Shameik Moore is Breeze in Power, Miles Morales in Spider-Verse + Raekown EP 83 | The Crew Has It

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I'm going to go to the bathroom right now. Last one to the airport buys breakfast. Buying breakfast. Day one, day one. All right, let's start this episode off. We got Shameik Moore in the building. Bro, I'm going to be honest, I'm a fan. Thank you, bro. I'm a fan. Dope movie. So I moved to L.A. to become an actor, and Dope movie was one of the first movies that I saw when I was like, "I'm taking this shit so seriously," and I loved it. What year did that come out? '17? Yeah, one of those. I think it was '15. Yeah, 'cause that was the year I moved to L.A., so that was one of the first ones I saw. So when you got that, you auditioned for that, correct? Yeah, I did. Was that one of your first bigger things, or had you been working prior to that? I worked prior to it. I think that was the moment that changed my trajectory. But yeah, that was the moment. Hell yeah. For sure. And when you read that script, did you feel like it was going to be as big as it was, or you had no idea? I don't think I cared. Yeah, you just wanted to work. Yeah, I wanted to work, and Pharrell's name was in it. That was all that. And then I read the script, and it was a good script. I really saw myself in the role. I wasn't thinking about box office or nothing like that. I was thinking about just proving to myself and taking it to the next level. It's just a leading role, number one on the call sheet movie. That was all it was about. Did the box office crush for that? We did, like $20 million. The budget on that probably wasn't that. That was probably great. It was a $5 million budget. And it probably did well in streaming. That's 4X. You can't come on that one. Who mad at 4X? There ain't one nigga mad at 4X and the bread. That's a good return, young man. You number one. You was a part of that. That's hilarious. So who were your co-stars in that? Was it Zoe Kravitz? Zoe Kravitz. Oh, yeah. Amen Joseph was in that too, wasn't he? Amen Joseph was in there. Of course, Flacco was in there. Quincy was in there. We had Kiersey Clemons. Fire. I was staying with Kiersey at the time. And you shot that all in LA? All in LA, yeah. It was a four-week shoot. And it was fast. You shot the whole movie in four weeks? Oh, yeah, yeah. I mean, it's an independent film. Oh, that makes it even doper. No pun intended. No pun intended. Side note, I love Zoe Kravitz. Oh, my God. She's the best. Yeah, she's fire. But yeah, dude. All right. That's awesome. So that movie comes out. And then what was your next thing right after that? After that was The Get Down. Oh, word. Yeah. Fire. Yeah, yeah. And how was that? I mean, it was the first Netflix original. Damn. Wait, it was? Yeah. The first Netflix original movie? No, show. Yeah, yeah. The Get Down was a show. So Stranger Things. Oh, shit. The Get Down. And there was one more. House of Cards. House of Cards. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, damn. So y'all started this. You started this barbecue business. Oh, my mama. That's crazy. And so I've never seen that. What is that about? I mean, I know it's huge. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But what was-- No, it's the origins of hip hop. Oh, fire. Yeah. So in the '70s, how they took disco music. They started scratching it up. I played Shaolin Fantastic. And he basically, he was selling product through the disco scene, and he was a part of the Get Down, what they call hip hop, these parties. I saw a young buck, I took him under the wings, and I exposed them to hip hop, essentially. So I was the first bad boy of hip hop, selling, moving weight, and going to parties. That shit was good, bro. It was real good. You gotta check it. I gotta watch it. Everybody's in that, too. A lot of people is in that. Yeah, yeah. It's hard to watch everything. Back then, I was so poor. I'm just trying to work. I didn't even have streaming services or anything. And I also remember from, did you see Dope? Of course I saw Dope, bro. I don't know, bro. I don't know what you watched. I'm black, Johnny. In case you didn't notice. I noticed. You watch Drake videos. That's kind of the only thing you watch, is Drake music videos. Well, hey, Iceman was amazing. New shit was fire, right? Like, we're gonna just say that. I'm gonna throw that out there on the pod. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's hard to watch everything, you know? I'm like, just trying to work. I'm gonna say that. Hey, man, fuck all these people, Drake. They did you wrong. You made them pay. You did everything. You made them remember. You made them do everything. That's fair. All right, back to the pod. Sorry. That's fair. That's fair. So, that was the first time I had ever heard of Bitcoin. Yeah. Oh. Bitcoin was $2 back then. I didn't think about that. Yeah. Bitcoin was $2. Had you heard about Bitcoin before that? No. Yeah, see, I did because I used to live a different life. Like, I used to be a scammer. Yeah, yeah. So, I knew about Bitcoin. Yeah. Yeah. And that was the whole theme in the movie right there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, dope. Like, that's how we had the movie. I know a little bit about it. It's like, if those dark web websites didn't get taken down, I'd probably have so much Bitcoin in the wallet just chilling. I saw a dope movie and I was like, "I don't know if this virtual money thing is like. " That was one thing I was like, "I couldn't really get behind." And then, like, three years later, it's like the biggest thing of all time. They blew up. They were ahead of the curve. They knew what they were doing. They were. Shout out to them writers. They knew what was going on. Yeah. So, they didn't have to make it up. You know what I mean? Right. It was happening. Did you start getting recognized after those two projects came out? Or was it not? Yeah. Yeah, you were? Yeah, yeah. And how did that feel? I mean, I'm a Jamaican raised man, but I'm born and raised in Atlanta, but my entire village is Jamaican. So, I'm like first generation. And so, being in any kind of, I'm as grounded as I can be, while also somehow being, you know, hard to digest sometimes. So, I think more so I'm, at that moment, I'm realizing people even care about me. And I'm like, oh shit. Like, you know, I'm getting interviews and I'm starting to become something, which was like the growing up process. It went from showing what I'm capable of and my talent defining who I am internally and externally. Like, you see me, I'm going to start dancing, I'm going to play you my music, I'm going to go get in this field. This is what I'm working on type of thing. But now, move to New York, you know, now people are noticing me as the get down and I'm, like I said, the get down is like Nas involved and like Baz Luhrmann, you start getting all these names. Jaden Smith is in the get down and whatnot. So, my whole world, I'm moving around New York with Flaco and the whole ASAP mob. I'm like learning New York and myself, and it's like not about your talent at all in these rooms now. It's about your talent. Now you're dealing with people with bags and women and like, you know, drugs and the whole lifestyle of it. And when you're not really, like, I feel like as people was meeting me at that time, I'm really trying to find myself. And only recently, I think in like the last four years of my mindset kind of switched about it. Like, yeah. What did you feel? What was difficult around that time? Like when you were in those rooms? Like, did you feel uncomfortable? Did you feel, did you feel like you deserve to be there? Like what, what was your thought process in those rooms? Um, man, I'm a, I'm an extremely confident brother and I really, uh, I only like kneel or like bow or like there's certain brothers that demand my respect because I can learn so much from them and I think in those rooms, I realized that I might rub certain people the wrong way when it's not that person I respect in that way. If that makes sense. Like I might be somewhere and I'm building, but I'm not really, I might meet the, I don't really know. Like, I don't know who they are. He could be a stylist and I'm like, yo, what's up? What's going on? Doom. And that person might want to have a longer conversation, but I'm not really there for that. I'm, and I have to learn like it's those small things because now they care about what you do and what you think is like, damn, I didn't want to engage in. Haha. I can't. I'm, you know, but now I'm realizing if I don't do