Side Stories: True Crime Trial Update - Summer 2026

There's no place to escape to, and this is the last talk on the left. Side stories? That's when the cannibalism started. Side stories? Yes. So we recorded this episode of Side Stories last week and attempt to get ready for a little. We do a little summer vacation every year, but we want to keep you guys set with as many shows as possible so that you don't ever feel alone in this horrible world of ours. But unfortunately, what happens? What if we want to be alone? You can go fuck off. You're anything to go fuck off some places. It's great. No! No! You're not alive! But we wanted to do a cover last week. We wanted to cover all of the various trials that were going on currently. It's a big update episode. It was, and what I love about Side Stories is no matter when we recorded it, the second we're done recording everything changes. So we recorded what was just kind of the beginning ramp up to a bunch of different trials, and everything's different as of last week. It was a bunch of cases that haven't changed in months, and every one of them changed. So before you listen, just know here are the updates. Nick Reiner was not allowed to get his trust fund. Did you make a shit, you fucker? I'm not fucking idiot, finally is being punished in some way because he has what's considered to be, I believe the term is slasher status. I believe is the term, because we know that they're still kind of fighting it, but right now they are saying that he does not have access to that money, because he is in fact the guy that killed the people that gave him the money. But he's not guilty yet. Not yet. But soon. I can't believe he's actually put in a not guilty plea. I need. He's a crazy person. I'm covered in blood. He's completely absolutely vacuum and an utter liability and a weight on society. There is nothing going on behind those eyes, man. He is a literal waste of human DNA, and he killed an extremely important artist and destroyed a family, and we know that for a fact, and he can go fuck himself. Absolutely. One is, number two is sadly Luigi Mangione has pled guilty, but that's because he's got class shows that he's way more of a man than Nick Riner will ever be ever be. Make Luigi Mangione. He opened up. He said, yes, I knew what I did was wrong. I chose Brian Thompson randomly. Yeah, he was not, um, he was not part of United Health. He wasn't a customer. No, he was not. Luigi Mangione was not, but Luigi Mangione did come out and he did reveal his reason. And the thing was, he said he had a lifetime of back pain, and he said that the straw that broke the camel's back was when he was trying to speak with somebody, trying to get some kind of answers about it. And so he framed himself as he posed as a multi-millionaire/billionaire potential investor into United Health, and they couldn't have gotten back to him faster. Yes. And so what became the motivating factor and it seemed that Brian Thompson was just the guy he could get at. Yeah, no, basically Brian Thompson walked out of the meeting first. Yeah. So that's why he was got it. But now Luigi Mangione will probably avoid the death penalty. He will most likely just be in jail forever, forever. Yeah. Yeah. You'll probably be in jail forever. Yeah. Unless we get some. I still got some TV show somehow. He's going to get a Netflix podcast and we're looking at you, Netflix, I'm putting this to you. We're booking them. Yeah. Actually, could you help? Gabby, actually great. Netflix. Could you help us book Luigi? Booking at Netflix.com. Could you get Luigi Mangione to be on-site source? Can we visit him in prison? He's the only murderer I actually want to speak to. I do want to still would like to speak to David Berkowitz. Oh, really? But I'm not allowed to because I'm a Christian. Oh, really? He won't talk to anybody that does not believe in the right. He's not Jewish. Oh, no. He's a chosen. He's a new, what's it called? He found for Jesus? Yeah. He found Jesus in prison. Oh, come on, dude. Yeah. You know, I don't know much. You never hear somebody become an ultra-Jewish in prison. No, you never hear about that. That's never something that's like, I'm suddenly Jewish. Well, it's kind of funny. I wonder why did it cite stories, LPL and gmail.com. Why does no one go to prison and be like, I had plenty of time to learn Hebrew? Yeah. I got all the books, there's, I talked to Rabbi over the zoom. I'm pretty sure it's just Muslim Christian and atheist. Let me ask a question. So, sorry. I don't just become a much deeper atheist. I imagine. That's what I assume. There's no Jesus in prison. No. No, even when people try to show them to you, no, no, no. No, no, no. On their body with the tattoos. No. You meet anybody named Jesus in prison? Yeah. They're doing bad things. Yeah. You think their name is Jesus and their name is really Jesus. They get really mad if you try and call them Jesus. They fucking freak out as a matter of fact. And I would double check on that. I would always double check. Right? Or you want to ask them? You a Jesus or a Jesus. No. I'm sorry. I was talking to Berkowitz's dog. Thank you. So, then the final little update is that Lindsey Clancy, a bunch of evidence came out in court that basically said, number one, she Googled how to commit suicide, what to do with hallucinations. So she absolutely knew she was suffering from hallucinations. She reached out to her mother. We now know that she reached out to her mother and said that she would have thoughts of harming the children. And what I still find interesting, and my opinion still stands, is the fact that she told her family members that didn't want to face the seriousness of the problem. So they didn't want to step up to the plate as hardcore as they probably could. And then Lindsey Clancy didn't tell the medical professionals that she was working with all of the details of her actual symptoms because she was afraid of getting her kids taken away or being put into some form of mental asylum, which shows that she was competent. That is my opinion. Yeah. That is my opinion. I think that a lot of people are going to be angry with me even just for saying that up top here, but I just want you to know, I completely believe in postpartum depression and it's and postpartum, which is now we now known as they it's called psychopathy, postpartum psychosis is extremely different. I talked about it. I feel like if you listen to this episode, you will hear our very measured takes on this. Yeah. Now Googling how to kill yourself, that doesn't make you not crazy. No, but it shows that there might have been a plan. Yeah. The main key, the key of the trial is did how much did she plan? How much was a, how cognizant was she of her plan? Because in order to say that she needs to be put into a mental asylum, we basically have to say she was so deep in her mental illness that she had no idea what was going on and she did that of entirely out of impulse and to me, the problem is is that there's a lot of steps in here. She did a lot of what she was feeling from certain people and I still think that her husband and her mother had a lot more responsibility here to step up to the plate. But unfortunately, ladies and gentlemen, it's up to you. And one of the worst parts about United States America and what we're doing with our healthcare system right now, we don't give a fuck about you. It's just up to you. It's no, no professional is going to follow up with you. They cannot read your mind. And unless, yeah, I do believe it all needs to be changed. But you have to work with the system that we currently have. If you don't ask enough questions at the doctor, you're not going to get your shit fixed. You have to fight for yourself, unfortunately, no one's going to fight for you. And if you can't, you've got to bring a friend. You have to bring someone, which is why the, the, now we're saying, and I see a lot of people saying the same thing. Why wasn't the husband there being like, she told me she wanted to hurt the kids. I don't care if it was a, like, that should have been beyond all. She told me Patrick's piece of shit, Patrick's a lump Patrick can go fuck himself. We're pretty way past you're ready. We're past you. We're going to get into all of that deeper now that we, we're going to talk about everything we're about to get into in the rest of this episode. I hope you all enjoy place. And remember, it is our opinions and we're having fun here, but there's some facts in there. Yes, sure. Yeah, here's side stories. Right. I'm your place. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Court is in session. Dun, done. Is that the long order noise? Can we, can we get that? Dun, done. I can get it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's also just the Windows 95, this is just like the long order, the same thing. Yeah. Long order, special, special school victims unit. SPU. Oh, yeah. That's it. Welcome to side stories. We're back in court. That's right. That's right. Yes, that's right. We are rolling out justice on today's update, today's an update episode about the various trials going on at night are going to be judge, jury, and executioner. That's right. Executioner. Please. Yes, because we are going to, what was it, death by Malmau, death by Malmau? You remember that? Oh, street joke. No, I don't know that one. The idea where they get the guy that gets like the three guys go and they, I forget the whole setup, but they end up on the island with a bunch of cannibals and they say, hey, you want like. death by, you know, we can kill you quick or you can get death by Malmau. It's death by Malmau. I believe it's getting crushed to the death by big butts. - That sounds nice. - Welcome to Side Stories. - You got that joke, Dad. - I know what's going on here. I'm really good at this. - This is what we lost with our father's died. - Yes, and we got that joke. - Another thing gone. Another, I can't ask him how to complete that racist street joke and God, I wish I could. I know he isn't heaven. - All my, all my Moisha Diane references are running slow. - Running slow. - But here, welcome to Side Stories. I'm sitting with the illustrious Ed Larson. - My breasts are big. - He, they are. But you are not as big as you were. - We've photoproofed that given to us recently. - When I saw that picture and I realized how big of a chunk you were, but now you're looking great. - I'm looking fine. - Yeah. - I put weight back on. - No, you look good. I like it like this. - I need, I could lose 10. - Yeah, we all could. - I would love 10 off. - Yeah, I wish I could chop off your feet too, but we can't, all right? - My feet weigh way more than 10 pounds. - Who knows? - We'll find out when we get to it. But I'm sitting here in his brosky. I got all my parts. And I think if you just cut little parts off of me, it wouldn't even make that much of a difference. - No. - Because I'm all Ted. - They'll just grow back. - I'm all Ted's. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - And speaking of all Ted's, today's episode is, we've decided because there's so many different concurrent trials and not yet done trials and trials and never were. - Maybe trials that might happen. - Who knows? They were all happened. They're all updates connected to stories that we have been covering here at SideSource. And some of them really haven't. - Yeah. - So we wanted to give both a trial update and also a trial presentation because one of my favorite things in the world to do - You've been watching hard footage. - I can't believe how much intention span I have when it comes to court. - That's weird. I can sit and watch whole days at court. - Yet I've never known you to go on jury duty. - Why would I ever? I lie, I lie, I say stuff. But I'm like, I killed bitches for fun. - That's the good first thing I say. Let me kill a bitch. Let me kill a bitch. Just to like, but I don't mean it, guys. - Yeah. - I don't mean it, guys. - No, he's just trying to get out of this. - At a civic duty. - Yeah, I hate my civic duty. I hate civics. - Yeah. - You know, that's one of my main pet peeves. - Yeah, Honda Civic. - No, honestly, they're great for running past security barriers into national buildings. - Yeah. - They're really, thank you. It's a satire. - That's a trial satire, but sat tires. - Well, yeah. - They do run over several congressmen. Those are sat tires, they use. - Yes, but they get, yeah, 'cause-- - Do you see someone's living at Mitch McConnell? Different senators living at Mitch McConnell's house? - Oh, what? Is it, I don't even wanna, let's just not even, don't derail me immediately. - Someone came to his house to try to get footage of Mitch McConnell in a different senator showed up. He's like, I live here. - Yeah, sir, yeah, no, yeah. What do you mean? Who's Mitch McConnell? - Mitch McConnell rents out his guest house to another senator. - Mitch McConnell is sand in the jar right now. All right, let's just get you, all right, let's get some trials. I can't do this. All right, so number one, the number one trial on my mind, 'cause I'm watching this. All day long, I watched the entire, I watched the husband's entire testimony and cross examination, I watched the therapist, I watched the nurse practitioner, I watched all of these very since I am in it, I'm a juror, I'm ready to make a decision. - Yeah. - Lindsay Clancy, so the Lindsay Clancy trial, has currently been going on for two weeks. Now, I know I'm gonna get some people angry. - All right. - Just talking about the subject of this trial. I just learned about her today. I've kept her out of my brain, 'cause we haven't talked about her on the show, and I knew it was a big undertaking. So, let me say what I think I know, and then maybe you could correct me. - Love it. - All right, so she is a woman who says she suffer from postpartum, killed three of her children by strangling them with exercise bands, and then slithered her wrist and jumped out of window, and now she's paralyzed. - Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. (all laughing) - No problem. - All right, okay. - I like the juicy story. - It is an extremely juicy story. - That's a juicy story. - Yeah, so this, I was hoping we were gonna talk about Clancy Brown. - No, no, no. He hasn't killed his children yet, but hey, please, think about us, Clancy Brown. All right, if you would. - Bye, from North Korea. - So, this story is, it's extremely complicated. So, yes, Lindsey Clancy murdered her three children with exercise bands. She then attempted suicide by slitting her wrists and her throat, and jumping out of a second story building. This all happened in January of 2023. And this trial though, is not about her guilt. So, we already know, and she is already admitted that it is true. - Yeah. - She killed the kids. She tried to commit suicide. She's now paralyzed from the chest down. - There's no way to, like, really know. Yeah, one kid was five, another one was three, and another one was eight months old. - Yeah, absolutely. - And, you know, they, even just them fighting together was hard to get her away. You know what I mean? Three ninjas can't work. - Yeah, you know, the baby wasn't a good head to the trench coat. - Thank you, Eddie. So, this is, we, then they said we'd have a hard time finding humor in this story. So, this guy, so this all came up. This story though, is about how culpable was she? So, right now, her husband, former husband, Patrick Clancy, he is in the middle of suing the hospital, the psychiatrist Jennifer Tufts. Everybody else is kind of involved around this. - He's not suing this ex-wife? - No, because he's forgiven his ex-wife. He is coming out and saying, I believe that her, essentially mental illness, her postpartum depression, was so extreme that it could explain what she did, and it goes on. And now, they are searching for compensation. There's a civil trial that is happening. I believe it's gonna happen right after this, in which the husband is coming right after the entire establishment. And they're trying to figure out, is was she too mentally ill to know that what she was doing was right or wrong? And was she so in the throws of postpartum depression that she, and did the state fail her? Did the medical community fail her? Did her doctors fail her? Did her hospital fail her? - But lots of people get postpartum depression. - Postpartum depression. - If you and I know what it is, then lots of people get it. - They do get it. And there's many levels of postpartum depression. Well, makes this really difficult trial, is because like one of the big contentious parts of this is there was some planning involved. There was the, she sent Patrick Clancy to a fast food restaurant far away, right? - Okay. - And the night that they murdered, she could have sent to a slow food restaurant close. Oh my God, if he had sent him down a fucking like old, 'cause they're great places, like slowies. - Yeah, yes, look. - I've never been to Mount Sludges. Food that takes nine hours. I love Mount Sludges. But she sent them away, there's a little bit talk of that, in that time period, right? 