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239: Simply Supernatural..

This episode blends medical and paranormal content, beginning with a detailed discussion of Botox as a treatment for chronic migraine. It outlines key safety considerations, contraindications, and side effects, emphasizing the importance of medical disclosure and doctor consultation. The narrative then shifts to a collection of listener-submitted paranormal stories, ranging from a shadowy figure seen outside a home to a series of coincidences—like a song playing at a Dunkin’, a matching Jeep, and a duck lighting up—suggesting possible messages from a deceased father. Another story involves a neighbor falsely reporting a strange encounter, later interpreted as a sign of protective spiritual energy. The episode highlights themes of ancestral presence, ghostly guardianship, and the "third man factor," where individuals feel protected during crises. It concludes with a reflective note on the importance of preserving family history through journals, recordings, and shared memories, underscoring how personal stories and cultural traditions help bridge generations. The segment is framed by promotional messages from AbbVie, Revolve, Cash App, and Chrysler, but remains focused on storytelling and human experiences.

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This week's episode is brought to you by AbbVie. Chronic migraine means 15 or more headache days a month, each lasting four hours or more. Botox, onobotulinum toxin A, prevents headaches in adults with chronic migraine. It's not for those with 14 or fewer headache days a month. It prevents, on average, eight to nine headache days a month versus six to seven for placebo. Prescription Botox is injected by your doctor. Botox effects may spread hours to weeks after injection, causing serious symptoms. Alert your doctor right away as trouble swallowing, speaking, breathing, eye problems, or muscle weakness can be signs of a life-threatening condition. Those with these conditions before injection are at the highest risk. Side effects may include allergic reaction like rash, breathing problems, dizziness, neck, and injection site pain, and headache. Don't receive Botox if there's a skin infection. Tell your doctor your medical history, muscle or nerve conditions like ALS, myasthenia gravis, or Lambert-Eaton syndrome, and medications like botulinum toxins, which may increase the risk of serious side effects. Make a plan and ask your doctor about Botox. Visit BotoxChronicMigraine.com or call 1-800-44-BOTOX. This episode is brought to you by Revolve. If you're looking at your closet right now thinking, no, none of this is working, just go to Revolve. I love that they have the brands I actually want. There's always something new, and I can order a few options because the shipping is fast and the return are easy. Go to Revolve.com slash THT to shop my faves and use code THT for 15% off your first order. Offer available for a limited time, so don't miss out. Ooh, spooky season is upon us. Yes. Like real spooky. Very. Ooh, these are going to be some good stories today, my friends. All listener write-ins, all paranormal encounters from you guys out there listening. It's the year of my first encounter. It is. I think that was this year. Was it this year or last? I don't know. The way time's been flying, it's kind of scary. I know. Do you want to tell everyone what it was? I think I did on the show. It was the bed one, right? We got pulled down in bed. Or like you felt something like yank your feet. I more felt a violent swipe across the shins. That's so weird. And then, yeah, maybe the pull down a little, but no. I remember feeling the motion across, and then I kind of sat up. Whatever it was, it's the first time. Well, not the first time, because sometimes you have nightmares and you wake up and you kind of have to sit in your room and look around and make sure that's not reality. Yeah. I hate that. But this is one of those moments where you're like, oh, I don't know. This is one where it didn't feel like, oh, I just woke up from a nightmare. It was like that happened while I was sleeping or half asleep. And I sat up and I remember just sitting up in bed and just staring for a while. It's weird. Weird. It's scary. I know I was talking to Kaylin when she came on for our first spooky episode this season. And we were talking about like how our house has just kind of been acting up. And a lot of it started on the anniversary of the person who used to live there, their death. It was like the 30th anniversary. And then I started thinking about it. And our camera never acted up until I brought in the furniture from that other Hollywood actress that died. That's when our camera started really spotting someone in the kitchen. Always. Always. And now it won't stop. And it'll track it like it's following someone. Well, it doesn't feel random. It'll just be, you know, we turn on that camera, most often when we're away because it's just not on all the time. Right. So it's on while we're away. There's not a lot of action at the house. The alarms are set. The cameras are set. So basically we know the second anyone would come onto the property. Yeah. And still all of a sudden you'll get this. And at first it was kind of shocking where you'd get the notification because it comes straight to the phone. Yeah. And we're like, it's never happened before. Our camera's really accurate. So it doesn't feel like it's a false alarm. And it's not motion detected. It's some one's been detected. Someone. It's always someone. And then the camera moves like it. I know. Like it's tracking someone, which is so weird because we have this camera system. We've got Yuffie. And like a lot of times when I can't tell what something is, it'll say like motion detected. Yeah. This is literally saying someone. So it is finding a person in the frame, which is just so weird. Which I'm glad it's not totally physical here right now, person. Yeah. Because that would be equally, well, probably much more terrifying to have someone in your space. Probably. But yeah, I'm waiting for the times where it actually potentially will show an outline or something because that's what makes these stories so, so wild. Yeah. And a lot of the stories today did have some serious like physical encounters. You guys really showed up this year. I have 570. 6 submissions from you guys in just a couple of weeks. We're going to do them all. We're going to be doing this episode here. We're going to be doing an episode on Patreon. And then we're going to be doing an episode on Father Knows. Father Knows is coming back. It's just been real hard to line up a time with me, Justin, my dad. My dad's been like traveling for the past two months. So we were gone for months. Now he's gone. It's just like. Can't catch a break over there. We had to get married at some point. We had to figure that out. Yeah. Yeah. Just bad timing. Crazy timing. But without further ado, let's get into these spooky stories. Let's do it. Let's dive in. We need to introduce our friend. Oh, yeah. What are we calling him? He kind of looks like the demon dog from the Scooby-Doo movie. What's that dog's name? I don't know, but I feel like we should just call him Scooby. My little sister has a dog named Scooby. Maybe you can't steal that name. I don't know. We'll sort it. Yeah. Bones. Bones. Blinky. He blinks. Yeah. Blinky. I don't know. Guys, put in the comments. What do we name our dog? Our skeleton dog that is joining us in the studio now? He's my friend. Yeah. He is. Okay. So I am going to just. We're getting into it. Yeah. Let's go. Okay. So none of them have titles because they're coming from you guys. So every time we're just kind of getting into the story. Number one. Number one. My dad and his twin brother have always had what I can only describe as a spiritual connection. To what exactly, I'm not sure. My uncle has talked about seeing demonic faces, having prophetic dreams, and other strange, almost supernatural experiences. My dad believes in spirits too, though his encounters have always been less intense. Then, last May, something happened that really unsettled him. Now, this is not my story, this is the information and the photo my dad sent me, though I have lived in that house, and yeah, it's got a weird vibe. It was around 2 or 3 in the morning when my stepmom went outside for a smoke. She heard a rustling sound near the patio and thought it might be a bear. Bears are pretty common in our area, and she's not afraid of them either. She's actually fought one off with a raccoon. She's actually fought one off with a before. I know, I think she's crazy too. So, she took out her phone and snapped a picture just to see what it was. What showed up in that photo wasn't a bear. When it was sent to me, I was shocked. It looked like a girl hanging, a shadowy shape with what looked like a head and limp arms with an outline of a rope. She came back inside crying, visibly shaken. My dad took one look at the photo, ran outside, and yelled into the night, quote, you are not welcome here. I have enough women in my life. He wanted to make sure whatever it was knew it was not welcome and not invited into the home. Now, they haven't seen the shadowy figure since that night, but man, does that photo freak me out. Is this like probably the low light situation? Where when you use low light, your phone doesn't see things that your eyes probably can't pick up. It absolutely can. Just like when we do the pictures of the stars. I know. You know, stars. I'm going to show you the picture. Oh. I have the picture. To be honest, I'm a little scared to download it on my computer because it just feels like I'm opening some dark energy. No, no. That's why we got this guy. Our protector. Our guard dog. This is the photo. Oh, man. I guess it probably is one of those low light things. Yeah. Because like you would look over there and I'm imagining what she was seeing is just total darkness. Yeah. Oh, I see the figure. Okay, so for those listening, it is very clearly a figure and it's hovering off the ground. So you would assume it's hanging and like you can kind of see a rope and there's like a white long sleeve gown almost looks like a robe. Can we zoom? Can we zoom? It almost appears like you can see through it. So this looks like it's like there's a carport and it's like open. It's not like inside of a garage. It's like an outdoor carport. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you can almost like see through it. Like it's just. There's definitely trees. See the tall trees? Trees in the back. Yeah. Wait, so you can see through. We're not looking into a building that's out beyond. It's interesting. The structure is here. It's almost like a garage. It's like a carport. Right. You know, like a carport that you drive under or through. Kind of like we have. So the figure is outside. Yeah. Just as far back as possible. Or just like hanging from the carport. Like it looks like it's on this edge of the carport. Yeah. I also, you know, I find it kind of wild that the first reaction to rustling noises is a bear. Yeah. Like, I'm like, that's crazy. Oh, it just must be a bear. Grab the ring. Break. A bear or like a deer. Or a squirrel. You assume animal. Yeah, but think of all the rustling right now. Squirrels and raccoons around us. Oh, God, we've got raccoons and skunks galore. You got to watch out for skunks in our neighborhood. Skunks have been hiding, though. Where have they been? Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. I would freak out if I saw this. I would absolutely freak out. Because, you know, it's like you heard this noise. You heard all this rustling. You can't see. So you take a picture and your flash goes off. And then that's when you see it. And it's like, it's almost more. It's almost more scary when you know something's there, but you can't see it. Because then how do you protect yourself? So. What do you do? I have two thoughts in my mind. Okay. Well, first of all, I'm thinking, do you, does it actually work when you say you're not welcome here? I think some of them are respectful. If something wants to come in, it doesn't, is it really going to respond? Is that like forceful? Like, is that like a command that a spirit has to follow? Very curious. I think most spirits, like, I don't think they're inherently evil. Sure. I think most spirits. Spirits are just kind of lost. But you can direct them that way. Yeah. So I had two things. Either you close the door and you contemplate your existence for a moment, or you just run right back there towards it. I'm not running anywhere near that. But why not? Right? Because either you're going to go in your house and be afraid all night, or you go after it like it's a bear with the rake. Again. And how can you fight something you don't see? Well, if you run back there and there's nothing there. You need spiritual, like spiritual weapons. You need like a person to come over and cleanse your space. So, but if you ran back there and you're moving your arms and you're all over where it was and there's nothing there, then do you go back in your house and sleep fine that night or no? No, I don't think you can sleep fine after seeing something like that. So we would do a staycation. We would go, we would go find a hotel. Yeah. Oh, I don't know. That's a tough one. I, it's kind of hard because it's like, you want to like say something to make it not come at you or come in your house or whatever. So him being like, I have enough women in my life. Ha ha. Hilarious. It's like joking with the, you're already becoming friends with the spirit. I know. But what if that opens the door, like directly confronting it opens the door for it to be able to like come attach itself to you. I don't know. It's super scary. I'm excited for you guys. To see the photo and let us know what you think. The photo's wild. Yeah, the photo's crazy. The photo is crazy, but we're moving on to this next one that has a video with it. He was truly my best friend and we talked every day on the phone for our 2.30 phone call. My mother had recently moved out and those calls turned into our quick check-in calls. Again, he was truly my best friend. He didn't answer my 2.30 call one day and I immediately knew something was wrong. My best friend who lived down the road went to check on him and they found him. We don't know what happened, but assume he passed away from a brain aneurysm. We couldn't afford an $8,000 autopsy to find anything else out. Fast forward to July of 2023. I was back at work and normal day-to-day life. When I was heading into work, I stopped at Dunkin'. Very important to note that I am a Starbucks girl. I never drink Dunkin'. But for some reason, I wanted Dunkin' that day. I walk in to get my drink and a song started playing from my dad's funeral. It was not a common song at all. It was Carefree Highway by Gordon Lightfoot, a Canadian folk artist. Not something you would hear in a Dunkin', lol. That was really weird. My dad and I both drove Jeep Wranglers. It was kind of our