that or if I'm like really just to myself naturally, I can't be that way in these rooms for real. Sometimes. it'll spin back on you you feel me um or like how i felt was like still misunderstood like i'm finding myself in these rooms yeah do you prefer like do you how do you feel about your anonymity being gone now like because that was one thing that was hard for me because like especially with the power universe we didn't even get into that yet but we will we're gonna get there um i remember i sat with the showrunner after before after we were done with season one and he told me he's like yo chris go do anything go take that walk at 1 30 a.m yeah go sit in a movie theater by yourself with nobody with you and just chill and enjoy the fact that nobody knows who you are yet yeah he was like because when this show comes out before power yeah this is so funny he's done like three seasons of ballers nobody knows who you are i was just that's the difference between the guest star and our series regular and the difference between power bro you've done like nine shows he's like chris no one knows no one knows you yet but they will let you hit that's basically what he told me and that's that's how i felt but in the moment i didn't really think nothing of it i was just like yeah whatever man all right it ain't that big of a deal but then when that shit hit and i did realize that my anonymity was gone it's like i miss having it like i miss being able to just stand outside and not have to have full fit on like you know what i'm saying i miss just like looking rough and rugged no haircut i don't care i'm standing outside just chilling it's been nobody bothering me you still look like that chris um so no yeah yeah realistically like how how was that how did that feel like did you like it did you hate it some people like fame i like the perks of it sometimes you know obviously the shitty things are the shitty things but yeah yeah yeah i think the shitty things kind of outweigh the positive sometimes in my frequency um and i really work on making sure that's not the case yeah just behind because i'm you know i i can go so much harder but i feel like you know like i said Like, relatability is really what I work on as a person. Eminen- say it again? Rob Markman: Anonymity. You got me fucking hooked. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Rob Markman: You're doing fucking tongue twisters on this show because of Chris. Yeah, yeah. To me, like, you know, I do everything I want to do and don't have a problem. I move around with no security most of the time. Rob Markman: That's right. You feel me? And if people wanted to say what's up, they say what's up, but I move like, you know, how I'm moving. Nothing's stopping my moving. How I'm moving. You feel me? Rob Markman: Hell yeah. When you do the Get Down, what was the next thing after that? Spider-Verse. Rob Markman: Wow. Jump straight into it. Oh, nigga, what? Talk about a three-peat. Rob Markman: Yeah. Hell yeah. Bow, bow, bow. I'm telling you, Wheezy, out of here. Rob Markman: All right, guys. We're going to take a quick break from the episode. We're going to talk to you about our friends at PrizePix. 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I think I watched it. It was you talking on Kyson at his show. You were talking about how you manifested it. You read the book, The Secret. Speak of my language, I literally have a chain made the book, The Secret. I love it. Word. Word. How did you do it? What was your process of manifesting it to getting the role, to it coming out? I want to hear all about that. It was dope. When I was. Like I said, I was staying with Kiersey, and we got another homie named Kofi, and it was really their. Like an actor's apartment, for real, and I was staying on the couch upstairs, and yeah, we all auditioned, and me and her booked it, and so she brought up this book, this journal, so I wrote. The first thing in the journal I wrote was, "I am Miles Morales. I am Spider-Man," and at that time, we was listening to The Secret, we was listening to the Master Key System audio book, we was waking up at 6:00 AM and running, we was eating cleaner. We was. You know, really taking the steps. From the studio that brought you WandaVision. You sure about that? Nothing bonds a family together quite like "Mortal Jeopardy." Now streaming on Netflix. Coming on Disney+. That we could, that was within our control to manifest some shit, you feel me? And as I filmed "Dope," we premiered "Dope" at Sundance, and when I say as I filmed "Dope," I wrote it in my journal as we filmed "Dope," because that's when she brought it to me. When we premiered it at Sundance, like two months, three months later, the people from Spider-Verse were there. Wow. Yo, let me get your voice on your iPhone, like record your voice, read these lines, send it over to us. We did that. They used my voice for the temp animation, and I waited for like, I don't know, it felt like a year or two years or something. I started to get down, and then they called, and it was like, "You're officially Miles Morales. We're going into the next phase now, and here we are." You know? Crazy. Crazy. Yeah. Do you do all the lines for it in LA? On my phone. Yeah. For the movie? Oh, I mean, yeah. Once you got the job. Yeah. I mean, anywhere I'm at. I could be in London, and I can work on it. I could be in Africa, and I'm working on it. Atlanta. Yeah, you're just going to find the nearest studio wherever you're at. Pretty much. Yeah. And so you wouldn't ever be with any of the other actors in the studio. It was just kind of dolo, and you just went in there and would- The first time around, it was Jake Johnson, it was Brian Tyree Henry, it was. I think I did work with Mahershala Ali, or I met him around one of the. I can't really remember about our sessions, but most of our work was with Jake Johnson, who plays Peter B. Parker in that one. Second time around, obviously, we worked with a little bit more of the cast, and right now, it's like we cooking. I love to work with the cast members, because it's nicer to. It's the same thing on camera. You feel me? It's like you can read the lines with the director, he can give it to you, but you can read the lines with Michael. Yeah. Yeah. You feel what I'm saying? As an actor, you already know what that is. And when you do these press runs, brother, it's never just you got PR people in the other room. It's like 15 people. Yeah. It's like all the things is obvious. It's just buried under in context, but it's whatever. You know how it go. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. With great power comes great responsibility. You got to, you know what I mean? That's it. There it is from Miles Morales himself. It's great, man. It's great. Clip that now. Clip that now. Legit. No, that's fire, bro. I definitely feel you. So you were talking about the actor apartment. I wanted to go back real quick. That was in New York. So you moved from Atlanta to New York. Sorry. LA. That was in LA. Oh, it was in LA. Yeah. So when you made the first move, you moved to LA to pursue acting? Yeah. For dope. How old were you? Well, hold on. In Atlanta, I was working. I was working with Ray House of Payne. I did Read Between the Lines. I was doing a whole bunch of music videos. That's what kind of got me. I was really doing music and touring in DeKalb County and Cobb County and et cetera, Gwinnett. So I was in a full blown different bag, but I booked this thing because I was testing for Disney and Nickelodeon and Cartoon Network. It ended up not being Shake It Up, ended up not being whatever it was on Nickelodeon, but it was Incredible Crew. Incredible Crew was on Cartoon Network. It was an opportunity I had, a sketch comedy with Nick Cannon. I did that, came back to Atlanta, did my thing, boom. Then the audition for Dope came. I did a self tape after doing a hundred self tapes and nothing. You know how it go. Yeah. And then I flew out here and that's really what it was. I came out here. I stayed with them and we built. We built. And then from there, I went to New York for the get down. You prefer New York or LA? New York. New York. New York. New York. New York. If I had to pick, I'd choose New York. He don't. This boy swears by LA. No, I love LA. I have a life in LA. Yeah, if I had to choose, I'd choose New York for sure. That's crazy. For sure. craziness um how long did you stay in new york after the um the get down i lived there until i was 30 so it was about 10 years oh you lived there that long yeah and you liked it this guy's crazy i'm telling you bro he don't