Session 97: Glen Powell Returns

(upbeat music) - Hi, Pussyies, welcome back to Therapus. Tonight we have on my dear friend, movie star, greatest person of all time, Glenn Pavlon. I'm so happy that he came back to promote his new show, Chad Powers, which drops on Hulu September 30th. I was lucky enough to see the show and it is amazing. It is like, it's hard for me to laugh out loud at things sometimes on at shows and I really laughed out loud at this. It just feel good, it's funny, it's needed. But for this episode, Glenn invited me to his house in Austin so he could show me what a real Austin weekend looked like, including a UT game day. And all I have to say is, I think Glenn is the mayor of Austin, Texas. I've never seen anything like that in my entire life. I had the best time ever on Friday night. We went to dinner, went to Benson Boone, Saturday was just, I felt like I was back in college. It, we woke up game day. I would drink, I must have drank for 24 hours straight. But it was literally the best time ever. And I think that's what makes this episode feel so special is because I have such incredible memories to go along with it. Kaya came with us. She was the most fun, like we had the most fun ever. Kaya and I and Glenn got to shoot off the cannon at the UT game, which is not a real cannon. I thought it was, it's not, but it was very loud nonetheless. I met their mascot, they won 55 to zero, which was amazing. It was such a fun time, Glenn. Thank you for having me, thank you for coming back on. You can stream his new show, Chad Powers out on Hulu, September 30th. It is amazing. And yeah, to submit a tell me what's wrong, go to pass that place.com, click tell me what's wrong, leave a name and number if you're feeling fancy. And enjoy the episode. Love you, Pussies. [MUSIC PLAYING] Howdy, Pussies. Welcome to Austin, Texas. We are here with my dear friend, movie star, Glenn Powell. That's not buddy. I am so excited to be here. I'm very excited. You're here at Austin, Texas, dude. We've already taken the place by storm. We really, we really have. We saw-- well, we had a day yesterday. Yes, we did. We flew together. Yes. Briskett slept in my lap. The whole, the whole way, the most adorable thing I've ever seen. We both fell asleep. I try not to make a habit of taking pictures of people while they're asleep, but I really wanted to. I know, and then I woke up because my phone fell out of my hand. That's how I knew it was really asleep. Yeah, it was aggressive. Yeah, it was like a clunk. And I was like, oh, wow. I fell asleep. And I would just like to say, not to flex on myself, but I am your first guest here in this house. You were my first house guest. I'm like so honored, like you've tested out the bed. I saw you wake up in your jammies this morning. It's like coordinated pajamas. I know it. I know what Jake's morning voice sounds like. What can you do the morning voice? I woke up. Everyone was up, and they woke up, and I said, hi. I was in my-- So delicate. I know. It's so delicate. Before the beast awakens. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we also-- We had a night last night. We tore one off, so I'm like, I'm very impressed with how delicate your voice sounded. I was hungover. Yeah, me too. Benson, I'm sorry for blacking out at your concert. I blacked out a Benson Boone. You earned it, but we did it, right? I've never experienced anything like that. We did have a drinking game. Yes, we did. Every time Benson took the backflip or any sort of athletic thing, we chugged for 10 seconds straight. Yeah, 10. And Glenn and Kai were like, because Kai is here too with us, and they were like, maybe we do like five seconds, and I said, no. No, no, you were on a tear. Yeah. You also said, when we had our first drink earlier on, you were like, I'm going to black out tonight. And I was like, this guy's like-- he's not saying it like question mark. It was like an exclamation point. Yeah, it was statement. And I did that. And let me tell you something. And I didn't wake up too long over. Maybe it's the alcohol in Texas, but it's not bad. We were going-- you did espresso martinis, which I was worried about, but I will say my favorite part about you taking the first sip. You were really muted in the car. Kai and I were kind of worried about you. And then all of a sudden, a first sip of espresso martini. And I was like, the beast is coming out tonight. Right, because I was so tired and I was so hungry, Glenn and I, we woke about three in the morning for a six a.m. flight. And so I was like, OK, I'm going to nap. And then I didn't end up nap. And I really tried, but I was watching Chad Powers, which comes out. Comes out September 30th. So we're just a few days away. A few days away. It is so incredible. So yeah, so basically, yeah, it becomes-- they're holding this open tryouts for a quarterback at this college that we made up in the show. All the colleges around us are real. But South Georgia, University of South Georgia, catfish are a team we made up. But they need a quarterback. And so, yeah, Russ Holiday, who's canceled the world hates him, puts on prosthetics and tries out and becomes like the starting quarterback for the University of South Georgia catfish. And how long, and you said it took you how long every morning for these prosthetics? It's like an hour. These guys got-- I mean, started off at like two hours, and then these guys got it like down to like an hour. They're like such animals. And did you, where's the prosthetics ever heavy? Like was it ever hot out? Were you ever like, oh, I can't do this? There was like one day, when I was doing tryouts in the show, where this is my buddy, Josh. Hi, Josh. Hi, Josh. Hey. Welcome to the party. That's Josh. Hook up. We went to college together. Do you want to hear-- you want to sit down for two seconds? Do you want to hear the way that Josh and I met? Yes. So Josh and I met on a Southwest flight. OK, so Southwest, that's the one where it's like the Hunger Games, right? [INAUDIBLE] Yeah, I come, Josh. Come on, Josh. Come on, Josh. So you met on a Southwest flight. So Josh and I were flying to-- was it Texas O-- No, it wouldn't Texas OU because we were flying to Austin, but what game-- I don't remember what game it was. But we basically-- we ran into a bunch of my friends that we had mutual friends that all went to UT. And we got so buck wild on this flight that this flight attendance kept bringing us new little minis, minis like-- It has like 20 minis out the halls by the time we left, stuffed in our boots. From the Southwest flight. Southwest-- it was a rowdy Southwest flight I've ever been on. And then we went out with the flight attendance on 6th Street in Austin afterwards. What? How old were you guys? We were 21? My god, probably 21, 22. So Southwest is the one where it's like, first come first serve. Yes. So I saw some mutual friends in the back of the plane. And so I went to them. And I had not met Glenn yet, but then-- You know, rest of the game like fast friends after that. I knew you were there for a football weekend. Yeah, we were there for-- I don't remember what game it was. But it was a game at the Texas stadium, DKR. DKR. Yeah, Darryl K. Royall. That's it. When people say DKR, I'm going to teach him. I'm going to teach him the Texas fight chant. We got to teach him like, the eyes of Texas. Am I going to the game? I see you got-- Yeah, I got a new hat today, like-- Allen's boots. Who is Allen? No, no, it's not Allen. We went to Tacovas. OK, got it. So Tacovas. Who's Allen? Allen, that was like an iconic boot store that's-- Got it, got it, got it, got it, got it. But Tacovas, like, tricked us out. So he's got him like a hat. He's got him with like the button down, the jeans, the whole thing. We'll get you every fight song by the time we're done. I'm going to sing my heart out, OK? There you go. Wait, can you-- Nope. No, no, no. Better. Better. Not that. Not that. There it is. OK, there you go. So it's this. Yes. So this is a horn. Yeah. And it's a long-- And it's a long-- And it's a long-- And what is he? He's a long horn. He's like a huge steer. Is that a deer? No, steer. Like a big bull. Yeah, like a-- A long horn thing. Is that like a-- You guys go bull riding here? I mean, more of a-- We're more of like mechanical bull riding. We're more of a mechanical bull. Right. I need to ride a mechanical bull later. I bet we could make that happen. Can we-- We're talking about our flights at like five in the morning. So we'll stay up. I'm with you now. So are we all fine together? Yes. We just have to stay up. We're thinking about bringing Jake on 6th Street tonight. I think we go 6th Street. Maybe we go to a frat party. I think there will be a mechanical bull there. I think I'll bring him to like a frat party before-- We want to go to stay up. What does it say? What does it say? What does it say? I'm with you now. Yes. We could go to Sammy. I think I think Cigaps is going to be kicking off though. I want to go where it kicks off. Yeah. Oh, they're like next door. We'll go hook around. And it's like parents weekend. Yeah, it is parents together. Is it really? Yes, so I think it'll be fun. We could go-- we could go-- We could go shotgun beers with moms and dads and then call it a day. Yeah, we'll get you to take a hat. We'll do the whole thing. You guys are going to get me drunk. We know what a hat is. A hat. So there's certain organizations on campus that like you sort of need an initiation to get in. And so there's two in particular that they have a hat like that. But before it's formed and steamed, it's basically just a felt funnel. And so they pour drinks, whatever it could be beer. It could be whiskey. It could be a mystery. And you basically have to just chug hats. I want to-- I think I want to do that. Yeah. Oh, we for sure can do it. Yeah, we'll go down the field and you'll take a little ticket basically shocking a beer out of a hat. I have to do that. It's very salty. I have to do that. You're the best taste. No, it's a right. I don't drink for the taste. Yeah, it's better than taking a boot. A boot. You can drink. I think I want to do a boot. I mean, it's like, start with that. We'll work your way up to a boot. You from the East Coast? No, I'm from, I'm actually from California. I'm from San Diego. Do I give you an East Coast? But I hear New York all the time. East Coast. Jew. Yeah. Well, I think we're going to have the best ever. Yeah, it's going to be awesome. We're going to, we're going to kick off this thing in about two hours. I think everybody's getting over here. So to make yourself at home, you're in the back. This is, yeah, let me get back to it. You cut all that out. Kaya is here this weekend as well. Yes, she joined the party. Kaya, are you having a good time? Yeah. So what were we talking about? We were talking about Chad powers. You were talking about you pitch Chad powers. I said it's like H2O just had water, but for football. Yeah, and I didn't know it. I watched Aqua Marine. With JoJo, JoJo is in it. Sarah Paxton, who I had a huge crush on as a kid. You did. Right around my Spy Kids three era. You know what is so funny that we realized in the car yesterday is I look just like your Cosme and Spy Kids. Honestly, Halloween's coming up. If you want me to do it, if you wanted to go as Juni Cortez and Spy Kids, I think that's a strong move. Should I do it? Maybe I can get you the original cost. Don't play with me. How old were you guys when you filmed this? I was probably 13. Yeah, so I don't even fit into clothes from when I was 19. I mean, this is this is like I could probably get a like a custom one made up. Okay, I have to be doing shot at all here in Austin. You're in the right place. So that how did you Spy Kids was your first role? Spy Kids was my first like movie movie. And did you were they doing open casting in Austin? Yeah. So I just like auditioned for this thing. I actually auditioned for this guy. Edog and logos, which I play the description of the character was like he had a go T. You know, I had like a really high voice. I was like kid. I was like Mickey Mouse and I had like there was no facial hair and sight. And so I auditioned for this role. And it was me. It was three three guys that are auditioning for two roles or four guys are auditioning for two roles. And I finally they I get down. We're meeting with like Robert Rodriguez and I was like, what am I doing here? Like there's like three guys with beards and there's me. And then I ended up auditioning and he ended up giving me a different role. Oh, what initial role were you auditioned for? It's called Edog and logos. They're like these kind of bad guys. I thought those were the casting directors. I wasn't auditioning for sorry. I was like, wait, I that's kind of cool. Edog and logos would be badass casting director names. This was this was the characters like in this like, you know, video game or whatever. And then I ended up playing like this like, you know, ruler of the arena of