Sex and the City S2E1: “Take Me Out to the Ball Game” with Marty Miller and Missy McIntosh
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The episode of *Girls Rewatch* explores the emotional complexities of relationships, breakups, and self-discovery through a humorous yet heartfelt baseball-themed storyline. Characters like Carrie, Miranda, and Charlotte navigate their personal lives, confronting issues such as past heartbreaks, superficial dating choices, and the difficulty of emotional honesty. The narrative emphasizes how friendships shape personal growth, with Carrie's journey highlighting the role of validation in new relationships, even when romantic attraction is absent. The episode uses absurd, exaggerated moments—like Charlotte buying underwear to fix a boyfriend’s ball-scratching or Samantha’s struggle with a tiny penis—to critique societal norms around dating and attraction. These jokes reveal deeper truths about emotional vulnerability, identity, and how people cope with loss. The show also explores self-image through fashion and grooming, such as Carrie’s evolving hair, which mirrors her emotional state. Brand promotions, including Honeylove, Shopify, and BJ’s, are integrated naturally into the characters’ lives, reflecting real-world consumer habits. Ultimately, the episode blends humor and sincerity to show how personal growth occurs not through grand gestures, but through small, everyday choices and honest conversations. The tone remains warm and reflective, celebrating the resilience of friendship and the messy, often humorous process of healing.
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how you can't just ask him out it's like watch me she's like yanky
i have three beers i'm the fiercest girl alive
welcome back to girls rewatch a podcast about girls tv and girls on tv i'm amelia retaller and
i'm evan lazarus and today we are doing season two oh my god we're finally here episode one
take me out to the ball game holy shit oh my god and who are we joined by we have not one but two
oh my two
girls two girls two girls one cup wait i have to do something i have to change my outfit oh okay
okay wait you guys can start but i'm just gonna do okay okay so joining us on the pod today
it's missy and marty hey no offense but we're here girl on girl the way i googled is it their
real names because i had to put government names on the security list and i was like there's no
way there's that much alliteration with them it's true it's true i actually think yeah i'm actually
martin and they kind of gave me a hard time for that oh and i'm actually melissa fuck no that's
fine but that's sorry yeah i kind of was like maybe flirting with the security guy don't you
feel like the security guys here are like down to play oh hey i felt like it was like
appropriate for an episode itself yeah it's gonna might take me out to the ball park
uh saying hi uh brb
i did it in my way well you guys are so appropriately too
this is a total accident like it's girl it's girl it's girl you know is this your brand or the tv
show this is this is our brand so lena dunham made girls and then you guys made girl just one
that girl is us yeah oh my god girl is so important yeah i agree and did the girl rewatch
at all this episode the season two episode one yeah of course are you are you guys caring about
sex in the city like what's your journey deeply yeah deeply deeply i've watched it a million and
six times yeah i just recently kind of watched it like for real all the way through okay like
in the past few years but i like don't think i've ever watched the actual last episode right because
i'm like don't want to do it you're like boys with the sopranos yeah exactly you have adhc
yes it's a symptom of unmedicated hard to finish yeah projects yeah i don't finish
anything good for you please i literally don't i'm more sex in the city than i am girls i'll be
honest really yeah that is where i live you don't read that way okay it's beautiful to hear you even
say that and i would say i started i started as a girls okay yeah what are you where did you start
that was my journey i started with girls i this is actually my first time watching the show full
all the way through oh are you serious yeah oh that's amazing it's been amazing because you know
what i was kind of a bitch about it where i was like all they do is talk about
me and i'm like oh my god i'm a bitch about it and i'm like oh my god i'm a bitch about it and
then like i want to show like girls and then i watch it and i'm like so this is really fucking
powerful yeah it's so important it's so it's radical and it's radical today which is sad but
also good yeah and also hearing i mean talk about fame like hearing lena be like almost like a
download from the universe being like i want sex in the city but like for my life yeah yeah and then
and girls and girls and that's what brings us here today i know season two i can't believe this is the
baseball game episode i've met i'm i don't remember the plot of this episode but i remember the photo
of them sitting in the chairs and i'm like beautiful before watching her door today during
the game okay that photo is like etched in my brain you know what i mean really in the swing
of like artfulness in the series here like the vision is still like it's strange to start the
season with the ball game in my opinion or just like shocking yeah it doesn't seem like a pretty
premiere yeah yeah you're like that's where we get weird with it in episode seven exactly yeah
or even season three yeah it seems like a big shake-up like we've only had one full season
and now they're like sorry let's go to the baseball game have you guys been to a yankees game
no no i've been to some meds games me too yeah that's fun wait none of you've been to a yankees
game no no we have to go the house that babe ruth built i grew up in boston so i was like taught to
like the red salt the yankees should burn in hell at all costs but i obviously don't care now but
as a kid i hated them for some reason yeah but you're gay it's like yeah i know well you should
go with things that you're told gay no but it's like you grow up i wasn't aware of the culture
but i was told the culture so i was like i don't i don't know so i'm just right you're open to
whatever they're putting on you at that moment yeah i think it's so worth going to a yankees
game okay we should go to meds for the culture and experience i was gonna say we could recreate
yeah oh that's fun you already have a jacket
i know that's cool so you're carrie hello well i'm samantha sorry sorry i see it
what are you in that setting so that can't oh no are we allowed to do that or no no no we can do
it but my thought is that it's like you're gonna say charlotte and then that unfortunately leaves
you as miranda unfortunately whoa no but not unfortunately yeah but i mean i just i think
that we're switched yeah i could be miranda i'm okay with that today i can also see you as
miranda i'm miranda some days yeah really yeah on sundays or some days some days how about sundays
when some well yeah i i'm miranda sometimes i felt i've related to miranda recently when she
left the yeah the table when she got uh let's talk about something else when she was like guys
i got my new palm pilot like it's so beautiful i'm like okay that is my ipad journal and i mean
i'm like okay that is my ipad journal and i mean i'm like okay that is my ipad journal and i mean
we're we're immediately greeted with a new camera set up i mean that really brings out the the red
undertones of every single one of their skins i was kind of astonished and every red overtones
and she's really not beating the lesbian allegations in this episode like it's some
of the gayest in this episode later in the show i'm like come on like come on spiky like boy band
hair it's like i know she
right right right okay so i'll just go give you a really quick summary of this episode so for
people listening at home this is season two episode one take me outside the ball game
four weeks post big carrie treats manhattan like a minefield while miranda and charlotte drag her
back into the game literally at the yankee stadium where she meets joe the new yankee
stark and uses his new rebound prop to be seen with bag uh samantha suffers through james and
annie penis charlotte scares off paul by buying him underwear to fix his ball scratching and
miranda snaps at the group for being seventh graders with bank accounts before spotting her
ex eric holding hands with the woman who he left her for the episode ends with a fake out carrie
appears to call big in tears but she's calling miranda because the the final breakup rule is if
you don't get you can only get it through a breakout with your friends the final breakup rule
is if you don't get you can only get it through with your friends yes and kind of this whole
episode is centered around the rules post breakup i got no rules i got oh my god no literally
that um music video changed the world oh my god it actually it's like miami t right yeah
she's short do a leap do what wait is she tall or short i think she's
she's short
i bet that hurts doesn't it
we went to see her interview a very serious writer man in the new york public library and
we were like damn do a leap do a leap because she has a podcast about book in my head she's six five
me too in my head she's and she looms large she also isn't that short she looks like
she looks like
I was like, "Whoa, okay."
She does loom large.
She does loom large.
But I love that girl.
She would be an amazing fifth girl in this series.
Yeah, she'd be really good.
Does they, like, do CGI?
She's really bookish.
Get Dupa in there.
She's not like a, she's very, like, she has a strong inner world that she does, she can't
explore through her pop music because it's not commercial.
Yeah.
Interesting.
It's hard to watch that for a woman.
Sometimes I don't like it when she sings.
Oh.
Sometimes I do like it, but sometimes I don't like it when she sings.
But we expect our female pop stars to just sing, sing, sing.
You do like it when she sings.
Sometimes I don't.
Like, sometimes if you watch a live performance, I'm kind of like, um.
I know.
It's her tone is of a time.
Yeah.
So it actually feels regressive sometimes to listen to Dua Lipa because it's like, that
was 2019.
