Share & Risk & Tell with Jay Jurden and Katie Nolan
47m 32s
Pablo Torre investigates a new high-THC beverage, "Hi Rider Premium THC Spirit," which delivers 100 milligrams of THC per shot, marketed as an extreme, zero-proof alternative to traditional cannabis products. The drink is promoted by former NBA player Greg Odin, with celebrity endorsements from Doug Benson, Nick Swardson, and others. Hosts express confusion and discomfort about consuming such a potent substance, with one, Jay Jordan, initially enthusiastic before withdrawing due to concerns about its effects. The episode pivots into a deeper investigation of Madison Square Garden’s internal surveillance practices, revealing a talent database that assigns risk scores to celebrities and fans based on social media activity. These scores range from "low risk" to "do not host," with individuals labeled for perceived threats—such as political dissent, fan loyalty conflicts, or controversial statements—even when their actions are harmless. Notable figures like Morgan Wallen, Freddy Gibbs, and Julia Fox are flagged, while others like Adam Palley and Pete Rock face exclusion from complimentary tickets. The report raises serious questions about the ethics of surveillance in entertainment, particularly around LGBTQIA+ visibility, which is included in the database but without visible symbols like pink triangles. The narrative juxtaposes the absurdity of a weed drink with the systemic monitoring of public figures, illustrating how power, control, and personal expression intersect in modern celebrity culture. Ultimately, the episode critiques the normalization of surveillance and the hidden hierarchies that govern access to public spaces like sports arenas.
Welcome to Pablo Torre finds out I am Pablo Torre and today we're going to find out what this sound is Tobin McGuire is a much He's a eater Right after this How's everybody doing sorry that I'm late. I came straight here Straight here from the meeting with me agent where they gave me a guy Fieri water-loo well, it's gonna do apple pie. I'll a mode. Oh my god, and I said I must try that water Considered making an apple pie great American hero guy Fieri. Yeah, isn't he he's good right? I haven't heard anything from from my food network connections. Oh, oh of which you have many Yeah, listen She's cool. The guy Fieri's my chair too well. I feel small, but I don't Right, I just don't want to lift it up and have you be like no, that's too high. What did you Google it was guy Fieri there on January 6th? That would talk about some diamonds drive-ins and dies at that at the capital Insurrection day Let's see what it's all about. Oh, let's see on on the air smell it We're finding out what guy Fieri's I listen, I like it more than you it smells like I guess it's the cream the Alamo It's your sugar. It's your calorem soda. Yeah, which I don't know apple apple pie cream soda. I know and let's see. Let's taste it. Okay Oh, no, it's like gum. Oh Oh, no, you'll hate it first. We lose to Belgium now this so So you brought things to sample and there are so many things that I was contemplating doing with you guys here today I'm excited one of which is in fact a drink to sample. Let's go Wow, I love to have a sip. I love to have a sip with Jay Jordan Oh, wait, I might be changing my mind. What are we doing? Hi rider. Is this a weed? Alcohol wait a second. Let's read it. Hi rider premium THC spirit Barry infused appears to be the flavor and then 100 milligrams per serving Listen, I'm very excited about this Pablo. Let's go. Hi dose zero proof gluten free. I don't got no shows tonight Let's do it. Let's do it. I got a dinner. I'm supposed to a hundred milligrams per two ounce shot Who is the math that is presented by the endorser which led me to bring this to you Who happens to be former pro basketball player, which is how he is introduced on the ad Greg Odin Greg Odin It's as first time consuming THC We suggest starting with one of our other high rider lower dose products Absolutely not I have bad news. I have very bad news for you. What? I'm off the weed Okay, so this is I'm very actually devastated about this. I'm off the weed till at least Thursday unless my Hydrus is watching that's great. That's great. Then I'm off the weed forever That's great my psychiatrist gave me a drug test to I assume make sure I'm taking the medication I get prescribed because a lot of people don't and then they resell it they sell it to me while doing the drug test She said ooh this tested positive for marijuana, and I said what and I went Assuming who cares? I'm high. I'm high right now I'm like of course it did and she said well I you know that interacts with your medication. I I don't feel comfortable Perscribing to you if you're and I was like well, I've been this should put your mind at ease I've been smoking weed since you've known me So it shouldn't be an issue the interaction hasn't occurred and she said I Wouldn't be able to keep prescribing you your medication if you continue to smoke so I've been pretending to not smoke weed for the last month And the hopes it'll get out of my system so I can test clean so I can get back to smoking weed So I've been not smoking for a month. I can't blow it for This so just to give the the backdrop here Greg Odin, and this is a first brought to us by Offel announcing's Ben Koo on Twitter. Shut up, Ben Koo Greg Odin is a spokesman