"Shivery Delicious" (w/ Nicole Kidman)

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Why is that? Because 10 years ago this week, we started this podcast. That's crazy. It feels silly to me. 10 years. Well, I mean, we're not helping with this whole like 2016 nostalgia thing going on right now. Yeah, there is a lot of that. I mean, I was going to ask like, where were you 10 years ago? But now we literally can't say we were in our friends Alex Ramsey's apartment with a mattress in the window to keep out the sound. That was our that was our sound proofing at the time. And we are now 10 years later sitting here with our guests. Look at that. Look at God. And I got to say look at God because she's with us in the room. She's here. I don't know that we could have looked a better guest for our 10 year anniversary. A podcast about pop culture. You think that the 10 years going to happen. We probably should get a full blow in pop culture icon in here. Yeah. I did my thing of like, I'm going to watch a project. I'm going to go back and revisit the classics. It's the sort of decision paralysis thing that happens with I think our guests where I'm sure she's used to this by now where everyone's like, I loved you and then like they must like sort of short circuit and then like, what did you pick? So I picked, I was very happy with to die for and the others, which I, and then I watched the criterion collection feature ret where there's something I want to ask you. She mentioned something that I want to ask her about, which is that she almost quit because she was like, I can't do this. This is a woman who is awful to her children, not a spoiler alert, but you know what I mean? Well, well, it's the others. If you've seen the others, if you know, you know, I went for something old, something new, I went for final two episodes of Big Little Eyes, perfect. She's one perfect. And I went for eyes wide shut, which I had never seen. And boy, are there questions as a result of this list of projects, but there are approximately a million roles that our guest has been incredible in. Indegradable. As an actress, as a producer, I mean, fashion icon, et cetera. Arguably best performances, the Chanel number five commercial. Oh. Which, yes, this is a podcast that's going to bring it up. Absolutely. Our 10 year anniversary special and our guest is the one that only Nicole Kirman. It was so hard to stay quiet through that. You stayed very stoward. You were very good. You see me. You take direction. I was like, yeah, you told me to shut up. But then when we said Chanel number five commercial, you did jump up. Oh, bads just texted me. Did he? Literally. Telepathically picking something up. Just talking about it. We were just talking because my badsy, my badsy. We love badsy. Wonderful. What's his name for me is dear one. Dear one. Dear one. Isn't that a lovely name? That is. Has that been for? Always. Do you want to be getting? Dear one. Dear one. Yeah. So elegant. Same number of syllables as Nicole. But sure. But somehow, dear one is nicer. Dear one. I can say he has a nickname for me because I met him at an event. And his nickname for me is I kid you not. You bitch. Oh, you bitch. Because it's how he thinks he's going to book the podcast. He wants to come on the podcast. He's got to have him on. Of course he does. Of course we do. We're just nagging him. Dear one. He is a bell because he sent me the loveliest email after Ariana Grande and I did this Mulan Rouge sketch. And you guys. No, no. It was kind of the best thing. Best outcome possible was to be able to be in conversation with him. Anyway, he's with it. I mean, all you want to do is be the center of his universe. So when you drop from that spot, it's very painful. Oh, yeah. Oh, when you're in his orbit, it's something else. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I have to say, I think Mulan Rouge was like, we asked that question a lot. What was the culture that made you say culture was for you? And Mulan Rouge came out in 2000. So it was just around the time when we were starting to be like, I'm going to watch a movie that my parents don't know. I'm going to watch. And my mother was to you, the trailer for Mulan Rouge and she would say, that looks racy. That looks very racy. And I was like, I went into fifth grade. I told my teacher, my mom says Mulan Rouge looks racy. And she was like, well, you know, it might be a little racy. Well, it's sort of about what it's about. But then you watch it. What it's about, yeah. I'm going to record a song. Yeah, it looks about a quarter. A quarter is an end consumption. That's right. And that consumption. Racy topics. The greatest consumption death put on. Sell your lawyer, I think. I was up around it. I was up around it. Okay. And even people on the team are like, like, just the consumption of it all. And then I get carried though in feathers, pink feathers. Come on. Yes. And a trapeze in sequence with men underneath me with 12 hats. Pretty good. Bad ass. Bad ass. And then I get to die and be held by you and McGregor singing to me. And then, but I also get to get carried in pink feathers. Right. Pink feathers seem to be. Oh, that's really lovely. A lot of people have felt this there. Yeah. It was just so exquisite. And also like the soundtrack that was birthed from Mulan Rouge. I think that that doesn't get enough respect to put on its name because all bangers on that soundtrack. Yeah. Well, he's just a music whiz. Yeah. And so I mean, Baz is classically built in terms of all his knowledge and the way in which he's been trained. And then he talk about culture and pop culture. Then he's able to enter the zeitgeist though, but he's got all his education and classical training, kind of the best of the best. I don't. He's a fountain. Well, we want to talk about that. I'm not going to talk about that. I'm going to type out to you because they throw someone at me and I'll answer. I'm a cool kid, man. How about that? Because I feel like I'm not me. I'm boring. Come on. The reason why I think the reason why you've had this incredibly illustrious career is because random career. It's all so random. But random in the best way. Like I love that we never know where we're going to get from you. It is random. Scarpet and March 11th on prime today. Today. I think it's all a binge. I know you're not meant to binge things, but binge. Yeah, it's a binger. I think this is a binger. Yeah. If you like binging love, I like binging. Me too. It comes, you know, it's not healthy, but I love it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Just watch it. Okay. Watch it and watch it and watch it and watch it and done. Perfect couple. I've been Netflix made that easy. Right. Okay. Well, hopefully this makes it easy. Jamie Lee and I. Jamie Lee, Ariana, Bobby, kind of. Oh, yeah. And he just, he is, um, Kremlin, Della Krem. And then Simon Baker. I've been watching them for years about the kind of, I think. You and everyone else. Well, he was famously, he holds a place in gay culture because he was Will's boyfriend on Will and Grace. Yes. Yes. He was like the tough talkie. No, I think he was a firefighter. Right? He was, he was boy, yeah. Yeah. He's not aged at all. No, right. Uh-uh. Like some people, some people have it. Rose Bren is very lucky. Oh, she's the best. We were watching clips of her and Kristen Wigg going back and forth in an outtake, real and bridesmaids right before you walked in. I was just talking about that. That is my daughter and I. We watch bridesmaids when we're feeling down. Whenever we need a lift, we watch it. We recite it. We act it out and we do that in the kitchen. that is how go to saving, that's how save your film. - It's the best. - That's how save your film. Yeah, to pull us out of a funk. Of course. There's an under-appreciated, it's a new vocal stem for me, which is a Rose Bird line in that, which is after the Toast off. Rose Bird goes, "Jesert White is out." [laughter] Dude, I'm talking about, it's such a funny little like, "Jert White is out." [laughter] There's also, we were blown away by the patronizing way she looks at Kristen Wigg whenever she's trying to say an accomplishment of hers just like the wide open looking. [laughter] Wow. You train right? [laughter] Get the hook. Get the hook. Exactly. Perfect. Oh, but I just, okay. Yeah. I was going to pay you the compliment and then I was going to transition into you. I'll take it back. No. No. Yeah, get the hook. Do you get this? Do people say that you don't, do you receive a compliment while? I'm trying to. I'm trying to. It's not an Australian attribute like we always have to, yeah. Humility is very important, but also it's just hard to take compliments because the last The next thing you want is to be seen as beheaded, right? - Right, right, of course. - You have to always come in under. - But I'm learning to take the strokes. - Yeah. - 'Cause it feels good. - I mean, you're so cleared. - You're too much for it. - Give me something, give me a point! - Give me a problem. (laughs) - We do this too much, some might say, as we spawn too much, which we'll keep to a minimum. But I think the reason why, because you're talking about bars being so plugged into the culture, I feel like, you have that same sense too of just knowing when something is a worthwhile, not even worthwhile, is just a risk period, right? I feel like this randomness that you're talking about is just risk. And you-- - It's curiosity. - It's desire. - It's desire. It's