I agree.
Comes in the future.
I get a little bit bored with, like, her, like, evolved new happy music.
It's the same thing that happened with Lorde's superpower.
Yeah.
She's, like, in a great place mentally.
It seems.
But I'm not enjoying her art.
She doesn't care about her art.
Her art is her book club.
She has a book club?
That's her.
That's the whole.
That's how we saw her in a library because she was doing a live book club.
But.
Because she's always on a boat.
She needs a boat.
Exactly.
She wants it.
She can monetize her music.
She cannot monetize her book club yet.
But her angle is, of course, to be a Reese Witherspoon.
Oh.
Oh, interesting.
I do see that.
I do see that for Dua Lipa.
You know everything there is.
You are smart.
You are.
You have to.
Like, you know.
No, you'll be surprised.
You should work on knowing one thing.
We don't know things, really.
But that makes everyday fun.
Yeah.
You learn that Dua Lipa has a book club.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And you also learn about collagen and stuff.
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
I haven't taught us about collagen.
I could talk about it all day.
No, wait.
Can we talk about the statistic Charlotte drops at the beginning where she's, like,
all relationships you get over in the half-life?
Yeah.
This.
I.
I.
I'm still kind of working through a three-and-a-half-month situationship from three years ago.
So, I do need to defying the odds of science.
Yeah.
This is actually, like, just last week, I was like, oh, my God, something happened, and
I didn't check off Instagram, which is huge.
Well, don't you think that's a core issue is that social media makes her, like, you
can't get over it because they're present.
You need to meet them.
You have to.
Like, I feel pangs of devastation from a man I went on, like, one-and-a-half date with.
Everyone's our ex.
Yeah.
And, like, six years ago.
Six.
Well, it's because Maggie Berman's a sex.
Six.
And, like, I'm trying so hard to be like, yes, of course.
Six.
When you're 15.
But there are, I feel like there are just certain, there are certain breakups that, like, or,
like, heartbreaks.
Yeah.
That you can get over and certain ones you can't.
You can't.
I know.
Sometimes you'll never get over.
Yeah, well, reading Fame Sick, it's like, so she's not over Jack.
No.
Not even a little.
No.
No.
No.
No.
No.
Not even a little.
Not even a little.
And you know what?
Me either.
And Duleepa is short.
I love Fun the Band.
My favorite.
He's over that, though.
I'll tell you.
He's over that.
I stayed there.
Just collected.
Fun was good.
Fun was fine.
Fun was good.
Fun was fine.
Sorry.
Say it.
Like, my friends are in the bathroom getting higher than the Empire State.
Say that.
That's lyricism.
Sorry.
Duleepa could never.
Yeah.
Do it.
Try it.
It's something called fun.
It's not really.
Yeah.
She carries one month clean of big.
She's not handling it too well.
No.
Do they ever say how long that chunk of their.
It's like.
Six months.
Oh, they're dated for a year.
They say.
So she gets six months to get over.
Six months to get over.
Also, why did she.
Why did she break up with him this first time?
So the first time it's because he was being noncommittal.
Right.
Right.
And so she was like, let's just call that.
Which is kind of his tea for life.
He's like.
She's like, why won't you.
Why did you break up the first time?
His tea for life.
She's like, why won't you introduce me to your mom?
I'm not sure yet.
And she's like.
She needs a sign.
Okay.
I need a sign.
And he's like, well, I'm not going to give you a sign.
Cause you berate me to give you a sign.
And so she's like, I'm not going to the beach with you.
I'm kind of on his side.
Carrie is like.
I know.
So shockingly annoying.
Yeah, totally.
But then it's also like.
But then she's bliss half and perfect.
Yeah.
I like.
Yeah.
I kind of like.
She's so pretty in this episode.
And every episode.
I love Carrie's hair this season.
Oh my God.
It goes.
You get.
I love her hair.
It's a mixed bag with her hair.
It's a mixed bag.
It's a mixed bag.
It's a mixed bag.
Yeah.
It's a mixed bag.
It's a mixed bag.
It's a mixed bag.
It's a mixed bag.
It's a mixed bag.
Yeah.
It's a mixed bag.
that is beautiful I love that
I just got chills from that
same honestly I'm like down with Sephora
yeah and they all just looked
I mean they look so beautiful
all of them one time I spelled Sephora
with an F by the way
yeah he did
sometimes that happens you know
it's cool you see the sign and you say
I've got my own ideas
and who do you look like by the way
Amelia Earhart oh people
always say Jade from Victorious
oh that is exactly what I'm thinking
yeah wow striking
yeah you're a striking
are you an actor
oh god somebody hire me
um no
you were in Girl Car I was in a short film
called Girl Car okay
so you've like done some
I'd be open to it but I would be really bad at playing a character
that isn't just me well no one plays
characters that aren't just them except these four girls
I don't know
the way I watch them and I'm like they're incredible actors
I think that they are good I agree
I think they're just
accessing like realness
and they all won an Emmy except for Charlotte I think
oh god I feel
and that's why she has the podcast
I know and in my opinion she gives one of the greatest
she's one of the stronger performances
of the four of them I think
she's gonna win a Golden Globe for her podcast
next year I just know it
what's her podcast it's about sex in the city
it's called Are You a Charlotte
are you guys gonna have her on
we would die to have her on
I sent her a pitch talk
hey girl what's her name Kristen Davis
Kristen serious girl
Kristen
which can I just say
I watched a Christmas movie
where she played the mom as a child once
and I was like she is so pretty
she should get to like be in a fun TV show
it's like she wasn't
for some time
she had a huge career
it's so funny
you do have to be in a hit sitcom to be in a fun Christmas movie
yeah Lauren Graham
SJP has the same trajectory as well
oh my god
SJP
SJP is such a good actress
guys don't cry don't cry
I don't know why I'm like
also Diane Keaton
you know that is like
I know
that's gonna
yeah
well don't you think that
SJP
I don't necessarily know
she's a full Carrie
I don't think
I don't think
Miranda is
a full Miranda
yeah exactly
Cynthia is a
they're just accessing corners of their identity
but Charlotte is like
Kristen Davis is Charlotte
yeah
her blowout is just
every single time I'm like
she always looks
she looked amazing
in this episode
she's crazy
she did look amazing
in this episode
but shame on her for like
getting a dog and returning it
like don't do that Charlotte
yeah that's not okay
that's not okay
no
okay so we move to our second scene
where Samantha is
meeting up with the girls
they're all heading to a baseball game
and she's still with the guy from season one
this is her longest relationship yet
the biggest problem is
his tiny penis
yeah
it's three inches hard
so that's tough
that is
three inches hard
like that is hard
I've been there
and doesn't
doesn't she
no it is hard
yeah it is
doesn't she pull out
a vibrator
to try and like make it work
and he's like
what if we didn't
and she just cries
which is so
well he's like
no
I can't do that
that's like
shut up bro
like
if you have a small
like you gotta clock that shit
like
no literally
I know what you're working with
and do something else
to make up for it
like
and he's not
so like
she's in love with you
she's not in love
with anyone ever
like
he's hot
he's really hot
him like
dropping her off in the cab
and being like
take care of my princess
I'm like
if someone said that to me
I kind of like hated that
well yeah
I mean it's disgusting
it's vile
I'm saying
but like
if that ever happened to me
I would be like
this is crazy
the way they get hit on
I'm like
if that happened to me
in a bar
I'd be like
get the fuck away from me
you freak
but then I'm watching the show
and I'm like
I want it
because we're like
yeah
I dare you
I dare you
I dare you to approach me
wait
is three inches a deal breaker?
I dated a man
with a micro penis
and yeah
how did it go?
and is he
in your apartment now?
he was very very
nice
like
we had an amazing
time
together
and I was like
this is not gonna be
a deal breaker for me
like
lesbians make it work
you do other stuff
to
yeah
he was like
well
it was hard
I don't know
it was like
it was not
we didn't have great sexual
like
I was working up
I take a while
to like
kind of get comfortable
with someone
but
so I was like
we could probably make this work
but like
he was so boyfriend material
he
ghosted my ass
so
So hard.
Are you kidding?
Yeah, after I came to terms with being micro-penis.
Ghosted by a micro, that's hard.
Isn't that so funny?