get it he don't know man 80 years is crazy yeah man but you would you would pop and go do like a show somewhere or go film a movie you would like leave in and out right the get down was new york wu-tang was new york yeah that's true you know i'm saying and wu-tang went how many seasons three yeah three seasons okay um i prefer it that way though i like to don't get me wrong there's a comfortability with like a show that goes seven seasons i'm sure financially right but on the other hand it's like you get you know i mean and i'm i'm way too like you know i mean i don't know i'm gonna throw a kick i'm gonna throw an arm on the head but i don't want to just use my right hand i'm saying like range is important you know what i mean and we all gonna feel that as as we continue you know i mean yeah comfortability financially is dope but doing shit like this is doper to me it's like film and television where it's going it's only going to be a couple of us on like the paid higher level circuit like at the end of the day that's this this shit's gonna be like self-funded through ai fucking tools when i say that it's like we'll shoot some shit in here right and then we're gonna have to use use ai to do the big budgeted shit because we we don't really need the studios to create our own original ip no more now it's really going to be like just like music you can produce music at home you don't got to go to these huge studios to hit record and whatever you could take it there but it's more in your hands now as a writer as a singer as a songwriter i mean as a producer etc and in film and television it i would look at it more like that you know we can really come together and do some shit because we did some shit we we already worked in hollywood so now we can come together and build ill content it's not going to lack any acting level performances or cinematography or nothing because of the tools that ai can give us you feel me and now we selling to the netflix's and then etc right and our cuts are bigger way bigger yeah it's kind of way good did you see obsession yet i haven't seen them i did but they went crazy they already went crazy they went crazy talking about they're about to surpass 100 million on a million dollar budget 90 it was like 875 or something like that but that's another thing like that was like a tiktoker and then made that movie and now that he sold it to uh i forgot where he premiered i think it might have been at sundance or or south by southwest and yeah sold it for like 20 mil and then crazy off to the right are you going to abff this year man i'm going it's not on the calendar right now but we'll see okay yeah because i remember that's the last time i saw you abff last year oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah we had a good time yeah we had a good time yeah yeah yeah i was like i wonder if he's going this year man this was a white party that i was not invited to didn't anybody tell you this is an all-white party this is a white guy party that i was not at oh man are you starting to make your own stuff and do that or oh man you know we cooking man hell yeah cooking film film stuff or music and stuff all the other bro i'm not we because honestly we we can't be smart for real and and move any other way right now there is no option right yeah when it comes to like this lifestyle there is no when you think 10 20 years there is no option you must diversify that's my message to the to everybody waiting on the agents for the next job you must diversify facts that's 100 how i feel and i bring it up every episode i'm like that's why we do this that's what like like we do a bunch of different shit also i love it like if you're gonna sit there and wait for the next job you're gonna wait for the next job you're gonna wait for the next job for one audition every month to just be like oh and then also because there's a lot of people not working right now everyone's going out for that job it's offered to 30 movie stars who aren't working it's like how are you ever gonna like continue to work so yeah you gotta you gotta diversify it and do stuff like that i feel like i'm inspired by what the streamers are doing but i think we got an opportunity i don't know if i i'm gonna chop it up with y'all off of the off the camera but like you know what i'm saying i think they've laid out a cool little and it's there used to be like you streams and shit but that's a whole you know what i'm saying like this is not new for real you know what i'm saying at all but like there is an opera like there is we're gonna build on that there is like there's there's things that we still have on our side and it's not i don't want to make it us versus them i'm just saying we can definitely use what they have made clear works right and we can use what we've made money doing to like do what i just mentioned earlier like we can do that and then they're watching what the illest shit not just you know it's not only fans with clothes on no more you know what i'm saying it's not you know dance for me it's it's some ill shit like there is an opportunity it's just the entrepreneurial mind and banding together intention you feel me i love that um uh let's go back to wu-tang a little bit because we were filming power simultaneously while you were filming wu-tang and i heard you that set was a movie yeah johnnell used to tell me hella stories johnnell the homie yeah we yeah johnnell we've had dave east on here like they just said that that set was a movie so um were you involved in a little bit of the craziness did you kind of say to yourself how was that set the cast all that i i want to hear it he had to take a sip before that one exactly he's like let me clear my throat before we get into this man look i love uh those brothers i learned a lot on that set um i'll just talk about my personal experience on growth uh you know like i said i'm a very confident dude and you know that set was full of alphas it's not no like i feel like i do a lot of tiptoeing around a lot of people just to be like i said digestible and whatnot but on that set i wasn't about to do that neither was they you feel me art imitates life and just like the real wu-tang clan it's like everybody had to find their respect you feel me in this room and amongst each other in a way that felt like it could contain even what because it's not about who's the most famous because if that's what it is about then you know but it's i approach the world as a man you know what i mean like if you don't if you got a gun and you don't know how to use it then you don't need to mention it or pull it out or nothing you know what i'm saying i'm not you know so if you're on the set and you're supposed to be playing a bad boy and you don't know that person in you then like you there's certain conversations you can't participate in there's certain moments you just got to be quiet and move and or there's an opportunity to learn and i feel like that set was an opportunity to learn for a lot of us just like limitations and boundaries and like you know self-reflection you know i mean it was a movie in a sense where everybody was coming to be the one that people left talking about on the show you feel me and that's also because you know there was an example um of how you do that shit and like you know yeah yeah i i you got to just read between the lines on that i think it was a great experience for everybody i don't think i'll ever have another um experience like that i don't think any set experience would be quite like that um just because i'm in a different place and you know but we'll see we'll see yeah support for today's episode comes from square the business platform that helps sellers become neighborhood favorites when i'm 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saved us a lot of gas going to cane to pick up the money all right use square back to the episode we love you guys i the only other set that i've heard is as crazy as that one is the euphoria set i've heard that i've heard that set is a movie but i i would love to see that set i would love to see that set i would love to see that set who just non-Savir crew members being like, some of them loved it, room like oh my god these motherfuckers are crazy like yeah it was it was back and forth but i do get that because it's interesting you say that because it was like a movie that i worked on where like they cast the nerd they cast the jock they cast everyone and it's like yeah we're actors but like the reason why we're getting a lot of these roles is because that's in us we're we're similar to those people or they