misfortune, which is a badass title. All right. Okay. So you're not in Shark Boy and Lava girl. No, no, no. Okay. They made that afterwards. And like I have no. Sorry, I get a lot. Yes. Yes. But you know what you are in that I've never spoken to you about endurance. Yeah. Endurance Fiji. Yeah. Yeah. Survivor for kids. My sister was an endurance Fiji. Okay. My little sister. So I I was an endurance Mexico. Please like, you don't understand how important that show was to me. What was it like? So so for anybody that doesn't know endurance is like a kids like survivor. It was like, you know, everybody competing to like discovery. Yeah. It's like underage. It's a kids doing survivor. And they did the first season like California like Catalina islands. Second season was in Mexico. And in like, like, you know, the very tip of Mexico kind of like see a Cortez area. So I got on that season. And I was super pumped like I auditioned for I auditioned twice. I auditioned for Mula Beach, which was the original kind of like test. Right. Endurance. Then endurance won. I auditioned that too. Didn't get either. And then they said, Hey, we really want you for endurance too. And I finally got on the show. And I'm like super excited. Like, you know, like you go out there. They do the whole drum roll to it. You meet all the kids. You're like, you show up on donkeys. Like you meet this guy. It's show up on donkeys to the desert. I'm like stoked. I'm like, ready. I was like training for it. And then the first challenge. I drop off this bar. I kicked off the show. What was the challenge? The challenge was basically you hold a bar over your head. So it's like, you hold this bar over your head. And if you dip the bar too much, the platform below you drops. So all of a sudden, when I was like kind of testing out the thing, I like kind of stood on my tippy toes thought, think it was going to help me. And so I basically didn't have very much room to give. So I dipped it a little bit and the platform dropped. And I was in the water before I knew it. And I was like, I'm going to get made fun of the next like 10 years of my life for this shit. And it was tough. Like it was like to also like be playing football in high school. And like you just kind of got to high school. How old were you? I was like 14. And then you get kicked off this like show that kind of like everybody was watching on Saturday morning. I was like this sucks. And when I was when I got kicked off, I was so upset with myself that I walked and I hit my head on a camera boom. I still have a scar on my forehead from hitting like a giant camera crane. I need stitches. Yeah. So endurance left scars. Yeah. Like emotional and physical. Yes. Wow. That was my favorite show as a kid. So do you do and your which sister was on it? Leslie. So my little sister Leslie was on Fiji was on Fiji. So she like a couple years later, maybe the next year. She was the next year. Was it the next year? I was my favorite. So she was like, I was like, hey, we need to redeem the family name. Right. I can't leave it like this. So we got my little sister. I helped her with the audition video. And she got on the next show. And she nearly won it. She was like, she got second place. She should have gotten first place. It was like a. So okay. So like with all the drama behind the scenes real. I mean, I wasn't on the show, man. I got kicked off right. I know. But I'm just saying like, oh, do you watch Survivor now or now? Not really anymore. No. I've never seen it. I watched it. I watched it early on. I watched it early on was like first couple seasons. I've never seen Survivor. It's great. Right. It's okay. I can't believe still going. But it's it's the kid Survivor thing was like way more dramatic because it was like, you know, like when you're in like 16, 17 years old, like 15, like girls. Like everybody, like the emotional and kind of like romantic dynamics are kind of so heightened off of so little. You're like a crush on this girl. Heaten who was on the show. And I was really bummed because I like fell for her on the first day. And then I got kicked off. That would have been such a good storyline. Yeah. She wasn't my first kiss, though. Wait, what? Like a year later. How did you keep in touch with Keaton? I the whole like endurance crew like kept in touch. How did you keep in touch without group chats? That's a great question. What was it, aim? Yes, it was. I think it was like aim. Like it was always like kind of like, yeah. It was kind of the same thing. You just had to like log on. And then you all hung out. We all hung out. I went to her place. My first kiss was at her place in North Carolina. And I was super excited because I was like, I knew she liked me. And like we were about to watch the ring. Remember that movie, the ring with a little bit out of TV. Yes. Did you watch the OG or the American line? OG. Oh, that one's scary. And so I was like that vibe where she's like, okay. She's starting to get close to her cuddle. I'm like, oh, that's what that's all. And so I get my first kiss that night. All the guys were kind of helping me like get alone and like make it happen. So I nailed it right off the bat. I was like super happy. I was like, man, you know how to make out. You are born for this thing, man. And then, and then, and then like a few weeks later, we go to Connecticut of our buddy, Mike's house. How old were you? You were just hopping from state to state. I was always moving around. But this crew like we like really liked each other. The whole crew like from endurance stuck together. And so I went to Mike's house. And we went to go see the haunted mansion, the haunted mansion movie. The Disney movie Eddie Murphy, haunted mansion. So we saw that. And I'm like, I'm about to get my second kiss like this about to go down. So I'm like leaving the theater. And I would do this thing as a kid like where I do like skateboard moves. You know, like where you jump off of something and kind of like like spin. You know, like, all right, I was not as cool like parkour. It's like park or it was like early park or we do like skateboard moves without a skateboard. You like jump up on like like rails and like jump off of. You just unlocked a memory from when I have guy friends in fifth grade. Oh my god. Yes, I know exactly what you were talking about. You just kind of do like it's like skateboard parkour. Yes. So I did was doing skateboard parkour. Didn't realize Keaton had followed behind me. And I spun. Oh, and I knocked her into the I elbowed her in the face and I broke her nose. So she's like bleeding out like fully like like fully puffy like it's like it's like gruesome. And I was like I was like. It just sort of like really summed up my love life for the next like well, you know, were you like. I'm so sorry. He and like you don't know. I mean, there's nothing to do. You just like you ruined it in so many ways. She's all she feels weird because like she like oh, it's fine. I know she's like trying to play it off and it was like really not good. Do you know where she is now? Yeah, Keaton. Keaton lives in LA. She's I think she works for the Jennifer Hudson show now. Do you believe in fate? Yes, I do. I was just recently on the Jennifer Hudson show. Do you know Keaton? No, but I'll tell you about my experience on the Jennifer Hudson show. They sang me a song. song down the spirit are you gonna go on the Jennifer Hudson show I don't have plans to but I've been on there before you know what can I tell you about the Jennifer Hudson show I it's a really fun show I've been I've been I really like her I find the the dance line to be very intimidating it was that's all I I was my dream like once I did the dance sign I said okay I can be done now I I like a dance move like like even Josh I was at Joshua's wedding I would consider myself like a dance party starter oh you are like I feel like you get a couple drinks in me and you put me on a dance floor to wedding I like really kick things off I find the social like going doing a dance line sort of like a TikTok dance line is just a little more pressure of course you know what I mean that's like of course maybe I maybe I'd meet the occasion but I'm not sure when I tell you you would meet the occasion like I can't describe the energy in that spirit tunnel they go one two three and you go around the corner and everyone starts clapping and cheering I will say meeting the occasion that last night you I was we went on stage at Benson Boone and when they asked me in front of kind of Benson hey would you want to do this thing and I was like oh like you know maybe and and like we kind of felt like hawkers I was like I don't know if I'm up for this and so it was really helpful your drinking game was extremely helpful to me getting on Benson Boone and can we talk about the merch the merch is great red white and boon only Austin Texas served it up it's not even their own merch you can't get that shit anywhere we have like six of them here we do have six of them if you get lucky you can get one later a red white and boon hat we went to Benson Boone last night no but we took a shot we like drank every time he did a backflip well then then they were like okay so you're gonna come on stage you're gonna shoot out this t-shirt you go I'm was like okay great and then they're like would you wear this jumpsuit and I said you know what like Glenn I like what you're wearing right now and Kaya heard like do would you shoot out the t-shirt Kaya's like obviously do it it's gonna be so fun and I can't have an original thought or my own opinion to save my life so I'm like yeah 100% like you should wear the jumpsuit like do whatever you need to do like where I obviously switched up on the moment and then Glenn came back and was like are you guys sure about the jumpsuit and I'm like 100% cuz you're like a Benson Boone jumpsuit out there I was like I just like I don't know if this feels like me man I'm like I Kaya was like jumpsuit and I go what what do you jump what and she goes jump suit and I'm like well he we both just agreed that he should wear the jumpsuit and she's like no we didn't I said he did the t-shirt and I'm like oh yeah you shouldn't wear the jumpsuit that was so funny I was like I mean you really did pitch me on that yeah Kaya was like it's gonna be so fun and silly and I'm like 100 and 10 percent I'm so glad I didn't wear the jumpsuit how long have we been talking about this weekend for a while I mean like I've been pitching you on Austin for a while and I've been telling you need to come to a Texas game in Austin for a really long time I I knew you're gonna look probably pretty good in cowboy hat but I didn't expect this I mean I chose when when when when when you put that hat on earlier today time stopped time stopped I was like I was like this man has been put into Austin for a reason can I tell you I've never put on jeans that fit right away I put them on I said and then I said okay okay like let's not get to ahead of ourselves let me try on the shoes everything fit like a glove I'm meant to be here it's a solid vibe I this cowboy era of yours you're like I don't know what the cowboy it's like cowboy Shane what's the what's the what's the not cowboy quarter we got we got to figure out like a nickname for you my cowboy name yeah you think there's like a cowboy name generator is a good cowboy name Shane is a good cowboy name Shane is there's a cowboy name generator I'll do that today all right this will be your alter ego this isn't this is how I like you know how you can do like your porn star name yeah what's yours like it's what your first treat in your first dog max pick fair max pick fair that's a good porn star name mine is um Rupert Frasier Rupert Frasier you dirty dog Rupert Frasier yeah yeah Rupert Rupert yeah we woke up one day Rupert was dead oh why we don't know still wait still yeah cold case of your dog I know we sold you went to UT it's get away from here my dad dog Rupert that I actually didn't know about my parents talk about all the time it's weird you went to UT I did did you enjoy college I loved college what was it like for you do you have any crazy stories like what is your favorite story that you can share on air you a story I've never told anyone that I think about every time I go to the to the Texas stadium at a do you care royal stadium which is like D.K.R. one of my favorite dates in college is D.K.R. I was going through some construction at the time when I was a freshman and so there was like the gates were a little lower like it wasn't as fortified as it normally is so I took a girl into the stadium late at night I brought a vodka some orange juice and we basically had a picnic in the middle on the 50 yard line of the stadium and watched the sunrise drinking screw drivers are you serious it's like it's like a great little like romantic Austin memory I have from like yeah that's like that's like a fuck yeah that is really romantic yeah do you want a second date yeah no we were friends