for most potent weed beverage known to man crazy It's a hundred milligrams for a shot most weed drinks are five to twenty milligrams per can This is basically the ever clear version of weed drinks just days after a judge in Ohio reinstated their legality and The producers in the other room are saying hey, Jay Yeah, I can't wait to watch Jay drink this The producers are saying hey, I can do the tiniest baby shot, but I don't need you could taste test it Yeah, I can taste test it. I don't need one hundred millimeter nobody does the people who need what Doug Benson Doug You need Doug Benson here for this shout out comedian Doug Benson. He he put a crazy straw in this he'd go to town Maybe Nick Swardson. We're building the Mount Rushmore alongside Greg Odin so far as three faces it's Greg Odin Nick Swardson and Doug Benson. I'm thinking about the people who can handle this Now see Dan might be able to but Dan came as he doesn't drink so I don't know if a weed drink would cross Some sort of a he probably doesn't yeah, cuz I all the time in Colorado. He was just around it As always Dan Soder not Dan Levitard. Yes, sorry. I should say I'm like in bed. I turn to Dan and people go she's sleeping with Dan As someone who does Levitard with the tiniest weed gummy at my wedding and watched him go on a journey of self-discovery Wow through our wedding photos. Yeah, he would not react the same way That is first of all that that is hilarious. That is funny. Secondly, I will taste test it. Yes. I will do the tiniest taste We have shot glasses provided by high rider. All right guys. Why does it have to be milky first question? Yeah Visually for those who are only listening it is milky Yeah, I just want to say look if we're looking at color and viscosity Happy belated pride to me again Yeah, though, this is better than the alternative. We were going to do as Jay is getting ready to To taste test the alternative was to investigate Bill Simmons's colonoscopy. Yeah People wanted the footage. I heard I mean You heard about the Jalen Brown trade. Yeah, while having an actual colonoscopy Mm-hmm. The quote there. This is the other alternate way to start the episode from Bill Simmons friend of the show quote So when this trade happened at 320 Pacific time. I had a camera in my ass Nice And I had Paul George read. I had Paul George being rammed up my ass. He did say that and I was like where is he going with this? I That is not PG 13. No That's all right and we did we did a request From Bill Simmons the video of the inside of his whole isn't the podcast enough Do we have the footage? No, come on. We don't we're saying no. All right hearing that's a no. Oh thank god Okay, it does smell like berries. It better. It does smell like berries Now that's 20 milligrams right there. There's a okay the first notes weed. Yeah, the first note is a weed It's a weed forward There's a little bit more weed and then Children's medicine. Oh, it's that berry. Yes flavor. It tastes like something you would put in a syrupy Right, like a robotus and windstones vitamins. Yeah, I'm I think you're gonna have to mix this with something I think you're gonna have to like put this with like a celser or something because once again Okay, oh It's not getting better, but it's not horrible And that is something that Greg Oden can cosine. Yeah, Greg Oden. I'll say this is not the worst thing I've put in my mouth over the past couple of months. Nice. It's not the worst put that on the bottle Yeah, it's photoshopped that put that on the bottle I guess I'll get high from this later on Who's begging to get high from a drink What's the market for this for one shot to knock you on your ass from weed? I'm about to go in for my colonoscopy And I got to get right. Boy, you know, it is probably you want that third eye Folio folio dilated that's what you need Bill Imagine no, what if what if you boof this? And that's when you put it inside of your ass when you put it in Bill Simmons, that's right In like Paul George, but what if the camera footage is Paul George in a little Paul George That's a very different product a very different endorsement. That's funny. Oh my look I didn't so one thing about the on Twitter the Jalen Brown trade happening a little bit A little bit a little bit we can talk about a little bit. Hey, we can't just talk about this weed On Twitter a lot of people were being like he's being traded because he's too revolutionary. I was like Okay, he's he likes the twitch stream. He's not really like season the means of production. He's not going
He's not like, well, he is teasing the means of producing his own left. Yeah. He's not going to like the, the NBA players association be like, we got to do this kind of stuff. He's not like, actually, I don't think he was being that crazy. I just think that like, sometimes, especially with the way media and sports intersect right now is that if you say anything, everything that happens after that, we do get to say, that's why they did it. We can say, oh, that's what happened. And there might not have been the case. I think that one fundamental issue with Jaylen Brown was the Celtics had this decision when they were like, all right, so we're going to end up disagreeing with how much this guy thinks he is worth over time. Yeah. And so is this going to get harder or easier? And they decided, let's give Katie Nolan a bunch of fun draft picks in Paul