Ghosted by a micro-penis is a short film.
Yeah, literally two years later, he texted me out of the blue.
Being like, sorry I ghosted you, and I just went LOL.
Like, what?
Okay, he probably started therapy or chat GPT therapy and was like, oh, God.
I need to make a mention.
Or maybe he's an AI.
He's an AI.
He didn't seem like he was.
Christianity?
No, he was so sweet.
Question mark.
He was a Jew for Jesus.
Oh, my God.
Okay, but they get to the Yankee Stadium.
Miranda's like randomly a huge major fan.
She's not beating the lessee allegation.
She knows the stats.
I'm like, where is she learning this?
I know, like, what?
I'm also loving Carrie being like, I love anywhere you can smoke and drink at 2 in the afternoon.
I'm like, she's doing the breakup.
Yeah, so well, all of them in sunglasses being like, oh, I'm like, this is what it's about.
And they're all sitting like, it's like, sit next to your friend, guys.
They're always in a different row.
It is, of course, stage picture vibes, right?
Yeah, it's beautiful.
They have those tickets that you get from the app when you only have like an hour before the game or you're like already in a third inning.
You're like, for 12 bucks, you can have rows like 5,200, like A through D, because they're so up there.
Wait, can we do this?
I want to do that.
Yeah, they have those.
I want to get a nosebleed.
It's the only way I want to carry a talkie, like only the end of the game.
Don't think your guys are going without us.
We're coming to the game.
Take a nap.
Who's going to be C&D?
You know, we can't do the whole row to ourselves.
Come on.
It is too fun.
Yeah, this and it's fun because then they set the framework for the baseball analogy throughout the whole episode from this basis.
And I think that's like the ultimate fun of watching Darren Star play is his amazing use of metaphor.
And ultimately, like his.
Like kind of campiness in writing where everything is kind of set up as a pun after the fact in even analogy of sex through baseball.
And ultimately, we all kind of naturalistic do that anyway.
Yeah, I struck out.
Yeah, three strikes, Mama.
Oh, my God.
I need to get back in the game.
It's like that's like sports or play and play is sex and sex is sports.
And, you know, everything is short.
By the way.
They're in the stands.
Miranda's making the hot dog a prop for her micropenis boyfriends.
Oh, right.
Carrie's like, how many beers can a girl buy?
And then they're all drunk.
Carrie's exploring alcoholism.
They're all drunk.
And the way she's like, and yes, I did use my press pass to go get him because she catches the ball.
Right.
We go to the next scene.
She goes down to meet the new Yankee.
Miranda is freaking out because she's a huge Yankee fan.
Watching Miranda fangirl.
I was like, this is so.
No, the fangirl in the Fendi jacket.
She does look with the glasses and that jacket.
I'm like, OK, that is tea.
Do you guys fangirl?
Is that a part of your culture?
Do we fangirl?
Like over anyone?
Like when you meet somebody you admire, you're like, so I think you're awesome.
We're like, we're like.
OK, just me.
We're like, well, we do, but we're like.
We like compliment everybody.
Yeah, we're just like, you look amazing.
I'm not going to be like shaky, like, oh, my God.
OK, I was being I'm always shaky.
Like Miranda.
OK, I think.
No, no, no.
It's like a thing.
I think with maturity, you become less of a super fan.
I think like having that like level of reserve for someone dissipates with age.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like in my earlier 20s, I would.
That's like when I felt my most starstruck.
And maybe it's like the incorporation of just like meeting more people of fame.
But also, I just think that you get like so you put people in such a high status.
Yeah.
Younger.
And when you kind of.
Go back to layers of the industry or fame, you realize it's a little bit more calculated
than that.
It doesn't mean as much.
I also wonder if like so like social media plays a part in it because it's like your
friends now kind of seem like you see your friends like on your screen.
It's like everyone, you know, is like on your screen.
So it's like I get starstruck any time I see somebody on a real.
Yeah.
I'm like, oh, my God.
That's my friend.
That guy I went to high school with.
Double tap.
Double tap share.
Oh, my God.
That is me liking my new stories.
Yes.
Yes.
It is so fun to like be sitting next to your friends, see them open up the app and just
double tap without watching like all their friends.
Oh, my God.
Yes, girl.
Whatever you need.
That's nice.
That is nice.
This scene has.
OK, so we're back at the scene with Miranda and all of them are waiting outside.
Meet a new Yankee.
The scene has so many beautiful puns in it.
Just the way they write is very musical because there's a moment where Samantha is freaking
out about the bold of the different baseball players.
Right.
And she goes, look at the bold on that one.
And Miranda's like, I think he's wearing a cup.
And she goes, I think it's cup.
It's runneth over.
She's chomping at the bit.
It's like crazy.
Like her just going just like sexually harassing.
I'm going to suck your cock, buddy.
Let me see your crotch.
It's like, Jesus Christ.
This is why I say they're amazing actors, because their ability to deliver lines like
this.
That are so ridiculous.
So believable.
No irony.
And it's just like, it works.
And I believe you.
It would be so hard to get that.
And be like, okay, I think he's wearing a cup.
Like, what?
It's so fun, though.
It literally feels like a musical.
Like, these lines have a musicality to them.
That's a good way to put it.
Yeah.
I always watch it.
It's like, it's just.
Which Sex and the City should be a musical.
The Sex and the City, the movie, should be into a musical, by the way.
Directed by Tina Fey.
I've got like a pretty good, like, don't, yeah, that's mine.
Don't take it.
Don't you dare write a musical.
We'll put this, send it to you.
You can use it in court.
Yeah.
Because it's so funny.
Because I've got some ideas.
That's actually an amazing idea for a musical.
Trust me.
No, I actually, yeah.
Trust me.
It needs.
End of act one is.
Are you familiar with the movie?
You'll get there, I'm sure.
Wait, the movie shouldn't be a musical.
Have us knock on after you watch the first movie.
Yeah.
Have you watched the movie?
I haven't watched any of the movies.
That's crazy.
Oh, it's blessed.
The first movie is literally.
She wears the same belt like nine times.
It's so good.
The first movie, like, makes you sob.
It's so good.
I'm shaking.
And crack up.
You should be scared.
Okay.
I'll watch it.
But you guys are the only ones that love the movie.
I love.
Everybody said talking shit.
I love them too.
Everybody was like, we pretend they didn't happen.
Okay.
Are you?
Who is that?
People need to grow up and get a grip.
Get them on the work.
The second movie is obviously a disaster from hell.
It's terrible.
But the first movie is blessed.
The first movie is, needs an Oscar.
The first thing I ever watched in Sex and the City was Sex and the City, the second movie.
And that's my entryway into different times.
What a terrible way to start.
That's when they go to Dubai?
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's so fun.
Well, it's like, do you want to start with the good news or the bad news?
Right.
Right.
That is true.
Let's get out of the way.
Sorry, we derailed the movie.
No.
No, no, please.
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Okay, so they are at the locker room and Carrie is running over to meet the new Yankee to ask him out to the Dolce & Gabbana fashion party.
He is the hit of the century.
She just caught a fly ball.
They both are catching a lot right here.
She's catching.
She's catching tail.
That's what I'm loving.
Okay.
You're on fire.
You are.
You are.
You are.
You are.
You are.
You are.
Please, come on.
You need a little fur, please.
Katrina, Katrina, Katrina.
I love that Miranda's like, how?
You can't just ask him out.
It's like, watch me, bitch.
She's like, Yankee.
Yankee.
I have three beers.
I'm the fiercest girl alive.
Yeah, she's like, I'm.
Would you ask out a guy?
Like, would you like?
Run down the hall screaming for him.
She runs like she has pigeon toe.
Yeah, true.
Did you notice that?
I'm like, her feet are overlapping in crazy ways.
Yeah, I forget.
Did they have like a moment of eye contact before or now?
Yeah, they did.
Yeah, because they met.
Yeah, I would do that.
If I felt like there was a spark.
He's so hot.
When she's like sad about Big, I'm like, but he's so much hotter than Big.
He is so hot.
I think everyone Carrie fucks through basically the entire series is hotter than Big.
Yeah.
It's so interesting.
I think she's attracted to the masculine.
Yeah.
Even though these are more traditionally beautiful men, she always likes the most masculine man in the room.
