She Was Stalked & Then Abducted at Target… the Murder of Kelsey Smith
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Hello, everyone, and welcome back to another episode of True Crime with Kendall Rae. Thank
you so much for joining me today. And if you're new to the show, then welcome. I'm so happy to
have you here. So you guys, today we're getting into a case.
That happened 18 years ago, but it is just as painful today as it was back then. We're going
to be talking about the 2007 murder of Kelsey Smith. And one of the most upsetting parts about
this case is the fact that Kelsey had literally just graduated high school, and her future was
bright, and it was in arm's reach, and it was all just ripped from her and her family out of nowhere.
But speaking of her family, I just have to say right off the bat,
they are such amazing people. And the way that they describe her, the love that they had for her,
and everything that they have done since she died is what truly inspired me to even talk about her
case today. Because I think the work that they have done since, and the way that they have kept
her memory alive, needs to be highlighted. I also just wanted to mention right off the bat,
in case Kelsey's family sees the intro of this episode and maybe doesn't watch the entire thing,
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I'm happy that I do have a lot to tell you about Kelsey. There's a lot of information available
about the wonderful person that she was. On May 3rd, 1989, Kelsey Ann Smith was born.
Her parents, Greg and Missy, were just over the moon excited to welcome her into this world,
and at the time, she was their youngest. She had two older sisters, and her oldest was actually
from her mom's first marriage. And then after she was born, they went on to have two more kids,
making Kelsey the middle of five. And growing up, she used to joke that she had middle child
syndrome. And it sounds like from the time that she was young, she was always quite the little
explorer and very curious. And her parents said that she was also very inquisitive,
and she earned herself the nickname No-No, which I love. And I'm sure you can guess why. It's because
her parents were always telling her, No-No. She also got the nickname Blueberry because of how
much she loved the color blue. And although she was born in Charleston, South Carolina,
their whole family ended up moving to Overland Park, Kansas, when she was nine after Greg got
out of the Navy. And her father, Greg, was actually originally from there, so he was very
excited to move his family back to his home turf, you could say. And he was especially excited
because this part of Kansas is known to be very, very safe. I guess it's like 20, 25 minutes,
south of Kansas City, and it's a, you know, very residential, family-friendly community.
And a friend of mine, actually, who lives in Kansas is familiar with the area, and she said
it's known to be very safe. Of course, I feel like this is such a cliche thing to say in true
crime because no area is free of crime. Something can happen anywhere, but generally speaking,
if you're raising a family, this would be a great place to do it. In fact, at least from my
understanding, it's got some of the best public schools in the entire state, and Kelsey attended
one of those schools. She went to Shawnee Mission West and absolutely thrived there. She was a
dedicated member of the marching band, where she played clarinet, and she also sang in the choir
and was part of the theater program, and she was super talented at all of those things. Plus,
she also ran track, she kept up good grades, and on top of it all, had a thriving social life. Her
dad said that for whatever reason, their house was the one that all of her friends liked to come to,
and on any given day, there would typically be a group of girls there watching TV or playing games,
and it really doesn't surprise me that she had such a great group of friends. I think Kelsey
is a good example of your vibe attracts your tribe. People say that she was funny, she was kind,
responsible, always loved exploring, and that she just had the biggest heart.
And I love this specifically. They said that she was scrubbed in sunshine.
That's how happy of a person she was. Not to mention the fact that she was someone who could turn any
stranger into a friend and was never afraid to try something new. I mean, like I've said,
she had a very funny side to her, and she really liked to grind her mom's gears, tease her a little
bit. And I guess her mom, Missy, could not stand when people burped. So Kelsey loved to chug soda
and then let out these massive burps just to get on her nerves. But other than that,
and obviously that didn't cause actual problems for her parents, but it seems like overall,
Kelsey was not the type of child that her parents had to worry about, or not the type of teenager
that her parents had to worry about, which is pretty rare for a teenager in general.