George. A bunch of fun draft picks. It's like two four picks and they're not. Way with Katie missions and trade. Is that what that was? Yeah, I actually got traded. I got traded away. No, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, oh, we do have a colonoscopy. No, you don't. That's roll it. What is this about to be? If it's the **** from the bathtub, I swear to **** got to go back through a normal healthy colon that's very well prepped. And you see this bump. Oh my Lord, that pot of looks like Adam Silver's head. Pollop George. Is there anything there? Pollop George. I think there's more there than anybody who was expected. Wow. Oh, they're going to take that out. They're going to take that out. Send it to Boston with more detail. Oh my God. What is this, Pablo? What are you showing us? What's that? Is that film? Is this? I feel like we got a blur this in post. This is, I mean, this is not something I needed today. They're drying it nicely with that little pipette, though. It's doing a good job. We're going to be around the bottom piece of that, we're going to now close that snare. And the patient feels nothing of this as this is being done. Whoa, whoa. Are we seeing a pile of removal in real time? Yes, we are. Yes, we are. How close is from your dad? Where'd you get this? This is from the American College of Gaturantorology. That was like you guys showed us a pimple about to be popped, but not popped. If we were going to see the lance around the thing, I'd like to see the actual removal of the column. I thought the most graphic thing in the day would be the [bleep] weed drink. I really did. We haven't even hit our first break yet. And we went straight down in there. So I should say for the record. Why are you drinking any of it? I am doing journalism. Yeah. I tasted it. I tasted it. And it hasn't nothing. I should say that Bill Simmons said, quote, I think that violates some sort of hippo rule and, quote, when I asked for his colonoscopy video. Actually technically it does not because he's not a doctor. So if Bill Simmons wanted to send you his colonoscopy video, that wouldn't violate hippo at all. That would be a different kind of vibe. You can tell him I said that. And tell him I didn't fall for it when he said he was at Taylor Swift's wedding. I saw everybody last night going, Bill Simmons still got it. He convinced us. He was at Taylor Swift. No, he didn't. It was so obvious he was lying. What are we doing, everybody? Reading conference. I saw someone last night who was at the wedding, I think. Nikki. Nikki Laser. She was doing some time at the stand and I walked in and she was on stage in the upstairs room because she was run to a different set. That's her. She looked great. Very funny stuff. She looked very normal. She didn't talk about it. So I have also, I've been, I've been doing some, some, some, some, are you finding out? I'm trying to find out. Who's there? Hey. That guest list is great. What it was like. Who's your favorite person on the guest list? Oh, I don't know. I have one and I think it's shared by others. Who? Dean Blan Dino. Oh, yeah, okay. I brought him up because I was like, what the f**k? You know who Dean Blan Dino is? NFL rules experts. Fox NFL rules. It used to be the head of breath for the NFL. Also dipped his toe in stand-up comedy. This is it? Yes he did. Yes he did. Yes he did. Has a tight five. But former. You may have. Not associated with a league anymore. He's not a former rep. No, no, no, if you were still current, would it be allowed? I don't know why not. I'm not. That's a great experience. Can we go to weddings? I don't know. That would be weird to invite one. Certainly. Because then you're kind of like, hey man. Yeah. And as you move in. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The minute they're mined up. Hey man. I brought you my wet. It shows how bad I am with conflicts of interest now in sports where I just go like, well, everybody can do everything. I don't see why that'd be a problem. You can't. I don't see these issues. You can't bring her in. It's like Sean Hockeyley was that. Yeah. Yeah. That is a massive thing. And it's kind of like inviting the entire hosts of Good Morning America to your wedding. It's like, why would you do that if not to have them discuss your wedding? And I mean, what they closed off all of the garden except for all of the pictures that we saw on the inside. So who was leaking the stuff? And I also feel like it's AI. Like I don't know what anything is real or not. There's a bunch of big stuff. But then there is some stuff that's real. I think so. And real, according to my ongoing reporting is that this thing went to like 5 a.m. And there was karaoke. Okay. In that room is crazy. If you get up there and you're not a singer, and in front of all those people to sing. And I was asking like, so who's who was who was like the karaoke MVP? And the response was besides Taylor. Okay. Of course. Of course. Of course. As you should respect for the bride. Early Fergie was awesome. I don't believe that. But I think she was really good at singing. I think she was really good at singing. I would think at least fake it. People online, it's like, here's a thing. The way the internet has become so segmented now, it's like, you can be served the stuff that makes you mad. I know I personally actively go, I'm going down a road that's going to affect my algorithm.
