The episode of *Girls* revisits foundational themes of female identity, emotional resilience, and relationship dynamics through a richly layered narrative. Characters confront past traumas in distinct ways: Charlotte struggles with her trauma from a horse-related accident, seeking to rebuild her connection to horses as a symbol of emotional healing; Carrie grapples with a failed romance with Big, ultimately realizing that love is not about fitting into expectations but about self-assertion. Samantha’s awkward encounter with a man whose size overwhelms her reflects her broader fear of intimacy and her societal conditioning to avoid male friendships. The show critiques modern relationship norms, especially "friends with benefits," by showing how they often mask deeper emotional avoidance. The narrative also highlights the physical and emotional toll of living in a media-saturated culture, where women are pressured to perform beauty and control. A standout moment is Carrie’s final scene, where she sings “I Can’t Be Tamed” as a declaration of independence and defiance against being defined by past relationships. The episode also touches on broader cultural issues, such as sustainability in high-end cuisine (e.g., 11 Madison Park’s vegan shift) and the environmental impact of food systems. Ultimately, the episode serves as both a nostalgic reflection and a timely commentary on how women navigate emotional survival, trauma, and self-worth in a world that often demands conformity. It underscores the importance of physical action, emotional honesty, and breaking free from cycles of avoidance—offering a deeply resonant message about reclaiming autonomy in relationships and life.
Samantha's like, "I don't usually give my number out to some random man on the street." You got business cards made up for a reason. Welcome back to Girls Rewatch. A podcast about girls and girls on TV. I'm Amelia Ritalar. Oh, we got it. I'm showing my feet. Oh, my God. I'm having. You're so jealous that I'm on wiki feet and you're not. Yeah, with your 3.5 stars. I'm not so jealous. Hey, you know what, that's closer to 5 than it is to 0. It's what I broke my journal. Oh, you did? Yeah. Wow. Well, based off wiki feet, it is closer to 0. People are really generous on that side. I was just a girl in some of those photos. It's not fair. No, no. Your feet are much more gorgeous now since you got licensed to glow. Of course. I will say, Amelia, I've been holding my tongue about this for weeks and I don't want, and listen. I didn't say it in a moment because I did not want it to. But you did self taner before you went on that vibrator or brand trip and it hit your feet the hardest the day you wore. Oh, my God. And you wore burgundy socks to the Susan Alexander dog show. I know. I know. So a lot happened. It's so beautiful. A lot happened in midtown that day. The girl was trying something new and I wanted like that. I wanted her to I knew it was going to be the worst spray tan I've gotten so far from there. What's it? Did you do it yourself or you got it done? No, I get but I snake it in a tent in midtown and this girl sprays me down. And she was like, I'm going to try something new this time and I was like, okay. And then she didn't spray my hands so they were white as hell. And then she kind of just. Yes, she saved her for the feet. She kind of painted my feet down. And then my, um, my loafers broke. You've never got any number up. Yeah. I broke and then I wore Burkin socks to a fashion, to fashion week events. And that's just, that's just like what it's like to be a chill girl like me. Now that I'm tired. I did. Honestly, when you wore that, it was like, oh, she's free. Like it was so, it was so free. It's so like not like me. Like I was like, I guess I'm tired being you wore pillow pants and tight eyed feet. It was crazy. So good. No one's doing it like her. Um, but you guys welcome back to the pod or welcome back to us on the pod. We've been hearing us every week, but we actually haven't recorded since June. Now I know. So we actually feel like we haven't spoken to each other. See, and I guess how to get the, the cruelty's out the way. Yeah. And now we've clansed. You can know you get a shot at some point too. Do you have any exciting news you briefly want to share with the audience about you've been up to these past few months? Oh, don't make me. You can look at myself sack, of course. Um, I of course was just setting that up. So I could say mine. Okay. You know what you were sending me up for. No, I didn't realize it. So you reacted like that when I said, Oh, yes, um, no, I mean, I, yeah, it was an interesting summer filled with, um, trials and tribulations, but ultimately it's led to a renaissance of sports for my own mental endeavors, which my mental numbers are mostly going into, um, like death spirals of negativity, but I'm now like adding like nice words in there sometimes too. Oh my god. You sound like me. You're doing me. You've started doing me I kind of always been like this. Well, mind you, I'm an on a positive upflow for some reason because I of course got laid off suddenly and huge, um, and have kind of no clear future ahead of me for the first time ever. And, um, I feel kind of, you know, like, manically pumped. Whoa. Like, I'm so scared of it's actually become calm. Like every day I wake up and I'm like, Oh, what could happen? No, freedom for my job is, I mean, like, I don't think that's mean, I grow. I think that's just excitement. I didn't know the pressure of uploading seven podcasts episodes for other people every month or every week for the last five years was weighing on me so heavily, but it turns out it was. Yeah. It was responsibility. Yeah. And I, you're, you're left from that burden for at least a little. I'm left from that burden, at least for a little. And you know what? So excited. It's just us today for season two, episode 18, the finale X and the city. Woo. Now for you guys out there who maybe didn't just watch it like I did on the train over here. This episode is, you wrote this outline so professionally. I was trying to make people think I'm still typy, but I watched this episode three times. Good. Please don't. Don't you never shy away from hard work? If you did something hard, it's okay to talk about it. Okay. I wish you make it look effortless. I worked really hard on this outline. You guys, and I'm really proud of it. Like when you, the girl who gave you her self-tapped, she worked really hard. She did. She did. She did mind you. That brand trip was full of like people who have had their self-tainer figured out for years. Of course. There's no way I was going to add up. To making and base influencers, influencers who have ideas of comedy. I will say random brand trip, Mormons, sex educators, it's for a vibrator company. And the only comedians on the trip are me, Super Kira, Sydney Washington passed us to the pot, and Marie found it. That's a powerful group. Oh, we were key king in the van. I'll tell you that, my shit. But anyways, okay, X in the city, it originally aired October 3rd, 1999. And the creator of the show, Michael Patrick King, went ahead and directed