thing. The next day, I go to meet with my boss and there, beside my normal parking spot, is a Jeep Wrangler, the exact year and color of my dad's. His Jeep is a very unique color. And I had never seen another Jeep that color. It's not common. Later that day, I was driving home from work and I was telling my best friend how all of this weird stuff was happening. And out of nowhere, this duck starts lighting up on my dash. I got me and my dad these ducks with fun hats for our Jeeps. I had never seen it light up before. The light had been broken the whole time I had it. But while I was telling my friend this story, it starts lighting up. At this point, I am so perplexed and tell my then-boyfriend that it feels like my dad is trying to tell me something. Fast forward to that Saturday, I'm with my friend, walking around downtown. She got a text message asking to pick something up from her job, so we start heading that way. I was talking to my mom on the way to my friend's work, telling my mom all of the weird stuff that happened that week. And she is also saying my dad was trying to tell me something. We get to my friend's work and she tells me she wants to show me around her work. She worked at a stunning venue overlooking the mountains. We start walking around and boom, my then-boyfriend was proposing. We had been together for eight years at that point, and he was also very close to my dad. Of course, I say yes, and we do the whole engagement thing. We get in the car to head home, and my now-husband, fiancé at the time, tells me that he showed my dad the ring two weeks before he passed. When he showed my dad the ring, he said my dad teared up. My dad was one of the only people who knew my husband was going to propose. There is not a doubt in my mind that my dad wanted me to know that he was there and celebrating with me. I've had a few dreams of my dad that feel so lifelike, where he was talking to me, but nothing that complex has happened since. My husband and I got married 9-21-24, and I know my dad was with us. Also, happy one-year anniversary. If you've lost someone close to you, I truly believe they are there with you, or at least watching over you. Thank you, THT fam. You helped me through a very difficult time in my life, and I even got to attend the live show in Charlotte. Nice. I was bawling the first time I read this story. Started crying again. It got cut. So, here's the video, though. Are you ready? Yeah, sure. I have the video. Okay. And now, and now, as I'm telling this story, recording myself, this is happening. Do you see this duck lighting up? Like, this is a duck that me and my dad had matching ones of. Like, I bought three, I bought four of us those ducks. Me and my dad have that same duck, but his has a white hat. This hat, this duck has never lit up like this before. It obviously lights up, but the whole time I've had it, it's never lit up like this. Like, I don't know what's happening right now. Oh, my God. Okay, you're so cute. I don't know what's happening right now. Well, so, as you were first, you know, reading the story, I was thinking, trying to tell you something. Like, what? What could it possibly be? Well, because in the past, it's been trying to warn you of, like, oh, my God, you would have been in that car accident, but you weren't. Or, blah, blah, blah. Like, bad things. That's what my mind goes to. What are you trying to warn me of? Generally, it's bad things. Yeah. And so, then my mind was like, well, no. Probably won't try to warn of bad things right now. It's just, I was waiting for the story to go really scary, dark, or something bad. Yeah, no, we've got some of those. I mean, it happens. But then I was like, well, maybe, you know, I would, my first gut reaction would be, they're just trying to show me that they're there, slash, that there's, something more, right? That this whole thing we debate our whole lives because no one knows for sure, yes or no, or what. Is there something after this? Nobody knows. But, like, the. One thing my dad's always told me and Jerry, you got him on board now, is if there's something after, they will find a way that's undeniable to let me know. Not just like, oh, wait, that could have been my dad. Things like this, where it's like the same car, the song. It was everything. It wasn't just one thing. It wasn't just like the song and Duncan randomly. It was everything. It was the song. It was the same Jeep in a random color. I'm envisioning like a lime green or a pumpkin orange, something that's not a common color. And then the duck that you've never seen light up, that's just on your dash. And we have the video. We watch the video. It's not like she's going down a bumpy road and it could be triggering this little duck to light up. I feel like it's been sitting there forever. It's been sitting there forever. And it's like, that's such a Jeep thing. If you're like, why are they getting ducks for their Jeep? It's such a Jeep thing to do. I keep seeing people on TikTok giving ducks to Jeep owners that don't have ducks yet. It's a Jeep thing. I don't know. That's cool. But she's clearly like, I mean, not touching it, driving. Doesn't seem like there's anyone else in the car. Like, it really does seem like this is him sending a message. Just be like, hey, I'm here. And why that object? Well, because he had the same duck. He could have picked other objects. He could have moved something here. He could have moved something there. But like. But you might not notice, right? No. And to literally, you're telling this story to your friend. And then all of a sudden, it starts happening as you talk about this story about, I've been noticing these things that like only would kind of be my dad. Yeah. And then, bam, the duck lights up. Which that to me, like, any time a spirit can like move something or create like electrical stuff when there's no battery. Or it doesn't work. That to me is like one of those like true signs. Like, I really believe in that kind of stuff. See, this is the stuff I would love to experience. I don't want the dark, scary paranormal. I want the happy, blow your mind kind of paranormal where you're like, wait. Because your mind naturally will try to explain this all every piece of this away. But when you're just hit with one after the other. Because the song, right? If it had just been the song. You'd be like, oh, crazy, crazy coincidence. But, you know, you could explain. You'd probably tell yourself, oh, it's a coincidence. But then you're knocked with one, two, three. And then to tie it all together with the proposal, which then there's a motive. There's a reason to be ever present and do all these things to make you notice. And when you first said it was a proposal, I was like. Wait, he was trying to tip her off that she was going to get engaged. Like, he wouldn't want to ruin that. But no, he just wanted her to know. I'm there. He was there to be a part of that. Because he was one of the, maybe the only person that was let in on it. Or one of the only. Yeah. So it's just such a beautiful, you know, full circle thing. But I was like, don't blow the engagement. Like, you wouldn't ruin that. No. I just, it's so beautiful. Like, such a beautiful way. To get that sign and know he was there with you. And like, have that support from him there. Because when you're so close with your parent and like, they're your best friend. And then they're gone for big moments like that in life. Like, it can feel so heavy. And like, you can almost then look at it where it's like, I'm not even excited. Because like, the person I want here to be excited with me is gone. Like, so to have that. And like, your day was so special because of all of that. It's really, really powerful. Really powerful. I like that one. I know. Let's stay on this train. This is good. Okay. Well, I have one that does talk about batteries, kind of. Electrical charges. So we'll kind of keep on this little train for a minute here. I've read through so many of these spooky stories. And there's one that I just want to like, talk about for two seconds before we get into this actual story. But it was from someone writing in. They were like, I don't know. They were like, yeah, you know, I started investigating with some friends into this haunted place. And I can't even remember where it is. Again, I've read almost 500 of your stories, you guys. But they had like a cat ball that they would bring. And if you hit the cat ball, it would light up. And so they would bring that and like, tell spirits like, hey, move the ball if you can. Because then they'd see it. It would light up. And you had to like, actually physically like, hit it to get a light up. Sure. And so she was like, I don't know. She was in a room and sure enough was like, if you're there, move the ball. And it just got batted and like, lit up. Why don't we do this? Great opportunity. I don't want to open the door, I don't think. It's not open the door. It's just playing. Hit the ball. I don't know. I don't know. Let's get into this next one and see what you think. Okay. When my parents first moved into our family home, we had an unfinished basement. My mom was slowly renovating into a play area. My older brother was around two years old at the time that this took place. So we had many toys down there. One of the toys was a small motorized toy car and a small track. To make the car go around the track, it needed to be placed at the top of it. One night, around 3 a.m., my mom woke up to the sound of the toy car whirring around the track in the basement. She listened for a moment to make sure that she wasn't hearing things. But the sound of this toy car was very distinct. Because it also played music when the car went down the track. My mom woke up my dad to go to the basement and see, but he refused. So my mom went down there and turned on the light as the car was going around the track. She quickly grabbed the toy and ran upstairs. The next morning, she realized that the toy had no batteries inside for it to even work and do that. She immediately took the toy out to the trash and never bought another one. She never bought another toy like that again. She still refuses to talk about the incident 23 years later because it scared her so much. My family and I still live in the same house where other paranormal experiences would happen every now and then. Yeah, that is kind of a freak out, especially because it's in the basement, which the basement classically is the scariest place. Always. It's always the basement. You know, the shadow figure that chases you up the stairs every time you turn the light off. Why is it the basement? Like, what is it about that? I don't know. It's just kind of a scary place. There's big, scary things down there, like big, scary furnace and dark places, a lot of places to hide. And basements don't have really an escape a lot of times. A lot of times. I don't know. I don't know why, but it's a lot of maybe it comes from movies. Because even when you're young, you remember the the toaster movie and then the furnace in the basement? Super scary. That freaked me out forever. I never. I never went in the furnace room. No chance. Uh-uh. Not as a kid. That was the worst place to go. Yeah. The farm where I grew up was really, the basement was always super creepy, too, because there's an old potato cellar in the barn. And my cat would always go and hide in there. So I'd always have to, like, go down to the basement and, like, find the cat. I'm like, sweetheart, come on out, sweetheart. And, like. Would you? No. That'd be hilarious. It was always just so creepy having to go in there. And, like, go over the potato wall and, like, scoop her out. And it's just, like, it's so dark. There was not a light in there at the time. It was scary. Someone could just. I know. Yeah. So I think if we heard that. Yeah. No. The fact that the dad didn't go down there, too. No. You go, honey. Sir. That's your job. You get down there. Well, because your mind would go, well, how could that happen? And it's either supernatural or it's someone down there. I mean, you know, just some. How creepy would that be? Someone sneaks into the house, goes downstairs and starts putting a car around a track to lure you. That's. I know. This is where we blur the lines between paranormal and true crime. But equally as terrifying. Yeah. See, my reaction would not have been to throw the toy away. I would have started filming that damn thing. And then I would have set it back up and see if it happens again. As scary as that might be. But I wouldn't want that. And by getting rid of the car, are you saying that it's whatever the whatever is making it move? Is that attached to the car? Because whatever hit the ball made the ball light up. The cat ball isn't necessarily attached to the ball. So throwing the ball away doesn't get rid of whatever it is. No. And clearly there are still more paranormal activities in the house. Like experiences happened after. So just leave it. The car was just like. The vessel. The vessel that it used to communicate. But that thing's still down there. It's still in that basement. I just feel. Not coming over to your house. Has anyone ever tried to stake out, like put cameras out there and put cameras all around that track downstairs? I don't know. Or do the spirits get shy then? Do they only get filmed when they're not expecting it? Like that photo from the first one? You know what I mean? Yeah. I feel like a lot of times, like for me, if something. - When something like this happened, my first instinct wouldn't be to take out my phone and start recording my first instinct would be oh shit get out of there run this is scary call Justin call 911 ah we'd probably be together my ghost thing didn't happen when we were together that's true that's and like I was so scared I didn't record I literally just like literally put my covers over my head and just sat there and I was like this isn't real this isn't real go to bed go to bed this isn't real it was so scary and it's like what do you do like I like could have called 911 like yeah I hear voices and people walking up and down my hallway and like they would have came but like I would have then had to get out of bed to open the door for the police and that see feet sound I could hear the pitter patter of the feet bare feet on the tile floor bare feet well because it was bare feet because you know how bare feet sound on a tile floor yeah and I could just hear him walking up and down you saw a shadow you saw a shadow in the hallway I saw the light flicker on and off from under my door and you were the only one there only one there I was the only one living there everything was locked they didn't come back to pick up something your roommate nope no one was living there all of the doors had bars it's kind of weird time that was a weird time yeah like that was just an interesting year for us not like relationship wise but just with you going to Palm Springs and for uh one of my if you don't know I was going to Palm Springs for one of my internships essentially one of my clinical rotations and it was