throughout like all the college but it wasn't like it wasn't like one of those where you're like okay this is probably gonna go anywhere but we're still friends and is she like that was the best day of my life I don't know if she til talks about it I guess I do that is really really that's like out of a rom yeah it was like a good it was like a good especially for like I grew up in Austin and like I've been a long-horn fan my whole life obviously like my couches are burn orange it's like you know there's nothing more romantic to me than college football really yeah I like if a girl wears burnt orange that you said by far the sexiest color for me that's it she has your heart that's it wow okay and so okay and like when you have kids are you gonna like be like you have to like I want you guys to go to UT or you're gonna like dress them in burn orange I think I just like when I when I start to think about like other college existence like there's there's no better place to go than the University of Texas it was like you're in Austin Texas you've experienced a little bit of Austin so far I want to get you guys here for a little longer next time but like to be in Austin which is the greatest in the world to be like there's no better culture than UT it's actually a great school it's not like a party school I mean there's parties but it's like work hard play hard right it's one of the best schools in the country it's like phasing out IVs now is it really yeah yeah it's like it's like it's like kicking IVs off the list of like prestigious colleges and a lot of the top professors in the country are coming here so it's just like one of those things like you have everything here would you ever be on the board if they asked you the board of UT yeah yeah I probably do that because I'm helping them try to build out the film program wow I mean because it's already it's already a great film program but I'm trying to make sure like we bring you know cool people to Texas okay and you can help me with that you know what I mean like your brain all the cool kids here I will but I will help you with that wait so how can you talk about the bats yes we didn't get to see the bats I'm still can I just tell you what I'm a little confused by what I remember is that you Austin has a mosquito problem yes and so back in the day they I actually you know what I'm not understanding the story you know it's gonna be this is gonna be sort of like the urban legend I told last time on your podcast about the girl I don't know if it's totally true but here we're gonna go again let's saddle up I was like I was like I was like no this is a true story I was like why you're like hey you just want a fact check is that true and I'm like totally true I knew that everyone was seeing that when my straight male friends called me and they were like you were on my Twitter today and I said really it's me like totally buying into a story that I had it's so funny by the way I saw your sister at my shell she was like no that's true that is true I was told that the whole family that's the funniest part is we've been telling that story for literally years as it's fact and we could like my little sister like when I when you ask me you're like hey is that a is that a true story and I was like let me just ask my little sister double check but I'm like I'm almost positive she's like no that's a true story it happened on my like pledge sister I was like great and then all of a sudden just everybody checks you on it they're like that is not true and I was like so this mosquito story may or may not be true but this is what I believe happened okay so there's there's mosquitoes in in Texas and they wanted to help with the mosquito problem so they brought in a lot of bats to like help take down this mosquito problem and so now we have a ton of bats which is not a bad thing that means you have a fewer bugs but now there's two million bats under the Congress bridge and so like every night around 730 in the fall the bats come out so the sky kind of goes black and it's just like people gather on the bridge grab drinks they're on the bridge and just like watch the bats fly out you know what as we're as I'm hearing this story I am confused on how they would transport two million bats to get rid of the mosquitoes it's happening again you know what I mean like I'm happening again because yesterday I was told that I was like oh period like good for Austin like they really figured that out but now I'm like how did they transport that many bats look I am not into bat transport logistics right okay there's got to be a bat guy I mean think about like if you transport anything have you ever been like on the side of the road you see like those like reptile farms you know what no no they don't have that what you ever see Yeah, you're like, go on the side of the road. It's like reptiles, you can go and see like, alligators and snakes and stuff. You've never seen this. - Have this in Los Angeles? - Maybe not LA. - It's probably like more of a Texas Louisiana thing. If you and I take a road trip-- - Tell 'em play with me. - We'll go to one of these reptile farms on the side of the road. It's like, you can literally see just like, just like red necks that just have like reptiles hanging out in their house. It's like the weirdest thing. - You actually wanna go on a road trip? - Yeah, we should go on a road trip. I would love that. You gotta wear the hat. - I would literally dress up in whatever. That's how it did. Way worse when it came out of my mouth. But yeah, I'm not really sure about bat logistics. I mean, I'm not sure how you would transport bats, but I just gotta be a guy. - Right. - There's a guy for everything. - There must be. And where'd your siblings go? Did they all go to UT as well? - My older sister Lauren went to A&M, which is Texas A&M, so that's like a conversation. That's a fun school. And then my little sister Leslie went to UT. All my cousins went to UT. My grandparents met at UT. - Oh, so you're like from a UT love story? - Yeah, yeah. Everybody, like, game days have always just been the thing that brings my family together. No one misses it every Saturday. - So what am I about to experience at this game guy? - Well, in about an hour, all my, like a bunch of my friends are gonna come over. We're gonna pre-game here. The college pre-game's good. So I'm gonna teach you the Texas fights, huh? - What's one of them? - This is, this is when we score. ♪ To buy a new ♪ ♪ Texas five ♪ ♪ And Texas five ♪ ♪ Texas five ♪ ♪ It's put over one more week ♪ ♪ Texas five ♪ ♪ Texas five ♪ ♪ Four Texas that we love best ♪ ♪ Give 'em hell, give 'em hell ♪ ♪ Make 'em eat shit ♪ ♪ You got it, man ♪ - So I'm gonna be honest, that's like a whole verse. - No, no, no, no. You're gonna be fine. We'll get there, but that is better. - Give 'em hell, give 'em hell. - You could say, I think, what's the original lyric? - Go horns, go. - Go horns, go. - But when you're, like, if you're, if you're a few drinks and you say make 'em eat shit. - Okay. - So how much of chat powers was based off of your college experience? - Well, I mean, a lot of it came from my love of college football, right? Like I always like felt like when you go to like a football game in the South, like people, like you're gonna experience, it's like way more fun than an NFL game, 'cause like people are just going buckwad. You're gonna be, it's a night game. So people are like, they tailgate all day and they're just like really passionate. It's like the best. So like when I was a kid, the Texas one, the National Championship. When I was a sophomore in high school. And I like went down on the UT campus and we'd like danced on top of cars. They lit the tower up like orange. It was just like, it was just like one of those that you're like, it's the most fun. So I was trying to go, how can I take all that fun of college football and put it in the show? And so when Eli and Peyton were like, hey, what would you do with this? I, you know, my buddy Michael Waldron and I just like came up with this idea that was kind of like Mrs. Doubtfire in the world of college football. How could I forget the best part of the pitch? When you are, when you see Glatt or Russ Holiday in the show sees the open tryouts for the Georgia team, he looks up 'cause he's transporting the prosthetics for his dad, looks up and sees a Mrs. Doubtfire poster. We just had to hang a lantern on exactly what we were doing. That was like the whole thing. It's like, you just said, okay, let's just call it out. We're doing Mrs. Doubtfire in college football. I was it like, was it one of your most fulfilling and fun projects to have her film? It's just like, you know, look, my job is just to entertain people. Like I think a lot of people get like in their head about like it being trying to be cool or whatever it is, like awardsy. Like for me, like I try to make what I would watch. And this is a show that I would totally watch. It's like, it's like, it's fun. It's heartfelt, it's cinematic. It's got like, you know, we spent a lot of time making sure the football was real. The comedy was actually funny. Like nobody on the show was like phoning it in. And it was really fun because we all had a blast. But I find myself, I find that I'm happiest on a set when I'm surrounded by smart people who are just like, don't take themselves too seriously. Right, and it was just a fun time. The best, like the greatest. Greatest cast, great writer's room. Just, were you in the writer's room? Yeah. What's in writer's room like? A writer's room is basically a group of people. So Michael Waldron and I came up with a show. And we took Eli's concept and we were like, okay, here's what we think we would do. We sort of outline generally where we want the show to go. Like where it stops, where it ends. And the, you kind of, you kind of just outline like what, because you write all these characters. And the writer's room kind of gets together and says, okay, like what is the most exciting version of all this? And so it's basically just a lot of smart people. Funny people. I mean, I'm in the writer's room right now. And it's like, it's just a fun, if best group of people that everybody's there to like put their heads together. It's like a fun team sport. Like that's what I love about this business at its best. It's like, you have fun people who are talented and they get in a room and you try to just make the best thing you possibly can. But like our writer's room was like top of the top. We had like everybody wanted to be a part of the show. It's cool. Wow, wait, so we were talking last night though. Aren't we talking about this last night in the car? Like when we see a show or movie, it's like, what's the why? Yeah. What do you think Chad Powers is, why is? I think the why, I mean, one of the things that I, I'm not gonna say who it was. But there was, I was at a party and I showed up at the party and there was somebody that had basically been on the ropes in terms of sort of getting canceled, right? And there's like, you know, it's kind of a big public. It was one of those Hollywood parties where it's like, there are cameras and press and all that stuff. And this person had made a lot of some of my favorite movies. And I was like, oh, like this is, this is great. Like, and he came up and he said nice to meet you. So I was like, oh, dude, big, big fan. And then a photographer said like, hey, can we take a picture of the two of you guys? And this person was recently canceled. And I was like, it was like, I was like, not good. I was a fan of their work, but not a fan of their choices. Right. So I was just kind of being nice. But then when you, you're, they want to take a picture with you. I realized very quickly how like, I was like, oh, I don't know if it's a good idea. He clearly clocked that I was like, this is probably not a good idea. And I realized I was like, this guy, his face is toxic. You know, like going out of the world, like people are having a visceral reaction to this person in terms of the bad choices they've made. And, you know, the character that I play in Chad, it's like, Russ Holiday is a guy that just made a mistake, right? He's not a bad guy. Some of these other people that get canceled, they should, they should lie where they're shot. But where, where, but like, with Russ, he made a mistake. He acted, you know, poorly about it. And the world kind of didn't forgive him. And he couldn't forgive himself. And what I found to be really interesting is that in today's day and age, like, there's a lot of, like the cancel culture is just sort of a thing like how the world doesn't really let you forget your mistakes. You know, we talked about with phones, you know, with TikTok. And Instagram is like, so many people make mistakes. And the internet doesn't let you forget. Right. And I found it to be interesting how people react to those moments. You know, what they double down on. Do they take accountability in those moments? Do