It was so nice for them that she had done so well in school and that they could trust her. She never
caused issues, never really got into trouble. And so they were all really excited about the idea of
her going off to college. So she graduated from high school on May 24th of 2007, and her plan
was to go to Kansas State University, which is only about two hours away. And she was going to
medicine. She also had plans of joining the marching band alongside her sister. But until
then, she had, you know, the final summer at home to look forward to. And this is such a special time
in so many people's lives. And that summer, she planned on spending a lot of time with her
boyfriend, John. By June of 2007, Kelsey had been dating her boyfriend, John, for six months.
And it was a very serious six months for them. And everyone around them knew it. Kelsey's older
was almost annoyingly cute. Her whole family was just convinced that they were going to end up
together one day. And you can just tell in these photos how much the two of them truly care for
each other, especially this one picture of them smiling. They both just look so happy and
comfortable with each other. And God, it's just heartbreaking to look at now. And the night of
Saturday, June 2nd, they had plans to go and celebrate their six-month anniversary, which of
course is a big deal at that age. I remember Josh and I celebrating our six-month anniversary in high
school. And I remember Josh and I celebrating our six-month anniversary in high school. And I remember
you know, you got to celebrate these little milestones in young relationships.
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So their plan was to meet up around 7.30, and first they were going to go to a friend's pool
party, and then after that they were just going to go get dinner. But before all of that,
Kelsey wanted to make a quick run over to Target to grab a gift for him.
Earlier in the day, she'd gone to the old Shawnee Days Summer Festival with her dad,
and it just so happened that 6.30,
was when she had time to go to Target. Greg said she even left and then came home
really quickly because she forgot a CD that she wanted to listen to on her way there.
So she grabbed that, she told her dad she loved him, and that she'd see him when she came home.
And little did Greg know, this would actually be the last time he saw his daughter, and
I'm just so happy that they at least got to spend that day together doing something fun and
memorable. Now as far as her mom goes, she was actually on her way home from a wedding in Iowa,
so she wasn't there when Kelsey left, but they did end up talking on the phone, thankfully.
So Kelsey arrived at the Target by Oak Park Mall at 6.55pm, and within just a minute of arriving,
she called her mom to ask where she could find the boxes for part of her gift. It sounds like
she was planning to make him a scrapbook, but she had gone to Target looking for wrapping paper as
well, and also a box for him so that he could store his cards and letters, which is a really
sweet and thoughtful gift. So Missy was talking her through that,
while Kelsey walked around and grabbed everything she needed. They eventually hung up, and her mom
did get the chance to tell her that she loved her, and that she would see her when she got home.
But Kelsey never made it home that night. Right around 7.30pm, John showed up at her
place to pick her up as planned for their six-month anniversary, and he had also purchased
a gift for her that night he was planning to give her a promise ring. But when he got there,
she wasn't back yet. And at first, this wasn't a huge deal. They thought,
maybe she was running a little late. But then 30 minutes went by, and soon Greg and also her sister
Lindsay started to get concerned. By this point, Kelsey had been gone for over an hour, and this
was not the be-at-Target-for-more-than-an-hour kind of trip. This was a quick stop at Target,
not to mention the fact that Greg had this rule where his kids would have to call them whenever
they were out and going from place to place. That way, someone always knew where you were.
And Kelsey was responsible about this. This was very unlike her,
and keep in mind, Greg worked in law enforcement for a local community college, so he liked to be
extra cautious. And so, knowing all of that, they were very concerned when Kelsey didn't come home
and wasn't answering their calls and texts. And once Missy heard what was going on from her
daughter Lindsay, she told her that they needed to call the police, and that's exactly what Greg
did. And since he worked in law enforcement, he was making several calls to a few different
departments, trying to see if she had gone into an accident, or maybe she had been pulled over in
some kind of, you know, traffic,
violation. And her sisters were also calling different emergency rooms, trying to see if
Kelsey had possibly been brought in, but nothing came out of it. So that's when Lindsay and John
just decided to go to Target and see if they could find her. They thought maybe she was locked out of
her car, maybe her phone died, or it was somehow in the car, she lost her phone, something like that.