it's back up, like all of the things Diana has, they wanted her vote taken away for the NFL awards. There are communities that are fully still every day, posting about this drama. - What? - Like when is the NFL gonna take action? And it's, they're not rooted in reality, but those are actual people that are alive that are still this invested in this drama. - You know what those people need? - Yes. - They need some power out and one very infused, premium THC spirit. Hide those, zero proof, good and free. (upbeat music) - How are you feeling by the way, anything with this? - Yeah, no. - What if you did a little bit more? - I can't drink any more of the weed, (beep) and I'm gonna keep calling at that. - Come on. - Oh. - What is that? - It's crazy. - That crazy. - It's crazy I'd be doing it with you. I genuinely, I feel bad. I would be doing it with you, I just-- - No, no, no, no. - Doctor's a bitch. - Doctor. (laughs) - Let's be having fun. - I think your tip of a violation is-- - She goes, "Why are you smoking weed?" And I just looked at her and I said, "Because?" - "Because." - What do you mean, why? You could have a reason? - Oh my God, sometimes why am I smoking weed? - I'm smoking weed, so I can relax at the end of the day. - And then you also did the Elphaba run in response. (laughs) - And you get super high. (laughs) She wearing green, but that's perfect. - Oh, thank you. It was also falsetto, I cheated. - All right, I suppose that I should acknowledge that part of the throughline in all of this is that we are living in something of a surveillance state. - Yes. - We're always being watched. And as we discuss, as we're a garden in this wedding and watching who's going in and who's going out, I do want to point out that what I have been reviewing here without your knowledge is an exclusive first look at a new story that is publishing. On the same day as this episode, over at wire.com, because we collaborated here at Publicory Finds Out on an investigation into the deep state of surveillance at Madison Square Garden. - Oh, yes, yes, I've heard about this. - Co-written by Noah Shackman, the story does detail that there was a trans person at the center of, at least one chapter of that story. And so this follow up reveals the existence of a database. And this database is part of a much larger trove of documents published last month by a hacker collective. So I'm not co-signing the hacking or the hacker collective, but they're known as shiny hunters. 404 Media was the first to break the news on that hack. And the VIP list that has been released, I do want to share with you guys. And I should also, for legal reasons, read from wires new article, quote, a class action lawsuit claims that this spail of private data was a byproduct of Dolan's growing surveillance state. A representative for the garden did not respond to a request to comment and quote. And we here at Publicory Finds Out reached out to MSG for a previous episode, aforementioned with wired. And they gave a statement that the magazine's reporting was, quote, "built on false misleading uninverified allegations, including claims drawn from lawsuits filed by rapacious litigators." And quote, "Rapacious." But what we have here today, as we go deep into this reporting, is new insight about the extent to which MSG has labeled. It's frankly loyal celebrity fans with a risk score. - Whoa! - And reportedly why? We are now presenting this level of detail about the 39,540 or so entries in the so-called talent database. 39,000, which tracks bold face names and business technology, politics, media, and sports, along with their guests. - Wait, so none of us made it 'cause they didn't reach out to me for comment. - Charz Oakley, is he just on a piece of paper by itself? This is, no! (laughs) - What they have here in this system is about 400 celebrities assigned a risk score. And if you're wondering, what is the scale like? - Yeah. - Well, the first, we'll start in-- - Least risky. - Exactly, right? It's called just flag, you're flagged. - Okay. - Least serious. It's an indication to discuss the VIP with a supervisor. And then you go up one level and you get to actually a tier on which five of the publicly identified attendees at Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey's MSG wedding were marked. This is low risk. - Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, I wanna guess something. - Okay, so these are people who, they're in the MSG system, but they were also invited to the wedding by Taylor or by MSG. - Well, they were, I believe, invited by the happy couple. - Okay, but they-- - And threats to them, by the way. - Yeah, I'm so, I'm so happy. - Then they're finding you to (beep) as beautiful. - Yeah. - Finally, yeah. - That's wonderful. - Yeah. - People don't wait no more. - Her music, she comes out, her music is completely different. - Yeah, it is, it is, it's finally. - Taylor Swift sounds like the weekend now. (laughs) That's what everyone said. The fate of a failure, everyone was like, oh, you don't get it, he's really a (beep) now, we can get, Taylor, if you're listening, I know she listens. You know, if you wanna win me back, make some, make some nasty ass music, make some city girl music, Taylor Swift, make some (beep) and strip club music, that's what I want. - Make some polyp excising. - Yes, totally. - Yeah, some in the butt music. In the butt. - Okay, so five guests that were invited are the second tier of risks. So, who has been marked as low risk among the, approximately 1,000 reported attendees at this wedding? Ice spice, okay. - Oh, hey. - New York, I love that, give her. Well, she's been kissing to her, why? - You did. - What the (beep) is that about? - She was kissing to her. - What? - Have you heard of (beep) - A lot of you, I'm learning from Pablo. - Her, her. - Her rep says they were sharing a vape. - Oh, I like that. - But that is not what that looks like. - Also, to her, why are you vaping in 50 to be? - He's doing a lot of things. - Toby, Toby McGuire with Ice Spice. That's like a super-New York thing to do. - Yeah. - Is to kiss Ice Spice. - Yeah. - Can you imagine kissing Ice Spice while you're upside down? - See. - That's what I'm saying. They should have done that. If you're going to kiss Spider-Man at least. - At the White Party, that's what's up. Make up for her. - Can you imagine that sentence five years ago of like, just Ice Spice and Toby McGuire kissed at Michael Rubin's body? - Why is it? - Even crazier, imagine knowing this sentence, Toby McGuire is a munch. He's a eater. - Allegedly? - Allegedly? Organic webbing is all over the place. - Okay, so Ice Spice is low risk. And when we say low risk again, it's kind of a misnomer because it is the second level of risk in the system. - Ice Spice was at the wedding. Okay. Selena Gomez. - Okay. - Yes. - Yes. - Yes. - Was she risky? - We don't know. - No. - She's brand safe as hell? - No, I know what it is, was Selena. 