they see that in us so there's already castable uh conflict yeah even offset like the girl who's the who's the singer and and she's like the nerdy girl that likes you know indie pop might not get along with the jock guy who that's who they cast because they see that in them right very similar to all the actors on wu-tang like right right wu-tang was very much like that in through the group and in the real world so the actors might probably be like that too i tell people like that stuff happens yeah people get caught up in their character and i love it yeah i mean i my style yeah you know and it don't have to be who i am today right because it can be who i am tomorrow you feel me that's me personally like my profile yeah yeah yeah yeah i like you man i'm just sitting here i'm in admiration actually at this point i'm like i don't even want to ask questions can you like why not i feel like you know why people be like he's so well spoken that's how i feel right now it's like i almost understand them when they say that because this is good no no you're you're you're a hundred percent right i agree um and i tell people that a lot i'm like there's like built-in yeah no that's why but so do you are you are you do you do method do you like is that kind of your style i i mean i don't want to say i hate it but i don't i don't think about it like method in my mind but when you just put it all together it's it's method acting yeah that's what they say your boy our boy tom hardy he be doing oh yeah that's my favorite actor i love him did you hear about the mob land shit supposedly go tell me have you watched mob land yet no not yet oh dude if he's your favorite actor you've got to watch that show immediately yeah it's on paramount it's fucking amazing it's like it's i'd say it's like uk similar to power but like very well done um like just high high high budget paramount plus like it's unbelievable um he plays like a like one of the kind of strong guys for like a yeah like a conciliary yeah it's better than the mob family i think it's better than the peaky blinders yeah peaky blinders was good i didn't watch it all though so i can't tell me so i prefer mob land yeah uh but he got fired this morning for for being uh too crazy on set i guess was just i don't know the specifics if i just read the deadline they said it may or may not be confirmed that he was fired but there's very huge discrepancies amongst him and producers with wanting to change lines and showing up late and just and he said he shows up method though like he's a method actor so he'll show up three four hours late and then be method and go in his trailer and don't and won't come out the type shit that's what they're saying but i'm like man i don't know i don't know bro you don't fire tom hardy though i don't know yeah yeah i don't know i agree he's the one guy that is bigger than the program right yeah yeah so he's your favorite yeah he's my favorite and it makes sense because that's my style so so walk us through a day you don't have to if you could leave something whatever walk us through a day so maybe you're doing wu-tang you get to set like how does it go for you i'm going back yeah take your time uh man i just talk about season one because i feel like i got better with it season two season three but um yeah man i mean i had to meet raekwon you feel me and i and then when i met him that's when it was it was a wrap like i just understood exactly what i need to do because i didn't have to come up with the with the character you know i mean i saw who he was you know i mean and then it was just like yo i'm gonna just do that uh so now i'm on set and i mean i don't even know how to i'm pulling up i don't know i don't know i don't get out i do my boxing um i go in the trailer hold on hold on hold on i get there um makeup hair all that then i do my boxing after you do you get the boxing done after the makeup it just really depends because sometimes i'm a little late or right right on the brink of being late so um that's why i stopped and i was like ah how how many times did i get there early not that many you know i mean um so yeah i get the makeup on because it's not like i'm in there for more than five minutes they're not doing much to me you know um i put on my fat suit or i call it a fat suit i put on the suit you know uh that added a little weight to my stomach yeah and then i would just leave my boxes on throwing my sneakers get out there pop pop pop pop do that 10-15 minutes on the pads with my coach at bakes camp yeah oh lord you call real star shit i like it um and then yeah i would have my food at that time you know i got my chef i got shit pre-cooked and shit the meal preps and whatever so i have my food and then yeah i read my lines at that point learn my lines because i don't know them yet and then i'm listening to uh damn only built for cuban links i'm listening to 36 chambers on repeat there's no other music being played on or off of set you know i'm saying unless i ended up going to an event and there's music being played on an office set but no i'm like in a time machine basically i get into my whole bag of i will break your jaw facts and then i listen to the hey yo son i hang you off the building by your dick like you know what i'm saying the whole like i'm i'm reciting everything like yeah hey yo yo yo yo yo yo son you know what i'm saying i'm like really like playing that and now i'm learning my lines after that excuse the break of voice it's been a while you know what i'm saying but uh it's it's been a while and and then i'm and then i'm locked in i get my walk to set and i'm all the way in character like but that's also what caused the of course but it's working like i swear like i mean you gotta have your your thing like yeah yeah i'm kind of similar to you but in the only way i would say one way not the only way one way i would say i'm different is i like to show up an hour early to set every day i'm an hour early every day if my call time's at 8 a.m i'm there like 6 45 7. and only because i don't like being rushed yeah you know what i'm saying and then especially because i feel like us being black this one you're gonna have to sit this one out johnny but i'm gonna go to the bathroom i feel like us being black i don't like for some reason i don't like feeling rushed by white people yeah i don't i don't know why and especially when i know also a lot of friction on set not i don't think it's just white people i don't mean to interrupt you with that right there was another is but continue with what you said i just don't like so i feel like to alleviate well get your point out chris yeah hurry up and alleviate me feeling rushed by people i show up an hour early and then because on on my show on power i wore a fake ear cauliflower ear so it would take them 45 minutes to an hour to put that on every day every day so as soon as i get to set if i show up on time they're rushing me i don't even get my my breakfast sandwich or they gonna have it sit in my trailer and it's cold as hell by the time they put this ear on so i just show up early and handle all of it i chill i listen listen to my music like i got a playlist that i only listen to for janar i don't listen to nothing else in my trailer or while i'm filming everything just all chicago street chief keith yeah i'm gonna kill you all it's just violence just super chicago violent music and i just turn up might smoke me one and then i'm like all right cool i'm ready yeah i listen to a lot of jack harlow to get into now that's it that's that's pretty much what i do right yeah i eat my little breakfast and i'm like all right i'm gonna eat my sandwich drink a cup of coffee smoke me one yeah and listen to just violent music in my trailer for about an hour uninterrupted yeah yeah i feel like that's kind of all like actor-y stuff like that's as far as i'll go to like i'm not i'm not like method method but also like for brain you don't need to like it's kind of like me that's you yeah i don't feel like i reach that far for that character but i'm hoping uh and i will do like playing someone real is fuck is it's no joke yeah it's no joke a lot of pressure it's you like you're gonna get scrutinized and everything so like if you have to go that far and do that shit like i see in a role like that where that makes sense for sure so when that was happening like what what was the friction like because we're other actors doing that as well i truly don't know like all i heard was that said like people were smoking and drinking and partying like i didn't hear any like fight stories but you don't have