they, they, you know, believe in conspiracy theories? Do they blame other people? Do they do all this other stuff? And I found that like, just having a character that's like learning to say, I'm sorry, learning to say, like, I wish I ever would have done it differently. All those things is like a really beautiful thing. Because especially when you do go through those moments, like, I think we've probably all gone through life where we just want to have a different face. Like, we don't like ourselves. We don't like want to do that. And I feel like the fresh start, it sort of like, creates an underdog story, which is just the blank slate of somebody who goes, Hey, I made a bunch of mistakes. And I just want to do it better this time. And this guy Chad Powers kind of offers him a second chance to do the thing you love, you know? Yeah. And it's also really, really funny. Yeah, it's great. Was there ever a scene that you like couldn't get through without laughing? There's a scene, there's a scene that shower scene that you, you were talking about where I basically am talking. Russ Holidayb says like he pretends like he's really good at improv. He's like, I don't need to like worry about backstory of like creating this character, Chad Powers, because like, I got it. And so he, the coach asked him why he's not showering with his teammates. And Chad is basically makes up. He's like, you know, you know, my, my, you know, my p-hole. It's, it's big, it's far too big. And if water gets up there, you know, I could fall ill. And it's just like, so it's like, it just like makes up this like p-hole lie off the check off the bat. And like, it was the funniest scene because like, I don't think I was like, Steve Zahn is like, who plays the coach, you know, coach Hudson, who's like brilliant. He's one of my, he's one of the funniest people on the planet. And his reactions were like killing me. And also, I don't think I was expecting to see in his coverage, like behind him, there's like a bunch of naked guys that are actually on the shower. Right. So I was like talking about p-holes. And there's like a bunch of naked guys, yeah, Steve Zahn. It was just like a lot, it was, it was too much. Right. It was too much at the same time. But the show is like, I'm really proud of the show. I think it's like, I've showed it to a variety of different people. I like when I'm making something, I like to show people all across the board to just get a sense of like, how it's being received and who it's being received by. And it's basically like 100%. Everybody loves it. It's amazing. And congratulations. Thank you, thank you. Can we talk about Ronnie Man? Yes. I visited you on the set of Ronnie Man in London, and you taught me how to do stunts. Yes. That was the one thing that, uh, So. So, Jake came to visit me on Running Man. And I was in the middle of learning some stunt choreography where I get basically hit by these like goons. And I was very impressed by your ability. - Really? - I really was. I was like, dude, what do we do it for three minutes? - Yeah, something like that. - Three minutes and you picked up the whole like, the whole choreography. - Yeah, it was amazing. And I've never, there's like a scene on a plane and like, they literally built an entire plane to shoot the whole thing on. - On like a gimbal, so they could like make it drop and spin and all that stuff. So that was scary when you would sit the like video village or not video village, but like the people like here and makeup and whatever would sit towards the back of the plane to like run in after the shot. And like, the whole thing would shake and drop. I felt like I was on a roller coaster. - People were like puking. It was like, it was like, in theory, it was great. But the thing is once it goes up on the gimbal, you're sort of removed so people can't like get on and off the plane. - Yeah, I couldn't get off. - So everybody's like stuck on the plane while it's doing all these things. So I'm doing a fight scene in like a moving airplane that's dropping out of the sky and rolling and all the stuff. And so, yeah, everybody was getting sick that it was not, it was like, I was in there for three weeks in this fight scene. - No, you weren't. The plane took three weeks. - Three weeks. - That was a lot. - Yeah. - Are you excited for people to see running man? - It's so good. It's really good. Yeah, so I mean, we're locking that. In the next couple of days, but we've been, you know, there's this thing called testing, where they like put it up in front of like random audiences and like New Jersey or Vegas or whatever. And just like across the board, people are loving it. So it's amazing. I feel like you didn't have a single break in the past year. Did you have any moments to like chill? - I think it's been like the weird part about this latest thing is like I'm having a great time. Like I'm like, I'm getting to make great stuff with great people and the cast are like been awesome. It is like a wild pace. - Right. - Like it's a, I don't think, I mean, you know how it is. It's like whenever like there's like kind of momentum in the stuff stuff. And I'm like, I wanna keep it going. - Yeah, well you work your ass off like your whole life. You know, like I've been doing this since I was 10 years old. You know, Spy Kids was like, you know, I did music man. I showed, we drove by where I did my first play when I was like 10 years old. I did music man there. And like I wanted to act like every day since then. And so it's really hard to get people to put you in stuff. You know, it's really hard to like get that, to be able to stand on your two feet or feel like you're actually gonna be able to make this, you're living. So like all of a sudden you get there and like when things start working and all of a sudden you're able to do this. It's really hard to kind of like, you know, find the happy medium. I'm doing it now where I can like find the personal life, like work life balance. But it's like to be like, I think I didn't really expect it. It's like to be the lead of a movie is an everyday thing 'cause you're working on a script, you're like running man. - Right. - You're doing, you're in the script with the director. Like you're boarding things. You're working with the stunt people. You're sort of like ensuring the movie along with everybody else. So it doesn't really allow a lot of time for like your own stuff. So your life does you. That's why I bring like my family and friends on set. - I feel like the past year has been like crazy for you. Even since we last spoke on this show, like everything took off that summer and like ways that it hadn't before. And you became so much more visual as well to like the rest, like not visible, sorry, visible to the rest of the world. Like, were you expecting that? Or, you know what's really weird? Is it kind of as, after that summer, right? So like, it was like the summer of like, you know, hitman and twisters and all that stuff. And I did that press tour and then I went back to work, right? So I went and shot Chad Powers. And then I went, actually I did an A24 movie, Chad Powers running man and then this JJ Abrams movie, all back to back. So I really haven't been out in a real world in a weird way. Like I know that sounds crazy, but like, yeah. Like even just like us walking around Austin, some of this still throws me a bit. 'Cause it really hasn't changed my life because I'm on set like you're around. It's like a very, set's a very normalizing place. - Got it. And you were also in London for so long. You shot in London, which is a different culture than America. - Yeah. - I mean, obviously. But like, you know, like, I think like the fandom culture is like way more prevalent here. - Yeah. - And so like walking out. And so is this like really your first kind of time experience saying like what how everything has changed has actually affected your day to day? - Yeah, I think this is like the first time where I'm kind of like, these last few weeks have actually been really interesting. 'Cause I haven't been out in front of it. Even like us get dinner all together last night. - Right. I'm still trying to figure out the rules of like, how to like protect the people at your table, like your friendships, like your family. You're like, how do you, how do you be a human where you're like, 'cause it's so cool when people come up and it's like so nice when people are like fans and they watch your stuff and all that, like I still, I'm like, oh wow. I remember the first time anyone saw anything. I couldn't believe it. You know, like the first time that ever happened, it was like, I think it was expendables or something like that. And so when someone comes up, you're like, whoa, this is really cool. I think it's just hard 'cause I'm developing kind of rules around the experience to try to like just make it like, I'm just trying to be able to do it in a healthy way, which is not, not like it's easier said than done. Right, you know what I mean? And what's a healthy way for you? Like when we were at dinner, I was like, I would, if somebody comes up at dinner, I'll say like, hey, where are you sitting? And they'll point it out and then I'll say, okay, I'll take a picture with you. Do you mind when we do it on the way out when I'm like walking out? And you did remember the table. You remember? And you go there afterwards and you take a picture, but if you do it while you're sitting down, it's sort of everybody will see that you're sort of open for business. Got it. You can't hang out and have a good time. So that's my sort of new rule at dinner as I'll say. I'll find you. And I mean it. Like I will go find your table afterwards. I'll go take a picture. But like if I don't, if I like, if we do it there, then sort of like nights over. (upbeat music) - Hey guys, as you know, I've been working with Bumble these past few weeks and recently, I asked you to help revamp my profile. So first things first, I finally got verified on Bumble, so people knew it was me. But now I'm going to go through my profile and tell you guys what I am changing. Okay, so these are my pictures. The first one is of me in blue pants and in white t-shirt. And everyone said that I should get rid of that. And I kind of agree. I think I'm gonna switch to a more recent photo. One of the tips Bumble gives is to lead with a clear solo photo, but obviously it's important to add friends in as well. My bio is rating and reviewing octopus around the world and being miserable at all times of the day. I actually think I'm going to keep the rating reviewing octopus around the world 'cause that is still true to me today. And I think I'm gonna take out the miserable part, even though I am miserable. I just don't think it's aided in my love search. A few people did write in and tell me that that would scare people off. And I do agree. About me, five, three, active undergraduate degree, wants kids, Scorpio, et cetera, great. My interest, dancing, making videos, gym, concert, sleeping well, pretty true to me today. You guys agree to think I'm gonna keep it. Second photo, I think I'm gonna change it to a photo with me and my friends, maybe a photo of me and my friends on tour. I think that shows my more recent life. My personal hell is not smoking 'til 6 p.m. as you guys all reminded me. I no longer smoke anymore, so that has to change. I'm going to change it to a different prompt. God, this is me and my friend Tom. I don't know, I don't know if I want to change it, but I don't want to put two friend photos in a row. So maybe I'll move it down. My mental health game changer was big pharma, still true. And you guys all thought that was quite funny. So I'm gonna keep that. Also, another tip from Bumble is to keep your answers meaningful and I think medication and anxiety and stuff is very meaningful to me and mental health. This next photo is me on the beach and you all told me that my feet were bugging you out a bit. So I think I'm going to change this to something else. I get way too excited about myself. You all thought that was funny and it is very true. So I'm going to keep that. And then this last photo is three years old. So I'm going to change it probably to me on my most recent trip to New York. There's a photo of me that I can use or maybe me on tour. And here is my refreshed Bumble profile. Some of the same prompts, some different photos. Save me. Bumble, I love you. I can't wait to hopefully find love. (upbeat music) This episode of Therapus is brought to you by booking.com. Booking. Yeah. Okay, so right now, it is about to be the ball season. Okay, there's a lot of people traveling for games in college, out of college, whatever. When I was in college, it was so difficult to plan these games and I could never go 'cause it was so difficult to find a place that everybody could stay. Depending on what the hotel had, like if it had what you needed, if it was in the location you wanted, all of that. And so with booking.com, it actually makes it so