'Cause if Selena comes, then Benny Blanco's gonna come and then they will have to pull her that. 'Cause you don't want to put that in front of the kids. Don't know if I need to see all that all the time. - True. - Benson Boone. - Benson Boone. - Yeah. - Speaking of guys who flip. - Yes. - Yes. Once again, a risk. We don't know-- - He tumbles for ya. - Yeah. - Yeah. - I should clarify that what we do know about the list as a concept is that, this is what Wired Magazine says, according to a source of knowledge of the matter, they say that Garden Security has performed a social media sweep for prominent people looking for complimentary tickets to games. Free ticks. If you're a celebrity and you're marked with a risk score, even as a low risk, it means, quote, "You've done something in the publicity world, "the social media world that has caught the attention "of the wrong people," end quote. And so this talent database has entries dating back to December of 2020 and includes updates as recent as early June of this year. Whoa. - I hate that they do that. - So, prominent people are looking for complimentary tickets and they do a full social media call and ask. - But they're so famous that is the sweep just like their music and their movies. - We cannot speak to their judgments. - What did Benson Boone tweet back in the day that his old tweets are coming back up? - Yeah, I feel like. - For what Instagram posts caught the eyes of Gendel and Security for us? - This is crazy, who else? Michael Strahan. - Flagged. - All right. - So what? - And the fifth member of the Swift Kelsey Five, actor, Mariska Hargote. - Wait. - Whoa. - That doesn't make any sense. - Nick's royalty, Mariska Hargote. - Now here's where I would agree with James Dolan. - Okay. - Would be if they flagged her because she spent a lot of time with the Lakers and I would be annoyed by that if it were my team and you were coming in here being a Nick's fan and you were like just five days ago rooting for the Lakers. - Well, one of the things that you learn as you go through this list is that a lot of the super fans from like the parade, they got tagged as low risk, the second highest of the rankings. So for instance, Edie Falco, also on there. - Okay. - Crazy Morgan. - Also on there. - Let's because every time Tracey Morgan talks, he threatens the (beep) and somebody, he always like, you know, I don't pull out. Like every Tracey Morgan interview, he's talking to everyone. - He did threaten to impregnate the Statue of Liberty. - Exactly. 'Cause he's old school, he don't pull out. Katie, I don't know if he knows. - Oh, he's old school. - I didn't know he doesn't pull out. - Even Ben Stiller, okay, got flagged. So everyone has some form of risk. I would assume then. - Who's spotless, who has no risk? - No Timothy Schiller.
He not goes away. I don't think he went to the wedding. Let's go to medium risk. Okay. Oh, oh, we get I didn't know What up? I I like this me too. This is a fun game. What if you took another tiny What are you legally advised by the producers behind the glass to say don't do that Jay. Oh, don't take another little sin Well, you know, hey, it still tastes like weed nice medium risk The actor Lily Allen whoa, okay, and her ex David harbor actor. We're doing actor. We're going to singer. Yeah Actress, do you know who Lily Allen is? I believe she's an English singer songwriter. Did you know actress? Oh, okay fair I mean what was she in probably like? That husband that husband he's high risk. Yeah, that husband. Oh, they have us. He's a medium risk. He's a medium risk He's a medium. He was a high risk. That's crazy if he's high if he's if she's medium risk. He's high risk Hey, cuz you get David harbor and he missed it. He gonna try to fuck her about it. Hmm Allegedly Morgan Wallen Yeah, that's high risk to me. That's high risk. Don't invite him and I can't believe how many people are just Loudly like I love Morgan. I thought we were I thought we shamed that You put a microphone in for the Morgan Wallet. He's saying some stuff. You put a chair on the balcony in front of Morgan Wallet He's throwing some stuff. Let's that's he's medium risk higher risk from Morgan. Well, that's a hot pink center is medium risk That's Crazy to me Morgan Wallen Conday Nast chief content officer Anna win tour. Oh, yeah, medium risk. That's crazy. Imagine me like Anna win tour and Morgan Wallen are the same risk. Now here's the craziest one to me. Mm-hmm is I think this is this is this is shocking Fat Joe. Yeah, mm-hmm Shocking let me explain shocking because he could not have been more complimentary of James Dolan during this whole next championship run I believe he compared James Dolan to Batman. Don't do that. He was so So effusive about how awesome Jim Dolan has been to him and what Apparently according to why it's reporting apparently the reason why fat Joe was flagged is because of his connection of one of my favorite people In both the world of music and in podcasting jadekiss. Yeah Who had been critical of Dolan in the past? Oh, so being critical of James Dolan can get you higher up on this list Absolutely. Okay. That's what it is not actual connections to crimes or anything This is entirely apparently. Yes a scan of what you've said in the past and your posts One quote that is relevant to our understanding is quote. It seems like he's always happier Keep being James Dolan. Mm-hmm. Always happier when the team sucks. That's what jadekiss said back in 2020 So let's doing this is already put in us This is how you know I've never requested. I mean they're not considered a celebrity or I've never asked for free tickets for MSG I'm at the top We're never we're never again free tickets after we keep talking about never said