to you wait hold on i got one question to add to that wasn't ashton sanders on that show yeah he was ah why was it i don't know just ah is that have you worked with him ah just fucking ah that's hilarious nothing nothing good or bad just ah that's hilarious um so so after uh wu-tang what what's after that uh after wu-tang uh after wu-tang it was let it snow um i did something on netflix uh i think it was more like received in like europe you know fire the whites liked it that's great it was a christmas movie hell yeah fire i i want to do i want to do a cool christmas or halloween movie like something like that who else was in that uh it's a lot of like a lot of them are doing their thing right now their names are excuse me man i their names are kind of yeah slipping me right now but uh check it out let us know um yeah it's on netflix another one on netflix it was dope all super talented actors actors and actresses no slight to them i just literally My mind is on, like, I have to go dig in the crate to go, like, but I've seen them in their work right now. Everybody's killing it. You know, I see them all popping up. Did Kanan come right after Let It Snow, or was there anything in between? Oh, yeah. So, I mean, I did this movie called Pretenders that was super indie. It's on Hulu. Fire. But it's one of my favorite slow-key, like, it's one of my, like, deep, deep cuts. I love Cutthroat City. Cutthroat City's another one. That one is, like, the only reason I didn't mention it, that's how I even got Wu-Tang and whatnot, was Cutthroat City. It was a great opportunity. It was just, I got the call the week before, and my character's from New Orleans, and in my heart, I really wish I sounded like NBA Youngboy or something. But that's, you know what I mean? Like, as a character development opportunity, I was able to do that with The Get Down. I was able to do that with Raekwon eventually. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Regarding that role, I feel like. I feel like the character development on my part, it fucks with me. I'm like. I feel you. That's the actor. I feel you. But, nigga, that shit played well. That was a good movie. My homie was in that with you, Denzel Whitaker. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's my dog. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wesley Snipes joined the cast. He pulled up and straight up was like, I'm here because I fuck with your work. That's fire. He wanted to pass the baton on camera. He finna give you the blade baton next, nigga. Man, I've been talking about blades mad long. I've been talking about static shock mad long. Like, you feel me? I've been talking about this so long. I'm like, at what point do I get to the studio moment? You feel me? That's my personal. Yeah. Like, I just feel like, in reality, I just, I've done, met. I'm already, you know what I mean? I just really want to get the opportunity to really show what the fuck is going on over here. You feel me? Just to realign everybody's frequency. Stop fucking playing with me. Oh, God. I feel that. Yeah. Like Drake just said on the album. He said, pay me now. He said, you better book me now before I charge you a fortune. Book me now. I mean, he's already pretty much up there for what you need to pay Drake. It's already a fortune. Like, I don't know how much higher it can get, Drake. He said, well, in his defense, he said, in 2009, I told him. Oh, yeah. Book me now before I charge you a fortune. Well, he's right about that. Yeah, he's right about that. That's kind of how I feel right now. I have like 300 questions for you, but you brought up frequency. Yeah. Like, what does that mean to you? Like, frequency. What did I say regarding frequency? You said, I just want to, like, put them back on the frequency to, like. Oh, word. Because it has a big meaning to me, which is why I'm asking that question to you. That moment, dope to get down, Spider-Verse, you know what I mean? The frequency was in line. Like, I didn't have to do anything. It was just a line. And I feel like when Spider-Verse came. I took it to another level globally, commercially. You feel me? And it also shed light. Like, I remember the first movie, I was like, this is my biggest project and no one knows that it's even me. Like, they separate dope from Spider-Verse right now. And it's like, as an actor, that's a great thing. Right. As a personal brand, I'm like, how do I, like, use this to get the role that I'm talking about? And so, okay, boom. Like, I'm focused on music. And I'm building and building. And I find myself not turning down roles. But there's a lot of actors got opportunities that they were able to take advantage of because I was really focused on the right moment. You feel me? And not taking everything that came to me. And sometimes I look back on that and I'm like, was that a mistake or not? I just wonder. You feel me? But also, I'm really particular about what it is. I'm really particular about what it is. I want to be in and represent. You feel me? I want range. You feel me? So, I can play another character that's in L.A. that gets caught up and starts selling drugs and, you know, da-da-da-da. But I did that already. It's a better decision to do the bad boy in New York, even if I'm not number one on the call sheet in that. Right. You follow what I'm saying? It just shows a different, vast difference. So, I made a lot of decisions like that. And when I think about frequency. And I think about right now. I think about the power of social media. And it's not, nothing I'm saying right now is unique to me. I mean, it could be Chris Brown. It could be Omarion. It's like, the most talented of us. It could be Drake. You feel me? The most talented of us are going to face this, like, unrelatability moment with, like, it's like, it's almost like an extra layer of having to prove outside of, like, your organic fan base. Mm-hmm. Loving you for your art and your work. There's another layer of, like, does everybody digest it this way through meme culture? You feel me? Through, like, and you got to be, what I love about streamers is that they know how to harness that. They know how to lean into it. They know how to flip it. It's like, there's no better PR. You don't even need PR, brother. What you need is a streamer that's doing your PR for you. Right. Right. You feel me? Like, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, I agree. Because these clips, because people are always going to, like, you know what I'm saying? What I'm saying is the frequency right now, or even Spider-Verse, people know, I feel like people relate my face to that character more through bullshit and, like, weird-ass narratives than the work itself. Yeah. And the things I'm doing in the community on the ground, on college campuses and in high schools. You feel me? Niggas don't even talk about it. Niggas don't even know. You feel me? It's like, it's not lack of content that's out there. It's just lack of, like, spotlight. On that specific thing. Clippers ain't clipping you donating to the colleges and showing up. And what I'm not doing, what I don't have, and, you know, what I haven't done is set up an infrastructure for Clip Farmers and, like, the whole, like, I don't have 30 different people running 1,500 accounts that create a narrative on social media for me. And so, yeah, I think regarding frequency, I would rather put all that attention that it would take to do that. And to making a fucking ill ass, like, I want to, I just need, I just need to, like. You want to direct and produce? Bro. Yeah. I want the front end and I want the back end. I ain't mad. You feel me? That's it. And I want the star in the shit. Facts. I'm with you. Me and Patrick was just talking about coming over, talking about that coming over here, bro. That's what we on, bro. It's that time. I want, I want to cut out all the extra shit. I want to go straight to consumer. You feel me? I want ownership of the IP. I don't just want to represent. I don't just want to be the black anything. I want that to mean something for the black people watching it. You feel me? Facts. Like, you're the black what? And who's making all the money? You're the black what? You're on TV. Who's making the money? You? All right. Don't work for five years. Who got money? Right. Facts. Who got money? Yeah. You know, that's the game that they playing. And we not, and it's not just black, bro. It's like, I think it's entertainment in general. Yeah. Creatives in general. Yeah, just all. Who are we, what are we using to make money? And we can't really have that conversation until