always just being willing to try things and jump off the cliff. That would be the way in which I approach things. But I wanna have fun. I grew up in a family that had a slight Bohemian quality to it, so but it was a very intellectual family. So I was taken to see all sorts of theater and opera and art I was raised on culture. And my mother loved fashion. My grandmother could sew and knit and embroider. And they play piano and spoke French and all those things that you go, "Oh, okay, teach me." But they were socially conscious and sort of just an interesting group of people to have been born into. Yeah. And to be launched into the world by-- - So things that were fascinating were around you. - There weren't boundaries. - Yeah. - They were. - Right. - In terms of sometimes my mother would have a strict moral code and then at other times a billion, huh? (laughing) But there was a huge-- there wasn't a lot of judgment. The barriers were taken away and you could express all sorts of thoughts and ideas in terms of philosophy or secret. And some of my greatest moments were called up in my mom's bed, sort of us both sharing human, just humaneness and ideas. And I nursed her through cancer. And so I saw all of that. I saw her losing her hair. I saw a 50-year marriage in the way that unfurled was it went along with truth and honesty. Kind of interesting, right? And she gave me insight into what it was to be, just to be alive. - Yeah. - And I could ask her anything and my dad as well. So that's a really good basis to start life from, right? - 100%. (laughing) - But I'm just thinking-- - Sorry to get serious. - No, no, thank you. - Thank you. - It is, it is funny. But literally, like sometimes I watch your movies and I think when she got to script for this, like there's no way to really see it. Like Mulan Rouge, for example, like the whole first half hour of Mulan Rouge, it moves so fast and it is so crazy. Like the scene where you're changing under the, under the tent with Jim Broadbent and you're sort of like trying on your different personas and stuff, it's gotta be impossible to see. But I guess then for you, that's just like thinking and trusting of the director. 'Cause I feel like that drives you a lot, right? - Director. - And because he and Catherine Martin, C.M., the two of them, they had a beautiful big house that they would create in and that's what we would rehearse and there was very much about him and quality to the way they create their art. And so when you're brought into that, you spend six weeks workshopping. But prior to that, I'd done a photoshoot for Vogue with them and I'd seen their work growing up in Australia and watched them morph into who they were. And they were just like these crazy talented, I mean, Baz was an actor. And a really good actor. - Yeah, I bet. - He's a film called Winter of Our Dreams with Judy Davis. And he's fantastic in it. He plays a junkie. - Oh wow. - Yeah, so there's a tip for you. - Yeah. - Go find that. - Winter, what is it? - Winter of Our Dreams. - With Judy Davis, one of the greatest. - The one with the best. - Oh my God. - Yeah. - So yeah. And then C.M. and Baz went to Nida, which is our National Institute of Dramatic Arts. - Yes. - So. - I'm getting this Bohemian sort of, no, no, no, there's a Bohemian element here to the way that you were raised. And I think also I'm just gonna pick up on the opera piece. - Opera. - Because I think that I'm gonna have those two healacies come together in terms of it describing the Nicole Kidman of, which is it's operatic, but it is also so artfully diverse for lack of a better term. Because it's like, I think in you talking about the others, it's like, you were like, this is Medea. This is classic Greek, Euripides, but it's also, it's this operatic kind of thing. But I think that applies to a lot of your roles. - Yeah. I think what opera gives you is it gives you pathos and it gives you big emotion. And because I was taken to the opera all the time, and I would sit there with my dad and my mom, and we would cry. I mean, my mother would explain 'cause she could speak Italian, she could speak French, so she would explain the stories. And the stories, I mean, they're fantastic. In the same way that Shakespeare, the Greeks, and I grew up reading Russian literature, I was obsessed with the Russians. - Really? - Yes. - How did you come to be obsessed with that? - Because I had one of those lists of the hundred books you're meant to read. - Oh, okay, yeah. - But I started on Dostoevsky, and then I went, oh, hold on. And then I just kept going on Dostoevsky, and then I moved over to Tolstoy, and then before you know it, I'm obsessed with the Russians. - Yeah. - I went to St. Petersburg, actually, and saw all of the places that Tolstoy had built Warren Peace around and pointed out with, you know, Prince Andre, all of it, and I was like, what? - Yeah. - So that was kind of the beginning of my artistic basis, the Russians. And then I moved over into the Brontese. - Of course. - Which give you the yearning? - Yes, the story does. - I'm on a more. - I'm living on the wars, and I can't have nights. - Yes, and I loved it. I loved it. And, but I've read "Wuthering Heights" six times. - Right, huh? - And I love teeth cliff. - Yeah. - So I just, you know, and that state of yearning that the Brontese existed in, that probably was my state as a teenager, and probably continues on now. It's one of the most underrated states of being. - yearning. - I would agree. Because it is so painful, like when you're in it, but then you can only be in it first. Tell me if you think this is true. Like, I'll never yearn like I did when I was like 15 to 25. Like, and you don't realize that you're not gonna feel that feeling as intensely anymore. - Oh, I feel it. - Really? - I still do. - Yeah, I'm gonna study yearning now. - You are? - And it can be towards anything or anyone. Okay. - But it keeps you alive. - Mmm. - Caves you moving forward. - Okay, I got a yearning again. - Come on. - Yeah, yeah. - Let's bring back the yearning. - I know. I'm trying to feel like, I guess I was specifically thinking about it in terms of like, like, romantic desire. - Oh yeah. - You know what I'm saying? - Yeah. - Especially being closet. - The kids, the kids, the kids, the kids, the kids, me. - The kids, the kids, me. - Yeah. - Yeah, the tingles. - I know. - Come on. Bring on the tingles. - The other fight of it all. - She very delicious. I had a line once in this film called Floating, just remember the description of being shivery delicious. - Shivery delicious. - Oh yeah. - That's really good. - Shivery delicious is title of that. - Title of that. - That's actually the title of this episode. - Shivery delicious. - It's become, and I couldn't think of anything better. - Truly. Do you have like a favorite line of dialogue you've said? - I have, I mean, I've worked with the greatest writers. - You truly have. - I think the hours gave me, yeah. When David Hare wrote, just, just exquisite dialogue, inspired by Virginia Woolf from Michael Cunningham and then directed by Stephen D'Aldry. But that screenplay was just beautiful and to be able to do it justice. - Yeah. - That monologue, in the hours. At the train station. Oh yeah. That was like to, and we rigorously worked that. And I have to call out the prices of Stephen Delane in that because that's so much what acting is. Yeah. There's two of you in that scene. Yeah. He loves her. Does he wants to take her and save her in a way from herself. But she says, no, it's the right of every human being to choose. I get to choose my destiny. I get to choose. And I really believe in that. Will you direct? Because you speak like a director. I do. Yeah. Because I feel like you're like really working in like the, obviously, this is not my greatest actress. But like, but what I'm saying is like, you, I think, would be an actor's dream as a director because no one understands it better than you. Well, I, I've always, I mean, you never say never to anything because whenever I do that, that's, that's a disaster. And then you go, Oh, okay, well, I changed my mind. Yeah. I'm trying not to do my prerogative. But I love being an actor. Yeah. I actually love being in the hands of a great director and a great writer. And I love being there to contribute, but to lead it, that's very difficult. That's decision making. That is, unfaltering in your vision. Whereas I see all, always. So I need, okay, this is what we're doing. This is where we're going. Probably. You want to be amenable to all kinds of outcomes. I'm interested. Yeah. I'm, I'm just interested. That's beautiful. Yeah. And so I hope I always say interested. I love asking questions more than having questions asked. Yeah. Almost 30 years together, four kids and some of reality TV's most unforgettable moments. We now with thinker to about living life out loud. We're taking you behind the scenes in our new podcast between us with me, Heather DeBro. And me, Terry DeBro. But Tween us isn't about perfect lighting or curated Instagram grids. It's the unfiltered behind closed doors conversations you wish you could eavesdrop on. Equal parts, smart, funny, and a little bit scandalous. Every week, Heather will bring you an unapologetic take on the headlines, the trends, and the cultural moments everyone's texting about. 