just the weirdest experience like literally my hospital had a lockdown because there was a shooting like it was it was just chaos every day but that house was that the one there was more than just that right that made you creeped out about that place well then it was like the door was unlocked like to one of the other bedrooms so a little while later the landlord's nephew did move in it was like a month after this experience happened or weeks I don't know at this point I don't even remember but he moved in and he had his room at the far end of the hallway and my room was like at the beginning of the hallway because I had the primary bedroom I had the big one okay and so I was going down to the hallway like at the very end to do laundry and he asked me he's like did you unlock that other bedroom door and I was like no and he goes weird I got home today and it was unlocked and after that first experience I had with hearing someone yeah I always checked the door handles like every time I would walk by the doors I would like hit the handles on the way to make sure the rooms were locked because I was so creeped out I'm like I don't know I got to make sure no one else is living in here with me that I don't know about because everyone had by that point heard stories of someone living in your walls or yeah your attic and whatever so I checked I remember as I went to do the laundry I checked that handle nope it was locked so I didn't open it he didn't open it like within hours of yeah same day yeah because I'm like I put my laundry in I think I took a nap or got food did something and then like a little bit later I had to move it to the dryer and like hang some stuff I don't want any more interactions no more interactions especially what about the happy good ones we don't have any of those for a while no I'm saying like in our lives honestly I'm okay I don't I'm I'm okay I feel content having what I've had okay okay no more ghosts for me but I'll read the stories every year you're on two hot takes okay so this next one oh they even give us a title wow thank you this one is titled the in the hallway I never believed in ghosts or spirits not seriously anyways until something happened to me in my early 20s at the time I just moved back to southern California from college in Hawaii my stepdad had a spare bedroom in his condo so I moved in it was a two-story place kind of a loft style layout kitchen and living room downstairs then a staircase leading to a hallway with three bedrooms from that upstairs hallway you could look down into the living room and from the living room you could see anyone walking across the hall above that layout becomes important in a second my stepsister 28 was already living there renting one of the upstairs rooms my stepdad had the other I was 23 at the time and moved into the third room they had been living there for five years before I showed up anyways during my first week there I came home from work one day and walked into the kitchen to drop off a few groceries I turned on the downstairs lights and was about to head upstairs when I saw what I swear looked like a woman's shadow walk across the upstairs hallway it caught me off guard because the upstairs lights were off but I could still see pretty clearly from the light downstairs I assumed it was my stepsister so I called up Raylene is that you no response I went upstairs and called for her again still nothing I checked all the rooms and the bathrooms no one was home weird but I brushed it off maybe I was just seeing things it was my first week there a few nights later it was super hot and the AC vent in my room barely worked so I started sleeping with my bedroom door open to the hallway hoping some cooler air would flow in well big mistake that night I was lying in bed trying to sleep lights off when I saw her a figure the silhouette of a no details no face just a dark outline in the dim light from downstairs she wasn't rushing or doing anything scary just walking slowly past my room still I was frozen like a little kid I pulled the covers over my head and barely slept at all been there the next morning I was like nope I need to say something I brought it up to my stepdad and stepsister kind of expecting them to laugh at me or tell me I imagined it but they didn't instead they both went quote oh you finally saw her what they told me they'd both seen her multiple times according to them she's harmless never bothers anyone and over the years they just got used to her my stepdad even said that he's lost things before only to have them later show up neatly placed on the end of his bed he believed she was returning them to him I couldn't believe it like I would have assumed they were messing with me except I'd already had my own experience before I ever mentioned it and I was completely alone at the time after that I started seeing her pretty regularly never threatening just unsettling it became less scary over time but I never got comfortable with it that eerie feeling never really went away I ended up living there for about a year and a half but the constant sightings and that sense that I was never truly alone was ultimately what made me move out I didn't believe in ghosts before this now I definitely do so she's just chill so the shadow lady is just chill she's walking around doing her thing I guess she's just hanging out hanging out clearly like tied to the place for some reason like if something a spirit and energy gets tied to a place like if something gets tied to a place like if something gets tied to a place like if I always feel like something bad happened there like the trauma bound them to it yeah or like I feel mostly it's trauma I'm curious what other reasons are like if you are a spooky paranormal person and you're like oh no like my grandpa's hunting around and he's just like friendly ghost like Casper hey grandpa haha like I'd be curious if you guys like kind of have a reason why like why wouldn't grandpa go to the other side of the world like why wouldn't grandpa go to the other side was he waiting for grandma like was he keeping an eye on everyone and or can they do both yeah can oh right do you have to be on the other side and then go back and hang out which I really have a day pass I really hope that's a thing because I'm so curious I think I've said this before what happens after I'm gone not in like the you know the next year but the next ten hundred thousand ten million years I want to see what happens after I'm gone I want to see what happens even if it's not even humans related yeah I want to see the earth go into the Sun eventually when the Sun expands I want to see if we get off the planet and expand beyond that I want to see if there's any encounters with other life forms I want to see us discover other life out there even if it doesn't happen during my time I want to see us solve gravity I want to see us fine figure out the whole quantity can be solved anything can be solved how would you feel you master something you can always you can reverse it turn off gravity well you could you could use it to your advantage more just solving any of those big mysteries dark matter black holes singularities are we inside of all those big things I'm surprised we haven't sent stuff into black holes yet well you'd never you would just watch it go in that's it you'd never actually see it cross it would pause at the event horizon it would slowly fade to a deep red and then at some point it would just go away disappear but where does it go we don't know it goes right in it could be a portal somewhere well sure But it goes right in past that event horizon. Let's just start sending a bunch of stuff in there. Because the time slippage, the time warping is so strong right as you approach that event horizon. For us, it might as well freeze in place because its time is slowing down so much that ours is speeding up comparatively and we would never see it truly fully cross. We would just see it disappear. How close is the nearest black hole? Could we get there in a spaceship that we have built today? It would take, I mean, even to our nearest star neighbor, the closest star to our sun. Yeah. With our current rockets, as powerful as they are, the whole time, it would take 100,000 years to get there. Yeah, we're not sending stuff in a black hole. Damn, I was really excited. So this, that's my point though. I want, I'm hoping that there's something more so that I can pop in and out and experience that. And maybe on the other side, you can walk up and down a hallway, like time, like it's a hallway. Yeah. But yes, with this one, I don't know. I don't know if it's something bad. Do ghosts, aren't they, can't they be invisible? I think so. So does a ghost choose to have that presence that is visible and seen? Because they're clearly seeing it. It's not like she's tapping into some superhuman vision that can see ghosts. Yeah, I feel like some people are more susceptible to seeing things like kids. Kids is a great example. And dogs. Dogs. I also think spirits can present themselves. And I wonder if that's something they learn over time. Like they have to sit there and practice and like, they're like screaming into the void. Like, why can't you hear me? And then all of a sudden they can break through. Or I wonder if like they inherently already know it and can only present themselves in like, times of someone being in extreme distress. Like that, oh God, we just talked about it on the Kalen episode. But like, the person that just like comes out to save you. Where they like scream your name in your sleep as your house is burning down. You hear it a lot, like firefighters. Yeah. There's always like the firefighter that like, you get taken out of your house and it's burning. And like, you get taken out of your house by a firefighter and you come to and they're like, no one was on the scene. There's no firefighter that was there. Or like, you hear it a lot when the Coast Guard rescues people and they're like, someone was with me. Someone was floating with me. No one was there. It's just like that. But does your mind, well, see, if you're physically moved, that's one thing. But does your mind also create that in, you know, the most dire situation as a means of survival? The third man factor. When a person is saved by a perceived unseen presence, including a ghost, it is most often referred to as the third man factor or third person syndrome. Wow. Yeah, it falls under the umbrella of broader phenomenon. It is a very common thing. Explorers, climbers, shipwreck survivors. Yeah. Guardian angel, ghost spirit, provides comfort, guidance, encouragement during a life-threatening experience. Which if someone physically, the third man, carries you out of a burning house, that's one thing. Yeah. But if that, for lack of a better term, imaginary friend pops up, just alongside of a very traumatic, crazy thing, then is that some sort of response that the brain has to help aid? I don't know. But I remember the one where the person screamed, like they heard their name, literally screamed at them. And they woke up, sat up, and it saved them. It saved them from something. We had that story in the past. Yes. Yeah, we did. That was on one of our earlier spooky episodes. I'm just going through my submission form and I'm trying to see if I do have any third man write-ins. And there is one write-in that does mention that phenomenon. It's my friend's story, but more about the third man experience. Me and my friends all live on the same, one of my friends had a fun place to hang out. Think pool table, bar, card games, etc. Well, I wasn't there. I was working, but my friends were all drinking and hanging out. Two guys will call Adam and Randy and one girl, Annie. Annie wasn't feeling well and went home across the street. When Annie wants to call Randy home, they're married, she'll whistle very distinctly to get Randy's attention. Adam and Randy were still hanging out and heard the whistle. Adam goes to walk Randy home, we always walk someone home, especially at night. And when they went inside, Annie was unconscious and having a seizure on the ground. Ambulances were called, Annie's okay now. She had alcohol poisoning and had a seizure because of it. She swears up and down that she did not do the whistle to bring the boys over, but they only went home because they heard the whistle. It had to have been a guardian angel. Wow. That's wild. Very. And that's not the only guardian angel story I have. One just so off topic thing about that. So if the one guy walks the other guy home, who walks the other guy? Why was that my exact thought, exact thought? Because at least he's going home to someone. This guy's going to go home alone is what I'm perceiving. Yeah, I'm not sure. Super random thing to take from that. Maybe he had a flashlight and the other guy didn't. Oh, sure. I don't know. I do think there's moments of guardian angels and this next story kind of touches on it a little bit. It's also awesome, the whistle thing. We have a family whistle as well. But like the classic, you know, back in the day when parents would, there's a bunch of different things, right? A bell or certain shout or maybe a whistle. Your mom's would have been a whistle, 100%. Oh, yeah. She whistled. Oh, she did that with the horses when we were just home. Right next to me. Yeah. And I wasn't expecting it. I turned towards her and I must have given her the worst look. And she's like, "Oh, I'm sorry." I know. She can do the whistle where it's like. And it's like with your fingers and it just like, it's a blast of a whistle. Oh, yeah. You can't be next to it. It went straight to the eardrum and I just turned and I looked at her. Oh, I'm so mad. Oh, I can just feel it. I can feel it. This episode is brought to you by Cash App. I myself have fallen for a scam. Thought I was getting a really good deal. A deal on tickets and bam, I sent the money and I didn't get my tickets. There's so many common scams these days and finding all the red flags can be hard. That is where Cash App comes in. Keeping your money safe from fraud deserves to be a priority and Cash App treats it that way. With Security Lock, Cash App requires a successful face ID or biometric authentication to access your account. It's like your money is protected by your own personal bodyguard, even if your phone is lost or stolen. 