it. Uh-oh. And this, just to refresh your memory, is that the sober were answering the question, like, can we be friends with our acts? And the plot lines for each girl are really fun with this. So Samantha makes her first male friends with a guy whose dick is too big. And so she can't fuck him. And so that's cool for the her. And then Charlotte's getting back into horses after trauma from childhood, when her horse tatty bucked her off. Broker collarbone. Broker collarbone and she lost the blue ribbon. I would've made so much money to see that. Young Charlotte, just like, I'll never write tatty again, daddy. Every other day when we were doing that podcast, and I hold the story of when I saw a woman die from a horse, and then I obviously didn't emotionally process that, and people acted like it was a big deal. Yeah, but was shocking. But it wasn't, it was just like something I witnessed and I moved on from. Yeah. Mm-hmm. You want to plug, where people can hear that? On the party God podcast. Okay, perfect. If you want to know more, check out that episode, and then Kara gets lunch with Big for the first time after she ran into him in the Hamptons, right? And he reveals he's engaged to that girl Natasha, who's he's only been dating for five months, my show. And meanwhile Miranda runs away from Steve and then they end up hooking up and being like, we should be FWB friends with Benefits. I know. Before we even had the words. I know. I'm like, are they going to say it? Are they going to say it? They didn't say it. They didn't say it. But you don't want Miranda's fully in with Steve as a situation show. But does it? Well. No. No. Okay, yeah. I disagree. Yeah. It's X's with Benefits. If we're going to get really granular with it, like a situation is a prelude to dating. They've data. They've put the label on it. And now they're X's. So we have another label. You can't go from, I don't think you can never work backwards from someone being your former boyfriend into situation ship. Yeah. I think that's a really good point. Because the land without labels wants to find you can never undefine. You can only change. I'm like, you are. I'm like in awe. This is a TED talk. Evan, I think it's time for us to not help a wonder. Oh, God. I've been wondering a lot. So this episode starts off in an amazing way with the parable of using the word big as a sense of metaphor and pun, which again is amazing cross-section or Michael Petler king. Where he's able to extrapolate pun into a true artistic form where we see Carrie and Miranda argue over. Five dollar flowers, so less three days or ten dollar flowers, so less five days. And then we hear Carrie's voice being like, we had a big day coming in big decisions. And then we get to see the big decision of picking out the flowers. No, like they are wink, wink, winking away in that opening scene. And then we see Steve strolling down. The way Steve looks hot is hell in his little outfit. You like a member of Orange? Yeah. I was like, he kind of looks hot. If I was Miranda, I'd be scared and run away as well. Oh, is Steve turning you on? Um, oh yeah. Steve was turning. Is Steve the guy for you? No, because it turns out he's a bitch baby. A beta cock. A beta cock. So to speak. Um, which wouldn't have worked for me, but Miranda carries Steve in the street. And they run away without paying for the foul. It's so fun because you know what it is. It's like when you see your ex, you're merely sitting to a state of fight or flight. She was. I know, but we have to internalize at all, not all like trauma responses in our body. Or like, we don't have to act like them, like prehistoric people. Right. And it's like in 1999, we didn't know like we're not caveman. We can talk to our exes on Fifth Avenue. Carry with so fun, not fly away. You know what I mean? Like the girls would do the different types. I know. Well, wait. There's also no freeze. Samantha would fight. Charlotte would freeze. Oh, my God. And Miranda's flight. Oh, I think I had a big F with three Fs.
Um, so then we cut to an amazing diner seeing all the girls in there. I want to point out that this, the beginning alpha, we see Carrie here. Is she's wearing a pink and white motif, which is something she visits two other times throughout this episode is using pink and white. And I especially think when Carrie, like, is in her big hair era, yeah, like right now, she, they really love to lean into pink, especially, um, I think something really nice is that they use this oftentimes to show the changing of the seasons, like Carrie isn't pink when it's bringing the show, which I always think is like such a nice touch. It's Gilmore Girls level of like season planning. I love it. And the fact that it aired October 3rd, I bet the producers were like, this will be really good. So if people want to be Carrie for Halloween, which would be free marketing, they'll know to wear pink and white. And they can collab with someone's to go out. What it is our last episode in the 90s too. Oh, I know. It's before the turn of the century. Do you know what happened to me the other day? You turned a century. This girl, this girl said, oh my god, you were born in the 1900s. They picked it up from online. I was like, that is so mean. It's okay. It's the end of it. I wish I had you there to say that because I just kind of, I kind of froze. I would, you would have froze. I would have fought. A 25 year old asked me how old I was. I said 20 years. She said, that's okay. I just believe that's yourself. I know it's okay. It's cool to be on the other side because I used to be her. Oh, and Carrie also, she is two or three different badgots throughout this episode. Badgat bags. Right. No, the bread. Really? Are you kidding? I'm like, I don't remember. Come on, girl, please. Work with me a little. So we're at the dinner scene. And Samantha says, women are for friendships. Men are for fucking. And Charlotte's like, you can never be friends with your ex. Like, that gives him too much power. And Carrie's like, listen, y'all, I look amazing with my hair half up, half down. And then Samantha's like, it's not mean to refuse to be friends with an ex. You know, black widows, a bite their mates heads off. We could be doing that. I do like that. Yeah, I'm like, that could be cool. I love Carrie uses that voice when she says that too. Or it's like, it's always her like fighting voice. She's like, we couldn't take it. We could be like black widows. And we could put the hedge right off of our mates. And then they do that laugh. She's always doing that. And I do like that it is seen is we watch Carrie go through this terrible breakup with Mr. Bag. Yeah. She experiences high grief. I mean, we always see the grief. The Hampton scene. But then a lot of people that, you know, go through a breakup, you see the exhaustion upon your friends, you go, oh, you know what? I got to bring up back a little bit. So she guards and like, guys is her monstrous grief with like, with these like, light words. She goes, no, you know what? Like I am moved on from Mr. Bag and I don't care. Like whatever an entoshant him can be together. And then Miranda goes, well, it wasn't