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To hear these in more, listen to Keebe Pazza Sweety on the iHeart Radio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. So I have a question then. Just because I have to tell you again, just looping back to those things that you remember from from pivotal moments in your life, I think that every, every queer person, our age, probably remembers walking into a blockbuster and which was the video rental store where you can spend rent VHSs and walking over to the Batman aisle and seeing Dr. Chase Meridian on the cover of the Batman Forever VHS. A veil of hair. The Veronica Lake hair. I found out something about myself seeing that picture of you on there. I was like, I need to know everything and I rented it again and again and again and I watched it and that movie I have to say and Batman and Robin. Camp Cluster. Undereated camp classics, masterpieces. Yeah, Joe Shumaka. Yeah, Joe Shumaka. Yeah, we created her together that hair, everything and he was like, here she is, his Dr. Chase. Yeah. Yeah. And he probably felt the same way we did walking into the blockbuster when you were telling me. It's my whole thing was I'm not pretty enough to come on. Don't really. I really felt when I was doing that that I was not pretty enough. What was the idea? What were you trying to, what were you trying to say? Veronica Lake. That I mean also just that sort of the dream, the dream blonde, right? And I did not feel like that. I've never felt like that. But that's the beauty of acting is you can pretend, create, become. So yeah, which is what we love. Yeah, you can put on a wig. You can suddenly put on red lipstick and you can dress differently and put heels on and suddenly you are kind of you would love to be. And then it all comes off again and you're back. But it's so great being able to step into that. I mean, the same was so many different characters. But a lot of people also cite the Chanel number five commercial. So they always say to me, it was. I'll never. When did I wait? Into the stream. I must have been the only person in the world who didn't know who she was. I'm telling you. No, it was on repeat. It's my favorite movie. The Chanel number five commercial was starring you and Roger. You go send to her. Directed by Buzz Lerman. He is my favorite film. Come on. And that pink dress. Oh, everything about it. Running down the street. That's that's the dreams. And that's CM too. And they can just create that. That's why the pink feathers, the pink dress. I'm a downster. I love to find out. Okay. Okay. It's too much for you. It is the best. And it was. It's like, I'm. But no one had ever done that sort of film. I remember Carl Lagerfeld being like, I love this. He gave the thumbs up to it, which was a huge thing for Carl, who was just like, she'd personified, right? Of course. And it was like, okay, but they spent an enormous amount of money on that. Yeah. You can't have been cheap. They didn't go cheap. But why go cheap when you don't have to, and you can create something iconic like that? We remember it. Some clothes. I'm so glad they didn't skimp. No, I love like a big-ass commercial that at the last second you find out is about something that had nothing to do with it. It's perfect. It's like you don't like, it's how it should be. Because at that point, it's like, you're not being duped into buying something. You're just in the world. You already bought it. You've already bought it because you're in the world of the thing. Yeah. But can I ask on the acting, no, on this love of acting, I was watching this feature, this feature at on the others for the criteria in collection, which was, it entered that a couple of years ago. But you were saying that you almost said no. No, I said yes and then I said no. But that you also said that this is your usual process. You kind of said that this is something that happens not a lot, but it's- I try not to do it now because it's incredibly frustrating and irritating for people. But for the line producer. For everybody. Like what? But forget other people. It's like, because I think you were acknowledging it as part of your process, right? Like, oh, for anything that is kind of maybe scaring you a little bit, like that is part of how you approach it. Like you're saying you don't do it anymore now. But like what- No, I still do it. I just do it less. You know what? Great, great. Yeah, you know what? You're the first step to healing is the awareness. Perfect. I'm on the road. You're on the road. Can you tell the But do you understand that now is a thing of like this is just something about going through it? Well that particularly was, I was making Moulin Rouge when I agreed to do it. So I was Satine when I read Grace, which is, you know, the others, the character and the others. So I had not delved psychologically into her because I'd accepted in a different state of being. That being said. I then arrived over there and I'm like, oh my God, I've got to now start prepping this woman who kills her children. Yes. No, I don't want to do this. Right. I'm like, I don't want to do this. I do not want to kill the children. So then you go back to, is it killing the children or is it saving the children? So as soon as I could shift into, oh, I'm saving the children, even though that is so insane. It was, it was choosing to save them from terrible pain. Then I could motivate into the role. Right. Does that make sense? It makes sense. And was that something you found with Alejandro? Or is that something that you. And with the acting coach I work with and the way in which my whole, just my nervous system and the way in which I approach something, I have to feel it. If I don't feel it, I'm going to be faking it and then I'm no good. So I have to somehow find this weird state of being that keeps it real even though I'm still existing in life with my feet on the ground. But I've got to be. You're being your stomach scared. You get. It comes from. It comes from. It's still a body work. Yeah. Yeah. It can be a motion or in your body. Yeah. So where do you find them? Yeah. That's really. I guess that's a really good thing to remember too, is if your body is telling your brain something, that probably means more than you know. Well, you know, a lot of times you'll go, especially with trauma and stuff. Where do you feel it in your body? And so it's a really great way to approach a character. Where do you feel them in your body? Yeah, that's interesting. Yeah. Is it here? Is it in the chest? What happens? Is it in the gut? Is it in the groin? Is it in where is it? Yeah. And let's start from there. I sound kind of crazy. No. No. But you don't at all. I feel like that is sort of an answer to my question of like, what would compel you to say yes to certain scripts? Because for example, something like destroyer or like the paper boy. It's like, you'd read these things and be like, huh? But then the, the, huh of it sort of is a guttural instinct. And so it's not, oh, I don't feel comfortable with that. So I'm going to say, I know what it's, I feel uncomfortable with that. Let me listen to that. And try to bless saying the paper boy. I mean, that was just, she's all like, she's ex. She's wild. She's all body. She's all like, she's, you know, and I wanted to go and we were shooting down there in, in Louisiana, in the heat. Truly. And it's swampy noir. And that's kind of great to go and do something with Lee Daniels, do swampy noir. And Zach F. Not bad. Dancing in the rain. Yeah. And sitting out in front of the prism with my feet up on the dashboard. And it's just kind of like, yeah, she's, she's a cat. She's wild. And then you get to be wild wild. Wild. And Louisiana swans. Yeah. They always say live a normal life. And then in your imaginary life, you can do whatever you want. Yeah. That's the coolest. That's the coolest thing. Part of your normal. So I'm very normal. Yes. Well, part of your normal life was going to Antarctica. Yeah. We connected here. We're connected. I believe we just missed each other. We just missed each other. We were on the same. So everyone Nicole and I were on the same vessel, but at different times. Mm-hmm. So you went before me and people on the ship people. The first of all, can we just shout out the loveliest crew on the silver sea. My gosh, right. The loveliest, loveliest people. Yeah. And it just felt like this wonderful, like our boat was-- Tell me your story. OK. Had you end up in Antarctica? Who were you with? And why did you go? OK. And then I would love to hear your version of Squat of course, obviously. I just got back yesterday. Yes, yesterday. Yesterday, because-- Yes, so it's all so present. I woke up this morning still feeling this sway of the Drake passage. My brain is still used to like being rocked by the current. So-- By the big currents. By the big currents. So my mom-- And the smell of penguins. And the smell of penguin shit. Eee. That's not the most eluring smell. It breaks the majesty of penguins. The penguins are divine. Gentoo penguins. Gentoo chins trap. Oh, we love them. We love them. Just not their die rear. They're-- They're excretion. You hate it. And what makes you so confident in the die rear? Did you get a hiking on die rear island? Could I call it? What a question. I was like, I'm going to just stay down here. I don't need to see those chicks. Those penguins. Who was calling a die rear island? Nicole, but-- And our whole family. Yeah. Yeah, because it was die rear. I saw no ice. Yeah. Just die rear. I have to say. Oh, you mean that? That stomachs must not have been upset. No, no, they were upset. He didn't bring this up. Well, no, because-- No, but this is just a sidebar. And Tidekuri's gorgeous. No, we don't have to go. No, we don't have to make this the main bar. This is-- Diaria Island is the topic of the rest of the episode. I'm going to never get a fucking die rear island. I already was never going to go to Antarctica. It's, I don't think it's for me. This is a small little section where there was a few penguins that had ups its stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But beyond that, those are the guys. They're molting. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's, there's, there's, there's just in a moment of just like a letting it all go. Get in shock. Did I set it? I'm hooked on it. I just, just, just to hear, just to be asked by you, had you go hiking on die rear island? And die rear island. Die rear island. But back to the glorious, glorious, that kind of thing. Back to the glorious. The sea lions and the kayak can't live without sea lions. We kayak. Is that not the greatest thing in the world? It was, I was the silence. The silence. Oh, that's interesting. Yeah, must be the most, no, it is spectacular there. Truly untouched. Wow. And the silence is unrivaled. I mean, there is, you hear nothing. Yeah. And the most piece that you, I mean, it truly is. And I meditated on the kayak for like five minutes and just went, I think this is the happiest I've ever been. Now is that because of the quiet? I think it's just everything that surrounds you there. And there, it's timeless. And then you're aware of the fragility of everything. Yeah. Wow. Wow. Looking out and it's like, this is untouched, uncorrupted by man. And you realize how much of our surroundings and how much of our interactions and how much of our psychic being is ruined by man. Yeah. I mean, it feels like you're the most in touch with nature as you ever have been. I felt that exact way in kayaking. The seals were abundant. We saw a glacier sort of crumble before our eyes and people were like, oh, I think that's normal. I think that's all the same. It's a sound. It's a thunderous sound. It's crazy. Yeah. No, but we, so we had to go to Punta, arenas. Yes. Been there and we were held for three days. They were about to call the weather. Because of the weather. So they had to, we were like, so if they, if they pushed your trip back by three days, they canceled the entire cruise. So we were on day three. It was just, it was like Groundhog's Day and like printer rain. It's this lovely Chilean town. So nice. So nice. Yeah. So warm, so friendly. So friendly. Great food. Great coffee. Great coffee. Great sea bass. Anyway. And now I'm coming around. And we're coming around. Did you not want to go? I really didn't. It was going to be my, I don't think so. You got to go. I always said you got to go. You got to go. With people that are very, very like the cruise we went on, so for cities, you have to clean everything. I mean, they are so ecologically minded. You have to be so careful. Yes. Because you can't take any of our viruses or bacteria or anything into that continent. Yes. You can't even, you can't even let you kneel. Like they won't let you crouch down. Like they have to want everything. Oh, yeah, it's very regimented. Yes. Very, very sterile and clean. Yeah. Yeah. And you're like, "I'm going to go to a certain place." I mean, we'll just thank you for that. I mean, we'll just thank you for that. And we'll just thank you for that. I loved it. Good sign. No, it was great. Yes, you didn't want to go, but you went. No, I didn't want to go. I was genuinely excited. Just say yes, I'm a good sign. I'm a good sign. Yes, I'm a good sign. It's confidence now, right? Yes, I'm on six. You haven't done seven. I haven't done seven. So I was stolen that when I held up the-- Which continent of you not done? I am dying to go to Africa. Right. And you're still having time to go. I need Africa and Antarctica. Yes. And in Africa was--oh, but this is just to say that we--so then really, I'll be lost through days, but we're on the ship. This is great. And then I had to fly back in time to do the actor awards, but then they kept pushing the dates out of King--because did you fly in or did you cross-strike passage? We flew in. So we-- So we--you can do that. Yeah, we heard about this. King George Island. Crazy. Yeah. So they wouldn't clear us to fly for three days. So then we got the other--the flip side of it on the way back, which is we're sailing through the Pacific, the Pacific, the heart-fist waters. Oh, yes, that would happen. If you don't--if you can't fly out, you do have to cross-- You do have to cross the path. I did not know that. I didn't do my full research. No. And so when they broke the news to us, the room erupted in equal, cheers, and groans of agony. Yeah. We were about this, because we had it. We were held for an extra day. Yes. And so we had this tears of joy and tears of, I've got to get back. I've got a job to do. I'm going to lose my job. We got to get off this boat. So how did you and the daughters--how did you guys react to that to being held in that place? I was happy. Okay. And now you're a cruise person, you said on that. And then I was like, but I got to get off. Yeah. There comes a point. I can do one day, maybe two days, but no, I've got to get back. So I think you and I are the same. But I'm a cruise person now, yeah. Are you really? Yeah. Yeah. And you have two more plans. Oh, yeah. With silver sea? No. Okay. One with silver sea. Great. They're lovely. And one with reds, Colton. Oh, fine. And the amount of silver. I'm trying to move. Yeah. I'm ready. I'm ready. But my daughter's, because there's only two of them, they're like, we want our family. So my sister has six kids. They have partners. They all--oh. So I bring everyone. And then my best friend since I was four, all her children and their partner. It's just we have a big tribe that we travel with. And we're all like--and then Katie, who's here, is like my sister. So we have like this huge tribe of people. And there's two women that work with me, who've worked with me for years, who are also like my sisters. So it's like, come on, we got-- Let's go. Yeah. And I also love-- I grew up in a family where we travel in big groups. And we would do things in big groups. So it's very comforting to me. Yeah. So if I'm in the position to be able to share and do it, I'm doing it. Of course. I will work so hard so I can play hard. Yeah. And also it's like we were talking before the episode started about like why you'd re-watch something you've already seen or do something. For me, it's often like I want to watch other people experience this thing. You know what I mean? Like sometimes I don't know what that is. But it's like, maybe there's something to it for you and wanting everyone to be together. It's like we're going to have an experience together. And I really do enjoy the-- I don't know what that would be called, but that sort of like transference that happens with someone else is having a moment of awe and wonder. Or whatever the emotion is, you might be able to anticipate it yourself. But that's like-- that's a thing. It's a thing. It's a thing. It's why I love throwing parties. And you're a party girl. Giving gifts. Yeah. I love doing that. Yeah. I'm a party girl. Yeah. What did I say? I said once to somebody and my kids were making fun of me. Oh, I love small dinner parties, but I also love a rave. Yeah. And they're like, does not go together, mom. And I'm like, it's true that it does. Yeah. How do you feel? Do people still come up to you and bring up basement as sort of a cultural, like touch dough now in a post-baby girl society? Yeah. Baby girl hit, we thought it was going to be, speak to older women primarily. It hit a younger generation and gay men in a way that I had no idea what happened. Oh, the milk was huge. Milk is back now because of it. I had a glass of milk at dinner the other day. Good. Yeah. I just locked out of my wainer. No, I literally-- But it was fascinating. It was fascinating. Uh-huh. What people related to in that film. We thought it was a very, very, very niche thing. Yeah. And it actually kind of-- it moved-- it had tentacles that spread wide. And then in the same way that big little lies reached sort of a particular group of people, baby girl did. Yeah. I love that. Yeah. Because it's unexpected to me. Of course. Yeah. As you can see, I loved dancing in baby girl down there in that basement. Oh, so good. And we started and I came out of that with COVID and the flu. A double whammy. That's where it goes down. That's where it went down. And how did it come back that you just ran all the tests? I got so sick and I knew going in. I was like, oh yeah. I'm going down here. I can just feel it. It's the middle of winter and it's running rampant right now. So oh well. Baby girl, baby girl, it down. Baby girl dropped. Baby girl dropped down to hurt on all fours. She fell on all fours. Yeah, not even on all fours. Flat on my back. There we go. I mean, okay, we're getting-- No, now we're cooking. Almost 30 years together, four kids and some of reality TV's most unforgettable moments, we now with thinker two about living life out loud. We're taking you behind the scenes in our new podcast between us, with me Heather Dubrow. And me, Terry Dubrow, between us isn't about perfect lighting or curated Instagram grids. Equal parts, smart, funny and a little bit scandalous. Together, we'll tell the stories, spill the secrets, and share the hacks that keep life marriage and everything in between feeling fresh and fun. 