Yeah.
And that's how you know it's run by a gay guy.
Yeah.
I've always felt that.
There's something about Big's mouth that like really.
It's his mouth as well, his personality.
And face.
Yeah, he like doesn't, he doesn't do it for me.
No.
I was an Aiden girl.
He would.
Yeah, me too.
Yeah.
I would probably have sex.
I would probably have sex with Big anyways.
Oh, for sure.
I mean, yeah, he's not, I'm not an idiot.
Two seconds on it.
He's clearly not.
But if we're being honest.
I would do it.
He's clearly got something seriously amazing going on.
I would do it.
Of course, of course.
He's not that tall, so what is the Mr. Big of it all?
Right.
That's my question.
I want to figure that out.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Do we know his real life name?
Just how big?
Isn't he bad now or something?
His real, the actor's name?
No, like the character.
Are you talking about Mr. Big?
John.
Yeah, John.
John.
John Big.
Bigleton.
Six seasons for John.
Right.
For John to die on a soul cycle or whatever.
Oh, no.
Oh, my God.
That was crazy.
Six seasons of two movies, girl.
That was crazy.
And just like that.
Sorry, a Peloton, excuse me.
Big died.
Yeah, please.
So they go on the date or what happens next?
Okay, so next what happens, Carrie asks him out.
Then they, then we're, and then Carrie is going through the process of going on her
first date.
She, there's a flash to all the different people in the audience, which is the, you
know, this kind of a tool they were using in scene one, where they bring in different
people to give in antidotes of their own breakup rules, where there's a woman with an iPad
handing out concessions.
She goes, have you ever break up with someone?
Change your number, change your job, change your location.
I love that.
Don't mess with those bastards.
And then it's like 10 seconds.
They kind of don't even set it up well.
Change your job.
I was like, what was she before concessions?
She was a lawyer.
She only has one eye, so uh-oh.
She's lost her eye.
She's a pirate.
The way she has seven minutes on screen.
She's the only thing I can think about.
Like, she's a star.
It's also fun that they still, because like, I feel like as the series progresses, we lose
that aspect of the-
Yeah, the vision was still very much-
Of, yeah, of the like little one-off.
I know.
Like, interview type thing.
Well, you can tell the pacing.
That was such like a slow pacing moment.
It is very Harry Met Sally.
I know.
Oh, Nora.
Also, I just, I can't get this out of my head now.
Ever since you said Peloton, I keep saying Pelotonics in my head.
I love the Pelotonics.
Pelotonics, which is like an acapella group on Pelotonics.
You need to write that down.
You need to pitch that to Grand Collab.
That's so good.
That would be a good class.
The Pelotonics.
The Pelotonics.
You guys make zero dollars from it?
Yeah.
I'm not involved in this at all.
I just have a great matchup.
You guys should really get lunch.
I saw the Pentatonics for Christmas one year, and they were really good.
Like, they can sing.
They can sing, but I hate them.
But you know what?
We could use a new thing.
I agree.
Get them on bikes.
Get them on a bike.
Acapella.
In college, I matched with one of them on Tinder.
Which one?
The hot one?
The guy with the slouchy beanie?
The smaller one.
Oh.
The twang.
I think he's also in a slouchy beanie.
A twang who can, like, sing down.
Yeah.
Please.
God, they're good.
Oh, my God.
They are good.
God, they are good.
Oh, my God.
Anyways, sorry about that.
No, please.
I love watching her get ready, and she, like, puts on this expensive dress going to the
Dolce & Gabbana party, and she finds the last remnant's a big, and she goes, we took
this on a disposable camera.
I didn't realize our relationship was disposable as well.
It's haunting.
Stop.
Again, the musicality.
It, like, literally freaks me out.
When she, like, goes to the date, and she's like, yeah, I maxed out my credit card for
this dress, just in case he's here, and then the way they, like, show her seeing big, and
then it's just some random guy, that is how life is.
That is the way that, like, you hallucinate people.
There's Taylor Swift songs about that.
Like, I have, like, a lot of Taylor Swift songs about that.
Taylor Swift, like, ran out of coffee shops, being like, oh, my God, that's him.
And it's just some man named Mark.
And it was actually to sit back.
But then it's, like, with the runaway, what I was impressed with was, like, the commitment
of her runaway when she thought she saw him, and then, like, ran across the street at the
beginning.
It's like, I would run, and then I would follow.
Oh, which is in the fur.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's like, I do need to see for sure if it's him or not.
But she just left.
She left the scene completely.
It's like, you have to make sure you're hidden.
It's true.
And she, she always, it's, it's really, like, this most, like, beautiful analogy of the
breakup itself, where, in a way, like, you're always seeing your big, even if, or your big,
your breakup, even if they're not there.
Like, there's just remnants of them that last for so long.
And you're, you're always haunted.
And I think she didn't even think which way to go.
Like, New York is a whole different beast when you go through a breakup, because.
Exactly.
By the way, they're everywhere.
There's a lot of them with big noses, you know.
It's Ghost by Demi Lovato.
Are you guys listening to that, by the way?
No, I'm still at Skyscraper.
Oh, honey.
That's a great place to be, but listen to Ghost.
She just dropped, like, a new disc of the, of, uh, it's not that she, she has a new album.
Yeah, today.
You know, I saw a video of her with Joe.
She did.
Yes.
Being hot.
Yeah.
That's cool.
She, you have to get involved with her new album.
Yeah.
Okay, I'll wake that up.
Yeah, like, do believe.
Especially, like, it's perfect time, it's for summer.
I need to get back into her, because she was with me from the beginning.
I watched John Barney.
I can't wait for you.
I need to get back in.
Let us know how you like it.
I will.
The way you guys are parental figures to me, you're like, the Sex and the City movie is
going to change everything.
The Demi album.
Honey, we got two things you need, all right?
Don't worry, everything's going to be okay.
We're like, watch the Sex, by the way, it's also, like, so mainstream.
I'm like, Amelia would parentify a plant.
Amelia would parentify a plant.
She doesn't need much, honestly.
Someone just pointed her in the right direction.
You are my mommy.
She will not parentify her parents, though.
No.
It's the beautiful truth.
You can't.
You can't.
That's mean to them.
No, you can't.
oh my god so they're at the party and then carrie reveals her second breakup rule which is always
lie i love this rule lie lie lie always lie this is a fucking genius always lie yeah what is she
lying about um like why are you looking for big yeah yeah it's actually like kind of i found this
to be so confusing i've watched this scene three times but apparently so charlotte goes did you see
big and she goes i thought i saw him i didn't see him and she basically is telling her truth
and then it's actually income she's describing as a lie after the fact which i thought was like
a messy way to kind of do the scene it didn't feel because like did she lie like she didn't
really even lie so she lied because charlotte was like oh like do you think you might run into big
and she's like i hadn't even thought about that oh and then she was like i maxed out my credit
card getting ready for this because what if he's here so she's lying about thinking like charlotte
like is big there which is beautiful um and then she you know what she gets a first base with a
yankee player yeah i think you're kind of cute that is cool but i don't know that is cool that
is cool like that is cool that is cool when they kissed because they were like you're kind of cute
you're kind of cute that was cool but i was like girl you you ain't ready and you know it no but
sometimes you have to jump before you're ready yeah right jump then fall is that what it is
jump then fall jump it's kind of like fall jump is this what song is this it's called jump and fall
by whom taylor swift oh i think it's from her fearless era and it's a bonus it's before totally
before my time well i like love this scene because you guys know kelly ben simone when
she's introduced in season three of course she's running through the street yes completely in the
street because she runs right past carrie and carrie brings her date into the middle of traffic
tickets where we go yeah you're in a three-lane highway girl she can close like i love how she's
like she is so fabulous she's so good on date she's like wait i hope we get hit by
semi. It's cool how she wears
heels the way she does. I know.
No one can wear heels that elegantly.
No one does it anymore. No, no one does it.
In open-toe Manhattan. No one does it.
Should we get into little stilettos all the time?
If I was a little bit shorter, I would wear heels
all the time. Wait, show the girls what you're wearing today. You're Jordan
Nike. Trunners.
What's trunners? Training and runners.
Oh, trunners. And they're a clog.
Did you invent that word or that
bible? So you hate them.