to be a bitchy stick figure about 10 seconds ago. She goes, yeah, she's a bitchy stick figure. But it's fun to like watch Carrie like, fain maturity. I love it. It's so fun because I see myself and my friends do this almost every day of our lives. And it's like fun to see it represented in the media. Do you think you'd like lean into the falsehood in order to like, in a way, to make it true? Well, you know, I try and make everything I say sound sarcastic so they can't get me. But that's something different. I don't think it is. Well, what you're doing is safety. Like you're protecting yourself with sarcasm. You can always kind of come back later and be like defer it being like, I was just joking. Like there was a sarcastic tone here. And then that way you can reflect the way the problem of her is like inside it back to the, the words you were using. Yeah. Here, she's using words of maturity in a very serious manner to guys, the fact that she's in pain, a protector of friends from the exhaustion of like going over Mr. Big for another time, which we get to in later an episode, but also in a way to convince herself. Like when you go through a traumatic event, sometimes afterwards, even if you're still experiencing a grief of the event, you will often denote being like, uh, you know what? Like I'm totally fine. And I've actually never felt better. And what I'm feeling is awesome and I'm mature. And in reality, you're not feeling those at all, but you have to kind of stay out loud. So you can at least pretend. Yeah, because, um, affirmations, like you have to live the lot. Yes, you have to live the lot. Every night when we go to sleep, people are 10 more asleep before we fall asleep. Yeah. Oh, well, think about that. Am I doing that? Like you're shutting the lights out and closing your eyes and maybe that's the secret if I can't sleep. No, no, no, no. You're like, I didn't know everything was doing that, um, but yeah. So it's so sweet. We were we reminded that these four are such supportive friends because, um, we refer to Natasha as the idiot stick figure with no soul. And then everybody goes one by one around the table and it's like, yeah, fuck that girl. Who I think we've talked about this before, but, um, when we see her in this episode, she's definitely the, like, the idol of Carolyn Bissett, Kennedy, right? Oh, totally, especially since they don't let her talk. Yeah, at least structured minimalist, uh, aesthetic. Yeah, they're trying to make her like larger than life, like more perfect than all these girls within our worlds. They won't show hers because we want to hate her. I know. It's interesting. In a way, you have to, it's, yeah, I mean, we talked about this a lot, but it really, it's an interesting motif, I think, especially because it's like so culturally prominent still. Of like, to watch this, like, moment, it's like having a resurgence. Like, you know, Carol from Real Housewives of New York. Yes. Her book, like recently, like, was on the charts again because it is a whole incident. It's just interesting to see that 90s come back into this, like, guys. Yeah, especially knowing what we know now. Yeah, what we know now, please. It's so fun to look back at old stuff. You know what I know now, uh, Steve showed up to Miranda's door. Knock, knock, knock. Oh my god. This is one, this is my favorite sequence in this whole episode. When she cries, she goes like this. He knocks on her door and she goes, it's so funny. He goes, see, you ran away from me the other day. And when I was like, sorry, I guess I don't know too. With my exes, like, sometimes I freeze and sometimes I just get out of there. And he goes, but I'm not your ex. I held your head when you sleep. And then that's what gets her to sort of crying. To me, that's even creepy. No, if a man said that to me, if an ex said that to me, I'd be like, yeah, held your head when you sleep. What does that even mean? Is that what you remember about a relationship like? Like if that's the most romantic thing going on a relationship, good red ends. Ultimately. What does it mean to held your head when you sleep? I think like it's just the idea of being like held very sweetly and like the most precious part of you was held. Oh my god. Okay, actually, I'm in tears. But Miranda's like, sorry, I'm bad with ex-wave friends. I'm such a shitty person. And then he goes, I wasn't a shitty figure. I just gel up at your front door. Yeah, and then she's like, that was shitty. We're both shitty, should we kiss? Well, then, and then Steve goes, oh, you got a bat in the cave. Oh my god. When he said that, I rewinded 10 seconds because I was like, he did not just say that to her. You got a bat in the cave. Meaning, by the way, just a refresher, a booger in the nose. And then she's like embarrassed in the bullet in a barrel. Okay, a bat in the cave. I've never heard that. Oh my god, it's just cruel. And the only thing, actually, it's like, thank God, we can leave this cruel moment and lead to a fun moment. We just Charlotte were really hurting herself as a horse girl. Did you laugh out loud when it was like, okay, season finale, what are all the storylines going to be? And they're like, so Charlotte this episode is going to like be sad about her horse. Like, oh my god. And you know, it's a Michael Patrick King episode because there's so many ponds like, because then it's like, then we got horse motif ponds throughout the rest of the episode. Oh my god, and they were good. This is a tight script. I will say it's just so. Wait, what was Charlotte's horse's name? Tatty. Tatty bucked her off and she didn't win the blue collar, but broke her collar bone. And y'all, I can't emphasize enough. When we are mentioning a horse, this is not a metaphor. There is a literal horse that Charlotte is like going on in her own journey way. Please, it's her boyfriend. And in this episode, she's a horse fucker. She's a horse fucker. I will say when they show her running through Central Park and she sees her horse, the athlete sure she's wearing is generational. I mean, it was done. I was like, why can't I low do this? Like the giant logo industry? Yeah, it's fantastic. I loved it. I will say, what do you think Charlotte would do with finding out all these horses are dying in Central Park? I know. Can we keep exhaustion? I know. She has to know. No, the thing is she knew she'd be lodging warfare. I don't know. She's not an activist. I'm not sure when it comes to animals. She is. Right. And you see her when she gets into Judaism. White women love to be like, we've got to save the animals. I love white women do white women jokes. That's by the way, it's like, well, white women do white women love to be like, when white women, white women, I do that too, please. We love to be like, we have to help the animals. And it's like, we should help the people to maybe, right? Hello, come on. I don't know why not. Let's cut to our first break. And when we get back, we will kind of jump into Samantha's whole deal. And we're back. Okay, it's talking about we were talking about horse metaphor. So Samantha leaves her apartment. By the way, already has two shopping bags in hand.