'Cause they reached a fever pitch in her mind. And that did she send him far away to make an opportunity, or did she take the opportunity to kill them when he was so far away? - There's a lot of conjecture in talking about, was she given the right and wrong drugs? Did she take the right drugs? Was she over-medicated? Was she under-medicated? Where were the doctors? Why, how did this happen? - I just Googled 15% of women, apparently, get postpartum depression. - Yes, but there is a distinct difference, which I think a part of what this trial's about, between postpartum depression and postpartum psychosis. They are two separate things, but also can happen at the same time. - Okay. - So postpartum depression is honest, it is more common than we think. Anakin can create tremendous changes in behavior immediately after birth. Same to Anakin, happen after the second baby, it can happen after, and you don't mean like, it doesn't have to just happen with one, but often if it happens once, it's gonna happen again. We know that Lindsey Clancy had issues with the first baby. She did have symptoms of postpartum depression. - She just wouldn't latch? - It just, would you mean the mother wouldn't? - Yeah, no, the baby wouldn't latch. - Yeah, but that's, that's very simple though. It looks like it into the breastweeds. - All right. - I know we all want to talk about who's latchin' and who's not. (laughing) - All right, I wish we could. I wish this whole talk could be about latchin'. - A latchkey child, is that what that is? - That's just one that sucks on pieces of metal. (laughing) That's one that is obviously eating soon to be tattooed with the Iron Man. So anybody's seen that film, it is extremely upset. So, they are, the prosecution is really interesting 'cause the prosecution is saying, they're bringing all these witnesses in to actually vouch for her character, saying that Lindsey Clancy was an extremely tentative mom. She was a marathon runner, she was a nurse. She was, she had all of this, they should go on. To basically say, look, so the prosecution's like, she's really nice. - Well, yes, so that they could say, she either hid her system symptoms knowingly or did not, like she had a plan, like yes, she was sick, but she wasn't so sick that she wouldn't know that there's a problem she needs to hide, and then she made a plan to kill the children. - Okay. - Right, so that's like one side of it. So they're post, like look, she was this happy, healthy person who had no other main, quote unquote, main issues. And this is the issue, so now the defense attorney, a guy by the name of Kevin Reddington, His job is to basically be like, no, she's a crook. Crazy psychotic bitch, and nobody did anything about it. Like, the idea is to put it all back on the state, which is why they have been going hard at all the her staff, like all the, like the psychiatrist, the nurse practitioner, and just the hospital itself. - Okay, but isn't insanity like the hardest thing to play? - It's extremely difficult. But this was different because we have series of notes, 'cause she did go to therapy. I feel like, so this is gonna go to therapy. You'll go to therapy. - I just, I don't feel any sympathy for her. - Well, this is, this is interesting because this is where your head's gonna get in trouble. And because of its sense is that mom talk is hardcore, trying to support Lindsey Clancy and say post-parted impression is real, and it's far worse than anybody wants to talk about. - I know it's bad, and I know it's real, but so many people go through it, and they don't fucking kill three kids. - See, this is a, it is interesting because I was watching Louis Thoreau spent time at a post-partum depression clinic, right? And one of the things, so one of them keeps coming up in this trial, according to Dr. Jennifer Tutz, Tufts, her psychiatrist, who looks like she's 14 years old, right? So this, I feel like one of the major issues is that Jennifer Tutz looks like a child. She was, Lindsey Clancy was one of her first jobs. - Okay. - Coming out of psychiatrist school, right? - That's not a good first one. It is a hard, for, I like, that's a part, I actually have a lot of empathy for the psychiatrist, because it do feel like a lot was placed at this, an inexperienced person's feet. - Why is it? - Then would they not give it to a more experienced person? - Because this is the United States government, Eddie. This is the hospitals. There is a massive problem. Like, the defense is not incorrect. - Mental health in this country is a fucking personal. - Massive fucking problem. - Yeah. - Because the stuff that's coming up, it's just, let me, let me kind of try to parse it. - I'm sorry, I got so many questions. - No, please. - So Lindsey Clancy, understood that there was an issue, was afraid about going back to work. That was like kind of a built up. Paranoid, she was having paranoid thoughts. She was believing that the kids weren't going to properly learn how to live on a bottle, right? That when she go to work, that they like starved the death, and that she started having really crazy, impulsive thoughts. You're just, this is all just stuff that is, she was sick. She was very mentally ill. She was extremely mentally ill. But then this is the issue. So she goes to Jennifer Tufts, her brand new psychiatrist, her husband, who is largely the most checked out human being. If he could have sent a hologram to court, he would have, right? He's so fucking checked out that he's the way he's talking about her concerns leading to all of this stuff. Is she saying stuff like, I think I might have had some, I might have some impulsive, like, you know, intrusive thoughts about hurting the kids. And he just kind of thought what he's taught in all of these various things, is he just have to ask her, do you have a plan to kill yourself for the kids, and does that distress you? And every time he asked those questions, he said, no. And he said, I guess we're good then. You gotta ask that more than once. You don't leave anyone alone with the children. I watched all of the footage. She goes out for the fast food. You stay home. Well, this is the problem. She, by this point, she was fucking cuckoo for co-cuckoo bucks, right? If she is completely insane, then he should be held accountable. Well, this is a, there's a lot of people talking about this. So lots of people failed her, not just the hospital. She goes to the hospital. So now she is kind of like, okay, I'm having an issue. She was given Prozac while she was in nursing school once. She was just getting her with all the boilerplate stuff, asking all these questions. And Keith Reddington is hammering this psychiatrist saying, well, why didn't you flesh all this stuff out? But the psychiatrist only has a certain amount of tools that they could do. They have to ask you, do you have suicidal thoughts? Do you have homicidal thoughts, right? And then you, it's on you to say yes or no. And so every time Lindsey Clancy would show up, and so they talk about how there's a mood, which is what the psychiatrist talked about, which is what she tells you. So she asks Lindsey Clancy, how are you doing? And she says, fine, but then there's a thing called affect, which is the psychiatrist is looking at you and is being a judgey brick. Yes. But for reasons, right? They're looking at you and seeing, what's your, what are you like, though? How are you dressed? How are you talking? What's your energy like? What's all this stuff? And so she began to notice more and more that her affect was all over the place. But she kept saying that she was fine. She kept saying she didn't fucking want to kill anybody. She didn't want to kill the kids. Yeah. Meanwhile, her lipstick's on her nose. Yes. And so she goes and they keep putting her, they, they try very conservative medications on her. They give her a little bit of Zooloft, a