easy to book because everybody can put in their different needs. I never go on group trips because finding a place that suits all of us is so difficult, but if somebody wants a king bed, if somebody wants a queen bed, if somebody wants a shower, if somebody wants a tub, if somebody wants a terrace, if somebody wants walkable, you put all these things in and it shows you the rooms that have it all. I really stand by the fact that I think the hardest part about booking a trip is figuring out where you're gonna stay. You know, flights, you always find a flight, you always find activities to do, but finding a home base is so hard and booking.com makes finding a home base for your trip so easy. They also have vacation rentals, like house and apartment rentals. They also have you can rent cars if you drive and you need a car for vacation Like they really have everything you need to make your vacation as full as you need it to be or even if you're going solo Because you want to know that the hotel or the place you're staying at has exactly what you need find exactly what you're booking for on booking.com booking. Yeah Do you remember the first time anyone ever asked you for a photo or an autograph or anything? You know the place. I was on the set of expendables My mom my mom. I got my mom a cameo on on Well, they have cameos in all your films, right? So my mom has my parents have a cameo. My mom has a great one You haven't seen it yet, but episode four in Chad powers my mom plays the moaning woman Moaning woman the moaning woman She's but I get kind of hurt in the in the episode and we're at the hospital and I the writers room came up with this this character where There's a woman in the hospital who like has no apparent injuries But she's just like moaning in the waiting room and I was like this is such a good role for my mom. That's amazing So so my mom Was like I said hey mom. I got your role in episode four. She's like oh my god. I'm so excited. What am I playing? I'm like you're playing the moaning woman. She's like what was it happy about that? But I was like we got past it and then she goes all right So what do I need to do? I want to do a really good job and I said I think it's just be fun like what's gonna play? I'm on whatever's like you're good. You're like we'll be good So she was like no, I want to do a really good job. So she would send me videos of her moaning So my mom is like is this a good moan? Is this a good moan? I'm like man. I think that's good And my little sister would hit me up. She's like hey my mom wants to like do moaning coaching today I'm not kidding So my mom was like taking this so seriously and there was a time where I was like walking down the sidewalk My mom sent me like you know you're on the go. You're just like opening your text watching You know the videos so my mom sent me a video of her moaning. Oh god And and and I was like walking down the sidewalk and like I realized that I was like It sounded like I was just like watching porn Just like everybody like around me's like what is he watching like this terrible. So anyway Um, my mom has a great cameo. She absolutely crushed it. Is she a good job crushed it? I'd just say anybody else in your family have a cameo in my dad has a cameo with Eli Manning So Eli makes a cameo. Oh, we see like this is amazing and my dad is a coach next to Eli, which is great. And then um Yeah, they're like so they're they're everything but my mom was doing a cameo with uh In expendables 3 so Mel Gibson's the bad guy. Uh-huh in expendables 3 so I got her is like part of like the Like the group around Mel Gibson, you know during during that scene and So all of a sudden this guy came up he said do mind taking a picture and I was like oh like it's like my first like somebody Recognizes me this is cool, and then he hands me the camera and takes a pick Asked me to take a picture of my mom. No way to see recognize your mom. Yeah, she's she was the one in front of the camera I wasn't even working that day. I just brought my mom to set to be do her cameo So he didn't even know I was in the movie and that was your first experience with that. How old were you? 24 24 did you enjoy your 20s? I did. I did. I really like honestly being in LA like in your 20s and also like I don't know LA's like kind of LA goes through like these different phases, right? Oh, yeah one of my my best buddies in the world is guy cord over straight and cord was on the show glee Do I know so like we both auditioned for glee no wait, sorry We both watch you audition for the same way sam effan trowdy mouth trowdy mouth. I mean wasn't trowdy mouth at the time Right, so it turned into trowdy mouth with cord. Oh, okay It was really just sam ebbens. It was like it just said But we were both in the waiting room at the same time because we were buddies. We met in acting class. We were like Pulse for a really long time, you know like So it was like we were close and then we were down to the wire on sam ebbens and he got it and But like he's still one of my best friends and we were about to be roommates So we moved in together as he went on this like crazy Glee ride which was like kind of wild to be One of your best friends in the world to be like to watch him kind of go through that thing It was like pretty crazy to be around because it was also like the biggest show in the world right like a lot of people remember that Everybody forgets how everywhere glee was they were selling out stadiums of of yeah glee on tour. Yeah. Did you see glee on tour? I of course I didn't get to go because I threw a temper tantrum in my mom wouldn't buy me the tickets Wow, that's what you get. I know. I know. How was glee on tour. It was epic. What he sang He's saying billionaire stop. Yeah That was the audition song. No, what was it? So you sang billionaire in the audition. Yeah No way Wait, yeah, yeah, it's so funny like looking back like when you look back on the things that like you auditioned for like glee was one of those that Every once in a while you have an audition you're like wow, you know Your life kind of changes, you know and to watch cord like go on that ride was like I mean his he was he couldn't go anywhere So do you remember was it literally after the first episode? He was in everything shifted I remember it was even before it's during his casting Why it was like a big casting like everybody in town was auditioning for this So like all of a sudden he got it and it was like All of LA like change around him really. I phone with that. Oh, you're in glee now. Yeah. Oh wow Where was it awkward when you found out you didn't get the role but he got the role? You don't look at mean Not really. I don't know. I feel like I've always had like a long-term perspective about these things like Things are sort of I don't know maybe I think my dad is like incredibly zen about Just the kind of the ups and downs of life and I grew up with like a very I don't know well-adjusted family and I've never been competitive with other people I've been competitive with myself like if I I don't ever like if I don't get something I don't ever curse the other person's name. I always curse myself being like I remember I auditioned for the longest ride. Do you remember that one the cowboy one the the one a Scotty's would Uh-huh. Do you remember that one? It was like a Nicholas Sparks. Do you know this one right? He's like a bull rider of course You don't you know no come on hold on You you Is this like a really famous poster for the longest ride Nicholas Sparks. Oh notebook He he he he was the author of the notebook Hold on Oh my god. It's Channing Tatum in this. No. Okay. I'll just but it was like it was like one of those like There was like the Nicholas Sparks boom and like I remember I just like got in that audition and I totally crashed. What do you mean crossed like Just couldn't do the job like sometimes you just like get in your head and As an actor every actor's had it happen in an audition like where you got to come ready to play and I've had You have auditions like my Friday night lights audition like I just so sorry. I just wanted it too much and I just literally I Wanted you audition for in Friday night lights. I audition for my original audition here in Austin was Tim Regans. Oh my God I audition for Tim. What did you read? What do you remember what it was the it was the you and me street Forever in Texas that that bit that was the scene that was the audition scene Um, but I mean like Taylor Ketch obviously like smoke that role. I was like iconic like I was also in high school Those guys were all like mid 20s playing high school like they they looked the part Like I I was not a cool looking Tim Regans in high school even though I was playing high school football And you thought like this I've got this like this no Tim Regans like whenever you see like who gets these things. You're like, okay, that actually makes more sense Then I auditioned for Uh Another role that was like the quarterback audition for two different quarterbacks like JD McCoy And something else But like Then I then I was kind of a teenager. I was like, okay, I could I could do this and I just crashed both times really like what does the crash look like? Like you forget your line. It's like where you just it's like an out of body experience like being an actor like you have to be really present Like you have to kind of like be plugged in and kind of just like um There's a relaxation acting that you sort of have to have like you have to be really settled It's like a weird job because you're in front of all these people and yet it has to be like very private it has to feel very intimate and I was just so hyper aware that this was like a job that I wanted too much. Yeah, and so I was like aware of everybody in the room You're aware of all these things happening and I just like I couldn't I couldn't settle into it. And did you make it past the first round? Yeah, I was like it was like it was close on on both of them shot. Yeah, like really close like I was with Pete Berg in the room Chemistry style like it was it was hold full on. I did. Did you ever end up watching Friday night lights? Oh, yeah I watched all of it best show ever. I loved it. I mean, it's a brilliant show That's maybe one of the best shows ever. I think you know why and I'm not even kidding. I kind of agree. Yeah, it's it's yeah It's incredible. I don't think there's any other show that just like it's it's such a good depiction of like American life. Yeah, in like a small town. It takes place where in Texas. Where in Texas? Uh, it takes place in I mean in the original was Odessa Permian was the football team in the movie. This was a place called Dylan Dylan Texas and you know, it's crazy that I don't know that because I dressed up as Tim Riggins for three HoloLinks in a row. You were Tim Riggins Really? Yeah, no way. What age? 22 23. Did you have like 24? No, I wore shirt and I had a football and I put stuff under no, I had a jersey Yeah, I blood. It's the eye black. I had a football and I would pose like this Very Tim Riggins. Yeah Yeah, essentially What's your favorite TV show of all time? Favorite TV show of all time That's a great question When I was a kid I loved fresh Prince of Bel Air. I had this thing like Warner the WB it was like I guess the CW back in the day and it was like But is that where the Mary Kate and Ashley show was on I watched ever Mary Kate and Ashley movie ever I had two sisters and I could quote ever pretty much any Mary Kate and Ashley movie I'd play that game with you actually if you brought a quote out for Mary Kate and Ashley But I could tell you which movies from my the most star struck. Please the most star struck. I've ever been Do you guys you ever see the movie billboard dad now? That's What is billboard dead all right. I'm gonna see you pitch Chad powers all pitch billboard dead. Okay, so billboard dad is about Marikate and Ashley play these two girls their dad is like a sculptor in like Venice Beach I think and he's like the ultimate catch, but he's not putting himself out there So they decide to put up a billboard in LA of their dad being like hey I'm single and then like all these women come out of the woodwork and they're trying to set their dad up right so when I was like This is must've been 10 years ago. I'm in the Apple store and You know you get your stuff fixed you're at the genius bar or whatever and you're sitting there They're taking forever and you're like damn it like I'm just like waiting here all of a sudden billboard dad Comes and sits next to me and we're like just stuck at the genius bar together But I was like this is one of the coolest celebrity interactions ever. Did you say you are billboard dad? I wanted to I did not you did not know that's respectful. Yeah, I watched it takes two a lot Holiday in the sun holiday in the sun. Great one. Package box. Pass for Paris What it was the double double double double I'm playing with me the yeah the the Halloween one great