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With thoughtful features like stow-and-go seating, hands-free sliding doors, and passenger seating up to eight, it helps keep everything moving because family life isn't about the perfect moments. It's about making the most of any moment. Visit your local dealer or chrysler.com to learn more and schedule a test drive today. Chrysler is a registered dealer. Chrysler trademark of S-C-A-U-S-L-L-C. Okay so this next one. When I was 14, I broke curfew. I was walking home alone around midnight-ish and the only person out was my neighbor. He sat on his stoop and when I said hi, he just looked at me in an odd way, almost confused and just waved. I figured that the confused look was because I was out so late. The following afternoon, I walked into the living room. And my mom started questioning me like a crazy person. Quote, "What the hell are you doing coming in so late and who was that man that walked you home?" I asked, "What man?" Surprised because I walked home alone and there was only one person outside when I was walking. "Don't play stupid." She said. Quote, "Mom, I swear, I walked home by myself. You can ask ______ childhood friend." I begged her to believe me because I was telling the truth. She questioned me further. Quote, "Well ______ neighbor that was sitting on his stoop told me you were walking down the street with a white man with a top hat and suspenders on." She continued to scold me and I was not listening because she sounded absolutely insane at that point. We lived in an almost all black neighborhood. That was not the safest to outsiders. Why the hell would I be walking down the street with a white man? dressed like he was from the 60s. I stopped her rant. Mom, do you hear yourself? You sound crazy. I promise I was not hanging out with an old white dude. We laughed at the notion and moved on with our day. Later that day, I was walking down the same street and the neighbor that was on his stoop asked me, quote, who was the white dude that walked you home last night? I answered. Why did you tell my mom that? You got me yelled at, you weirdo. I snapped at him and kept walking. He yelled after me, you the weirdo, hanging out with old white dudes and shit. I just kept walking on my way to my friend's house, not thinking anything about his nonsense anymore. I never thought of it again until years later. I was in my mid-twenties and I was telling an older lady that I worked with the bizarre story. And she said, quote, watch yourself around. I said, I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. He means to harm you. Your guardian angel seems to have revealed himself to him. I looked at her quizzically. What do you mean? I asked the older lady. She told me that your angel will reveal itself to protect you from people that want to bring you harm. If only your neighbor could see him, it was because he would have harmed you or he wanted to. I sat there frozen, scared stiff. That neighbor was always chill. She then said, a wolf in sheep's clothing. I've been terrified of that guy since that day, and I avoid him the best I can. Jumping forward a few years, I was in my early thirties and my great aunt was talking about her grandfather, who would have been my great-great-grandfather. She talked about how nice he was and showed me a picture of her very white grandfather. I was not shocked at all because our family had been together for a long time. Our family is very much a melting pot, but what did surprise me was her next memory of him. Quote, my grandfather always wore suspenders and never left the house without his top hat. I nearly shit myself. The end. I mean, all these just leave you without words. It's just so fun to hear. I mean, wow. I did not see the neighbors being the you know, the whatever the, you know, the bad guy. Yeah. The bad guy. Yeah. I was trying to think of the big term protagonist or the villain. Yeah. Yeah. That kind of thing. Yeah. I did not see that. This is where my mind goes instantly to if this were only during a time of ring doorbell cameras and these types of things, but just for them to be able to say, see, look, mom, I was by myself. I know. But then even with that, the guy, it's just so, because then the guy went and told the mom because, because she didn't see, she didn't see that, that they'd walk up with, with someone. It's all word of mouth. It's all from that one guy, which then just bleeds into that lady's story of like, yeah, your guardian angel revealed himself to the guy on the porch, because if he wouldn't have the guy on the porch might've harmed you might've scooped you up into his house that night. I mean, it just reminds me of that story. Lovely bones. Did you ever see that movie? Really dark, sad movie. But this girl is like kidnapped and murdered and her spirit tries to show her dad signs to help solve her murder essentially. Yeah. And it's just, it's kind of like that, where it's just like, she was like doing things like, like would kill a rose right in front of real time, like just kill a rose. Yeah. When the guy was talking to her dad, it was just like, it was a crazy movie, but it just reminds me of that where it's just like, spirits can like do things in order to protect others. I need to watch the lovely bones again. I could be getting this totally wrong, but it's just like, it's so crazy that like, to think about your ancestors protecting you. And I, I know in a lot of like other religions, ancestors are a lot more not worshiped, but like remembered, obviously you have day of the dead where, you know, you have your a friend and you have all of your family's pictures on it and you, you know, make all of this food and pawn and bread and all of this stuff for the a friend to remember your family. And like, there's just kind of this like culture of like really respecting the dead and like having your, your whole family watch over you. I think that's like, it's kind of like Mulan. And like, I'm not that familiar with Chinese culture and like what is practiced with that. But like all of her ancestors were like around in the temple and that could be a Mulan thing, but that also could be taken from some culture, but I'm not familiar. I'd love, love, love to hear about any cultures where like ancestors are your guardians or like, just like kind of this vibe. Yeah. Which is a cool thing because generally you, the generation below you, maybe three generations below you have the opportunity to actually know you or four, well, three below you. So four total. And then after you move past kind of that fifth, sixth generation, basically what I'm saying is once the people who knew you the best start to age out, you kind of disappear into, nothingness because there's no one that has direct memories of you unless you're some famous person or there's movies that you're in or something like that. It fades. I mean, it does. I think that's why Coco was so sad. Like when I watched Coco, I made the mistake of watching it on a plane and wow, I was crushed when he starts like flickering in and out because no one remembers him anymore. The last person that remembered him was losing her memory. Right. And then you're just forgotten. Right. Which is why I really love like the idea of an ofrenda. Right. That's what I'm, that's what I was leading to. Yeah. I think it's cool. It's so cool. Just because it's. I want to start doing it. Well, and then, you know, there's such a, a curiosity of where did I come from? You know, even with just the DNA stuff. Yeah. Where did my ancestors live? What's everyone's story? Where did they, you know, all of that. And it just, you wish you, would know more and you wish people would keep track of that better. Yeah. To know, oh, this is where, even if it's great times 10, you're great, great, great, great, all the way up. This is what your great times 10 grandfather, whatever did. Yeah. It'd be fascinating, but it's so hard to find that if someone hasn't actively kept track of it. So that's why it's so cool. You know, with that sort of remembrance and keeping track. I know I was really, really, really fortunate. I got to live with my great grandma growing up until she passed and it was just so special. So like I was super close with her and like, who gets to say that? Like they were close with their great grandma, but like even my memories, like I remember her, but I don't remember any stories of her talking about her parents or anyone. So it's like that generation has already lost to me. Well, and there wasn't ways to document that as easy as today, you know? Photos. I mean, there's some photos, but my great grandma actually kept very, very, very well kept journals. Like she would write daily and my grandma, her sister, my mom, my aunt, like a lot of people have read these journals. Yeah. I guess they're like really, they just show like how tough she was and like everything she put up with, with like her husband who wasn't necessarily the best and just like kept the family together and like worked so hard on the phone. Yeah. And so I'm like, well, I don't want to read them, but I'm like, what if I discover a secret I don't want to know? No, but what's so cool about that is like the farm is such a special place, right? Imagine her writing in something. Well, we had the barn, the barn was rebuilt last week and it's going up. Imagine seeing that. I know. It's like locked in time. It's time traveling. I know. To go back and read something that's specific to something that still exists and a place that still exists and is special to you. That would be incredible. Incredible. Went up in Boba on the field today, planted this tree and you got, and sure enough, there's the hundred some year old tree. Can you imagine that? Crazy. It's wild. Well, there's such a wealth of information and experience that's lost with that too. I know. Like when you get to an age, I don't know whether it starts in your twenties, once you get thirties, when you start getting curious about your parents' lives, when you start getting curious about your grandparents' lives, when they tell stories now at this age, it's like the coolest thing ever. I know. I recorded my grandma. Like I asked her a bunch of questions and recorded her. I still need to edit it and put it together. I've been backed up on like five drives. I know. I'm just like, it's just so important to not lose, but doing stuff like that with your family, it's, it's so special. But okay. Because when you don't have the opportunity to regret it, you'll regret that you didn't do it. Absolutely. Absolutely. So if you do get the opportunity, do it. Well, and to show your kids who maybe didn't get the opportunity or your kids' kids who didn't get the opportunity. To see that would be crazy. It's just, we're on the first end of the generations that have had the capability to take very easily a high quality video and recording of someone in real time that then you can save and show down the road. I mean, that's why I've been, this is another random thing, but it's a great tip for everyone listening. If you get a little bit into VR, now that your phone can shoot it, when you shoot VR content and then you watch it back on a VR headset, it feels like you are there in that moment. Way more than holding your phone and videotaping in that moment because it allows you to literally sit there and you're not bound by what the person with the camera does. You can look around and they're there, 3D, right in front of you. To experience someone like that is way different than an old photograph or this or that. It is mind blowing. If more people understood the power of that, I think more people would take advantage of it. So if you're curious, look into it because when you watch those videos back, you're just like, wow, I can't wait to show this to my kids one day. Maybe Justin will make you guys a video on how. To do that on your phone and how to do it in a headset once you do it on your phone. I don't know what that all entails because I'm not that tech savvy. So maybe you'll do that for everyone. Sure. Maybe even a headset giveaway. Oh, there you go. Because I upgraded. But we're going to move on to this next story. This is going to be a little different than the rest of the episode because it's time for a special segment called Hidden Gem brought to you by Depop. Okay. So let's see why I picked this one. And it is spooky, you guys. It fits into today's theme. Has anyone experienced missing items in their home reappearing in odd places? Last week, I was cleaning up my apartment before I had guests over for the weekend. I was in the bathroom removing all of the clutter off the sink when I saw the jewelry I'd left. A necklace, an oddly one earring. I was upset and stressed that the other earring was missing because I saw the jewelry I'd left. Because I know I'd left a set of earrings in the corner of the counter. So I continued cleaning off the sink, assuming the missing earring must have fallen down into the sink by mistake. I took a break and looked for a solid 10 minutes in the bathroom looking for the missing earring in case it might have fallen on the floor. I looked everywhere on the floor and nothing. So I had taken the extra washcloths out of the cupboard underneath the sink and placed them on the floor to make room for the new clean thing. I left the bathroom for 5 minutes to go into the living room and fold the new towels. After I folded them, I went back into the bathroom, knelt down, and placed them in the cupboard. I go to grab the extra washcloths. The strangest thing was, the missing earring was placed perfectly on one of the extra washcloths. It looked as if someone deliberately had placed the missing earring on one of the extra washcloths. And there was my wallet laying on my chest. So it's like a dream, but it's not a dream, you know? That's what's weird about this stuff. It's gotta be a helpful ghost bringing back all these little hidden items. But what's funny about that one is they didn't wake up and it was just sitting on the nightstand. No, it's. It was like. Which, like, how would it get there? Like, they don't mention being a sleepwalker. They don't mention anything of that sort. I don't think it was a roommate playing a trick on them. Like, that is giving purely paranormal to me. The roommate trick would be leaving it on the nightstand to mess with them. But, like, well, and it was also half a dream. I know. So if you dreamt it and it was happening in reality, we're in somewhere in between reality and, I don't know, multi-dimension. I don't know what it is. Dude, the astral projection of it all. I don't know where the ghost land is. I don't know where the ghosts exist in the realm of reality. But they can do very real things. Yeah, like find all the little hidden gems that you're missing. So that one, it's like, did they find them? of missing their missing wallet or did they take it and put it back they mess with them i'm going with option b i think i think some of these spirits are little little tricksters but that is all for our hidden gem brought to you guys by depop just like these stories sometimes the brightest treasures are the ones you don't expect it's those kinds of hidden gems that make depop so special beyond the trends and the hype it's about sharing those unique pieces that truly stand out and deserve a second life a second chance to be worn by someone or you could just be on the look for an item maybe one that went missing and you don't have a ghost to help you find it maybe it's on depop so download depop to start selling today where taste recognizes taste but moving along thanks depop okay this next one we live in a house that is exactly 100 years old and we are the third owners there were the builders and farmers in the 1920s the second owners from 1970 to 2022 and then my