little bit of this. And in the beginning, she talks, I feel like a lot of what the defense is kind of working on is the jury not understanding how some of these medications work, because the big issue here is like, oh, she was on all these medications, but she was on a lot of medications that it takes weeks and months to work. And she kind of dibble dabble with each one. Yeah. And so none of them ever caught holes. None of them worked. And then she also would go to various other places, like she went from, she was talking to the psychiatrist, but then she kind of stopped talking to the psychiatrist to go talk to another prenatal care center who gave her another series of pills. She started taking that stuff, came back to the psychiatrist. And you're looking at an extremely inexperienced psychiatrist that doesn't know what to do. And she keeps saying the problem is because they're all like, because the defense attorney's hitting her. Why didn't you follow up? Why didn't do this? And she's like, because that's not what we do, you know what I mean? That's not what we do. We don't. That's how it works next week. Yes. Well, it's also how many times have we just talked about this with just our general health care? Like you have to go and get the appointments. You have to do the follow up testing. It was sadly the whole thing was pushed to Lindsey Clancy's lap to say, well, Lindsey Clancy should have been the one to be more husband. Yes, more open about her symptoms, more, more searching for answers in terms of like calling out. And there's a lot of people saying, oh, she tried, she tried, she tried. This is really the crux of the entire case, which is what do you believe? Like my, my problem is that I know that health care is fucked, yeah, especially when it comes to mental health. Of course. There's nowhere for these people to go. Yeah. I agree. But the issue too is is that even though that is in the case, that is the case. So this is the system when currently we are in. She can't be let out. Well, no, she's not going anywhere. It's really about is she going to go to a mental hospital for the rest of her life or is she going to go to jail? Oh, well, who cares? But I, it's not either none of's good. Neither one is good. Yeah. But this isn't as long as she ain't out and about. I guess she's crippled now, so she can't really do anything. No. You have to get close for her to bite you. Yeah. Yeah. But this is, I really think that all of us being said, when I had watched that Louis, Louis Thoreau post-partum depression, I thought it was interesting that there was one young lady he was following who was like really pleasant and she was just like the sweetest, loveliest lady. And she had like supervised visits with her baby inside of this post-partum depression place. And they were like, he's like, I don't really understand what your problem is. And she's like, well, I just keep trying to kill myself and I can't control when I kill myself, when I want to. And he's like, that's crazy because I'm talking to you and she's fine. She's like, yeah, it's a, it's like a thing. I don't, you know, I literally don't understand this because I'm nice, doesn't mean I'm not trying to kill myself. Well, I'm just filled with despair. And so then what happens is like in the very documentary, you're talking to this woman and I felt the same way. I was like, oh, she seems fine. And then in the documentary, she breaks out that day and attempt suicide. Okay. So it's this thing where you're seeing, I can see how there was no obvious symptoms that the person is changing the way they appear to the health, to all of the health professionals because it's really hard to say, I want to kill my, all right, I'm thinking about killing my kids because guess what they do? Take the kids away. And guess what? Patrick Clancy was also probably urging her to do. Keep that down though. Yep. And not saying, hey, because Patrick Clancy, what he do, immediately divorced her after the thing, got remarried with the whole new family. He gets, Patrick Clancy's getting living always a stepfather. Patrick Clancy's never wanted to have a single bad thing happen to him in his life. Yeah. And he was never given the lesson that that's kind of what life includes. He seems like the most irresponsible person in the story to me. I hate Patrick Clancy. Yeah. After watching his, after watching his testimony, I fucking, I do feel like the person who failed her the most is him. That is my, that's his job as a take care of his fucking wife and his kid. But also it, the, the, them also main issue here is how did someone fall in love with this fucking guy? It's just because you, everybody just tell them girls just won't come. Yeah. Just want to get that come and have the come secured and the babies inside you guys for a living. He's in tech sales. He's in tech sales. So some people just want that fucking, that guy that'll come hard enough to get it inside you. And they don't care. They don't really care. Lindsey, these are not like passionate people, I guess, but Lindsey Clancy was, vaguely, was truly a loving mother and a high functioning member of society. And she went down a hole of extreme mental illness. And it really is hard because no one's like. Yeah. I think that no matter what the case is, she's crazy. Well, yes. She killed three kids. Yes. That doesn't make you not crazy. But should the health, the mental health community should it be on them? That's the question. That's the question. The question is, it's a psychiatrist supposed to see through stuff and then break the rules of modern mental health side that we have in the United States of America that sucks, but they would have to break the rules and go way out of their way, especially if they are a, sadly, not a private practice psychiatrist like this, like she was. Yeah. You're legitimately got how many clients? I hate to be this, this insensitive, but if one of your clients kills three children, I don't think you should be a psychiatrist anymore. Well, that's what they're trying to do to her. Well, get a new job. I don't know what to tell you. I don't think you're going to be good anymore. See, my problem is, is that I really do, I do have, I feel bad for her. I have empathy for every single human being in this process, because they were all trying to quote unquote do their jobs, but it is, they are hamstrung by the industry themselves. Yeah. But they're also, it's hard. Like, how do you, like, are you legally culpable for giving a hundred and fifteen percent? I don't know. If it's just a private industry where nobody gives a fucking shit and there's no, uh, nobody cares about bedside manner. If there's, they don't care about keeping people coming to the hospital. They just don't care, right? Like, I have, I just quit my doctor. I didn't get a brand new doctor because I'm, which I hated, my fucking doctor. And I'm a completely fine with the guy that's good, like lives, you know, like, just whatever I don't have necessarily any major health concerns. And I still couldn't reach my fucking doctor. And I was sick about them, not giving a fucking shit about my existence. So I totally get it. It's just like, is this the moment that's going to change the entire mental health industry? I doubt it. No, not at all. We couldn't even change it with my shootings. Yes. So I don't think that, I think that postpartum depression and postpartum psychosis are both things that are extremely misunderstood. Yeah. Cause we don't fucking take the time to examine women or care about their health concerns. Cause this is, and this is the major, that's the societal issue here. So I do understand the people that are like, no, Lindsey Clancy was sick. And she needed to have been taken care of. I do understand that. But my main issue is that it'd be different. If she just, I'm, and I'm just super cruel. This is my fucking opinion. If she had just killed herself. It'd be very different to me. And I feel like, you know what? We've talked about it before. It's half a joke. But I mean it. Leave. Well, Lindsey Clancy was extremely mentally ill. Yeah. She was very sick. She's the fucking San Francisco. But if you're so sick, did you can't see the edges of your sickness or can't understand? Like that's my only, again, my, my issue would be as a juror is like, she knew well