Right make that makes sense. She she found those on her way Way to the shops. No, that's actually it's good The lobby of her building one to it goes right to the protestor like in front of it gazes into it It's a good representation of how it is to be a girl because you walk outside and you're like okay I'm gonna go shopping before you get to the shop. You just spent $70 on God Yes, you're assaulted with commerce. Yes, I know because women on unfortunately on unfortunately Link control a d a person of the buying power to America. I know I Have no income But yeah, so the the horse metaphor is of course to Samantha spots a stallion He was just like a buff guy. He's cute. They have a neat cute. Do you call that a neat cute if you don't run into them? She's meeting the horse. I don't know what she's meeting is. I don't think he's cute. He's hot, you know He's meeting hot. Well, this is my thing is a neat. Cute only when you drop the textbook. Or could it be what happened? It's like anything that's not hinge Okay, so what's the point? I mean cute is anything. That's not Text to phone, but his dick is so big. I will say this for this vision of a neat cute is M-E-A-T. Yeah, meet huh? Yeah, the meet hook. Oh God, I know Oh, yeah later when Samantha's like we tried to hook up. He wasn't able to hook in But yeah, Samantha's like I don't usually give my number out to some random man on the street Where's the fuck did you get those bags and beat come on girl? You got business cards made up for a reason I wish we could do like a fan edit of all the times in the last two seasons She's met someone in the street She's so coy. She's a rock star and I guess the whole premise is that like Samantha doesn't ever want to make a male friend so she has to fuck them or she can't talk to them Yeah, it's just kind of her like delineating which I like that as her plot line Yeah, it's interesting. It's like a fun Exploratory thing. Well famously carries only one that actually has male friends in this show Yeah, except for Charlotte has one gay guy which we haven't seen Stanford in a minute I actually wrote down on my outlining. Oh, where is Stanford? Yeah, I kind of miss him They only need him when it's like when they need to a they got to go to E line They got to get or something really bad had to have just happened to carry so he can be like come to this party with me girl Okay, it's like so funny. It's like when you're when you're when you're talked about your ex so much with your your main group of friends You turn to the gay guy It's like representation Okay, so Carrie makes her first called a big after running into him in the Hamptons Oh my god, and they agreed to go to lunch which by the way, it was slapstick physical comedy Imagine if Carrie had access to text It would be I mean Instagram story. No, imagine access to voice attacks. Oh my god You can't let a writer text. It would be so fun to have a scene of big listening to Carrie's boys That was a meme like I yeah, I'm not crazy woman. Imagine having like call your access. I would never do it You put the only way you could actually get in contact with them without running into them. It's just I mean It's to call them up. I Will say I do love like a drop call like I love to just call someone. I love that she dropped calls And then she's like fuck big has color I see And then she calls back and she's like I don't know what happened Again, it's like it's a metaphor for our technology. It's the enemy. Oh, yeah Oh, yeah, even caller ID something so simple as I can take a girl out see now. It's fine mind, but back then it was caller ID We live in hell. We live in hell, but okay, so they go to lunch, right? And Well first first The tosser picks up right and then Carrie goes on the phone. She goes. I sorry. I just didn't even know how to like Talk to you right do you mind if I guess give you a speech like there's a writer in her voice attack by the way I'm like that is so real. That was their version of a voice memo. She's like I want to talk But yeah, if I wasn't a Tasha, I'd be like maybe not big buddy like don't go to lunch with your ex No, literally, but and then if you're gonna go to lunch with your ex is so funny for her to make the reservation at the most expensive restaurant in New York City Under her name because she's a girl bus Well, like if you're gonna bring your rich ex out you would take them to the mostly expensive restaurant in New York City If you were to meet up with your ex would you wear Madison Park? Yes Would you wear a pink gown now? She did Yeah, cuz she's a girl who can look so like she's a girl who's always worn a dress when the occasion was for jeans and she gets away with it because curly hair Mm-hmm. Well, she's just effortlessly stylish. It's an amazing line. We're in this book recently. It's the Evabits sex and rage Where she talking about her editor and it's like Every girl is trying to get her editor and her editor is like the ultimate cool girl like a Carrie Bradshaw type To every girl is trying to cut up to her plum aesthetic, but the moment they got her plum she was just a rosy pink. Oh my god So Carrie Bradshaw Let's paint that on the wall. Wonderful. Yeah Is that a good book should I read it sex and rage? Yeah, people don't think it's like one of everyone It's not everyone's favorite Eve Babits book but all of e-babbits books in my favorite book doesn't have anything to do with me Yeah, yeah, you would love it. It's like all about depression It's about the two big the three seams in it or alcoholism creative creative Pursuits and depression and New York vs. L.A. Oh my god. It's all about New York vs. L.A I'm getting off the pod right now to go on living and get it Okay, so what I love about this lunch scene and this is my amazing bullet point that I made was that being drinking during the pod Absolutely the first pod to get dropped. I don't think we'll be the first We shouldn't be the last either. Let's finally do our original podcast ID which is rooms every episode Okay, I find I've a friend who I've been doing a girl. Don't worry I have a friend who her and her boyfriend are growing massive amounts of shrooms in their apartment and they'll give me a bunch of free so I could really hook us up They could be our sponsor for the pod because last time I took shrooms I thought scandal is happening to me let's get back there Okay, so big is so nervous and the way they show this in the script is that big is like I heard the cops Salah's really good here and he says it twice He says it twice and I'm like that is what I do in real life remember when I was nervous that one time and kept being like The one time I was nervous. Yeah, in Rhode Island when I kept being like When you bought the $300 sweater by accident. Yeah, that's you know when I was like That's so cool or something. I said something so many times over. Oh my god Yes, when we're talking to Bob the drag queens manager It said that's awesome. No, that's literally awesome. That's awesome. That's awesome. Like maybe 11 times It would know you're an intrapol Triple it. So I said that's awesome about 33 times I mean when we got invited to that brand trip is the only out-of-state comedians I mean out-of-state influencers on the day's the brand trip to a comedy festival They wouldn't book us the