husband and i from 2022 until now we have seen our ghost and believe it is a nice spirit here's what we've been able to gather from the neighbors the second owners bought the house as soon as they got married they had seven children in the home plus themselves right after their seventh baby was born the father passed away we've heard some conflicting stories about how the house was built about what exactly happened such as he fell off a ladder or had a stroke but we know that it was an injury at the home and he passed away sometime in the 1980s now for our experience shortly after moving into the house we got blink cameras we would notice that the backyard and side yard cameras would go off during the night but we didn't have the recording feature yet well we got them and one night we got the same backyard notification you can see that we got the same you can clearly see a man walking from the garage to the side of the yard which has a side door into our house video attached we have had many many experiences with our ghost they mostly occur right before we go to sleep specifically if we forget to do something before we go to sleep usually as we go up the stairs my husband and i will see a shadow or a figure of a man standing in our downstairs entryway every time we see the ghost we will see him standing in our downstairs entryway the man in our entryway without a doubt something has been unlocked or unclosed sometimes it's the garage side door sometimes it's the side door for the house is left open or unlocked sometimes we left the window open or the front door unlocked anytime something is open my husband or i will catch a glimpse of what we know as the previous owner of the home it's sweet almost like he's not a ghost it's not scary but comforting no way this this is me as a ghost this is me oh my gosh the way i try and take care of things and make sure everything's set before i go to bed i've done that my whole life yeah even when i was a kid i'd be checking the doors and things like that make sure the faucet no no water is running make sure you know anything outside is put away or off i don't know i've just i've had that and obviously i still do it every night some nights i'll be just about to fall asleep i'll sit up out of bed you know this yeah and i'll walk out i'll go and i'll have to lock my car and sure enough it would have been unlocked you know what you've been really bad at doing lately why don't you tell everyone what you've been really bad about maybe we need this guy to stop by our house then honestly our ghost has not been helping us in this regard no tell everyone what you've been doing lately doing justin what have you been really bad at you make it sound like it's happened a hundred times it has happened at least three times a week for quite some time now a week yeah no it's happened literally four times in the last week we've been home no that's exaggerating uh-uh yeah happened the night we got back from the airport from our honeymoon happened last night two times in like the last three four weeks no no no it's at least three or four times tell everyone what you've been doing no not after it's been so poorly you know represented here justin will get home use his keys to unlock the door and then come in the house and shut the door what he doesn't do is pull his keys out of the door so just anyone could just walk up to the sidewalk and just turn the key and come in our house or just take the car take the car yes car keys are also attached to the house i mean it shows we live in a pretty pretty safe place because uh you know they've been out there all night sometimes yeah we haven't been murdered yet door doesn't open everything's good it's like a test you need to stop doing this that's bad it's like a test it's bad okay so i'm going to show you the video of this ghost it is a little difficult to see okay i had to watch a few times to get it but watch in this left hand corner of the video sure and you will kind of see what i'm gonna let you watch do you see it there oh yeah 100 you have to like really all of a sudden it just pops up like just it literally appears out of thin air yeah and you can see legs like walking yeah it's just a shadow like an opaque is opaque solid what's see-through opaque yeah no it's just a shadow relates to opacity but opaque is solid i thought it's clear you can kind of see through it it's shadowy figure but you can clearly see like the footsteps of him like just moving walking really just making sure but that's it's just so crazy i've never seen myself in a ghost before and i feel like that's what i'd be doing yeah yeah i'd be making sure everything's locked down and everything's right because it's so ingrained in me and i feel like me is and him have this this in common okay because i've just done it forever yeah no i mean that is like a really nice thing like oh something's unlocked windows open like i mean people get kidnapped out of their houses through cut window screen so to have a ghost that's constantly be like hey lock up bitches like when he's kind of watching over yeah no that's really nice but it would still really freak me out to like be walking up your stairs and you kind of glance down you shadowy figure in the foyer that's a nightmare just standing there yeah like you've forgotten something yeah no but the first time you'd see it it'd be like oh my god i'm gonna die yeah i'm about to die oh yeah someone's in my house but the second time or now that now when they see it it's like they probably look at each other and be like did you leave that door unlocked just fred down there which then to have that be the consistent thing that when they see him something is off every time the door the lock whatever it is that's wild i know that's so cool i'm kind of jealous yeah because then i wouldn't have to run through my mind every night as i'm literally falling asleep are the cars locked is this locked is that are the keys on the door if our ghost is listening you can let justin know and not me thank you but not with the legs thing okay yeah don't swipe his legs again don't do that maybe that wasn't our ghost but it was a bad ghost and she took him out our ghost took the bad ghost out yeah i hope so we definitely need to cleanse our new house we got a new house we're moving soon we need to cleanse that thing because there's some energy there not good energy palm springs energy there's some dark dark vibes in that house just no no it didn't but okay we're moving on to this next one yeah hey everyone i heard you wanted to hear about scary experiences for spooky season so i figured this story was scary enough to preface this i am a 30 year old female firefighter who has been seeing spirits and the dead my whole life it's not an uncommon thing for me to see or experience things that others can't and i usually don't react to it much anymore besides telling the spirits to leave me be or giving them answers so they can sort themselves out which leads to this experience it was the final night of our entry-level fire class and we were on our way home from the college campus in our trucks when we got a page for an mva versus motorcycle on one of our local highways mva motor vehicle accident versus motorcycle to save you from details know that it was a horrible accident and unfortunately the motorcyclist didn't make it which is where my experience begins i was told by one of my officers to stay put in the truck after all we had only just been checked off on entry level and we weren't equipped to handle a situation as dire as this one so those who knew cpr were pulled forward the rest of us stayed as told while they were doing everything they could i was in the back of the truck experiencing the tether to this person's life literally cut it felt like a thread being pulled from my chest and snipped shortly after i felt this we were called out of the truck and that's when things got dot dot crazy "'I was standing next to the truck.' when I finally heard and felt this man standing over his body. He was yelling at everyone, asking why nobody was answering him and what was going on, until I saw him turn to me, point, and tell me that he knew I could hear him. So he rushed over to me and started demanding that he got answers. I started out by shaking my head for fear that I would look insane while this horrific accident was going on. I was new. I didn't need everyone knowing I had this ability I have. But once his physical body was moved off of the street and into the ambulance, I told him what was going on, that that was his body, and unfortunately, he had died in this accident. He was distraught. He told me about his family, that he was only out on a ride, that this wasn't supposed to happen like this. I had to tell him that sadly, it had happened. That he really needed to follow his body to the hospital. The ambulance had left by then. And to be with his family so that he could say the goodbyes he needed to. But I couldn't assist any further. Then, he was gone. We left the scene shortly after, since this was now a police matter and we were not to touch anything, and I had to continue on like nothing had happened until I got home to my now husband, who was a great help in keeping me together all these years. The following week, we had a briefing where I was told that I was going to be taken to the hospital. I was all of the information that the patient had given me was confirmed. About his family, why he was out that late, etc. It made it all the more horrifying. And it made me appreciate life so much more. I know that some people may have questions, and a lot of them usually pertaining to the job and how I handle it. But the upside is it's not always that frequent that a spirit will stick around or want to speak. Sometimes they move on without any fuss. Sometimes they thank us for crying. And rarely is it like that first call. Many years in the service has allowed me to learn about myself and how to handle both physical and metaphysical situations individually, which is how all calls should be. Every person and case matters. Of course, feel free to reach out with anything that you may wonder. But until then, that's my story. Happy spooky season, everyone. The moment when. Is insane. The moment when you get. You get pointed at. You. I know you can hear me. I wonder why. I wonder how he was able to sense that. Just because he's screaming, like, what's going on? What's happening? And she's kind of reacting to him like no one else is looking in his direction. But maybe he caught her glance at him. So the thing I'm wondering is, did it look like him? Versus the injuries you saw? Yeah. No, no, no, no, no. Like, does it look like him at all? Is it recognizable to be the same person, right? That's what I'm curious about. When she was having this interaction, you know, because you'd see non-crash pictures of this person afterward on the briefing. Did that look like the spirit you talked to? Or is it more of an indistinguishable, but you know it's him obviously because he's referencing the situation at hand? Yeah. Is it more of just like a white silhouette of a person? Like, almost like a chalk outline that's talking to you? Or is it literally a person, but just maybe a little more like see-through? Like, what are you getting here? Especially even when they see the guy down at the bottom of the stairs in the last story. Yeah. Do you see more attributes like a jacket and pants? Or do you see a face? Because a lot of times you have the suspenders and you could see that he was a white guy and you could see that he had a top hat. Yeah. I'm imagining the guy saw his face. He looked enough human-like for the guy to think you're walking home with some dude. Not that you're walking home with some glowy orb. Yeah. So it's like. Definitely. I think it just depends on the spirit. Well, sure. But it's just, I just, I get so curious now. And then she's saying that right then this guy could have passed on to the other side easily. Or when it's a freak accident and unexpected. Or when, I guess, you die and you're very concerned, like, this wasn't supposed to happen, my family and this and that. Yeah. Then he was right there, right away, standing over his body. So like. A lot of people that have had like near death experiences though, do talk about that. How they were above their body and watching everything happening. Especially like people that die on the operating table in surgery, they talk about like hovering above their body and watching everyone. Right. And like how they operate and do CPR and do all this stuff. So I feel like it is like that. I feel like you do maybe zone out and you see and then have to cross. I don't know. It's so interesting. And I'm like, I'm so curious what all of like the different cultures, like what they think. Well, maybe everyone's. Everyone tell me what the vibe is. Maybe everyone's just guessing also, right? Yeah. Until you really get there, you'll never know. Kind of like the black hole situation. I know. Do you get reincarnated? Right. Like are we in a Truman show and aliens created us in this whole galaxy as like, we're a little pet fish? The egg theory is absolutely terrifying. I am you and you are me and I am you, but at the same time, and just like, I am the same person as everyone else on this planet. Like the egg theory. And you go through every single life, every single death of all existence in life to then become that supernatural being. And I was looking at myself. I was experiencing this situation, not as my body. I was experiencing it from outside, watching it as an outsider. And that to me then starts to play on, well, is there certain things or certain people who can tap into that without really knowing what they're tapping into? A glimpse of that other side, which then does that. You know, lend towards the reincarnation theory, that if it is kind of this back and forth, people who are not necessarily having a near death or death experience can step outside briefly and come back, but they don't know, you know, there's not enough perspective there to know. Maybe it's not as strong as when you're on the operating table and looking down at yourself. You know, I just, oh man. I know. I just get so curious. I just want to know so bad. I wonder. I'm just like, I don't know. I'm just, I don't want to find out anytime soon, but. My whole life. Yeah, but this one seems to be. This was intense. Yeah. This was really intense and like tragic, like to come up on that scene and then like he's like in shock. It's so tragic that it's just like, I have a really hard time with death. Like all death is just like sad to me, but when people just have like these just accidents that are no fault of their own and they get taken out from someone else's actions, like drunk driving, like that's. That really just shakes me. And that's the thing. Like, I don't. Maybe sometimes it makes you feel better if you attach meaning, but I don't think like it is your time. I think there's just cards dealt and wrong place, wrong time. Sure, you can up your odds or lower your odds of dying, right? If you go skydiving or if you drive a lot versus if you're always staying home, there's different levels of risk. Yeah. And since it kind of is part of this whole beyond us, we have no idea, I've never fully been convinced that, oh, it's your time. No. I think it's just your time is obviously whenever it happens, but I don't know if it's predetermined preset that you're going to die on this day in this way and there's meaning behind it. No. Like, I don't think people get sick on purpose and that's how they. I think there's just like the flukes of the universe and it can just like almost be the butterfly effect or a domino where it's like one choice 30 years ago could have gotten you sick down the line and it's just like. You don't know. Yeah. You just never know. But no, I don't like thinking negative stuff is like fate. I don't like that. But all the negative stuff is what makes life and happy, healthy life so beautiful because you only get so much. Yeah. You never know how much. You never know what you have left. So really, really got to just enjoy whatever it is while you're here. I know. Moving on to this next story. This episode is presented by State Farm. 