enough to lie. Yeah. She knew well enough to tell everybody that she was having this sometimes, but she didn't know what to do. Here's the problem. If she gets away with this, not to get it, no one's getting away. No, if she goes to mental hospital instead of prison, which I could be convinced that she belongs in a mental hospital, not prison. Also, I think it's, uh, I don't think it is a very dangerous precedent. But you see, I, it depends because it really depends because if it can lead towards understanding postpartum depression and postpartum psychosis more, that would be super important because I guess this is an extreme situation. Like, think about that. Like, think about the fact that about Casey Anthony. Well, Casey Anthony, Casey Anthony covered upper crime. Casey Anthony had no, she had no, his or, Kaylee was six. One of her kids was five, but he was the newest baby is what turned the postpartum depression happened hardcore on the third baby. And she already had a history of dealing with the last, the second baby. So the third baby really was the thing that like started it all off. You really want to change shit? You put her in a mental hospital and you lock up the husband. I mean, that's how you change shit. Well, I think now it's, it's interesting. You're starting to lock up parents who get their kids guns and they go shoot up places. I, you know, he should have been in there. It's his job as the fucking husband. It's just, it's just fascinating. She was seen by so many people and there were so many people saying that no one could recognize her psychosis symptoms. And it's just, I guess my site stories, LPL, gmail.com. My opinion is how the fuck are we supposed to know if you're feeling and thinking these things, if you're not articulating it. If she, but she had to articulate it to him. She, well, she said every single thing she said was downplaying it because she did not want to blow everything up because, and I'll actually put even more on Patrick Clancy. It's because, oh boy, I couldn't handle anything. Yeah. And so he just wanted it to be over. He wanted it to be over. He wanted her to just either shut up about it or kill herself so that the situation would be over. And then he could have his precious trophy children because it's the only thing that matters to these men is the children as property, as lineage. That's all they give a shit about. So in my mind, he was just happy to get some brand new kids and a new quote unquote problem-free wife so that he's never had to deal with it again. And now maybe he can get some money from the psych college. He can get some money from the hospitals. Well, him, so and everybody is fucking fucked up. Oh, yeah, I think so. It is really, it really is. I think that the, this is kind of why I'm a little, I am a little bit harder to jump on the Lindsay Clancy boat because I think that the money grab at the hospital and the psychiatrist is a bit much. I do see that maybe taking the license away from the psychiatrist though. I can see that could happen. I don't see why not. I feel bad for her because I feel like I feel bad for her, but she's got to be emotionally destroyed after one of her patients killed three children. Oh, yeah, she's all fucked up, but that doesn't mean technically she has the profession and the connections to maybe help herself get over it. But also I'd say she just might not want this. If this is your first case out to get, I'll tell you what, if that's my psychiatrist and I hear about her being that person, I'm out. No, yeah, I'm out. Me too. No, I'm telling you, but I will, I just feel like the way that the defense is coming at the subject, I really don't like it. I don't like, well, they want her to get the death penalty. Well, no, the no, the defense wants, where did this happen? This happened in Massachusetts. But I just, there's a part of me that like the way the defense is coming down hard on psychiatry is also a thing I don't really like. He's like, making fun of telehealth and port like appointments. He's like saying all this stuff is like, there's like a little thing there, which is like, no, some people, that's how they can see anybody as a telehealth appointment. That's like, that's like the bare minimum. That's how Lindsey Clancy was even seeing anybody. That's how I see my therapist. But I just, I mean, like in terms of like, we can't just say, oh, it's close to the bed. Like, that's not the issue. The issue literally, his calls aren't the issue. It is women's health. Yeah. It is capital W capital age women's health is the massive, massive systemic issue on top of this whole fucking thing for all of time. Yeah, it doesn't really matter because we got a fucking, a fucking leather purse in charge of the, who's the secretary of health who fucking shakes like a Chihuahua and it's perfect seamless dookies. And he couldn't give a fuck because he honestly, I think RFK'd kill every woman he could. The, the other thing that's interesting is I heard that they're trying to like say that her suicide attempt wasn't legitimate. That's a whole, that's to me the meanest angle that the prosecution is taking. And I don't think that that's necessarily true because with their trying to show was that she was a nurse. And if they're calling the slices on her nurse. Yeah. So they were saying the cuts on her arms and her neck were too superficial to have been serious. But I also feel like that's, that's like a whole, I feel like that's when we're getting into, if I was a juror, I'd be like, let's not concentrate on this. I think that any person that kills their three children is crazy unless, of course, those children are possessed by demons. Yes. And they have to be killed. And even if this woman, Lindsey Clancy, is possessed by demons, which aren't real, I think that she should still be locked away forever. What if your children defect to the Chinese? They give them. Is that a war? Let them have? No, that's war. No, they can have the Chinese. Can take the kids. You think you want, you just give them up to the Chinese. You want to let them not have them? I, you know, someone in my family adopted two Chinese girls. I love that. And I love them, but they didn't defect. No, we, you know, if you're, if you're adult children defected North Korea, you wouldn't want to fight them? Nah, if I had an 18 year old son, they found that he was going to go join the North Korean army. I'd be like, you got to get through me first son. Really? Yes, son. We got a fight right here. I wrapped myself in an American flag. I'd be like, you're, oh, son, you want to go to fight for North Korea? You got to fight your fucking father first. He's 18. I know, but he's still, I mean, he's on. I put him on the surface. I take out. Oh, one of those. Yep. Well, that's what Clancy did. Clancy's the bad guy here. I mean, you know, I think that's my opinion. Honestly, I think the childbirth is the enemy. Yeah, I mean, I've no one. It's like my main issue. And what I love is about two childless, childless men on this is that the best part is not having kids. That's to me, my favorite part of this story is that I don't have kids. Every story we're telling here, I think is like, yeah, maybe don't have kids. (laughing) - Except maybe, like as they'll turn into Brian Cobrager? - Yeah, exactly. - So Brian Cobrager, we'll talk about this. Let's get into this slightly. We've never talked about Brian Cobrager. - It was like too big of a story and it was too confusing and now it's just like aggravating. - For a long time, please, again, so for Lindsay Clancy, side stories, [email protected], I'd love to hear your opinions on this. Know that we're just in it. I'm just here, listening, I'm open. I'm open because I'll send her to a mental asylum any day, I love to. - Yeah. - I'll drive her. - Right from Norway. - So Brian Cobrager is the next story, right? So this, we never covered this because number one, Brian Cobrager is a thin-faced pale fuck-ass piece of shit that as far as I'm concerned, it doesn't exist. He's a ghost and he's gonna go away into a concrete square and we're never gonna hear from this waste of space ever again. - He definitely looks like Patrick Bateman style like psychopath. - Oh, he is a guy. Anybody that looks up to 10 Bundy is a fucking moron. - Yeah, right. - And he's chilling with, oh, our