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I would look at the clothes and fashion and my mom would say, look at that and look how it's made and look at. So, from Audrey Hepburn to Grace Kelly to all the different houses, Javon Shea, all of them, that's what culturally for me made me dream. Wow, fashion. I grew up loving it. I somehow stumbled into being exposed to it, standing there. with Galeano fitting dresses on me and Laga fell fitting dresses on me and being on the cover of Vogue and having access to the most beautiful things to wear on your body. When did that start? It was little because I was I would stand on a table and my grandmother would make all my clothes but not kind of just haphazard put them together like hours and hours and hours and she would put little collazone and little fur and a little trim and some ribbons everything was yeah, couture. So I was baby couture. I was like yeah, and I would stand there for hours because I wanted to wear the clothes. Do you remember the first dress my Bobby in couture clothes? Because my grandmother would make my Bobby clothes. So I had clothes for my Bobby that nobody had. Of course the bar. And then even my Kindle had some clothes. Yeah, this is before Shalame. So when do you do you remember the first designer or like artist in the fashion world that you worked with directly and you felt like oh, this is a moment for me in terms of an entry into the fashion world. I mean the first one was John Galeano and I was shooting Ice White shot and so I was able to go over to Paris regularly and and I would stand there for them and they would try things on me and try different fabrics and then I would go in and try on the hats and and then I would go to Carl's house. Then it sort of just was you know, it was just a bridge and from that point on I was and you have really they don't come to you. You have to go to them and you have to be willing to be a mannequin like a model and just stand there and and let them let them design to you and because I'd been so tall and skinny my whole life suddenly there was a reason to be tall and skinny. I want it always to be short and curvy and so suddenly it was like oh I can be tall and skinny and somebody doesn't mind that. And there's a purpose. I mean, what are you anticipating? They can utilize it. Of course. Of course. Are you anticipating anything in particular with MacGala this year as being part of the host committee? Like because I feel like it's such a pivotal year for the Gale. Well, I just get to be there with Beyoncé. That's all that. That's it. Done. My girl. I'm done. Here we go. So Julie. Is it a thing where you guys do you discuss you get like as being part of the host committee? With Anna. Yeah. We walk with Anna and who is iconic. Is it a last year? And a genius. No, she's she's staying on. Yeah. Yeah. To to to to always chair the Gala. The Gala. Okay. Yeah. We need Anna. We do. Yeah. We need Anna. Anna has created so many people's careers. She's a massive supporter of art and fashion and and women. I mean, she's she's extraordinary. And so therefore to be able to and it's this is I think it's the third time I've coach had. I think. Yeah. So but to do it now. I'm so so happy and my daughter Sunday will be coming. Oh, it means yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's so fun. That's another thing you get to do with your daughter. That's incredible. Yeah. And she loves fashion. She's actually just walked the Dior show. She's just yeah. She's flying back from Paris now. Oh my god. That's the thing. I know. Which I don't need to do with. It's her. Yeah. Yeah. Of course. Yeah. All world and her relationship and she and Jonathan Anderson. Yeah. It's incredible. I was thinking as you were talking like you mentioned Grace Kelly who you got to portray. You mentioned Audrey Hepburn who obviously in big little wise you guys all get to do the Audrey Hepburn. And I did read. And then his Marilyn who I of course I'll always be in love with my I mean, yes. And also I wanted to ask about Lucille Ball. Oh, because I think that that's one of my favorite performances you've ever done. You really did capture just like her like relentless commitment to get it. I just getting it right. And I wonder if that's something that you connected with that that was it like. She's a hard work of the me. She knew what she wanted. She had to be. She came in an era when she had to be such a trailblazer. She had to. She was so brilliant. Yeah. That her and comedy is detail. Yep. So as she would say comedy is detail. You can't be generalized. You can't be haphazard. Sometimes you'll stumble on a joke. But if you're really doing comedy and comedy every week that has to deliver time and time again, then that is arduous hard technical skilled work. It's not just fly by night, give it a give it a whirl. Right. You know, and that's what that's what I learned from playing her. She was also an amazing business woman at a time when they were not women at the helm. And she had a very complicated love relationship and she loved him. And she was this extraordinary being. So to be able to play her, whether I looked like her or not, I was able to capture her voice at least and her mannerisms. And then it was like I couldn't get rid of her. And she was in me. But it was so fun. And half the stuff that we prepared and everything was not in the film. So yeah, yeah. Maybe our text from that. The staging of the comedy scenes. That's really cool. So I could do every movement, every single movement, like by I studied and studied and stood and with a movement. I like we did so much prep and then a tiny bit of it is in there. But that's performance you have to do an enormous amount of work. And maybe it makes the cut or maybe it doesn't. It can't be attached to it. Kind of complicated theater that was doing sitcom at the time that I guess you have. Yeah, you know. But like gosh, and we're talking about it because I completely agree. And I was it's funny. I was even watching being the Ricardo's when I had Omicron and I had to miss my only SNL, which was that, which was that episode December 2021. But it was watching you. And it did just give me this. It just did just download me with this notion that like you have to comedy is logistics. And so what did you say earlier comedy is detail? Yeah, detail. It's all in the details. And then where's the laugh? Where's the laugh? Okay, there it is. No, so and they were lucky because they have the live studio audience. So they had the feedback. I think it must be so hard trying to do that without that because this is like, okay, great. We know that works. We know that is like when you do theater and you go, great, that's working. Right. Or you're surprised at what works. And then you go, jeez, I feel that wasn't going to work. And that just landed. I know. We'll just save that. And we can lay it that now. And now we can add and add and add. There's also nothing more distracting than an artificial laugh track. Like some of some of the multi cams that they do now where you can tell there's an artificial laugh track. Yeah, I don't think we, I mean, we probably didn't need it. No, because it's just you, we know from years of growing up on that like right. Right. That's watching an AI video. It's like I know the Artifice here. Yes, it's just a little off in terms of the volume of the reaction of the timing of the reaction. I mean, but you've never hosted SNL before. Have you? Oh, back in the 90s, you did. Oh, oh, oh, yeah. I did. Does this motivate you to do it? Did any of that motivate you? Or are you? Yeah, I would love to do it again. Oh, you sure? It's just a lot of work. Yeah, it is. It's a lot of work. And it's about sort of gosh, it's because I was going to say it's about relinquishing the control, but also being so just so facetious with it too. I'm happy to relinquish control to people that know what they're doing. So I would be happy to come back and do it and try stuff and just play because really it is playing, right? Yeah. But, um, but it's also when you have two kids and you live in Nashville and you work and you've got a whole other, it's a lot to commit to, but it would, I mean, it's an honor if you're ever asked. Yeah. So yeah, bow down. I would like, I would so love to. I'm sort of ready now because I'm also at a place where I go, yeah, let's do it. Give it a try. Yeah. Before flat on your face. It's okay. Get back up. You guys get that idea, diarrhea island. Yeah. You have no idea where I've been and what it's smell like. That smell is a particular smell. Yeah. I'm not reputable anymore. I'm very, very smell sensitive. Are you? Yeah. Oh, like, yeah. We're going to get to this part of my personality. You have a heightened smell. Yeah. I, it's my response. Yeah. Yeah. I'm either drawn to or drawn away based on a smell. Thank God. You're still here. And you, you made me laugh and I love you, Bob. And I love how you smell. Check this out. It's good. Really good. Bye. Really. Okay. So I do, we have to ask you this other thing, which is so we've had Reese and Laura here. Yes. My girls. The best. My girls. The best time with both of them. Reese came in and she didn't impression of you. Yeah, I've heard it. And that's wrong. Laura came in and didn't impression of Reese. So we have to know if you have a more in a way that you definitely do. Yeah. Yeah. Now, let's talk about Yes, this is