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But you know, with an actual fitting room, shop online at marisas.com and use code THT10 for an extra 10% off your total purchase. Okay, so this one, the person prefaces it, not really spooky, more chilling. About six or seven years ago, my grandpa passed away and my grandma put his ashes in a bowling pin. He was a bowler and in one of those bowling leagues. After his passing, my grandma didn't like being alone and one of our family friends, Melissa, needed a place for her and her kids to stay since they were in a tough situation financially. One night, after my grandma had gone to bed, Melissa was watching TV in the living room. Remote was next to my grandma and grandpa's chair on the other side of the room. And suddenly, the TV flickered off. She didn't think much of it and got up to turn the TV back on when she noticed two footprints in the carpet facing my grandma's shut bedroom door. Another night, her son was a toddler and in his room talking to someone. And when my grandma asked who he was talking to, he said, grandpa. There were other instances where we would feel a chill in the air. My grandma keeps her house at 75 degrees. Anytime I stayed over, I would have very vivid dreams of my grandpa visiting. The footprints in the carpet outside of my grandma's room happened almost nightly. If you were watching TV too late, the TV would just shut off. And no, we didn't have one of those TV timers for the TV to shut off at a certain time. After six months of little things like that happening, my grandma moved my grandpa's ashes outside of the house to a shed. And all of those things stopped. Put him in the shed. The shed? Come on, he's having a good time. Now he's stuck in the shed. He's stuck in the shed. Now he gone. He gone. He's in the shed. In 75 degrees? I'd be dying. That's so hot. Oh, I'd be dying. I would cool it down, put a heater in her room. But I don't know. I'm like just getting so lost in thought on all these, but you know, maybe. I can't believe it was such a drastic change in what was happening just from moving the ashes to the shed. And it's like, okay, you moved the ashes to the shed and everything stopped. But is your grandpa now stuck in the shed? I know. Like, is he somehow connected to his physical self, even though it's changed forms? It's now ash, but like he's still stuck to it to the point where you brought the ashes out and it stopped. Like, what does that mean? Now you're going to make him real mad. Well, what if he's just sad and lonely out there? Yeah. So what if you brought the ashes back in? Would it start again immediately? That's what I would want to know. This, and these are the things we would do. These are the things we're going to do if we ever experience these things. We're going to leave the toy on the track in the basement. We're going to bring the ashes out. Sure. See if it stops. If it stops, bring it back in. You know. We're going to do science experiments. We're going to start to learn. I wonder if my mom needs to do this in her house. Have you, you remember she called us that one night and she was like, I feel like I'm seeing shadows. Yes. And like, I feel like I'm seeing shadows. And like, I feel like Rod is still here. So my mom's husband, partner of long time died from colon cancer. Get checked. And after he passed, which he passed in the house, he was hospice in the house. Pretty soon after my mom like would call us and was like, I'm seeing shadows. Like, I feel like someone's here in the house with us. Like, well, with me, it was just her. And she just kept seeing shadows and like feeling like there was, there was a presence downstairs, especially in that room. We've only stayed there one time since. And like, I can't sleep in that room. Yeah. I can't do it. And that used to be the room we stayed in. Now I'm like, nope, can't go in that room. Yeah. But like the ashes, she's got his ashes in the house. It's in a really nice urn. And I'm just wondering if like, if she moved the ashes, if she would stop seeing shadow figures and stuff. I feel like that house has had some energy even before that. Well, cause it's big and it's just like, there's, it's just kind of complicated to get around and there's so many hidden little things. But even still, it's got, it's got something. You feel it? Oh yeah. Huh. Now that I'm tapped in. Yeah. Oh man. You're tapped in. But I like that. I don't know. I kind of would want grandpa to be back inside. I like the, because it reminds me of the other guy making sure that, you know, the TV's off at a certain time. Yeah. Making sure to check in. Making sure to check in on his, his wife who now he can't check in on. The footprints don't appear anymore because he's in the shed. I know though. Seeing the footprints just like hovering outside the door, like wanting to go in and be with her. But then someone else could be hearing this and being like, no, Morgan, that's a, that's a bad, that wasn't grandpa. That was something a little, I don't know. Well then why the, why the pin in the, why the ashes in the shed and it stops? I know. Well, I also think the little boy, the little kid. Kids, man. Talking. So susceptible. The kid talking and grandma being like, who are you talking to? And he goes, grandpa. Yeah, that was grandpa. I'm not giving any demonic spirit credit for that one. That was definitely grandpa. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This is why it'd be fun to have kids. Cause then we can, hopefully they're tapping in. I do have a story for patron where someone talks about their grandma being tapped in and they're like, I hope my son isn't tapped in. Oh. And he stays in. And he's protected. I mean, what if, you know, on patron, what do you, if you have a kid and it's like one of Matt's kids ages, right? Yeah. Young, but aware they're starting to be, you know, when a kid goes from being young and not knowing to just slightly aware where they're like, they start asking questions. Yeah. Right in that age. What if you had a kid and they started and they started just confidently saying, yeah, there's this person that runs around the house in the middle of night. And they come in and they, they, they're on the ceiling and they're, we're moving, we're moving, but just confident, not scared. Yeah. And just like, yeah, we hang out every night. Kids just like that really freaks me out because it's like, you could have your kid that sees ghost or you could get a kid that's reincarnated. Like I watched a video from someone, I think I talked about it recently. I don't understand those. Yeah. And this lady was like, my kid is pissed that they have to go back to school again. He already did this in his other life. Oh my God, I would be. He's pissed. He doesn't want to go to school. I would be pissed about that. But she like kept getting details from him and he like remembered his family and he rode horses and blah, blah, blah, like all this crazy shit. So they were like trying to track down his past life and all this stuff. But yeah, no, that's a nightmare. Imagine going back and starting first grade again right now. Hell no. Oh my God. I'd love to do high school over. High school, sure. But to work all the way up one through 12 all the way again, all that work. I feel like Madison did it. He can do it. Yeah. I forget. I got to talk to Matt and Amy, my brother and sister-in-law. Eloise kind of was asking questions about a spirit and there was someone that died in their house. And then when Amy's other grandma died, Eloise was like, I feel her when she died. Eloise was like, I saw grandma Joyce or something like that. I forget what it was. We're going to have to ask them about it. Eloise is tapped in. Eloise might be tapped in. Oh, all right. She, you know, one day she'll have to sit here and give her takes. One day when she can consent to coming on. They always try to sneak in my shots when I'm at their house recording and I'm like, get out of here. I don't know. That's an interesting thing too. I can't decide what we'll do with like our kids and like showing faces and not showing faces. I don't know. Maybe it becomes clear once they're here. Once you have them, I think. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. We'll see. We'll see. Okay. I've got two stories for us left. Yes. And then we're off to Patreon. Long time listener and lurker excited to finally have something to contribute. When I was young, 11 in 1999, my mom and soon to be stepfather decided to go to a cabin in the mountains of Cedar City, Utah for a few days. It was an end of the summer hurrah. The cabin was owned by a friend of the family, but it would only be us attending for this trip. When we arrived, it felt very. Very alone. The trees were thick and the cabin was nice. It was fairly updated and had a lot of fun. a small play set and swings near the fire pit in the backyard. We had our big dog with us and we all played and had fun during the day. That night we roasted hot dogs and marshmallows in the fire pit and my stepdad took a photo of us in the dark with flash on our film camera. He told us to point our flashlights at the ground so it did not distort the picture. We went to bed shortly after and that's when the unease started. My little brother, five, and I shared a room and after we heard our parents go to bed, we felt the uneasy, sick feeling. I whispered in the dark across the room to ask him if he was okay. He said, no, I am not and don't look out the window. What? I felt it too. I kept my eyes closed and pulled the covers over my head. I felt it in my bones that if I looked out the window, I would not be able to see. I felt it in my bones that if I looked out the window, I would not be out the window, I would be scared to death. Neither of us slept at all that night. As soon as the sun started rising, we quietly went to our parents' room and knocked on the door. They answered and opened it immediately. They were already awake. They hadn't slept either. Silently, the whole family decided to skip breakfast and we all started loading our bags into the car. We were supposed to be there for two more nights, but I think we all felt the dread too. We were supposed to be there as soon as we got to a bigger road a few miles away. It was as if all the tension had been lifted. We all relaxed and started chatting again as normal. Life goes on, we forget, and nothing happened, so all was fine. Until we developed the camera roll. My mom looked at the pictures first, smiling and getting ready, seeing a deer on the side of the road, playing on the playset during the daylight, and then dusk, and finally, the sun. I was so excited. I was so excited. I was the photo that was taken at night. Me, my mom, and my brother, standing and smiling, our flashlights pointed at the ground where the light beam hit the dirt and then bounced above our heads in cursive gibberish, seemingly backwards. My mom showed me the funny photo and how strange the light beams did that. I looked at the photo and started sobbing. I looked past the strange cursive at the trees behind us and in the darkness, and I could see faces, not quite human, staring back at us, looking straight at the camera. There was more than we could define in this old film photo, some looking very demonic. My mom flipped out, started crying, showed my stepdad, and he burned the photo and the film. Even now, at 37, writing this out, it brings the sting of tears to my eyes. That feeling in the cabin was, horrible at night, and we still don't know exactly what it was. A demon. That is a demon. So we don't have the photo. Photo is gone. I had a little question on the form that said, do you have any photographic evidence? I wish all evidence was sadly destroyed. And honestly, I don't think that's very sad. I mean. Not for them. I feel. For me. I want to see the photo. Are you kidding? After all that? That sounds horrendous. I wouldn't want to see the photo. What would they have seen out the window? I feel like it would have been, like, something out there looking in the window. Like, if they would have made eye contact, it would have, like, snatched them up or something crazy. So how did the little five-year-old say, how did he know to say, don't look out the window? I think he felt it. That's what's the scariest part. Or maybe he, like, got really scared and, like, glanced up, saw it, and then was like. What did he see? That's what I need to know. Where is he at? Because our writer now is 37, 36. So if they were five, that's six. They're 30-ish. They're our age. Where are they at? What did your brother see? Call us up. I'm also curious if after, like, this whole thing, if your parents talked to their friends, the family friend, whoever's cabin this was, and was like, hey, so something happened. Some demons. Because it wasn't just seeing the faces in the trees behind. It was the flashlights bouncing up and creating cursive, which is just giving, like, demon writing on a wall. Like, you know, when people get possessed and they write, like, some old-ass Latin that hasn't been spoken, and it's, like, backwards and demonic and shit. That's what that's giving with the light reflecting up. And imagine how horrifying as a parent, after you, you know, you and I could probably, like, rile each other up and spend the whole night awake, scared. Yeah. But then the next morning, your kids come and knock on your door. And you've been awake. Like, your kids hasn't woken you up. Like, it's truly two unrelated things, but everyone's feeling it. Your little kids. Yeah. Even the five. Yeah. Dude, that, I think, is the moment of, especially then it's reconfirmed also when you see the photo. And how. Terrifying to think that you're all there, happy, taking this picture, just having this fun little getaway weekend, and then there's all this in the background. Then you have that experience at night. And then you get to the next major road and you start feeling okay. Yeah. Because the further you get, the less that energy can, like, get to you. It's kind of one of those things where, like, people. What is that movie? It's, like, Amityville Horror or something? Like, family moves into a house, and, like, the dad. Goes crazy and kills the family or something like that. I do think places can hold such dark, just crazy energy. Yeah. That it latches on to you. So, I'll pose a question. Okay. And this is more for our friends that are listening right now. Okay. Maybe it's nighttime. Duh! Maybe it's a dark car, dark room. I hope it's the middle of the day. Maybe you're listening to this trying to fall asleep and you're alone at home. No chance. I know you guys wouldn't do this. I challenge you to peek out your window. Hell no. Don't do it. Peek out your window. Don't do it. Confirm that this isn't happening to you right now. Also, is it more scary if you develop that photo and there's all these faces in the woods and they are humans, alive humans, or does it scare you that they're not really human and then you have this night? What is more terrifying? I think either one because you didn't see them when you took the photo. It doesn't matter if it's. Human or demonic. At least it wouldn't matter to me because it's like either way, dad took the photo and did not see any of that behind him. And then the light bounced up. Oh, I know. I know. But I'm just saying, you know, what is scarier? Just to give everyone that little feeling of the chills. Pink Panther is here. 