I love them.
They just have their truth, which I love.
Yeah, they're kind of interesting. I love them.
They just have their truth. I love them.
Okay. It seems
you may have just been clogged. Let me show you your shoes,
Evan. They're uncomfortable.
They're really beautiful
because they're flat on the bottom and they slide.
And if you walk on a rock, it will
alert everyone in kind of the
glass house.
White houses
but glass. Great.
Vanessa Carlton came on stage at Coachella, by the way.
Were you guys there? Yeah.
We travel so well together.
We really do. We work 60 girls.
Thousands. Oh, that's mainly our thing.
Okay. You do well? Yeah.
Well, it's like interesting. Sometimes it's really
good, but ultimately you find your times.
There's always a low and a high.
That vest is bringing out a cockage in you.
We usually have the best time.
Hey, I miss you without the vest.
You licked my shoes without the vest, Evan.
We usually have the best time
and then on day three, I cry in the street.
Oh, sure. Well, yeah.
That's fine.
We do well because we both
we're like introverted extroverts.
We need downtime.
We're like, bye. We're like, okay, bye-bye.
Let's take our nap and then go
and get blackout at dinner.
Right.
You're like, let's be responsible.
Nap first, then blackout. Do you guys like going to dinner or what?
Oh, yeah. Doesn't it rock?
We have the best time in Providence, Rhode Island
going to restaurants every night
and being like, we're getting apps, entrees,
dessert. Yeah, no limits.
No limits. No limits.
I grew up in a family that it was just the entrees
and the water. So anytime I get an app,
I'm still like. Yeah, my mom
would always just like, we're not getting this app.
Which is the worst part of a meal.
The entrees, buying for the least. I agree. Boring.
No, I would rather get like five apps.
Literally, please. Tuna, tar, tar.
Tuna, tar, tar.
We had tuna every single day
for ten days. Oh, good. Yeah, of course.
How are your mercury levels?
Probably very high. Wait, you guys are going to be
on season three of The Pit?
You're not lighting
on tuna or mercury? You guys do The Pit after Sex
in the City. Yeah, of course. We did a Pit episode
and people are hating it.
Oh, shit. Well, one person said, I love
this, do more. And then everybody else was like,
I thought you were going to talk about Sex in the
City this weekend. I actually watched the episode
so I prepared, so fuck you.
It is an extreme
shift. I know, but
we're like, it's under the HBO umbrella.
Yeah, it is. And there's girls in it.
Yeah, that's what we said. There's female story center.
And Dr. Robbie's hot as hell, dude.
No, he is. I love him.
Even though he's annoying this season. Whatever, whatever.
He needs to get better help. Seriously.
Sorry. No, no. That brings us
perfectly into our ad break. Oh, perfect.
I'm kidding.
Oh, we've got the brunch where Miranda
freaks out because they're all talking about boys.
And she's like, can we talk about my palm pad?
It is so, I will say it's like
really annoying when people are like, can we talk about something else?
And it's like, sure.
Bring it on. What would you like
to talk about that? I know they all sit there for three
seconds. Because they were
receptive. They were like, okay. No, it's true.
She could have. And she's like,
I'm going to get the check.
It feels good when she runs into
her ex from two years ago and freaks out
and then like emotionally remembers
what Carrie's going through. Yeah, what it's like. Because you do forget.
Yeah. It's like, I relate to
Miranda in that. Because it's like, you forget
what it's like. I'm not sure running into
your ex looking like the gayest
woman in
the United States of America. No, just me.
It's happened to me. It's happened to me a couple times.
That is crazy.
She ran because she's like, oh, he's going to
think I'm a lesbian now. Right. It's like, well,
yeah. Yeah, did he not when he
began dating? Right.
Well, she's wearing, I love that scene because she's walking around
and says, I'm the only true woman, an adult
in New York City. And then she's dressed in. Like a
kindergartner.
She looks like a little boy
in a baseball game.
Everyone's like, you're in a gay
man bar.
He's so beautiful. Oh, right. We haven't talked
about Charlotte's whole situation.
Which is that she's dating a guy that's
perfect. He went to Brown, but he
keeps touching his balls. I would
just be like, so what's up with your balls, dude?
I would be like, you are scratching those balls, dude.
I know, but can you imagine Charlotte being like, what's up
with your balls, dude?
I once went on a date with someone who was
like, we drove,
it was when I lived in LA, we drove to the Getty, which
is at like 4pm. It took
100 hours. The way I'm like, Getty
images database, it's where they store all the
photos. And we're like, in
the car, and I can't help but notice he's like,
kind of just like, keeps like
scratching his crotch. And I'm like, there's
something like going on. And then he got so
flustered once we like, finally got there.
And like, was like, itching, and
like, clearly had something. I don't know what was
going on, but he was literally like, just go
up there and I'll meet you up there.
Oh my god. He was
fighting a battle. I was like,
okay. He had something going on.
I'll see you up there.
Sometimes you do have to, sometimes
you have to. Just like, dismiss
someone and scratch your penis.
Yes. Recently I chopped serrano
peppers and then scratched. Oh my
god. And huge,
huge, huge
mistake. You did the cinnamon challenge
but in a different way. It was like,
so shocking and crazy and
like, I did some wild things over the sink afterwards.
Did you just put milk on yourself? No, I didn't
have milk, but I did like, I was
like, over the sink with like, cold
water. It was like, shocking.
Is that painful? Yes.
A serrano pepper on your cock and balls?
Yeah.
It's very essential.
Damn. And it's like, I do that accidentally
every day and I'm fine. You're being
sensitive. Damn. I have a high spice tolerance.
I hate spicy food. My dick loves it.
It's the only way you can get horrid at this point, honestly.
It's good to feel something.
It is like, Charlotte should be more direct, but instead
she buys underwear and then he freaks out because he's like,
I'm not ready for gifts. You're crazy. And she's like,
well. He also freaks out.
Yeah. The men, the men have no
like, what a freak ass.
Imagine getting a gift and being like, you're
fucking psycho. This is crazy.
You're buying me underwear?
It is kind of crazy to buy him underwear. Yeah, but you could just be like,
that's pretty weird. Like, whatever. Let's fuck.
But it's from Barney's. Right.
I bet it was nice. Barney's, please. Come on.
At the end of the day, Charlotte should have practiced
radical truth telling.
Yeah. That's true. She should have pushed herself.
That's hard for her, though. Yeah. It's hard for all
those girls, except for Samantha. Yeah.
I will say that relationship only being three weeks.
If that happened to me, I would, like, I'd be in a psychosis
for two years, but she got over it in a
week and a half. What? The Charlotte
whole thing? The whole thing. Yeah. We do
say, Samantha would say it, but
she still hasn't confronted her boyfriend
that she's in love with about his tiny dick.
That's true. That's true.
That I find shocking. Yeah.
I mean, especially for her. She is the ultimate
size queen. She could have, like, invented a term
and is also copyrighted it. And for
her to not implement her own
reality and rules, and
for her to put them to the wayside in order to
have an emotional connection, it's kind of
it is beautiful, but ultimately
it's interesting to see her go against
her character in season two because it's clear
that they want to set up her
own growth arc. Yeah.
But then they barely acknowledge
her. Like, Samantha does not have
she, like, staggers in growth
past this point. Yeah.
Where they only let these girls, like, grow very
incrementally. And it's interesting
to start the season two at a high, and
then ultimately she just, like, falls into her ways
for, like, the next three seasons until
she meets the absolute
Smith. It's kind of, like,
lax when it's, like, by the end of the season
Debra and Ava have really
figured it out. And then it's, like,
nope, they're still the same old
girls. Yeah.
By the movie, I feel. Sorry.
No, it's true.
But she does. She finally does.
Well, you have a manuscript.
Oh, I do. It's really good.
I just want to acknowledge this episode came out June 6,
1999, which is my first birthday.
June 6?
Is that Gemini?
It's Gemini.
It's Gemini.
It's Gemini.
It's really good.
Because every episode came out on my birthday.
So the show premiered on my birthday
every year. Oh, that is cool.
Wait, that is so aligned.
What's your sign? I'm an Aries.
What are you guys? I'm Sag.
I'm Aqua. That means we're, like,
Sag fire.
I like that about you.