Or maybe she didn't find what she needed at Target, so she had decided to go to the mall looking for
a different gift. But when they pulled into the Target parking lot, neither Kelsey or her car were
there. And that's when they of course really started panicking. So they continued kind of
just driving around the area, hoping they would find her. And Greg's parents also lived in the
area, so they started driving around looking for her too, and they were actually the ones
that found her car. Turns out it had been parked in the Macy's parking lot, which was on the other
side of the mall. The scary part though was that Kelsey was still nowhere to be found. And as soon
as Greg got the call from Lindsay that it was found, he remembers very sternly telling her that
absolutely no one could touch it. I guess John wanted to look inside, understandably,
but Greg was like, I don't care what you have to do, I don't care if you have to tackle him,
do not let him go near it. He knew that this was a crime scene, and he immediately called 911 to
report what they had found. And by 11 o'clock that night, that Macy's parking lot became the
launching point for the investigation into Kelsey's disappearance. So as soon as law enforcement
arrived, they started processing her vehicle right away. And there were several things that just
off the bat. And one of those things was that there was something, possibly a piece of clothing
or fabric that was hanging out of the trunk. And of course, Kelsey is a teenager, she didn't keep
her car super clean, but Greg said that she would have never left something just hanging out like
that. And of course, he and Macy worried that maybe she was in the trunk, maybe it was a piece
of her clothing hanging out. Macy was back in town by this point, so she was with them at the scene,
to open up the trunk. And Greg said that he had his hands over his eyes, and both of them just
held their breath as it was being opened, but it was empty. There were, however, some frightening
clues in the passenger side of her car. That's where they found her keys, her purse, as well as
the items that she had just purchased at Target. But what they didn't find was her cell phone or
any signs of a struggle, which made this that much more confusing. And for her parents, it made it
that much more terrifying, because as I mentioned,
Kelsey had just graduated from high school, literally nine days earlier. And for her
graduation present, her parents had gotten her a coach bag. This was a big deal. Normally,
they didn't give out big gifts, so she was super excited and grateful to have this.
This coach purse was a prized possession of hers, so to see it just left in the car
was even more proof that something terrible had to have happened. And it is absolutely
gut-wrenching to hear Greg talk about his daughter's case in general in any interviews
that he's done, because he talks about how as all of this was happening, he almost had to go into
cop mode as opposed to dad mode, because it was just too emotional to think about this so personally.
As an officer, he knew all of the signs were pointing to something bad having happened. So
looking at it like a cop allowed him to keep it together in a way that he knew he had to,
and he knew he couldn't if he looked at it through the lens of Kelsey's dad.
And as some of us can only thankfully imagine, that night and
every day following was truly a living nightmare, just torture for all of them. And they, you know,
through all of that, stayed as strong as they could, and they were just determined to do
whatever they possibly could to try and find her. So while investigators brought the car in to be
forensically processed, Missy and Greg agreed to go into the station for questioning. And they,
of course, wanted to get this over as quickly as possible so that investigators can move on
to finding the true person responsible. And it did not take long at all for
the two of them to be cleared. So next investigators turned their attention to John, who they
definitely didn't go easy on. They asked him a series of very hard questions, often rephrasing
the same question in different ways to see if he, you know, changed his answers. But just like with
her parents, it did not take long for them to realize he had absolutely nothing to do with
this either. Plus, he also had an alibi for the time that she was missing, so he was free to go.