boy. Oh, Valo, Mr. Valo. - Oh, Chad, dolly, him Chad Debel. - Chad Debel, yeah. - So what happens, Brian Cobrager on November 13th, 2022, he murdered four people, Moscow, Moscow Idaho, which was, if you're four young ladies, - Three young ladies. - Was it in one and one dude? - Oh, was dude. All right, so these guys were, it's a very fucked up story. Four victims, Madison Mogen, Kaley Goncalves, Zana Cernodal and her boyfriend Ethan Chapin. He seemed to have been stalking the house, ready to go. He had a whole, like he was dressed all in black. He had a specific knife for it. And he broke into the house in the night. He killed the two upstairs people. One of the kids downstairs heard it all. They thought it was them and their boyfriend. - And they told them the dog. - Yeah, all this kind of shit. All this kind of confusion. We don't know. Then he left the middle of the night. They woke up in the next morning 'cause they had been partying all night. They woke up, just assumed everybody was just in their rooms and they weren't found to like the middle of the morning. And it was his horrific scene. Now, Brian Coburger did plead guilty. So he went through, there was three years of prep. Which is why we've never talked about this. Because the details were largely wrapped up. There's a new Netflix documentary that I didn't finish. - Yeah, I haven't watched it yet. - But I will, I have to finish it. But the Brian Coburger story to me is kind of up and down. The reason why we're even talking about it is that he's trying to rescind his guilty plea. Now, one thing that Brian Coburger did during all of this time period was really act like a top fucking great showed, right? He's a little Dennis Raider, BTK, in love with himself, thinks that he's the most evil man in the world and wants attention. And I think what happened was that he realized that when he got rid of the trial because the trial was very much gonna get him, there was a bunch of evidence that it would still never come out. We know that there was a specific sheath to a knife. - They never found the knife, right? - They never found the knife, but they found the sheath that he used. We know that that was all connected to him. They connected the car to him. There was, but apparently the car was slightly off too, right? There's something like that. - There was like, 'cause it was a white Hyundai, but it was a good different year. - Yes. - The problem with Brian Coburger is that he was getting a doctorate in criminology. So he really was, he would know how to get away with it. - He was trying to get, he was doing his best to get away with it. And he really had planned for quite a bit. And so as the trial was gonna kick off, they were like, you know, he's such a piece of, first they were trying to say that he was too autistic to go to trial. - No, he said he was too autistic, but then they were like, he's fine. - Yeah, no, no, no. - He's fine. - This is the same thing as last time. There's plenty of autistic people in the world. - Yeah. - Yeah, it only could quarter of them to murder. - Like a fourth of the people who work at this network. - Yeah, I think a lot of people here are. Now it took almost three years. That was for the trial to kick off. And then they eventually said they gave them an offer because they were gonna, it's a death penalty state. - Yes. - So they were like, we'll take the death penalty off if you just plead. - Firing squad, I think. - Yeah, which would be fun. A one in. And so the families weren't happy because they really wanted some real gold fashion justice. I don't think they understand truly how bad Jal is. - I mean, prison. And for somebody like Brian Copperger, it will be extremely bad for him. - Oh yeah, you killed three girls. - Oh, everybody's got, can't wait to fucking test him. - Yeah, like even the Nazis hate him. - Yeah, they can't, well, he'd join the Nazis. - You'd have to. - If I was him, he didn't have a choice. - If I was him, straight to the white power guys. He'd be like, hey guys, hey, what's up? That's 420. It won't let me be Muslim. Oh, hi guys, I can't be trans-race yet. Soon, but yeah, so they gave it to, he finally just said, but now he's trying to withdraw his plea. So they're trying to redo the whole trial. - He's saying he was the cops coerced him. - What are you saying? - Full of shit, he just does, he just wants attention. He, I mean, the Netflix documentary came out and then he did this. - Yes, it's 'cause he wants, he wants to be in spotlight. He wants a trial, he, there's now mad that he didn't do the trial and he wants a trial. The families are actually pro all of this because they want him to get the death penalty. - Yeah. - But I don't think they understand that there's all these other like parameters it has to hit. - They're gonna have to go there every day for a fucking year. - I think that this is all gonna go anywhere and he's just gonna sit in jail. I doubt that they're gonna redo all of this. I truly, I even know how you can rescind it. - You've said it. - I mean, he's said it. - I don't know how you rescind it. I don't know how you go back. I don't know how you like, I don't know how that worked. Side stories [email protected]. I just think that he's a fucking piece of shit but if did you watch the victim statements? - No. - One of the truly. - Oh, the sister. - Yeah, the sister reading Brian Cobrager to Filth. - Yeah. - Is truly one of the best true crime moments I've ever seen 'cause it's finally like someone of the younger generation actually saying what they think about serial killers and kind of what we've been saying about serial killers for so long, like calling basically your pussy. - Yeah. - That couldn't do anything. - 'Cause you killed them in their sleep. - And you needed to kill three women that were smaller than you in your sleep 'cause you couldn't handle them. - Yeah. - And she brought up his failed attempts to be a rapper. - Yeah. - Which is, I feel it gets number three now. - Serious killers, former rappers. - Yeah. - I think that attempting rapping is one of the, is how do I feel about having an ability to rap? - I feel like you're born being able to rap. - Yeah. - I feel like there are guys that are just born being able to rap with gays and ladies. Gays and ladies, born being able to rap. And there's no school that you're gonna go to that's gonna make you be able to rap. There's no, I don't think there's any lesson I can't rap, but I could do a pun. Well, that's different. - That's wordplay. - Yeah, wordplay I can do. Could you try to do a free style for everybody? - Well, what's my topic? - Brian Cobrager. - Brian Cobrager. Yeah, what's going on? My name is Brian Cobrager. I like to have lettuce on my cheeseburger. - Man. - No beat. I didn't have a beat. - Yeah, that's bad. - I didn't kill nobody. - No, I didn't kill anybody. He's innocent. - He's innocent. - I didn't even try to be a rapper. You put that on there. - No, I can't even imagine, like, I try to be a rapper and everything turns into sort of like a stilted, hold down for a child's play. - Yeah, beats, beats. I got the beats coming, grab my beats. They're red, you peel them, you dip them, you cook them, you make them cool again and you put them on the cell. - When I rap, I do it right. You're gonna see it's quite a sight. When I'm rapping, everybody is dancing. You better get yourself to prancing out my way because you got an ugly face. You better be careful 'cause I'm gonna put a fist in there. - You did better than I did. - For a while. Yeah. (laughing) Back to the trial. - Back to the trial. - Thank you. (laughing) But yeah, so Cobrager, I mean, he's just gonna be in prison forever. - Yeah, I doubt that anything is gonna happen with this. They're not gonna kill him in prison. They're just gonna keep this the way it is and he's fucked. - I think he's gonna get beat to fucking death. - You think so? - Not neither, you know what it is? Truly if he doesn't join a white power group, the main issue is his attitude. - Yeah. - I think that guys in prison from what I've seen from all the prison material I watch, like I watch a lot of prison material, I watch a lot of like, you know what I'm saying? Big Herk, I watch a lot of like prison interviews. - I like us. - Yeah, I mean, that's, but I like the real guys. I like the real men. And when