Thank you. Yeah. And then Aquarius,
my sister that I like and I'm scared of,
she's that, too. My sister
is Aries, and she's, like, awesome and also
a little crazy. Do you find that you're crazy?
That is a part of my story.
What's your sister's name? Marissa? Marissa. She's a lesbian.
Oh!
She's beautiful.
Yes! Yay!
Oh, my God. It's kind of a chicken or egg.
Like, if a girl's name is Melissa, is she
born a lesbian or is she growing? Well, careful,
because my name is Melissa. Oh, yeah.
My sister's Marissa.
And how long have you been dodging allegations?
A long time. Well, actually, since. I'm the one growing them down.
Just when I stopped wearing my extensions and straightening
my hair. Oh, wait.
Wait, you have that chapter? Oh, yes.
That's cool. I want to return to it every single
day. Right. She really does. It's beautiful.
Well, I started getting blowouts in the last six months, and
it's night and day the way people treat me. I will say
your hair looks unbelievable.
Thank you. Like, wow.
It is crazy, the difference.
Just the difference of the way that
straight men treat you, when your hair is straight
and curly or straight and long.
It's, yeah.
It's this curly? Well, I'm not good at curls
like that, so no. It's, like, wavy,
frizzy. Like, I don't know how to
get them tight. You just don't touch them.
So, I have a thing where I really have to touch them.
You have a new thing where you love to touch them. Yeah, this is
the least. it's been touched
but like normally
like I'll like
do I'm calling it
a heatless blowout
where I just
will take oil
and for days
just pull my hair
and then in like
four days
it'll be kind of straight
okay love
but this is fresh
out of the shower
I don't touch it
you need to do
your routine
heatless blowout
heatless blowout
takes about
six to eight days
six to eight days
and about two bottles
of oil
easy
it's easy
I can plan my schedule
around that
of course
or is there anything
you have to do
to close out the app
she sees big right
so yeah
so Carrie is
finding her own
like romantic twist
with the new Yankee
she's at a bar
which I'm finding
really hard to believe
it's a bar
because it's like
half punk
half men in suits
yeah it's not
it's not where she would
ever be
or with a new Yankee
but her hair looks
really cute
she has that one
little braid
it's looking so cute
like she's being sweet
she's being sweet
but some of her outfits
are giving Burning Man
yeah
and let's burn that man
please
I do not want to see
them anymore
the little braid
I want to do that
but my forehead's
just crazy
I think you could
oh please
I think you could do it
and I'm actually
really sick of you right now
because I'm looking at you
and I'm like
I'm actually really sick
of you right now
with your big blowout
yeah yeah yeah
me knowing that you
would look really good
with the braid
your blowout with the heat
my heated blowout
your heated blowout
you know we're
anti-heat in this house
you know I'm working
through giving up
heated blowouts
we're about to have
a heated blowout
it is lucky
that she does
look awesome
when she sees him
and like him
coming up to her
and being like
I saw you in the paper
like that
you've never
I would've been like
yes
he's like oh no
I know who you are
like imagine
you're out with Joe Jonas
no it's best case scenario
and the way he does this
and she actually
forgets how to breathe
yeah that is so real
when they go slow
I'm like oh my god
I know but that's
like that does happen
no it literally
with people who I
don't have history with
just like someone
who I've thought about
a lot touches me
I'm like
yeah they did
they did a really good job
I know
great job guys
so much is done
in an editing
yeah
they really
understood his truth
that was me by the way
that was one of my first jobs
I was editing for
Sex and the City
he edited this episode
yeah
congratulations
thanks
you know
you love what you do
I helped a little
wait okay
so she sees Big
she freaks out
she kisses the guy
in the street
and cries
and then cries
in his mouth
in his mouth
and she's like
please go
but she makes it sound
like she's about to throw up
when they kiss
yeah
which I found jarring
which yeah
if I were him
I would be absolutely terrified
stop that
he's like so do you wanna
okay
alright
and then the fake out
with the phone call
I knew it was gonna be a girl
I didn't
oh
you thought it was gonna be big
yeah I did
she like freaks out
after the kiss
and then she runs
to the phone booth
and sends a call
she goes can we meet at our place
and then she gets to the diner
like Miranda
like they are so close
they're amazing
no like they fought
in this episode
but then it's like
they are there
they are the closest
sometimes like the more I watch it
the more I'm like
is Charlotte friends
with these girls
barely
she is rich
she is like not in the group
it really is
in the way that Carrie
I'm with the camera
the way that Carrie
Carrie Miranda
are the best friends
yeah
but Carrie and Samantha
also have a
very special
yeah
and then Carrie and Charlotte
are kind of like random tea
well there was
yeah Carrie and Charlotte
are kind of like
like not that close
yeah
well
you have like relationships
for different reasons
and ultimately
like the whole
premise of even like dating
like Carrie is dating
the new Yankee
because it's a validation
of dating a hot
new young thing
but not because
she's necessarily
romantically attracted to him
and sometimes
it feels
like her subjugation
like in the friend group itself
is
or even like
her relationship with like
Charlotte
she's like this hot
young thing in her way
and I find that
sometimes like the
propification of a friend
I don't think the core
three
fours
as much like that
but you do see that
interchangeably
and we have that
in our own lives
so like there's some friends
I'm just friends with
because they're hot
is it me?
holy shit
I actually don't
relate to that
no and it's not good
I wish my friends
were a little less hot
honestly
you have friends
that you're like
I don't like you
but you're hot
and definitely like
earlier parts of my life
absolutely
okay cool
but it's like
because of the status
of the friendship
but I don't
I'm like
I've let that go
of course
yes yes yes
girl I have a podcast
for a reason
well it's a whole
acknowledgement
it's like if you
acknowledge
the social climbing ladder
people get upset
because they realize
there's a ladder to climb
and that's like a big part
of even sex in the city
in general
it's like
you can deem
part of the reason
that Carrie even wants
to be with Big
is because he's
of higher status
and it's Carrie
just tracing him
for the validation
of being with someone
who's so perfect
and professional
and has like
it's amazing at finance
which is the thing
she struggles with most
is being able to act
chill in a relationship
which she struggles with most
like there's so many things
that Big validates
for Carrie
that it's hard to always
like decipher
between the lines
of like
does Big just provide status
because he's still cool
while also having
this very professional job
or is it the aspect
of like actual love
quotes on quotes
whatever that can mean
I think it changed
like I feel like it starts
you know
the latter
the actual love comes
yeah
because then it's like
she's doing the opposite
because then it's like
through it all
like still chasing Big
is kind of demoting her
because of how much
everyone around her
has seen her go through
with this man
so that is
that's interesting
I know
it's like yeah
she's chasing status
and then like
lowering status
I feel by ultimately
ending up with him
to pursue the bachelor
because I mean
even her like chasing
of the Yankee
is a similar inclination
of her always chasing
the wanted bachelor
right like Miranda
is like you're supposed
to rebound with a fugly guy
what are we doing
right
don't waste your rebound
on this guy
he's a cat
that's true
you should marry him
exactly
oh girl
oh girl
because like season one
episode one
Big is in
they're all in the club
and Big
Carrie sees Big
and goes
he's way too high status
for me
I can't approach him
what would a guy like that
want with a girl with me
because he's surrounded
by women
he's coming
through in a limo
he's disgusting
gross
but again
what's up
but guys
I can't stress this enough
I would not kick that man
out of bed
just to wrap up
the episode
they like sit down
at their spa
and Miranda's like
I ran into my ex Eric
and I'm sorry
for being a bitch
and then Carrie's like
thank you
I'm broken
but the way
and we introduce rule three
rule three is
you need your friends
you need your friends
yeah the most important
part of a breakup
is your friends
after you lie to them
after you lie
rule number two
always lie to your friends
lie lie lie
half life science
rule two lie
rule three
be a friend
be a friend
I mean like
these rules
I got new rules
I got them
that really is a great poll
do a
that is
really is
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oh my god
and we have a question
for y'all
serious
girls
what girl are you
oh girl
you will you go
cause I'm like
I'm like
I am
can I be a combo
whatever feels good for you
is that allowed
there's no rules
there's no rules
I am like 75
Jessa
25
Hannah
okay
are we talking girls
you can do
whatever feels good
you said what girl are you
but you can do sex in the city too
oh okay well I'm
okay sorry
my god
no problem
no no no
you said girl
like you can imagine
yeah of course
I am
I do
I do feel
very strongly related