happening. It's breathtaking. Yes. Right. I know. Yes. It's the warmest, most responsive, and you go, she gets me. Oh. She's resonating from her spirit. Yeah. Yeah. That is love. Wow. Right. Yeah. It is love. Isn't it? And then she said her ownos. Like, it's a little bit at the elbows. She articulates from here. You're saying? Yeah, yeah. But seeing those two together, watching them improv, oh my God. Oh, yes. They should actually have their own improv show. They are hilarious. We were laughing. Yeah. But you haven't seen them take gather. No. When they throw it back, I mean, they're both brilliant comedians. Yes. And then I just worked with one of the other brilliant comedians of my generation and Sandy Bullock. Oh. Right. And then I got to go back to the magic too. Yeah. But I mean, those women on it, that guy, oh, come on. Yeah. And Julia. Julia. Oh, of course. Well, the great comedians of the generation. Tell me not sleep on your performance and just go with it, please. Okay, because there are people I know. And I'm going to shout them out, Jared Frieder, who says that's Nicole's best. Yes. Just go with it. You have no idea how many-- With Dave Matthews were on dancing on the-- You got to-- You're the one. You haven't done. It's amazing. It's really incredible. Yeah, we were in-- I was in Hawaii with Adam Sandler and Jen. Come on. I mean, come on. Can it get better than that? Yeah. And Dave Matthews. We got to get you on the morning show. Yeah. We're going to get you in there with recent Joe and the morning show. In all my spare time. I do have a question about how you do all of it. Do you think your calendaring-- is it-- are you booked through December at this point? I actually know. You're not? No. Is that a purposeful choice for this year? Yeah. I'm on Penazov the summer. Who? I'm just like, I'm going, OK. What's coming my way? I do not know. You do what's great. I do not know. Who we have this for you? So I'm not. But I'm-- I've got some holidays planned. There we go. Yeah. I'm all about the vacation. Yeah. Right? So I got a cruise planned. Yes. Where are you going? I can't tell. I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what. I'm going to Thailand for the first time in a-- Oh, lovely. Oh, yeah. I love Thailand. Yeah. Never been. Been all over Thailand. I do feel like for some reason. I have my phone in Thailand. Oh, yeah. Oh, that's very pretty. Twice. I did Banco, Kilton, when I was really, really young, and then I did a film railway man. Oh, yes, yes, yes. No, you don't know that film. I don't think it killed me. No, yeah. I've been-- I've been telling you. I've been telling you. Oh, yes, yes, yes. This is the Nicole's team. Yes, yes, yes. I'm happy you did. No. I can't. You can't watch it all. But no, I'm excited because I do feel like it's this weird random thing that keeps happening where I end up going on a vacation to wherever the last white lotus was. We're just sleeping, though. Thank you, Mike White. Where's he going next? What did he say? He's going next. Oh, well, as you get ahead of it, he's going to get his hands on. He's going to get his hands on. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's. Oh, lovely. Did you know that? No. That's the rumor. Fire out. Yeah. Let's go. What's the buzz on the street? Well, he said, he's in genius. It's a reality. There was an interview he did the other day where he said the interview deals with some with celebrity and about people who are comfortable being seeking out a love that is more than just with one other person. They need a love of something larger. Right. And about answering that question of why and about how people can feel when they're in a relationship with someone who needs more love than just one person can provide. Really interesting. And I think that like, you know, obviously there's going to be a piece of ego and stuff. Well, that comes back to that person is not satiated with themselves, right? Yeah. Of course. They're not in love with themselves. Right. So what are you feeling my whole? Is that what you think that is? Probably. They're not at peace. So that's a pretty, you're, I mean, you're going to face, you're going to have to face the, the reality of what this life is at some point. So whether you're going to allow yourself to come to that place or whether you're just going to get felt by it, right? It's a choice. So you can do the work to actually try to, and it's never done, but you can always be going, okay, what do I do here? What is the next chapter? Particularly when you get to a certain stage in life, it's like, okay, where am I at now with who I am and am I okay being alone? Because as soon as you're okay with, and when I say being alone, like really being alone, it's not just being alone for a couple of days in your, in your apartment, it's am I okay with being alone? There will be nobody there when I die. Is that going to be okay? Are you, no, but you know, you can't. You don't know. Of course. So at some point you've got to just face the facts. It's what is about, what you got? You got to feel like, geez. It's not what it is. It's not what it is. True. I think about in the lot. Because those, yeah, 3am in the morning when you wake up and you are alone, well, that then is like, okay, this is where I have to be at peace. And being a piece is just about like assigning meaning to, if the meaning you're assigning to your life is not like deleterious in some aspect to your vitality. It's like, it's like this thing of like, if you were, if your love has to involve the love of other people in this way that is a little grotesque or untenable or unsustainable, it's like that is going to eat away at something. You have to find, you've just switched gears and find a different reason to like be alive and to give yourself meaning besides this thing that is not healthy for you. You can't give you what you're needing from it. Never will. Never. Never. Mike White. And just think. Hey, me. Do you ever watch any reality television because he's fully on survivor right now? You didn't know this. Mike White is a survivor contestant. He came in second. Oh, I'm so happy to tell you this. He came in second on a season of survivor years ago, post him being a well known Hollywood writer way after, you know, school of rock and then lightened and all of that. He went on survivor came in second place in a tough like, well, I have to eat something. I'm sure it's important. What do you have to do? You got to tell me. You got to live. You got to do the tribal council devotes all that in second place. Second. And now he's on the 50th season where they've brought back all the icons of the show. And I guess some somehow he fit into his schedule going out there for nearly 30 days and competing on survivor. He's on it right now. How's he doing? Well, it's only one week, but so far, so good. And his whole narrative in the first episode was. I mean, I'm sure he had like this ripped body and everyone was like Mike White. That was like, I mean, man, it's got a Hollywood trainer. There you go. But that was the whole narrative on the first episode was, oh my god, he's ripped. That's crazy. I had no idea. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. But you watch everything but reality TV. No, I sometimes watch reality TV. I've watched it with my daughters and I've been like, oh, no, this is too much. Turn it off. What are they into? I'm not allowed to talk about what they're into or anything. Oh, yeah. I get to what I get called millennial. So, um, join the club where you're in the right place. So, and that is not a compliment. Right. Trust me. Trust me. Trust me. Right. But you do have reputation like for watching a lot. Like Reese does the impression of you being like, we have to get this to watch. But I watch art films and I watch. Yeah, I got you. Yeah, I'm like, I'm like, who is this Arnold? Yeah. Like, who is this over here in Norway right now? Wow. Over here. Yeah. I'm like, I love to, that I've grown up doing that. I would go and I would sit in a dark there and I would watch subtitle films since I was little. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Was my access to the world. And I also wanted to raise global children. Right. So, that's why my kids have been to seven continents. That's amazing. As of two weeks ago. We're three weeks together. Yeah. Yeah. Crazy, right? So, they hit seven at what ages? Like, she's 15, the youngest. Oh, wow. They do it. Beautiful. That's amazing. Yeah. We have to find a new continent. We got to, we got to go to space. There is the moon. There is the moon. There is the moon. There is the moon. The eighth continent, the moon. It's actually Roll of Culture Number 15. There is the moon. Well, I'm trying to think if they, before we do, I don't think so honey. If there's anything else I need to pick our guests. Oh, no. I think it's a question I don't like. Pick brain. Pick brain. Pick my brain. Pick my heart. Pick your heart. Oh. Okay. Wait. You know that you have one of the most iconic Vogue 73 questions. I do. You do. I did not know. I just meant practice. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's only four now. There's only four. Oh, I'm so sorry. Are we going to get two new ones? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. We got to keep it a six-cell pack is. Why is six-cell pack is? And then they're like, can you lead the out packets through the frame? We're like, no. No. I'm not going to do that. You're not going to say, we're like, come on. Come on. Come on, Byron. Yeah. Named after Lord Byron. Oh. Come on. Come on, Byron. No. Byron was like, no. Then we're like, forget it. This doesn't look good. Byron. We're pulling your guard. Byron. So it's just like, no, sit on the porch. How many takes was yours? Uh, maybe six. Oh, wow. It's a long day. It's a long day. But you kind of. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. to play. And yeah, but you walked all through my country estate. I love it. It was different now. Okay. Yeah. I've redesigned it. I really did it. Might need another 73 questions there. Yeah. We have to go back. We'll do it. There's more animal. Yeah. More animals. There you go. There we go. Reason to return. Take care of it. Go to any questions. There's many to go. It's now perfect. Those are what you just watched for the first time. Two horses. Two horses. You didn't meet the horse. No, we didn't get to see many, many more. No, because he had never. Okay. So he had, he had a blind spot, which was my set out that good. He had a blind tell which is to die for, which was a lot. I've seen to die for no, he's seen it now. I love to die for. I love Suzanne Stone. Suzanne Stone. I feel like that's done is killer. Yeah. But I love her for pretty killer. She was a gorge skill. But I have to say like there's just something. Again, maybe it is just. It's Buck Henry and I can't believe that. Yeah. Yeah. And Gus. Yeah. Buck Henry for everyone. If you still the graduate, he wrote the graduate. And he's one of the great, great writers. And then Gus, Vincent, what can we say? I also shout out to obviously Joaquin, but Ilya Nadellis. Oh, amazing in that movie. And gets lost in the conversation of great performances from that era. That's a great performance. Well, she already escaped her when you guys saw she couldn't get she said she could skate. Hey, we're at love it. Can you ice skate? Absolutely. Absolutely. I can. And then she was on the ice. That's so good. You're so good. She may look good. Yes. So good in the movie. She in a double. She in a double. But no, but she did. She got there. But you know, that's what you say. Can you write a host? Absolutely. Can you ice skate? Yes, I can. Can you? What? Have you done that? Have you lied? I've said, yeah, I can sing. And then, Baz is like, we're going to need more singing lessons. You know, it's always yes. It's always yes. And then you grow. Because you know who I'm talking to Gina Gershon today, because her book, her memory, she's the best. I will. I will. Yeah. All throughout her memory, she's like every, every world I've got like showgirls. Can you dance? Yeah. No, let's like, it's like. Yes. Yes. I will. But then it's going to become the thing where it's like, can you ski? And I'm going to be like, yeah. And you really can't. And then it's a hazard. So say yes within reason people. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's dangerous when you say, it's like, how much do you want? Want the role? Exactly. Pretty bad. And they're on to us now. Because then they're like, okay, we'll show us. They've got it. They've hacked us as actors. I know. Directism producers are like, send me a tape. Show me. Not that anyone has to put you through your pace. I know. Like you've proven you can do everything. Also like what? No, I'm on. I'm on. I'm just on a massive learning curve. I'm always like, okay, teach me. Teach me. I'm teachable. That would be a good attribute to say. I'm teachable. Teachable. That's a great thing to be. I think it's something that I hope it is. Maybe time for I don't think so, honey. And I'm not rigid. No, certainly not. I'm not working a good mood. Yes. I always wake up. Always. What do you attribute that to? I don't know. Born that way. You wake up. I always. Yeah. I've always working on in a good mood. Does that correlate to how you go to bed? I go to bed. I have trouble sleeping because I have a lot of energy. Yeah. These are coffee or you don't even need it or not after midday, but I did today. That's why I'm kind of jacked up now. Can you tell? I'm usually a lot wider. More sedate. Yeah. I feel a bit jacked up. I had a cold brew today and then two coke zero. So I'm a killing machine. Yeah. Yeah. Will you sleep tonight? Maybe not, but that'd be because I was so excited about this. So I'm serious. We have been dying. They're coming. I know. I felt you. I felt you. Right when on the boat, they were like, you know, who's just here from Nicole Kim and I was like, I'm talking to her next to me. It was, it was crazy. I feel like even though you are caffeine post midday, it is still like talking to you and being with you in person, it is still the thing of like, oh, Nicole Kim and like has levitated in all her roles. Essentially, you know what I mean? It's like, you have this like airy lightness to you. You can go really well. You really have given so much to culture and that's what our podcast is about. And we've now been doing it for 10 years and I would imagine you probably come up like, you know, quite often to say the least. And I just think back to all the errors of like our life as movie goers and you have a place in all of them. And I just, and in so many different ways, like whether it's like as a mainstream as Batman or as me, she's something like birth. Or, you know, dogville or dog. This is like, you are a true, you have a true artist spirit. And you're also this like megawatt movie star and they just, they don't make them like anymore. Like Margot Robbie, it must be like, I love her sister to you. She's my, yeah. And I love Emma Stone. I love her. She's so brave and she's just like, yeah, shave my head. Absolutely. What do you want? You're a ghost. Let's go. But then, you know, I've, I've just went and worked with Osgood Perkins. I did a small role in young people, which is this horror film that he's got coming out. And I love him. And I wanted to go and support him. So he's like, I've written this role. It's three days work. And I'm like, yeah, yeah, I'm coming, coming your way. Yeah. So I just love being able to do something like practical magic, which is a big studio film and then go do a fully independent crazy wild thing. Can you give us a bunch of really great young actresses who are, yeah, rising stars. I mean, we're good friends with Megan Fahey. Oh, yeah, yeah. I just love. And she's, she's so good. She's amazing. She is on the cusp of being massive. She can do it all. She can do it all. Yeah, I mean, did you drop? She's sort of effortless. No, I haven't. She was in this movie called Drop, which came out last year, which was she plays a single mom, pretty recently single mom, who goes on the first date she's been on since her abuser husband, like, took his own life, yeah, and tried to kill her. And she's finally got her legs again. And she goes on a blind date with this guy. And she sits down at dinner and she starts getting air dropped messages from someone at her home, who's kidnapped her son. And so it's just it's sort of like, like, it's like a red eye in me. It's like, I don't even know. Oh, I'm in a watch. Oh, it's good. And Megan is fantastic. Yeah, she holds the frame and she's just so gorgeous. And she's talented. Yeah. I'm going to touch her after this. Yeah, yeah. Anyways, all that and more. Almost 30 years together, four kids and some of reality TV's most unforgettable moments, we now think or do about living life out loud. We're taking you behind the scenes in our new podcast Between Us, with me, Heather DeBro. And me, Terry DeBro. Listen to Between Us, on the iHeart radio app Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. I went and sat on the little Ottoman in front of him and I said, "Hi, dad!" And just when I said that, my mom comes out of the kitchen, she says, "I have cookies and milk. Just finished five years. I'm gonna have cookies and milk and milk. On the scene of show podcast, each episode invites you into a raw, unfiltered conversations about recovery, resilience, and redemption. On a recent episode, I sit down with actor, cultural icon Danny Trail talk about addiction, transformation, and the power of second chances, the entire season two is now available to binge, featuring powerful conversations, against like Tiffany Attish, Johnny Knoxville, and more. This woman's history month, the podcast, "Key to Pause a Sweetie" celebrates the power of women choosing healing, purpose, and faith. Pazza's sweetie creates space for honest conversations on self-worth, love, growth, and navigating life with grace and grit led by women who have lived, inspired, and tell the truth out loud. "I have several conversations with God and I know why it took 20 years." To hear these in more, listen to "Keebid Pazza's Sweetie" on the I'd Heart Radio App, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. It's time, Radha. I'm ready to do it. I'm not going to be popular with the rest of the panel here today, but I'm just going to go ahead and do it. I know where this is going. This is Matt Rodgers. I don't think so any as time starts now. I don't think so any Antarctica. Because I face time my girl on the way to Antarctica and she's supine in a rickety vessel with the, what do you call it? A scop patch. A scop patch, whatever this is. You have to learn what that is to go to Antarctica. He's got the scop patch, whatever it is. However, you got Dim Spellet on his neck. I go, is that helping? He goes, "Yeah, but I can't see. My girl is cross-eyed supine on the Drake's passage. Now I know