And with a million questions still looming at this point, this is when everyone turned their attention
to Kelsey's cell phone. Because she was missing and her phone was also missing, her family and
law enforcement thought it was possible she had it with her. And John had actually mentioned that
his uncle worked for Sprint and that these companies can ping cell phones in order to get
an estimate of their location. So that night, Missy and Greg start calling Verizon and asking
if they could ping the location of Kelsey's phone. And Verizon said no. And I kid you not, Missy
was on the phone with different associates at Verizon for a long time, just pleading with them
to help because her child is missing. And it didn't matter who she spoke to, the answer was still the
same. No. All they told her over and over was that she could go online onto their website and pull up
her call activity, her call log. But they didn't need her call activity. They needed her location
history. And Missy says that trying to get them to release these records,
was one of the most maddening things that she's ever experienced in her life. And I can absolutely
see why. To be dealing with something like that during one of the worst moments of your life,
probably the worst, is just torture. Her daughter is missing and these people hold the key to
potentially being able to find her and they just won't do it. They don't seem to care. Honestly,
I would just be beyond myself, livid. My blood is boiling just thinking about what they put her
through. And what's outrageous too is the Overland Park Police Department also had been calling
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on the search. And by the morning of Sunday, June 3rd, their house practically had turned
into its own mini command center. Between her parents, her siblings, her friends, and community
members, there was a big group of people absolutely determined to bring her home.
And with Greg's knowledge, he helped strategize how they were going to find her. It started off
with getting flyers printed, and then hundreds of people started passing them out and performing
their very own grid search. And by Monday, there were over 400 volunteers searching for her.
And Greg was told after the fact that by the time that the police started their search,
there was not a single person that they spoke to that hadn't already heard what was going on.
That's how thorough they were. They called themselves Kelsey's Army, and for good reason.
Meanwhile, Greg was able to find Kelsey's family, and they were able to find Kelsey's family. And
Greg and Missy gave as many media interviews as they possibly could, knowing that it would
also help spread the word. And during this time, Missy says that they weren't sleeping or eating
because of the agony they felt, wondering if their child was sleeping or eating. And Greg said that
it physically hurt to breathe because he was in so much pain. But nothing was going to stop them
from finding her, or at least getting answers. And I'm grateful to say that the entire
investigative team that was led by Bob Miller were just as determined. The morning after,
Kelsey went missing, a team of law enforcement officers went over to Target to see if they could
obtain any security camera footage. And thankfully, I feel like I rarely get to say this in cases, but
they had hours of footage from over 40 different cameras. And someone from Target's National
Investigation Center even came in to try and help them get everything that they needed.
And when they watched it, they were able to piece her movements together quite easily.
They could see her entering the store at 6.55 p.m., and then she proceeded to walk through the aisles.
They then went to the store, and they were able to see her entering the store at 6.55 p.m., and then she
went to the register at 7.05, and by 7.09, she was seen leaving. Now, when it came to the parking
lot, that footage, unfortunately, was especially low quality. Not only because we're talking about
2007 technology, but also, Kelsey's car wasn't parked close to the camera. But based on what
they could see, it looked like she put her items in the passenger side of the car and walked to
the driver's side where she got in and drove away. Which honestly kind of stunned everyone,
because at first pass, they didn't see anything to
indicate that she was ever in danger. And Detective Miller even said that he was expecting to see
an abduction happen right there on tape, but that was not what they were looking at.
So that left everyone wondering, where was Kelsey, and why was her car left in the Macy's parking lot?
And to answer that question, they reached out to Macy's, hoping that
they might have some surveillance footage as well. Before they managed to get that, though,
they happened to get a tip saying that someone resembling Kelsey had just,
been spotted at a nearby restaurant. And everyone immediately turned their attention
to this lead, and Greg and Missy were even brought there to see if it was her. And unfortunately,
by the time they had gotten there, the girl was gone. And after they watched the surveillance
footage at the restaurant, they realized that it was not even her. But after that,
they refocused their attention back to Macy's because they did have security footage, and
that footage ended up being very, very useful. It was dark, and it wasn't the best quality,
but they could see that at 9.17 p.m., Kelsey's car was driven into the parking lot. And then a man
wearing a white shirt and dark shorts could be seen exiting the car and walking away from the camera.
And even though it was clearly not Kelsey, it wasn't obvious who it was. But investigators
figured there had to be some sort of explanation for this person bringing her car back to the mall
area. I mean, what had happened here? So that's when they decided they needed to give the target
footage a closer look. And I mean closer.