news and up it really brings like hey, we're comedians. It's a comedy festival would and they're like no We want you to go to restaurants and take pictures of me And we get to be financed were the only people from not from Rhode Island. They invited Whatever I love it. I love a free stay in an a-loss Okay, so Carrie at the beginning of the episode she's writing her article and she goes Can you be friends with an X what plus what equals friendship with an X and then here she does a voice over and she's like After one hour. I realized to the answer to my equation Scotch equals friendship with an X and they're giggling and they're laughing and they're having a great time and we're really pumped and then Carrie's like alcohol. I know. Oh my God. I always have the best time when I am drinking alcohol I know and the worst like sometimes. Well the worst is after oh my god It's I really I don't want to go for like I'm talking watching me to pump rules for the first time and like There's a relationship that very much parallels Mr. Big and Carrie Bradshaw and it also hinges on alcohol. It's Katie and Tom for people that let watch. I'll get into it later, but for the Patreon So basically Carrie's like how's Natasha and then he's like she's good and then Carrie's like wait No, let's promise to never talk about anyone. We're dating until it's really serious and then it goes Carrie It is serious. Oh We're engaged. I broke me in several different pieces. Can you I mean Carrie of course freaks out and usually we're like Carrie needs to fucking relax She should have freaked out more. She should have been throwing like five months He said he couldn't commit to her as like a girlfriend and then he goes off and Mary is a 25 year old after five years I'm glad mind you. Oh my little daughter. Is this me off? I did hear that. I was like needle drop That's Evan school. We they said it this episode. Yeah, I think so. No, they said too late. They did Yeah, it's like when oh, yeah, no, it's like when they go to that lunch and I'm not cautious doing the release Wait, oh, but it doesn't matter. No correct me if I'm wrong. Okay. It's when they go to the luncheon. It's the
Natasha's on the board for some woman's group. And then she meets one of Natasha's friends. And then she talks about how they were roommates freshman year. Or to live on the same floor and everyone loved Natasha. And I remember it was the same day. The same way I got into Tulane as a transfer student, I watched it episode. And I remember taking a photo of you like, and yeah, Natasha went to Tulane. (laughing) Am I Finsad counts? - Oh, I missed Finsad. - I missed Finsad. Some girls have it. - Yeah, you know what? We should get back into it. But Carrie obviously freaks out. She storms out the restaurant, but not before like falling out of a chair and down the stairs and being like, how fucking dare you. And she should be like that. And bigs like, we know it's a really good line. - Oh yeah. - I mean, it could be a children's book this scene specifically. - Yeah. Anyways, then we cut to Carrie being depressed with a smoke in the stables, where she's gone with Charlotte to get her to get back on the horse literally. I broke big in and now Natasha gets to ride him. There we go with the horse, my horse. - I love her, it is. - But Carrie goes, trying to be friendly with an ex, you wind up knee deep and shit 'cause she stepped in horse shit. Mind you, she's in heels and a halter to go to the stables, which where do you-- - I'm in the horse, is he old? - Do you think there's stables just somewhere? - Somewhere in New York. - Central Park. - Okay, 'cause when they run out of there, I'm like with them. I mean, there's horse stables in the park. I don't know. I guess you can still ride sometimes there. - Yeah, well anyway, Charlotte's in an adorable horse writing outfit and then she goes to get on the horse and she freaks out and runs out kind of Miranda style. And Carrie again is like, sorry. - Well, my airport is seen as when Carrie is smoking a cigarette and the most amazing character actors and the other side of the glass guys. - Ta, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da. - I'll scare her, I guess. Oh great, no cigarettes here either. - It's so good. - It's kind of awesome. - That woman was amazing. Even without any lines, she left the last thing memory. So any expiring actors there, there's no small parts, there's only small actors. - I agree, because Evan, I clocked out as well. And I was like, well, I'm sure it's just me. Like Evan won't even bring it up. And then-- - Oh, it was amazing. - Yeah, he's like, okay, so we both saw her. - So you didn't even want to see a woman. Don't you dare. So she's fucking dare. - Okay, so Samantha cuts over to Samantha. - She sees her biggest cock ever, and honey, it doesn't fit. - And she goes, you dated Mr. Bag. I'm dating Mr. Too Bag. - And then Carrie goes, first, it was too small. Then it was too big. Who are you? Goldie Cox. - Mrs. Goldie Cox. - They have fun. - When she puts that fake ax, like when she adds base to her voice, and she gets a little serious. - Yeah. - Oh, Carrie really does a lot of it. Like, Sarah Tiske Parker does fantastic voice choices. - Oh, yeah. - And she gets a more comfortable role of Carrie. She likes to explore with that. Like, you couldn't tell if she's a true actress, 'cause she always loves like enhanced a role. Adding new voices. - It's just like, every single episode we watch, I am just amazed at how good these women are at delivering their lions. - I know. - 'Cause you believe them, and it's like, honey, that's a joke. - No, in Samantha's answer to Mr. Goldie Cox is like, yeah, I like it just right. So good. But yeah, this reminded me of, of course, the Blake Riffin episode of Broad Studies, where a lot is like, it just won't fit. And it's like-- - It's like, epidemic. - It's fun to see, like, different shows cover the situation differently. - Well, and actually this reminds me of when Charlie sees Adam's penis for the first time in a fur coat. - Oh. - He's like, what? - Is that a penis? Or your club maybe seals with that thing. (laughs) - Do you remember that episode, a dick pic episode? - Oh. - It's like episode three. - Where Charlie says that when he looks at the iPhone. - Yeah, if I go to Adam's penis. - A good old day. - I know. - She's walking in Central Park with Carrie after this, attempted hookup, right? And she goes, I was scared to put my mouth anywhere near it. I knew it would cause lock jaw. (laughs) That's amazing. - Okay, I don't, like, I know what lock jaw is conceptually. I'm always scared I'm gonna get it in my life. I just don't know how, why, or why. It's like a exhaustion of a muscle that leaves your mouth open. - So, I actually don't know, and what I've been guessing my whole life and assuming it is, is when you open it so far, it cracks into a wrong place, and then it's stuck like that. - It's like a, yeah, but here's it. Do you know how you undo it? - It's the same, I'm imagining it the same way, a girl whose shoulder always pops out of the socket, right? - She pushed it back in. - No, you like had this stretcher jaw further. So they're like, we'll add popsicles to his mouth and they just keep inserting one until it goes so far that like the jaw like has to react and like goes back up, like it's a reflex. - That's absolutely horrifying. - I know, weird. - I don't like it one bit. - Okay, I know, sorry. - Okay, anyways. - I've been my side-installed here. - Let's cut over to Miranda and Steve hooking up, and Steve is being flirty as hell, OMG, he's like. - He's like stole this scene with benefits with me Lekunis and Justin Timberlake. - Oh, I was gonna bring up that movie, I never saw it, but there was like that year no strings attached and friends with benefits came out in this. - It's more of an action-culture actually. - Same poster, different girl. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. 'Cause action-culture is with the demi-more of it all. - Yeah, that was such a fun era of movies. You didn't know at the time that movies wouldn't always be this way. - Oh, they're so good. And I love that they came out at the same time. I do love in Hollywood when there was an idea and then so do it, so do it at the same time. - Doesn't it happen a lot? - They're all thinking. - What just happened? We just got something like that. - Jordan Firstman? - Oh no, I'm thinking. - It's very different. - I'm thinking of like Marvel. But I'm excited to see his movie. - You were thinking of Marvel. (laughing) - That's why I-- - What the hell are you talking? - That's why I don't know the details of the movie. - You're a damn girl. - Anyway, they hook because Steve is like, do friends kiss here, do friends kiss here, and Miranda's so turned on and she's like, fuck, I need him. And so they hook up and they're like, what are we? And she's like, we're friends who hook up. And then-- - When do friends kiss you here? And when they kiss on the lips, she goes, yeah, friends kiss on the lips. - I was like, into it, into it, into it. And I was like, oh, you guys. - It's funny. - I fell out of it. - And I tell Miranda, it's like being central. I am like, what the hell? - Yeah. - Come on, girl. - But, you know what, cut to Samantha, she is determined to get this cock inside of her. She's like, if anyone can do it, I can. - I really couldn't watch this scene. I was like, I just knew it's gonna lead to failure and it's hard to like go back there. - Oh, you didn't want to see it. Well, she smokes weed and she takes two advanced yoga classes in preparation. - And she drinks something called Hawaiian gold? - No, Hawaiian gold, I searched it up. It's like a Sativa weed. - Oh, okay, so that's the weed of it. - Yeah. - Okay. - And then he sticks it in and she's like, okay. And then he's like, okay, are you ready? And she's like, it's not all the way in. And he goes, no. - And it is like a horrifying descriptor. - So scary. - So scary. - And she's like, oh, no. - And so it's like a L fantasies are better left. - Oh yeah. - And like all my fantasies, I'm like, if I was to live these would be a complete nightmare, but it's amazingly kind of time to think about them. - That is so true. Samantha's dream of a big cock being like realized and then her having to stay there defeated and say, let's just be friends. I mean, that's really what it is. Your dreams come true and then it's a nightmare. - For her to keep comparing it to Mount Everest. She's family-made at the base camp. (laughing) - And then- - Which is also funny because I'm like, also amazing thing about Mount Everest is there's a lot of bodies left behind. Oh my God. - Oh my God, yeah, I found out about- - Yeah, you saw that. - The details surrounding Mount Everest and the people who work on the mountain. I'm very- - It's like a very selfish act. - Yeah, it's very selfish. Okay, Charlotte finds the strength to ride Pau, the new horse. She's like, you know what, I gotta get back on the horse. And so she does. - Pau, of course, is like a hot, ladded name. - I do have to wonder. She just hops on a horse in the middle of Central Park near nothing and just trawl ups away. Is that allowed? - Trawl ups. - It's such a good word. Yeah, I guess- - You're using like, there's certain times and you can, there's, it's like upper Manhattan, like the top, upper Central Park to have horse staples, you can ride a horse. - I've just never been in- - Like the thing is- - Central Park. - It's okay, you're just not going past museum mile. Like, it, that's okay. - Yeah. - Thanks for saying it's okay. Because I don't think I've been past museum mile. It's true. - Yeah, you have, and that's okay. (laughing) - Yeah, big calls carry to apologize about the engagement and carry is doing the thing where she's listening to him leave a message and not picking up. And then he's like, I would never hurt- - I would never hurt- - I would never hurt you deliberately. And then she made a pick up and says, I know you wouldn't, I said, girl. - I just want to silence the lay-up. So it's like, it's like an exact speech a Hannibal Lecter does. - Is that Hannibal Lecter's from- - Silence of the lay-up? - Yeah. - I have no idea those were connected. - I know, it's kind of one and the same. (laughing) - Is it not like a really sad or scary movie? - People really, my brother said it's the scariest thing I've ever seen. I said, I could have watched that in complete darkness. I like, I could have watched that in the middle of a riot. Like, I don't know why I'm trying to- I'm trying to say it's like, it wasn't that scary for me. - Well, I will say, the discount movie theater in my hometown, I went to ones to watch a children's film. Bye.
I think it might have been Nanny McFee even, and 15 minutes go by and we're like, this is the scariest trailer. Why is it so long? They had started playing Silence of the Lamb in the Kids Movie Theater, and they had to be like, "Sorry, we'll play Nanny McFee now." Terrifying. I mean, Melissa has a better plot device. She says, "Teach the kid something." Nanny McFee was awesome. No, it is. I'm sorry. Take it up by director. Take it back. And then, so, Kerry gets invited to the engagement branch. Personally, I'm just thinking about like my parents, like, if my dad invited my mom to his wedding, that was six months after they got divorced, I would be like, lock them up. Like, I just don't think that's okay to do. No, but it's fairly metropolitan, maybe friends with their exes, and they're always like feigning coldness towards each other, but like, ultimately leads in their own destruction. It's part of the little game of life that happens on that island. I know. Downtown culture, like, ultimately leads in like the emotional reckoning of millions. I mean, that's why people have to leave the city. That's more constantly going to Philly. Yeah, they can't play these games anymore. No, but you know what? I love, so we had the diner sing at the beginning. Now, we got to get the Cosmo Girl meetup, right? To kind of summarize the episode. It's so funny. And this is like one of the cuter Cosmo scenes, when you guys, oh my god, where did they have cocktails? I just love that it's, you know, a show like this pre-mumble core takes the time in this scene to just fully say the summary of the movie, the way we were, and then have three out of four of the girls break into the song for about a full 30 seconds. We've lost the art of media referring to other media. I know. I know. We don't have media media. Well, I don't think we've lost the art. Okay, fine. We