what the Drake's passage is. The most treacherous one is for the Atlantic. It's the Pacific. I don't think so honey. Keep them separate. I see my girl finally gets to Antarctica. Takes a few pictures. Sends me a video. It's the iceberg falling apart. The iceberg takes the video with the iceberg. And I say, "Now is that supposed to happen?" He says, "They go yes and no." I go, "Okay, not great information for me on tonight. I don't think so honey, Antarctica. You can kind of get there kind of not yet to wait days." Nicole Kimmins flying in on an ice. What is it called? The path of the island. I don't know so honey. And that's one man. It's just made me not for me. I can get Africa in and that'll be six. And you think you get six. No, no, we'll work on you. We'll work on you. I just, I don't know. That's a bad, that they are not. We can delete that. We're doing it. We can delete that on this one. Okay, but I will say, I had planned to do that once so I did it, but you guys do make it sound really appealing and adventurous. I'll go the quiet. You're already changed your mind. That's my fault. I'm proud of you. The patch is transdermal. It steadies your optic nerve so then I couldn't see. Yikes. Yeah. I didn't do the patch. I just was poked. You ruffed it. You were rotted. I was like, oh, I love that. I'm a Navy SEAL. Well, I've been told that with pain. Really? Yeah. I mean, someone say that to you. Just do it. No, no. Because that means I can have broken bone and just still not even go and get it X-rayed and not check it and walk around and just say it's a pulled muscle. Really? Yeah. Yeah. Holy moly. Now that's not normal for a redhead because usually you feel extra pain. That's what they say. Right. They're still extra pain. Is that a way to do something to do? They just say, well, I'm not that. Yeah. I can like, I don't know. I put myself in a trance. Yeah. They go, do you need the anesthesia? No. Huh. So you need to do survivor. It was what you said. I wish I'd know Mike was doing it. I would have done it with him. I don't think it's too late. We might get him back for another season if he said you go to text to me and said, do you want to do this together? Honestly. And we would have gone head to head. You would have gone head to work. I definitely would have come in second. You know. I feel I will come in last though. Because I give up easily. No, you don't. You can walk around with a broken door. No, but in terms of a competition, that's that, I would just go, I give up. Are you not a competitor for this? I'm not good to have on a sports team because I was always chosen last for the volleyball team because I just was like, well, is this really important? Do we have to win this? Yeah. I'm not a good doubles tennis partner because I'm like, oh, I can psychological. I need, I need some sports psychology. I'm with you. Yeah, I give up. I'm like, do you matter? I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. Yeah. But now it's a dinner. You know, it's a glass of wine. Yeah. Well, it's just too stressful. Life's too stressful. Life's too stressful to care about. The volleyball game. You know, all the tennis match. Let's just play some recreational tennis. Yeah. Hit the ball back and forth. I said hit the ball. I'm not going to do it. I don't like grill. I don't think so. Honey tarps. Can I say nothing good happens around the tarp? No, no, no, no, lay down the tarp. Oh, that was another thing in Antarctica though. You couldn't put anything to you to put it down on the tarp. You put your life jacket on the tarp. You to protect it all. That to protect it all. It's beautiful. Very obvious. So more of the Antarctica energy around the world. I think so. Because I will say we went to Tokyo, then came back to America. Couldn't believe how filthy we are by comparison. Yeah. Like you walk around New York and you compare it to Tokyo. It's like absolutely absurd. Like I you don't even see it because you're so used to it. I know. Yeah. Like but it's like that and like it's all about the contrast isn't it? And then you to open your eyes. Yeah. Yeah. That's why it's important to travel. I agree. I agree. Now it's time. Oh, mine is going to be good. I think I think you've got you've got the idea. I just got the idea. Yeah. You're going to have to crush it. This is Nicole Kidnins. I don't think so, honey. And her time starts now. I don't think so, honey, if you have bad breath. I cannot stand bad breath. I mean, this is a deal breaker for me. Like you could be the most gorgeous, gorgeous guy and you come at me with bad breath. And I'm like, no, no, no, it's off. Right? It's like if I say breathe on me and I have to recoil yikes. I'm out. I am out. You could not offer me enough money. And so therefore when Alexander Skarsgard ate a falafel sandwich before we did the scenes in big little lies, I'm like, no, no, no, Alex, I'm meant to be kissing you and into you put away the falafel now. Right? Because the bad breath does not turn me on Alex. As I said, it is very important to smell good, but more importantly, the mouth, the taste of the mouth and the smell of the mouth is very important to me. And that's one minute. I have to say, Alexander Skarsgard has been having such a moment with Piliyon and you just knocked him out. I'm sure he did not eat a falafel ever again. Yeah, I think you looked him in the eyes. I said no more falafel. No more that. Nope, not before you kiss. Not before you make love. No more falafel. No more falafel. The falafel away. It's a rule of culture number 50. No more falafel. No more falafel. Before you make love. And I just have to say, for an actor of your caliber to say that falafel could destroy the reality of the scene. But just render could render the scene work completely meaningless. Purely on breath. Yeah. You really aren't old factory queen. Talk about the breath. You are an old factory queen. It's all a breath, the smell. Yeah. Yeah. It is needed. Is that your most high sense? Totally. Yeah. Yeah. Smell. Tied to memory. Which is why when I lost it, I was relieved. After basement. You said unburdened me. I was like, few. Oh. This is great. This is after baby girl. This is after the. After covid and the flu combo. Yeah. And I was in a good way. Because it was a mutate. It was finally I was free. You mean peace finally. It was like you were in an article. I was free. Yeah. I was free. So that when it came back. I am obsessed. I can't now now knowing. And you want to know who smells the best ever. of course, I've heard that actually. It's true. Do you think it's that like she just has a scent? That like like a fragrance that she knows it's something we don't need to we don't need to unravel it's not for it. No, just know it's all true. What is it's not like? It's intoxicating. I'm heard it is. I will follow you around and it is like you smell so good. Oh my gosh. I will follow you around. So you're saying it to right? I'm peppy. Look you. Yeah. I'm peppy. Look you. And I was in the most respectful way. But no, truly she smells divine. I'll tell you also really smell divine. I have my loony tunes characters on today. We'll have loony tunes. We love loony tunes. Yes. Yes. No, don't you do little quacker. There's tweedy. Oh my god. Honestly, I have one. I need to with this out of the right moment. Yeah. Something is happening. Yeah. You're any through all right now about Rihanna, Tweety bird, smells and general, the legendary ladies of our time. I'm sensory. Okay. So have you ever remembered to you. It's a cute mock. It's very good. So good. Listen. This has a lot of those Tweety bird. Rihanna. We come in. Oh, Dyerrier Island. That's why I didn't like it. You see? Of course. Yeah. This smell. It's all about smell. It's been a shivery, delicious episode. Fabulous. Fabulous. Doesn't even begin to cut it. We want to just say thank you so much for coming here. Thanks Fab. I mean, everything is carpella is out now. You can you can stream it the hell away. Like in one binge. That's what Nicole's saying to me. And watch Jamie liqueurta. And I got hair at up. Fist decals. We come to we we've physically fired in it. Oh, I'm so happy. We literally fight and you two are just to fight. But like come to blows. You're too, I'm going to say a rambunctious people. And just to see that it's going to be good. It's worth the price. I hope so. Okay. And Margot. Thank you. Yes. I've produced that. Yes. Yes. Yes. On its way. Yes. With L and the darling Michelle. Oh my god. We didn't even talk about the baguettes. Bring me the act. Bring me the. No, bring me the. No, bring me the anatomy book. The anatomy book. Okay. The start episode. No, the best. At my purpose. Like we got to go. She's got weird, weird, weird, weird, weird. Scarpella. But I'm the next episode. Because I go all about the baguettes and bring you back. You got to ask me back. Any time. And you got to have more of a recent eye back. Yes. Please don't threaten us. All right. He's. We never ever saw the song. We're both you and come on. You are really you in there. We love that throughty bell to you. Let's get the call out. Okay. Last culture is this is the production by Will Ferrell's big money players in a heart radio podcasts. Created and hosted by Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang. Executive produced by Anna Hosniay and produced by Becca Ramos. edited and mixed by Doug Bame. And our music is by Henry Kavarski. I love it. I heard TikTok radio. 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