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These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease. We're gonna have to ask the person who wrote in our final story. This is coming from our email address on our website, foodanddrink.com. You can find us on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Twitter, and Twitter. You can find us on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, and Twitter. And I'm gonna read one of them here. The other one's gonna go on Patreon. I truly have so, so, so many good stories from you guys. Like again, over 500, 500 and what did I say? 574 on this thread. And if I refreshed it, I'm sure there's new ones. 576. There's so, so, so many good stories. I'm gonna try to get a lot of them over on Patreon. So come over there. There's one that she kind of gives this little blip. I will preface this story by saying it has creeped out non-believers. So hold tight. Like we've got so many good stories and there will be an episode for Father Knows, whether it's just me and Justin, it's going to drop on that channel. Okay. But something's coming. So if you want more spooky, that's where it's going to be. So this is like paranormal activity investigator kind of. Yeah. Or the conjuring when the, when the couple comes in and they. Yeah. Jake actually did get a chance to meet Lorraine Warren. He had a conversation with her. Yeah. And Jake did not send me pictures last time, but I can't show everyone at home, but I can show you. So you'll get an idea of who our investigators are. Okay. Okay. I'm gonna show you a picture of Jake and his, his friends, the, the team of investigators. Okay. I'm picturing Ghostbusters. That's Jake. - Okay. - That's who's writing us. - All right. face to the name now sure okay jake is also the investigator that sent us like one of the crazy stories i think we've read on this podcast about going to that old hotel in chicago and like having that time slip yes that was jake's investigation yes where everything was like in the 30s or 20s they literally went to go investigate their uncle's haunted hotel because all the workers kept having haunted experiences and then they walked in and the hotel was like done and remodeled and ready to go perfect he walked out to call uncle and uncle was like what are you talking about it's not done yet and they turned around and everything they had just seen was like gone and it was like a ruin oh is that different than the where they're driving and the time started slipping as they're going down the highway and they went into that town yep that's a different story okay time slips are crazy i'll make sure the first spooky one here i read jake's original crazy episode crazy episode i read it to kaylin on one of her episodes of heart starts pounding and i'm excited to see what people think of it over there so this story from jake it's got a little bit of a title it's called the haunting of sink hollow road and jake does give a trigger warning for this story it does contain mentions of sa so if you feel that you cannot handle that today please end the episode here come join us over on patreon it's gonna be a good month over there and thank you for being a part of this spooky episode and our spooky season from two hot that was good i like that okay this particular investigation is near and dear to my heart because it illustrates that sometimes when things seem redundant or ordinary there's a world of complexities buried beneath it during the early days and the formation of our world we're going to be a part of the world we're going to be a part of the we would take pretty much any lead that we could and figured that getting out there in the field would benefit us there was a local legend about a bridge on a road known as sink hollow the local legend seemed quite gimmicky and followed a similar structure to a lot of other low effort tall tales simple formula but we had nothing to lose so we figured why not one drive out to the bridge two park your car and turn off the engine three drive out to the bridge and turn off the turn your headlights on three times while everyone in the car invited something to be seen four at this point in the local legend it was stated that you would see a ghostly apparition we couldn't find any actual accounts of anyone seeing anything other than hearsay and this follows a very predictable pattern with young kids going out into the country and scaring themselves but again for the sake of brevity we decided why not if my memory serves correctly it was a brisk and damp early morning at the beginning of fall somewhere between the hours of saturday night and sunday morning we ventured out along with derrick and eric my teammates from the previous story that would be the base of our team moving forward from this point we arrived at the bridge and the road itself is very difficult to get to as you have to drive through several winding gravel roads to get to the bridge that spans a small creek running through the bridge and the road itself is very difficult to the middle of a field as far as we can tell the bridge was mostly used for farm field access and other locals getting from point a to point b quickly as it is not a bridge that would be traversed often being quite a ways away from any paved roads we arrived at the bridge and joked about how there would be many more encounters like this to come where it would be more road trip than actual encounter we jokingly completed the mock ritual and then sat to absolutely no one's surprise nothing happened no one was disappointed as we knew that the gimmick was just that so instead we got out of the car grabbed a few beverages and sat on the hood of the car while we talked about our lives and our goals for the group we talked about why we were drawn to things like this and why we even came out here as strange and as unlikely as it was that anything would happen for me i've always seen things from a young age that i couldn't understand so i feel like the pull for me was obvious my friend derrick was the thrill seeker of the group any chance he could get to have some sort of excitement he would chase it while he had never seen anything that he couldn't explain up until this point he was a good sport about it lastly we had eric eric was just kind of built different he was a staunch critic and skeptic however he felt the allure and draw of the possibility of seeing something that he didn't understand he loved to put himself in that it was hard for him to justify logically he enjoyed the mental puzzle of the investigation that went on he was also one of the most fearless people i've ever met when everybody was on the edge and creeped out when he heard a noise or something that he couldn't explain he would run to the potential danger we'd all been friends for some time but only previously a week prior had decided to embark on this journey together by forming this team a few drinks down and we have lost sight of the investigation altogether and we're just some midwest kids hanging out on a saturday night when we first heard a voice off in the distance we thought it may be a really loud radio traveling from one of the far off roads but we were quite a ways away it was also very obvious to hear any types of cars or vehicles approaching due to the crunching of the gravel and there was none the voice got louder and this time was crystal clear quote hey what are you all doing out here the sudden clear tone of the voice made us scramble as at the time we shouldn't have been out there doing what we were doing drinking lol after a few seconds of jumping down off the hood and scrambling about we heard the voice again hey i'm not trying to scare you at all i just want to know what you're doing out here eric turns towards the direction of the voice and said something along the lines of hey i'm not trying to scare you along the lines of we're out here investigating a local legend what about you we all sighed a collective breath of relief when a younger girl about the age of 13 came into the view of the headlights she had freckles all over her face and strawberry blonde pigtails comically similar to what you would picture the wendy's logo to look like complete with overalls after seeing her age and seeing that we were kind of in the middle of nowhere we asked her who she was and if she needed help and she said no i'm not sure i don't know what to do with her i'm just gonna go to the as it was kind of strange for a 13 year old girl to be out there all alone she explained that she lives not too far from here and that despite people driving through here often this is private property she pointed to a dark silhouette on the horizon she had explained that she saw our headlights and after they had blinked a few times she was worried that we were in trouble so she came to check we explained the absurdity of the local legend to her and she looked quite perplexed and thought that it was silly that we would come out here in the middle of the night to test something so far-fetched in this moment we felt quite silly ourselves she stayed polite but after a few moments she reiterated that it was private property and that we really should be leaving as we are technically trespassing we started the process of packing up a few things that we had gotten out of the car and let her know that would be on her way and asked her if she would like a ride back to her house she calmly explained that while it was sweet to offer we really should be going and that her father has a really bad temper and does not take kindly to strangers on his property she mentioned that while she had never heard the local legend her daddy the exact words that she called him would often have to chase away strangers in the middle of the night and his patience was wearing thin and with one final warning she said quote please leave before daddy comes out you may regret it we got into the car and quickly drove away seeing her slowly walk off the side of the road near the bridge into the glow of our taillights until she was out of view the rest of the ride home was rather uneventful however something about the encounter struck us all as strange there was something weird about it that we couldn't quite put a finger on other than the obvious fact that a 13-year-old was in the car was out in the middle of a field by a creek at night all by herself we go back to the house that we were sharing me and eric decided to turn in for the night however derrick could not let it rest and decided to do some internet sleuthing we woke up the next morning to see him asleep on the couch with his laptop open after waking him up and asking him if he had found anything he jolted awake and showed us an old newspaper clipping from an internet archive the newspaper article was a picture of the girl that we had spoken with last night however the clipping was dated 1963 the context of the article was difficult to read quote local girl found dead in creek the article went on to describe that a quick investigation revealed a family secret the young girl whose name was emily had been repeatedly sexually assaulted by a family member who had been sexually assaulted by a family member who had been sexually assaulted her dad, and one night she attempted to escape at which point her father tracked her down and drowned her while she was hiding under the bridge. As per our other stories that you've heard from us, I do believe that there is a lesson. I believe the paranormal hauntings can exist for the sake of saturation in human suffering, but I do believe that this girl's spirit watched over this bridge to warn people of her father. The trauma might have bonded her spirit to the area, but the kindness of her persevered on, and we believe that is what we interacted with that night. An act of kindness in the dark, on a lonely bridge, on a lonely road. Holy shit. Yeah. Whew. Sad. It's like so sad. I'm just like teary-eyed reading it. Well, it's just also just so scary. See, if I were Derek. Yeah, who found the internet search?. I would have realized. ran into the rooms and been like. Get your asses up. Oh my God. I don't think I would have fallen asleep after finding that. But I guess you've been up all night, but still like. It probably took him forever. I mean, I tried doing a Google search trying to find anything from like all the buzzwords I have in this write-in and I mean, I'm not finding anything. Like, it probably took going through that local newspaper's archives online and like really trying to find something. It's crazy. I. I can't even picture encountering such a clear apparition that way and for such a long duration. I am like a little jealous of Jake, even though I don't really want to have an experience again. I am a little jealous that like a lot of the experiences we've read from him have been so real and like all-encompassing. Like the time slip to go back to that hotel in Chicago and be walking through the balls. to go back to the ballroom and to be seeing waiters and a bellhop and like all of these people in this grand hotel. Yeah. And then you get out and it was. it's. it's gone. You didn't. that didn't happen, but yet it did. It just was like a. it was a slip. And then for this girl to like present herself and you have such a clear form and she's just so focused on like hey, like not trying to scare you guys, but like you should really just. you should get out of here. It's private property. I don't want my dad to get mad. Like my dad's got a temper. Like go. You should be safe. Go, go. Like she's so clear