up? How are you doing? Like that is one of the most awkward stories. - Swing by at the holidays. - Yeah, the whole time. - Ali, if it's cool, can you not come to the lunch after the funeral? - It could be a little weird. - It could be even deeper. The family could have always liked the ex-wife in the first place. They didn't want them to get divorced. So now you young New York whippersnapper got a fun killed. And then at the same time, your friend Graham is behind you saying, "Hey, stop all that fucking crime. Don't cry no more." - Right. - It's a few, you can't bring them back. Stop fucking crying, it's weird. - The ex-wife is definitely like she did this. - Yes. - It's her. - People would have been with me. - She's the one that murdered him. - The memorabilia you'd most want from this movie is clearly the high heel. - I think it has to be as well. - I put that right behind me right now. It would be dangling over here. - Oh, you should get it. - You should. - You could probably find that props somewhere. - I would, all the props are out of control now. - Wow. - Make it happen. I think you deserve to treat yourself. - The way it goes is-- - Is it all the props out of control? - The prop market is out of control. - I am so fucked up in the head. Literally when you sit that, - Oh, you think you're going to hear it. - Yeah. - Coach Finns, Dr. Mr. Miyagi were best worse life lesson. I don't know, check your roommates more carefully. - Yeah, petproof your apartment. Also, it's okay to live alone. How about that one? It's okay to live alone. - Make Sam pay for it for a couple of months. Best double feature choice, fan. I went with the net. I don't know why. - Go internet. - Yeah, little 90s internet. - No, no. - Los Sandra Bullitt. - The female in peril. - Yeah, a whole deal. - I went with the net. - I like it. - The hand that rocks the cradle. Because it's the finals of the two dumbest characters from a 90s movie. - Just ignoring mounting evidence that something sinister is happening. - I'm fucking forgot something. I got to ask you about it right now. I know we're getting to the end. This fucking character is crazy. You could put the hand that rocks the cradle, breastfeeding situation in there as well. What is crazier coming down the stairs with the hair or the breastfeeding. - Can I twist this? - Okay, good. It's more, what gets a more visceral reaction from your girlfriend or a wife as they're watching this, the breastfeeding scene or the I'm walking down the stairs, I just took your hair, dude. - I think it's the hair. - You think it's the hair more than the titty? - Yeah. The hair is crazy. - Well, that scene is the drive of crazy. - That got an actual gas in the theater, which I remember when I saw him, the rocks the cradle. - They're both bad. - She brings the boob out and it's like, "Oh no, oh." - By the way, I submit something, both the hand that rocks the cradle, but more specifically single white female underrated date movie. - Oh, yeah. - Underrated date. - Oh yeah, that. - Underrated date moves. - Something for everybody. - All erotic thrillers are good. - What did you have for a double feature? - I was gonna go with fatal attraction because of the bunny boil and balcony buddy, which is painful, but they are of a piece, yeah. - I just, even though we've already done rematchables, just watched it two weeks ago to get ready for From Hell Month. - Always appropriate. - Extraordinary movie. - This is incredible. - Fatal attraction? - Yeah, it's great. - Extraordinary. - Great one. - The courting scene is, when they're like, "Oh, it's pouring rain, let's get a drink." - The best. - It's the voicemail, the answer machine message for me. She is, so I will not be a man. - I will not be, no, she is so fluffy. - Alex. - She's so amazing in that movie. - She's phenomenal. - Who won the movie? - Jennifer Jason Lee. - Really? - Yeah. - She's the most, like, enduring character from the movie. - I agree. - I don't know, because partner who won the movie is who won it over the next few years, right? And this combined with singles is the Bridget Fonda moment. But I think Jennifer Jason Lee's the best person in the movie. I don't know, I don't know. - They're both great. - Craig, who won the movie? - Probably Jennifer Jason Lee. - I think so. - Fonda's kind of a visionary, though. She's, I'm gonna remember her forever. (laughing) - Craig, you never saw this movie. - No. - What were your thoughts? - Watch with Liz. I found this movie to be refreshingly watchable. I thought it was gonna be, like, from a violence and horror standpoint, relatively tame. I feel like nowadays, like, the weed is just stronger now. Like, like, movies like obsession, which is like another kind of, like, sexual psycho thriller that's out right now. If that movie's super gory, it's just, you can take a date to single white female and probably not have to, like, get her consent first because this movie might be fucking terrifying. A movie like obsession, you kind of just can't go to that movie. I'm saying, like, you have to argue with somebody on, like, obsession, be like, "Oh, we're going to a date to this movie, it might be fucking terrifying." This movie is, like, kind of right in that sweet spot where it's scary and creepy and weird, but, like, it's still pulpy and it's more of just a fun conversation on the way home and you're not scared to go back to your