Because the first time they had viewed it, they were watching it on like a 15-inch screen. This
time, though, they brought it into the command center, and they projected it on a massive wall
so that they could really get a good look at it. And they brought in a ton more people, so there
were, you know, a greater number of eyes, and that would guarantee that nothing would be missed.
And when they watched it back again, they finally saw it. As Kelsey was in the parking lot,
about to get into the driver's side of her Buick, a flash ran across the top part of the video.
And you guys, it is so subtle and quick that you would definitely miss it if you blinked. It is
hard to see at first. But that flash was a person wearing a white shirt and dark shorts, just like
the guy seen in the Macy's footage. And they say that you could have heard a pin drop in the room
because it was so silent when everyone realized what they were actually seeing.
And that wasn't the end of it either. When they began going through the footage from the
inside of the store, they realized that a man matching the same description
could be seen following Kelsey from aisle to aisle. It was very clear that he wasn't shopping
for anything. He was stalking her, making sure to stay close, but not close enough that she would
notice him. And this footage, man, it is just chilling. He just seems so calm. And somehow
they just didn't notice this the first time around. And that's likely because the two of them
never had interacted. He left the store before she did. And they were able to see that when
he left the store. And that strange man just beelined it out of Target. And thankfully, the camera that faces the exit was able to get a pretty clear shot of his face. And on top of that, they were able to go back through the additional parking lot footage, and they managed to find a guy matching his description driving into the parking lot only a minute after Kelsey first arrived. He was in a dark blue Chevy, which had also been captured driving around the backside of the store. They'd even captured footage of him driving out of the Target parking lot later that night, not long after the guy matching his description was seen.
Kelsey's car at Macy's. So of course, they've pieced together at this point that this is all likely the same person. And now they not only know what he looks like, but they know what kind of car he drives. And after Greg and Missy reviewed these tapes and confirmed they didn't recognize who he was, his photo and description were released to the media. And right away, there were tons of tips. I read that over 2000 people called in. And luckily, three of those tips pointed them in the right direction. And these
tips came from Overland Park residents who said that they thought the guy on their TV screen.
was their neighbor, 26-year-old Edwin Hall. And just FYI, that is the last time that I'm
going to say his name in this episode. Kelsey's parents have chosen not to acknowledge this
monster, and I'm going to follow their lead on that. I think that's awesome. I will, of course,
tell you what you need to know about him, but I'm not going to get into his whole history.
It's not worth our time or breath. So anyway, investigators looked his ass up and they realized
that he both matched the physical description and he also drove a blue Chevy. So all this
information was good enough for them to take a closer look at him. And they even sent Kelsey's
computer to a Missouri crime lab to see if there was any evidence that the two of them knew each
other. But he was a complete stranger. And before investigators were even able to send a team out
to talk to him, they got a phone call from a lawyer saying that he was representing this guy
and that he wanted to talk. So they ended up sending a few
officers to talk to him. And they ended up sending a few officers to talk to him. And they
to his house to go get eyes on him. Come to find out, he, his wife, and their kid were packing boxes
into his truck. Now, I don't think their initial plan was to talk to him, but once they saw him
clearly trying to leave, they knew they had to intervene, and ultimately, he was asked to come
into the station. Right away, though, they realized that he wasn't going to tell them anything. He and
his lawyer sat there for quite a while, and the whole time, he sits there quite literally with
his nose up at them, and you can tell he just thinks he's the smartest person in the room.
And apparently, he even wanted them to tell him what evidence they found, which,
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sure, he was at Target on the surveillance video, but he denied having anything to do
with Kelsey's disappearance. And this is disgusting, but he even told them that he remembered seeing her
because he thought she had nice legs. He even tried to explain the cuts and scrapes on his
hands as injuries that he got from doing yard work. And honestly, it sounds like he was sort
of just mocking them the whole time, like not taking it seriously at all, making a joke out
of the whole thing. And investigators sort of used that to their advantage. They were like,
okay, hey, if you're so confident that you didn't do this, if you're so certain that you are
innocent, let's just get some samples of your DNA, you know, let's rule you out. And he,
agreed. He gave them fingerprints and DNA swabs, which were immediately sent to the crime lab for
testing. And I also learned that his wife brought in a bag that contained the clothes he was wearing
that day. And that also got sent out for testing. And within only a few hours, they got a hit.