I watch them, they don't like guys like Brian Cobrager. Brian Cobrager seems to be a really good, 'cause it's not even about, I'm not even talking about like gross jail rape. I'm talking about like, calling it, what do you call pulling your card? - Yeah. - They pull your card, they ask you what you do. And then the thing is, is that sometimes what will happen, especially if you're new, you gotta either fight your way in, right? You gotta fight the biggest guy there. You gotta, I guess that'll do that, right? They ask that they got a bunch of lingo that you do and you don't understand. And all of a sudden you're in there and you gotta deal with it and everybody's got something going on. And Brian Cobrager's gonna need protection. And so the problem is the first guy he's gonna jump to who's gonna be like, "I got you, man. "I'm not protects you, man." Which I would always go. And that guy's gonna do something weird to him and then he's gonna be like, oh fuck what do I do? And then they're gonna be like me brother. I'm with I got you. I got you Oh, yeah, yeah, then he's fucking dead and then he's gonna join the white power movement and eventually from within there Someone will kill him from within there. Yeah. That's my view. I think it's good theory. Yeah, you know, speaking of hip-hop The two-park trials he that's right key fee D's gonna go down Key fee D's going I can't believe that that's fucking happening. Yeah, shook night at the almost in the same breath said I don't want any part of this and then immediate was like there's other people involved. It's not just key fee D But it's like he's like immediately was like I'm not being I'm not getting dragged in prison I ain't doing this and then he called TMZ He's like listen, just you got to know Key fee D's a little bit of trouble So it's gonna have to come and help me out of it so keep it easy little trouble. So Dwayne, key fee D Davis I mean he is in court right now. They're trying to put two-park Shakurs 1996 assassination on him. Well, he's talked about nothing but all of his various connections to it How happy he was that he did it. He was the one that did it. He said he was in the car He said that he gave the gun to the people who shot two-pock He said that he would have shot two-pock if he was on the other side of the car But when you all don't know it wasn't the other guy the better shot and so that guy shot two-pock would y'all Don't know as a key VD was in character. Yeah, okay key fee D is just a character key VD plays. All right, my real name is Keith That's me. It's Dwayne actually. It's me Dwayne You can't be mad at me. You can't be mad at Dwayne Dwayne doesn't know what key VD does sometimes key VD. He's out of pocket. Yeah me Dwayne Ha, I'm just in the back seat with my fingers crossed. I hope that. Oh, we pose us into a safe little place But every time key VD's got the wheel we end up in trouble again So key VD is the main witness against himself because he admitted to doing it or like About it 12 podcasts. He put it in a bunch of podcasts and he put it in a book Yeah, and he claims that the podcast don't mean anything and then there was a ghost writer for the book I do believe there was a ghost writer for the book I don't think that key VD pulled up to a little coffee shop. I got his latte I'm just sat and he was just like I just love to be You know when I write my book Brooklyn is just another character and LA is just another it's just the soup we're all in and just see him with his sweater Like he's got the like the big like calf man on and he's sitting there just going like It was the rapiest of days. It was the crappiest of days I remember in Tupac and shook night apparently beat up key VD's friends In Vegas right before the shooting and this was retaliation, but it turns out everyone else who was in the car with key VD is dead Yes, oh, he's the last one. He's the last one him and shug are the only people still alive this whole scenario from the whole Yes, yeah, so it's so crazy and then shug who's also in prison for murder Currently probably not going to get out for a very long time is trying to release his own book and has pushed the release of his own book Back is put a shug night's book Shoes not true. Your pain is my joy Is the name of that's the name of his fucking book. Yeah, your pain is my joy. Yeah, he's pushed back to September because he wants to see What shakes down with this trial that's before he finishes his book. Why would he name it that's hilarious It should have been like the shug night story. Why I'm fine. Hey, how are you? How I ran death row and escaped it. How am I writing this book? Well done. The shug night story. Yeah, remember when he said he was blind Because yeah, he hit the guy who was like I couldn't see I couldn't see Yes, and he's unfortunate also I could say shug night tried to run me off the road personally Yeah, I see him as a vehicular murderer why I think that he had a hard time seeing I think that was the problem. You should have got glasses and you know what I blame this toxic max Skillinity and I think that that's why shug night refused to get glasses. Are you ready for this? Yeah, shug night Probably a CT Fascinating played for him he played for the Arizona Cardinals. Yeah, I could see that that makes total sense. Yeah, he's a violent impulsive I'll actually call him bad dude. Yeah, yeah, straight gangster straight up. Yeah, you think he'd like us No, I bet him he did not care for me. Hmm actually seems like you know what I'd take it back He was actually kind of nice and that was more aggravating. Yeah. Well, I was terrified. Oh, you should be yeah I called him mr. Night and everything I would call him mr. Night. I'd be calling. I'd call him what I'd call him sir You don't call him shug. That's a joke. We didn't earn that. Hey there, mr. Shugs. Yeah, no, he was hanging out with cat waves at the comedy store Mmm, not a friendly a table Hey there boys I bet you do huh? Alright, I'm out with me out of my bowling. You want me to go bowling with me and my family? That's short for sugar, isn't it? He's really cute. Is that short for sugar? I bet you got a little sugar in your tank, right? That means you're having a good time, right? I'm sorry. You know most black men get diabetes at your age, but they're your age So you're in Could I chase your urine like Patrice on the news like girlfriend dead? Do you see that? Do you know Patrice on Neil? Excuse me. Do you know Brian Gumball? Hey, excuse me. Do you know Barack Obama? I bet he knows Brian Gumball. Yeah, sure. Yeah, Brian Gumball fucking stab you in the throat Deformed. Uh, he's also a musician who's facing prison. We talked about him. The deads for him are He is currently on trial. Um, turns out that he had knocked up Celeste when she was 13 and she got an abortion. Yeah, it's an abortion. Yeah, so uh, it was an abortion to fall of it And then she was murdered a year later most likely by him because he um, she was found in his car His trial is going to start very soon and I don't really gonna get I'm not gonna get into the weeds of it until the trials over Because I think a lot of people are already following the trial I think it's going to be pretty quick. Yeah, he's going to be arraigned on August 31st. Yeah, I'm feeling it's going to be pretty quick Deformed is really small. Yeah, that is one of the weirdest things So when you see all these footage of him now you start to realize like he really is like a kid. Well, he murdered one. Yep So there's that now Deformed is going to be singing thought of supper and gel You know, he could put out we need a concert though if Deformed puts out a prison concert from prison. Yeah, how awesome is that? I mean, no one's done it in a long time. That would be kind of as anyone ever done it along the blue brothers was false and prison Like was that recorded there? Well, it was recorded there, but he wasn't a prisoner. Yes, Manson put out a prison album. He did Oh, man to forget it to you. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, it's in a pile you gave me Uh, before of it, I think that could really do it here. I feel like if he wanted to use the power of song This would be the time. Yeah, so um, but he's fucked Do you think he's gonna get death penalty? We think no, no, thanks. Oh, no, it's California Well, I think they were talking about it. There is like a loophole in California where you can get the death penalty No, I think they're just gonna to be honest. I don't I wonder if he'll even get to trial. Yeah, he could play out Yeah, I very well play out. I think he's just gonna have to take life in prison. Yeah, he's gonna go all he's gonna go jail There's nothing there's no way they're hooking him up with anything. I don't know if they because they really Did not they don't like him. No one does no one likes him. He's music's bad. I have we haven't even heard from his parents No, no, no, they are disappointed and isn't that worse than being angry. Yeah That's how I feel I would that's a kind of why I've never murdered Yeah, cuz they didn't want to embarrass my mom Well another uh another one of he'd one of his neighbors is back in the news as well. Nick Reiner. Oh, that's right. A Nick Reiner Who it's like literally hanging out with the forfeit. Yeah, there are they're like in the same old cells and shit They're like right next to each other Is indicted on new charges and special circumstances. This just happened today We recording this last week, of course He is pled not guilty to counts as special circumstance ledges the multiple murders and the murder By means of lying in wait after a grand jury indictment was unsealed I can't think he's not gonna get his inheritance if we have heard anything about the inheritance thing or no Well, he was the thing is his lawyers are trying to get it he Alan Jackson Quit being his lawyer. Yep. The famous attorney Alan Jackson quit him the money. Yeah, he didn't have the money So Alan Jackson's out and now he has a currently has a public defender But he was supposed to get his 1.5 million dollars two years ago According to the paperwork that the Reiner said filled out for him and he is not currently guilty So why bet you they didn't give him that money because he was already Because he was doing drugs and he was erratic and he was a fucking Psychopath. Yeah, there's no follow-up stories from the June thing with him demanding that inheritance Yeah, I don't think he got it. Yeah, I don't think no, but he's still trying to get it It is that that is happening and also His aunt has been visiting him in prison rob Reiner's sister keeps going there And then the then the siblings the nieces and nephew His brother and sister are very mad at the end families weird. Yeah, family is really weird because I could do see in one aspect you're like There's like a whole like weird Christian impulse that I just don't understand. Like the idea that like you know, but it feels like it's just it's you know, it's something comes in the same place. It's just their idea of like like you got to keep them in the family because he's family, right? Like there's something about like at least family. And it's like like your brother, I just I'm one of those where as soon as you kill one of us, especially more like even just, I'll give you, I'll throw you a bone, even if you just rape one of us. I cut my ass out for being a bitch. Yeah, I feel that I'm not gonna, I'm not going to forgive you. Unless we hated her together, unless Rob Wright, they hated Rob Reiner, I hate that bitch. Yeah. And that bitch like that bitch, don't miss Rob Reiner. She can suck my fucking dick. Yeah, I mean, it's weird that she's visiting him in prison, but I guess it's not enough to really go after her. No, no, no, it's it's family and it's complicated. And some people feel the need and there's like a whole else. You know how many times you've been around, even if you've been around somebody that's like has to be almost like better than everybody else to just lord it over everybody. So the aunt, I could see the aunt definitely be like, well, I visited Nick, none of you visited Nick. Yeah, because none of you on pathetic enough, not as empathetic as me, because I feel like they're all like, well, someone's got to visit him. So I know that someone has to because he's a family, that's a family member. Oh, we killed the director of Princess Bride, good. Good, I hated the Princess Bride. I thought it was half, I will stand by him. Love that Nick Reiner took out the horrible director of the president, was the American president? A few good men. A few good men? I think he did a American president too, you're right. You fucking traitor the American people. If I could kill him again, I would. He turned down Jack. And when he turned down Jack, that's how I knew he had a death sentence. I mean, this kid is fucked. You know, fuck Nick Reiner. Fuck Nick Reiner, for sure, or fuck Nick Reiner. Man, his dad even made a movie with him. He even like went out and tried so hard with him. He's like, he's like, it's an awful movie, I tried watching him. Yeah, fuck Nick Reiner. Fuck you, Nick Reiner. Fuck you, fuck you, you piece of shit. I hope you fucking rotten prison, you fucking piece of shit. So that's what's going on with him. Yeah, sorry. And sorry about that. I just, no, you're right. Get angry. I agree with you. Certain things that you can get angry at. I'm angry with him, then Lindsay Clancy. 'Cause, you know, those kids didn't make any movies. (laughs) Did he keep that around to cut that? To cut that? Yeah, well, you know, it's that tired. They know it comes down to us. Those kids would have made terrible movies. They would have used their eye or whatever. (laughs) No, I got to cut it. Go on. Fuck you. Fuck you. (laughs) Very well, I think we did it, Eddie. Oh yeah. And Luigi's trying to get out of it too. Luigi's got, you know? He's going for it. Of all the people that we need to talk about, Luigi's fine. Okay, Luigi's got plenty of money. I feel like he's the only one that has a chance to get out of this. Oh, very much so. 'Cause of how badly they fucked everything up. Oh, so the guy from. The guy who shot Charlie Kirk's got a shot too. Oh, that's right. We need to cover Tyler. Yeah, he's got a shot to maybe get out too. Yeah. Well, you got one shot. (laughs) The. (laughs) Hey man. Don't fire me. No! Shot! (laughs) But now we're having fun here. It's a satire program. Well, what the main thing is is he's going to do federal trial before the state trial. And if he somehow wins the federal trial, the state can try him on double. 'Cause of double jeopardy. Double jeopardy. Like that movie with those guys. Yeah. Who's it? Lawrence Fishburn, Morgan Freeman. Double jeopardy's with Ashley Judd. Mm. And Athlete Judd and Tommy Lee Jones. Interesting. I was way off. Yeah, if I remember that. That was great. Yeah, we were. Yeah, we were. Yeah, we were. Yeah, we were. Yeah, we were. We played JFK. You know what, this is one of those movies I was working at Hollywood video. Yeah, I don't think I ever watched it. But I do remember seeing the cover a bunch. This is a specific time period of movies. That's why I was confused. 'Cause it's got the same cover as "Kiss the Girl." And high crimes. And every other Ashley Judd movie from 1997 to 2000. Yeah. Ashley Judd did a bunch of these movies in which he had the same poster. And they're all highly mediocre. Luigi kind of looks like Ashley Judd. We got Anne. (laughs) That means it's over. Patreon.com/lastpodguestal. What's he's that horny? He's gonna put a lady's faces on Luigi Manjani. It's time to stop. Okay. Luigi. Go watch us on Netflix. Tho-men over Luigi over there. That's right. That's where you can see champ. You can go see champ on Netflix. Yeah. And go to patreon.com. You can pay to listen to us for ad freeze to ways. And then you can go and see last stream on the left live every Tuesday. 5VNPST. You can also get movie stories on video. Over there. That's off of your fucking well earned dollar. Your well earned dollar. 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We're gonna be back to the Matilda Community Center on October 24th. And I got a bunch of other shows. Just go to editunes.com for all those tickets, or last podcast in 11th. If you want to get the side stories tickets, this is it. It is our trial update. Hit us with the law and order thing. Where's the singer? I wasn't ready. I'm waiting for it. It's coming. It's coming. It's coming. Here it is. Yes! Now I can come. Goodbye, everybody. Just so you know, stay out of trouble, OK? Yeah. Hail Sam Waterson. Hail Satan. Hail Defense Attorneys. You're gonna need him.