to Carrie
yeah
I can see that
it's a curl pattern
it's a curl pattern
and the annoying behavior
and the kind of
not learning your lesson
thinking everything about you
that kind of thing
all the bad parts of Carrie
I really identify with
yeah
I think
I do think
think i'm a hybrid of of samantha and miranda why actually miranda miranda oh that's beautiful
oh my god miranda miranda anyways um samantha was like samantha so i used to want to be like
in my early 20s and then in my later 20s actually became like her like she worked
she was like she's like she's work forward she's like girl forward and she's fuck forward
and that was like kind of my tea for a while
while she's a good girl and she never has a boyfriend which i don't ever have a fucking
boyfriend but which is of course no problem and then miranda is like you know is a bit like touch
beyond repair and you know is a bit odd and i think i i am speckled but also like smart like
it's like she's like yeah like you would be the one at the diner that would be like
like i feel like you'd be like okay like you got you can't rebound with this guy but then also be
like true it's true when you would call true can y'all shut up it's really like that i'm like can
you stop talking about sex in the city yeah and i can be annoyingly like miranda can be like she
can suck the fun sometimes when she's like well like she's like rules you know like i like i love
miranda so much more in this reason what's that you love fun i do love fun but i like fun with
in its truth within it's like i love i love yeah i love some nights by fun of course
some nights
you
you guys want to ask him with me oh yeah girl what girl are you no i felt miranda in this and
in the same subsequent way where it's like sometimes when people are just talking about
something for so long i will be like we have to change the subject it's just just people will
drag on to something for way too long it's annoying it's so annoying especially for years
at the diner we can't it feels like groundhog day she's like we gotta flip it up a little bit
i know but then it's also at the end of the day it's about me and it has rarely anything to do
with them and i kind of have to find a truth of my own through a hard circumstance and situation
yeah so i definitely will see myself as a miranda this episode and i feel like sometimes i like i
love numbers in a way miranda does you should be a therapist by the way no and a scientist
yeah it is okay i guess i'm realizing too it is like this episode specific like oh is that what
we're doing well no no no we just have to be general that's what we do we just have to be
oh that's what we do we did like hybrids like is that annoying yeah no everybody always does
hybrid but i want to know what hbo girl you are too like hannah if she if she tells you you have
to tell i'm just a hannah i'm like shisharni yeah i am like i am like i do have marnie t but i get
a little shisharni i'm not really hannah no not well no not really no and it's not relationship
is it that it's like i'm not really hannah i'm not really hannah i'm not really hannah i'm not
like is it circumstantial to race relationship where you feel no i'm not i've never had a
boyfriend never been in a relationship no but like even this even this friendship this is a
relationship it is a relationship exactly yeah but do you like do you feel that you all like your
personality alters per relationship like are you sometimes like are you the marnie and you're the
hannah or like like oh i see like from person to person does my well i feel like we're the
yeah i'm pretty like solid in my i'm a little bit more of a
so like yeah so you're saying like am i like hannah with someone marnie with someone yeah
i know i'm pretty like i'm kind of marnie t which sucks but no yeah you are you are
you're constant i would say i am more of like a someone who changes based on the person not really
a little bit i feel like i'm always made to be marnie but then in certain dynamics i get to be
hannah yeah i mean you would book marnie obviously i mean yeah you would look you get to be hannah
yeah like i can just be messy instead of like okay in charge of everything i see i'm being
uptight when she's like i'm uptight because you make me uptight that's how i feel i do think
you're mostly shosh though yeah like shosh i love a show it's like 90 of population
yeah that's we've done we're literally a census for this kind of question there's a lot of shows
in the world what girl are you in general i mean i've
feel like a shoshana i ultimately i feel like a hannah as well like shoshanas are like the the
unblocked artists of the world ultimately i kind of sometimes feel like even like a
lena donna yeah like alina i'm not a hannah i'm alina
but that's only my good days just to wrap this up wait but we didn't ask you yeah girl what girl am
i i'm also miranda only because i never have a girl i'm also miranda i'm also miranda i'm also
miranda i'm also miranda i'm also miranda i have boy t to share so i'm like guys can we talk about
this is so shocking to me my ipad planner i thought you were engaged same so my heart like
if i'm engaged i thought you did divorce no you gave our young bride engaged energy literally i
think i i think i never got over my mother's divorce and i carry that with me so that's why
i act like a divorcee can i ask how two me too yeah oh how old i am now the divorce i'm two i am
two i said that they got divorced when i was two but i'm 28 now so it's been 26 years 27 oh my god
what are you guys i'm six six i'm 31 i'm 35 i am that's beautiful yeah everybody i know who's 31
figured something out no i'd rather be my 30s i am happy 31 is younger than 29 by the way it is
i'm like so sick of this i'm so i think i will like find my stride in my 30s you will you also
you have a problem with that you have a problem with that you have a problem with that you have
pretty good stride right now.
I was going to say,
from where I'm standing,
you know everything.
We're in your office.
Yeah.
You know everything about college.
We don't know anything.
You know everything about
Dua Lipa's book club.
Seriously.
That's like the news
of only two things.
Right.
Everything.
He knows everything.
Dua Lipa's book club.
And you had really informed
takes on this episode
and we just screamed and sang.
Here's the thing.
I've been here for three years.
If you were here for three years,
you'd be in a completely
different space.
I guess.
You'd be shocked.
All I brought to the table
was Pelotonic.
I've been at the restaurant
for three years.
And the finale of that one
is good.
Let's close out
with our final segment.
Let's get carried away.
Well, don't be a bitch.
I'm not being a bitch.
I'm just being myself.
So in this segment,
we will do a hot take.
Maybe we talked about
an episode already,
but you might have
a culture in general
or about the specific episode
that Millie and I will lead
and you guys,
you feel it feels good to you.
Okay.
You can always do what you feel.
You can even not do anything.
Okay.
But ultimately,
I'm getting carried away
with this week
the concept of
people flirting
without the intention of sex.
People are truly like,
and it's sometimes
I understand like a
a mother of two.
Sometimes she has to flirt
to survive.
Like gay guys sometimes flirt
as almost like a sport
and activity
because they are
so many people are like
seeking constant validation.
It's not necessarily
the flirt
and
pursuit
of
romance or sex,
but in the pursuit
of self-validation.
And
ultimately,
I understand like some people
the act itself.
It does this really
so much.
It's so much dopamine
and it's fun.
But ultimately,
I think about the person
on the other side of that
because they're
they can be confused
by mixed messaging.
Do you know how hard
it is to pick up
any kind of messaging
in this world?
Hard, difficult.
This is the bad.
I so disagree.
No, and you're allowed
to take your space for that.
You get carried away
in the opposite direction.
I'm carried away
in that this is my carried away.
I think that the only
like it is really sad
that you're expected
to like stop flirting
once you're in a relationship
or if you don't want
to have sex with someone.
Like I think flirting
is like the most
important thing
and the most important
type of communication
in style of communication
there is.
Like I think it is
what makes the world go round.
It is how I flirt
with every single person.
It's true.
Doesn't matter what gender,
what age,
if I want to fuck them,
if I don't want to fuck them,
if I hate them,
if I love them.
Like the baseline
of communication for me
is flirt.
And I didn't never thought
I was a flirt
until Melissa started pointing it out.
This is Marty to everyone.
I'm wearing a face
like he's walking
down the street.
Hey, handsome.
Hey, handsome.
Hey, handsome.
He doesn't like saying
hey, handsome to someone.
No, it's all her big.
You're polite.
Hey, handsome.
Exactly.
And he has like a little
like hair flip.
Hey, handsome.
No, flirtation is,
I understand it's fun
and it's game,
but some people
and it's maybe
Who hurt you?
Thousands.
No.
Thousands.
And by the way,
I'm someone who's been hurt.
No, of course.
Ultimately,
it's like if I have a crush
on someone
and they're flirting with me,
it's hell on earth.
You just have to say,
are you flirting?
No, I have to.
You have to be upfront.
Are we dating?
Are we fucking?
Are we best friends?
Are we something?