His thumbprint was a match to the thumbprint that they'd already found on the seatbelt buckle
in her car. And because of that, four days after Kelsey went missing,
an arrest was finally made. And I should probably specify too, that he was arrested for murder.
Because just about an hour before he was brought in for questioning, Kelsey's remains were found.
Like I explained earlier, this entire time, everyone had been trying to get Verizon to
turn over her cell records, including half a dozen police officers. But for days, Verizon wouldn't
comply because of privacy concerns. And they later said that it was something to do with the fact that
they were saying ping instead of locate. And that had something to do with it, which in my opinion,
doesn't make any sense.
I don't really understand cell phone companies, cell phone data, and how all of that works. But
ping, location, seems like a stupid detail to have not given this crucial data to law
enforcement and to a family who needs it. Anyway, though, finally, the FBI steps in.
And of course, they were able to retrieve those records from Verizon, which showed the movements
of Kelsey's phone after she left Target. And they were able to trace her driving along Highway 435
at Longview Lake in Missouri. Now, sources vary on whether this information came in late at night
on June 5th or early morning on June 6th. But bottom line is, it only took 45 minutes of
searching that area for her remains to be found. And I'll warn you, this is very graphic and very
upsetting. But Kelsey was found about 150 feet deep into the woods. And she was naked under some
sticks and leaves with her own belt around her neck. The shorts and pink tank top that she was
wearing were found not far from her body. And there were bleach stains on them, suggesting that
her killer attempted to hide traces of his DNA. An autopsy later confirmed that she had been
strangled and that her killer sexually assaulted her. She also had defensive wounds on her hands,
which tells us that she likely put up one hell of a fight. And when it came to notifying her family,
Greg and Missy knew that bad news was coming. They had received a call from the police captain
saying that he needed to meet with them in person to give them some news. Greg even asked him if
they needed to break the law. And he said, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't
brace for what he was about to say and he said yes they needed to brace so they sat at the end
of their driveway which was where they learned the news that kelsey had not been found alive
missy remembers yelling out not my kelse and greg said that he had to physically hold her up they
then had to break the horrific news to stevie and lindsey who had just pulled up to the house
and they were hit just as deeply by their sister's death and what's horrible is their younger siblings
were inside the house and they actually saw it on the news on tv and as for john he was on his way
to longview lake that morning to help search for her but he was turned away when he got there only
to learn about her death on the radio kelsey's murder was clearly a loss that everyone felt
and her absence is still very much felt to this day but i am grateful to be able to say at the
very least that justice was swift in her case and once her killer was arrested he was ultimately
charged with kidnapping
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rape sodomy and capital murder and then the following year he pleaded guilty to avoid the
death penalty and part of that plea included confessing to everything he did and the details
you guys are nothing short
of gut-wrenching. I mean, it's just horrible. He is truly a sick, disgusting, foul, worthless
monster, waste of a human life. And also, this freak had a history of violence. Turns out he
went to juvie as a kid for trying to stab his adopted sister with a knife. And at one point,
he'd also been charged for having a sexual relationship with a 14-year-old. But this plea
agreement also said that those charges would be dropped. But anyway, back to Kelsey's case,
we learned a lot about what happened. He ended up explaining that after spending the morning at home,
he went out that afternoon and dined alone at a Mexican restaurant close to the mall. He confirmed
he ate there without paying the bill and then went to Dillard's to shop for gifts for his wife. Then
he decided to go to Target, where his intention was to look for a victim. And Kelsey just so
happened to cross his path. He said that he thought she had nice legs and looked like a 12-year-old.