apartment, which I like. - Yeah. - I will not be serious. - What did this session? - Scared. Liz's main takeaway was that every woman in her life has come across a heady and it's whether or not you kind of can escape it or not. - Extricate yourself from the head. - So there was a situation in a fruit one time where two guys wanted the same jacket. One of my friends had a jacket. - Yeah. - And the other one of my friends wanted that same jacket. The only problem was that this jacket that my one friend had bought was at Wilson's the leather store in the Mall Louisiana in Van Root. And the reason why he was able to afford the jacket is 'cause his girlfriend, future wife, worked at the store. So the only way my other friend could afford the jacket is that she gave him the discount. - Mm-hmm. - Well, my first homeboy who was the owner of the jacket didn't want him to have it. - Of course. - Didn't want him to have the same jacket. So he told his girl, "Don't give him the discount." He didn't went behind his back to the girl directly and asked her for the discount and then tried to play with her brain a little bit to make her give up the discount. I remember when we were having this conversation as a crew, my homeboy being like, "Yo, man, this is a single white female type shit that you're all right now." And that's the only time I could ever think of anything like that happening amongst men. Because when you talk to ladies, always, this bitch trying to dress like me. She trying to fuck my man. She trying to be me. She trying to like all of this shit. I got to get the fuck away from this bitch. I've heard that so much. Also, we did talk about the single funniest scene in the movie, which is when Henny goes down into the basement and quickly gets in the suitcase to see if a body should fit. I was like, "What is she, is she hiding in the suitcase?" More sloppy work from the person who left the bloody heels out. She's taller than you. So terrible. Also, Apex Mound for Bob's probably early 90s, right? You have Demi Moore ghost. You have this. You have Halle Berry boomerang. That was a very popular haircut. I don't know if it was. Is it a Bob? Is it a Pixie? It's a hiding and cis more Pixie. It's coming out in the 80s because we had a member who did Legend of Billie Jean. Yeah. That was a different version. It was a little longer on the bottom. This was just more like kind of boy hair. I have a great neck for that. There's just great stickiness to these early 90s movies because of the area you're in. Like, the computers, everything, the way it feels. It's so memorable and specific. It's great. You watch the movie and know exactly where you are. It's like my double feature would be disclosure for the same reason. Like, the feeling of the tech in that movie and the office. That's a Mexican pic. Yeah, it's so good. I really wish I could tell stories from the last three decades with my wife of different tiny single-way female situations that popped up. It would easily be a divorce. It would be a good part. She'd be so mad at me. That would be epic. There's been so many good ones. I have so many things to say and I'm just not going to. But to me, the thing that always gets me about it is at first, I'm almost always dismissive of these stories. For you, come up to me. Okay, somebody else is trying to be, because sometimes it's your girl telling it. Sometimes it's your girl's friend telling it. All right, she want to be like, and then you sit down and you listen to the shit and you'd be like, no, she's fucking crazy for her. I feel like times have changed. I feel like in the 90s, you gave people the benefit of the doubt. Now you don't. Didn't they basically remake this with Layton Meister, the roommate? That was what? 2011? It wasn't a basically. They remade this. It was her and Minka Kelly. And it was just a complete ripoff of it. But was missing the part where either of them were gross and became, like, they were both hot roommates that moved to the bedroom. And they're redoing it now with Jenna or Tegga, right? Well, they're actually that's an actual remake of this. Yeah, that's an interesting single female. Single female. Single female. Of course. Yep. Woke mob. Woke mob taking over. I can't believe it. Come on, man. We were past this. That's how white racism, what the hell's going on? Single white female. What an amazing movie. What's next week? Are you going to announce? I don't know what next week is, but if you go on Netflix, we got them to license a bunch of from Hell movies, including, I think, the good son is on there. Single white female. A hand that rocks the cradle. Domestic disturbance. The funniest movie of the 2000s. The unintentionally funniest. I can't wait for Craig to watch that one. It's really going to be special. I think breakdown might be on there. I don't think they get pacificites. But there's a bunch of them. So we're trying this thing. We did it with the comedies too. We're just trying to get them to license a bunch of them. Bring down the car as well. Breakdown is the most elevated one. Breakdown is good. Breakdown is a good movie. But I think all of these. I'm just so happy they're in our lives. I'm happy you guys are in my life. I'm glad you're living. Vand. Not fun. Thanks, Craig. Thanks, Kahau. We'll see you next week on From Hell Week. From Hell Month. From Hell Summer. We know what it's going to be. (upbeat music)