have it. Okay. I was like, isn't that TikTok's like whole thing? But so they talk about the way we were, which have you seen it? No, actually have it. Samantha's not seen it either because she says it's a chick film. Literally my reasoning. My heart broke in real time. Sorry, I like silence it all day. I'm looking to watch the way we were. I said, Samantha, you would love Aqua Marine. You've got to check it out. Same director. Same director. But they're talking about the Robert Hubble. And they're like big as Hubble. And so basically they explain the plot to Samantha. They're like Barbara Streisand's too crazy because she has curly hair. So the guy marries a simple girl who has straight hair. And so Carrie's kind of summarizing. There's the simple girls and the Katie girls. And she's a Katie girl. Is it ever lost on you that you have straight hair and I have curly hair? My hair is curly. I just straighten it because of society. Keep it simple. That's a live with our girls. Sometimes I have to flatten myself down to be more palatable to the nation. See, I'm Barbara. I don't do that. Yeah. It's cool that you get a name you're Katie. I'm just simple. And then they're singing some song and Samantha's like, okay, totally girls. And then she kind of cries and is like, I miss James, which is the small penis. Everywhere you go, there you are. I'd say. But then the episode of course ends with Carrie talking to Big outside of his engagement party because she didn't make it. She went as it was ending and Big's about to get in the car with his fiance. I do want to talk about like how much women are so well-equipped at dealing with. I didn't manage to do this too, but like women are so good at like scraping over the same details over and over again, like in nausea almost. Like the whole sequence is like Carrie talking about her like a flexion with Big all over again. And then the girls kind of hearing the story echoed for the umphine at the time. And they like ultimately taken and stride. And I only have like 10 times of me, but I hear the same story for the 11th time. I go into my like a light psychosis. Right. And I just honestly, I give it kudos to these girls. I've seen you do that with me and my stories. I can't handle it too much. Once I tell you a story in 11th time, you really do get fed up. That's me who fucking crazy. Literally. You literally, you shake your hands to get it away. I don't like it. I just really enough. That's me. I feel like a waste of time. I know. That's a difference as we know. I can't keep living in the past. And I want to kind of live in the past because you can't hold the present or the future, but you can hold the past. And a fendee baguette. So I love that Carrie is wearing a white slip to the engagement party symbolism. Oh, pretty. And then Big is like nervous. Walks up to Carrie and says, I thought by the time I got here, I would know what to say. Aqua taco. And then Carrie asked why wasn't it me? And Big goes, I don't know, it just got hard and she's dot, dot, dot, simple. He doesn't say simple, but it's inferred. And then Carrie goes, your girl is lovely, Hubble. And he goes, what the hell are you talking about? He goes, I don't get it. And she goes, I don't get it. And you never did. Oh my god, that hit me like a ton of bricks. And this is one of my favorite tropes in sexuality. She walks away like speaking in like metaphors and tongues while there's like Spanish, top-est music playing above it. It's my favorite thing in a show. She actually ends the episode by singing, I can't be tamed. I can't be tamed. Oh, it's so good. I love when she says, well, maybe some women aren't meant to be tamed. Totally icon. Amazing sentence. But she goes, maybe I didn't break big. Maybe the problem is he couldn't break me. Literally. My notes are not sentenced. Yes. It's a Liza song. It's like how Audrey Holbert won't repeat a verse exact same way twice. Yes. She's saying the same thing just a little bit differently this time. I love when she goes. But for the sake of the song, let's throw it back to the course. Now here we go. Oh, exactly. I fumbled that a little. It's okay. Like with Liza, you're a lot of missquil. That was Audrey. I was quoting. Yeah, you can even do it so bad. You can use Audrey Holbert. No, it can happen to anyone. We're going to catch our second break of me about people close at this perfect episode. And we're back. Amelia, I have a question for you. Girl, what? Girl are you? I said that I am Miranda because I love to physically run away from my past. No, seconds ago, you said you let the hold your pass. Are you holding it while running, girl? That makes you triathlete. So actually, something about being a woman is you can hold two true set ones. And this is an example of that. So basically, yes, I hold on to the past, but I also run from it by moving to different countries and cities to escape. But you haven't moved in several years. So maybe I'm not Miranda anymore. No, but I'm not. This gets you moved for one time for college, and one time you have to LA during the height of COVID. You're right. I've only lived in four, five cities. We've all lived in that many. That's how many cities I've lived in. Okay. So it's like mean that my parents say that I am addicted to running away from myself. Just because you don't live in Texas. Oh, so it's a personal thing. That's not true. It's like you would have left if you were running away. You've been in New York for five years or whatever. Well, you know, I thought about London. We all think about London, Amelia. I have actual people running away constantly. Girl, what girl are you? I said, um, I am Carrie, because my curly hair is a manifestation of my hard love. Oh, your curly hair is an outward manifestation of my hard love of how it's hard to love you. Well, I think the whole thing is like, it's like the love is hard. It's not hard to love. The love is hard. That's like the difference they're talking about, like, how in the movie, Barbara Switzer isn't like the she's not on loves by, um, Hubble is that the love is hard. Right. And people like when love is easy. Yeah. That's kind of heartbreaking. We don't think it's fine. You're not hard to love. No, I, that's again, but why is it my point? Never said that. I guess I'm holding two truths. I'm a woman. So, um, I'm Amelia. What are you like getting cared away with? Don't. Sorry. I'm being here just in a park where I'm doing choices when I act as acting as all about choices. Yes. I was going to say you can't be a soprano in front of me because I'm stuck being an out to my whole life. Well, sorry. Don't use your diaphragm so much. Well, don't be a bitch. I'm not being a bitch. I'm just being myself. What I'm getting carried away with is this episode woke me up to the fact that we aren't physically running away from our problems enough because our problems are usually like in our phones or in our heads. These divas, all of them running away, carry runs out of our restaurant, Charlotte runs out of the stable. Miranda runs down the street like, we are not doing, I'm not doing physicality. I'm living too much like, like online. I don't, I'm not running this. It's not even online. It's that we are generation and because the beauty standards are so severe that we've lost our mind body.