a nice thing about him in my life I couldn't find that you went to a shot of high riders together. I Will say that Jay Jordan is wearing a Nick's cap. Yeah Yeah, yeah, and as our own scan of Jay's social media accounts has Indicated very pro Nick's you did right recently. Yes, quote Nick's one exclamation point show your dick's son You also wrote in all caps James Dolan. I did write that. That did happen. Oh oops. I probably In the in the hey man, you looking so handsome since I'm trying to James Dolan. This is sad what you're doing. Yeah, I don't like what you're doing. I'm terrible of me to put that What was that on Twitter or something? Yeah, I'll catch you say. Yeah Do we have that changed Jordan because I feel like that could be AI. Have we talked about this? You said it after shortly after James Dolan's White House visit announcement. Oh, okay, that that's yeah, I mentioned it. Yeah You also said quote. I think it's beautiful that everyone in New York City loves the next almost as much as they hate James Dolan. I did say that That did some numbers. That did well. I think and don't blame him blame blame The high rider premium THC spirit. It wasn't me. It was the Greg Odin juice Blame it on the ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha rider He's a game. Oh sure sure Jay, why did you tweet quote Shabuzy Nigerian ask and said shit about ice three question marks. Yeah, that's that's true That's true. You could ask him that in person for that brand or whatever. I mean, I've just I've started to realize that my power On Twitter say we're making laughs so much Pablo. What are you fine? What are you saying? There are people still playing the god damn Shabuzy song in Texas I'm gonna scream upside down smiley face. The song is what what is that song three years old? What is it? What's that called? Oh, so is it was already a song? He deep fried Jake Juan. I know So he deep fried it and put some Nashville hot chicken seasoning on it And then he wanted to pretend like it was his own song as much as I love interpolation and covers It's the same song I agree. I think a lot of people pay for people to do that That's what I'm saying man Yeah, I agree. Well, you know shout out James Dolan. I could never respect Shabuzy the man only got famous from a country fried version of a Jake Juan song Thank you. Who said that? Is he wrong? Is the question like was that wrong? No, yeah controversial maybe but wrong no you also have a Paragraphy wrote after Shabuzy got the people magazine a guy summer issue. Oh, no, what does that? This is one of the worst covers ever seen in my entire life It looks so ridiculously photoshopped to the point that it would be funny if it was intentional also Shabuzy You have to get your team to approve final images. This makes you look bad period. It does just a series of like actual advice Yeah, get your team to prove the fine. Look at the image. The image is probably bad get the select show Katie the image He looks like he's farting. That's one. It's bad. That's his eyes are like half-clone They send you final edits of things. You go do the one where I have my eyes open Do the one where it doesn't it probably is a little teapot Can they team up and get Shabuzy the foosie? Just the foosie just just I said it returning us to The high risk. Yeah. Yeah. Hi risk We have three names. You will maybe notice that there is a shared commonality in the three names of available to share with you They are Freddy Gibbs. Okay. The baby and a boogie with the hoodie Well now I'm seeing only rappers. Yeah, I'm here in the names of only black adult men who happen to be rappers Mm-hmm, whatever the case may be. Oh, Freddy Gibbs that I'm able to get with the hoodie Nick's fan Freddie Gibbs. I don't think Freddie Gibbs is a Nick's fan Who else with who was the other was the baby the baby is definitely a Charlotte Hornets fan famously. Yeah, so I mean, I don't get the The baby actually recently opened up a chicken waffles restaurant in Charlotte. That's what I'm saying He's like a huge he's from Charlotte. He's a huge Charlotte Hornets fan. I don't understand why he would He's I mean if he comes to the garden He's usually going to be rooting against the Nick or he's just going to be kind of neutral. Well, hi risk. Didn't he have a Yeah, he had a bad situation where at one time at a concert. He kind of like he told everyone that I don't know. Second was bad and is there still a dog baby and a little baby? Yes Yes, yes, and okay, I just want to make sure. Thank you for getting me caught up of course The quote from the baby was at rolling out if you didn't show up today with HIV aides any of them deadly sexually transmitted diseases That'll make you die in two three weeks then put your cell phone light up. Well up goes my cell phone light up He continues. Yeah, it is if you're putting smell like water put a cell phone light Now I get my phone's going down I don't know I just miss me sheepishly in the back The baby is making his way never have I ever what it doesn't really smell like Like flowers, so I guess I'll take my phone down What's it and what's he continues? Yeah, and then he gets to fellas if you ain't sucking in the parking lot ain't sucking dick in the parking lot Put your cell phone light up put your cell phone light. Oh, no, I'm not sucking The parking lot put your well, obviously right now none of us My phone is there we go. Hey, no, that was that was minutes ago. Now is he against the parking lot or the gay? I think I think he probably is against the gay I think the parking lot for some reason he wanted there to be an immediacy to it Because he can't be like if you never it, right, I guess he said he said ladies if you're putting smell like water at rolling loud when everyone's outside in that Heat a lot of cell phones going down. I should say that there is another level