And then what else what what else would you when you when you dress up as Juni Cortez from spike its three We also should watch double double toil and trouble. Is he in double double double trouble? It's gonna be Halloween. Yep. Okay New York minute New York minutes a great one Oh my god, so undercover wait. No. Sorry. No, 100 covers like I'm yeah, sorry, sorry But what's the one where they know that's a witness protection? The what's the witness protection one you The American actually are witness are in witness protection in Australia. Oh Not sundered down under it seems like undercover down under is that what it's like Our lips are sealed our lips are sealed. Wow. Have you ever met the Olsen twins? No, would you fan girl for sure? I mean Because I also watched like I also watched like Full house full house, so it's like full house was like big So even like getting like John Stamos is now one like my family's like my John Stamos is at my sister's wedding You know like he's like a family, you know, and so it's like it's wild like well, you know because we became really close on scream queens I forgot he was on scream queens. Yeah, when you were filming scream queens where you like yeah, this is Iconic or did you not like process until it came out? You know what I remember about scream queens while you're shooting it So this was like a weird moment in the show, which is like it's now become like kind of cult status like a lot of people have Kind of watched it since so the amount of people that come up to me about scream queens Now is like way more than when it was on right and so when it came out or like we made it You know, it's like Ryan Murphy. It's like Emma Roberts and Liam a show and like Ariana Grande and like it was like it was like Jamie Lee Curtis like a huge crazy cast So they were like expecting this thing to be like a big big show right and then it came out I remember our social numbers were the biggest they've ever been for any show like the day of and then the show came out and like no one watched it And I remember like the text were like congratulatory text the night Before and then it came out and the numbers came out and I was like wait how did no one watch the show and the whole world was talking about it and It was kind of like it was a very interesting vibe because like we kind of got picked up for a second season But it was like we kind of sputtered and just got there But like I was so proud of that show like the show is hysterical so good Yeah, it's such a great premise and it was like everybody on the show killed it But it's like it reminds you like you can't dance before you get in the end zone That's another Chad Powers thing wow how full circle was that yeah, yeah, that's a phrase I say all the time like people are like oh man congratulations I'm like don't dance before you get in the end zone one is the timing your life that you've danced to before you got in the end zone That's a great question Great question Will you kind of set it up for me? I mean what's yours? What a good question Okay, I'm trying to think so every day of my life. I do that. So I'm trying to think oh are you not I? Okay, so I'm trying to think of a time that I Louise. What's a time that I've danced before I got in the end zone? Oh my god, I I thought What there was this role that I was I'm trying to think and I was this this close to it and I was essentially telling people I got it and And then like I was like like celebrating not celebrating but like like I think I got Pinned for the role. Yes, and I never gotten pinned for a role before so I was like oh, I have it It's mine and so I was like oh this is amazing like I think I'm getting this role They asked from what dates I was available Yeah, and then they were like actually you did not get that role So that's the time that I danced before I got in the end zone But not like I'm trying to think of like a time that was like Really like and truly like a parent. I did this on divergent. Do you remember the movie divergent? You are you serious? I I Was pinder whatever I thought I was for who Peter the miles teller roll. Oh the Peter my god By the way, one of the greatest movie soundtracks of all time. Yeah, that was that was all time. That was um What's the what's the name run boy run? Is that the one? Oh, no, they did not would kid would kid what kid? I think that's the name of the the the artist that was like the I made I made three did it Oh, it made me three. Yeah, yeah, holy holy gold lane was on it. Yeah, like it had some bangers. Yeah, yeah That was a killer soundtrack. Yeah, but yeah, I was like I thought I fully thought I was Getting that one and I did I did the mistake which I never do now I don't talk about when I'm up for something. Okay, you don't I'm not like super stitious now, but I like I realize Until the deal is done Anything can happen until you're on set by the way. I've had friends that have been on set What they shoot they start shooting and they pull the plug. Do you ever hear the crazy story about back to the future now? So there's this guy Who was the original lead of back to the future? All right? His name is He's now a really big television director. I'll think of it a second He but he was the he was originally cast in in the lead and back to the future and Eric Stoltz Eric Stoltz so he and you literally can see footage of Eric Stoltz in back to the future like what exactly? exactly Like doing the exact same frames the exact same setups all that stuff and it's just a different guy and they fired him a half way through They were just like it's not working so he was like fully filming the movie So it's always in the back of my head like until you have the movie in the can like you can always be replaced Have you ever I experienced being caught on the cutting room floor? Yeah, I remember I did this movie called the the Wendell Baker story, right? So it was Lucos Luke Wilson Owen Wilson Will Ferrell even Mendez it was like a great cast Chris Christofferson. It was it was cool and so I played this paper boy in the movie and like I even I was like practicing like crazy to be like this stunt is basically I'm driving down the street I have this kind of like combative relationship with Luc Wilson in the movie and I basically throw a paper and like like just fuck with him and like throw papers right at him and So I practiced this like stunt around and he's supposed to hit me with his car right but me from behind So I had this crazy day with Luc Wilson this like this is like peak Luc Wilson post like You know post like what's the what's the fraternity movie? No, no, what's the fraternity? Why am I blanking right now my brain is totally shot after Benson. No, no, no the one the old school So so Luke Wilson did old school. It's like this the peak Luc Wilson and Will Ferrell's in it. So I had this amazing day shooting with all these guys where I'm like like mega fan of all these guys. I like Luke ended up hitting me with his car and I flew over I got scraped up and the boys are like You're the toughest guy ever and they added a new scene with like us all improving and it was like great and then I go to the premiere and I saw I I It's like opening the movie and I like my whole family's there and all of a sudden I watch it and I was like Well, it just came and went like no. Yeah, you're just like it's like a flash of me and then it's gone and I saw Luke afterwards and he was like Oh, just like dude. I'm I Should have called you I'm so sorry. I'm like dude. It's all good. It's all good. I had a great day You know like you know hanging with a gang, but again, you just never know like and also it's not personal like I I realized after that experience like It would have slowed the movie down. You're always trying to take time out of a movie You're trying to make it cook and sometimes you shoot these like improv things that just don't make it, you know You have roles that just get cut down, but it's heartbreaking because you like especially when you're on your way up like those little things like you're You're fighting for your you know you're fighting for seconds. Yeah, do you remember a time where you're like oh my god I've made it. I've done it. I've made it. I'm doing the thing and now you look back and you're like I can't believe that was the moment. I thought I made it because now it's so much more intense now That's a good quote. I think I think I was I was I talked with a friend about this the other day like the the Financial freedom in this job. You're not making much money. Even if you're in things, people forget that you're not actually making that much money. I just remember, I think it was after expendables. I got paid bare minimum, but I was there for several months, so I made enough as the most money I'd ever made. It's like 70,000 bucks or something like that. I just remember being like, I don't have to think about a cup of coffee, how much it costs. You know what I mean? It's like, "Oh, I can buy." Because when you're in LA for most of that existence, you're like nickel and diming everything. Everything matters. You look at a rotisserie chicken and you're like, "How long can I make this last?" You buy the rotisserie chicken. You're like, "Okay, if I break it up into however many meals, if I eat this late in the day, like how long?" It's like, when you go to a bar, I would never drink in a bar, I'd always flask it. Really? Yeah, I would've had a flask in my boot. Yeah, so I would, you know, it's like, I'm not trying to beat the system, but you're like drinks in LA are expensive. So expensive. You know? And like, I would never like, you know, Josh always gave me shit. Like sometimes I'd like, I'd go to dinner with people, but I would never eat. Oh, same. I'm not eating. I couldn't, I couldn't afford to split. Yeah. You know, it's like those sort of things. So like, once, once you like, I think it was like after expendables, not money doesn't last long, but it felt like I just, there was like, there was like a bit of weight that that was lifted off of like feeling like I didn't have to worry about everything, you know? Do you ever miss like the simplicity of a more Lax career back then? Are you enjoying the rush of everything today? I mean, there's, there's, there's, I mean, there's, I would say that like the intensity of the public thing is not intense all the time. Like you'll see it's like intense sometimes. Like sometimes you walk into environment, it's like, it's definitely, I don't get recognized everywhere. And it's like not like a thing that like takes away. I'm a guy that's going to live my life regardless. You know, you, we've been friends a long time. And it's like, I like adventure. I like going out. I like having fun with my, my people. I can't, I'm not going to change my life for this thing. I've just learned to do it a little differently. Got it. But it is like it's, it's different. It's different. It's harder to like meet new relationships and friends. Like, it's really, that part has been something I haven't figured out yet. Right. Yeah. Yeah. You'll get there. Okay. You got it. Oh, well, I mean, it's like, it's like also, you know, if you're going to be in a relationship, you want to do it right. I've realized like I'm right now in my life. I'm trying to do everything really deliberately. Like I'm not, I'm not a guy that like likes feeling good about doing anything carelessly. Like, so you're going to date like I will, I will, I'm not dating to fill up time because I don't have, I don't have a lot of free time ever to fill up. Right. So if I'm going to, if I'm going to date, I'm dating with like a purpose in mind and like a, you know, like to, to find the thing. And so that, that, that also is just in the back of your head when you don't have a lot of time to give someone or do it right. Sometimes I just like, don't take that first step, which is like maybe good and bad. It's like sometimes you're just like, man, I got this thing coming up and like I'm going to be in this city. Like is it even like a good idea to because you already know that you can't devote. Yeah. And I don't like to be like a glass half empty kind of thinker because like I really, I think that's such an important thing to continue like putting yourself out there and doing all those things. But it's like, it's, I also want to be considerate. Like you don't want to be like reckless with somebody else's feelings when you know what's on the other side. But also this is the right thing you'll figure it out. So yeah, do you have any breaks coming up? This fall, like I'm going to be in LA, like all this fall. Are we going to hang out? Yeah, dude, we're going to kick it. I mean, we're going on that road trip. Don't play with me. Do not play with me. I really want to go on a road trip. My family's big on road trips. My family is growing up. The two things my family loves more than anything. It's the reason I can sleep anywhere. Like you saw me like pass out on the plane. Yeah, you can't do