And once he noticed that she was alone, he knew that she was the one. So, like a predator stalking
his prey, he followed her around the store until she finally started walking towards the checkout
line. And that's when he says he went to his car to grab his BB gun, which looked a lot like a real
firearm. And then as she was getting into her car, he said he ran up on her, threatened that he would
shoot her unless she started driving. So, Kelsey complied, and he made her drive to Longview Lake,
where he committed acts against her that truly, I don't think,
be said. I mean, you can tell what happened from his charges. And then afterwards, he drove her car
to the Macy's parking lot, where he dumped it, and then he proceeded to go back to his car and
drive home. And apparently, there was even a couple who saw him the next day emerging from
the woods carrying a blue duffel bag, and they said that he was acting super paranoid, probably
because he had just poured bleach on her clothes to try and conceal evidence. With or without his
confession, though, evidence doesn't lie. And apparently, they had a hundred and
nineteen pieces of evidence that linked him to her murder, including additional DNA of his on
her steering wheel, as well as on the muzzle of his BB gun. And her DNA was also found on his clothing
as well. And I am really happy to say that this monster was sentenced to life in prison without
the possibility of parole, so he will rot there for the rest of his miserable life where he belongs.
But that's enough about him and what he did to her. That's not what her family wants people to
remember. The eighteen incredible years of life that Kelsey lived and the impact that she made in
such a short amount of time. Greg says that a quote that they have really lived by has been,
it's not the years in your life that count, it's the life in your years. And that was even put on
her headstone. And I think it's a really amazing way for them to describe the eighteen years of
life that she had. And I just loved hearing about how much their community really came
together to support them after she passed. Her funeral was held at the Church of Resurrection,
in Overland Park, and hundreds of people showed up to pay their respects. People literally waited
in line for hours and stayed well past midnight. And surprisingly, Kelsey had actually talked to
John about what she wanted her funeral to be like one day. Obviously, not knowing it would be so
soon, of course, but she said she wanted it to focus on who she was and for people to not be
sad about her passing. And this detail is so heart-shattering, but also so beautiful at the
moment. And this dress was inspired by Belle from Beauty and the Beast, which she starred in as Belle
in the school production. And of course, I cannot leave here today without telling you more about
the outstanding work that her parents have done in Kelsey's memory, which starts with the Kelsey
Smith Foundation. On July 7, 2007, less than five weeks after losing their daughter, Greg and Missy
founded this foundation, not only to honor her memory, but to empower other people, to protect
society's youth and young adults. And I think it's a really, really important thing to do. Kelsey was someone
who often made a difference in the lives of others. So this foundation is their way of
carrying on her legacy. And if any of you guys are from the Kansas City area, or really anywhere,
you may have actually had the pleasure of hearing Kelsey's parents speak. They have done speaking
engagements all over the country to educate people on personal safety awareness and preparedness.
Now, we're often taught what to do in a situation where we need to fight back against an attacker,
but their goal is to help people avoid being in those situations to begin with. Not only do they
but they also give out whistles to attendees, and they've awarded scholarships too. Plus,
there's an annual golf tournament every year in the Overland Park area. So if you're local,
maybe you can check out their Facebook page and learn more. Maybe you can go.
The 2025 tournament is already over, but it's never too early to show your support and interest
for 2026. Their Facebook page and website both have a lot of information on them,
and they are posting updates pretty frequently if you want to learn more. So I'll be sure to have
those linked for you guys. Also, it would be awesome, and you guys are so good about this,
and I'll see you guys in the next one. Bye.
is not where their efforts end, and this is so beyond impressive, you guys. But
obviously, when Greg and Missy were reflecting on what happened to Kelsey, there was one thing
that made this already horrific situation a thousand times worse, and that was how long
it took Verizon to release that cell phone location data. I mean, it was just torture for
them. So they decided that they wanted to get a law passed so that other people could avoid
being put in the same situation. Now, they don't believe that. They don't believe that. They don't
blame Verizon for what happened to her. They know that nothing would have changed as far as final
outcome goes if they had turned over that data sooner, but it would have saved them four days
of agony. So in April of 2009, they got the Kelsey-Smith Act passed in the state of Kansas.