which isn't technically on the scale, but is labeled very definitively as do not host. - Whoa, do not host. So these people will never get complimentary tickets. They always have to pay for their tickets. - So according to the reporting, one name, for instance, is comedian and longtime Nick's Obsessive fan, Adam Palley. - What? - Not to be hosted. - He's so nice. - You know, this is because of Come Town. - Clearly, or maybe because Adam's in his journalist bag right now. - Oh, no, you're thinking of Adam Friedland. - Adam Palley. - Adam Palley. - Adam Palley. - It's not all Adam's. - What's the name of the show? - Happy ending. - Happy ending. - ABC, my good friend, Adam Palley. - Adam Palley. - Oh my God. - How could possibly Adam Palley-- - Wait, does Adam know this? - Dude, I don't know if he knows this. - Adam Palley is a higher risk than Morgan Wallen. - Yeah, okay. - Yeah. - Do we have other do-not hosts in here? - We have iconic hip-hop producer Pete Rock. - Okay. - He was a fan of the team according to Instagram account, but nonetheless do-not-host. And then, I wanna show you the next name on screen. Because it is. Actress model Julia Fox. - Julia Fox. - Well, I should say that. So, in the spring of 2020. - Do-not-host. - Julia Fox, I'm good. - The court side in this allegedly quite revealing outfit. By early April, she was barred from getting complimentary tickets. - Not really that revealing to me. - They got mad about this. This is merely the timeline. Assigning motive is very difficult for legal reasons. - Okay. I mean, Pablo, really good stuff that one. - I'm confused. I did see a game where this was, but this was a, I guess, crypto arena where Lizzo and her booty cheeks out. - I remember that. - She got to see it, of course, that is because the cheeks might have been out a bit. - Yeah, I remember that. - Julia Fox can have the cheeks out a little bit in the MSG. She's got a coat. You can sit on the coat. - Yeah. - You can sit on the coat. - I imagine she's on the risk list because she speaks her mind. It's, it is a, and if you're just listening, we will say, she's got a brief, a full brief on the bottom, a white brief. And then on top, a high neckline tank. - Yeah. - So it's, and there's a little bit of midriff showing between the tank and the brief, but she's also got a huge, what appears to be some sort of a fur, big bird, yellow coat. - Yes. - That would not call this very revealing. - Yeah. - I'm not leaving the house in a brief. - It is. - That's me. - Okay, so the bottom section is very underwear-esque. And so is James Dolen that conservative that this would be to revealing of an outfit? - A question that should be phrased as a question. - I'm impressed though, because it's this list, if you say or do anything, you will never get the complimentary tickets to the game is basically what stipulated. - This is the people who MSG felt the need to monitor. - Okay. - Because maybe they're not going to do what we want them to do in exchange for the things that we might give them. - I feel like every time you learn something sort of about fame and celebrity and what it means to like move up through the ranks of the entertainment industry, you go high school again. - Oh, there are lists. - It's all lists all the way down. - This is a burn book. This is signing yearbooks. This is passing notes in class. - There is also in this talent database an interesting other feature that we should describe. - Yes. - Because 93 entries are marked as LGBTQIA. - What? - Wait, can I just say pretty nice from doing "Clude the I.L." You wouldn't have thought that James Dolan would know that. - They said, come here, James, for a second. What are we going to do about the intersex and asexual view? - All right, make sure they're on there too. - Just make sure they're also discriminated against equally nice. - Yeah, hey, hey. - Allegedly. - Is Julia Fox labeled as LGBTQIA? She should be. - Here are some folks who are. - Okay. - Phoebe, they're all out before you read for this. - No, no, no, no, no, no, no. - Let's not out anybody. (laughing) - Phoebe Bridgers. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Geese's Emily. - Say the letter. (laughing) - Yes, the letter. - Okay. Geese's Emily Green. - Okay. - Ricky Martin. - Ricky Martin, yeah. Is it just so these people get prioritized announcements about Nick's Pride night? - I bet not. - Is it? - That is an amazing. - It's a sweet interpretation. - Okay, but okay, so the MSG labels, some of these tears is LGBTQIA. - They have 93 entries are marked as LGBTQIA. - 93, that's a lot. - Who wants a lot? - I don't like this. - Paul, they don't have a pink triangle next to the names, do they? - Not to our knowledge. - Okay, good. - I think that labeling them and the history of what they did to that trans individual, now I'm starting to see some weird stuff. The lists and the existence of such secret lists and how many people are on them and what they're following. - I think they raise at the very least follow-up questions from people who might wanna deeply care about how your favorite sports team thinks of its fans. - Now are all of the arenas penopticons or just Madison Square Garden? - Sorry, it is not another J-Tweet. - Yes! - Wait, I kind of love this. - The reason I don't love Taylor Swift is because truthfully, I only have room for one messy white woman pop star in my life and her name is Aubrey Graham. - Yeah, yeah, that's true. About Drake, that's beautiful. - That's funny. - Recently, I even said Drake is, he's Taylor Swift for so many boys. - Oh, really? - Really? - He's seen three albums and every boy's like, you don't understand the impact this has. - This has also been said of Shane Gillis' Taylor Swift for boys, yeah. - Oh my goodness, that's what stadiums at the same time. - Everyone's kind of like in and out of their relationship. Drop down. - That's good. What would I say about Taylor Swift today? I'm happy she's married. I want to, where is she on this list? She's not, she's not risk at all. - If nothing else, it seems like she is above all of us. - Did she have to go to James Dolan to get his blessing to marry the stadium? - Oh, here's something that I can report, I guess. James Dolan was out there wetting. - Oh yeah, yeah. - What did he sit with the ice detention center guy? (laughing) 'Cause I've been wondering who that guy had to share a table with that guy. And now it's starting to make a lot of sense. - Who among us hasn't invited an ice contractor to our wedding? - Right. (upbeat music) - This has been Pablo Torre finds out. A metal-like media production, and I'll talk to you next time. (upbeat music)
Podcast Summary
Key Points:
Pablo Torre investigates a new high-THC beverage, "Hi Rider Premium THC Spirit," marketed as a potent, zero-proof weed drink with 100 milligrams per shot.