that. So I go out anywhere. And it's because like by family, we would take road trips when we were when I was like a kid, like to like if we went to Europe, like we're not spending like money on hotels and things like that. You'd basically my family would pay for the first like two nights of the trip. And the last two nights of a hotel. So we knew we were starting and we knew we were ending up and everything in the middle was sort of game. So we just rented car. And you just like drive through you go, Hey, should we try to go to like Italy? You're like, we just want to go to like, you know, you don't want to go to Lichtenstein. You know, it's like whatever it is. And you you just go, all right, cool. Let's go do it. And but half the time that means you're sleeping in a car. I also used to take road trips from New York to LA with my dad and my brother. And we used to sleep in the car. And I used to sit in that car for like 12 hours a day. You just like, but I think it's a good thing for kids like they're not like they don't get soft because like you go my parents were like kind of big on adventure. They kind of were just like, Hey, I mean, we have this adage in my family. It's like no good story happened from things going right. And that is so awesome. You know, and you know what? I needed to hear that because I was well, I had you know, I never finished my story about my travel experience from Paris to Oh, yeah. I'll tell you about that later. It was horrible. I mean, but but travel also is like in a relationship with your family, whatever. It's like good to be like, it's good to not have everything dialed in where you have to like problem solve together. It always makes it like, it always makes it great stories. Like you don't ever like tell a story about a vacation and be like, you know, super relaxing and like people don't want to hear that. Like, yeah, we were caught in a hurricane and we couldn't get out and blah, blah, blah. That is such a good attitude to have. So it's like, that's what like my family, we have this one great story where there was this like really cool Italian town we wanted to see. It was called a Vernata and it's right on the coast and they said inaccessible by car. But as we were driving by in Italy, my dad saw a science as a Vernata this way. He's like, maybe I thought you went at Vernata. Yeah, let's go to Vernata. Yeah. So we started driving and all of a sudden it started leading to like the roads are getting smaller and smaller and smaller than we're on these really high cliffs. And I'm talking about the roads like little wider than this couch, like thousands of feet down and we're like the whole family and all of a sudden we get down. And like the whole time it's like, we're like, if my dad literally said while we're in the car, he's like, if a some other car comes, we're leaving the car and we're going to figure it out. Like we're not going to try to it was scared. Yeah. And you can see cars that had fallen off. No. Yeah. You can see like it was like, it was like people had tried and failed. Like it was a bad. So why did you guys stop the car? Well, you were like, where is Vernata going to be? Like you can't push it. We can't pushing. So all of a sudden we get to the bottom of this, we get to the bottom and all of a sudden it kind of dead ends in these trees. And all of a sudden it's kind of getting dark. It's like getting dusk. And the family's looking at each other like, oh man, we're going to have to like just sleep in our car and this random thing. So it gets dark. And then all of a sudden you can see through these woods. Like it looks like like fire like candlelight or something. And my dad's like, let's go check this out. So my dad and I walked through the woods with the family and it opened up into this street. It looked like we were like time traveling. It opened up and it's like cobblestone streets and it was all like candlelight. It was like so like magical. And it looked like it was completely abandoned. And then we walked and there was this tavern of all these people singing. And we were like, do you have a hotel here? They said we don't have any hotels here. And so it's like my family. It's my sisters, my mom and my dad were all like, where do we stay for the night? Do we have to go back to the car? And this random couple was hearing us in the in the bar. And they said they seem like a good family. And they let us stay at their house for the night. And we still keep in touch with them. They get a Christmas card from us every year. And it's like one of those things that like for me, I was like, that's like a great adventure. It's like sums up my family about like how we kind of travel. Like you go, if we would have like tried to just do the dance steps that everybody else goes, if we didn't kind of take the plunge, like sure it was dangerous, service crazy. But it's like a great family story where it's like, we made new, wonderful friends in this far corner of the world. And like took the plunge together. It's like a great, you know, that is a great story that sounds like maybe out of either two movies, one like a romcom or a horror movie. Was it Vernazza that you ended up in? Yeah, Vernazza. Oh, that was Vernazza. Yeah, it's like, it's like, it's called the Chiquitera Islands, which is like these islands and Vernazza is one of the Chiquitera Islands. Wow. Okay. Well, Glenn, what are you therapist about today? What am I therapist about? And honestly, after hearing you talk and hanging out with you all weekend, it feels like nothing. You know, I mean, I think, I think the thing that I'm like, I'm kind of like grumpy Glenn in the fact that like you and I are about to like kickstart this party. Once you and I get a little tequila in us, I feel like we're going to beat this hangover. We're going to hear of the dog this shit. And then, and then I get to bring you to a UT game. Like, I have nothing to be therapist about. We are really good drums together. Can I say like when we were vibing last night, like at the Benson Boone concert, like we were like, first of all, the only drunk people there. For sure. For like the only drunk people there. I turned to like someone on his team. I'm like, I'm so drunk. And he looks at me. He goes, it's 10, 15 p.m. I said, I'm sorry. It was really funny. It was, we got there. It made me laugh because we go, we got to kind of a box. And I said, did you guys have like tequila or something like that? And he goes, let me see what we can do. And I'm almost positive. They had to postmates. They did. I know that they did because I'm thinking, I'm like, oh, the alcohol has been taking a while. Like, I wonder where it is. All of a sudden, we're drinking. I'm like, okay, the alcohol alcohol is here. Great. And then I turn to my left and I see a brown paper bag. I say, oh, my God, they post me to this alcohol. I was very grateful. But I was also like, oh, like we're, you know, we were the, we were the delinquents in that place for sure. We were. And we were so drunk, but you held it together so well on stage. - Thank you. - So well. - Thank you. - I'm so excited for UT later. Like, I'm like tweaking out about it. - So I'll get to teach you the chance. We're gonna have you drink out of a boot and a hat. I'm gonna, I even wanna see if I can get you to shoot off the cannon. - What? - There's a cannon that when Texas scores, we shoot. - Please, I'll do anything. - So I'm going to, I'm gonna introduce you to Bivo. I'm gonna see if I can get you to shoot this cannon. - Okay. - And I'm gonna see if there's any sort of other rights of passage that you need to have, but I don't think you're really truly ready for a Texas game today. There's nothing like here. - Oh, I'm really excited. Louise is like from the South and she's said, like, I'm not ready. - No, it's like great. I went to, I went to a game in Tuscaloosa when Texas played, you remember that game? - Yeah. Am I a good house guest? - You're the best house guest. - Really? - I told you, man, I was like, I was impressed with, you woke up just so peacefully in those pajamas. You have a great pajamas set. - Do you know there's Texas flags on those pajamas? - I did not see that. - Yeah. - Oh, actually, can I give you a little gift? - What? - We got you. - No, you didn't. - Here we go, buddy. This is just, you know, not that I don't love your pajamas, but I thought, you know, this could be like a nice little-- - Oh, I'm gonna wear this to bed tonight. Oh, my God, you know, if I wasn't Glenn, thank you. - And we could wear this on six straight tonight. - Can I? - Yeah, totally. - Can we actually go to six straight? - Yes, please. - I think you on six straight would be trouble, but I think we'll find it. - And I love you. - I love you, buddy. - Thank you. This is so thoughtful. Before we wrap up, you know what we have to do. - What? - Tell me what's wrongs. - Oh, yes. - My new girlfriend's dad offered me a cigar. I accepted even though I've never smoked one. I assumed it was like anything else you smoke and I inhaled it. I was coughing relentlessly and crying my eyes out on the floor. Him and his friends were literally pointing at Lafayne. How do I come back from this? - No, I think that's a good thing. - As you say, no good story comes from a good situation. They now know you did something to win their approval that you didn't wanna do. I think that's like, there's a little bit of hazing whenever like a boyfriend or girlfriend comes into the family and meets everybody. There's a little bit of like hazing that goes on. I think like the cigar smoking means they like you. It means they like, you're not boring. They wanna like put you through this shit and see how you handle it. How do you initiate your sisters now husbands into the power family? - How did you? - We, my dad, for instance, I'll tell you like, when my dad met my mom's family for the first time, they pulled a prank where they acted like, they were like a real redneck sort of family. So it's a very well-educated like smoke family. But they were acting like they were wearing like the craziest clothes, like, you know, put like black stuff on their teeth, like, they true, they rented cars that were like the seats were missing. They loaded the car up with like pit bulls. And basically my, my dad, like when my dad landed, my uncle Billy and Stephen picked him up. And they were like, hey, sorry, Cindy can't be here, but like, you know, getting the car and they're like dogs, like my dad's wearing a full suit to like impress the family. And there's like dogs drooling all over him. They give him a beer. They're like, here drink this. And they had hired a buddy of theirs who worked for the government in like a blacked out like Lincoln town car with a siren to pull them over. And they said, hey, hey. - This is the most insane commitment for the band I've ever heard in my entire life. - My family, my family's big on pranks. Very big on pranks. So the town car pulls them over. And he goes, shit, it's the feds. And my uncle gets out and pretends to have a knife fight. - What? - And murder this guy on the side of the road. And then the guy pretends to kill my uncle and pulls him through the wind, the window and says, welcome to Texas boy. And that was literally my dad's, well, that was like him meeting the family. Like it was a, he thought he witnessed a murder. Like that's like, that's the level of like, I always tell people like when people like, did I meet your family? I'm like, like, especially like my aunt, honey. Like that I'm like, aunt, honey, who's rowdy? I'm like, if you don't know if you've met them, you haven't met them because they're like so rowdy. - That is the most insane prank I've ever heard. What's your dad's scared? - Yeah, absolutely. He thought he was going to jail. He's like, oh my god, like I just watched a man get murdered and like, so, but like, it's like those sort of things where like the whole family, I believe that everybody, a true, like for me, if I'm like, if I give people shit, like it means I love you, right? It means like, it means I'm so comfortable with you that we can like, you know, mess with each other and take the piss out of each other and not like, it's like, it's just a level of confidence in a relationship in my opinion. So I think this cigar thing, I think is a good thing. - And you just came to a full circle with that, in a way that I've never experienced. What is the best prank you've ever played on someone? Because I can tell you mine. The one that I get quoted about forever, because I released 3,000 crickets in the school on the last day of school. And so it like, you released 3,000 crickets. - On the last day of eighth grade. - How did you manage that? - Well, you put them in your backpack? - Yeah, yeah. I put them, I didn't, I basically, how I did it was, I went to the pet store and you get, you just buy crickets at the pet store. So I bought 3,000 crickets and then I hid them in the woods outside the school. And so then I got like guys to kind of like go during bathroom breaks and stuff like that to get the crickets, hide them in the ceiling. Then like the next guy would take them out of the ceiling instead of, we had like a whole like operation. So right before the lunch bell would ring where people like flooded this one hallway, it was like a big like bottleneck area. I was like, this is where we got to release the crickets. I like released all these crickets. So everybody came out of the thing like heading to lunch and there were crickets just like everywhere. So I get quoted for that one a lot. That was a good, that was a good like high school prank. 