Childish Gambino?
Is that a Dupa Leap song?
Anyone?
That's Dupa Leap.
That's a rap song
by Donald Glover,
Childish Gambino.
That was really good.
Thank you.
Yeah, sure.
Wait, what are you
getting carried away with?
You guys are giving
amazing points on flirting.
I'm getting carried away
with the fact that
there is absolutely
no way to enjoy
a baseball game
except getting blackout drunk.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's rule number one.
That's why they have
like the alcohol
sold in a bowl
in a slushy format
for $30.
Like,
I would not.
My friend is having
her birthday party
at a Mets game
and it's like,
I'm only going
knowing I'm getting
blackout that night.
Like, if I was going
to go sober to the ball game,
I might as well stay home.
No.
You can watch it on TV
or just like,
don't watch it at all.
The only fun thing
about a baseball game
is open air
while blue alcohol.
Open air
while blue alcohol.
Put that in your
Instagram bio.
That's gorgeous.
And that's on that.
Wait, but you're,
I have to disagree
with that.
Okay.
Okay.
Well, because
inherently baseball
is like slightly boring.
They know that.
But it's considered
America's pastime
because it's a mechanism
to pass time.
So it's about
your intention.
Knowing everything.
Like, Jesus Christ.
No, it's like,
why popularity baseball?
It's like the first
major sport in America.
Yes.
But because
if it's pastime nature,
like people needed
to figure out
something to pass time with
and the amalgamation
of like baseball
becoming popular
is because it was so easy.
I mean,
through,
like this indication
of radio
for people to like,
really like get
into the sport itself
as somebody.
on electronics.
The baseball doesn't do it for me.
As a screen, as an iPad, baby.
As an iPad, baby.
Also, we've like figured out
a lot of new ways to pass time.
Like my new pass time is. The last Mets game,
I played Candy Crush during it.
Like if I'm gonna. It's out, it's out.
Yeah, I think. But wait, bring us home.
What are you getting carried away with?
I'm getting carried away with
like breaking my own rules
at the prospect of hanging out
or kissing a boy.
Like, you know, you have like,
I'm gonna be good this week.
I'm gonna do X, Y, Z.
And it's like all those rules
go out the window
if like a boy is like,
do you want to hang out?
Do you know what I mean?
It's like, what is wrong with. I'm like, oh no, I'm free.
I have like no self-control.
I'm like, oh, a handsome man
wants to like maybe kiss.
I'm like, yeah, that's fine.
I'll have 600 cocktails with you.
It's opening night of your show.
I'm free.
Yeah, no, it's not a big thing.
To like stop doing that.
Yeah.
That's probably maybe like
while you're single.
And then me too.
Oh my. Evan.
Don't yell at my fucking friends.
Seriously.
And let me tell you,
it doesn't happen that often.
That's not why you're single.
Boys, don't really be texting.
No, but it's my truth though.
It's hard.
Because it's like always available.
You like the availability of it.
I don't think that that's his. I don't think that's true for you.
Not that I'm always available,
but I'm just like,
I will be like,
oh, I'm not going to behave X, Y, Z.
Like, you know,
because I want to. You make promises to yourself.
Yeah, and I break my promises
because of like. Because of like,
I want to kiss.
I want to kiss.
I don't even want to fuck.
I just want to kiss.
I obviously want to fuck,
but like kissing rocks.
Making out is awesome and cool.
The other side of that though
is like you do have to like. Like when you. When people that you want to kiss show up,
like you do have to make time.
It's like you have to meet the moment.
Right.
So like there are going to be
plenty of weeks in your life
where there's no one texting you.
And those are good weeks.
And I know those weeks deeply well.
Me too.
I live there.
Also, Billie Eilish wrote Ocean Eyes about you.
Oh my God.
Oh my God.
You are so. I am absolutely taken by you.
You are such a flirt.
I know.
I was going to say,
what the hell?
You used to say that to her.
This is fucking bullshit.
I mean, come on.
It's crazy.
Yeah.
Your eyes are Ocean Eyes.
Thanks.
But you all have blue eyes
and I'm the brunette.
Yeah, and I think. He's got those Kelly Clarkson hazel eyes.
And Dua Lipa is short.
Y'all, thanks so much for being on the pod.
Wait, wait, wait.
I did it.
Mine was just. Wait, wait, wait.
It was just an antithesis to yours.
Oh, okay.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, collab.
Thank you guys so much.
Collab.
Okay, collab.
Collab partnership with Evan
for that take.
Oh, where can the people find you?
Basically at my house.
Mexico, Pile of Carmen.
You can find me at It's Marty Miller.
It sounds like just tell them
where to be, they'll show up.
Yeah, exactly.
We'll come.
We'll be at dinner.
Yeah, we love Cancun.
You can find me
at Missy.Macintosh.
No way.
No way.
No way.
No way.
I'm the Macintosh.
It's a loud and invisible A.
Imagine McDonald's.
Grow up.
Seriously.
Thank you.
That's amazing.
Yeah, find us.
Kiss us.
I'll break my rules for you.
Find us, kiss us.
Make Marty break a rule.
Lie, lie, lie.
It's easy.
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If you want to go follow them there,
we will add their handles below.
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Podcast Summary
Key Points:
The season two premiere of *Girls Rewatch* centers on a baseball-themed episode that uses metaphor to explore relationships, breakups, and emotional growth.
Characters like Carrie, Miranda, and Charlotte navigate complex breakups and new relationships, with themes of honesty, emotional vulnerability, and social media’s impact on healing.
The episode highlights how personal habits, like hair routines or fashion choices, reflect inner emotions and self-image.
A key narrative thread involves the "final breakup rule" — that relationships must end through a shared group experience, emphasizing friendship and collective healing.
The show critiques societal expectations around dating, masculinity, and attraction, especially through exaggerated scenarios like small penises or inappropriate gifts.
Characters grow in different ways, with Charlotte struggling to confront her boyfriend’s behavior, while Samantha avoids addressing her own insecurities.
The episode blends humor and heart, using absurdity to critique real emotional dynamics, such as loneliness, past trauma, and the difficulty of moving on.
Brand promotions (like Honeylove, Shopify, and BJ’s) are woven into the narrative, blending lifestyle content with the characters’ personal journeys.
Summary:
The episode of *Girls Rewatch* explores the emotional complexities of relationships, breakups, and self-discovery through a humorous yet heartfelt baseball-themed storyline. Characters like Carrie, Miranda, and Charlotte navigate their personal lives, confronting issues such as past heartbreaks, superficial dating choices, and the difficulty of emotional honesty. The narrative emphasizes how friendships shape personal growth, with Carrie's journey highlighting the role of validation in new relationships, even when romantic attraction is absent.
The episode uses absurd, exaggerated moments—like Charlotte buying underwear to fix a boyfriend’s ball-scratching or Samantha’s struggle with a tiny penis—to critique societal norms around dating and attraction. These jokes reveal deeper truths about emotional vulnerability, identity, and how people cope with loss. The show also explores self-image through fashion and grooming, such as Carrie’s evolving hair, which mirrors her emotional state.
Brand promotions, including Honeylove, Shopify, and BJ’s, are integrated naturally into the characters’ lives, reflecting real-world consumer habits. Ultimately, the episode blends humor and sincerity to show how personal growth occurs not through grand gestures, but through small, everyday choices and honest conversations. The tone remains warm and reflective, celebrating the resilience of friendship and the messy, often humorous process of healing.
FAQs
It means that fall gradually comes into your life—not suddenly, but through small, layered changes like the air, light, and the way familiar items begin to connect with each other.
It describes fall as something you create layer by layer—through clothing combinations, like a jacket with a dress or a hoodie beneath a blazer—until the season feels authentic and personal.
Mint Mobile offers premium wireless service for just $15 per month, with a low upfront cost of $45 for a three-month plan, and promises better value than traditional high-cost plans.
Shopify provides tools for designing a website, marketing, selling, and managing a business from start to growth, helping entrepreneurs like Mattel or All Birds succeed.
It highlights the theme of relationships and breakups, using the baseball game as a metaphor for emotional connections, with characters navigating new relationships and past heartbreaks.
The final breakup rule states that if you don’t get over a breakup, you can only do so through a heartfelt conversation with your friends, not alone.
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