there's an infrastructure and we just going down a whole different line of like where my mind actually is. When it comes to the talent shit and frequency, I know what the fuck is going on inside of this body. I am aligned with what you're saying right now because it speaks to everything that I represent and I feel in my mind and my brain and how the world works and how this entertainment works. So like, that's why I asked that question because yes, like the alignment. Like you were aligned for dope, you were aligned for all these things. Like I'm on the same frequency that of what you're speaking. I understand what you mean. That's why I was curious because when I saw you talk about it on Kai's stream, I was like, oh, I know what he's saying. You know? When I think about Kai's stream, it's funny. I had never seen, that was my introduction to like what streaming is right now. Right. When I say I didn't watch like none of their, their videos popped up on my feed at all. And my, somebody hit me up. Um, first and foremost, his name was always around, Kai Senat's name was around and I say always, I mean maybe that year I was hearing it more and more, but I think when it was like, yo, you, cause I think we reached out to do something with him because of that. And then they had reached back out to do that moment. You feel me? And I'm going up there thinking like, cause my PR was telling me like, yo, you gotta like, it's basically, they want you to be Spider-Man. When you go up there, you, they want you to be like Spider-Man. So in my mind, I'm like reading lines and I'm like performative as Spider-Man. Right. Wow. That's great. And now I look at streaming and I'm like, yo, niggas get really just hung out. Yeah. You feel me? Did you do that? You were, you were Spider-Man? In my mind, I went up there like reading the lines on the screen. I look back at that. I'm like, why was it? Cause I felt performative. Yeah. You feel me? I'm like, I didn't do any research on what the fuck I was going to do. I was just like, he's, he's popping, he got this house going on, mafia-thon, like he came up multiple times about something we was doing with the movie and then it was just like, oh, he, you know, there's alignment and then he liked Spider-Man and then I pulled up and that's what it was about. It was like, in my mind, I'm like, okay, I'm coming to do, be Spider-Man here. It's crazy. We'll have like giant actors on the show and the episodes will do well, but then we'll have streamers come on. We've had Deshae, Frost, DDG, all these people that come on and those episodes just murder. - Word. - That's what, people are watching that. - Word. - Some of our favorite actors have come on here and stuff like that and those numbers aren't even anywhere near those what do you think about vertical uh series i i think like you like you was just talking about there's a window bro if we the first people to do it and do it right and have like i ain't gonna say real actors but a certain level of actors if we conform to that we can run it and it gives us the opportunity for ownership i think way more right now because the the budget for that is like attainable that's an attainable budget to get some shit like that shot yeah i mean people made fun of joe rogan when he did a podcast people literally made fun of joe rogan when he did a podcast 15 years ago he probably makes a couple maybe if i'm wrong half a mil to a million episode in sponsorships how does that work is that is that around you think that's around right yeah like how do we got the prize picks and all the sponsors and when you know you're watching the podcast and it cuts and it goes to like the commercial yeah and joe does what two episodes a week brennan one one he's making a million dollars an episode on a podcast interviewing someone through sponsorships through sponsorships through you probably numbers i think he has a deal with spotify does he have a six six or eight yeah it's a hundred million dollar deal with spotify how many uh listeners did he need before he was able to pull that i mean but he just consistently did it for like 10 years while people were making fun of him same thing dude joe rogan was on the cusp of a lot of stuff same thing with ufc yeah he was he was interviewing people uh on ufc because now he's ufc is one of the biggest sports in the world uh and he's uh uh the one of the main guys he was doing it when when there weren't even weight classes and there weren't rules and it was he's been on the early cusp of a lot of things which is kind of inspiring to see but i feel that way maybe about verticals like maybe i'm hating on it to be like no i'm an actor like i'm doing like big studio like shit but again i could be one of those guys like oh maybe bro it could be like imagine you went on there and you didn't see like the the the actors who are trying to get the guest stars the series regulars and you actually saw people i saw tay digs do one that's what i'm saying like so imagine you get all tay dig level actors yeah to really do that and it's shot with red cameras or whatever or we get some or aries whatever right and it's shot for real with real actors with a nice story yeah bro it's over with and you actually own it and that shit you they're doing a hundred episodes of that shit because it's only each episode's only uh like a minute to three minutes long yeah that's one full episode so 60 minutes is like 60 episodes yeah so you shoot an hour and you got 60 episodes of content and you own it yeah how do you feel about them uh you feel me i never want to lose my major like you said i never want to you know um but at the same time i'm like there's a there is a timeline on that major level you know i'm saying like i said earlier you know at the same time it's just like responsibility bro like you got to move at the times if if my how i feel is like open i feel i feel like i'm i can adjust in the fight this thing catching me with a goddamn jab three times it's not happening on fourth yeah right what i'm saying i'm about to adjust you feel me and that's that's how i feel about it yeah last year i was fighting a lot against um diversifying just fighting against him like i i i don't want to like i want to be a superhero i want to do these big franchises this and then i just had to come to jesus moment i got a whole new team and they were like do the podcast do all these other things like you have fun doing it too you love it you could probably be a good gizmo what's that in static shock oh oh yeah people have fan casted me for that yeah and seen that but it'll be hard a superhero i've been i still i've been trying to get him to stream i think he'd be one of the top streamers in the world oh yeah yeah yeah i know he would be one of the top streamers in the world but i feel what you're saying like like i i get that and and i agree with what he's saying oh my god i like i want i want to be a movie star like that's the goal that i moved to la and that's the goal obviously times change things happen but like like timothy chalamet level type movies is what i want to do now is there a world where i can be a streamer and also do that maybe because i have that but like i that's why i'm like this conversation heavily and i could go for four hours with you because of someone of your caliber of acting and and your resume and this and that and you speaking like that you're probably one of the first actors on that level that i've heard speak like this because a lot of times the people who are on that level are like well why do i need to do anything else i'm entrepreneurial minded you know what i'm saying i'm not just a for hire ass motherfucker you know what i'm saying that's all that's the same reason why i can do three seasons of a show and be happy that is not happy it's canceled but i'm fine you know what i mean i'm gonna do another one right because i know i'm talented it's just but i'm i'm now waiting on an opportunity that's it of course and that that whole um you know when you think about timothy chalamet or michael b like these are guys uh tom hardy they have their production companies right i don't know i honestly don't know their business because i know michael b has one i can't speak for anybody else um but uh when you when you're will smith and you're pumping out i robot and like uh the you know what i'm saying bad boys and you got your own production company you're samuel jackson you got your own production company then you're in control it's just about funding at that point right go to qatar get some oil money like that's more that's hollywood is not the