and so focused on keeping them safe. Yeah. So yeah, like I don't know what I believe and why some spirits stay and why some are able to send signs and I don't know. It's just, it's really interesting. And I do, I do just want to say like if you've asked your family member for a sign and you haven't gone to the hospital, and you haven't gotten it yet, it doesn't mean that you're not gonna get one. It just might not be the right time. Or hey, maybe they've tried to push a cup off the table and you just walked away and you didn't see it yet. Like I do want you, if you're waiting for something, to like not get discouraged that it hasn't happened yet. Because I know a lot of people do like wait for the sign. They wait for the butterfly. They wait for, you know, something to happen. And I don't want anyone to get discouraged and sad that it hasn't happened to them. Sure. But back to this one. That was a blip in my head that I've wanted to say since the story earlier. And I finally got it out. I wonder, you know, my thought, my first thought is, did you go back? I know. Because I would be so curious to go back. And maybe you even bring someone that's not part of the three of you. Bring a fourth person to say, hey, are we absolutely crazy? Or is this happening? Because what I would think is, do you go back and you hang out and you spend some time there? If she comes back out and says, why did you come back? That would be absolutely wild. And like, you know, the next time I go back, I'd have a dash cam. I know. I wonder if you would even. Or do they just not when they're, when they know there's an intention to record and whatever, is it just. I don't know. I mean. Like paranormal activity is a movie, right? Yeah. And all these people would try to capture these things. It's movies. It's not. I mean, we've, we've had some clips, we've had some clips, but like. Yeah, we've had clips. I mean, the duck one is really like, that one for me is like very, like, that's real. I mean the blink camera, that felt real. I think of the ring toss one, the ring under the wall and then the girl turns. And that was recorded by someone you know. And like, there was no little girl in that house. Like we've, we've talked about that video on a past episode where. We scroll through it so much, just. It's so creepy. Like Justin knows a girl who. Had some friends in New York and they were playing like this ring game and you like let the ring go. Where it hooks on the wall. And it goes onto a hook. It's like the ring is on a pendulum string and you pull it back and it hooks. It's at bars usually. It's at bars. There's mini versions. And as they're playing, they're recording themselves playing. And in the background of the video, like a little girl in a Victorian dress walks by. And no one else was there. No, she turns and goes down the hallway and you can clearly see. Yeah. You clearly see this little girl, little person. This is before AI. Yeah. Well before AI was out and granted, you know, there's technology that could have done it, but like. There's stuff like that. Why? What would the purpose have been? Right? No, I know. And it, because it's someone like, you know, it's that much more believable, but I don't know. I mean, how am I kind of at a loss with all these paranormal stories and I've got more episodes, more crazy stories. I took a sneak peek at Jake's other story we have, and it's about this haunted farm. Yeah. And I can't share the real name, however, I can't share the real name because the owner of the farm doesn't want any public like recognition anymore, it's kind of like shutting the doors. Yeah. But if you Google the name of the farm, it is like, it comes up and multiple people share experiences on this farm. So we have Jake's investigation. Okay. Story. So that's going over to Patreon. Speaking of farms. Mm-hmm. We were just home for months. Yes. Setting up the wedding venue. And I spent many late, dark, foggy nights up by myself. Oh, I know. Where once it get dark, I'd run all the cords up to run my work lights up. And I'd be up there for hours by myself, just hanging chandeliers or whatever I was getting into. Getting the tent ready. And one night I was walking up to put the lights out. And as you're walking up with the lights, they're obviously not on yet. It's pitch black. I mean, you can barely, you got to make sure you're not tripping. You can't see anything in front of you. Like it is pitch black. And so I was just going far enough to where I could connect the next wire and perfectly audible because out there, unless the cars, like cars combined, it's just like as they pass. It's white noise. But there's no other noise. You don't hear anything. And because it's kind of, it was almost misting. Yeah. From the dew point. It was like. So it's misting. It's cloudy. And there's woods. It's silent. It's all natural soundproofing. And as clear as it could audibly be. I heard the equivalent to my left in where the trees were of a, I can only describe it as like a joker laugh. Like a manic laugh. Like it was like really like, like really scary laugh. Like a creepy crown, a clown laugh from like it. Ugh. And. So I walked directly out my left ear directly over that way. And I don't know if there was nothing. I didn't hear any other noises like that the whole time I was out there working for hours and hours. So I don't know. But I heard it. It's very. It's so scary. So clear. Couldn't be like a mental trick because of how real it was. And I turned around and after I got the, the lights actually up, I walked back down. I said, have you guys heard anything? Yeah. Cause me and my mom were in the barn working. You were setting up chandeliers or something. Yeah. It wasn't us messing with you. We didn't hear anything. No, it was it. It was away from you guys. So. It's so, so, so scary. It's like, you're like not the farm, not the farm. I know. Not my happy place. God. If you guys have any paranormal stories to share, please put them in the comments of this YouTube account or on our Instagram post for the episode. I love, love, love reading your stories. And there were. So many amazing stories over on the episode I did with Kaylin. Like I want to read so many of them. Like they were, they were incredible. Like they were such incredible heartwarming comments and I'm gonna read a few to just end this episode because there's so, so many good ones. This one is coming from Mads 2013. My grandfather died after a battle with pancreatic cancer and always said that he'd come back as a dolphin. His ashes are kept in a beautiful brass dolphin urn. Then, a year later, my sister was getting married on the beach when right in the middle of the ceremony, a dolphin came into the shallows and stayed there until the ceremony was done. I have no doubt that was him. This is coming from Savannah. One of my best friends passed away March 12th. I was making some meals for his dad, food equals comfort, and I was taking the last thing out of the oven. When my husband got a call from his mom. He was so upset. He was like, "I don't know what to do. I don't know what to do." He was like, "I don't know what to do." He was like, "I don't know what to do." same amount of money I spent on getting these meals together for Taylor's dad so crazy I firmly believe that was him saying thank you for thinking of his dad during this time see these are the signs that feel more direct like the dolphin thing where it's harder to brush it off and that's why I think we're talking about those are the signs that you you kind of seek and hope for this is from ej 1709 my aunt died and on the first year anniversary of her death we visited her memorial a dog comes running in and greets my mom the owner starts yelling nola which was my aunt's name a pretty uncommon name where we live we knew in that moment she was letting us know that she was still here even if we couldn't always see her just took control of the dog I know there's so many crazy comments I mean someone comments like that they know that that one story with the time slip going through the bridge in that old timey town is real like they've been there it's super haunted okay that one I've I've never forgotten I think about all the time I think I think we have to go I don't want to go to Coppertin Utah I'm out I'm out we'll do it for the spooky episode of 2026 it's crazy it's so crazy take you guys on the road with us I don't know if I can do it like I joked with Kaylin that I would go to this haunted sanatorium and like I genuinely I don't know if I can do it I don't know I don't know I'll go we've got a lot of people sharing stories about losing someone and like butterflies being a sign which I love like I I love love love butterflies there's a write-in here from Lady Finch I was in a very bad domestic situation for many years and was basically held captive for days around the second day I would hear a voice tell me things to pay attention to like footsteps to count until I heard the door etc I was in and out of consciousness due to some of the things I was being put through but on the third maybe fourth day I heard quote open door then take 35 steps open front door and run you can do this I was able to escape and this voice saved my life I always thought the voice sounded like my great-grandmother but was just something that I was able to escape from and I was able to escape from and I was able to escape from and I was able to escape from and I was able to escape from something I made up in my mind to help deal with the trauma but you guys talking about the third man gave me the chills thank you for the clarity oh wow I know there's so so so many so many good comments from you guys on this episode with Kaylin and I've read so many of them someone else shared a story like that their dad had sleep apnea didn't get a CPAP and he had a night where he was deep in sleep but knew he stopped breathing he swears he heard my mom yell his name she had passed a year prior there's so many of these the yell in the name ones those are there's so many good stories and that's horrifying I cannot share the link for my google form unless I do some work and like delete emails and all this stuff so if you've got a story please please please share them in the youtube comments I go through all of these stories like I really really really appreciate you guys sharing and I'll see you in the next one bye and so many of them clearly other people see because they're super liked and all of this so share your stories if you have them but it's all I got for this paranormal episode it was a doozy I feel like I'm gonna have to sleep with uh a nightlight on tonight we're gonna have some interesting dreams tonight we're headed over to patreon it's gonna be a really really good month over there and uh this will be in the middle tier the spooky episode will be in the mid tier so not the top tier but it's the mid tier so you get two episodes if you come join us this and another one um so I'll see you guys over there but thank you so much for being here another spooky season until next time until next time bye guys bye pink panther 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  1. Botox is an approved treatment for adults with chronic migraine (15 or more headache days per month), reducing headache days by 2–3 compared to placebo.
  2. Botox injections are administered by a doctor and may cause serious side effects, including breathing difficulties, swallowing issues, or muscle weakness, especially in those with pre-existing conditions.
  3. Individuals should disclose medical history, nerve or muscle disorders, and use of botulinum toxins to their doctor before receiving treatment.
  4. A skin infection or allergic reaction (like rash or dizziness) is a contraindication for Botox use.
  5. The episode features listener-submitted paranormal stories, including a haunting shadow figure, a deceased father’s “messages” through music, a Jeep and a duck light-up, and a mysterious neighbor.
  6. One story suggests a “guardian angel” narrative, where a neighbor falsely reported a white man with a top hat, later revealed to be a protective sign from a spirit.
  7. The concept of ancestral protection and "spiritual connections" is explored, with stories showing how the dead may influence or guide the living.
  8. A recurring theme is the importance of preserving family history through journals, recordings, and memories to maintain cultural and emotional continuity across generations.

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This episode blends medical and paranormal content, beginning with a detailed discussion of Botox as a treatment for chronic migraine. It outlines key safety considerations, contraindications, and side effects, emphasizing the importance of medical disclosure and doctor consultation. The narrative then shifts to a collection of listener-submitted paranormal stories, ranging from a shadowy figure seen outside a home to a series of coincidences—like a song playing at a Dunkin’, a matching Jeep, and a duck lighting up—suggesting possible messages from a deceased father.

Another story involves a neighbor falsely reporting a strange encounter, later interpreted as a sign of protective spiritual energy. The episode highlights themes of ancestral presence, ghostly guardianship, and the "third man factor," where individuals feel protected during crises. It concludes with a reflective note on the importance of preserving family history through journals, recordings, and shared memories, underscoring how personal stories and cultural traditions help bridge generations.

The segment is framed by promotional messages from AbbVie, Revolve, Cash App, and Chrysler, but remains focused on storytelling and human experiences.

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Chronic migraine is defined as 15 or more headache days per month, each lasting four hours or more. Botox (onabotulinum toxin A) helps prevent headaches in adults with chronic migraine by reducing the frequency of episodes. On average, it prevents eight to nine headache days per month compared to six to seven with a placebo.

Botox is approved only for adults with 15 or more headache days per month. It is not recommended for those with 14 or fewer headache days per month.

Serious side effects may include difficulty swallowing, speaking, breathing, eye problems, or muscle weakness. These symptoms can indicate a life-threatening condition and require immediate medical attention.

You should inform your doctor if you have conditions like ALS, myasthenia gravis, or Lambert-Eaton syndrome, or are taking botulinum toxins, as these increase the risk of serious side effects.

No, you should not receive Botox if there is a skin infection at the injection site, as it can lead to complications.

The third man factor refers to a phenomenon where a person feels a protective presence during a life-threatening event, such as a seizure or emergency, often perceived as a ghost or guardian angel, which may be a psychological response to danger.

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