And since then, you guys, they have got it passed in a total of 31 states, and odds are you may
have already heard of it. So according to a federal law known as the Electronic Communications Privacy
Act,
if law enforcement reaches out to a cell phone provider, that provider may release certain
customer information if they, the provider, believe someone's life is in danger. But her
parents, and so many others out there, see this as extremely limiting. First of all, why should it be
up to a cell phone provider if someone's life is in danger? That makes actually no sense. And second
of all, why wouldn't they just be required to release potentially life-saving information, saying that they may
do it is just not enough? And that's where the Kelsey-Smith Act comes into play. Kelsey's law
makes it so that cell phone providers shall provide customers location to law enforcement
without a warrant when someone's life is at risk of death or serious physical harm. And under this
law, it's up to law enforcement if that individual's life is in danger. And if you've listened to true
crime for any amount of time, definitely in the cases that I've covered, I almost guarantee you
that this law has likely played a role in your life. And if you've listened to true crime for
any amount of time, definitely in the cases that I've covered, I almost guarantee you that this law has likely played a role in those cases without you even knowing it. And Kelsey's parents are on a mission. They are not going to stop advocating for this law until it is passed in all 50 states and passed as federal law as well. There have been a number of setbacks over the years, but never once has it stopped them from pushing forward. They know for a fact that this law saves lives, and they wholeheartedly believe, and I do too, that making this a federal law will only continue to save more. And what's been so beautiful is it's
helped people in many different ways and scenarios that they didn't even expect. Like, for example, there was a man who had a stroke, and he wasn't able to communicate about where he was, but because of the Kelsey Smith Act, they were able to locate him before it was too late. In another instance, a car was stolen with a baby inside, and the baby was able to be recovered because of the Kelsey Smith Act. And there are countless other stories too. And this is all thanks to their parents and their efforts just
to help push for positive change. And both he and Missy have just done outstanding work over these last 18 years, and Kelsey is the inspiration behind it all. And it's crazy to say this, but Kelsey has now been gone longer than she was alive, which has been really hard on their entire family. And there are just so many milestones that they, of course, wish she had.
Her whole family is pretty confident that she probably would have gotten married to John by now, and likely would have gone on to have kids of her own. In fact, on her 16th birthday, Greg had given her this box of sentimental items, and in that box was a letter to her future husband. And after she died, he gave that letter to John, which I think just says so much about how seriously he took his daughter's relationship, how much he cares for John. It's really, um,
devastatingly beautiful. At 18 years old, Kelsey had already lived so much life, and yet still had so much life left to live, and was really just getting started. And I do believe that she's, you know, able to live on through her parents and their work, and they truly have honored her memory. As I said at the beginning of the episode, I am, of course, just amazed by Missy and Greg. I would love to connect with them. I would love to connect with you all if you happen to see this, like I said.
And we will be reaching out to see how we can show our support through the Higher Hope Foundation.
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The 2007 murder of 18-year-old Kelsey Smith, a bright and kind high school graduate, shocked her family and community, with her body discovered in Missouri woods after a suspicious car sighting and missing cell phone data.
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Kelsey’s parents founded the Kelsey Smith Foundation to promote youth safety and personal preparedness, and advocate for the Kelsey-Smith Act, now passed in 31 states, requiring cell providers to share location data without a warrant when lives are in danger.
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The Kelsey Smith Foundation, founded by her parents, promotes youth safety and preparedness, offers scholarships, distributes safety whistles, and hosts an annual golf tournament to honor Kelsey’s memory and support community awareness.
The Kelsey Smith family pushed for the Kelsey-Smith Act, which requires cell phone providers to share location data with law enforcement when someone's life is at risk, without needing a warrant. It has now been passed in 31 states.
Edwin Hall was arrested and charged with murder, rape, and kidnapping after DNA matches and surveillance footage linked him to the crime. He pleaded guilty to avoid the death penalty and was sentenced to life in prison without parole.
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