'Cause I got in a lot of trouble for it. - What? - They figured out I did it, yeah. - I mean, how would they not? - I know, yeah. - Where you like I did it? - None of my friends ratted me out. - Oh, good friends. - But, but, but it got back. - So the cigar story, it's just a story. - I think the cigar story, I truly believed that like, a cigar, I think it's a good thing. It means they like you. - I mean, I've mortified myself in so many ways and not in front of like my significant other. I don't have a significant other obviously. It's family, but my friend's family's all the time. None of my friends, like any of the things I like. Some music shows, movies, restaurants, nothing. So in order to indulge in any of my passions, I have to be alone or force someone to go with me awkwardly. Why are your friends with them? What is the remedy to this, please? - What do you think about this one? - I mean, I don't know why your friends with people who shared zero interest. - I don't even seem like a friend. - That feels like friends by force. Like you're just like you grew up with them and like they're your friends. - That's a confusing one. - Yeah, I feel like the first step of friendship is that you like, you're bond over something. - That's the first thing we bond it over. - First thing we bond it over? Pilates. - Right. - I mean, the one thing that I love, see this is like in a good example where it's like, your shakes on the Pilate machine. Like that was where I was like, oh this guy's like a, like, and your commentary on it was so funny. I was like, wait, what is happening right now? - Yeah. - And it just like immediately endeared you, like I endeared me to you. I was just like, oh my god, I love this guy. 'Cause you're just hilarious about it. And I think that's it. It's like, again, like people not being cool, like people not being like so protective, like being self-aware that we all do weird shit. - Right, 100%. Hi, I'm Emily, hi, Emily. And I never know how to read a room. People can be really upset with me and I won't pick up on it and continue making jokes. Vice versa too. How do I practice self-awareness going forward so as not to alienate myself from social groups? - You're really good at reading a room. Was that something you learned or just born with that? - That's a really good question. What is your opinion about that? - To be honest, I don't think you can learn how to read a room. I think like, I think, sorry, I take that back. I think if you continue putting yourself in situ, if you have somebody with you that will call you out when you're not reading the room properly, to take in what you've done in that moment to not read the room properly and take it with you to the next time and each time it'll get better and better and better and better. It's like pouring water into a cup with sand. Like eventually the sand comes out. - Do you have the thing that when you go to an event or have a conversation with somebody, when you get home and you go back by yourself, that you have sort of the Sunday scaries or whatever the Monday morning quarterbacking like everything that happened? - My entire life is like a Sunday scarier. - I always feel like I do this all the time. We're all like, it's very nice to say I can read a room but I'll like, I'll literally go to something and I'll like, have all these conversations and then I'll get home and I'll be like, why did you do that? Like why did you say it? I'll literally just like hate on myself and that's one thing I'm trying to get better about which is just being like, okay, like, people know you're good intentions, like we all make mistakes, you know, sort of thing but it's like, it's hard like sometimes you slip up and say like the exact thing that you're not supposed to say to the person that you're like, why did I do that? What is like, without naming names, the worst time you've put your foot in your mouth? - I'm not gonna say it. (laughing) - I have one in the back of my head that my buddies like, give me shit about all the time. - Will you tell me after? - I'll tell you afterwards. - Okay, amazing. My best friend initially got engaged last year. She had told me that she was going to ask me to be a bridesmaid in her wedding. A month ago, I found out from another friend that she had asked all of her bridesmaids already and I was not included. That's really hurt my feelings but I haven't been able to tell her. I feel like I'm resenting her because of it and I don't like it, I just can't get over it. I would say on like the good side of things being a bride's made is such hard work I totally agree You have bachelor bachelor trip all these different things like it's so expensive like just try to look on the bright side of it and also like Maybe reevaluate your relationships if you thought you were close enough to be a bride's made and you obviously wear it totally and also like Weddings are a lot of obligatory Invites like nobody thinks about it's like my little sister just through her wedding and like Like she has to kind of do the thing where it's like there's the people you have to invite that are like your family or this or whatever It is or people that grew up or have been really helpful with the family or whatever it is and then there's those people that you're really close to and like You can't please everybody you know what I mean and I think like the the thing that I'm like realizing especially on the That sort of aspect like my I come from a family like we call my mom FOMO sometimes like she's just Epitomizes FOMO she wants to be a part of everything but we realize is that like I think the worst thing that social media has done for people is Show them what they weren't attending like what they want a part of and if you're the kind of person that like Feeds into that and it's like that kills them. It's a really it's a really horrible place like I'm always like a I'm always like I do this thing in my career like I got a good advice early on where I said they said don't look in the other lanes You're running your own race, right? Which is like if somebody else is doing good. I'm like that's good That's good for the business. It's good when people are working. It's good when people are thriving like you root for everybody to win And like I kind of feel the same way like on a social aspect I'm like when I watch people like living their best life like that shouldn't eat at you like you should be like Hey, I should go live my best life too like it's you should root for people to be happy and have fun but like the the bridesmaid thing in particular Is like I always think that like in the back your head. You should always remember like there's other politics going on other simplicity of do I like you right? Yeah, what do you think? You're so wise you ever feel like I'm so wise You don't feel that way. What is like the biggest lesson you've learned in the past year probably if you're if you are genuinely well-meaning You can never no matter what happens if you try to do your best then Like do it doing your best like try to treat people well trying to show up for your job like Like trying to I it's like a hard thing to explain, but like I feel like right now. I feel like I Can get caught in a bit of a a storm of a lot of things I can't control and It can be hard for someone who Like is trying to show up and do their best to be like wait Why is this happening? Why is this happening and I think the real the thing that I go if you can look at yourself in the mirror and go like I did my best. I tried my hardest whatever it is like then That's a thing that like kind of releases all the chaos of the world, which is We're all gonna make mistakes. We're all gonna do whatever But like if you can look yourself in the mirror and go I tried my best I tried to show up and I tried to treat people well, whatever it's like giving yourself a little bit of grace because I'm I really do I'm a sensitive person and I can be really hard on myself And I like everybody like my mom was like I never had to punish you because you punished yourself Like I was always like a kid that like if I if I made a mistake or did something wrong I was I hated myself right I couldn't get over it And I still do that I still do that to a great degree if I if I feel like I fumbled if I hurt somebody or I feel like I fumbled Like I really I get I go dark fast and I'm I'm trying to In this in this phase of life you realize like you're never trying to disappoint people but so many people Sort of ask for your your time and and attention and there's only so many hours in the day And you really want to show up for everybody, but like I think in the past I would really hate myself for not being able to make everybody happy and I'm trying to get better about like giving Myself grace being like hey, you did your best like you can't you can't do it for everybody, you know Glad that's beautiful You have such a good outlook on life Oh, this one is interesting because we were talking about this last night and it kind of relates to Chad powers My best friend is turning into a conspiracy theorist lately and it's so fucking tiring like to a point where even if it's something That's believable or something. I don't even care because I want my old buddy and I's calm I want my old buddy and I's conversations back Is there anything I can do and you said something so fascinating about conspiracy theorist yesterday? Can you share? Well, basically what I was saying is like so writing Chad powers the the character of rust holiday this horrible thing happened to him that You know, he made this mistake in front of the whole world and it's sort of life burned down and What happened was he became like a conspiracy theorist right where he believed in sort of all of these things of like There has to be a like dark You know figures behind any bad thing that that happens or or a meaning that's not just like hey sometimes bad things happen You know And so what I find that a lot of conspiracy theorists like my point of view about a lot of conspiracy theories is that it's just like people not taking accountability, right? They it's hard to describe This world is a complicated place and like scary things happen at bad things happen and they're hard to fathom and The why of it like evil does exist and so instead of trying to go Hey, you know like You know instead of trying to go like hey like bad things happen. You sort of like double down on this Idea that there's there's a mechanism behind the world that's out to get you and I think that's like a Thing that like isn't the back of my head is like look sure there are there some of some of these conspiracy theories like Absolutely, they're very possible and there's a lot of things that you know, I always think we should always be questioning The truth of things not just be feeding what the media gives you I think that's really important I think it's always important to question things But I do find that like that was a that was a basic part of Chad powers is that all Him just saying like hey, I made a mistake and my life fell apart instead of doing that He blames on everyone else and like I think accountability is like Conspiracy theorist for me or a lot of people that just aren't taking accountability for the fact that the world is hard to explain sometimes Right, and it's like you what you said was like they believe that the world is working against them. Yes instead of just Existing. Yes, right. I thought that was so smart. Oh, thank you. And I think you should show that to your friend who's obsessed with conspiracy theorists Clan, what did we learn today? It's always it's always a journey with you man We covered a lot can I say yes, I think this watches our other podcast out of the water I like to totally agree and can I tell you something or I told a lot of bizarre shit and I know all of it is factual Cheers, okay, so after this I'm gonna go put on my cowboy outfit Let's go and we're gonna start drinking yep, and have the best day of my life. I can't wait. Thank you for having me Dude, I'm so happy you're here, man the cowboy hat. I think this has to be kind of like your new look I honestly think it might be Austin, Texas has been very good to me so far. It's a good look on and I think if I play the part it'll be even better I agree Okay, do you want to give a little buy pussies hook them buy pussies Welcome