connection. Oh my god. Yeah. I took a 45 minute mobility class yesterday. And you only got it just closer. I know. It just reminded me of like my ribs and how I have shoulders for the first time ever. Well also, do you think that your response isn't flight? It's maybe it's fight. Well, what's what's making you say that? Why is that coming up? There's two options. There's four and you said it's not the first one. It's the second one. No, I do fight. I am known to fight. I'm an area is after all. Just to close out my carry-to-way, it's like Charlotte runs out of that stable honey. Where's your purse? Where are your keys at each table? Where's your purse? You're going to have to go back to the stable and face it. If you don't remember to bring your bag with you, you know? A plot hole. I'm fed up. I'm fed up. What are you getting carried away with? Well, I kind of just said mine in my mirror moments ago where I was talking about women's ability to hold the repeating of stories with so much more resilience. But I guess. Oh, sorry. No, no, it's not I like it's my fault. I ultimately built it like that. But I guess I would also like to talk about 11 medicine park constantly going back and forth between veganism. A lot like my friend actually over here. So 11 medicine park was rated the number one restaurant in New York City for a while. That's the name of the restaurant. That's where I eat in this episode. It's very big. And it was like probably it's by restaurant tour Danny Myers, who also I believe is the creator of Shake Shack. I love Shake Shack. Yeah. And so it kind of was like the this the gleaming palace on top of the hill of this restaurant. Like it was the pit of me of like New York City culinary scene and probably even across the world. Like it was rated the top restaurant in the world for a while. Oh, is this the guy the Michelin star guy that was like I'm going vegan with it? Yeah. So he had a three star restaurant. Yeah, three. There's only like a few three star Michelin restaurants in the world. And he's changed 11 medicine park to veganism. But to push the narrative that like high-end food can be sustainable. Yeah. And did you learn this? I'm fortunate that it failed. Did you learn this from the documentary you watched together where they made identical twins like one go vegan and one not? No, we didn't watch it together. We did. We did. Yeah. Right here on this couch. Oh my god. Yeah, probably. Oh my god. I don't know. Maybe I may have always known about the veganism and I love the magic. Oh, that's what I remember. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. So that's the restaurant that they're at. That's crazy. Yeah. So I guess my point is this guy created Shake Shack. Yes. The restaurant toward any money. Which she did. Blue smoke as well. I love Shake Shack. But I will say there's also other people involved. Obviously. The crinkle fries don't always do what you're hoping they will when you decide to spend the six dollars on them. Yes. Do you know what I mean? You're getting cared away twice as I was. Thank you guys so much for listening to this episode of Girls Rewash. Any closing thoughts? I guess like the whole thing with Eleven Madison Park is like I would love for someone to try to figure out sustainability and high-end culinary. Do you think it's going to be lab-grown meats? What's the future? Lab-grown meats are actually like extremely unenvironmental right now. Not extremely, but somewhat because they can take so much energy and water to create. I mean, they're actually I guess they're better alternatives, but it's like you create such slow paces right now. It's like it's not environment. Well, remember how big the computer used to be? Wait, do you know speaking of climate week tomorrow? You're speaking of climate week tomorrow. The UN climate week tomorrow. I emailed them asking for like a media pass. I was like, Girls Rewash would love to cover climate week. And then they're like, actually, would you want to be on a panel? I was like, yes! What are you going to talk about? A content creation is a tool of reckoning with climate change. And that's what Girls Rewash pod has done. We do stand for that. We are so sustainable. We have a point right now, it's about environmentalism. And we're literally we're going to recycle these pieces of paper. No, we are not. We always forget to do that. We should. We can't really recycle paper that has ink on it, though. Like just unversychable. Is that true? Well, that doesn't vote well for all of us. I know. So yeah. Well, thank you guys so much for listening or excited to be back for fall. And we'll be back with season three next week and a fun returning guest. Bye. Bye.
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Key Points:
The episode explores the complex dynamics of female friendships, past relationships, and emotional resilience, highlighting how characters navigate trauma, rejection, and self-discovery.
Central themes include the metaphor of horses representing emotional struggles, especially Charlotte’s journey to reconnect with her past and rebuild trust after trauma.
Carrie’s storyline centers on the tension between emotional vulnerability and self-assertion, particularly in her failed attempt to be friends with an ex and her eventual realization that love is hard, not easy.
Samantha’s encounter with a man whose "dick is too big" reflects her fear of intimacy and her struggle to form genuine male friendships, symbolizing broader societal pressures on women’s autonomy.
The show critiques toxic relationship tropes, such as “friends with benefits,” by showing how emotional survival often involves denial, evasion, or physical flight.
The narrative touches on powerful feminist themes like the performative nature of femininity, the pressure to conform to beauty standards, and the disconnect between physical and emotional well-being.
A key moment is Carrie’s final confrontation with Big, where she sings "I Can't Be Tamed," symbolizing her refusal to be defined by a failed relationship or societal expectations.
The episode reflects on how generational trauma, media representation, and digital culture contribute to emotional stagnation and the need for real, physical action to reclaim agency.
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The episode of *Girls* revisits foundational themes of female identity, emotional resilience, and relationship dynamics through a richly layered narrative. Characters confront past traumas in distinct ways: Charlotte struggles with her trauma from a horse-related accident, seeking to rebuild her connection to horses as a symbol of emotional healing; Carrie grapples with a failed romance with Big, ultimately realizing that love is not about fitting into expectations but about self-assertion. Samantha’s awkward encounter with a man whose size overwhelms her reflects her broader fear of intimacy and her societal conditioning to avoid male friendships.
The show critiques modern relationship norms, especially "friends with benefits," by showing how they often mask deeper emotional avoidance. The narrative also highlights the physical and emotional toll of living in a media-saturated culture, where women are pressured to perform beauty and control. A standout moment is Carrie’s final scene, where she sings “I Can’t Be Tamed” as a declaration of independence and defiance against being defined by past relationships.
, 11 Madison Park’s vegan shift) and the environmental impact of food systems. Ultimately, the episode serves as both a nostalgic reflection and a timely commentary on how women navigate emotional survival, trauma, and self-worth in a world that often demands conformity. It underscores the importance of physical action, emotional honesty, and breaking free from cycles of avoidance—offering a deeply resonant message about reclaiming autonomy in relationships and life.
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The episode explores complex female relationships, including friendships with exes, emotional healing, and the challenges of navigating love and self-worth. It highlights how women respond to past relationships with different emotional strategies like flight, fight, or freeze.
Each character reacts differently: Miranda runs away (flight), Samantha fights, and Charlotte freezes. These reactions reflect various trauma responses and show how women process emotional connections with past partners.
The horse motif symbolizes emotional healing and personal growth. Charlotte's journey back to riding horses represents her recovery from childhood trauma and her effort to reclaim her confidence and independence.
It shows how women navigate complicated emotional dynamics with exes, including tension, jealousy, and the power of metaphor. The scene underscores the difficulty of maintaining emotional boundaries and the fear of vulnerability.
The girls support each other through their struggles, offering empathy and shared experiences. The episode emphasizes that women are strong in their ability to repeat and reframe stories, showing resilience in the face of emotional pain.
Humor is used to lighten emotional moments, such as the absurdity of Steve’s 'bat in the cave' comment or the exaggerated reactions during dinner scenes, grounding the narrative in relatability and shared experience.
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