only source or the best source for funding period right by the way you know i'm saying by the by the way it's like there's so many other ways to get money and it's really going to be it already is because of the streamers like shifted into like who's who's holding attention you know i'm saying you can have a tv show and nobody's watching it you know i'm saying when i say nobody you got like five million people watching it or a million people watching it and then you got a show that's not as good as your show but it's like a hundred million people watching it you know i'm saying then your show gets canceled right you know what i mean then what if you don't i think when you think about anything social level you're still reaching more people you have the opportunity to reach more people when you talk about joe rogan it's got to be his reach that is unlocking like those kind of numbers you know what i'm saying that's it's the most watched podcast in the world so when i do a bigger film and i got this whole infrastructure around me you think they're gonna pay me a million dollars to do it you think they're gonna pay me five million to do it right stop it yeah yeah stop it now we talking hundreds yeah you know i'm saying now i'm the most expensive actor on the planet because i have a billion dollar infrastructure around me you feel me i put on other actors and shit like that's why i love taylor sheridan so much bro like how he finessed the whole thing bro and went and bought the like he was trying to act and then just said you know what fuck this i'm gonna write it yeah and then he said thanks for the bread and you know what i'm gonna buy this ranch farm and yeah y'all need somewhere to film this shit guess what you're gonna rent this shit for me to film my show like i the biggest i look up to that dude just off that alone like yeah he's a go he's he's i think he's the highest paid showrunner of all time now yeah he's done yellowstone and all in all those shows uh the thing that aggravates me the most is you're right and you said this um it's not about talent uh because we're all talented and the most talented person arguably never gets the role right it's always who fits it right who does this do i i missed out on something that that the star of the movie his daughter liked the actor that's how i missed out on something oh my god so that's like but that's what's aggravating about being at will of the studios is like i know i'm fucking talented my team watches my tapes that get sent in and they go wow you know but did i book any of those roles in the past six months no i haven't and it always goes to someone i'm like of course but also another thing is like you could be on a show and someone someone simultaneously is on another show and their show might suck but hit lightning in a bottle with your teens or this or that and that guy's getting eight million followers and you're on a show that's doing well power you know crushed it's one of the biggest shows too but maybe hollywood doesn't really fuck with it like they fucked with this amazon prime show that that crush you might not be a better actor but you hit lightning in a bottle and now you're getting 300 offers for every movie and you get to do every role you've ever wanted with the best writers with the best thing with the best so then now you're propped up to do all these other things as opposed to like someone who's like well i'm way more fucking talented than that guy that's why i also hear what you're saying about having it being in your pocket in this and and building the infrastructure so you can control your own destiny and the other thing is that you don't have a choice you have about 10 years right like that's the other thing and you do not have a choice yeah you know i can't well where do you see in 10 years where do you see like where do you see netflix where do you see uh param like do you think they're buying stuff from people who are making their own things you think that's where it ends up absolutely that's the business that they're in yeah i don't think their business model changes but but do you think they're still making their own stuff as well or yeah why not yeah i just was curious with your thought process and where you thought you just you're sponsoring joe rogan it might be sponsoring your your whole movie your whole like based on not even the projects or the vertical series short whatever it is that you wanted your your your stream yeah it might not be sponsoring that they might sponsor a whole you heard like overall deals didn't ava duvernay just get no it's not ava duvernay courtney kip yeah courtney just got one of her she got an apple one yeah what do you mean how did she do that because of her her resume yeah you know That just happened to be on Starz, and Starz paid for it, and you know the whole rest of it. But you think that doesn't apply if it's on Twitch or YouTube? How? I think maybe as actors, because we're so brainwashed and trained, that we see Twitch or YouTube as a lower echelon thing. It is lower, though. Right, right. I'm sorry. No, no, you're okay. Go on, go on. My bad. Regarding financially, YouTube is arguably, I don't know, can we check, fact check? Who's doing better, YouTube or Netflix this year, last year? You feel me? I would vote Netflix. It's like I'm losing my. You sure about that? Why am I losing my. Google, so, I mean, money-wise, stock-wise. Probably YouTube, dude. Exactly. It's just like, just because everybody can use YouTube makes it more accessible, whereas Netflix, you have, it's a more curated experience, you know what I mean? You gotta subscribe, subscription-based. So, when it comes to your personal business and what you're getting out. To your audience, what platform is paying you the most is the only thing we should be concerned about. Right. That's true. That's smart. I feel like we gotta get into a little Raising Cane and stuff. Oh, yeah. The power fans kill us. Oh, yeah. Breeze. So, you're Breeze. I'm Breeze. And people have, for so long, have been trying to figure out who's Breeze. This Ronnie's Breeze. This person's Breeze. Yeah, yeah. How did that all happen and come about? I got an email, and I popped up on set. Straight offer. Straight offer is Breeze. Damn. Oh, you cold. Hell, yeah. And did you watch all the original Powers prior? What was your process to getting on who Breeze was, the information, this and that? I'll be 100% honest. So, you know. Yeah. All right. I had watched Power, the original book, and I stopped. And then when this came up, because I was in Wu-Tang, and I am like, I don't give. I don't care. I really. I had to learn to be more. You know. So, anyway. And I told Sasha, and I was like, you know, I have to actually tap in with the whole universe again, because I'm really focused on. I've been focused on me. Yeah, I watched everything. Fire. And I needed to understand who everyone was, what everybody brought to the table, how everybody fit into the books and the stories. I basically read the whole Bible, and everything in the Bible, you know, every book. Yeah. And I knew what I needed to do. Hell yeah. So, do you have any, like, favorites from, like, did you really like the original Power? Do you have any favorite, like, actors or scenes or stuff that you really liked? I mean, I like all of y'all, brother. I mean, at the end of the day, you know, I'm honored to be. I'm number 11 on this call sheet. It's not my show. Right, right, right. So, I'm joining something that exists already and supporting. But it was an opportunity because of. Honestly, I wanted to connect with 50. And honestly. I loved Omari Hardwick's performance. Incredible. To be just completely honest, I think my major concern coming into it was him and his performance and contribution to Power as a universe, you know? And yeah, I mean, but all y'all, brother, like, you know, all of y'all doing your thing, all of y'all did your thing, continue doing your thing, et cetera. I like what you're doing outside of Power. I like. I really don't have nothing bad to say. I'm really inspired by what you guys had going on, have going on. I'm inspired by 50 and what he's created. Because what I'm talking about right now, 50 did. Right. He didn't use YouTube. Yeah. I had never heard of stars before Power. Yeah. And that's just, like, regarding what I'm talking about right now, it's not like I'm talking about anything new. I'm just talking about it in a way that you two can relate. Right. Because you are in the same position I am. You feel me? In our business and, like, the future of it, they're not going to come tell it to you like I'm telling it to you right now. Right, right, right. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. They ain't going to spell it out like this. Yeah. You feel me? But Omari Hardwick. Goat. Yeah. Unbelievable. He's too good. I saw a TikTok the other day that was, like, Ghost Core, and it was just all of his, like, yelling scenes. I'm like, oh my God, he's just so good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So who's your favorite white? Who's your favorite white actor on Power? I mean, oh, is it Smokey? Was that a shot or was it not? No, no, I was just kidding. I was just being with you. Actually, no, wait, wait. We have a couple more Breeze questions. So only one scene has come out, right? That your initial scene. Oh, yeah. Oh, from last season. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was one scene that came out. Walked up on the street. Yeah, and then people figured out, okay, Shamik's Breeze. But you've since filmed the whole season. Obviously, it comes out in two weeks. We can't, like, you know, expose anything. Oh, yeah, June 12th. Yeah, June 12th. Yeah, good shit. Raising Canaan, coming soon. Is there anything that you can say about your experience there, like working with Makai and, like, all these people? Like, how was it? Yeah, I just want to know what you can say. I had a sense of, I had a sense of, well, for one, I had never been on a set that was so strict about, like, the words, like the wording, you know? If I was to say, welcome to, to the room instead of welcome to the room, they would make me do it again. Wow. I didn't know Sasha was that strict. He was like that. And I was like, oh, shit, because I, that is not my approach. I'm learning the lines, like, a couple minutes before because I don't like, I don't like to know, I don't know what I'm going to say next right now. So why do I need to know what I'm going to say? Like, I need to, I needed to come from an organic place. So, anyway, I don't think that was an option. I tried it a couple times, but, you know, I realized that, that's not, so the experience was, that was a challenge because it's a fundamental clash with my style. But then also, I realized that, you know, for example, Makai is five seasons into this character. And I'm like, oh, shit, I still got questions about Breeze. Like, you feel me? Like, I'm still trying to, you know, and I think, I look at Patina Miller, who is cold. Cold-blooded. Cold. One of the coldest on TV, man. She's different. On Broadway. On anything. Like, really, all of them are. But I think what I'm saying is, I realize as I'm doing scenes with everybody, how they already, the work I did on Raekwon, they was doing it at the time I was doing the Raekwon. They're very in character with, they have a relationship with their characters. And so I realized I needed to speed up. Like, there were certain things I can't, I can't grow to it in the audience. I can't grow to it with me either because of, I don't want to talk too much. Because of everything. Y'all understood. Did you have any scenes with London? London Brown? Uncle Marvin? You know what we'll do? We'll do, if you're down, we'll have you back on after all the episodes air. Word. Because I could fucking talk to you for four hours. That's running. And then we could kind of recap everything. But also, I wanted to, like, really, you know, promote Kanan coming up. I fucking love Sasha. I love all those guys. I'm down for any good, you know, you got some good questions and, you know, it should be more focused on the Kanan part anyway. Maybe we can, we'll do a part two with Shamik. And we'll focus a little bit more on Breeze and Kanan and stuff like that. But I feel like the fans would have fucking killed us if we didn't even bring him. But we'll have you back, 100%. Oh, you also had a movie come out with, it was One Spoon, it was with RJ, right? Yeah, One Spoon and Chocolate. Yeah, RJ's in it. Yeah, yeah. Oh, damn, he was. Wasn't that Quentin Tarantino? Quentin Tarantino. I'll be going, I'll be going. Yeah, the RZA. How was that? It was a fun time? Yeah. It's another indie. That's what I'm saying. Like, I'm doing a lot of independent films and I love the ownership element of it, but I really want to get the big bang with it, you know? And One Spoon and Chocolate is like, I think it'll have its moment when it's on streaming because I think the theater, the, you know, our budget and everything is just, the challenges with independent filmmaking and whatnot and getting it out there. You know, some people love it, some people hate it. It's a, it's not for everybody. It's not water. It's just, it's the most potent shit from across the border. Heard you. Heard. Yeah, I had a movie in theaters last year that got crushed from just all the other big movies. It's like hard to go up against. It's $100 million budget movies. I think Mount Trust came out the same weekend. But now it's like number one on Netflix everywhere. Yeah, yeah, yeah. In all the other territories. That's just how it goes now, you know? Right, right, right. If you're not, if you're not in a giant studio movie, that's the way to go. That's the same thing that saved Breaking Bad when it went to Netflix. A lot of shows. Nobody was watching Breaking Bad until they put the first three seasons on Netflix. Then it blew up. Yeah. It's a lot of shows. Suits. Yeah, I love Suits. I just started re-watching it again. I'm on season eight right now. I've never seen it. It's good. What? You don't know about Mike Ross? I just don't love law stuff. Like, you would be good as a Mike Ross. He could kill Mike Ross, bro. I read for the spinoff. I don't know who they cast. The spinoff wasn't shit. You don't want the spinoff. But those are the kind of roles I do kind of see you in when you talk about, like, you know, expansion. You would kill, like, an agent-type role, too. Like an Ari Gold type role You would do some shit like that But you say you don't want to do That type of shit So you don't want to do it No no It's not that I don't want to do it I just don't like Watching law stuff I'm like It's boring But that show was good That show was so good It was good You don't like procedurals Is what you don't like You would do law If it was on like HBO Or Apple TV No I don't I don't like political stuff And I don't like law Oh I love law Watching it I love the law I love that shit Yeah I know We went to Lil Durk's Trial and Chris was like He kept looking over me I wanted to stand up And say objections So bad On what grounds So honey We went to go to His You know They're getting all the evidence Ready for his case And me and Chris went It was like a live Like it was pretty wild It was crazy But Chris kept like He was like eating pop He kept looking at me like Bro no Imagine being in a courtroom And you hear like The prosecutor White prosecutors right Reciting The lyrics to Aha And it's like Well your honor It says right here It says right He said Go and slide for Durk And slide for Vaughn And pick up your gun Yeah Literally He got They be on my page Like slide for Vaughn I know they're trolling me Yeah it was Your honor Outside with your big homies Be on I keep them folks with me I said oh Jesus I was like bro Dave was on there And I was like yeah And then when we come up We're like Oh And then he slipped out Yeah no it was crazy Yeah Yeah But free Durk Free Durk We had Shameik Moore In the building Shout out to Shameik Guest host Christy Lofton In the building Gotta add the D Pause Pause Shameik is there anything else That you want to plug IG All that stuff Anything Any music You know just It's Instagram man And you know what I mean I'm coming I'm coming swinging Like I'm just I'm over here Working on myself Working on brand building Powers Sorry Technically It's Raising Canaan I always say power Out in the world Raising Canaan Is June 12th I know y'all expecting You know You know I'm not I'm not coming like that Cause that was That was like How many of How many of y'all Us Yeah Come like that Yeah I'm not coming like that So yeah Breeze June 12th We'll have Shameik back on And we'll talk Breeze season It's Breeze season You heard what we said Hey Makai It's Breeze season Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you for pulling up bro We appreciate it Thank you bro Thank you Oh no The crew has it Yeah We forgot to do a mic Cause Michael Was a little under the weather today Yeah So I gotta do it Yeah give us one Chris Amen The crew has it The crew has it And you have it Last one to the airport Buying breakfast Buying breakfast Day one Day one Day one ♪ ♪