The drink is promoted by Greg Odin, a former pro basketball player, and features a celebrity endorsement lineup including Doug Benson, Nick Swardson, and Adam Palley.
The episode highlights a controversy over the drink’s extreme potency, with hosts expressing strong discomfort and concern about its consumption and effects.
A deeper investigation reveals that Madison Square Garden maintains a "talent database" that assigns risk scores to celebrities and fans based on social media activity, including political, cultural, and fan-related content.
The database flags individuals for perceived threats to the team, such as critical social media posts or affiliations with opposing teams or ideologies, with varying levels of risk from low to "do not host."
The list includes notable figures like Morgan Wallen, Freddy Gibbs, and Julia Fox, with some being flagged for controversial or outspoken views, while others are excluded entirely from complimentary tickets.
The reporting suggests systemic surveillance and discrimination within sports venues, where personal expression and identity—especially LGBTQIA+ visibility—are monitored and potentially punished.
The episode ties the weed drink and celebrity surveillance together as part of a broader cultural narrative about power, control, and the commodification of fame in public spaces.
Summary:
Pablo Torre investigates a new high-THC beverage, "Hi Rider Premium THC Spirit," which delivers 100 milligrams of THC per shot, marketed as an extreme, zero-proof alternative to traditional cannabis products. The drink is promoted by former NBA player Greg Odin, with celebrity endorsements from Doug Benson, Nick Swardson, and others. Hosts express confusion and discomfort about consuming such a potent substance, with one, Jay Jordan, initially enthusiastic before withdrawing due to concerns about its effects.
The episode pivots into a deeper investigation of Madison Square Garden’s internal surveillance practices, revealing a talent database that assigns risk scores to celebrities and fans based on social media activity. These scores range from "low risk" to "do not host," with individuals labeled for perceived threats—such as political dissent, fan loyalty conflicts, or controversial statements—even when their actions are harmless. Notable figures like Morgan Wallen, Freddy Gibbs, and Julia Fox are flagged, while others like Adam Palley and Pete Rock face exclusion from complimentary tickets.
The report raises serious questions about the ethics of surveillance in entertainment, particularly around LGBTQIA+ visibility, which is included in the database but without visible symbols like pink triangles. The narrative juxtaposes the absurdity of a weed drink with the systemic monitoring of public figures, illustrating how power, control, and personal expression intersect in modern celebrity culture. Ultimately, the episode critiques the normalization of surveillance and the hidden hierarchies that govern access to public spaces like sports arenas.
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The High Rider premium THC spirit is a potent weed beverage with 100 milligrams of THC per 2-ounce shot, making it one of the strongest THC drinks available. It's marketed as a powerful alternative to traditional weed drinks, which typically contain only 5 to 20 milligrams of THC per can.
Greg Odin is a former professional basketball player who is a spokesperson for the High Rider THC spirit. He is known for promoting the drink, and his endorsement adds credibility and attention to the product, especially given his background in sports.
The controversy involves medical concerns, as a doctor advised the speaker to stop smoking weed due to potential interactions with prescribed medication. The speaker was tested and found positive for marijuana, leading to a medical restriction on continued use.
Madison Square Garden maintains a talent database that tracks celebrities and their guests, assigning them a risk score based on social media activity and public behavior. This system flags individuals who have drawn attention from 'the wrong people,' even if they are low-risk.
Celebrities like Morgan Wallen, Freddy Gibbs, and the 'Baby' (a Charlotte Hornets fan) are flagged as high risk. Others, like Fat Joe, were flagged due to past criticism of James Dolan, showing that online opinions can impact risk assessments.
Yes, the database includes 93 entries marked as LGBTQIA+, though there is no visible pink triangle next to their names. This suggests a formal inclusion, though the exact reasons or implications remain unclear and may reflect broader biases.
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